Francis Ngannou Calls Out Tyson Fury, Jon Jones, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, Dana White and UFC

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Sportsbook with code Shannon the crown. is yours who would you be looking in the. heavyweight division to fight next right. now I wanton a rematch with Tyson he. took me a little lightly so he might. come next time very heavy all my life. grinding all my life sacrifice hustle P. the price want a slice got the roll of. dice that's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life all my life been. grinding all my life.

the price want a slice got the roll dice. that's why all my life been grinding all. my. life hello welcome to another special. edition of Club sh Shay on the road I am. your host Shannon sharp I'm also the. proprietor of Club sh Shay and the guy. that's stopping by for conversation on a. drink well we have nothing to drink so. just a conversation today is one of the. scariest heavyweights on the planet he. holds the record for the hardest punch. ever recorded by the Guinness Book of. World Records he's a former UF.

heavyweight champion of the world a top. 10 ranked WBC boxing heavyweight. Contender one of the baddest men on the. planet I just nicknamed him the. cameroonian Conquistador you know the. Conquistador is no that's someone. looking to conquer new territory ah okay. conistor the Predator Francis nanu how. you doing bro I'm doing good sh man. thanks for stopping by man how you been. I'm been good you know been ping my. little my little. way how have your life changed see we we. going to give you credit for the win.

because everybody believed that you won. the fight um you got out landed in total. punches but you threw the harder power. shots you knocked him down something. that some of the other former. heavyweight SCH boxing has been unable. to do so what's going through your mind. you land this punch did you think he was. going to get up did you think you had. won the fight at that yeah yeah um. leading going up to into that fight I. was very prepared I know how tough he is. you know I have seen him almost dead and.

I wasn't going there to KN him out you. know like okay whatever happened because. usually when you think somebody is going. to stay down and then he comes up that. takes something out of you you know like. I didn't want to have all kind of like. hope uh empty hope so I'm like this. fight is going to the decision you know. and um during the entire fight I was. just thinking to uh to the 10 of the 10. on the 10 round like don't overdo don't.

find the big the big punch right just. keep the pace you know and that's how I. do did you think you could win a. decision over a heavyweight champion or. did you feel you needed to knock him out. did you think you could get a decision. yeah I believe in it I mean that's why I. train I train for 10 Rounds I mean to. get there and um get to in the 10 round. and in the in the 10th round I feel like. I was even more fresh than he was you. know I was very prepared I I mean I'm. going into a sport that I'm I'm the.

underd DU massive underd du because that. was my first boxing match and I'm going. again the best uh the best in the world. so I was I better be prepared right and. uh couldn't just count on punches Power. Punch because he's good at. uh counter deviating punch so I wasn't. looking for punches at all like I was so. scared like to put Power and get tired.

right my main thing was not to get tired. before him right yeah you see that's why. I'm saying because you are such a. massive Underdog had you won that fight. that would have been the biggest upset. in heavyweight history that's bigger. than than Buster Douglas and Mike Tyson. that's bigger than any other heavyweight. fight that might have been the biggest. because like you said you never had a f. a boxing match before and you steps into. the ring with the Undisputed heavyweight. champion of the world and you beat. him and that's um that's why I like at.

some point even I get frustrated of of. the decision but I understand that there. is a system and you can just uh not just. be like a uh a single wolf and just come. and take the system down like that I. I've been into this business a little. while to understand that he works so I. knew even before the fight that if we. get to that point I I don't have so many. chance right right but um you know.

I wanted to prove my point I wanted to. prove that I can box also for me he was. a good experience to feel it to get. there I'm like okay I get this how do I. feel in the fifth round in the sixth. round in the eighth round you know all. those stuff and holding and understand. the game against uh one of the best ever. doing do it you know so he was very. important for me so at the end of the. day like uh after that fight regardless. of the decision I was still happy.

I feel very satisfied and yeah feel like. I have took a lot of love from them than. what they took uh from me what gave you. the confidence considering that you had. never boxed professionally that you can. get into the ring and I don't think you. stepped into the ring thinking like okay. I'm GNA have a good showing I think you. stepped into the ring believing you. could beat Tyson Fury of course what. what what gave you the confidence you. had never been in the boxing match. before uh you know life is not always. always about Theory uh if life life was.

about Theory I would I would have never. been here okay you know I wasn't um mean. to be here and uh yet I am so you get to. the point that you realize like uh it's. not about like um the uh experience and. everything like you understand that. something's something going on right. like if I if if I walk to the bar and. see a guy that is drunk and coming after. me that this guy never been in the gym I.

step back first to watch what his move I. don't sit there say oh I'm a pro. professional fighter no I step back. because if that got to land you might. find yourself uh have taken a. nap so at the end of the day regardless. of like boxing technique and everything. it's two men fighting and I believe that. I'm a man enough to stand in front of. other men even though I have a little I. have a little bit less experience and a.

disadvantage but I know that I'm a man. and I can. handle you had Mike Tyson who Tyson Fury. is actually named after in your corner. teaching you the ins the outs the. intricacies of the so when you go into. the he's a big man he's a massive man I. think he's 6' n you're 6'5 you were the. more muscular fighter and you said I. just wanted to make sure I didn't get. tired so I didn't want to put too much. into the punches and tire myself out but. you caught you counter him and catch him.

with I think a left to the temple yeah. did you see that opening did you could. you tell like I think I can get him this. this is the moment no basically that. that was even a counter that wasn't. something that I prepared but uh I saw. that when he walk at uh when he w at me. in the third round I think it was for. him a moment to finish the fight kind of. like okay we are done let's go home now. because when the fight started he was. like let's go to school and then we get. to the third round he's acting like he's. just going to walk me uh walk walk me.

down then I'm like I'm not backing. backing up so I put my hand up and wait. for him and in order to push him I have. to count him and then he get caught at. that moment so you that that he like so. what's going through your mind when you. catch him do you like man I just put I. just put not not really nothing I I. really because he wasn't a strong punch. so I know that he's going to get up you. didn't catch with your bears no no I.

mean he was a PCH that even hit his. shoulder first before hit his Tempo but. you catch him flush you believe the. fight's over if you don't glaz if you. don't glance his shoulder you catch him. flush with that left you believe you put. him down for to stay everyone everybody. will go down that one basically in the. third round you see fresh no everyone. will go down right in with with a clean. Shir so so what was what was it like. taking a punch from him because like you.

said I mean most of you look in the UFC. the guys I mean there's so many things. that you got to watch for in boxing. you're just looking for the hands now. you jab the uppercut the hook body shots. but in UFC you got to watch a knee a. elbow a foot you got to watch all that. and so most of the guys aren't punchers. like you are now they can end the fight. not a heavyweight because you got body. as you go up in 25 220 230 240 guys can. end theight minute more 2 250 yeah okay. 2. so what was it like taking a shot from.

from Tyson. Fury you he hits pretty good I mean. first of all like even in the uh in the. MMA like there's all those uh punches. from everywhere knee kick all those. stuff but punches they are not so strong. as boxer you know those guy have it in. inside to they have the speed they know. how to throw it everything heit pretty. good I I mean I ate some good Shir I'm. like [ __ ]. [Laughter].

you. know but have you ever gotten hit that. hard in a UFC. fight um I don't yeah I think so yeah. basically in the UFC is uh in uh in MMA. it is 4 oz gloves yeah um that's a lot. of knuckle though yeah. but was pretty good shot right I mean. it's good when you feel punch that mean. you are still up but the fact that you.

took the punch and you kept coming. forward and you didn't back down or you. didn't Retreat and give him confidence. like okay he felt that power now is my. chance is because you kept coming. forward um I was there to fight and to. win I. mean and he he's the champion I have to. go after him right you know I'm not. going to see them I wasn't going there. to count you know because like my game. plan wasn't to count him or to survive. my game plan plan was to fight and to.

win you know to dictate to dictate my. own rules that that was the game plan. like I'm going to I'm coming after you. to win right yeah so in order to do that. I have to work you go TW you go 10. Rounds you're like okay H you get back. so what are you thinking do you think. you won the fight yes absolutely like. right at that at that moment I was fear. of Happiness right which I wasn't.

even putting in perspective to fight how. he. goes I mean one again once again it's my. first fight right I'm much worried about. what what is happening I'm very detailed. of like okay don't do this don't let. this happen how are you feeling are you. going to be good at the 10th round and. all those so I couldn't count at that. moment you know I was just happy I was. first happy that I made it uh there but. I'm like I won right but again I was.

prepared I knew that when it goes to. decision like it's going to be hard yeah. so at the end of the day I wasn't. surprised the only thing is that he was. quite obvious you know the different was. quite obvious there was a lot of there. was even a lot of thing besides the. decision that was kind of like okay well. he hit you with illegal elbow several. times he he hit me with the elbow once. um at the beginning of the fight um the.

first Contact not even two second the. referee was like break break you know. and from the moment that he started to. initiate the uh contact on his own then. there wasn't a break anymore at some. point I was like okay call call out the. break and they wasn't calling the break. so everything was arranged for him to be. comfortable you know I understand I was. just a single guy coming to take down. his structural effort entire business.

when you look at it he's because he's. such a mountain of a man he normally. leans on people and tires him out yeah. but because of your stature you were. able to withstand some of the Leaning on. him and you didn't get tired and I knew. and I knew that I knew that very well I. watch him for uh basically his second. fight against Deontay I watch that very. close and by the fifth round deont was. like exhausted like um like and people. I'm like oh he didn't train I'm like he.

did train but you don't understand like. I mean even when Tyson show up I think. it was uh 273 at the weigh in I'm like. he's going to weigh weigh him down like. I knew right and that's exactly what he. what it did and um so I was prepared on. that I work a lot on like uh my leg. still work some wrestling stuff so I was. prepared well you acquitted yourself. very well so when you get back to the. corner you get back to your dressing. room what did Mike Tyson tell you was he.

did he tell you he's proud of you what. did he say man no it wasn't even at the. dressing room like after the fight he he. carries he carried cimon flag was just. raising like the the new Heavyweight. Champion you know Mike he doesn't care. about all your stuff he say whatever he. he believe in and he was just out there. like the winner of the night right so. overall everyone was happy were happy we. did a great job uh everything went well.

