Blueface On Relationship With Mom, Chrisean Rock, Kids, Prison, Tattoos, Jake Paul & NLE Choppa

I got a lot of hood [ __ ]. >> I mean, say you got like a paper. airplane or something. >> Yeah. >> What is that? What does the paper. airplane signify? >> Fly. >> So, are you done now? >> Nah. >> Wait, you ain't got nothing. What? What. the hell you going? >> I don't get my nose, too. >> But I'm still like trying to figure out. what what [music] like what would be, you know, worth getting. >> Nothing. [laughter]. I'm thinking nothing. >> All my life been grinding all my life. Sacrifice hustle paid the price. Want a. [music] slice. Got to roll a dice.

That's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life. All my life. [music] been grinding all my life. Sacrifice hustle paid the price. Want a. slice. Got to roll the dice. [music]. That's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life. >> Hello, welcome to another episode of. Club Shay. I am your host Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay. stopping by for conversation today as a. platinum selling rapper, a West Coast. recording artist, a polarizing media. figure, a vir internet sensation, a. charismatic MC, a devoted with a devoted.

fan base. He's a household name. Here he. is, Blueface. >> Wow. >> What's up, bro? You good? >> What an introduction. I love it. >> You love that? >> I love that, >> man. Let's get right into it. I saw the. other day um that you had stopped. smoking and stopped drinking. What went. into that decision? Um, just jail. I guess I kind of went a long. time without it, so. just stuck with it, you know, working. out now. >> Right. You look healthy. I mean, when. you walked in, I'm looking at like,

well, damn. He don't look all thin and. >> emaciated. I mean, you I mean, you look. like I I can tell you've been working. out, but you look healthy. You look You. look happy. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely healthy. Definitely healthy. I'm in my prime. right now. >> You're in your prime. >> I'm in my prime. >> You're about to turn 28, right? >> 29. 29. >> Yeah. >> 29. That's not That's a a very short. life. What do you think the 50 year old. moving forward 20 plus years would look. back into a 28 29 year old blue face?

You would have been better without that. one. [laughter]. >> That one? What? That tattoo? That young. lady? What? What? What? What would you. have been better without? >> Probably a few ladies, you know. better out without a few ladies. [laughter]. >> You say you stopped because you when you. went you you went to jail for a little. while and you didn't have it in there. and so you've realized that you could. you could live without it. You could do.

without it. >> Exactly. >> Is is was that had you not had to go. through that experience would that was. something that you would have. voluntarily quit on your own? >> Definitely not. Oh, do you think you drinking, smoking, do. you think that led to some of the bad. decisions that you made? >> Yeah, probably not smoking necessarily, but drinking. Yeah, maybe. Um,

>> cuz I'm a reactor, you know. Yeah. So, I. I I react. I don't really act too much. So, a lot of the decision I make, I. don't really. >> You don't really think about it. You. just reacted at the time. >> Exactly. So, but I think maybe the. liquor. maybe have uh made my reaction a little. bit more detrimental than than others. >> Right. What do you think some of the. worst decisions that you've made while. you know maybe not being intoxicated but. you're drinking to the point that. >> you're not in you're not thinking. clearly and clearly you probably would.

not have made the decision that you made. had you not been drinking. Uh. probably gave a couple passes, you know, >> wouldn't have put my hands on a couple. people, >> right? >> That's all really. I mean, it's never. really got me like u tooken over me or. nothing, you know, it just might be a. little gas, extra gas in a tank. [laughter]. >> Do uh have you ever partaken in hard. drugs? >> No, [clears throat]. just weed and liquor.

>> Just weed and liquor. >> Yep. >> Was it hard to give it up? Um, in the beginning, yeah, you know, go. through withdrawals and stuff, you feel. like you need it, but as time goes on, you don't really. need nothing. >> But how, let me ask you this. When you. still do what you do, you still go out. and and I don't know if you still go to. clubs, but probably some of the homies. that you hang around, they probably. still drink, they probably still smoke. How hard is it when you're around that. environment? It's easy when you're not. around that environment and other people.

are not doing it. But when you're in. that situation and they're smoking, they're drinking and you like, "Damn, I. remember the times I used to be able to. do that." Is it hard? >> No. That's when you know you truly are. like um over it. You know, once you can. be around it and not like be uh tempted. or just want to do it just cuz you're. around it, that's when you truly like. >> moved on. I feel like. >> when you when you're incarcerated and I. you know I've talked to a lot of people. that's some people not a lot but a few. people that's been incarcerated. I had. wallow on here and he was saying like.

that. you really get an opportunity to really. just think because that's really all you. have is time. >> literally. >> just you and your thoughts. >> literally. >> about man I'm not coming back here and. everybody a lot of people say that blue. face and they end up right back there. >> Yeah. >> Have you told yourself that I ain't. going I ain't being back I'm not going. to put myself back in this situation. Definitely 100 times. Every night, every. every day, every phone call, you know, people acting funny. I always told. myself, I only I'll never come back here. unless it's life or death, you know.

>> Wow. Did people switch up on you once. you went in? >> Yeah, definitely. >> People that you thought was cool, that. was down with you when it was going. good, they was right there, but all of a. sudden it's not as good as it once was. >> Once was, and now you're here and. they're like, >> they ain't answering the calls. They're. not calling. They're not checking in. Yep. That's that's that's what makes the. difference right there. That's what. wakes you up, you know, and makes you. want to better yourself, you know, get. in shape, >> right? >> Work out, >> you know. Um,

prison is pretty like um up to date. these days. They got classes and. whatnot, you know, self-help groups and. college courses, >> right? >> So, that kept me out of the cell a lot, you know, in my mind off of uh just. that, you know, you don't be thinking. about that all day, >> right? just only reflecting when when. it's when when you're looking in the. mirror. No. >> Right. Because you're in there, you got. I don't know 24 months, 36 months, or. however many how much time you had in. there. >> Yeah. >> And like you say, you have classes. But.

when you go in there, I mean, you. probably they probably shut it down what. 5 6:00. >> Yeah. About that 8:00 probably. >> 8:00. >> Yeah. >> And then basically you there what time. is wake up in the next morning? 5. >> Yeah. Man, place I was at, we had child. like 8:00. >> Damn. >> 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. >> You might have been home. Were you sure. you weren't home? Damn. You go to bed at. 8, wake up at 8. >> Yeah. Type stuff. >> That ain't that ain't that ain't what. I'm used to hearing about. Like they get. you up early first thing in the morning, 5:00. And.

>> me neither. It was it was it was like um. it was very freestyle there. Like the. staff wasn't wasn't too like programmed. >> They weren't on your head or anything. like that, huh? >> Definitely. >> I'm just saying the schedule they was. like on black time. that way. [laughter]. It was on black time for sure. Usually. when I was in Deleno and reception, you. know, it's the same thing at the same. time every day. This prison was like, "We might get y'all at 8, we might get. y'all at 9.". >> Damn. >> Exactly. So, you just sitting there just. waiting for the door like they're going. to open it eventually. [laughter]. >> What was the food like? Did it make you.

miss home? >> Definitely. Yeah. That's all I could. think about was just a. McDonald's, a home-cooked meal, anything. really. But um it's a lot of rice and. beans. >> Damn. So what's what's a typical. breakfast? You wake up that normal day. What's a typical breakfast consist of? >> Um so when I go to child, it'll probably. be some oatmeal on a tray, a banana, some um a piece of bread, and a piece of. chicken. Like a chicken puck patty type.

thing about this big. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> You couldn't get seconds? >> Nope. They watching, too. >> Hold on. So, you get a a piece of bread. >> Mhm. >> Maybe some oatmeal. >> Mhm. >> A banana. Yeah. >> And a chicken patty. >> Yep. >> Uh water to drink. Milk to drink. >> Milk. >> Milk. >> And that's it. >> That's it. >> So, a grown ass. So, okay. That's at. 8:00. When is lunch? >> They give you lunch right there, too. So, they give you. >> Hello. You get breakfast and lunch.

together. >> Exactly. So, you only get two hot meals. and then lunch is like a cold like. sandwich bag meal. So get when you go to. get the breakfast, they going to give. you a bag with. >> which Yeah. with a peanut butter and. jelly in there and some peanuts and and. an orange probably. >> Damn. >> Yeah. It's pretty. >> They give you just enough, I guess. Right. You know, >> but if you got stuff on the book, you. can go to commissary and you can stack. up get stuff like that. >> Yeah. There some people that don't even. go to child. They all off the commissary. like they don't even. >> I was doing [ __ ] [ __ ] thinking.

>> I ain't too bougie. I'm eating. everything on this tree, man. [laughter]. and your tray. All right. You know what? They can shoot it over here. >> Right. >> But yeah, everybody was like, "I'm not. eating this." All right. >> But some But you can have a hot plate. Do some people have some guys have hot. plates in their room and I see them cuz. I see they be cooking stuff and then. this is what you make and they make all. kind of stuff. >> Yeah. No, they can make their own. breakfast, you know? >> I just don't cook. So, it's like I need. that milk. [laughter]. That's that's going to add up at the end. of the day, >> right? This episode is brought to you by. Prize Picks. It's the holiday season,

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>> Uh was that moment? I had a moment just. because it was like uh something maybe. that I wanted to do. I did with my dad. type thing. >> I think my dad took me to a game, >> right? >> So it was just cool to. >> plus I never sat on the floor before. So. it was just just doing that, you feel. me? Was just. >> right. >> Oh [ __ ] So having him there just made. me even more vulnerable and he's he's a. good dude. So he he right. >> he he he makes me soft a little. >> Did uh but the internet didn't. understand that moment, did they? No.

>> They thought it was something more. sinister. Something actually going on. that made you cry. >> Yeah. You know how they do? Yeah. >> But no, it was just the moment, man. They got fireworks and [ __ ] going off. inside the stadium. I'm like, damn, this. is cool. I ain't never been this close, you know? >> Right. >> You're the father of three. What type of. father are you? I am a fun dad, you. know. Um I just come in and and make it. have a good time. >> No discipline. >> It's hard for me. It's hard for me. >> Why is it hard?

>> I don't know. I just. >> cuz you know they're not going to be. kids forever now. You know, kids grow up. to be, you know, young adults and then. adults. >> Yeah. I feel like it'll get easier for. me once they grow up a little bit and I. can. >> It going to be too far gone. Blue face. >> No, no, no. They mom is is doing it. >> Okay. >> They they doing the discipline part. I. just come in and you know, mommy, mommy. was being mean to me today. Oh yeah, don't be mean to him. Stop that. [laughter]. That's me, >> right? >> But uh yeah, like once they get older, I'll start being more um hands-on with. the discipline, but they just too cute. right now.

>> How different are you as a father as. opposed to your upbringing? >> I don't think I'm much different. It's. crazy though. I feel like I'm kind of. like my dad in a way. Like I like a lot. of the stuff he did, I just somehow did. like he had a Mexican baby mama and a. black baby mama. I got a Mexican baby. mama and a black baby mama. I don't know. how. >> you don't know how that happened. >> I just it just repeated itself. So. [laughter] I see my I see a lot like uh. it's like deja vu, right? >> What type of example are you trying to.

say for your kids because you know a lot. of what you do is going to be played out. over the internet and although they. might not be old enough to understand. now eventually they will come of age and. they'll understand what transpired with. their father. So what example are you. trying to set moving forward because you. can't go back and erase what's already. happened. >> Yeah. Um. so my example is just like you know. provider you know Superman type mom. Santa Claus you know that's me. I'm not. really going for um.

how can I say it? I just want them to have what they need, you know, right? Like I'm not really too. focused on the later part cuz I know. later once they get older just like I. did it'll start to make sense. We can't. really help them understand something. that they'll never understand. >> How old are the kids now? >> Uh my youngest is two three and eight. So. not old enough. >> Not old enough. You got in some trouble.

You had a lady twerking on your your. daughter's bed. Do you regret anything. that you've done? Let's say obviously. you you you try you know you stop. drinking, you stop smoking and you're. trying to live a different life than. what you lived in the past. >> Do you regret anything that you've done. in the past? >> No, not at all. Cuz like I said, I'm a. reactor. So a lot of my actions. >> is just um mirrored, you know, >> right? >> Whatever you whatever you decide to turn.

into right now, I'm just going to mirror. it. >> Okay. So, >> so you on what you whatever time they. on, that's what you on. >> Yeah. If you get that close, you know, right? >> I'm not I'm not out to hurt anybody. I'm. not out to get anybody. I'm living too. good. I'm having my way too much to to. be mad or sad, you know? >> So, [laughter]. >> but real life is real life. You know, what's in front of me will ultimately. supersede social media, >> right? >> What I think late at night in my bed. >> Mhm. >> You know, I seen a couple times you you.

had your reaction. >> Yeah, man. And I was I was and I wasn't. even drinking. [laughter]. >> That's what I'm saying. You know that I. feel like they just like to blame that. So. >> yeah, >> you excluded now. What you going to. blame? You know, >> deep down that's probably who we are, huh? >> Literally. Yeah. [laughter]. >> And the only way we can um fix that is. for to expose it, identify, >> see what it is, >> realize it. Yeah. >> And then we correct it. We can't just. correct something that we don't know is. there.

You said if your daughter didn't like. your tattoos, you'd get them removed. >> Yeah. >> H [clears throat] I don't know, Face, you can get all those removed, bro. >> But yeah, but I know she loves her. She. loves you. So, >> would you be okay when she becomes of. age to date somebody with as many. tattoos as somebody if she found the. person that's identical to who you are, what you are, how you behave? You okay. with that with your daughter? Um, I get qu asked this question all the. time and I always say yes just because I.

know myself, you know. >> So the ladies that I deal with, I have. the best interest, I'm not dealing with. them to. bring them down or, you know, social. media is what it is. But in real life, I. got the best intentions for these. females. like you know whether it's. whatever they need babysitter. rent you know not even just that or. >> they need you there sometime. >> emotionally. spiritually so I would hope my daughter. could find somebody that could at least. do that you know nobody's perfect.

>> those at least those qualities would be. >> somebody decent enough that can convert. into. >> whatever we need him to be you know my. my mom actually asked me a question she. said um like so if your if your daughter. was with a crackhead You wouldn't uh try. to get her away from him. >> You say your mom asked you that. question? >> Yeah. >> And my answer is no. I would try to get. him off crack. >> Okay. >> Because I'm not going to risk my me and. my daughter's relationship for this. person if she loves this person. We all.

know how that's going to go. >> Right. Interesting. >> I'm not going to drive her away. I'm. going to bring them closer. >> Right. >> And. >> you're going to try to get him help. because clearly that's who she wanted to. be with. And so I don't want to upset. her by trying to remove her. Maybe I get. him help and they'll become even better. >> There you go. That's my theology on it. >> Okay. >> But some people will be like, "No, we. need to go kill them or get him away or. [laughter]. threaten them and do that. You just. going to push. She just going to. >> right. >> now. She might [ __ ] around and try to. crack cuz they now they. >> right.

>> lay out there vulnerable. She feeling. like nobody and that's all she got is. this guy. So, >> and and and and you're probably it seems. like you're looking at it. Well, you. don't know what drove him to try crack. in the first place. Maybe it was. something more than on the surface level. than what we see. >> Exactly. Life is like all about understanding. now, you know. >> Um it's a numbers game and once the. numbers go up, you have to update with. it. You know, you don't have to be with. it, but you don't have to be against it,

>> right? How old were you when you started. getting tatted? >> My first tattoo probably like 16. I was. like a junior in high school. >> Okay. I had a whole half sleeve. I'm at school playing football. They. like, "How old is he right there?" You. know, [laughter]. >> I don't know about him, right? You know, but I was just, you know, just ahead of. the time, I guess. >> So, when you did your mom agree to it or. you just came home with a tattoo? >> No, no, no. She didn't agree. >> So, you just came home with a tattoo? >> Yeah, I just came home wearing shirts. every day. >> So, you have long sleeve. She didn't.

know you had gotten tattooed at first. time. >> No, no, not at all. >> So, when she found out, she's like, "What is this?" You know, typical mom. [ __ ] [laughter]. Boy, when did you get that? Where did you get? Who did it? >> Oh, mama. I had this thing a long time. >> This old thing. [laughter]. Exactly. Right. And so I hear tattoos. are addictive. Is that true? >> Yeah, they're very influential. Um I.

feel like everybody's influenced by um. seeing somebody with a lot of tattoos. But me as a kid, I already knew I was. gonna be one type of like I'm like this. tall. I'm like when I get old. >> when you get old enough to get. >> tattoos everywhere, >> right? >> You know, so it was already kind of like. a [snorts]. something that was inside of me. But in. today's time, I noticed some people come. around me and then they start getting. more tattoos. So. 67 type thing, you know. >> [laughter]. >> But uh you got tatted in jail. Isn't.

that illegal? You're not supposed to be. able to do that. >> Yeah. Yeah. I got to write up for it, too. >> Yep. >> So, they gave you more time, right? >> Yep. >> Extra 30 days. >> Yep. How you know? [laughter]. >> You been in jail? >> Hell no. >> Yeah. I got 115 for the tattoo and I got. extra time. >> Damn. But hold on. How do you know? I. mean I mean can't you get like hepatitis.

and stuff in there with nothing. sanitary? Cuz it's not like that's like. a tattoo parlor and everything is. sanitary. >> Yeah. No, not at all. Not at all. They. literally tattooing you with a paper. clip and a CD motor attached to. >> Come on. Come on now. You want a tattoo. that bad? >> Pen. Yeah. It's amazing. It's amazing. You wanted a tattoo that bad that you. couldn't wait till you got out and get. like. >> or you just wanted a prison tattoo. >> Yeah, I just wanted a prison tattoo.

