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Y'all wouldn't care to talk to me if I. ain't get raised by that man. >> Do you remember the last conversation. you had with your father? Mhm. >> Yeah. He was uh. my bad. All my life been [music] grinding all. [singing] my life sacrifice. Hustle paid. the price. Want a slice. Got to roll the. dice. That's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life. All my life.

[music] been grinding all my life. Sacrifice hustle paid the price [music]. to roll a dice. That's why all my life. I've been grinding all my life. >> Hello. Welcome to another episode of. Club Shay. I am your host Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay. Stopping by for conversation and a drink. today. He's a true Renaissance man. He's. an NBA champion. He was also a member of. the very first NBA championship brought. to the Cleveland Cavaliers. He's the.

first NBA player to take home the grand. prize on Dancing with the Stars. He's. the first athlete in his high school. history to have his number retired. A. multi-hined analyst, a rapper, an actor, artist, an entertainer, TV host, a. businessman, and a father. And he's from. Chicago. Here he is, Iman. >> Man, I appreciate [applause] you. >> What's up, bro? How you doing, >> man? wife made me sound better than I. [laughter]. >> give me some big shoes. >> You know what I wanted to ask? How you. get that? Cuz I I only know one Aman and. that's the that's the famous model. How.

did you get that name? Is that where did. your mom like. >> my mama she didn't name me after? But. she always love the name. Yeah. Okay. >> And then it's of African descent, but me. and my brothers all got like little. wrinkles of African descent in our name. U we not. >> technically we don't know our roots, >> right? Okay. >> You know what I mean? But. >> so you haven't did like a DNA or an. ancestry or anything like that? Kind of. find your roots. >> Yeah. I don't know my roots. I just know. my mama like African name. She came with. Iman. It just means someone to follow. what she said cuz I was just a big ass.

I was a big baby. I was born 12 lb 4 oz. >> Damn. >> 23 and 12 ines long. So she kind of I. think my the pain she kind [laughter] of. knew. Got to give him some sort of you. know. Yeah. Yeah. [snorts]. >> Man. Well, congratulations man. I want. to toast everything that you've ever do. You know this. >> I can't I can't I can't Ramadan. Oh, that my bad. I forgot. So, I forgot. that. >> Oh, no. But I ain't I ain't Muslim. Like. I said, I I ain't Muslim. I ain't got. nothing going on. But it's a discipline. thing. So, but Okay. >> Yeah. I'll take a little water though if. y'all got some. >> Right down there by your seat. >> Yeah.

>> Right there by your seat. >> I knew you could. Yeah. Yeah. >> I knew you cared about me. >> So, now let me ask you this. I remember. seeing on your Instagram post you lost. your father unfortunately last year. Um. what did your dad mean to you? How. influential was he in in the man that we. that shape that we see sitting here. today? Uh. O um. my dad uh. he just did everything like he um.

it was like it's such a a hard thing. when you got somebody. there and you get so used to it. It. ain't that I underappreciated him cuz I. talk to my dad every day. You know what. I'm saying? And I didn't underappreciate. them. [snorts] But it's like. [sighs and gasps]. when you when this good me around uh. when they when especially when they just. get snatched up like that ain't nobody. really ready for it.

It like the hole that it le I just I. guess the process of it was like um. understanding that uh until I'm until I. go down like they really won't know. You. mean we could celebrate we could do. this. People talk about getting flowers. while you still here on earth. >> But you can't really feel it till. somebody gone. You know what I'm saying? So it's like now when I do like just my. dayto-day stuff like I could hear him. Like I know I know what he taught me. Like it's to the point where it's like.

waking up and f to leave out my room. before I brush my teeth. I could hear. like you you didn't even brush your. teeth. Like how you going be in. everybody face [laughter] you a brush. your teeth dude. >> Right. >> You know what I mean? But it's like you. him and it's like I guess I'm it's like. the happiest hurt that you could have. cuz it's like I'm so uh. >> I know a lot of people didn't have a. father. >> and I'm I'm just I leaned on mine. You. know what I'm saying? Like I had I had.

friends that leaned on my father and. it's like. >> it make me happy as hell to say like he. was a good man. You know what I mean? But it's like within that same breath, it make you cry like a a little baby. that it's like I ain't got him no more. >> You know what I'm saying? But. >> it's uh Yeah, he taught me everything I. know though, man. I I definitely. wouldn't be y'all wouldn't care to talk. to me if I ain't get raised by that man. >> Do you remember the last conversation. you had with your father? >> Mhm.

[snorts]. >> Yeah. He was uh. he um. [sighs] the day before um. my bad. My bad, dog. Oh, he really.

bad. So, he really wanted me to uh. he like when I uh when I wear the suits, the full suit. Mhm. He like when I wear. shirt and tie and stuff. He always uh. got dressed for the office every day. who wear a shirt, shirt and tie. And uh. [snorts] our last combo, he just was. like, "Man, you look good in them uh in. them suits, man. Like, I like that you.

taking jobs now that you you wearing. that suit.". And then he told me, "Don't come home. Finish filming." Cuz we was filming the. podcast. >> Mhm. [snorts]. >> Told me and my brother not to come home. Finish filming. He got to go in the. hospital. He'd be right back. [snorts]. Uh yeah, that was the last one. But. >> did you know your father was that sick? M [snorts]. >> he never sh He never shared that. >> I mean I mean I knew he had to go in the.

hospital. I thought he just had some. like you know people get older. >> Yeah. >> Being there a couple days and he'd be. right back out. >> Yeah. And then knowing him, I just, you. know, [sighs]. I I would have been I guess I naturally. worry more about my my mom cuz. Yeah. I I ain't never Yeah. [snorts] A. dude don't ask for help. He don't. Yeah. Even in them last couple months, man, it was like hard to help him. You.

know what I We ain't know what was going. on for real. But it's like the help we. thinking we doing, we just like, "Yeah, Dad." Like, "You can ask us for. anything." Like, you know what I mean? Like, but I ain't even like noticed that. that he going out his way to say thank. you cuz it's like he ain't never had to. ask nobody for [ __ ]. >> right? >> You know what I mean? He been doing it. all since he was younger. So, it's like. [snorts]. uh it just hard to process. My bad. [laughter]. >> If your dad was. >> Yeah, he definitely said I look good in. suit. >> That was my last conversation. He said,

"You look good in the suit, dude.". >> He [snorts] was happy to see me in a. suit. So, shout out to ESPN, man. Give. me a reason to wear them suits. [laughter] If your dad was sitting in. this chair today, he's been gone a year, and you could have a conversation with. him, what do you think he would say to. you, and what would you want to say to. him? I don't know if my dad held back. anything from me, so I I don't think. he'd have much to say. He probably just.

reflect on whatever I'm going through at. the time at the moment. >> Mhm. >> But um. [snorts]. what would you want to say? I wouldn't talk. I wouldn't even talk. I ain't even going to lie to you, Shannon. I wouldn't even talk. I.

wouldn't be able to My bad. I can't even. do the interview now. But uh I wouldn't. be able to talk, bro. Like [sighs and gasps]. [snorts]. you don't get like we don't get good men. in the world in the world like we even. get like as a kid I was raised to like. deal with the bad men like. >> to like protect people from the bad men.

or. >> like when you just say the word men like. you just naturally think of all the. possibilities and all the negative stuff. that can come. [sighs] But. I just like if I could. like hugging your dad and he down like. you just you don't know until you see it. like you can't process it. So it's like. I just need him to be moving again. We. was talking about it when we was. cleaning him up. Uh but it's just like.

you know [snorts] he look like he going. to move, bro. Like he look like he's. smiling or some [ __ ] like like he. [snorts] want to get up. Uh but that uh. yeah, if he was here, I'd probably just. hug him [ __ ]. where I sit in this lap like a little. kid. [laughter]. >> Like a little kid, bro. But I ain't. never uh It's crazy cuz I I process. death in a lot of different ways, bro. Like, >> you know what I mean? But I ain't never. had to like really deal with it. Like.

[snorts]. like it seemed like all the family. members I even lost like it was like. once he passed it's like things made a. little more sense I guess like with the. weight of things. [snorts] It was just. so much weight to it. Uh. >> but uh yeah it it'll make a man out of. you, bro. Like. >> you like work your whole life to like be. like man I could do it like I could do. it just like that. I could do I could do. it. And it's like now y'all got y'all. [ __ ] got to do it. You know what I'm. saying?

It's time to do it now. So, >> well, let me ask you this. >> How close are you to R and your daughter. in the relationship that your you and. your daughters have compared to what you. and your father had? >> Oh, it's the same. They they. like they they I'm open book with them. Open door. Uh. me and Juny have tough conversations. uh. you know everything that's transpired. they won't they not I don't have their.

ear every day how my dad did. You know. what I'm saying? So I might that's their. difference that I don't have their ear. every day. >> But as far as when they're around me. when they speak to me. >> uh the protection that they need from. everything that they need, they get it. You know what I'm saying? Like I I know. it it be a lot going on in the world, but it's like with with kids like they. see time. >> They see you looking them in the eyes. they see you uh paying attention and. remembering they got a presentation. today. You know what I mean? like it.

count. M. >> they don't you can't you can't they. can't have a presentation and then. >> you just kind of forgot that it was then. you just came home you're like how was. school like they don't want to hear how. was school they want to hear how was the. presentation. >> right. >> like [snorts]. >> you know what I mean so it's like. >> their only difference is that they won't. get me access to me every night how it. was in my household that that's their. only difference but as far as what I can. present to them as far as love.

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you don't have your kids here every day, but you still need to be a parent, but. you still need to be a disciplinarian. You still need to be a friend. You still. need to be a at the end of the day, you're a father among all friends and. all that other stuff. You a father above. all things. But knowing like, damn, my. dad probably would have said this, but. he would have told me this on Monday and. Tuesday, and if I did it on Wednesday, then that would have been a problem. But. I'm only seeing these the these uh my. kids Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. So,

it's a whole different scenario. I mean, um, for me. is looking at it like [snorts]. cuz a little bit of it, it comes in like. my older my older my oldest is like. she's like able to handle like the. calls, the texts. >> My youngest, she's more like FaceTime. >> Okay, she want to see. She got to see. So, uh, luckily my my ex is not she's.

less it's not like a war or nothing. anymore. Like we can talk to the kids or. whatever. And. >> I think the the the part that I could. appreciate the most is that. >> my big girl, she she knows the weight of. it. Like she kind of knows like. >> that's Juny. Junior. >> Yeah. Juny. Junior would be like. awesome. like you know she she know it's. like I'm trying to make sure I I still. check in like I ain't talked to dad in a. couple days so she like check in and she.

want to show the phone the roof but she. like tries to stay on schedule so it's. like her making an effort um but I I. still you know that's that's what took. so long like that was the process the. whole shebang of you know what I'm. saying having to separate that was what. the biggest hurt was like we're not. going to have our kids on a dayto-day. like and I know how much it I benefited. >> like I benefited [clears throat] having. my dad come home and say why this ain't.

clean. [laughter]. >> You feel me? It don't make no sense when. you when you 14. It don't make no sense. He a [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> Then you get around some grown ass men. that's nasty. >> Yeah. >> Like I done I done clean other people. cribs and people be like, "What you. want?" I'm like, "What you mean when I'm. on?" I'm not going to sit down in this. >> Yeah. How you living like this? [laughter]. >> See what I'm saying? Yeah, man. It's.

like, bro, I I done really went in. people houses and stuff like while I'm. talking to them cleaning it like it's my. crib when I'm cleaning and they like, "Bro, what you doing?" Like, I'm like, "What you mean? This is gross.". >> I'm not going to say jokes about it and. sit over here and point at like, "You. see how nasty that is over there?". [laughter]. >> I'm in the house, too. That's gross. like I lead by example so I'mma do it. but it be like that be my dad. >> hear you talk. >> the importance of black fathers.

>> Yeah. >> and you know you hear sometimes like I. can do this on my own I don't need a man. >> but hearing you talk the importance of. your father and then and and in turn the. importance of you being there for your. kids can you speak to the importance of. having a black father in a black. household. >> yeah man uh. >> even if he's not there on a daily basis, but he makes sure that he checks in and. then make sure everything flows. smoothly. >> Yeah. I think that. I get this is the best example I could. give you about black fathers, right?

Blackfathers are like. a really good defensive back. [laughter]. You know what I'm saying? I say that. because like when you got a a cornerback. or a safety out here that's so good and. their hands is so good they catch. everything. Don't nothing get past them. >> or they going to deliver that big hit. Don't nothing get past them. >> The other quarterback [ __ ] won't. even throw him the ball. >> Mhm. >> And that's what having a father is like.

they won't even try you. All the [ __ ] that your dad do for you, you not going to see it. like the. insurance for this and fixing this and. we uh money was tight but he he done did. this this and this stayed out all night. >> You know what I'm saying? Like real pain. like. >> and he ain't going to let you feel none. of it. See none of it. It's like he your. your dad got to be Derel Revas out.

there. Like why you throwing the ball. over here? It's bad news you throw it. over here. You see what I'm saying? So. it's like I think that's what having a. father and then having a black father. being able to walk through like this. country got some up and down [ __ ] that's. going on. You know what I'm saying? These files is out. It's a lot of crazy. [ __ ] going on. >> It would be. for especially for a black boy. How can I take advice from somebody who. tried to keep me down? Like you tried to.

push me down. Now y'all saying, "Okay, well that's. over with." So now I'mma teach you this, this, and this, but I I still kind of. got to take it with a grain of salt. >> Until my black father say, "No, that. that that you know what I mean? We just. cipher." Yeah. >> We cipher through that info. Yeah. Don't. trip. That's cool. You can learn this, you can learn that. This the curriculum. you should learn. Woo woo. But they very. aware, very conscious. You know what I'm. saying? Like I know a lot of the the, you know, stereotype of the black. fathers like he ain't around.

>> Yeah. he doing the most or he whatever. But it's like, >> no, bro. Especially I come from, you. know what I'm saying? Having a black. father that was always there. My uncles. always showed up. You know what I'm. saying? Like the teammates that I've. had, >> right, >> are great fathers. >> Wow. >> Okay. >> And it don't get talked about a lot. You. know what I'm saying? But it's like I. had I've had the most wonderful. experience. Like even now. it it is it's cool to me now, but at.

first it was kind of weird. I'm more. attentive. to a older man cuz I lost my dad. But. it's like it's a safe space to me. Like. there's so many people that walk down. the street, you see five black dudes on. the corner, >> paper bags over their cups and. everything. It's so many people that. that give them goosebumps. They they. feel weird. They don't know what they. on. >> Right. >> Feel. >> I my whole life when I see five men on.

the corner, this a safe ass corner to. me. You know what I'm saying? Like it's. safe. If my uncles and my dad is. standing outside this store, every kid. that walk past is safe. So that's how I. view black men. And it's like I see the. opposite when people deal with us where. they just like y'all inferior like no. >> their antenna goes up yours go down mine. go I put my guard down. Yep. >> I I go talk to old man in the airport.

dog. I'm be so chill. >> Had me taking [ __ ] off. I be done missed. the flight. [laughter]. Let's unpack. Let's talk. You know what. I'm saying? But it's a safe space for me. cuz I have my dad. You know what I mean? So I just I'm big on that. I love dad. dad [ __ ] that I do. >> How How's your mom doing? >> As good as she could do. Um, you know, that's a strong woman. >> [ __ ] She had me naturally. >> She [laughter]. Yeah. 12 lb 4 oz 23 in naturally said.

>> Yeah. >> She said uh uh. >> they have all the medication that they. got now. >> Exactly. [laughter]. She said um that having uh her grandb. babies around her and being able to look. up and see all four of her boys in one. room again. She like even though it was. because of that. She's like just seeing. y'all that was enough for me. She like. y'all ain't got to worry about me. >> You know what I'm saying? That's all I. needed from her. Like I I needed to know. I don't have to be worrying cuz I.

already know how it go. Like you lose. your loved one that you've been riding. with, they still married. You see what. I'm saying? It's like. >> you you your health could dwindle losing. somebody that been keeping you up. You. know what I'm saying? So I'm just like, man, just. >> I've seen it. >> She like, "No, they give my heart. >> the most joy." Like them little grandb. babies running around that she said give. them the most joy. They have a good. time. >> I My uncle and aunt, they had been. married, oh my god, probably 30 plus. years. And she got a call that said they. found him dead in his car.

>> Mhm. 30 minutes later, she had a heart. attack just like that and died. >> Insane. >> Understandable. >> Yep. >> But it's understandable. Like. >> cuz you've I'm sure everybody's had like. just, you know, some traumatic death. that's happened that you weren't ready. for. >> And we all have that human thought like, man, I could just I might as well go. out. Just take me. >> Y. >> just take me. I had as soon as I my day. out, man, this some [ __ ] Mhm.

>> I I don't know if I don't know if I. could deal with this one. Correct. >> You know what I'm saying? You get to. looking at the sky want to say something. crazy. >> and it's like I I could totally. understand somebody, >> you know what I mean, kicking the can. right after that. It's crazy. >> After watching a close friend go through. a loss a few years back, I saw how. quickly grief can turn to financial. stress. No one deserves that feeling I. saw him feel. And I mean no one. No. matter what I offered to help, it wasn't. enough. I promised my family I would. never make them feel the same way my. buddy felt. Trust me, that experience of.

