K. Michelle On LeBron, Memphis, Pooh Shiesty, Gucci Mane, IVF,  Love & Hip Hop & Music Industry

Hold on. Hold on. Time out. Let me get a. 20 second timeout. You mean to tell me. you could watch your your man? >> I have several times. >> You like you get up on that? >> Maybe it's weird, but I I kind of like. it. But [music]. >> you think he could handle watching. somebody be with you intimately? >> I would hope. >> I'm Hercu Lee. Herky Lee. Her. >> Okay. HERCULES. >> OH, NO. NO. NO. AIN'T NOBODY BEEN to be. Thanos and my old lady. I can watch you. for women to allow you all to have. threesomes and [music] go do things, but. that's okay. But you can't allow the.

same thing. >> I don't. >> why. Just say why. >> Okay, here. >> All my [music] life been grinding all my. life. Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, want [music] to slice, got to roll the. dice. That's why. All my life I've been. grinding all my life. All my life. [music] been grinding all my life. sacrifice hustle paid the price a slice. [music] to roll a dice that's why all my. life I've been grinding all my life. >> hello welcome to another episode of club.

Shay I am your host Shannon Sharp I'm. also the propri of Club Shay stopping by. for conversation on the drink today is a. multi-thread she's a platinum selling. singer an award-winning songwriter a. trained pianist a skilled guitarist a. powerhouse vocalist a boundary pushing. artist an accomplished composer and a. musician she's released five consecutive. Ive Billboard chart topping albums, a. versatile reality TV superstar, an. entrepreneur, a restaurant tour, an. actress, an entertainer with a larger. than-l life personality. She's. undeniably starpowered and she's a. straight shooter, a fan favorite who's.

built a worldwide audience, a mother, a. wife, and she's here today on Club Shay. Memphis's own K Michelle, [cheering]. >> how you doing? >> How did I do? Did I do you right in the. intro? >> I feel good. [laughter]. >> Well, thank you very much. >> I feel at home. Well, after I mentioned. all those accolades, let's let's toast. to all the success that you've enjoyed. and yet you will continue to enjoy. This. is my Kgnac Sha by La Portier. Let me. know what you think. >> Let's see. Let's see. Let's see.

>> I think it's smooth. >> I like smooth. >> Yeah, it's smooth. >> And so, you don't get that kick. You. don't get that like, damn, you trying to. >> Yeah, >> it's just like. >> Yeah, this going to have a conversation. Nice. You know, you see the backdrop. We. got the books going on. So, we just. about to have a nice conversation. >> Okay. [clears throat] Okay. >> Why are you looking at me like that? >> Cuz it's so much I want to ask you. [laughter]. >> And now you get you want to ask me. questions. Okay. During during the. interview, we we'll uh during the. conversation, you'll be allowed to ask.

me some questions. Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> All right. Born and raised in Memphis. >> Yeah. >> What do people get wrong about Memphis? I think that they. take, you know, the culture away from. the city. >> Okay. >> I feel like, yes, you know, we're in a. dangerous time in Memphis, you know, but. when it comes to the heart and the soul. and the fight, if I wasn't for Memphis, I wouldn't be able to deal with being in.

the industry. >> Wow. Okay. >> There's no way possible. >> So, how did Memphis prepare you to be. able to deal? because I've had a lot of. uh musicians and entertainers on and and. tell me how seedy and shady the music. industry is. So, how did Memphis prepare. you to be able to deal and handle that. type of environment? >> Being a woman in this business. >> and really taking a stand for yourself. and saying no, >> it allowed me to be like, I don't care. if this falls through, then something. else will come through, right?

>> Like there's always a way to get in. There's always a door, a window, you. know, >> right? the back of the club, get to the. front, you're gonna always keep fighting. to do what it is you want to do. In that. city, >> we couldn't do anything but fight to try. to make it out. >> Growing up in Memphis is what what did. you want to do? What did you want to. become? So, when KM Michelle would say. like seven, eight, 10 years of age, what. did you envision yourself being like. when I'm an adult, this is what I'm. going to be. This is where I'm going to. live or this is what I'm going to do.

>> I always said I was going to be a. country singer. [laughter] That was my. whole thing. It's always been like that. for me. I always was going to do that. and then you know uh graduated from. Florida&M. >> and I got in law school so I was like. well I'm going to be a lawyer well maybe. I'll be a lawyer but it just wasn't. >> that wasn't the car seat that wasn't. where your heart was at. >> No I wanted to sing and talk [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> So when someone says hey K I'm headed to. Memphis. >> Uhhuh. >> What do you tell them? What do they need. to do? Cuz I don't know a whole lot.

about Memphis. I've had a layover. I. mean I flew into Memphis many many years. ago. So I flew into Memphis and I rented. a had a driver take me down to Bahaley, Mississippi. Okay. I ended up picking up. a dog. So I don't know anything about I. know about Bill Street. I know about. Graceand. I know about Rendezvous. I. know about Charlie Ver. But that's about. that's about all I know about Memphis. >> So you don't know about the hotel? >> I don't We going to talk about the. hotel? I don't know. I've never stayed. at a hotel in Memphis. >> Okay. Um Memphis is way more than their. hotel. >> Okay. And um if you said you were going to.

Memphis, I would first tell you that you. must you must have your list of. restaurants where you're going to eat. lined up for you cuz we are food. >> Okay. >> You know, you have New Orleans, I'm. sorry, but then you have Memphis when. they. >> Memphis right there with New Orleans as. far as food. >> Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Um as far as. barbecue, everything you have that you. definitely have to do Bill Street. Okay. >> Now, am I telling you to do Bill Street. like late at night? Like I I didn't say. that. [laughter] But you have to do Bill. Street. You have to do the National. Civil Rights Museum. Okay? Like that's.

one thing I'm very proud of. My father. is more famous than me in the city of. Memphis because he's a professor and. he's graduated a lot of. African-Americans, you know, and he had. me work at the National Civil Rights. Museum when Martin Luther King was. killed. >> Wow. Okay. and I would spend the night. there. >> and you know to know that Martin Luther. King you know took his last breath here. and it was always like a thing and he. made sure that I was a tour guide okay. >> and he would pay me out of his pocket.

when I was in high school. So you have. to go to the civil rights museum. >> Um you have to just experience. the city. When I say this I'm going to. say it how it should be said. you have. to go to um love. You have to do all the. clubs in Memphis because it's like, you. know, people actually dance in these. clubs. People actually feel the music. It's just a lot of culture and soul in. that city.

>> I don't know. I mean, you told me to. stay away from Bill Street late at. night. Now you want me to go? >> No. You can't walk down on Bill Street. about no 2:00 or something in the. morning. Like, I wouldn't I wouldn't. >> Well, there are places there that's not. only Bill Street. There are places in. Atlanta. I wouldn't advise you to walk. down or New York or Chicago or a lot of. other cities that I wouldn't advise you. to walk especially alone at that time of. the morning. So, >> absolutely. >> You mentioned something and it seemed. like this is really on your mind. This. is on your heart that you want to talk. about is that LeBron talked about.

Memphis and you had a quote. You said. trying to pull one of the greatest. assets from the predominantly black said. it has become you don't like the hotels. is insane. It's a much deeper. conversation. What is the deeper. conversation that need to be had? >> Black elites. Okay. >> Black elites, people do things like. because you might not have grown up like. them or because, you know, you're in. this environment, this or that. We have. black elites. We have people who have. made it, who have made money, who have. done this and that. And they do, they. look down upon other blacks.

>> and other black spaces and places um. because they may not be in those places. anymore, that type of situation. And how. it touched me, it was something for me. It just did something for me to watch um. someone that my son roots for and I love. LeBron. I love his wife. I think she's. amazing. Like I love that black love. I. love all of that. But to see him. standing amongst, you know, other races speaking so bad about, you.

know, a city that we're already. fighting. So you're going to take the. gri grizzlies from us, but leave us with. Elon Musk. We [laughter]. That's what we're going to do. No, you. know, I like I like like the Tesla line. like I do. Thank you. But you're going. to leave our city with all this. radiation, everything going on. You're. going to leave our city. We don't know. what's over there in that warehouse over. there with the line. But you going to. leave all of that over there, but you. going to take the Grizzlies from them. >> Right. >> So,

>> but that's how you took it. You you took. it as if like he's looking down like, okay, you were at once somebody like. Memphis. You grew up with a single mom. in Akan, Ohio. But I took it as like. look he said there are a couple of. places that I don't really like playing. and it's like me he said Memphis he said. Milwaukee he said hell I don't like. going home and I'm from there but he I. mean. >> after the fact. >> but but I don't care it's what you said. at first you sat there amongst them. people playing your little golf talking. your little miss. >> it's not just him that's trying to.

that's saying you get what I'm saying it. hit me in a way because this has been. going on for years trying to remove the. Grizzlies it's not him it's not just him. why so upset when he said. >> because he he should have set that one. out. He should have been quiet when it. come the state the state of the black. community. We need everything we can in. order, you know, I want the little boys. to be able to see an actual NBA player. You know what I'm saying? I want them to. be able to go and watch that and have.

that in this city that is so full of. violence and different ways that you can. go if you aren't directed right or don't. have the mother or father grandparents. praying for you like. >> you I'm sorry you're an athlete people. look up to you Shannon like they look up. to these men in these cities so we're. going to take these role models out of a. place because I I get it you know I know. it's bigger than my thoughts on hotels. I get, you know, y'all do big business.

and, you know, in the sports industry, but I have to see it for people. I have. to see it as as a as a, you know, girl. out of there having a son. I have to. watch it for that. And for you to say, you know, oh, the hotels are bad. Okay. Yeah, it's deeper than that. People have. said this before that the Grizzly should. not be I get it in Memphis, all of that, but I'm sorry. I'm a Memphian and I'm. just not going. And I the people of. Memphis have to see something positive.

and they deserve to see something. positive and I'm going to fight for it. Look at Penny. >> Mhm. >> Penny is our everything in Memphis, you. know, to see Penny be so I in Memphis to. see him get out there. He's always out. there. >> for Memphians. He treats everybody the. same way. We want more of that in the. city in order to help the growth of the. city. I mean, I know y'all into making. money, this and that, but in that. particular comment, it was about hotels, right? >> So, that pissed me off. We're fighting.

for greater things in Memphis. And the. fact that you could even stand amongst. people and talk about a predominantly. black city that needs help, right? >> And your beat point is about a hotel cuz. you don't want to stay at the Hyatt. Well, they do have a rooftop view. You. you you could go and look at the you. know you could go and look outside if. you want to, but you only there less. than 24 hours. You shouldn't even be. commenting. You should just go back to. your hometown and pull some stuff from.

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has been at the forefront. LeBron is. taking a stand when a lot of athletes in. past unless you're Muhammad Ali or. Kareem Abdul Jabbar or Jim Brown didn't. take a stand when all these issues were. going on in 2016 with the Colin. Kaepernick and you had the uh the Freddy. Gray and you had the Eric Garners and. and Sandra Blands. LeBron was at the. forefront and see and everybody. applauded him then and and maybe he. misspoke. I I'm not sure he can like. what he liked but we were so quick. We're so quick to jump on ours. >> Yeah. when when and other and others can.

and and they're so forgiving, but we. just want to c oh I'm I'm done with I'm. done with LeBron. I I I kind of took it. as like look there's really cuz cuz. LeBron kind of likes I mean when he gets. there he probably wants to go out have a. meal or something. He doesn't feel. >> comfortable. >> comfortable going out having a because. he is LeBron as much as or you just like. no no. >> you can go anywhere and not feel. comfortable because he is LeBron. I. don't think the problem with LeBron, I. don't see people saying, you know, and. they'll write you off about anything.

Yeah, for sure. I'm not writing off. LeBron, we can agree to disagree. We can. do it publicly. If you speak on. something, then I can come back and say. how I feel publicly, but does that mean. that I don't support him and this this. this man, his black family, what he's. done for his son, all of that. That's. not what I'm saying. Okay. What I'm. saying is I wish he had set that one out. because anytime it come to Memphis, it. comes to me and I'm going, you know, I'm. going to be respond if I saw him today, I'm going to be like, been room for you.

You know what I'm saying? Thank you. You. know what I'm saying? What you have done. thus far for the black community, but I. feel like it's a little sensitive right. now, but we can agree to disagree. And. that's what I mean about that when it. comes to him. not taking away any of his. greatness in anything that he's done. But in this situation with a city that. is struggling so, you know, so hard, the. last thing I want for Memphis is to lose. something like that. What they've been. trying to do for years, the city can't.

take another hit. And I'm just defending. them not taking a hit and I think it's. needed there. >> So you feel some type of way if they did. move to Nashville? >> Absolutely. And I love Nashville, but. we're not take No, I love Nashville. Like I'm signed to the biggest country. label in Nashville. Okay. I just got. back from Nashville. What? Two days ago. I get it. Everything's there. No taxes. Everybody's leaving. You know. >> why they don't got no taxes in Memphis. It's in Tennessee. >> Well, it's so much going on. So much. land. >> Oh, really? There's so much going on in. in Nashville. And you can understand.

why. >> I didn't say that. I didn't say that. So. you can understand why they already have. teams. [laughter]. >> Okay. >> You you don't let me feel like that. It's a lot going on in Nashville. I get. it. People love Nashville. Nashville um. was voted. They had the top real estate. Nashville is just moving. It's so many. artists, big artists have left. California to come be in Nashville. I. get that. But I also know that the. people in Nashville don't want y'all to. keep coming until they see it. They.

don't want all of that. And I also know. that these are a couple hours apart. And. I do know that the Grizzlies mean so. much more to the city of Memphis, you. know, than another team in Nashville. You get what I'm saying? I love. Nashville. I'm not taking from Nashville. either. >> That accent, what what is it about? How. do you Cuz you would globe. [laughter]. >> Did you Did you Did you realize that you. had I mean obviously being in Memphis.

and people talk like this all the time. Did you realize your accent was so heavy. before you left and got out and started. talking to people and people like, "What. did you say?". >> No, it was bad. Like it was so bad. When. I went to college, I went to Florida&M. and when I went to college, everybody. would be like, "Talk, say this. [laughter] Can you say this?" And I. would be like, "What?" And it Yeah. I. realized when I got to college that I. had an accent. [laughter]. >> So So like music and Houston and and few.

few. So, what what words gave you a. problem? Because like you said, when. you're around people that that talk, you're like, I'm talking like because I. remember like when I and people like, man, boy, you country. I'm like, hell, I. sound like everybody else in the south. What do you mean I'm country? >> I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell a. difference from when I because I'm. around people that sound like me to my. ear. And then when I got around people. that wasn't from the South or wasn't. from the heavier colloquial dialect that. I had, I was like, "Okay, I can see what. you I can see what you're saying.". >> And it's worse though. It's worse when.

I'm like around. >> when you're around Memphis. >> and like just really but you know you do. your interviews you try to you know okay. let me clean it up let me make sure they. understand. >> what I'm saying because okay you being. from the south yes. >> what they think is our accent and being. from the south that's always a thing. they think we're dumb they think this. and that or. yes so once you start doing these. interviews and you get PR and then they. say well you know. Please don't lay heavy on your accent.

because one, they might not understand. what you're saying and two, you know, the stereotypes that come from that. And. I'm just at a point in my career now. where I'm super southern and. >> it is what it is. >> Um, it is what it is and I like being. southern. So, [laughter]. >> what's your favorite Memphis lane? >> Maine. [laughter]. >> So, are you saying man like I'm a man or. what you like? Maine. >> Maine. That was crazy. I like maine. Why. you do that? Like it's just like we all.

we say maine. We still say. >> everything is maine. Huh? >> Maine. Yeah. Uhhuh. That would be my. favorite one. >> You work with Gu. >> Push is from Memphis. >> Yes. >> Um allegedly the situation that went. down. >> Mhm. >> What are your thoughts? Because I got I. because I'm listening to everybody. Man, Gucci know what he was getting into. If. you're looking at Gucci from 20 years. ago, you're absolutely right. But Gucci. man became a businessman. And you have. to move differently. Jay-Z became a.

businessman. U Snoop Dogg became a. businessman. Uh F became a businessman. So as you become a businessman and you. do things, you pay taxes, you do things. legally. You can't operate with the same. street sense or or awareness that you do. now. >> When you become a businessman, you do. things of business. Yes. >> For people. >> This has happened for years in the music. industry. People will sign you up and. take away your whole livelihood, how you. take care of your family. Okay? >> They will do it. They've been doing it.

This is the first time we'll document a. time in history where someone said, "No, you're not going to take from me. You're. not about to take from me. I have to. survive, >> right?". >> You know, when people don't have food in. the streets, they're in the streets. robbing. They're in the streets this. When they don't have opportunities and. things like that, they're getting it. however they can to take care of their. families. Okay. >> Um, I don't know anything, you know, I. don't know what Pushki's thought process.

or any of that, you know, was, but when. he was in jail last time, I did check, you know, in on him. We were in. conversations um for a record um to come. out or my country album, I wanted to put. Push I, >> you know, country. I want to do. something. Um, once again, we come from. a city where we have to fight for. everything that we have. So to have that. much talent, Pushisty absolutely is a. storyteller. He is an amazing writer.

You know what I'm saying? And to watch. that type of talent and to have to fight. so long and be in the trenches and deal. and then you think you made it and. someone come and take your dream from. you. That's happened to me twice. I know. what it's like for somebody to sign you. up. Yeah. >> And not give you nothing. Not even I. don't need your hand out. I'm working. hard, but you won't even let the world. hear my music. Like you're sitting. around in your big house doing what you. do and I'm around here trying to take. care of my family. So violence is never.

the answer. I am going to say that. But. I also know where we're from. I also. know what that feels like. No, neither. party. >> Mhm. >> to me is right. Love Gucci. He always. cool. He gave me one of my first. features of my career. >> Um, >> but that young man, um, >> deserves a fair shot in order to to I. consider I consider rappers. >> writers, >> right?

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signed him to the same deal, is he. walking up in there and doing allegedly. what happened to Gucci? Is he doing. that? >> I'm banned from the Sony building. >> So, you can't ask me that. >> But I'm But. >> I ran up. Yeah, >> I ran up in the Sony building. Do you. understand? Me, Michael Jackson, and DMX. are the only ones banned from the the. Sony building right in New York. I ran. up. >> in a building. a little small. How you. run up in there? >> Cuz I did. I went right on in. I I told.

the. >> You came in the frost priestess. HE. LIKE, "HEY, HOW YOU DOING, MISS SUCH and. such?" Hey, such and such. >> No, I did. I actually told the lady at. the front desk that what I had just. experienced from it was way 106 in park. They didn't care. They submitted the. wrong video. Not ever. It was just that. type of thing. So, I ran up cuz I had. questions. >> Yes. So they let me in and then they. told me the police was on the way but I. got in the building and I ran up to go. and confront. Now I didn't I didn't go. in with no guns. Okay. No, nothing.