>> I wanted to say I got it in prison type. [ __ ]. >> Well, you could have got it outside and. said I got it in prison. Ain't nobody. going to know. >> Yeah, I don't know. I So my I was kind of. rushing. I'm like, man, oh [ __ ] I got. like how much time I got? Oh [ __ ] I. need more. Come on. Come on. Like I. don't know. I didn't want to get out and. have to like I don't No, it just. wouldn't hit the same to me. >> Right. Does it hurt? Did it hurt the same as a. normal tattoo? Like if you go to a. tattoo parlor here in in in LA as. opposed to a is anything does it feel.

different? Is do that? They ain't got no. numbing cream clearly. >> Ning cream. Nah, it's about the same. It's about the same. You know, they. sticking a needle in your skin and. >> you trusted that? >> Yeah. I had a little SA SA partner, South doing that. I trust them the. Mexicans to tap me. I ain't really get. the no blacks to tap me. None of the. homies or nothing. >> So, with when when did the facial. tattoos start? >> Um, I already had like um the blue face.

right here and right here with the strip. right here, >> right? You had blue face with the hund. >> I already had probably like five face. tattoos when I went in there, you know? So, it wasn't like I just. >> Oh, hold on. So, you got some face. tattoos in there? >> Yeah, that was all I got was face. tattoos in there. I [laughter] I was thinking you like an. arm or something. All of this was in. there. >> Johnny YSL. You got the the MLB logo. >> thing, you know.

>> Johnny Journey. >> Journey. Yes. My daughter. >> Jordan. Okay. >> Got the uh Sently with the C, >> you know. Big Sentleys and all that. >> No, I don't I don't know that big. >> Sly. Sently. Sently. [laughter]. Yeah. What else I got? I got I got a lot. of hood [ __ ]. >> I mean, say you got like a paper a paper. airplane or something. >> Yeah. >> What is that? What does the paper. airplane signify? >> Fly. [laughter]. >> You know you can be fly without getting. tatted.

>> I guess. >> So, are you done now? >> Nah. >> Well, you ain't got nothing. What? What. the hell you. >> I want to get my nose too, >> but I'm still like trying to figure out. what what like what would be, you know, worth getting? >> Nothing. [laughter]. I'm thinking nothing. >> So, are your legs tatted? >> Nah, no legs. >> So, you got nothing on your legs? >> No, I want no damn thigh tattoo. >> Well, hell, I think why you want thigh. tattoo seems more real and practical. than a face face tattoo?

>> So, once you get the nose done, you. going to be done. >> Yeah, probably my back. I don't got no. back tattoos. But I can't see my back. So, you feel me? >> You can't see your face either unless. you look in the mirror. >> Exactly. I'm saying my back. I can't never see my. back, you feel me? So I feel like that's. kind of pointless. It's like I'm getting. my tattoos for me. >> I'm not getting them for people to look. at them and you know, so the back is. like. >> Well, you know, Blueface, when you get a. tattoo and you put it on your face, you. know people going to see that before you. do. >> No, they're not. Cuz I'm I put it on my.

face. >> I know you did. But you can't see it. unless you crossey. >> Yeah. See, [laughter]. you're right. your childhood. Walk us. through it. [clears throat] What type of. childhood did Blueface have? >> Um, regular. So, I went to um I started. playing football at Bowen Hills. Actually played with Biggie Small Son. >> Oh, did you? >> Yeah. Balling Hills Bruins. Um,

then I went to um Crrenshaw. I mean, not. Kawher Crest Elementary. >> Okay. >> Then I [laughter] then I went to Marvin. Elementary. Then I went to John. Burroughs and then uh my brother I had. an older brother who was like doing the. street [ __ ] at a very young age and uh. >> he caught some time when he was like 16. 17 so my mom felt like she had to move. us out the hood so she just started like. a. [ __ ] chasing you know. >> oh Lord have mercy I mean trying to find.

rich men to but she got one and she. moved us out to the valley. >> right. >> and so we were just. >> You didn't like it out there did you? Uh, not at first. You know, at first I. was a little too aggressive, but uh, you know, got my ass kicked one time, you know. [laughter]. >> I be. so I got I got used to it. I like the. the the girls out there, you know, >> right? >> Valley girls is cool. [laughter].

>> Outside of street activities, is there. any fond memories that you have of your. childhood? fun like uh that I like. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, did you have friends growing up? Did y'all ride bikes? >> I like playing football. >> You like playing football? >> Poper. >> Yeah. >> Pop Warner was like a a real big uh part. of my childhood. I used to go six months. with my mom and then pop like football. season. I go six months with my dad, >> right? >> And just go back and forth. So. throughout the year, I'm going back and. forth from wherever my mom is at,

wherever my dad is at. So I lived a lot. of places. So, I love I picked up a lot. of. adaptive habits where I could just, you. know, meet new people, be social. >> Did you have to be two different kids or. your your mom, you had to be a certain. way? Your dad was your dad more strict? Was your mom more strict? How would. >> Yeah, my mom was uh a little bit more. loose, you know? >> Uhhuh. >> And my dad was a little bit more like. >> structured and. >> type stuff. Yeah. made me stay in the. house and stuff, go to work with him and.

write standards and [ __ ] if I didn't do. right [ __ ] So, I like my mom better, of. course, you know, >> right? >> More free form. >> But, I mean, you didn't paint a very. flattering picture, your mom, to to like. her more. You said she was, you know, chasing after men, trying to get you, you know, get you out of that. environment. What is your relationship. like with your mom? >> I mean, that was that was her best way. of of doing what's best for us, you. know. So, it wasn't like a I didn't I. didn't mean to say as if it was like a. bad thing. That's just what she had to.

do to. >> get us in a better environment because. she seen the environment we was in, >> right? >> You know, took her other son. So, [snorts] um I appreciate her for it. She. wasn't a bad mom, >> right? >> She made me lunch, breakfast, took me to. school, you know, made sure I was at. practice and stuff. She did exactly what. she was supposed to do. But did you see. your mom have multiple men like in and. out of the house? Did that affect you? Did they have what type of relationship. did you have with some of the men that.

she brought around? >> Uh yeah, it affected me just a little. bit, you know, just um just based on. like when I it say it affected me now. that I'm older. It didn't affect me as a. kid, >> but then when I got older, I'm like, "Oh, okay. That's what you was doing.". Like, you know, I thought that was your. friend, Mom. [laughter]. Thought that was your friend, mommy. I. ain't know [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> that's all you know. Yeah. >> So when I was a kid, you know, I'm just. thinking that, oh that's mommy's friend. >> That's mom's friend. >> You know, now that I'm older, I'm Oh,

yeah. Mom, you was uh. >> Okay. >> So, how were the men? Uh were they were. they did they try to discipline you? Were they tough with you? Were you like, you don't tell me what to do. You're not. my You're not my dad. I don't have to. listen to you. >> Yeah. Um. my mom kind of ran a strict program. She. didn't let them ever feel like they. could talk to us or discipline us. So, >> she did a good job on that. She didn't. like let them. discipline us, >> right? >> She'll get up on like on they bumper.

before, >> right? >> Don't talk to him like that, you know, type stuff. >> Did your mom ever tell have to tell your. dad, well, you know, hey, he's been. acting up. You need you need to talk to. him. You need to check him. >> Probably. Hell yeah, for sure. And vice. versa. You tweeted, you said you need. your mom to be a mother, not a. networker, not a baddie. Have you. reconciled? Do you think your mom is too. invested in your relationships? >> Yeah. Hell yeah. It's It's It messes up. all of them, you know?

>> Why? Why do you Why do you say that? >> Cuz it's too soon. If I just meet a. young lady and we're just dating and. hitting it off, >> she she shouldn't meet my mom yet, you. know? She didn't know my mom yet until I. feel it's time for you to meet my mom. >> But your mom interjects. >> My mom was DMing them. Hey girl, [laughter]. >> come on now. >> Let me get your number. Let me call you. And then she just sabotages the. relationship. [laughter] Every single. one. >> She start posting them, you know, cuz. they start caring. They care about what.

she thinks she mom. >> So it's like she just overwhelms the the. honeymoon face. >> Did you have a conversation with your. mom? Says, "Mom, I'm just now I'm just. like I just met this person. I want to. get to know them on a different level. This might be someone I can see myself. with being long-term. And by you coming. in doing what you're doing, you're. undermining the relationship. You don't. even give us an opportunity to get to. really know each other. You've already. made this thing public and and yada yada. yada and every. >> 100 times. I'm trying to tell that's.

what I mean when I tell her I don't need. her to be a baddy. Like if you see my. girl, you should have a little respect. for me to at least not swing on her, >> right? >> You feel me? like she's swinging on him. and [ __ ] like what you out of all the. females in this like in this club you. swinging on my girl. >> What did did uh did your mom did your. mom ever tell you why she swung on her? >> Yeah, but it was it wasn't true. You. know, it wasn't with the video. It was. on video. So, you know what she said? At.

first, she said she pulled my whole wig. off trying to get in the section with. not. >> But if that's your girl, she should be. allowed in the section, right? >> Exactly. That's why I'm telling my mom. like, "Okay, you once you see it's her, you should address it. Hey, can you not. can you not um excuse me?" You know, >> just swing on her. I feel like she only. swung on her because she knew she was. with me, >> right? >> Well, that was going to probably. undermine the relationship, Blue Face, to be honest with you. I mean, >> I know. I seen this a 100 times. I was. like, "Mom, why are you trying to get.

them on your show and trying to just. >> Well, then why you why you why how did. your mom find out that why you go bring. your bring your girl or the person that. you're seeing? Maybe it's not your girl, maybe the person that you're interested. in. Why are you bringing them around. your mom when you know she's going to. have exhibit this type of behavior? >> Well, it was just my homecoming party. So, >> okay, >> it was my it was my day anyway. You. know, I'm not just bringing them over. her house or. >> in her presence, but. >> she's in the club. What can I do? She didn't even come with me,

>> right? >> She met me there with her friends. So, it's like, you know, regular link up and. mom's just tripping. >> She want me to ask for my bike back. [laughter] You know, I wouldn't trip. >> So, so all that being said, you feel. your mom is kind of undermining a few of. your relationships and you want her to. um to butt out. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> I don't do that to her relationships, >> right? >> That's mommy's friend, >> right? >> I ain't all up in them. You cool with. that? >> What you doing with my mom in there? You.

know what y'all doing in that room? >> I said, man, you feel me? >> I don't think she would like that. >> No, she wouldn't. >> If I was alling her boyfriend or her. husband, feel me? Texting him. Hey, what. what you doing with my mom over there? >> That's what you That's your mom be. texting that to the to the the young. ladies, >> man. She be trying to set up meetings. with him. >> about what? >> That's what I'm saying. What? That's weird, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And it's not just the ones that I'm. serious with. It's every single one.

>> I could post one tonight. She going to. be DMing him tomorrow. So, u you you. talking to my son like posting them and. stuff. You know, it's just like. it's very strange, >> right? >> Very very strange. And then she likes to. like play them against each other. >> Oh, but you know, your mom's on a. reality show, ain't she? >> Yeah. So, she's kind of like. >> So, that's what that drama that sells, >> I guess. But she's doing it at the. expense of her own son. >> Exactly. >> And I don't know if she noticed this, but she's causing conflict because I see.

it bothers you because you've asked her. not to do it and she continually doing. it cuz it's you look at it as being. disrespectful. You are my mom. I can. only say so much because I'm never going. to disrespect you, mom. But show me the. same level of respect when I ask you not. to do something, not to do it. >> That's all I ask when I ain't asking her. to do no more, no less. Just let me. introduce you to them. Right. >> Don't introduce yourself to them because. they're not even that it's not. >> even it might not even go no more than.

this day. >> And you now you going to use this one. for the next one and now you just just. being messy, you know. Oh, he was just. with she be DOING THAT. >> OH, SHE you doing way too much. >> Sabotaging gang. She'll be I be with a. young lady, >> you know. Uh you're not just one. You. just one of them. You talking crazy to. him like damn why you talking [laughter]. crazy? Hold on. Like, >> yeah, it's bad, brother. It's like it. gives the wrong vibes to me because like. I deal with a lot of women. So,

that her body language, the signs that. she does, it just makes me think like. >> she intentionally trying to do that, huh? >> It just gives me the wrong idea of like. what women do when they're into when. they're into somebody, you know? >> Like obviously if this woman likes me. and this woman's right here, this. woman's going to sabotage what's right. here because she likes me, >> right? So, you know, that's the weird part. >> Do your mom think any any any woman. female that you woman female that you've. been involved with, do she do she think. they're good enough for you? I Because.

that has to be under. >> after we break up and they start. following her. her lead. >> Okay. >> Then she'll Oh, I. >> Oh, this was a perfect one for you. >> Yeah. But when I'm with them, she's. yelling at doing the same [ __ ] yelling. at him, screaming at him, throwing [ __ ]. on him, and and then all right, we break. up. Six months later, now he now she her. manager and she they cool and that's. that's her that's her little homie girl. and all the stuff. So, it's like, no.

>> Have y'all uh thought about going to. counseling together? >> She's too old. >> Who? >> My mom. >> Your mom too old for counseling, for. therapy? >> It is. I feel like some people just be. stuck in their ways, you know, especially older people. Like you've. been living a certain way for 50 years. plus. >> Yeah. >> It's not going to get be too much that. can get you to change other than life. >> But does doesn't she see that's is. hurting you? That is bothering you? >> Yeah. She doesn't care. She doesn't care. I tell her all the.

time. >> How does that make you feel when you. tell her, "Mom, please stop.". >> You know, I didn't get to choose her. something. I just got to learn how to. live with learn how to accept her for. her and vice versa. you know, I might. not be as respectful or as as she would. like me to be, and she just has to learn. to love me. >> What type of relationship did you have. with your father coming up? >> Uh, fun dad, you know, >> kind of like how I am like he didn't uh. he never hit me or whip me or nothing.

He just uh disciplined me like once I. got old enough. >> to he used to take me to work with him. >> and make me be at work writing standards. all day like if I didn't do the right. stuff, you know, right? So I appreciated. his way of doing it. You know, my mom. was with me. So it was different, right? >> Got a little bit of both. And uh his way. was a little bit more logical, you know, a little bit more. stuck longer, you know? Just. >> What's the relationship now? >> Uh we do. He lives with me. >> Oh, he lives with you.

>> Yeah. Yeah. That's my dog. [laughter]. He live with me. >> So. >> cuz he respects me, you know? Like my. mom doesn't respect me. >> as an adult. >> Mhm. >> She still see you as a little baby, huh? >> Exactly. [laughter] That's how she. carries it, you know. >> Yeah. Do you have your father tried to. talk to her about this? Like you know. this boy grown, right? >> Man, the whole America has tried to talk. to her about [laughter] it. >> Shannon, you want to talk to her? >> She if she ain't listening to you.

[laughter]. and she ain't listening to your dad. >> She might listen to you. She might. listening to Shannon, man. Y'all might. have a older older thing where you can. break it down to her in an older way cuz. I guess I don't know. I don't know how. she's not getting it. I'm not asking for. much. >> Not asking for much. Do you want to get. married? >> Uh yeah, eventually actually prisons. kind of taught me that it's a little bit. more valuable to have a wife. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> When you were in, who came did did. people come? Did any of the the lady. that you were dealing with before you.

went in, did they come visit you? >> Uh yeah, a few of them. Yeah. Some of. them even surprised me. >> Really? >> Didn't even let me know they was coming. They just, "Hey, you got a visit today?". Yeah. Who the [ __ ] [laughter]. don't you have to put them down on the. books or you just like. >> in the county? When I was in the county? >> Yeah. >> That's when I was getting visits. So, you don't got to put them down. They. could just show up on appointment. Yeah. You got to send them a visiting. form. >> But they wasn't even approving my. visiting form. So, the prison kind of. just. >> had it out for me. So, I didn't get no. visits in prison. >> What you mean they didn't approve it. for? What? So, what were you doing?

Getting face tattoos. That's probably. what they turned you down. Yeah. No, I was I was kind of viral, so. they probably was just, you know, trying. to protect their self like we don't want. him to visit the room. >> You said that you really love football. coming up. You're a pretty good. quarterback. Led your team to the league. title, threw for,200 yards, 17. touchdowns, seven uh 21 touchdowns in. 2014. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I even went D2 H.B.CU. >> You went to the Fville State. >> Yes, sir.

