Angela Simmons on Dating, Reality TV, Run’s House, Music Career & Building a Business Empire

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and drink today is reality TV royalty. She was on the cult classic MTV's Run. House. She's the daughter of a founding. member of the iconic rap group Run DMC. with her father being Reverend Run. She's become a mogul in her own right. though. a successful CEO, a beauty. entrepreneur, fashion designer, top. performing footwear seller, food. industry leader, fitness enthusiast, a. producer, creator, artist, philanthropist, media personality, social media influencer, an entertainer, an actress, and a mom, and now about to.

add music. Ooh. Ooh, she good. She got. an album coming out. Here she is. The. very talented Miss Angela Simmons. >> Hello. >> Ah, thank you so much. Unbelievable. All. these titles and now music. Yes, >> we got the very talented and lovely. Marissa bringing us a drink because we. got to toast everything. We're here at. 11. It's an unbelievable establishment. here. So, thank you 11 for hosting us. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Marissa. >> You're welcome.

>> To everything that you've accomplished. and will accomplish. Thank you. So, thank you for stopping by. >> The world got introduced to you on. Reverend Run's house. What was that. like? And how did that change you? Because you were you I mean, you were. very young at the time. >> Yeah, I was seven. >> So, how were you able to to handle all. that fame? >> I mean, it didn't happen immediately. Like, we started filming. I was. graduating from high school.

>> and so we filmed it. It was like around. my graduation time. Okay. >> And then it hit after, right? So I was. >> So you were already done with school. then? >> Yeah, it was great cuz like I was. leaving done with the whole school. thing. Had my good time and then it was. like I was graduating and going to. college at that point. So. >> the fame and all of it all really didn't. come until it started coming out, you. know, one episode at a time and I. started noticing people are noticing me. and I'm like, >> how do they even know me? But you know, I mean, you don't really know what it's. going to do. It's MTV and next thing you. know, people started noticing who we.

were when we walked around. people who. knew us before, you know, you just knew. us cuz we were Run's kids, but not like. to this degree, >> right? So now you have you you were. known as Run's daughter and now you're. starting to have celebrity on your own. right, but you didn't get to pick up any. friends because this happened after you. had left high school. Do you think it. would have been different had you had. this start in high school? Do you get. Cuz you strike you strike me as a person. like if you're in my circle, you're in. my circle. If you're not in my circle, you're not about to get in my circle.

No. [laughter]. Now that my circle is already drawn, >> I'm kind of like that. I mean, I just. like good people, good individuals, and. most of the friends and people I have. around me, I've had them my whole life. or like for a very, very long time. But. >> I'm not sure what it would have changed. I guess people would have known me more. than what they did at the time. But. >> I'm I'm happy it happened when it did. because I got to really live out like my. childhood and like not be on TV. I mean, I was mature enough to handle it at that. point, you know. Were you popular in.

school? >> I think so. I feel like if if people if. my high people in different high school. Yeah. people knew me. And then I went to. a really small school elementary wise. So 200 kids from K through eight. >> Damn. >> Right. [clears throat] Very small. school. I was like, yeah, very sheltered. at first. And then by high school, my. last two years, I went to a public high. school cuz I wanted to go to fashion. high school. So I went to fashion. industries in Manhattan and I wanted to. study fashion design and so my parents. let me just change schools in the.

middle. >> So how was that grow? Did you did you. know your father was f because like kids. are famous. They just know him as dad. and mom. So they don't know anything. about the fame but probably as you got. older. So I'm thinking like early like. elementary school you probably didn't. have an understanding of who your dad. was and how influential he was. >> No, it took a while. It took the parents. pictures. It took the going out and. about with my dad to like fun zone and. they're like you could skip the line if. your dad signs this or if your dad comes. over here and you're like okay.

[laughter] So then you start using it to. your advantage. You know what I mean? Like I'm in all these places. I'm like. daddy come here real quick so we can get. to the front or I'm too big to get in. the balls at this point at the you know. the fun places and because he was who he. was. They let it happen. But it took a. minute to really understand it. So when. you're out and all of a sudden people. are coming up to your dad and wanting to. take pictures and and and and wanting to. get autograph signs and you look at him. like why do these people you're just. dad? I mean, you're like you're not like. anybody because your dad's career like. back in the 80s, I saw your dad perform. at the Civic Center with a lot of group.

Run DMC and Houdini and and uh the Gap. Band and all the Fat Boys, all those uh. people back then. But I don't know at. the height I don't know if you like do. you remember anything about your dad. when he was at the at the absolute apex? was born in ' 87. So, we did like go to. shows with him and take the van from I. mean these are like stories that I. probably repeat because I actually. remember them like him saying he's going. to and I don't know it had to be Philly. or somewhere close to he took a van. there. >> and we would go there and he would have.

us in the room and then we'd be on the. side of the stage which was an often. thing like we'd be in a lot of the shows. sitting on the side as like little kids. but. >> it was one show in particular that put. things in perspective. I just watched. him and I was like, "Oh, wow." Throw on. the mic stand. All these like people I'm. like, "Oh, he's like famous." Like. people know him. >> But it took that show for me to like see. it. And then it took like being I mean I. must have been in first or second grade. where I realized that like people. people's parents were like, "Can we get. like your autograph from your dad?" And.

I'm like, "Ograph?" But like that to me. was like the moment where I was like, "Okay, he's famous." But to see your dad. on stage, I'm assuming because as I'm. watching, I used to watch Run's House. I'm watching him and I see his demeanor. at home and he's a totally different. person when he was on stage. How. different? I mean, when you watch him. because you had an opportunity to see up. close and personal. How different is he? And like, Dad, who are you up there? >> Um, I feel like every artist has like. their other side when they're on the.

stage. And so, I feel like my dad is. that person on the stage and I've. watched it growing up. like he get on. there, he's there. But then when he's. dad, he's dad. >> You know what I mean? Like what you seen. on Run's House is like my dad, >> you know what I mean? Like fun, loud, honest, like always preaching to me, always got answers for me. But then like. when it comes to being an artist on the. stage that I saw growing up, he was that. guy. Like you know what I mean? Like I. used to watch like whoa, this is nuts, you know? But he he definitely holds. both. I think everyone has that when it.

comes to being an artist and then being. at home. >> Your parents got divorced at a young. age. Yeah. And with that, I'm I'm. assuming it's hard on you because you're. old enough to remember. You know what's. going on. So, you know, like, okay, I. got mom and dad and we're here, right. here, right here. And now all of a. sudden, I'm going to still have mom and. dad, but they're not going to be living. together. And there's a great chance. she's going to have someone else in his. her life and he's going to have someone. else in his life, >> which happened. Yeah. >> How how uh what did that do to you? >> I think for any children, for me, the. split, it was hard at first, right?

because you're like you seeing your. parents split and you don't know what. that looks like. Now it's two households. so it's back and forth. Dad on weekend, mom on the week or vice versa. But. >> um it was definitely a transition and. hard. I feel like you can't prepare a. child for that moment. It's more like. >> as you go you figure it out. And I was. okay but I think you know anyone with a. divorced like split home you're affected. right? Like you have literally two. different homes. I mean, the perks were.

the two and the two Thanksgiving and. being able to go back and forth and. you're like, I have more family now, you. know what I mean? But my dad is with my. stepmom, who I call ma cuz she's like a. mom to me and then my mom is. successfully married too and they've. both been married forever. So, we've had. two great relationships to always look. up to and like they have the best advice. when it comes to relationships, >> right? Did you ever think like what if. what if he finds someone else and I. don't really like her? How do I how do I. do that? because I I love my dad and I. want my dad to be happy even though it's.

not with my biological mom. But if he. finds someone and what if she thinks she. tries to replace my mom or she's like I. don't really like her or something like. that. Did that cross your mind? >> The transition that they did with us was. pretty smooth that we didn't have that. problem. Like my dad. >> I met my stepmom really like quick after. we everything was like done. Like I met. my met my stepmom who I call ma but like. I met her quickly and I didn't have that. problem. She was so embracing and loving. and treat us like her own kids. So, we. didn't I didn't feel like that. My mom.

is like our like she's a real amazing. mom and she's there. And then my stepmom. came along and she was just adding to. the family. So, it was like a great. thing. >> Did they sit you down? Did they say, "Look, mom and dad, we love each other. We love we going to love we're gonna. always love you." Did they sit you down. and explain that mom and dad are going. to no longer be together? How did that. go about? I feel like I was, let me I. had to be pretty young. I don't know the. age, but I was pretty young. So, I don't. remember that. I don't think that was.

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of the NBA. You grew up in the BBS. Uh. you had a I mean, >> what's the BBS? where. >> I mean I mean you uh you had a nice. life. I'm I'm assuming that I mean Run. DMC was at the top. I mean uh like I. said they were. >> they were fashion icons. They had I. remember the leather Adidas. They had. the shell toe with the big fat shoe. strings and they were all on the. picture. They had the Kango hat with the. black the black uh Adidas suits on. So. you and Run DMC was a very very popular. They were selling millions of of albums.

back the records back then. And so I'm. [clears throat] pretty sure that you had. a nice little cush life and he wanted to. make sure that your life and and every. parent want to make sure their their. kids' life are better than what they. had. >> Absolutely. >> And so they put you in a situation. So. how hard was it for you to assimilate. knowing that your dad is Rev Run and you. have great things as opposed to some of. your friends that maybe weren't as. fortunate. >> Um I always say that I feel like I grew. up very like balanced, right? because my. mom has been a school teacher her whole.

life and I watched her work multiple. jobs like eyeglasses plays like she just. she's always been a hustler so I watched. that and then I you know and then we had. my dad's house so like when we split it. was like. >> Queens and Jersey or Queens and. different parts of Queens or whatever. but. >> I lived like middle class and then I had. also like everything else so it was. always like a balance but I feel like. that kept me like grounded you know what. I mean like that's what helped make me. who I am today is like being able to see.

both sides. So. >> when it came to other kids, like I never. had like a judgmental heart or thought. anything less or seen anyone. differently. I just always looked at it. as like okay like you have what you. have, I have what I have. And I just. never seen it as different. Like. >> do you have a lot of friends? When you. went to your dad, did you have a lot of. friends? >> Since we were still in New York, my. friends were still Yeah. We were in a. different like states state but too far.

>> Um, but you went to an all-white school, correct? >> So, I went to a Jewish school, elementary school growing up and then I. went to a Catholic school for two years, high school, and then I went to fashion. industries in the city for two more. years. >> So, how did because you hear a lot of. people like when they go to these. schools like this and you hear a lot of. people say, "Well, it was traumatic. because I didn't have um a lot of people. that look like me or a lot of people. that thought like me." I remember my. daughter when she went, her mom took her. out because she said, "You know, you. going to this school, this is not going. to be the real world.

>> You're not going to be these people are. not what's going to only be out there in. the world. You're going to be around a. lot of different type of people." And. so, I need to get you assimilated to. what it's going to be like in the real. world. So, how hard was it easy or was. it the tough transition for you to. assimulate going to you went to say you. went to a a Jewish a Jewish school early. on and then you went to a Catholic. school and you knew that the fashion I'm. assuming fashion school was a lot. different than. >> it was a mix. It was wild. Yeah, it was. my first public school experience. [laughter]. >> People hurt, people curse. And I said, maybe that helped me. I was like, I. think I was too sheltered before this. I.

was like, what's going on in here? I. mean, cuz I did grow up like in a in a a. car service going to school every day. I. didn't take public transportation. I. used to want to I used to sneak Don't I. mean, I guess I'm old enough that I'm. not going to get in trouble, but I used. to sneak and take the bus and stuff and. train because my parents like my dad had. it where we had a car service take us to. and from school. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Every day. And you wanted you. wanted to experience it what it was. really like to take the trip. >> I WAS ON JAMAICA AVENUE. I'm like, can I. go over there? I want to see the other.

stuff. >> Right. So, did your dad ever find out? Like, did did you I mean, he's probably. going to if if he watches this, he's. going to find out like you was doing. this. I got a car service. I'm paying. all this money to. >> No, the car service was for school. So, on the weekend, if you trying to sneak. to use the car service, that's when you. really want to do it cuz you had your. friend, right? >> But like, no. I was like still taking. the I was like happy to get on the bus. like this is so cool the train this is. cool because to a certain degree you. know we were really like still like. protected and sheltered at to some. degree I would say.