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>> Come on, man. Your home life, you said I. want to play in the NBA and you win a. championship. You brought a championship. to that city hadn't won. >> Concerned that championship led to me. getting the ball I really was supposed. to get. >> So that mirror ball is where she proud. >> That mirror ball is in her house right. now. [laughter]. She love that damn trouble. >> Your daughters Your daughters was born. at home. >> Yeah. >> Um obviously your your ex uh natural in.

a bathtub. You were there. >> Uh-huh. I called both of them. >> What? What? Why? Why was that? >> The first one was accident. We wasn't. trying to The first one was not. >> That wasn't playing. >> No. No. We was We was Yeah. I was trying. to get to the get her to the hospital. I. don't grab the bag. Just I'm trying to. do this. She like, "We ain't making it.". I'm What? We What? [laughter]. What you mean we not going to make it? >> I ain't no I ain't no doctor. >> Uh but yeah, I can catch. I got good. hands. Yeah, >> I ain't no doctor, but I can catch. Uh.

yeah, I I ain't do nothing. She pushed. her out, but yeah, it was right there at. the bathroom. And then because we did it. that way, it was like, >> you know, R going to feel left out if. she got the [laughter]. >> she got the hospital burp. That ain't as. good, right? >> Uh so we had did it at the uh the new. house. We had a new house. Uh, and we. did it at that house. So, >> man, you might want to go on back and. get be a doctor. >> You know, man, you got this fantasy in. your head. [laughter]. Getting out of the life. Um,

>> it's crazy, man. You know, as an. athlete, I do like taking challenges. like that, but that might be a road. that's too long for me, Shannon. I ain't. going to lie. That's a too long a road. I don't want to do. >> I lawyers and doctors, those routes. And then and then the nerve of some of. y'all to do seven, eight years and be. like, I just don't want to do it. anymore. Like what [laughter]. >> what. >> after hundreds of thousands of dollars. >> and hundreds of thousands of hours of.

studying and knowing like you know how. to cut a person open and you don't want. to use it, >> right? >> You could fix what's going on. If I test. something up, you could go in and fix. it. You ain't going to use it. >> You just going to walk around. Yeah. What [laughter] you going. >> You going You going uh stream. What you. going to do to make money, bro? >> Have you got two You got two girls. You. You You want more kids? >> Oh, yeah. I'm going to have more kids. >> You going to have more? >> Oh, yeah. >> You want a boy? You want a boy? You want. You want a junior? >> I got to have a That's why I'm going to. have more kids. I got to get I got.

>> I got to get it. I got to get it. >> Got to have it. Got. >> you. Just your luck. You talking about. you got to have it. You going to be more. girls. >> That's cool. More girls is cool. I don't. really care. But we going till we get. that boy. [laughter]. We going to the boy come now. I'm sorry. Got to have it. >> Got to have it. >> Okay. What about this marriage? >> Uh I don't know if I'll do it um. >> legally. Like I don't want to uh sign. papers and all that. Like we going to do.

a contract. We going to do a contract. owning something that we both trying to. do anyway. Like I rather the contract be. about a business. I um if my mama at the. wedding we got married. [laughter]. >> If my mama was there it happened. >> It happened. >> for sure. But this whole they get to be. a part of it now cuz we went to the. courthouse and now we got to do this. now. I got to I ain't doing all that. >> What do you learn in your marriage? What. have you learned about relationships. that you didn't know? Because obviously. you you know you dated. Dating is one.

thing. Marriage is a whole different. entity. M that was a whole different. ball game. You like oh it's like they're. married. Ain't no such thing. ain't no. light cuz when you get that piece your. your her name and your name on that. piece of paper that's a whole that's a. game changer. >> Yeah. I think um see we was young so. it's like we was just young but I say um. I say the biggest thing I learned is. like when you get married you think it's. like a new level of love and it ain't.

a lot of people think you get married. and now like she going to love you way. more on the other side of this and it's. like hell no the real love the that uh. honeymoon moon love whatever honeymoon. stage. >> Yeah. The honeymoon stage is uh it's not. love, it's like. [laughter]. See what I'm saying? Like we thinking we. going the love come now in like times. eight. It's like no she love you already. if y'all at this point y'all already in.

love. You know what I'm saying? >> Do she still like your ass though, >> right? >> That's probably how where I'm at now. where I'm like gee. >> I'm thinking like with you get the ring, you do this, it's like you going to get. a whole new bounce in your step. It's. like, hell no. Ain't nothing going to. change. >> Is it Is it. >> It's a piece of paper. >> I was talking to someone and they said, "The thing is that the person that you. met when you originally met them. >> Mhm. >> they're not that same person in 6. months. They're not that same person in.

a year. They're not that same person in. six years. The only thing is is that you. have to adjust. They You guys have to. adjust to each other because you're ever. evolving.". >> Yeah. I think I'm done adjusting though. [laughter]. >> Come on. I'm being for real though. Like, >> how you how you going to be in a. situation too much you done adjusting? >> All right. So, I know it probably sound. crazy, but. I'm trying to speed up the process of us. getting to know each other. Like, if I'm.

dealing with a woman, it's like you fa. to see it all day. Like [snorts] I'm not. f to put on like I ain't told to laugh. and I don't know how long but I like I. get I will have to have two three months. separated from a person cuz they feel. like in that moment you ain't have to. tell me that. >> You ain't had to say that. You ain't had. to, you know what I mean? That was. harsh. But it's like no I'm done lying. M.

>> like. it's been where a woman has tried to. tell me to know my worth and what I'm. supposed to be doing. I'm like, "Oh, no. I'm worth doing what I just did. [laughter]. [ __ ] I'm worth it." Right. I I did it. You know what I mean? However, I did it. If it's an error in your mind, that's. cool. But I'm no longer discussing. errors in your [ __ ] Like, you know what. I'm saying? Like, if you process it like. that, you process it like that. But it's. like for me, I'm done feeling bad after. you tell me you don't like it. Like I.

used to do that as a I think that's like. my cancer trait. Like somebody could. tell me like, "Oh man, I ain't having a. good day." And then it's like, "Damn, I. don't want to have as good a day in. front of me. >> cuz I don't want you to feel bad.". >> You feel me? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Now you could tell me you having a bad. day. I'll rub your back for 2 minutes. Mhm. >> If we not trying to stand up and adjust. this behavior, if you going to soak in. it, you going to watch me eat a big ass. sandwich while I turn on this big ass. TV. >> I'm going to watch uh all the games, you.

be excited cuz we do feel bad. I'm a. cancer. >> And if somebody feel bad like, damn, I. feel bad, man. What can what I do, >> man? What can I do to put this person. up? Hey, you know, hey, >> but I did it already. I did it. >> So, you ain't trying to make nobody feel. Hey, >> I'mma try and make I'mma try I'mma try. Yeah, >> but I'm not doing the whole my day got. to get thrown away now. >> And I don't want I don't want another. person doing that for me. That's uh from. my kids, a person I date, my homies.

>> If you don't want to be here, don't. come. If you come and you feel like, man, I don't like the vibe here. Get up. and leave. Don't nobody care. >> I think I got that place too. That. place, too. Uh my daddy told me that. It. was one of my favorite quotes from him. growing up. He said, "The sooner you. learn that don't nobody care, better off you gonna be.". >> But he [clears throat] like, "You just. want to care. You want to outcare. somebody for what?" [laughter]. He like, "When it go down, you f to be. by yourself when it go down." And it's.

like when when they when that click for. you, man, it just be like you start. realize like, you know how many women. have detached from me? say we've been talking and they'll. detach from me for a couple weeks, maybe. a month, come right back and be like, [sighs]. "You might be the only dude that don't. just be lying for no reason." And I'll. be like, "Bro, for what? What I'm lying for?" Cuz you. thinking you lying and it's going to.

keep her. But when she find out the lie, you going to be sick and you lied cuz. you was trying to play it right for her. cuz you thought I'm showing you I like. you. I told a quick lie, made it make. sense. Everything's perfect. It's. dreamy. I'm like, "Yeah, that [laughter]. I done read the back of the book, dog. I. done read the back. I got the synopsis.". What What was that? Uh, Spark Notes. I. done did all I ain't reading the book no. more, fam. We ain't [laughter] doing We. ain't doing that [ __ ] No, no, no. >> Okay, let me ask you this. Public.

dating. I had Amber Rose on here and she. said, "Man, me and I are good friends. People thought we were dating. Where are. you on public dating? Would you ever be. because you were in a very high-profile. marriage, everybody knew who you were. They knew who she were, who she was, is. excuse me, not was is. Would you do. public dating again? Public marriage get. >> I mean I think it naturally becomes. public these days cuz it's like if y'all. seen me with a woman like. But I'm not I used to think like that.

though like where it's like oh man I. don't want to be seen. It's like, no, I. just be like, "Yeah, nah." If I feel. like going to lunch and y'all have. cameras there, y'all just got cameras. there. Like, >> if y'all say, "Is that your girl?" I'm. not going to answer y'all. Like, I don't. care to. >> You ain't going to tell if somebody, hey, man, how you doing? >> If I if you see me, if I get photo with. the lady 30 times, y'all could kind of. fill in the blank like, "Yeah, that's. his girl. That's his girl or she work. with him." But it's like, why am I going. to check my phone on a app? I gotta go.

through here, read through this, and woo. woo. Just because y'all trying to figure. out who I just went to lunch with, [clears throat]. >> that's too much, dog. Like even with. like me and AM, like me and Am hung out. And don't get me wrong, I ain't blind. Shorty look good. I ain't I ain't blind. I ain't say that. I say I I'm with you. when you're right. >> I a say that when you right. >> I said we went to College Hill together. You see what I'm saying? Like I see what. y'all see. It's just I'm I'm more used. to am's like am woke me up a day. like I.

ain't I ain't use my alarm clock. That. was that's her thing. Like she just a. mom. She's used to waking up the boys, right? So she come up there tell us, "Hey, the food ready. Come down." But it. was like she had a sweet voice, >> right? >> She could wake me up. Don't none of. y'all else don't nobody knock on the. [laughter]. ha cool. Everybody else knew. Can't. can't do it. T New York love you to. death. Don't come in here yelling. Don't. come here loud. Ju was in there crazy. Don't come here loud. Ray J act crazy.

Don't come act crazy. Real smooth. She. AM was real smooth but you know we got. photo on the beach. >> And it was like I just needed to vent to. AM. But it's like everybody was tweaking. out like oh I'm like bro y'all can fill. in whatever blanks y'all want fam. But. I'm telling you we needed to sit down. and talk. Like I needed to vent to her. that day. So it was like I don't care. I. see this taking a picture like I don't. care. That's really my people. Cam caught a lot of criticism that he.

says he couldn't be platonic friends. I. >> thought you was talking about eclectic. What do you think? >> Eclectic. Eclectic. Eclectic. Eclectic. Well, you got boy watching. You go in. the word bank with lady boy. Lady. London. Going to the word bank with her. It's crazy. >> He said I I I I just can't. He said I. can't cuz eventually I'm going I'm going. to be I'm attracted to you or X Y and Z. Can men and women be platonic friends? I. think they can. >> Oh yeah, I got a platonic friend. >> Yeah. >> Uh my best friend is Taco Sheets with me.

all the time. Like. >> even Keys like I be with Keys all the. time. We don't be on nothing. Like. >> they sleep in my bed if they want. Like. they done kicked me out. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not in there with them though. when they sleep, right? >> I have been plenty of times. This my. best. This is what I'm saying. Like. Yeah. Yeah. I got breast. I'm talking. about me and Kia got pictures with no. teeth together. That's Kia. Like I grew up with Kia. Kia. been doing my hair since I was in fourth. grade. >> Okay. Okay.

>> You know what I'm [snorts] saying? Like. [clears throat] I can go to Kia mama. house without her. She can go on my mama. house without me. You know what I'm. saying? Like taco. since day one in college. It's like I've. been with her. I've been with Al. They. free flow. Like sometimes I get into it. with girls all the time over them cuz. they can't believe it. Taco start doing. her modeling thing now. She ain't all. sweaty with braids all the time. So now. all of a sudden they like, "Oh, she's. gorgeous." And then they can't fathom. why you don't sleep with her. I'm like, "Bro, we shared meals.

when everybody was flying I mean going. flying home for holidays, the people. from Georgia going I'm like me and Taco. in here sharing little random meals for. ramen robin." Huh. >> You hear me? Like really trying to go. through it. And then I'm like Taco. rebounded for me dog. Like she don't. play basketball. Like she trying to help. cuz she just like we got to get out of. this. This sucks. Like. >> right. >> we I hate being broke. Me too. Yeah. >> You [laughter] know what I'm saying? Like I'm like if Taco in the bed sleep.

like we tired, right? >> Like we not on that. >> Hey, I've got I've got platonic uh uh uh. uh women friend. But I do I do like that. he said he ain't the one. >> Yes. And I ain't got no problem with. that. That's Thanks for telling me that. what I said. Thanks for telling me, brother, cuz cuz I don't want minds. around you then, [laughter]. >> but he told us don't I ain't trying to. be disciplined about it. And it's like. people have I I don't like that people. did go take that and try to make it seem.

like he was a weak. >> man or a weak mental. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, see, in this world here, this is a doggy dog. world, right? And what he did is he just. looked out for y'all and said, I ain't. going to take your girl or shoot at your. girl. just keep her from around me cuz. after a while that's going to happen. You know what I'm saying? That's like. bro that's player to me. >> And [clears throat] and the thing is for. me I I don't know. Let me ask you this. You said you could be friends with a. with a young lady. >> Yeah. >> What if your young lady was friends with.

another dude? You cool? >> Yeah. She going to understand me way. better. >> Damn. But you know how much uh how you. when you dealing with a woman that don't. got no male friends. like she trying to keep it super strict. for you. Do you know how much delusion. you f to deal with on your phone? >> She delusion you the friend even worse. Right. >> Other friend ain't got no man. She. giving all the advice. >> Yes. Yes. With no man. >> I just want one dude. Yeah. If you got a.

best buddy, step right up. You got a. best buddy that he's a dude. He got a. job. He take care of his own kids and he. pick up the phone for you. He give you. advice. Oh yeah. Sign me up. And where's. your dad? That that be my You [laughter]. know how you get the next question. >> You know how you get to dinner now, right? And you be asking all your little. >> Yeah. >> Patty Pat questions. Whatever. >> My question is time. >> What's your relationship like with your. father? >> I don't really mess with.

>> Oh, I got I got to go. I got I got to. No, no, not you. Okay. You know what I'm. saying? But she said that she don't. really me. She don't. >> Oh, she if she said it. >> Oh, but I'm knowing right now like. especially if she got like salt that. come with it. Like if she said I don't. mess with him, you know, I never really. met him, but it is what it is. Like I. just take it with grace. I still got my. granddad, you know. I still got If she. positive like that, yeah, cool. >> She kick it off like can't stand his. ass. What? Dad, what she do any of that?

Oh, I'm out. You can't pro. you ain't. going to be able to process nothing I. got going on cuz I had my dad. I don't. even know them triggers. >> I don't know what that is. Like soon as. you start doing that, it's irregular to. me. My younger self would lean into it, try and cater to it, understand it, >> but you making it you making it worse. for somebody cuz it's like if I like my. shoes white, you can't just come in. randomly at 35 and be like, "Hey man, it's okay when they you know what I. mean? They got that little yellow dust. on their little scuffs on them. It's. okay." It's like, "No, it's not. Hey,

I've been bleaching these [ __ ] every. day. [laughter]. You know what I'm saying? It get like. that. [snorts]. >> How would you feel [clears throat] if an. ex, I'm not talking about your ex, your. wife, but if a ex popping up on um on. podcast saying and things talking about, [laughter]. >> not your ex. Not your ex. Not your ex. Tiana, she don't count. >> No. No. It wasn't T that did it though. It was it was it it were my other ex.

But it it's cool. I don't be honestly. not. >> out of the blue. You would never do. that. >> Let me tell you this. Let me tell you. this. First off, I think it's kind of. funny that everybody, man, I've been. kind of taking advantage of it a little. bit cuz everybody been walking on pins. and needles since. I don't care that. much. >> Like the whole like Kayla like, oh, this. happened dated at this timeline and woo. woo. And I'm just like, >> why would you bring that up though? I. don't know why she brought it up. honestly, but me and Kay are good. friends. Like it's not like a thing.

where I'm gonna be mad at her because. she did that. Like she lowkey was just. speaking her truth. It was a funny. story. Honestly, >> I don't know why she did it. But. >> when you first heard it, man, cuz I'm. sure a lot of people didn't know. >> what that happened. >> Yeah. They're like, "Shunk, man. You. hear WHAT OLD GIRL SAID ON THE PODCAST?". >> YEAH. BUT it uh. I don't know. Like some of that stuff is. just like that be for the girls. Like no. dudes had we ain't have really no rabbit. hole to go down. It's like okay you.

dated her, she said this and then it's. over for a dude. For a female it's like. what happened first? Who this? Who? And. it just like I'm not a female. So I. don't know. I didn't take it like I. wasn't offended. She hit me up. And. that's what I do appreciate about K. She. hit me up and was like I'm so sorry. I. wasn't thinking. >> You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to. tell a funny story on the spot. Like I. did not mean to do that and I was just. like honestly G. Like it's all. everything's all over the place. Who. cares? >> Right. So you was cool with it.