Why did you I mean you seem to like you. like sports. You seem like you you were. good at football. What happened? Why did. you It was it culture shock because. North Carolina is a big difference than. LA. >> that and it just became too business. like you know first it was fun you know. I was into you know the coaches actually. cared about you a little bit. Then when. you get to college you just a number. just a. >> something on the board. You know, as. soon as it ain't your time or you're not. in the best shape, they just cross you.

off the board and. >> it just makes one up. >> Yeah. Like, you know, so that's cool. You know, that's fine. That's just not. how I. >> That's kind of how life work. You know. that, right? If you don't do the job, they going to hire somebody else to do. it. >> for sure. Unless you the hire. >> Yeah. >> Unless you the boss. >> So, so you like you want to be the boss. >> Yeah. That's why I play quarterback. [laughter] I'm calling the shots. You. feel me? >> So, I had it in me. But uh no, but. originally um I was supposed to red. shirt my freshman year, >> right? >> So I was skinny, you know. I wanted to. get my size right, my mind right. They.

already had a red shirt senior. He was. 26, 25 years old. Damn. >> I'm 18. I'm obviously not going to start. over him. So. >> cool. I'm perfectly fine with that. >> Yeah, >> I'm showing I'm dressing out on the. sideline. I'm not playing. >> He goes down one game. Uh. >> oh. >> They just Yeah, I was the next best. They had a second string who was came. from a junior college. She was a junior. >> But I was just nice, man. Honestly, it. was. >> Oh, you was nice. >> Yeah. Like in practice, you know, we. throwing it in the buckets. I'm hitting. the buckets in the bucket. >> Dropping, man.

>> That's why they threw me out there, you. know. I know it probably I probably. couldn't see at the time that they were. just probably. >> they saw something you didn't see in. yourself. >> Testing me out, you know, type thing, but so boom, they put me in the game. versus West Georgia. Um, I did did decent, you know, I was true. freshman, you know. I threw two. touchdowns, probably 170 yards. >> Damn. I went like 13 for 21. The next. week I'm out. >> when the guy came. Hold on. >> He came back. >> Yeah. Oh, you thought you was going to.

get the job. You thought you was GOING. TO KEEP THE JOB. [laughter]. >> You a substitute. The substitute teacher. don't get to keep the job for the whole. year. >> Not if we already agreed that I'm a red. shirt. >> But that didn't mess up your red shirt, did it? >> Yeah. >> Oh, cuz you played more of the snaps. You played. >> I played the whole game. >> on TV. So they just. >> So they basically messed up your red. shirt. >> Yeah. >> And now you say, "Well, you messed up my. red shirt. At least let me go ahead and. finish it out.". >> I wasn't even second string.

>> So they move. So you was third string. The starter gets hurt. They put They. say, "Hey, go in. You go in 13 to 21, 172 touchdowns." The next week he comes. back, you back to third string. >> Made no [ __ ] sense to me. Now just it. just was like okay. >> Had they left you in, you think you. would have stayed? >> Yeah. Hell yeah. Of course. I wouldn't have left playing.

>> I wasn't even second string, bro. >> So, okay. So, now if they put now if. they put him back in there and put you. the second string, >> that's even better. >> Okay. It was the mere fact that you. started you. They put you in over the. second string guy, but when the guy gets. back healthy, you go back to third. string. You thought you had showed. enough that if I'm not going to start, I. should at least be second string. >> At least. Although the agreement was. never for me to play this year, >> right? >> Cuz I I wanted to I want to go. >> You want to rest. You want You want to. get a little four years of me playing.

every game. >> Yes. >> That's the only way you're going to make. it. >> Yeah. >> I don't want to rely on my junior year, senior year season to get to the league. Plus, I'm already D2, so I need to get. some film so I can get, you know, >> I know the game. >> Yeah, I was D2. I went to H.B.CU. We. used to play, we used to play Fedville. State. >> Oh, yeah. Which one you went to? >> I went to Savannah State. >> Oh, [ __ ]. >> We used to beat the brakes on, too, though. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Then they wasn't even that good, you know? They wasn't like a top tier D2. team. So, I was like, man, I'm trying to. get in here,

>> right? >> Get a season or two in, man. Go D1A or. D1, you know? >> Right. Did you get homesick? Because. like I said, Bville, North Carolina, military and there's not a whole lot. going on. >> Yeah. No, I ain't going to lie. I ain't. going to lie. >> Okay. >> I wasn't okay. You know, for a. quarterback. >> was a little, you know, slacky a little. bit. You know, I wasn't as uh the best. leader, you know, as far as the time. zone. This is what happened. It was a. time zone. 3 hours ahead. >> Three hours. Yeah. >> So, in the beginning, I was showing up.

late, you know, to the quarterback. meetings, to the practice. Now see that. that that's the part that you. conveniently left out while your ass was. thirsty. >> I'm already red shirted. >> Just because you red shirted, that. doesn't mean you don't you get to come. on your own time. >> Well, I was I was I couldn't adjust to. the time difference. >> What you mean you couldn't? >> I went straight from California to North. Carolina to 4:45 practice. >> Mhm. >> I'm not going to sleep till damn near. 3:00 in the morning because I'm thinking. it's 12 or I'm not going to sleep till 2. in the morning cuz it feels like it's. 11. >> I mean, you young back then. Your body.

adjust. >> Not in days. Yeah, >> this is I went straight from high school. to college. >> Yeah, I mean you set an alarm. >> I tried I tried all of that. So, basically, boom, you late one time. >> Um, you got to run on a day you guys. don't have practice. You lay two times, your group has to run. Your position. group has to run. >> Yeah. >> You lay three times, the whole offense. got to run. You lay four times, the. defense got to run. You lay five times, the whole team is out there. >> Well, they put a full metal jacket on. you like they did pile. They beat your.

ass, >> bro. Tell me why I got the whole team. out there and I'm late to the damn room. >> Uh, hello. [laughter]. >> They were so disappointed in me. I was. disappointed myself that day just. because I'm like, >> "Yeah, we had to be Yeah, we we had we. had to do something bad.". >> Everybody on the field and I'm I'm I'm. running up late like I'm sorry. I tried. to make it. >> They like, "Man, you know, they couldn't. even yell at me at this point. They was. just, man, like. >> man, when you did go to sleep, >> Yeah. >> they should have tore your ass up. bang.

on your life. >> Yeah. This was in the beginning though. This is like before the season start. This is like you know. >> Yeah, I know. Yeah. >> spring ball like when we not spring but. like you know we scrimmaging type [ __ ]. >> Mhm. >> So. >> training camp. >> I adjusted as fast as I could. >> So when the season started I was more on. time and more which is why they probably. threw me in. You know it wasn't just. >> So what was it like getting up for you. go to class? >> I wasn't going to class Shannon. >> So how long how long did it take? >> That's another reason I left too. >> Yes. Okay. Yeah. >> Start adding up. >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz I don't know how you.

thought you going to stay in school, >> man. If they see this report card, Shannon, they going to think I'm a. dumbass. I just just need to go ahead. and go home. [laughter]. >> They have burnt my ear, >> bro. But you had the grade to get into. school. You're not a dummy. >> Yeah. No, it's just college. >> You just don't apply yourself. >> No, it's just college. They don't care. about you, bro. They're not going to. tell you. There's no attendance list if. you don't show up. >> No, they cut you on scholarship. They. going to get paid regardless. Yeah, they. don't give a. >> for sure.

>> If they don't give a I damn sure don't. give a I'm a freshman. >> Well, that's how but that's how but. that's how you show the football team. >> I'm living on campus, you know. So, I. really came for football. >> I wasn't the smartest kid. I literally. >> had a 2.8. I just made the criteria. 2.8,400. SAT. All right. You can you barely made. it like you know. >> Well, that's a good that's a good 14. >> That's what I'm saying. That's the only. reason I made it with Actually, it was. probably like a 2.3. >> Yeah. Like my GPA and my SAT score was. just like. >> You talking the SAT or the ACT?

>> SAT. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I got like a 1340. >> Bro, you know, back then the perfect. score was 1,600. >> Yeah, I know. That's how I got in. >> So, yeah. So, you you more than Bro, you. made like 600. You made like 700 800. more better than I did. >> You do realize that, right? >> I cheated though. >> Oh, lord. [laughter] Blue face. You. could have kept that one. You had me. We. was going so good. just say, "Be how you. cheat on that.". >> You don't let you think I You know, I'm. I cheated in there like this.

>> You took you cheat off somebody's paper. off just somebody's test. >> Yeah, I know how to cheat, man. So, basically, man, I look at what section. he on. Look at what section he on, what. section she on, and I'm. >> And you going to that section. >> Yeah. Cuz you cuz you don't cuz you know. 2.3 and 1340 don't go they don't. coincide. >> Exactly. So they got the boards up and. everything. I'm a cold cheater though. I. cheat my whole life. all through high school, you know. So I.

I ain't doing the homework. Soon as I. get to school, hey, let me see your. homework. >> Yeah. >> So how you think you going to make it in. football? Who you going to cheat on in. football? >> I wasn't. >> Well, football I had a little passion. for, you know, so I didn't mind, you. know, studying and getting the plays and. watching film and stuff. >> I like watching myself, you know. >> Right. But uh as far as the school part, I was, >> you know, that wasn't my alley. >> You do realize like like when you watch. film, most of it is watching other team. defense. It's not you. You watching. yourself. >> Yeah, that's true, too. But, you know,

in the meetings, it's more like a. practice. You know, they watch a lot of. practice. >> Yeah. You watch your practice what you. did and your steps. Make sure you right. where you should have gone with the. ball. Take the down flat or take the, you know, out ball. Come back. >> Team footage is only when the season. start and we facing that opponent, right? >> But majority of the time, you know, they. watching practice all day. You had a. good arm. How far you throw ball about. 60 70? >> Yeah, that was my thing. I had a good. deep ball. >> Deep ball. >> Yeah, that was like that was like what. got. >> I mean if if I had to compare you to. somebody what you you you Patrick. Mahomes, you you Josh Allen, you Lamar.

Jackson. Who your combination of? >> Uh. no, I wasn't that fast. Well, I I was fast in high school. When. I got to college, I wasn't that fast. >> Well, damn. How you slow down that. quick? >> They got faster. I mean, >> so you were fast. They were just faster. the D lineman, you know, they like your. size, but they running as fast as me. Yeah. You know, in high school, they. wasn't running as fast as me. They was a. little slower. >> So, they catching me. I'm like, damn, I. thought I was fast, but this [ __ ] got. me, you know. [laughter]. >> So, yeah, that I wasn't as fast as I.

thought. I was more like a um. probably like a Derrick Henry, you know, more like I'm looking to throw. >> How are you Derek Derrick Henry running. back? Derrick Henry don't throw no pass. >> Not Dererick Henry. Um for for the. Eagles. >> Oh, Jayen Hurts. >> Jaylen Herz. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, you more like a Jaylen Hertz, huh? >> Yeah. more like pass first like. >> oh. >> run is like I can do it but I'm going to. be looking around and then all right. I'mma run. >> Oh. >> yeah. >> Were you heartbroken that.

football ended? >> Yeah I was cuz I came back and I tried. to do junior college. >> Mhm. >> Where' you go to the. >> tried to go to Jo. Uh no I tried Valley. Pierce. >> Okay. >> And uh CLC. >> Okay. And uh it's even more political. there. like you know it's it's hard to start in. those two years when they got people. that's coming down from D1 schools. >> Yes. >> They got people that's coming from. boarding schools you know right there. it's a little bit more like.

>> it's worse than college like cuz you got. to you got to be more hungry. >> Mhm. >> In college it's like all right they they. feed you a little. >> right. >> and jo. is a step below. >> Yeah. You got to go get it. >> Yeah for sure. So, I was trying to go. get it, but uh you know, then I had. >> But you were at a place that you could. have got it, but you didn't want it. there. And then when you realized that. you had to go get it. >> Yeah. It was it was a revolving door, you know. >> Mhm. >> Uh if I could do it different, I would, you know, I would have stayed a little. bit longer. But that's ultimately what.

pushed me to the streets cuz then it was. like, I don't got nothing else going. I'm just going to be the best street. dude. >> So, you drop out of college. Did you. tell your mom? You tell your dad that. you're dropping out or you just came. back home? >> Uh, yeah. I try I told I told him, you. know, they tried to convince me to stay, but I was already. >> Your mind was already made up that. you're coming back home. >> Yeah, once once once they put me back on. the bench. Yeah, I was going home. >> But you finished out that season? >> No. >> Hold on. When they put you back on the. bench, you quit then?

>> I'm out of here. I was like I'm like Antonio Brown out. there. [laughter]. You you pieced them out. >> Hold on. You done made us run. You done. made the offense run. You done made the. defense run. And you mean to tell me. we're not even done with the season and. you pieced us out? >> Yeah. >> They should have brought you back. >> Yeah. I even I even tried to go back, but I think the coaches got fired that. season cuz it didn't go that well. So, the new.

>> staff was probably had their own. >> So, you came back home, you lived with. your mom, you lived with your dad. Uh my. mom had already moved with her husband. to Ohio and my dad was um living I think. in Orange County. So I was just thugging. by myself. >> So where'd you live? >> Wherever I could live, wherever I could. sleep. >> So you Hey, you found a homeboy couch or. you found your car. >> Abandoned apartments, car, baby mama's. house. >> Damn. >> Yeah, that was cool though. That's what. made me like more like life. Okay, you.

know it's time to grow up. Get a job. You know, Fedville State had some nice. dorms. >> Oh, it was. >> central heating and cooling, >> free food, barricades. >> Yep. Yep. Yep. >> Trust me, I regretted it once. [laughter]. I ain't going to lie. Once I got back, I'm like, damn, I ain't even missing. [ __ ] [ __ ] I should have stayed. >> Did you have a plan once you got So, you. drop out of school. What was your plan. once you got back to LA? What were you.

going to do? Were you going to get a. job? >> So, you know, the team was asking me, "Bro, what are you going to do?" like, you know, they know I'm leaving. Coach. was trying to get them to get me to. stay. I'm like, "No, I mean, I'm out of. here." They like, "What are you going to. do?" I was telling them some dumb ass. [ __ ] I'm like, "Man, I'm going to go. work at Lady's Foot Locker. Crack all. the. >> Hold on.". >> You ain't tried to sell no shoes. You. just tried to crack. >> Yeah. You know, ladies Women's Foot. Locker, you feel me? That sound like a. good job to me. >> Talk to ladies all day. Feel me? What. size you wear, baby? Okay. Get your. number. [laughter].

>> We going to send you the shoes. >> Are you going to send them the shoes? >> Yeah. Yeah. And then I was going I was. going to try Jo. So I was like, man, I'm. going to go get a job and play Jo, >> right? >> And I tried. >> Mhm. >> And then I crashed my car and then that. all that [ __ ] went over with. >> So now you ain't got no car. >> You ain't working at Lady Foot Locker. and Jo ain't happening. >> Yeah. >> So now what? >> So I start um. Well, that's when I started living at my. grandma house. >> for a second, >> but she didn't want me to have no.

company. >> No, man. You know them old. >> man. I'm paying 300 a month. >> I don't care if you paying 3,000 a. month. You not to bring no not no. grandma. You not f to do that. >> So exactly. So I'm like damn granny. Like all right, I can't do this. You. know, like so I just that's when I just. start road running, you know, staying. with the homies, staying in the hood, staying the couch or my car, broken a. couple of B. But I don't even know why. you would even want to have a lady. laying up in your house with your.

grandma right in the room down the hall. >> I'm renting the room and I. >> That's your grandma. >> So what? Granny probably in there with. >> Ah, no. Granny ain't doing that, man. Stop this. >> So Granny can have company, but I. >> Yes. That Granny Yes, >> but I'm paying. >> Me and my brother bought my grandma a. house. We didn't even come in after. midnight. We never I never had a woman. at the house. >> That's crazy. No, that's that's I think. that's a sign of respect. >> No, not when you're adults. It's respect. for her to respect you as an adult.

>> If you married, they ain't going to have. you not been to shack. >> But they've been shacking. How can you How can you try to in like. feel me? We I've been doing granny a. long time. Shannon, [laughter]. you can't do that. You can't do that. >> So she living a double life. She telling. you what you can't do when she do it. >> Can't do that, Shannon. [laughter]. This don't work. >> Oh my goodness, man. Okay, you laying. with the you you bunking with the. homies. You get a job.

>> Yeah, I got a job at uh so I didn't get. the lady's Foot Locker job. >> No surprise there. >> I didn't get the job. >> Okay. >> But uh I got hired at Office Depot. >> Okay. >> It's pretty cool. >> How many desk and and chairs you give. away? >> Um. so I was more like unboxing. >> Okay. Um, you know, they bring the. little shipments in. >> Okay. >> Box them up, put them on the shelf and. stuff. Um, I work behind the register a. little bit, you know. Um,

I wasn't the best employee, man. I ain't. going to lie to you, bro. I was So, what. I would do is somebody would buy. something. >> I know. I know. I know what you did. Go. ahead. Don't you? >> I reprint the receipt. >> Mhm. >> Steal what they bought, go take it to. the next Office Depot, return it, >> and get the cash. So I was making like 300 a day doing. that. >> So you always been about a hustle. >> type [ __ ] Type [ __ ] [laughter] But one. day they caught me, man. >> Ah, you. >> they caught me, man. You know how life. is, man. You going to get caught. You.

keep keep doing doing what you doing. You know. >> why you have to do that every day? Why. you couldn't do it? Like, you know what? I'm going to do this thing once a week. $300, that's a lot of money back then. $300 a week, that's $1,200 a month. That's a nice little come up. >> Yeah. It was. >> You trying to make $300 a day? Yeah. >> You You've been trying to make $1,500 a. week. You trying to make $6,000 a year? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, one day they called me, man. A lady left her damn card in the. machine. It's crazy. I took it out. I. walked out to give it to her. She car.

she got in and I was like, "You know. what? >> You have. >> I went straight to Target, got a $200. gift card. You feel me? She came back. and told them.". >> See, see that? See, that's the. convenient part. You left out. See, you. didn't get caught doing reprinting the. receipts. You got caught with credit. card. >> Yeah, >> that's credit card. >> Moving too fast though. That's when you. know when. >> Yeah. >> I know how life works, man. I did a lot. of stuff and I seen.

