Afroman Beats $4M Lawsuit, Talks America, "Because I Got High," Soulja Boy & Real Estate

The police raided your home. They broke. your door down. >> They searched the house. They It was no. dungeon. It wasn't no weed. I was. surprised some big bad cops let me see. where it hurt. My answer to them. violating me like that as a rap song. Right. >> You ever seen that movie Lion Hart? >> Yeah. >> Toward the end, Lion Hart was fighting. with them broke ribs and that big dude, he was just bouncing around. He tapped. them ribs like you see. >> So that's where you heard it, huh? All my life been grinding all my life.

Sacrifice, [music] hustle, paid the. price, want a slice, got to roll a dice. That's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life. [music] All my. life been grinding all my life. Sacrifice hustle paid the price. Want a. slice to roll a dice. That's why all. [music] my life I've been grinding all. my life. >> Hello, welcome to another episode of. Club Shay. I am your host Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propritor of Club Shay. We'd first like to thank Barberhop Cuts.

and Cocktails for hosting us today in. Las Vegas. Hidden behind a working. barber shop in the Cosmopolitan, this. speak easy brings live music, great. cocktails, and one of the best nights on. the strip. Now, let's get to today's. episode. Stopping by for conversation on. the drink today is a Grammy nominated. rapper, a multiplatinum selling rapper, a global chart topic artist, a creator. of anthems that stand the test of times. He's a total performer. He's loved by a. devoted fan base worldwide. He dances, plays the drums, plays the guitar. He's. a total musician, an entertainer, and an.

entrepreneur. He's a cultural icon, a. viral sensation, and a fan favorite. He's one of a kind, an American hero. He's a champion of free speech. The. hungry, hustling, American dream. Here. he is, Afroman. Yeah. >> How you like that intro? >> I love it. I love it. You're the first. person to do it right. Besid Besides. myself, I always have to introduce. myself, >> man. You know what? Everybody that comes. on club sh you know I got I you know I. know I already know you put this here. down a little something a little. something man I wish I could have told.

you get some cold 45 [laughter]. >> all that I'mma kick it with you. >> what you thinking um Good. [laughter]. >> Good. You know, I got I got to drink. this slower than I drink Coke 45. You. know [laughter] what I'm saying? >> I appreciate it, man. Thanks for.

stopping by. I see you got you are uh. taking a block off of Don King cuz this. is something that Don King have the. hair, you know, he had his hair out, had. the uh the flag going, >> you know, like I don't know, you know, there's only what I hear and see. >> So, you you don't remember. >> I know Don King and he is. >> cuz he's from Cleveland. He is one of my. inspirations. Like I, you know, some. people hate him, but I love I am the. American dream. Yes. You know, I got. that from him. I got a whole song and I. I I talk about being the American dream,

right? And all this type stuff and and. his vocabulary, right? >> And Yeah. Amen. >> You uh like Chappelle's in Ohio. What is. it? And I think you're originally from. like Hattisburg, right? You're from. >> I'm from LA, but you know, my my people. come up in Alabama, you know, summertime. Okay. Back and forth, you. know, two years here, two years there. >> So, being from LA, what was it about uh. uh Ohio? What was what's the appeal? I'm. trying to figure out what Chappelle cuz. Chappelle I think from New York was in. Hollywood. He said he wanted a nice. quieter life uh to raise a family. What.

was the appeal about Ohio to you that l. that uh that drew you there? >> Uh it was a girl and some cheap lane. [laughter]. I could talk all day, but I guess I'll. go and tell you the truth, >> right? Yeah. >> So, the girl in the cheap land. >> Girl in cheap land. >> Are you still with the girl? >> Uh, yeah. >> But you got Hey, I like how I like how. the uh Facebook say they get. complicated. [laughter]. >> It's complicated. I like that one. That was a nice out. So, have you have you run have you run.

into Chappelle? Have you seen him? >> We we getting close, man. cuz you know. his people is you know knowing my people. and and we and and you know I know he's. up he's up north by Dayton right. >> and I'm I'm out southeast you know okay. by Cincinnati. >> I saw online that you brought purchased. some property 5 acres in Ohio 24,000 and. today it's worth over 300,000 was that. your thought process um because I'm sure. money goes a lot further in Ohio than it. would in LA or a lot of other major. cities.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, my dad taught me how not. to fall in love. >> with a city to the point where it breaks. you financially. >> Oh, >> you know what I'm saying? You know, always preach, don't let a woman break. you and don't let a tourist type. sentimental city break you. >> You know, just, you know, like get what. you need. He say even the animals. migrate. >> True. Very true. >> He said the animals migrate getting a. better life and you standing there like. a fool. You know, it's. >> Yeah. Would you consider that one of.

your better purchases that that that. land that real estate that you was able. to purchase? >> Uh yeah, real estate's always good cuz. you know the the value go up instead of. decrease, >> right? >> So um yeah, it was cheap. You know, coming from LA, >> I never heard of a $50,000. house, you know, just this different. stuff. You know, I got some I got two. places right next to each other. Okay. So, you know, I got But, you know, I. didn't I haven't heard I heard my dad. talk about my grandfather getting land. for that type of stuff,

>> right? >> You know, >> way back when. >> Yeah. Back singing Sam Cook and stuff. like that. Yeah. >> So, I was tripping when I heard them. kind of prices. >> And you like, "Okay, let me let me let. me get a little piece of this right here. and see what's going on.". >> Yeah. >> So, you got a farm? >> Yes. >> Is it is it considered a farm? Do you. have animals? Do you raise animal? Do. you grow your own crops? >> I'm a rapper and I can hide. I do that. I ain't growing nothing, [laughter] you. know. All I want is play my rap music. loud without the police showing up. I. just need some space. So you don't So. you don't have animals. You don't grow. your own fruit food. It's just you just.

have a big piece of real estate. >> Yeah. I don't have time. I be rapping. all the time. I don't got time. >> You said 195 acres. [snorts] You want to. build your own community? >> Yes. Uh um. Afroamericans. I'm going say. afroamerican. I I am of African descent. >> Correct. >> Uh personally, um I feel like we was betrayed and sold. >> Okay. >> To the point where I feel like it's my.

option to patronize. that title or not. All due respect to. him. Uh if something jumped off and all. black people were attacked, I would. stand with him for survival. >> Great. >> Okay. But um I I find a lot of them. arrogant and condescending. and. disrespectful. to afroamericans when they're here on.

the civil rights that our mothers and. fathers and grandfathers fought for. I. just think they ought to be a little bit. more respectful under all the. circumstances under the circumstances. that they betrayed us, backstabbed us, served, sold us, >> and then they're living in America. benefiting off of the civil rights that. >> we fought for. That being said, >> you're talking about white America, correct? >> No, I'm talking about Africa. I'm. talking about. >> Oh, you talking about Africans that came. over, >> right? >> Okay. >> The Africans, they sold us, >> right?