>> you have a very unique perspective. because like you said your mom kind of. queens and so you know what it's like. you know what it's like to to be middle. class and you know what it's like to be. upper upper. >> What advice would you give someone. coming up in a a very similar situation. to yours? How do you how do you. acclimate? How do you blend in? How do. you become a chameleon? And like your. friends that that you had with on your. mom's side that you don't make them feel. you don't make them feel less than. because it's it's I mean cuz they they. know who your father is. They know what.

you have but you're like I'm still. Angela. >> For me I feel like I still had the same. friends from every school. So like we. just. >> back and forth like our friends could. come there or there. Um, but when it. came to like I never I just I don't I've. never could make anyone feel less than. You know what I mean? So I don't know. when it comes to friends if I ever was. in that position to feel like you don't. have this or you don't have that. So. it's less than. You know what I mean? >> Right. What was it like seeing your dad. go to like rapper iconic and all of a.

sudden he's a a minister, a pastor? I. mean, we were we went with it and it. obviously helped shape me like watching. my dad become um a pastor, a reverend. I. was very much so in church three times a. week with him. Um. it it wasn't like a crazy transition. Like I feel like my childhood. and at that point I was like a teenager. so I was just going with it. It's like. if your parents are doing something, you're just going with whatever they're. doing. So. >> it's like he he's still my father. He's.

just basically he's no longer the. rapper. Now he's Rev. Now he now we just. >> I'm like because I but I think that. would be very very hard to give up this. this I think it's a persona but he was. great at what he was doing but he just. like no I don't want to I'm doing this. I got a I got another calling. >> I don't think that it wasn't that he's. the rapper. I think it's just like. another phase in your life. Okay. You. know what I mean? So it's like. transition or adding a new chapter to. your life. And so we just watched. whatever that was. And now I know from a.

perspective of a woman who's growing, you're always stepping into new chapters. of yourself and who you become and. you're evolving. So we were just. watching that in real time. >> Did he have did he have a conversation. with any did he have a conversation? Did. he like you know what guys I think about. I'm going to chew. I'm going to do this. It's because a lot of times like when. when you make I don't want to say. lifealtering decision but when you make. career decisions you normally I'm sure. he had a conversation with his wife but. did he talk to the kids he's like you. know what I think dad is going to go.

walk a different path now. No, it would. have probably been more like we're going. to go to church now on these [laughter]. days. You know what I mean? Like you're. gonna come these days. And we were like, okay, what else could you say? We live. in the same house. We're doing whatever. you know the head of the house is, >> right? >> But but it's not the first time. I mean, we we've seen I mean sometimes uh. >> singers, you hear a lot of R&B singers, they grow up in the church. You hear. Whitney Houston and Kurt Franklin, something that and some of these like. some of these great singers, they kind. of grew up in the church. I don't know. if we've ever had a situation where it's. been kind of reversed. You start out as.

like. >> and then you go. >> and then you go back the other way. Normally you start in the church and go. this way. You don't normally start this. way and go that way. >> So the non-normal is normal to me. That's what it is. Okay. So when I look. at it, I'm like, "No, it's normal. It's. cool." Like, "No, I just I think I'm. just used to it at this point.". >> When you saw the Duski skit, um, have. you seen the Duski? >> As someone that's that's that's that uh. her father is a minister. And some. people like some people like it's. comedy. And then some people like, "Bro, he's making a mockery of the church. she. making a mockery of the word. And so.

what what what were your thoughts on it? >> I think he's a comedian and I I look at. things as like that's just like his art. and his creative place. >> I don't I don't feel like does he love. God less or Christ left? I don't I don't. know his um like religion. But. >> I just seen it as comedy honestly. >> because you I I I think the thing is. like comedians what do they do? They. take things that happen in their life or. they take things that they see and they. make them funny. Yeah. >> He had to get this from somewhere. I. mean, there were pieces of it that. you're like, "Okay, I've seen things. like this." You know what I mean? So,

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preaching prosperity. He didn't say well. you know. >> and and now you got to bring your W2 and. let me see if you giving 10% tithing. I. don't know about the W2, but I grew up. in a prosperity church where they taught. prosperity and they taught you about. being wealthy and they taught you how to. obtain that and all that stuff. So, I. grew up around it, but not in a way. where people see it as like, >> you know, if you don't do this, you're. not going to be blessed, you know, and. you know, I think a lot of times people. are like, if I give into a church, it's. not it's corrupt. It's like, no, God.

knows your heart. So, that's how I look. at things when it comes to giving. Um, but I did grow up in a church where the. pastor had Rolls-Royce, but so did the. the, you know, everyone else there also. was obtaining their own Mercedes and the. things that they want. So, it was like. sitting under a house that has wealth. and you obtaining wealth as well. >> Oh, okay. Cuz I think the thing is. sometimes that people see is like, okay, the pastor, he has private jets and he. has these mansion, he has these cars, and then other people are there kind of. like struggling and with lights and and. things of that nature. I think that's.

where the. >> the disconnect. See, I grew up in. opposite. The pastor, the the bishop's. wealthy, and so are the people. congregation is wealthy because you're. learning how to obtain it and you're. hearing the word of God. You're hearing. all of these different things and that's. just I don't know. It was normal to me. >> when you hear the word. nepo baby. >> What thoughts come to your mind? >> People that like feel like for me what I. what I take from it is people thinking. it's just kind of handed to you based. upon where you come from. Um.

I don't I I personally like I understand. what a nipple baby is, but nothing is. like for me personally been handed to. me. So when people say that I'm like ah. you know other than the name, >> the title of like my family and where I. come from like I don't think people. personally see my like my hustle and my. drive and like what I'm doing on a. regular basis. But they're not supposed. to cuz the camera's not following me. 24/7. But I think a lot of the times. people think an epo babe is a bad I. mean, it's great that you come from. something that's strong and great,

>> but I think sometimes the NEPO babies. are just handed something like and say, "Go do whatever you're going to do with. it.". >> Like, I've been working since I was. literally 17. So, >> I think and plus, isn't that the job of. parents trying to put their kids in a. better and advantageous situation? And. although the name might get you in. there, unless your father, your mother, the family is in that business, it. probably not going to keep you there. It. might get you in the door. >> Yeah. But after a while, Angela Simmons. talents is going to have to keep her.

there for 10, 15, 20, 30 years. I mean, I dealt with that with my brother and. it's like, well, you got drafted because. of your brother. I was like, my brother. don't play for the Broncos. It's not. like he can catch passes or run routes. for me. >> Like, you're doing your part. >> I'm doing my thing. Yeah. Maybe the last. name helped. Like, oh, he got a brother. that play in the NFL. He's really good. Maybe he can be good. >> That's the good part. Like, we should be. able to use our last name to pass it. down. I would hope my son can then use. the legacy of where we come from to walk. him into a door. But, like you said, what's going to keep you there? Exactly. >> It might put you in the room to shake. hands, talk to individuals, but if. you're not actually doing the work,

>> you know what I think, Angela? I think. it's us. I think we look at it, we we we. judge our own. >> really. >> really really harshly in situations like. that. Like, oh, he got to Okay. >> Everybody, every community. >> if they can help their kids or someone. in their family advance, they're willing. to do it. Only it seems like it's us a. lot of times we frowned upon and look. down. Well, I ain't helping. >> The hell you say? Why would you not want. to help? To me, like I want to lay it. out for you. I want to give you the. right blueprint and then from there. you're maintaining it. You need to know.

how to do it. >> Yes. Yes. I agree. >> There are friends and people I've come. across, they're like, "Yeah, my parents. did X, Y, and Z for me." But they still. got to get in there and like work their. butt off to keep it. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Get me in the door. Now, how do I stay. in the door? That's going to be what you. do to stay there. Now, your your parents. or your name or whatever might have. gotten you there, gotten you to that. point. Yeah. But they can't help you. stay there because eventually your work. ethic, your talent, your drive is going. to what's keep you in. >> 100%. >> Um, and we see this a lot with TI. You.

hear TI, LeBron, and I think the thing. is is that the more famous you are, but. it's, you know [clears throat] what, it's it's kind of hard. Um, and let me. know what you think. Like, your dad grew. up in a very different situation than. what you grew up in. Oh, it was. different time. >> that his drive and you looking at you. like, man, look at this big old house. I. got my own room to myself. You know, I. got a car service taking me to and from. school. Your dad didn't have it like. that. >> Whole different thing. Yeah. >> But I love when I see kids that families.

that really really have it and they. still got drive to go get it themselves. >> Yeah. >> That's impressive to me because it's so. easy to just sit back and like, well, hey, I'm straight. I'm Gucci over here. But I don't even think like my layout. and my the way I was brought up wasn't. you Gucci. It's like. >> you can do what you want to do as far as. career go, but you're not just gonna sit. here and just collect like go work, >> right? >> They encourage like whatever talent we. had. You know what I mean? I think there. are some kids where some parents say, "Hey, you're good. Sit back, relax.". >> I'm not going to do that to my kid, but.

I definitely wasn't, you know, that's. not how I was raised either. It was like. >> I don't know. We're like just. go-getters. >> Yeah. growing up uh uh and being and not. growing up but like you said you were a. senior in high school you started taping. and so you had that going on. What was. how did reality TV change your life? >> Eyeballs, people in my business. [laughter]. Um you know reality TV I think. everything has a gift and a curse to it. And so reality TV the gift is you have a. large platform and you're you can.

interact with lots of people on the. regular, right? That are organic people. that decide to follow you. And then the. curse is like people follow you and they. just make up wild stuff that has not the. truth of you and you're like that's not. me. You think you know me. >> Uh Mimi F said from Love & Hip Hop, she. went viral saying you have to take. advantage of reality TV and plan for. life after the cameras stop rolling. >> For sure. >> I think that's with anything as a as a. professional athlete. At some point in. time the shoe the tennis shoes aren't.

going to squeak on the court and the. basketball is going to go flat. That's. right. and the air in the football is. not going to sail. That's true. >> And people are not going to applaud you. So now what do you do? So I don't just. think that's a reality television. I. think that's what anybody that's in say. like a professional sport because you. have to plan for after that. You look at the Kardashians and I don't. think they thought that when they. started keeping up with the Kardashian. this thing was going to have a 15 20. year run and they built they built an. empire a billion dollar empire. >> Absolutely.

>> Um. what is it? What is the lesson to be. learned in reality television? Cuz you. said like, "Yeah, I get more eyeballs, but I also get more lies. People making. up stuff because you are on and it seems. more believable." Well, [clears throat]. she's out there. They had to know. something. Ain't nobody just making up. stuff. People ain't making up stuff on. random people. Yeah. But people don't. know random people. They know Angela. Simmons and she's in the spotlight. >> Yeah. Well, I you know something I. learned and I feel like this is. something my dad told me is like live. for the praise, die by the praise. Okay. >> And so to me that's like you said in.

reality it can be in sports, it can be. anywhere. It's like if you only care. about what you're getting out of what. people are saying, that's not going to. get you nowhere. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like really being able to. extract yourself from that, right? Like. it's nice that when people congratulate. you, but are you good when they're not. there clapping? >> Yes. >> You know what I mean? Like for me, like. if you're not clapping, that's cool. I'm. here. I'm supporting myself. I got my. team. I got my people on my side. That's. the most important part. But always you. have to you have to plan for outside of. just that. Like yeah, like you said, the. cameras stop rolling. Okay. What else? What's next? Right. you know, I don't. have no cameras rolling on me right now,

but a lot of times that's by choice, too, right? But it's like, what do you. want to do? And going and fully. executing it and doing it and following. through with it. >> Did you know what you really wanted to. do? Because like you said, okay, this. happened my senior year of high school. They started rolling. I'm going to. college. And so, did did reality change. anything about what you wanted to do. with your life? Did it change how the. the the the major or what you did in. college? Did it change anything? Of. course, because it gave my uh sister and. I the time when we did our sneakers a. platform to do it. Yes. Right. So, we.

started something there. We traveled the. entire world. We're in Europe. We're. here. We're there and we're doing that. But that was all based off of being on a. show that people actually got to watch. unfold. So, did it change anything? Absolutely. It gave me a a platform for. people to see me. When you did get. daddy's girl, why was it important to. promote uh you promoted the sneak. sneaker company pastry footwear and it. went from 15 million in the first year. to 75 million during this uh production. and surpass Jordan at Foot Locker. Zena. rocked them. >> Yeah. Haley Bieber. It was it was a fun. we had a really fun run with that. Like.

I said, we learned a lot business-wise. being 17 and stepping into something. that big was like, whoa. Okay. And even. like getting the news that, you know, our sneakers were competing with Jordan. at the time, like we were like, "What? We're competing with Jordan?" You know, cuz like we love Jordan, you know what I. mean? But at the time, like, you know, there were no sneakers for women um by. women that understood the design part. and it just it stood out. I mean, going. to these Foot Locker stores and 3,000. plus people lining up just to come see.

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tommyj.com today to save 25% off your. first order. Code shay. That's code. shay. Sh h a y s h a y. Don't short me. You got to say it twice. How powerful of. a medium is reality television? >> It's definitely powerful. I do feel like. um television is changing now like where. we're at and how it's being done and. they're streaming and there's so many. different avenues now. But it's it's. powerful because you control your you. know you have your audience. It's not.

just. >> people tune in to watch what you're get. what you're talking about basically. So. I do feel like it's it it's powerful. >> How real is reality television? >> Depends on the show. >> because you know what I'm saying because. normally like you don't normally have. cameras. They don't normally say action. cut. That's not how life works. you get. up and you go and you do what you you. know you do what you do. >> and so and it's like. >> man is this is this is do they really. behave like this because you see some.

and all they're doing is carrying on and. then you see some it's like okay and it. seems like the more entertaining people. want to be entertained. >> smoking mirrors I think with some of the. shows like our show was family driven so. very like it was real it was real. dynamic I mean maybe that day we were. meeting at the dog store for me to pick. up a dog but what was happening in that. Thor at the time is real and there's a. real dynamic and I'm with my real. family. When you see some of these other. things that may seem like a little. crazy. I mean, some of it's contrived. and some of it's not.

>> It's it's you just got to figure out. what show you watching. >> Growing up hip-hop, you pitched and. produced uh the show cast member growing. up hip-hop. Have you all have you always. wanted to be like like your father's in. and and was in the business, but like a. producer and behind the camera? Is that. I mean what what did you let me ask you. quick what did you go to fashion school. obviously you went to fashion school so. you wanted to be a designer what what. did you want to be doing. >> so a design is like what I decided I. knew I loved like creatively.

>> but then like once I'd done Run's house. you know just seeing the cameras behind. the scenes and how it works and next. thing you know you do it so many seasons. in you like I could run this whole thing. like I know how to get behind and. produce this I know where this camera. should be I know that this is continuity. like you just know how to do it and So, when it came to creative ideas uh for. grown-up hip hop, I was like, how do we. get together all of these different. people who walk these different parts of. life when it comes to, you know, having. an icon as your mom, dad, or whoever it.

may be and coming together and seeing. what that looks like. Um, but. creatively, like it just naturally, these are things like everything I do, I. feel like naturally just comes to me. It's like something that I've been. around and I perfect and I learn and. that's how I get there. >> How was that experience? um. different. It was different, right? Because I feel like, you know, when I. first started the the season for. Grown-Up Hip Hop, I I had intentions of. it being one way and then when all of. the little like fighting and stuff.

happened, like I wasn't into it no more. You probably didn't see me on the show. that much after that. Um but. >> I think mixing a bunch of people, it can. get messy if you guys are not super. close. And so I'm not into messy. reality. I'm not into messy period. Right. >> So. >> you too like I'm too grown for that. >> Yeah. I don't do that. I got a son. I. got other things going on. I don't want. no mess. Um but it was it was an. interesting ride I would say. I mean I. think there was the ups the highs and.

the lows. I loved once my sister and my. brother were on it because again that's. like home. Yeah. So being able to have. them on the show with me I feel like was. a really good part. I feel like that. show followed a lot of my life that was. happening in real time and it was it was. a lot. >> Right. I It's interesting like when you. did Reverend Run's House, is it a. situation where like they give they give. your father X amount of dollars and he. distributed or did you negotiate your. because you're like 17, 18 years old. You're like, "Okay, I. >> I ain't got nothing to do with that.".