uh leading up into the fight everything. was good you know it was a good. experience for everyone the team the. people the family around it was a pretty. good experience you know uh the first. time that I have I have my family uh. attempt to my fight I had like 30 family. member there sitting first row right uh. watching me fight you know my mom my. brothers everyone were you nervous. because you say that's the first time.

they seen you yes you're always nervous. when you're getting in something that um. comat not competition yeah because it. couldn't be it it could it could have. been like performing like a musician or. something you you will still be nervous. right when it comes to Performance you. always nervous but at at some point I. was just like let's give them the show. let's enjoy this who would have believed. that there will be. like the entire Village travel to come.

sit there watch me on the be B cream and. uh the show was massive gigantic like. never seen before right so so you had a. great so if if you were to and it seems. like you're looking to pursue this. full-time are you looking for a. full-time trainer or would you let Mike. train you or there something that Mike. would be or was this a oneoff no first. of all Mike is not a full-time trainer.

he come to to us but it's not like he. every in the training okay so you got a. full so if this something that you're. going to pursue you're going to have a. full-time trainer so are you looking to. do this full-time and give up UFC I mean. not UFC but MMA MMA are you looking to. give up MMA and just do boxing fulltime. or are you trying to do a Deion Sanders. and play football and basketball I mean. baseball. combination I can do a little bit of. both let's see let's see the great fight.

you know I think at this point of uh my. career I just won a big fight uh a big. show uh uh before I call it out so how. many how how how um how long did you. train for this fight like four months. months for this fight like this was my. first uh boxing match so uh usually my. training camp will be like 10 weeks 3. months Max but this one was different so. I know that that I have a lot of way to. go basically like when it comes to.

endurance you know uh condition and. stuff so I took a lot of time ahead. so you're talking about 10 three minute. rounds versus five five minute rounds. what's What's the diff What did you. notice the difference there's there's a. lot of difference you know like uh in. MMA when you're tired first of all it's. something that I have been doing I have. a experience I know how to manage you. know and in MMA when you're tired you.

can attempt a take down or lean on. somebody and act like grappling or maybe. trying to take him down just lean on him. trying to work a little bit and win the. round in boxing there's not that it's. where you better be able to stand on. your feet and move not only move your. feet move your hands you know uh when. those acid lactic uh start to get in. your hand then you're done or in your. feet you're done you better work uh get. a good train training come in order to. avoid that because you're not going to.

lean on somebody for 10 or 30 seconds to. rest to take a breath you know you going. to be going constantly stand up face to. face so it's it's different. so I like you so are you looking forward. so who would you want let's just say. some promoter came and says okay I don't. need a promoter you don't have a. promoter I don't need a promoter you. don't oh so you're your own promoter. yeah I don't need a promoter so gimmick. fight promotion. that that that's your yeah I can go.

promote with whoever have a fighter and. want to put on a fight I don't need a. promotion okay so who would you be. looking in the heavyweight division to. fight next right now I want a rematch. with Tyson you know uh I this fight bu a. lot of confidence uh on me uh in me but. also I think uh he took me a little. lightly so he might come next next time. very.

heavy I want to to feel it you know I. want a rematch but I think now that you. know what to expect you believe he's. going to come back better prepared but. you'll be better prepared because you. know what to expect from the previous. fight of course I mean uh I'm definitely. going to uh be prepared more put more. work into you know because uh I believe. now I mean I was there and I know that I. won and uh I know that even though they.

give him a victory he's coming now as a. challenger and he's coming now to. restore uh to Reish himself himself his. reputation you know so he's going to be. he going to come hard what what's the. big as far as training what's the. biggest difference between MMA and. boxing in your training camp because you. say you'd go probably about 10 weeks in. MMA and you went four months so you went. about you went four months you went. about 16 weeks in box so what's the. biggest difference is there more cardio.

in MMA is there more road work in boxing. what's some of the differences that you. notice it depend uh whether it's MMA or. boxing everything depend on the pace. that you're putting in if you start. whether it's boxing and then just go. there start throw heavy. punch first round you can. last right you guys out yeah same thing. with MMA okay you know like and then. basically like MMA if you uh go at. somebody trying to take down and start.

Force there stay there you guys are like. this after 2 minutes you have all the. acid lactic here you know it's also the. pace how to manage that okay because. there's nobody that can go like keep. this uh is 100% for like 3 minutes right. you just know how to manage it you know. so here all depend but uh I'm more I. have more experience in MMA so I know. how to manage that which in boxing is. something that I'm still learning you.

know like on this fight I saw a lot of. trick in the fight a lot of thing that. they were doing that was like okay it's. right it's not right he in the mirror. okay you know so they can Let It Go pass. what what about the weight cut I mean. how much I mean you're a fairly large. man I mean what do you walk what's your. walk around weight like 275 okay so you. so you go into an MMA fight how much do. you normally weigh m May fight I will go. 260.

250 maybe. 257 for this boxing match how much did. you weigh 265 okay so there wasn't there. wasn't a whole lot there was not a whole. lot of cut I didn't cut I don't cut. weight you don't cut weight I lose. weight during training camp it's not. like I don't do something specific to. cut weight I don't um. uh eat less right I just eat so all. these drastic weight cuts that we see. some of them MMA fighters no I don't do. that I mean when you're training uh.

twice a day every time you're going you. put in. everything come on man you're going lose. that weight you're going to lose that. weight so a lot of people thought the. fight was going to be scripted because. they see they see these exhibitions they. see uh uh Floyd Mayweather fight uh the. Paul brothers and they see some of this. stuff but I think early on they could. tell this not scripted this is real I. mean that's what that's what they said. at the some people thought at the and we. made it clear that this is going to our.

record yeah right if you lost you lost. it's like you're not 330 anymore your. 331 right is going there so uh and then. exhibition doesn't go on the rec in. exhibition you they don't need all those. official uh all those stuff all those. drug testing stuff because they know at. the end of the day is just uh to put on. a show I mean the fight was in Saudi. Arabia and you have Kanye showed up am. show showed up de la hoyya Holyfield. Cristiano Ronaldo Conor McGregor Vince.

McMahon Undertaker little baby perform. what was it like to see like you way in. Saudi Arabia this wasn't Vegas and we. understand that Vegas is the fight. capital of the world you're in Saudi. Arabia and you have so many big names. showing up to see a guy that's never. been in a boxing match before mhm to see. you fight yeah and something that you. don't even see in Vegas you know that uh. concentration of celebrity in one spot I. think. that was the biggest concentration of.

celebrity in one spot and listen like. even before that like uh when um when we. signed the fight three months out the. fight uh we start they started a promo. video a uh video music clip and then. that was the moment that you I realized. that no it's not the same it's not going. to be the same at all you know like that. V that video uh for the the clip we.

shoot it in Hollywood one week in. Hollywood just shooting a video clip and. now I'm like okay it's not the same not. the same at all we don't do we I never. do something like this right Ronaldo. gifted you $130 something, watch what. did that mean I mean everybody know he's. one of the most visible recognizable. people on the planet and he said. bro I think he gave me more than that he. gave me more than watch uh he gave you. more he gave you more gifts no I mean.

it's gifts is not always what somebody. gives you I think is the time um like. early this year uh right after I. separated with the UFC um I I left the. UFC early this year and then I went to. Saudi and um we were um they were trying. to make me uh uh meet. Cristiano and he didn't work out the guy. that say oh we have a dinner or.

something it didn't work out okay I. think it was full of. [ __ ] but um then we were in into a. meeting at the at the hotel uh. restaurant and then my guy saw one of. his uh his guy Ricardo and you I'm like. Ah that's Ronaldo guy and he went to him. and say hey Rick and started talk and he.

said oh um and then he introduced me he. said ah Ron Cristiano he a huge friend. of Francis and I'm like yeah maybe. another guy that pretend to know. Cristiano right so he said okay let me. call so he pick on the phone and call uh. Cristiano and say yes I'm here with FR. inano blah blah blah blah and then hang. up I wasn't sharing the other side of. the phone and then hang up and say yeah. uh he said we should come up he's at the.

pool I'm like yeah whatever but I just. followed the guy you followed him up. yeah like okay what's going to happen. he's not going to chop my head so. right then we went up to the pool and. yes Cristiano was there with his wife. his daughter and stuff he was in the. short and we. introduced because to be honest I wasn't. expecting I wouldn't be surprised if. Ronaldo say hey who is this I wouldn't.

be surprised that he didn't know me. right and then you I'm like hey what's. up Cham and started talk started talk. and I find found out that he knows a lot. about me he knows my story he knows my. fight he was giving me detail about the. fight like how I fight this guy what how. can I fight this guy which one is better. between this guy and this guy if I fight. sty I'm like well how come do you know. much and he said we wake my family and I.

we went down every time when you fight. to watch your fight and I we were. standing next to the pool like this. talking for like uh 40 40 minutes at. least and I think that was more than a. watch right right and just just the. interaction the interaction and he was. giving me advice the reason why he took. this decision why I did this people. don't understand they think this but I. did this because of this on like wow you. know you have to know the man not the.

public F figure him himself and. understand his mind and I'm like it's. very interesting and he was giving me. some some advice and um at the end you. know he was so genuine that at the end I. was like I can't live without having my. picture with chisan right I got get a. proof I'm like um but I was still little. embarrassed to talk about picture and. I'm like yeah no no worry let's go and. then he put his shirt on uh we went to.

on the shet and started take picture and. like okay let's do face off and he was. laughing hugging me right you look at. that picture he seems like we know we. know each other for years he was our. first time meeting he was this is how. genuine he was and then I was going to. save my picture for whenever I going to. post it is my picture with. Cristiano couple hours after I found a. picture I just find uh my the. notification on my phone started.

like I'm like what the hell is going on. I check Christiano post post that. picture and say uh was happy to meet you. today uh CH friend in Gano all this. stuff blah blah blah that's when I post. mine that was way more than a. watch what what some what was some of. the best advice that you've gotten being. in that situation because you got. exposed to a lot of different things. that you didn't get exposed to in the. MMA by taking this fight with T Tyson.

