LaVar Ball FULL EPISODE | EPISODE 10 | CLUB SHAY SHAY

i'm shannon sharp welcome to another. edition of club shay shea i am your host. and proprietor of club shayshay the. young man well he's not really young but. the man that's coming by today to have a. drink in conversation guys you know he. doesn't need any introduction but he's. the only man that can say i had two sons. drafted in the top three picks of the. nba draft he's the ceo of big baller. brand he's a businessman he's a former. nfl player and he's one of the most. polarizing figures in all of america. lavar ball.

all my life been grinding all my life. sacrifice hustle paid the price. wanna slice got the roll of dice that's. why all my life i've been grinding all. my life. all my life been running all my life. sacrifice plus will pay the price. wanna slice got to roll the dice that's. why all my life i've been grinding all. my life. levar how you doing. exciting what's going down with you man. you know how i'm doing good good and.

great. okay relax give me a playback the last. two days what what. what's your emotion what are you feeling. the last two days. the last two days feel like the other. 365 days a year great. they're great i already knew all this. was going to happen so it wasn't like oh. man mello finna be trapped today me and. my wife had a goal all my boys get into. the nba i told him from day one born to. go pro. let's go off let's take it all let's go.

back let's go back to. you meet your wife and i remember you. telling the story says look i don't know. what i'm gonna do but whatever it is i. want to do it with you. right so you get you and tina you guys. get together so this was your plan all. along this definitely was my plan all. along man like i said before man most of. the fine sexy girl they short. they short man ain't gonna lie but when. you find a big tall giant one one to. stay with i said i know what i'm trying.

to do i need that length and strength. and she was also beautiful and. intelligent so everything fell in line. you come from a family of brothers yes. and. what i'm gathering from you and your. brothers you guys were close you. instilled that closeness in your boys. most definitely man uh you know my mom. and dad always was like family first so. that that leads on to me to say family. first and that leads on to me telling my. boys family is everything. triple b's baby.

i was reading a story i don't know and. you could wreck me if i'm wrong is that. you played high school ball with what. three or four of your brothers. uh no no no no the gap was too far to. play with all of us i played uh one. college season with uh with my my one of. my brothers that's under me okay he's a. couple of years younger than me so so. what's the age gap because so age gap. was like this when um he was a 10th. grader i was a senior okay that's how it. is and then my other brothers uh that.

are younger than me are. lorenzo who is seven years younger than. me everybody thinks he's my twin okay. but but you got you had this planned out. because your three boys are very close. today very close and aged on the fact. that i've learned from my dad you didn't. have us super close together and. everybody playing on the same team. here's the thing what my dad did which. was a little different which he always. thought you should be the owner of the. team i said okay but what if i want to. do the plan i want to own no team.

we didn't start playing sports until we. was in the 10th grade and then told me. hey start my boys extra early. because he had already set the blueprint. we were stronger and faster than a lot. of people right everybody damn there but. he never knew what to do with this like. i'm doing it with my sons right now you. and i we're very close in age um we got. a lot of the same principles although. i'm. born and raised we're raised in south. georgia you're born raised in south. central l.a right but my grandfather the.

way he looked at it i need labor so i. need to get i need to go ahead and have. a bunch of these kids they need to be. closing age and if he could have had all. boys he'd had all boys but there was not. gonna be no gap. right exactly. exactly. and that's why i didn't put no gap. between my boys because i wanted them. all to play together in high school i. tried to have. uh lonzo and jello in the same year. tina got close 13 months off right then. she needed a little break because i know. she ain't popping him out like that so i. gave her a little break and then i said.

melo you got to come on now to me yeah. here you come. so when you let you land at home. the last two nights. what's the conversation between you and. your wife. the conversation between me and my wife. and last couple of days was like tina. when you're gonna come back from that. stroke and make that pineapple pie for. me cause i've been waiting four years. for it. that's a little conversation it's time. for you it's time for your boy to hire. you a chef tina should be done with the. cooking she gotta go. bro hey i'm gonna tell you what that.

tina can cook i know her having a stroke. she ain't cooked in the last three years. so you i'm like a hungry man on the. desert island. so you've been doing you've been you've. been i've been doing the shepherd now. i'm still good now if i couldn't cook i. wouldn't say my size man i don't want my. woman to ever get mad be like i ain't. cooking nothing for you then i shrivel. up and then they go crazy nah so i'm. good in the conversation that you had. with with melo over the last let's just. say the last going through this process. obviously you know he's meeting with. teams he's talking to teams he's going.

to work i think he worked out for what. three teams the top three teams top four. teams he worked out for so what was your. conversations with mello. my conversation with mello what wasn't. much just like man you're gonna do what. you're gonna do whoever gonna pick. you're gonna be the right team to pick. you right now the way the way that the. draft one i happen to be the luckiest. guy in the world man i keep telling you. that i did not want to go stay in no. minnesota i didn't want him in the cold. he don't want to live in the coat he. could say what he want i'll go to any. team he don't want to live in minnesota. and then like i said with golden state i.

figured they already got their team with. clay and steph and then you know and at. some point i think steve kerr might have. been like you know what that dude did. call me the milly vanilla coaching and. if things ain't going right i'm gonna. come back through his son through him. and i didn't want melo trying to make a. decision on do i listen to my employer. or do i listen to my dad no matter how. good he is it's still up in your head so. it panned out right greatness recognized. greatness and that boy went to michael. jordan which i've always been saying. somebody got to be better than jordan.

why not you and to be tutored under him. come on man this is about to be. something special well i'm glad he went. to charlotte too because what i'm. waiting for and what everybody waiting. for is this versus battle levar ball one. on one versus jordan this is what i've. been waiting for. well if you're waiting for it hear them. get in touch with pay-per-view because. me and mike ain't playing for less than. 200 million. what. that's what we say if you don't watch. mike tyson fighting 50 you don't watch. me and mj play just one-on-one for. pay-per-view only and it better be over.

200 million so let me ask you a question. what if jordan sent word through mello. tell your dad when you show up in. charlotte have his gym clothes. hey don't send no word through mellow. talk for your own self come. look. what about new york what if he had gone. to what if he'd go into the knicks. madison square garden. hey here it is no matter where mellow.

went i was talking about uh new york and. detroit i was talking about those two. teams because they was gonna try to find. a way to get all my boys right that's. why i wanted them to go right there and. like i'm gonna tell mike. hey with mello you're gonna be good. you bring in jello you're gonna be. better you bring in lonzo you're gonna. have the best i guarantee you win a. championship because that's the original. big three they've grown organically them. those can switch and play at a pace that. nobody can the last time my three was.

together they was babies and they went. undefeated so imagine what they can do. as grown men so you still you still. haven't given up on that dream. that's not even going to be a dream on. the fact that it should happen sooner or. later can you imagine you talking about. press all three of my boys in charlotte. but you know how many people don't watch. every game that'll be the biggest thing. ever. guaranteed but here's the thing so you. won't even say that i'm i'm dreaming. about this okay after four years go by.

they can they can decide to play with. any team they want right and here's the. thing like this you see and i'm gonna. tell you the platform you got mellow. a free agent next year you don't think. he'll come over there with his brothers. come on. boys in charlotte. next under the goat sitting next to big. boy and you never know what's going to. go down at halftime because me and mike. mike decide to play that one-on-one game. at halftime. first of all you and mike they got too. old y'all need to let the young kids.

have it. no we let the young kids have this right. now. but if the people in the world want to. see that one-on-one they're gonna have. to pay a price from the greatest of all. time. to the coldest of all times. baby. so you caught a lot of criticism. it's now now correct me if i'm wrong you. and the old coach at chino hills had a. falling out about how. mellow was going to be used. no no no we didn't have a fallout about.

how mellow was going to be used okay. this is the narrative they wanted to. create and it was like man oh lavar said. that if mello ain't allowed to shoot 50. times he taken his son no i had these. other kids that i've been training that. were very good right that he needed to. put on the team not even just to play. but just to have them practice and have. the same schedule with melo and. everything was gonna be fine right yeah. man he cut every one of them dudes that. i am trained and then end up putting. them back the next year anyway but i'm.