The the deals and negotiations for that. it come through like you know like it. would go through like my dad and like. they would do it like that. >> Okay. Okay. So I was like, you're like, you know what, dad? You know, I think. I'm in due for a raise. You know what. I'm saying? >> Oh my god. No. I mean, we were well. taken care of and everything was getting. to us what we needed, but. >> Right. >> No, I didn't do it like that. >> Growing up with your father, obviously. have nights. So, did your did your. friends look at you as like, well, you. know, you got this. Did y'all go to. skating parties? Did y'all do things. together as like cuz like I mean. Arjuna said Lil Wayne, her father would.

send her money and she was like, "Treat. the other kids." Were Were you as. generous with your father's? >> Well, the fun for me was like when they. would come stay night at my at my house. because we had like the basketball court. and the the bowling alley. >> Oh, you had friends over? >> Yeah. I would they would prefer me not. to do sleep like you bring them here. You know what I mean? So like my friends. that were close to me would come sleep. over and that's when the fun would. happen. Like when I had my graduation, my dad let me do the whole big. graduation party in the back. Like so I.

would just bring people over like the. ones that are close. >> Right. Did you did you ever did you ever. spend the night at at friend's home? >> Yeah, I had like a friend I was best. friends with. Did my mom probably and my. dad, they let me like sleep over one. girl's house and that was it. For the. most part, the answer is no. They can. come here. >> Really? >> Yeah. They funny with that. I understand. that. I have my own. So, I get it. It's. like. >> I don't know what's going on in these. people's houses, but I want to No, no, no. They can come here. >> Do your son Do your son sleep over? Hey, does he have a friend, a f a best.

friend? >> Family. He can stay at family's house. I. mean like he has a lot of god brothers. and cousins and stuff so those houses. but other than that I would say yeah I. can come over here. [laughter]. >> Uh. growing up [snorts] uh obviously growing. up with the Simmons last name being on. television. Um a lot of opportunities to. date come your way. Some good. intentions, some bad intentions. >> Yikes. >> Did [laughter]. were were there more good or bad. intentions?

>> I don't know. Oh, it's probably a mix, right? I think you don't find out about. the bad intentions till you fart too too. far too deep in. [laughter]. >> Especially when you're young. Like when. you're young, it's like everything's. cool. Like, yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, now you're. >> and everything sounds good at the time. You're like, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, >> so so how did you how did you like find. your way through that, Angela? It's not. It's not easy.". >> My sister's four years older than me, so. I had her as a navigating partner, Vanessa. And so like I feel like she was. really helpful when it came to those.

things cuz I would always run stuff by. her or she would run stuff by me but I. was watching what she was doing like. okay how she moving. >> cuz like I would go out with her. >> ahead of time but I would say that she. was helpful when it came to navigating. like dating and then like. >> yeah I'll say my sister was really a. part of that. Bwa was a um growing up. hip hop. >> and you guys have a history. His mom. holds you in very high regard. >> She's awesome. >> She holds you in very high regard and. even he said she's ringing worthy.

>> Oh, that's really nice. I didn't know. that. >> What what what does that what I mean? Think about like you said you didn't. know that. So what what does that mean. to you that she's ringing worthy? Because I think the perception is not. everybody says they want to get married. and nobody's really I mean there are but. you know you date or you do whatever you. do. When someone says man Angela Simmons. she's ring worthy. >> How does that make you feel? >> That's nice. I like that. I mean I know. I will one day be an amazing wife. So. that makes me happy that you know a man.

can see that. >> So I would say that that makes me feel. good. Um, is it true a part of the reason you guys. went your separate ways is that you was, you know, you was a b virgin and wanted. to maintain a virgin, wanted to to. maintain your your your virginity and. your purity until you got married and. you were able to do that until you were. 28. >> Yeah, that's real. >> 28? >> Yeah. >> 20? Hold on. [laughter]. >> Did you just like did you like go to a. nun? Did you not go out? Did you not.

kiss? LIKE, DAMN, MAN. HOW YOU 28? YEAH, I was 28. >> But I'm like I mean, think about the 17. and and I I got a I got teenage I had. teenage daughters. So I know the the boy. thing is real and teenage late teenage. and early 20s and all your friends and. you see everybody doing this and. >> I didn't care. So the real thing is like. my dad and I hold my dad in a very very. high regard. Okay. >> He sat me down. I had to be like I'm. going to go back to 17 or 18. And he was. like he sat me down. He was like, "I.

want you guys, you know, to hold out, to. wait and d." And I just took it to. heart. And then one day, I remember. going to church and they were discussing. all these things about waiting to. marriage. And I was like, you know what? >> I'mma wait. So it went from like my dad. telling me to like hearing it in church. And then I was like, I'm just going to. wait until I meet the right person like. for marriage. >> Wow. >> And then time kept ticking and I was. like, dang, I'm 28. This is crazy. But. um but yeah, I waited until then. And. that Yeah, you asked me two questions. I'm like, wait, I went from that to. this. >> Because like like when someone says that.

you're ringing worthy and it seems to be. but do are you're the perfect person I. want to ask. Do all women is is it the. the ring? Is it the ceremony or is it. the part of being a a wife? Because. there's more to being a wife than just. getting a ring. It's it's the life you're going to have. with that person. You know what I mean? It's the unity underneath God. Um I. think it's there's so many legs to it. I. mean, having that is like it's a. commitment. Like, let's make a. commitment in front of God. [clears throat]. >> Do people understand that?

>> I don't know about now. I be looking at. people like, I don't know. Some girls. maybe just want a ring. I want more than. a ring. I, you know, >> having a ring to me, like, if your. relationship's not together, I want the. ring. Like, I want to walk around proud. with my commitment with my ring on my. hand cuz I know I love my man and I. don't think anything's perfect. But at. the same time, >> like, this shows that we locked in. You. know what I mean? Like, you with me, I'm. with you. And I don't know that publicly. shows something. We know we locked in. before the ring cuz obviously to get to. that point you had to know that you were. going to be together.

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after their original divorce marriage, excuse me, marriages after their uh. their relation the previous marriages. So, you understand what it takes and you. understand. Yeah. There have been times. that my mom and and and my step my my uh. my dad and my stepmom or my mom and my. stepdad, but but they work it out. But you know. what's crazy is like even both sides. like my mom and my stepdad Alfonsi and. my dad and my stepmom I they've never. showed like they we didn't really see. >> they don't do that in front of you. >> We've not seen that like I always seen.

like unity. I mean if they ever were. having an argument they would not do. that in front of us like wow. >> So we seen like I for me I remember. seeing like really good healthy. relationships when it come to those. marriages like. >> wow. marriage. Would you ever spend a block. and marry an ex? >> If it makes sense. [laughter] Why do I. ask this? If it makes sense. I don't I. mean it makes sense. >> I KNOW. BECAUSE I don't put like no hold. on myself to say what I would and won't. do. Like think about it. Like I waited.

I went to wait till I was married and I. have a kid and like just thinking about. my life and what I've said as a younger. person like yeah I'mma do this and you. look at I didn't do like that. [laughter] So like I will be lying to. myself if I don't say I don't know. I. don't necessarily have intentions to. say, "Look, let me go be with this. person. I'm going marry them." But you. never know, like it could be. >> So, you were able to wait until you was 28. years of age. >> Yeah. >> If someone's like, "Angela, how did you. do it?" I because I'm sure I'm sure.

women have come up to you and asked, "Well, how were you able to do it? How. were you able to maintain a relation. maintain relationships?". >> Yeah. And still like because you know. guys look we looking at like babe if you. really love me you know let your boy do. that. >> Yeah. I feel like [laughter]. I had a lot of great reasons to change. my mind along the way. Right. And I was. like nope. I'm holding out. I'm holding. out. And I was in long-term. relationships in between it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like I had guys that was in. long-term relationships and I'm like. thinking after like they really waited.

That's crazy. But it didn't they weren't. on. So I don't know. But. >> I mean you don't know. THEY MIGHT HAVE. BEEN CRAZY. >> I don't know. I don't know. >> I mean, the stomach hurt now. YOU LIKE, "OH, [laughter]. LORD HAVE MERCY.". >> I don't I don't know. I mean, I I even. look at myself like, "Wow, I have strong. willpower." But I know that about. myself. Like, if I want to do something, I'm locking in. I'm doing it. That's it. Nobody can take me left or right. So, when it came to that, I was like, "This. is the commitment I'm making and that's. it, and I'm sticking to it.". >> So, you was in that relationship once.

you finally did it. Once you finally had. uh uh you, you know, you had sex, >> I got engaged. you got engaged. >> and so if you get mad at your partner, you say, "Nah, ain't a ain't nothing. happening here tonight. Ain't nothing. happening here this week." You you stand. on that, huh? >> What you mean? What happening? >> Ain't no ain't nothing going on. You. let's just say you get mad at your. partner. Yeah. And you know sometime you. know guys, you know like makeup that's. the best. >> Okay. >> And you like nah that ain't going down. partner. >> You say it's not going down. >> Oh you so you could be mad at him. So.

you mad at him not him. No, I'm I mean. if my here's my thing about even. arguments in relationship if we staying. together somehow we got to get over it. So I just want to get over it. Like. >> so you want to get out of here get over. it quicker. >> Let's be over it. Like what's the. problem? Can we get to the middle of it? And I'm like okay. Like what we going to. go eat? What we going to go do? Like I'm. not trying to stay mad. >> Okay. Okay. >> I don't like that. I don't want to go to. bed mad. I don't want to be mad. You can. have a little space and then can we. please come back and fix the problem. That's my thing. >> But was it hard in your early 20s? Because you a lot of your friends and.

you see a lot of people in their 20s, that's when they try to they maybe. experiment with certain things and they. find out a lot about themselves. But it. seems to me you already knew about who. you were and what you wanted to be and. who you wanted to be. So, you know what? Nah, doing that ain't going to tell me. anything more about myself than I. already know. >> I felt confident with my decision. You. know what I mean? I think that. >> it happened for a reason. I got to like. openly like freely date knowing that I'm. not doing that too. So, it was like, cool. Like, I don't really I got to I.

got to really know people, too. I think. it teaches you how to really get to know. somebody without that on the table, too. So, >> but then you ended up having you got. into a relationship and you end up. having you having a child. >> Uh at 29, correct? >> No, 28. >> 28. >> Well, was I 29? >> No, I turned 28. >> Don't give me lines. 28 [laughter] to. 29. Either way, like I got engaged, had. a baby at 20 28, >> right? >> Yeah. and and unfortunately uh your your. your child's father end up succumbing to. gun violence. Um how difficult of a a.

situation where cuz now you're like all. my life I've waited 28 years. >> to be in this relationship and to have. this relationship and this is what God. sent me. He sent me this man and this is. everything that I've always wanted and. to have it so tragically taken away. >> Um it's so many layers to that. We. actually weren't together when it. happened. um we had broken apart, broken. up. But it's one of those things that to. me to this day is so surreal because.

it's like I could have never imagined. that did this would be my story. You. know what I mean? And then like the. hardest part, you know, is like looking. at your son and knowing like that would. have been his best friend. like they. would have been. He's so much like his. dad when it comes to like certain things. like. >> from my son likes interior decorating, my son likes cooking, my son likes. clothing, my son likes just so many. things that his dad would like, but like.

I could have never seen this like that. happening to me, but it's very hard. It's it's an ongoing thing. It's grief. It's it's a lot. >> How difficult was it to receive that. phone call even though you guys weren't. together at the time? Horrible, horrible, horrible. I remember where I. was at. I remember the feeling. I. remember that was the first time that I. realized like, "Oh, wow. This is what. people mean when you feel numb." Like I. body, my body physically felt numb when. I got that news. Like for days. Like I.

was waking up every day and I'm like, "This can't be real." Like this can't be. my story. And then. >> my son's name is his father's name. So I. was like, "How am I going to say that. name and not think of his dad every time. I say it? Like how am I going to do it?". So going in therapy was like the only. thing that helped me. >> Do you still call him by his father's. name or do you call him deuce or you. call him. >> His name is SJ. Well, his name is. Sutton. His nickname is SJ cuz his. middle name is Joseph. I'm named after. my dad. So it's Sutton Joseph, but he.

prefers that like in school he's like. you he likes people call him Sutton at. home. SJ. He's very specific about his. name. But I call him usually SJ and. sometimes I say Sutton, but SJ for the. most part. Unfortunately, the the internet beat him. to telling the story of his father and. how he passed because I I would assume. that you were kind of waiting to the. right time that you felt that. >> I mean I thought 910 to tell him, you. know, >> I didn't know he would look that up.

and he. >> How how did he know? Did do you think. someone told him or he's just an. inquisitive kid? >> He was inquisitive his whole he's been. inquisitive since three. He would tell, you know, and I would say, you know, somebody did something really bad to him. and, you know, you don't want to share. those details with a kid, but. >> he um looked it up himself. He would. even tell like my son's um mother, he. would tell her like uh you guys can tell. me like what happened to my dad at like. three, four, he's asking these questions. and we're like, you know, >> we can't, you know, how do we as a.

family tell him what happened without it. affecting him? So, no, like I I don't I didn't realize that. there was no perfect way or time to tell. him, you know, like what happened. >> So, when he found out he I'm assuming he. came to you and like. >> call me. I was on my way to like an. event and he called me crying, balling. They were like, he's upset. He sees that. his dad was shot. Like, he's like, why. did they shoot him? Like, it's like 18. or 19 times in the back. like he's like.

why did nobody you know like he's and. mind you he's nine now so this had to be. at 7:00. >> wow. >> so I'm likeoo how do you explain that to. a kid you know. >> you're going to event you don't want to. lose it you don't want to. >> so I was like I had to sit there and. talk to him for a while kind of calm him. down but I could have never imagined. that that's the conversation I'm having. with you at 7 years old. >> wow. >> do you think the internet I mean what. else you think he's found on the. internet that you kind of waiting to. tell him because it see it seemed like.

he's very he's very very inquisitive. So. you might as well just go ahead and get. it out and open. You might as well go. and get it out and open. >> He's super smart. He waits though. He'll. hold information and then he'll ask you. later. Inquisitive. He'll keep it and. he'll like when he's ready to have a. conversation, he'll bring it up. The kid. is something else. >> In fact, he probably will see this. He's. like, "You be talking about me to people. like [laughter]. he's something else." Okay. Does it. knowing that he is so inquisitive, understanding that the internet is. forever, does that make you more mindful.

of the things that you post? Does it. make it more mindful of the things that. you say? Because there's going to be. probably if it's gets if you say it, you. are Angela Simmons. If you say it, if. you post it, it's going to be on the. internet and he'll be able to have an. opportunity to find it. >> I feel like I've always kind of been. mindful of. everything I say and who I am and what I. do. And so like I don't feel like. there's information out there that I. would be like I'm not proud of it. You. know what I mean? Or I wouldn't have a. conversation with him about it like this.