Fury so what was some of the things that. people have reached out and giving you. advice about moving forward uh listen. most of the time basically when you're. doing something that people don't. understand your decision it's not about. advice uh people will always be uh most. people some people will support you. people that are on your side will. support you even when even when they. disagree with you right they still. support you because is you all right um.

but as far as advice who was the guy. that really believe in it in order to. give you advice everybody like um I. don't know about that right so and then. you have to deal yourself to yourself. you have to have this self conversation. with yourself like okay am I good yeah. that was my decision I wanted this I. wanted this I'm doing this and at the. end of the day what could be worse maybe. for me me the worst is not to try the. worst is not to try and fail so I don't.

care I'm getting into the position that. nobody have ever expect expect me to get. there I'm doing something that is. uncomfortable for everyone I'm taking a. risk this challenge I could have just. say in MMA I'm more comfortable there. and this but I'm taking a challenge. right at the end of the day what I want. to tell my kid is that I dare right. that's all what matter. would you Deontay Wilder obviously he.

fought Tyson Fury TW uh three times I. think three times um they had a draw um. and then Fury beat him the last two. times would you be willing to fight him. in a boxing match of course even before. this Tyson fight we were talking uh with. him like uh he he's also willing to. fight me in MMA now come on. Francis oh no for. real Francis stop why would you even. take that fight why. yes okay let me tell you why let's say.

he's not fighting me he's fighting. somebody else right I look at the. profile of that fighter I put my money. on the Hun basically I mean even just as. a boxer basically now that he's like. really intent to do that MMA and be. training on I put money on it because he. just need to cut somebody to land in fch. man yeah but you know them joer go had. them leg the long leg. but it could also be a mix room oh so.

you can't kick or something like that we. were thinking of a mixed rules right uh. because honestly I think it's going to. be too H for him if we don't mix the. rules the one thing about MMA you can't. be onedimensional. Ronda Rousey was onedimensional. Conor McGregor is onedimensional. really yeah he just throw punches he has. a good ground game too you can me every. time they take him to the ground uh uh.

somebody will always have a there's. always somebody that has a better ground. game than somebody and when they say you. have a decent decent ground game is not. the best on the game you know is a sport. of uh M multiple discipline multiple. Dimension you have to be decent at so. and most of the time Champion is not. great at one one thing or. just good at a lot you just need to be.

good at a lot then besides good at a lot. your fighting. IQ make make you even higher because. sometime you fight it you're fighting a. wrestler you know that as soon as you. guys get in the. contact you feel the C you can feel okay. he it's different this guy be wrestling. for 20 years you can wrestle for three. two three months in the training camp. and come compete with somebody that be. eating resing for his entire life right.

so you just have to avoid to go to that. territory you know play with that but at. the end you might win the fight but it. doesn't mean you're a best wrestler if. they put you guys in the wrestling game. he will eat you people like you five in. one. minute yeah wrestler cuz I'm going to. get tired like it's hard it's hard the. boy getting tired when you trying to. wrestle somebody because. yes because you contract always like.

this yeah you know relax what about. Anthony Joshua would you be willing to. fight Anthony Joshua in the course I'm. willing to fight he said he knocked you. he I mean this what he said he said he. knock you out well but but even Tyson. fur say the same thing and Tyson Fury is. better than Anthony Joshua so what do I. care about what people said you heard. that Anthony he said you heard what he. say he said Tyson Fury is better than. you he beat Tyson Fury what do I care. about what people said I mean I've been. into this game so long I have seen so.

much I've heard so much what people. intend to do right there's a difference. between wanting to do and be able to do. or to do or or saying what you're going. to do until you get into the ring and. then have to do yeah so would you be. willing to fight him in like a a mix. like a like you said you and Deontay in. anyone in anything that he wants yeah. anything anything that he want you just. want him in the ring yeah anything that. he want ring of. octagon f. you know like the good thing about this.

is like I'm the one that can go. everywhere more comfortably right you. know my uh my comfort zone will be. octagon but I'm going to the ring and. putting them into a bad spot in the ring. so so you go so you going into their. territory yeah I'm. concurring you concer new. territory I like that I like that. because I have my territory who they. cannot mess with me even and if they. come they would need something like some.

favor like okay give I give you this. okay we take a kick out okay I have to. give him something you can't kick you. can't elbow you basic you just basically. got a box or I mean well no you just. have to box him in the Octagon because. now you can't take him down because they. can't afford the take down yeah I have. to give him something but when we step. in the ring they don't give you. anything but I to get them in trouble. right so leaving the UFC was that a very.

hard decision for. you um it was a decision that if it was. up to me I wouldn't take that decision. you know the situation make me take a. decision but it wasn't something that I. was expecting or that I was thinking but. I get to the point that I realized that. for my good uh for my best I have to. take the the right decision for myself. and that was a good decision for myself. because I'm looking at some of the. things that you requested you requested. health insurance the ability to have. sponsorship for all UFC fighters uh you.

are the advocate for for fighters in all. contract negotiation and when UFC they. denied your request to resign you it's. like okay you're the first reigning. champ to leave the UFC since 2004 so. almost 20 years FR but the reason why I. did that uh you know it wasn't something. that uh even uh early in my career I was. thinking about the reason that I was. requesting all those staff because what. the thing that they push pushed me in. the position that my back was against.

the wall then I have to figure out that. okay this is what wrong this is what's. what's wrong this is what get me here if. I wasn't back on the W maybe I wouldn't. have figured that out so then when uh. when I uh get my back off that wall I'm. like no I don't want to get in that. position that I'm powerless in fact in. fact we all are in those position that. we we are powerless so you need to give. some something up you know uh not to. make it it can be even but at least give.

something up like I have a contract that. I have no leverage in that contract no. power nobody could advocate for me uh. everything that is there is what you say. and. uh I mean like even when they talk you. talk about extension you decide you are. the party and the judge you say okay. this uh we are extending you I don't. even have a right to fight I don't. have and those kind of thing they put me.

in the position to start thing like that. so obviously that's how he come out so. what was I mean so when you obviously. you uh being heavyweight champ you have. a relationship with somewhat of a. relationship with Dana you sit down and. have a conversation you say with Dana. bro come on now I understand you you. guys have built this you have an. unbelievable company but I'm Francis. nanu I'm the heavyweight champion of the. world like make some concessions no I. mean he it wasn't about me because um I. don't just think that oh I'm fris and.

Gano what the hell what what do they. have to do the fact that your friends is. in ghu I'm a fighter and I believe that. a fighter is the one that make that. company right without a fighter uh. there's not a promotion there's not UFC. or there's not any other Pro fighting. promotion how about just thinking of. like giving them a fighter a little bit. of a condition and one thing that I said. uh The Advocate the advocate for the.

fighters was just like let's get. somebody that it wasn't even about the. union I said let's just get somebody. that speak for the fighters uh who will. represent the fighters in the ball. meeting because I do believe that. sometime your decision hurt fighter. hurts fighter but you didn't mean to but. you're seeing stuff from your. perspective but if somebody was there to. uh explain you the fighter perspective. maybe you would have understand better.

and find a uh um make a concession and. make it a good decision for everyone so. that was that was my request it wasn't. like a big deal you want to fire as. Advocate a Advocate right and U the. reason why I did that. um also leading to a sponsorship because. I lost a sponsorship for uh the amount. of a money that I never fighting right. because of one of their sponsor so I'm.

in the position that I'm like okay I'm. not making money I can't fight until you. guys want me to fight if you are not. happy to me I cannot. fight and I have no right that contract. gives me no right to claim like okay I. have a right to fight two fight a year. minimum right there's nothing you can. sit me there for two one year and a half. and say oh we are looking oh this. doesn't work this didn't work out oh can. be good and I'm like no that's not fair. that's not right right you are taking.

everything out from me all my right. exclusivity because you only make money. if you fight yeah and so I'm exclusive. I'm supposedly independent uh contractor. but I'm not because I think the word. independent contractor is just not to. give me the benefit that employees will. have like such as health insurance and. uh most of the time time uh we in this. sport we get to the point that we need.

um uh surgery or something that is more. that we can't afford we cannot afford a. lot of Fighters still fight paycheck. after paycheck uh and that's why like uh. when when they finish a fight go home. sit and pray that they receive a call. for the promotion for the UFC to fight. again uh to in order to have money and. by the time they they they have a fight. they already broke they already they.

already spent the money that they made. money from the last fight. so at least you cover something like I. have seen fighter I mean even now I. still see a lot of fighter that get hurt. but they can't go to the hospital they. have and they can't pull out pull out. from the fight because they need to go. because you make the money no they need. to go into the fight when they come out. of of the fight they claim it as they. was hurt in the fight that the only.

that's the only because that's the only. moment that they are covered they have. the insurance but if they don't do that. if they don't go to the fight they will. never benefit from that insurance and I. think it's not fair you know uh in a. spot that you're using your body going. after you know you have a Sur injury and. then you have to go with this injury for. like maybe one or two months just. because you cannot afford uh a uh. surgery or. something I.

think you said something very. interesting you said that you had an. opportunity for a. sponsorship that you would make more. money from that sponsor than you would. in the fight but you couldn't do the. sponsorship because of the sponsor with. the UFC yeah so the Dana then says okay. Francis you can't do that sponsorship. but since we have a sponsor you can do. this sponsor did he come to you with. that. uh no and that. again you know that's the kind of.

concession that I don't want I think at. this point we are getting to the place. that we can have our own right and the. reason um I think um fighter get drop. from their platform which is like uh. sponsorship sponsorship is what atlet. most of the time you get a little more. money basically for those who doesn't. make money they count a lot of on. sponsorship and obviously when you have.

when you're having a lot of or you can. have endorsement on your trunks or. something like that you know gaming. sites or you know something of that. nature yes but and I understand that uh. they want to make the spling and this. yes that's good you know uh credit to. you but at least have a department so. you say okay maybe Firs are allowed to. have one or two that will be checked if. everything and fit check check uh fit. into the box if if so they can have it.