like. they were all better than the people. that he had on that so you think he did. you think he did that because you asked. him to do that and so that was out of. spite of you. right that basically that's what it was. and i said you know what you're going to. lose everything now because my son ain't. got to be here. so you take him you take him out of. school yeah and. but hold on so this was not a plan you. did not originally plan to go to. lithuania your plan was to have a mellow. place. hey my plan was to go to lithuania but. here's the thing what happens and i.

always tell people this man sometimes. you have to take a step backwards to. shoot forward and what i tell jello. about what i mean by that is okay joe. did something bad he took he took the. glasses okay i get that but if jello. don't take their glasses i don't create. my own league i don't take them over to. lithuania to get water and other to make. them global. that doesn't happen here's a story that. was gonna happen lonzo was gonna go to. ucla jello was gonna do his thing and be. in the top ten too as a shooting guard.

go to ucla mello was gonna follow that. pattern hey lavar make his money don't. worry about everything else that's going. on. this is bigger than just me and my boys. now and i think it was created by the. negativity that jello did to allow the. family to explode into this global era i. don't go across the usa i don't make the. jba it's a lot of things mello don't. develop the way he does right. and that's what and that's where i. created you now i don't know if. everything that that's that's come to. fruition is the way you planned it but i. don't know if anybody has made a better.

use of a situation or a negative. situation and turn it into a positive as. you have right most definitely like i. said a lot of these kids that uh your. ricky rubio's your friends i mean uh. parkers and all them you get these kids. overseas okay they're overseas and. they're playing against pros now i'm. taking americans over there being mellow. and jello go over there young age and. and play now it's like oh his dad just. wants the content for the guy but no i. don't want my boy to study for no.

chemistry testing those spanish chests. and ain't gonna use that and do the same. thing these young kids was doing coming. over here to the us right see just what. could never happen nobody has the money. in the platform to do that because they. coming from the ghetto with all that. talent so i can't go overseas and do the. same thing i did right so you go so you. pull. how did you come about going to. lithuania once you pull what okay what. was your plan. when i was talking to you know my guys. about going over there i don't want to.

go we had a few other teams that was. involved i don't want my boys. to go to a team that's that's balling. out of control why because you really. don't need my boys you're just winning. without them. right so we go to a raggedy team. and that's what you do usually to get to. the playing time and the press that you. want anybody can go to a real good team. and do a little bit. but can you go to a bad team and uplift. them or do some things because hey just. like in the draft you get the best. players at the top going to the weakest. teams right so it's a given.

and it's just like we did the same thing. so lithuanian nobody even talked about. uh croatia barcelona spain oh they're. not talking about them in lithuania. wouldn't have been known if my boys. don't go over there they ain't been. known since. so you go to lithuania you make the best. of that situation so what was your plan. after lithuania. after lithuania it was for jello to get. you know drafted to the to the league. from there i don't know what happened is. that didn't happen so guess what mello. said dad i want to finish my uh.

you know in high school because they. didn't want to be out there no more in. europe if jello wasn't gonna be out. there right so now that's when i say you. know what i'm gonna do my little jba. tour we go to 15 different countries to. keep balling to clear their time so we. won't just be sitting down not doing. nothing right now i have to create my. own league if i don't want to go back. have my son go to college or have an aau. team or something for mello to to have. exposure to be seen right so i got to. create my own league and we move on our. own merits. so that's why people was like why are. they not playing against no talent well. he's playing against some of the best.

talent because we had the best thing. going which is i had the ball boys which. is the name and i had the big mouth to. say we can't lose y'all because y'all. not good enough to beat us right so now. all the teams that want to play they. just want to play us on the fact that. say they want to be the team that got. usa across their chest they don't care. who it is. guess what they're coming in that's. extra hard and that's why boys got all. their talent and folks like to discredit. that by saying oh no they played for the. dash league but they played the whole. game and never got subbed so ain't. nothing better than experience.

so. mellow says dad i want to go i want to. go back to high school. high school so now you got to find a. high school how do you land on this high. school in ohio spire man everything. panned out where a lot of people wanted. uh different transcripts and they had. different motives and i found out uh. well i didn't find out one of my guys. that works for me he said man i got the. perfect spot i said well we've been in. lithuania it don't matter where it is in. the states we good because other big. name teams wanted us okay but this one.

panned out because i said wow i need. mello to play with somebody with some. fire or coach i just didn't want to take. mello and be a yes man right and also uh. just be a cloud chaser on effect all. right i'm coaching the miller ball now. you know from over here and and jermaine. jackson was that dude i mean like i said. before i told you i'm the luckiest dude. in the world and for him to link up like. that. and and teach mello. this is what he said mello has a this is. the first time i met this guy he said. mello has the first time.

to be the number one pick i said this. dude think just like me man i can't lose. how i get this guy and coming from the. hood of detroit he coaches with a. different emotion right which is what's. needed for my son to be successful and. it's hard for let me tell you like lonzo. uh. luke steve alford coach bake they they. all look too docile um. so that's what they respond to so you. got to play for a brother that had that.

same type of intensity to put you on. another level like i say mellow a couple. of times playing aspire spire and. jermaine was like kill him he can't. guard you we're going to show him you. know you don't say that there's no head. coach right you know but that type of. flavor that's why mello linked up to him. and kind of they're best friends to this. day now yeah created a bond with him not. only as a manager as a trainer but as. his best friend and his best friend is. 40 something years old with his family. so guess what people oh mello's really.

mature not yeah because he ain't in. school and he's talking to a dude who. understands life and who came from. nothing. and that's what happened my grandfather. said boy association brings on. assimilation. melo is is 18 years old he's dealing. with a 40 year old a grown man with a. family he's going to take on those. values he's going to think like that oh. my god and that's why people are sewing. and all like wow he wasn't like that. when he was 16 on the facebook show but. now look at him i mean dude if you're. talking to a 40 year old man every night.

he's not telling you hey what cartoon. are we going to watch or when's the next. movie coming out or how many girls can. we go talk to down the street you know. anything you're going to be away from. all that that's why nello is so dialed. in on this basketball thing hey i never. watched film and never did the fine. tuning that jj is doing for mellow and. that's why i said nobody going to come. in the draft like mello one thing is. none of these kids have ever played. against grown men mello is the only one. who has and who's been global.

you go to spire okay what's your plan. after spire. after spire mello was either either. gonna go to china or australia one of. those two teams mello did he would have. got more money in china. but it's not about that it's about we. already been out to china and hong kong. and shanghai and all that. he had enough for traveling overseas and. not speaking english right. he had enough for the weather so. australia perfect weather they got a. little accent but they speak english. right and everything was perfect for him.

out there. so. but you didn't go with it. and here's the thing that's what people. are stuck on i don't have to go with him. if i got another guy working for me that. thinks like me right which is jj is the. exact person for my son. i call him my little bro because he act. like my little brother man jj is in the. same way middle record is in the game he. didn't see that we put in our work. basketball is a lifestyle okay i got the. big bowl of brand i got to deal with i.

got jello i got to deal with because. that's you know these two are the only. ones not in the nba yet right i got to. deal with them i got to deal with the. brand and i also got to deal with my. wife. tina don't want to travel like that. right so if i don't have to take her and. then we finally got to spend some time. at the house and. her getting better and me doing things. with the brand and the coverage all that. stuff it's cool if i can have somebody. help me out and jj helped me out a lot. this is what this man did man you have. to understand this who ups and goes from. a family. to go deal with my son unless you treat.

my son like your son. right you can't get that and i. understand it and that's how lucky i am. man so everybody the voice is not. involved now i talk to jay every day. like he's my little brother he's the. only dude i call a little bro. and people will be like man because. everybody knows the boy don't let his. boys train with nobody he only do the. training himself you know i don't like. nobody train them so for they asking jay. how did you get in like this. and the only way you got to stay with. mello for a year. stay with him for a year inspire and.

then get his trust in the way he feels. about you and i trust you so guess what. and you have the knowledge of the game. right. so this is the best situation for mello. so basically so once once uh australia. was over you knew he was going into the. draft. well once australia here's the nba got. able to see this. everybody was shocked oh my god he's got. two triple doubles in the road only want. to do this selling on every arena that's. what nba you want to do. you want a talented guy but you also at.

