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And I needed you to know why I came by. Yeah, I'll need you to tell us why. People know I don't go everywhere. I'm. not interested in talking to people. unless it's like a Larry King or. somebody of an amazing ilk that I would. actually want to go talk to in real. life. Okay. Um. I don't do it so I can sell product and. then I got things to sell, so let me. come talk. Um you have a great. product here and as a fan base we love.
the attention that you spend on the. guest. We we love how much work you've. done, how well you know them, how. prepared you are. The same things that. we liked about you in football, you. brought that on over to here and that's. uh why it resonates. And the reason I. had to come is because you've made a. safe place for the truth to be told. You. know what I mean? Thank you. I appreciate it. And I have watched all of these lowbrow. comedians come here and disrespect you.
in your face and tell you straight-up. lies. I'm talking about things that have. never been heard in all of black. Hollywood. They feel comfortable sitting. here and lying to you about it. You. going to set the record straight? Are you kidding me? You let Ricky Smiley. sit here and you said out that mouth, "You stole Friday After Next, the one I. was in.". I WISH ALL all of America fumbled the. bit when that happened. And then he said.
some stuff that we haven't heard in 100. years in Hollywood. You ain't say. nothing. This man told you he had Cat. Williams' role. He was going to be Money. Mike. What? And Cat Williams was going to be. was going to be the Santa Claus. Now, let's three quick points. Three quick ones. You mean in Hollywood. they cast a 5'5" black Santa Claus that. weighed 145 lb? That's your story? Your. story is the Ricky Smiley that couldn't. even do curse words because he had a.
Christian fan base. He was going to play. the pimp? Why you didn't ask him why has he played. a woman in more movies than he's played. a man? Well, I didn't know he. He shouldn't be able You wouldn't let a. athlete that been on steroids talk about. one of the greats. Ricky Smiley can't act cuz Ricky Smiley. can't act. He told you the story about. when the movie came out. Where did he. say he watched it? At home. He wasn't.
He's not at the premiere. You're telling. this man you stole that also he could. get his name in the same sentence with a. great one. It is sad. He was just that. bitter when we were shooting it. He told. everybody, "It should have been my. role." Everybody on the scene. Why do. you think no cast member has ever said. anything? He couldn't have played that role like. you. I thought he he was going. Sir, no one Why no. He was with KD? He beat up Terry Crews? Why nobody know.
this story? You talking about in. Hollywood they switched off roles. You. take this and he What? So that's. Ricky Ricky Smiley knows this and I. don't know why he would lose a child and. come on the air and start lying. That's. why people believe in rituals right. there. It's because Well, why would he. lie? I don't know why liars lie, but I. can tell you this. We auditioned in Los. Angeles. Yes. I was audition number 201. 200 black comedians auditioned for the.
role of Money Mike with me. You're. saying all 201 of us was auditioning and. you had already had the role and had. already shot the role in 4 days? The truth of the matter is the Money. Mike in the original script got raped in. the bathroom and that's what Ricky. Smiley was okay with. Cat Williams had to take the risk in. front of the studios and the cast and. the powers that be in his very first.
movie and say respectfully, humbly, guys, if we talking about. anything else, I have no credibility and. I have no pull. But we talking about comedy Right. where I have all the credibility and all. the pull. The problem with Friday After Next is. we're trying to make a classic comedy. and this comedy involves a rape and rape. is never funny, no matter who it happens. to or what the circumstances are. If you.
would allow me. to allow us to do this movie without a. black man getting raped in it, I promise. you that it will be twice as funny. as it would be with him getting raped. So, considering that's the real story, why would you bring up that story? 35 members of the cast and crew have. never brought up that Ricky Smiley was. going to play Money Mike. No one ever.
saw me put on a Santa Claus suit. We got. a wardrobe department. They made a Santa. Claus suit for me. Why that wasn't in. the bloopers? Why And And here's the. other thing. Everything that Money Mike. said Cat Williams wrote. So, what Ricky. Smiley say on his? You can't say my lines, I wrote them. That's how I already know that I'm going. to be funnier than you. What he told. everybody was, "Cat Williams. Don't nobody know who he is? I'm on the.
radio. I'm with Steve and Seth. Everybody know me." That's what he told. everybody that would listen to on the. set. That's the truth of the matter. He. was so egregious, not now, then. He was. so egregious that and Hollywood has. never heard this in 100 years. He was so. egregious, I put in my contract that I. won't work with Ricky Smiley again. unless he's in a dress. Now, what was. Ricky Smiley's next movie? Was it First. Sunday? Did he wear a dress in it? You bet he.
did. It's in my contract. Why would you put that in your What is. in your contract, Cat? That's where he's the unbelievable. actor. Him and Tyler Perry can't play a man to. save their life. They play good women and I believe that. the best actor should be in the best. role. So, that's why because when we released. that clip and he said that you responded. because he said he was supposed to play. Money Mike and you were supposed to play. play Santa Claus.
Now, my lie. So. that he knows is a lie. So, why would he. say it? Cuz he's a liar. Nobody knows. why liars lie and that's why I had to. come on the program. Cedric did the same. thing. Cedric told you when you asked. him, "Did you steal Cat Williams' joke?". Yeah. He said, "It don't line up." How. it don't line up that I did it on TV in. 2018, you came to see me at the Comedy. Store do it in 2019 and then did it on. the Kings of Comedy. Like, what doesn't. line up? I This is a televised joke that.
Mark Curry helped me punch up and get to. the level that it was. The same Steve. that went to go watch Mark Curry do his. whole sitcom and then stole everything. Mark Curry had. Now, Steve got a sitcom. where he the principal and he wear a. suit and he And then he gets this. high-top fade making all black men think. he got the best lineup in the business. and it's a man unit. Then you asked, "Why you not a movie. star?" I didn't.
want to be a movie star. That's the same. negro that hated on Bernie with this. same thing. I didn't want to be a movie star. No, you couldn't be a movie star. There are. 30,000 new scripts in Hollywood every. year. Not one of them asked for a. country bumpkin black dude that can't. talk good or became it and look like Mr. Potato Head. There ain't none. You would. have to have a range. I played a lot of characters, 60 movie. roles. I'm not playing Cat Williams in. there.
I don't know I don't know, Cat. We might. not let you drink anymore. The way you. you I mean, we ain't even got. I'm not feel bad at all. I've had a sip, less than you. The truth don't need motivation. I'm. just saying I can't let these dudes lie. Cedric sitting here telling you why he. ain't a movie star. He over here looking. like a walrus. You didn't say nothing. He can't even get his arms off his. stomach sitting over here. "Why I'm not. a movie star?". Cat Cat. It's a situation. He never wrote anything. Remember when.
Cedric the Entertainer starts, he's. supposed to be singing, dancing, and. telling jokes. That's why he's called. the Entertainer. Right. We found out he can't sing, can't. dance, and doesn't write jokes. He did four comedy specials. They're so. bad, Shannon, they're not available on. Netflix or Tubi. Can I say that again. for the audience? They're so bad that. they're not available on Netflix or. Tubi. You don't think Seth is a good a. good comedian? The world doesn't think. that, sir. I have 12 comedy specials. He.
has four specials that are not available. on Netflix or Tubi. It seems to me, Cat, that you had a lot. to get off your chest. No. No. You wanted to set the record straight. Winners are not allowed to allow losers. to rewrite history. I don't say any of. these things if my name is not breached. by these people on your platform. They If you give the a liar a platform. to lie, then I I'm not being messy by.
saying, "Hold on. That never happened. It's untrue and there are hundreds of. witnesses for each thing I'm saying.". So, let me ask you this. What is your relationship with Steve. Harvey, Ricky Smiley, and Cedric the. Entertainer as you sit here currently? They. For 30 years they're a group. These. aren't three random guys. The way that. Ricky Smiley kept appearing at all of my.
auditions is because of Steven said he. would tell anybody that listen. They got. a gang on that side. They know what it. is. They know who the gang is. Why. Earthquake not in movies? Cuz he's. illiterate. He can't read and they found. that out when they gave him a show and. put the cards in front of him. Like all. of these dudes are co-entwined and they. share secrets and this is the age of. truth and and and the truth doesn't need. to be scared of the fact that people.
tell lies. Cats on drugs. Where are the stories? Why is there no. story of anybody who ever sold a drug to. me, did a drug with me, was around me. when I was inebriated? I got five. daughters. I got five sons. Why would we. tell these ridiculous stories? Because. it's competition. You you feel like well. why comedies comedy guys can't just get. along? Yes. What what why why didn't you. get along with the other teams you were. competing against? If you're a Denver.