you know but have it because that's. their uh their own but now you have to. wear all carry all those sponsor on you. that you you you got to all the UFC. sponsors yeah basically so no value for. you joh Jones D J Jones and Dana White. Dana said Francis won't take wants to. take zero risk he's obviously didn't. want to take a chance with Jon Jones He. also said Dana wants to fight the lesser. of opponents and make. money is there any regret that you left.

the UFC without getting an opportunity. to settle you and Jon Jones I always. regretted before I left the UFC I've. been asking this fight for almost three. years and guess what they've been. telling me that JJ is scared JJ don't. doesn't want to fight Jun doesn't want. this Jun has enough enough money he's. living in abuk CID uh that he's not. spending that much money so he doesn't.

need a risk J Jun is not this J J. doesn't want this and that's how they. keep rolling you know so is a mechanism. that they use in any sense right um of. negotiation and I'm sure like maybe uh. at the same time. uh if J joh is asking the same fight. they will say the same thing into this. fight and that's the problem when you. have somebody in the mirror that is. controlling the information the only. thing that I know from J Jones is what.

the UFC will tell me from J joh the only. thing that J J would know from me is. what the USA would tell him so what mean. the power is here he manipulate. everything uh uh both side and public. opinion what if the UFC and and and your. current uh MMA sanctioning body says you. know what this fight is too big not to. happen just like we saw with McGregor. and Floyd Mayweather that was too much. money for it not to happen so we got 20.

we got 40 we got 50. million we going to split it right down. the middle well I've been claiming this. fight I'm in the pfl they can we can do. the same thing as they did with with. Floy me but at this uh at this moment. pfl need to be involved right yeah but. they want to cut pfl out they just want. to I don't I don't know what they want. do but I do know but you you would be. willing to fighton I'm willing to I'm.

willing to still now as long as the. country we can find a way I'm willing to. do that fight not to go back to the USA. But to but just that just that just that. one for one this is a one time offer. yeah justify JS but I mean but let me. ask you a question yes you make 25. million let's just say for the sing cuz. this going to be the biggest it's going. to be the biggest fight in UFC history. yeah you're a champion he is a champion. many believe he's the greatest MMA. fighter ever no matter what I believe.

too so you're going to make a now you. get 25 you get 30 $40 million in your. bank account how does Francis Nano stay. motivated that. changes that amount of money because now. all of a sudden Francis got on he got on. mink slippers no first of all you have. to I think you have to find out what's. keep you what is your motivation okay. sometime uh some people motivation is. money M and for some people money is the.

money will help them to get higher to. find more like we are today in the gym. uh to a private gym that I have on my. own money allows me to do that you know. to set but I'm using money to get uh. build my own infrastructure and just to. get better because I'm going somewhere. I'm using it to accommodate myself. better to better to equip myself better. to get there I'm using those money to. maybe when neared I don't have to take.

appointment with physic at physic with. physical therapy I just have my own. personal physical therapy and that's. what I did right uh but my motivation is. still the same my drive wasn't to get. money money will help me to get what I. want my drive was to get do the best. that I can possibly do to find out how. far I can go and I'm still about to find. out how I can go every time this um get.

bigger and bigger you feel the need of. this right so you think uh before the. Tyson fight I was sitting home like oh. no I'm not hungry anymore no I mean it's. been a long time since I'm not hungry. but I need I need that motivation right. I I still have that motivation and even. better it's getting even better because. you get that and then your needs you see. more yeah no I mean more to achieve like.

what can I do like uh when I started my. career there wasn't like a potential Jun. Jun fight would be the biggest fight one. of the biggest fight there wasn't a. Tyson Fury fight that would be a biggest. fight you get to the point that you can. get all that why would you it would be a. waste to retire without uh having all. that without testing yourself like that. since that's your your goal November is. here and we're in the heart of football. season basketball and hockey are just. getting started so many games to watch.

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born in. Cameroon what was what was francis's. life. like in. Cameroon uh he was very tough uh very. very tough but um I do believe that that. was. my that's your foundation regardless of. what happened I mean if I have to go. back. I swear to God I will not choose that. life although I still believe that it's.

still the best life that I could have. had as a kid even though I couldn't I. can choose that life it was the best. best thing for me that I needed your. your father was a street fighter is that. kind of what drove you to the MMA is. that what I mean how cuz I mean he was a. he was a multiple staff he wasn't only. that aspect first of all I love combat. like my always my as far as as I can.

remember I always love combat you know. in uh in Cameron um The Men Sport will. be like soccer football okay and uh I. was playing football because it's for us. it's like culture right you know like. you don't have to love football or to. play football it's like culture stuff. everybody every kids play football but. it wasn't my thing my thing was fighting. and remember like I was asking kid. around like okay let's try this let's. try this uh play the the bad cup the bad.

guy and the good guy and this and I'm. like you're too violent you're too. Beau were you were you always the bigger. kid for my age yeah but uh I grew up. around uh people that were like 3 years. older than me you know we were going to. school like I was three three years. younger but we were all the same side. until like maybe the day that at school. they have to read our birthday and. people will look around like damn is.

there's a baby in the class what the. hell are you doing here right like. because I was younger but I was just as. big as any everyone but they didn't know. right how many brothers and sisters do. you have I have three brothers and one. sister I'm the second oldest and then. second older and then my sister is the. fourth out of five so obviously in. Cameroon I'm assuming that you come from. a A working class family that you guys.

had to work you worked if I'm not. mistaken Sal as a child no s m yeah well. I think we were even little below the. working class okay you below. that I don't quite know below working. class but okay we go with that yeah we. were below working class because uh. unlike me my brother and I no other kids. started to work at that age right right.

like 9 yearold working in the sunqu what. the hell can you do I mean like even the. shovel empty shovel uh for a 9 years old. kid was already enough. right lucky for me I was bigger than 9. years old so I could have carried that. and I I was strong right so I would. could have carry that and shrivel a. little bit of sand and after go do. different stuff you know uh we we had to. do that in order to sustain uh our life.

to to help in the. house so yeah I did that my entire life. so uh later on in my uh later on uh when. I we were a teenager other kids were. coming maybe around 14 13 other kids was. were now coming to do that because they. feel like okay this is the age that they. can start but by the time we were. started 13 14 you already been doing. that since so we were like the teacher. like teaching them how to start how to.

work you know working them through. everything what I tell people is that my. upbringing was kind of hard too but. working the jobs that I had Francis it. let me know what I didn't want to do for. the rest of my life doing that in the. sand mines did that let you know man I. ain't trying to do this when I get my. dad's age or when I get older oh. absolutely I mean it wasn't only that. everything that I have done in my life I. remember so many time uh I haven't work. but this was like later on I will work.

in the sand mine uh because I was always. concerned about my life like future. think about my future like okay what. will happen at this moment and I will. work in the S mine I see this guy like. maybe 55 60 years old he sheving son I. will look at him and then like have like. you know feel weird like. this you know like uh um have a goose. bomb like [ __ ] so if I don't do. something I'm going to find myself here.

at 60 years or something that's not. going to happen right there's no way. that that's going to happen he has to. change he has to be different and that's. happened to me a lot even when I left. the village I went to the city we were. uh carrying uh merchandise unloading. truck and stuff um and there was a. people older that was working that job. and I'm like man so if I stay am if I. get settle I might just end up like this. guy because this guy actually just think.

like oh okay let's just do it and then. didn't think of tomorrow and then year. just go by he didn't realize then I'm. like no I have to be awake I have to be. awake notice the time going and because. this can end like this I can find myself. here at this age but the problem is that. like when you have those kind of talk. thought if you express it. then it's kind of like insulting those. people and then in Africa like when you.

when a adult Fe a Elder person feel. insult by you is very disrespectful. right so I am in the village U maybe I'm. 10 years old 12 15 years old and uh they. all believe that are going to become a. farmer or a carpenter or maybe go learn. mechanic and stuff I'm like no I'm going. to do this I'm going to uh do. uh be a professional fighter they'll be. like like who nobody has ever done that.

year like it's not mean for us right. it's not for us it's for somebody look. look around you and this is your reality. and I'm like yeah I agree but although I. still want to give it a shot so. therefore it seems like okay you're. looking down to people like you didn't. have a better life you didn't choose a. better job and then they started fa that. and reject on you they didn't just. because nobody has a big a dream big.

enough to understand that you are just. dreaming you know you are not even. thinking about them but you're thinking. about you and what you want you're not. looking down on them but you're looking. better for yourself on them but you are. looking up for yourself right so that's. how like my upbringing was also tough. because like just carry just keep. dreaming just have this mentality of a. dreamer he was something hard to manage. out there in the in middle of a people. that they don't have dream they don't.

expect something big to happen for them. and that set me to the point that people. like oh this kid is a bad kit I was a. very bad kit for people like when I go. someplace people didn't even want me to. mix in the middle of their kid I'm like. this kid is a bad kid he's going to. intoxicate our kid right here like his. mindset is not good he's dreaming so. high like he's going to end up rubbing a. bank a bank because he want a easy life. like what do you mean a easy life I'm.

say I'm going to I might just go out. there and get pchas my face not easy. life like but they didn't believe that. it could have happened basically in the. country that they really have not. example not example of a person that. have done it have succeeded in it even. people that has more opportunity and. started earlier um when this you see um. um document on their life or watch them. on the news they go back and you know.

want to tell their story this guy is in. the house with uh dust everywhere he. couldn't even have a uh cement floor and. stuff like that. and it was tough so like to be honest to. this day I don't blame people those. people not to believe me because the. reality around was tough enough to to. believe in something like that but I was. so driven by my dream the power of my. dream was so big and I could I could.

have feel that only on my own I could. have share to with people what I'm. feeling and I was so confident about it. and people was looking at me like this. kid is losing his mind like he's out of. the real world like come down on Earth. bro you know like yeah so was that I. read you were a a a loner as a. kid yeah I mean I wasn't really a loner. by choice by uh decision just happened.

like that you know like people don't. want you play with the kids cuz you a. bad influence you dream too big no like. um when my parent get divorced I was 6. years old okay um so uh we started to. live in in different family uh like. we're going to go to this family member. that will help take us for like maybe 6. months and within this 6 months uh maybe. we will go to school and you will start. a new school and you don't have a friend. not only you don't have a friend you're. a new guy you need time to have friend.