Let's say that. They'll be like K ran in. with guns. [laughter]. No, my mouth was lethal enough. But. [laughter]. you can't ask me in Universal Warner. would it have gone down the same way. because the subsidiaries are still. through them, >> right? So it's just like running up on. them, right? Like and either way, I feel. like he would have did what he had to do. to get his music out. And I just feel. like. >> So you you feel and he felt that that Gu. was not putting his music out or giving.

him the prop what he properly earned. through the contract that he had signed. >> It always happens. >> Oh, okay. >> And it's always his cycle, >> okay, >> of it was done to me, so. >> I'm going to do it to somebody else. >> I'm going to do it to somebody else. cuz. I'm going to keep going and and keep. keep it going. And some people we are at. a day and age now where we are going. through a lot in the world like. financially everybody is your favorite. actress, your favorite singer, everybody. is is you know clutching their coins. >> You know what I'm saying? For sure.

>> Yeah. Cuz we don't know what's about to. happen. >> We don't. So you go take you're you're. up here living good and. you're taking from the artists that are. trying, you know, to make them. regardless. A lot of times you just sign. a deal cuz you need some quick money and. you think you just made it out, >> right? >> And they they can say, "Read read.". Yeah, but when you hungry, >> I ain't got money for no lawyer to read. When you hungry, I need every dime I can. make. I'm not thinking about that. >> You know what? being in this business is.

that in any business, what I what I've. learned is that when you sign a. contract, you might sign a contract and. I don't think anybody thinks going in. like, "Oh, this guy's going to be he's. going to be the next this or she's going. to be the next that.". >> And all of a sudden, you might agree to. a number, but as soon as the money. starts to come and it's more than what. they thought, they try to find ways to. get more of it. Now, I'm not telling you. what somebody told me. I'm telling you. what I know firsthand. >> And I think that has a lot. Now, I don't. know if that's uh P Shashi's situation. I don't know if that was your situation. I don't know about I can just speak to.

me personally is that when a situation. happens it's like okay we agree to this. number this percent you get this I get. that now all the the money starts coming. in more than what we envision. >> now let me find out a way where I can. get more because. >> he he get way more than I thought he. should be get that's that's too much. money who what's too much. >> what's too much. >> they don't think anything of you they. take a shot they you know on you and And. when life happens as it's supposed to.

happen, you're supposed to be who you. are or Shy is supposed to be who he is. I'm supposed to be who I am. And then, you know, >> it's shown and then it's like, dang, I. signed a bad deal. This and that. Like, you you eating off of me and I'm barely. eating at all. >> Right. >> And I just think this changes the. trajectory of. >> what happens in the music business. because this is our first time getting. to see someone saying, "Oh, I'm not. laying down taking it.". >> Right. If that's what happened, we don't. have a clue. It probably didn't even.

happen. >> But this type of thing, okay, this is. our first time getting to see what we. think in our head we're seeing is. saying, "No, I'm taking my talent. I'm. taking I'm taking care of my family. I. don't care by any means necessary. I'm. going to eat.". >> Right? This is the first time you've. heard stories, oh, you know, Suge Knight. back in the day, Death Row doing stuff. like this. But we've never had the. federal government, the Department of. Justice has gotten involved and say this. is what happened. Like what? Damn. When.

y'all start worried about what's going. what? >> But that's what that's where we are now. What is it about Memphis? What what. what's with the beef? The the Memphis. rappers and beef. What What y'all got. going on up there? >> I don't want any parts of it. I love. them all. Um I really don't. Um I just. think it's it's the thing like there's. beef in Atlanta. There's all these, you. know, beefs, but we're so small, right? And I feel like the sound and people can. get mad at me and get me out, but the. sound that's going on in hip-hop is very. Memphis driven. If you listen to all the.

beats that are on the charts, everything. you have 36 Mafia samples and. everything. This city, all we have is. this music and this food and this life. So you put all of these people in this. small city, they representing this, that. this that this that my music better, and. they all clawing to get out. You know. what I'm saying? To get out and make it. So, I just feel like right now we're. very elevated and highlighted in the. wrong. >> wrong reason. >> in the wrong reasons. You know, we. instead of focusing on y'all talented,

like I be seeing like the new like the. new guys coming up, they might DM me and. be like, "Hey, you know, goat, would you. do this?" Like, I listen to these guys. music and females. >> and um they're really talented. like. they really are talented. If the right. person would give them a fair shot to go. out there, they're going to outwork. everybody because all we know is work. and trying. So, >> the city right now is getting a lot of. other things. But what they should say.

is that there's a whole lot of talent. and heart there. >> It used to be a time, K, that guys like. if you came from a if you came from a a. city and you made it out and you became. something, they looked out for you. They. they they they they made sure you were. straight. They wouldn't they wouldn't do. some of the things that we see some. that's happened to some of our rappers. when they go back home. And. >> home it I I should or I feel like if I. went back to Glennville, I should feel I.

should be that should be the safest. place in the world for Shannon Sharp. >> because you watch Shannon Sharp grow up. You know what Shannon Sharp did to get. out and you saw how I interacted with. everybody. I never thought I was better. And even when I made it out, I never. look down on anybody like I made it. I I. you didn't. >> What is it about when guys go back home. more times than not that is the place. that a lot of times they lose their. lives. >> Look, I like I'm going to fight always. for my city, but there was a famous.

line from 36 Mafia and we always say it. to each other as Memphians. I'm from the. city where they love to hate. >> You know what I'm saying? And I feel. like they're so proud. They're so proud. of you. They're not gonna let the rest. of the world talk about you. It's like. your family. Like your family can tap. you and be like and say anything about. you, but soon as someone outside the. family say something about you, it's a. problem. Um I feel like no one like you. can represent your city and deal, but. you still have people, think about it,

you still got people you went to high. school with. You still got people that. they haters. >> You know what I'm saying? When I go when. I go through Memphis, it is for shows. and different things. And you know when. I'm walking they LIKE K [screaming]. WE'RE SO PROUD OF you like keep. representing but I'm also. not you know. >> you're not naive to the fact that. >> I'm not naive to any of it. I know that. that love can turn to something tragic. immediately and my movement you know in. my city has to be what that is.

>> You're strategic. >> Yeah. Mhm. Like you'll never just just. see me walking around my city like and. that's me. So when we do speak up LeBron. and things like that, I'm like. regardless of where you go, you're. LeBron. Like you're one of the hugest to. ever, you know, have a ball in the hand. like Paul's like you you are. So you. couldn't go anywhere. So in my city, they've given me the key to the city, everything. You know what I'm saying? I. will do anything everything for my city.

But I'm also going to make sure that you. know. >> you don't have blinders on. You. understand what you're seeing. >> Mhm. You mentioned you went to uh you. went to FAMU on a low yodelling. scholarship. >> Yes. >> Hold on. [laughter]. >> I didn't even I have never ever heard I. thought that was something they did in. Switzerland. They go up in the mountains. and they yod You actually got a. scholarship. How do you get a. scholarship for yodelling? Who knew you. could yodel? >> Cuz I always go do something else. And. my boy teacher name was Bob Westbrook.

He's from Memphis. He trained Justin. Timberlake. um Britney Spears, a lot of. the Miss America. Okay. So, when my mama. took me in there to do voice lessons, he. said, "She got this big voice and no. offense cuz my mama's feisty." Like, no. offense, but I would like for her to. learn how to do something unexpected. They're going to expect her to sing. Whitney Houston. >> Yeah. >> So, can you know I teach her how to. yodel and so my mama was like, "Yodel? [laughter] What are you talking about, child? This child said she going to be a. superstar. You some yodelling, right?".

And I loved country music. Okay. >> The first tape I ever got was the Juds. >> Okay. >> And no one could understand why is this. girl like top of her lung singing this. country music. So the yolan, all of that. happened and who would have thought that. I would go through to a predominantly. black, you know, H.B.CU. >> And I had checks in 11th grade. I knew I. was going to fam you. Okay. Okay. >> And I went there and I just started to.

Yoda and I did opera and they was. looking at each other like what is going. on? And then they gave me a scholarship. and they hadn't done that before. >> Mhm. >> See, you could have went to Tennessee. State, which is Nashville, but she got. something against Nashville, BUT AIN'T. NO AIN'T NOTHING my business don't care. You know, I do think my parents took my. TSU application cuz it was $15. I. remember that the application was $15. >> and I was like, "Oh, I'mma go to TSU.". And I know my parents like, "Well, if.

you're gonna leave out of Tennessee, we. just want if you're going to leave. Memphis, we want you to go right. >> somewhere else." So, I still think to. this day that my father never dropped. off. Cuz I've never heard from TSU. >> At the start of every new year, I set my. goals. I tell myself, "This year, I'm. eating right. I'm working out. I'm. working hard. Staying on track." Then. reality hits. work, travel, cravings, distractions. Life just loves to test. your focus. I've been there. I've fallen. off, but I don't stay down because. Amazon helps bring me back up every.

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day with essentials from Amazon. >> You were Miss Freshman, you miss fam. You were you always popular? >> Yeah, [laughter]. I I was, but I was always the pop. I. wasn't like mean popular. Like I hang. with everybody, right? >> Like I go, you could be sitting there, I'm going just sit with you. Like I I. just would hang with everybody. >> What did were were girls jealous of you? Did you always have this this aesthetic. package? >> No, I don't think they were jealous cuz.

I wanted I always had this thing about. making people comfortable. >> Okay. >> Like and just letting them know we cool. all this and that. No, I didn't have. these teeth. I didn't have this breast. I didn't have these fillers. I didn't. have this ass. [laughter]. Like I just had personality. All I had. was just. >> and that's a lot. >> Yeah, >> that's a lot. Cuz we see people that. have all the the aesthetic things that. you mentioned, but have a ter terrible. personality. And we see someone that. doesn't have as much but they're very. personable. They're very charismatic and.

people just naturally gravitate towards. them. >> And I think that's what I'm going. through now. Um walking into this Real. Housewives world. I think that for so. many years I have made so much money and. I think the one year that I had. financial struggles was the year that I. got on this type of TV show. >> and I never cared about like cars or. bags or anything if I if I said oh I. just want that like I would go like and. do stuff but it never was like a thing.

So, I feel like getting on Housewives. right now, um, God got a sense of humor. [laughter]. >> He has a sense of humor and he said, "Okay, I'm going to show you that you. you you can get on TV, right, >> and be yourself, >> right? >> And you can get around a lot of people. with a lot of money, buying purses and. bags to to before they even talk.". >> But yeah, that wasn't. >> that. >> that's not what I'm here for. That's not. what God put me here. How do you feel. like being on an HB HBU prepared you for.

the real world? I went to an H.B.CU. There's nothing like it. I think. >> what school. >> I went to Savannah State. >> Okay. So, you went to Savannah State. >> I went to Savannah State. And I think I. and I tell people I said if you didn't. go to an H.B.CU, I think everybody that. even goes to a PWI. I think for one. semester that you should go to an H.B.CU. see you to see the pageantry, >> to see homecoming, to see the the Greek. shows and the soras and when they have. step shows and when they're in the park. or go to the student center during. homecoming and feel the buzz and feel. the electricity in the air or when they.

when they go over. >> Mhm. It's nothing like. >> Nothing like it. >> It's nothing like it. I'm happy my son. got to go to a H.B.CU. That was always a. thing for me and his father. And uh. there's there's not a better experience. for overall feeling for the college. experience to witness like all the food. that's connected homecoming. How. everyone's so proud when they come back. Yes. >> And they're so supportive of you being. in college. It's something that everyone.

should experience. >> They absolutely. Um what's your favorite. memory at FAM? >> Oh my god. My favorite I would say my. favorite FAMU memory would be the set on. Fridays. >> Okay. >> And I would make sure I had my best. Forever 21 outfit on [laughter] and I. was going to be ready at 12:00 to 1:00. to prance in front of everybody and walk. through the set on Fridays. That was my. thing. Hey, [laughter] I was going to. step out on Fridays.

>> You pledged Delta. >> Yes. >> Surprising. Um, your mom, your sisters. were. >> cuz I. >> Why you say surprising? >> Cuz you you look like a You know, >> you think I give you a K. >> You do. >> No, I don't. >> You do. >> I'm a Delta D. You better hang with me. I'M I'M A DELTA D. I'M down Delta. >> You look I I get it, but I'm just just. looking at you. I would I would I would. if if somebody's like, "What do you. think she is? She's a She's a Delta. She's an AKA. She's single gamma ro.".

>> You would say that? >> I would. >> You ain't looked at me enough. Yeah, I. looked at you. [laughter]. >> I am a Delta. My mom Delta sister Delta. >> So, what would have happened if you. would have went the opposite way? Say, you know what? I know everybody in the. family are black and red, but you know, your girl just got to be the. >> car like they wouldn't say deltas are. born. >> So, she said she was never worried. When. I got to FAMU, both organizations were. courting me. >> Okay. Okay. >> And she said she wasn't worried. She.

said, "Deltas are born." I wasn't. worried about any of that. >> Wow. >> You know, >> so your mom knew already knew what you. were going to be. >> Yeah. And my son though, we that was a. thing for us because he pledged alpha. and his, you know, father's a kappa. >> Okay. >> So, it was that. But, you know, >> his dad wanted to be a kappa, too. Huh. >> So bad. But we wanted him to go to FAMU. so bad. >> Where'd he go? >> North Carolina Central. >> Damn. He. >> He refused FAM. >> Yeah. He ain't want to be, you know,

he's like, you know, he wanted his own. identity. >> He don't want to do anything that I want. him to do. He wants to be his own man. He doesn't want to take from me. This. this young man gets out there and gets. to it. And he won't allow me to help. really with anything. >> I saw your probate video. You remember? >> You saw that? >> Don't worry about what I see. >> YOU SAW THAT? >> I mean, you know, I mean, for you know. >> Mhm. >> that stroll. I mean, you you had it got. me. >> I hate it. >> YOU YOU HATE IT. >> I HATE IT. >> OH, you did? You ain't hit that, man. You [laughter] Hey. Yeah. Yeah. You You.

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You came out there like a paladin. >> I was ready. >> That was a great day. Like to still. watch it. Crazy. >> And um. >> Do you feel a sense of accomplishment? Did you feel a sense of pride? >> Yeah. >> Cuz it it seemed like it. I mean, the. way you were strutting, I mean, I like. damn. It was that many people like FAM. view to have that many people and to. only have a line um and pick 40 people. you know out of thousands and you know. you're representing the campus.

organization. It was a proud moment. because that was something else I had. set a goal for for myself that I. accomplished. >> Wow. >> You mentioned your son um and. what you and his father wanted him to. do. He's kind of did kind of did the. opposite because he wants to establish. his own identity. He wants to be his own. man. >> But how proud of you of him that he. chose to go to an H.B.CU? >> Very proud. I am extremely proud. He. picked his own H.B.CU. He did his thing.

He graduated 3.8 GPA. He's in corporate. America and he's preparing to go to. Berkeley. >> Wow. >> For business. >> That's unbelievable. >> Yeah. >> But. >> K, you got you got pregnant in college. >> Yes. At any point in time did you think. about terminating this pregnancy? >> Oh, I had I had did too many of them. I. couldn't do it again. >> I don't care what people say. I'm going. to. >> Hold on. You had the clinic on speed. down? >> Yeah. It wasn't It was I don't know if. it was speed down, but I knew the. numbers. >> Yeah. >> Like that type of thing. I had gone.

through that. I love the father of my. child so much and I had gone through it. two other times. >> and um I just didn't want anybody to be. disappointed like family, all of that. So when I found out I won Miss. Florida&M, >> right, >> I was sick through campaigning. >> and I was like, "Oh no, this would not. happen. Not to me. I wouldn't win Miss. Florida&M University and be pregnant. Oh. no, no, no." And then Yes. Yes. Yes. So. um me and my mom, you know, she was a.

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you feel like you were being judged? Because you know sometimes, you know, at. that age, you know, 18, 19, 20, 21, kids. are really judgmental. Yeah. >> And obviously and and and if you're not. married and and and they see you walking. around campus and I'm trying to think, I. don't know if anybody. >> normally normally when when when when u. young ladies got pregnant in college, they would just drop out. They just. disappeared. We didn't see them anymore. And you like, "No, I'm going to school. I'm pregnant. Bye. I'm going to get this. I'm going to get this paper. I'm going. to have this child. And I'm I'm going to. do I'm going to do what I do." I'll.

never forget registration while I was. pregnant. My mom was like, "I'm going. with you." And I just remember us. getting out that car. And that's my. first scandal in life. I remember. getting out that car and everyone was. just like staring and I was going to to. register and but people would come up. and be like, "We love you.". >> All of that, >> right? >> So, I had so much love. Like, that's. what I'm saying at H.B.CU see you and. having that type of love and them. saying, "We respect your decision.".

People that I did know on campus would. walk up. So, I'll never forget, I don't. want to call it a walk of shame, but. I'll never forget the feeling of getting. out that car, being pregnant, and um. >> you know how how far along you were. Um. by then coming around I was completely. showing and I had given up my title like. that summer before to for Miss Bamu. I. said I'm pregnant and I'm giving up my. title of Miss Florida&M to my.

>> Wasn't it in the bylaws that you. couldn't be pregnant? They were great. Honestly, they didn't know. So why you. get a title? >> Because I wanted to focus on the child, >> okay, >> that I had and I wanted to graduate. because there was a part of me that. thought my life was over. like we're. being honest. I thought it was over for. me and I'm like, "No, I got to graduate. from college and I got to figure out how. I'm going to take care of this child.". And, you know, waving and being Miss. Famune while not knowing what it's like, you know, to be a mother is something. that I know my sority sister wanted it.

really bad and she was first runner up. and so I. >> Well, she' had to go and get it next. year cuz she wouldn't have got that one. [laughter]. >> She sure wouldn't. Uh, but your parent. your parents took on the responsibility. while you were in school to take care of. the child and raise the child. >> Well, it was my last year and they came. to pick him up and I disappeared. They. couldn't find me for 3 days because I. had the baby and I was hiding because I. didn't want I wanted the help but I. didn't want the help. I didn't want to. let go.