Bronco, why you don't get along with the. Cowboys? Something wrong with you? But I. don't disagree I don't dislike all the. Cowboys. Cat damn, you like dislike. Okay, what comedians do you like? Did you play against the team? Yes. I've. taken 46 comedians with me on the road. 46. Okay. I'm not the comedian you can give that. to. I only put on comedians that are. funnier than me. Anybody that ever told you differently. was a fat Faison liar.
There's nobody like me in the business. because. straight. Faison said that. getting a Netflix special is easy. I. have 12 specials. Guess how many Faison. got? Zero. So he can't be. he allowed to have conversations about. real stand-up people? We do not let. people who are on the juice discuss real. athletes. That's all. As a journalist, that's all. That's all I'm saying. I.
don't have harbor any resentment to any. of these entities because I can't be. jealous. I've never seen them have. anything that I ever wanted. If you sign up for their program, you. get a light-skinned. weird-faced wife that never do an. interview in public. them. Listen, in 20 years won't do an. interview. Nobody's ever talked to her. and they she's never been interviewed. anywhere. And now, understand, I'm not.
talking about one person. What I just. told you applies to seven people. How they all end up with that? That's. part of what you get. I came in this business saying I was. going to expose. When I talked about. Michael Jackson, when I talked about R. Kelly, they canceled me for these things. because why would you talk about another. black dude? Race is not where the line. is drawn. It's God's side and the other. side. And we don't care nothing about the.
other side. Period. Period. All of these. uh big big deviants is all catching hell. in 2024. It's up for all of them. It. don't matter if you Diddy or whoever you. is. T.G. Jackson, any of them. The every. all lies will be exposed. That's all. And and and and anyone who takes that. the wrong way, know why they take it the. wrong way. The truth is the light. I didn't have no more of these. Amen. Amen. Gee.
Uh I kind of getting on here. All right. After that, I don't really kind of know. where to go. Let me one more time. Ooh. Ooh. Right. We good now? Because the people want to. know why would he get blackballed? Yeah. I was going to. Because because in 30 years I've done. nothing but collect. information, knowledge, and your secrets.
So if you and a man was in a corner. doing something you wasn't supposed to. be doing, You would tell it. No, somebody come to. tell me. Okay. I gather that. I value. that. I'll pay for that. Come, tell me. I know so many things I shouldn't know. and they all know it. They all know it. Why? Because you don't make me the. villain. Not the guy that raises black. children and ain't never done a hard. drug in his life and don't have no. stories of doing nobody dirty.
And they'll just go out and they'll lie. The the industry doesn't mess with Cat. cuz he didn't show up for the studio. No. studios have ever said that. Look at my. IMDb. It will show you that no studio. has ever lost money with me on the. script. How? That's why I'm saying that's why I can't. let Ricky Smiley say he was supposed to. play Money Mike because I wrote the. words for Money Mike. I designed the. hair for Money Mike. I collaborated with. the wardrobe department and made outfits. to make sure that no one in America.
would be wearing what Money Mike was. wearing. I told him to go get the. Prowler. I then told him to paint it. purple. I told him don't have a actor at. playing a pimp. We could get an actual. pimp, Archbishop Magic Don Juan, to. play. Like I I did far too much work for. somebody to come years later and try to. tag along just for their own. self-aggrandizement. Why didn't Cube set the record straight? Terry Crews could have set the record. straight. Mike Epps could have set the.
record straight. Why none of them set. the record straight? That's what you were supposed to ask him. when he told you those lies that no. one's ever heard. Right, but he's telling you something no. one's ever heard of. Nobody has ever. heard oh Matt Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. was in a movie and somebody said y'all. should switch roles. Like this is a. business. the thing, Cat. Normally when people. will give you information, I'm thinking. I'm hearing it for the first time and. they're giving information no one else. knows or have ever heard. So I'm taking. them at face value.
These are like This is like Steve Harvey. telling people he used to be homeless. That's my story. That's not his story. Steve Harvey wasn't never homeless. When. he Mark Curry was touring with him 25. years ago, he was making $3,000 a show. in cash and doing five shows a week. They just tell the stories. This My. Thanks to my wife I'm where I am. You. said that about the first wife. You. forget that? You told us it was her. Then you went and married somebody else. that think like a man. Like what are you.
talking about? They just they think they. can rewrite history. The. uh Guy Torry did a beautiful special. about the Comedy Store and Fat Tuesday. where he said that Steve and Cedric and. Kevin Hart and Tiffany Haddish came. through there and made. all lies. Steve and Cedric never. performed at the Comedy Store at all. Tiffany was only seen at the Laugh. Factory. In 15 years in Hollywood, no. one in Hollywood has a memory of going. to a sold-out Kevin Hart show, there.
being a line for him ever getting a. standing ovation at any comedy club. He. already had his deals when he got here. Have we heard of a comedian that came to. LA and in his first year in LA he had. his own sitcom on network television and. had his own movie called Soul Plane that. he was leading. No, we've never heard of. that before that person or since that. person. What do you think a plant is? Maybe people don't understand the. definitions of these words.
He just did his documentary with Chris. Rock where he shows you that his whole. upbringing in comedy was on the East. Coast. Yeah, it was. So how simultaneously. was he here in Los Angeles doing the. same thing? It didn't happen. It didn't happen and I I I hate to seem. like a petty individual for picking. apart lies, but Jessy Smollett going to. keep lying until you say we don't.
believe you. Like it's important. in the checks and balances of the. universe that liars not get to make. complete narratives for themselves. These are some powerful people What do. you mean again? These people are not powerful. Satan. can't create anything. That includes blessings for his people. That's why Do you know what the number. one job of somebody that sold their soul. in Hollywood is? What? It's to act like. it didn't happen.
They all do the same job. Why do you think Gary Owen can't cross. over and he already white and been in. comedy for 25 years? If what I say ain't the case. It's a cabal. It's a it's a consortium. They they rock with who they rock with. and they don't with who they don't. But. I'm not scared of being the competition. any more than you were when you lined up. across from a superior team. Yeah, on.
paper they're a better team. They have. all the assets and resources that we. don't. But let us get on the line, boy. boy, and see if that factors in. I I. guarantee you it won't. Wow. Because Shannon Sharpe got to be a. different person than that other person. Absolutely. And he always was. That doesn't change. when I change teams. That remains the. same. That's how a legacy is built. So. all of these shortcut takers, I I. I was They canceled me for talking about.
Harvey Weinstein before the thing came. out, but he offered to suck my penis in. front of all my people at my agency. What am I supposed to do? He did all of that. I'm thinking I'm the. only black person on the script. I get. there, there's three other black guys on. there. Woo. Huh. So you wonder what they did to get on. there. I told him no. WHAT Y'ALL DO? AND THIS IS why when I walk in a room. heads go down. Behind my back I'm nothing. I'm just a.
regular old comedian that's bitter and. jealous. But in my face, no, no, no. The king has walked in and they have to. respect it only because I've not taken. the shortcuts. I've not been funded. They pay you to not talk about things. they don't want you to talk about. They tell you that themselves. I can't. do that cuz I Steve told you that he. stopped doing stand-up because he had. seven TV shows. The only problem is when. he stopped stand-up he didn't have those.
seven TV shows. He stopped stand-up. because he got in a comedy battle called. the championship of stand-up comedy with. one Katt Williams in Detroit in front of. 10,000 people and lost because Katt. Williams said he was actually bald and. that was a wig. And I went in and that's. why he couldn't do stand-up anymore. Imagine him coming to tell you another. story where he got so big and it was. Bernie and them's fault cuz they wanted. to be movie stars.
What? You called Ocean's 11 to get that. nigger's part. What you mean you didn't want to be a. movie star? So on the behalf of Bernie. I would have to say what I have to say. Have you ever been on Have you ever been. on tour with any of these guys? The guy. Every guy I mentioned to you is not. funny out there in real life. So no.