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with with your dad in the car. >> Yes. >> How influential and how helpful has your. father been in helping you raise a son? >> He's great when it comes to advice. Like, I'll I'll call him about anything. and his advice is always like right on. time. And my son is so cool because he. has his own relationship with each. grandparent. And so my dad and his. relationship's really cute and fun. And. when we go over there, he lo my son. loves cars and my dad knows that. So. ever since he was like literally like, "Come on, let's get in the car." And so. he he'll ask questions about the cars.

and all that stuff. So it's really they. have a really good relationship. um you were in a relationship um a. public relationship with Yo Gotti and he. tragically lost his brother to gun. violence and it's something that you. know. >> going through and unless someone has. been through it, it's kind of hard to. like to know what that person is going. through, but you had been through it. The the the the son of the father of. your son had tragically lost his life. So you guys were able to talk about it. on on a on a level that maybe not a. whole lot of people would have been. understanding. So, how were you able to.

like because it's tough that family. member I mean like you said when you got. that phone call so you can just imagine. him getting a phone call that his. brother had lost his life. >> Yeah. I think out of respect for his. family and everything I don't really. want to discuss like stuff around like. stuff like that. >> Okay, that's good. >> Tell you what you do want to discuss. Memphis. It's been in the news a lot. lately from the NBA players talking. about the hotels and the accommodations. And I'm assuming uh God is from Memphis. that you didn't stay in a hotel when you.

were in Memphis, but the cuisine and the. night life and the what it's like. Give. the people a glance because and what I. was trying to tell you got to understand. these guys make 30 40 $50 million a. year. They're used to staying in in the. Ritz and the Four Seasons and the. Montage and these Placial Estates. the. Hyatt Best Western the days in gonna cut. it for them. Even if it's only for one. Luther Vandros only for one night. Talk to us about Memphis. You spent some. time in Memphis. You know what it's. like. The dining uh the the night life.

What What's it like? >> I would just say, you know, I've spent. time there. I even before him, like I. would go there for like work and for um. signings and different stuff, but I. would say food is good. It's just I'm. vegetarian. Vegan. >> A man, you can't [laughter] go to. Memphis. No damn vegetarian. You need to. go TO CALIFORNIA. >> SO FOR BUT SO for me I can say the sides. I found good sides but they looked at me. like I was crazy like oh you don't eat. NO MEAT. WE AIN'T GOT nothing for you. >> So I don't know if y'all want to hear my. perspective on food in Memphis but hey.

you know. >> So how long you been vegetarian? >> Oh man since probably. 15 16 17 years I stopped. >> Your dad's veget? >> No no no but it's been a long. >> So how did you decide to go veget? I. mean what was it about? started with my. uncle when I was like oh. >> 10 or 11. He was like watch this video. So I watched this video of all these. animals and I'm like I don't want to eat. meat no more. But then like I was like. living at home and I'm like yeah it's. not going to happen. They're cooking. meat and I'm eating what's being served. And then finally for me what happened is.

I moved to California with my sister and. I was like met my trainer started. working out and I'm like oh I got to eat. better. So, I started eating better. And. then eventually I ate this piece of meat. and I didn't feel good no more. And I. said, "You know what? I'm done eating. meat, right?" And it was that simple. because I remember my uncle saying, I. was like, "So, if I want to be. vegetarian, like what I got to do?" He. was like, "You like rice and beans?" I'm. like, >> "Yeah." He's like, "Okay, so you'll be. good." I'm like, "That's not going to. fix it." But I did wind up just cutting. out meat at that point and not eating. meat anymore. >> So, you don't eat meat period. You don't. eat fish? You don't eat chicken? No. No. meat? >> Nothing.

>> Wow. >> What about eggs? Um, not currently, but. I do I do eat eggs, but not right now. >> Milk? >> No milk. I try to stay away from dairy, but I do like pizza. >> Dang. >> Yeah. >> No, I'm good on that. I'm have to. [laughter] eat. I'm good with that. No, I I got to have that. >> I can eat all the sides at steak. restaurants and. >> No, I want a steak. You see, you said. you didn't say sides restaurant. You. said a steak restaurant. >> But you eat all of the great the garlic. mash and the the greens and the. >> But you know, they put they be putting a.

fat back and all kind of stuff. They be. cooking with oil. All of them. >> Yeah, they do. And you do be tasting. good though. >> No fat back. >> You eat [laughter] that be tasting good. You be eating collard greens with TURKEY. DEX SMOKE BALL DOWN. >> NO. [laughter]. >> What about uh so you on the breakfast. club and uh they was talking about your. Memphis accent when you like when you go. like I don't know how long you were. there but how did you did you did you. intentionally pick up that or just like. well damn I'm just this is how everybody.

talk. I didn't even realize I had the. accent. I just think because I'm with. somebody so much, you just pick up their. accent unintentionally. I'm so New York. that people always like, "Your accent is. so New York." So then when the Memphis. of it all, I was like, "Do I sound like. I'm from there right now?" Like, I. didn't even realize. [laughter]. >> posting on social media. How long or is. there a timeline in which an individual. date someone before [clears throat] they. start posting them online? Is there a.

set time? Is it immediately? Is it six. months? Is it a year? Is it never? We. keep stuff private. If we date, if we. date in private, we can, you know, break. up in private. If we date publicly, we're going to probably date break up in. public. Is there is there a set time in. which a person should post someone on. social media? >> Um, let's see. I would say. there's no specific time. I think it. depends on the person, the individual, and who you're dating, right? >> And what you want to do. So, if you want. to be private or you want to be public, uh, I suggest you at least get to know.

the person some before you go posting. them. Otherwise, you'll find out some. information. I'm sure in this day and. age, if you doing something stupid, it's. going to come back some way somehow. through social media. >> Right. You you mentioned like, look, okay, get to know that person that you. don't believe there's a set time. But. make sure you know as much as you. possibly can before you start posting. that person because the last thing you. want to do is post that person and then. somebody else post, well, we got. pictures with him just yesterday. >> They got five girlfriends now. You. looking stupid like bang. Why I put you. up that quick. [laughter].

I'm in love and so are y'all. >> When you break up with said individual. and you got stuff on your on your on. your feed, do you remove it or do you. leave it? >> I mean, it depends. I mean, >> how far back is it? So, if it's tw, let's just say you. >> IF YOU CAN'T GO ALL the way back and. find it, >> I'm not going to go down my whole. timeline. Sometimes it takes too long to. get back. >> Delete. >> Delete. For the most part, if I see it, I can get rid of it, right? Yeah. I. mean, if we want to go ahead and just. get rid of archive and just move on, then yeah, I don't see nothing wrong.

with that. >> How about this? How long. are you in the relationship before you. introduce someone to your son? >> I I prefer enough time that I feel like. that we're actually going to be a thing. Cuz now my son, >> we locked in. We here. >> My son's inquisitive. Like I said, he. looking over my shoulder at my phone. And I'll be like, "Dang, back up." He. like, you know, I be He be in my. business. So, but I It got to be like, "We about to this is it. Like, we going. to be together.".

>> Does he ask you, "Mom, when are you. going to start dating again? Mom, >> I'm going out." He'd be like, "You going. to meet someone?" I'm like, "Will you. leave me alone? [laughter] I'm just. going out." Or like he's curious. >> No, I'm just going to get tofu. >> Not tofu. I don't EVEN EAT TOFU. >> YOU OH, >> I know the list shortened. Don't worry. I'm not the It's It's real simple what I. eat. I like Thai food though. >> Oh, you like Thai food? >> Yeah, there's good things. >> Like noodles. >> Noodles, the broccoli, there's veggies. There's tons. I promise. It sounds like. it's short list, but it's a long list. >> Help me understand this. Why do you.

think people are so invested in. celebrity relationships? >> I don't know. I don't have that answer. Do you? Cuz I really don't know. >> I don't I don't have that. You know what. I think a part of it is and and and I. think the reason why especially when. celebrities do TV shows, I think the the. common the average person wants to see. >> how similar or how different my life is. from theirs. >> Yeah. >> I want to see man, you know what, Angela. Simmons wake up just like I do. She go. brush her teeth and wash her FACE JUST.

LIKE I DO. and she goes because they. want to see how similar. >> their lives or unsimilar their lives are. to what. >> I can see that like seeing the. similarities of someone else that's. similar to you. >> but yet they're just like got a little. fame. >> Yes, >> that makes sense. >> I I think I think that's really what it. is because ain't no reason. >> sometimes people root for people. I say. with the with the relationships maybe. they get invested because they want to. see it cuz I'll run across people and. they like. >> I hope y'all be together or whatever you. like what what you got to do with this.

but it's the it's the hope I think right. >> but there you know look there's been a. lot of uh over the last couple of years. they've been Angela there have been a. lot uh from how much you spend on the. first date and where you can take. someone on the first date and it used to. be you know I growing up it was like. Applebee's and and hoola hands and TJ. and TGI Fridays and now it seems to be. no you we got to go to Del Fris or we. got to go to Mastros or we got to go to. steak for I'm like but damn because if.

you start way up here where do we go. where do we go from there. >> we can keep going. >> a so high I mean okay. >> we can go to Italy next to get some. pasta. there's always somewhere else to go. >> chef. >> I mean there's tons you can do. >> Angela if you start off with that. Where. do you go? >> Well, you can start off simple, too. We. go to Waffle House. >> Yeah. See, that's what I'm talking. about. YOU AIN'T GOING TO NO WAFFLE. HOUSE. STOP IT. SEE, THERE YOU GO. YOU. JUST THROWING OUT STUFF. >> I LIKE WAFFLES. I LIKE waffles and grits.

and the potatoes. And when I eat eggs, I. like the eggs. >> Oh, you know what they put in grits, though. You the old. >> Not at the Waffle House. It's just um. What? >> They got butter and everything up in. them. Yeah, they got butter in them. grits. >> You said blood. >> Butter. >> Oh, I said. >> no butter. >> Oh, >> lots of it. And you know they cook. everything on that grill. >> My daughter ain't gonna kill me. >> No, they Well, I don't know. I like. [laughter] I like the waffles at Waffle. House. >> But I mean, >> but so you could start there. It's It's. all about. >> But you But you But you see the uh they.

had a list and uh and it was like the 50. places you don't take somebody on the. first date. And it was like Waffle House. and Cheesecake Factory and and made this. list. >> Y'all didn't. >> I didn't make that list. Y'all did. You. got nothing to do with that list. >> Women. >> No, don't women. >> Can you see that on the internet? She. don't want to get out the car cuz he go. here. That's a chain restaurant. I don't. do chain restaurants. I do single. >> I mean, as long as we're building up. something. What if we started at the. Waffle House and you did something.

really nice and you did the flowers and. you had a conversation. >> WHO GET FLOWERS GOING TO THE WAFFLE. HOUSE? >> YOU SHOULD GET THAT REGARDLESS. I really. think that's the most that is the most. simple thing. I mean, you could go to a. store and get flowers. You can order. So. you want the man showing up so he come. pick you up. You You want him as soon as. he. >> There you go. Look my look beautiful. >> He should have preent mine. But I'm just. saying THAT THERE ARE. >> COME ON. See that's what I'm talking. about. >> I'm just saying you should preent mine. Like the I like a lot of them or the. forever flowers, you know.

>> Oh, you like the forever flowers? >> I like both cuz like I like options. So. like you know the ones that are alive. and then the ones that you can like. leave on your table and I'll always. remember you sent me those, you know? So. you want So anytime you go out, you want. your man to already have sent you. flowers. You want. >> that? That would be nice. That's really. thoughtful. And see, I'm not even ask. for a gift there. I'm saying flowers. It's just thoughtful. There are so many. places you get flowers from. >> But I'm just saying, Angela, you going. out at least once a week, twice a week.

>> I know men that give their wives and. their girls flowers every week and send. like a lot of them. I do. >> What What if I I tell you what, how. about this here? Because I used to when. I was in California, I would have. flowers sent to the house because I like. flowers too. Have a nice arrangement. sent. How about if I just send you an. arrangement send you an arrangement once. a week? >> That's nice. That's so thoughtful. If. somebody just hit send on auto reset and. you just keep Why not? >> Okay. >> I don't think that that's bad. You think. that's a lot to ask for from a guy?

>> No, I don't. >> I just feel like that's like super. thoughtful. Just little cute little. notes and stuff. But those three $2 $300. a week add up quick though. >> It do. It get there. But then you. [laughter] could always. >> See, you said it do though. >> I mean, you could always replace it with. something else. But it's just the fact. that I don't know. There's always just. just things. >> Oh my good. So you you you a gift girl, huh? You like gifts, huh? >> That's the love language. Absolutely. >> That's your love that's a love one of. them. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I like stuff like that. [laughter]. >> I am a hopeless romantic.

person. [laughter]. Yes. I hope you find somebody that's. able to provide that lifestyle for you. >> I've experienced this. >> Yes. But and and and that's the thing. Once you get to that, I don't see you. Ain't no way. >> Okay. You ain't going back down. >> You're not you're not. And and and and. and I think this is what happens when. women when they date [snorts] athletes, celebs, or entertainers. Once you get in. that lifestyle, once you you've gone to. Santorini or you've gone to the Maldes.

or you've been on a private jet or. you've gone to this all-incclusive, >> you don't want to go back. >> I And the dude and the dude, he might be. the man of your dreams, but the best he. got for you. Uh [laughter]. >> a trip to Miami. >> That might could work though. You can. make it work. >> When you go to the Baldes in Bali and. you stand on those bungalows that's. overlooking. >> where we go in Miami cuz there are a lot. of amazing places in Miami. Which one. better than the Maldes? >> I mean, it's not bad. >> at the Four Seasons at the Maldes where. you're overlooking.