>> of that child for the rest of the year. And his father was like, "Oh, we'll do. it. We'll do it." But he was pledging. He was doing all of that. I was like, I. need this child to be stable. >> Mhm. >> Every point of stable. >> Yes. >> So when they came. >> cuz you had to go to class. You can't. take a baby to class. >> Boy, this is my last year. >> Yes. And he going to class. So who's. going to watch the baby while I'm in. class? >> Last year. And I don't want any randoms. I have great parents. >> And finally after those three days of. running, I remember handing my baby. I.

was like, he's not going to remember me. And it was the best decision at that. time because I just feel like I was able. to graduate and take care of him, >> right? >> Mhm. >> Was that you mentioned that so clearly. it was a very difficult decision. A. decision that you wrestle with because. I'm sure during those three days you're. thinking like. >> what happens if I want to get my baby. back? What if I say you know what in a. week or two no let me get him back. Are. they gonna be okay? It's your child.

We're the grandparents. If that's what. you want to do, we're more than we're. more than willing. We just want what's. best in the interest of our grandchild. and the best interest of our daughter. So, whatever you decide, K, we good with. it. >> Yeah. And they were great. Like my my. parents, >> I knew that they would never keep my. child, right, >> from me, >> right? >> And um I knew the the overall goal of. everyone was to graduate. >> so that you can provide for this child. And um it was it was the best thing. The.

child, you know, Brian, the father of my. child, he was mad. He was very mad when. >> the parents came and picked him up. because he's like, >> "I can do it, but no.". >> Do you like, "Boy, please.". >> I'm like, [laughter]. "Hey, we dealing with each other. You. done cheated on me while I was pregnant. and everything and now you want to." No, I'm going to graduate and I'm gonna take. care of this job. [laughter]. >> Any regrets the way you handled that. situation? >> No. Nope. The best thing I did was to. allow my parents to help me so that my.

child could live a normal a normal yes. stable yes life. >> Because you ask someone and it's always. the only regret if you had it to do all. over again. If you were placed in this. very situation you're at that age then. okay but you and now you are the age. right now 2026 and the same situation. would you do it the same way? >> Absolutely. I would have still had my child. I um I. would have still allowed my parents to. help me. I would have still graduated.

and I would have still been his mother. that will burn down the world about him. >> That's what's up. >> Mhm. >> You want more kids? >> Yes. >> Trying. >> um. >> practices. I mean, you know, >> I'm trying like I've done IVF with my. husband. We've done that. um he's, [snorts] you know, very open um. to I want a little girl. Now all of a. sudden he didn't came out with this he. want a boy thing. Okay. But we just need. to get it done. >> Right.

>> So I'm open to adoption. Another round. of IVF. Um is what's going on. So I. definitely I want a little girl. I want. me. >> Okay. But he wants a little boy. >> This just came [clears throat]. >> cuz at first he's like, "Okay, baby. You. want a girl? whatever you want. Whatever. you want. This just he has no kids, right? >> You know, he's helping raising my child. and and been around him and he has a. nephew, but he doesn't have any kids. And now it's this thing of I want a boy.

>> Yeah. [laughter]. >> But you tried a surrogate, right? >> Um I had a surrogate and it was it was. just a whole it it it was a whole. production. >> She was trying she she wanted to be. famous, huh? She wanted to be famous and. then she would call me at night and say. that she was like on Cleveland app and. people was knocking on the door and. saying it's Kell baby and you and then. she had a a whole significant. >> on Cleveland. >> Yeah. She said she was on Cleveland. That's what she told me. And she said. she. >> Why is she on Cleveland?

>> She was at the gas station and they was. knocking on the door and ask if my baby. was in her and then that. >> How they even knew that? >> Cuz of the show. >> Oh, cuz that's what she was loving. >> Yeah. Yeah, when I was on Love Hip Hop, they got to see that and then and then I. had my own show, right, >> when that was going on. And so I was. like, I'm not comfortable. Then she had. a man, but the man wasn't a husband, but. the man wanted a contract for her. carrying the baby. And you know, I met. her at IKEA.

Shannon, I met her at IKEA. >> Now, what' you expect to get, Kate? >> Well, I mean, IKEA has a nice variety of. things. I went in there, >> but I don't know if Sergey is on the. list. So, they IKEA selling. I I've been. to IKEA. [laughter] I didn't see the. section where they say. >> cuz she had triplets. Imagine walking. and y'all talking about babies and. everything. You walk in IKEA and you see. the most gorgeous triplets, like newborn. babies ever. So, I run up to these. babies and she's like, "Oh my god, are. you okay, Michelle?" I was like, "Yeah, but these babies right here.".

>> And so, we exchanged numbers. I started. to be the godmother to these babies and. helping her and everything. And you know, I just I still to this day. like her as a person. And I felt like I. was doing the right thing. This was. someone here. You know, I was helping. her with her, you know, babies and all. of that. And I was like, "Thank you, IKEA. I found this area in IKEA. >> Did it work?". >> Well, we saw, you know, I ended up not.

deciding to not place. >> Okay. >> You know, anything. >> Yeah. with it was a lot going on her. personal life and all of that. >> Still loved the kids. >> But why were you so open? Because a lot. of people don't don't don't feel like. sharing those experiences. Why were you. so open with sharing that for the world. to see? Now normally surrogacy is is. it's between the individuals and nobody. really knows and it happens and boom. baby's place with you and everybody. moves on happily ever after. The. transaction whatever the part whatever.

agreed upon term. >> is done. But you felt really comfortable. sharing with this with the world. Why. were you so comfortable? >> Cuz I get to go to sleep at night. I've. always told the worst of me before. anyone got to. >> Oh, you get to tell your story. >> I'm going to tell everything. I'm. myself. I'm going to tell it even if. it's good or bad, any opinion or. anything. No one will hold anything over. my head and telling, you know, if I make. the decision, I know that that decision. can get out. And I honestly have always.

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you feel like this is maybe some of the. complications because some of the. decisions that you've made? You. mentioned that you you've terminated a. couple of pregnancies. You mentioned. about some of the the cosmetic uh. procedures that you've undergone. Do you. feel that's why there's a complication. with you potentially being able to. conceive and and and carry your own. child? >> You know what's so funny is that um. going through all the surrogacy and. everything, my doctor has always. maintained your uterus is very strong. Um you can go and you can carry if you.

would like to carry. So I think that's. where the kind of argument with me and. my husband is is because when we you. know started to to try it wasn't that we. didn't naturally try to conceive and. gave it a chance. I never did. >> I wanted to design our babies. I wanted. that. I wanted two babies and I was. reading about all this stuff. So I was. determined that I was going to do this. IVF. No one said you got to do IVF girl.

Like you have to. We never even gave it. a real shot. Still to this day of. naturally trying to conceive and doing. all of that. It's always needed to be. planned. It's always he says I have a. problem in control. So this is another. control issue. So yes, I feel like. >> a designer baby K. >> Well, that's what it was called then. >> Yeah, >> it was called. >> You probably still call that now. >> Yeah, it was called like the doctor I. went to. He had done a lot of like. people and he was like, "Okay, I wanted.

girls. I I wanted two girls.". >> Okay. >> And you know, if you do that type of. thing, you can keep your kid from over I. think from 200 to 300 diseases, >> right? >> That you can they can see. >> Mhm. >> Like looking and you can say, "Oh, wow. Healthy.". >> So when I say designer, I mean health. >> Okay. Okay. >> And wanting my child health. >> Yeah. I thought you was going to like, okay, I want the kid to be like 5'9. I. want the kid to have this color. Huh? >> You saw, you know that they was they've.

been doing that whole thing. >> Yeah. >> And picking eye color. If you go to. Mexico, you can pick the eye color on. the baby. All of that. That's. >> They designing like they designing. Birkkins. I want a croc bag with this. kind of hardware. I want rose gold. I. want yellow gold. I want Damn. >> I've done enough surgery and designing. on myself. I would never do it to a. child. >> What? you know, >> in the process of doing that, as you. mentioned about what you've done to your. body, what have you learned? Because, uh, you got silicone shots in a hotel. room. >> Um, yeah, and and at my house, but this.

guy, >> what the hell? Okay, >> let me tell you something. You want me. to break this down to you? >> Please, dude. >> Okay. So, when it comes to the silicone. shots and all of that, I think people. think that that was like a super cheap. or something route I had just got was. just at the height like starting out my. career. Yes. >> I wanted to go to who? All the popular. >> women Beverly Hills. >> and they weren't going to s surgeons on. Rodeo nowhere really.

>> This is the person they were using the. biggest of people and I'll allow them to. tell their business. One thing that is a. common thread for me and some of the. biggest artists and actresses and. reality stars in the world is this one. man. >> Damn. >> It's this one man. So, it wasn't like, "Oh, let me get a $2 in the hotel room.". It was, "He's the best at this. particular thing." And that's what I did. cuz I thought I needed that. I knew my.

teeth look like I had been chewing. rocks. I knew that I needed some teeth. I knew that, you know what I'm saying? I. knew I always wanted boobs. I never My. mother them so curvy and, you know, I. didn't have to touch my butt. I was. always. >> That's And that's that's what I said. So. you aesthetically had this. >> I HAD THAT. >> YEAH. >> I wanted some more. AND I THOUGHT FOR. WHAT? >> Because I thought like the bigger it. was, the bigger the stardom. Like I. really there was no one there that was.

not a me to say to a girl, >> girl, leave that alone. Everyone that I. looked up to was using him. >> and was doing it. So there was nobody to. say, don't don't. >> But if there was if somebody would have. could have said, okay, babe, look at. yourself. Turn around. Look in the. mirror. You got to know. >> I still have did it. That's the honest bad truth, right? I. still have did it. So when I be talking. to these women and they going to do it. anyway, I be furious. I got people on my. team. >> Yeah. >> That I've said, why would you do that?

You just You see tubes coming at me. You. see this, >> you see all of this. Like why would you. do that? But they got to go through it. on their own. But at least there is. >> someone you can watch the streams from. when it happened. People magazine, best. bodies down to this is in my bloodstream. praying blood transfusions, everything. They telling my mom I'm not going to. make it about something stupid like. this. You have a documented source for. that. I didn't have that. So if they.

want to hopefully I'm scaring some. people straight, right? >> You know what I'm saying? >> Got them. But I mean, but like you're. like I got to go through this. I mean, shouldn't I be in a in a hospital room? Shouldn't I have, you know, uh or or was. it set up like did you have so you had. everything that they would have in a. hospital room you had in this hotel? >> I had what all the rich girls had when I. did my shots. My shots and stuff wasn't. before wasn't as a dancer wasn't this. and that. It was when I was getting.

money. Yeah. Like it wasn't. >> I just knew this is what all the girls. that y'all love and this look like and I. thought I was doing you know doing the. right thing. And I think I've caught a. lot of um. black for not giving up that guy. That. was a whole thing. I was like, I'm dying. and y'all trying to have me exposed the. guy. I just. >> Hell yeah. He going to die too. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> In jail. >> But you one thing I think that Memphis.

and that that kind of thing on me, if I. get myself into something, I'm going to. I'm just going to take on what? You know. what I'm. >> So you just going to eat that? Hey, that's on me. I'm going I ain't going. I'm not snitching. I'm not going to sue. I'm not doing none of that. I'm going to. deal with the consequences. of what I did. >> So what was being reported that you were. like gravely gravely ill? That was true. >> Oh yeah. Like I my mom I can you know. even see her face just from that all.

those blood I'm over um it was 13. surgeries like immediately. >> in a year. >> Yeah. And just even a couple months ago, which it really happened like um with. Housewife I um only a couple of months. ago I did the American Country Music. Honors. >> and literally um because I've had. silicone. They had to place implants. These implants, everything is running. out of my body. Like we don't want no.

implants. We don't want any of that. So. I'm still sick. There are certain things. I can't eat. Certain things I I can't. do. You'll never get silicone out of. your body once it's in your bloodstream. >> Did you know that beforehand? >> No. No. And then when I was injected, I. was told it was like hydrogel that. would, you know, >> dissipate. >> Yeah. I didn't know that. It was. basically when they opened me up, they. saw it was motor oil almost. And it was. >> Oh, Lord have mercy. >> Yeah. It was that. So, I'm thinking, oh, I'm just getting cute. We getting money.

We doing all of this and that. So, bad. decision. bad decision. I live with it. and I will talk to I'm telling you when. people walk up to me either they're. telling me about their heartbreak or. they're talking to me about their. surgeries and I'll be like when did I. take on the face to talk to people about. surgery but I was open and I want them. girls to go through. So I get to see a. lot of beautiful women. They're all in. my DM. I always have women in my DM that. say, "Can I talk to you? Can you help.

me? Can you you know that type of thing? >> How much money you think you spend on. surgery? 500,000. >> reconstruction. Yeah. Because each time. I have to go in, insurance doesn't. cover. >> No. >> No. What you've done to yourself, it. doesn't cover it. So, every time I go. in, it's never under $50,000. Like to go in, cut, do this, and then. I'm in Beverly Hills. I'm in the midst. of of doing all that. Nothing about this.

has been cheap, >> right? >> Um when surgeries that have gone right. for me, hardly any money. Like I've. always had the best boobs. Like no, that. I've always had that. Um I don't touch. my face. I got a nose job years ago. >> I get fillers and stuff, but I really. don't touch my face. >> So not a lot of money. >> I need y'all to help me understand. >> Come on. >> Why y'all feel y'all need to do this? >> You know what? I mean,

>> we like to put it on y'all. Okay. So, we. would like to put it on men. We would. like. >> MEN DON'T CARE. NOBODY NO DON'T CARE IF. Y'ALL GOT NO MEN DON'T REALLY LIKE NO. BBL like that. >> But now, okay, but you can't say y'all. didn't. Now, what's coming around now is. people don't even want big butts. They. don't want this and that. But we would. like to say, "Oh, we did this for men.". But see, I'mma tell you the truth. >> It's not always about men. This is about. wanting to feel on your own or how you. want to look. And I'm still not against. surgery, Shannon.

>> No. >> You better not get no more. >> I'm still not against surgery. >> You better not get anymore. You. >> tell me not to get no more. >> Yes. And I'm Hey, as a matter of fact, soon as we get done, I'm going call your. husband. >> No, you can't. We got to have I still I. have to have reconstruction. >> For what? >> For for reconstruction. I have scars. I. have wounds. Like things like that. And. not like, oh, I need. >> So So you you want to you want to get. cosmetic to like the the wounds, the. cuts, the stuff like that. But you're. not getting any more enhancements. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I I've learned.

>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Lo then. Okay. Okay. >> I've kind of learned that. >> Okay. >> Um, it is for all the reconstructions. and, you know, things like that. >> Yes. >> That I need. But as far as when people. say they want to have surgery, I am not. going to be the woman that says don't go. do what makes you happy for you. But. make sure. >> it's not something illegal. M. >> make sure you know your doctor. >> Make sure you don't cut any cost going.

out the country to try to do something. cheaply cuz you don't give a one life. >> Right. >> I'm that advocate. I'm advocate for. doing what you want to do with yourself, but make sure it's not about no man cuz. they going to leave you. Y'all leave. people all the time. >> Men nowadays is what the discussion. y'all. >> But but I think the thing is look, I I. can't speak to all men. But I I mean for. me, I've never been that's not a thing. I don't look at like, okay, I want her. with the cuz she got the BB. I mean, you. natur, you know, kind of like a an. athletic body, somebody that works out,

but I mean, sometimes that's they be too. much. >> Yeah, >> it'd be too much. >> So, what initially attracts you to a. woman? It's like a It's like her. personality. >> Nah, cuz I ain't heard her say anything. yet. I saw her from a distance to be. honest [laughter] WITH YOU. >> SEE? OKAY. BUT WHAT DID YOU JUST HELP? >> BUT YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING? >> YES. YES. like you saw her from a. distance. She could be the best wife, mother. She could be the best cakes and. be all that, but you wouldn't know that. up front. So, your initial thing is,

"Oh, let me see what she. >> But you know, men are visual. We are. visual creatures. Women like somebody. that personality and can talk and and. can and engage their mind." Guys like, "Okay, let me Damn. Okay, she nice. >> now." Visually, now I'm going to get an. opportunity to introduce myself. Hopefully, she's receptive and we can. have a conversation. We go out and we. talk like, "Okay, I can see myself, you. know, getting to know her further, you. know, dating and and moving forward like.

that." But I ain't looking at somebody. Oh, she got Oh, yeah. I got to have it. She got. >> Okay. So, but you did say visual. Yes. Your visual interpretation of what makes. you move is men all have different. interpretations of what makes them move. So for in culture at a time, what made. men move to even get to know who these. women were? Well, they were looking at. their visual. The visual at that time. that society was selling the visual of. slim waist, big ass, and you know this.

and that. >> THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN PREDOMINANT in our. community. The black women always had a. >> Yeah. Y'all went too much. >> It it it went it went it it went it went. far. Yes, >> it went far. But at the same time, you. just said. >> is what I'm trying to get at. >> What. >> the visual was the introduction. >> Yes. >> And so people want their introduction. >> and their visual to be what they.

perceive. >> or what the what the guy is looking for. or what makes them feel good. Okay? >> It might not even just be about the guy. I know that I look like societal norms. when it comes to beauty. >> Okay, >> that's what was going on in this time. Now you're seeing people get sick, people removing it. But guess what? Now. everything comes back around. >> Now we're back around to. >> you know, yeah, >> slim, fit, healthy, every. >> Yeah. See, that's what I've been looking.

what I see. That's what I saw from. Tennessee. Like everyone's drinking. juices and being but that's in trend. Yeah. That's right now. Yeah. So right. now you're going to see. >> you know smaller girls fitness but now. and now I can actually get happy. Girls. aren't going to get in injected. They. may do their dip like like hip. >> did your hip dip. What? Come on. >> I didn't know where THE HIP DIP WAS. >> I didn't either. >> Yeah. But they mine is dip and dipping. Not because they was naturally dipping. because of everything I've gone through.