Faizon's never done his own tour in 30. years. Steve Harvey don't do stand-up no. more. Cedric doesn't write. I'm sorry. He doesn't write. Ricky Smiley has been playing the same. old black woman forever. Like you can't. get a young fan base with that. Like you got to be doing karaoke around. the country to make that work. Right. And he is. But I'm a stand-up comedian. This is my. 19th 100-city tour.
I'm not going to have a conversation. with these lazy bums that will take a. shortcut at any point. Yes, it's easier. for you to juice than to get in the gym. But you don't get to bring that body in. here talking crazy. Talk about how good you look. What? No. No, there's too many comics out. there that are putting their life on the. line to tell these jokes, man. Okay. Let's get to your upbringing. We're. going to circle back and we'll get Huh?
to protect him real quick cuz you had. said for the Kings of Comedy it was in. 2018, 2019, but did you mean 1999? Cuz it came out in 2000. So I just want. to make. No, I didn't No, no, no. So what I meant. to say was remember he said. I couldn't do stand-up anymore. I had. seven TV shows. I said he didn't have. any of those TV shows at the time. you talking about you talking about. Cedric. Joke stealer from Cedric. Yeah, Cedric. Okay. Okay. You had said 2018, 2019, but it.
came out in 2000. So I just want to make. sure Okay. No, no, no, no. No. What comes out in 2000? The The original. Kings of Comedy. Right. My. I'm on BET's ComicView and they're using. this as the commercial in 1998. That's. why I'm saying Yeah, so if I Yeah, so if. I said the date is wrong Yeah, so Let's. go ahead and clear that up. Okay. You said Yeah. I had Cedric on here and I asked him. about the joke stealing and he said the. timeline doesn't add up. Correct. To your to to that point you.
say. Right. So he thought that I was just a. no-name comedian and that he could take. this joke and nobody would know. Right. The issue was that I had already done. this particular joke. on BET's ComicView twice. Right. It had. done so well on BET's ComicView that. they had made it part of the commercial. So part of the commercial of make sure. you tune in to BET was you seeing me. doing this joke. And this joke is one of.
those jokes in comedy where you set it. up and it takes a little longer to set. it up. Takes about 3 minutes. But then. you're just hitting them with jokes. after that cuz you don't have to set it. up. Right. Uh Mark Curry had already helped. me work on this joke because I thought. it was good cuz I was getting a standing. ovation on it. He had me go back in the. lab to help me craft it to be an even. more powerful joke. So this is not just. a random joke. This is my very best joke. and it's my last joke and it's my. closing joke.
Okay. 1998. I'm doing this joke. It's on ComicView. Cedric comes to the comedy store. He. watches me in the audience. He comes. backstage. He tells me what a great job. I did and how much he loves the joke. Two years later he's doing that as his. last joke on the Kings of Comedy. And. he's doing it verbatim. He's just. changed my car into a spaceship.
Him and Steve had already apologized for. me so I gave him a pass for a decade. Why would you sit here and be like I. talked to I saw Katt 30 times. And Katt didn't do As I stand before you. Shannon. I would have bust Cedric's stomach. There was nothing that would have kept. me from one of these in in that patch. right there. Like are you kidding me?
Why would you downplay me like that? Why. did I give you a pass if you were just. going to lie? And so that's what I'm. saying. Like they're all a group. Cedric, Steve, Ricky, they've been a. group. Everybody knows that. They've. been aligned and and there are these. alliances in comedy and if you stand. against them then they sometimes have a. problem, but we don't let that change. the content because that's all you know. me for is that I'm quite likely to tell. the whole truth and nothing but the.
truth so help me God. Like all my. enemies all look the same in the eyes. whether it's Faizon, Wanda, Aries. Spears, they all look like. Man, what you got against Wanda Sykes? You think I don't remember that Sir. Wanda Sykes and Wanda Smith are two. separate people. I mean Wanda Smith. Wanda Smith. And I. had only said one name, sir. Wanda Sy-. Wan- Wanda Sykes. I'm correct. amazing. I love Wanda. And I agree. I. love Wanda. That's my girl. My girl. I remember on the radio you went on the.
radio interview. If I'm not mistaken. that's in Atlanta. Right. And you came. on there with seemingly good intentions. and she attacked you. It wasn't just that part. It was the. fact that before I go in there she has a. conversation about okay now. I just want to talk to you because you. just won an Emmy for the city of Atlanta. and this is in Atlanta and they just. want to hear about the Emmy and hear. from you and to thank you for what you. did putting the city on. And we won't. talk about your kids. We won't talk.
about jail, no cases, we ain't going to. talk about none of that. Right. And immediately gets in there and. goes the opposite way. You can't flip up. on me because you're an inferior. comedian. I'm going to destroy you and. I'm never going to call you out of your. name. I'm never going to say anything. disrespectful to people that look like. you. I'm It's a very thin line. I got a. call. But this lady is trying to. embarrass me in front of a largely. homosexual fan base. That's why she got.
canceled. Gay people don't take it kindly that you. would as a derogatory. call me gay. Gay people don't feel like. it's derogatory. So why are you trying. to shame me with something in a. community I don't even belong in? There's no gay people saying I belong. over there. I've been over there. You. did a number on. have no hatred of over there and how. dare you? You did a number on her. though. Hey. You did a number on her. That that's legendary. No, you either.
believe in karma or you don't. Because I didn't even know any of the. stuff that she had done to my fellow. comedians until afterwards. I just know. she that it was a setup. And And. remember. they. they tried to kill me this same. weekend. Not in jokes. With a real gun in my real face on real. camera. Understand I'm losing my life. for participating. in something that goes along with my.
job. Like. it's two comedians. What do you mean? And And the world was okay with it. because it was me. Had that happened to anyone else, the. world went crazy when Will Smith smacked. Chris. This is a person pulling a whole. gun on a comedian in the. confines of their job. This is really a. weird situation. when they hate you that bad. Yeah. Yeah. You felt she hated you in that moment.
because you you mentioned that she said. it was going to be very professional. All you won an Emmy, congratulations, you putting the city on, you own for the. city, yada yada yada. And now what Did. she mention anything about the Emmy on. camera? I believe you saw the video and you know. that none of that took place. See, the. issue. The issue is that um. all the comedians have to come do these. radio stations because you have to sell. your tickets. And so that means you have.
to go to the radio station. Yes. I don't go to the radio station and I. don't make posts to sell tickets. I just. don't. So you've not seen me. I'm I. haven't I'm not here in some subservient. position where somebody sent me over. I'm. You here out of the kindness of your. heart. You are. No, no, I'm saying No, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yes. situations, yeah, like that's right. Yeah, and this person knew I wasn't. there for that or.
Yeah, it's But how hard because you have. to understand, she is a female. and so you have to be careful, you have. to handle her with kid gloves. Sir, sir. You want to go ahead and take that out? You don't want to be against equality, do you? No, no. What you just said was. very unequal, sir. But but you. maybe you've had enough of this. Because I think I just heard you say. But Kat, you that women are not equal.
and should be treated unequally and I. They want to be treated equal. as a comedian? No, no. They want Listen, you understand and I understand. Yeah. In certain situations, they want to be. treated equal. Not all situations. And. and what part of what you saw her get? What. Oh, she deserved everything No, hold on, hold on. What part would have been. different if she was a man? It would have just been more vicious.
