Deion Sanders receives his flowers from Shannon Sharpe | Ep. 65 | CLUB SHAY SHAY

[Music]. hello guys I'm coming to you from. Boulder Colorado for a very special. edition of Club Shay Shay on the road. with Coach Prime you know. you don't sacrifice hustle baby price. wanna slice got the roll of dice that's. why all my life I'll be grinding all my. life all my life. spikes hustle baby price wanna slice not. to roll a dice that's why all my life. I'll be grinding all my life.

[Music]. man you love getting pampered I wish I. was getting better. you know Panther with eight toes damn. oh you ain't no good so yeah you told me. we was going to be serious I thought you. was magic or something you just hide. that boy look at him you my dog I can't. be serious with you before about five. ten minutes I brought this up they gonna. kill me but you're gonna bring me. something yeah oh I took care of you I. took care of you you always do I like. this though I know because I know what.

it is and I think I love the colors oh. Jesus Oh yes Lord shake shake a black. and gold though yeah yeah only me and. you got a pair of those you ain't no. good but sometimes you good do I take. care do I take care of my dog. what do you get the person that has. everything more of everything it's a. rough year last year. if without the big toe that you that. hurt that really that really took I had. three surgeons for that but it was a. turf toe witness yeah that's what. started it yeah my brother had that same.

injury. in the same mean you had surgery didn't. do anything couldn't do anything and. they told me my foot has been dislocated. for 18 years so you do this every day. two three times a day I have two two or. three times a day yeah it started it's. hurting after a few hours and I had to. keep the blood circulating to get. movement out of it so like I could make. it to like three quarters of a game then. after that I'm on meds and everything. I'm limping I got a little stroll at the. beginning of the game they brought up. third quarter I'm limping like how long. you got to live with this forever I.

think it's my new normal I'm down to. like uh seven pills a day right it was. like 30 some pills a day what yeah yeah. everything was that bad just oh you know. I'm on blood thinners oh yeah yeah the. rest of your life oh my God rest your. life is over you know the first time I. really let people really I know openly. see this let me ask you a question what. about uh what about that third toe did. you think about that like you know y'all. going straight to that while you're. there no I just like that did you want. it straighten up he chilling though he.

didn't know you know he mad your home is. gone I mean. you probably weighed like a size 11 but. you really ate with that if you that if. that if that totally straight. that'll have a size and a half at least. two with that toast straight. yeah really no honestly I'm a 12 on this. side and I'm 11 on this side so no more. sandals for you no flip-flops for you. huh oh my good job you know what I'm. tired you know what maybe they do a. specialist with a straight face.

with a straight face though. he ain't no good he ain't no good you. come to visit a man. just go at my toes. because I become you know why because. you already know if the shoe was on the. other foot well you had to say the shoe. [Music]. that's one thing about my homeboy he. gonna be eight toes down for you. what's the saying with a 10 oh hey hey.

he ride hard he did he ate down for you. I'm glad you came to see your brother. man you know how to get up here see your. old stomach around right there right. down right down the road man you ran. that. [Music]. hello welcome to another edition of Club. Shay Shay I am your host Shannon sharp. I'm also the Prada of Club Shay Shay and. we're on the road with one of the. greatest athletes ever he's the only.

player to hit a home run in the MLB game. and scored touchdown in an NFL game in. the same week playing the World Series. in the Super Bowl NFL Defensive Player. of the Year in 1994. he's a nine-time. first-team All-Pro eight selections to. the Pro Bowl two-time Super Bowl champ. an all-decade player as a corner and a. return guy the greatest corner I repeat. I reiterate the greatest corner to ever. play in the NFL he's a cultural icon a. Hall of Fame classmate of mine. got a bunch of names he let some of.

those go neon Dion Prime Time everybody. knows him now it's coach Prime coach how. you doing I'm going to try my best there. you go now we show up we can't we okay. keep you off like this how we how. we not we talk every week and you know. what it's like so you expect me to be. serious though because I know you I know. but the camera see the camera they don't. want to do you know we could be us okay. because a lot of times you call each. other but mad look I know you gonna make. me laugh so let's just go ahead let's. just go ahead get out of the way okay.

I'm gonna be serious okay. walking on the field. you're looking in here we are in the. locker room. been a lot of different places. came upstairs earlier met you in your. office. has it sunk in yet no because we're just. closing the chapter okay of Jackson. State. and now we just opened the chapter okay. of full steam ahead right. and it's still.

yeah like we was walking in I think I. don't know what time we got in last. night because we flew out right after. the game to get here because we had some. recruits. and we were walking in like two of us. and I said do you understand this is us. this is ours. but we got to make it what we want it to. be right it's still like even in this. locker room setting up I'm looking. around like dang hey I didn't see the. pictures and the numbers on top of them. like dang those lockers are big wow they. got I'm still in awe of how good God is.

right before we move forward to Colorado. let's go back let's go to Jackson State. yesterday you participated in the. celebration Bowl for the second year in. a row and for the second year in a row. you weren't able to win a great regular. season you weren't able to like just get. it it was so close yeah what happened. yesterday okay the first year we got a. little too like a days ago okay we were. smelling ourselves a little bit and we. got humbled. we did everything right. um leading up to that great week of.

practice great week of practice meetings. consistently guys were really in and out. of the hotel they were concise they. wasn't missing curfew. we just didn't get it done defensively. right that was the thing you talking. about the number one defense in the FCS. that we just didn't play up to our. standards and we were not disciplined. and we didn't get it done we tried God. the offense tried the office tried but. special teams as well as defense and. it's a team we just didn't get it done.

and I'm I'm going forever remember this. right the second time we didn't get it. done and that hurts. for me as an hbco you Alum I want to say. thank you because you're my friend and. even if you weren't my friend I want to. thank you for the eyeballs that you. brought college game day showed up to. Jackson State yes commissioner and I. understand his nephew played on your. squad he showed up you've had so many. Scouts in and out.

yes and the attention that you brought. to hbcus. the way you've leveraged who you are. with some of your corporate sponsors you. talk about a Walmart you talk about an. American Airlines you talk about a. Procter gamer you talk about an Under. Armor yes nobody has more uniform. changes other than Oregon than Jackson. State that's right you did that yes oh. you guys a good friend of yours uh. Michael Strahan to out feature teams so. they didn't look like an alternate team. you know some guys would wear hoodies.

some guys would wear a sweatshirt or. Jackson state paraphernalia when they. you guys went on the road. Jackson State everything looking. professional so I want to say thank you. for what you've done I'm not criticizing. a lot of times we start to criticize. what someone didn't do but they forget. all the great things that you did do. when you heard the criticism that was. coming. that you were leaving what went through. your mind when people are hurt and uh. when people are hurt.

oftentimes their first response. isn't their response that should be. given okay they say things out of. emotions and anger but I listen. because when a person say stuff that's. what they really feel okay when they're. hurt and out of emotions and anger and I. just thought to myself if I didn't know. who I was and where I headed and if I. didn't know the Lord I would believe. some of those things okay.

but I know me I know my heart I know my. intentions off the rip. and I know God right and I know when he. speaks and it's funny that when I first. came and I said God told me to come here. they didn't believe it right. but if I say what God said it's time for. me to go you still don't believe it so. what do you believe right and what you. should believe is I'm LED come on. Shannon let's get both of us when the. last time we put a football uniform on. but but we're still going right so if. you don't believe and successful right.

so if you don't believe that God has his. hands on us something's wrong with you. because you got to see I couldn't have. done this by myself right had a. wonderful coaching staff or a wonderful. A.D who allowed me to do the things that. we're able to accomplish but it's no way. we could have done those things without. being led by the law right but you put a. blueprint in place you left a former. member from your staff in place yeah but. they mad because I got the pen. we put a blueprint in place but I got.

the pen right they said hey and they. upset that. so now really you're not going to get. the feeling that I gave you right. because you felt like. I let you down I walked out first and. foremost and I haven't disclosed to [ __ ]. my A.D I'm Ashley Robinson when I took. the job he said I want you to do. something for me I said what's that. he said at least give me two years. I said you got it okay. you gave him three.

it's real talk that. that's what we discussed do you let's. just say for the sake of our sake of. argument you gave them five years and. says okay I believe it what if you gave. him 10 years it ain't gonna be enough. because it's it's. and I don't I understand because it's. love right you you fell in love and I. fell in love too right and I felt like. uh. we did. more than. we were expected to do correct we just.

did it so expeditiously. that it overwhelmed you and you thought. it was easy. because what would normally take someone. several years we did it in two and a. half right. that's what was staggering. CNN had a segment where they asked is. Dion Sanders a sellout for you leaving. an HBCU people said he sold a dream then. walked out on a dream caught your con. man let me stop you right there okay go. ahead what did I sell.