>> They sold us in slavery, >> right? then you know a lot of them are. condescending. >> Okay. >> Disrespectful toward Afroamericans. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. So, that being said, >> I call myself a Afroamerican. >> Okay. >> Not denying I'm I'm a descendant of an. African. >> Okay. >> But just before the betrayal, I call. myself an afroamerican. Now, as an. afroamerican, um I don't believe a community, well,

they have made them in the past, but. they have been destroyed. >> Okay. >> Um there's not necessarily a black. community or a black friendly community. designed by black people for black. people. >> There was there Greenwood in Tulsa. >> Like I said, they tore them down. >> Right. Okay. I see what you said. So. it's like it's not our option right now, right? >> Okay. So now I want to improve on a. >> Greenwood. >> Oh, okay. >> I want to imp.

what is this? 26. >> Yes. >> Okay. Now, uh my quick idea is like, you know, uh. they say we need to pull ourselves up by. our bootstraps. So, you know, whatever. They say the uh the 40 acres in the mule. is the equivalence to the white. American. the fact that we can on. paperwork technically speaking, right, we can do what the white American can. do. We supposed to be equal. That's. supposed to be our 40 acres in the MU, right? Okay. But I I believe that.

American black people need we don't have. we don't have a place to go like you. know there's there's all these things. So anyway, >> I thought about building a city. Not even got to be a city like a town. >> Mhm. Not that I still want access to. neutral America, >> but the afroamerican doesn't really have. a place to go. Now, there there's. another thing. Um I don't you know,

positive black people that don't want. their kids being called the n-word, >> okay? >> Um they don't have a community in my. opinion. like everybody, you know, you. got to get there's no sacred place, >> right, >> to get right. So, I wanted to make one anti-nword. afroamerican community. >> That word bothers you, huh? >> It does. >> Why? >> Well, well, first of all, this here's.

the thing. Here's the thing. It's the most offensive word in the. English language. >> Correct? >> All right. Now, watch this right here. Everybody got freedom of speech. >> You got the right to say it. But in my. life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I got the right to not hear it. >> That being said, now I'm going to be. logical. When I go to Walmart and the. airport, I'm going to know I'm in. neutral territory and I'm not going to. go crazy if I hear it.

>> Right. >> But if I can, there's nothing wrong with. me building a place. >> where you don't have to hear. >> Yes, sir. >> Does it bother you in rap songs? Do you. hear Do you hear it in I mean because. this is in a lot of rap songs. It's in a. lot of lyric a lot of popular rap songs. A lot of. >> it's been going on for years now. >> I don't like it. >> Right. >> Um. uh if I'm a Laker fan, I don't say [ __ ]. the Lakers. [laughter]. >> Okay. >> Right. Uh. >> uh I know some some some do, you know,

like if if I'm a white man, I you know, I don't call myself white trash. Some. dudes might do it and they have a little. ego swag to it, but for the most part, >> you you going to be pro what you are, right? >> So, in my opinion, >> uh I don't believe black people ought to. address each other with the most. offensive word in the English language, encourage other people to join in and do. it all. So, that's my opinion right. >> now. Uh I understand that outside of my. body, the next man is living his life, liberty, and his pursuit of happiness.

So that's why I'm just talking to you, you know, discussing my plans to live in. harmony and around these type of. situations. >> So you you want to establish a. community, not just with family or. friends, but you want it, you want it to. be all-encompasses, anybody that wants. to come and purchase a piece of property. and set up shop, but you want it to be. harmonious. You don't want to, you know, no negativ, you don't want negativity. You don't want use of the n-word. You. want people to prosper and to be happy. >> It's like this right here. You got. freedom of speech. >> Yes. the people that come inside this.

community, I I don't want them to have the desire. to use their freedom of speech in that. way. >> Do it. Okay. Okay. >> And so all I'm saying is if you want to. use your freedom of speech to use the. n-word and insult black people and. whoever, just do it on the other side of. this fence. >> Right. and I bought the property. So, you know, it ain't like this ain't like in the. middle of Time Square where I'mma just. make anybody in this zone start obeying. all these weird rules. You know what I'm. saying? So, I think it's a I think it's.

a realistic compromise. >> Just just a just a place just a place to. just a place a zone of respect. Just a. zone where a young black soul, a young. afroamerican, he don't have to get contaminated with. negativity. >> Mhm. because random spirits got access. to him. A place where he can hear, "Hey, you're a brother. You are afroamerican. You're a sub brother. You're a good. person. You're better." Now, on the. other side of this wall, people are. going to address you with other things,

but you're not that. You know what I'm. saying? The option to give life some. good people. >> Yeah. Something positive. >> Yes, sir. >> When was the last time you said the. n-word of being called the n-word? >> I mean, they I mean, on the internet all. they call. >> Yeah. only I mean you know if I say. something and somebody don't like it you. know here it come now um I I when I said. it when I was young when I was young. like 13 14 and then I think I even said.

it. >> after I was 20. uh when on this one song. >> yeah I thought I was so hard for saying. it uh but I figured other black dudes. was going to buy my tape. >> right. >> I didn't you know I didn't know you know. whatever. So, but I kind of cut it out around. um. I I hella slowed it down. I know I cut. it out around 2000. >> Okay. Wow. That was a conscious. He.

said, "You know what? I don't I don't. want to be addressed like that. But I. also I don't want to I don't want to be. a part of the stereotype that address. another brother in that manner because. if we said this if it's taboo for them. to use it, let it let's make it taboo. for us to use it. >> I mean I that's the part I don't. understand you know like u like you know. you and I. have to acknowledge the fact there are. self-proclaimed. nwords. I have to step back and let these.

brothers exist, right? >> Okay. Now, I'mma let them exist, but I. am going to distinguish myself from. them. And I love them. I do business. with them. >> Uh I I do this, that, and the other, but. you know, they get the nword in too. long. I'm I'm going get my I'm going get. my atmosphere. We going to coexist. You. know what I'm saying? But um there are. self-proclaimed nwords. So, um, there there's got to be other, uh,

brothers and sisters that feel like I. do, and I just need to get where I need. to be and create us a space. >> It is I, I think every subculture has a. way of relating and talk to each other. in a negative term, negative way. I. think gay people, gay and lesbian people. talk to each other in their subculture. I think women call each other the b-. word in their subculture. I think, you. know, transgender and things, they talk. to each other. And so I don't have. Hispanics or whatever Asian whatever you. me and I love what you said that that's. their freedom of speech and if that's. the way you choose to be I don't have. necessarily have to be around it but I'm.

okay with that and that's what I've. adopted if that's the way you want to. communicate in your subculture. and I've never been one that's like man. well you called them called him a. negative term or you called her a. negative term why can't well I'm not in. that subculture I'm not of that. ethnicity so I but I've never wanted. I've never. because somebody else said something to. somebody I felt I had the right to say. it to just because I got freedom of. speech. That's just me. Everybody might. not feel that way. >> Hey, there's a there's a thin line. between freedom of speech and disturbing.