Yeah, that's that's that's my point. I. took I took all the vicious and venom. away because I didn't have any. Plus I. understood I'm not trying to offend. black women with short hair. I'm not trying to offend heavy-set. women. I'm not trying to upset fellow. comedians. I'm not trying to do any of. that and I can't I am qualified to be. able to do none of that and still. eviscerate you because I'm smart enough. to know that I need to say that you have. narrowed fingers because I know your.
limited education means you don't know. what the word means. So you can't. possibly respond to it. You're not sure. of the meaning. And I'm going to. continue hitting you because this is. what comedians do. Right. You've been masquerading that. you're a comedian, too, and that's the. fallacy. So and then Nobody in boxing fights out. of their weight class. If you're a 130-pounder, you don't just. show up with the 160-pounders. You stay.
in your weight class. Is that what you. wanted to do? No. That she was out of her league when it. came to because you. want to do any of it. I know you didn't. want to but when she took it there, you. Did you feel that you had to go there? Oh, you go where? You could have said, "Wanda, I didn't come here for that. I. just want to do the interview. I just. want to talk about what happened.". Oh, you misunderstand my job. My My job. is to be funny. MY JOB IS TO BE FUNNY FIRST. My first job is to be funny. My second. job is to be respectful. My third job is.
to be immaculate and god's a strip it. Huh? That's non-political. I'm saying if. you do it You let a terrorist. accidentally touch over here. and I won't stop burning you down until. there ain't nothing left. It'll literally be rubble on top of. rubble and I'll still be bombing. Why? Because that's why you should mind your. business. This is what.
eff around and find out is about. Right. Now, I'm reading. Kat Williams won Cedric the. Entertainer's and Hal Roach Best. Best Los Angeles Comic Award. Did you win that award when Kat. Williams? Is it simply yes or no? It's not a. rhetorical question. It's a question that probably should. have been asked to Cedric the. Entertainer. I'M ASKING YOU. I GOT YOU HERE, THOUGH. I know. I couldn't believe Cedric didn't.
get asked that question. You steal a dude's joke and they give. him an award and then 10 years later you. don't know nothing about it. Hey, but I but I promise you this. What? If he sees me again before he sees you, he'll be talking different when you see. him. That's for certain. That's the. difference. That's what these comics. understand is that I'm not doing nothing. for clout. I don't even recognize clout.
But eventually, the Lord is going to let. me and you be in one hallway. A lot of these dudes go. Kevin Hart don't went 25 years without. ever being in the same building with me. at the same time. But so what what. go in the building, he walk out. You've. never seen us in the same building ever. in 25 years. Like it's like that. Why? Why? Because I'm really the product.
It's not what you think. I am never. under the influence of anything. I'm. always in my right mind. I'm always a. physical specimen and when you see me, I'm much, much bigger than you had. thought. I have far less play in me. than you would like. And I'm relentless. I'm out there. I'm. still to this day I play. 11 games of basketball with a. 20-year-old. The record is 92 and 6.
This is just in the yard, just to the. rack, just cuz. You work out, Kat? You I mean, do you. work out, Kat? I not to the gym. You. don't work out in the gym? You push-ups, sit-ups? I My whole life it was um it. was just push-ups and sit-ups. Only I. would do like um. 100 push-ups a day, just I thought you. were going to say 1,000. No, no, no. Because this is literally every day. This is not for the yeah, for the gram. You know what I mean? Like I literally.
100 a day and I would do push-ups and. then I tore both my rotator cuffs and so. it was only thanks to golf that I was. even able to get my. back. I I've been a golfer for quite some. time. My short game is impeccable. I. I can't get you but but two and some. change off of the. off the tee but I'm still I'm I'm I'm. still coming in for par, guaranteed. Are you playing for the tips? Uh no. I I found that you don't get.
anything for that. It seems like it. seems very ego maniacal. They go, "Hey, Kat, for free you can go. further back.". Damn. What? Wait a minute, does it still count the. same? Hey, I'm up at the ladies tee. Don't. tell me my pronouns. On the golf course, I'm she, her, him, them, and they. Whoever. Whoever at the front tee. Which I know we're joking, we're having.
a great conversation but you did win the. award. How did the award help your. career? It had to help some, Kat. Nope. No. Kat, come on, Kat. remember it had happened till you just. said it. Set How can Cedric give you an. award that was worth something? Everything Cedric and Ricky Smiley ever. been in what got canceled for not being. funny. Ricky sat here and told you that they. cut him out of every movie he did. They. always had a reason. Like.
That's why I'm funny cuz I'm a happy. person. I laugh all day long. I can't. even imagine. the misery of these bums. Well, whatever. Doesn't not be good at. what you do, not work hard at what you. do, but have to act like you're the best. at what you do. It is crazy. It's crazy. But they be touring, they they they be. doing like 100 shows a year. THAT'S ME.
I DON'T run into none of them. That's what I'm saying. If you're a. Faizon Love fan, you mean you've been a. fan of him for 32 years, you're still. waiting on him to do his first special? You mean to tell me if Steve Harvey is. your favorite comedian, you mean you've. been waiting for him to do stand-up for. 15 years now? I mean, Steve got a got a lot of other. DL DL still out there. None of those. irons matter to stand-up. Who cares that they wrote a placard for. you to do Family Feud on? Like you're.
You're successful because we're. surprised you can talk for a living and. it's entertaining that you're going to. say some funny country things. But not a writer. Right. Not a writer. Now, I've had to turn down $50 million. four times. Four times. Just to protect my integrity. and that virgin hole I was telling you. about. Right. Cuz P Diddy be wanting the. body and you got to tell him no. I DON'T. KNOW. YOU GOT TO tell him no. I don't know. I.
did. Fella. I did. See, I got the. receipts for everything I'm telling you. That's why I can say I'm so free. Kat, I need Kat, I need to know what you. here. Get your nose, too, Kat. Thank you. Come on, Kat. Cuz earlier on, you was accusing me of. being. Kat, man. Kat man. It's crazy. When you got into. stand-up, was crossing over, was doing. TV, was doing movie, was that a was that. a part of it? You like, "Okay, I'm going. to do I I'm doing stand-up. Okay. Next. next the the next progression is TV,
movies.". Through Throughout the history of. stand-up, sir, that's that's the goal. for all of us. That's how it goes. That's why when you hear these dudes. talking about, "Oh, I didn't want to be. a movie star." You just know it's. disingenuous. Like, "What are you. talking. about, dude? Yeah, oh, no, no. I just. wanted to do a game show." Right. What? Are you sure? Are you sure? Cuz I thought you did Mark. Curry's show over after he had just done. Hanging with Mr. Cooper.
Why would you do all of that man's stuff. that he did on his show on yours and. then do the dude's stand-up. when you go on the road. and then you never put Mark Curry on. your show or nothing like if you don't. say anything these dudes will run over. you. I don't know if you know how. bullies operate but if you don't stand. up for yourself. there really is nothing they won't do. Right. You're a very generous man Cat. You you the sole sponsor of Melba Moore.
getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of. Fame. You. all that on your own. Why? What do you have a personal relationship. with Melba? No. No. I um. I I understood that she was a black. woman in a time where. it mattered what you look like and they. had a certain thing that they needed you. to look like and act like in order to be. successful and she just never did that.
She wasn't tall enough. She wasn't fine. They didn't like her looks. They didn't. like that her hair was natural. They. thought I'm crazy about her and yet she. still made all of these achievements and. I'm like understand I'm already in the. Comedy Hall of Fame. I'm already going to heaven no matter. what happens. If it ends in a second I'm. up there. So it gives me the leeway to do some.
things that are simply because it's the. right thing to do. So the truth of the matter is they. wanted to give me a star but. Please don't consider me and this this. person been sitting on this list this. whole time and just cuz they ain't got. enough money they can't get they just. do. That's crazy. When do you start That. that's hurtful. What if somebody can't. afford they flowers? You mean they don't. get them? No. God don't operate like.
that. He would send a dummy like me to. come and take care of that. Just so that the right thing happens. That's how the universe work. Because remember I don't What am I. spending my money on? I'm not spending. my money on strippers. I ain't spending. them on drugs. Like what? Because if I go in a if I go in a strip. club I'm only trying to get her out of. there. Yeah. I have no intention of her. or any other people being in this. position. If I see a girl I like at the.
strip club I'm telling her you know you. don't have to strip no more after this. This could be YOUR LAST DAY. HOW ABOUT THAT? What would it be like just to leave it. all? You ain't got to be a hoe no more. I don't even want you to go get your. purse. Just leave it. We get new ID. We. get new ID and credit card and social. security card. This life don't look good on you. You don't even look like a drug addict.