the bottom line you got to make some. money you got to sell them tickets right. my son is the only one who. i tell you what check everybody who got. drafted. and then check the attendance record of. every arena and i bet you my son be the. only one that's sold out guaranteed. first game watch how crazy it is because. it ain't like mellow. is all of a sudden going to make. everybody come no that's what he does. hey listen to this at chino hills lonzo.

was there as yet he was good when jello. got there we got better when mello got. there we were the best. sell out the boy lithuanian sell out jba. he do his thing make everybody watch jba. he do his thing aspire sell out he do. australia the biggest crowds ever. it's not like he don't now he's gonna go. to charlotte and buy under the goat. and you don't think it'll be a sellout. that's what i'm saying it's natural for. him that's what he does. so. once you okay now the the the goal is is.

to get jello. into the nba yes okay. when you get yellow to the nba then what. does levar do do. and like i said lebron gonna keep doing. what he's doing like i told folks before. my boy's gonna make so much money off. the court this is a billion dollar. enterprise people ask me they say lavar. where you see yourself in in 10 years i. said as the biggest brand ever and. everybody gives a little chuckle like. man okay hey every brand got to start. somewhere i'll be venturing off into a.

lot of other things like i said got. these water coming out these rims oh i. got to bring you some my water don't. worry about it i i haven't shipped up. there to fox where yet but it's better. than that other one mine's hawaiian. springs now next to a volcano you know. how hot that is to get that water from. over there you gotta be cold as hell to. get that water. and i'm gonna tell you it's very. soothing but anyways with the big. brother brand and the rims and tires. that's gonna come out man and it's just. gonna be i'm gonna get in that. grassroots area which is which is. another night another lane i'm gonna.

stay in my boys from chino hills i'm. from la south central but i got some of. my guys on my team that was back in the. hood that's gonna bring me back to the. inner city and i'm gonna do some things. for them out there so it's a lot of. things lined up. are you looking to to get back into it. and look to find the next mellow lonzo. jello and try to bring them and usher. them into the end definitely definitely. because i want i want these athletes to. understand their self-worth and make. them understand at the end of the day. it's about ownership. and it's not like i'm not going to go.

after some of these next number one and. number two picks because here's our the. deal i'm gonna give them i'm gonna give. you 40 ownership as opposed to an. endorsement deal i'm not gonna give you. five years two million dollars a year to. wear this shoe or where it is on the. fact that. hey you're a popular player and this is. standard no matter how good or bad you. do i'm giving you two million if you. betting on yourself come the big bowler. brand because if we can sell a million. shoes at a hundred dollars a pop now i'm. giving you 40 million and i'm taking 60. 40 60 but you got 40 million ownership.

and whether you play one year or 10. years when you leave take your brand. with you you ain't gonna get stuck like. kawhi and can't take your own hand back. you said and you used to tell us this. all the time especially off the air you. like the baby. is gonna be the best of all of them he's. gonna be bigger he's going to be. stronger he's going to be faster he will. be why were you so convinced that mello. would be the best of all your boys well. it's just like uh they like phones like.

i told you you keep making one phone. better than the next one you don't make. the one this one will be good but you. learn the stuff from this one to put on. this one right now. mellow this is what i say i mean lonzo i. need him the oldest to lead the team. that's why he rebounds so good because. he played as my big man and my best. guard. but i cannot have him playing defense on. the best player he's gonna get tired so. what i put melo and jello to double team. the best player on every team. that's why i had them at the top of the. press to let them do all the pressing.

and chasing people okay now laszlo is a. facilitator he can do his thing he can. score alonzo but jello is the heck of a. shooter. now mello learns from both of them. so mellow is the only one in my family. that can play the one order two jello. can't play the one because as soon as he. passed half court he think he opened and. he led a shoot so he ain't gonna get. nobody involved lonzo can't really play. the two on the fact that you're passing. the ball in the corner where he's. supposed to take a three he's looking.

for the cutter and that's too long. rainfalls look for no cutter mellow can. flip from playing the one out of. necessity passing the ball to flip it. over the two to try to score 100 points. on his own that's when we played lonzo. caught a lot of lives from mello when he. was little but then mello said okay. lonzo out the way. and they want me to play point he plays. point out of necessity he loves to score. but a lot of people don't see him on. that mello can score the heck out of. that ball but he the only one who can. flip his mind set to play the one or to. where my other two sons are just stuck.

in their lanes. so what area do you think uh mello needs. to prove improve on. tell everybody before man hey hey hey. even your guy the greatest right now. lebron what do you work on he works on. something every day yeah and here's. here's the thing with the boys and never. it's a lifestyle and you ain't never got. no rest and guess what i don't care how. good you are. you got something to work on which is. everything. so don't be like well i just need to. work on my shooting i just need to do a. little bit more there's no that's when. you get complacent you've got so much to.

work on it's like you i don't say like. you never made it but if you're trying. to be the best in the world ever how are. you going to stop. nba evaluators compared. mello's game to spencer dinwiddie yes. agree disagree. well check it out all your evaluators. they can't play a lick. so that's why i don't totally evaluation. is anything. and you want to evaluate me it's just. like this if i'm not a big guy who eats.

all of all the time how can i tell you. how good some food is i ain't tried. enough of it right try to critique and. tell me what my boy you want to convince. him to spencer didn't witty man they. they had uh lonzo he was compared to. every guard that's light-skinned. so i'm just saying don't don't try to. put them in these categories and all. this if anybody you play like if you. look it's more like penny hardaway right. he's about he's about penny five yes so. so so that's what i'm saying they want.

to say he's not no spencer mello the new. breed something they ain't seen before. all my boys i tell them that. what was your emotions when lonzo got. traded from la because he was a hometown. kid chino hills. basically less than an hour away from. l.a. this is where you wanted him to be he. goes to new orleans okay yeah you know i. was happy as a uh i was happy as a big. baller in a donut shop. yes and i'm gonna tell you why here's. i don't care about where they play it's.

about the situation they're in on the. fact that you're in this. you're in this this field where you're. traveling all the time anyway so home. really ain't no big ass deal you're. playing 40 games on the road photo games. at home or whatever okay that's fine and. what i'm trying to tell people it. doesn't matter. where you stay you got to be in a place. where a coach is behind you to let you. do what you do when he believes in you. to believe that like i told him before. if magic was a coach. lonzo would have still been there on the. fact that what did he say he had so much.

belief in lonzo but i had no. right you know i would rather have lonzo. be tutored by the coldest point guard to. ever play the game which is magic right. so so now you got this guy right here. who's supposed to be the ultimate pro. and that's why that's why i said magic. is perfect. but if you're not the coach you had no. say so luke walton ain't no point guard. he was a small forward right and just. because you played with some other. players will make you a good coach and. your last name is walton don't mean you. a good coach don't get mad at me he's a.

good guy just not a good coach but. that's not the point and i'm sure if. he's not a good coach or was he not a. good coach for your son. you do the math what they're doing. sacramento you can put him anywhere the. boy ain't a good coach you can put him. anywhere but i'm like i said before how. do you coach the. well you came as an assistant coach over. there at uh what is that. don't say. man just because somebody back was. hurting all you did was stand up next. and now you're the best coach in the. world yeah you fooled them real good.

that's how it went down but. another one go ahead go ahead it seems. to me what you're telling me is that you. need a coach to coach your boys that. believe in your boy like you believe in. your boys okay. everybody listen to me who believed in. my voice and not said oh i'ma do this to. the voice of bully or you tell them what. to do no just listen what i'm telling. you because i coached him all his life. coach bake listen to me and ain't about.

to school let these boys loose let them. do what they do. successful steve alvin let give them. lines in the hand hand over the keys. right successful me but my boys every. time the games we played the exhibition. games in lithuania every time i coach we. don't lose. but yet you see this and you don't want. my boys to do that. uh jj it's fire believe in mello don't. do what you're gonna do whoever believes. in my sons are gonna be successful and. that's what i'm trying to tell them. after the first game lonzo edward oh. patrick built he did adventure that we.