but um one thing that wasn't playing on. our advant on my advantage was the fact. that uh to get to. the um even at at the school you know. when you come at uh in a new school and. then you're the cool guy is it's easy to. have friend everybody want to be your. friend but you the kids that come with. your shoes that is I don't know like not. right and then they're going to kick you.

out uh of school of the classroom. someday because you didn't just have a. pen to take note or you didn't have a. notebook or stuff like that or you. didn't pay your uh scholar. fee so you had to pay to go to school oh. yeah we pay to go to school yeah oh we. paid to go to. school for regular Public School you had. to pay yeah it's it's cheaper but we pay. we have to pay and then so you a new you.

a new kids and then you're the one that. is always being embarrassed so everyone. want to step back nobody is very. interested to be your friend you want to. be friend you want to fit in you know. you are just a kid you know you want to. belong but you don't belong it's hard to. find uh you know you never bring food at. cool to share with somebody so nobody. want to share with you because usually. when kids share with you is in the.

expectation that tomorrow maybe you. share with them as well but you never. bring anything nobody want to share with. you nobody want to even hang out around. so then he was like that. continuously and then uh and then I kept. trying but one thing that I was doing I. created a virtual war in my mind you. know because the life was so tough uh a. lot of thing was missing in my life that. the only way that I could get those. things right as I wanted was in my mind.

and I and I created it and I was living. a life in my mind I was living two life. actually like one on Earth for real and. one just in my head and it was a real. life that I have a family and everything. and we go to school everything is good. we come back home there's food we eat. and go uh do our homework. everything like just perfect as I want. with my parents always at home my.

siblings which by the time I I didn't. even know where the my my other sibling. were one was here the other one was. there two was. there we were all spread around so the. only way to reunite us was in my in my. mind and you said your parents got. divorced when you were six did you. understand did your parents sit you down. and says you know no no no we they don't. do that we don't have that uh aspect in. Africa they don't have that uh meant.

emotion aspect in Africa you have to. understand like I'm talking of a uh like. growing up for example as a kid MH maybe. never get hug even when you're home with. your dad you never get huged by with. your dad so this the level of emotion. the emotional attachment is not. emotional attachment it's not that we. don't take that emotional comp component. like I was after one year uh with my.

parent being divorced I was uh with my. aunts and then I saw because when they. divorce I stay with this ants like two. years and a half almost 3 years before. started to go displ 6 months one year. but that was the longest that I I stay. somewhere else uh from maybe 6 to I. don't know 6 to 15 or 16. so I was there like.

um was just 7 years old and one day I. asked my aunt which is the uh biggest. sister of my mom I asked her like why my. dad and my mom couldn't leave like your. husband and. you that wasn't a good question to ask. because she didn't understand how a. seven years old kid can understand. understand something like that can thing. like that so for them I was just a.

spirit living in the kid body so they. always believe she always belied she. passed away like 5 years ago but even. though she believed that I wasn't just. me like a spirit was living in me she. didn't understand that I was just. missing my family so much that he was I. was able to notice stuff like that. because all the time I'm looking at this. I'm like why where is my par my own. parent I'm seeing them when their kid. I'm like where is my own parent why my. own parent you wanted what they had I.

wanted what they had so from the moment. that I'm missing those stuff I notice it. right you said you you you worked in the. sand mines for over 20 over 10 years so. until you were 22 and you saw people die. in those same minds and you said as you. mentioned earlier you saw someone you. believe to be 55 60 years of age and you. were just a child and you said I don't. want that to be me that's not going to. be me I see better and you mentioned. that you had two you lived two lives you.

had the life that you had in Cameroon. and you had the life that you had in. your mind yeah that you envisioned that. there was something better for Francis. and ganu away from Cameroon uh at that. moment I wasn't thinking a way of. Cameron I was just thinking of the. future I don't know where that future. would would would have been until I. think until really like when I started. boxing at 22 I realized that even with. boxing I'm not going anywhere in. Cameroon I'm not going to do anything.

even if I'm the best right is not going. to be uh helpful so that's when you so. at 22 is when you first got into the the. combat the the boxing game yeah and. you're like obviously you're beating up. all the people in Cameroon he like. okay uh what was the next step what was. your thought process okay I'm winning. the camera room but I'm never going to. be what I believe I can be just being in. Cameron well even in Cameron I didn't do. boxing so much because after one year I. got.

sick atis B oh and it wasn't great so. and I was boxing and was working at the. same time because I was already on my. own so now I have to take care of myself. um do this uh regime for like 6 months. and stuff so I stopped boxing and that. was the moment that another like glass. of cold water was thrown on in on my. face like look at the reality and the.

reality was that this I ain't going. anywhere with this out here I better get. out of this country and go somewhere. with more. opportunity your story here's where the. story gets really I mean you had a the. childhood is that when you in the third. world country and you're living and then. you said we're lower than working class. but here's where it gets very. interesting and people follow me with. this at 26 you left Cameroon you go to. Nigeria Niger Algeria Morocco the Sahara.

Desert the man Mediterranean Sea and. Spain just to make it to pass France now. I'm not mellan I'm not this great you. know Navigator or anything but it seems. like you was just traveling in circles. before you got to your ultimate. destination so Nigeria Niger Algeria. Morocco Sahara Desert Mediterranean it. took you over a year yeah it took me 14. it took me 14 months to get all the way. to to FRS because all this was uh um.

illegal immigration right um a lot of. people that are looking for a better. opportunity for job for stuff like that. um that lived I mean I left on my own. but on on the way we met you met with. people coming from different places and. by the time you get in Morocco there's. like all the nationality of South uh of. um s uh.

South. Subs African that are up there they have. different community and all with the. same goal to get in in Europe I mean. watching that is scary you I'm like okay. so all these people are looking to go. they been it's been like this amount. every time where am I going exactly you. know you're free but you were undeterred. because you me you were on the raft. sometimes you got turned back you got. and you just like I'm not I'm not going.

back the Journey of a lot of people out. there in fact uh I was out there just. for one one. year uh I can say yes I was very. determinated I was uh going again and. again and again I didn't settle because. some people at some point they get tired. they get exhausted they get born out and. they just uh go back in the city and sit. and just start to find a job as a. builder or help somebody like work you. know and they are all in they not in the.

good situation so they can even afford a. good job so. um yeah I was just doing the same it was. the same process as a lot of people some. people had uh better CH have better. chance they would do it make it from the. first attempt some people second attempt. some people will try to treat time and. don't make it and just uh give up you. know a quit how many times did it take. you before you became successful and got.

crossed over so in the in the ocean he. was I fell sixth time and he was the. seventh time I went to the gate uh like. three times it didn't work uh the first. time I get really really caught by the B. wire okay really bad you got stuck you. got yeah I still get some I still get. some deep scar on me that reminds. me but uh I always like prefer water.

because I was more comfortable in water. uh and stuff but I finally succeeded the. seventh time and it was like one year. exactly from the day that I left. Cameroon basically like one year. anniversary wow from when I left ceron. so I remember when we get rescue we get. rescued by the Red Cross in the O in the. ocean uh he was out around like maybe 8. to 9 a.m. in the morning and April 3rd.

20 um. 2013 and uh that's my daughter's. birthday really 2013 no April 3rd April. 3r yeah and I was there and these people. the other people because it was nine of. us in this raft this little swimming. pool ra and then uh they were. celebrating and I was just there. thinking then I. just hit me oh some people was calling. their family but I've been there so long. that I have nothing even not a fun no.

money. nothing the even the reason why I was in. that raft was because I have so much. experience by faing that I was a captain. I don't know how to swim I don't know. how to swim but I know how to. paddle you said you like water more so. than but you can't swim. no. sweet hold on you in the Mediterranean. Sea and you can't swim a lit no oh my.

goodness so you you think you think if. you can swim you you can swim from the. Mediterranean no but I'm I'm okay so. that no I a say swim but you can swim I. mean I ain't going to go straight down. like a rock I mean I can stay up I can. stay afloat for a while and then what. would be the the end of it you can get. back to the raal if you fall out to the. raal if you no no then I will get back. if there's possibility to get off to the. raft we have life jacket at least oh so. y'all had where y'all get the life.

jacket from oh no no the first role is. to have life Jack okay you all going to. the in the ocean. yes with this rft he needs he needs uh a. little nail like this to to blow that. [ __ ] like and it's. over doesn't matter if you know how to. swim if you're in the middle of the. ocean it doesn't. matter it doesn't matter at all so the. minimum the bare minimum is a life. jacket and sometime we don't have a life.

jacket um uh you know this thing that I. don't know how they call it we call it. in French vers that they put inside the. tire yeah in Tu uh in a tube in the tube. then we take it we blew it and then we. cut the other one we tie it we put on. our waist like this we we get it WRA on. our s like this that one is even better. than better than life. cheaper you said you didn't tell anybody. that you were leaving why because when.

you if I say I'm leaving what would be. your first question where you going why. exactly where you. going and if I say I don't know what. would you think of me uh well since you. don't know where you're going well you. might as well stay here I'm going try to. talk you out of it yeah I mean yeah you. might just oh you might just think that. I'm I'm crazy basically that since I've. been having this crazy dream that nobody. understand then now I wake up someday. and say oh I'm going where are you going. I don't know come on man what the hell.

is that right and. also he was so. stressful you I I mean you don't know. you're walking into the unknown. territory yeah you don't know if you. will ever come back or not you don't. know how it's out there you don't know. if you will make it if you will survive. you don't know if you come back uh in. Life or if you even your body will ever. come back or if you come back you will. come back in 5 years or in 10 years you.

don't know I mean like how are you going. to tell that to people you didn't think. your family would be worried that you. just took off in the didn't like where. is Francis Francis n where Francis Fran. yeah but if they wor it when I'm gone. that mean I'm gone. already I'm G already so that's another. thing so what so when you get ready to. so what do you guys do for food okay you.

going you going you goingon to be in. this raft and you're going to be in it. for an extended period of Time how much. food did you get no in the raft you. don't have food I mean um and it's not. what y' eating no it's not like you. don't spend days on the raft right uh. it's hours couple hours hey in that. situation you can do 24 make 2 4 hour. without eating you ain't you ain't get. nothing you ain't get no fruit you ain't. grab No Bananas you ain't grab nothing. no uh you don't I.