Right. So I just get. >> But it's okay. >> But it is okay. But until you imagine. this, I am 43 and I am just to the. point. >> Uhhuh. >> Like. >> people love you, the world, everything. I'm just to the point and I've had to. almost die. I'm just to the point at 43 where I'll. get up and say, "It's all good. Y'all. going to get this." You know what I'm. saying? So it took you 40 you're at 43. years of age before you finally be.

before you finally accepted. cave Michelle for who and what she has. physically physically. Yes. >> Like mentally I probably should have. fall harder mentally but like mentally. and everything else. I was accepting of. that where I come from what I stand for. I'm going to always be attacked when you. have an opinion. >> But physically has been a fight. >> you know and even when you're not doing. that to yourself. Do you know what it's. like to wake up every morning and people. be like, "Oh, she got a new face today. >> She got a new No, really I don't. No,

really. Because I've given you and I've. tried to help women cuz no one was bold. enough. >> Yes. >> To tell you know how how celebrities be. like I didn't do anything. I was never. that girl. I said it a little bit. I was. like this don't even feel right with me. So to be the person who talks about. surgery and tell you don't do this, do. that. And then y'all use it against me. on a daily. It's like, should I have. even said anything? Cuz I can't even. post a picture without y'all thinking I. laid.

>> Yeah. I see. Glow. Glow is going through. that now. It's like she's changed her. face or she's maybe did something. >> She looks amazing. >> She looks amazing. She got she got in. the gym. It looked like she got in the. gym. I've had Glow on and she she's. amazing. She's she's very funloving. I. mean, >> she's a sweetheart. She is um she I I. would say that like when it comes to. Memphis, I think she really personifies. >> she personifies Memphis from even when. her when the song came out. I just. remember DMing her and she was like, "You like it?" And then it was like a.

>> that girl Leaf Glow Alone. This is a. this is a young woman. >> who is showing. >> a part of our city that we need to see. right now. If she want to get surgery, if she want to do her squats, whatever. she want to do, all I'm saying is be. healthy about your movements. >> The only thing I'll say is is that when. they get it and they damn near become. unrecognizable from what they were. before. And I'm like, come on now. Yeah,

I understand that as we age, things are. going to change, >> okay? And your body's going to change. And so the 18y old Shannon doesn't look. like 25 year old Shannon doesn't look. like 35 year old Shannon. He damn sure. >> Well, black men age, but. >> we we do we do. >> y'all look better the older y'all get. cuz y'all like be scrawny and stuff and. like. >> No, I'm saying but I'm sorry. Yeah, I. grew into older black men. >> Oh, how old? Ooh. Oh, >> yes.

>> 55. >> Yeah. >> 60. >> Yeah. >> Okay. those like the 50 and up. >> Not what I was thinking. >> The 50 and up. No, it's it's it's a it's. it's this it's the sexiness on a black. on on a black man from like that 50 to. thing. >> You know what I'm saying? But you know, I like me some white men, too. Especially with a man bun. >> A man. >> I like man buns. >> Oh, >> white men and man buns. >> Yeah. I I guess I be Hey, I just This is. what I got. I just got facial right now.

>> You're handsome. Okay. So what? Like. people love you and I think people love. you because you're a country guy. No, you're a country guy and you don't hide. from none of your [ __ ] You you kind of. you you kind of. >> you might be a milder. >> go ahead. >> version of of of me when it's like this. is who I am, but you still. do it very well in being you. >> Yes. Well, thank you very much. I. appreciate that. >> And I have some black women I think that. you should date.

I I've gotten two people married. >> You have? >> Yes. Uh. >> I got some great some great women. Nice. country guy. Cool. >> Chill. Whole lot of money. Whole lot of. money. You do got money. >> A little bit. >> You got money. >> You got success little bit. >> You got legacy. You I can't wait to send. my three contenders off. [laughter]. Baby, when I tell you, you going to be. like, "Oh, these are some good women.".

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daddy's a black history professor. >> Okay. >> I wouldn't know where you even bought. that bleach. I wouldn't know how to. bleach an [ __ ] I wouldn't know how. to do none of that. >> But they bleaching them things, too, huh? >> They bleaching [ __ ] They bleaching. everything. >> WHO CARE ABOUT THAT? >> YEAH, BUT to tell to say she's way. lighter. No. One, if you put on a filter, let me. teach all all the folk at home. If you. put on a filter from any of the places, by the time you click, I like that.

filter. You're going to go down two. shades lighter on a filter. >> But either way, I've always been this. complexion. I've never played with my. blackness. >> Okay. >> Like, and I think that's out of. everything, that's the most offensive, >> okay, >> of anything to tell me I'm bleaching my. skin. I'm a I'm a black woman like. through and through. So I be thinking. that's absurd. So I'm sitting up here. telling you that I done chopped my ass. off. I done injected the ass. I done. blew it back up. I done deflated it and.

got down on again. I done told you. everything. I done hiked my titties up. I done told you everything. And you. still. is going to come up. >> Think you lying about that? >> Yeah. Why would I lie about that? If I. wanted to be light, it ain't about me. being light. I'm already what I am. I am. who in color. I am who I am. Right. Lighting, hair, things changing. But. there's They want that so bad. It's like. they want that so bad. They want. >> me to not want to be black or not want.

to I don't know. Right. >> But I'm very black, >> right? >> I go so hard. Do you know what it's like. being Nashville. >> as a black girl? >> Oh, I can imagine. I'm the only black. girl on my label. I'm on the biggest. label in Nashville. It's me, Jelly Roll, Jason Aldine, Laney Wilson. We are the. biggest label. >> I'm the only black girl. >> Right. >> Do you know what them means be like for. me?

>> You know what they like? >> I do. I can imagine. >> I sit up there. I'm talking. I'm. understanding. I'm learning. And then my. own people attack me. I sat there and. fought for y'all ass all day. But you want to talk about a bleach and. I'm sitting up here black. IT'S ALL BLY. BLACK. WE ALL BLACK. We Yoda. We do. country music. We is black. And then you. go to your whole lie. I wouldn't know. what to do. I wouldn't know what to do. with myself. When you are trying to be.

healthy and live, I'm sorry. My. complexion is my complexion. Yeah. The. people all the bleach. She she should. swallow it because imagine having a. father that's a whole black history. professor, >> right? >> And his biggest goal is to graduate. [clears throat]. >> Africanameans in Memphis so they can go, you know, they can keep on going. >> He's way more famous than I imagine if. his daughter was sitting around. bleaching.

>> But she ain't happy to be black. >> Yeah. When I sleep with women, you know. the women I like? Chocolate women. >> Oh, what did that Oh, whoa. Polo. >> No, I'm talking about like. >> Oh, >> you say you sleep with what? >> Stop it, >> Shannon. What I'm saying is. >> Oh, you. >> my preference. If I'm going to change. myself, my preference of what when I. look at a woman be like, "Oh my god.". >> Oh, you said if you were to Okay. >> Well, no, but I do like I like chocolate.

women. Like that's. >> You like women? >> Oh my I've been only been singing about. it my whole life. Like. >> I know you like. >> Yeah. I don't do this stuff. Like I. always say I'm gay on holidays. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, I ain't know that. I didn't, >> Shannon. >> But I take your word for it. >> But you like, you know, >> I just I just I like women. I've always. have. I've always sang. If you listen to. all of my music, I've always talked. about it. It's not a cool thing.

>> Like, it's not that. I just, you know, I. like what I like. And if I have to pick. a woman, she is going to be Oh my god. Chocolate. Just. >> Did your partners know? Did any of your. partners know about you? >> My partners know everything about me. My. husband know everything. Do you know my. husband? I was the girl he couldn't get. in high school. Well, junior high on. that. >> So, you know him before? >> I've been know him. Oh, >> the closest ever. I I married my high school sweetheart.

>> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Mhm. Look at your face. [laughter]. >> He walked you down. He You rub, but you. can't hide. He just kept running. >> like prom. I stood him up from prom. >> You still. >> Yeah, I was the little wild one. >> Oh my goodness. >> But he's an amazing man and he knows he. knows my sexual preference. You know, we. don't have this. It'd be crazy people like, "Oh, I seen.

your man." Okay, I seen them, too. I. have a I think I have the best marriage. The best marriage in today's. >> society. >> society. Honestly, I think my marriage. is different, but it's the truth. >> Is is is that what's accepting? Is that. is that because Nikki Glazier, you know. the you know the comedian? Okay, Tim. >> She's Nikki Glazier is a comedian. She's. a very funny a very funny woman. Uh she. uh uh she's been at this thing for a.

while, but she really really burst on. the scene when they were a roasted Tom. Brady. I don't know if you saw that on. Netflix, but anyway, she said that, hey, she likes her husband, you know, getting. down and watching her husband do that. Just don't have an emotional connection. to them. Is that is that where we is. that where we are now? >> For someone I think for someone like me, everything has to be not in the norm. because that's just in my life. like um. he's known if someone knows you since. high school. >> Yeah.

>> And they've known your your your. fantasies, your your like your inner. thoughts, your dreams, your hopes, >> everything. Um when it come down to. things like cheating, my thing in. cheating is one, >> you shouldn't be paying anyone's bills. or paying a debt. >> Okay. Okay. >> Like I'm not with that. Um, cheating for me might be different for. for like other people, >> right? >> Because it's the fact no one should tell.

me something about you that I don't. already know. >> Oh, interesting. >> You've played with me now because no one. should be plotting, laughing, or doing. anything. You should tell me everything. that's going on. It's more about team. It's like you. >> Yeah. >> You playing football. >> Yes. >> So, you out there, you doing your thing. >> Yeah. Throw the ball. Give me the rock. I'm going to get the touchdown. >> It's like you going to get the touchdown. for somebody else. We ain't on the same. team. >> Oh, >> you going to run to play another way. And like I always say, even in. basketball, it's like shooting in. another person, you know.

>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Basket. >> Mhm. >> You going to let the hoes already want. to get one up on me. You going to let. them. >> You going to let them get one up on me. >> You got to poke for 3 minutes. You going. You going to You going to allow them. that. >> So if somebody came to you and told your. husband did something to them that he. didn't do to you, you going to feel some. type of way, huh? >> Sexually. >> Yeah. >> That's not possible. Oh, >> that's not possible. It's been that many. years. All type positions, legs up, choreography, all that. That's not. possible. If you're going to tell me my husband.

was out with you and he was he paid your. light bill, then we're going to we. probably have a problem. >> Hold on. You get what I'm saying? So, if. he pay a bill, that's what you going to. get? >> Pay a bill. >> So, you want him to just poke. >> poke and go? [laughter]. >> What type? What do you mean? What do you. mean? If if men going to be men and they. need the feeling, the feeling doesn't. include paying bills. >> If that's your feeling, then you're not. my man. You shouldn't be paying nobody's. bills, buying them no little ass purses.

I don't care about purses myself. Most likely, they're singing my songs in. the mirror and they're telling their. friends that they was humping on my. husband as they sang the songs. The last. thing that you was going to do. is sit up here and pay a fan bill. because I already do it. I already pay the fan bill. I've been. doing it for over six years. I get up. every week and pick a fan bill to pay. and I don't have to publicize it or.

nothing. We already paying fans bills. So you f to go and go sleep with a fan. and then give them something. Oh no. >> I ain't know that. I ain't know these. type of you know I I hear about it but I. ain't really never talked to somebody. that's like okay you know he do you not. watching though right. >> I I I I would if if that was offered to. me sometimes I do like. >> you hold on time out let me get a 20. second timeout I don't need a full. minute time I need a 20 second timeout.

to regof right quick you mean to tell me. you could watch your your man. >> I have several time. >> beat somebody. You like you GET UP ON THAT. >> Maybe it's weird, but I I kind of like. it. Like it's these things with me. [laughter]. >> Okay. Okay. That you I. >> No, I'm not. It's not like me being Oh, she's super freaky. No, >> you super freaky. >> He said no, it's not. He kind of He. always says with me this never It's. never about the things that people would.

think. Everything with you is about. control. Everything that you do. >> So you So you the producer. So you like. the director? You directing them or you. just. >> No, I just like to watch. I like to have. my cup and then. >> What kind of cup? You You Hey, you you s. like this? >> It's cute, but I would like one of. these. >> You want the glasses or or the the. Kanye? >> I would take both. >> Okay. >> You going to give me one? >> Yeah. Yeah. Both. Yeah. >> Yeah. But no one can ever say, "Oh, I. husband." You know what I would do? I. would be How is it? So, okay. So, when I.

posted I got married, I never tell. Me. and this man have gone through so much, right? that no one can judge our toxic. relationship or loving relationship this. and that. Uh but one thing I know that. man love me and he going to get down to. it by me. >> Same with me. So when you get past all. of these this woman did this, I ain't. got no time for that petty stuff. We got. to we we got. >> we got to get the money to get. >> We got stuff to do. I'm not dealing with.

that. I know that man love me. So when. it comes to sex, when I posted him on my. page, >> yeah, >> women come out the woodwork. >> Oh, I knew what I was doing. I was never. a dummy. >> So you wanted to come out? >> A dummy. >> Okay. >> He doesn't have any social media. Okay. >> I just started him a social media page. He doesn't have Facebook for real. anything. >> Yeah. >> All the women like, "That's great. THE. MAN DOESN'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA." NO, that's great for him if you think about.

it, >> right? He gets to live whatever life he. wants to live and I'm not posting him. >> Right. Is it. >> what. >> you think he could handle watching. somebody be with you intimately? >> I would hope. >> No. If I can watch him, I would hope. that he could do it. >> I don't know. Hell no. >> Why you say that? >> Why is that the country? I don't. >> Hey,

>> to each their own. To each their own. >> If I can watch you. >> We haven't come up against this. But we. come up against this. If I can watch. you, >> I'm Hercules. Hercu Lee. Her. >> OKAY. HERCULES. >> OH, NO. NO. NO. BUT AIN'T NOBODY. [laughter] A A AIN'T nobody ain't nobody. been to be Thanos in my old lady. >> Oh, I can watch. >> Can we talk about that and what's going. on? >> Yeah, we can talk ABOUT IT. YEAH. WHY IS. IT okay for women to allow you all to. have threesomes and go do things? But.

that's okay. But you can't allow the. same thing. >> I don't. >> why. Just say why. >> Okay. Here. I can't speak to I'm It's. me. >> Okay. >> I ain't a threesome type of guy. It's. >> a lot of choreography. >> Me. Hey, it's I'm I'm a one-on-one. player. >> Okay. >> Her and I. >> Okay. >> That's it. >> Okay. >> I I'mma be honest. me my ego couldn't. handle that. >> Okay. >> Me watching another man and that's my.

old lady. >> Is it because of who you are or is it. because of how you was? >> I've always been I was always been like. this. Even before I became Shannon Sharp. and everybody outside in the world knew. who I was. I was always play like that. >> Oh, I don't play like that. >> But do you think it's because I am. Shannon Sharp? I am accomplished. I am. that dude. Like do you think it's that. >> more than if you actually had to because. you who you are but imagine if you. weren't who you are. >> and someone say a woman is saying to you.

okay go do what you do I would like to. watch it. >> and what you you would be give her that. >> no no. >> really. >> no way never. >> have you ever been married. >> I have not been married. >> do you want to I do. >> So you wouldn't allow in your marriage. >> the things that people fight about. Imagine if you took the things that. people fight about when it comes to. marriage and made them a nonexistent.

issue. >> Okay. >> Then what? >> If cheating wasn't an issue. >> Yeah. >> If finances wasn't an issue. Yeah. >> But K, you got to realize when a guy. he's thinking about in his head, even. though he didn't see, he's thinking. about in his head because he knows what. this woman is capable of doing. And the. mere fact that he was think that he she. was doing that to somebody else, somebody else was trampolining. >> Okay. >> Because. >> think about this. You're talking about. something like say you meet a girl and.

within a year. >> Yeah. >> You don't even think about what she. done, but imagine growing. No, I'm. talking about what she just what she's. done with me in that year time that I've. met her. >> But what if the year wasn't a year? What. if it was 15? >> No, I couldn't do it. K. >> Imagine if it was 15, Janet. Imagine if. it was. It wasn't like we just started. dating 2 to 3 years. This is 15. I. watched this little girl become a woman. I've watched everything. She has. accepted me. She's watched me.

>> cheat on her. She's watch she's talked. to the women. Imagine going through like. life like for real life with a person. Not like meeting a person and spending. the rest of your life, >> but imagine actual life. >> I can't do it. K. And to the men that's. out there that can let their wives or. girlfriends or significant other, whatever the case may be, that can watch. them do that. More power to you. >> But she ain't going to really let me do. nothing. Like. >> you going to do. >> I haven't did it yet. I feel like I.

should deserve that. You don't think I. deserve that? >> Come on. I hate. >> They're gonna tear me up. Get mad. Let's. just talk now. Everybody's mad today. >> I hate to say deserve. Um. >> shouldn't I deserve if you do something. to me? >> Have you earned. >> Don't I deserve. to experience what you did to me. >> But you gave him a green. You gave him a. hall pass. >> Okay. So the hall pass should be. extended all throughout life. YOU DON'T. THINK THAT? >> WHOA. WHOA. WHAT YOU MEAN THROUGHOUT.

LIFE? >> Throughout life. >> So hold on. If I do something in 26, that means to tell me you think you. could do something IN 2030. NO. NO. NO. NO. >> If you going to change, tell me you. change. Tell me you woke up this morning. and you was a new man. >> I'm a new man. I ain't going to do it NO. MORE. [laughter]. >> ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU GOT TO tell me, right? >> Mhm. >> If if this is what we're playing, think. about it. Women. Okay. And me and my. husband. Women. Women. The women that we want to.

use men for money. >> Yeah. >> Let me tell you what. I get it both. ways. I like to be submissive and stuff. too. >> Yeah. >> But the women. >> Yeah. >> that use men. >> Yeah. >> for money. >> Uhhuh. >> they have to play by the money, >> right? >> If I don't have to play by the money, >> if I can still pay my bills. >> Yeah. >> Even with you not here, then life takes. on a whole different take. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. >> If I just love you, >> Right. And you don't have to pay a bill.

Love and a bill is it's two different. stresses. >> Okay. >> Okay. Yes. >> So imagine I just like you. >> Yeah. >> I just like you. >> Just like me. >> And you go and go do this. And it's not. about money because I'm going to pay pay. my own bill. >> You get to really see if you like a. person. >> Yes. >> You get to really see if you like a. person. >> And I just feel like these women. nowadays, they out here, they're getting. money. They're doing their thing. They. are living. And people get mad. People. [clears throat] say, "Oh, the modern day. women has destroyed the family,

>> right? >> This and that." Well, maybe just made. them a little bit more alert in the. things that they do, >> right? >> Like, okay, Shannon, yes. >> You got a lot of money. >> Okay. I do. Okay. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> You got a lot of money. So, what if you. met a woman? >> Yes. that also might not have the money you. have, but makes a lot of money and is. capable. >> Mhm. >> Would you You're going to treat her the.

same, right? >> Yeah. I treat women the same. I don't I. don't look at you I don't look at you. less than because you have you don't. have as as as much money as I I if I. like you, I like you and I treat you. accordingly. I don't say, "Well, this. person has a a master's degree or a. doctor's degree. I'm going to treat this. person better than I treat the person. that didn't have a masters or doctor. degree or this person have this. profession and I'm going to treat them. better than the prof person that doesn't. have that. That's not how I operate. I. treat if I like you, I like you and I. treat you accordingly.