the peace, >> right? >> So, you know, you ought to use your. freedom of speech to do something. important. You want to be civil, >> okay? >> You you want to actually get some. progress with your freedom of speech. You don't want to insult somebody and. then they they beat you up or kill you. >> Well, the freedom of speech, not freedom. of consequence. Well, you you know, see, you got freedom of speech, but there is. no windshield between [laughter] your. face and that man fist, and we going to. have to holler at you later after we get. that dude off your ass. So, there's a.

thin line between disturbing the peace. and freedom of speech. >> So, you know, people use their freedom. of speech to antagonize people. Yes. Now, now, you know, like you got that, but don't cry when you get what come. with that, right? >> You know, you know, so. >> but you also own property, Oklahoma, California, Mississippi. Why is it so. important for you to own property and uh. and and that's a great thing. I mean. that you own property in all these. places. Do you just have homes or you. just if that's something you want to. build a community in all these places? >> Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I.

want to know where the anti-nword. afroamericans are. You know what I'm. saying? >> You going to have a sign up? >> I mean, you know, [laughter] we may not. have to do it like that. You know what. I'm saying? Um but um I I What's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness? Correct. What's wrong with me pursuing. my happiness? Right? >> I'm not happy with people just randomly. approaching me, using the N word, and. it's all good. I'm not going to go. crazy, but I got to thin that out to the. point where that's, you know, that's. okay. You know what I'm saying? That. can't be that can't be all day, every.

day, you know, and they they send you to. anger management, right? I got to manage. my anger. [laughter]. >> So, we we just need a little space. >> You lived in Hattisburg, Mississippi. What was that like? At what age were you. in Hattisburg? It's going to probably be. like 8 n 10. 11. >> Mhm. >> And we. >> So that was what late 80s? >> Yes, sir. Like a mid to late. >> 80s. >> Yeah. >> So what So what what So what was it. like? What was it like for somewhere. between an 8 and a 12 year old growing. up in Hattisburg, Mississippi?

>> Uh good times. We had a lot of fields. and uh we used to like to play football. You know, everybody mama wake up and. cook, feed them. Now she got to wash the. dishes and and and clean the house and. so everybody mama kick them out the. house, >> right? >> And we had a we all lived around these. big fields. Okay. >> So we played football and you know, soon. as you come out the house, you on their. team, >> you know, and uh I was the only child, so I had a lot of fun in Hattisburg with.

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What would you say it is? >> Um. chicken. Chicken is one of our major. exports. So, you know, fried chicken. Now, I do I will say this as a 51 year. old man. I look at the whole thing. >> Okay. >> The Gulf is a splash off of New Orleans. If you threw a rock. >> and it landed in New Orleans, all those. little waves. >> is it's like Mobile is a baby New. Orleans. >> Uh you know, Gulport, Mississippi, you. know, it all got there. You start seeing.

them little funny little French little. balconies and stuff. >> So, uh. >> so, you know, you know, so Cajun food is. always an option. You can always, you. know, get you some gumbo, but then, you. know, there's that good old, you know, uh you know, American soul food and and. country food, whatever you want to call. it, right? Uh, you know, you can get you. some some collard greens and some fried. chicken and you know that's Did they Did. your Did your mom or your grandparents. did they allow you to cook? Can you. cook? >> I got my dishes. You know what I'm.

saying? I ain't going to just You know, >> you about to go to the kitchen just to. whip this up for y'all. >> I mean, I will. I will. >> So, what you cooking? >> Okay. I can I cook the best shrimp fried. rice in the world. >> Okay. >> Amen. Um, let's see here. I can barbecue. wings really good. Okay. I can barbecue. ribe eyes really good. >> You like on the grill or on the stove? And I mean. >> I like a charcoal grill. >> Okay. You like charcoal? Okay. You ain't. on you ain't with that gas. >> No. Either we barbecuing or we going to. go in the house where we [laughter] you. know we do where we at. Yeah. They come.

out here. You brought the house out here. with the tank, right? >> We might as well go in the house and use. the stove. >> Right. Because I got high. You made. Because I got You made that song in. Mississippi and it's still popular. today. Tell me what was going through. your mind cuz I It's interesting cuz now. that I got you here and you got all. these anthems, I want to know at the. time of you making that song, what was. going through your head? >> I remember I was going to clean up my. room. and um. I was selling my CDs and stuff. So like.

kids would come over my house and they'd. buy them for me cheap and they'd go flip. them. [laughter]. You know what I'm saying? >> So you hustling today, I'll hustle you. >> Hey. Hey. Hey. That's how the world. work. Wholesale retail. You can't have. it all. You know, the little man need to. eat or else what's his he ain't going to. come holl at you. Right. >> Right on. So, you know, >> uh I I was just trying to get mine. I. was trying to stay. It was working for. me. So, he came over. He wanted some.

CDs. He wanted to smoke a blunt before. he left. So, I'm like, "All right, I'm. going to smoke a blunt." It was a polite. way to get rid of him. You know what I'm. [laughter] saying? like, "All right, I'mma smoke this blunt with you." So, he. said, "Man, you got to hear this song." So, it was. uh it was Pimp C and it was one day you. hit then you're gone, >> right? >> Then it start and it kind it was one of. them mood changers and the dude sounded. like Al Green. It came on. It was like.

wow wow wow wow. He's like, "One day. you're here. and then you're gone.". And man, I we it it was depressing, but. it was good. It was real, right? >> By how you can be alive today and and. dead tomorrow and and it it just it was. just taking and we was hitting that weed. and you know that song's be. >> and we kept playing it over and over. I. just got into it. We got the talking.

then some girls came over, had some. beers. Hold up. All this is at your mom. house? >> No, I didn't stay with my mom. Okay. >> Yeah. Uh that was my my dad moved to the. country and he rented that house to me. I All I had to do was, you know, pay the. land taxes and this that and the other. >> Yeah. >> How old were you at this point? >> Uh I'm like I'm like 20. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Cuz I for a second I. thought you like you were still like a. teenager or something. Okay. >> No, no. This because I got high. I'm 51. So I I was 20ome. >> Okay.

>> That was about 25 years. 26 28. >> Yeah. So, uh, I took and, um, they came. over, we got the drinking and long story. short, I didn't get nothing done, >> right? >> And, and I was like, I was going to. clean up today and I was like, man, I. got high with that dude, start playing. that music, got drinking them beers, and. none of this stuff got done. Then I. started looking at other stuff and and. then I b I started writing them little. song, little little verses and. everything. Put it together. >> So, at what age did you decide that you. wanted to become a rapper?