mean is a very you hiding from the. police and sometime you can get stuck. somewhere for 5 hours just stay in one. spot because there's a police car there. because there's a police somewhere. around or somebody that can potentially. alert the Police or something and then. you will just hide like that that all. night long we are doing this all night. long we start our journey as soon as uh. the night fall and then uh waiting in.

the morning like maybe 5 5 to 6 it. depend the moment that they call prayer. because uh there's this uh prayer every. morning that we call and is a sign we. are expecting the the people that uh are. watching uh overnight watching uh to go. pray at that moment so it's the. opportunity for us to put the W in the. water all night long we will be watching. uh watching The Wave because your W is.

your ra is this big and then sometime. the wave is coming all the way high here. and you look at your the wave you look. at your R you like there's no way and. sometime you try you force you forc to. go to the uh to those waves and then he. will take you and smash you back and you. better be on some where that they sand. no Rock. because if you go in the in between of. rocks to put the raft even if you find a.

spot to put a raft sometime when wave. has very big they will grab you and slam. you on those Rock right so what about. like water did you take water. no so basically so for 24 hours I mean. maybe 24 maybe sometimes some people. yeah sometime you can have something uh. in your pocket get prepared but you are. not going to carry food if you have. something like a cereal bar or a bread.

you know is a uh is a c so is born very. low if you have it good but you also. have to know that sometime people go to. those places without even having what to. eat they don't have nothing left you. know but their only drive is to get to a. better life right so what was it I mean. cuz not only you like you had to go. through the forest sometimes you had to. go by land I know you said you chose you. like water better than land so the.

conditions and you mentioned like it was. so many different Subs ofan that was. making this track you you know how on. estimate how many people you think it. worth on a given time making that trk a. th000 10,000 5,000 20,000 no not that. much but couple thousand couple thousand. at least yeah the condition uh when. you're the gate because when you when. you're trying the gate you guys going to. live in the forest right and then uh. even like in the winter in the winter uh.

the Water condition is very bad very. aggressive it's very cold the the water. is not stable at all so you can't even. try you know it's like so there's a time. like okay we're going to go say like the. spring or the summer the water's calmer. the water's warmer yeah yeah and you. have you know the weather is nicer you. don't want to be on the water when it's. cold yeah uh there's a moment moment.

that they call it out nobody is going on. water because he a it's too dangerous. yeah too too. dangerous so on all those voice did so. what did you do to stay in shape because. like you're a fighter you said you. always wanted to be a fighter that was. going to be your thing so did you like. if you were in the forest did you do. push-ups did you do situps I mean what. did you I did pushup than I can do now. like uh I was doing I get to the point. that I was doing like uh 300 pushup a.

day like five section of 60 pushup. like normal and then with some apps some. stuff like that but just because we have. nothing to do and then we get into spend. after that afterward they put us in jail. for two months nothing you you can do. anything there just maybe push up work. some bench right whatever you can do. so you spent two years in in Paris so. how how long were you in almost four.

years in in jail no no two months two. months two months in Spain ja was in. Spain then you got to Paris yeah then I. left when they free us we went to this. those Association uh after a couple. couple weeks we left and uh actually I. was going to Germany I wasn't going yeah. yeah you wanted to go to Germany why. would you want to go to Germany what's. in Germany there was a kko brother and. the heavyweight boxing at that time was. moving up there okay in France uh there.

wasn't really like a boxing stuff that. was driving me there and I was chasing. boxing because at first if I would have. to choose I would have come straight to. America right there's not a path like. that to come to America then I want to. go to the UK but problem now the UK is. not in the shenen zone so even when we. get there with not uh you trying and get. into Europe and when they free you you. need to do another similar stuff and go.

north in France and trying wait for. months and I don't know maybe more to. trying to go to the UK I was like oh man. I'm tired I'm going to Germany uh I mean. I don't speak any German but uh sporters. need language I will learn over time but. by the time I will be uh boxing how did. you meet people how did you make friends. because you know you say you weren't a. loner by choice is that you know when. your parents separated and and you know.

you had to go with this Aunt you went. with this relative to to and so when you. go to different schools kids were a. little apprehensive um so how did you. meet people how did you make. friends well I wasn't going to make. friends I mean I think uh over uh I get. to the point when I was a kid I get to. the point that I understand my reality. uh then I stopped trying to make friend. I just and I and I think that was even. the best thing that happened to me you. know like I just accept my situation and.

just take it at he was and just be my. own friend and he worked out perfectly. uh I've never been dependent on anybody. I just you don't have a whole lot of. friends now do you no no I don't even. now because the problem is that when I. get later on in life I get in a good. position. uh a better situation but I was so used. to be alone and and then that's the. moment that people some people people.

would think I mean you're a good profile. to be friend you know you're a cool guy. now but you're so used to be alone right. that you that contact with. people being around all the time you can. do it you know like if I go somewhere if. I go into a party or somewhere that. there's so many people like at some. point I I need to step out to go. somewhere that I'm alone otherwise. because it trained my energy you an. introvert yeah it gets me exhausted so I.

need to go out somewhere that I'm by. myself then I refill my energy right but. if I can deal with like constant uh uh. company you find a boxing. gy how did you know that the people. there were legit how did you know like. okay this this this is it this is it I. didn't not know that he was legit I just. have to I just had to try and I know. that I had to start somewhere right he.

wasn't about being legit boxing at the. end of the. day boxing gym would not make you a. boxer the only thing you can find the. best boxing gym but you are not just a. boxer and you will never become a boxer. right um it's up to you and if you are. really a boxer maybe you start in some. gym which is not that great or that. doesn't have that level later on you. will understand and you will find. yourself in a Bo good position so like.

um I I get in Paris he was June 9th and. then um it was a Sunday and the next day. was Monday I just start walk around and. ask for a gym until I found this gym um. and it was around 4 400 p.m. and um. there were training and I asked to see. the coach the coach wasn't there there. was a guy that was uh um giving a class. that day named DJ K so I asked if I can.

meet him they say yes wait until the the. end of the class so after the end of the. class I met him and I explain the. situation I said I just came from Africa. I'm sleep I don't even have where to. sleep but it's okay I'm not asking for I. just want a place to train because I'm I. want to be are going to be a world. champion you know it's little um it's. little cocky when you meet people at the. gym and none of them is even like French.

champion and you just throw at their. face like you're going to be a world. champion right you know like you think. we hang it out here just for. fun but that's how he came out but he. was a really good guy and then he he he. help he help me a lot how how long did. you stay in Germany I didn't go to. Germany that was in France France yeah. you didn't so you didn't go to Germany. so I was just I just stopped in France.

with uh because I was I met with group. of people there were all going to France. so I'm like okay let's stop in France. and see then I stop in France but next. day I was just going I didn't just stop. to like okay let's enjoy friends I was. just going then I find something that I. keep and you kept finding something else. yeah keep digging keep digging so. basically you left France came to the US. yeah what was it like getting on that. plane coming to the. US oh because getting in France yes he.

was good he was another uh but that was. just the end the beginning of another. chapter then you have to figure out your. way in France you are in France um you. have no situation no regulation um. situation in France big black guy with. your African accent good luck with that. but the women the women probably liked. you big black guy in FRS with an. accent see.

you so this is the. thing they so. um. usually I mean when they know you're in. that situation everybody know that you. in you need one thing paper mhm how to. get your situation regulated mhm and. marriage is marriage is one of those. situation so a lot of women or they try. to marry you they try to marry they.

don't want none of that because for them. they just see it's like it's like a rich. man like a rich man thinking a woman is. just coming after so for them you are. just coming after the so they don't even. want to think about it it's not even. it's not even thinkable right all right. obviously there are some few uh. exception but. overall is not even thinkable because. even when you talk to a man and a man. that that man understand that you don't. have a paper bro he treats you like you.

are a uh inferior creature like you. you're below him just because of the. paper and I kind of like man it's not. like something that you earned you. didn't do anything you deserve that you. know I mean yes maybe you get some job. you work hard you you get you build a. house and somebody doesn't have a house. you just happen to be born in friend you. just have to be born in friend and. that's all you didn't do anything so. don't look at but is a is the most.

people will act like this so you walk. around and trying to sneak and you don't. even tell people right right but you. have this battle because without it you. don't you not in any system right so. when you g came to the US what was the. first where did you like where did you. go to when you came to the US where did. you go first Orlando I was going to. Orlando it was my first US fight okay so. that's when I was coming into us and. then uh as my dream was always to come. to to the US I remember I landed and.

then there was this guy uh at the. baggage claim with the tablet with my. name on it UFC on top like Francis andu. and then I we I I saw my name we walk. through him take my back and then go to. the car drive life and at that moment. I'm just thinking of that my first time. in the US and I'm comparing it in my. first time in France I'm like this is so.

different I'm looking like okay and he. was. what not even four years a yeah four. years ago four years ago h no two two. years two years uh couple months yeah. because this was December 2015 right I. get in friend in June 2013 so this was 2. years and maybe five or six five months.

yeah two years and a half right after. then I'm looking at me getting in France. in the subway that I jump I didn't even. pay a ticket I Dr on the subway and. snake and was watching Poli is this. that's how I'm getting a new friend and. then ended up in the in the parking lot. that I found a uh uh box. and put on the floor sleep on it like. uh and then I'm here Landing in the US.

and there's somebody out there I mean. that I'm I'm coming from uh from a plane. right and somebody is waiting for me I. work there and then get in the uh get in. the car drove me into the hotel and I. was I'm just laying back I'm watching. for everything like okay. just it's just going to my mind I'm just. processing stuff right and then we get. to this hotel H Hotel HED.

residency massive Hotel I never saw a. hotel like that and I just lay back to. go there check in and brought my key. gave me my. key room number we went up put my key. get in my room I lock the door I make. sure the door is very locked. I look my phone I call in Cameroon and I. say hey I have made. it I have made it.

because my whole dream was to be in. America right that was like my biggest. dream since I was kid like I remember. like even when since I was eight or. seven I've been making having nickname. calling myself American Boy and all the. stuff like uh and they will call me like. San Francisco uh and I'll force people. to tell people like my name is San. Francisco like to this day my signature.

is SF and people sometime people is like. uh there's no s on your name I'm like. it's my signature you don't know my. name so I'm in the US and I get in the. US in the best way no as I get in Europe. so like I made it right right I'm here. and I remember also 2 2008 we were in. Cameron when Obama won the election the.

yeah and then he was the result was came. out like he was maybe 5 a.m. in Cameron. nobody didn't sleep we were waiting the. first black it was something very. important the first black president. everybody feel related into that like. and then he. won and then I was there we was. celebrating but in my mind something was. racing something else was racing and I. tell uh my uncle I'm like okay uh a.

presidency uh mandate is like 4 years in. the US so and renew one time so 8 years. at the end of this are going to be in. the US I'm going to be and so that's I. made it in 2017 2015 and he was still. president I made it I don't know what. the hell you're talking about you made. it so you made it hey I made it so let. me ask you a question so when you got. you you got to the US you have the fight. in Orlando you get a check what you do.

with the. money you go buy anything. special. no my dream is so big that obviously. it's a money that I never had but I'm. looking for something else. I'm I'm dreaming big I don't have time. for that okay that's cool then what next. what what am I having right. right he was all about like how the the.