>> Okay. And I think that that is. absolutely respectful. Um but. there's no nothing in you to say I'm. going to maybe act better with this one. because I understand that she's not. going to beg me because she doesn't need. me. She wants me, >> right? >> You don't think that that's a different. >> No, I be I'm oldfashioned because when. I'm in a relationship, I'm going to do. >> Okay, >> without you asking. All I ask is that. you be all I ask is that you be. appreciative and I just hate. ungratefulness.

>> Okay. >> So, if I do something for you, don't. make me seem like it's inconsequential. or it's small or somebody else. >> because I'm a man and I'm supposed to. >> That's just the way I am. I'm going to. we go out. I'm going to pay for the. bill. I'm going to, you know, if you. need something, hey, you need something. you need. Hey, even if you don't ask, you need anything. >> But do you think do you think that's. going on now on the dating scene? >> I I don't know. I don't I don't I can. just speak to me. I'm just saying how I. am because. >> I like that right now. It's like what. you bring to the table, what you do. So. I'm watching all of these women. Yeah.

>> Like talk to me. It's a thing of you. have successful women. >> Yeah. >> Who have went to like even if they ain't. went to college, they just hustlers. They have gotten it. They provided for. their kids and everything. But. they meet men. >> and. the men treat them as if they're just. with them for money. >> Oh, okay. >> Like you have real money. There are men. that have $2 and they value that that $2. and I value it because they worked hard.

for it, >> right? >> But the behavior of them I'm sorry. Is. it Can we just say what we not supposed. to say? >> Go ahead. I'm what you're not going to do. >> What? >> You're not going to get the same. privileges as a man with no vision and. no money. >> Okay. >> I'm not supposed to say that, right? >> No, you're supposed to say how you feel. So, in other words, if he has a vision, if let's just say for the sake of. argument, he does not have uh 15, 20, 30, whatever millions of dollars, but he.

does have a vision. >> You got. >> I do. Okay. and and he does have a. vision and he wants to do things and so. what are you what are you saying he's. not going to get the same privileges? What privileges isn't he going to get? >> You can't go be cheating and I got the. same money you got. >> Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. Yes. >> You get what I'm saying? Like you can't. like everything that it has to always be. let's say equally yolked. >> Yeah. >> Equally yolked means a lot of things now.

in society like right now. >> Yeah. So for me and my husband, when I. look at all the ladies and like. housewives, all the people, women. married, I honestly feel like I have the. best marriage ever. >> Okay, I see. I see what you're saying. >> But I have the best marriage. Why? I. have the best marriage. Why? Because he. knows my flaws. I know he is. I know if. a woman is coming to me like, >> oh, I slept with your old man last. night. >> What do you want? Like after after that. after you clean yourself off with the. towel, what are you doing next? >> Okay. like after you have slept with.

this man and he's had a sense of. enjoyment and whatever, what what like what Christmas dinners. are you doing? Are you going what what. are you bringing to our overall and and. and family? Is that wrong? >> Yeah, they don't they don't make them. like you no more. Okay. >> No, but they do. >> They do. >> I don't want I don't want a I don't want. a man everybody can get. >> Okay. You were a an exotic dancer.

>> Yes, I loved it. >> You did? What? Here in Atlanta? >> Yes. >> Where'd you work at? >> I worked at. and I worked at Flashers. >> So, I tried to buy the building. So, even when I had my own show, all of my. customers, I put them on TV. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Because I wasn't like I don't I. anyone. >> Why don't you go to Cheetahs? >> Huh? >> Cheetahs. >> Cheetahs. I love I just went. >> spring. I know what Cheetah is. Yeah, but Flashers was the one. >> on Roswell Road. They just demolished.

it. I tried to buy it before they. demolished it. >> I pulled all of my customers. I put them. on TV. >> Damn. >> And they came because everybody was. paying so I could be a singer. And I was a counselor. Imagine. graduating from Florida&M as Miss FAMU. >> Yeah. >> And then you start date a boxer, a huge. boxer, >> and then he leave you with $10,000 in a. Jaguar. Okay. He left you with. something. >> Come on. >> A damn. WHAT? DAMN. OKAY.

>> He left me with $10,000 in the Jaguar. An embarrassment, Shannon. >> But let me ask you a question. Sometimes. women get left with nothing. >> Well, I didn't. I took that $10,000 and. you know what I did? >> You flipped it. >> Yeah. I was like, I'mma be a stripper. My look immediate friends like a. stripper? Girl by you got a college. degree. You didn't got into three law. schools. You going to be a stripper. I. went right up there to Roswell Road and. I looked around. Do you know how many. college them girls didn't graduate from. college?

>> Yes. >> Do you know the girls that I dance with. are still my friends to this day? Do you. know my customers are still my friends. to this day? I literally walked in. there, saw girls on the floor, drugs, they had pimps. I would talk to. them. I would fill out college. applications. going to college and everything. That's. great. I get it. But the most impactful. thing of my whole life was me being a. stripper. And I don't care what how. nobody feel about that or say. I. remember Jazzy Fay came in and I was. dancing to country music on stage. I. used to dance to only the country music.

Rascal flags. >> Yeah. >> And I would dance and do I had overalls. on as a stripper. >> Damn. >> I had overalls, titties pushed up, and I. would do all of this as a stripper. >> How much money to get those overalls? >> I made a lot of money. Get the money off. but then hire another girl to perform. the acts was just two different things. >> Yeah. Like I never would give up my. body. And they'll tell you I was more of. a counselor in a strip club sitting. there how they hated their wife. All men.

hate their wife. >> You don't think that's bad? >> I. I mean I think some men have have pretty. good marriages and they love their wives. and then some I think sometimes they. tell you that to try to get try to get. with you like oh he hate his wife. >> That wasn't happening. by the time y'all. paying me for counseling sessions and. the private VIP and you're saying how. your wife's sister you hate her. >> and all of that and y'all paying me for. that. So imagine being on stage dancing. to God Bless the Broken Road.

and singing that song. >> and singing country music and imagine. Jazzy Fay walking in and then you run. off stage and then you end up getting. like a record deal. So, >> so you made good money. >> I made amazing money, but that was at a. time when people actually had money. Like, >> yeah, >> I made amazing money as a stripper with. a college degree. >> You put Miss You was a stripper. >> You put that money away. You made you. made some good decision. >> Absolutely not. I didn't put anything. away. I asked the lady, took that money. and one day I made a lot of money and I.

said, "I'm never coming back." And I got. a record deal. >> God, I didn't have any leads. I mean you. think about it there have been a lot of. like Cardi B dancer Cash Doll Eve Lady. Gaga Trina yourself I mean what what. what is it about I mean do you feel if. that is. >> all the girls I love. >> is that a prerequisite that to be a. rapper you got to start off in. >> No like all the girls I love like even. um even Cardi like I would watch Cardi. before she got on 11 and that's why we. are close I would watch her and I would.

say. >> oh she's a star she would sing all my. songs like while she was dancing. >> Yeah. >> Like sing all these songs and when they. said Cardi B going to be on Love and H. said, she's out of here. That's a star. >> And she's always been respectful, everything. So think about this. The. girls that women deal with, those girls. are just who they are. They got to take. care of their family, do the things. You. could talk about strippers all you want. We could do whatever. But I was a.

stripper. A lot of the girls I respect. in this business. >> They were strippers. And like my first. time, like my mentor was R. Kelly. >> Yeah. >> And my first time meeting him, he said, "Are you a stripper?". >> I was like, "No, no." He was like, "Well, you came in here like, "Give me. my money.". >> Like strippers, I think we're able to talk to men. I. think. it's a thing of we got to take care of. our family. Yeah. But we get to see a.

different thing. Like imagine going from. being Miss Florida University. >> to having a rich man and getting run off. the road. by women and to him saying, "I'm going. to leave you, but I'm going to leave you. with $10,000 and a Jaguar. >> and to saying I'm not going home to. Memphis. I'm going to take this money. and do a demo and I'm going to dance to. this country music.". M you ever get any fights?

>> No. Everyone was my friend. Like I never. got into fights in the strip club and I. would always go back. Like even when I. had a number one song on the charts, I. still went back to my strip club and I. never played that. >> Wow. Mate, was Mace the first person to. discover you? >> What was I mean. what's that face for? Mace did like that is in we're giving my.

age. Mace was in MySpace time and you. know he had the top friends on my face. >> somebody from Memphis. That's why I'm so. for my city that I never I didn't know. anything about him. He had me in his top. five. >> and Mace said who is that girl? >> She's a star. >> Okay. >> And he hit me and said Mace is looking. for you. I was at FedEx. Federal Express. in Memphis is the ultimate of jobs. >> Oh, you working at FedEx? Okay. Yeah, >> that's the headquarters. >> Yeah, I was there. My mom was a huge.

manager there. She had been there for. years. Graduated, of course. I get a job. there and I'm on the work computer. and my space is popping. And then. someone tries to give me a record deal. and then it's Mace. And we didn't know. it was Mason until we got him on the. phone and he was talking that slow. and we realized that's he was talking so. slow it was actually Mace. >> It's him. >> Yeah. So he moved me here and that's. what it was. And I have a lot of respect.

for him. But um. >> y'all didn't have a relationship though, right? >> No. Okay. >> No, I didn't want to sleep with the. pastor. Oh, >> okay. Wise decision. Antonio Tarver. >> I blame him for everything. >> Was that the boxer you with? They left. you with the 10. >> You me and Antonio was a whole. situation. >> No, I'm just saying. Was that the boxer? >> Yeah. I saw him in Memphis. >> Yeah.

>> At a club in Memphis and he was trying. to talk to me and I said, "I don't want. to talk to you. I want a record deal.". >> So he's like, "Okay.". >> He was like, "No." He said, "I can't do. nothing about that." I said, "No, you. can't. You can call people to know. people." And I started to date him and. he was making calls and then he put his. money where his mouth was. It was like. I'm going to fund her career. The girl. is talented. And then he got married on. me at All-Star Week. >> Hold on. How How he dating? You're.

dating him. >> Mhm. >> He's making calls to help get you put. on. >> Yeah. >> And then NBA Allstar. What? Allstar. week? >> NBA Allstar week. My friends called me. cuz you know you want to be popping in. Memphis. My friends called me. They was. like, "Girl, can you ask your dude to. get us rooms at the Allstar whatever.". So I tell him, he was like, "You don't. need to go cuz you got a meeting. >> You got the biggest meeting of your. career.". >> Yeah. Okay. See, I like that. Keep you. focused. That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm talking about. Magic. man. >> The the biggest your career. So I'm in. his house. We were around here moving. around and I'm like, I'm going to ask. him about Allstar weekend for my friends. because I want to show out. It's my. friends. >> And he say, you can't go cuz you have to. sing. >> Yeah. >> So I said, yeah, I got to sing. Can't go. to Allstar Girls. >> It's an article come out that say he got. married. So then my mom calls me and. say, >> "Are you in that man house, girl?".

>> Yeah, I'm in his house. >> Hello. He left. He went and got married. >> He say I can't go. He said to Denise, her little scandalous ass, he says that. I can't go to Allstar week. and he says that I cuz I'm a singer and. I have to focus on singing. So imagine. this. I say he's going on Allstar week. >> So imagine getting a text saying I will. love you forever. Okay. My mom says. where is he? Where are you? She's my.

mom. Real Christian straight across. >> Well, I'm at his house. everything. So, only thing I'm preparing for is the. biggest meeting that I've ever had in my. career with Kevin Black at Warner. Brothers. This is so big for me. >> Okay. >> And I'm going to go sing my song, >> right? >> The girl called me and cancelled my. meet. >> He was married, but I didn't completely. have it come in, but I'm in his house. >> Mhm. >> So, she's like, I'm on my way. I'm like,

I don't care about anything. an allstar. I'm going to sing. I'm going to be a. star. >> Hold on. You say the girl canceled the. meeting. Was that his the girl that he. got married to or somebody from the. >> somebody else? So, listen. So, when I. say I'm leaving, I'm going to go do. this. I'm getting a record deal. I don't. care what this man did. It's a man. I'm. a singer. >> Mhm. >> I'm at his house. I'm going to fly out. So, when my manager calls me and says, "Your.

meeting has been cancelled for your. record deal." And I say, "No way. No. way." I said, "Put me on the phone with. her else you fired with Kevin Black's. secretary.". Get on the phone with the secretary. She. didn't just had an abortion. She didn't just had an abortion couple. days prior. And he didn't went and got married at. the Allstar weekend. I said, "He ain't married me. I'm still. being tough. I'm still being Memphis. He.

ain't married me. >> So why can't I have my meeting for my. record deal? >> Cuz I want to sing. She like, you know, you what? You right. I ain't going to. cancel it. So I'm thinking, you told me. Kevin Black thought that I was like Mary. J. Blah. He thought that I was. everything. So imagine banking your whole life on. getting on this plane to present your. music for the first time. >> Mhm. So she said, "Come on, you still. this man still avoiding you. Text.

message you. He's still avoiding you. He. won't say nothing, but you in his. house." So imagine flying to a place cuz. you just want to sing. You just want to. sing. >> You go get ready to sing. I remember. what it looked like in LA. We're pulling. up to Warner Brothers. Betted on Black. Kevin Black, huge executive. I walk in. I hadn't even seen my man. since he left for Allstar week. But he. lightly answering me. I don't give a.

[ __ ] I'm going to go sing these songs, man. I'm going to be a star. I walk in. Guess what Kevin Black say to me? >> What? >> You look like Kee Cole. I said, "What you say?" He said, "Oh.". He said, "Why she here?" Oh, she look. like Kitchen Co. I'm like, I know that this man supposed to get. married, so I ain't gonna have nowhere. to live. or nothing.

>> Walking to the meeting, the secretary. who set up the meeting had his name, Antonio tattooed on him, on her. I look. at her tattoo. >> cuz I see see you had I I'm sure I'm. sure I'm not the only one because when. you said the secretary had just had an. abortion. I'm trying to figure out well. how did the secretary have an abortion. have to do anything with this story. She. had just had an abortion from Antonio. >> She didn't set him up a meeting and he. telling me cuz cuz I'm a star. I got a. meeting cuz I'm a star but you got a.

meeting cuz you [ __ ] girl. That's the. secretary or the executive. I fly. I don't even know. They say you. got married. My mama like you got to. pay. >> But not to the secretary. >> Yeah, but she cancing my meetings. I. call. >> So that's who we got MARRIED TO THE. SECRETARY. >> NO, another girl. >> So. >> So I tell her, "Keep my meeting on. I. ain't he ain't marrying me.". >> So yeah, WHY YOU GOT BEEF WITH ME? YEAH. I AIN'T GOT. >> AND I'M STILL thinking that Kevin Black. want me here. >> Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> So I'm like, "Fuck, man. I'm going to be.

a star. I don't care. I'm going." So I'm. flying to I ain't talked to the man I. talk to every day. My man I ain't talked. to him every day. >> but it's been like we about three days. So they say you got married but you. ain't said nothing to me. Keep avoiding. me cuz we supposed to go on a trip when. we leave. It's me. We supposed to fly. out. >> Okay. >> So we go to this thing. The man said, "Oh, you look like Kesha.".

>> And I said, "Oh, okay." Cuz I love Kha. >> Yeah. I know the sim, you know the. similarities of what we sing about, heartbreak, this and that. Still a whole. respect for I don't care. >> So I go in, we sitting at a table. Say. this the whole table. >> Okay. >> Kevin Black, he sits down as I sit down. He's like, "So what we here for?". Donald Woodard, I think he's sitt here, one of the biggest lawyers in Atlanta. He had Jeez, he had everybody.

You told Antonio Tava, you told Don Don. Woodard to fly. to do this record deal with me. So I got. a lawyer here. Everything. We think we. just ready to sign a deal. The executive. sit down and say why I'm here. >> He had no idea why he was there. >> He thought I was Kico. He had no idea. He said she look like he didn't know. nothing. So I'm thinking I'm here to. sign a deal when here. He didn't know. why I was here. I hadn't seen. I look.

across. I see Antonio. I'm third and I'm. looking across. >> So Antonio's there now. >> Yeah. He coming to the meeting. This my. first time Tim left home. And we all sitting around the table and. I had a song called What You may not. know. Is that your boyfriend? He's a. hoe. It's going to shock. You won't. believe. So the secretary like, "Yes, he's a. hoe." I'm sitting like I'm being punk. Seriously, [clears throat and laughter].

there's no way this is my real life. And. I saw her tattoo and. >> she got an Antonio Tarver tattoo on her. >> You had one, too? >> No. I ain't never put no man on my body. So, we get in the car. He get a driver. We get in a car. Guess what he do? We. going to talk about this at at dinner. Dinner. That's when you when you ain't. got no money. That's how men do you with. money. When you ain't got n, you always. have it with them. We go to It wasn't It's not even.

Cheesecake Factory. It's like GL Grand. Looks, you know, the Grand Yeah, I know. Yep. Yep. Yep. >> So, we sitting up there and the wife. walking in. >> into the dinner and he tell I said I. thought he said he he he told me he. going to tell me on our trip. He going to tell me he got married on. our trip. Are you kidding me? All the [ __ ] I've. been through, you gonna tell me. So she. come, I'm just stabbing the table.

with the knife. Like, man, that girl. don't even love you. This girl, you know. what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> I'm. I'm just hitting the table with the. knife. And I said, "You wasn't going to tell me. nothing." Before right before she walked. in, he said he's going to tell me on our. vacation. He going to tell me he got. married on our vacation. Cuz what right. do I have to speak up? Cuz I ain't got. no money. So that's when I tell women get your. money. What right did I have?

>> I'm You should have a right as a woman. >> Yes. >> But not in this day and age. You got to have the same money as a man. >> So when the wife when the wife walk in, what did she say to you? >> Oh, she sat down. Denise, she was all. cute. She was cute. And she didn't I. don't even think she knew what was going. on. >> Yeah. She's like, "Who is this? Who is. this?" Uh. >> I don't think she understood. I never. had a problem with her. So I started saying just yelling out. [ __ ].