>> You had a nice little You see, you had a. nice little G. >> Got greedy. >> Got greedy. >> I know. You ain't got to tell me. >> So, obviously they fire they fired you. >> Yeah. Fired me. >> You look they ain't put no put no. charges on you. I know they didn't have. enough. >> They [laughter] had enough. You had the. credit card. >> Uh-uh. Cuz I ran out. So it looked it. looked it good. Shy, I took the card. out, ran out to the lady, you feel me? >> Right. >> She jumped in the car, drove off, and I. was just like, "Oh shit.". >> But when you GOT THE GIFT CARD FROM.

TARGET? >> YEAH, I think that's how I got caught. >> Yeah, that is how you got caught. So. they knew they could have put charges on. you, that credit card thing, >> I guess. [ __ ] not enough. >> So they let you So you got off with. that. So they say, "Okay, you're fine. You can't don't work here anymore." Yep. Got fired. >> So, what's your next move? What's your. next play? >> Um, so at this time, I was staying at my. baby mama's mama's house. >> Okay. >> And she was a um a leasing agent. So, she hooked me up, got me a little porter. job, which is funny cuz my last name is.

Porter. So, boom. >> So, now I'm working full time. >> Okay. >> 40 hours a week, >> 9 to5. >> Yeah. Got a nice little hustle. See, a. nice little honest hustle. Ain't hurt. nobody. >> Yeah. Yeah. But there's a butt coming, I. feel. I told you I wasn't the best. worker. You know, I cheated [laughter]. in high school. I cheated Office Depot. You know, cheating on my baby mama. You. feel me? >> Right. >> So, um, so basically what I would do is. I just, um, when people move out, I go. in there, take all the trash out, and. repaint.

>> or clean maintenance, you know, clean. cleaning though, like a janitor, though. Not really the maintenance, man. >> Right. >> So, you feel me, Shane? It's early, man. I got to be to work at 8, man. Man, I. got to be up at 7:00, feel me? >> Okay. Yeah. >> I'm in there. Sleep on the. walkie-talkie, man. Feel me? Dozing off. I'm supposed to be. painting and throwing trash away, you. feel me? I'm on the floor. Sleep on the. walkie-talkie. Hey, Porter. Yeah. I'm. I'm in here, you know. So, it start.

taking me a little too long. >> Yeah. So, what should take you, you. know, a couple hours? It taking you two. days? >> Three days. Three days, you know. So, they like, "Oh, man. you know, you. taking too long. >> So, they let you go with that? >> No, they didn't let me go. I was cool. Then they switched managers. So, now I. got a new person that I can impress, >> right? >> Then one day was um somebody had like. took a [ __ ] on the floor like in the. gym. >> Yeah. >> Damn. [clears throat]. >> And I was already kind of not really. vibing with the new dude. So, he told me.

to clean it up. Like, man, I ain't not. cleaning that up, fool. And that's how I. got fired. >> Okay. two week me right there. >> I guess uh you know. >> actually. I feel like I put a twoe notice in or. they gave me a two week notice. >> and then they told me to clean up the. [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think they probably. I picked the ladder they probably put. that. >> I think they fired me first. >> Yeah. Yeah. And you like. >> thought I was going to work two weeks. and clean up some [ __ ] I'm like man. >> okay. >> you got me up. >> Okay. That's the second job that you had.

since you been home. Okay. That one. ends. Okay. Now what? >> That's it. Yeah. I started selling weed. and crack after that. >> Damn. Yeah. That's when I started going to jail. Went to jail for the first time. >> for selling weed. >> Yep. Not even selling. I just got pulled. over with too much weed. This is when it. was illegal at the time. >> Right. >> I had a jar of weed probably like. probably about the size of his bottle. >> Right. >> How they see it? So where were you. smoking?

>> Nah, it was in the trunk. But I had a. janky ass car at the time. Yeah. So they. was already like, you know, get out the. car, you know, searching the car and. [ __ ] And I was being an [ __ ] at the. time. This is my first run in with the. law. So I wasn't even too hip to like, you know, they might [ __ ] with you if. you don't be a dick to them. >> Right. >> So I'm I'm telling them to take you to. jail. >> And you know you got you know you riding. dirty. >> Exactly. His ass took me straight to. jail, too. I never do that again. >> Yeah. Yeah. Probably that when. >> I'm like, you going to take me to jail? Come on. Let's go. Like all right, come.

on. Yeah. Yeah. >> So now they empowered your car. They got. reasons to search it now. >> Yeah. Now I'm in jail. I'm feeling dumb. as hell. Like what the told this [ __ ]. to take me to jail? >> Did they find the weed? >> Yeah. Yeah. That's why he took me to. jail. So he searched the car, but it was. in the trunk. >> Yeah. >> So once I start popping it like, man, >> he start checking her, you know, now he. in the trunk. >> Oh, yep. All right. >> Here we go. >> Yeah. >> How much time you get for that? That was. your first time? >> Yeah, I got on O. So,

>> okay. You know, I still didn't learn no. lesson cuz they let me out for free. Just call somebody. Hey, it's my first. time. You know, they got this charge. Okay, we going to order you. You just go. to court. Boom. Right. >> O means own recogn. >> Yep. Boom. I'm thinking it's a game. I. do some dumb ass [ __ ] again, bro. >> What you do? >> I got the weed in the car, but this time. I'm on a freeway, bro. And it's. >> with that same janky ass car. >> Same janky car, man. But it's. construction. The police is driving next to my dumb.

ass drive right past them like fast type. [ __ ] They pull my dumb ass over. and take me to jail again. >> And you got more weed in the car. >> And I got through. Yeah, that's why they. took me to jail. So I drive past. thinking I'm. >> You didn't see the police right there. too? >> I did, but I'm thinking. >> What you thinking? >> I don't know, man. I was thinking I was. a white lady or something, man. [laughter]. I thought I was white. You feel me? I. ain't know I ain't know I was black yet. Shannon, [laughter]. I told you this my first time, you know,

interacting with the police. You know, usually I'm playing football. I'm out. the way, >> right, >> with a female or with the homie or. something. >> Yeah, >> man. I tried or this time. >> they like shouldn't have did it. They. hang up on my face. That's when I'm. like, "Oh, you weird. What the. >> right?". >> That's when it kind of hit a little. different. You know, they didn't O me. this time. >> Yeah. Because you had a. >> And they got smart with me, too. M. >> like so I was like, "Oh, damn." So I had. to sit there a little bit this time.

>> Mhm. >> And then you know, >> cuz you had a court appointed. >> Exactly. So then I went to court and. then that's when I seen it was real. Like cuz you know when uh when you got. the court appointed, you go to court. with everybody else that got courtapp. appointed and we. >> which is damn near everybody up in. there. >> Yeah. We piggybacking. Oh, what they. say, man? You going to the county or you. getting out on on the. >> No, I got a whole last time. They got. >> Yeah. But my my quarter point got me. out, you know, probation, >> right? >> So I'm watching everybody else. They. come back crying. Oh, I got to go to.

county. I'm like, "Fuck, bro. [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> I'm about to leave." [ __ ] for you. >> Yeah. So that's when I was like, "Oh, yeah. It's a little bit serious, man. Like they ain't going to just let me. out.". >> So then I started, you know, just moving. a little bit smarter, you know? Yeah. That was my first. experience with Jodo. So what made you decide say you know. what damn this I ain't I ain't selling. no more this is you know I might smoke a. little weed but I ain't I ain't. >> No I kept selling it I just stopped. delivering. So you had.

[laughter]. >> Oh, your head hard. Your head hard, >> man. I'm head strong, man. You feel you? >> Your head ain't harder than them prison. doors. >> No, I don't know. >> You see? >> Not at all. >> You know you got If you keep doing this. foolishness, >> I know. I learned my lesson. Shannon, >> you learned your lesson. >> I got it. I seen it. It's real. It's. hot. It's hot in there. [laughter]. >> I'm good. You and Mike have had a back and forth. while people being celebrated once they. come home. Um, Mike did a little time.

Uh, well, he didn't go do the time. I. think he had a that scared straight. situation. When do you think people should be. celebrated? >> I mean, you had a housewarming party. when you got out. >> Yeah. No, I think I think Yeah, I think. definitely they should. I think. >> No, I'd have throw you one when you got. out from college. When you graduated. from college, that's when I threw one. >> Right. All right. No, I think anybody. that's um living their truth should be. celebrated. You know, anybody that's um.

doing it the right way. So, it don't. even got to be. >> coming home from prison mean you didn't. do it the right way. >> But you but you coming home from a from. a environment that um you're not going. to appreciate life if they don't. appreciate you coming home. You know. what I mean? So, it's more of a. >> celebration thing. You know, that's. especially in the hood. That's like a. regular thing. Everybody, we seen Boys. in the Hood. These make movies about. jail. That's a part of glorifying it. You feel me? So you don't get to just.

>> you don't get to decide who we clap for. >> But let me ask you this. You say you got. the tattoos. The tattoos are for you. >> Why did you coming home mean something. to somebody else instead of just you? Why do you need to be celebrated? >> Cuz I It was just me in jail. >> Exactly. So why need to celebrate you? >> Why? Cuz why would I want to come home? >> What? You want to stay there? I. >> No, but I'm saying if if it's all about. me, >> what's the difference from being in jail. and being free? >> I didn't celebrate you going in. >> No, but I'm.

>> I mean I Let's just say for the sake of. argument, you going to college. That's a. celebration. I'mma call everybody, man. You know, junior going to college. Yeah, let's have a party. >> For what? That's all about me, right? >> Yeah. But. >> you can't say it. >> It's an accomplishment. But you can't. >> going to jail and coming home. That's. not. >> an accomplishment. >> But you do realize, blue face, you're. not supposed to be there. Correct. But. anytime you go through hardship and you. make it out, it's uncomfortable. >> Okay. >> You don't get to decide which which one. is more credible or valuable. Okay. >> Like I said, life is it's a numbers game.

right now. It's about understanding. It's not about. >> How many celebrations do I throw you? Cuz when you got out, >> just one. You only get one. >> No, but when you got out of O, I. celebrated. >> No, no, no. Nobody celebrated me for. none of that. [laughter]. >> Cuz I didn't do no time. You know, when. somebody does time and they they. >> they do it the right way, they they. [clears throat] walk it and. >> like how they talking it, >> okay? >> You celebrate them cuz that's how they. ultimately want to stay free. That's. what make them appreciate life. >> So you coming home this time and having. the celebration, your family, friends, and loved ones there to celebrate you.

That made you not want to go back. >> Exactly. You know, of course, not wanting to go. back is already a thing, but all of you. not wanting me to go back makes it even. more of a thing. >> Okay, >> that's all. Okay. >> It's a numbers game, you know, right? And not even to keep it about jail, you. know, we can go other topics with it. Anybody. >> like I just like to use the LGBTQ. community because they've come such a. long way. >> Okay. >> We don't got to get with it, >> right? >> But we have to respect their numbers.

>> No problem with it. >> So we don't get to say that, oh, they. shouldn't be celebrated because they. should. They got their numbers up. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> They living the truth. >> Yes. If they guiding people down that. way, the right way, >> right? >> Why not? Cuz too many people are doing. it the wrong way, >> right? >> Tricking us, making us believe that. it's, >> you know, it's like a stripper telling. you to go work at the club cuz she. making $10,000 every night, >> right? >> Knowing damn well she's not she's not. >> without making that kind of bread. >> and she just influenced you.

>> and now you think that was a lie. >> Clever, right? >> Or I'd rather have a stripper tell you, "Hey girl, you going you might only make. 250 every night." That's what I make. That's this XYZ, how I get by and how I. adjust and deal with it. She should be applauded for, >> right? >> At least telling you the right way. If. you want to choose to indulge, >> at least. Yeah. >> But be straight up with it. >> That's all. >> Um, why' you go to prison?

>> Getting away with too many crimes, too. many probations, too many cases pending. Um, you know, there's always one. specific thing that tips the scale, which was, [clears throat] um, I was on. probation. >> and, um, my baby mama had a show in. Utah, so I didn't tell my PO cuz I knew. he wasn't going to let me go. So, I. tried to sneak out there, you know. >> You know, >> you don't want to do You don't want to. do right for, do you? >> Got caught on TMZ. you know, he showed. up to court, my next my next court date,

and he just pressed like, look, on top of this, this, that, and that, he. did this right here. This is what we. want. And the judge just had to grant. it. >> So, what happened by the car to the car. that you was riding in? Somebody made fun of the car. >> Oh, the little the shooting in Vegas. >> Yeah. Um, to be honest, I I didn't know. anything about the jokes or anything. prior or all I know is when he pulled up. and tires were screeching and the window.

was down, he was yelling. That was the only part that I got of the. the situation and why I reacted the way. I reacted. Okay. >> Cuz I feel like my life was in danger, you know? >> Right. >> Somebody pull up, you know. It's just. I've been there before. >> Mhm. >> So, I just did what I known to do in. that moment. Is there was there a better way? You. felt you felt that your life was going. to be in danger. Do you feel that. there's a better way that we and us as. black men can handle situations? That it. doesn't always have to be life or death.

It doesn't have to always be me versus. you. >> Definitely. Definitely. I think a. conversation. is the best way. Or boxing gloves, you. know, if the conversation doesn't get. [laughter] as progressive as it should. >> You tried to glove up anybody you have. So, in other words, now if you have a. disagreement with somebody, you want to. glove up. >> Yeah. If if we can't talk it out, >> right? >> Yeah. If we got to see whose dick is. longer, let's do it. [laughter]. >> You know, you know how you know how. [ __ ] like, man, you know, some just. want to see how far they can piss next.

to you. Sometimes you just got to out. piss them. [laughter]. You can't talk them. You can't You feel. me? You can't talk them down. >> Hey, you Hey, look, bro. I ain't really. tried to go this route, but hey, >> come on. >> It seem like we here now. Yeah. >> I read when you said prison gave you a. break from responsibility. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, I did. >> So, what? You ain't got to pay no rent? You ain't got no car note. You ain't got. no utilities. Everything is taken care. of. >> Yeah. And there. Yeah.

>> You know, physically, you know, outside. I'm still paying my own bills, but I'm. not um worried about it all day or. chasing after a check to do it. You. know, >> I rather worry about responsibility to. eat a slice of bread or a banana. >> Me, too. [laughter]. >> And that chicken [clears throat] patty. That's just me. That's just me, faith. >> Me, too. But I'm, you know, I don't know. how to I just I don't know. Sometimes I. just keep it too honest, you know, too. So, I'd much rather have responsibility, but being in jail is a break from it.

>> Do you feel sometimes you be overwhelmed. that life overwhelms you? >> No. I've been living this life for a. long time. So. >> you're not tired of living this way? >> No. I had had enough rest in jail. [laughter]. >> I'm out of work, Shannon. >> But you do realize that you have kids. and you have people that are depending. on you, that are counting on you, and. you can't be in and out of that.

situation. >> No, not the jail situation, but the life. I live is ultimately how I provide for. my kids. So, I never get tired of. providing, but I'll definitely watch my. step, >> right? >> I ain't going back for for no female, for no soon as you even start talking. like that. >> You have a nice You have a nice day, baby girl. Huh? I I will never see you. again. >> You mentioned earlier that there are. classes that you can take in prison. Did. you take any classes? >> Yep. Took a compassion prison project. >> Oh, what kind of. >> compassion prison? >> Okay. Okay. What does that involve?

It's like uh [sighs] teach you how to. have compassion in prison, you know, more victim awareness, you know, um. >> more self-help, like uh you could. apologize to your victim, would you? >> Mhm. >> Um you could talk to their family stuff, you know, just uh opens you up a little. bit more to um. >> to the other to the other side to the. other side of the gun, you know, >> which was dope. Um. I took a theater class, which is like. improv though, like no talking. We're.

just walking around doing this, you. know, >> right? >> Type thing. That was pretty cool. Uh, what else did I take? I took a computer. class, >> typing class. >> You good with computers? >> Nah, I was pretty I was pretty terrible, but I was doing whatever to get out the. sale, you know? >> Right. >> So, these classes. >> So, all these classes kept you out of. the sale. >> Classes, I obligate this door to open, [laughter] you know? Without it, my [ __ ]. was never open. I'm like, man, how are. how are you out walking around? You. know, cuz every like it's like a college.

campus, right? >> So some people working, they got their. work sweater on and backpacks and they. out roaming around. >> and you just in the cell window watching. like, [ __ ] how are you out every day? >> Like I want somebody to get in that. class then, you know, put me in there. >> And then, you know, that's how I started. moving around. >> But you were good. Have you gotten. better at. >> Yeah. at typing? Yeah. Yeah. I learned a. little bit in there. It was actually more like um. drawing up like insurance papers and it. just showed you like how to.