ain't did nothing look what happened in. the second game lozo played the phoenix. did his thing and that's when i thought. we was cool but then you start taking. him out after the six minutes of the. first quarter and you got all these. other people you're trying to figure out. combinations and bringing the ball up. and now you got lonzo who used to play. in the whole game you spot planning now. you're getting injured because you're. playing 100 miles an hour then he's. sitting down sit down for six or five. minutes it's sitting down like 30. minutes in the nba right so now you're. killing his body he used to play 100. miles an hour and not sit down how about.

you drive your car 150 miles an hour and. get off the freeway and turn it off real. quick some hoses is going to bust. the same thing with your body so like. i'm saying this people just ask me where. i want melon go. i said it to a person who's gonna. believe him a coach who gonna let him. rock and do his thing. and watch with the success that comes. with that. do you like what they're building in new. orleans you like lonzo brandon ingram uh. zion williams williamson hey they can do. what they want but like i said my thing. is different and you know what that is i.

want all my boys. if all my boys go to charlotte and do. their thing they plan for the greatest. of all time something their dad has been. telling them from day one somebody got. to be better than jordan. now they're gonna look up to him so big. and bad be like mike you know what we're. gonna do for you make you the coldest. owner in the nba. and you're gonna win this championship. because i'm telling you down but between. three and five years my boys will win a. championship all together in charlotte. on the fact they're gonna figure that. combination out when one of them lose.

they all lose and they're not liking. about that losing thing and they're. gonna make him the baddest owner ever. because like i said he recognized. greatness and greatness is. all three of my boys together not. because i'm saying all the voices with. the family to get no because i know how. they can play the one two and three. switch on everything. pass that ball ahead and have no ego. problem. you got lonzo in the nba you got mellow. in the nba yes yellows in the g league. well yeah no g.

is he at now yellow in the g-league by. itself it's it man. the the nba door has closed when mello. did that when mello did so i said loans. all of us get on the bus right when that. don't close we good how do you get. how do we get how you get yellow up to. the big to the big to the big to the big. show. jump to the big show on this man here's. the thing jello got to the g league with. no representation no nothing. so now you got the representation of. rock nation do your job get my son to.

the goddamn tryout or whatever camp and. watch him go do his own thing he got the. name he got the body he got both of his. legs working he'd been working out hey. let's see if somebody else was trying to. get in the league and working out with. the number one pick. that would be a big story but jello been. working out with mello and jermaine the. number one pick. all this time people working out with. lonzo every day so it's like. is already in a situation i don't think. i'm gonna have three boys in the same. household and one of them gonna be like.

you know what i ain't gonna make it i. don't feel like working out today they. cut off from the same cloth and. everything they say mellow and soap. can't do jell-o can do oh you gotta get. stronger you got to get a better jump. shot general shoot better than both of. them any bigger and stronger than both. of them. so. bigger stronger. is there going to be i don't know if. they're going to be a summer league is. they're going to have enough time for a. summer. you don't even need a summer league. check this out. you got lonzo. and you got mellow you got two bookends. jello in the middle don't think that the.

representation or whatever can't say. excuse me. can you uh. give jello a shout out let's see what he. looks like with his brother think he got. that now. and you know you know rock nation also. got that pool with it where they can. talk behind the scenes right and get. jello a tryout or something and that's. all you want you just want to put the. door his foot gonna be in the door on. the fact that look what he bringing to. he can go to any franchise right now and. watch how the franchise blows up why his. last name is ball.

his last name is ball and he can play he. can shoot at a high clip so what i'm. saying is he's going to get the. opportunity. and like i said the best thing hey put. him over there with charlotte watch what. happened but he's going to get another. tryout somewhere else i don't know i. tell him to do a job because what they. did jello got both ankles ready he. healthy he's running he playing he's. shooting as soon as he steps over there. folks gonna be like oh i didn't know he. was this good now he get with his. brothers. whoever he get with lonzo jello i mean.

uh mellow they're gonna average 15. assists. and they pass into him he gonna average. anywhere from 25 30 points again. if i was if someone was doing a movie. or ask. ask you to write a book. about raising three boys in la and how. do you get two of the boys to be top. three picks in the nba draft what would. you say are some of the keys or the two. biggest keys for the success that you. have reading your boys to get them to. where they are they're too big.

like like i tell everybody man it's very. simple to be successful. you have to have a passion to do. something and you need at least one. person. the more to marry you need one person to. believe in you whether it be your mama. your grandmama your dad your mom because. somebody got to take you to practice. somebody got to keep your head level and. keep you going forward but if you got. one you can't do it on your own say man. i'm just going to try to make this. happen on my own no somebody got to. believe in you to help you out to be. successful and that's what i'm telling.

people hey the chips gonna land where. they are depends on how you no i'm gonna. say push them but try to lead them the. best you can without being resistance. like hey make them understand that hey. what you're trying to do i'm behind you. and like you said before you always talk. a lot about your grandma but if your. grandma don't tell you like you said. your grandfather said hey there let's go. out here and plow all this [ __ ] do some. work your grandmother said you know you. you challenge the son you're going to do. this man you got you do what you do i. got to watch you play i do because they. might be on something else and that's.

why you had that person where it's like. you know what your grandfather said i. got the fastest strongest sucker pull. all that [ __ ] through there right yo. your grandma said man let him go to. practice language man i gotta go watch. him play and that's where why you're. successful and your brothers is. successful that's how it goes but don't. have nobody believe me and watch out go. ain't gonna happen. when you were growing up. what did lavar ball want to be. when i was growing up what did lavar. ball want to be yeah oh [ __ ] that's a.

very easy one i want to be who i am. right now. no oh do you want to be a you want to be. an uh okay i didn't want to be nothing. i'll tell you what i was going to be my. own man is successful that's all however. it may be that's why i played any sports. you didn't want to play a professional. sport. oh man hey hey i love playing sports. anything baseball football diving. skateboarding i love playing because i. know you you know what i understood to. use that as a vehicle right. and that's and that's and that's what i.

did to get to get where i'm at but to. understand i understand that ownership. man. and that's a huge thing but. i'm exactly where i'm supposed to be. where did these entrepreneurial skills. come from i mean who owns who owned who. owned a business that you knew because a. lot of times we have nobody. nobody i can look at that by looking at. my mom and dad. and they mom and dad everybody in the. workforce man i don't want to be in the. workforce i see what they doing they all. know hey do something a certain way and. i don't like the way it look i'm gonna.

go another way and do something wrong. with and that's exactly what i did now. if you're just normal what do people. work for man i'll tell you what they. work for two things a house note and a. car note right play some professional. sports get both of those and guess what. you're on your way now. you don't have to worry about the house. knowing the car no use the money that. you made playing them sports to go ahead. and pay for that and guess what now. you're good now you can find something. that you want to do on your own right. now if you don't want to listen to. nobody guess what don't be talking crazy. and you're working under somebody and. let you go anytime so when you create. your own thing which i've always thought.

you know these athletes are doing all. the running and jumping in the shoe but. yet they don't own anything so when it's. all said and done guess what when that. money ain't coming in no more it's not. coming in no more because you don't own. anything right and that's why i try to. explain to my boys if you want to be a. billionaire you have to be which what. they are triple b's. that's ownership that all my boys have. right if you don't own nothing and don't. get mad like some of these folks do. lebron he only worth 400 million.

kobe 600 million that's so far away from. a billion because all the billionaires. own something if you don't have the. ownership you're never gonna get so good. well they're gonna get you but the bravo. get to obedient. i don't know how. well he got he got he got the uh the. tequila now he got a couple of things he. got he got the uh the production company. hey hey hey tell me what because. production company okay do you outright. own it notice some percentages and some. other investors in that thing to give. you a little bit you gotta guess what. it's got okay you can try to make it to.

a billion it's going to be cute if you. do but if you don't own that you ain't. making it to no billion i just got to. tell you all that it's just high goals. can can we crawl i mean you didn't. listen as much as you want people to. believe you didn't come out the womb. walking you had to crawl first you had. to stand up a little bit and fall down. and bump your head you had to crawl. before you start walking and then you. take off running. well i hate to tell you something i. didn't want to get my knees dirty so. when i was little i learned how to stand. up real quick and all i did was hold on. to stuff and slide and slide so i never.