>> You can't be loud in the restaurant. though. >> I don't care. I'm yelling out [ __ ] like, "Girl, this man this and that." So then. he sent me on my way. and I didn't have nothing. So everybody. want stuff from people that's not in. your name. I had a Jaguar and $10,000. Yeah, that's a good send off. But. imagine that type of embarrassment. [ __ ]. out of here, you know. >> Damn. >> So, I went through that. That's why I I.

see life differently. >> Did you have any idea that he was seeing. you and other women or there were other. women? >> I I knew he was seeing women like cuz he. was, you know, you start seeing athletes. and things like that. I knew we seeing. women, but imagine being in Memphis and. just being in the club and someone. trying to talk to you and you're like, I. don't want to talk to you. I want to be. famous. >> And this was before any of the men I've. dated. This was like the start.

>> Yeah. He's the first one. >> of seeing the [ __ ]. >> that [clears throat]. rich men do. >> Rich man ain't the only one. >> rich men do. >> Rich men do. And I said, "Never, ever, ever in my life. would I allow one of y'all rich men?". >> Don't be lumping us all in there. Some. of us good. >> Are you good, Shannon? >> I can't believe that. >> You can't believe what?

>> Nothing. I'm I'm going to have to have him on. here and get his side of the story. >> You can get his side cuz all he going to. do is yap like in boxing and I see him. screenshotting my Snapchats. He's the. only one screenshots my Why are you. screenshotting my. >> Maybe he still love you? Maybe he still. got something for you. >> It will never I hate the way he eat. food. >> What you mean to hate him? Damn. >> His tongue be out his mouth and he be I. hate it. I hate that eat the [ __ ]. food. Like I hate it. >> Damn. Okay.

>> But that is the thing that if you don't. have no money, you got to deal with. eating with food falling out their. mouth. >> Oh lord. I hate it. It's a thing for me. >> So, I thank him. >> Tara, my boy. >> He's a cool I I can say this, Tarber. You got evil people. I don't Tarber is. not an evil person. >> He was just being a man and he never. thought enough of me. He never thought. enough of me. He thought she can sing. Let me get in on that. Oh, she love me.

She's stupid. He never thought that I would be who I. am. Man, you sexy. I mean, he looking at you. like. >> care about sexy. Sexy don't do nothing. in this business. Are you kidding me? >> I mean, he was trying to do he was. trying to do something else though while. in the process of killing. >> He wasn't. >> He was only trying to hump on me. >> That's what I TRIED TO SAY. >> OH, OKAY. I'M LIKE trying to hump. >> He was trying to get a little friendly. hunching in. >> Yeah. He never thought that he would. have to experience and his life would be. there and he would be Snapchatting. He.

never he. >> is he still married to that lady? No, she took everything. She took all of his. money and then she opened up beauty. supply stores. Do you know I could have. opened you up to beauty supply stores by. opening up all your money? Like she open. >> she took she took it. >> She took like she didn't love him. Like. I actually had your back. She took everything. >> You work with you work with R. Kelly. >> Yeah. >> Is R. Kelly still look and and I've had.

this conversation with. >> I'm in so much trouble this week. No, but the thing is I believe you can. admire someone's craft while saying what. he did was wrong. >> Yeah. And that's why I stand Robert. Kelly fought in the industry at a time. where he didn't, you know, cuz he was. still robbed. >> Mhm. >> Man, that man taught me so much. I. understand that a 3 minutes and 30. seconds is how you make a movie. >> Yeah. >> I understand the value of music. the the.

value of everything. The fact that to. experience that type of. life and support, the fact that you know. Rob would be scared to fly. He wouldn't. fly nowhere. >> Like to have to talk to a legend and. say, "Okay, you got to go here. You got. to go meet these Mandelas.". >> Uhhuh. Oh, we gonna get into the Mandela. situ like really really Mandela.

and. to watch Rob not he not be able to read. He cannot read. >> Damn. >> Let's just stop this. Like I am a. feminist and I'm for women, but I'm also. regardless of how no one has hurt me. more than a black man, >> right? >> You know. >> Yes. But no one gives me the passion. more than black women and men. >> Um,

for Robert Kelly to go in there to do a. record deal and for Robert Kelly, you. came in for him to sign you, then. someone else signed you, and then when. you're going through abuse, for someone. who is considered an abuser in the world. to say, "Y'all not going to abuse that. girl." Like I watched him call that. record label and say, "Y'all want her to. be Mary J. Blast so bad." But the truth. is this girl got a ass like this, act. like this, and she's a country singer.

>> Can we This is the gimmick. This is what. we need to do for the gimmick. and to. sit in writing sessions just me and him. and he kept he kept keep saying. every minute counts and but you got 3. minutes 30 seconds like to be taught in. that type of way. >> um I do not condone I do not play in. anything that Rob allegedly has had. going on but what I can say I've. witnessed the people around.

>> I've witnessed those people that's not. an excuse for his behavior but I also. have witnessed in the ena the the. enablers who don't help them read. uh feed them things and don't you know. do that I'm not taking up for anybody. >> right. >> I just know when it comes to Robert. Sylvester Kelly when it came to a a. musical. >> right. >> understanding this girl's a bit mental. to y'all I'm watching. she's amazing.

no that's from him right. >> like um our songs together, our things. like that. Um I'm not here to defend R. Kelly, but I am here to say. there's always different sides of. people, right? >> That's all I'm here to say. I'm not. saying that his wrong is not wrong, but. I am saying that if you're going to if. he was white, y'all would be talking. about the good and bad of him. >> Mhm. >> You get what I'm saying? That's all I'm. saying. I don't have a heaven and hell,

>> right, >> to put nobody at when it comes to my. career. in writing. He was very influential and he did take. me out of an abusive, >> right? >> He took me out of an abusive. relationship. So, I never saw him as. abusive. >> Chris Brown and Usher are going on tour. together. >> That's amazing. >> I never thought I'd see this happen. [snorts]. >> Mhm. >> Um, it's going to be crazy. >> I think it's crazy. Like, um, I had. reached out to Chris Brown. Say it's a. random Wednesday night and I needed a.

record. By the time I woke up, it's the. Chris Brown and K Michelle. Either way, he had already given me my verse and. said that he um respected who I was. So, I hit him. Say it was a Wednesday. I I. got to his management. I really need. this record. And then by the time I woke. up on that Thursday, >> you had it. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Wow. >> Mhm. >> You said R. Kelly would turn your. arguments into songs. >> Yeah.

the the um though I love you and I care. cuz cuz I really liked him. I think. I did. I I really. >> You had a relationship. >> Yeah. Like I really liked him. I would. protect him everything. Um so I remember. one day sitting with him and saying. though I love you and I care about you. but you keep hurting me. I just can't do. this. And then that man sang in my face. [laughter]. No, it's funny. But the only way you.

>> Are you serious? >> You're telling him. You're telling this. man about the pain that he's causing. you. >> He sang in my face immediately. >> And what did you say? >> I said, "Though I love you." He said, "So say it again." And I said, "You I. love you." He said, "Though I love you. and I care about you, but you keep. hurting me and I keep forgiving you.". And he got to be Jess can he do this? I. was so angry, but it was a genius record. and it was writing life. He always says.

write life and not music. >> You said something very interesting. You. said that you've seen mothers give their. daughters to R. Kelly. >> I said that people should be in jail. >> Yeah. Yes. >> That's what I said. >> Hitmaker said the same thing. I had. Hitmaker on and he said women would. bring mothers would bring their. daughters. >> It was disgusting. He wouldn't even be on that. And to watch women say, "Look at my. daughter. She's a star." Pushing up.

their titties and doing that. My mama. never did that with You get what I'm. saying? Like that's not an excuse, right? We all have to behave the right. way, treat people of their age and. everything. But to sit up there and. thank God for your mama to witness to. witness mama's being around like my. daughter is a star. Look, and y'all. y'all pushing up your daughter's breast, this and that. It's no excuse for nobody.

behavior. Everybody got the answer to. the things that they do, >> right? Which is why I still feel like. those families. >> I couldn't go to the gas station without. my parents looking for me, >> right? >> You get what I'm saying? LIKE I COULDN'T. DRIVE UP THE STREET. >> So I just don't think it's right. I'm. sorry. I don't and I think everyone. should be held accountable. Robert. included. Everybody should be held. accountable. >> You speak about you spoken about being. in abusive relationships. Yeah. Why hard.

is it? Why, you know, it's it's always. because you know, you hear people talk. about you and say, "Well, why didn't you. just leave?" K, how is it? What how or. why, excuse me, not how why is it so. hard for you to leave to leave those. relationship? >> Have you ever loved somebody? >> I have. >> Have you ever really like. unconditionally loved somebody? >> Yes. Yes. >> So, I would like to understand our. unconditional uplove. >> Mhm. >> Is our unconditional. Okay. So a combined unconditional with.

money and then things like that. Um. I love the person that I went through. abuse from everyone about. Um I really. loved him. I really wanted him to do I. really wanted him to be. >> I really wanted him to be the next big. >> right. >> I wanted him to be Diddy. I wanted him. to be the next cuz not diddy now. I. didn't know I but I wanted him to be the. next. >> everything. So I took a lot of things in.

his life and I took them as his reason. and not his why. >> So I. >> because a lot of times you're like this. money thing you you you But let me ask. you this. >> You see I keep going back to it. >> Yeah. But what about if somebody didn't. have money or didn't have that. astricalomical. amount of money? Could you still be with. that person? Could you still love that. person unconditionally? Money aside, >> I could. like my relationship with my husband is.

not about money. >> Yeah. >> It's about that he allows me to be me. even in my wrongs and say I'm wrong, but. he doesn't judge. >> Okay. that. So when it comes to like um. my abuser or you know or rob. >> I just want the I'm sorry like I be want. the best for the people I love even if. it you know. >> even if it's not with me. >> Yeah. >> You spoke about having a relationship. with Idris Ela.

>> Oh yeah. >> Do people believe you? >> Uh yeah. And I think they were. disappointed. >> Why? to hear Charlemagne the God say, "When y'all found out that Idris love K. Michelle, it was like turning it was. like turning wine into armist.". That's hilarious. Go ahead, laugh. [laughter]. No, it was hilarious. But you got to. understand, for a young black girl, for. y'all to do this, that man have never. done die me. My biggest selling album to. this day that still charts.

is about me and him. He doesn't. we don't play them games each other. Idris was amazing. He was an amazing. man. >> But it make it seem like it in other. words he made it seem like you were not. worthy to be with Idris Ela. It like. >> that's what you did Charlamagne. >> What would Idris want with her? We could. have. >> a whole hood. I am so sick of y'all. because Idris could put on a suit. >> Yeah. >> This Idris would do fine in Memphis.

>> Damn. >> Idris would do accent and all. You. talking about a DJ that was in the. streets and you know in happening. but he still like we don't have no hate. That man is married. I uh him and his. wife I think she's gorgeous. I think you. know what I'm saying? Yeah. >> I want that. But my album I never I. never exposed that. We did everything. together. But people thought that I was.

not good enough. So every time you would. see me and Idris, you never would even. put that. >> You thought they were just They probably. thought you were just hanging out. Y'all. were just friends, huh? >> Oh, cuz we did I took a musical. I redid. my album before. And he produced it. We. did all of that. But I have nothing bad. to say. about Idris. We went through what we. went through. I sent my album first. >> I sent my album to him first. >> Yeah. >> And he did this. It's a This is a.

masterpiece. I hate we've gone through. this. >> Um, but that is a That is a hood [ __ ]. >> Like we Hey, we going to stop. We going. That is a hood. That is a hood [ __ ] I. don't care how fine, how dare y'all want. him to be. That is That is a street. hackne. That still is a street dude. Don't do that. >> Do you regret having sex with men you. worked in with us in this? >> Absolutely not. You think you'd have got farther or did. it hinder you? Did it help? What did it.

do? >> They was going to do it regardless. They were going to try to take me from. me regardless you. >> But you you do realize like you know. you're not. >> the only people I'm around is the people. I'm working around. I'm not. >> But that's okay. You can just cuz I. Let's just say for the sake of argument. I work for a company and they got 20,000. employees. >> Okay. >> So you mean to tell me I'm not going to. go outside of that building? You mean to. tell me I can't find nobody outside of. the building? >> You shouldn't. Why? >> You should deal with the people with. something to lose.

>> True. >> You should deal with the people who. could lose their job just like you. >> But here's the thing though. But you was. lo you you stood more to lose than them. >> Um now I see that. But at that time did. who who stood more to lose when I still. have remained successful. I haven't had. to go out here and be chopped up in a. box or put up on crime files. >> Yeah. these men. We know who they are. We know. how to contact them. We know what they. bring to the table. That's a better.

thing for me. I'm sorry. It just still. is when it comes to work and comes to. living and being what it is. I don't. want to date nobody. >> um that doesn't understand what I'm. going through. >> I don't want to do it. I don't want to. go meet a man at a bar. I just don't I. don't want that. You don't understand my. life. You don't understand what I've. gone through. Right. >> I want somebody that does business and. understand my business. >> Well, congratulations on getting married. last year. How has marriage changed, Kate?

>> Oh my god. It's like you're supposed to. sleep with the like the same sausage. forever. Like I started getting a whole. another respect. Like it's one thing to. be like, I want to be married, but after. the ceremony or whatever, what happens? >> So, thank God my husband's my like he's. really my best friend. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> So, so what's it like? Because everybody. has this look. >> this. >> marriage is the ceremony. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Once the ceremony is over, all the. friends like, "Oh, we're so happy for. you. Congratulations." And you dance and.

you eat the cake. >> I don't get any of that. >> And you go to go on the honeymoon when. you bring your ass back home. >> Okay. >> And y'all just. >> But we've been doing this for so long. Yeah. >> Like that's the thing. Like we have been. close since high school. You get that? Yes. like you've been around this person. since high school this and that. So. marriage for me like you know how I got. married people are on a whole debate. right now about it. >> Um it's a whole thing I'm dealing in but.

me and that man like I didn't get a. honeymoon face. He should have been. married me. >> You could what? Hold on. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. You left. >> There ain't no honeymoon face. You. didn't give him no, you didn't give him. the time of day. He wanted to. >> Yeah. When we started dating since then, when I'm saying we've known each other, it's not that that 11 13 years has. nothing to do with high school. This was. after. >> Oh,

>> this has nothing to do with. >> So, y'all dated for 13 years before you. got married? >> Yes. He wouldn't marry me. >> Why? >> Because when I got into it, I said I. never want to be married. >> Well, damn. He took your word. >> And then when he didn't do it, he tried. just like, "Let's go to Vegas and get. married." And I was like, "God, no." And. then once he never tried to come back. around and people was like, "Why y'all. not married?" I'm looking at him like, >> "You said you didn't want to.". >> Yeah. But why wouldn't you? >> No. See? No. See, see, there you go. >> But why wouldn't you try? >> You He tried and you said, "No.".

>> But why wouldn't you just try? >> No. See, there you go. See, that's what. women do. See, see how y'all do that? Women, you see what I'm talking about? The man said, "I want to marry you." No, >> no, but why not try? if you love. somebody. And when I said to him, "Why. weren't you trying?" He said, "Because. you don't want to be married, girl.". >> Thank you. >> This is your control. This is something. that. >> this is his power. >> This marriage proposal was his. >> Yeah. So, I had to do what I had to do. >> Give me the difference. All men, a. regular guy dating a regular guy.

>> Okay. >> Dating an athlete. >> Okay. >> Dating a musician. >> Okay. >> Dating an actor. >> Okay. I would say that everybody in. entertainment is entertainment. >> Okay. >> And you know it's like finding out Santa. Claus is not real. [laughter] Like you. know all your friends like I f I can. meet him and you found out he's just a. regular guy who didn't take care of his. child support. Like he's just a regular. guy. Dating an actor he's acting. He. makes a living off of fake.

>> you know. >> Can you tell where he's acted or where. he's been? >> Absolutely. It's always it's always on. >> Okay. dating an athlete. >> You like them the best though. I could. tell. [laughter]. >> I could tell. >> Athletes. Yeah, athletes are. they can be grounded. >> They can't be that. >> because they have to work hard and they, you know, they have to go really in like. they have to like you, like me, you were. talking like you have to be healthy, you. can't do this, this, and that. It's a.

lot of dedication. So, that type of. dedication connects. >> Yes. you know, with someone like me. But. athletes, baby, if you're not prepared for those. flights, those running up that that. Uhuh. >> Were you that date athlete they ran uh. his uh side piece ran up on you? >> Oh, always. Like I'm I was always the. Dylan and that I would never. >> You would never run up on a. >> Oh, absolutely. >> You have? >> I have.

>> Okay. >> I've ran up on a lot. Like I have ran. up. >> How you run up on somebody? >> Yeah. But I feel like that was my. boyfriend. >> And were they disrespecting you? >> Yeah. Disrespecting me like saying. things. I would have to write songs and. all of that. That was like 20s like like. top of 30s. That's nowhere in me. But I. will say for the women who date. athletes, >> Yeah. >> that is a life that doesn't leave much.

room for your own. >> Yeah. >> I believe that. >> Yeah. Okay. I Yeah. Cuz they kind of. like they kind of want the woman. available when they want her available. And so it's kind of hard for you to have. a real full-time job because when he. needs you to pick up and go somewhere, you know, if you got a job, >> it's about him. It's about his health. It's about how he moves. That's your. whole family structure. Nothing's wrong. with that. But if you want something. else for for yourself, that's when it. gets very difficult. I can say that.

>> Who did you tolerate the most from? The. regular guy, the athlete, the musician, or the actor? >> Oh, I felt like the actor I did never. had to tolerate anything. Perfect. Yeah. Acting gentleman. >> Yeah. >> Um, the athlete I had to tolerate the. most. It was always It's always a game. It's always something going on. They. always got to be fed. They always got to. be taken care of. They always got to. feel their bodies got to be good. Everybody, the whole family. Dating an.

athlete is something that is not for the. weak. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> If an individual is not married, is it. okay for him or her to have. conversations outside of that. relationship? >> Yeah. >> Absolutely. >> Huh? >> Absolutely. >> So, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. another time. I need a full time out. So, for the sake of argument, you and I. dating. >> We're not married, though.