You hear these athletes talking about. yeah we was OUT THERE TRICKING. WHAT? WHY? YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM. You're part of the problem. Stop paying people that you don't have. no respect for. It sets it up bad for us. We got women out here can't find a man. cuz they acting like him. You a alpha. Now the alphas all want these.
subservient husbands. You can't have. one. It ain't going to happen. It ain't going. to happen. Sorry about that. Okay, go. ahead. Boy you done got me canceled how. many times in this program? Where's the camera? I didn't write nothing I said tonight. It's all been on these cue cards and I'm. just going to keep reading them. Ask your next question. The Migos did you help them get out of.
financial situation? I don't think we ever as a nation can. remember a time that the Migos were. financially unsuccessful. So for the record I would assume that. they've never needed Cat Williams. financial assistance for anything. I'm. sure that between QC the label and other. things they were taken care of. On the. other hand if I was given the.
opportunity to help them would I? Of. course I would. That's what I do. I'm. I'm. I'm a pro-black non-racist. Like. I really really love black people but I. don't love them more than other people. I love everybody. I just I'm a black guy. and I I I I I try to stick with that but. yeah I. I'm I'm not one of those pillow talkers. either. Like when I do something good. I'm really not doing it for the gram. It's not it's not for.
It's not for any of that. I'm just doing. it cuz it's good to do. I appreciate that. I read I don't know. if this is true but I did read that. comedians on your show say that women. sometimes would bring them money and not. say where it came from. Say that again. Comedians would say women would bring. them money. and not say where it came from. Right. So.
I'm not a feminist like. a feminist would be but I do believe. that there are no that that in my camp. like if I had 35 people in my camp. I believe that other than four jobs I. believe that a woman is better at any of. them jobs than any man could be. Okay. So 10 of these jobs no man can work. because I'd rather a female be there. If. I got to smell anybody's breath I want. it to be hers. I don't want none of you.
crusty like I So so what I'm saying is. it it in a staffing issue I'm going to. have 75% women just cuz I prefer them. I don't prefer to hear two guys talking. in the corner. I prefer to hear two. ladies talking in the corner. I don't. care what they talking about. I just. prefer that. So a lot of times I will. utilize ladies to convey a message. If a. comedian is doing a great job somewhere. in the country. he he just did a masterful set.
and nobody's going to pay him. They just. clapping and I know he's broke as [ __ ]. back there. Wouldn't it be nice if somebody just. showed up and gave him a little blessing. and he didn't have to suck me off for it. and thanks Cat and boy I really needed. it. Why would you do that? If you was. actually just trying to help people you. would. People know that's how I pay my. tithes. If I got paid $100,000 to be at.
your city. I'm going to take 10,000 of that and put. it in your homeless area. Not cuz I got to cuz you gave me a. hundred racks to come to your little. rinky-dink town. Who would I be to not. pay my tithes back to your town? That's. how I got in this position. Wow. You adopted seven kids. Why?
That's a lot of kids for a man that's as. busy as you are, travels as much as you. do, on the road as much as you are, spend a lot of time but because you have. to spend a lot of I mean it's not easy I. mean maybe it comes to just so comes so. natural to you to put pen to paper and. to write things down and be able to go. out there and perform a set but that's a. lot of responsibility Cat. Right. Right. But if there was a God. what would he think about you if you did.
that? I'm saying let's just let's say for. example that God is real. Okay? And. let's say he'd be looking at what you. do. Yes. What would he say if you did that? He'd say that Cat that's that's a very. that's a very kind gesture. That's very generous of you. My whole life since I was telling you. when I was young and they was asking me. what I wanted to be and nothing I wanted. to be was what. I wanted to be God's friend. That's a.
weird thing if you're a atheist. If you're a atheist I didn't even say. nothing. but if you believe in God and I tell you. that I wanted to be God's friend and I. wanted to even go to Hollywood and still. be God's friend. If I told you that that. was my aim you could understand where. I'm at. Like. I promise you I no jealousy no. bitterness. none of that. I got exactly what I was. trying to get. I haven't been shorted in. any way.
I mean. seven eight kids single. you don't get married? You remember the. conversation where I was where it was me. and I didn't know what was going to. happen to my two little brothers and. they was just going to be out there. So when it gone full circle and I'm. I'm one of the richest men that ever. lived and I don't I don't I don't mean. please don't look at my net worth. That's all my net worth. I I had that on. me.
What I'm saying is. like. I'm saying my net worth is less than my. last Netflix deal. You understand what I'm telling you? It. do make sense. But I'm fine. Jesus was poor. Jesus ain't have nothing.
So why would you be mad you say I don't. have nothing? They ain't have the. minutes they have back then okay. Say it. again. different minutes now. Not not more than. gold. Mhm. Gold was the amenity of that time. We. still got gold. Gold still running. They have the. Rolls-Royce. They got. You you could buy you could buy a ass. That's what they call it in the biblical. time. They were cheap. I'm saying if you really want to say I'm.
saying a colon is cheap. So back in the day I would get my girl a. donkey. Today we get her a colon, but. I'm saying whoever I'm saying whoever. and whatever it is, I'm saying we We did. yeah but yeah I'm saying because what we. going to do? I don't already told you. I'm one of the richest people that ever. lived. Yes. Only in the fact that when I wake. up in the morning no matter where I am, I don't need nothing. Whatever I need is right around me and. whatever I don't have. is only just cuz I don't have it.
It's not cuz I can't get it. All I got to do is want it and it. belongs to me. So because of that. because I'm favored by God like when I. see people's wives and stuff I don't. even look at them. You know what I mean? Like I I don't want to look at nothing I. don't want to have. Because I I know how. blessed I am. If I look at it I got it. THAT'S how Diddy be feeling. NO COME ON. MAN COME. So you're not supposed to look at.
anything that you don't want. Not me personally just because God has. given me literally. everything I ever even pump faked like I. want. And that's the whole thing. That's. That's the whole thing is I don't I. don't have a type of woman. Every woman. that I ever had as a type I ended up. getting her. Now she's not the type anymore. Now I. understand that every woman is a one of. one. Like you can't.
really have types. What? Cuz see I tried to ask you. something about marriage and then I I. ain't say NOTHING ABOUT NO MARRIAGE KAT. YEAH you did. When you rewind the tape. you you let it out. You was like, "So. you ever going to get married?" And then. you took it back. It's okay. It's okay. I. I wasn't always a photographic memory. Are you? I'm not against it. Like most people. that are not married is because they're. afraid of commitment. It's not that like. that for me. It's just. the whole time I wanted to be married I.
I had kids. So I had to try to fill my. wife's place before she got there. So. I'm already got kids without a mother. but so now I got to be doing laundry. I'm I'm washing dishes. I'm reading. stories. I'm having to nurture. I'm. having to do all of this and I got to. the point where I didn't need a wife. I'm doing it and we're doing it and I'm. not replacing a woman in their lives. I'm letting them see that that's just. the only thing that we don't have and um.
it was easier for me to do that because. you have to understand that. all of the kids I'm raising at this. point they have fathers. You see? They have a mother. You see? I'm a different person. I'm raising you. And so that needs to be done with the. other respect for the others that put. work in as well. So yeah. Um I I never. had a problem getting married. I.
What's one of the one thing you try to. teach your kids? I don't teach anybody anything that's. over 18. I've done the work I was going. to do but. as kids I really just tried to teach um. the things that can't be bought. Um your integrity. Um trying to live your life in a way. that you yourself could be proud of if. you had to look back on it. And um.
um. I didn't do very good at leading by. example but behind the scenes I was that. that's never what I was pushing. Um. um they understood that. because of my stance. there was a certain thing that would. come my way. And so accountability and. responsibility is part of what you're. teaching and stuff like that. You know, even if you're doing the greatest thing. in the world. there's this thing called no good deed.
goes unpunished. Like there's a real. Murphy's Law. Like. but basically in raising kids you're. just trying to give them a better manual. and an outline of how life works than. your parents gave you. You know? And so um. that's. how I did it. What do you think about. Kanye rant? What's going on with Kanye? From a distance obviously I don't know. how well you know Kanye. I don't know if. you've been around Kanye but from a.
distance what what what what do you. suspect's going on? I suspect that we're. pretty awful people. if we say that somebody got a mental. illness. and then we watch what they do. If you say somebody got special needs. then why would you be watching them and. holding them accountable like everybody. else? Wouldn't you grade them on a curve?
Wouldn't you go woo. this guy. Because I mean what are we reacting to? What are we reacting to? You're the one. that put him in a position where he. thought he was God and could call. himself Yeezus. And you're the one that. told the guy that writes musical lyrics. that he was a genius. You're the one. that's like so. what do you expect? The guy married a. [ __ ] Like we Oh Lord Jesus.