did not crawling might mess up my cab. action. man hello this can't be true they said. you set a school record your school high. school record for rebounds in the season. oh did. all i know is is i walked around campus. with a with a with a. with a little scoop of windex because i. was always cleaning the glass. hello okay did y'all win the state. championship that's all i need to know. did who win the state championship the. team. yeah huh yeah no man i was out in the.

valley i told you what no athletes out. there but me. you should have but you should be able. to bring it home there you should have. one man bacon. one man bam i ain't trying to do all the. work i need some help. okay you go out the car you you high. school you go to college okay when you. go to college what's your mindset what. do you what do you want what do you want. to do what do you want to accomplish. while you're in college oh i was in. college like i said i'm thinking i'm. going pro in something i don't care. whether it'd be football basketball i.

went out for the football team man. dennis erickson was out there i told him. you got fold downs and i need you to. pass me the ball twice out of them foe. downs well i'm gone. second thing is out there i catch my ass. so i've got good hands fast do my moves. every time it was a running play and i. had to block i pulled that big guy in. there say hey man go on in there and. block i don't do no block. although. so in other words you just want the. glory you got together. i just want to catch the ball and run i.

don't want to do no blocking i don't. block good. i like to catch and in fact the things. didn't go right they said lavoy you. gotta do this i said okay if you want me. to play like that i'm gone and i went. right to cal state l.a went back to cali. okay. calvin sampson and uh. and uh. when i got out there for my recruiting. trip that food told me we were going to. practice an hour and a half i came from. west l.a we averaging almost 90 points a. game we gonna be running man he went to. a defensive strategy and we went to.

averaging almost i think barely 40. points a game so every time i got the. ball i go to the whole don't do my thing. he said no you gotta pass the ball. around i'm saying pass them a good shot. now i'm defining so that's why they had. the worst season ever when you put the. greatest talent on the bench and they. didn't tell you i scored two points two. rebounds i'ma tell you what it was in. two seconds. that's how fast i was moving. leave me in there for a whole game. you're getting funny baby.

okay you you go to uh what three. different colleges. right. west la washington state and then cal. state l.a. you meet tina in washington state. no no. no i mean no girls built like that in. washington state you got to stay in cali. for that i met tina at cal state l.a. okay. yes at cal state lake that's why she was. on the girls basketball team. and you say babe nice glass of water you. say okay babe hey you it whatever i was.

doing before hey you you it we go we. gonna build something together me and. you. i said i don't know what we gonna do but. we gonna do something together i didn't. tell him my name or nothing just kept on. walking to let her know and people tell. me to this day of are you the coolest. sucker in the world. you just walk by. i don't know what we gonna do but we. gonna do something together and bounce. and that's it keep it moving. and she and she thought you out she like. well who i want to know who that guy.

would have had never had to say who it. was because they knew when they seen me. on campus they said man that's the big. the big one with the green eyes oh. it's just the same one to talk to me god. you're. see look at this right here shannon you. know how it is man uh on the basketball. team you got some tall skinny dudes you. got some little bitty guys and then if. you me and you come on the court they're. gonna spot us because our bodies built a. little bit. that's when you'd be like man that dude. swole my jersey was only one all snug.

stuffed nuggets yeah they said man that. boy swole and you know i had them. hammies back in there you got them short. shorts some layers from looking like. some trees but i was streamlining that. athletic. cool. boy i was cold. okay can you go to the nfl. yes. what was what was that experience like. for you. that experience was fine man i didn't. care i wasn't gonna pay me some money. any time of the week i was good i said. man i used to lift weights for free at. home now y'all gotta do is sign my name.

and you give me a couple of thousand. shoot i'll be in here tomorrow and the. next day. but hey i would have went to a combine. if i would have went to a combine i. would have been probably in the nfl. longer for more people to see me that's. what's the only ones to see me man like. i said i didn't know nothing about uh. how they test and stuff like that they. had 220 on the bar i did it 20 times. standing up behind the neck. just to warm up because i said i warm up. with 220 standing up doing triceps like. this. and then they asked me on the bench man.

we had it they had me do a bench press. test but they put three plates on there. so i did it 20 times. and thinking that was a good amount of. numbers and the dude was like the next. closest dude was i think a lineman back. in my time her name was uh dwayne white. i think but he he was had his short arms. he only did 10. i was like yeah dudes is. rick i was benching 500. they was in awe. and i was jumping out the gym. you know it was nothing to me as far as. just being a talented athlete i it was. easy and what happened pete carroll is.

is a rah-rah guy he more of a coach. footage for college. yes and that's why him coming in there. he believed in me man if he would have. still been there i would have still been. probably with the jets he was like man. you can play tight in defensive end. you're just a talent and once i learn. that the schemes and the terminology. because i was like a dude coming fresh. out of high school straight yeah. i didn't play no football in college so. i don't know the terminology suckers. using and once i learned all that stuff. then they bring a rich coach.

now rich coach i do the drafting and. that's how political it is he drafts the. dude out of penn state which is kyle. brady died right now run circles around. that boy johnny mitchell he's not as big. as me he can't run like me he's from. nebraska yeah you coming from these big. names but if you don't give these guys. these reps and i'm an unknown and i'm in. here doing my thing the dudes who pick. that other guy gonna lose their job. right so now i'm not getting the reps. and i'm not doing this and i'm learning. the defensive end tight end but my tight. end coach didn't end up going to the.

carolina panthers right and then when he. went over there he got me over there hey. i made that little bit of money and i. said i'm gone i'm good now i made enough. i can buy a house and everything i'm. good now. [Laughter]. lavar you caught a lot of criticism tell. us about your parenting style. because i said this it's not about the. kids it's about lavar promoting lamar. lavar tell us about your parody style. well that's what everybody want to say. man but if you have something that you. created tell me you're not going to talk.

about it you make a cake you're going to. be like man i put the best ingredients. it's the best cake i'll give you a. scenario man have you ever ate a. chocolate chip cook chocolate chip. cookie the most famous one is who famous. amos that boy took his stuff to parties. and promoted like that and they said you. know that's the best chocolate chip. cookie in the world but that's the same. thing i did with my boys i could invest. in some real estate and some other. things i don't want to do that i want to. invest millions of dollars. if you add it all up into my boy. something that's mine i tell you what to.

save money you probably paint your own. house do your own thing if you ain't got. no money first do it and you're gonna do. a hell of a job people will come in and. say man can you do mine. you'll be like to make some money you. probably say yeah but then you'll be. like i don't know if it's going to be as. good as mine because i put my work 24. hours to make a difference. so that's the same thing don't get mad. at me that i do that with my boys so i i. expect the best out of them why because. i put the best time into them. but i'm never gonna be like i took an.

element out of. my boys that that creates. i'm gonna tell you what you do not go to. beverly hills or a thousand oaks or. chino hills to get no killers all the. killers come from the ghetto they have. to come from nothing right i never was. like hey son i need you guys and this is. all the pressure they put on a lot of. the youngsters. hurry up and get us out of this. situation that we in but i don't need my. boys hey make the league so i can get. out of chino hills i mean all these. hills and all these swimming pools you. got to get us away from this. the money is not the thing everybody.

that's in the draft. needs some money they got to get it from. these agents and all this stuff to get. started because they never had it before. right so how do you make this guy be. like oh man a lot of them is playing for. the money mine i totally born to go pro. and the only thing on their mind is. being better than jordan. it ain't about the money. you said you touched on something just a. minute ago yes because they said well. lavar come from upper middle class and. his kids are spoiled.

because they had swimming pools they had. i mean they're getting ferrari they're. getting lamborghinis so. how they how do they know what it's like. to be hungry how do they know what it's. like to go without. i'll tell you what. if i see some fire come up and you said. it's hot. i don't need to go get burnt to make. sure it is hot. it's the same thing okay my boys i can. tell them about it here's the thing. the mentality that's around my boys i.

don't need them to take them to south. central to see all that right they're. living in chino hills but the mentality. is from a dude from la south central. right melo is hanging with jermaine. jermaine is from the hood of detroit. his mentality is different. now you're saying don't be mad at me if. you win the lotto you're gonna go out. and buy the most. crazy car you probably gonna buy yeah. and if you can afford to give them that. give them that but now see my boys ain't. getting to the league saying oh i got. some money about ferrari. so that don't drive them they just want.