I don't know I don't recall now I could. be wrong I don't recall you saying you. was going to stay for any length of time. but what was the dream the dream is that. I wanted the equality right foreign. the dream that was I wanted these kids. to get to know the ride to and get to. the NFL we did that right the dream that. we want better facilities and we're. overlooked and underfunded I've. established that and we made strides. towards that okay the dream was that I. believe. I believe that we could win I could.

believe that we could graduate at a. certain rate I believe that we could. treat these kids as and raise them to be. young men that was the dream. why did you stop dreaming hey right the. dream continues could it be the dream. that you had and the dream that they had. are different. that might be my man let me tell you. something you know how I think you know. how I dream and I don't know if that.

dream would ever align with my dreams. right because I don't just look at. Athletics. I look at everyone we're for people. right we're not just for athletes right. although that was my position. I'm in there fighting for everyone. um. you're more than a football coach you. look at that they look at yourself as. more than a football coach don't you yes. because I am God ain't just called me to. no ball. that may be the title of the position. but no matter whatever occupation you. have you got to do more than what that.

job description says you're more than. this yes right yes is that it yeah is. that what I do that's not who I am there. you go. there you go and I do understand the. people but what I don't understand is do. something about it don't you give a. little more right won't you spend a. little more time right won't you really. try to bring salt and see instead of. sitting back throwing Sticks and Stones. right and it seems like all the people. that are screaming and yelling and.

bickering and murmuring. check their given. what have they given when I was at. Jackson I told Ashley unless they. substantial Giver I ain't got time to be. meeting with them but what. about what I have a vision for this for. this school I have a vision for this. this this department. why am I meeting with you to talk about. what I should be doing and you ain't. doing that right. and to talk about all it. both of my sons is on the team right my.

daughter was playing basketball correct. and my son doing social media right so. who's all in. my mama there my sister there nieces. their nephew there so who's all in right. my dog even now. [Laughter]. all the sand are you hi who is all in am. I are you all in because I'm all in but. you said and you said something very. interesting what you just said you said. yeah you offer all these critiques but.

you ain't offering no check. it ain't even just a check. but that's what you need to be able to. compete that's what you need you need. resources without resources forget the. football part okay. let's talk about the overall funding of. school okay and we're talking about HBCU. period. I wanted to bring solvency to how we. broke. how are we always asking right why are.

we always uh in the deficit right. everybody. you mean everybody. that's a problem for me so let's. investigate that not saying that anybody. that's stealing or doing anything unfair. let's investigate it so let's find the. fault so if it's the state if it's the. government where is this coming this is. like thereof let's find it I was willing. to hire a team. to audit and find this because it's.

impossible for all of us to be in the. same situation right unless it is true. that only 77 7. of graduates are giving back right to. their Alma Mater's and when they give. it's not substantial right so I believe. that's a problem. that's the issue but you said something. you had an issue says look I don't mind. playing all these balls I don't mind. doing all this but at where's the money.

going is any money going back to the. institution you I mean with the to the. football team you had a problem with. going to classes. yes or. and saying the money goes to the general. scholarship fund it goes to the school. instead of the football. who's playing the game who's at risk. right we are so why should that not be. in this totality hours because we want. enough to get us there right and that's.

my problem and then when it comes to the. classics I just had a problem with that. it's another home game right that we. lost. we played in Miami last year which was a. classic wonderful classic at that we. played in Memphis which is a classic. wonderful classic and we played in. Alabama that could have been three home. games and if we do our mathematics. correctly and handle our business that's. at least a million and a half a game. at least we ain't see that.

that would have been great not for only. the the football department but it would. have helped the other departments as. well so that's just the way I think my. thinking is is maybe because where we've. been in life is. way down the street right it's not there. it's way down the street did you hate. going to like these meetings booster. that felt like you were playing. I wasn't doing that for what. five grand. I'm not doing that no.

my time that no no. that's the insult my time is much more. valuable than that I'd rather be doing. something with my kids. um not my personal kids my kids right of. the football team at JSU I'm not doing. that and that's oftentimes what it is. I'm not doing that. one of the comments said why couldn't he. stay at Jackson State Bill Jackson State. into a power five why can't an HBCU be.

the prize okay tell me how you build. that into a power five because if you go. into the power five conference all the. other schools I'm sorry let me re-enter. that if you go into a power five. conference uh just say the SEC. you know all the other sports have to go. too right so you're not just talking. about putting the football team you're. not know the name Notre Dame is. independent he can go the football team. might play here the basketball team.

might play there but you're not Notre. Dame right and also its criteria is that. the school has to pass to be in those. conferences right. and I don't know if that was going to be. applicable to what we're trying to. accomplish you also spoke out against. hbcus playing the University of Georgia. or playing these power five teams when. you know you've got no chance of winning. and then it's a check they give you 500. they give you six hundred thousand and. so by the time they don't give you that. what oftentimes I did a study and I.

showed it we even tweeted it out and put. it out there Shannon I mean uh and I'm. not picking on y'all I don't want you to. pick on y'all because of the incident. with the coach but I was really just. really shedding light um you had Alabama. State go and play do the numbers they. went to play UCLA correct and UCLA. requested the band okay that's two. chartered flights yes let's just do a. modest number of 300 000. correct that's.

six hundred thousand dollars correct. okay now you got to stay there for a. couple days right because you're not. flying all the way over there for a day. and come right back you got to stay. there so let's just do hotel. accommodations as well as food so you. really at a million dollars at least at. the bare minimum at the bare minimum I. think the purse was like 650. so you. ended hello you going to you in a. deficit to go get beat by 50. that's what it is and that's not fair no. no because. you can't look at that as it's surprised.

we're going to play against you you. can't look at it like that you got to. look at it as soon as lady you got to. put your business hat on and say we got. to do business right yes. but. it ain't nobody in that one it ain't no. but in that one I hate to choose that. but I'm not choosing that on the base of. what the coach said your buddy matter of. fact. I think he's a good guy too by the way I. think he just got caught up in the.

moment. you how does because also what I hear is. that everybody can't be Dion they can't. build on what he started he he was Deion. Sanders. how can they. build on what you started what you. created you could take somewhat of the. blueprint right and understand let me. just give you something simplistic we. won okay we didn't win the Championships. you oh no last two years we didn't win. that but we had outstanding records yeah. okay.

we had a quarterback that can throw yes. okay the next best team in the swag. um is FAMU right. up under Willie Simmons great offensive. mind they have a quarterback that can. spin it. go get your quarterback that control. okay because when you get we get you. down by 14 it's a wrap right so at least. go do that I'm gonna give you that. blueprint that one's easy right go do. that right because it's running the ball. running the ball running the ball sooner. later in some games you're gonna find. yourself down you got to spin it right.

okay so that that's just something. simple okay okay there's so many other. things. talk about this you you went through a. lot you went through the Water Crisis. true and how difficult was it on your. team how difficult was it on you to like. I got to win games and people don't want. to hear excuses I've known you long. enough to know you've never made excuses. right so you and when I talked to you. like we're not using that as an excuse. yeah we were going to practice yeah. we're gonna hey we're gonna find a way. we're gonna make it work out but we got. game to win and we did and uh thank God.

that that we had A.D that made it uh. and he was so helpful and uh. into what we did and what we. accomplished because we were on the same. page through through it all through all. we was on the same page and we didn't. have time for that I mean it was an ice. storm there our first year we were. taking baths in the Durham Hotel pool. man you know the coaches in that right. that's how bad it was but that's not. something that the city of Jackson can. control like the water stuff is crazy. they've been going on for years they. need to just make up be friends and get.

that fixed and that's I think billions. of dollars to handle that but we. we don't trip man you know it's so many. things it's not just Jackson That's. dealing with adolescence and ignorance. is is multiple cities but we don't make. an excuse for it we just keep on. pressing and go make it happen and. that's what we did how do you how do how. do you how did you convince your kids. to like not let the circumstance. control the outcome we keep the main.

thing the main thing every day I stood. up in front of those kids I gave them. some type of message whatever God placed. in my spirit and we prayed that's that's. how we start the day and whatever was in. my spirit I gave it to him and they ran. with it and uh they were very focused. and committed 100 and I'm proud of them. for that. the injury not an injury but you was in. Dire Straits true you had a blood clot. Klutz yeah and I knew something was. seriously wrong because we talked every.

single week yeah and there were a couple. of weeks that we didn't talk they took. my phone and I was like I woke up and. yeah. I can't say hi because I never smoked or. drank in my life so I woke up under the. influence and they said I was just. texting like ah let me take your phone. you put somebody there crazy right so. they took my phone but you're right. what was going through when they told. you your diagnosis and you in Dire. Straits they almost had to take not just.

the toe but the foot maybe even come up. the leg no it was uh first it was the. leg from knee down because I wouldn't. get no blood okay then it was uh life. okay. um wow and then it was two toes okay. and I'm thank I thank God that it got to. two toes they take them so you like a. sloth now. you say we weren't joking. see what I'm saying he told me he going. to be serious but this is who he is I'm. glad y'all see who he is thank you you.

just had to you ain't no good you know. you ain't no good but let's get back in. the camera this is how we ain't no good. okay it ain't no good yeah so look. wow that's with me forever. that's with me I mean you didn't have no. calves to begin with. I started to get some uh being played uh. with the BB BBC a BBC. well you can't. why are you down there you might want to.

hook me up man so so so what what did. what did they tell you so what did when. the doctor came in he said okay I saw. that look. first of all I had you know I had two. three toe surgeries from my playing days. and it was bad so I went to get it. checked out again because it was bad and. the lady said the nurse I'm sorry the. doctor she said you know your foot been. dislocated for like. 15 years I said how's that possible they. say I'm pretty sure you've been feeling.

pain I said yeah but we football players. right that's how we do that we didn't. play through that I dealt with 15 years. and she said you're gonna have to have. surgery I said okay. um how long I'm out she said uh you're. gonna have to I said no I'll be back to. practice tomorrow I ain't I can't do. that right just give me a knee scooter. I'm straight I went right back to. practice the next day and as the week I. think two weeks went by and they changed. my bandage every morning and uh my head. trainer saw my first two toes was black. she said oh coach we got to go to the. doctor right now this is not normal.