June the process yeah I didn't buy. anything I was supposed to I wanted to. go in Cameron for vacation and that. would that would have been my first time. since I left then uh but at the same. time I want to fight right back and then. they gave me a fight. um yeah no. I wanted to go but you know I was. sitting there hoping to fight maybe in. February so I didn't go to ceron uh I'm.

like let's wait then uh they gave me if. after maybe I think it was January or. early yeah sometime in January or early. February they gave me this fight my. second fight I was going to fight Curtis. blade in Zagreb Croatia so after that I. went back in Cameron and he was four. years since I left wow listening at you. you always even the situation with the. UFC you thought about other.

Fighters PL League you think about other. Fighters you go back home and it's. thinking about your family your. community how do I put them in a better. situation where did you develop that. from uh we grew up in a very tough. situation um my family and I we our life. get us very close we are very bound like. very very close like you know um I used. to get sick sick in a way that I.

couldn't like go to the bathroom go go. out there pee on my own I need support. you know and uh even like when we are. working in the sun uh in the sun mine. like when I'm sick they will use our. money even my brother money to take me. to the hospital so he wasn't like my. money your money he was our ours you. know stuff like that and then when you. get to the point that you understand. that you need you need this you need.

them and they are for some reason they. are always there uh then you lay there. and then you feel powerless and then. it's hard but you see them around you. know got to like do everything to. support to help you in that position. that you the most. vulnerable those help like relationship. I think one that that that's like one of. the uh second thing uh that I feel very.

maybe the first thing that I feel very. grateful about because regardless I saw. a lot of family around MH that they were. actually doing good that growing up. maybe we will expect them to give uh. them their clothes that they don't wear. anymore or the shoes that they don't. want anymore but I saw how ended how. their family end up um like in fact I. think our family is by far was by far. the best right because we get into the.

position that we just s to each other I. mean like it's comforting to think that. if your brother make it he's going to. think about you right and then you're. counting on him you're counting on each. other so the day that you make it you. also have this days in you. and we we were so family focused you. know like um and I always miss this my. family reunion that.

uh my first goal was to make this happen. you know until like I started make the. family re those family reunion my our. dad wasn't at the table but I was able. to gather everyone and put in one table. maybe for Christmas for something or. maybe just for the party that I came. back home and that we're going to thr. this party and uh the good thing about. it is like when you feel like you have. that power okay uh somebody doesn't is.

not missing because he he's out there. working how much you makeing it work I. get you bro come when I say come. everybody come right you open the gym. and how difficult was it has it is it. difficult for you to say no because you. strike me as a very generous person. especially I say no a lot in fact even. no no listen you have to understand I'm. coming from. a uh country that a lot of people are in.

the very uh bad condition bad condition. if you take their problem it's going to. drown you you can you can handle so you. can't save everyone you can't save you. have to save yourself first and to get. out of the water before trying to take. somebody out of the water otherwise both. of you you would drown. so even when I want to help somebody. sometime he will come and explain his. problem I'm like bro figure it out. that's your. [ __ ] I will go think of a problem think.

of like what could be the solution but I. don't want a grown man to just sit out. there lay back and wait on me for you. because I'm out here working my ass off. too I'm not out here sitting and things. are just coming to me so I'll let you. know you count on yourself because when. you count on yourself you never get. disappointed right if somebody helps you. that that would be a great surprise but. when you count on people you always have. a bad surprise right you you rather.

chance for disappointment a great. surprise than a bad surprise how is it. going back home. now both it's good and bad you probably. have to have a police escort when you go. back or no just go out just stay home. like a prisoner like you you're running. away from somebody. knowing that you you owe nobody nothing. or you're not running away from anything. but you still have to stay home because.

that's the easiest way wow you want to. go place you just think about like oh. people are there people going to meet me. going to see me and I'm like I already. just stay here man leave me. alone but it's great overall that's mean. you're doing good at what age did you. learn. English uh. when I started come when I started to. come in the US um so prior of coming to. the US you didn't speak English no even. in Cameroon we were speaking a little.

bit of ping but no not too much uh I. wasn't even speaking too much but I. always love English and I understand. that uh at that time I understood that I. needed English for me uh learning. English was an investment that I was. going to make and I was like one of the. biggest decision when I move in the US. because when I mov in the US this was. early. 2017 bro it was so hard like even the.

word that I know maybe because I learn. at school like water people will say. water but we we say water water or. something like that and it's and when I. say water nobody understand anything and. when they say water I'm like what the. hell is talking about and the accent and. the speed that they are talking sometime. people are talking I think like this guy. is singing or he's talking like what's. the different how to figure it out so. the easiest thing was just to go back. maybe in France or somewhere but I'm.

like remember why I came here I need. this English I need this English for for. the future this a good asset you speak. French yeah Spanish no no Spanish no. even though I was in Spanish for like. what two months and a half yeah and two. in two months I was just in chair us so. we were all speaking French so we wasn't. in Spain the only time the only thing. that we know in in Spanish was P time to.

go out uh La laucha when they turning. the light on off a night for us to go to. sleep stuff like that what was the. hardest language for you to. learn well. um I don't know I mean. French is not something I don't know. when I learned French you know I just. grew up like into it and my dialect but.

I just grew up grew up into it so I. didn't actually really learn you know. even though I didn't uh I wasn't. speaking too much early in my life I was. speaking the dialect but the language. that I really like okay I'm learning. language was English yeah but I'm. looking at you and I mean big old 6'5. brother with accent speaking French. speaking English the women they they. they.

coming well how many women can you have. I don't know in Africa I guess you can. have as many as you could for yeah but. still you have to be you have to commit. into that that's another energy to give. someone. else so so and we were talking earlier. dating. marriage uh what you want to accomplish. what you're trying to accomplish is that. in the. future I don't know right now I don't.

think about it like um I remember when I. left cimon uh I wanted maybe to get. married I don't know but what I what I. wanted the most was to have kids because. I wasn't knowing where I was going so I. wanted to leave a legacy behind me. somebody that. they will REM remember me through like. oh at. least or something right so that's. something that I really want so hard and. I think that's the only moment that I.

was thinking about marriage it was just. to have a baby right then after that I. get uh I start I get into this life that. my condition is very bad so you don't. think about women you think about how to. get out of the situation get out of this. situation and get better and then this. thing keep rolling and and even when. it's changing and getting better you're. in the same uh in the same pool rolling. the same way and until you wake up some. I'm like it's been 10 years it's been 8.

years damn but you don't feel any need. like you it's something that you want so. don't. know give me even though like u in in. Africa they been pushing me even before. I left camon to get married you be king. yeah no I say even before I left right. to get married now yeah even before I. left camon for the first time yeah my. grandpa wanted me to get married I was. 20 years. old oh they wanted us to get married and.

then not to get only married for one one. girl. multiple grandpa I like grandpa I made. it eat meat. Granda no out there is is normal yeah. yeah although for some reason at this. age people don't don't even want to get. married right before he was like kind of. like a culture people have married have.

so marriage is not as big now in. Cameroon as it was when you were a kid. because yeah because people now is so. more into this uh Western sidey like oh. yes and this and women uh started think. differently this even men they don't. want this responsibility because before. you know uh um polygamy in Africa at. first much most marriage in Africa for. men was a responsibility it wasn't to.

have fun you know even like to get. married even to have multiple wife most. of the time in the many situation he. wasn't like oh I like those women so. much it was a situation that you have to. first for example like when a guy in a. in a community was successful he need to. get married from wife in a different. neighborhood around the community so to. make to give people more many chance. because if you get married here other.

community will be like oh didn't he. doesn't care about us he should have. married a kids of us and they want you. to marry the girl from that community so. then you find out people that are. getting married just for opportunity uh. to give um opportunity for Community why. because um unlike here when you when you. have a uh daughter there all your life. is a worry you don't know how she's. going to end up you don't know you worry.

if ever she going to find have a roof or. to have somebody to take care and then. there this guy that going to take care. of of her you don't care if she's the. fifth or the 10th wife wow take it. bro and that's how some people were. getting were were getting a lot of wife. wife just to like you know give chance. to community and also one thing that was. very important if your brother or your. family member passed away and left a.

wife with children you had to take one. of you guys have to take that. wife like whether you like it or not. somebody have to take it but you're not. going to sleep with the wife though no. you'll sleep with you take the wife yeah. I'm just take it say yeah okay I'm going. take care of you and make sure yeah but. you can't take you can't take a wife and. just not sleep with yeah care you can K. you're going to take why because and the. reason why they were doing that the. family was doing that because they. didn't want uh a a wife uh to live with.

their kids and get out there get married. with somebody that will mistreat those. kids because with the situation being. very complicated I mean this guy is. going to work hard and then maybe get. home barely have food for two three. people and then if he has a kit it's for. the tree the other guy kid is it's not. my kid right so the family didn't want. that to happen so they wanted to keep. the wife and the kids into the family so. somebody have to step up and take that. as a responsibility wow I'm glad that.