>> As long as I can see my kids every day, I really don't care, bro. I promise I. don't. I tried to though. At one point I. tried, man. I did my bid. I'm done. caring. >> Did you see the Clifton Pow piece where. he was sitting around? He say he's. trying to find how to love someone at. the age of 70. [snorts]. >> Uh, no. I didn't see that. But uh. >> he said he didn't have any examples of. what love is. You're different. Your mom. and dad was together. >> Oh, that's powerful. >> Yeah. He said he didn't have anybody to.

show him what love cuz you I grew up in. a situation if you had food on the. table, you had clothes on your back, you. had a roof over your head. That's love. That's love. Ain't no Well, I love you. >> What? >> Yeah. That's why. >> Did you see the movie Fences with. Denzel? Denzel told him the same thing. You got a roof over your head. You got. >> I remember that. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That was a good speech. >> That's love. That's love. >> That's love for sure. >> So he's saying for someone to come up to. him and say, "Boy, I love you." Or. someone to say, "I love you." Or his. uncles and his father or grandpa. He. said he didn't have examples. So it's.

taking him this long to try to figure. So now he's trying to navigate on the. back end what he should have learned on. the front end. >> Damn. Um. or what he should have been shown on the. front end. >> It's crazy cuz I think I'm a lot like. you. I was. there's actions and there's like. [snorts]. there's approaches that for me is love. like.

knowing that like you ever seen when. they uh like the old movies and stuff. the dad comes home and like the kids is. waiting to eat. >> Yes. Yeah, that's how it was. Yeah. >> I've never seen that. My dad is like, "Kids got to eat." It's. sometimes where it be like I asked him, "Dad, what do you when you eat?". >> You know what I'm saying? He I eat. Don't worry about it. Right. You know. what I'm saying? Whatever he got to do, he got to do. But it's like.

>> to me, love is I got to make sure y'all. straight, then I'mma get me. >> You know what I'm saying? Like my dad. went out his way for that. Like y'all. got to go to school, then I go to work. But putting somebody before you, you. know what I'm saying? Just even having. the ability to prioritize somebody else. before yourself, >> it's like. >> it's cool cuz everything else in life is. like the mask on the airplane. You got. to put your mask on. >> the mask on first before you help. somebody else. >> You see what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> But.

>> my example of love for my parents, they. totally are putting my mask on first. >> Wow. And it's like for me, for me, that's. >> that was it's funny that you say that. cuz I'm I'm, you know, 20 years older. than you are. And my grand we couldn't. cut the cake until he got a slice of. cake. The cake just be sitting up there. and we [clears throat] just think like, damn, papa, where you going? Well, Tasha, I hope you tell Greg you want a. piece of cake, a piece of pie, cuz we. can't get it. We can't eat anything. until until. >> I know I could have dealt with that. I.

have took I'd have took the ass before. us all. >> I ain't going to lie, Sh. I have took. the ass for us, boy. You had me as a. brother. I'm taking that ass. I can't do. it. >> And so that that was the thing. And. that's how we grew up. We grew up very. structured. Hey, no. Hey, and you boom. boom boom boom. You walk these steps. But to hear you say that my father, >> the kids eat. Okay. Then I'll eat. >> Mhm. >> My mama too. >> Yeah. >> I remember one time not liking. something. I ordered some [ __ ] Didn't. like it. We done left.

I I couldn't eat it now cuz it's like it. just I don't like it. >> Right. >> And my mama knew I like I liked what she. was eating. >> Right. >> But she not eating chicken wings. She. not It was a lot of foods that we like. >> We get a some steak, some rib. No, not. steak. She loves steak. Rib tips. You. know what I'm saying? Some [ __ ] that. just pork and just, >> you know, for a man. >> Yeah. >> Man, she gave me her [ __ ] and I'm like, "What you going to eat?" and she like.

don't worry about it. Woo woo. >> And then like you know that was like I. was real young, you know what I'm. saying? It didn't stick with me. I just. ate like you know what I'm saying? Like. whatever. >> As I got older and my daughters do it to. me. Like luckily I'm like we got Uber. Eats now. >> Yeah. >> My food will be at the house by the time. we get there. Girl, eat my whole. whatever the hell's in that bag. Eat it. You got it. You a growing girl. >> I could just order something to the. house and be straight. But I really. thought about it like damn it was time.

my parents didn't eat. >> like y'all just straight up didn't eat. >> right and watched us do that and then. sat outside watch or or sat at the. window in the kitchen and watched us. hoop we arguing fighting all type of. [ __ ] ain't nothing in the fridge that's. why you took us to go grab something. So. I'm like what the hell is you going to. eat today? And it's just wild to play. the [ __ ] back and be like, "Wow, that's. that's that's love." Like you said, that's love. You want love,

>> that's love. >> Um, Country Wayne sending them skits. You. >> Oh, boy. Shout out Country Wayne, >> man. We had Country Way on. So, what. what's it like? What's it like being in. one of Wayne skits? >> Oh, roller coasters. [laughter]. >> You don't know when that [ __ ]. gonna drop. No, but he uh. Wayne uh I think does an incredible job. of uh.

absorbing the storyline from what's. naturally happening around him. >> Mhm. >> I mean, a little bit of it is, you know, everything that happened in his life. >> You know, the man got 10 baby mamas. He. 10 kids. I don't know how many baby mas. But uh. >> and they all live like close proximity. to him. He got them all like within a. mile or two miles from each other from. from here. >> But that's what I'm saying. Like they'll. tell you he got all them baby mas. They. going to tell you how taking care of.

>> he take care of every last one of them. >> They ain't going to tell you that part. They going tell he just out here just. doing anything. Like no, he got all his. kids together. >> Yeah. >> It'll tweak you out seeing eight of they. ass run up on your ass like like they. all these kids are like Yeah. Yeah, wait. till they all grown. I remember walking in with my brothers. and it'd be like there. Everybody be. damn your brothers like a bunch of grown. ass men [laughter] like but it's like to. have that family base right there in.

that vicinity doing them skits with him. man. It's like he writes that stuff. >> and can bend it on the fly and. >> he acts it out. That's my favorite part. about it. He pray before everything. You. got to pray. >> You got to do a big prayer. Mhm. >> First time. I ain't going to lie, Wayne. I chuckled a little bit. I I wasn't. ready. I ain't know he really. >> He really like that though. >> Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was like, you. know what I mean? Like he a comedian, too. You know what I'm saying? I've been. laughing at the [ __ ] So, it's. like he just But all right, we going to.

pray. Heavenly Father, I'm like, >> "Come on, [laughter] dude.". >> Boy did a three minute prayer dead. serious standing on his toes, voice. inflections going up and down. I'm like, "Whoa, this [ __ ] It's lowkey hidden. Like it's lowkey all right. Like. >> you got that Bible on the string, huh? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Like it start. feeling like that. And it's like. >> naturally when you know uh it's somebody. you dealing with that one um you know.

spiritually he's. you know what I'm saying he's a family. guy. >> Mhm. >> So he's just got his family around. He. treats his employees like family. Mh. >> It was very easy for me to accept a. script from him. >> Wow. >> Like you going to pray before we start, G. You going y'all going y'all going to. pay me a a check after we done today? Everybody else net 60 30. [laughter]. >> We'll holl at you.

>> Yeah. >> You in the NBA, you know we you know, I. didn't get I got all that. I'm like, they doing pay upfront. Uh. if he got shoot, hey man, I need you to. bring seven, eight outfits, shoot all our stuff and get up out of. there, man. If I tell him, "Hey, man, I. got to pick my daughters up at 4:00. We. going to start at 8:00 a.m. We going to. be out at 4:00." You know what I'm. saying? So, it's like with me, I I. because he says something and then it. happens. I I truly hold him at a high.

level cuz it's like it's been people. that have come up to me and say, "You. why you doing Wayne Skills? you supposed. to be doing movies and woo woo. And I'm. like, I don't think y'all realize how. much Wayne pay people. I don't think. y'all realize how. how much better it is to have some This. man do this 365. >> Mhm. >> How much better it is to have something. consistent that you can do 365 rather. than that one mega move. Boom. And then. nothing. >> Nothing. >> I'm done did plenty of things where I.

done came on set, did this, did that. Everybody loved it. I haven't talked to. them producers, director, nobody. >> You know what I'm saying? Ain't never. gonna see him again. Which is fine. I'm. not saying there's nothing wrong with. that. But to be a part of something with. Wayne where it's like every week or so, two weeks, whatever. It's like we're. still doing the job. And then he. accepted my life cuz I'm like, you know, I'm like, gee, I ain't going to lie. Sometimes ESPN call me, FanDuel might.

call me. I got to do my pod. You know. what I'm saying? M. >> my daughter's my guy. I'm like, I ain't. going to lie. I am going to like hit you. with the man, I can't do it. Sorry. You. know what I mean? He was like, "No, I. get it." He like, "The more you do, >> Mhm. >> the more I could play it into the story. line. The more we can make it to where. you promoting us, we promoting you, and. this is a good marriage." You know what. I'm saying? And it was like the way he. spoke and how calm he was about it. I'm. like, "Bro, this all makes sense." I've. been rocking with dude ever since, though. I ain't going to lie. >> That was the shot, you filming. You You.

did that. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. He over with. Rob down. Rob. [laughter]. Rob ain't coming back. G, >> come on, man. That got you up out of. there. >> Oh, Rob. Yeah, he he had to lay on his. mama's uh porch, [laughter] man. It was. I ain't going to lie though, Lita. I. ain't going to lie. That was an epic go. out, dog. I watched it. It was hard for. me to watch. When I saw Lynn in slow. motion, they playing the music. I stopped. I'm. getting emotional as hell. Yeah, this. this this. >> I ain't gonna lie. When we filmed it, I.

do want to tell y'all this. when we. filmed it. Uh there was a take that um I. damn near was sleep cuz it was cold as. hell outside and I still had to shoot. it, but I had these heat things. [clears throat]. >> So we sitting in between shots, they. changing one of the shots and. everything. I fall asleep low key. You. see what I'm saying? I don't know how. I'm a Chicago kid. It was cold, but I. was sleep. And it was late. Lynn came to do it and. she grabbed my like she grabbed me and.

start like pulling me like I let myself. just like you know what I'm saying cuz. I'm you know I'm gone. >> But then in the middle of doing that. [ __ ] she start screaming and crying. I. look out this eye right here. I look at. her. Shouldn't have did that. Tried to. close it. When I closed it, tears. I'm like, "Bro, I'm not hurt. There's. nothing wrong with you, [laughter] but. I'm sitting in a plastic bag laying on. my mama steps like and it was like just.

being like that and then seeing her it. would just tweak me out real quick. I. like oh no I don't like this. I don't. like this acting, man. I like this. I. don't like this. It got too real, bro. But she like she just went crazy with. that. But yeah, the shot was fun. [snorts]. >> Well, obviously you like you say you did. country Wayne. You did uh actually uh uh. the Shai auditioning. Is there something. that you audition for that you didn't. get? You like, damn, I wish I could have. got that part. >> Yeah. Yeah. I had.

Well, it ain't that I I ain't get it. I. just wish I could have did it. It was. this movie I supposed to do, but we just. scheduling wise, it just wasn't going to. happen. >> and I wasn't going to pass on the NBA. It's just hard for me. It's hard to say. no when basketball is involved. It's. just. >> So, is basketball still an option for. you now? Would you go if somebody. called? >> Oh, yeah. If one of my guys was like, "Hey, bro, get in shape. We need you. right quick." I'm like, "All right.".

That's why I didn't retire. Cuz I ain't. going to lie. They going to mess around. Do something cute in that all. I done. let Dame shoot. [laughter] You know what. I'm saying? They going to do something. cute with that Allstar game. I'm be Hey, Shuddy, LET ME GET IT UP. >> YEAH, LET ME GET IT UP. >> They going to bring the old times back. one time. >> Yeah, let me get it up. But I'm going to. get in shape. I ain't going to tell. nobody. I'm going to get in shape. though. Like I ain't going to come out. there and be bogish. I don't. >> I don't want to be fraud. I want I want. to really show and prove. >> Is there any actor that's giving you. great advice on sets,

man? You know, we think you good at. this. We think you got a future in this. if you just do X, Y, and Z. >> Um, Jacob Latimore. Um, and then Hannah Hannah Hall. >> Okay. >> Like, uh, me and Hannah, you know, Hannah was she plays Tiff. So, that's my. girl in the show. And she she got my. baby now. She got my she got my son.

[laughter]. or daughter. I don't know what it is. Son or daughter, one of the two. Um, but. Tiff, well, Hannah always be like, "G, you need to really like go do your. acting." It's like coach stuff like. really go in there and really dive in. But she like g like if you could do she. like I thought that you was just playing. a like you from Chicago so I thought you. was just doing yourself. She like to. know that you don't act like dude. >> She like you really should dive in and.

try and start developing accents and. >> like she do that randomly and just be. doing London accents and have to do [ __ ]. like she like you need to exercise it. And I'll be like, I I mean, eventually. I think I I will, but it's like I. Is it because of the girls right now? It's the girls. It's the Again, I I'm I. have a problem lying to my childhood. self. My childhood self, I designed. myself to be able to look that little.

[ __ ] in the eye. And I can't look him. in the eye and be like, I spent time. I'm gonna go do. acting wholeheartedly and act like I. can't talk basketball, >> right? >> You know what I'm saying? Like it's. tough to not be on ESPN talking ball. Like I'm going to watch these games. anyway. >> Correct. >> Like for free. I'mma watch them and then. I'mma argue with my brother like a m. boy, we going to argue the hell out some. [ __ ]. >> And it's like we [clears throat] ain't. gonna get paid for it. It ain't going to. be relevant, nothing, but we gonna do it.

every single day. where it's like you could do this or. you as much as I'll be sitting there. like oh I always fool you telling me I. could do that I'll be like. man the nicks in Detroit play tonight. right. >> they play tonight I ain't got time for. this man I ain't got time bro they damn. near the bad boy Pistons too this here.

they good this too good. I got to go. watch the game. So, I that's where I'll. be at with it. But uh if if I get. opportunities, even when I'm doing my. auditions, my daughters be helping me. >> Like, they cool with it. They grew up in. this. You know what I'm saying? They. mama still doing this. So, it's like. it's just not a passion of man, >> right? >> Where are you on the reality TV? You do. reality TV again? >> I never really did reality TV. I did. college heel. >> You don't think that's reality? I mean,

[laughter]. come on over, >> like I mean, if they can't if they came. to you uh do they have a a New York. hiphop, New York loving hip-hop or. something? >> Oh, like a loveing hip-hop, why would I. be on there? >> I'm just saying. Would you I mean I I. think. >> I just don't got enough drama, G. Like, they people interesting. I ain't going. to lie. Them people interesting. They. grabbing their phone, explaining they. self. >> Yeah, >> people be crashing down. They That ain't. where you are right now. >> I'm I'm really 35 out here. I'm f to be.