I said we're gonna practice first then. we're gonna go to the doctor right and. we went to the doctor you know when you. see that look yeah. and they said we got to have surgery. right now right I said so what's wrong. we gotta have surgery right now. okay what was wrong yeah so it was we. got to have surgery right now I have any. anybody in your family had blood clots. I said I don't know so we called my mama. you know my mama my mama said yeah baby. uh by the way your uncle died from blood. clots a few years back and you ought to.

uncomfortable died last year from blood. clots and I just got diagnosed with. blood clot I said thank you Mom I sure. appreciate it. [Laughter]. just sitting on that thing. yeah I'm about to check out her she's. just sitting on this stuff. so we had uh nine surgeries wow nine. surgeries in uh eight within a month and. I think I had another one after that. all that all that and.

my son uh you know chidorah's coming. every day shallow was coming but shador. came and said uh. that I need you you gotta understand he. had never played a game without me in. his life right except for those and I'm. looking at the game looking at his. passing completion percentage just. slowly going down right from 74 72. 70 68 he said Daddy I need you I said. I'll be there so that's the time we. played uh I think we played uh Southern.

and I got in the chair it was freezing. cold I was frail you know I lost about. 30 pounds right went to the game and he. brought us back that night then shallow. had the game clenching interception and. it was 21 points on the scoreboard I was. like God look at you 21 points on the. scoreboard shador made the game-winning. touchdown passing shallow clinch it I. said God look at you I guess they didn't. remember you did all that at Jackson. State but then we we moving on we moving. on. you. you got an incredible staff.

ing is going to be on your staff I think. you're bringing Dennis Thurman you got. the head coach from Mississippi Valley. you went to Kent State and got uh I got. your offensive coordinator you're with. Alabama got your defensive coordinator. but you have a lot of minorities yeah. you plucked a lot of minorities and. brought them into a situation and give. them opportunities better opportunities. to Branch out on their own right if. you're successful here at Colorado true. well I got a tree now too I got a tree. now you gotta treat it because TC is on.

your tree now right yeah. because we wanted TC and thank God that. they did that because he's a good guy he. deserves it he worked up under us so he. knows how we run a program right so I. feel like he's going to be successful. and he's going to keep it going and he's. recruiting his butt off right. you they said you're going to be the. highest paid coach in Colorado History. ain't got no bread he ain't got no bread. for you he got no bread for you right. now they might be selling some uh your.

fried fish dinners well I'll tell you. what I am for money no way that's a good. thing right because uh you know you know. we had office man right but it wasn't. about that it was about. Rick George made me feel comfortable he. made me feel like we were going to do. this together he made me feel like uh. this was a need a desire from the city. from the fans. from everyone that.

I felt like I was the guy for this job. and you know I prayed on it right and we. were definitely LED here and I'm I'm. excited I'm excited because God always. with me he does the unlikely thing in an. unlikely place right NC Jackson forgot I. wouldn't they didn't. I've read the stuff that they were. saying when they first hired me I saw. the looks when I was on stage of the. people twisting their face up you know. like we was at church and I was I was a. pastor that wasn't giving the good the.

best message that they wanted to know. because it was conviction involved I. knew what time it was you felt they were. saying or you felt it that that you only. got the job because of who you were not. that you were qualified to have the job. there you go. but now. but now now so I love the challenges man. right what we all thrive on the real men. yeah we're challenging yeah thank you I. love that we always but the opportunity. you know we say we want our black. coaches to get opportunities well when.

black coaches get opportunities you. can't then get mad at him for taking. advantage of saying opportunities you. being a a an HBCU coach getting a power. five job that should everybody should. have stood up on their chairs and. applauded we don't we don't we. we're not built like that as a people. man why though we we build the lift up. and the teardown some of us are and I. applaud those and I praise those people. right and I understand those people. those are the people that are not. narrow-minded the people that want to.

make it to the next step the people that. want more right the people that's. willing to work for it the people that. that's going to grab somebody on their. way up but the others. um. they don't want that they want to sit. there with their bow and arrows and. their guns and shoot you until you fall. down and they don't understand now that. does not make them higher to shoot you. down because you fail you're not all of. a sudden higher because he failed that. don't make sense you help bring him down. true and what we've always done we've.

always helped bring people up yes and I. don't understand how people can't see. our history. not just his story right but our history. has proven that we win right we're. winners man. and we go in yes. you always talked about your assistance. you say I want my assistant coaches. to get recognized I want them to be paid. accordingly because they work they work. just as hard as I do and don't get.

nearly the credit that I do but I want. them and so this is an opportunity for. you to bring some guys give them some. resources yes and we did and even uh the. guys that stayed there we made sure they. got increased in salaries as well and. the salaries are totally different man I. mean you can understand I had coaches. working around the clock we work our. butts off we work on every day to end. with a y Derek Jackson and you got some. coaches making 50 and 55 grand man I. mean I don't want to bad mouth that.

because some people would love that but. as a college coach yeah yeah but the. kind of hours that you got to put in. ladies and gentlemen as a college coach. that is unsatisfactory. when you came in you got the job at your. introductory press conference you say. you bringing some dogs and you're. pointing to your son and you say well. there's your quarterback and people like. man that's nepotism it's hard ain't. doing nothing they ain't never they're. real. you gotta go get a film. and watch right that's real did somebody.

what about when you said Okay God hey. some of y'all got to go in that get in. the transfer portal because we coming we. for real it's not going to be the same. it's not going to be like it was. whatever you thought you was doing and. you thought that was harder you thought. that was difficult. go ahead and make a move same speech. Jackson. then change it a little bit then altered. it one bit same thing that's what we. said and that's what we did I think we. uh rid ourselves of 70 young men that. was not chosen by us right that had no.

connectivity to our program right that. we they didn't understand smart tough. past discipline with character. and we had to get rid of them. are you not compromising any of what you. just said smart fast tough discipline. with character character. you're not compromising any of that not. one I don't play that we old school man. you know come on man [ __ ] we old school. we would talk about Old School coaches. I'm a little mixture of Coach Bowden.

um. coach Mickey Andrews coach Zim Ray. Rhodes I'm a mixture of Coach Dave cable. coach me at Peewee league coach Ron. Hoover who coached me I'm a mixture of. all these young men that were old school. did you always want a coach because I. remember I used to ask you all the time. I say time how you do it I said how. somebody of you of your statue stature. has the patience I said Man how he said. man the kids I said I get the kids but. see that's the problem they don't. understand.

you've been asking me this question for. how long see they just knowing coach. Prime but when I was out there on the. field with these little five-year-olds. you brought them to the Hall of Fame in. 2011 you brought up thank you it was. down I was there we broke seven buses. yes we played in Memphis kick butt got. on the bus when the Louisville kick butt. came to Ken Ohio kick butt like we. brought see I get excited when I start. talking about my babies yeah we brought. seven bus loads of kids and parents to. the Hall of Fame right and when I was up. there giving the speech they were right. out there yep and some of those kids are.

getting ready to come here. and play for me now. some of those same kids that were there. so did you know you always wanted to be. a coach I did when did you when did you. get the coaching bug. when I was. I was retired and I took Shiloh and. shidorah to practice okay. um and I was sitting there. and I was just watching the coach have. these kids run 10 yards apart and go and. I'm like somebody's gonna get a. concussion in here.

that's Oklahoma. so I got up and said coach at least let. him go at an angle because they're too. small for that. and uh then I get back up. they'll do another drill I try to go fix. the coaching right then I just got tired. of getting up so I just sat there and. made in my mind while I was sitting in. that chair if I'm gonna put my kids in. this I gotta run it right because. they're not going to do right right so. we started truth trusting God respect. myself and others understand I have. unlimited possibilities try my best.