>> do more like docu sign type stuff. Documents. >> necessarily type of. >> You own a restaurant right now, right? A. seafood restaurant. >> Yes, sir. >> King of crab. >> Yeah. >> What made you get into hospitality? What. made you had to decide to open up a. business? A reputable A real business. and not be a street pharmacy. >> Right. Right. No. Um, so at this time I. was kind of um. kind of falling off my little my little. music [ __ ]. >> Mhm. >> I had a few dollars. I'm like, damn,

what should I do with these dollars? So, uh, I start looking into franchising. stuff and that stuff is hard, man. They. want your damn kindergarten report card, you know? So, I'm like, I ain't got all. that, you know? >> Right. >> Start looking into weed shops. All. right. They want too much. Got to buy. 100 pounds and the store and this farmer. is Yeah, that ain't that a make money. too fast. [sighs]. So, uh, I walk into this, uh, fish.

place, you know. I was actually buying a. car from a place across the street. Somebody stole my car. Damn. Somebody. stole my car from the airport. Um, so. I'm stuck at the airport. I'm like, I'm. about to go get another car. Go to. Mercedes. Uh while you know how it takes. a minute to buy a car. >> Yeah. >> Man, I'm hungry, bro. I'm about to go to. this this fish spot right here. Go in. there, eat the food. Oh yeah, that's good. How much How much. y'all want? Let me uh let me buy into. this. Let me get a percent, you know.

>> Hey, turn me down. Oh, no, man. We ain't. doing that. You know, we got it going. on. They got their family business, whatever. All right. All right. Bet. Well, just take my number, >> you know. >> Just in case. >> Just in case. Sure enough, they Hey, we. we've uh we tired. We ready to sell? Spoon. 80,000. Gave him 80,000 cash. >> now. I got a fish plot, >> right? >> I don't got no recipe. >> Yeah. >> I don't got no menu. I don't got. nothing. Feel me? But I'm like, man,

call my mom. Hey, man. I just got this. fish. I need you to come down here and. run this. >> Right. >> Boom. >> But the people that was cooking, they. still stay there, right? The the cooks. and stuff still stay. >> Yeah. So, they was like the owners was. working in there cooking type thing. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Feel me? So they was tired. They like, "Man, we want to sell. We about to go. invest in this and that.". >> Right. >> Bet. All right. Here's the money. >> All right. Mom should uh I got this fish. restaurant. [laughter]. >> Come running for me. You know, I know. you know how to cook, >> right? >> She had a couple uh restaurant out in.

Ohio. So, I'm thinking like it's perfect. family. mom, you know, I was paying her, her husband, and the. rent. I'm like, "All right." You know, the. first couple months, okay? About 6. months later, I'm like, "Hey, hold on. [laughter]. Where the money going? How I'm paying. you and the rent, right? >> At least one of them should be covered. You should be paying yourself and I pay. the rent, >> right? >> Or vice versa. She taking out loans, credit cards, and.

the business name, you know? Oh my. goodness. >> Without me knowing approving, right? >> So she just hit me with the debt like, "Oh, I owe this on the taxes this and. that. I don't owe nothing. You got to pay. that." So that kind of then she got. tired and uh kind of quit on me, >> right? >> So boom, she quit on me. Um so now I. just got this place now with no nothing. So uh. >> how did that make you feel? You got this.

investment spot. You're trying to do the. right thing. >> Yeah. >> And you like, you know, mom, I trust you. and you know, I know you can cook a. little bit, so come down here and help. me run it. And you mentioned that you're. paying the the lease on the building. >> You're paying her salary. Ain't no money. coming in. And now she's taking out. loans and credit cards in the business. name in which is you're responsible for. >> Yeah. But we making like 30,000 a month. >> Okay. >> Obviously, not all profit. You know, a. lot of that margin is going into daily.

upkeep. >> Yeah. You got to buy the food and stuff. like that. >> Food service. Yeah. >> So off the back, we probably making at. least 5 to 10,000 just in profit, you. know. >> Yeah. Nice little Hey, nice little gig. >> We doing comedy nights, >> you know. We start selling drinks and. >> all type of stuff. So it just stopped. adding up after a while, you know. >> Um. >> so boom, now I'm stuck with this place. Um I walk into another place, the king. of crafts. [laughter].

on receipt. So, I'm an investor, man. That's what I am. I think that's what. I'm good at. I don't want to run it. I. just want to see it. >> You just want to invest it. You want to. plant the seed and then watch it grow. >> Exactly. So, I walk into this place, >> try their food. >> Oh, that [ __ ] Fine. >> How much, man? [laughter] How much to. make this over here at this right here? I already got the place, right? You. know, I already got it. All I need you. to do is make it work. >> He's like, um, some Armenian dude named. uh Eddie. He's my boy now. We business. partners. We got a um I got majority.

ownership 6545. >> Okay. 6535. >> Yeah. >> No, no, no. Not even that. 5545. >> Okay. >> 5545. >> And I had to damn bargain with him for. that. I'm like, damn, bro. >> You don't want to help re renovate? Cuz. I had to. >> gut it, completed. >> Yeah. So, it cost me 300,000 just to. make my place approved for his place. >> Right. So, the money go going out like. look man, I need 55 45, bro. [ __ ] that. 50/50. Right. At first it's 50/50, you.

know, when I want. >> Yeah. Because But you were putting all. the money in. So you got to have a. little bit more sink. >> Yeah. So boom. Uh once we agree to that, that's uh I put the money up just while. I'm in jail though, you know. I put the. money up, got it re renovated, and boom. That's how that's how it came. about today. Just walked in, tried the. food. >> So they they still got that same food. >> Same recipe. >> You still excited? So you still sit down. to eat and still get that same feeling? >> Yeah. fire. Feel real boss like, you. know,

>> or you can just go in a restaurant and. just make it yours. >> Yeah. >> So, you think that's that's your most. sound investment? >> Yeah. >> Cuz I think it's a the restaurant. business is very um. >> very volatile. >> Very hard. >> Yeah, it is very hard, >> you know, but it's a it's more of a. fiveyear thing, you know, than a two to. three year. >> Yeah, for sure. >> So, I like that about it, right? >> You know, something that I can forget. about. >> like it's not making me money today or. yesterday. I can forget about it. You know, it's. keeping up with itself.

>> In about five years, we it'll. >> you'll re-evaluate it. Maybe do I want. to maybe I want to sell? Maybe I want a. franchise. >> Exactly. But I have the option, you. know, I have something there. A tree at. least. >> Right. Are the is the investment is that your. best purchase? Is that the best use of. your money? >> Uh. besides my houses and stuff, yeah, >> probably. Yeah. You got you got rental. properties. >> or you just got properties you live in?

>> Yeah, I got properties I live in and. then I sell. So, it's like cool. I'm. never like too stuck in one place and. I'm not leasing or renting nothing. So, >> it's just cool to have assets to to play. with sometimes, you know? >> Right. Um, business versus rapping. the investment portfolio arm, your. business, your restaurants for rapping. Where you make your where you make your. money at or you go to these deals? >> Uh, yeah, rapping of course is how I was. like a stepping stone for me, you know?

So, I can't can't never forget about it. That's how I'm able to do all the stuff. that I'm able to do. So, I still feed. that feed the market. But. >> my heart's not in that, you know. If it. was up to me, I'd be you a businessman. now. >> Yeah. I'd be in the background. Nobody. know me with a 100 million. [laughter]. It's better that way. You feel me? I can. have more. >> Oh, Lord have mercy. >> That don't know about you. You feel me? >> They they know about you. >> No, but I know. But they they don't got. to be as out there, you know?

>> Oh. Oh. Oh. You don't want your business. out there. >> Yeah. You know, if I can have the money. without my business being out there, >> I much take that. But I can't have it. like that yet. Mean, my business got to. be out there. >> That's how the money come in. [laughter]. >> What have you learned about the music. business? I've learned that you cannot count any. artist out. You know, when you think. they done, when you think it's over, um. >> it's never over. >> It's never over. You're truly um. underestimating the power of music and.

the power of rap. Anybody could um do something very. courageous, very sporadic, and drop a. song with it, and they'll be back. So, music has taught me not to write people. off, you know? >> Right. Are you still signed to Cash. Money? >> Uh, no. I'm not signed to anyone right. now. Right. >> But you were signed to Cash Money, right? >> Why'd you sign there? >> Uh, I feel like they were the most. understanding. as far as my lifestyle. >> Mhm. So, at the time, a lot of lot of.

labels was calling and reaching out to. me. But, um, Atlantic, you know, I went to. Atlantic. I met the um little vice. president lady, you know, she just kind. of asked me a question like she was. like, "Are you a crypt?" Like with a C, you know, like crypt or I mean with a T. at the end. I didn't really know what she meant, you. know? So I'm like crypt. What you mean? Are you? And then my homie was like, "She saying you a [ __ ] nigga." Like I'm. [laughter] like, "Oh shit.". >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I probably ain't going to be able. to sign here. Like I don't even you know.

I can't see me [sighs]. >> cuz I was doing it all by myself right. >> in the beginning. I'm doing the. bookings. I'm doing the. >> You didn't have a manager. you didn't. have a team or anything like that. You. did all of this from from the ground. So. I like I said, I like being the boss, >> right? >> So I didn't I didn't even want to give. my bossly duties away to somebody who. wasn't even. understand where I'm coming from, >> right? >> So Cash Money, they was some some [ __ ]. [ __ ] you know, >> right? >> So I signed with some cuz I could do.

[ __ ] [ __ ] I could drop a song tonight. They going to take it down, you know? Drop white people, they going to take. that [ __ ] right down. What the Birdman. teach you? Could. >> worry about that business. Bury about. that bread. >> Yeah. No, for sure. Birdman taught me just um try to conduct. yourself, you know, carry yourself. You. can still be a [snorts] a street dude. and. >> Right. >> move. um like a corporate person. >> Yes, >> that's probably the best thing I'll say.

>> Double XX 2019 freshman class. Gunonna, Meg, Baby, Rody Witch, Cord part of that. class, man. I mean, >> yeah, that was a good class. >> Yeah. Are you in contact with any do you do. you you know, you in contact with any of. those any of these people currently? >> Nope. >> No. I mean, I've done music with a. couple of them out after that. >> Right. >> But, uh, as far as today? No. I. >> mean, that's nice class. You the best.

rapper in that class? Of. >> course, man. Damn. The baby. Oh yeah, the baby crazy too. Yeah, he go. crazy. >> Gun last album that thing here. >> Yeah, Gunner be going crazy too. I ain't. going to lie. He I like his new sound. and going with it. >> I don't know. Blue. I mean, you know, Meg. >> Yeah, I know, man. [laughter]. >> H features. I mean, Cardi B, Offset,

Little Baby, Gun of the Baby, NL. Chopper, Kevin Gates. How was the. experience? So, let me ask you a. question. How so? When you want to do. something with somebody, what you do? You get on because you, you know, you. don't like to turn your duties over to. anybody else. You you you the boss and. you like to handle that. So, you just. reach out on your own. >> Uh, so no, I mean, I like being the. boss, but if I give you the duty, I. don't micromanage. >> Okay. >> I let you. >> let you do what you do. >> I let you do it until I think you're not. doing good enough, and then I'll. probably step in and start hitting. people up. So, and a lot of those.

features was just uh my manager or or. the label just networking. I never. really went out for any of those. Um, and then a lot of ones that came in was. through management and network, you. know, >> I wasn't trying to get on anybody some. So, that's how that went. >> How did that Cardi B feature change. change blue face? >> Yeah, that that took me over that water, man. That's when overseas start coming. in. >> all the states, you know, New York and.

whatnot. You know, at first I was just. like California, West Coast popping and. then Cardi just took me across the map. So that's probably what, you know, billboards and all the stuff, whatnot. So shout out to Cardi, man. >> Have you uh have you have you talked to. her since that time? I mean, she got a. little she got got a baby got another. baby now. >> Well, not since that time, but after. that, yeah, she brought me out a couple. shows, couple arenas. >> Um, she's dope. She always treated me. respect. And then you went on tour with Little. Baby.

>> Yep. Yep. Yeah. So it started just. going. >> Yeah. You feel me? Just start going and. going. >> So when it's go when it's going like. that, did you like hoard the money? Like. it's really good right now. I'm going, "Hey, I'm Cardi. I'm out with Cardi. I'm. out with little baby." Uh, did you hoard. the money? >> Yeah, for sure. That's a part of uh. >> That's a part of the restaurant, huh? That got the cream of crab on. >> No, that was I was late in the. beginning. And I wasn't on no. investment. It was too good. I wasn't. even. >> You weren't even thinking about nothing. >> I wasn't even thinking about nothing. You feel me? I'm buying jewelry, all.

type of [ __ ] Cars. >> Um, at that time I I started buying. houses though. That was probably the. best investment I made. I had two houses. at at one time. >> Let me ask you this. Can you c given. your current probation situation, you. have to get clearance from your. probation officer to like go state to. state or go out the country? >> County to county. >> County to county. >> To county. >> Yeah. It's bad. That's why I'm only. doing like local stuff right now. >> until, you know, they get a little bit. more rapport with me. Yeah. >> They decide that they trust me more to.

leave. >> Right. >> Well, you know, you can't make that big. bread until you able to go state to. state country. >> I mean, I know. I'm just waiting. You. know, probably top of 2026, >> right? You got cosign. I mean, Drake, I. mean, you out here in the West Coast, so. you know, Kendrick. >> No, I don't. >> You don't? >> Nope. I thought all the West Coast rapper I. thought y'all knew each other. I thought. y'all were cool like that. >> It should be. I [ __ ] Uh, you know, you know,

everybody be lifing. >> Yeah. >> Some people be. >> doing their thing, >> you know. So, it's hard for all of us to. get together, but it's nothing but a DM, phone call, text message, you know. >> Right. You cool with Drake? >> Uh, yeah. Drake's cool. He reached out. to me early on, showed me some love, >> right? You gave your beat? >> Yep. send me some beats, uh, Boy Wonder. beats and stuff. >> Wow. >> Yeah. So, it was cool. Like, you know, once it got lit, everybody was swimming. It's the It's the aftermath. We let you. know like what's real and what's not.

You know, >> when those features and whatnot don't. pull through, it's like, oh, okay. Okay. >> That we on, huh? >> It was just for the moment. All right. >> Who Who would you like to collab with. that you haven't worked with? >> [ __ ] Kendrick. Oh. Make that h make that happen, Shannon. >> You better. I don't know nobody in the. music business. >> Make that happen, Shannon. [laughter]. >> I might get me a beat myself. >> Right. If you can make it happen.

[laughter]. >> Uh, better days. Is that your best all. time? >> Uh, lyrically? Probably. Yeah, lyrically. I mean, I can do that, you. know, I can get lyrical, but it's not my. style, you know. I'm fun. I make music. for women. So, what you try? So, so where you going. with it? What you trying to do now? >> Now, I'm just trying to go on another. run and get out the way. No, now that I. know the. >> the mind state of when I get the money.

and it's running. >> Mhm. >> exactly what to do. >> Run it up, move on. >> Exactly. I ain't trying to be 30 out. here trying to appeal to the young kids, you know? I'm trying to. >> Bro, that's a year away. >> Exactly. So, I only got a year left. So you trying to run it up in the next. in the next 12? >> Yeah. Set up shop, man. I just feel like. once you get older, you can't be trying. to appeal to the younger audience. forever, you know? >> Right. >> Starts to take a toll on you growing.

>> Why did you fall out with uh Baba Little. Baby and Ellie Chopper Offset? Remember we talked about it earlier, that conversation had sitting down. having a conversation. >> Yeah. Uh [ __ ] like I said, when it's. when it's hot, these is respectful. You. know, when when you lit, they know how to act. Second, your [ __ ]. you know, which everyone does. Even. those people are at that moment right. now when it gets rocky. >> Mhm. >> Start acting funny. >> When you say acting funny, what? They. didn't call, they didn't write, they.

said no feature, they didn't want to hop. on it. They they they no blue face. >> They just step out out their body. So, for example, in Elite Chopper, I helped this man. I got him I got him. all his little [ __ ] going. He used to. video chat me with girls like, "Look, I. know Blueface." And I used to be like, "Yeah, that's the bro, you know, with. him. You can't do that." And then two. years later when you feel like you who. are you who are starting [ __ ] like, "Oh, you hitting a girl and all this and you.

just start, you know, just going with. the trend." Did you see my interview. with. >> T pay? >> T Payne say when they tell nobody's your. brother. They're only their brother as. long as they can use you. When you hot, you can do them a solid. They're your. brother. >> When you cannot, they not your brother. >> Yeah, we falling out then. That's how I. am. Soon as I see that, we falling out. The second second I. >> But you went in with the wrong idea. You. actually thought they were your brother, bro. >> I mean, I didn't come in industry, you.

know, right? >> I just came into the industry. I wasn't. already. >> So, it's something you got to learn. >> You think fast food restaurants like you. >> or they like the money that you provide. >> That's different though. >> No, it's not. >> Definitely is. Cuz if we getting money. together, you better like me. >> No. >> Me and this fast food restaurant ain't. getting no money together. I'm giving. them money. >> But here's the thing. That's what they. looking. You can't give them no more. money. >> You see how they did that? >> Yeah. >> You ain't They looking at you say, "Well, you you can't bring us no more.

money.". >> Yeah, but that's not cool. They weren't your brothers to begin. with. When you were hot, they were your. brothers. >> That's still not cool. >> What you want me to What you want to. What are you trying to convince me? Sh. >> No, I ain't trying to convince you. I'm. trying to convince you. You had the And. I get it. We've all been We've all been. there, man. That's my brother. We cool. Yada yada yada. >> You trying to say I'm taking it too. personal? >> Yeah. >> Well, >> but you learn though. >> If if you if you video calling me to get.

some. That's a little too personal for me. then. >> Yeah. >> If you video calling me, look, I know. Blueface. >> Yeah, >> bro. What you mean? >> But see, you had better times out. It. were better times. >> No, you don't. You don't forget [ __ ]. like that. You don't get to do that. You. don't get to two years later, you got a. cool song or whatever, whatever the case. may be, and you just think like, "Oh, >> you thought y'all was really down, huh?". >> Not even just down. At least down enough.

for you not to go against me. >> Oh, okay. I usually Yeah. >> Feel me? >> Yeah. >> You can mind your business. >> Oh, okay. >> But if you. >> you feel they spoke out of pocket. >> Yeah. If you see my girl or you or see. something online, you don't you know you. don't. >> you don't comment. >> Yeah. You don't step out your body. >> Oh. Oh. So now, so that's why you want to. glove up. So you want to glove up. Soulja Boy in LA Chopper. I don't know. about Jake Paul. Jake Paul might be, you. know, Jake Paul got real hand. Nick. Young. Yeah. All of them.