[sighs and gasps]. That's going to be 12. >> Okay. So, who were some of your. influences? >> Um, I love the whole game. At first, I. was I was fascinated by any man that. could talk while he he could rhyme while. he talked. >> Um, >> so KRS1, Eric B, >> man. Before KS1, you know, like it was. Houdini. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Houdini was my first introduction into. hip-hop. It used to be this dude like I.

was my people was church people so we. couldn't play what they call secular. music. >> Yeah. >> So like this dude had a radio and he had. walked by my house to go to the store. and get him a big goat [laughter]. >> and the only rap music I could hear was. when this dude walked by my house with. that radio. >> You next to a circle KD, huh? >> No, it was a junior food market down in. the south back there. I don't know if. you ever seen them. No. >> All right. But it was Houdini. It was 5. minutes to funk. I remember I'd be.

sitting in my room and I could hear that. through the window. I get up, start running through the. house. And I hit the yard and I cheer him on. [laughter]. and he would always shake my hand with. the mock like Yeah. And he, you know, he. always make sure he walk by my house for. me, play that Houdini. You know, freaks. come out at night, friends. Do you credit Howard Sterns for making. uh Because I Got High popular? >> How you know? Thank I I thank him for.

throwing a a big stick on the fire, >> right? >> But Because I Got High made itself uh. popular on that first form of YouTube. called Napster. >> Okay. >> You know, I wasn't hip to it back then, but everybody else was. >> How did he hear about the song? >> He got it off of Napster because he. didn't buy it from me. [laughter]. Hey. Um, but you was nominated for a.

Grammy for that song, right? >> Yes, sir. >> So, I mean, you were in the same. category. Missy, get your freak on. She. won. DMX, who we be, Jay Ho was in. there. Iso, Nelly, Ride with me. Boy, this heavy hitters in there like, damn. But the mere fact that that little song, a kid from you're in Hattisburg, Mississippi, and they got those big big. conglomerates pushing them and you. sitting at the table with them. >> Yeah. >> How did that make you feel? Then you.

like, "Okay, >> this is what I was supposed this is what. I'm supposed to do.". >> I at back then I was mad cuz I didn't. win it. [laughter]. >> But as a old man, I'm smiling from ear. to ear like, damn. All right, we good. You know, my nomination is cool, >> right? Uh, Soulja Boy claims he's the. first viral rapper on the internet, but. you before show Soulja Boy, you that was. >> Yeah. God, you know, God bless him. I. think he from Mississippi, you know, he. he he younger and you know, um, you. know, he can he God bless him. He push.

his fame and make his money, >> you know, but, you know, I'm older than. I remember my kids came in the room and. told me about Soulja Boy, >> right? >> My kid, hey, daddy, they they was doing you cranky. They was. doing their Superman and Batman. >> Crank dad. Yeah, they was enjoying it, you know. I was happy to see them. enjoying I played with them. Uh, but I. came out in 200. mine hit around 2000 2001. So, you know, I think he he was like 2005.

>> Yeah. >> Or something like that right there. >> Six or something like that. I don't. know. >> Your music spiked after the the uh the. defamation lawsuit. Did you ever think that because like a. lot of time I mean we get this a lot. like when when entertainers when they. perform at the Super Bowl all of a. sudden they get this huge spike in their. music where people have you know they. knew who they are they've been doing. their thing but they get a huge spike. especially in a lot of their old stuff. and even their new stuff it spikes is. did you think this would happen with. you? >> Yes. Yes. I call myself the male Tina.

Turner. [laughter]. Oh, they got a skeleton leg and a. stiletto hair look like a shocked like I. got stuck. But what's love got to do. with this? I'm back, baby. And I knew I. always love the way she came back as a. old woman. >> Yeah, cuz once that movie came out, what's love got to do with all her old. stuff? Private. >> But you know that song came out before. that movie. >> Yeah, that song's in like in the 80s. I.

think 1984. It's it's I I there's. something I get I get a as a musician I. get this spark of positivity and hope. >> when she come out cuz I didn't know her. I I don't like I don't like all the. >> you know I I came on the scene with with. what's love got to do with it. >> and um. >> private dancer all those songs. Well, I. you know I you know so I just I just. Tina Turner taught me [laughter]. damn it it ain't over until it's.

blankety blank over right. >> So every time I get depressed I always. play what's love got to do with it. >> So their songs are uploaded. So every. time they play them on Spotify and. YouTube, you get a little kickback, huh? >> You know, whatever that is. You know. what I'm saying? A lot of people. complain about that uh hair fraction of. a penny. [laughter] you know, uh Jesus. said it's better to give than it is to. receive. You know, I remember they. they'll play a rapper song free on the.

radio, >> right? >> But then that help you know it was out, >> right? >> So that that helped the rapper get the. word out that his reckless. So you know, like it all balance out in my mind like. if I don't get it from the record. company, I'm going to get it from the. concerts. If I don't get it from the. concerts, I'm going to get it from I'm. going to get somewhere. >> You know, you can't keep it from me, right? It's gonna come to me some kind. of crazy way. >> But you know, in in in the beginning, you know, you had to pay radio stations. I mean, they they would play the radio. station to spin yours. And so to play.

your records, >> but here's the thing. Watch this. >> Go ahead. >> I didn't have to pay nobody to put out. because I got high. If it's good enough, you can't stop it. >> I like that. >> I didn't pay no promote. And and later. on in life, I was paying people to. position my records in front of the. store. couldn't verify that they was. doing it this, that, and the other. Uh, and and and then I thought I told myself. I didn't have to do that with Because I. Got High. Because I Got High did that by. itself. So, that's just a hustle and a. ripoff.

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The lawsuit. Did you have any idea that. lawsuit would blow up like it did? >> Uh, not like that. Not like not like. this, not like that. Um I know like I. know it was interesting in my Afroman. world. >> So like I had I you I average 13. comments, you know, uh 13 20, you know, I'm like, "All right, I get up in the. 40s and 50s, you know, I start feeling. good, man. I start doing cabbage patch.

and everything like, man, all right.". >> You know what I'm saying? So, I knew I. didn't think it would blow up like this. Um, cuz I've been trying to run my. followers up for years, but um the just. the police officers announcing that they. were suing me, that outraged the world. to the point where they was just. interested like the the the the police. was bringing me the the numbers. Help.

Hel help the people that don't really. didn't follow this case or understand. the case. The police raided your home because they. thought you were a drug dealer. You had. something going on. Why? What brought. the police to your residence? >> A unconfidential informant. told the police she got busted with some. whatever she had. >> Right. to get out of that. She started. making up stories about me.