to be the best ever if you want to be. the best ever all the materialistic. things don't matter so it's not a big. thing but they're not spoiled on the. fact that this is what i told my boys. you're going to work hard. whether you do it in the beginning or. the end and everybody said oliver don't. let his kids be no goddamn kid let them. go to the prom let them go yeah all the. people to go to the prom they ain't. millionaires like my boys. they running hard running in heels. that's when they work hard don't have. all these parties and go to the prom and. now you're trying to make ends meet and.

at the end of your day you you're trying. to get a job go to college and see where. you're gonna be at i got three boys. none of them is asking me for money they. young as hell and they are millionaires. so what's bad in that. you were trending earlier because you. was on another show. and you told your boys. you're not going to meet anybody while. you're playing in the nba you're going. to meet the garden tool. yeah yeah yeah. i'm just keeping it real i don't want to. say. garden tools at home but you're not.

going to be you used to basically you're. here you're not going to meet your wife. while you're playing in the nba uh. that's what i said. here's the thing you have to. you got to understand this. there's two end of the spectrum. sometimes where it's good on this end. you don't see where it's bad at this end. right here's my thing which i always say. it's fun in the beginning but it's pain. in the end whatever you do and i'm gonna. give you a scenario why i said that my. wife said what do you mean that's not. even levar so what are you saying about. us i said babe listen to this.

me and you mary it's gonna be fun it's. all fun this whole journey but the pain. is at the end because one of us got to. die first. right so they go to pain okay now with. my boys in their profession. when you meet somebody shannon you know. yeah you meet your girl you you in. school all the time you see her every. day you know what she about okay you. meet her at the job she's working every. day you say oh man i keep running. towards the job okay oh i see your. church every sunday oh okay how are you. gonna meet the same girl if you're.

traveling your whole career of playing a. sport now the thing is you're making all. this money and you young so people. googling you and coming up to you acting. like they don't know you so how you. gonna meet them you gonna meet them at a. restaurant where you gotta get something. to eat you're gonna meet them at the. goddamn uh stadium after trying to hang. around so you don't meet them at the. club. or you got to go to your hotel and. you're going to meet him there so guess. what they're going to be. so they're going to be traveling so do. you. come to the xavier and i said this is.

how i was i would have loved to have. married my high school or college. sweetheart. someone that when i had nothing i could. honestly say i can't i had absolutely. nothing i was even embarrassed to bring. him to my home that's how little i had. right but unfortunately that wasn't able. to happen and it kind of it kind of. because and i still go through that to. this day do they really like me for just. being shannon or for what shannon can. provide. right and see and that's where it's at. now that's why you never gonna know and.

then check this out let's say you go. through some things and you meet this. pretty girl and she's 30 years old right. or she's 29. why is she just fine and by herself. they might have to ask yourself these. are the questions that you have to ask. yourself. what it is what it is what what about if. the situation were reversed but harry. lavar yoked all up green eyes six foot. four 255 chiseled he thirty he's single.

why are you single. because i don't ran through all the. other ones. lord have birth lord lord help me. god help me. see. you did the right thing you needed to. get married early because you if you was. a you were going to be a mess. hey early early is what you call early. is probably with your.

[Music]. exactly that's how it was back in the. day i get all my running around and. doing all this stuff man even with tina. man uh. you know and i just found somebody who. was perfectly compatible to me which is. which is outgoing athletic i don't i. don't think if i married just a tall. blonde that wouldn't work he had to be a. basketball player because even when i. got on the boys they would score 30 and. 40 points and we'll lose by one or two. they tina was like you can't go tina.

wasn't like well your dad's just man. then you guys wanting this tina be like. boy you should have scored two more. layups you would have 40 then we would. have won. you ain't coming to me crying yeah. listen this mellow got knocked down he. was in kindergarten we playing against. these sixth graders tina can't go out. there don't you hurt my baby she's like. boy you better get your ass up. that's how it was so we on the same page. and right never like. family outing for us was going a. basketball game all week go eat after. that why but a team a volleyball player.

or not an athlete after a few years of. this what's she gonna say i gotta go. spend some time with the girls i need a. break you know what mel uh bar you found. the only woman in the world that could. deal with you you got jane wright. because i don't know what brunswick deal. with me because then they just be yes. with me but now but to make something. that me and tina make come on. that girl the coolest one in the game. you you you speak a lot about ownership. and you mentioned earlier about these. guys getting these deals and some of. these guys get deals you know five years.

50 million five years you know 100. million james harden has a 200 million. dollar contract uh uh kd got a 300. million dollar contract but you said. it's ownership right why is it. you didn't a lot i mean. you is they're grown now to get go with. puma or nike what what is it. that you you know what if they fail i'm. still there listen. okay i'm the only one to come in the nba. with his own brand. because i've seen all the guys with. these endorsement deals and they don't.

want the big baller brand to work. because if it does it's gonna start. changing a lot of thinking with a lot of. guys right we used to say just like be. honest you can't get a. so-called signature shoe unless you play. what seven years in the league and you. finally become a championship or you. make an all-star game right now i got. these folks looking at them like hold up. where's my signature shoe. on the fact that jello got one and he's. not even in the league mello got one in. high school so what are y'all telling me. about a signature shoe and what these. guys don't understand is you have enough. money. to go make your own goddamn shoe but you.

won't they take the lid off the drawer. we can jump out but the large jar been. all so long the top they don't even try. so now you got guys like. uh. you know. a couple of the big time players crying. to get an endorsement just like i hope. they make me a signature sure i hope. they sign me why you're a 100 million. dollar man go do your own even if you. just sell them in your hometown at least. you shouldn't have ownership see the. thing is lavar the difference is between. the way you think in the way they think. right you're not afraid to take that.

leap of faith and go out there and fail. and say well if i failed at this i'll. try something else. for those guys they're not they're. afraid to fail. you're not here here's the thing. that's probably it and it's not even. about failing you can do it for a little. bit it's just like people talk about oh. the big brother bringing this around let. me tell y'all something. it ain't got nothing to do with the boys. if they don't want to do it if i don't. want to do it it shuts down. and it's not like i have blinders on for. all these years just worrying about my.

boys getting to the league right closely. close these things for me too much time. but but blinders on now the blindness is. off so i ain't liking some people in the. goddamn nba to say lavar i rock your. merch for a merch deal. i got guys calling me right now so let. me ask why i wear that triple b man i. ain't got no deal i think i don't shoot. him ain't got nothing but now i can go. out and talk to these guys because guess. what i got all three of my boys in the. nba now we can do some other things. so that's where i'm at. so where because.

where the where is the big baller brand. shoe at now is lonzo gonna wear a big. baller brand if you go into nike puma. adidas. what are they gonna do they're gonna do. the same thing and they can do whatever. they want here's the thing with big ball. of brand you have independence which is. that's going to allow you to wear any. shoe you want. which is not the case. for who right now. mellow you sign a deal. you better wear them pumas wherever you. go right now hey don't think i ain't.

gonna make no more big bowler brand. shoes we we doing that as we speak but. we gonna come out with it when we want. to now jello jealous man come on watch. what i do these shoes when jello creates. these other shoes he gonna make and. lonzo can do the same thing but when you. sign these deals and they cap you off. just say yo this is the only shoe you. can wear. a lot of the people have been through it. look who was with uh puma before vince. carter how long he stayed with him. so it ain't like they can't change and.

do some other things it's the same thing. and it's not a big deal but like i said. we don't have no shoe made right now. we're doing some other things but we're. going to come back to the works and. guess what my boys getting their nba and. do their thing. who knows mello might be like you know. what i had enough of these let me get. them back man yo mb1 is always over here. son your g3s is always over here and. your zo2s are always over here no matter. what they do. what. lonzo left lonzo was with roc nation he. left roc nation and with the clutch.

sport are you clutch sports are you okay. with. here's that. thing also going to do whatever he wants. just like melo and jello can do whatever. they want. and you got two of the biggest. you know black representations you got. roc nation you got clutch sports. what do they have in common. each one of them got my sons and i'm at. the peak of that. so i'm gonna bring both agencies. together let's do something together hey. represent both and represent them all. let's do it as long as you get done what. need to be done that's good.