36. No [ __ ] Like I'm I'm getting my. my issues these type of drama I got. going on is eating a burger and the. onions falling into my beard, right? And. I don't know, right? >> That's type of problems I got these. days. >> And plus, you got you got girls. You at. a different place in time now. >> But it's just like I don't I'm I'm also. a dude. It's like, bro, >> I don't even want to argue, right? Like. now you throw me on Zeus, you know what. I'm saying? They allow people to fight. >> Yeah. >> Like cuz I'm not gonna go back and.

forth. We not gonna have no cute back. and forth, [laughter]. everybody going to replay it. No, let's. get down. We going to do that. We. probably going to be best friends after. we fight. >> Yeah. >> I usually befriend all the people that I. It's weird like that. Like I don't I. don't even want to be your friend if you. can't. >> We We can't do. >> No. No. Not Not your ass. Hell no. Don't. do none of that strong football [ __ ] I. ain't got time. All right. Trying to get. tackled today. None of that [ __ ] I I. saw your games. Do you [laughter]. I ain't got time yet. But but for real. though, I like when I get into.

competition or I get into that like when. I have usually a nice little quarrel. with somebody and we have a little. tussle, we become incredibly close cuz. it's like especially when going out. there in the battle again, you know, I. ain't going. >> right. You know, I can count on you. Yeah. Like me and J.R. me and J.R. done. fought a couple time. That's why that's. my dog, >> right? >> Like we and it be stupid [ __ ] like in. the middle of the game. Yeah, we in the. middle of the scrimmage, >> we going for a loose ball, go too far, extra push, extra push. But it got to.

the point in New York, they don't even. bothering us. You know, they just. >> Yeah, that's what they let them. Yeah, let them They want to be extra for this. loose ball. Go ahead, fight. [laughter]. That's like my best dog now. She my dog. He know ain't nobody fa to out out outdo. me for no loose ball paws. That was. crazy. Partner left. >> Yeah, [laughter]. >> partner left. >> The fan incident that you had with the. fan threatening to rob you in Indiana. because you wouldn't do an interview. >> I mean, do do you get do you get that a.

lot? Do people cuz I think sometimes. like. >> people have a perception they do have a. perception of a of an athlete and they. like. >> whatever they come up man we pay your. salary they just think no matter what. they you have going on you should take. time to sign take a picture or do. whatever they ask. >> Yeah. I mean the only thing I told him I. said uh cuz we was in there he was in. there trying to get this interview right. >> well before it was over with. The only. reason I stayed that long is cuz I was. trying to let some of the people clear.

out. They had everything blocked off. I. couldn't get the car to pull up close. enough, >> but I'm like, I can't walk. It was the. It was the playoffs. So, people think. that happened this year, >> right? >> That was in the playoffs. Uh Indiana. going crazy. >> Hallebertton going nuts. That's where. everybody playing. Uh uh uh uh uh. Damn. What What was uh what was that song that. everybody was singing? The Halib everybody was [clears throat]. singing it. Hallebertton. >> when they was last year when they. playing the Knicks and was beating. Who.

they be? >> What was What was the song? >> Hi. >> It was uh somebody's song. >> I know what you talking. >> Yeah. Like I can't think of what it is. >> It wasn't his name, but it it fit. >> You know what I'm saying? Uh but yeah. Anyway, Hallebertton going crazy. Everything going nuts. I I went out after the game. I'm like, "Wow." I didn't even think Indie was. going to be, but I I'm I know Indie cuz. I'm from Chicago. I've been to Indie. plenty of times. So, I'm like, "Damn,

Indie. I ain't never seen Indie like. this. This [ __ ] like. >> damn.". >> So, I'm having a good time drinking, doing all type of stuff. At this point, my eyes, my speech, this. is not a good interview, >> right? >> You know what I'm saying? Like, >> yeah. You done have a few You had a few. You done had a few. >> cocktails. And I'm having a good time. Correct. I'm having a great time. like. y'all just won. Like it's like why do. you want to do a super like like what we. doing? That's what he wanted right. >> for me and him to go. He like I could. set this up, bro.

>> At at that very moment, not at a later. date. >> That's what I'm saying. I'm like, you. not even trying to schedule nothing, my. man. You talking about pull it out right. now. Lock in right now. I'm like, that's. that's nuts, G. I can't really do that. You know what I'm saying? So I I told. him a couple times and then we got. outside and it was like I don't know. He. just I don't know what happened once he. seen me he f to walk to the car. It's. like he just start getting tough then. then he pulled that phone out. He got. even tougher and I apologize y'all. I. should have walked off wholeheartedly.

Should have just got right in the car. I. do not recommend people do what I did. cuz you never know what could happen. after that. I turned around. I had cuz. it was like it was too enticing like we. going to rob you. >> Where? Who you? That's how that's what I did. It's like that was dumb. >> Yeah. >> Like I would tell my son that's stupid. as. >> right. >> Why the. >> You already done walked away. Just keep. it moving. >> Like I'm like in my mind though cuz I I. had a few. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Thinking. stupid acting stupid.

>> I stand there. I look at him and then I. I realize after a while I'm like all. right. >> it don't seem like he want to do. nothing. This don't really need to go. left. I don't feel like guns need to. come out or nothing crazy. But I'm like, the only way he could beat me is with a. gun, >> right? >> And if he talking to me like that, I can. almost guarantee. >> you got a gun. >> Yeah. >> Or your homie got it. Somebody got. >> somebody got that stick. >> You talking to me. Yeah. There's no way. I'm looking down at the man like that. There's no way you talking to me like. this. Unless you got something that.

could remove me. >> So I'm like, you know what? I'mma get in. the car. I'm going to get in the car. I'm going go home. But it was like I I. was all the way cool with the video. until I saw that part cuz I'm like, see, that's the dumb [ __ ] And I got I got. kind of like they kind of like clap for. me for it. Like you see he wasn't scared. though. And I'm like no but that [ __ ]. ain't cool. >> That was low-key dumb. Like yeah it. probably you know got some likes. >> Yeah that's cool. That [ __ ] was stupid. man. He he really from there. You know.

what I'm saying? Whether I liked it or. not whether I could beat him or not was. irrelevant. He was willing to do. whatever for his pride that night. I'm. just glad. I don't know what made me get. in the car at the W, but I just got in. the car and it was like, thank God I did. cuz it's like that was stupid as hell. That that whole interaction was st it. was supposed to be funny, >> right? >> Like it was supposed to be a quick back. and forth. Like I'm like, man, whatever, dog. Uh. >> yeah, >> we going to rob you. How you go from. >> Girls, y'all get in the car. >> What? But y did it Hold on. Just for the.

last hour, you've been talking about. doing an interview and because I say no, now you about to rob me. Now you about. to you doing exactly what I did. That's. how it went through my head. Like, bro, you just I'm like, well, damn. >> You was just my friend. >> Like, we was dog. He was standing by me. for I don't know how long. I wasn't. tripping off the man. >> Yeah. >> Then I told him some other [ __ ] Uh oh, the thing. Everybody thought I was like. like on my way out. I was like Indiana. I'm like, "No, nigga." He said, "Uh, no.

I really need to interview. Woo woo. And. I was like, "Dog, you not getting it.". Like, this ain't got He like, "We we in. the playoffs. Indiana in the playoffs. You got to do the interview." I said, "Gee, you got to realize I'm with ESPN, >> right?". >> Like, I have to uphold a certain. standard, >> right? >> I I can't I just been drinking. I had a. good night. I can't do an interview. right now. I'm like, "Right now." But I. I remember doing like this. And he said, "Man, this for Indiana." I'm like, "Bro, if it come to my job, Indiana, Chicago,

Atlanta, you get what I'm saying? But I. done named about four or five cities, but we in this tone.". >> So when he got on here, I guess he was. just trying to turn Indiana against me. I'm like, "Bro, do whatever you got to. do, my dog." But you know how long we. was sitting here talking and I'm like, "Bro, I had a good time in Indiana.". Like, they was showing me love. That's. what I'm saying though. For him to. become angry at the very last second of. the night was actually quite random and. and low-key could have been scary cuz I.

I was having so much fun my guard was. down. >> Wow. >> The song was what the hell? >> What the hell? That was what the hie. What the hell? What the hell Burton? >> Yeah. >> What the What the Yeah. Going crazy. Did. you see Odell Odell Beckham said $100. million? Uh he went viral said $100. million doesn't last a lifetime. We know. in professional sports that five years. after person 70% of the players football. basketball after they leave the sport if. they're married they're divorced.

Five years after they leave the sport. they're bankrupt. What happens to the money? Where the. money go? >> They be spending it. [laughter]. Ms be spending. Like I done been around. moss that done had now granted I ain't. make 400 million like they making now. Right. >> You know what I'm saying? But it's like. >> I was broke. >> I remember broke. >> Yeah. >> Probably a month into when I first my.

rookie year. A month in. >> Mhm. >> Well, I'm probably two three checks in. looking at my account. I can't go broke. There's no way I'm going broke. But the. difference was. one, my brother always, him and my. financial advisor have been taking half. my check the whole time. So I never knew. how much money I had. I just thought. what I got in Bank of America. >> You know what I'm saying? I don't know. why I told you that. Y'all scamming. [laughter]. >> I'm going to switch banks right after.

this [ __ ]. >> Hey, know take every dollar out that. account. >> He don't know he is a he got bored. [laughter]. >> But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He just basically. like, "Bro, if you don't know, how you. going?" Like, if I if I'm looking at my. account and I don't see nothing but a. couple hundred bans, I'll never go spend. a meal, >> right? So, 100 couple hundred bans in. here. Like, why I'mma go spend a meal? And my for my man, it's like from going. to from overdraft and $20 in your. account, if that, you know what I'm.

saying? from going from that to seeing, you know, just six figures period with. just like. But then I noticed like all my. teammates, everybody lifestyle was. changing. All my the people I got. drafted with, they all just like it's. like they couldn't wait to be rich. I'm. like, [ __ ] I don't even know how to be. rich. I'm like, y'all went and got the the. craziest car you could find. Like, I. wouldn't even know how to start this. I. bought a Jeep. >> [laughter].

>> I had a gunmetal Jeep. I'll never forget. it. Rhino skin on it and everything. They like like Melo used to be mad at. me. Like something, you come up here. with this goddamn Jeep, bro. Like, like. I'm embarrassing him or something. >> He his Jeep was like for like a day off. >> Yeah. >> Like he like my Jeep for taking off the. doors and acting crazy in the summer. He. like, "You got a Jeep on a dayto day?". Yeah. He like, "Shump, you know, you. could buy uh Ben's uh this this this.". And I just like, gee, I barely even. drive,

>> right? >> You know what I'm saying? I just never. was one of them uh excessive kids. Like. even with shopping, I'm like, I don't. like looking like y'all. I was going to. go to Neman's. I was going to go to. Barney's or wherever else y'all went. >> Sachs. >> Sachs. But I'm like, three of y'all came. in looking like twins. >> Yeah. >> Y'all weird to see. >> All y'all did was buy EVERYTHING OFF THE. MANNEQUIN. >> Y'ALL Y'ALL MANNEQUIN BOYS. [laughter]. Mannequin man. Mannequin man. Like come. on, mannequin man. I can't do that. I. >> But I think the thing is and people like. look for look if if you make let's just.

say for the sake of argument you make. $100 million we're going to take 50 away. for taxes and just let's say for the. sake of argument with your financial. people and your agent they take 2 to 3%. So that's 5% total after that. So that's. another $2.5 million. And let's just say. you took care of mom dad and your family. and that's another 15. If you can't. survive our $35 million jump after you. done you got a bigger issue. You could. have made 200 million and you still. would have been broke. And then another. thing.

when y'all having y'all kids like moms. be having hella kids but it's like. that it's court system kids like you. can't have excuse me. >> no court system kids where it's like. while you're playing that BM is just. draining your account per month but you. not even seeing or feeling it cuz you. playing. >> cuz you playing. Yeah. The moment you. stop, you going to start feeling it.

>> Yeah. If you make Yeah. I mean, 20,000. 30,000 a month ain't nothing. If you. making 40 million, >> you not making 40 million and they. taking 20, 30,000 a month. And you still. got to pay private tuition, which is. another 15, 20, 25 a month. >> And you got I do numbers though. >> Yeah. >> I do numbers really well. It's always. been It's wild cuz even like I I I I did. see that quote, but it's just like he. was trying to basically I don't think he.

was saying. >> he ain't saying himself. >> Yeah. He just saying he could understand. how people mess up. And I think the one. thing he just didn't talk about it's the. kids, bro. >> Yeah. >> Is that's the real wrinkle. Like you can. honestly live as good as you want out. here, bro. Once you start having them. kids while you're playing. >> and somebody is taking that and then. afterwards you got to deal with that and. it get it might get reslotted cuz you're. not making as much anymore but it's like. it hit more now that it's leaving. You.

know what I'm saying? >> And then you got to pay for the. attorneys cuz you got to pay for yours. and hers. >> Yeah. >> Your way to get Oh yeah. You pay both. Oh yeah. And she going to get a she. going to get a nice one too. >> Yeah. But it's like that's what I'm. saying. It's all the all the things. involved. It's just like, >> and then the house, Sean, I mean, you. shouldn't buy your Listen, I You love. your mom. You love your dad, but don't. go buy them no $3 million house. That's. too much upkeep. >> Yeah. I mean, I My mama got a My got um. million dollar.

>> Yeah, but I'm saying get some I We got. something [laughter] We got something. that my my sister my sister them can. clean themselves that my sister cut the. grass. But if you got to pay for a. cleaning service to come in once, twice. a week, you got to pay for a lawn care. service to come in. Bro, >> when you done, like I said, when you. making that kind of money, you don't. miss it. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. >> But when money is going out and ain't. none coming in, >> Yeah. >> I tell you what, just keep pouring this. out and don't put none back in there and.

see how fast it go. >> You're going to be pissed. >> And I don't think And I don't think. people realize that. >> Yeah. >> You know, flying your boy, we on a. private jet. What? Private? >> Another one. That's another one. These. private flights. I know all the. Instagram girls taking videos and. pictures. All that that be honestly when. you get a private jet, like I used to be. telling man like, "Hey man, what y'all. taking pictures and show? Take. pictures." Now, if I ever get a private. jet, y'all better take pictures, videos,

do cartwheels, take a blanket home, uh, drink all of the pop on that. you better. use the [ __ ] out this cuz I don't do. private jet all the time. Like I'm not. big on private jet because I'm very much. so. >> I I kind of like how the airport goes. for me. Like I get there 45 minutes, drop my bag, you know what I'm saying? I. don't like to do like the greeters and. everything. Like I don't really like a. lot of people to talk to me. But if I. keep a straight face hoodie on, I could. just go and by the time I sit down, I'm.

going to be sleeping. >> Where you live at? New York. >> Atlanta. >> Atlanta. Well, all you got to do is take. Delta 1. >> What? >> They'll they'll take you around. You. don't even go in. You go. Hey. >> No. See, that's too much. >> No, but check this out. >> Too much. >> They put they pull you up to the side of. the plane. You bogus. >> You going to get into it with the other. passenger. >> No, I ain't going to get nothing. He. going to run into that passenger be. like, "What makes him so good?". >> No. >> Who is he supposed to be? >> I just paid for the service. That's all. >> Look, [laughter]. you pay, sir. Get you nice little Get.

you a nice little meal. Get the. chocolate. >> He's still coming in for Shannon. Look. at it. He said, "Yeah, let me get that. Del." But look, I I've never been at. some point in time. >> I don't need 15 cars. >> I don't I don't need a house in Miami. I. don't need a house in LA. >> I got a lot of cars. I drive. >> God dang. >> I try. I try. And my problem is I'm like. redoing them. >> Oh, you got resto cars? >> Yeah. >> Old schools, huh? >> Yeah. Sooner or later, I'm going to. start selling them like But I'll be. pulling up like when I pull up, people. be like, "Will you?" And I'll be like,

"Nah, this one just got finished. though." Yeah, this just got finished. It's. >> Listening that you talk, what did you. what have you learned about money that. you didn't previously know? [sighs and gasps]. >> My favorite thing that money do. is make somebody shut the up. I never knew money could do that. >> Yeah. And it in a lot of ways like not on some. like you talking and I throw some money.

and it's like I won't say anything ever. again. >> Right. >> But it's like. money is like uh. I had I had this friend that was like. complaining about some [ __ ] he had going. on. It was some [ __ ] he had going on and it. was valid, but I was in the middle of. watching something. M. >> So it became an annoyance that you.

telling your story about whatever this. is and how you needed this money and it. was supposed to come through and woo. woo. Well, I sent him that money and he. shut the up just like I wanted. [laughter] and we finished watching the. show that we was watching. But he. literally cuz cuz it really was a. problem that arose, >> right? >> But I'm like with me people always say. money ain't everything, >> right? Mhm. >> You hear that growing up cuz they trying. to humble you. >> Mhm. >> Money ain't everything.

But then in all situations in your life, all of it take money. Can't live in your. house without money. Can't eat. Can't take care of nobody. So. you damn sure can't be a man. You a boy. at this point. You ain't got no money. You're a boy. >> Uh. transportation. >> Uh. education. [ __ ] is all money. So it's. like when they say money ain't. everything, I just be looking like. I think that's what I learned about.

money. It it tell mother to shut the up. and it really is everything. >> I love the access that it that that it. allows you to have. >> the things that I can do for other. people like my family. I can take care. of my family. I mean I don't really buy. myself a whole lot of stuff. >> Yeah. You run out. You run out of [ __ ]. to buy. >> Yes. And at some Okay. After you've had. a Ferrari or Lambo, Rose or Bentley or. Range? >> You fit no Ferrari. You fitting a. Ferrari? >> Yeah, I did. Not long time ago. Long My. hips been done got too bad. That's too. low on the ground. That's too low to the.

ground. That was that was 90 93. >> What? You getting accustomed like like. Sha? >> Nah. Nah. HOW Y'ALL? I'M UNCOMFORTABLE sometime. driving my McLaren. Sometimes I be. having to like get my. >> I ain't I ain't big as Shaq. I know Shaq. can't get. >> You got shoulder. You a football player. You got. >> Yeah. Yeah. But I fit cuz I wanted to. fit. [laughter]. >> He dropped THE TOP ON THAT. IT WAS A. HARD TOP. IT'S A 512. >> It was a hard top. >> You remember the one Jordan had the five. the black one. >> All right. If it Mike had it, I get it.