>> Okay. >> Uh she told him that I had a dungeon and. I had kidnapping victims and she told. them that I had a lot of weed like. whatever. And. that's what they came looking for. You. know, their their excuse was we had to. get the kidnapping victims out of there. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. So we got to move right. now. >> Yes. >> Situation coming in. >> Then he got you know a pyramid of.

marijuana. >> Okay. >> And and then you know so by her saying. that uh you know that they you know that. that. >> they came immediately. >> that got the cuffs off of her and they. jumped in their cars and came around. there and you know kicked down my door. >> But you have like. was so you have surveillance, you got. cameras watching your property and all. that. So when they get in, you did you. see them coming? Could you see them on. on your. >> When I backed it up, you know, you know, I wasn't riding around looking at my.

surveillance. Been another boring day. >> But you weren't Were you Were you home. when they came? >> I was not. >> Oh, so how did you know they were there? Were you So when you looked at your. camera, when you looked at your. >> Yeah, I got I got the car that they were. swarming all around the house and then I. pulled off the freeway, pulled in the. speedway, got me a big Mountain Dew, big. goat. [laughter]. I opened that door through that seat on. recline and hit my little app and uh you. know started checking them out. >> Could you talk to him? Could you could.

you could you can you. >> I didn't have that one set up. You know. I'm you know I'm I'm new to the video. era. I'm just happy. I just want to see. who took whatever. >> Okay. Okay. So now you Okay. You get the. call. Hey. babe bro. They got car they got cop cars. everywhere. I don't know what you did or. what you said but they are here. You. need to get home. So you get your. Mountain Dew big gulp, you head to the. crib, you get there and they say, "What?". >> I don't head nowhere. I stay right there.

in that speedway like [laughter] sipping. that [ __ ] Mountain Dew. >> So you don't go home, right? >> I don't talk to people with AR-15s. [laughter]. >> Okay. >> I talk to people with conac and weed and. and women and music. I don't I don't. talk to people running around with AR. That's not the guy I want to see today. >> Okay. So, so when did at what point when. did you get home and were they still. there when you got home? >> No, I made sure they was gone. >> Okay. But you knew they were coming back.

>> for what? >> Well, they wanted to see if the what the. dungeon was. >> They searched the house that it was no. dungeon. >> Well, you what? What about the weed? >> It wasn't no weed. >> So, there was no dungeon. There was no. weed. >> No weed. >> Okay. So, so what was the So, what was. the issue? So, did they offer you an. apology? I'm sorry. >> No. No. Um, we see it all the time. People pick up the phone and and give. the police like a fake call. >> Yeah. >> We see it. Oh, I'm I'm being attacked.

Oh, this, that, and the other. Uh, I'm. I'm this. Oh, but this one, it wasn't. that kind of lie. It was a different. type of lie. It was a lie of, "Hey, let. me out of this and I'll tell you about. something.". >> But it was a lie that still could have. got someone hurt. >> Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. Because I can. imagine if you were home, you I'm like, "Bro, police, ain't nobody called. y'all." And when we call you, sometimes. you take forever to get here. Now all of. a sudden you show up unprompted. >> Yeah. >> And then you said they kicked you. They. they broke your door down. You probably.

going to feel some type of way. You. expecting I mean door fly off the. hinges. You might grab the piece and. then boom. All that because uh somebody. told a lie and then unfortunately life. is uh life is lost. And and what I don't. like is uh to this day there's no. punishment for her giving them false. information and making all of this jump. off. You see what I'm saying? >> What about So have they have they. repaired the door. >> uh indirectly. with their ass [laughter].

thanks to me. They they yeah they you. know I I I they inspired the money and. you know I I got to get it. >> So let me So So okay, y'all do this to. me. Okay, first of all, you raided my. house. You you you believed somebody. that had something to gain from this to. get out of that. They put me into it, which wasn't true. So, you know what? So, how did you come up with this? You. know what? I know what I'm going to do. I got something for y'all. What? How did. you come up with these anthems that you.

know, the lemon pound cake and all this? >> Man, I've been doing it for years. You. know, I started rapping at 12, right? >> It It was a girl bully. >> She was cute. She she had brand new. clothes on and and she you know my. parent we was we was back from. Mississippi and my dad didn't believe in. $50 tennis shoes. >> Oh no. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Your boy get out of. here getting pro. >> Yeah. You know and so these little LA. kids was wild. They was you know they. had felas on and dad wasn't f to buy me. them and and I had old rangers and so.

she picked on she stood by the gate her. and her loud home girls and they they. picked on everybody raggedy. So, >> she was light-skinned. >> and. her she had a slight mustache. >> She was cute. It it it fell in just. right. It was, you know, I kiss her. She's still cute, but she had a little. mustache. Her name was Carrie. So, Lahy. Dotty was a hot song. Okay. >> And I wrote my first rap song. Instead. of Lahy Dotty, I wrote Harry Carrie. [laughter]. So, Slick Rick say something. I listen.

to him. I kind of write mine. Kind of. figured out how to structure it and. everything, right? So, I wrote it, memorized it. So went to school, she. said something to me and like I always. say, rapping was a craze. You attempt to. do it. People gather around like a. fight. I jumped up. I like I was doing. my little Douggee. I was doing my Slick. Rick part. I was like, "All right, Remy, let me just screw you." My buddy was. beatboxing doing like the Douggee Fresh. part. >> And so I was like, "Harry Carrie." And. you remember them old men they say when. you go down on a woman, it make you put.

put hair on your face. You know what I'm. saying? So I said Harry Kerry ate her. own cherry. That's why her lips are very. very and you know that was that was that. was good to go in ' 86. [laughter]. >> And so her name to this to this day is. Harry Kerry. >> Oh man, come on. You done stuck that. You done stuck that young lady with his. name. >> It started back just like a serial. killer. After I think about I'm a serial. rapper. It started with Harry Kerry, >> right? >> Then I had my eighth grade teacher. this.

kid I, you know, I had moved out of. South Central. I'm living up there in. Palmdale. You know, so I'm going to. school with the little white kids. So, you know, they going to slip me a a. racial joke. But I know I noticed how. they was, they was good. They they they'. give one, but they take one, right? So, we was good. >> So, I'm sitting in class. So, this one. kid goes, "Hey, Joby." That's what he. used to call me back then. He goes, he. goes, >> "What do you" He's like, "What do you. call a black Smurf?" He goes, "Smigger.". And so, it was funny. I laughed. As I.

was laughing, I flipped him off. >> Right. >> She sends me She sends me to the office. for flipping him off, >> right? >> But she don't send him to the office for. telling the sm joke. So I get mad at. her. I go home and make a rap song about. her. >> Oh my goodness. >> Yeah. And then that was my next hit. Then the little Palmdale kids was buying. my Miss Doler tape. I made a song called. Miss Dolber. >> So you got So okay, you make lemon pound. cake. Will you help me repair my door? The police raid. Why you disconnected my. camera? Randy Waters is a son of a bee.

[laughter]. So I'm just like, so were you surprised when they said, you know what, we filed a defamation. suit against you. Were you surprised. that they went to this level. to get retribution against you even. though they were wrong in the first. place? >> Yeah. Okay. Yes. Um, and I'm going to. tell you, I was I was surprised on so. many levels. First of all, before I get. to running my mouth and lose too much. time, I was surprised at the fact that. they let me know it hurt.