never give up and honor the truth and. it's created at all times all our kids. all our parents knew that Creed from day. one our first tryout was at the Cotton. Bowl Channel we had 1200 kids trapped. what yeah. for how many positions it was one going. to be one team but I felt bad turning so. many kids away so we had two teams at. every age two five and six seven and. eight nine ten elevens were real teams. and then we start migrating to 12 and uh. 13 and 14. but we ran I ran at schools. man in the summer and had summer camps. with over 500 600 kids man that we then.

we added basketball baseball cheer track. we had everything and you had to have a. certain uh GPA GPA man to even. substantiate it we hired teachers in the. summer summer food program we fed them. three meals a day I brought several. school buses for these kids and pick. them up from all around the city out of. my pocket. so all this stuff they just knowing. coach Prime right y'all just know I've. been you've been known just like I I.

can't believe you remember they was at. the hall of fame I do remember yeah yeah. that was my babies man after the after. the Hall of Fame after our speeches I. went back to the college because we they. were staying at the dorm right and. stayed the night with them there not at. the hotel. the speculation what happened to Truth. Academy Oh you mean Prime Prep excuse me. it was the best thing that ever happened. to me. you know why because without that. failure and me. attaching myself to someone that I. thought loved kids as much as I do right.

when it was business for them but it was. all that other stuff for me. it taught me a valuable lesson man and I. never will forget and now I'm very. careful of where I put my name who I. lend my name to who I'm involved with. when it comes to kids as well that was. the best thing I feel though ever. happened to me. best thing to happen yeah failure yes. yes but you know people are talking.

you I don't know why people get so much. satisfaction when they see other people. fail yeah but they. I wish they knew what they were talking. about right I wish they knew. um you need to find someone that was. involved in that with me that understood. the only rights that I had was to my. name that was on a building. you said you've coached chidur is the. only coaching you've ever had he's ever. had what type of value do you try to.

steal in your son because also you're. his father but you're his coach that's a. very very fine line because you want to. like okay rug get it done no no that's. what shallow that was shallow you. ought no I have to be because he's that. kid that's gonna always keep you on your. knees you got to keep your knee pads on. Charlotte. he gonna keep your prayers oh you gotta. say prayed up but he's a wonderful. Talent he has so much ability it's none. that he can't do nothing that he can't. accomplish Charlotte could do anything. he wants to play the piano uh chess uh.

everything everything I mean it's. nothing he can't do it or he's going to. find out how to do it and Google it and. master it that's just who he is right. but he has to keep the main thing the. main thing and he's going to go pro. right but you do it so so what what so. you say should do it like should do her. have as from the very from beginning the. thing that you told me he says he has. one Mission he wants to be playing at. the level that you and I played at yes. and whatever I tell him. it's like he's like a sponge uh you say.

he was out there with Brady and he was. just everything everything Brady said. everything and uh he looks up to Brady. he he he uh endorses Brady's brand right. and Tom keeps in touch with him and keep. him on point and make sure he's who he. is but his work ethic is like ours right. and uh he's old soul man his nickname is. grown because he's been there we've been. calling him growing ever since he was a. shorty what does it mean to coach your. son the coach both of them is uh. I love it because I get the father and.

coach now you got to understand when we. cross that line I'm coach right I'm not. I'm not your dad I'm coach so when. they'll decide that they refer to you as. Dad or coach they better not referred me. as Dad. yeah I don't play that. I don't play that I'm coach you coach. yeah and they don't cross that line. right. so how. long when you started coaching them. five and seven. and we lied about your doors so he could. play with his brother.

but he but your door has always been. he's never played any other position. other than quarterback yeah he's always. been a quarterback he played a little. strong safety but that was just to learn. everything that the defense entailed. right so he could be a better. quarterback and shallow started out. playing quarterback quarterback. quarterback and you know he just got to. that point as his son is old. why are you gonna let him do it it is. over I said shallow you're gonna be a. corner I could teach you how to do this. you're going to get offers from all. around the country let me teach you we.

went in the backyard and we was getting. down doing some stuff I had a couple. guys running a little routes on him he. told me guy got off the jam and he. missed him clean because he closed his. eyes and spread his leg he said your. stuff don't work I said God bless you. oh well right now it's got to be. he said my stuff don't work. you went to a couple camps and he ended. up rushing people and choking them and. running them out of bounds like shallow. nasty he he he is nasty right yeah yeah.

but when you get a guy Jackson State now. I see you when a guy comes in and says I. want to go pro I want to play at the. level that you played at and I want to. play at a level that you played at. what do you say you're like damn son I. mean you don't Curry but you're like. well I mean what about the work are you. willing yeah there you go I'm saying son. I want you to do the same thing but. first of all you got to work for it I'm. not going to give you nothing I'm not. going to promise you none I don't know. what these other schools are doing but. this is who I am all right I'm not going.

to even promise you no number or no. position and I definitely promise you to. start right you have to come here and. earn every darn thing you get right then. you're going to appreciate it more then. you're gonna want it more then you're. going to understand all what it takes a. lot more so it's not a sales pitch I. just tell them about about reality we. don't promise things man right you got. to earn every darn thing you get that's. how we got down like that you got to. earn it yeah and you got to work for it. so in the process of getting guys ready. are you preparing them for life because. you know let's just say goodbye you get.

100 guys come in and go and come and if. you coach five years you're probably. gonna coach what a thousand guys okay. maybe five ten of them go pro but what. about those 900 that didn't go that's. going to have to be out there in the. real world 95 of these young men that. come through these doors are not going. to be a professional football player. five percent are that five percent that. that are. it don't take a lot it didn't take a lot. to get your hand shot ready because he. had something innate about him about his. history and his family right that he had.

to make it so my focus is really. grooming and growing and maturing and. equipping that 95 for life right so all. my morning messages and my private. meetings my group meetings with those. other 95 percent they're the future. fathers their future uh political. figures doctors lawyers whatever. teachers people that's going to shape. the communities and and become leaders I. don't have captains on that Jersey we. have leaders and we have dogs every dog.

ain't a leader every leader and adult. I don't have captives I don't believe in. that terminology but we do have leaders. and that's what we're trying to build. do you feel you're the best recruiter in. America. wait I would okay no I just pause for. the for the effect. s. you know I'm telling the truth you. thought I was just gonna answer you. quick I got to get the fact okay say it. again let me do the thing do you feel. you're the best recruiter in America. you see that look away.

now watch I come back. you're not right I am I'm not selling. them right I am who I am you want. exposure I'm Gonna Give You exposure. right we got a documentary coming out. when. it's in between go get to that that's my. job okay I don't remember yeah I'm gonna. forget no you ain't gonna forget because. I got it but they want exposure we're. gonna give them exposure we we know how. to use social media like no other right. and we didn't even have the resources at. Jackson now we do we have a whole team. right a whole plethora of people that's.

designed specifically to make you shine. and I'm gonna help you do that but I'm. going to teach you about the Nils a lot. of these guys coming out of high school. are coming from. um other colleges yeah but the same. image and likeness and you're sitting up. here with your hand groom your face. napping and you talk about you won't. name Imaging like this who gonna put. money on that right I got to teach you. what I got to teach you those things and. teach you how to articulate yourself so. when a CEO is flipping through the. channels and he see you on the news. because there's a lot of money here. right and Boulder yeah and he sees you.

he said you know what I want to invest. something in that kid. that's how it works you ain't done. nothing to earn that gift I want you to. earn something and then you're going to. appreciate it like we talked previously. so you go into a mom mom and dad mom. house grandma house you sit down on the. couch how you winning over Mom because. it really it's really the parents that. you got to win over and first and. foremost you got to understand the kid. is let's just say the kid is 18 right. okay let's just be generous and say the. mama was a good mama she had it when she.

was 22. so what does that make him look. what's that 39 40 39 40 okay. we 55 right so mama was about 15 when we. were doing that thing right Mama no no. okay so Mama done her homework right so. she all she's already. want to validate what she's heard and. what she's known we just got to come in. and be consistent with what she's heard. and what she's known and I'm not trying. to win Mama but I'm going to be honest. with Mama one thing my mama that she's.

gonna do to Daddy ain't gonna do mama's. gonna tell you the truth about her baby. now how can I help your baby be a man. right Mama gonna tell you the truth. father gonna play it off well he's. already a man. I was talking to a kid last week I said. tell me about you he was uh he's saying. uh you know I have curfew at uh 10 30. I. said you're senior in high school yeah. yeah I had curfew twin there that's what. you do. because that's odd right so what you do. yeah I got in some trouble I said let's. just cut through the chase talk about. that right and how can I help you that.

get that so you're not consistently in. trouble because if you've got a curfew. at 10 30 even on a weekend you've done. something bad that your mom and daddy do. not trust you right yeah but. really man we don't make any promises. whatsoever we want to know what we can. do to make sure that boy do you deliver. us become a man. so you go into this home what you eat. you eating fried chicken fried fish you. eating pork chops I'm not eating. everything they cook because I don't eat. everything cause you wanna tell the. truth mama can't cook I'm gonna tell my. mom come on.