>> You You trying to get Soulja Boy to. catch a fade? >> Nah. Soldier too small. >> Damn. >> Damn. >> Soldier too small. >> Well, I think Jake Paul a little bit too. big, >> man. Jake Paul about 210, 215. >> About 220. >> I'm 210. >> I don't know if you really like that. though. Uh, Blue Face. I'm fresh out, >> man. You see, Chan, I'm fresh out, man. >> Yeah, but that that's that's a whole.

different ball game. >> Exactly. That take a different type of. heart. That. >> I ain't saying that you I ain't saying. that you afraid to get in the ring with. him now. I don't I believe, >> but I thank God. I mean, I mean, I don't. know your skill set like that. >> Come on, man. I'm like that. >> Okay. Like, come on, Shannon. >> Can we start out Can we start out with. somebody like before you can you work. your way up to. >> I'm already two and0. I'm not asking to fight him in my first. fight, Shannon. I already been doing. this in the arenas in London. >> But I'm saying two fights and you ready.

to step to Jake Paul? >> I'm about to whoop Nick Kent, man. You. you know Jake Paul fights, you know, some of them going to be. all right. >> Well, he getting ready to fight Anthony. Joshua. >> Yeah. And and we going to see how that. goes. [laughter]. And if anything happens other than. what's exactly supposed to happen. Oh, you gonna say something ain't right. >> I ain't going to say nothing. >> I love Oh, you going to watch. >> Everybody else going to say I ain't. >> You going to watch the fight?

>> Yeah, I support his fight. I think he's. pretty good. >> He's gotten a hell of a lot better. He's. actually You can actually consider him a. boxer now. >> Yeah. >> I mean, and he's stepping up. I mean, Anthony Joshua is a legit fighter. He. was a former heavyweight champion of the. world. >> Exactly. >> He won Olympic He won an Olympic gold. medal. He can really He can fight. >> No, I agree. I salute it. >> Now we going to see if uh uh if Jake can. touch him because you know his chin a. little suspect but he but he. >> Hey,

>> but if he touch Jake Paul. >> Yeah. What's going to happen? >> Or if he if he catch him, you know. what's going to happen? >> What he going to do? He going What's. going to happen if he catch Jake Paul? >> He going to taste the canvas. >> Okay. >> But you don't think that's going to. happen. What you think is going to happen? Give. me Give us your prognostication on the. fight. We got to the judges scorecard. >> How?

It's pre-ordained. >> Oh, Lord have mercy. It's the best way I can say it. It's. pre-ordained, man. >> NLE Chopper, NBA Young Boy seem to have. a back and forth going on. What are your. thoughts on that? You were Are you cool. with You were cool with NLE Chopper. >> I don't know if you know NBA. Yeah. Yeah. I've spoken with bro before. I. mean, I don't know. And at least been. asking for it for a long time. So, >> you got beef with that man. What that? Cuz it made cuz he he put the phone up.

there and he got some brawls because he. knew you and now you feeling some type. of way. >> No. Only thing reason I felt type way is. when he went online and started um you. know, defending. uh whoever I was dealing with at the. time. You know, it's like why would you. do that? >> Oh, you just trying to jump on a train. get a little buzz going. You don't got. to do that gang, >> right? >> But that's how NL is. NLE is kind of. like a a clown to this [ __ ] you feel. me? >> Okay. >> Whatever they say do, >> be gay, be Muslim, be.

>> a vegetarian, vegan, >> he going to do it. >> Okay. >> He's going through a lot of phases. That's all. >> He growing up, but when he looks back, he's going to realize, you know, a lot. of a lot of these phases were. >> Yeah. He uh he had a real one. >> Yeah. And you know, young boy, he ain't. he he done already went through his. phases. So, it's like. >> But as far as the beef goes, I don't. know. I don't know which one's better.

Who's I don't even know what's the beef. So, to really speak on it, I just know. NLE, so I can. >> You can speak on him. >> You feel me? I know him. The real him. >> Y'all need to get into a room and y'all. need to hash this out. >> We can do that. >> Yeah, that's very easy to have a. conversation. And I'll tell him to his. face, "Bro, what the hell is wrong with. you?". >> Right? >> Why are you like, "Are you. >> you you upset at the fact that he. commented on something that he shouldn't. have?". >> Just put himself in. Yeah. >> He interjected himself when he should. have. >> just picked a side, you know?

>> Picked aside type [ __ ] And you can't. never choose the female. [clears throat]. Now that's weird. You feel me? Imagine. Imagine you and your girl getting into. it, right? >> And I'm and I'm speaking up for your. female. >> Oh yeah. He's right. You're right. Man, you. >> Shannon, if you don't slap the out of. >> Yeah, you [laughter] you ain't. >> Well, you right. When you right, you. ain't wrong. >> Yeah, man. Hey, you don't shut the up. while I'm talking to this. >> No, young lady. Yeah. Yeah, young lady.

[snorts]. >> Why do you rappers Why you guys have. have beef? What causes it? There's enough women out. here for everybody. >> Uh the fans. The fans make these rappers feel like. they got to do something. >> Okay. in certain times where they don't. got to do nothing unless it play out and. that the situation is going to play out. But the fans Yeah, the fans fans are. different right now. The fans are. controlling everybody right now. So, it's a little weird. It wasn't like that.

when I was doing my thing. So, I ain't. got hip to that yet. >> Uh Tekashi, you know, was making fun of your. tattoos. You want to box him? Uh yeah, I would love to box him, but he. just got a tattoo on his face. See how that works, >> but he but he's small. I mean, you you. keep talking. >> Yeah, but people want to see him in. pain, you know, for what what he done to. the to the real one. So, I would love to. be that guy. >> I tell I got a fight for you.

>> A little pain. >> I got a fight for you. >> Who? >> My partner, oo. Oo is not [ __ ] with me, man. >> Oo, >> I seen Oo fight though. He's pretty. good. >> Yeah, >> he's an athlete. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, Oo is pretty good. >> Yeah, >> I seen him get knocked out. >> I make I can make it happen. >> Yeah, you got that. >> You won't I mean, but I mean I don't. know if you I don't know if you can go. back and I don't know if you can rap. after oo make you take.

>> Come on now. >> You got to touch earth. Nah, I'm [sighs]. I'm not a I'm not the toughest guy in. the world, you know. So, but I'm a. different I'm a different breed, man. If. I touch the canvas, somebody else going to touch the canvas, too. >> Okay. >> I'm going get my ass up. >> Put my hands up. >> Yeah. >> And I'm going to make sure you I'm going. to make sure it's even. >> I promise you. Just cuz I got that dog. in me. You feel me? Some people get hit. >> hard enough to where they don't want to.

get up, >> right? You hit me hard enough and I. can't get up. It's bad for you, Shannon. >> It's bad for you. Like, >> hold on. I saw Aaron Garcia almost. locked the breath out of you. >> Yeah, he did. Actually, >> I mean, I fed up cuz I lifted my arms. up. So, I kind of like. >> No, you got to put. >> Yeah, exactly. So, I kind of. >> Why would you lift him up to give him a. body shot? >> No, not to take one. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But why. would you do that? >> I thought I was tough.

You just told me you was tough. >> Yeah, but my liver ain't tough. I guess. [laughter]. my [ __ ] weak. >> Did you brace? >> No, that's what I'm saying. I was. started. So, like I got nervous before. he swung, so I yelled a little bit. So, I just opened it up like so it was like. the best was the best thing in boxing. that you can hit somebody like. >> Oh, liver shot. Yeah. >> While their arms are up. >> and they not bracing, they actually like. >> Yeah. No, that's. >> it all out, huh? >> Yeah, that shirt.

>> You should let him s you one time. >> Who? No. >> No. >> You took Aaron Pumba's girl. Girl, >> she's on my my uh Fresh Out of Love. show. I didn't know it was his girl. until he came out and made a whole. little thing about it. She hasn't been. chosen yet. So, I haven't taken her yet. Just. >> What if he want to box? The winner take. her. >> How many fights does Aaron have? Will take the take the young lady. I.

>> ain't boxing him for no. I already got. her. >> I thought you say you didn't have her. yet. >> She's at the crib. >> I haven't chosen her yet as one of my. concubines. >> She's there, you know, trying out. >> She trying out. >> She's applying herself. [laughter]. >> That B going to see this, man. You do. realize that, right? >> Yeah. But he, you know, I don't think. Aaron's tender like that. He's supposed. to be the plumber. Oh Lord have mercy.

You was stabbed and robbed um. at the gym. >> You training, right? [snorts]. >> Mhm. >> What happened? Do you know you. were you talking edge or just. >> No, actually it was um I remember that. day very vividly. I um pulled up to the. gym at like 9:00 a.m. training. Uh, I. needed some water. So when I parked in. front of the gym, I walked across the. street to this little. >> convenience store, >> little restaurant type thing.

>> Got a water. I walked out. There was. this black girl on the phone. She just. kept looking at me, smiling on the. phone, looking at me, walking past. I'm. like, damn, that's kind of weird. All. right. You know, I wake, you know, I'm. thinking it's a fan. >> That's always what plays on my head. So. I go into the gym. Boom. I'm training 30 minutes probably. A dude walks in with the dog and he got. his little little pocketk knife, you. know, clipped on it. >> Yeah. >> And he just walks in. You know, the it's. just a vulnerable moment. You know, it's.

early. I just came in. The door is. usually locked, but you know, at this. time it's not locked just because of the. circumstances. You know, gym ain't open. yet. >> Um, you want to fight? >> Who are you? Don't worry about who I am. You want to fight me or what? You like. to fight, big dog? you like to do this, do that. Who are you? Uh then he starts yelling like, "Oh, you. some my girl was with my girl." Like, "Bro, I don't know. I don't know nothing.

about nothing, bro.". >> He's like, "What's your girl name?". >> Yeah. You know, like you know, yeah, that's literally what I'm saying. He. like, "Don't worry about it, bro. We You. want to fight or what?". >> So, I'm like, "All right, bro." He just. He's just on one like, "All right, put. the dog up, bro, and we can put some. gloves on, man. Come on." Like, you. know, I'm training. Come on. No, I want to go bare hands. Like, oh, he going for the full court press, huh? [laughter]. All right. So, when he start doing that, my trainer steps in the middle of us and. he he starts talking to him like, "Hold.

on, bro." Like, you doing too much. I'm. like, "Man, I already feel like, you. know, like it's my time now." So, I step. to the side. >> Yeah. >> And I glide. Bam. Bam. Give him a cold. little twopiece. He hit [clears throat]. his head like. >> You snuck him. >> Yeah. M. >> I got gloves on though. I didn't take my. gloves off. >> So, but I'm I'm feeling like I'm being. pressed, you know. So, now I'm just. reacting, you know, to to his actions. >> So, I take my moment. Boom. He hit the. pole, come back. Now, he start going for.

the knife, but he like backing up, you. feel me? So, at first I'm on him. He hit. the pole. I'm thinking he about to fall, but he hit the pole and come back and he. start going back. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ]. you going to pull that knife out, huh?". He like, "I sure the am." pulled it up, whipped it, and put it right behind his. ear and start chasing me like this. I. ain't gonna lie, Shannon. And I was. running. >> He was He was chasing me all around. I'm. boxing gym like a maniac, >> right? >> So, boom. When I back up like, "You.

going to pull the knife out?" I sure am. Boom. Wham. >> I turn around. I retreat. I jump in the. ring. He stabbed me in the That's how he. stabbed me in the leg cuz I got caught. in the rope trying to get in the ring. Boom. Catch me in the leg. I'm like, "Oh. yeah, he's serious. Let me stop. Let me. run a little faster. [laughter]. Let me run a little faster. He just got. me, >> right? >> So, boom. He uh now I'm in the ring. He. like outside the ring. I'm like, man, he's trying to scrape me. So, soon as he. jump in the ring, I jump out the ring.

and I run out the gym. This [ __ ] like a. scary movie, Shannon. I'm holding the. door like this. >> So, you think you think the girl that. was on the phone set you up? I think she was on the phone with him. probably and she probably made it seem. like, oh, he was talking to me like he. >> Yeah. >> And that was probably her dude or. something, >> right? >> And then he just pulled up like, you. know how dudes are, >> right? >> I'll do something to him right now. Stop. playing with me. You know, she probably. like, "Oh, you ain't going to do. nothing." That's Blueface. Like, >> right? >> That's the best recollection I come up. with. >> Did you know who So you to this day, you.

don't know who it was? >> I don't know nothing about this dude, man. He was like 30 years old with a. tank top on. Well, clearly you ain't got. no dynamite in your hand cuz you caught. him flush and didn't drop him. >> I did. The pole caught him. So, as he's. going, the only reason I even gave him a. breath like to The only reason he got. able to retreat and pull the knife out. >> Yeah. >> Is cuz the pole caught him. I hit him. with a lift. He's going down like, "Oh. yeah, I'm going to get on top of him.". >> Hey yo, pause. Hold on. [laughter]. >> So, boom.

>> Hey yo, hold up. So, boom. As he going. back though, it's a pole. Bow. He hit. his head on the pole and now he's like. this and he start backing up. So I start. backing up. Oh [ __ ]. >> I should have got up on him though. I. shouldn't have let him pull it out. I. should have, you know, but I had the. gloves on. So I. >> But if you if you if you had dynamite in. them things, it have been over. The pole. couldn't have saved it. >> Whatever. >> You ain't got no dynamite anyway. The. cake blow you throwing at him. >> I'm holding the door barricaded, man. He's like this like a scary movie. He. trying to get out. I'm like, uhuh. I.

ain't letting you out. You stabbed me. Hell no. So boom. As I'm looking in his. eyes though, he's starting coming back. to life. Like the rage is like slowly. He's starting to realize he just stabbed. me. >> So I'm like, "All right, bro. I'm going. to let you out." This jump in the Tesla, put the dog in a Tesla, jump in the car. I'm so sacking the windows now. So the. gloves start doing me justice. You know, >> you break his window. >> Busting the window, man. So I bust the. window. He drive down the street, jump. out the car like, "Oh, y'all didn't see.

that?". >> I'm like, "Bro, >> WELL, HOLD ON." WHAT? WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. YES, BRO. >> The dude show up at the gym wanting to. squabble. Okay. You hit him with a. two-piece. He falls back, but he catches. his balance. He goes in his pocket with. the clip on. Boom. >> Stabs you in the leg. >> Chasing around the gym. >> Chasing you around the gym. You try to. jump in the ring. You get caught in the. rope. He hits you in the leg. Okay. Now, you run out the gym. He's inside the. gym. You got a book barricaded in. >> As you see that glaze that was on his. eyes that he really wanted to kill you.

And you see that start to dissipate. You. like, "Okay, bro. I'mma let your ass out. now, but you need to be chill.". >> Yeah. >> You let him out. He put the dog in a. Tesla. You like. >> I start raging now. [laughter]. Socking all the windows. >> You bust you. You drive off, get down the street to. the light and start waving this. Get out. and start looking in the air like, "Yo, did you see that? He just hit the. window." I'm like, "Bro, what the you. just stabbed?". >> You should Okay,

>> down the street, you feel me? >> You said call the You call the police. >> So, I guess some strange way the fire truck. was driving by and I'm stabbed. So, we. wait a fire truck now like, you know, try to patch me up type [ __ ] and then it. went from there. >> You had to get stitches? >> Yeah. On the inside and outside. So, he. stabbed me like knife went in two. inches. >> Yeah. Damn. >> Yeah. I started to get my tissue. stitched up in my skin. >> Damn. >> Yeah. And I had a fight. I couldn't.

fight. [ __ ] up my fight. >> Yeah. It was pretty weird. But it's part of life, you know. I. reacted and whatever happened happened. >> Did you uh you had did you fight in. prison? You had any boxing matches in. prison? >> Yeah. Yeah. You undefeated? I mean, is there any record? Can we can. Can we verify this? >> Um, if I had to put a record on it,

>> yeah, >> I didn't have that many fights to be. honest. But the ones that I did have, I. probably say really [ __ ] like nine and0. >> Oh, you talking about Oh, you talking. about you talking about in the ring or. you talking about. >> ain't no ring in prison or. >> Oh, you t Oh, you you you. >> Yeah, got to or else people gonna start. doing weird [ __ ]. >> So, I wasn't just fighting people just. to fight them, right? You have to like. do something to me. Like steal something. while I'm not looking. >> Okay. >> Or. >> how you know they stole it? >> Talking crazy.