I'm glad that I'm glad that in America. yeah so polygamy most of the time uh. wasn't by choice right yeah it was by. responsibility give me your four M. Rushmore MMA fighters You Know M. Rushmore is Right M okay. uh John John. okay. uh I will put.

[Music]. uh camaru. Usman okay and Adis okay. definitely uh let's pick one person that. I can to. put. ah I should. [Music]. um maybe Ken Velasquez okay I kind of.

thought you might go Anderson. Silva maybe horse Gracie yeah I. mean I would yeah uh no and this on Sila. and George St Pier yeah I was going to. say St Pierre yeah definitely yeah Geor. s Pierre I mean just saying P didn't. come to my mind but I'll put him first. yeah what about boxer who you might rush. for mer more.

boxers mik. Tyson Mike mik Tyson did you always like. boxing yeah growing up I mean I couldn't. watch Boxing but uh we never had TV. right but yeah always like box how how. did you know how did you learn about. americ American fighters or Fighters. when you didn't have I didn't know much. about American fighters uh I know much. about I know more about actors than I. know about Fighters but Mike Tyson was.

the one that was going you know like he. was globally famous so everybody. everywhere know Mike Tyson basically. after their fight uh after his fight. against Holy feet that was. like his the most famous. fight was your journey and everything. that you had to endure from the time you. were a child and going from Nigeria to.

Niger to Algeria to Morocco to the. Mediterranean to sub. Sahara was that the main reason that. you're unafraid to take on any challenge. you didn't fight professional box and. now you say you know what I think I can. beat Tyson Fury you know what I was was. the king in the UFC I was the baddest. man on the play I'm the heavyweight. champion of. UFC you know what I'm going go conquer. another sport was that upbringing is.

what gave you the confidence uh. definitely but uh I think it's also a. mindset that without upbringing we. should have in my case uh I need to go. there to have that uh I need to have. that upbringing to have that mindset but. at the end of the day uh is something. that some people have which is the right. way I mean we are all in the we are all.

competitive you know we are all here. everybody here want to accomplish. something the guy behind the camera want. to make the best piece of content uh the. guy behind the the tech the uh son. engineer want to have the make the best. sound you know like everybody want to do. something so you do your best you do. whatever it takes and. for almost every time you have to try. multiple time to make it you're going to.

fail you're going to try and uh get. wrong and get back go back figure it out. again try again it's just the same. concept for everyone you know nobody. would nobody just wake up and make it. like this usually like when you see. people that things has been very easy. for them it's cool but. when those people fall they never most. of the most of the time they never come. back because they they don't know this. hardship that wasn't like trained. prepare for the reality do you feel you.

can accomplish anything everything that. I want yes I believe that I might not. but I would I do believe that because. otherwise I will not go if I believe in. something I'm going to make it I'm not. just going to like okay let's just go. you know I'm going to give my all and at. the end of the day um the most important. thing for me is not to conquer stuff is. not to succeed is to give my all. whatever I can possibly do you know if.

the result is not what I wanted but I I. will check with myself I'm like is it. did you give your all do you do. everything that you should have done and. if the answer is yes well it happens. it's just life I move on you know it's a. experience looking at you you don't have. weight room muscles you have child you. have Labor muscles you develop this body. from a child in the sand mindes walking.

doing other things is that where you. feel your power comes from no it's. genuine in my family is oh your family. built like this huh no they are not all. built like that I mean like I think I'm. just built uh I'm just little different. physically because even my brother even. people from my uh. community community I mean they are. strong people but they are not as big as. me I'm the biggest uh in my family I'm. the potentially strong but my family is.

so strong right they are so very strong. and we we is this reputation of we have. a reputation of a strong family even. before I was born my my dad my unles. there were all but they all worked in. the same man right no they didn't no my. dad was a carpenter. it was a what Carpenter car Carpenter. okay Carpenter so he make roof the house. so that was his. upbringing um a lot of them will work.

everybody will basically work in the. farm but. again even amongst all those people my. family was was known for like being very. strong even my. grandpa uh I mean I I knew him I I was. born he was already he was already old. but he's been known as like one of the. guy yeah would you want your story story. turned into a.

movie absolutely that would be a movie. but I just think it's not the moment yet. it's not the moment because you feel you. have other things to accomplish there a. lot of thing that is coming there's. still a lot of chapter that's Miss I'm. missing you said you knew more American. actors than boxers so if someone were to. portray you in your life story who would. you like for it to be. uh I have been asked that question. before and so far I think the best.

profile that I would think of would be. somebody like um rris Alba you going. have to put him on. steals you so. tall he's tall too uh yeah I can see. that he can definitely he could he might. be the only he might be the only one. that could play you yeah he might be the. only one that could play you. yeah I think you see I think you went. for the I think you went for the guy.

with the accent everybody you went for. the handsome guy like who no that's who. you went for e youra but I but H the guy. with the accent would that you thinking. of I don't think I don't think I the. only guy and he's deceased but he's not. big enough would be chagit Boseman. because of his because he because that. black panther accent he had I mean it he. he's he's an act in accent yeah but I'm. but I'm saying it's not like I mean he's.

going to have to act he's going to have. to do that accent he's going to have to. hang around you and pick up your dialect. that's what they do when they take on. the road I mean I got to I got to be. around you and pick up your mannerisms. and pick up your your the way you talk. how you would say it or it's not going. to be authentic. yeah it's kind of like when you like. when you boxing you had to be around a. box you had to get somebody to actually. know the okay the combination the the. shots and you know how you cut the ring. off and how you Retreat and make sure. you don't go straight back and you move. to the.

side I think acting is a little. different but you think it's you want to. do it you want to try. acting maybe I think when I'm retired it. takes a lot of time though oh it does it. does everything takes a lot of time. takes a lot of time I've seen people. like uh they go for a movie for like. four months and at this point of time. you don't have that kind of time I don't. have that kind of time well the four. months is you getting ready to be this. my men job yeah this is my men job for.

now millions of people are going to. watch this what was something you would. like the kids that watch this to take. from your. story I don't know I dream never give up. yeah yeah absolutely I mean those. General speech of motivation like. determination self- believing right but. sometime I think about like.

uh my kids like okay I'll have kids that. will grow up and then I just think of. their life how they they will grow up. and. I I just find out that it's sad I mean I. did all this for like have give my. family a better situation right but I. still think that it's going to be sad. that my kid will not never understand my. story you know because there will just. be in a situation that their problem. would be none of like what what you had.

to go through what we had to go through. like okay what should we eat today like. stuff like that like could we have soap. or could it should I could I have pen to. go to school on Monday stuff like that. they will never understand but at the. end of the day it is what it is some. people still do very good. but yeah I think like. um I think self- believing is like the. key you know we would talk about like uh.

faith hope and everything but the man. that believe in him I think he's a man. that is half. succeed I want to ask you this I forgot. to your favorite food as a child growing. up and do you still eat that food. now growing up I think every food was my. favorite because we didn't. have I don't I don't recall a day that I.

see a I don't like this every meal was. the favorite one. so so when so uh is there a place in. Vegas that you can go get some of your. cameronian dishes or do you have to wait. till you get back home no really mostly. in the uh East Coast. okay yeah like New York yeah Washington. Baltimore there's a lot of African. Community even in Texas uh you will find. those what's a typ typical Cameroon dish.

oh there's a lot man you will find like. there's this the very famous one is IND. we call IND I know you're going to ask. what is that yeah yeah I want to know it. okay it's kind of like a uh Leaf kind of. like a Spanish uh with a uh. uh ground peanut you know then put all. the spice in. it huh ain't no meat in it they put meat. in it what kind of meat you can put.

whatever you want I mean so in in in in. Cameron what did you get like goat. chicken I mean what did you put it. everything we get I mean usually they. don't put chicken in dollar they will. put more like beef uh uh smoke. fish okay uh I mean not smoke dry fish. dry fish and then even like a dry uh we. have this little uh scam shrimp that are.

so little and they are dry it's very. favor so if I if so next time I come. across a a Cameroon and our best. breakfast is B Aro what's that it's like. peanut is no it's like donut it's like. donut uh our version of donut uh with um. with beans fried beans and uh with uh. po I know you don't.

know bet do I I might be willing to try. the other dish but they got so now now. that you're asking me about like food my. favorite caman food what is America food. uh because I walk around I will see. Chinese Chinese restaurant that's kind. that's kind of not like ameres I would. see Indian restaurant Mexican we we more. like what I never see American. restaurant barbecue it all depends. barbecue is not a food every no no no no. no like rib like ribs chicken now you.

you said ribs ribs is not a food. everybody rip is not a g dish oh you. talking about a dish okay where where. where are you are you in the South if. you're in the South that we got dishes. we have like mac and cheese or we have. mac and cheese is not a dish it is a. dish is what you think it is I don't. know bro what you what you talking about. a. dish a dis yes it is a dish Chicken and. chicken and waffle pancak you don't see.

you don't got American you don't got. American KN now about chicken and. waffles you talking about going to like. Ros SCH and glad it's night or somebody. no but those are those are dishes I mean. like so when you say like when you say. like dolay that's a staple of like. Cameroon cuz uh uh I had uh Kamar on and. he was saying like Fafa and he was like. yeah yeah yeah he was like trying to he. was explaining to him I had Michael. blackon on he was trying to like Fufu. yeah y'all you fuu we have fuu ours ours.

is a little different okay so like uh if. you go in Africa every country has like. its own special yeah okay they put their. own spin on it yeah yeah right like when. I send when you send dollar everybody. knows that is camon it's like Say Sushi. and they will attach Sushi to to Japan. right oh okay so so so when can we. expect to see Fran and ganu back in the. ring the square or the. Octagon.

uh definitely next year when exactly. next year uh potentially not sure. potentially March March or April. and certainly. October. okay. BR thank. you life sacrifice hustle P the price.

want a slice got the roll of dice that's. why all my life I been grinding all my. life all my life running all my life. sacrifice hustle P the price want a. slice got the roll dice my been gr my. life.