mine mama come on now I'm gonna say Mom. you should put a little more seasoning. in this thing. and pop don't appreciate it because pop. won't say it but he can't. you brought trash with you Travis Hunter. yeah uh. uh I think if I'm not mistaken the first. five star ever go to an HBCU uh a. two-way player tremendous tremendous. Talent the cash that he made on fourth. down to catch the football to get it or. get both feet down he beat double. coverage to get you guys into overtime. what makes Trav special. Chad's got a want inside of him man dead.

is insatiable. yeah he has a work ethic that uh is. unparalleled. and. he ain't scared of the moment man a lot. of guys are afraid of the moment right. you know you can't call they say they. want their Rock but then you don't win. right when he's calling for it he's. gonna win I mean and I'm just seeing the. chemistry of he and shador going down. those last few drives that I'm like oh.

my God like this is gonna be something. whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa he came as a. two-way player yeah he wants to play. Corner yes play Corner he's like well. what better way to get tutelage than the. greatest corner to ever that's why he. came that's why he came that's why he. came but let's not get that. this is true yes people get that. misconstrued no he came because of you. but it seems to me that you believe his. best chance is on the other side with. your son no that's what he loved. well he might as well go there's a love.

and there's a like well he loves to play. receiver first of all. that with that ball in his hands he's. electric yeah and his route running I. mean is electric and he knows how to get. open and he he attacks the football. right DB is something that he can do. really well right better than a lot of. others right but if I had to put my. money on him right he loves catching. that football a lot more than he loved. defending it but he can do great at a. high level so when you did both I mean.

you did it at a high level in the NFL I. mean a lot of people say well yeah I. could do but yeah yeah yeah well I was. this in college or I was this in high. school it's one thing to do it at those. levels and I'm not trying to knock. anybody that played quarterback in high. school or running back and all of a. sudden they're DB but you played wide. receiver in 95 at a very high level you. like you was playing both ways legit. yeah. yes sir hundreds of snaps a game not. even getting tired how this was my life. just because you get to a certain age at.

a stage and folks start telling you what. you cannot do how's that how you gonna. tell me I can't play football and. baseball and he ain't never done that. you ain't said there but ate a taco in a. tuna fish salad in your mouth stinking. you ain't got no you're like how can you. tell me what you I don't understand that. right so I got to a certain level and. people started telling you right you. can't do both. it ain't never done nothing did you did. you do it because you could or you did. it because you were trying to prove them. wrong no no I'm never trying to prove. you wrong I don't care about your. opinion because the opinion that you. have of me is not the pain I have of.

myself correct because when I look in. that mirror I'm straight I'm straight. with him I'm straight with him man he. ain't perfect but I'm good with him. right so that's that's not the opinion I. did it because it's what I love to do. and I know I can help you win you is. gonna be you're gonna be better getting. the ball in my hands let me ask you a. question if you didn't play cornerback. if you if somebody said with time you. can't play bro you and you go and you. probably you might have been all. approach you believe you could have made. because you made the Hall of Fame with. the wide receiver yes. come on time yeah. because if.

at one point they did a stat I think. every time I touched that thing was. average 22 22 yards to catch right a. touch a return yeah because they threw. it to you they handed it to you yeah. tossed it to you yeah yeah I truly. believe that. of all the sports that you play football. basketball track and field baseball what. was the easiest sport for you. easiest what was football. world's hardest baseball you told me the. hardest thing to do is hit that ball. back.

that ball does some things to each other. any sport that you could fail seven out. of ten times and become great great and. and make two 300 million dollars in it. that's a hard sport. what made you what made you want to stop. decide to stick with baseball even. though you had this great football. career. the challenge man I love challenges and. I could not master it and it frustrated. me because I hate to lose and I hate not. mastering something that I know if I.

just had more time I could. the speed they tell the story that you. weren't supposed to run the 40 at the. combine no I was supposed to run you're. supposed to run yeah but you but you. would teasing that you might not run. yeah why okay everybody else that got. there early everybody else scratched you. ready to go you come up with your track. suit on you come at your little outfit. no stretching no warming up get on the. line it's in my office on the back of my. wall a cheetah never stretched before we. go get his prey Wild Kingdom yeah when.

have you seen a cheetah stretch before. you go get the antelope. so what were you anticipating you like. man if I don't stretch I could run this. what time would you actually. anticipating. four two four two something low photos. so if you had stretch. how fast do you say if because that's. what that time I can't touch my toes now. I thought I ain't never been a stretch I. ain't never been flexible and you just. took off you got it you're right one. time and then I ran twice I ran twice I. believe no you didn't I don't know you.

should have been there matter of fact. though I'll keep it next year okay okay. I thought we was the same year no you. was 89 I was 90. okay. all right. so. now they tell you about the interview. process you know you go in you meet with. the coaches hey how you doing there's a. lot of different teams hey how you doing. they sit down and talk to you you say. you went to the Giants and then you say. hold on when do you guys pick first of. all first of all. it was open house right I don't know how.

it was when you went but it's open house. there's ages everywhere yes girls. everywhere people in the hallways it. wasn't secluded like it is now right so. I'm trying to get away from people and. I'm back into this room right and I see. all these dudes with their heads down. like they're getting ready to take the. SAT. so I'm like what is this and the dude. hand me a phone book man I mean that. thing was thicker than a phone book. and it's how long. what pick y'all got. they said I think we have the 10th I.

said man I'd be going by then and I just. walked right now and I was being dead. serious I wasn't even trying to joke but. it is a phone book right or is that the. Wonderlic Tech some tested Jazz game why. do they do that. what is the test gonna do about about a. game on the field. me writing something down ain't got. nothing to do what you're gonna do on. the field. so you pee like I'm good I'm good no I'm. great I'm not good I'm great. did you want did you I mean you said if. Detroit would have selected you they're.

gonna have to put you on layaway did you. where did you want where was the idea. where did you want to go I was on the. All-American trip. um going into my senior year. and we went to Atlanta yeah I got up the. airport I got off the plane I'm sorry. from Tallahassee. and I'm. I've seen black folks. I got in the car to go to the hotel I. seen black folks we had a function that. we were going to the hospital to.

volunteer help I seen black doctors. Black nurses. got back in the car so we riding through. town I see black folks in Mercedes and. BMWs and. Lexus and all that kind of stuff I ain't. never seen that before it blew my mind. man right. I said wow. this is where I want to go because I was. good and ignorant right that neck full. of gold curl looked wet but it was dry. you know and I was flashing plant born. because I was straight Florida I said. Dave this is where I need to be right.

because they don't understand me yeah. and so that's when we told several teams. I'm playing baseball don't don't do it. don't even do it don't even do it well. you trying to well you were you trying. to scare them away yes. because I wanted to go to Atlanta to. feel thick. and that's I got my dream and I thank. God for Atlanta for drafting me that was. the best thing ever happened to me. it seems to me everybody is trying to. build a brand but you've got the brand. 30 years ago before before they told you.

how to build a brand sure how how do you. come up with the name Prime Time come. out there with the jewelry you come out. there with the code the gold you come. out there being outspoken but it was a. purpose though Shay I know I'm gonna. tell you the purpose okay. um first and foremost these guys trying. to build a brand first of all need to. build your game. oh I had game that was impeccable I had. a work ethic that was desirable I had. brand can't be better than the game. come on I'm doing some of these cats.

brand I don't even know your game oh why. are you what you doing on the commercial. I ain't never seen you before like so. I remember this agent was trying to. secure me. um at the end of my sophomore year. and he gave me this pamphlet of how much. everybody made in the NFL I didn't know. what that kind of stuff was disclosed. right so at that time I went down to DBS. there was no one making a million. dollars I was like good love it and I'm. going to the other position DB's was one. of the worst paid positions next to I.

believe the offensive lineman at that. time and it blew my mind I remember. dropping that list and sat down I said. oh no. right then I said. prime time now I came there in 85 with a. Thunderbird with license plate that said. Prime Time 85 Thunderbird and my mama. worked her butt off to afford the. payments and it was already Prime from. playing basketball in high school so I. took that name and just started building. a brand like you could hate me all you. want but you want to see me play so I. would I had a black book most people had.

girls numbers in a black book I had. quotes in mind I'm the best thing since. peanut butter and jelly you punt the. ball to me you might as well get ready. to hit a band throw the ball to me and. get at me and get ready to make the. tackle it was all these different quotes. that I knew they were going to come and. I just had the effect affectionately put. the quote in the right place so I built. that thing and I be Dern. I run a punch back uh what did you see. on that point I I just tell my punt.

return team when I get it just drop down. to the ground so I can see it was just. stuff like that. it's just stuff like that oh just block. four I got seven it was stuff like that. right and slowly we started building. that thing man and it worked your famous. quote if you look good you feel good if. you feel good you play good if you play. good they play good that was dead. serious that's way back in college. I think I went to my last game running. the black stretchy limo that's when. everybody was in limos back in the day. and I had this uh.