>> EXACTLY. [laughter] EXACTLY. >> HEY, I understand where you're going. >> And you got the And you and you've been. on a private jet, Angela. >> Of course. >> No, I'm just No, I'm saying once you've. been on that and you just pull up, you. ain't got no airport. You ain't got no. TS. >> Once you been on um Emirates, the the. first. >> That's where I want to go. >> I love that flight. >> Emirates. They say uh uh uh. >> You haven't done it yet? No, I haven't. Singapore. They got enough. They got. they got like. >> Singapore looks amazing. The beds. >> Yes. Yes. I gotta do that. >> The Dubai one is like the trip is on the. plane to me. Like sit in there. Yeah.

You order food as many times you want. >> Yes. Yeah. You got a little bed. You got. a little recliner. It's more than a. recliner. That's a full bed. >> I Yeah. I think I could I think I might. be able to do cuz I hate I hate being on. the bed. >> And they got the bar in the back. You. get up and walk around. It's fun. >> You been on it? >> Yeah. A couple times. A lot of times. It's. >> Damn. God dang. All [laughter]. right. You know, >> I don't want to go back on it. I think. that's a good idea. >> I mean, I just I just I just do Delta. first class. [laughter].

>> Delta first class is great. Delta one. >> That's all I got. I ain't got no. >> Delta one is good. >> So, there been a lot of talk. Stipens. Do you believe a man should give his. girlfriend stipen? >> Um, I've seen that conversation going. around. It depends on the level of your. relationship, but I don't see nothing. wrong with a man taking care of a woman. Like I think a woman can go out and get. hers, but I think a provider is a. provider, right? I believe in the era of. men being providers. >> So you like your guy, Angela, go get.

your hair done. I got that. Go get your. nail done. I got that. Go get go to the. spa. I got that. You like that? >> Yeah. Why not? >> I mean, is this a a monthly thing? How. often? I mean, is this like Okay. >> I think if I'm with you, you like my. man. Monthly for sure. >> Monthly. >> Yeah. Why not? >> I think like it like I I live the life I. live without a man, right? So it's like. >> so he got to he got to maintain the life. that I have. >> Why not? We doing this together and we. gonna build an empire together too. So.

it's like I think why not? >> But the people. >> I don't need you to do it. You don't. have to do it. >> People don't see all these people that. you walked in and that you know we keep. cutting and they doing your hair and. doing your makeup and the manager. somebody stop. Leave your hair alone. [laughter]. >> Leave your hair alone. But. >> but it takes a village like to to people. don't see what it takes to like maintain. and do what you do behind the scenes. So. it's like you and your man when you come. together like I'm supposed to do that. together. >> But but how do you have how I'm just.

trying to figure out how do you have. this conversation cuz I know like. sometime some things that you just do. naturally like babe you know what you've. been working hard. Hey go get your nails. done. Go get your hair done. Go get this. X Y and Z. We going out tonight. But I I. don't I don't know. I I don't cuz I'm. working so hard sometimes I lose I would. lose track and I'm not even really. thinking about it. I'm like damn she. she's been working hard too and I. haven't done some of the things that I. probably need to do. So. how does I mean do you remind him? I.

mean is that something that he should be. reminded of his own? >> I think if you're in locked in long-term. relationship marriage or whatever it is. like babe pairs this is what I'm going. to give you per month. Like do do what. you want to do with it. >> Damn. [laughter]. I think it's the truth. I think like, hey babe, this is. >> so you a credit. You on cash or you on. credit card? >> However you want to do it. >> God dang. >> However you want to do it. I don't see. nothing wrong with it. Like especially. when you're like a woman, like a boss. that goes out and gets her own and does. it anyway. Like.

>> that's like dope. Like your man. providing and you can do it yourself. too. >> You uh let me ask you a question. You do. for your man? >> Yeah. I would I love doing for my man. like going getting things and surprises. and things and remembering stuff he. likes and I like stuff like that. >> So, uh, do when you go out when you, uh, when you when you were dating, did you. ever did you ever treat the man? Did you. like, "Baby, put that away. I got. >> if they allow me." Like, I don't think a. lot of the times they're not going to. let me just take the bill. It's not. going to happen. Like, I wouldn't even. dare. It's like almost rude for me to.

take my No, >> I just, >> but I would. >> Sometimes I I just want to see I just. want to see you go. I just want to see. someone go in their person like I ain't. >> pretend. Yeah. the awkward moment for. you. >> Even Even Even if. >> just an inching over, >> even if the car going to get declined, >> just just try. >> I just want to see I just want to see. you I want to see you do it. >> cuz more times than not, I probably. already taken care of. >> I'm already ahead of it. Yeah. Let me. just see that you trying. That's it. >> I like when people try. Try. Effort. Effort is important. >> See, >> I get effort.

>> My girl Young Miami, I had on here and. she was unbelievable. She said, "A man. needs a minimum net worth of 100 million. to date her." I don't see nothing wrong. Honey, >> hey, she go and she get her own stuff. and if that's what works for her, that's. what works for her. >> Angela, do you know do you know of 8. billion people? Do you know how many men. in the world have a net worth of a. 100red million? >> But they out there. >> yet. But here's the thing. You do.

realize when you start saying, "Okay, I. want a man 6' tall. I want a man that's. educated. I want a man that likes to. travel." So, so every okay we starting. out like this here. >> and then it gets smaller. >> So, so guess what? >> When you get all the way down to 100. million after all those others that you. want is like this right here. But all. the while that man that has all those. qualities that you want, >> guess what he has to want? >> What? >> You. >> That's a fact. I mean, you got to want. each other. See me. I mean I mean I wish.

a You think a guy out there like you. know what a woman got to have a net. worth of like a 100 50 million. [laughter]. she to see me. >> She need to want to travel. She need to. want to be on the balcony. >> Are men that specific? Are you that. specific? >> No. Men are being a different. >> So what's the they're more simple? >> Yes. M. >> a man man men are more times than not. men are to look. >> because a man a man can find a nice. looking woman she could be at the bus.

stop he going to pull side hey and try. to m at her. >> really. >> women ain't you could be 6'4 chiseled up. ab. model Tyson Beckoot. who I saw this night looking guy at the. bus stop child but he on the bus stop. [laughter]. right. >> p right by who is stepping on the gas TO. MAKE SURE SHE car. >> straight by. >> since we see your mom and and and and.

people your mom and your grandma they. ain't think like y'all see y'all didn't. change the game Angela. >> but the GAME HAS CHANGED. >> NO GAME AIN'T changed the game love is. still the game love I got to love love. love. >> yeah I don't know. >> do. >> it's getting weird out here. >> I'm getting it's just different times. have changed. >> so what what's changed about it okay let. I tell you what from from work now that. you're dating now to when you were. dating say 20 years ago. >> Oh Jesus, >> that was a child that was a long time. ago. Um,

>> so from now. >> I just feel like people were it was just. different like when you think of like. love from like my parents era. Yeah. >> It was more like Marvin Gay like let's. stay together like now it's like I just. people give up quicker. >> Yes. >> Um. >> you know why? >> Why? >> Too many options. >> That's terrible. But all the options are. not better than the last one. >> I know that. Yeah, >> I know that. But you got to realize your. parents didn't have they didn't they. didn't be able to stroll and see what's. going on. >> You would have had to go out and figure. it out and it would have to have took a.

while cuz you can't just. >> Yes. You didn't know you didn't know. what the women look like in Miami unless. you was in Miami. You didn't know what. the women look like in New York or. California or Vegas or Arizona. Unless. you were in those places. >> Another country. Social media had you. connected. >> God man. South Africa got the [laughter]. YOU GOT THE PAIN OVER THERE. HEY, we are. true. >> ON A PLANE. YES. NOW WE TOUCH IT down in. Joberg. >> Yeah, that's true. That is the social. media has it where you can meet anyone. >> and everybody.

is. a plane ride or a car drive away. It. used to be like this was never your. wildest dream. You think you could. >> Yeah, this that's crazy. I'm still old. school of that. >> Is that a good or a bad thing? >> I mean, some people have met there. forever like that. They did, >> but it just makes it just makes dating. more difficult. I think. >> it is. >> Could a guy slide in your DMs and you. take him serious? >> I could think about it. [laughter]. >> I would have to go to their page and go. down a rabbit hole and figure out.

>> So, so you you go down you so you go to. their page and like, let me see. >> It's exactly what I'm doing. I'm send it. to a couple friends. You know who this. is? Do you know anyone who knows this. person? >> Has he been in your DMs? Has he been in. anybody DM? >> I know everything. my team. We got, you. know, we do our own investigating. Figure out who's who who you know. >> I saw that they say women are better. investigators than the CIA. >> So y'all could Hey, >> you know, >> all all the president had to do is hire. y'all. Y'all have been done got Ben. Ladden. Y'all got Ben Ladden about 20. years ago. >> We are We Yeah, I try not to be. It just.

comes to me. [laughter]. >> Uh India Love says she doesn't like when. men complain about the price of things. Uh want things to be cheaper. Are you. the same? >> I don't think there's a reason to. discuss the price. Why? Why would anyone. complain, >> man? Cuz y'all be wanting. You come here. with YSL YSL on the heels. Stop that. What you mean? >> But that's okay if you're worth it. Like, you know what I mean? Like when. you are a woman of high value and you. >> I got Kate Spade. I got Kate I want a.

Kate Spade budget. >> Okay. Well, [laughter]. >> Kate Spade and Coach, >> there are options. I think coach has. great, you know, there there are things. there are options. Everyone is in. certain buckets, >> but but you've but you're at a level now. I just don't see a situation, Angela, where someone and and as much as you. might love that person, you've. established a level. I don't see you. moonwalking backwards. >> cuz like you said, you can do for. yourself. I can't have a man that do.

less for me than I do for myself. >> Yeah, but I love love too. So like it. depends like I need to meet a man that. is highly ambitious on his way somewhere. doing something with his life. Like I'm. very like. >> he's on the way to the pizza parlor. [laughter]. >> Did that count? >> I'm just I'm open. I like I like great. people. >> You know when you do talk about I'm open. to great I'm open to great people. Ah. >> you don't believe me? >> I do. I like great people. >> I'm looking at your dating pool. >> What' you see.

>> the guys out there? They might be great. people, but they got great pockets. >> Well, you know, we're ambitious. Equally. ambitious. We both are hustlers. I'm. sure if that's what happened there. >> Okay, how about this? Could you date a. man that make less money than you? >> But you love it, man. He love I mean, he's everything. He's god-fearing. Uh, you know, he he loves. >> But is he insecure? Because a lot of the. times that breeds insecurity. So, if I. said yes and you make less than me, now. you're insecure. And now you dealing. with a man that is angry and then.

they're dealing with you a certain way. So it depends on who you're dealing. with. >> I don't want that. So and then they're. like always questioning, "Oh, why are. you with me then?" Bro, I don't have. time for this. So like, >> but that's what y'all DO. Y'ALL DO THAT. TO US. >> NO, WE GOING to ask you why are you with. us? >> Exactly. See, YOU JUST. >> NO, I'M SAYING THAT YOU MUST BE It's. something you ignite. Obviously, like if. a woman's asking you why you with me. sometimes for me, I'll speak for myself. I'm just I just I like to ask a lot of. questions. >> Why you all. >> I'm a Virgo and I ask a lot of.

questions. >> I hate I hate I love answers. >> You could be WITH ANYBODY. WHY? OH, >> I WON'T ASK THAT. But I'll just be like, "Babe, why you with me? Why do you love. me? I want to know." If you didn't. already tell me, I just want to know and. then tell me again. Remind me cuz I'm. going to remind you I love you. >> Angel, you not. >> what? >> Why I got to Why do I have to remind. you? >> Reminders are good. >> He done reminded you he with you. >> Ain't that reminder? everything he wakes. up with you. >> That's nice. But if we've been together. years and I just want to know like, "Hey, why you love me still?".

>> I don't like And it's not like. >> because you haven't asked me for one of. those expensive vacations in a long. time. [laughter]. >> No. >> With the prenup. >> Oh, yeah. >> You're like, "Okay, yours is yours. What. we accumulate together, okay, we we. divide that up." But you see a lot of. times that that that. sometimes the one waits until the eenth. minute and try to put pressure on the. wedding is a week away and we still. haven't agreed to anything. >> and the wedding gets called off. It gets.

postponed. >> So So what are your thoughts? >> I mean I think those conversations are. important in the beginning. Like you. know you want to walk into a marriage, >> what do you you know I feel like asking. your partner like what do you think. about the prenup? How do you want to do. it? And if y'all don't agree that's kind. of it's important. >> Do what are we doing? >> Yeah. Cuz don't you I mean I I would I. would assume now Angela you're dating. with the intent I mean I could be wrong. and and if I'm wrong correct me but I. think at this juncture I think a lot of. times you're probably dating with the. intent to be married. Correct. >> 100%. I have no time for games. >> Okay. >> Date to marry.