I didn't mean it like that. I mean. married her because she was one. Not he. didn't know. He understood that he. wanted that. He courted that. That's what he wanted. to base his family on. heart though. I know what you going to say. Don't you. say it Kat. Don't you say it. I'm going to move to the comments. If what I'm saying is not correct then. how does she end up with Pete Davidson?
I mean it happens all the And what if. you weren't even good enough for Pete. and he leaves you? What did that mean. the product was? No. I don't I don't support or. villainize Kanye because I don't. understand what it is we want from him. I. I don't know why we look at a basketball. player and say he didn't score no hockey. goals this whole season. HE DON'T PLAY HOCKEY.
KANYE DON'T SAY nothing I ain't agree. with. Okay. I. He was the weird guy in the beginning. with the pink sweaters when we met him. like What do you think moving to a beat. of your own drum? This. This dude started a church and kept. cussing. Nobody in black church said. nothing. You would have thought all the. pastors would have came and you can't be. no gospel artist. You just said [ __ ]. that [ __ ]. Nobody said nothing cuz TD Jakes over.
there with being in it like OH MY COME. ON KAT. ONLY THE GUY YOU had here has. been upfront and honest and a man of God. and humble and took the L's he had to. take and didn't. I. I did see it was trending though but I. ain't know I I don't I don't I ain't. know why Kat. I don't. Let me go to this question right here. This question. All people that love the truth got to be. happy if the truth coming out and lies. is getting exposed. That's just what. time it is. 2024 folks. Do you consider yourself a king of.
comedy? What do what do Kat. No they they consider that. Oh they Like. like when After Bernie left them same. three guys I'm telling you about the. kings, right? Cuz DL is the greatest. Do. no DL slander gets tolerated. Um but. they came to me. I was supposed to be. the fourth king. I got the offer. THEN. WHAT HAPPENED? BUT I TURNED IT DOWN. WHY? BECAUSE YOU. [ __ ] ON BERNIE. And I know the truth. You think I'm. going to let you [ __ ] on Bernie and then.
come get me? I'm the next king? [ __ ]. you. Why? Because the whole time Bernie was. here you was acting like you was funnier. than him. The reason you was supposed to. go last is cuz it was your tour. Tell. the truth. It was Steve's tour. Not it was going to be called the Kings. of Comedy. It was Steve's tour. These. are the guys opening for him. Of course. you got to close it if it's your tour. That's why it was such a big deal. But. you couldn't do it cuz you can't beat. the best. And until you humble yourself you will.
forever be kinged by the king. And because you finally did it cuz you. didn't have no other choice. And now. that he gone you going to act like he. wanted to be a movie star. You stop it. You stop it. That man was funnier than. all of y'all and y'all thought y'all had. one over on him. You thought he was. black and ugly and you were good looking. and he couldn't make it cuz you did. And. that ain't the way comedy work. The king is the funniest.
Period. Every time. And that's why no audience member was. ever swayed. It didn't matter where Bernie went. You. think if Bernie went first he wasn't the. king? Get out of here. Get out of here. Get your ego out of. this. You let the best be the best. Right? Kat Kat Williams ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for coming on bro. I really. appreciate that. Thanks for sharing the. Thank you. the stories, setting the record. straight. Now you know they going to.
double back. Impossible. Impossible only because if once you play. this back, you'll realize I didn't say. anything that made me look in a good. light. I I wasn't tearing down others to. boost myself up. I But I do have to. acknowledge things that did not take. place. Like we're very ingenuous if we. say this is not a game and we don't play. it and people ain't in positions and. people don't have their favorites and.
their group and their clique and. Right. But that happens in all. businesses. Right. We No. No. Say what side you on. Say why you don't like the other side. And then get to the game. But in the game, I'm wiping the field. with them to the point where they don't. even compete anymore. So, how you going. to let a dude. that's been on the bench for 15 years. Uh. I would have beat Jordan's ass. Shut up. JORDAN IS STILL ALIVE. WE'LL CALL JORDAN RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN'T.
BEAT HIM NOW. NOT THEN. YOU CAN'T BEAT HIM NOW. Let's get to your upbringing. Born in. Cincinnati, Ohio, raised in Dayton, Ohio. What was Katt Williams' upbringing. like? Your parents were Jehovah Witness. You. were a a prodigy. You were brilliant. You talked to me that you got accepted. to college at 7 years of age. You could. read fluently at 3 years of age. So, having that kind of knowledge, having. that kind of uh uh uh uh uh uh prodigy. or.
So, what was So, I mean, what was it. What was your upbringing? How how was. it? How was life as Katt Williams coming. up? Um I I. I was often confused because I knew. things and I wasn't sure how I knew. them. Um. I knew things that I felt like I don't. have a reason that I I know this, but I. I loved to read.
Um I was voracious because they told me. when I was young that knowledge was. powerful. Uh that knowledge was power and I and I. had studied powerful people and I I um. I really believe that. I I I immediately. my next project was to read the whole. encyclopedia set. So, when you're like 6. 7 years old, you read the whole. encyclopedia set, you think you're one. of the smartest people in the world. Only to get out in the world and find. out you don't know anything, you know? So, it um.
It was a It was a confusing time, but. yeah, I had a childhood. I was I was. grown, but I I at 5 years old, I was in. front of. 5 10,000 people giving performance with. a full suit and tie on. You know what I. mean? So, it hasn't It had It It It came. full circle. um for my life. I knew that the applause. and. um the giving of information and laughs.
and truth to people somehow benefited. them and also benefited you and um. Yeah, so when they would ask me what I. wanted to be, everything that I would. say that I wanted to be was something. that didn't exist and they would never. give me credit for it because I needed. to say um. a doctor or a lawyer, but that's not. what I wanted to be. So, your parents. weren't as supportive as you would have. hoped because you were wanting to be.
things when you got older that they had. no knowledge of or it didn't exist at. the time. No, it it wasn't that. It It was um. I'm saying I'm. I'm almost 100 years old right now, but. if we go outside right now, I can run a. 4 3 40. or or sub. I can do a 4 1 6 if I'm. a Jimmy John's across the street. We can. order a sub. But um Oh, you've been on the submarine. Is that what you said?
So, um. So, back then it was even greater. So, you got this guy that all the coaches. want to play. Man, Kath, I don't do that. Hold on. because I'm I'm 5 ft 5 in the fifth. grade. I've been this size my whole. life. Like there was a portion of school. where I was one of the big dudes. Like. it's. As soon as everybody caught their growth. spurt, I was out of there. But I'm. saying I was a competitive individual.
My father was an athlete. Like Like Like. No, I've been 145 lb my whole career. That's why I never bothered when they. said, "You cat's on drugs." I know how. you going to prove that. I'm. My body is a temple. I've been I've been the same size since. I was 10. Like what do you Yeah, like I I haven't. I haven't changed off this pivot foot. This has always been who I was before. stand-up or anything, but it was a um it. was an interesting childhood. I I I. appreciate my parents even though um I.
couldn't live within the religious. frameworks of what they had set up. Um. but that was more not wanting to live a. double life and not want to embarrass my. family. You know what I mean? Because I. read where a form of punishment for you. is that they would take books because. you mentioned you were such a voracious. reader and a form of punishment was when. they would they'd take the books for. them because you could read fluently. You You You told me how. at like 3 or 4 years old, you could. read. Read read. Not Not just a a little.
child's book, but you could read read. Well, I'm saying when we when we go to. Haiti to do missionary work, understand. that my mother and my father, nobody. that's there with us speaks French and I. mean it speaks Creole and reads French. So, I'm in charge of everything from the. housing to the cars to the the gardener. Like I I'm saying so I'm not just. reading. I'm reading in multiple. languages. Like I'm probably I'm. probably reading 3,000 books a year from.
the time that I'm. 8 years old to the time that I'm 12. No No No fiction books at all. I'm only. reading non-fiction. You could drive at 12. You received a. full scholarship to the National Science. Academy in Dayton, Ohio, but you failed. so you couldn't become so you would. become ineligible. Why did you want to. take that opportunity? I didn't see it as an opportunity. When. I got in there, all the students were.
wearing lab coats and it seemed very. confined and restricted and nobody. seemed like they were having fun. It. just seemed like everybody was smart. I. I didn't want that. That was That wasn't. what I was signing up for at all. And. plus um I thought that I was I Jesus was. my big homie. So, you know how you get a. story about a dude joined the gang and. you get a big homie. Like at this particular point in my. life, I'm My thought is that the Bible. is the greatest book that's ever been.
written. Okay. That it houses the truth and that. it gives you this story of Jesus and. that I'm supposed to be like him. Okay. So, I It's already in my head that. as soon as I get 13, I'm leaving. You You You At 13, you not only like. okay, Mom, I'm moving out. You move from. Ohio to Florida on your own. You weren't afraid? I mean, you like Did. you. No, hold on. Did you not have a So, what.
were you going to So, what were you. going to do when you got to Florida? Don't say I wasn't afraid. There's no. such thing as a human being of not being. afraid. There are certain human beings. that understand that being afraid in no. way stops you from doing what you got to. do. Okay. So, um I was I was afraid. Um but I. couldn't be that afraid because I knew. what had happened with Jesus. I knew how. it worked out. I I I knew that I wasn't. in the wrong with how I was feeling and.