do you believe do you believe lonzo lost. anything by not signing a shoe deal out. of college waiting for you or should you. have waited to build the brand because. it seemed like you no no no no no here's. the thing lonzo. it is what it is lonzo is only one to. come in the nba with his own signature. shoe coming in the nba he's a history. maker lonzo got his own shoe right we. can make another one right now if he. wanted. lonzo ain't lost nothing here's the.

thing lonzo don't care about nothing but. my thing is this if you have a passion. to do something and you happen to get. paid doing it you win it you got a big. mouth and you love to talk they paying. you all just to comment on some stuff. used to do that on your porch talking. about people and people on the street. now you can pay me as a dollar to sit. there and talk about a game or. or or a player or whatever that's what. you love to do and it's natural to you. so guess what you got a passion and talk. that's why you still on the air a lot of. these folks. they don't have that type of flare that.

you have that creates that oh let me. look at me you argue a little bit i'd. say that shannon sharp ain't a goddamn. thing and then we come back and do some. things but you know here's the thing. you're good at what you do. the boy is good at what they do and. that's that's all that matters because. you got everything they like you like. man i got to make me some more money so. i can try to do this that's why they got. shay shake club look at you telling me. they put [ __ ] club on on the big thing. you said man i gotta have my own thing. call this [ __ ] [ __ ]. is uh is big baller gonna gonna collab.

with brand jordan. am i gonna collab with brian jordan no i. was gonna do i was gonna do a collab. before but i was like nah i like to own. my stuff. what i mean by that is when you have a. collab this is what happens. you have to agree and i have to agree. right you have what we're going to have. right now it's just about what big. baller want what he like and i don't. have to collab i was going to think. about doing that with with puma so then. i got to thinking i was like you know. what i don't want to collab now i just.

want to keep my own thing and that's it. it's a privately owned company i don't. have no say so with nobody investors. trying to come and get in i say no. i'm my own dude so. that's what it is gonna be and i'm gonna. build it myself and only investment that. i want. the investors i'm ever gonna have on my. sons and usually you got one person make. the nba they got that one money but from. our ball family. we got money coming in forways me and. tina.

the boys each got their own lane yeah i. got three players gonna be in the nba so. when we put all that money together now. if i want to create something. and it cost me 20 mil. and i only got 30 mil. it might put a little dent on me but if. i say you know what let me get five meal. from lonzo five mil from jello five mil. from uh mellow and put my five we got 20. million nobody's stretched out right. so so togetherness it's going to allow. us to move as a huge unit and that's. what i'm trying to make everybody on the.

outside understand about big brother. brand is if our kind ever. get together it's gonna be dangerous. what have you learned most about running. a business being an owner of a business. well what i've learned most is man don't. let one person do all the work or don't. let one person feel that they can do all. the work. and you get a better team around you. that allows you to move at a better pace. and that's what's going on now it's not. about how many people you got around you. it's the right people to write. that allows you to be successful but you. also i think to be successful in.

anything there's always got to be a. change it just can't flow one way. and what it is you learn different. things when you when you start going. further and further and you're going to. have to make change because the world. changes all the time so right you have. to go with that what would you do if you. could do anything over again nothing. because i wouldn't be where i'm at and. everybody would be so take one thing out. of the thing and try to do it all. different and guess what everything. changes so in order for nothing to. change and to keep moving forward keep. everything the same you wouldn't change. you wouldn't change one thing.

i wouldn't change nothing. one false move look at this i'm gonna. tell you for whatever change. let's say. i get. pete carroll stays with the jets big. baller plays 10 years in the nfl you. won't even hear about my boys. because i have so much money i don't. have no time to train them all i'm gonna. do is wait for the off season so i can. train myself to make sure we keep. getting these large checks and i have.

all this money and give you all whatever. you want right now i don't spend all. this time with you to make you the. coldest and get in your mind that you'll. be the best ever right so now you don't. even hear about the boys that's why. people get mad at me when i said wow. these these guys that are super athletes. that are superstars their kids don't. turn out to be that cold. on the fact that how. you get too much already not too much. but you don't have to drive that where. your mom and pops came from to get where. you had to get you out of that situation. but when you talk about a.

when you got a a great player your. father is great i'm talking about. historically yes transcending great. what's the likelihood of you having a a. transcendent or a great son or daughter. is not likely. that god is going to give you the water. he even let you hit the lottery like. that. and let me let me explain this to you so. you can really understand. i was one of the world's greatest. athletes nobody know about so my boys. have no expectation to do that's why. they're so great yes.

yes because now now look at you got. michael jordan's sons you got magic sons. you got everybody got sons man and they. expect their son yeah they put that high. expectation on them unreal jackson they. expect to be the most powerful dominant. center in the world that's not his game. and that's not his his mind frame is not. even like that so everybody trying to. get from under that situation and say oh. you're just like you're dad but if you. don't have that expectation coming at. you and your dad is good i'm gonna tell. you a person just like dale curry it. wasn't like i say you know what let me.

turn on this tv so i can see how great. of a shooter dale curry is. no that's why he hanging with steph i. mean uh that's why steph's such a good. shoe his dad was okay he wasn't no. greatest what steph is now right and the. same thing i say about jelly bean brand. he was good overseas but your son kobe. was a. but you was i don't say it saying it bad. like he was a scrub or nothing like that. no you made it but look where you took. him to play in italy grown men you allow.

him to get in situations that a regular. kid couldn't so guess what he gonna. become that superstar your hometown team. lakers won the championship are you. surprised they had this level of success. this soon. yeah no they're in the bubble. in a bubble all this stuff goes right. but i like i told them they need to send. me a thank you card on the fact that i. gave them incentive to win. what would you do whatever ever i ever. win you know they was talking about that. for a whole year what did you say last. year somebody remember that's how i'd be.

living in people's head and you know. what just so they can say i told you he. was wrong i still go to bed take me a. nap eat my donuts and i don't think. about nothing they've been thinking. about this home for a whole year hey i'm. glad they won lakers is always my team. because i'm from l.a. but the success that they have man. you're in the bubble playing in the same. place you got the two best players. you're supposed to win. but everybody else was playing in the. bubble too so it made it easy. i'm talking about the situation you're. not traveling everything is is is. perfect hey you shoot and get a rhythm.

on a certain realm you're good you ain't. got to leave the building right oh you. walk to the next little thing then. you're walking you're not traveling come. on everybody else in the bubble too but. yeah i'm glad they had a championship. and these guys are talking oh i'm not. gonna play i'm not gonna do this nah. play and have a championship but let's. go. are you surprised how well lebron is. playing this late in his career because. we've never seen anybody play this well. in in basketball you know never seen. anybody play this well this late. why.

because he built. that boy came in the game strong and. heavy he adorable. he ain't a little lightweight 205 215. 210 he can take that contact that. running that he can do it all and he. young he's old but he's young i mean you. know you you still you probably. you might not dunk again but i think you. probably don't when you're probably 48. well it ain't the problem getting up. it's the problem that's coming down. that's the problem that i'm gonna have. but i'm just saying you're still in good.

shape you're strong you still can do. some things on the fact that lebron is a. little skinny thing that there's that. you're running into him and he getting. hurt durant and clay and all they're not. built like him so he everybody's shocked. he's strong but but. he built what i mean by that he ain't. that overweight like i'm seven feet 350. right that boy you know 250 260 69. running and jumping and he take care of. his body. i'm not shocked whoever the strongest in.

the league gonna do the best that's why. when will did this thing he was the. strongest in the league when when uh. shaq did this thing strongest in the. league best two guard was was dwyane. wade for a minute because he was the. strongest two guard best point guard was. uh. the strength of him was derose back in. the day when he was good he was powerful. anybody powerful and they they. in their position is usually gonna be. the best. will this debate about who's the goat. ever in between lebron and jordan or.