>> Yeah. So see if they if they ain't come. if they ain't coming correct you're like. okay you ain't going to waste time. >> We wasting time. >> We wasting time. >> I would just say forget it. No point. Like we have to be on the same page. whatever that is. And I also believe in. meeting in the middle middle like okay. what is your middle? What's my middle? Where do where are we comfortable with. it? We love each other this much. We. want to do it. Like what is it? So it's. just figuring out what that looks like. I'mma figure it out kind of like gal. Like. >> are you going to figure it out on the. move or we we going to figure out before. we go any further? We figure it out. right now. [laughter]. >> No, we need to figure it out before we.

go any further. We not going to wait. till later and then I'm too far in. >> But we figuring it out. >> N. >> We can't figure I can't figure it out. unless we move. >> Figure it out. Not ing. Let's figure it. out. >> No, we fig we figured it out. We. driving. Figured it out. We ain't. stationary. >> All right. Well, time to sign them papers. Don't change. your mind. Whatever we decided on, that's what we decided on. >> Okay. How soon before someone gets to. meet your dad? >> H I like to tell my dad like when I. really feel like, oh no, I'm falling in.

love. Let me go ahead and tell my dad. I'm I'm falling for this person or I. like them or loved them already. Then. I give it a little time. It depends. Like if I'm already in the relationship. with you two months, 3 months, four. months, it depends how serious it gets, >> right? >> Like or if you were somebody that's been. around my dad kind of knows about, then. I'll be like, "Look, dad, like I'm I'm. feeling him." Like I'll just like let. him know and then you know when time. permits. >> Have your dad have you ever been in a. relationship your dad like I ain't. really feeling him like that baby?

>> Ah like my dad's so cool. Like he always. is like. >> he let you figure it out, huh? or he'll. ask me about the person and I'll give. him information or I'll ask him his. opinion on stuff, but he's never like. pushed me away from what I want. He's. like his biggest thing and my dad will. write me this many times. Are you happy? Like you know what I mean? Like that's. his biggest [clears throat] thing is. making sure that I'm happy. So if I'm. happy in it and he feels like I'm good, then there's nothing else that he wants. more than that. >> Do you think your dad has a favorite of. the ex you dated? >> He doesn't he hasn't quite said, but I.

I'm sure you have an indication. Sure. Everyone has their favorites, >> right? >> Would you shoot a shot at a man. >> or the man has to come to you? >> What kind of shot? >> I mean, you trying to h I mean, you let. it be known that you trying to holl at. him. >> or does it or are you old school like, "Hey, no, no, you come to me.". >> I'm not against non-traditional ways of. having a conversation. If I think the. guy's interesting and I like him, I may. like give hints. >> Okay. What kind of hits you giving? I. mean, you doing I mean, considering I. mean, you tried to shoot shot, you've.

been bothered this hair all day. >> No. >> Yeah. [laughter] You've been bothered. this hair all day. So, so what kind of I. mean, you like. >> you. >> um light suggestions like maybe we. should go do dinner or something or. maybe we should meet up or let's, you. know, connect or something. >> You hear that guy? That's And so if you. say, "Hey, maybe we should.". >> I said light cuz like if you're not if. you're not feeling it, cool. I ain't. impressed. Move on. But I'm not also not. I prefer not to. I would rather the man. be the man, but I'm not against like if.

I think that the guy's like, you know, interesting. >> I think there might be something to it. >> Yeah. Like let's let's meet up cuz maybe. we meet up and I don't even like you. >> But but you do know like sometimes like. you are Angela Simmons and and sometimes. guys might be intimidated by who you. are. >> Really? I've heard this stuff. >> Yeah. >> So what? Like. >> it's not it's not I mean I don't think. it's as easy as people think. I mean. everybody's like well I just shoot. No. I mean sometimes you're like damn I mean. what uh what what hey hey what's what.

>> you know [laughter] get out of my face. you don't know my name let's talk about. what's your name. >> sometimes I pull to act like they don't. know who I am and you like oh. >> and that's okay I mean I I'm if you. don't know me you don't know me I don't. necessarily think everyone knows me I. don't walk around like you must know who. I am you might not [laughter]. >> so but but do you play you play along. with it like oh I'm Angela how are you. doing. >> yeah I'm always introduced myself, >> right? >> But I always do that anyway. And people. like, "Oh, >> we know exactly like, but I'm just. telling you my name just in case you. don't know.". >> I'm not arrogant enough to believe that.

everybody does know who I am. >> Yes, I am. I'm going to tell you my. name. >> Yes. Every time. >> See, I see. I like that. Uh [laughter]. the tr um I read somewhere that I think. it's like maybe it was 50 65%. that women in a relationship still have. a backup man or a backup plan. I don't. always have a backup plan. I don't think. that's always true. I have heard of. that. I think in the back of some. women's mind, they like, "If this don't. work, I might go,". >> well, it ain't going to work. You. already think about it. It ain't going.

to work. >> But for me, like when I'm in, baby in. locked in, not even looking left or. right. I don't even think nobody cute. I. don't want to. >> I'm just going to stay right here so. that I'm focused on my. >> You all about your man then, huh? Huh? You all about your man at that point? >> 100%. I'm locked in. >> Okay. I I like that. If you're dating, where are you on. dating men with kids? You cool with. that? No, >> I don't I don't I'm not against it. I'm. a woman with a child, too. You know what. I mean? Like, but I never been against. it. Even like prior to having kids, if.

somebody had a kid, I was not like, "No, I'm just big on as long as everything's. am, you know, do good in your area and. life with you.". >> So, you worried about the baby mama? How. beat? >> I don't want drama. [laughter] Too old. for drama. Keep it away. Right? >> If you got a bay mama that thinks she's. your girlfriend still or whatever your m. let's not. >> but but no baby it's not like that. I. I've tried to tell her that we've moved. on. We've got to raise this child. together and somehow she you know. >> why is she not getting the memo though.

>> but I mean you know some and it's not. just baby mama. So uh uh excuse me. It's. just not the women co-parent because I. don't want to be, you know, convenient. You say, but sometimes, you know, it's. hard when you love somebody. When you. love somebody, you know, it's it's hard. to let go. Even even when they say, I. don't want to be in this relationship. anymore. See, relationships are easy to. end if you're the one that's e ending. the relationship. >> It's never easy for the person that's. getting broken up with.

>> That could be true. So, you know, somebody's like, I want to move in a. different direction. I don't like Yeah. And they still hold. It's hard. >> And then I got I got this I know for one. for 1,000% certain. I've got this. attachment with you forever, but I know. I'm going to be in your life for the. next 18 years. I know that 1,000%. >> That's a real thing with the kids. Yeah. >> So, >> but it got to be healthy. Like, there's. still ways to handle it. Like even if.

your partner still wants to be with you, >> it's like what's the healthy way to make. sure that even if they have their thing, like you still got to handle them a. certain way so that they understand I'm. not playing. >> I let you see the kid. >> Huh? >> I ain't going to let you see the kid. >> That's you either see me, you see me, you don't. >> I can't do that. It's court. >> Okay, >> take it to the court. >> The thing is about court. Court are very. lenient when it comes to women. Sometimes I know. >> they they they the guy they knock fire.

from you. The ladies, >> oh we don't want we don't want to take. the child from its mother. We don't want. the the child to see his mother being. locked up. What about dad? You don't. want the child you want the child to see. dad locked up. >> No, this is it's too deep. [laughter]. That's too deep. It can't go. I don't. know. I just don't like drama. To me, have that in order. You you got to. figure out the order. You can't date. So. come before before they before they even. step the hey make sure baby m anything. your co-arent make sure it's it's is. it's co-parenting you doing what's in.

the best interest for the child and. there ain't no situation where you going. over there spending the night and and. she she's under the she's under the. impression that there's a chance or a. likelihood you two can get back together. >> can't be no impression that's crazy you. can't date me and still have your baby. mom thinking just an impression that we. about to be together that does not make. sense no. >> then you should just be alone or figure. or somebody who's cool with that. I. wouldn't do that. >> Okay. >> Did you see Nikki Glazia? She was on a. uh Caller Daddy. >> Hm. >> Nikki Glazier, the uh comedian.

>> No, I didn't see it. >> She said uh she likes to see her man. have sex with other women. As long as. there's not an emotional connection. Don't be sitting there talking about, you know, blah blah blah. Getting. emotionally connected. But, you know, you want to. >> That sounds crazy. >> I'm just saying. >> I don't know about that. >> She said it. I don't know. >> Hey, >> but some women, but you know, some. people have that type of relationship. >> That's far out for me. [laughter] I. don't know about that. >> Oh, you you still on the traditional.

It's me and you, baby. >> I told you old school romance over here. >> I [clears throat] mean, that's crazy. If. somebody would have said that she was. like that, I wouldn't have believed it. But hearing it come out of her own. mouth, >> it's different. >> I was like, wow. I was like, and when. you hear people like, oh, they're like. that. They, you know, they blow wrote. and this and you know, you like, man, ain't nobody really like ain't nobody f. to let their wife or their husband. engage in something and they watch. I. said, ain't nobody doing that. But to.

hear it, >> people into different type of stuff, though. I mean, and you got to find your. person that's into it with you. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't get too weird. No, [laughter]. >> that's wild. Uh again, you say your son, how long are. you in a relationship before someone. actually get an opportunity to meet your. son? Y'all go to dinner, y'all go to. Dave and Busters or you do something fun. like that. How long are you into that. relationship? >> I mean, I don't I've realized that I. don't think it's always a specific time.

It's more about where I'm at with the. person, right? If my son sees me on the. phone 24/7 with this person, FaceTiming, flying out to see the where you go and. he's at. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You hop. you you fly? >> Yeah, I get on a plane. >> Dang. IF I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP. >> DAMN. [screaming]. >> If I'm in a relationship. >> No, I'm saying so let's just say he's in. California and y'all y'all talking blah. blah blah. But you're not in a. relationship yet. >> You hop on you hop on a plane to go see. him. >> If we already I mean if we're not in a. relationship but we're dating. >> We talking. Yeah. We talking like, "Hey,

hey, why don't you come Hey, won't you. Hey, let's just say somebody comes in. town. You're out with your girls and he. pull up. You just got to pull up at the. spot like, "Hey, how you doing?" Such. and such. My name is My name is uh uh. Bruce. Let's go with Bruce. Bruce. Okay, Bruce. [laughter]. >> Hey, you know my name is Bruce. What you. do, Bruce? What? You know, I'm I'm in uh. [snorts] I'm in technology, so forth and. so on. I'm in Silicon Valley, blah, blah, blah. Um what's your name? Oh, your name. What's your name? >> Angela. >> Angela. Hey, what do you do? Angela?

>> No, I'm a fashion designer. >> Okay. You're a fashion designer. You. have any kids? >> I have one. [clears throat]. >> Oh, okay. I like you. I like your smile. >> Thank you. My smile. >> I would like to get to know you better. I'm only in town for a couple of days, but I was wondering if you'd be. interested in coming to Cali to holl at. your boy. >> No, we can start here. [laughter]. >> I'M [screaming] LIKE JUMPING ON THE. PLANE THAT QUICK. >> NO, >> but I'm talking. >> BRUCE, YOU TRIPPING. >> NO, ANGEL, I'M TALKING. BUT I CAN'T. WE'RE not going to talk the whole night. I want to GET TO KNOW YOU BETTER. >> BRUCE, YOU better fly back to Miami.

first and take me out here and then I'll. decide if I'm comfortable enough to. decide to do to go anywhere else with. you. >> So, he needs to come back. take you out. Y'all go out. Y'all go out to a nice. dinner. You go out to uh Prime. Is that. live? Is it live or Prime? What's What's. the nice place here that people be. going? >> I haven't been to Prime in Dma. Um we. can do. >> We come to Lev. We going to come to 11. You want to come to Le? >> That's a club though. We got to be. >> Okay. No, we got to go. No, no. We got. to go. You go to a restaurant. We got to. go nice cuz I got to be able to hear. you. I can't be Hey, hey, you you you.

like this place? How long you lived in? I can't be yelling scream. Kasa. Um, >> okay. >> We can do Kasa Neweva. We There's a lot. of places. >> Okay. We There are nice lot of. >> We go to a really nice restaurant. >> Okay. We go to a really nice restaurant. Sit across. Am I sitting across from you. or you sitting next to me? >> You should definitely sit across from. me. I don't know you. >> Okay. Okay. >> Bruce had to sit across. I just met. Bruce. >> Okay. Damn, >> Bruce. Damn. This ain't this ain't going. quite the way Bruce. >> Okay. Big big Bruce sit over there.

BRUCE GOT TO SIT ACROSS. >> OKAY. I'm sitting across from you and. I'm getting to say, you know what? I. really I I really like I really enjoy. talking to you. I think we have a lot in. common. I think um um it would be really. nice if you know I came back to see you. I would really like for you to come see. me see me in my natural habitat as I saw. you in yours and uh and see if this is. something that you know we both can be. amendable to and see see where it goes. from there. >> Right. So Bruce, I think we should. continue to talk on the phone and stuff. and see like what the vibes are. This. dinner's been great and all, but I'm not.

sure that I want to fly to California. yet. Okay. >> Eventually, though, but just maybe not. yet. >> God dang. >> What's wrong? We just The dinner's just. begun. >> No, but I I I I just I flew out here. last week. Now, granted, I happened to. that was happen stance that I ran into. you with with your girls, but then I. just flew I turned around and flew back. the very following week from California. to come back on a very special trip just. to see Angela. Bruce, you got to go with. the flow. You doing too much, Bruce. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. [laughter].

So, how how many times would would Bruce. need to come back to convince you to. make you feel comfortable? And then are. you does Bruce need to get you a hotel. or are you staying with him? >> I'm staying where I live. >> You don't live in Cali, do you? >> Oh, you mean when I pull up there? No, I'm hotel for sure. Yeah, I'm not coming. to the house, Bruce. >> Okay. Okay. >> Bruce got to put me I'm in a hotel for. sure. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm just. checking. Do you ever get nervous of of of meeting. stalkers or or.

>> had stalkers? >> You've had them? >> Mhm. Pull up, show up to my house like. years ago. Like it was like one guy just. kept showing up. It was pretty creepy. Actually tried to get a restraining. order on him. There's weird people in. the world. >> Really? >> Yeah. I mean, you when you when you hear. stuff like that of like people showing. up and you saw this situation with. Rihanna and and and ASAP or you see. people like and you hear like people. trying to jump the fence and you Chris. Brown having I'm like.