tuxedo with a Houdini hat. that's what I wore in my last game right. because I knew that was it I wanted to. go out in style and it was look good. feel good it was just that was just my. art like next full of gold see the neck. of the chains was what everybody had in. uh Florida and that's how everyone was. judged or ridicule like if you had more. weight you was more significant and back. then all the drug dealers had to wait. right so I didn't like that so I was.

trying to show the Shorties you could. have all this but you could stay you can. stay right you don't have to take that. left right because these drug dealers. they they never get old right I ain't. never seen a drug dealer get old. you know where I came from right you. just gonna go to jail you're gonna be. dead right some type of way so I was. trying to emulate this in the correct. um fashion that's why all the jury came. from how do you know your worth at such. a young age because the Falcons offer. you originally deal for 400 000 you. rejected that so give me a little meal. y'all sell the four years I think five.

uh four and a half million dollars how. did you know I believed in me and then I. had a agent at the time Eugene Parker. was a Youngster that was no joke and he. had a master plan for me he would always. talk about this master plan another. young brother that guess what I gave. opportunity to yep that no one knew him. he wasn't on the map like that right and. guess what it blew up you blew up blew. up you did yeah because he was an honest. good guy that I love to like uh took a. lot out of me when he passed away right. because that was my man he did every.

contract I ever had in my life on the. field as well as off the field before he. passed what was your first purchase. um. let me back up a little bit because you. got to understand okay going into my. junior year in the summer I signed a. Yankees contract right so it's like the. first nil so so you had some bread a. quarter meal going into my senior year. okay so so now you ain't got that. contract you got to pay for yourself to. go to school yes so the Yankees paid by.

tuition okay and I was a walk-on okay so. I could have stunt like no other because. you couldn't challenge me right so we. get on the plane going somewhere I got. you know I have on stake you know snakes. again with the thing yeah and some snake. skin some Louis you know. because you can challenge right where. you get this from me because I had. played six weeks in the summer right and. made a ton of money right and then I. know I'm going to be a top five picking. the draft going into my senior year so. it was it was a lovely day I had a crib. uh on the golf course until it has a.

condo and I had my dorm room so I was. living yeah you really live it but I. bought a uh coming out after my senior I. bought a five six today and you know cut. the top off drop that thing you know a. big long. yeah and I brought a BMW in M3 that was. probably one of the dumbest buys not. because of BMW I didn't know how to. drive a stick and I bought a stick.

what's this. [Laughter]. I'm glad we could talk about this stuff. now. so now I'm able to counsel young men on. don't no no no no no no no he ain't no. understand this stuff. nobody questions your cover skills but. everybody he ain't gonna tackle just run. the ball his way he ain't never seen. that. he never seen it right now you know darn. well if folks would have been running.

through me Left Right I'd have been all. over ESPN right you never seen that. right but when your game's so strong. they got to find something wrong they. nitpick. you that what he's saying about me you. wouldn't come see me block you come see. me catch them but they ain't never seen. you giving up no absolutely not but they. got to say it just to say so. they never seen me ain't nobody running. through me running over me running past. me it never happened. when did you realize you were different. how old were you when you realize that. I'm not like the other 10 year olds or. these love eight-year-olds or the other. three when I came out I came out the.

room like this laughs. no straight up man when I was a shorty. I had a gift man. I had a gift actually you always. different I always beat everybody you. can always run faster you could always. jump higher you could always catch but I. had a work ethic right because I saw my. mama working right working working she. wasn't there at night because she was. working working so I had to get up and I.

was always uh ahead of my time because I. was always mature so I get up and I. messed up and get ready to get myself to. go to school you know I'm gone right. with the key up under mat so I'm gone. I'm out you know that's been the. neighbors look bad for each other back. then everyone trying to rape each. other's foolish stuff that is done now. so I was always mature but I had to work. ethic because I saw her and uh I wanted. it man I I never set up for mediocrity. right I never just wanted to be on the. team right I wanted to be the dominant.

guy right on the team right and I knew. it took work to make that happen you. never led the league in interceptions. because people rarely challenged him I. mean I mean what was it what was the. game like for you because sometimes guys. would I mean you you uniform just like. you had put it on when you left the. locker room but. you know. you know. he had you you know what I'm saying you. know he had you so I didn't even want. you to look like you had me but I.

remember my song on one of my teammates. because of that. what a HEB got you in San Francisco no. no okay no. we're playing against the Saints okay. and uh we're playing two man I hate. playing two man I don't like me I don't. need them yeah. thank you I got to jump in the trail. position so I got to jam and give him a. couple steps let him get out there so. first play guy got out there ain't no. say throw the top so on film what does. it look like you got beat I don't play.

that I said no look him uh. you need to do your job man. y'all don't worry about me. no no. next play game. dope. you need to do your job man. yeah. I'll be there don't worry about me. I'm in the running film back coach you. see me I'm two yards behind the man. ain't nobody over top look like these.

guys beat me on play that I don't even. want him to look like he beat me on film. don't worry about me I got mad. okay you'll do a job now. let's go I might go get my head then it. was like that. so you went to the game with a mindset I. don't care who it is Jared Rice Chris. Carter Michael Irvin Sterling sharp. y'all didn't get nothing good. at least brother.

[Applause]. hey hey he said that. Sterling I ain't got nothing to do with. that he said that um. your brother's too big and strong and. physical. what are you talking about hey hey man. look here first of all if you back off. him and he catch a hitch who's gonna. tackle it. and then you get up there where he could. grab you he getting everything. come on. I ain't messing with that you got that. no that's man dog.

so you so so what was I mean you had. some epic battles with Michael. especially Jerry yeah you and Jerry I. mean use like Mike Mike was like in. practice with Jerry we went at it I mean. folks would stop to see us go at it Mac. was the same way man Mike was a dog man. right and Mac had a whole different type. of game and uh Jerry was to Andre Rison. was a dog right yes I played with some. guys that can go to work and we went to. work in practice but Jerry and I because. of the previous battles the practice. against him it was.

it was very interesting right yeah yeah. it was it was good it helped both of us. did you ever go into a game did you not. like a particular player at times like I. never I never dislike someone if someone. talked about me is that's a. misconception I never talked on the. field you you talked like this I was. provoked. no some people you ain't like though. some people you ain't like and you did. your homework and you founded everything. you talked about it like a dog don't. think I don't know yep I know I knew. what to say that's right yeah I'm trying.

to get to keep a couple cheap 15-yard. penalties you did you were really good. at it I I was very good really good at. it but I never talked to my opponent. right I never never say nothing did they. talk to you please don't talk to me they. might have started out talking they. talking to me they don't say nothing no. because there's a possibility I'm trying. to get this thing and half step this. thing you ain't even gonna do that. because you know there's a point in this. game that this thing may go to the house. the quarterback ever said I'm not afraid. I'm throwing in your side no. I just run around the field like I walk. around the field now it goes kneel down.

by the punnel. like boom boom that's a good one that. dog dang you good you kick it again boom. oh you're gonna make a tackle on that. one if you do that. and I just hit up a joke. the Super Bowls. you left Atlanta and I remember you said. Atlanta was trying to get trying to turn. me into a loser they were trying to get. me comfortable with losing ain't no loss. in my life I think I think Atlanta. though because I didn't know what how.

much they were blessing me right when uh. they didn't offer me a contract and. allowed me to go to San Francisco right. they were blessing me because I didn't. understand it too until years later that. they understood we're not a winner we're. not going to win anytime soon. this guy's different let me let him go. so he could win right right now and. that's what they did for me because they. never offered me a contract and I. thanked them to this day for that I mean. let that sink here ladies and gentlemen. this man's a free agent and the team did. not offer him a contract right I didn't.

just leave it man you think I'm gonna. leave Atlanta no please who wants to. leave the land on their own recognizance. right at that time. when you came to Atlanta when that. freaked [ __ ] was in full sweep. we talked about the Super Bowl we talked. about the Super Bowl shout out to Luke. that was the Super Bowl. a party y'all think y'all there's a. great word that you chose you took a. time to say party yeah. wow with the Super Bowl your proudest. moment in the NFL.

because I remember you said something. that like you won the Super Bowl and. you're supposed to be but you didn't you. didn't feel as fulfilled you didn't feel. status it's gonna trip you out. what my proudest moment was this is. gonna trip you out. we had a quarterback that quarterback. that Scout team. when I was in San Francisco. Billy Musgrave Billy must he came to Mid. Denver I called him us Groove all right. he was our scout team guy so he gave us. the work and you know I was like I need.

to be challenged like this like I would. pick my scout team receiver that way I. need you this week Mike is a big guy I. need the big receiver I need you to work. me this way I want him to work me and. Billy was the quarterback. Billy didn't get to play the whole. season even though we were beating. people I think Steve may have taken. during all the snaps so we are up by. margin in the Super Bowl and I went to. coach uh Sebring I say. put Billy in you can't look back at me. as I'm dead serious.