>> You feel that it's okay for you to have. communication with other men? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. We ain't going to be able to do. that. >> Absolutely. >> We We ain't going to be We ain't going. to be together. >> For you, >> huh? >> Is it okay for you? >> No. >> Oh. >> What type of conversation we talking. though? >> Conversation. You just asked me about. one conversation. >> because Hey, I don't want you. >> conversation. You be go see see you. going to be at the bar. You going to be. at the bar having a you know having. >> but you you assume that [laughter]. >> you just assume that you you just wrote. me as that you assume that.

>> what type of conversation are you. talking about that you asked me out. >> It's going to feel it's going to be some. type of way. It it's even if you're not. married the other person is under the. assumption. it's oneonone and there no outside. >> having a conversation is too different. from a bedroom and match dancing. That's. two different things. >> But they might be trying to they be. might having a conversation to try to. lead to that direction. >> Okay. But if she shuts it down, >> okay, >> what does that mean? Conversations can. always take place. Especially when you.

have not solidified that this is who I. am with for life. Yeah. I think that's. when the problems lie. When you give so. much to a man or you give so much to a. woman and there's no real defined thing. >> Okay. There's no. >> angry. >> Okay. There's no the only real defined. thing is marriage. Anything other than that that's not. true. >> So let me So when you get let's just say. your husband's like okay look. >> cuz I'm assuming that you like a lot of. women said look I'm dating with the.

purpose of getting married. >> Okay. >> And so that so if you say I'm dating. with the purpose of getting married he's. like okay I'm cool with that. You do. away your roster. >> at the beginning. >> Yeah. He said. >> absolutely not. >> No no no. Okay. You said you you dating. to get married. He said. >> you date with the purpose of get. married. What that means is what women. have not been taught that that means. dating with the purpose of marriage is. with the purpose of marriage. If this. man you don't know if he's going to be. your husband. You're dating. You're not.

dated to one person. You're dating. You're supposed to be dating. I didn't. tell you to go pop it open for. everybody. I didn't tell you to do any. of that. If you're dating, you're dating. people. >> Okay? Dating is dating, right? >> Dating isn't like, >> what if you say, "Kay, I want this. I. want this exclusive. I want this between. you and I.". >> Okay. Well, we've had that conversation. And if we both decide that, then it's. between Don't do that. >> No. >> But see, I've already had the. conversation. I'm telling you what I. want.

>> Okay. Okay. Well, then we talk about. that. There's no me. Men don't come up. to you and say, "Oh, let's date and. this. I just want me and you to date.". That's not the conversation that is had. It's always like, "I'm not ready for a. serious relationship, but I want to I. want you to be serious to me.". [laughter]. >> Is that what it be saying? >> That's what they say. You know that. And. that's not happening. If you want to get. to know me and we're going to. exclusively get to know each other and. date, then that is a conversation as. grown like grown folk talk. >> But if not, I can listen to whatever.

else or any other man that's talking to. me. >> But well, he but he but I mean he might. be worried about somebody come beating. his time. Well, he should get up on his time. If. it's something there, then there should. be something there. It shouldn't be. these. It shouldn't be these lines and. drawn that don't make sense for just it. makes sense for him but not her. nowadays. No, I am old school though. I'm old school in dating. I'm very old. school. Like my parents are together. They've always been together. I would.

love that if you know while dating and. this and that. I get that. But that's. not what's going on now. So now you have. to just say I pay my bills. I make my. own moves. And that's what it is. >> Okay. Reality TV. How did reality TV. change K's life? >> Um, good and bad. Um, bad. People think. that they know you. Good. I don't have. to hide a lot of things. I get to walk. in the room as who I am. >> You making good money on Love and Hip. Hop. Making. >> Well, I I ain't been there in 10 years.

>> But But you was making a lot of good. So, did you did you I mean, cuz now you. like you making But you can sing. you. making good money, >> but. >> Love was good for me. >> You like it? Do you enjoy it? >> Yeah, it was good for me. It was a lot. of stress, but at the end of the day, it. also was a a situation that allowed my. talent. I opened up Love and Hip Hop. singing a song. Um, I have gotten all. type of number one albums, which people. who never did reality that like to judge. never got to do in their life. And I.

have been singing, talking to people. ever since. Loving hip hop was great for. me. >> I mean, you were on there with Atlanta. with Jocelyn and Mimi and Rashida and. Carly and Steve J, Scrappy, Mama D. Uh, why what's what are some of the things. that happened that didn't that probably. I'm assuming considering everything. probably made air? Is there some things. that didn't make a. >> lot of stuff didn't make air? A lot of. stuff that now would be absolutely. absurd. I'm happy that it didn't make. it, but that cast was not put together.

It wasn't a fake anything. They put us. on TV and we ran a mug and we No one. understood what happened. It was like. number one and it was all for our real. lives. >> with with Mimi and uh you know uh. Joselyn and Stevie Jay that interaction. that. >> why you get your nose turned up like. that. >> It was too much. It was a lot. Huh? you know, like um I like I love Joselyn.

Like me and Joselyn, we fight. Um I. think his personalities are similar, but. when it comes to like, you know, she got. on the show, she didn't get a dime. Um. >> she didn't get paid. >> No, because it was a it was a lead. Like. they they felt the way about who she was. as a person. And that's why I always I. don't love everything Joselyn does, but. I can say she she fought out of a lot of. things. Um, imagine if you get on TV and.

your man for Mimi, your man got a whole. another storyline with a whole another. woman. So, yes, I pop Mimi with those. flowers. And you know, I feel bad about. it, but I don't. >> How you going to say I feel bad, but I. don't? I don't cuz it was a huge TV show. that [clears throat] you know made and. and she. >> What do you think when her sex take came. out? >> Did you know about it? >> Oh, >> had you heard was the whispers? >> Yeah, I had heard everything. So, but I.

wasn't even on the show. So, for them to. put me back on the show with Joselyn to. >> discuss it. Yeah. To discuss it, it was. like, okay, I just wish it was a good. sex tape. You know, if you're going to do. anything, be the best at all the stuff. that you do. The sex tape was very. mediocre. Like the shower rod, you could. have done it better. You could have hung. there better. It was not. >> I mean, the mere fact she's hanging on. the shower. >> It wasn't a performance.

>> I'm like, what what did they reinforce. with? >> It wasn't a performance. It was very. much performative, but it wasn't. perform. It wasn't like exciting. So, if. you're going to do a sex tape and your. kids get to watch it, I would make the. best sex tape. >> I don't think I don't think they they. was wanting the kids to watch it. >> Oh, they had to. If you go and resign. and go sign a deal in order for the sex. tape to be distributed, >> you should have redone it. Well, >> you get what I'm saying? Like, whatever. you stand on, make it great.

>> That wasn't a great sex tape. You know, that wasn't a great sex tape. >> I ain't watching. Like if I'm going to. go down, I want the best sex tape ever, you know? That wasn't a good one. It was. like uh exciting. >> But you're so good. I mean, they put you. on Love and Hip Hop New York. Love and. Hip Hop Los Angeles. You be. >> What What is it about you? What how do. you How did you get I mean, normally. [laughter] if if you on a series, you. don't get to like We We starting another.

series in over here. Hey, let's bring K. Oh, we started another series over. there. Let's bring K. How how are you? What what what is it about your person? >> Chilling. Chill. I be chilling. Like. anything I see I'm going to speak on. I. just I'm I'm myself. Like it's not a. city that can hold me. That's not it. Like I'm chilling. Like that show. >> Um it is culture. That also is a part of. culture. And I just feel like I was I. feel like there's a lot of women in. women that look like me and act like me.

So I I'm not putting on a character. I'm. being exactly who I am. So, every city. has a me. >> You were uh on love uh with Los Angeles. with Ray J. What's a Ray J like? Cuz I. think we we. >> did Ray J. You interviewed. >> I did Ray J. Well, he was on one that. day. He's on one MOST DAYS. >> OH, YES. >> He was laying down jumping over the. couch. >> Yeah, Ray J's amazing. Like we did a. play together. They had to separate us. because of our behavior. We grown people. making a lot of money doing this play,

but they had to separate us. When it. comes to Ray J, um I feel like he. doesn't like how people um try to box. him about his. about his sister. Yeah. Like Ray J is. his own character. He's his own person. He's his he's his own being. But one. thing people will never say that Ray J. ain't cool. >> And Ray J, you know what I'm saying? If. you call Ray J, he going to have your. back, >> right? >> So, >> but now you're on the Real Housewives of. Atlanta. You like switch network, switch.

franchises. So what what's what's that. like now? >> People are mad. >> It's a thing. It's like a trending. thing. >> Like once you here, you stay here. Don't. go don't be going over there. >> Yeah. And to watch the girls see the. girls in Atlanta have this click, Shannon. Like I don't know if you've. gotten into the click yet, >> but it's the click of I'm cool, I'm. rich, I'm this and that. I've never fit. into anybody's click, right? >> So I've never been the girl when I talk. about blacks and being elite and things. like that. Um, I've always had the.

written paper accolades, but my behavior. has never. >> You still that girl from Memphis? >> Yeah. It's never given that and they. hated that. So, a lot of these women. want to be on this type of show, um, great money, showing your life, doing. with dealing with all of that. So, when. they found out a girl from Love and Hip. Hop was coming to Atlanta that was, you. know, upscale this and that, they really. tried to give me a hard time. But the. thing is, I am a housewife. Regardless. of the types you see or what you think,

I give this housewife, I give that. housewife. I just give myself. >> Right. [snorts] But now you're on there. with Porsche, Fedra, >> Drew, Angela, Oakley, Pinky, Cole. What's that? What What's it like? What's. it like now? >> When I first had I was shocked cuz I you. know, you think this and that. You know, here it's a it's a mental and it's a. verbal spark. Yeah. Like it's completely. different. Like you ain't going to slap. nobody. You're not going to do that.

Everything is mental. And I think I. think I get a kick out of it. >> You like that, huh? >> Oh, I think I get a kick off of just. like thinking and saying what needs to. be said. >> But you you are interacting with Oak and. I know Oak. I've known Oak 30 years. >> Friend, [laughter]. what what's what's Oak like on reality. television? him. Um, honestly, he is so. cool. So, in order to be in a room of.

all of this going on and like our first. connection is what like first episode. came out, everybody's like, "Can we. please get get Charles K just to sit and. like talk? He just him." Like, and I. took to that. Like, it was just cool. It. wasn't I'm being extra. I'm being. Charles Oakley. It was just that, you. know, me and my wife, we cool. And. that's what I took to and I enjoyed the. both of them. >> Pinky Cole is on the show. >> Yes. >> And you know she had the [ __ ] vegan. and it was booming especially during co.

and after that and she ran into some. financial hard times. You a rep farmer. restaurant tour. Um what are some of the. conversations that you had with her that. probably didn't make the show? >> We talk every night outside of any. camera. She's a Delta. I'm a Delta. Um. she's smart as hell. >> Yes. When I say smart as hell, one thing. about being a winner, you always have to. accept your L's. Yes. >> And the things that happen to you. >> I'm sorry. The best of winners, no one. wins every time. >> Correct.

>> Like we going to always go through. things. >> Yes. >> When you're fighting to be great. Um. she's a prime example of being honest. and you know her I don't even want to. say losses and her lessons. And that. girl to have a franchise that big. >> Yes. and it's still going. Even when. people try to take it from you, >> I can say that I just really do respect. her strength and what she does. >> When uh the investments that you made, I. mean, obviously you're a singer, you're.

a restaurant tour, you you still you're. on these shows. >> Mhm. >> Have you made any sound investments? >> No. I have bought um uh investment. properties, me and my husband. My dream. home I do not plan on buying for another. 3 to 5 years. just because I liked that. I'm going through a restaurant situation. now. I wanted to be Ghost from Power. I. thought I I thought I had that street in. me. >> Yeah. >> Um I'm on my fourth restaurant. This one. is kicking my butt at this time. I would.

like to exit for it. Um I don't want to. say I didn't take anything from. business. I took the lessons and I've. understood just because you have the. money doesn't mean that you need to. spend it on anything else. So that is. what I have learned in business. Um. >> it's tough. >> It's tough. It it all is tough. >> It's all encompassing. It's it's all you. think about. Eat, sleep. >> You take on another baby. When you take. on a business, then you take on another. baby. >> You absolutely do. >> And it's a lot. So for me to be in a.

deal like right now that I'm getting out. of that was supposed to be like about 10. people. I wanted to take it on myself. I've never taken like a restaurant L, but this time I'm taking a L and I'm. taking it with grace and it is what it. is. I still enjoy it. >> You're the first bar you're the first. black artist to have an own drink of. Jack Daniels. >> Yeah. >> Um, how's that partnership and how did. it come about? >> I'm the first black ever endorsed by. Jack Daniels, period in life.

>> Okay. Um, when I signed to my label, they told me not going to happen. >> Wow. >> They are not SAK. They're never going to. give you a deal. you're not Beyonce, it's not happening. Right. >> And um the number one buyer of Jack. Daniels honey was African-American. women. >> And after that, they wanted a. African-Amean who really loved Jack. Daniels. So I was getting these big. bottles with bows on them at every show. They wanted to know who I was. So they. called. I did the BET Awards. It was.

like, "How did she get all these. entries?" They said, "We're going to. give you some more money." I said, "No, I need a drink." They said, "It'll never. happen." I said, "Well, bye." And then. about 3 months later, they said, "We're. going to give you a drink. We're going. to give you the lowest hanging fruit of. a drink, which is a country cocktail, and we're going to let you come in to. create it with another black woman. The. flavor profiles are all created by black. women at Jack Daniels named Jerita. >> And we went in and created these drinks. and came up with Southern Peach. And it. was every day. They said I couldn't have. a gold cap.

>> All the men, the executives, I said, "I. need a gold cap.". >> And they gave me a gold cap. The drink. went into 14,000 stores. I got paid off. of every case sold and the most money. I've ever seen in my whole life and. career regardless of going to sing a. song and do anything. And. >> so you made more money from this. partnership than you have in your music. career. >> Yeah. I created that drink. I created. the packaging of that drink. They would. not give me Jack Ningles is amazing. They teach me about business to this.

day, but they would not. One thing that. as black people we should learn, they. would not give me any piece of longterm. business or a piece of that business. And Jack Daniels was created by a slave. Um, and. >> Bernard Green, I think, >> but they never like Uncle Ner, like they. never took it from me. They never took. that I was black. They always told me. speak exactly how I feel. And they've. always been like that. So right now it. has been over what we're probably about.

a two and a half three years where I go. to a distillery in Kentucky and have. created a moonshine. If you are southern. you understand when people come to your. house they bring you illegal moonshine. and glasses. So now I have a moonshine. coming with my country album. And. >> look I just know everything I've gone. through. I know how to do this. How did how did reality television help. your country music career? >> Um, I haven't seen it yet. I don't know.

what it's going to do. Um, I helped my. R&B. I was able to do this and that, but. now I'm introduced to a different. demographic of women and and things and. we will see within the next six to seven. months what country music and reality TV. because it hasn't been done what it will. do, >> right? You look at Cardi and uh she was. on Love and Hip Hop. Kind of got her. career started there and then she broke. the highest grossing debut arena tour by. a female rapper. [screaming]. >> I love I love people can't make me hate.

Cardi. I just love her person. I just. love her personality. I love she is. unapologetically who she is. >> and that's who she is. >> I I believe it. I believe this is I. believe what you see on television. I. believe when there's no cameras around. and she don't have makeup on, I believe. she behaves and acts that exact same. >> That's exactly who this woman is. She. will always like I will never forget. like um I was in my kitchen and I love. Cardi. I listened to everything but. something said call her like it was. random and I I had hit her and I said.

are you okay and she said that is scary. I literally have been listening to your. songs for a week. Um that girl. >> I just feel like she's real life. >> I'm sorry. Like it's nothing is perfect, but she is who she is and I'm going to. always stand for someone like that. >> Well, next time you talk to her, tell. her to come on club sh. >> You want to come on club? Would you date. Cardi?

>> Huh? >> I mean, >> she's Where'd that come from? >> You're single. But would you date her? >> No. >> I would think that. >> No. No. I can't you to be honest. I want. I want to go out and eat in peace. I. don't want cameras in my picture. going. out to eat in peace. So, hang that. >> I was just out last night eating in. peace. >> No, but they knew it was um. >> Yeah, but I'm saying. >> no, it was not that. You can say that, >> man. Let Carti do the the tour is doing. well. She's raising.

you and but you also know who I think. would be good for you. >> Who? >> Like, I think you and Kha Cole would be. good together. >> Oh, Lord. >> You've said her name before. I do good at hooking people up. I. I feel like who doesn't think that I. think that that Oh my god. I think And. you know the other What's the other girl. liked you? >> Who? >> The delicious girl. I wouldn't like her. back. So that. >> Oh, delicious.

>> I won't put that on. >> What's a real What's her real name? >> I wouldn't want her either. So I. wouldn't put that back. >> What you mean? HOLD ON. WHOA. WHOA. WHOA. WHO SAID THAT? >> You didn't say anything back. >> I didn't say anything. >> Why? >> Oh. Oh. Oh, you talking about when I. first CJ I say she talking when I first. went on when I first went on on Well, at. first I didn't see it. >> At first I didn't see it cuz I wasn't I. wasn't on social media like that. CJ was. explaining to me like she uh you know. she shot a shot blah blah blah. >> I think she's gorgeous but I think Yeah, I don't think that would work. Maybe you. and Kesha Cardi you and Carter be so.

excited. >> But I got you. Give me like 3 days. C. Listen, I I I ain't nothing. I'm not I'm. not I'm not. >> We want our um I'm not. >> We want our um culture like the dude. everybody. >> I ain't Card's type. I'm not Card's. type. >> You know, how do you know. >> cuz you seen the guy she's dated. >> That doesn't mean anything. People all. always like by the time they get the. thing they people.