>> Oh, okay. >> Now, we learned that lesson as little. kids. >> Can't let them know. >> Don't let them know it hurt. >> Man, and I'm a rapper. I'm like, what? You would They suing me over some post. and a song about a man looking at a. pound cake. I ain't even got started. yet. You know, so I was like I could Oh, you ever seen that movie Lion Hart? >> Yeah. >> Remember when he he hit him? Lion Hart. toward the end. Lion Hart was fighting. with them broke ribs and that big dude,

he was just bouncing around. He tapped. them ribs that. >> So that's why you heard it, huh? [laughter]. >> I was I was surprised some big bad cops. let me see where it hurt. And I was. surprised that they that words was. hurting them because I'm like I'm. hurting from reality. The reality of. them kicking down my door, running. through my house with guns and I can't. answer that, right? >> My my my answer to them violating me.

like that is a rap song, >> right? >> You know that that's that's what's uh uh. embarrassing and hurtful to me. But with. all of this power, with all of this. authority, they can't stay on that. pedestal. They're going to let my. peasant words hurt them. them. Yeah, >> that's the part that surprised me. And. then all of the other parts like you. raid my house, you steal my money, you. disconnect my cameras, and then you sue. me when I say something about it. The.

audacity, the outrage, the spectacle, and then as I tripped, I realized the. world was tripping with me. And that's. when I cracked the smile. You know, when. you go in the wrong direction, you can't. turn around soon enough. Right. You look. at G, you look at your GPS, that blue. line going back the other way. Like you. need to make a U-turn. I can't make a. U-turn. >> And I'm looking at them. They've been. going the wrong direction for four, three, four, five years. >> And I knew it, >> you know, but they they didn't know it. They can't, you know, when you mess up,

you know, it's best to take that deep. breath, say, "Hey, I'm sorry.". >> Yeah. >> And a get that over with. Don't keep. that going, right? >> Cuz you you're wrong and you're going. the wrong way. But they messed up. They. doubled down. They didn't care. And they. just splashed in their puddle of wrong, right? >> You know, suing me, stealing my money, all that good stuff. >> Did you get your money back? >> No. No. >> No. >> Why haven't you gotten the money back? Are they Are they say they're going to. re They going to compensate you? >> They haven't made no kind of plans. I.

still got to go after him. >> But there was a deputy on camera. checking out the cake and said he. received hundreds of pound cakes at work. from different people. So you had a cake. on the in the kitchen and he was over. there and you can see him looking at the. you can see him. Did he cut a slice? Did. he get [laughter]. >> the cameras got disconnected and the. cake came up missing, too. I don't know. >> Come on, man. I know. Come on, man. >> I demand we reopen this investigation, man. >> I know damn well they ain't take your.

cake out, >> man. Where is it at? >> Where is it at, man? >> I thought I thought cops like donuts. They don't like cake, >> man. These some Ohio cops. They done. switched it up a little bit, man. These. some these some these some country cops, man. They like that. They like mama's. lemon pound cake, man. >> But I but listen to a little bit of the. trial and they was like, well, he said. this and people said uh and and one guy. was talking about how, you know, his. kids asked is was uh his wife cheating.

on him and things like that. And I'm. like, really? They really be and watch this right. here. Watch this. Would the world know one of the cops. had a pedophile brother and he's a. statutory rapist if he hadn't sued me? Would they know that? >> No. >> No. Would the world know that one of the. cops is married to a exconvict thief? If they had not tried to sue me?

>> No. >> No. Would the world know that Shawn. Grooms blamed his divorce on me and his. wife was my only witness that. contradicted his whole story if he had. not tried to sue? >> No, >> these are self-inflicted wounds. >> Yeah. Because discovery like they they. brought this on them. They exposed. themselves to the whole world being. wrong, honory, and greedy. They was they was if they would have.

just said, "Hey man, if they hadn't even. apologized, if they would have just left. and just shut up and let let me sing my. little songs, if they just would have. shut up, it would have went away.". >> You know, they brought attention to it. by reacting to it. They let me know it. hurt. Then they let the world know it. hurt. I didn't mail those pound cakes to. them. The world know it hurt. The world. messing with them, right? They they just. like that dude on Lion Hart. They see. that broke rib. >> So.

they did wrong and instead of. apologizing for the wrong, they tried to. go after compensation from you to try to. >> they trying to let they're bullying me. They're letting me know, hey, we're. wrong. We're bad. We're the government. and you can't do nothing about it. That's their message to me. >> And they But the problem was they did. that live stream in front of the world. Now, you can do that to me in an alley. with nobody looking. That's what they're. accustomed to doing. >> Correct. >> What they didn't realize was they was.

>> doing this in front of the whole world. >> Mhm. And. >> and it's different when the whole world. is watching. >> Did you know that the judge was so. impartial to you as the trial was going. on? Because it was later came out that. seemed like he was very disappointed in. the verdict. Did you know he was. impartial towards you? >> Yeah. And I'mma tell you, I knew he was. impartial before I even. >> Well, he was partial towards you because. he really wanted you to get to. >> he he dismissed my claims before I even.

went to court in some little room. somewhere with a click of a mouse. He. dismissed my claim. >> Damn. >> Without a hearing. I I I I just set an. appeal uh on 420. I dropped the 420. We. set an appeal. >> What? Why that date? >> It just all worked out. I went Watch. this. Watch God. I went to court May the. 16th. Verdict came down. I went to court March the 16th. Yes. >> All right. Easy, brother. [laughter].

>> I went to court March the 16th. >> Correct. >> Verdict got read March 20th. >> Correct. >> You got 30 days to file an appeal. 30 days from March 20th was April 20th. >> Correct. >> April 20th came. They didn't find no. appeal and I dropped mine in the basket. Bam. And it's beautiful. It was It was the. last day, 30 days. >> Because there was a juror that came out. and said, "What was it about what he.

said that led y'all to to not side with. the officers?" And then and and she. said, "Well, I thought that was ve I. thought that was very odd. >> that normally there's like, oh, is this. your decision? Is they go by and ask. each is this your decision? Is this your. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But to ask why. they didn't side with That's odd. >> No, it's not odd. >> It's not. >> No, it's typical.

>> It's typical to side with the police to. back the blue to do. Now listen, I'm not. knocking police officers. >> Yes. >> Now just human beings join the police. for me. There's good human beings and. bad human beings. >> It all in all walks. Now, what I will. say this, >> the good human beings in the police. department ain't snitching enough on. them bad ones. They need to turn it up. >> Yes. >> All right. Cuz how can you be good when. you sitting here allowing bad stuff to. go on? >> Now, that's my I'm going to slip that.

little slip to all the good police. Okay. >> All right. Now, um you know, but uh the. these the you know, >> I think I forgot the original question. No, but I'm saying because the the judge. because he's supposed to be impartial, but he was partial towards his group, >> right? They listen, you I'm not a human. being to them people. They was talking. about, "Do you know what you did to her. kids? Do you know what you did to mine?".