>> people are really sick. Like. >> I had something like that happen even in. Florida one time. I was on a beach and. there's a guy who always writes in my. DMs to me and that day just happened to. be a random day. I was like running on. the beach and I'm like that look like. the dude. I'm like far down the beach. and I see him and it's the dude from my. Instagram on the beach. >> Did he know you were there? >> I didn't even post I was there that day. like at all and he started walking up on. me. I had to go get with a stranger, go. to the cops. Like it was a whole thing. but it happens and it's happened more. than once to me before. It's definitely.

a interesting scary thing. >> Have you thought about the ideal way. someone could propose to you? I mean, do. you have an idea in your head of what. it's like? Or are you in a foreign. country or does he have the rose petals. or does he is he at an a big event or is. your family involved? Have you thought. that far in advance how you would like. to get that question pop? >> I don't see the thing is like if I'm. that in love, I really it could be. intimate moment. It can be a big moment. in my fairy tale head like I like big. like in the sky and like I want it big.

You know what I mean? I of course I. would want my family to know my dad to. be a part of knowing that you're. >> No, I'm already I'm going to ask your. dad. Hey, but he ain't going to be. there. That's going to bring [laughter]. >> Bruce. >> I'm just I'm just saying I've I've. already I've already got his blessing. >> Okay. So, you got the blessing. >> I got the blessing. >> But I would say like I just. >> I would be like ideally I love the. beach. >> Okay. And I like roses or rose petals.

and fireworks. And. >> would you want your son to be there? >> Oh, that would be cute. >> See, >> I would be open to it. I'm really like. not just the idea of being proposed to. like by someone I love to me like this. like more than enough. Like so like. however they do it like. >> so just let's say for. >> and then the wedding could be fired. >> Say for the sake of argument you guys at. the beach, you know, and. your son is dressed like him. A. >> got a little linen pants rolled up. He's. barefooted. >> Got a little linen shirt on.

>> Yeah. >> And he walks out. He like, "Hey." Like, "What are you doing here?" "Hey, mom.". >> And you know, just a little chitchat. >> And then all of a sudden, he's down on one knee. >> A I cry. I'm crybaby when it comes to. stuff like [laughter] that. Romance.com. It's so cute. >> Especially involving my son. That's. important to me. like my son being a. part of it and. >> whoever I'm with being like a part of my. son's life that's like very important to. me.

>> Did you see uh the man the random man. proposing to Kiki Palmer? Have you have. you ever been I mean have you ever been. proposed to and said no? >> No. I've been proposed to like and I did. not say no. It was really cute. >> Would you say no? >> I don't have to. I mean I hope whoever's. trying to marry me know that I want to. marry them. If I don't I don't. [laughter] let's not get there. I don't. want to be the one to be like, "Ah, let's discuss later.". >> Unfortunately, y'all and and and you you.

can say, "No, you don't want to talk. about this." But you've been in. relationships that that were that were. abusive. Um how do how do how do you. know and it's easy to say. >> just leave the man? Yeah. The man put. his hands on you, leave the first time. How difficult is it to be in a. relationship. >> that's not beneficial? that's become. verbally, physically abusive and to just. leave after the first because I've heard. women say, "That's the first time I did. something. I provoked it and I've never. seen that side of him again and I don't.

expect to see it again." And then. >> whether it's a week, a year, a month, or. however long it's been, it happens. again. >> I think you just wind up in like that. situation. It's something that you can't. you just don't know. like you you look. up and starts maybe slow and then it. kind of progressively gets like becomes. more and more and more and it's it's a. scary place to be in I think for a woman. I think I know for a woman because a man. the man that you trust and then the idea. of them either hitting you throwing.

things at you yelling at you it's a very. scary place to be um dealing with that. and going through that and have been. through that in my life was I I was like. this feels like surreal feel like I. can't even imagine like how I'm dealing. with it. But it changes you and it it's. just so much about that. Like I think I. I've done so much therapy behind that. stuff that I probably don't even the way. I process it now is so different, right? because I went through it and then I. came through it and I had conversations.

with therapists in life and. >> it helped me process what was going on. and you know not to blame myself and. like just there's so many like. >> things you have to go through to get. through what that even feels like but I. think what happens with women is. >> you don't want to leave the person you. love the person right so you're like but. that's just a different side to them. maybe and you hope it doesn't come back. out like you said and sometimes it does. and then you're like okay it's the. second time and this third time and at. some point you have to say you know what.

>> enough's enough and I have to get out of. this and it's not healthy for me. I. think sometimes women say because they. have kids or they don't have a way out. or they don't have the means or finances. to get out so. >> they stay but it's it's a very tough. place to be in. Yeah. >> Are there signs that you've been in a. abusive relationship before? Are they. signs that you look for say yeah I see. where this is going now. I'm out of. here. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean sometimes the men are. overcontrolling or. um I think the first time like a man.

gets out of control like his anger. When. a man can't control his anger, that's. when you know like it can get to that. point or get to that level, you know? So, >> but I feel like you see the red flags or. you see the signs and maybe you may. ignore them until it gets to that moment. and you're like, you know what, >> I knew this could happen. But. >> you know what? Women have attacked you. on social media. How do you learn not to. let their comments get to you? Because. it's it's it's tough because you're. like, "Bro, I I would like to think that.

we're in the same we're in the same, but. we're women. We should probably be stick. together. We should probably be united. in in in in one front, but probably more. women attack you than men. >> It's It's so disgusting actually. But I. have learned to just not care. I don't. It's such a strong I don't care." And I. I learned it early on because I dealt. with so many people's opinions for so. long that I got to a point where it used. to bother me when I was young and got to. think cuz I was 17 going on TV and that.

was the era of the paparazzi. So they're. catching all the bad angles of you and. they're posting it and everyone had. their opinions then and I was like this. is affecting me. You know what I mean? But I just started to gain the. confidence to say you know what I don't. care and I I just stand by it. I let. people say what they say and I'm like. block, delete, shut up. You don't you. know I mean like to me you're not you. don't matter to me, >> right? you know. >> what what is it about that that people. think. I mean and I don't think people would. say if they saw you on the street I.

think the people that post comments. >> uh. >> I don't think they would say that to you. if they saw you in in person. >> cuz a lot of a lot of comments that I. get um yeah you know everybody have. courage have Twitter muscles uh and and. and and [clears throat] big strong. thumbs. >> literally. >> it's just hard for me to believe that. some of the things that get said to me. on social media that they saw me in. person, they would say it to my face. >> They ain't gonna say it. Most of the. time they won't. >> And I'm and I'm just like I'm just like, you don't even know me. I mean, and you.

know, and sometimes I think they're. they're like they want to get a. response. They're kind of rage bait or. they're trying to get other people on. their side. They try like, "Okay, >> that's stupid.". >> Yeah. >> Like I don't I I honestly am a blocker. and a deleter. That's what I [laughter]. do. I see a comment. This is stupid. Sometimes I want to respond, but I'm. like it's not even worth it. You are a. waste of my my time. like I have better. things to be doing than to responding to. negative negativity. >> Right. You you've been in a situation. you've been in the public eye for a very. very long time now and you've had you. haven't had any surgeries and based on.

comments because every I mean like I. said social media is. >> a beast. >> You you you you fat, you ugly, you need. to do this, you need to do that. And. then and people sometimes succumb to. that and the first thing they say I. don't know why you got surgery. >> after you was probably the one in my. comments talking about you need to go. nip and tuck that or you need to do Like. what? You You told me to go do this and. now I did it and you like that was dumb. Should have left it alone. >> How How have you been able to like drown. out all that noise and like I love me. You might not love me might love me or.

how I look or how I'm shaped or whatever. the case may be, but I love me and I'm. not going to let what you have to say. influence what I'm going to do with my. body. >> Yeah. To me, it's my world and you're. living in it. If you're on my page, right? Like you're following what I'm. doing, then that means you're here. But. I'm me and I love me and I know what I'm. doing with me but you don't like it. But. that don't matter to me. Correct. You. know I mean you here today gone. tomorrow. If I was gone tomorrow then. it's oh what a good person. You know. mean? So it's like it don't matter what. comes out of someone else's mouth to me. Like if it's negative.

>> y'all could have that. I know I am. strongly sure of who I am. So I don't. need them to tell me who I am or tell me. what I look like. Yeah. If I gain. weight, I know I gain weight. If I lost. weight, I know I lost weight. If I put. on muscle, I know I got muscle. You. know, like so it's like you don't have. to tell me nothing. I don't I don't just. don't engage in it. >> You ain't gonna do that Zimpic, is it? >> Huh? >> You ain't gonna do that Zimpic, Ellie. >> You talking about Zimpic? >> Yeah. >> I mean, I had done um GPL ones before. >> Why? >> Cuz I wanted to. Cuz I wanted to see um.

like how much weight I would lose. And I. >> Did you lose as much as you thought or. more? >> Like 20 lbs in like two or three months. >> 20? >> Yeah, it was at least 20. >> Good god. And then I was like, "Okay, I. WANT MY THICKNESS BACK." I WAS LIKE, "I'm no because I work out a lot, right? So for me, just I want to be to be able. to keep muscle mass and stuff." And I. was realizing I'm working out and. lifting weights, but I'm not seeing the. results I want. So. >> you do realize that being a vegan is not. going to help you eat muscle because you.

need protein, animal protein to build. >> I don't want it. >> You just said you want, >> but I don't want the meat. >> How you going to get the. >> I've ate meat before and I still didn't. have, so it's okay. I mean, >> you do realize is that the texture of. your muscle, the density, the oomph of. your muscle comes from eating. You know, that's when humans really started to. evolve when they started eating meat. >> Protein. Yeah. >> Yeah. You do you realize that, right? >> I do. >> And you know, animal protein is. different than plant-based protein. >> I know it's two different things.

>> Yes. >> But I'm I just like how I eat right now. >> But you just said you wanted your. thickness in your curtain. >> No, I got it. I'm good. I'm back. [laughter]. >> How about this business? What have you. learned about business? You've been a. businesswoman, like you said, since you. were 17, 18. Very few people are in. business as long as you've been in. business. >> Yeah, I would say it's forever evolving. Like, and that for me, I've just I've. learned so much from the the first. business my sister and I started to the.

ones that I've started to what I've. seen, it's just forever evolving. And. it's important to stay up to date with. what's happening and be around people. that know more than you. My biggest. thing is like I like getting information. from people who have successfully done. things like okay so what can I do here. like when it comes to even like. resources in my family does this make. sense how do I do this how do I pivot. does this not make sense like but also. being okay with not you know some people. think you get into business tomorrow. this is going to be how you want it to. be it don't work like that you got to. stay in that thing you got to push you.

got to keep moving so being being your. number one biggest fan right and pushing. it cuz everyone's not going to believe. in you every day and you you obviously. having the right crew around you that. will uplift you, but you got to believe. in yourself and push yourself. >> What What advice did you wish you had or. knew before you even got into a. business? >> What advice? I think what I would have wanted to know. is the difference between licensing and. owning in the beginning.

>> when it came to that that world. I. didn't know cuz I was like so young, but. I learned and I'm like, "Okay, now I. know the difference between owning. something outright and I was so young at. the time and a license, >> licing it out to someone else.". >> Exactly. >> Oh, you did business uh with [ __ ]. Vegan Pinky Cole and obviously she had a. little hard time seemingly she's getting. back on her feet. What did you learn. from that situation? >> From which part? What situation? her. >> yeah her you know I mean cuz at the peak. like during co.

>> her restaurants man I mean what did she. have like. >> she expanded really quickly um. >> did that's what you think it was she. expanded too quickly. >> I don't think nothing's too quickly I. think it's just about you know sometimes. it could be team it can be who you have. around it can be how it's being managed. there's so many things that go into. running a business and I think that she. still successfully like. >> is moving and doing what she needs to do. some people you know that may happen. they be like they give up, they stop. And then that's the problem. Never give. up to keep going. And Pinky is a.

businesswoman and she she still pushing, moving, got got her stuff going. I mean, I don't I think she's learning as she. goes like everyone else. >> What about the Oreo bathtub situation? >> You [laughter] got I mean or or O or O. or O or O or O or O or O or O or O or O. or Oreo like yeah, we cool with it. I. mean, everybody, but why I'm trying to. figure out when did when did people. become so invested. >> in other people's lives? Was it always. like May maybe. >> I was just promoting my cakes, Angela's. cakes, so I didn't understand, you know,

what the big deal. I mean, I it was I. guess it was interesting. I was in a tub. with Oreos. >> Yeah. >> But. >> how many bags of Oreos was it? >> That's a real good question. Cle, how. many bags was that? >> You remember? >> 40 50. >> You remember? And first of all, it was. heavy. >> Like I was actually in Oreos. >> Yeah. >> And I was like stood up. It was a whole. thing. I was like, "Help me up. >> It's got to be more. I think I bought. 80. >> I was going to say, yeah, it. >> and we might have only not used 10, like.

eight or 10 of them. I was in there for. fried Oreos. >> Our fried Oreos with with uh [ __ ]. Vegan. Yeah. >> You like fried Oreos? >> I do, actually. Yeah, I do. The first time I had them. was at Prime in Miami, actually. >> Really? Yeah, they're good. >> Oo, they're really good. >> Just like just right. >> My mom used to work at Nabiscoco, so. I done ate so many chips. Soy [laughter]. her Oreos. >> You cookie out. >> Yes. Uh uh Ritz crackers. >> Stop it. >> Big Newton. >> Oh, you had it all.