>> and I heard them Dominicans, they be on. one. >> Well, so I can't do that. >> You can't. I got I got to lay low now. I. got to lay low. >> Oh, no. I'm going to get you someone. >> because [clears throat] I just feel like. I feel like culturally we should not let. go. >> Okay. I appreciate. >> we should not let go. Uncle, we all love. Uncle. We want Unk to have that woman. So, we all. >> Oh, >> now that's my job. I'm going to get it. done. Watch this. >> Man, they done put me with together with.

everybody. They put me with Dr. Bryant. >> I don't like that for you. >> [laughter]. >> WHY YOU DON'T LIKE DR. BRIDE? SHE WAS SO. NICE. >> NO, I LIKE HER. I don't I don't like. that for you. >> Okay. So, you want me to have you a. hip-hop star? You want me to have. >> No, honestly, I don't. You know what I. want you to have? >> I've never. >> Can I say what I want you to have? >> You know what you want me to have? >> Okay. Can we speak honestly? >> Yeah. >> I want you as this successful, handsome. black man that every like that like our.

culture loves. I want you to have this. bad like smart educated. >> woman who has things going on. It don't. have to be hip-hop. I'm No, I definitely. don't just want you. I'm just talking. about someone who would deal. >> who personalitywise. >> could deal with jurist success and. personalitywise. That's that's what I'm. talking about. They don't have to be. hip-hop. I don't care if they were a. doctor or this and that. I want you to. have a fly just just like a fly woman.

who can get you together. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Like who can get you together? Like I. want you to that's what we see for you. Like I think the world. >> is rooting for this Shannon Sharp who is. going to be. >> I But I'm think I'm saying what. everybody thinks, right? >> EVERYBODY WANTS THAT GIRL for you. Everybody wants that girl for you. >> But I don't think I don't think they.

envision Cardi. >> Well, I would envision Cardi cuz I want. the best for both. But the Okay, so if. you were to think about. >> Mhm. >> who Unk If you see Unk out, who would. Unk be with that that would do that? I. would say no, I'm not going to say that. cuz she's married. >> Who? >> You know who I saw the other day, yesterday? Regina Ho now. >> OH, BUT OH NOW.

[screaming]. you. >> now YOU COOKING NOW YOU. >> MY GOD she's amazing. She is beautiful. successful. That is what cuz guess who I. was going to say who else I saw. yesterday. >> I had seen Megan good with with with. Jonathan but I would have seen I had her. on the show. She's awesome. >> Oh my god. But I was saying, "Okay, >> Regina, that is what. where's her phone number?" That. >> do you understand how people like would.

feel like her? She's like auntie. She's. beautiful. She's Oh my god. >> Do you know what that would do? You and. Regina Hall, >> do you have her phone number? >> I don't. [laughter]. >> You need to get Oh, she's gorgeous. She's talented. She's smart. She is. >> I met her one one time many years a. grown woman. So that mean you like her? >> No. [laughter]. >> You work with Neo also. What was it like.

working with Neo? >> He's he's dope. Like when I work with. Neo, I had had like an edible and I was. wilding out. >> Damn. >> No, I was whing out and Anita Baker. >> Yeah, >> I was whing out so bad. And Anita Baker. had DM'd me and said, "You are so. gifted. I need for you to shut up. >> [snorts]. >> And. >> sweet love say sweet. >> she said I need for you to chill and I. said well you don't care about me and. she said give me your where you're going. to be. I'm sitting there with Neo and. all of a sudden Anita Baker's like I'm.

here and I said who? He said it's no way. that's Anita Baker. She doesn't go. anywhere. So that was me and Neo's like. work relationship. She came in. >> She pulled up on you. >> But that's ain't that what we supposed. to do? >> Yeah. >> She pulled up to get me together and she. did. She got me. >> together. Good. >> She told me. >> cut that foolishness out. >> Yeah. She wasn't playing with me. Neita. Baker said, "I'm rolling up on you.". >> Neo has this situation now. Could you. date a man with that had multiple.

partners knowingly and he expressed say, "You know what? Hey, I like you. I want. to spend time with you. Okay, >> but I got X, Y, and Z." Also, >> I do respect it. I do respect the truth. Um, I love Neo as a writer. I don't know. if I would let him do that to me. [laughter]. >> What you mean do that to you? >> I don't know if that would give that. >> give you the satisfaction that you need. >> Yeah. But I I I love Leo. I I wouldn't. let him do that to me. >> Have you ever had any uh uh any of your.

songs taken by another artist? >> You do know that. That's why you asked. me. >> I ain't I don't know. >> Yeah. A specific artist did. And we're. going to get to that. But yeah, I've had. some. >> She This artist took your song. >> Yeah. >> You know it was yours. >> Oh yeah. [laughter]. >> Did she apologize? Did she send you. anything? >> No. She just just tries to make me a bad. person. >> That's it.

>> Damn. >> It's gone. >> You cool with that, huh? >> I'm not cool with it, but you pick your. battles. >> If one thing, if I'm a writer, I can. make a lot of songs, >> right? I'mma keep making. >> So you going to make you write another. one? >> I'mma write them for your favorite. artist and write them for myself. >> Let's not let's not I don't want them. people to come. >> Come on, Regina. >> No, I don't want them people them people. come for me here. I don't want them. people to come for me cuz you know. >> they will. They will go bad.

>> Yeah, >> it goes so bad. I just really like this. Regina Hall thing. Can I sing at that. wedding? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, you and Michelle and Jgo. Cello cuz when I get married, she's. going to be singing. >> Oh, >> that's one of my favorites. Probably. Michelle and Dger and Maxwell. >> So, you do want to get married? >> Yeah, for sure. >> Okay. You want kids anymore? >> What? You can have. >> I just told you I'm I'm about to be 50. >> What does that mean? You can't have a. kid because you're 50. >> No.

>> Why? >> Cuz you shouldn't have one child and one. adult both wearing diapers. [laughter]. That's why. The hell. >> LOOK DEALING WITH YOU. >> REALLY? >> NO. >> OKAY. SO, like if you love this woman, >> love her. >> Say you love this woman. She just really. wanted a baby. You wouldn't do you. wouldn't do it. >> If she already has kids, I have no. problem. >> So, what do you see like the rest of. your life like familywise?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. about that travel. I ain't much of a. traveler though. Okay. I ain't going to. lie to you. I ain't going to hold you. >> I ain't no traveler cuz people like, "Man, you don't want no vacation.". Vacation is for people that want to get. away from something. I don't feel I need. to get away from anything. I love what I. do. I love my We talking offline. I was. like, I I love what I do. That's why I. do it. This is my fourth sh fourth. taping of Club Shay Shay in three days. and we've done three episodes. You love. it. >> I love it. So, I've been doing two shows. sometimes three shows a day over the.

last three days. I I I love what I do. So what is your if you see your life now. like what is what do you want for. yourself? Like what is your goal? What. is your ultimate happiness for? >> One of them one of them bungalows in the. Mald doing something bad. >> Doing something bad. >> Okay. Okay. Forever. >> Not forever. No. No. No. I'm Look, I at. some point in time I'm going to have to. go on vacation. I haven't been on a I. honestly haven't been on a vacation. probably in oo 30 years. Is it fear?

>> No. >> You know how some people don't take a. vacation because they fear that if they. move out of their space and if they. don't. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hate I hate. breaking a routine. But it's just hard. for me to turn my mind off. >> Even at night, I don't sleep well cuz. I'm always thinking, okay, I need to do. this and this needs to go well. I want. to be, you know, CJ. Hey, I'm calling C, you know, I try not to bother CJ after a. certain time, understanding that he has. a family. And I'm like, but I'm. constantly thinking. I'm constantly.

trying to like, okay, how do I make Shay. Shay Media better than what it is? How. do I grow this? How do I scale this? How. do I do uh with Laortier and how do I do. X, Y, and Z? So, it's just really hard. for me to just like to go and to turn my. mind off cuz you go on vacation, you. just got to, you know, you just got to. let whatever's going on where you left, let that be until you get back. And it's. just hard for me to do that. >> Do you think like with you, like people. have always saw Ank as the most perfect? >> Yes. >> You get what I'm saying? like the most. per perfect uncle this and that. Do you.

feel like the last things of what you. have gone through have even made you. bigger. >> in the world because it shows that that. you were vulnerable and it shows that. you were human? >> Yes. Um I think the thing is is that. because I don't share a whole lot. I. don't you know I don't really post a. whole lot about what I got going on in. my life other than work related and. people know about my brother and my. sister and the kids a little bit. I post. a little bit about the kids, but not too. much cuz I want them to have their own. lives and be their own individuals. But. yeah. Yeah, it it it did because I was.

very very private about my personal life. and things that that went on in my. personal life and and I hate that people. got an opportunity to see something. about me that I didn't get to share. >> But was it your own reality show? >> Oh, yeah. It's that that world. I I. wouldn't I wouldn't wish what I went. through. I wouldn't wish that on. anybody. I think I think the community. and everybody fought and fight so hard. for you and I I I you could say I'm. wrong but I feel like after everything. that you've gone through I think it only.

made people love you more but the reason. because it because it showed that you. were human. >> like we have always looked at you as. like perfection like no like if just. talking to friends and people around. we've always looked at you. >> in a perfect this man is perfect but. even. >> even anything as false anything happened. that still doesn't make you perfect. That just makes you human. Yes. >> And I feel like even after this, like I. feel like people. >> related. >> Yeah. I think so. >> Like to you more. When you say Unk and. you say Shannon Sharp. No. People be.

like, "I'm going hard for him." Like. that is our. >> I didn't realize as big as I was until. like I'm like, "Wow." Like trending. trending trending trending trending. Like I don't want to trend no more. >> You don't want to trend no more? >> No. >> I don't. Even if it's a trending of like. helping like when you speak people. listen. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I still you know. look I still do I look I I'm I'm a type. of guy that I've done I do a lot of. things behind the scene. Kuz I don't. want I don't want when I do something.

for someone or something. I don't do it for attention. So when I. do things the objective is to make sure. they know they're not to tell that I did. X Y and Z. >> Mhm. >> So that's that's just how I am. Well, I. felt like you was already big and I felt. like after all the [ __ ] however, whoever was trying to do whatever to you. cuz you get to a point people going to. always like. >> Yeah. >> But I just feel like you took on a whole. a whole different a whole another level.

>> of. people supporting you. I do. I'm sorry. I feel like people want you to win. >> But like you have you have done for. years. You have done you have been great. in your field. >> Thank you. >> You have been great in your field and. then you did this and you took. podcasting and in and talking to people. to a whole different level. People have. been comfortable and I feel like for. years to come I think it's a different. comfortability because people know that.

you are human and. it is what it is and I'm done. >> Thank you. [laughter]. >> Thank you. Please. >> Beyonce. Uh. >> that's the truth, right? Y'all don't feel like everybody really. even took in him. >> Yeah, they did. I was embraced. Uh, you. know, look, I you know, the thing is is. that I had to get away from the street. community. I don't listen at what uh uh. social media say. I just know when I. went out and [clears throat] went out in. public and the people that talked to me. that still embraced me, it's like, "Hey,

they were praying for me. Hey, keep your. head up." Things of that nature. But. hey, if you try to try to uh listen to. and follow social media, boy, it's a. >> it's going to defeat you every time. >> Absolutely. Beyonce sent you flowers. before they released the country album. What did that I mean Beyonce. >> cuz you know she was in the country. spaces. She did I mean her album I mean. won the Grammy I think album of the. year. >> She had a couple of songs the song of. the year but she was she's amazing. Uh. you know she's the the cream of the crop. and but for her to like you know what. hey congratulations girl. I think that.

that was stand up as like even as a. woman like to be in country like this. isn't anything new to me. It wasn't like. Beyonce do this, I'm gonna be country. That wasn't that. Um there's a group of. us in Nashville, 20 of us in Nashville. that fight down to a tea. >> every single day, right? >> And for her to pay the respect and do. all of that, um I think Beyonce is a. class act and um I honestly feel like I. was shocked. I was I had a show that.

day. I didn't know. I knew that album. was coming out months prior, right? >> Cuz Nashville was buzzing, >> right? >> And you who going to tell when Beyonce. album coming out? That ain't for me. They going to beat me up, >> right? >> And so it wasn't that. >> And I was going walking on they was. like, "Oh, Beyonce looking for you." I. said, "Who is Beyonce? Who you talking. about? I'm talking about, you know, somebody in Memphis name. Beyonce. Who. you talking about?" And they was like, "Oh, no. Beyonce. What? They're they're. they're calling like they're trying to.

they've been trying to hit your page. Can you look in your page? And I. >> Oh, so you don't read DMs? >> No. >> Why not? >> I only read DMs to see if I still got. it. >> Oh, >> I I can put together a whole team in my. DMs. >> Like probably Allstar team. >> Yeah, cuz I know them guys been trying. to slide. >> Yeah, I like. >> That's why I erased mine. >> You erase your DM? >> Yep, I did. >> Oh my god. So no one can't do it. No, I. raced it to the one I sent you. [laughter]. >> Now what I did see that you'll never.

have me caught up now. You have me. caught up. You ain't call me caught. >> I wish I had saw it. I didn't see it. >> No. No. Don't worry about it. You won't. see it now. >> Oh my god. >> No, but I thought it was great. I did. I. thought that that was real. She doesn't. have to do any of that. And I just think. like again cultural leaders. >> Yeah. >> And um saying I see what you're doing. and Yeah. I think that's respectful.

>> Have you listened to Jack Harlo's new. song? New song. New album. >> What you want to ask me about that. >> you because you said man we let anybody. in. [laughter]. >> I didn't SAY THAT ABOUT HIM THOUGH. >> I didn't say you just said you let. anybody. We let anybody come to the. cookout. >> Now come on man. Can we do this? Can we. just not like blue-eyed soul gets to. make all of this money? We can't sing. our own music and then we're fighting to. sing what is society calls other people. music when we did start country music.

too. >> We started all music. Every music all. the industry originated from us. >> So you get that. So imagine so Jack. Hollow has a album he's released called. Monica. >> Mhm. [clears throat]. >> Does that mean my name? >> What is Monica? >> Oh lord don't mean to lie. Did you think. about that? >> I did. >> Monica, >> I try not to think about. >> Is that what we're doing? Is this my my. name? I I like his hat. I would like to. know where the hat came from. I would. like to wear the hat. Um but I also. would like to know you can respect our.

music and love our music. And it's a. thing, man. But to say I got blacker. You said you listened to something and. got blacker. >> That's You got blacker. >> You can love music. I love black music. even more. >> Right. >> But to say I got blacker. >> No, you you will never get to be as. black as us. You never get to be as. black as as as me. >> I can go up here. I can yodo all day. >> I tell you. Yeah. He can he can be what.

you call him? He can get as black as he. want to. But he ain't got them black. people problems. >> Monica, why did you name it? If if it's. appreciation for R&B singer Monica, I'm. all for it. We going to support Monica. Why? Why is that? Why are you walking. through the hood with this hat slouched. to the side? Why are you speaking half. words and I mean I get it, but at least. Jack Hollowo, you can never come out. with the white woman.

>> I hope that you get you a bit Memphis. That's the only way you're pulling this. off. That's the only way you about to. pull this off, right? If you the only way you got to you got. you got you got to be with some from for. Detroit. What did LeBron say? Milwaukee. [laughter] You got to go where LeBron. don't want to sleep. That's the only way. you can pull the album off. >> How hard was it for you to get into. country. >> because you say you've always wanted to. do country, but it's not a genre of. music that a whole lot of blacks are. partaking in. I mean I mean especially. and has success. I mean you look at.

Charlie Pride, you look at uh uh Darius. Rucker. I mean, there there have been. some blacks to have success, obviously. Beyonce recently, but it's not a genre. of music that blacks haven't typically. embraced, even though we started it. It's not a whole lot of it's not a genre. that there are a whole lot of us in. >> Um, it's but it's a genre that I've. loved. Like the first tape I ever got. was the Juds. It wasn't, you know, people would expect or this and that. I. watched Oprah. Yeah. >> And one day I saw the Juds,

>> right? And they that's when I start. wearing fire red hair and all of that. And country music like I get down. >> Like a Friday night for me is a big I. get down. When I say love like love it, it's not a thing. Um I've been saying. that that's never been new. Even before. any R&B, right, >> I tried to get a country music deal and. they told me I needed to sing R&B and. move over that I could never come into. country music. >> You can't start from country. Okay. Mhm.

So, the music is amazing, the. songwriting, and I've been in country. music. Even I've never played even in. R&B. I kept talking about country music, and my real fans say, >> "That girl been singing country music at. every show since she came out. I got a. whole country music section.". >> Wow. >> For years. Over a decade. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> AI, how did you feel about AI? >> Forget that. I got to fight with I don't. fight with no robot.

>> [laughter]. >> You get what I'm saying? Like we going. to fight with robots too. >> So imagine when you was out there doing. football. >> and they had a robot. >> Yeah. >> That was going to hand pass the ball to. running. >> Yeah. He going to do my job. >> He going to do your job. >> Right. >> So imagine someone who is winning at AI. and your name is in their bio and said. is a mix of K Michelle, Kesha Cole, and. Money Long. And this person comes to all. your concerts and this girl's story.

topics, how she sounds, the tone of. everything, the prompt. It's your voice. in pieces. And [clears throat] you ain't even had. no say so in your real life. Imagine how. defeated that you feel that a robot. >> Yeah, for sure. >> is coming to take something from you, too. >> Mhm. >> Like, god dang, I can't win for losing, man. You going to have this robot? >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, >> cuz I can't even beat this robot ass. Like, we really going to do this. So, I'm not with it. I was happy like people.

like Jana, um, AA and Khalani, all these. people come out to talk about this is so. not right. >> So wrong. >> Y'all are really taken from the likeness. of. >> y'all taking food and money off. Y'all. taking food off my table, money out of. my bank account. >> Yeah. So, I I had to say something. And. then if you're not even paying attention. and then you get that abundance of. messages saying this this this robot. sound like a Michelle. >> and then people go over there and look. in your name in the bio. How would you.

feel? >> Yeah. You feel you feel some type of. way? >> Yeah. >> Would you do versus? >> Oh, I I think I should do a versus. >> Who you going to go up against? >> Probably the Muppet. But I mean, who supposed be so I'm not I. would not I'm She supposed to be so much. better than me. She as as an elitist and. black person. She's so fine. But she's. the one with teeth knocked out sleeping. with married men. Not me.

>> I don't know who you talking about. >> Not me. But I'm I'm lowlevel, low class. because of your family. >> You don't want to tell me. >> Tell me in my ear. I no I would never. because I think people understand as far. as that I am over what they were saying. in the last couple years over like 10. million and this person is about 2. million and I put the two on the sister. >> and you steadily attacking me. So I've.

been quiet on your attack. So now get up. there do your versus little lady. Go for. it little muppet. Let's rock. [laughter]. >> Thank you for joining us. Memphis song. >> Okay, Michelle. >> Come on, Regina. We're in this wedding. This wedding is happening. I'm singing. I'm there. >> All my life. Been [music] grinding all. my life. Sacrifice. Hustle. Paid the. price. Want a slice. Got to roll the.

dice. That's why. All my life I've been. grinding all my life. All my life. [music] Been grinding all my life. Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price. Want a. slice. [music] Got to roll a dice. That's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life.