You know what about my kids? You know, you came to my house first with your. AR-15s. >> Mhm. >> But I don't exist. I don't matter. We're. not talking about me. We're talking. about the guy with the guns kids. >> Your kids would have never knew anything. about Afro Man had y'all not did what. y'all did, >> right? So, you know, so I I was just. tripping on how they was just talking. over and past, >> right? Like you're not even there. >> Yeah. Yeah. Forget you. Here's your. claim. We kicked down your door. We. stole your money. We disconnect your. cameras. [ __ ] your claims. Let's talk.

about what you did to these police. officers. My dad said a man in Corpus. Christie, Texas, stepped on his foot and. turned around and said, "Hey man, why. you put your foot underneath mine?". People just know how to start a fight. with you if they if. >> if they think they can win. >> They didn't they'll do it if they if. they don't know they can't. They'll try. it, >> right? >> A lot of people get knocked out all the. time. They thought they thought they. could win. [laughter]. >> You know what I'm saying? So, you know,

these cats was dead wrong. but with had. arrogance with it. You know, they meant. to do that. You know, >> your uh one of your favorite lyrics is. mama's lemon pound cake. It tastes so. nice. It made a sheriff want to put out. his gun and cut him a slice. [laughter]. >> So, you really can see the deputy. cutting us uh bothered or you made Well, you say they took the cake. Say when you. came back, a cake that you had on the. counter was no longer there. >> Look here. Lick them low. Lisa cut off. the cameras and everything came. Oh my.

goodness. Come on. >> The cake was gone. The money was gone. You know, >> she took a fist to that, huh? >> Man, my Madonna's greatest hits was. gone. You know, [laughter]. they mentioned Cardi B's WA, Lil. Wayne's, you know, monster. because. they were taken in a in a literal sense. It's like, bro, this is freedom of. expression. I mean, nobody assumes that. they see something in the movie that.

they can go out there and do it. >> This is your freedom of spee. This is. your your first amendment. >> My biggest song is Crazy Rap. And I I. was trying to outdo Too Short when I. wrote this song. Okay. Too Short had. Freaky T. I grew up admiring Too Short. >> Okay. >> I was a little boy. I heard Freaky. Tales. I'm like, damn, >> he had all them women. >> So, I had to outdo Too Short. So too. short sound like he he humped all the. girls in Oakland. [laughter] So I had to. outdo Too Short. So I had to hump all.

the girls in the world, right? So I had. to go to Japan and and you know I was. all over. So somebody walked up to me. and they said, "Hey Afro man, is crazy. rap true.". >> And I said, "I never had Dolly Parton, man. I was. lying, man." You know, >> right? >> So but it's an entertainment. It's a. song and people know you're lying and. they notice it. I don't know. >> Right. >> I you know uh Superman what I knew when. a rapper was entertaining me. >> Correct. Yes. [laughter] But uh what.

made you start making music videos with. the security footage that it did pick up. before they disconnected it? >> I wanted to. get my money from them. I wanted to get my money from the. experience they brought to my life. Okay. >> I didn't want because I got high to pay. for their damage. That was taking money. from me. >> to me. So, I wanted to make an album.

about them. And then I wanted to monitor that album. to make sure all the damages was paid. for. And possibly, hey, what if what if, you know, best case scenario, them. vandalizing my house was some kind of. financial investment? They, you know, you know, they got all these budgets all. the time. Yes. You know, uh, they cost. me $28,000.

Um, but then the ideas and songs I got. from their $28,000. worth of vandalism. inspired and helped me make a million. dollars, $2 million. Who knows how many. records this thing might sell, >> right, >> in my lifetime. So, I can look back over. and say, "Hey, that 25,000, that 28,000. inspired me to make this million over. here." You know what I'm saying? So, I. was trying to look at it through that. lens. I read they broke down your uh.

front door, negate the security. surveillance system wire, refused to pay. for the damages, said it cost you 28. $20,000 to repair. The cops took 5,000. from your home. They returned 4,600. You do $400. You let them walk with that. $400. Okay. >> No, no. >> $400 pro. >> No, no, no. Let me steal $400. I'm going. to jail. handcuffs cocked to the side of. the back of the squad car and. everything. Now, a man representing the.

law can break it. >> No, that's. >> No, >> he's he's supposed he's supposed to be. above reproach. He's supposed to be a. standard. >> Yeah. Okay. I don't care if it was 25. cents. In the words of the the the the. the the great big worm, it's. principalities in this. [laughter]. >> He's a cop. You can't represent the law. and then break it, >> right? So just that principle, >> right? >> They going to have to fess up for my. $400. You can't be a cop and a criminal. at the same time. I don't want that.

That don't need to be walking around. with 100% immunity, >> right? Back up with multiple precincts. The army is backing up the police. The. Marines is backing up the police. There's a pyramid of power going to the. back of a police officer's back. A. criminal can't have that cuz he's not. going to do right. He's going to do. somebody right. He gonna pull over your. son, gonna pull over your daughter with. all that authority and all that power. and he's crooked. >> So if I see it, I got to get rid of him. now. He gota he got to be a better. magician than that,

>> right? >> If I see it, I ain't going to let him. go. That man's a thief and he's a police. officer, right? >> No. Give me my $400 back. Amen. >> So I'm assuming I'm assuming a lot of. your family because you got the call. that they were there and your kids there. and you said they had the guns drawn on. them. So how have you are your kids. better today? Do they understand what. transpired? >> Yes. Yes. >> You talked, >> you know, I talked to them. >> And uh. >> how how old are you, if you don't mind. me asking? >> Um well, right now, if I can keep up.

with time, Jesus Christ. Uh they. supposed to be 16 and 13 right now. They. [clears throat] was like I think they. was like uh maybe like 10 and 12, something like that. 10, 13. >> back uh when the police raided. >> Okay. Since this has happened, how are you. treated in your hometown? How are you. treated where this transpired? >> Overwhelming love, joy, and gratitude.

like uh you know, I don't want to say. that hero word, right? I've seen it, but. it's like some something. It's like some. kind of parade, >> right? >> It's a it's a it's a be I've I've I've. been popular in high school. I've been, you know, I've been I've done good. concerts and people have cheered me on. This is big. This is different. >> Have you had any further interaction. with the police? >> Um, no. Um,

>> and you like that. >> Randy Walters, he after the trial, he. came up to me and he was, you know, he was humble and kind of. apologetic in a way. >> Mhm. And uh you know I told him that I didn't. want to I didn't want to fight him. I. didn't want to shoot it out if we saw. each other in Walmart. Uh this that and. the other. And you know he was telling. me how he was a Christian and he love. God and all that. And that was fine. And. I told him you know I ain't going to. hate him and I ain't going to go to hell.

and you know I don't want him to get. jumped on. I don't want him to get hurt. But I told him I'mma sing this song. >> forever. And I was like I'm not mad at. you. you this is this you know I was. going to life brought me because I got. high. >> life bring me a song and I'mma sing that. song you know it it pays my bills it it. helps me get through through life so I I. told him you know no hostility you know. but you know you are suing me for a. million and a half dollars correct with.

your nice ass. >> you know what I'm saying you did flip. off my security kind you know with your. Christian self. >> you know what I'm saying so and I'm not. going to hate hate you for that. I. forgive you for that just like you going. to have to forgive me for singing this. song for the rest of my life. >> And I and and and I and I I told God, I. said, "God, I think this is a good. compromise." I told God, I said, "I. don't want these people dead. I don't. want them hurt." I said, "But I want to. sing and I want to make money." And I. think that is a peaceful compromise. Um,

all things considered, >> how different do you think this case. would have been had it not been. recorded? >> I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. I'd. just be some dude hollering, getting on. people's nerve. But what what I like. about this is I'm showing it to you. while I'm saying it. Will you help me. repair my gate as it's being destroyed? Will you help me repair my door as it's.

being kicked down? Did you find what. you're looking for? As we can see, you. didn't. Will you help me repay? So, this. footage helped me verify what I was. saying. And the verification. spread the outrage, you know, throughout. the world. You ran for president in 2024. You plan on running in 2028? >> If everybody want me to.