who's your goal how how do we how do we. determine that what's that we're never. going to be able to determine it that's. why we got to keep talking about it. because you never can go back into that. era and be like yo this is what i'm. going to do it's what people did in. those eras you know what it's who you. grow up on i mean to do the stuff that. lebron does nobody been that big and. stressed like saying okay carmelo i need. you go out there and play point that. ain't gonna never happen because they. don't have skills like that it's the. same thing magic you big but you ain't. 260 like lebron you ain't jumping like.

that now as far as that player build. like that he's a monster but the. greatest of all time is. how do you measure that you measure that. by your victories and what you did in. those victories i ain't talking about. you got 12 rings and you've been on five. different teams. i'm talking about a dude who went to the. finals who was the main guy six times in. a row. and you can't if you can't beat that. when you have losses on your on your on. your record you can't be the greatest of. all time that dude ain't got no losses. in the finals so it's always gonna be.

michael jordan until my boys succeed. that which is going to happen well first. of all you can't just say it's all about. the final labar because they did play. finals in the seasons that he didn't go. to the finals what about that. well like i said at the finals if you. don't get there off the hook well you. know you don't have to hook so in other. words see what you did if you don't go. to the final but when you go to the. finals you got to lose one no. no championship's going at it. the best from the west. you're right nobody lose.

well you can call nobody if you want to. whoever out there i see somebody. okay since you you say you can't. transport you can't put lebron back in. the 80s you can't bring jordan to the. 2000s okay give me your all-time. starting five then any era all-time. starting point all time starting five yo. you know you got mike you got uh johnson. you got uh shaquille.

uh. who else oh you gotta have you gotta. have a shooter so uh. i gotta put oscar oscar robinson out. there. and then you got lebron. so you going jordan magic shaq lebron. oscar robinson yes. i ain't the bad starting five. i started fighting boys all can do their. thing and you got a seven footer that. can run with you most powerful in the. nba ever.

okay i want you to career i want lebron. ball since he's good at building things. and creating things he's the great. entrepreneur okay. i'm gonna give you some some. characteristics and i want you to build. a perfect the perfect. basketball nba player so if i say like. shooting i'm gonna say you say steph. so okay passing. magic. handles. oh.

that's that's a.i. athleticism. lebron. mentality. sure. speed. speed i'm going with iverson. i obviously got two of those things in. there so. no shooting so shooting is still hands. down did we not even look hands down.

would you say uh steph revolutionized. the game. no i ain't gonna say revolutionized. games i got a lot of guys shooting from. far distance and stuff like that but. nobody was shooting like he was with the. consistency. the the the lobo three it's not even. about the consistency because this. consistency is there they're only. showing the ones you really make. uh for mark jackson to give him the. leeway to shoot anywhere that's allowed. him my boys are shooting further than. him.

easy layups you know but who allows you. to do that you know if you're doing it. in these games and what people were. saying oh all the boys are shooting all. over the place yeah we was doing that. when they used to ask us about the chino. hills team man you guys remind us of the. uh. the golden state warrior i see i don't. know how we play fast in them we scoring. 100 points and damn near 30-something. minutes they got 48 minutes and getting. 120. give me 48 minutes we go to 200. you. you look at that team.

you got two guys get drafted in the top. three you got the number six pick what. fifth or sixth pick in the draft. and you got a guy that's in college and. you got another guy that's on the cusp. of getting into the nba so basically. your five starters. are going to be in the. fourth the fourth start is going to be. in the nba and you would have potential. right. that's why i said we're the greatest. high school team ever. because nobody ever had a starting team. that make it all in the goddamn nba like.

that office i'm talking about starting. to do coming off the bench i'm talking. about that starting five right there. which i created and what is onika good. at rim running defense what i told him. what he was gonna do if he played with. my boys coming fresh in i put that in. his head eli same thing these guys are. the players because i'm making them. players put them in my system say my. boy's gonna do a lot of shooting and. running and we ain't waiting for nobody. to post up take too long but i'll tell. you what we will do a screen and roll.

dunk it rebound let's go so that's the. players they are and they all get a shot. you mentioned earlier that jello got. into a little incident in china yes um. things worked it way out but you got. into a feud with with president trump. yeah. you took office you took offense to. something that he said. yes. well the thing is don't don't don't talk. bad about me or say you enough i ain't. going to apologize to nobody who don't. come shake my hand and i don't meet.

like i told them before if it really. helped out you the one came over there. in that big ass plane why you didn't. take us back on your plane if i'm coming. to get you shannon i ain't gonna say i'm. coming to get you and send somebody else. right that's why i'm gonna tell you i'm. coming to get you. that's not what i'm talking about but. don't try to make it look like i better. i saved you i did this and i didn't know. you didn't i ain't met you not one time. you didn't even come over there saying. you know what i think angelo angelo. ball's in trouble let me go over there. you already over there doing some other. stuff now don't try to tag on and put it.

on our plate to act like you're doing. something no i don't want that so now. since i go against you and tell you the. truth now you're mad at me. i don't even know this dude is texting. i'm not texting but tweeting somebody. told me while i was on the road. oh exactly. i was like man i ain't even wait i ain't. gonna tweet back i don't even twitter. tweet i don't do none of that i'll call. you on the phone so once he said what he. said knowing the lavar that i know he. ain't going back down he goes like oh. man i ain't going to pay that no.

attention i got to respond hey you. nothing to put my name in your mouth and. have talking crazy about me and my. friend. exactly exactly oh he's just a don king. with no hair and this and i'm like man. what's all that about just hey you over. here focusing on you want me to say i'm. sorry you need to concentrate you're a. president concentrate on another thing. on the world. messing with somebody on twitter that's. that's why you you don't do your job. right you got to be out don't be mad. because you can't presidency the right. way if you would have been worried about. the right topics instead of the wrong.

topics you might have did some work. and you might have got a second. yeah that's what you did yeah exactly. give me lavar balls prediction for 2021. what's going to happen in 2021. what's gonna happen in 2021 yep. but big baller brand is gonna be bigger. and better than ever then the ball boy. is going to steal the shine and let. everybody know. this how you do business ownership after. money it's about that ownership.

so if you if you were if they if harvard. or one of these stanford or one of these. great business school uh uh uh wharton. school of business if they come in and. say lavar ball we want you to give a. presentation we want you to talk to our. students about business about ownership. about entrepreneurial. what would you say to those students. if it ain't doing my nap time i'm gonna. come holla at you. [Laughter]. bad you two ought to be taken down. during the middle of the day.

the snaps are the best thing going. but they all know i now but do it messes. up your sleep at night because i noticed. that if i nap during the day it messes. up my sleep at night. i don't need to sleep at night you don't. mess me up because i ain't got nothing. i'm supposed to do and when you don't. you just get i don't even have a clock. on man. when i'm there i'm there if you ain't no. no clock or no bail system you can do. you can take a nap anytime i'm gonna. take a nap right after this talking with. you. man it's gonna be so early in the. afternoon so you plan on being up for. the rest of the night then.

if i am who cares. man lebron i want to say congratulations. because thank you thank you it's been a. pleasure. bro you got two young men. you can owe you the only one that can. say i got two young men drafted in top. three picks of the nba draft. and no matter what you think about me. and you know we had a conversation how. much credit does levar ball deserves and. i and i said he deserves as much credit.

and we give archie and olivia manning. for having two boys to go in the first. and the number one overall pick from. peyton and eli i said you can't look at. it because you don't like him and don't. want to give him any credit or because. you say well he needs to humble himself. no no no no no get him at his credit. like you give because you know that we. got we got to be humble now we can't we. we can't be our true self or then we. might rub some people the wrong way but. beyond. they always say.

i don't even know what you said but what. you explained to me right there i. appreciate that because like you say. it's a different type of thing now like. you said we're going to give them a. props like that but they don't want to. say oh lavon tina did their job i get it. i appreciate you putting that out there. like that thank you you know hey look. the one thing that you told me out there. saying look i don't agree with. everything you say but you say you know. what you keep it 100. you keep it real. you fair with it and i appreciate that. okay much love much love bro i. appreciate you giving me a little time. today congratulations again through your.

thing man it's good talking with you man. good talking to you tell tina sit hello. at you later hey you. all right i appreciate that bro. baby all right. all my life been grinding all my life. sacrifice hustle pay the price. wanna slice got to roll the dice that's. why all my life i've been grinding all. my life look all my life been running.

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