>> Um [ __ ] You was the last person here, man. We got to fight, man. >> Damn. >> Even if you didn't steal it, you should. you should at least know who stole it. You feel me? You you with me. >> So you squabbbling damn about anything. >> Just if I feel. >> they challenge you. >> If I feel disrespected. Yeah. Not just because you want to fight me or. you. >> But you a celeb in prison. >> Exactly. So that's why I I'm I'm. fighting who I want to fight, you know? I'm not fighting the small dudes or.

I'm I'm fighting, you know? >> I'm not dictating who I'm fighting, >> right? >> I'm dictating who I'm fighting cuz. there's plenty other people I got you. You want to fight me? All right. Fight. these 10 [ __ ] right here. And if you. win, you can fight. Nobody's winning. [laughter]. I'm a [ __ ] you feel me? I just get to. fight the final boss first, >> right? >> I'm the final boss. >> So, how are celebrities treated in. prison?

>> Do you be get to be in G-pop? Are you in. SEG? How how how. >> so they they you do a lot of talking to. like counselors and um reps and whatnot. And u if you if you tell them you want. to go in there, they're going to send. you in there. >> [sighs]. >> A lot of people be saying they force you. or they don't force you, bro. You tell. them, "Hey, I'm cool with it." Yeah. And. they'll send you in there. >> And then as far as the treatment, everybody treats you like you're not. famous in there cuz it's like a. >> Now who you you ain't nobody. You ain't.

here with your foot up. >> Exactly. So that's the treatment as a. celebrity. Even the police treat you. like that. >> It's prison like life where people be. asking you for your food. >> You know how they say, "Hey, you going. to eat your cornbread?". >> Yeah. People be actually asking for your. food. >> Yeah. >> What do you say? No, I ain't giving you. my food. I'mma eat it. >> Depending on how you say it and how they. take it, you'll be good. >> How you ask for it? Hey, bro, you going. to eat that? Yeah, I am. >> Yeah. Just like that. You feel me? >> Mhm.

>> You know how to do it, Shannon? You know. when somebody's like, you feel like you. can take it. >> Yeah. >> Or when somebody like, man, he said he. said he going to eat it. I ain't going. to, you know. But it's not even just on. no tough [ __ ] It's just some people. just want to eat, you know, if they see. something on your tray that you not. touching or you saving like you're not. going to eat that, bro. Like, no. Type. [ __ ] You might just be saving it for. the for the end type. >> So, you just be like, "No, bro. I'm. eating this, >> right?". >> It don't be like nobody trying to bully.

for. >> I was going to say mean somebody you. just Oh, you want that that that piece. of white bread? >> Yeah. >> Knock yourself out. >> But if they feel like they can take it, they will, you know. >> Oh, will really? Yeah. If they feel. like, man, you ain't eating that. Yeah. So, prison jail is all about like. >> it's all about respect, man, but you're. not respecting the man. Play. >> It's all about like masculinity. It's. all about like, you know, who's. masculine. It's no like. >> So, if you got. >> if you got some Yeah. If you a little. like not masculine enough, you they.

going to test you. >> Yeah. >> You going, you know, everybody know who. to try it with. So you had them tattoos. They you had tattoos in there. Say, "Oh, he for real.". >> Yeah. Then I start getting big. Yeah. >> Oh, you started popping that eye. So you. Hey, you straight. You push up. They got. They don't They took the weights out of. in California, didn't they? >> Yeah. No, it wasn't no weights. Just. push-ups. >> Push-ups. See? Pull-ups, push-ups, and dips. That's all it took. >> And they see you, they say, "Oh, no. No, we ain't going to mess with him.". >> Yeah. Yeah. You know,

>> you know, I got my homies and stuff, so. >> Right. >> I was always like, it was never like I. was messed with. But once I got bigger, you know, even the homie start messing. with me like, "Yeah, bro, you get it too. big.". >> Uh, Tory Lanes, he got stabbed. How did. he get stabbed if if he was he in G-pop? >> Um, so I'm assuming he was, but just on. a different yard to where. >> Okay. >> It's like 50% G-pop and 50% protective. custody. >> Okay. >> So those yards are a little bit more.

>> stranger, you know, cuz you don't know. what you're dealing with. At least you. know this dude's either a gangster or. >> over there it's like this dude could be. a gangster snitch. >> all in one feel or pedophile you know. like. >> so. if I had to guess what that situation. considered of just probably. >> but he a small dude is he like five big. >> he's not that big but at the same time. you know this the dudes that's not that. big in there they you know. >> they how you [ __ ]. >> yeah they [laughter]. like.

>> you'll run on the wrong one. >> yeah exactly Like I'm pretty sure the. dude he was into it with wasn't that big. either really. >> But if I had to guess, it was probably. just some egotistical thing going on, you know, >> and uh Joe has a way of you think people. got your back until something happens, you know, >> and then you realize you for yourself. >> So yeah, I'm pretty sure he probably. thought people had his back and he could. carry himself a certain type of way and. this person just, you know, tried it. >> Wow. Did you see that? I don't know if.

it's AI, but a a photo of you in prison. >> Oh my god. >> You did this lit. [laughter]. >> They be trying, Shannon. I I be doing. everything so so correctly that they got. to do [ __ ] like that just to just to. alter the mood. Just throw it off. >> Come on, man. You know that's AI, man. [laughter]. I seen that. I'm like, "Wow, that's. that's really okay.". >> Right. >> That's a good thing, though. It's like, "All right, y'all got to go that to them. lengths to try to debunk my feel. You.

can't debunk this [ __ ] man. They know. that. They know it when they see it.". >> Um, do you get to have your hair any kind of. way in prison? Do they make you cut your. hair? >> No, you got to have it any kind of way. A lot of people got dreads just cuz it's. like you can see the growth, >> right? >> But yeah, no, ain't no hair sty. >> But I mean I mean you got to wash it. You got to take care of it. That's why. people get dressed cuz you don't got to. wash it. Take care [laughter] of it. >> or cut or shave it all off. Huh.

>> Exactly. But they do got barbers or. people that be cutting, you know, hustling. $5 cut, $3 cut. >> I don't know if you could tr you. somebody cutting your hair. They got. >> Do they got straight razors in there? >> Couple people me up. No, they just got. the, you know, the little 99 cent razor. >> Oh, [ __ ] Okay. I was going to say that. straight razor boy. >> No. No. [laughter]. But yeah, I didn't let got let people. few people me up. Oh, they push the. edges back too far. >> Yeah, for sure. For sure. >> Before you went to prison, you doing. 225. Now you doing 275, right?

>> Yeah. I couldn't even do 225. Before I. went I was doing like probably like 205. >> 205. >> Yeah. >> Now you can do 275 for one. Two. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Probably two. It's pretty crazy. >> Yeah. You get about you get get another. one in there. You might get 315. >> Yeah. I know. That's pretty. That's. crazy to me. But I love it. I ain't going back, man. >> You ain't going back. You done. >> I'm a never going back. I ain't gonna. never be. >> I heard a lot of people say that now. >> You ain't heard this one said. I'm one.

and done. Shannon, >> what it done? That you you. >> that made you change that. What What was. it about prison to say I ain't coming. back here? >> Because guess what? You said it earlier. You a had to worry about no. responsibilities. You get two You get. two You get two hot meals, a cold meal, you get a shower. You ain't got to worry. about no rent. That's the perks to it. You know, there's cons to it and the. cons [laughter] outweigh the perks of to. this situation. But, um, no, I was just. sitting there and, you know, people.

acting funny. Just like, okay, I would. have did some time for you, you know? >> Yeah. >> I pro possibly would have overprotected. you and got put in this position. And. seeing you react like this, it's like, okay, it's not too many things that's. worth sitting here for. >> Yeah. >> So, let me chill. >> Mhm. >> [ __ ] So, how much you weigh right now? >> Right now, I'm like 210. >> 210? How much did you weigh when you. went in? >> 150. >> 150? >> Yeah. My last fight I was 152.

>> The food must have not been that bad. >> No, I was g salt and pepper. >> Gain 60 lbs. >> Little salt and pepper. I was I was. eating all that [ __ ] I wasn't tripping. I was asking for your food. You going to. eat [laughter] that? Let me get your. tray, bro. Let me I need it. How how. long did you go sit down? >> Uh two years. >> Two years. >> Yeah. >> That's enough for you, huh? >> Yeah. I was more than enough. I was the. longest, you know. >> So I was I was just enough for, you. know, for you to be like, "Okay, I could.

either do this or I can't.". >> Right. >> I can't do that. >> You hear the story how Gucci man's his. wife, I think it was his girlfriend at. the time, he gave her two million. Every. dime that he had cash, she flipped it. He came home. She had 6 million. >> Yeah. >> You gave your baby mama 90. >> Yeah. >> Nothing when I came back. >> Damn. >> Zero. She ain't flipping it. [snorts].

No flip. >> What she spend the money on? [sighs]. >> You know what's crazy? I don't even. know. I think she just got caught up. with her lifestyle. She tried to blame. it on rent and her car note and whatnot. and taking care of the kids, but she. didn't even take my instructions. I gave. her 90K and said, "Look, make this. last." So, what I did was I paid her. rent for 5 months and I gave her 40,000. >> So, I said, "Just make this last." Cuz. at the time, I had a 6-month sentence, >> right? >> A week later, she doing club hostings,

bookings, and stuff. So, she's making. money now, right? >> So, now you got this 90K on top of. >> 7500 to 10,000 a weekend. >> Mhm. So even after the 6 months it was gone. And I'm looking like, okay, you didn't. listen to me telling you to just chill. and make this last. You went out and. made money and you still ain't got no. money. Oh, so you was just taking. advantage. Thought this [ __ ] would last forever. >> So when you come home, you like you cut. off. >> Yeah. Hell yeah. I mean, as far as like.

companionship and futuristic plans is, no. I would never be in that position. with the same people. >> Right. Once somebody mess over you, you. done. You don't give them a second. chance. >> No, I do. But if I know that if I was in. prison right now, you wouldn't. >> you wouldn't do right by me. >> Yeah. I'm then I'm not going to give you. a chance cuz that just shows me that you. just use me. If. >> What do you learn? What have you learned.

about dating? You should date as many people as you. can so you can find out what you like, what you don't like, and then. >> But not at the same time. >> Yeah. Why not? >> Well, how you going to give somebody How. do you give somebody your your undivided. attention if you dating 10 women at the. same time? >> You don't. [ __ ] Never let them have. you, King. Never let them have you, Shannon. >> You ain't trying to get married. >> Yeah. I want to I want a female that can.

deal with it, though. No, you can't deal. with it right now. It's gonna It's way. worse stuff in this marriage that's. gonna go. Not even as far as women, just. as far as dealing with me. So, if you. can't deal with me, I don't got to be 10 women. If you can't. deal with another female just, you know, competing, I'm like a high school football coach, man. You feel me? [laughter]. Only try. >> You want the best player, you want the. best player to play, >> the best player going to start. [laughter]. >> And I'm not going to micromanage, you. know. But when you start showing up to. practice late.

>> and you start, you know, you start not. appreciating the team, >> you start complaining. You ain't getting. no play time. >> Next morning, come on, this playing. She. think this [ __ ] a game. Second string. [laughter]. And you notice that's when they start. acting like, "Oh, damn." You know, they. go start trying out for other teams and. whatnot. They always come back. >> Well, let me ask you this. How can you. be a better partner? uh. run a couple routes for him, you know, maybe get out there and run a few.

routes. I don't got to always coach. Think I should, you know, play with. them, >> you know. Um. like I said, I don't always be a coach. I can get out in the field with him, you. know, show them I'm play with you. I. ain't just on the sideline yelling at. you. >> Why? Why are you okay revealing women that. you used to date or deal with dating. other rappers or celebrities? Why you.

okay with that? Why you just can't let. that lie? Why you just can't keep that. between you and her? >> Cuz she can't keep it between me and. her. >> She didn't say nothing. She ain't posted. that she did all this. What you be. posting? What you be talking? Why you do that? >> She ain't keep it between me and her. Nine times out of 10, I already seen the. [ __ ] It's already out there. So they. already too close. And I'm only putting. it out there if if you are putting. something out there about me. So if you.

going to go in there lie and say I'm. this, I got a little dick, I'm gay, I'm. I'mma put the truth out about you and we. going to see whose reaction really, you. know, is reacting. Cuz you know people. when you tell the truth about people, they just. >> But you know, but you know, a lot of. times when. >> same like women when they get upset with. a guy, they say he gay or he got a. little small package. And when guys will. say she ain't no good in bed or yada. yada yada. I mean, they just trying to. say things to to to to get a reaction to. hurt you, >> right? But I'm not lying. I'mma tell the.

truth. Good lord. >> Cuz that's going to get a that's going. to hurt you and get a reaction. You. lying is only going to get a reaction. It's not going to hurt my feelings, >> right? >> Like I said, I'm a reactor. >> Do you get upset when your exes talk to. other rappers in the industry? >> No, not at all. >> So once you done, you done. >> I still. I can't be like this and be holding. court on no female. You feel me? I can't. just be out here just nailing [ __ ] and.

then soon as you get nailed I'm like I. don't want to nail you no more. That's, you know, that's a little. hypocritical. >> Oh my goodness. >> Right. I guess I. >> What about you? Have you introduced any. girls to the to the league? Introducing. to that lifestyle and then they they. went the next player. >> I don't not that I know of. I mean I'm. sure I'm sure there are women that I've. dated. >> Would you care? >> No. I'm once I'm done I'm done. But I. ain't going back. You want to nail him? >> No. No. No. No.

No. No. Why? >> Cuz I'm done. >> Because the next player nail them. >> No. I mean, we broke up for a reason. >> If we move If we We move on. We decided. to move on. Just go ahead on. Do your. thing. No. Cuz I don't I don't want no. >> pistol something there. >> Nah. You ain't never had no female that. just had your little heart, your little. number, you feel me? Had your little You. know, >> but I had to go back. Not necessarily go. back where you just had a little bit. more forgiveness in your heart. Okay,

that's fine. You LeBron, that's cool, baby. I ain't. >> No, I still love you, girl. >> Nah, cuz I I would be very disappointed. because LeBron is married and got. Savannah. So, I would feel some type of. way, right? >> But with that being said, no, I'm not. I'm not going back. You mess with you. mess I I don't care. I don't care who it. is. I don't He don't have it doesn't. have to be a celebrity or an entertainer. or an influencer or something like that. I just I just move on. What if I get. like that when I get old too? >> No. >> Are you married? >> But no, but I've always been I' I've.

always been like that. >> Yeah. >> Even when I was when I was your age, >> you move on, be with somebody else, I'm. I'm I'm cool. >> Did you have multiple women though? Were. you promiscuous? >> When I was young? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I got three kids. >> How many different? >> Three. [laughter]. >> Nah, you don't get no D. I ain't proud. of that. Hell no. I ain't proud of that. I mean, because if I could do it all. over again, I would have three from one. >> Yeah, me too. But you know, >> no you wouldn't. >> It don't work like that. >> You probably have You probably have five. from five. >> I mean, I Shannon, I'm three for two,

man. I'm doing better than you. >> You You do better than me. You know. better. You do better. You better. [laughter]. touch. >> No, but uh Croissant, what was what is it about her? Because. y'all have y'all little issues. Y'all go. back and forth, but for the longest. time, you just couldn't seem to get. y'all couldn't get each other out of. y'all system. [snorts]. >> Yeah. Um. I don't know. I feel like the beginning.

kind of um set us up for a certain type. of expectation. >> Mhm. >> And neither of us was that person that. we expected us to be. So, just became a. frustration thing. I want to say we. >> Why you got to put your relationships. out there in the public? You like why? Why you like? >> So I know what's going on, man. You know. it's if it's out in public, I ain't got. to worry about if she cheating. They. going to tell me. >> But a lot of times people throw stuff. out there just because they don't want.

to see you happy. >> Yeah. But I know what's real and what's. not. And get that little DM. Hey baby. over here, the little baby house right. now in the back room. You feel me? Thank you. >> Have that ever happened? >> Uh not necessarily like that, but yeah. Like, you know, the fans will put you up. on game about your girl. That'll let you. know her past, her present. >> But her past ain't got I mean, cuz look, we past ain't got nothing to do with. you. >> I want to know, though. I got a little. bit too much too much going on. You. know, I'm a little high value. I.

consider myself a high value man. >> You do does a woman have a right to know. your past? >> Yeah, I put it out there. >> She can know whatever she want to know. So, I. >> Why you want Why? >> I'm asking for what I want to know. >> Let me ask you a question. What is it. that you want to know? You want to know. the guys or the number of guys? The. names or the number? >> Um. >> or both? >> No, I don't care for the for the name or. the number. But um how many n how many. rappers have you slept with? What's. their names? So that way I.