>> That's [laughter] kind of cool. >> Yeah. But I like I like fried. But were. you surprised at the backlash that you. received for that? >> Um. >> or are you not surprised at anything. now? I think you're are you to the point. now that whatever you do, you realize. that you know what? 50 Cent said something very interesting. He said, "Look, no matter what you feel. about something, somebody is going to be. vehemently opposed to how you feel about. that.". >> It's true, though. I think people have. their own opinions, and I've learned to.

just like let it ride. Like, that's how. you feel. Either I'm sorry for you or. great, we we both are agree, >> right? >> Um, investments. I mean, everybody says, you know what, the best investment now is better than. the S&P is Hermes bags. >> Oh, Hermes. Yes. You you Hermes girl. >> I like Hermes. We love Hermes. >> We do. Oh, you do? >> We women love Hermes. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> But how many is enough? >> I mean, it's like owning property and.

you watch and look at all your property. in your closet. >> So, obviously, you probably start out. You got what? They got the little mini. Kelly now. >> I think they got a what? A Kelly 30. >> I seen you had some Hermes when I walked. in and had Whoa. This ain't about me. I. you. don't worry about what I got over here. if it's. >> like you know about them bags. >> But I'm saying you got a little You got. the little mini. I'm talking about a. little little mini like this here. >> Mini Kelly's. >> mini Kelly. Now what? They got a 25 30. >> the 25 the Don't give me line all the. sizes but. >> but I I mean now and so you look at it.

like you trying to get the Himalaya. >> I have one of them Himalayas. Yeah. >> You got one. >> the Yeah. Well, yeah. Happy B. >> Will you stop? >> God dang. >> Will you stop? >> You got a. >> Yeah, I posted it. I got it for my. birthday. >> But not under the glasses looking at me. >> I know. I I I know he's still in THE. PICTURE. I KNOW HE going to Ain't no way.

we forever till THEY'LL DO OUR PART. I. SPENT street 4005. Ain't nobody going. nowhere. I'm sleeping on the couch. Baby, you have a bedroom until we figure. this out. >> Not until we figure it out. >> Yeah, man. That kind of money, Angela. >> What? >> You say you got it for You said you got. it, which means you not with the person. that Oh. Oh. Oh, Lord. I'm sick. >> Not you falling out. >> Oh, I'm sick. >> Ah, Angela. Really, Angela? >> Yeah.

>> You can leave somebody that got you that. kind of that gave you that kind of gift. And if he got you that kind of gift, I. hate to see I I I can just imagine the. kind of gift that he got led that led up. to that. You're too funny. [laughter]. >> Angela, you better go get him back. >> Don't you let nobody get that bad that. bad. >> Not looking around like that. >> You don't think that's odd?

>> What? What's odd? and and and he got you. a Himalayan. That ain't the first Birkin. he bought. I know a thing or two about. men. >> Well, >> when they get when they when they go to. that level, they get to that level right. there. There's the steps of [laughter]. you know. >> how many steps are they in between? >> They're probably about three or four. >> Three or four till you get to that one. >> Get to that one. >> He started the. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You probably start the. plane this the the uh. >> Kelly the. >> Yeah. Kelly. >> and then you know you got little little.

men in then you go to the 30 and then. you start getting to the skins. Maybe. it's ostrich, maybe it's crop. >> Uhhuh. >> But then when you get to the big boy, that's when you step into the house with. both feet. [laughter]. >> I mean, yeah, they're great bags. >> Yeah. Go on and get him back. >> You going to get it back? Mhm. [clears throat]. It won't be long. Hey, bro. >> What is going on? No. Stop. >> What you mean no? Nobody go get that man.

back. [laughter]. >> I ain't nobody had to go do go be better. than than than him to you getting all. that stuff. And and Birkens. So that. mean he done brought jewelry. He don't. cuz cuz for you like. earlier we were talking about you know. you like flowers, you know, you like you. know go. >> Yes. >> Yeah. We like thoughtfulness. >> He thoughtful. >> Yeah. >> Really in depth. I could see that. >> I can see. No, no, no. You saw that. He. was see it. You saw it. I can see it.

[laughter]. >> You saw it. >> You are crazy. >> Acting. >> Yeah. >> You're an episode of The Gang with. Lauren London. How was that? >> I saw that. Okay. >> Love it. It. >> is that what you want to do? You like to. do acting? >> I like acting. I can act. Yeah, acting. is um I did I actually filmed something. I did a cameo this year that should be. coming out. I like acting. And. naturally, like it just it's in me. >> You want to do more? You want to do more. acting? >> I definitely want to do more acting. >> Have you turned down any opportunities?

>> No, I don't turn down opportunities to. act. Not at all. I have a coach and you. know, when I do something, I like to do. it. Do it. Do it. Right. Right. >> Yeah. >> This video with you boxing Brandy, what's your relationship with Brandy? Cuz she back she back. What? I mean, she. just wrote a memoir and um you know, I. haven't read it. I'm I'm looking I'm I'm. I'm gonna thumb through it. I want to. see uh cuz look, we grew up with Brandy. I mean, she burst on the scene. I think. he was like 15, 16 years of age and here. she is this, you know, had this had this.

unbelievable career and she says some. things. I think, you know, people are. kind of upset with what she said. But. that's her life. That's her experience. How do you get to tell somebody uh uh. what they experienced or what they. didn't experience when you didn't go. through that experience? >> Yeah. I mean, I think everyone's story. is their own like story and it's their. unique story or what everybody's been. through. Um, Brandy I met a while back. and we actually did Bondover boxing in. New York and we started she would come. and box with me in New York and that was. so long ago like we used to actually box.

together so that was fun. My hair. stylist Nick um actually does her hair. as well so it's a small world. >> right? >> What do people get wrong about Brandy? Because like you have a very intimate. relation you have a very different. relationship with her. >> Well I wouldn't say we're super close. right now but I've I've been around her. numerous times. Yeah. >> Now you're into the music business. >> Yeah. >> Are you going to be in front of the. microphone? You want to be producer? You. want to be what? So what what what.

>> I am a a woman that wears many hats, but. um I am signed to Rough Riders actually. And the single I just put out, we I did. a deal with them. So, I will be writing, I will be creating, I will be producing, but I also am bringing on I I like to. bring on the team that can help me like. navigate everything. I believe in. creative vision, but I have some really. dope, incredible people behind me down. to the producers and everything that I'm. working on. >> I don't know if you noticed, but you was. in a situation where you had a guy, he.

had a little music company. >> A what? >> He had a music company. >> I'm hope I play with you. >> I'm just saying. I'm just saying. >> But I am me, too. And I've been doing. these things and I'm born into music as. well. >> I know you are. >> Yeah. >> But I mean, you had a guy one of the. hottest. I mean, >> are you trying to put me back with him? >> I ain't trying to do nothing. I'm. minding I'm minding my black business. >> Not my black business. >> That's what I do. >> I I'm Yeah, [laughter]. >> y'all going to be back together. Watch. >> What is this? Am I Is this a joke? [laughter]. >> I give it to April.

next five cent month. Where you get this. number from? >> It's an arbitrary number, but I just. feel it. >> That's what you feel for me sitting here. >> because I met him one time. I met him. when I sat down with Glow. >> I feel like we go together. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, look, I've had peanut. butter sandwiches. I've had jelly. sandwiches, but I think they're just. better together. >> Peanut butter and jelly. That's what. we're going with. >> Fala, save me. >> Nope.

>> Nope. [laughter]. >> She can't. She can't. Please. >> You said in the music thing you wear. many hats. You like to write, you like. produce, you like to, you know, sing. Um, >> well, I'm not singing. I am actually I'm. I would say doing spoken word. >> Spoken word. Oh, >> did have you heard my song? >> I haven't. I'm going to play that. I'm. go I'mma go listen to it. >> So, you're a spoken word type of girl. >> We should play that for you. We need to. play it. >> Okay. >> Let me get my phone. I'mma let you hear. a little bit of it. You got to hear what.

I'm doing. You can't even properly ask. me. We We had a You ain't seen my video. or nothing. >> No. How long has it been out? >> Since March 13th. >> It ain't even been a month. >> Oh, you got to make. >> it feel like it been out for like years. >> So, here it is. This me. >> Okay, that's you. >> And we going to give you a little tester. right on here. >> Ready? You go. You need a place to run. Talk to me.

So that's. >> Reza. next. [singing]. >> You ain't going to get our this show. copyrighted, are you? This you, right? >> That's mine. >> Okay. Cuz we have to get this cleared. and then you take my whole You know, >> we going to clear it. >> Okay. [laughter]. >> Trying to find which way to go. Do I go left?

Maybe. >> I'm just giving you a flavor. I ain't. going to play the whole thing. But. >> have you ever read the truth? Have you ever read your truth? >> You can't live by. >> It's time to come up. >> Now run to Jada. Kisses part. I got Jada. on the song. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Oh, so you got some heavy hitters on. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, we doing doing music. >> Let me ask you this. How did you decide.

to get into music? >> Um, I went in the studio one day like. two years ago. I actually have 12 songs. I've already recorded and I'm working on. my music project. But I just felt led to. go into the studio and when I went in. there, I went with what the feeling and. how I felt. And like I've been a fan of. music since I was a little girl. Obviously, growing up around it has. impacted me and. >> I just love music. I don't do nothing. without music. Like I like to listen in. the morning, night. Like I. >> So you cooking, you listen to music. You.

taking a shower, you listen to music. You cleaning, you Well, you don't clean. You know, you. >> I mean I like people to help me clean, but lightly cleaning. I listen to music. But I do like I like I love music. Like. music is like a part of everything that. I do. So when I went into the studio, I. just went with the vibes and I was like, "Okay, this is what it is.". >> When your dad would Did your dad wrap. around the house? >> No. But I do remember like going in the. basement and seeing like his turntables, his gold ropes.

>> Like he would always have like the merch. around the house. Like I can think back. like to the. >> You still got those fat chains? >> Those big gold, you know those big gold? >> I haven't seen those, but I used to see. them and put them around my neck and. play with them. Why would you like Why. would I do that? Like I didn't even. realize how cool that was. >> Uh women. Who's your favorite woman's. rapper? >> Ooh. Who do I listen to the most? >> Gorilla. >> I do love Glow. Of course I love Glow. Um yeah, Glo. >> But I um I listen to so many rappers. I. feel like Let me look at who's my last.

You make me think now. I like to pull up. Exact. I have Lotto's new song on here. >> Okay. Big Mama. >> Yeah, I like her. >> Big Mama about to be out of commission. She about to have a baby. >> That's so cute. I love that. Um but I. like I love Cardi. Cardi. >> Oh, that look. >> I love me some Cardi B. >> I need to get Cardi on the show. Cardi, you watching? Come sit down with your. boy. Cardi's dope. >> I love Cardi. But you can't make me hate. Cardi. I love the way she I mean, she's. so animated. She's so real. I just I. just love the way she talk. >> She's a boss. She's a mom. Like, she's.

just so many amazing things. But I. really like Cardi. >> And I heard a concert. She's been doing. really well. >> I'm trying to go. I think she's coming. this week here. >> Oh, really? >> I think so. The 14th or something like. that. >> Uh, who's your favorite R&B artist? >> Ooh, that's tough. I love R&B. >> Yes. >> I'm on LMA on repeat right now. Really? Her lover her album is so like it's like. love. I just love love. >> You went viral for wearing a Yankees. fitty corset. >> Lord,

>> are you surprised now? >> I just didn't think it was that deep. I'm into fashion. So like you know the. stylist Mickey Boom. And I I was like, I. want to look I want this New York like. nostalgic feeling when I shot the video, the music video for a run to. And I was. like, let's think like Tim's hats. And. like he came and he's like, what about. if we do this? And I was like, I love. it. I didn't think it was like crazy. that there was two hats. Like, >> right. >> I just thought it was cool, >> right? >> Cuz I'm creative, so I didn't No, I. didn't think it was a viral moment. When.

when you wear an outfit and you see said. same outfit on the uh on the internet. when somebody else is wearing it, how do. you feel? >> You like, "Yeah, I ain't wearing this no. more.". >> No, I I I don't mind inspiring like. culture or being a part of like fashion. moments and I'm not like looking to do. it. I'm just like naturally being me. You know what I mean? Like I'm just like. cool. Like that's dope. Like if I can. inspire somebody else, I think it's. cool. [laughter]. you mentioned uh what made you decide to.

sign uh to sign to Rough Riders? >> Um so there's a lot of family history. and legacy there and W is family, Janine. is family and I literally went to them. with my record spoke to them and it was. history from there. >> Your brother Diggy and and a lot of. people thought like you know what it. just runs in the family. He's going to. be great. He kind of put it down for a. minute. >> Um some says that hey he might have been. Drake. We never know. Why do you think. he stopped rapping?

>> I think everything is season by season, choice by choice, and everyone has the. right to evolve to whoever they want to. be. So, I don't I wouldn't want to speak. for him. I just think it's just where he. wants to be right now. >> He going to be on your album. >> I don't know. That's a good It's a good. question. When is it dropping? >> I don't have a date yet on that. >> Okay. Who's some some of the people that. that's going to be on there? You. mentioned Jada. Who else? Who are uh who. else is going to be on there? >> So, right now I'm still working on the. project and so I don't have anyone.

necessarily confirmed, but there are. definitely a lot of people I'm in talks. with that should be a part of it will be. part of it. >> Is there uh any surprise guest? You got. so you you don't want to talk about it. just yet till it happens. >> because I don't have the definite like. confirmed locked in. I don't want nobody. like I ain't say that. the Oreo. campaign. Yeah, there was a lot of. backlash, but there was a lot of. support, not only from Oreo, who I. obviously loved it, but there were a lot. of supporters that like, bro, this is. great. We love what you did. >> Well, the good part is is actually.

Angela's cakes right this second is. actually sold out and we're reing up our. inventory. So, we're doing extremely. well. So, it did what it was supposed to. do. Everyone, >> it got [clears throat] people talking. about it. Yep. Taking the date. Yes. >> Wow. >> Miss Angela Simmons, >> thank you. >> Thank you so much. We really appreciate. it. >> Appreciate it. >> Y'all know who it is. It's your favorite. dunk. And I want to thank 11 nightclub. for having us. We could not have done. this without you. So, I appreciate the. last three days and what you've been. able to done. We want to thank your. staff. We want to thank the uh everybody. that was a part of this that made this.

possible. The wonderful Marissa that. brought us the drinks every day that we. came out. So, everybody at 11 nightclub, thank you so much for your hospitality. [music] And everybody at Club Shay wants. to thank you because none of this is. possible without you. So, thank you. guys. We really [music] really. appreciate it and we look forward to. coming back down here and shooting again. with you guys soon. Thank you very much. All [music] my life been grinding all my. [singing] life. Sacrifice, hustle, paid. the price, want a slice, got to roll a. dice. That's why. All my life I've been. grinding all [music and singing] my.

life. All my life been grinding all my. life. Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price. [music] Want a slice. Got to roll the. dice. That's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life.