I knew that I I didn't have any bad. intentions in it. Right. So, I trusted. God that it would work out. Why Florida? Um because I If you're raised in Ohio, the one thing on your list is. I'm going to get away from snow and I'm. going to get as far I want to Tell me. the place I literally went to a truck. stop and I asked all the truck drivers. where they was going. And there was one. guy going to California and there was. one guy going to Florida and they told. me how long it was going to take. And.
so, that's why I ended up in Miami. Because How did you get there? You. caught a bus or. No, I just told you. I was at the truck. stop. I. I got in I didn't hitchhike. I got in. the back of the dude's 18-wheeler, me. and my Rottweiler puppy and my suitcase. Yeah, because I was. I probably had $2,500 on me. Like I Like. I was shoveling snow and cutting grass. Like I always had pockets full of money. When did you make the decision that you. were going to leave Ohio and go.
somewhere and it ended up being Florida. So, but when did you know that you were. leaving Dayton, Ohio going to Florida? In my father and I's last interaction, um. somebody could have not made it. And we both understood. that was all bad. What was the disagreement about? Um. If If you say that my family is very.
religious, let just say I'm not. So, anything that I'm going to do is not. is going to fall out of the guidelines. Right. But I'm not going to let you tell me. what I'm going to be. Even especially if. what you're saying is wrong. I can't condone wrong. And if I find out. that something is wrong and I tell you. it's wrong and you don't back me, That's what it is. Even as a young.
child, you were willing to tell your. parents that some of the things that. you're saying doesn't coincide with I've. been reading in the in in the Bible. No. No, very simply. Don't Don't try to. disfellowship me for sexual acts and I'm. a virgin. Sorry, God don't make mistakes. You. don't get two times to [ __ ] me over. What do you mean you went to God and he. told you I was guilty? You just lied on God. So long. That's. it. There's no conversation. Deuces.
That's what it was. That's when you made. the decision after that conversation. right there. You said, "No, I can't I. can't live under this roof.". It wasn't a conversation. It was an. altercation. In the altercation, I love. my father, my father loved me, but we. are two men at it. That. it'll never be the same again. You can't. sleep comfortably around me. And I can't sleep comfortably around. you. How similar are you to your father?
Um I don't I don't know. He's a great. man. I'm I'm saying uh my. Cuz you and him y'all butt hit y'all. butted heads. Right, but I'm saying that generally. happens with a father-son dynamic. It. was just that um religious relationships. are always difficult in families. They always are. Before you got to the point. because the dynamic he's father, you're. son. Before that dynamic and you step up.
on his level and you challenge him, you. felt it was best for you to leave. No, no, no. I'm not being challenged. I'm being beat. to death. Oh, he was abusive. I didn't say that. I said we were in an altercation. Uh. I see what you did there. I saw what you. did there. I saw what you did there, Cat. Yeah. I saw what you did. You said. altercation. You didn't say you lost. You said you said altercation. I in no way gave you the impression that.
I won anything. I'm the one leaving. I'm out of bounds. This is house. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You So as long as I'm. going to be under his roof, there are. certain things that I'm going to have to. do. Right. And the only way that's going to change. is either this. or that. And I. I'm saying I had two younger brothers. Like I'm not I'm not an unreasonable. person. Like I don't have any mental. issues whatsoever, despite what they.
lead people to believe. You know, I make. good pretty good decisions. Were you not. So how was their relationship with your. father? Were you not afraid to leave. them? Well, I asked because it it went all the. way to the actual department. So it was. actually going to be something. Um. And when I asked them if they could just. make sure that my brothers didn't get. separated and what's have you.
Um They said they couldn't make those. type of guarantees that they weren't. really sure what would happen. if this went down. And so part of. leaving was. the hope that it would be okay for them. because not none of them experienced. what I experienced. I'm saying I'm the. oldest. There's a lot riding on me. I'm. supposed to at least religiously hold. down the family's name. Correct. at this household. You know. what I mean? How much older are you than the baby and. the knee baby?
Like a lot older. Like I If I'm. 20 and 13. Yeah, they're five. And. in Pampers. Wow. All right. You go to Florida. You tell the story. I've heard you you were homeless. And. Rest somebody else told the story saying. that they were homeless and you said. they. they hijacked your story. Now, I don't. Hey, I don't At 13, I shouldn't have to.
tell you I'm homeless. I'm in a I'm I'm. in Miami, Florida. I have no family. members in Florida. I couldn't buy a. house if I wanted to. I couldn't get an. apartment if I wanted to. I don't have a. credit history. Like. this is not a stretch for me to say that. I'm homeless. I'm I'm living in a park. in Coconut Grove. The park still exists. to this day. For 8 hours a day, I would. get up and go to the library and study.
for 8 hours a day to increase my. education. And then I would leave out of. there and go to the marina and steal car. radios and make $2,000. almost daily. Like I had a routine. This is what I was. doing. played that Santa Claus. You could have. played it. No, the Santa Claus wasn't a thief. The. Yeah, he was. The Santa Claus You can't. tell me. I read the script. Ricky Smiley. told you he didn't read the script. The. The Santa Claus was a crackhead. He just.
had that outfit on. That's what I couldn't have played. Okay. Like I couldn't have played a. black guy that got raped in the. bathroom. Right. So at any point in time did you like, "Man, I made a mistake, man. I should. have stayed my butt in Ohio, man, cuz. this is Man, this ain't what I signed up. for.". I didn't experience anything once I left. home that I hadn't signed up for. If anything, it saved my life. Me being. homeless for that small period of time. allowed me to see all of the people that.
were in that situation and to see that. these were lawyers and doctors and and. and and. and teachers and that these people were. white and black and Asian and Indian. And the only thing that all of these. homeless people had in in in common was. um. they made a bad decision and aligned. themselves with drugs. And I interviewed. them all. What drug? What And guess. what, Shannon? Nobody had a great story.
Nobody had a great story of what meth. had done for them, what crack had done. for them, what cocaine had done for. them, what heroin had done for them, what speed had done for them. Nobody had. them stories. Everybody's story was, "I. had my life together. And then I decided. to do this dumb thing. And I lost my. wife. I lost my house. I lost my cars. I. lost my reputation. And now I'm now out. here sucking penis.
in the woods.". What? Talk about scared straight. You ain't. got to worry about me. If it ain't weed or nicotine, you won't. see me touching it. I don't want no. parts. I've done seen what these things. can do to people. Anything that take. over your free will is the devil itself. Have you ever thought about what your. life would have been had you stayed in. Dayton, Ohio?
No. That That's like asking somebody. that's in the NBA for 14 years, like, "What would have happened if you didn't. come to the NBA?". Well, I shudder to think. I I I thought. it was what I was made for. I thought it. was what I was built for. Anybody that. knows me will tell you that when they. first met Cat Williams, when I was Cat. in the Hat, and they tell these stories. about how he changed his name. Look, the truth of the matter is Disney sued. me. Yeah, I was Cat in the Hat. They sent me.
a cease and desist letter and I'm not. even making $25,000. a year. And the mega company Disney has. sent me a cease and desist telling me I. can't use any variations of that name. Fine, I'm Cat Williams. That's all that happened. I have been this same product the entire. time. They will tell you when they first. saw me doing stand-up, I was just like. this. This is what I bring. This my style.