put Billy in. and Billy ran out down the field man and. let him throw man don't just put him in. handball I'll let him throw away and he. he got to throw a pass I believe. but that. was my proudest moment because that's a. guy that worked his butt off the whole. season that didn't get the reward but. that day I felt like he got it he got to. play in the Super Bowl man you made a. joke about your exit from Jackson State.

was kind of like your marriages. I did because I don't remember you did. what did I say you said uh he was like. you said something like I I don't. remember exactly uh I don't think I I. think they were probably upset that. y'all were getting divorced kind of like. Jackson State was upset that you were. leaving I don't know maybe they were. happy you were leaving Jackson State. clearly wasn't happy that you were. leaving you brought Brittany and rinner. in to talk to your players what were you. trying to accomplish by bringing her in.

this this uh uh social media influence. Britain Brittany is a. real woman okay she keeps it 100. she keeps it straightforward and. she is a tremendous influencer on. Instagram bringing her in to talk about. game right from a woman's point of view. right. was unbelievable had I had Brittany. Renner in.

a meeting when I was in college I might. be about 15 million dollars more. yeah. Richard. because she broke it down. to these guys her gaming what she was. trying to accomplish the women just just. and she even told them I got more the. coldest line she said. I got more checks in my DMs than Nike. I said wow. that mean they had her yes okay and.

she's trying to tell them how this has. played out she said it's women out there. to do their homework they know. everything about y'all because you tell. on yourself on the ground they're on. social so they know how to go get you. and you thinking you conquering it then. you ain't because it's all a plan you. think you run a game and they run a game. on you. she was unbelievable and I'm hoping and. I know a few guys learned tremendously. from her speech she brought us uh she.

opened a lot of eyes when you sit down. with guys and obviously they want to. know. about the game. the the football game but what advice do. you give young players when you when. you're talking to guys I mean now your. coaching is going to be a little bit. harder for you to get up but everybody. would always you know ask you questions. coach time Prime what advice do you give. these young guys what advice did you. give them in what regards because it's a. we're talking about a whole plethora of. things yes I could say how to approach.

the game. the game of football game of football. first of all. you gotta love it. you you really got to love it there's. some people in life with it this game. will love to pay because I think. sometimes sometimes they love to pay. more that's what I'm saying so the thing. about it the game gonna give you what. you give it right and when you're not. giving it enough it ain't gonna give you. nothing and you can't prostitute the. game you can't just seduce it and it and. and act as if it's going to produce a.

child for you it's not going to do that. the game is sophisticated man and the. game has game the game understands what. you put in you're gonna get out the game. understands that uh there has to be. affection and attention and. consideration for it for to give you the. results that you want this game is real. and you can't just love this game just. for this amount of time it's like a. woman you got to love her intensely you. got to take her home with you you got to.

take her out with you you got to just. shower her with gifts and and focus. because she needs it and she wants it. and she gonna bless you and make you. feel good in all the right ways but. you're gonna have to. do what. hadn't been done right for this game. what about life what advice do you give. the guys about The Game of Life. the game of life has the scoreboard. unfortunately. and it's measured by oftentimes what you.

have on your shoes your clothes where. you live and that's not right but it. does have a scoreboard but since it has. a scoreboard you don't have to worry. about keeping score that way but how do. you play to win. because anybody that keeps score I got. to play to win some fool said want to. it don't matter if you win a loser how. you play the game I said yeah if it. ain't got no scoreboard right we go for. a reason as long as it's a score they. got to win yeah so it does matter if you. win or lose.

but I want these guys to always. focus on winning and dominating you can. but it also has to be a plan man I'm a. planner man we don't do anything without. making plans no we don't do anything. with not being on time right yeah so. life lessons are deep it depends on the. situation because I could really go into. depth in detail because I got 115 young. men as well as trainers and Equipment. persons that I got to pull into because. they're part of my story yeah they hang. on you everywhere and I want them to and. I got to be filled I got I can't be.

empty because when I'm empty empty I. don't have nothing to give so I got to. keep myself full and I can't have. distractions and and dissension and mess. I can't have ignorance or none of that. so I don't let the family bull drunk get. involved I don't do that okay I don't. know how people do that I don't do that. they my family know the quickest way to. exit my life is to bring me some bull. jug and some drama friends as well I. don't I don't do it I'm too old and too. bold for that I don't play it when you.

when you were doing what I did you. talked about football and you did that. guys when you say it okay this was wrong. or this guy didn't play well they took. offense to that and you really never. went back at guys I mean I call you was. like bro it just just pulled a tape that. was all you'd really say was it hard for. you to bite your tongue because. sometimes as an analyst yes yes because. sometimes guys was challenging you. because you got to understand dog they. look up to us right we go jackets right. and we but we still got a job we're.

different yes but it's the way you do. your job so you do your job well dog but. you're much more outspoken right than I. was see I could never be critical of DBS. right because it was over right I say. yeah but but you but you the DB God. though yeah but you speak on everything. I just spoke on one thing right you. speak on everything and we look up to. you and we look out for you and your. words Empower us right but the same.

words that Empower us they take the ad. us right because that's how much effect. that you have on people I don't think. you know man I think sometimes they. think that when I say something it's. personal no and you know it's never a. person that person with you I mean I can. criticize someone and I see you on the. street and Brooke you up yeah I'm. because there's power in your tongue. you know that. I didn't at first.

I didn't the first time I I mean until. you you pulled me I mean you you did. this you pulled me to the side I'm like. bro I'm just speaking the truth I mean. it's not as personal with you he said. but you don't understand who you are and. what you've done right A lot of these. guys are trying to do what you've done. so they have a a gold jacket wearing a. three-time and the pro bowls and All Pro. and all decade. see normally when a normal pundit a guy. that didn't play or if he did play it. doesn't have the credentials you could. say well what did he do what did you do. they could never say what I did great.

it's documented so I've tried to do a. better job but I can't I just got to. tell it like you you got to be you and. you can't stop being you I can't but you. got to stop caring. about what they say thank you because. they're gonna say it anyway right but. you're as long as your heart stays pure. right and you're not doing it with. anything. nothing like that right ain't never seen. you mad at nobody no I don't know it's. not that serious I ain't never seen you. mad at nobody or have a dislike of this.

thing or talk about anybody ain't never. no in my life and I've been knowing you. for a long time and I know you ain't no. good but I ain't never seen you he said. I'm no good for another reason not. because of anything here oh no not. because anything else but a whole nother. reason yeah yeah that I've never seen. you uh treat anybody unfairly and I pray. for you you do yeah I appreciate that no. I do because you though you're our God. it is sort of like. how they.

lofted me up there at Jackson and I was. supposed to do this and they wanted that. you're our guy. so. you fight for us I do you bring. equality to us like you give our side. and you tell us when we're wrong and you. substantiate when you when we write yes. but you fight for us and we admire that. dog we love that we need that it's not. something I get into or something. because there's going to be some bullet.

jump four times a year I told you that. it's gonna be some bull jump full time. yeah somebody gonna call it hey boy one. thing about your boy he got your back. now he ain't telling no lie he you know. he check you when you're wrong but he's. gonna tell the truth when you write yeah. and you give you always bring a. different perspective than what I. thought because I wasn't even thinking. that way and I'm glad that you have this. platform because you got time to flush. out your thoughts yes yes I needed more. time but you always told me that you. told me when I got this job at CBS say. you'll be good at it he said but that's. not your final platform that's not your. that's not your final calling that's.

right he said you need time he says I've. been around you and the way you think. and what you have to say you need more. than intense that I think they do that. in over 30 seconds you know who's trying. to do it in 30 seconds 15 seconds then. they hauling rap why are you talking. uh you almost cussed one show yeah. mother. [Laughter]. I want to say congrats thank you I mean. from the bottom of my heart no one is. more deserving I know what you put in to. get to this point so you're very. deserving of everything that you've. gotten to this point and I want to say.

thank you for what you did at Jackson. State I want to say thank you for. bringing a lot more of attention. hbcus were were good before you arrive. they're going to be good but I hopefully. they become better amen because of what. you've done. best of luck here. one more thing I saw all the celebrities. that you had at Jackson State are you. gonna have the celebrities like that at. see you and you know it I try to bring. Gillian Walo on the flight didn't they. but they had to go shoot a show but you.

know everyone has called and said we. riding with you boss we got you opening. Saturday pierce your boy here I'm. holding it I'm holding the seat right I. said I'm off because I can't put you in. the stand cause they're gonna get on. your nerves right there and I know. you'll be here your boy you know your. boy be here you know your boy rock with. you oh no I know you're gonna rock with. me I know you're gonna be a little bit. more busy now so I probably won't get an. opportunity to talk to you every week. that's a lot you come in the summer. you show my tight end so I got you I got. you but I love this man you got a it's a. doctor series Amazon Prime video coach.