Why you got it? >> Yeah. >> That black dude. >> Dad, that that 512 TR I had to get it. I. had to get. >> too. You had the cigar when you got out. >> No. No. No. My brother can't go hat. >> I was just, you know, you had to have. it. There are certain things, you know, watching Miami Vice growing up. Yeah. >> I said if I ever got some money, >> I want a Rolex. >> I wanted a Versace silk shirt and some. linen pants. And I wanted a Ferrari. >> Word. >> Want a Ferrari? >> That's crazy. >> Yeah, baby. >> I always wanted a what you call I wanted. a watch. I wanted it to be man. I ain't.

make one yet. >> What? >> I want to make a watch. >> Oh, you want to make your own watch? >> I uh I forgot what watch my dad My dad. had this watch that somebody gave him. He ain't want it. And I was annoying the [ __ ] out of him. [laughter] I was annoyed the hell out of. my daddy. I'm asking him about his watch. then tell talking about the other watch. and then talking about the flaws of the. watch and how and he was like, "Well, why don't you just make one? I'll wear. that one.". >> Yeah. >> And that [ __ ] kind of just stuck with.

me. >> So, it's like all the things that I had. coming when I first got in the league, that's what I used to buy. Watches. >> Yeah. >> But it was like it took me a while to. even realize that that's where it came. from. But I love watches. Like. >> I don't know why. And they don't got to. do much. Like sometimes it could just be. a plain Jane watch. >> Well, that ain't what you got on right. now. >> No, no, no, no, no. That's why I said. not this one. You know what I mean? Cuz. this one is a shut the up watch. [laughter]. >> This is right. >> Shut the up talking to me, gang. This is. This is Yeah, I walked through the back.

I definitely walked through the kitchen. in here. >> You were early investor in Uber. >> You got this guy. >> got and got right up out of there. >> COME ON, SEAN. DON'T SAY THAT. SURE. >> Soon as I soon as I seen they were. making a little money, I got. >> So you got to hold on to that for at. least 20. >> Well, I ain't know nothing about. nothing. I I was broke. They gave you. some money. Somebody said something. about that. Uber sounded to me like uh. you remember Rene. >> Yeah. >> And uh uh uh what movie was that? Bop.

Baps. >> And Baps and Baps. >> The man they basically was talking about. Uber. >> Mhm. What if you could have a private. driver whenever you want? >> It was like call a phone a cab or some. [ __ ] like that. Whatever. And when I heard a Uber, I'm like, that's kind of like [laughter]. [gasps] and I'm like, but wait a second. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man, let me put a little money in there. So,

I had put a little money in there. That. [ __ ] flipped. >> about two, three times. Well, I took. that money out so quick and bought. something. Why didn't you Why didn't you. Why didn't you leave. >> Leave a little bit in there? >> Yes. >> Cuz I thought it would drop like the. rest of everything else. >> But you had done made your money. Even. if it did drop, you just take I still. made my money. >> I'm saying I just didn't make as much. >> Yeah. Youoo. >> Yeah. I'd have clinkedked up. [laughter]. You know what I'm saying? That's like if. I would have knew about Bitcoin, I'd. have glowed up too. Just. >> Man, I had an opportunity to get in. Bitcoin, but I ain't know cuz I'm not.

techsavvy. So to to get into your. wallet, I'd have never been able to get. in my wallet. [laughter] I'd have never. been able to get into my wallet. And I. had an opportunity to get into it. I. think it was like $500. It was like $500. a coin. And the dude say, you know, because I know you, I'll let you get in. at $500 a coin and I give you. opportunity to get like 15 20,000 coin. I say, bro, I appreciate that, but I. can't I don't know nothing about it. Oh. [ __ ] [laughter]. >> Hey, I I blew it. BUT HE BLEW IT. >> I I messed up. I.

>> I messed up. >> I'mma own my I'mma hold my Yeah. No, >> I ain't know nothing about no. Like I. said, I had I couldn't get I couldn't. have got into the water. >> I ain't going to lie, that have been too. much. You You had way too much [ __ ] you. on your hands, bro. You That would have. been too You definitely wouldn't be. doing this. You wouldn't be. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I would have cuz. I wouldn't have been able to get into. the wallet. So, I'd had to keep doing. cuz without the wallet, without you. can't open the wallet, it's useless. You. got all that money just sitting at it. It's like your account. It's like you. got all this money in this account and. the government got your your comp.

frozen. You see what's in there, but you. can't get. >> I got the new I got I got the new uh. iPhone and I didn't used to like it, but. yeah, they got my eye scan. I can't do. no Hey, y'all ain't got to worry about. me doing no crime. They got my. fingerprint eyes. >> Uh you feel me? If they can. >> Well, you going to the airport if you. got if you got clear, too. >> Oh, yeah. They done got everything. You. done got touchless. You got everything. So, you ain't getting away with nothing. >> Yeah. I drive a Tesla now. [laughter]. Wonderful. I like how they think of.

this. Every time I forget a password, they be like, "You want to use your. eyes?" "Yep, you damn sure I do.". You want to save this password to the. wallet? I damn sure do. We had G Herbo. on Sean and we had somebody else on. also. >> And we asked him, "Is Derek Rose bigger. to Chicago. >> than Mike. >> than Mike?". >> Yeah. >> Mike's more to the game. >> Yeah. >> To Chicago. Just. >> we choosing sides.

>> Michael, North Carolina boy. [laughter]. >> We happy we got him. >> Yeah. >> We happy what he did for the city. >> Pool was born here. >> Yeah. >> And really did this. Like they followed. him in high school. >> Simeon. >> We followed him to Memphis. >> Yep. >> We followed him to the league. Then he. the youngest MVP. >> Yeah. >> And he brought that [ __ ] home to. Chicago. He held that [ __ ] up in. Chicago. Oh man. Poo is just [laughter]. I ain't going to lie. And it's weird cuz. I played with him in Cleveland, got to.

play against him. Me and him didn't go. get to go headtohead. >> until I got drafted cuz I lost in the. Christmas tournament. >> It's Christmas tournament. No, not. Christmas. The Pontiac tournament. I. lose in the Pontiac tournament. I lost. the round before, but I was supposed to. face him my junior year. We supposed to. see him in the championship. Chicago. Never got to see it, >> but it's like everything about. [clears throat] Pooh was Chicago, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago. We got to. witness it, see everything. It's like, yeah, you to the you went to the league.

and you might not ever get six rings. like Mike. >> But you really Mike will never be from. here, >> right? >> You know what I'm saying? Like it be. Roberts Hill. Like people don't realize. like when Pooh even when like we like if. he wear 150, you know 150 is buck 50 at. [clears throat]. >> Uh it's like a hat with a clock on it. Yeah. >> No. No. I ain't never heard of that. I. know what a buck 50 scar is, but I don't. know. [laughter]. >> 150s. Yeah. We had the 150s and [ __ ]. but it's like. we we wear 150s. Like most people look.

at that and be like, "Huh?" But Poo will. have a 150 on. He'll wear a P. But it's. like you can see you can be him for the. day. Like you can see yourself in Pooh. >> [ __ ] can't see theyelf in Mike. [laughter]. 66 black as hell. Don't miss a game with. it. You ain't lost in the finals, [ __ ]. I ain't never been like you. >> Never. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? So it's like. when you see Pooh, even though Pooh does. stuff that's so amazing, he's also the. dude that after the game makes his team. wait on that bus while he signed every.

autograph. Signed every autograph. Like what? Like. what make you such that? >> Yeah. I'M LIKE WHY ARE YOU SUCH A GOOD. PERSON? [laughter]. >> That's how I get to look at THAT WHEN I. PLAY WITH her in Cleveland. Why you so. nice? You know you the youngest MVP. ever, >> right? You got a little you money too. These people, you ain't got to do that. Not every one of them. >> He just so personable in that manner. Like uh I know for the longest everybody.

thought he was like too quiet and [ __ ]. but you grew to appreciate it cuz when. he speak it means something. It hit. You. know what I'm saying? Like I I always. >> I always felt like that. It's no. disrespect to Mike, but D Rose homegrown. short. >> All right. Give me your Rushmore. basketball players from the Chicago. area. We got D Rose, D Wayade, Isaiah. Thomas, Anthony Davis, Tim Hardaway, Antoine Walker, Q uh Pale, and Doc. Rivers. You only get four shot.

I'mma go. it. >> Mhm. I'mma go poo. Mhm. I'm going go D Wayade. Mhm.

You know, I'm biased, too. I'm biased. I'mma throw Q Rich in there. >> [laughter]. >> I got to throw [clears throat] Q Rich in. there just because like it's the same. way people don't understand like when. people be like who who your favorite. player was growing up as much as I like. Mike I'll be like JJ kid they be like. people be thrown off like why you what. >> they it just but with Q Rich. I was one of them guys that is like you.

got to 360 me the NBA had to 360 me you. got to get me the game got to be good. the jerseys got to be raw the crowd got. to be nice you know what I'm man like. sell everything to me. >> when Q Rich and D Miles used to. >> Yeah. shorty like as a shorty though I. remember mixing somebody get do. something crazy get to the cup naturally. just. >> the Paul didn't even recruit me.

>> right. >> you see what I'm saying but it's like I. was a hometown kid it's like y'all could. have got me off that alone. >> they doing that I'm like what is that. that's so cool. >> so cool uh so yeah seeing Q Rich um. the only reason I'm going All right I'm. going to say Q Rich, right? >> And then I'm going to put Will Binham up. there, too. We going to make a new Mount. Roar because Thrill mean so much to. Chicago. >> Will had crazy game. People I don't.

think people appreciated him when he was. in Indiana. >> You can't you can't appreciate uh Will. Bham unless you come to the ProAm and. let him walk the ball down the sideline. while everybody's standing up. He could. trade baskets with anybody in the world. And I I used to watch him as a kid. >> Mhm. Um, so shout out Will Binder, man. That's one of the dudes that when I went. to Tech, that's why I felt so safe. He. he transferred there. >> Okay. >> Um, and then played with Jared Jack. But.

>> that was a good way that was a good. selling point for coach Hwitt to say, >> you know, we got Will, you got Wills. down here, right? You know what I'm. saying? Like, yeah, Thrill down like you. can put me on the phone with Thrill. >> Yeah. So, yeah. Shout out to that boy, man. Shout out Shout out T2, man. Tony. Allen did a lot of lot of uh taking me. under his wing. >> It gets harder here now. I don't think. there's any argument with the two. guards. You get Jordan, you get Kobe, but there's been a lot of debate with.

the three the number three two guard, James Harden and D. Wade. You played. against both of them. I think you played. a half a year with D. Wayade in Chicago. when in uh Cleveland. So with the beard, Houston beard, Miami D. Wade, who's better? >> Yeah. Who's the who's who's number three. on the two guard? >> D Wayade. D Wayade. God damn. I mean, you know,

hey, you know, Beard was like that. >> That step back. >> I ain't going to lie. It's a It's a. preference for me. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Like D Wayade was a different type of. animal. Like that was one of another one. of my favorite guys growing up. Like. just because when I watched him at. Marquette, >> just some of the movements he did, it. was just like I think like that. >> Yeah. >> Like you know what I mean? Like yeah, he. performing at a different rate. He in. the league, he doing this, but I'm like. I did that, but we got we got what you. call it though. They could stay in the.

lane with us. Like when they got to. clean when they start having to cleanse, I'm definitely pulling that. >> Yeah. >> I'm like I can't do it yet cuz I got to. play the rules of high school. You know. what I'm saying? being younger. But. yeah, watching D Wayade, I haven't seen. so much Dwight film. Like you got to. think a lot of James Harden's whole [ __ ]. is shooting threes. That goes against. everything I believe in in Chicago. Like. being a Chicago kid, we is not allowed. to shoot threes. If you lost cuz you was. shooting threes, everybody going to be. we ain't going to see him play. >> He ain't got no will to win. You know.

what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong, James one of the top scorers to ever do. this, but it's like. >> if you going to show me a guy that. drives and go get it the you know what. I'm saying, get it out the mud that way, I I want to watch him. So, >> do people realize how the champion? >> Do do people give do people give Dy the. credit for how good he was before his. knees started to give way? So when his. from his rookie year until probably like. his second year with Braun, >> I think I think because of Braun.

>> CP, it it was a bunch of guys that. outlasted him. >> Yes. >> You know what I'm saying? Like. >> [ __ ] I came in after Braun. Braun still. outlasting me. [laughter]. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I had an. ACL blow my first year in that mode. Like how Braonn stay healthy is. unbelievable, >> right? But I think a lot of times DW's. greatness will get overshadowed because. people have had, you know, extens. extended careers. You know what I mean? Even even Melo is what 17 18. >> Yeah. Melo played about 19.

>> Yeah. Guys are getting up there in these. years where it's like before we was. thinking a good career. 12 13 years. It's like Yes. You was in. there. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. >> Like you did your thing. Excuse me. you. probably got the the fingers that go. different ways and [ __ ] like you know. all all the old players got the fingers. that's crooked as hell. >> all type of stuff but it's um but now 15. to 20 years is going to be common place. cuz you look at Braun at 23 but you look. at KD KD really KD got 18 even though he.

missed that year with KD you look at. Steph ain't slowing down. >> I can see Steph playing another three to. five years. >> no they look like. >> I see KD can play another three to five. years. >> n KD ain't got no weight on him either. I think that man could play to he about. 50, bro. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> KD going to be one of them guys like, you know, he still got like guys like. Cino Moy where it just be like, "Bro, you still hoop like that." Like, >> they just can't turn it off. KD going to. be one of them guys that's like 50 at LA. Fitness. He gonna let all y'all get. some, man. I can tell KD, that's going.

to be you, man. LA Fitness K. >> Uh Chris Paul, obviously it didn't uh. the way it ended. >> Yeah. you know, he I think he said at. the beginning it's going to be his last. year. And for him not to get that. opportunity, the the the Clippers moved. in a different direction say and they. they they traded him to Toronto. Toronto. basically say, "Don't even worry about. showing up. We're going to try to move. you." Obviously, they couldn't and so. they ended up releasing him. I hate to see great players career ends.

like this. I'm not saying that he was. going to end, you know, averaging 10. assists a game or being on the. championship team, but for it to go out. like this, y'all, it's it's sad. It is. Uh. I just how I process it though. He had worked his way into knowing. like I don't think Chris Paul was as. blindsided as everybody else. Like we. was all like what? How dare y'all?

>> Yes. But it's like if you know Chris. Paul and you know some of the top. players in the league, like these guys. ain't getting super blindsided. They. kind of have an idea in the summer. before they come, >> right? >> What it's going to be, what it could not. be. If this goes left, what do we do. then? >> I think the pride of not wanting to put. the ball down completely. bothered Chris. Like if you going to go. out and say this is my last year, it. kind of has to be a tour where you know. you're playing 25 30 minutes.

>> in every city and every city gets to see. you for the last time. I think that's. what he was. >> hoping for, >> but that's not how they envisioned. >> Yeah. He was trying to do right by the. fans. >> and they didn't allow him to do that. I. feel like that was messed up because. >> like right now it bothers me cuz it's. like CP at home. >> Yeah. He started out trying to play this. year and Anthony Edwards need a point. guard.

How dare you LA Clippers. That's how I. feel. >> The Houston Rockets need a point guard. >> No, don't send him back there. He just. left from over there. It's okay. >> It's been a long time since he's been at. Houston. >> No, it's okay. Let's send J over there. or something. J have fun over there. J. like wings. >> Clippers posted a tribute to Chris Paul. Chris Paul wife responded, "Girlby.". Say it again. The Clippers posted a. tribute video to CP. His wife like, "Girlby.

Shout out to her. Shout [clears throat]. out to her." That's called standing on. vintage, right? Yeah. Stand on that. [gasps]. >> That I mean, I have I don't have a. problem with it. I I think that. >> I I happen to enjoy when people call a. spade a spade. M. >> So it's like any wives that come in and. say what they got to say, she don't. bother nobody. She don't come out here. saying nothing. >> What happened? What? Why did it not go. the way that Chris Paul went back home? This was This is where he had his his. best years.

>> Lob City. >> Yeah. >> Why didn't it work? >> I don't know why it didn't Okay. I don't. know why they did it. I know why it. didn't work. >> Why it didn't work? >> Same way it didn't work in Houston. He need the ball. They both need the. ball. He need it. James need it. >> Right. >> The only way to make the players around. them good is if they pass it, >> right? >> But they don't play a game where. everybody can get their game on and we.

can make this make sense. So sometimes. they have to come out together. One got. to sit early. You got to play them in. rotation and then hope that they figure. it out at the end together. Right. I. think that around the league, people saw. it, they had to match up against it, beat it when they was together. So, it's. like when you see it now, it's like, hm. But I didn't think that when I saw. them rejoin forces, it's like now this.

time, now that now that they're older. >> and now that they're in LA and CP say. he's going to retire after this year, now this the year they going to go to. the championship and win. It's like. that's dumb. [laughter]. You know what I'm saying? Like that's. what I didn't get. I'm like CP say he's. going to retire. >> They didn't work out in Houston. They. trying to figure it back out. I get it. We adding Kawhai to the fold. >> But you remember we was laughing calling. it the uncction. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Like that's. what they was calling the uncction.