When did it When did you know you was. going to you want Were you always funny? Did you always want to be a comedian? How did you. stumble on a comedianship? No, I I I loved what they did. And so I. studied them. All of them. I studied all. of the white comedians because I wanted. to know why is Monty Python funny? Why. is Don Knotts so talented? I wanted to. know. why. What is George Carlin's thing? Like.
where So I studied all of the comedy. masters regardless of the field because. I loved to laugh. Right. I didn't know. that these people were making a great. living at doing this. I thought this is. just what they did. They tell jokes. They're funny people. But I loved the. craft. And that's why when I got into. the craft, I thought it was my. obligation to make sure that I kept. writing new material so much that it. forced these comedians to stop doing the.
set they've been doing for 10 years and. keep writing some new stuff. And I knew. that if I could get that to take on, that most of these bombs would have to. just quit comedy cuz they can't keep up. They're not going to keep writing an. hour worth of material. I've written an. hour worth of material 19 times. They're. not going to do it. Why? Cuz they're not. creative writers. They want to get. somebody else and have them write it and. put it together. So. So.
if I'm listening to you correct, correct. me if I'm wrong, I think the best thing. that ever happened was the internet. because now they have to because. normally, like you said, you could do a. set and you do that do that that set in. Kansas City, people ain't heard it in. San Francisco. People ain't heard it in. Miami. They ain't heard it in Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta, so forth and so on. Now you do a set, it's on the internet. Somebody heard it. So you can't do a set. and make it make it last 3 months, 4. months.
Well, it it doesn't allow the regular comic. the ability to grow is the real problem. Like the part of comedy is me taking. these jokes. in January and by March I've begun to. craft this joke. It's not as simple as. it was when I wrote it it was just da da. da da da. But now it has the. complexities. of the fact that I'm having to deliver. this to a East Coast audience, a down.
south audience, a Midwest audience, a. Utah audience, a Colorado audience. And. so it begins to take on a different. complexion because you're having to. deliver it to different people. Okay. And so this is what sharpens your. joke. You then take those sharpened. jokes and make a special. Not you just. randomly take some. So it's a process. You don't allow them the process if the. first time the guy did the joke, now. that's his joke and the joke is.
everywhere. That just sets it up for. people to steal. So how many times must. you tell a joke before you master it? How many times have you had to sleep. with a woman before you're done with. her? That's not fair. If it's great, never. If if it if if it ceases to have. usefulness, so it has been spoken.
Right. I was I I read that. you was raised in in in Florida. You had. some some help. Some ladies of the. night. No, no, no, no. That's not true. No, that whole story doesn't take place. in Florida. That story takes place in. Oklahoma City. So after I'm in Florida, I then join. um I try to join the Marine Corps and. they won't accept me because I'm I'm too. I'm too young and I've lied and told. them I'm 16 and my family's moving down. and I don't have my ID but it's coming.
and so they let me go to the boot camp. da da da. That's not going to work now. Okay, so I've learned that lesson. So. then I get this job selling stuff. door-to-door. um across the country and so I've been. to all 50 states. Again, I'm. 14 years old. Um so I did that. And while I'm doing that, one of the. places I'm at, I'm in Oklahoma. Mhm. And. I've decided I'm going to stay here. because of meeting these ladies that. you're talking about.
Mhm. And that situation. I don't know at the time why that's. important in my life or why it's. something I should be doing or any of. that. But now later on it certainly. helps me in formulating Money Mike for. Friday after next. Right. And uh Pimp Named Slickback. for The Boondocks. San Francisco you Oklahoma so San. Francisco, Oklahoma, Sacramento. From. Florida you moved to the West Coast. After so you're traveling, when did you.
set up shop on the West Coast? All right. were you then? So I I guess I'm. uh uh 18 or younger and I um. Once once I have my Once I have a child, I realize that um I can't It's a lot of. things that I could use to make money. that now. is a no-go. So anything with street. aspirations that I might have thought.
about pursuing or being good at, um. I now am a single parent and I got to. redo this thing. So I need comedy to. really work out for me and me and God go. into um extreme conversation where I'm. explaining to him that I'm a crash out. dummy if he don't send me a lifeline. Like I need something I can hold on to. Before I had left Florida, I did. stand-up one time cuz we was trying to.
get in the club. I didn't have ID. So I. said I was a comedian. They ended up. having me do 5 minutes. But I kept that. in my head that I had done that. When we. get to Oklahoma, they're having a. competition for stand-up and if you win, you get to go out on the road with. uh Jeff Foxworthy and Daniel Whitney who. is Larry the Cable Guy and Richard Jeni. and these great comics you get to open. for them. And once I did that, I realized, okay, as a comedian, I'm.
like way behind schedule. I done started. this too late. All the funny guys are already funny and. no names. Like how am I going to. progress? So I realized that I. I I do better with a white audience than. I do with a black audience and I'm not. sure why that's occurring. Okay. But the white audience likes me. more. That's That's interesting. So when. I move to Sacramento, it's because. Sacramento has a white and a black.
audience almost 50/50. That's almost the. makeup of Sacramento. So I live in. Sacramento for 2 years until I get to. the point where I am equally as funny if. the room is black as I am if the room is. white. That's not enough. Now I need to. be one of the good ones when it comes to. black comics. So now I have to move to. Oakland and that's what lands me in. Oakland for 3 years. Once I have. dominated.
uh male. black comedy in Oakland to my. liking, now I'm prepared to go to Los. Angeles now. Now I know you can't throw. me any curveballs. If it's a white. audience, if it's a black audience, no. matter what they are, I'm prepared to. deal with all of the audiences. Do you write jokes according to the. audience that you're going to be in. front of or or is your joke universal? Well, in in the beginning I part of my.
framework is that I'm tailoring every. show to this audience. Okay. And that's how I was able to show my. range and show that I was better than my. competitors is that I'm Katt Williams. but I was still doing clean comedy. So I. was still going to churches and doing 45. minutes of stand-up at the church with. no curse words, no sex, drug material, no none of that, just straight stand-up. And then I was doing everything else and.
I At the regular club. Yeah, that was. that was the range is that where. when in Rome, do as the Romans do. So um. that's how I started. Um but as you. begin to get better, you begin to be. able to speak to your entire fan base. and that's really what's been helpful is. that I've been having the same. conversation with my fan base for 12. comedy specials.
Is that what set Katt Williams apart? Is. your range? Is that you can do a comedy, do 45 minutes in the church, I can go to. a comedy club in front of 250 or I can. go into arena with 15,000. That's range cuz everybody can't do. that, Katt. Well, if that's what range is called, then then then yeah, it's range but I. I like the people I'm talking to. Mhm. You see what I'm saying? So it's not.
it's not like um. it can't be condescending. because I'm talking to my white male. friend when I'm telling that white joke. Right. When I'm talking about this joke about. this black lady, I know that black lady. That's who I'm talking to. I'm I'm. I'm I'm speaking to this fan base that. I've been speaking to from the. beginning. I already told them what I. was on when I first came in, I told them. they was going to come after me, they. was going to cancel me, they was going. to say terrible things about me and try. to mess my life up. I I said that coming.
into stand-up. I'm I'm saying it in my. So you knew that it was going to be. It has to be. I know I'm going into the. belly of the beast. How could I be. naive? I know that I'm going into. Satan's playground but I'm trying to be. so good that you got to bring me in so. close that I can see who's doing what. and what's going on in there. In San Francisco, you joined the nation. I was ever in San Francisco. I was in. Oakland. You was in Oakland. Did you. join the nation? Is that.
Yeah, Minister Honorable Minister. Farrakhan and I have um. an extremely close relationship. He he. refers to me um as one of his sons. So. um. yeah, I I spent a particular period of. time. Let me explain. Yes. Because my particular background. was already religious and super strict, right? I didn't find out about other religions.
by reading about them. I went to their. religion. I I I don't want to learn from. Jewish people from outside. I want to be. in a synagogue. I want to. I I don't want to learn about Muslim. people from I I want to be in a mosque. I I I don't want to hear about the. Baptist or the Pentecostal. I want to go. to their church and see. And so that was. the religious discovery that I was on. through that period in my life. Want to. join Club Shay Shay? Become an official.
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