>> Why [laughter] you need to know all that. >> for future preferences? >> Pi. >> No, just you don't know who going to. come out and say they so I rather you. let me know. >> As long as they ain't do it while you. got them. Why you care? Uh, I don't if. you tell me. >> No, they got to tell you. >> I just did Soulja Boy like that. I can't. do that. I just He didn't even know I. his. >> his girl. His young lady. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He didn't know. So when I told him he.

was, >> but that was before Soldier. >> It still hurt his feelings. I don't want to be that guy. Let me. know, baby. So that way when it even if. you know I I don't care. It's not going. to stop me from with you. >> But but you look at it in a different. light. You can't you're not going to. take her serious. >> No, I still take her serious. I don't. care. It's just from for my knowledge. So I. >> put your mind at ease. >> Just so I know like if there's going to. be a bump in the road, you know, let me.

know before it gets bumpy. Like if you. if you dealt with a female and she with. a another NFL player, >> you wouldn't want to know. just know. what you dealing with like. >> no. >> I don't see. >> I don't even ask I don't ask no. questions. >> you different then you deal you deal the. way I look at it you dealing with me now. >> am I going am I going am I going to have. problems if I did. >> you don't want a [ __ ] at the game he. targeting you and [ __ ] you like damn why. is this hitting me after the play every. day [laughter].

that's why. >> no the other way around if he target me. after the play. >> I'm saying you don't want to know them. you don't want to be up to knowledge. just based on it don't have to it's not. going to dictate whether you deal with. her or not. >> The only time the only time. >> you're a high value man you should. >> I do the only time I've ever asked if. I'm dealing with someone that has a. child. >> I need to know what type of what type of. guy that I'm going to be dealing with. >> Exactly. >> Because you know, hey, I understand his. best interest is the child and I.

understand that and everybody and I. don't I don't meet everybody's I don't. meet everybody's kids until it's an. extended period of time. Yeah. But I. just want, you know, because I need to. know what I'm dealing with. >> Right. That's how you look at it. I look. at on a different spectrum, you know, maybe because I'm younger. >> Yeah. >> But it's it's not to determine if I'm. with you or not. It's more or less to. determine who's going to come after me. for with you. >> Okay. >> Cuz I'm with it. I'm with you. I'm What? >> No, I ain't with it. I'mma leave. >> How you going to leave if you don't.

know? >> But I'm Hey, but that's that's the. thing. >> How do you know you're going to leave? If you. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I I. >> So you're a better not knowing type. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I mean two. different type of people. People that. want to know and people that don't. >> It going to cause a problem place. >> Yeah. >> It Yeah. It's going to cause a problem. cuz you first of all like you said you. you you're a known commodity and so they. always going to feel and let's just say. it's not somebody in the industry. It. might be someone that's not in the. industry when he's going to feel like oh. blueface think cuz he this or Shannon. Shaw think cuz he that he can yada yada.

yada. >> Yeah. I mean I know who in my lane. You. know, if it's a ball player, NFL player, I don't give a. >> But if he raps, >> let me know. >> Okay. I don't want. >> long as he long he can be a a hooper, he. can be catch the ball, he can do. baseball, whatever. As long as he ain't. in my profession. >> There you go. That's a better way to say. it. >> Okay. Okay. >> And it's not going to stop me from. [ __ ] with you. It's just going to. help me know what type of person I'm. dealing with. Okay. >> And what type of people you deal with. You. >> know, you need to learn your lady's. circles, man. type of even if it's her.

friends. >> You don't check. You check phones? >> No. >> Oh, you tripping, brother. >> No, dog. >> I don't check, baby. >> I don't. >> Come on. >> I ain't got no key. >> You got a key to your girl place? You. ever had a key to your girl place? >> Yeah. I never use it. But. >> I ain't never had it. >> But it's just. it's just a mentality thing, you know? You want a girl that's that's got the. right mentality, >> right? >> Cuz these girls don't got the right. mentality. They just. >> they mirror what you do. trying to suck. you dry.

>> Oh, I don't know. They ain't marrying. me. I ain't sucking nothing. [laughter]. They They doing what they do. >> Yeah. Did you Did you fight Cash's dad? >> But he hit me first. >> But that's an old man. You can't fight. people dead. >> If they hit me, I'm a reactor, Shannon. I don't. >> just Hey, that's old. Say, sir, come on. >> I said all of that. All of that. Literally, I didn't I had. no intentions of hitting him or fighting. him. >> Just walk away. It too much to walk away.

>> after somebody hit you in the face. >> That's old, man. It ain't hurt. >> That [ __ ] hurt. >> I think it hurt your pride. >> That too. [laughter]. [ __ ]. It can't hurt me, man. And think you. just going to I'm going to walk away. That's. >> But that's your That's your girl dad. >> He ain't my daddy. [ __ ]. >> He's your girl dad. How you how you how. is your girl going to look at you. knowing that you beat her dad up?

>> I'm her daddy now. That's how she better. look. >> Oh Lord have mercy. >> I'm daddy now. I whooped your dad ass. [snorts] Now I'm dad. [laughter]. >> Do you see the online drama that your. exes have? Some of your exes have. Do. you tell y'all need to cut? Y'all need. to squash that. You ever intervene? >> No, I don't know. That's That's on them, man. I don't micromanage. >> That ain't micromanaging. That's just.

like, hey, come on. Y'all don't need to. do that. >> It is micromanaging. Once I let people. can do what they do, that's that's how I. do it. You do you can do whatever you. want. You can go to [ __ ] Compton. I'm. not going to say nothing. >> So, you ain't play no role in anything, huh? >> Uh after me? No. While I was in jail? Nope. They still trying to blame me for [ __ ]. while I was in jail. I've been in. [snorts] jail two years. I shouldn't be. to blame for a thing.

Do you believe hurt people hurt people? Cuz I'm trying to figure out, you know, hey, maybe you need to talk to I'm the. wrong guy to talk to, but uh I'm asking. um. what happened? What woman women woman or. women. >> did something to to put you in this. frame of mind? >> Um, [ __ ] I don't know. Probably my mom. My. sister. starts.

>> your sister older than you. >> Starts with your family. Yeah. >> Know you see them. So you saw you saw a. lot of you saw your mom had a lot of the. different men early up and so you like. you thought that was. >> No, I just thought that women weren't, you know, as upstanding as you as these guys. think, >> right? >> So you should definitely be in it for. what you in it for. And cuz that's. you're not going to get hurt like that. You know, I'm with you cuz I want to. [ __ ] with you. There's nothing you could. do to me. >> type thing. If I'm with you cuz I think.

I'm the only person you with, then I'm. kind of sacrificing myself. for the manipulation. You know, psychology gave me. >> So, you okay being with someone knowing. that they're potentially seeing someone. else other than you? >> Yeah. If I'm doing it, how can I not be. okay with it? >> I don't know how to be like that, Shannon. I don't know how to have 10.

different women and be tell one of these. women that she can't have whoever. whoever you know that doesn't. necessarily have to be the one I'm. choosing. I'm going say I'm going to. choose the best the best player going to. play. [laughter]. >> Do your mom know you feel this way that. she might have played a role in how you. are as a man? >> Of course. >> you talk to her about it. I. >> tell her all the time. >> What did she say? >> [sighs]. >> I'm not a hoe. I wasn't doing this. I.

wasn't doing that. She got three kids. and three baby dads. How you feel about that? [laughter]. Mistakes happen. [laughter]. >> You feel me? Look, she's y'all in the. same boat. But for a man, it's different. than for a woman. >> Yeah. Which society says, yeah, women. are judged judged at a different level. and different standard. I don't think. that's the case now because women women. have tried to take some of that power. say I can do just as what a man can do.

>> Yeah. And and that's the me too effect. right now. He could do it. I could do it. too. >> You want to heal. >> You ever going to be in a situation? Can. you ever be in a situation where it's. just you and your partner? >> Yeah. If I have a partner that's. [sighs]. >> So I feel like it takes a partner to. make you better. You know, it takes them. dealing with some [ __ ] and still being a. good example for you to, you know, I.

don't think men meet women. and don't cheat on them if you know like. it takes her to like. >> deal with you cheating and then you. realize you really hurting her feelings. and she's being. >> enduring it and taking it like a real. woman for you to stop. >> Mhm. >> What do you think? Everybody's got somebody. >> Everybody got somebody. >> Yeah. Like prior. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Everybody's got a number. >> Yeah. Yeah. Everybody has somebody. It's.

just to what extent. My grandfather used. to say that. He He was a firm believer. Everybody has somebody. It's just to. what extent? Married, uh fiance, uh you. know, [clears throat] hookups, naked, whatever the case may be. Everybody has. somebody. It's just to what extent. >> Exactly. So, it takes a strong. individual to get you off of those. people. Takes them to deal with it, you. know? >> Right. If they get even, >> okay, >> you can't get mad. >> Yeah. Like can't get mad, but they they. not dealing with it. You feel me? Right.

>> It's not going to stop you. >> If I cheat on you and you cheat back, we. even. >> She got a lick back. >> We even now you can't be mad. I can't be. mad. So now I'm about to GO SOMEBODY. ELSE. >> N YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP BUT YOU TRY TO. STAY ONE UP. >> NO, NO, NO. It's not that I'm staying. one up. It's just you're not you're not. feminizing me. It takes a woman to like get your. feelings, you know? >> Uhhuh. >> Women W women win the feeling game. >> They don't win the. >> me too game. >> But here's the thing. >> If a woman can't penetrate your.

feelings, she don't really mean nothing. to you. >> Well, cuz you're not in you're not. investing anything into that woman. So. therefore, you don't you're not going to. invest because you don't want to get. hurt. >> I've invested all of my women. >> No, you ain't investing nothing. You. ain't investing over time where you can. start stop by and drop the package off. and move on. That's. >> No, I didn't really built these women. up, man. like. >> what's your most what's your most. valuable possession? >> Probably my dick. I ain't going to lie, man. [laughter].

That's the only thing I can hold every. night. >> I was feel. >> I was hoping I was hoping you say the. restaurant. >> It's the only thing you can hold every. night. When that restaurant gone, Shannon, I still got my dick. >> THE RESTAURANT GOING TO BE GONE. You say. it's doing good. What? I'm saying if I. lose it all tonight, I still got my. dick. >> Oh, Lord have mercy. >> That's real [ __ ]. >> That's not valuable, Shannon. >> Yeah, I behave to you. >> What's your most valuable possession?

>> My family. >> You don't really possess that though. >> That's. >> I don't I don't I don't I don't really. have anything like like Super Bowl rings. and things like that. I don't really. value it. was great. That's an. accomplishment and I'm very proud of. what I was able to accomplish. But I. don't really look at that. I mean, the. thing that means the most to me, I guess. I should have asked what means the most. to you. >> Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. >> Cuz that would hurt me the most if I. were to lose. >> as a family. I don't care about no Super.

Bowl rings or no jersey. No. All. >> I think if you lost your dick, it would. hurt a little bit more. >> Oh, Lord have mercy. I'm. >> just saying, brother. Hear what I'm. saying. >> If you was walking around here with no. dick, [laughter]. >> would you want to live? I'm going I'm. feel I'mma feel some kind of way, but I. ain't trying to leave here. >> You could live with everything. but your dick. >> I can live without that, too. >> No, you can't. >> You think? Hold on. So, if if if if it.

went away, you don't want to live? >> No. >> Well, [ __ ]. >> Hell no. Anybody else feel like that? >> Nah, you by yourself. Oh y know, hey, >> I'm I'mma go get breakfast every. morning. >> Nobody got to know. But I ain't I ain't. going to offer myself because I ain't. got no package. >> No, I ain't going to offer myself. But. I'm saying I ain't going to be I ain't. going to be happy. >> That's okay. I mean, >> we ain't come. >> You got you got to you got to work with. other things. >> We ain't come all this way to not be.

happy, Shannon. We put in all this. >> You got to work You got to work with. other things. >> All them practices, man. We ain't. >> just work with other things. You got. hands, you know, work with other things. Keep yourself happy. Man, I can't I can't believe you, bro. >> I can't believe you. [laughter]. I'm telling you, you walking around here. with no dick. >> and be fine with it. >> I didn't tell you that. >> That's crazy. >> I'm sure there are people in the world. that you know. But Well, let me ask you. a question. What if you had one but it. didn't work?

>> Is that because I used it up or I'm. older? >> It doesn't matter. It doesn't work. It don't matter if the car got 700,000. miles on it. It just won't crank. anymore. Or you got a lemon. It don't. matter. We going We going to keep We going to We. going to keep it in the shop, man. We. going to keep We going to stay under the. hood. We going to keep Baby [laughter]. just keep sucking, baby. I don't know. what's going on. This [ __ ] going. to work one day. [laughter] I ain't. going to give up, though. I ain't going.

to give up on my dick. Shannon, >> I see. >> my dick ain't never gave up on me. Why did you make your page private when. you got out of prison? >> Um, I don't know. I kind of wanted to be. private. >> HOW YOU PRIVATE? YOU STAY OUT ALL THE. TIME. EVERYBODY SEE YOUR ASS. >> I know. That's why I took it off. >> I thought about it and I was like, damn. You know, people can't tag you and [ __ ]. put you on their story and whatnot. >> So, I was like, uh, it probably wouldn't. be as beneficial as I thought.

>> What have you learned about fame? I learned that um. got to got to know how to manage it, you. know. You got to learn how to um. when you log out those apps, log out of. that, you know, log out of that that. that state of mind. When you go home, you're not famous, you know. >> Is fame addictive?

>> Yeah, probably. Mhm. I notice a lot of. people like when they get a little buzz, a little moment, they like harp on it. So cloud's definitely addicting. It's a. hell of a drug. >> What would you do if you weren't famous? If you walked out of here today and for. the next for the rest of your life, nobody knew who you were. You just some. guy walking down the street. How would. you feel? >> If I had money, I'll be happy. But if I. was broke, I wouldn't be happy. Like if. I had the money without the fame, that.

>> Yeah. You take the fortune, >> that much be a better life. >> Mhm. >> For sure. >> You said you're never going back to. prison again. How do you want to be. remembered when it's all said and done. 50, 60 years from now? >> How do you want people to remember. Blueface? >> Just real, you know? I admire him just. being real. Just keeping it real. Not. necessarily like uh overly, you know,

>> just enough to where it's like, all. right, he ain't lying. If he said it, it. happened. >> Yeah. I I I believe I I believe I. believe everything you said. >> That's how I would go out. And if Blue. Face said that [ __ ] it happened. >> I saw your uh the viral video of you. telling DDG uh giving him advice about. kids. >> Oh, yeah. cuz he had a similar situation with his. child's mother, you know, going back and.

forth. Hopefully everything got resolved. with that. >> But what what what were you hoping to. accomplish? What were you trying to. accomplish in that situation? >> What? Telling them? >> Yeah. >> Um just being honest with them, you. know, the truth. Like I said, uh if if. anybody's [clears throat] living the. truth and they can guide the next person. >> Mhm. >> that's a great thing, you know, whether. it's good or bad. Like if you can Hey, look, man. I know you think it's going. to be like this, but this is my. experience and you know, experience is.

the best teacher. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> So, >> if you could tell somebody your. experience and they still go through. with it and I told. >> No, it has to be a lesson learned. through that experience. >> Yeah. >> Because action without consequences, no. lesson can be learned. No matter the. experience, if there's not a lesson. learned. >> Yeah, I agree. I learned all my lessons. [laughter] I ain't no dummy, man. As. soon as I peep it, I learned it. Right? >> You know, I have a a habit of breaking. things down a little too too much. >> to where I want to know why you do the.

things you do. >> What makes you do it? Why' you. >> what did he say? >> Why you care? >> Cuz I like to know what made you what. made you what got you, you know? Not. necessarily to be mad about it, just to. know like, okay, >> you be asking. I bet you wouldn't be. saying he be asking he be asking some. weird ass questions. >> I like to study people. How many rings. you got? >> Three. That's nice. What year? >> Uh, we went back to back 97 98 and then. I went to the Raiders and then we won.

2000. >> That's how long it's been. >> Mhm. >> I've been retired coming on 20 over 20. years. Two decades. >> Martin Luther King was at your game. [laughter]. >> Martin Luther King. >> actually died a couple of months before. He was assassinated a couple of months. before I was born. >> Fre Douglas was at the game. [laughter]. Who you was playing with back then? You. had [screaming] another leather helmet. on, >> man. I just can't believe you Blueface. I mean, we had a good interview and this. man out to rip. I don't know why. >> I get you, man. You've been keeping it a.

little too too PE for the interview, man. >> Why? Women, three women, four women, >> all of this great. things instilled in you. Why you ain't. married? >> Why I'm not married? One woman man. >> You know what? Let me tell you why. Because when I was playing, football was. the most important thing. And I was and. I was never because I was never going to. I could never give her what I gave. football. >> And it's hard. And so I started in. television and I worked and worked and.

worked. And I can never give somebody. the attention, the focus, the love that. I gave TV because t I wasn't good at TV. at first. I had to get good and I had to. work and work and work and work and work. and and that's that's been my that's. been my biggest problem because what I. worked at to be good at football to what. I worked at to be good at media I never. put that kind of same time into a woman. >> a picket fence with the kids and a and a. dation somewhere. >> you still have that.

>> when [snorts]. >> I'm going be married I I give myself you. know what. >> you looking for somebody to to to take. change your diapers. >> no I don't need no I don't need no. hospice wife. >> that's what I'm [laughter]. You know, you giving all the fun years. away to to nothing. >> I I have given a lot of year cuz I don't. take vacations. >> Come on. >> I don't do I don't do a whole lot. Yeah. >> Yeah. You. >> I'mma change. I'm going change. Come on. >> 26. 26. >> We change together.

>> Blue face. >> We going to change together. >> Hey, I'm I'm I'm going somewhere. I'm. going on vacation. I'm going to an. island. Ain't nobody going to know. It. ain't going to be on the internet, >> right? You going to have a lady with. you? [snorts] Yeah. You think I'm going. to a damn island by myself? The. >> way you talking ain't no damn cast away. >> I don't know. I don't know who want to. be, you know, with a 57 year old man on. a few. >> But I got one. >> Why you ASKING ME ALL THESE QUESTIONS? I You asked me 100 questions. Baby.

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