Everybody a uncle around this movie, right? >> You know what I mean? I like Zubac. I. like what they had going on, >> right? >> But it's like I ain't think y'all was. going to walk out here and win a. championship way. >> You know what I'm saying? If you. couldn't keep your body healthy 2, three. years ago, I'm even more worried about. you playing too many minutes now. Like. now I want to put you on minute. restriction to make sure your hammies. and your calves are good going into the. playoffs cuz you keep having a problem. >> So it's like when when you look at it. from that point, you don't see it as. they tried to do bogus. I think it just. they thought it was going to be doing.

better than it was doing, >> right? >> They thought they would figure it out a. little better. So when it came to that, it's like, oh, like, and I bet Clippers. Clippers probably did feel bad, >> but they got to do what they got to do, >> right? >> Still, it's still a business at the end. of the day. >> And that's why you seen CP on some uh I. can't I don't know if it was a pod or. interview. But I seen him laughing about. it. You know what I'm saying? Cuz he. like at the end of the day, >> it's going it's a business. Y'all not. going to stop the NBA and call timeout. and like let's figure out Chris Paul. first, right? >> He know they not going to do that. You.

know what I mean? He a professional. He. know what's going on. So, shout out to. Chris Paul, man. Even though you had to. retire the way you retired, however you. want it to be as far as a tour of you. going around and the fans appreciating. you, you earn that [ __ ] bro. No. [ __ ] Like, you ain't It don't have. to be in a jersey, the Kobe. It don't. have to be like that. >> Yeah. Everybody going to get that. >> That's cool. Show up in a t-shirt. [laughter]. Show up in a t-shirt, bro. And just go. in the just go in the crowd. And that's.

paying it forward enough, bro. Take a. couple of pictures with people, smile, you still CP, dog. Whether whether they. did you right or not, you CP on my soul. >> Winning the championship in Cleveland, you're down 3-1. >> Cuz the uh the the year before. uh I believe I believe if you have Kyrie. and Kevin Love, I don't think they beat. you the first year. >> I don't we that that's we we'll never. know. Um just like they say, well, if. Draymond doesn't miss games five, G game. five, you're not winning. But he was.

there game six and seven. But who know. you're down 3-1. What's your mindset? Because you you. hear the thing LeBron's like, "Look,". and Tyler said, "Look, we go there, we. win one game. All we got to do is win. one, come back, we come back to. Cleveland, we know if we come back to. Cleveland, they not beating us in game. six and then we got a game seven." So, what was your mindset? >> I ain't even have a mindset for real. I. was I was at that point just saying it's. back to the wall. So it's like I'm like. we gonna win the next game just because. it's hard to close out a series. Y'all.

probably going to let us steal the next. one, >> right? >> Then y'all was like y'all going to want. to win. >> in your building on game seven. >> Yeah. Like y'all ain't going to want to. play us at home. >> and win on the road again. So y'all. ain't going to be playing at y'all going. to take it if y'all get it. But y'all. going to be kind of chill knowing you. got game seven back home, >> right? But the reason we was so calm, Joe, when Braun was on that bus and he. was talking and saying like, "Cuz we. beat them here." Then they mindset going.

to be this, this, and this, and this is. going to happen, and then. and then we going to come back. We going. to do this, and then we going to come. back here. We going to be here for game. seven. And that's when we send ass home. And I'm looking like, [ __ ] just fast. forwarded. He just You just simulated. the season on your phone or something. short. [laughter] How you simulate a. season on on 2K? Oh, just simulate. Oh, road. But I I remember sitting down. thinking cuz you know we back there. We. we conversating. Everybody conversating, but I remember the plane getting extra.

quiet. It was either the plane or the. bus. But it was we start getting quiet. and I seen everybody in their mind kind. of just go like, "Yeah, that [ __ ] could. happen." Oh, bro. Yeah. Yeah. But it it. it was like he right. Yeah. when we beat. them, they is gonna do that. I wouldn't. want to win on the road again. You like, "Wow, you might be on to something." Then. Draymond got in trouble and got kicked. out the game. We played that game six.

and they wasn't talking. That was the. quietest game we ever played. Boy, we've. been talking [ __ ]. >> Cuz that game five, Kyrie and Braun go. crazy. >> Oh yeah, >> they go crazy. 41 and 41. LeBron had had. 41 points, 11 assists. Kyrie had. >> crazy. >> Yeah. And then they come back, game six, LeBron goes 41 and I think 16 rebounds. It goes crazy again. And so now you got. game seven. This for all the marbles, >> man. >> They had to 73 and N. They had only lost. like three games, four games all year. >> I'm telling you, when that man had. everybody sitting there puzzled looking.

on us like. we looking at him and then I start. thinking about it. Ain't nobody in our. league been through this [ __ ] more than. this man right here. This man no. coaching styles now. Like we preparing. for Golden State's basketball team. >> Mhm. >> This man talking to me about what Mark. Jackson had them do, but now what Steve.

Kerr got them doing and how we going to. take advantage of this cuz this is what. Steve Kerr's principles are. And I'm. looking like we playing Steph Curry. [laughter]. I'm guarding Clay Thompson, >> right? And you talking about principles. >> You talking about Steve Curry system. >> But it like it it'll take you outside. yourself though to be like, "Let me. think harder about this game cuz I. clearly don't know [ __ ] This [laughter].

[ __ ]. worried about they scheme. He not even. worried ABOUT THE PLAYERS." I'M LIKE I'M. trying to in my mind Steph do this bop. bop bop go I ain't going to yell your. [ __ ] out don't worry Steph but you know. what I'm saying he go through his little. movements whatever and I'm knowing okay. he going uhhuh he about to pass this. ball and then we going off the three. screens right soon as he hh he throw it. behind while he throwing it behind his. back I'm already closing in the space to. grab Steph and we going to go off of. every screen. >> right. >> Bron the type of dude that be like he.

gonna stop playing he gonna be guarding. over here he know I got to do that run. That man will stop doing whatever he. doing, turn his body and watch me run to. see like if you hit him even a little. bit, he's going to completely leave his. man and go cuz he already know what the. play is. Like you watch him in all the. playoff games, >> he always look around, look around. They. trying to take the ball out. >> No, don't let him go right here. Turn.

Get on this side. Get on this side. Like. he going to do that. Make him spin. around. Make him do this. Jump ball. happen. Oh no. Se come over here. Come. over here. I'm calm down. Relax. He. don't. Sean, get your ass over here. You. go over there. They be done tap the. ball. [ __ ] be right in your hand laying. the [ __ ] up. Like god damn. LIKE. [laughter] HOW DID HE KNOW? How did how. the hell did he know? Cuz his NBA career. is older than some people kids. >> Yeah. >> Like the [ __ ] is really wild. But you. start thinking about like he at 17 his.

man start working like a grown man. Like. at 17 we went to college. So it's like. now we're learning how to be, >> you know, uh uh you learn how to be a. young man. >> Like I was I was a boy and now I'm a. young man. >> He skipped young man. >> Yeah. Go straight to man. >> He skipped that. Straight to man. Which. I am the man. He went to being demand. So, it's like for him when he unpacks. and looks at a situation, it's like how. uh.

like how you know I'm a professional, so. you'll never come up to me and be, "Okay, today we're going to start with a. layup, >> right? >> We can skip that part, >> right?". >> You know, you could look at me and be. like, "All right, Sean, when you do. this, you going to be coming off. I want. you to snake the pick and roll and just. think about attacking X4 straight. downhill.". >> You could tell me that. I can go out. there and do it right away. Braun, like we come in the gym, there's people. that got to practice layups, people that. got to do this. I need to snake and go.

downhill. Braun be like, "We playing. uh. like say for this year, say he would. have to match up with, I don't know, uh. uh Detroit.". >> Mhm. >> No, cuz they they run stuff like the bad. boys. So when they do this, them two. bigs, I'mma have them bigs up every. time. They not going to be bruisers down. there. I'm going to have them up. So we. running horns action this whole game. He. be like, "What? We ain't ran horns all. year. Y'all killing off the angle pick.

and roll. Why are we running horns?" Cuz. he like I'm not going to deal with them. two bruisers, >> right? >> Not doing it. It's the first round. My. body will be completely healthy by the. time we play these people over here. >> Right. >> And I'll be thinking about it like, "Bro, are you telling me?" [laughter]. Yeah. And I'll be like, "Bro, are you. telling me that you have you're going to. abandon the game plan that our coach. just gave us?" He like, "Yeah.". >> All right. >> He said it, >> "Man, what y'all running? Sean, what are. you running?". >> They said, "Oh, bro. I I done been trust.

me. Jr. could attest to this, dog. I. have seen them call a play and that man. grabbed the board and say, "No." And. then Too looking at the [ __ ] like, "I. see. Go. Let's see it. [laughter]. [ __ ] T LOU BE LIKE, "SHIT, RUN IT.". YEAH. Run it. Yeah. Run it to death, too. Like, if they if they lose to it, run it again. Like, so it's like being. around that, like having that person. next to you in your locker room, they. give you a lot of confidence. 3-1, 300,

don't matter if you have somebody that's. like, "He is Chat GBT of the NBA, bro. >> That's bro. My my soul. This the best. way I could describe shorty. He is chat. GBT or G PT. Is it B or T P? >> Chat GPT. >> GPT. >> Yes. >> GPT. That's Braun Joe. You could ask him. anything. He know. >> he know the coaches. He know the.

assistant coaches. He know the player. development. I'm like, bro, you should I don't I. don't got the mental capacity for all. that [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? He. he talked about film. me talk. It was. funny as hell. It took me about a month. to get used to him saying x1, x2, x3, x4. I'm like, bro, stop with like, but. he is really programmed for this cuz. again, we went to school. So, we've. heard different styles, right? >> Different. He was never introduced to. that. Get straight to the point.

>> Make it efficient. Make sure we win. If. you don't win, you fail. That's how. Braonn feel about it. like and the way. he's able to approach it, it's like, bro, I got when I went to Sacramento, they was trying to figure out how I was. able to help them lead and do. everything. [clears throat]. I'm like, I went from hanging with Melo. to hanging with Braun. >> to learn from lead by example. >> and then learn for I led you by example, but if you don't get it, I'll come teach. it to you.

>> Right. >> I had never had that. Never had that. Most athletes once they ascend and. they're way better than you. Yeah, >> I'mma do it. I'll give you one pointer. If you can't do it, give it to me, >> right? >> Cuz I don't got time for you to be. >> right. >> We don't have time for your learning. curve. I need to win. >> Braun will give you the learning curve. Oh, you don't like it? Okay. Well, maybe. we should uh change the system a little. bit cuz he uncomfortable over here and I. need him. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I had never been around that type. of basketball mind. I never dealt with. somebody that had the balls enough to. look a coach in the eye and say, "I'm. not running that." He was the second. Jason Kid did it. Unbelievable. It. worked, too. Knew you was going to be a. coach, [ __ ] I couldn't believe that. [ __ ] The block. >> The block. >> Did Did you Did you see Did you I mean, cuz somebody shot a airball. Uh Steph. gets it. Pass it. I Iggy gets it. Pass. it to Steph. Steph pass bounce pass it.

back to I never saw LeBron. Oh yeah. No, I know. Two, three coming. Come on, man. You ain't supposed to see him. >> But I just knew he had it. >> Well, you better walk by faith, not by. sight. [laughter]. You hear me? Two, three on the court. Walk by faith, my boy. >> He coming. >> He coming. He'll be there. Take the. elevator. >> But he But. >> take the elevator. >> He was He's like, >> "Take the steps just in case." I'll. step. >> I'm going to go with both hands cuz if. you try to come up, I'mma block it with. this one. >> Yeah. If you reverse, I'm here.

>> I'm here. Yeah. Unbelievable. It one of. the most unbelievable block. He didn't. realize he did it. I told him he did it. after the day. I'm like, boy, it wasn't. this that was cold. Shorty, it was the. left hand just in case he got cute. >> Yeah, >> JR did an incredible job, man. I always. >> He ran him down. But I Oh, y'all see me. on tape all the time when I used to do. it. I would run you thinking you going. to get you a dunk. I'm going to take. away your power step by out running. I'mma run faster than you and I'mma. swipe at the ball. So, you got to move.

it away. But that slow down your. momentum. By the time you jump, you're. not getting a good jump, right? >> But you need a perfect jump for this. man, Joe. [laughter]. Ain't even close, bro. And honestly, if. you end up like Jason Richardson where. y'all make contact at the rim, it it. hurts. >> You know what I'm saying? That [ __ ]. hurts. Dude is He not supposed to be. that that big. Pause. [laughter]. >> Pardon the left. Yeah, >> but they don't make babies like that no. more. You know what I'm saying? That's. one of one baby. That's a one of one.

But it's like, bro, it. >> I don't honestly I don't know why Iggy. did that. >> Iggy a Chicago guy, too. I don't know. why you did that to tell you the truth. in retrospect. >> You think he should have dunked it? >> Shoot a jumper. >> Shoot. >> Shoot a jumper. >> SHOOT A [ __ ]. >> HE GOT A LAYUP, >> do he? Did he? >> He didn't. He didn't, but he did. >> You never have a lay. You don't have. [ __ ] If that's. >> you have the ball. [laughter]. >> [ __ ] you. >> How many other people that's ever played.

in the NBA could have done that? >> What a run. Chase down. >> Chase him down like that. Not that. [clears throat] one that and not in that. fashion. But yeah, everybody do that. I. think that's a that's a basketball most. most athletes know. Not I mean basketball players, but a. athlete like. >> Do people realize that he came from the. far side that he was on the he was over. here? I think everybody saw it. I hope. y'all seen it. [ __ ] At that moment, >> how loud did the place get quiet? It got.

quiet. >> We was on the road. That was game seven. Only thing you could hear is the bench. Oh, that that last two minutes was. beautiful. >> Oh, it was beautiful. It was so quiet in. there. You know how loud that place get? Place is [clears throat] a circus all. the time. That [ __ ] was so quiet. That. [ __ ] was so quiet. It was so weird. It. was such a good feeling to hear them. shut. Did you know like we got him now? Once he made that play because nobody. could score for the Y'all had gone like. 2 minutes before. >> I ain't going to lie.

>> Playing them light-skinned men, bro. I I. didn't concede no victory, dog. After he. did that, no m even when I checked in, I. was like attentive as hell, shorty. I I. wasn't switching screens. I wasn't doing. nothing. Only person I switched with was. JR. I'm like, me and JR, man, come. together. I'mma push Steph. He gonna. push me. play and we going to guard like. that. But it ain't going to be no. detachments. No, >> it ain't going to be none of that. And. I'm not switching with somebody that. ain't going to be for sure. Me and J.

looked at each other before before we go. out there. >> with me and you switch. >> Bet everybody else indecisiveness. It. ain't going to be my fault. Y'all, I'mma. run through a wall. If y'all see me. coming, I'm bet your money I'm running. through it. You know what I'm saying? Uh. but I didn't cuz we was playing Steph. Like they done hit so many big shots, G. and so many shots that it's like. >> that too. You know what I mean? Like how. you with that? You shot that, right? How. you shooting logo threes, brother?

>> That's a lot to me. Like I you know what. I mean? So it's like Braun blocked it. He did that. But it's like yeah, we got. to keep going. >> There's more things to do, right? >> You know what I'm saying? Even when Kai. hit the three, we was so hyped, but we. I'm like, >> and then you contain it and now you got. Steph. >> and you got Kevin Love. K Love out there. on him. >> and K Love. going side to side, front to back. And. that's what be crazy. K Love cuz that. let me know you was lying. [laughter].

The rest of the year you was just lying. to me. Get switched on to people. everybody. People just going by you. doing all type of stuff. Steph do it. though at the end. It's for the win. It's for all the marbles. STRAP. >> AND HE back. >> mirroring the ball, keeping his hand out. the cookie jaw. K Love is unbelievable. defensively. [laughter]. >> You might be able to do something now, Kay Love. But it uh Yeah, he got himself. in trouble doing that [ __ ] We laughed. about that [ __ ] though, man. Uh that's. what it take in a championship, bro.

Like you know, winning a championship, you just see some things that it's like. things that it's like you you you. prepared yourself for that person to not. be able to do that. But it's like, bro, I will do anything in this moment. I'll. do anything. I'll do whatever you say. Like LeBron has yelled things during the. game like giving out a command and I'd. be like, you know what I'm saying? I got. kids, shorty. I'm talking you. >> Yeah. >> In the championship. Oh, we was saying.

all type of [ __ ]. You missing a sign. What the [ __ ] Sean? What the you doing? You know what I'm. saying? But it's you don't even take a I. got you. I GOT YOU. SORRY. I'm so sorry. >> But I want to do good. [laughter]. >> I love you. Like, yeah. But it like that. was like being on the court for that. game though and feeling like everybody. together like feeling like if anything. go left like everybody doing it though. If a fight break out, both benches is. clearing, >> right? >> Y'all going to have to suspend every. y'all going have to forfeit this whole.

[ __ ] [laughter]. >> Wait a couple of weeks and we going to. have to come back and play this. But. it's like. >> that's how serious and how intense it is. in that [ __ ] like and then to be. on the road. So it's like y'all crowd. finally could be quiet so we could hear. >> Oh my god. We couldn't hear [ __ ] that. whole series, dog. I think for me. personally, I think the greatest LeBron. James we've ever seen is when he went. back to Cleveland. >> I forgot you a LeBron guy. >> I'm a LeBron guy. >> Wearing that goat head. [laughter].