Prime and we'll be able to watch the 20. everything. behind us everything the entire 2022. season Jackson State yeah yeah so we're. gonna see the highs the lows the. in-betweens the how I really felt about. some things that I really couldn't. disclose right you're going to see how. it played out right because a lot of. things they know how to play it out. right well you know we keep receipts yes. and we're going to play it out it's. wonderful why would you want people to. get that kind of glimpse into your life. into the into working the behind the. scenes of what it's like to be at a.

college program particularly HBCU. because our kids want exposure. and I promised them I would give them. exposure okay now you're getting to see. our program on the inside and out and. what these kids want followers right. they want likes right they want love and. we're going to give them an exposure. that they deserve are you are you going. to put something together like that at. CU for your first year. that you already know yes already that's. already the one you already know bye dog. I don't much love baby.

still ain't no good. [Music]. I. [Music]. [Laughter]. thought oh like this is unbelievable and. to think that God chose me. and my staff for a task.

I I love it but it's it's. I don't have words and honestly I'm. still in awe of. this. because we didn't dream about this right. our dream is always about the kids right. it just so happens this involves the. kids okay so that's what the dream was. about let me make sure these kids get. what they want let me make sure these. kids get exposure they won't let me make. sure these kids. um make it to the NFL make sure these. kids be professionals let me make sure.

these kids develop you know maybe be. great men have a great great be great. life yes. that's what it's about this just comes. along with it. with the ever a plan you coach little. league you coach High School football. you went to an HBCU with their timeline. it says you know what if if I don't get. a power five job no I'm just going what. do you want thinking about I wasn't. thinking about coaching like. should always get ready to go to FAU. with Coach tagger okay Charlotte was at.

South Carolina baby girl was still. hooping and I was like oh I get to chill. right I've been chasing and running. after them yeah you know coaching every. team that has some yeah baby yes I'll. get ready to chill right. then the call started coming okay. and I said for real. so let me get prepared you know how we. are yes yes let me get prepared let me. put the staff together let me do it not. to cut you off but when you were. coaching your kids in high school no one. no school picked up the phone that's. when it started happening that's when. coach Ray okay pretty Tony and Constance.

was the management team like you know. people are calling but you coaching this. is what you mean coaching the next level. I see what you mean they say coaching at. the next level. right I can't go on the interview and. not ready so we start getting really. prepared I mean prepare prepared right. so when we met with them we gave them a. whole synopsis of this is your three to. five year plan this is what I'm gonna do. right in three to five this is what I'm. gonna make it happen this is your roster. and what you currently have this is what.

we could go get right now right that's. how it came about okay. so with Jackson and with Jackson State. the only job that you interviewed for no. I didn't no no not whatsoever. um there were two power fives okay and. uh then once the calls start coming from. Jackson. I don't know what Jackson was right I. had to really do my homework and. understand. um the history right of Jackson then the. history of hbcus I had to do my homework.

okay that's a true story. and then I started thinking. hey. especially with what was going on in the. pandemic George Floyd and so forth hey. this might work God what you trying to. do because I knew I was overqualified to. get those right but you closed the door. so what you trying to do. let me right there. um Ashley Robinson had been calling me. A.D and uh Jackson had been calling me. for. weeks at a time and he's good he did his.

homework and the thing that really got. me he said How's bossy doing. it was just a match made in heaven right. I met with him and uh the rest is. history the rest is history. look around. this. this you hear. power five D1 all that you here. [Laughter].

I mean I could see them cheering and. chanting I can feel the emotions I can. feel the hunger and The Thirst and the. won't for us to just fall out right some. dogs to run out of that Tunnel right you. know behind Ralph and do anything let's. get around here. okay okay. I'm on your side take that right turn. and you know they say you know we're. mean yeah yeah you ain't the old prank.

yeah. right I can feel it Shannon like this. this is uh. this is it man this is this is. we gonna pack this thing man. when you laid your head on your pill at. night and dreamed and bought. is this what you thought. I kind of see the conclusion of it okay. before God showed me the beginning. that's why I say I just see it packed. and people scream chanting and sharing.

and they're happy in that lady and we. went right. and women right and winning. that's what I see. you know I want to give the University. of Colorado some credit everybody talks. about diversity John Embry I played with. him at Denver uh Carl Darrell uh I. forget the guy at uh Mel Tucker and now. you four I think in the last 15 years. it's been four that's that's a tribute. to Rick George A.D.

he's a unbelievable human being a. God-fearing man a man that understands. people. and a man that does not see color. he sees the need and the desire and the. one okay and he try to bring. connectivity to the one and leave with. that person and tries to bring them. together. um. he is the reason I'm here right because. I met with others right several others. okay. but he was the difference man he was the.

difference yeah you can understand this. is unlikely for me right. Florida right he lived in Texas yes so. you know all this come on you've been in. the southwest exactly you know I never. played in the snow right 14 years right. now never played this enough wow I. remember it was so cold one time in. Green Bay I said I go out when it's time. to kick off. so doing this. checking the weather every day.

I see Rick man looked pretty cold there. to me you're gonna send me a beautiful. picture of a day like this right he said. no it's about 62. you said uh uh the A.D. president they made an impression on you. you're not easily impressed yeah a man. is a accomplished As You Are. been where you've been you have heard a. lot of sales pitches what was it about. his pictures man in his heart and his. passion for this University like he. wanted to make change he he said that. they deserve a winner and I feel like.

you're a winner yes. um this is what I'm gonna do I'm gonna. make sure this University. wins before I leave here. that's what he said and we're going to. do everything we have we can to give you. the resources to make that happen right. and it has been true since the day I. said I do. do they. do they know who they hired yes.

all right can we can we act right please. okay okay right they know so they know. okay what you mean by that because I. know you yeah so you come here yes yes I. think it'll be great for the job. second of all get to it you like. I really appreciate this opportunity I. just want you to know this opportunity. will not be wasted or squandered.

um I believe in you thank you for. believing in me I mean you all that's. not how you really talk because. and then it's like well we want you to. be yourself. you switched up on them so I know how. you go no no trust me you gotta. understand before uh Rick got in that. call I got him legit to come see me you. know they did their homework yeah yeah. and they know you know and uh one thing.

that he elaborated he wanted me to be me. I said it's good because I don't know. who else to be how can I I don't know. how I'm the best exactly just like you. ain't no other shakes no come on baby I. called you you know that right and ask. you about this yeah people don't know. that I don't because you you my brother. I know and uh and I know you know I gave. you I gave you my honest opinion and uh. but I want I wanted you to share your. joy I was happy for you know I was happy. for you I said brother I'm so happy for.

you but I wanted you and that's like you. know. like duh yeah I knew that's not my place. that's not my place to steal this. thunder the man is. going to be a head coach of the power. five from a from an HBCU which that's. never happened. he's got to share that moment not me he. you know what I know you like a book and. you know how much I love you and I know. how you feel about me yeah he was mad. with you and the folks I was. because they only see what you didn't do.

and they don't give you credit for what. you did do and I was very disappointed. in that and so but one thing about it. one thing I know for sure oh you don't. have me back but but you're a straight. shooter one everybody appreciate it. ain't no punches if I'm wrong you're. gonna tell me you know you don't call me. I will call you for it. you'll call me first let me know okay. I'm getting ready to say that yeah so. that's what I love about it that's the. resp that's the respect that we have for. one another and when I'm wrong if I say. something on there he's like bro I don't. agree with you on that and I'm like okay.

so how's your opinion right yeah how can. you be wrong with your opinion the one. thing that you did tell me and I've. tried to do take a you know. he's like you have to understand how. credentialed you are do you understand. who you are your word carries weight. you're not just some pundit on TV right. you're three times. Super Bowl gold jacket wearing. and you're a real one yes so you have to. so they're gonna take what you say to. Heart a lot more because they know you.

know what you're talking about and. they're fans of yours yes yes so it's. like man I looked up to you and you. offended me right right like how can you. shoot at me and I looked up to you man. like everywhere there's a lot of time I. say y'all offended me with that play. come on. Words cannot properly Express how proud. I am of you thank you what you've been. able to do where you come from I know. how much you wanted a moment like this. I'm proud. you know if you ever need anything from. me you know you can call me and if I.

don't have it and I know somebody that. does I'm going to put you in touch with. them so you can get it to make sure you. have everything that you need to be. successful I know you're going to be. successful you've been successful at. everything you've ever done in life you. know I I don't love you like a brother. you are my brother ain't no people say I. love him like a brother no this is my. brother and I'm so happy for you I'm so. proud of you bro. I need one thing though because you just. told me that anything I need what you. need. these houses. do I know a realtor can you get a hookup.

I need a hookup for getting the reels. I'm about to put two trailers on some. property. hey I'd be sleeping in your car ain't no. I can't even move you gotta Sprint them. you got a sprinter van right no I don't. oh. I've been sleeping maybe I know somebody. that can hook you up with a sprinter you. got one I ain't got one I ain't got one. but I can get you one all my life. sacrifice hustle baby price wanna slice. got to roll a dice that's why all my.

life I've been grinding all my life all. my life. sacrifice plus will pay the price wanna. slice. that's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life. [Music].