>> I'm a guy the guy, man. >> I watched him his whole his the first. years in Cleveland and he was. phenomenal. He goes to Miami and he's. more efficient. He's shooting 55 50% 56%. from the floor. >> at D Way and Chris Bosch. But when he. comes back to Cleveland, >> he's at the apex of his superpower. What. he did when Kyrie left. >> and get back to the finals and then that. 2018. >> Lord Shump, what that man sh that he and. nobody could do that. Nobody is going to.

ever do that again. What he did ending. when y'all lost game one and then he. goes crazy in game seven and then. Toronto. Oh, trust me. I was on the team. You. ain't got to You ain't got TO YOU AIN'T. GOT [laughter] TO SELL IT TO ME. You. ain't got to SELL IT TO ME. >> BUT BUT YOU YOU heard what David Griffin. said. My jury I wear my jury proud. >> But you heard what David Griffin said. David Griffin said the reason why you. guys were able to come out of the East. because the East was the weakest it's. ever been.

But why didn't nobody else come out of. the East? I I don't be when people throw these. random stats out here. This the weakest. of East men or this is this this is that. then everybody should be in the league. then. >> I I'm just trying to figure out tell me. why nobody else if it was so weak and. only LeBron because you had a 60- win uh. Hawks team that you guys sweat. >> But the West the West was just really. good. Mhm. >> So it's like when you have uh uh they.

dispersed the power over there in the. west pretty well. I think I don't know. how it got like that. >> It wasn't NOBODY COMING OUT THE WEST BUT. GOLDEN State. >> Damen Lillard. >> He wasn't coming out the west. Did you. >> I'm saying I'm saying the battle ro like. Braun having to deal with Jeff Teague. and Kyle Corver. >> You know what I'm saying? >> But they were the number one seed. >> You see what I'm saying? this Jeff. Teague and that's why he said the week.

was it was [laughter]. >> I'm not and and Teague my homie you know. what I'm saying but I'm being factual in. this where it's just like. >> what about D Rose what about LeBronto. Toronto. >> it's like when you in Toronto. Demar was a threat. >> but it's like we don't feel like it's. hard to win in here. >> right. >> like the Hawks didn't have a place where. it's like you feel like it's hard to win. in here it's like if you take care of. Jeff T don't let him do too. >> [clears throat]. >> Don't go under no screens cuz he going.

soon as he start getting it going. Like. if Jeff come out there and he pop you. once or twice, whatever. >> But if you go under and he feel. disrespected and that shot go in, you in. for a long night with Jeff T, >> right? >> But it's like if we play this correctly, >> we know y'all don't really have the star. power like Braun can go off for 41 and. 11. >> Who y'all got? Like it's hard to have. two do 41. Like Kai and Braun have 41. We ain't too worried about y'all having. two people that score 41.

>> cuz first off, one ain't going to score. over my dead body. I ain't having it, >> right? >> I'm [snorts] not having it. So where the. 41 coming from? You know what I'm. saying? So it's like to have two people. doing that. It's like that's why he's. saying the weak the the East wasn't. weak. It was weak to what team we had, >> right? >> Cuz our team shouldn't have been playing. together. Like I'll be the first to say. it. Braun shouldn't have been allowed to. come to our game, sit down on the. sideline, and then in a week I get. traded to the Cavs with JR, >> right?

>> How is that okay? [laughter]. >> I'll never forget that being like, "Why. did Braun come watch us play? We play. We with the Knicks." And Braun came and. sat down. I had never seen that. >> A NBA player sit down at an NBA game. that he not playing in, >> right? >> Like he has nothing to do with this. game. He's here as a fan. I'm like, "This is weird.". >> Yeah. He watching y'all see what y'all. want. >> I wasn't playing. I was I with a. shoulder injury. They said y'all traded. to dude. I'm like, "Huh?" Wow. H. then I guess.

>> Before you played with. >> I wear my ring on on a chain though. I. don't really wear like. >> Before you played with LeBron, did you. realize how good he was? >> Yeah. Yeah. It just I was forced to hate. him. [laughter] You ain't going to win. the rings every year. I'm in this [ __ ]. Just win all the rings, bro. [clears throat] I was big on that. Like. even when I bet Braun, I tried to do my. first couple. He laughed. He thought the. [ __ ] was funny, right? >> But he also respected. It's like, "Bro, I I just been. >> trained to be mellow homie." Like you.

and mellow homies, but I'm not supposed. to be your homie, >> right? >> Like I feel like Melo, if I if if I was. out and about one day in the summer, >> my second year, >> and I'm just out hanging with Braun, I. feel like Melo would be looking at that. like, "What's up with you?" Like, [laughter] you feel me? What's up with. you? Like, what's up with you, dude? So. it was like I had this loyalty to Melo. where it was like I had to get used to. being Braun being teammates, right? >> But it's like again once you on the. court with him. >> and he just out there making it easy for.

you, you just be like. >> like Melo he ain't so bad, bro. [laughter]. [ __ ] cool for real, bro. Like. I ain't going to lie, he cool. He passed. that [ __ ] though for real. Like we get. money over here. [laughter]. >> You and Kyrie are cool. Are you. surprised that Kyrie wanted to leave and. go get his own? >> Hell no. If you know Kyrie, Kyrie is a a. Kobe guy. Like Ky Kyrie wanted to beat. Braun. >> Mhm. >> And that's okay. Like people be like,

"Man, that was dumb. I would have.". Yeah, you would have. >> You would have teamed up. You a team up. type of D. You know what I'm saying? Like that's who you are. >> That's not Kyrie, >> right? >> Kyrie is like, "The only way I could be. crowned the best is to beat the best, >> right? I gotta go headtohead with you. I. can't team up with you. So it's like for. Kyrie and then picture. you at your crib, you know what I'm. saying? They give you a crib. You you got your. mama crib, right?

>> And then they just bring you a new. brother [laughter]. and then your mama like, well, he the. only one like you was the one that get. to have the house key and do whatever. you want. And now they Oh, no. You get. to drive the car, >> right? You you Yeah, we got a new. brother now, but he the only one get to. drive the car. WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? WHAT. MADE HIM A better driver than me? That's. how And it's like for people not to. understand that's what happened and then. be like, "Oh, he should have put his. pride to the side.". >> Why? What's wrong with that? >> Right.

>> Braun is great. Kyrie want to beat him. Kyrie want y'all to have to say I beat. Braun on the biggest stage of it. He. want us to be able to say that as a. competitor. What's wrong with that? >> I don't think that was going to ever. happen. Whether we think it's gonna happen is. not. That's the thing. We also laughed. at Kobe Bryant and said he wasn't going. to be like Mike. Y'all remember that? >> Yeah. >> Do y'all remember when he was wearing. eight and everybody was like, "This. little kid is crazy.". >> Yeah. >> Cuz he's shooting it terrible. >> Mhm. >> He's shooting it awful. It take. delusion, bro. >> Yeah. It's a It's a very fine line.

between self-confidence and delusion. That in itself, >> they was going they was going in on. Kyrie. >> that year, previous years before that. when he was in Cleveland by his goddamn. self, saying he wasn't that good as. number one, >> right? >> Maybe he's not that good. Maybe he. shouldn't have been chosen number one. Maybe his foot failed him. Maybe this, maybe that. He dealt. >> No, I think he should have been number. one, but I don't think they be honest. Do you think they winning the. championship and LeBron don't come back. to Cleveland? >> We'll never know, >> bro. You was getting the lottery. This.

what you not getting, though. Like I. said, >> yeah, >> Kyrie will never know. He had to leave. cuz Braun it up. >> I'm No, I'm saying if LeBron doesn't. come back to Cleveland, >> what does Kyrie get one? >> Yes. >> We'll never know. >> He's got one. >> It's kind of hard to say that when you. get Andrew Bennett first overall pick, you get Andrew Wiggins first overall. pick and you get and you get uh uh. Tristan Thompson. That don't look like a. that don't look like a championship. winning formula to me. Trump Shump when. Braun brought his ass over there. Mhm.

>> We beat them to kick off the season. >> We didn't think that was championship. [ __ ] When they came and got us and then. grabbed Mazy, I said, "All right, now we. got a chance.". >> Yeah. >> Once Timothy Mosgolf got there and I saw. him and Tristan. Then I'm like, "You. went and got me and JR crazy ass. Oh, this works.". >> He got Mosov 16 mil. >> Yeah. And then Mosgo Golf left and just. >> Hey, man. [laughter]. >> Hey man, people got people like gold. rings, man. They like it. They like it,

man. That gold ball special, boy. >> What make LeBron different? >> [ __ ] All the [ __ ] we just said. >> Because when I hear people like, "LeBron. want to be like." LeBron like really. want, "Hey, Sean, I want you to be a. part of this." Kobe like, "I'mma pack, man. You can't make it. Give me the give. me the damn ball. I'm tired of you.". >> Kobe didn't want to be like. Kobe ain't. have no friends. Kobe softened up as he. got towards the tail end. Cuz I know a. lot of people that when Kobe was at his.

absolute apex, >> he didn't soften up though. Kobe waited. until he retired and then he start being. nice. [laughter]. >> But people say, "Oh, I was talking to. Kobe when Kobe was with the in the. beginning, his first 10 years. I ain't. hear nobody talk about, oh yeah, me and. Kobe cool. Kobe giving me. >> saying he was an [ __ ] They [snorts]. said he wasn't going to be [ __ ] They. they told they used to tear Kobe up. >> They did. Even George, you heard him in. the ch in the All-Star game. That little. that little bit that little they was. playing though. They was playing.

>> But he but he's like uhuh. He got to get. it on his own. Don't pass it to him. >> Real talk. But it's like. that's that's Kai. I You have to allow me to hate you. You. have to cuz I need to know if I'm the. best. Kai will not concede telling. LeBron he's better than him. >> We might all know it and say, "Hey man, he's way taller. It's a bad matchup.". Bam. You toss Kai that ball and say you. got to play one-on-one with LeBron James. for your life. >> And I don't think Kai think he going to. lose.

>> I can agree with that. I can believe it. >> He like like whether we on the outside. like [laughter]. >> David and Goliath. >> You know what I'm saying? Whether we. thinking that or not, he don't give a. >> Yeah. >> And that's why we threw him that ball. and watched him do that to Steph Curry. Yeah. >> Cuz he don't give a. >> Oh yeah. >> He forgot. For some reason he forgot. Steph Curry got the championship. already. >> Yeah. >> He shot him dead in his face. >> Yeah. the unanimous MVP 73 and N said. what they got to do with me right now. you that what he said you how about that.

but it's like now he did it to Braun and. people was like [snorts]. I'm like bro that's that's that's that. is what it is man he went Braun one of. the greats Joe Braun going to be on the. rush more dog you telling me if I if I. would have had the chance to say hey man. I get to play against Mike for the. championship hell yeah buckle up we're. not teammates. Michael Jordan. What? >> I don't care. >> I got to be on the come fly with me. tapes. Hey, >> I got to show a [ __ ] I beat. >> I didn't want the championship. I don't. care who I beat to get it. >> You think you Let me ask you a question.

You think Magic Johnson took less. soulless in beating Philadelphia or or. the Pistons or somebody else for the. championship than he took out of beating. the Celtics? Or you think the Celtics. say, "Man, we beat the Rockets twice. It. ain't the same as beating the Lakers.". No. >> Yeah. It don't matter. But you. definitely if it if it was supposed to. be. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now, if I got to. go through if the Lakers had to go. through the Celtics for the. >> second. Yeah. It's like if he if you. ain't got to play Larry Bird on that. stage and Larry ain't make it, he would. have been mad as like.

>> you better get your ass out the east so. we can put on this show, right? >> Ain't going to keep having these media. people saying, "Oh, well, Larry didn't. make it to the show.". >> That ain't my fault. >> Exactly. [laughter]. >> That ain't my fault. >> Exactly, >> man. Why you got beef with Trey Young? Why you got beef with Ice Trey, man? Ice. Ice say after what he did to you a. couple of times. I guess you are. >> [snorts]. >> No, he was talking to Pat Bev. Him and. Pat Bev got into it. That wasn't me. Me. and Trey, I ain't got no problem with. Trey. I just when they had uh I had a. quote uh you know, I'll be on ESPN. They.

got cameras in my face and [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> No, but I had a quote. They were saying. uh you know, they were talking about his. value. >> Yeah. >> And everybody was like lighting up about. his value. And I'm like, I just see why. the team didn't extend him. Like I can. see it. I don't know why y'all can't see. it, but. >> they're not going to extend him because. they're damn near fa start looking for a. new direction. Like, he's a small guard. They tried it. He took him as far as. they could go. He's done a great job. Like, I didn't see nothing wrong with.

what I said, but you know, when they get. clipped up, >> Yeah. >> they say basically like I wasn't big on. Trey like like like he don't get nobody. involved. He don't. And I'm like, "No, bro. It's just the makeup of the team, the makeup of the league changed and. it's okay, right? Go get something for. Trey." And you know what they saw? >> And and this happens a lot in football. Quarterbacks don't let backup. quarterbacks take snaps because I don't. want you to see what he can or can't do. >> Yeah. >> Trey got hurt. And guess what? You got a. chance to see Jaylen Johnson. >> Now Jaylen Johnson giving you 2410 and.

eight as a 68 guy. >> And now he can guard the point. >> But but he can guard the point. And. Trey, you had to hide him on defense. >> Yes. But now you got Jaylen, whether. he's good at defense, it doesn't matter. He has the size. >> Yes. >> He can just go like this. >> You know what I'm saying? It's like when. you can do that and then you compare it. with Oh man, we can now switch a ball. screen and as long as the three, four or. five that we have in the game can slide.

as puppies, right? >> We can switch everything on the court. Y'all ain't never getting to the rim, >> right? >> You know what I'm saying? And it's like. for a GM, if you see that, I was just. pointing out what was obvious. >> Yes. I'm like, "Don't get me wrong, [ __ ] Y'all get mad. If y'all bust a. fantasy draft and you leave Trey Young. sitting right there, I'm snatching him. Come on, Trey. You come play WITH US.". HUH? WHAT? COME PLAY WITH US. YEAH, but. why do why do people get emotional over. [ __ ] like that? >> But Sean, you guys, same thing. Professional athletes says, "I want.

professional athletes to critique. professional athletes." And then when. professional athletes critique them and. they don't like what they say, now he. need to shut up. >> Yeah. Uh, it's a double-edged sword, man. Some. guys, some guys that they'll get into it. about it, but for the most part, when we. see guys in the summer, you're able to. talk. We all grown ass men, man. If I. ever say something, dog, y'all got an. issue. Y'all know y'all come holler at. me. Giannis done came hollered at me. Uh, I said some [ __ ] Me and my brother. was just going off laughing and [ __ ] He.

said, "Hey, man. Y'all can say whatever. y'all want. Do whatever y'all got to do. Don't question my integrity for the game. ever again. I'm like, you know what? You. right. And I went on camera and you know. what I'm saying? Fessed up to it. Like, no. He came in and he checked me. But. then I wrote my PS after that. Like, but. he ain't say he ain't want to get. traded. [laughter]. >> He only checked me about that. He didn't. say he ain't want out of there. >> Right. >> All right. But it uh it's cool, man. I. think that you know it's going to. happen. Like if I'm going to talk about.

it, like sometimes you not going to like. what I got to say cuz y'all lost. >> Yeah. you ain't going to like what I got. to say because I don't see it that way. Like I I played point guard. They threw. me at 3 and D. I ain't like that [ __ ]. But they saw me as a 3 and D guy for. that team, right? >> Like [ __ ] I play point guard. I would. have did it totally different. So it's. like it's. >> tomato tomatada, whatever. But I I I. don't think that guys think I don't like. him. >> Like Trey is my guy. Him and him and PE. have got into it cuz they. >> just it just went back and forth too.

many times. And then it was like, "Well, play me oneonone.". It's like, "Yeah, y'all going too far. We got kids. I don't have time for. that." Uh, but it's like, um, Trey is. one, you going to have fun having AD. over there. But I I. >> Can you imagine Trey and AD in the pick. and roll? >> Oh, no. I know what time it is. >> Oh, he going to pick and roll. Hey, and. if he was doing what he was doing with. Clint Capella, >> that's what I'm saying. If all if AD. people AD been hurt so long, people. forgot what he looked like healthy. Oh,

I know what it is. He's talking 12 guy. >> People talk [ __ ] Like I'm like, "Do. y'all better realize who that is over. there, dog?" Like these injuries just. started. >> Yeah. >> Like this [ __ ] just started. >> Oh, he's special. >> Yeah. I'm like, "Y'all not going to do. this to AD." Like this is allstar [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> So yeah, I ain't I ain't too worried. about Trey Young and them over there. Shout out that boy. I I was just saying. I know why the uh Hawks weren't going to. extend. >> Yeah. KD, we've never seen a guy this skilled,

this tall. I mean, Dirk was was a guy. that was 7 foot tall that could shoot. the three, the onelegged three, but Dirk. wasn't putting it on the floor like. this. >> Not at all. >> We ain't never seen a guy this tall this. skill ever in the history of the game. And I'm not so sure. Now, maybe Wimby. Hey, Wimby. Wimby. >> check. Check got a handle. It's not as. crazy as KD. >> KD, but Wimby though. >> Wimby is on. >> But we had Lamar Holdm. >> Lamar Lamar wasn't shooting the three.

THIS GUY KD. >> he wasn't shooting the three like this. >> Not like that, but he was shooting a. three. Yeah, >> he was handling the rock, >> man. Look, I'm saying we've seen it. before. We've seen a lot. When Lamar. come out at Rhode Island, he was. special. Now he Now he could pass the. ball. I mean, you talking about a 611. point guard, >> but that's what I mean. I mean I mean. we've seen KD's body not as skinny. He. might be the skinniest version of it. >> for sure. For sure. >> But we have seen guards that are. exceptionally tall. It's just we've.

never seen. >> that can shoot it like this. >> I think K Slick plays his position. >> Most people that. are capable of what he's capable of try. and play a different way. >> Yeah. >> Like K let the game come to him. He. plays very efficient. Mhm. >> shoots the hell out the ball. Uh, and. tries to be conscious of like giving it. up so other people can get involved. He. likes keeping his weapons in. >> And he still he don't fall in love. He. ain't fell in love like everybody else.

Try to shoot three three. KD you run him. off the three, he'll get to the midi. >> Yeah, it must it must be nice to be able. to still shoot mittis, man. They they. >> they would man shoot the three. Either. shoot the three or get off the court. >> That was my game, bro. The midi that. historically speaking, that is my game. I played point guard. I like get to the. elbow for a pull up. When I went to. Houston and shot that pull up and got. taken out after that timeout, I could. not believe where the game was going. I'm like, is the game really coming to a. place?

>> Yes. >> I can't shot fake shot. Oh, I have to. >> fake it and step to the side to get. behind the line. >> Yeah, they like shot fake let him by. shot. They like, "Why? That's a shot. Fake shot." I'm like, "No, that just. HE OVER THERE. LIKE, WHAT ARE WE TALKING. ABOUT?" And they was looking me dead in. my face like because he went all the way. over there. Step back. And I was like,

"Wow, y'all are serious." They like, "Yes, statistics.". >> Yeah, we're going to win. Couldn't. believe if Kevin Durant doesn't join the. Warriors. >> They ain't beaten us. Golden State's never beaten up my ring. You it up. [laughter]. You it up. Okay. Real fault. First year was Steph up. Cuz I should have three rings.

>> Mhm. >> Kai halfed his knee. Caleb got hurt. My. shoulder popped out. And Jr. needed a. new back. We should have I I feel like the first. one we could have did if we was healthy. Second one we was doing. Anyway, we. would have got that third one and then. Caitlyn bring his tall lanky ass over. there. [ __ ] we supposed to do now? We. just learned how to defend all them, >> right? >> You going to add you? >> What a [ __ ] [laughter] What a. [ __ ] That was just so like we.

finally was like, "Yeah, we got a good. match up with them. We We know how we. matching up with them, >> right?". >> [ __ ] know. Ricky Hazen, is there is. there is is there an extent that guys. can go because normally you you play for. dinner, you got to go to they take you. to uh Ruth Chris or they take you to a. Mastros or famous restaurant and you got. to take care of the team. You got to. take care of the guy. I don't know in. NFL we have individual used to have. individuals. Now I think they do it as. an offense and a defense. The first. round picks, you know, you buy we go to. Mastros, we going to get them drinks, you know, get Louis, you know, we going.

to get them steaks, that lobster, you. know, >> media will boy why. >> Yeah. Is is is there an extent that it. can go too far? Eating too good? >> No. Come on, man. You shouldn't eat no. damn 30 $40,000 worth though. Well, you talking about like a team. dinner or you just talking about. >> I'm talking about Do y'all do it as a. team? The rookies. They don't be hazing. now. Oh, I get what you're saying. No, no, no. They not hazing with like a. certain item on the menu. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, they'll definitely tell you to.

clear the team. Check. Yeah, clear that. Cuz they low-key teaching you financial. literacy, right? Like we teaching you. what not to do. >> How about teach How about tell us not. what to do and nothing don't know 15. shots of King Louis at $200 a shot. >> Oh, no. King Louis, that's crazy. Louis. the 13, all that. That's crazy. Yeah. You get to doing all that. >> and then y'all buying the bottle of wine. that's $10,000. Y'all buying the Cas or. the. >> That's wild. That's wild. I think that's. up. But I I remember my team. >> my teammates uh No, Melum never made me.

pay no [ __ ] like that. He made me pay. for a dinner that was probably like. >> 7500. It about 7,500 for the dinner. >> How many was it? [sighs and gasps]. >> It was probably We probably had about. three four teammates. Excuse me. Driver. >> Hold up. Three or four teammates and a. driver. 75. >> teammates a driver.

Ell's wife at the time and her people. So it probably about 12. 12 to 15 people. >> You know that's still a lot, right? That's damn near $500 a person. >> Man, I watched this [ __ ] Melo get up. driver got over everybody like, "Yeah, I. I I'm got to take them back." But I. ain't he ain't never left me with no. check and [ __ ]. >> Yeah. But he just left like, you know. what I'm saying? I'm just vibing, finishing. They go, the girl come break that [ __ ].

right to me. So I pay it. I'm like, I ain't going to. let him feel like, you know what I'm. saying? I embarrassed him or nothing, but I was lowkey feeling it like, damn, 7500. Like, what we doing? Like. >> I'm like, do all the dentists cost this. much? You know what I'm saying? I'm. processing it. And then after I took. care of I believe the next day like. shorty came in there and gave me like 10. B cash. cuz he like I just wanted you to like. like you don't pay for nothing like.

>> he had always took care of. >> take care of everything. He just wanted. to see if you would do. >> Amari Amari take but he also wanted me. to understand like. if you take this many people this type. of check you looking at now. >> You know what I'm saying? It might be. 7,500. You feel how that felt cuz it was. you wasn't ready to pay it, >> right? >> Only be taking 15 people out to eat. >> You know what I'm saying? It was [ __ ]. like that that they did. He $100 million. man. You see what I'm saying? And that. was his second big bag. So it's like. >> hearing from him, hearing from Amari at.

the time, it was just like Tyson. Chandler. Yeah. >> They they just did a great job of like. >> they would make me do certain stuff and. I'd be thinking like, damn, this Hazen. [ __ ] going too far. [laughter]. Next day you come in, they you know, they bless you. Make sure you straight. I I I wanted to ask you one thing about. Kh when you guys had because uh K it was. KD's second was it second year second. year there and you guys LeBron played I. think his best playoff game ever ended. the game with 518 and8 I don't think you. can play any better than we had and you. guys they missed the uh uh George Hill.

missed the one and one is the game is. tied and Jr gets the rebound. >> I wasn't I wasn't on the team. >> you hadn't left the team then. >> I got traded I didn't leave [laughter] I. got traded yeah I was in Sacramento I. had plant fasciitis couldn't play. I had. to wait a year. So, I would basically. >> Yeah, that was a burnt year for me. Basically, in middle of the year, my. foot I had plas couldn't play. They. traded me while I was hurt. >> Uh, but yeah, I was sick when JR did. that [ __ ]. >> You call him?

>> Uh-uh. You don't call nobody after some. [ __ ] like that. I ain't trying to make it about that, but I was like I I just felt like he was. trying to do the right thing. Usually. his rap in the league was that he do. reckless [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> And in that moment he was trying not to. be reckless and I was so mad cuz I'm. like you are the 911 the broken play. >> Yes. >> It came to you cuz the basketball gods. was like he's going to know what to do. with it. And for that moment he thought.

he liked don't be that guy. >> Cuz he wanted to win that bad. Don't be. that guy that messed this up in the. moment. and he hesitated and thought and. I'm like, "You never do that. I've never. seen you do that. I've actually never. seen you do that." It was weird seeing a. confused face on Jr. I'm like, he. usually either you make a left or you. make a right, >> right? >> But Jr. >> But you're not indecisive. >> JR looked you dead in the eye and make. the decision. I'm like, I I didn't. understand that. And I was like, I just. wish you could have that moment where. that one moment back. But I wasn't on. the. >> I tell you what you were around for.

>> What? >> Insanity. >> Oh, yeah. I was jumping up. What was. that? What was that like? >> Too much for two weeks. >> Come on. [laughter] What you mean too. much for two week? L S was crazy, >> man. Had media hanging all in our locker. room, man. We getting interviewed butt. ass naked, dog. I'm talking about this. [ __ ] was crazy. Like, I ain't even got. time to all the way get right before. they in there. Asian media stepping on. your foot while you in the flipflops. G. like, J, come on, man. You stepping on. my towel. He Oh, sorry. Sorry. But they.

trying to get to Jay Le. Oh, come on, dog. I get to messing with Melo and. [ __ ] Like Melo [ __ ] don't even want to. talk to your ass. Uh oh. No, Melo used. to be liking that [ __ ] He was happy as. hell when Jay Le was taking all the. media. Melo don't like talking on. [ __ ] media. But and then you know, look, I'm glad he. and Kenyon made up Jeremy Lynn because. Kenyon like you shouldn't be wearing. Dre. That's not your style. But I I like. when someone says something and they. they they like you know what I was wrong. in this situation. I like when men be.

man cuz sometimes you know we prideful. Jump. Are you saying something? It. wasn't that big a deal. You don't think. it was that big a deal? No. Them [ __ ] was damn near crawling out his. head. His hair ain't making for no. locks. >> Jay Lyn know that [ __ ] looked crazy. He. just was trying some [ __ ] out. I like. Jay Lynn's response on Instagram. I. can't remember what it was, but it was. very subtle. It was very not what you. thought it was going to be. It made me. smile, right? But like I said, no matter. what y'all see, I ain't saying it's WWE.

or nothing because it ain't. >> But we are all in this league fans of. each other. Like you can't get into it. with a guy on the court, say you hate. him, f him, f this, f that. >> But I'm talking about some really, really good human beings off the floor. You know what I'm saying? Like shout out. to everybody parents and all powers that. be, but it is some great men in the NBA. So it's like I've seen a lot of [ __ ]. that I be like, "Oh, these two they. finally in the same room this summer.".

And they'd be like, "No, it's all good.". Like we can keep it hoop, we can keep. them mature. You're a defender. Three and D guy. No, I'm not. They told me to do. >> Yeah, but but that's that's how you cut. That's how you got the big paycheck. >> Kobe, Kyrie, Steph, or D Rose? Who. harder to guard? Cuz you had to guard them all. Kobe, Steph, Kyrie, and D Rose. When I first got in the league, Cob.

But if Cob not playing for a. championship. is not as much to deal with. But it's. hard to play against somebody you know. can shoot it. He can shoot whatever he. want. He ain't coming out. >> But you got to play efficient or you. coming out. I was a rookie. Um, I say Cove when I first came, but uh, out of them Steph cuz.

I feel like I could slide with all of. them. I I'm pretty much a fan of all of. them, but Steph don't really have a. package. Like, it's not like James going. to go twin cross, twin cross, twin. cross, and then it's a variation of. stepbacks. Kyrie might start his dribble. this way, but he might be doing his. breaks might be under the leg or behind. the back, but it's like a package. I. kind of know and get familiar with their. movements. Steph was one of the only.

guys that the moment I slid with him and. start a little bit figuring out his. handle, it was like you pass, run off. two, three screens, push me, now he wide. open. And it was like he not going to. let me. My gift doesn't work with him. Like I have a gift. I can slide. I can. do this with anybody. Like it's hard. You only get two arms. You not going to. cross me. >> Do you say, "Uh, not today, Steph. I'm. Hey, not today.". >> Talking [ __ ] Yeah, I'm talking [ __ ]. And it was like all in once. He's like,

"I'm not doing this with you.". [laughter]. Okay, Sean. You could you could play. Dunk. Good job. Now, I'm going to go way back here. You. going to play defense at the three-point. line back here? I'm going to shoot it. back here. And it was like I was looking. like dog this man is really reckless. Like. >> he really should because he really. >> Yeah, he'll come. >> that you got to pick up the half. You. literally the half court from the half. court on he's a legitimate three. >> I tell people I've Kyrie's handle is. better. >> Yes, for sure. Kyrie got the best.

handles I've ever seen in the NBA. >> But Kyrie's using his handle. >> Yeah. >> Y'all have never seen Steph's handle. Like he got a handle. >> Oh yeah, for sure. But it's like he the. moment he feel like, "Oh, you could play. defense pretty good." He's gonna take it. away from you. And that's what people. don't get about him. I'm like, "Bro, he. took they like, why you wouldn't guard. Steph? Cuz it don't matter for me to. guard Steph. He's not going to dribble. against me." Like, he cross he got by. Deli. You should have been guarding him. He's not going to do that to me. That's.

why he's the MVP. He's not going to do. it. He said, "You know what? You are. pretty good at that, but you ain't you. ain't going to get through three. screens. Not if Draymond the last one, >> right? [laughter]. or the second one or the first one. [ __ ]. it. He just I ain't saying you dirty, Dre, but you you did you the reason my. shoulder got separated that first year. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm. saying. >> When you told Jon that Jordan better. than him, >> you said when I told him that. >> Yeah. What about it? >> You told LeBron that Jordan is better.

than him. What did he say? How did he. laugh? >> He laughed. He knew he knew I was going. to say it though. Like he know that. [laughter] He know that. Even though he. is the great the great one, he know one, I'm a Chicago kid. >> Mhm. >> You know what I'm saying? Two, I am. I how LeBron. at the end of the game can pass to. somebody.

If it was my team, I wouldn't do that. >> I would. >> You taking that shot? because I. I'm gonna take the DNA of Mike. That's. what I grew up watching. That's the way. I like the game played. So, it's like to. see Braun defer sometimes and do certain. stuff. That's why I put him over. Plus, it's like. >> Mike never lost in a championship. So, I. was like, that's why. But it's like as. far as breaking records and accolades. and all the rest of this [ __ ] it's like. dog, I I've been giving Braun his props. It's just how you going to do that to.

me? How you going to tell my childhood. self I'm wrong? >> Right? Like, [ __ ] Mike saved my life a. couple times as far as I'm concerned. [laughter]. The world was ending and then Michael. Jordan put on a cape and we beat the. Jazz. What the is wrong with you? Like. my house was burning down. My and Mike. went out there and beat the Lakers in. 91. Like what are you talking about? Like it was all type of bad stuff. happening. >> I'm going to get you in on this. Give me. your 10ear plans. What's your goal? What. is We come back and have a conversation. in is 2026. So in 2035 2036 I come back.

and I have another conversation with. Iman Jumper. What's he going to tell me? Where's his life? >> Married. I should be. >> three more kids. >> I don't know. I probably have I'mma have. kids. I'm going to have a bunch of kids. >> Bunch. >> Yeah. I'm have. >> more than two. >> I'm just saying if it take too long to. get my boy [laughter]. >> have to go through some. You know what. I'm saying? Whatever I got to do to get. that boy is going to happen. I'm gonna. say that. Um, but.

I don't know, man. By then I should be, you know, hopefully I can get my own segment on. ESPN calling this stuff Grochump Street. a little bit bigger. Um, but I should. really just be like taking flights to go. see my daughters. Like Junior should be. hooping somewhere by then. >> You know what I mean? By then it should. be like. >> that was she now eight. >> 10. So I be like, man, >> she might be Hey, she might be headed to. the WNBA. She might be a one and done.

>> It's gonna have to be the Shannon. Yo, we got to hurry this up. I got a flight. You know what I'm saying? My daughter. play tonight. They play LSU. Like I got. to. >> What? You going to Yukon? >> I don't know. >> South Carolina. >> [ __ ] I don't know. I went to Tech out. out the blue for real. Like I was hoping. the Paul came got me. They ain't even. recruited. For real. >> Paul used to have some hoopers. >> They just had them raw ass jerseys and. they was in the cities. They had Mark. Aguire, uh, uh, Terry Cumins. I think. Dig Rocket Rod go to.

>> They was going to have me in that. [ __ ] That [ __ ] would have been. hard. It's cool though. It's cool. I. ain't tripping off of me. It's cool. But. yeah, I in in 10 years I should just be, you know, super girl daded out like like. I should just have a schedule based upon. my kids, right? >> I in 10 years I ain't gonna be on [ __ ]. for. >> anything you want to promote? You got. anything? >> Oh yeah, man. Make sure y'all tune in to. Shump Street, man. Uh me and my brother. been doing a podcast all year. Uh one of.

the things that uh you know, my father. really like that we got paid to finally. talk hoops, right? It just mean a lot to. me. If y'all ever need hoop updates, make sure to tune in to Shump Street. Pod. Uh we just weekly. >> talking hoops, man. Talking rumors. We. we we. >> we talk a little rumors here and there, but we keep it pretty hoop. You know. what I'm saying? Like we me and my. brother are not the type to speculate. and do stuff for too long. Quick takes. on everything. Um but we really do like. deep diving into the game of basketball.

Like we love it. >> The number one girl's dad. Here he is. >> Yeah. >> I [applause] appreciate you dog. >> You bro. Thank you man. So much for your. time. >> All my life been grinding all my life. Sacrifice hustle paid the price. Want a. [music] slice. Got to roll the dice. That's why. All my life I've been. grinding all my life. All my life been. [music] grinding all my life. Sacrifice. hustle paid the price. Want a slice. [music] to roll dice. That's why all my.

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