>> What about running? Have you just What. have you thought about running for a. local uh say like a city councilman or. the mayor or something? Have you thought. about running for something in your. hometown? >> Yes. Uh I want to run for whoever can. fire and check the police. I might have. to be the sheriff. I might have to be I. might have to be the mayor. I'mma be. somebody. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. You got to be the mayor for that. Okay, I might have to beat the mayor. >> So, if you were the president,

give me eight, give me, let's just say. for the sake of argument, 2028, you're running for president and I. need your plan. I need you, give give. me, give me five or six points that you. say, you know what, if you elect Afroman. as your president, I solemnly swear to. do X, Y, Z. One, I'm going to put a jury in family court.

because I see what a crooked judge and. some attorneys can do to a person. >> Interesting. >> I would like for citizens of America to. be able to get jobs monitoring. each police officer's video cam. Yes.

>> I would like for America to make its own. products. to the point where it employs us. >> right. >> as much as possible. I wouldn't have any wars if nobody is. not flying over America directly bombing. us or doing something this that and the. other. I I wouldn't have no wars going. on in abroad. I'd make sure America is.

self-sufficient to the point where we. wouldn't need anything from the world to. the point where we had to go to war with. another country or something like that. I just make sure you know there was no. wars going on. >> Well, you do realize uh you know America. found that it was cheaper to import all. the stuff. That's why all these. factories, a lot of the factories that. they used to have in Detroit and Ohio, they got shipped overseas because it was. it became cost prohibited,

>> cheaper, but it's costing America in. another whole different way. >> It cost them jobs for sure, >> right? It's it's costing mental health. It's costing existence. It's costing. finances, you know, it's it's bad for. the good of the country. We're rottening. from the inside out, >> right? >> So, I would stop that. >> Okay. And uh I have that made in the USA. thing back on every product. And and then if you didn't go to work, that would just be your fault. The the. jobs. >> cuz the jobs are available.

>> Yes. >> You had uh your eight priority uh uh. points in 2024. you decriminalize. cannabis, the criminal justice reform, law enforcement reform, a media halt to. all foreign aid, reparations for. African-Americans, promotion of unity, peace, and love, promotion of. celebratory uh displays in professional. sports, legalization of prostitution, you said mechanical plants are. criminalized while pharmaceutical. companies enrich themselves on chemicals. with unknown side effects.

No more foreign aid, huh? >> I mean, uh, if if I see if America's. hurting, then no. You know how I'm going. to give you something when I need it at. home? >> Yeah. >> So, that's that's the cold, you know, truthful pal bottom line. >> You got reparations for. African-Americans. Do you believe that. Americans will ever get reparations? >> Well, I'm ready. I got a plan A and I. got a plan B. >> Okay, give me A. All right. Plan A.

Present day America says we don't want. to pay for the sins of our forefathers. this day. At the same time, the sins of. the forefathers have an effect on. >> today. >> Today, my logical compromise is this. Afroamericans, descendants of American slaves, pay no. fate, pay no state or federal taxes. That don't cost nobody. You don't got to.

that can just start right away. That can. start right away. You ain't got to. >> So how long? So for forever or say for. five for the next five years, for the. next 10 years, next 20 years, if you're. if you're the lineage of. >> forever slash 400 or however long. slavery was in in existence. >> Okay, >> I say forever. >> Okay, >> just because I'm an afroamerican. [laughter]. >> Hey, look, I just just just leave me. All right, we. >> Well, we know the earliest documentation.

is 1619 in Jamestown and it said. officially ended what? 1865. supposed. you know what 1865 because the. emancipation proclamation was so so what. about 200 years and then you had Jim you. had reconstruction you had Jim Crow so. let's just say for how about let's let's. split the difference let's be kind for. 200 years for the next 200 years. African-Americans doesn't have to pay. state or federal taxes. >> Shannon be cool man forever man's. [laughter]. messing up my plan can we step outside.

>> we got a couple right now we got to get. we got to get copper Compromise, bro. It's compromised. >> Okay, look at that's okay. Plan You said. plan A. We ain't talking about plan B. >> Okay. What's plan B? >> All right, man. Plan B. Okay, there's. plan. Plan B is let's say. they don't they don't pay. the descendants of slaves for the. atrocities that happened. Okay,

plan B is this. anti-nword afroamericans like myself, okay, go somewhere and try to buy the. largest pieces of property possible, some fund be set up. where I ask.

the non-black American that understands. if they want to, they can contribute. whatever God puts on their heart. >> to help us, you know, establish. ourselves and and get out of everybody's. way. >> Okay, >> that's plan B. >> Okay, >> that ain't going to hurt nobody. We. going I'm going to do the best I can and. I ain't mad if you got a little. donation. >> I can't lie. I kind of like plan A. little better. >> Amen. Hey, now plan B is realistic than.

a mug. But hey, plan A is is it's it's. realistic. It's it it's logical, right? >> You know, it's better than me saying, "Hey, cuz you know they ain't going to. be able to afford what they really owe, >> right? >> Afroamericans for slavery.". >> And it's e it's easier if you don't see. it coming out of your pocket, >> right? I say, "Okay, they say, "Hey, we. we didn't make no slaves this that.". Say, "Okay, fine. Hey, look. Just cut. the state and federal taxes for. Afroamericans, >> you [clears throat] know, just.

Afroamerican, not people faking like. they afroamericans [laughter] and hating. Afroameans. >> Yeah. >> You said legalize prostitution. Why. should prostitution be legal? How did. that help? >> Um, now I didn't think I was going to make. it to the presidency, so that was one of. my lines that kind of entertained the. crowd. It was like a funny It was a. funny. >> So, you gonna make everything like. Vegas, huh? You know what I'm saying? Now, you know, like I really,

you know, that was a joke. That was a. joke I told. >> Right. >> Now, you know, depending on the people. >> Mhm. >> If the people tell me they they want. that, you know, I'll make sure the. proper medical places are in place and. this that and the other. If the people. don't want that, then the people don't. want that. You know, we the people for. the people. >> You going to be a president. You going. to be a president for the people? >> Yes. >> You do realize a lot of people say that. until they get into the office. And it's. for the corporations, for the. pharmaceuticals, and for the healthcare,

for. >> I'm I'm really for the people. I want to. see the best thing happened. >> Okay. >> For for every for everybody, right? >> Especially every American. >> Uh I love America. This is home. I don't. plan on leaving, right? >> So, I want to make the best of it, >> right? >> So, I want. I want another American to have the. best. so we can, you know, live the best. American life we possibly can. >> Is it true you tried to be a pimp at one. point in time?

>> I try to get women to bring me money. They don't do it. [laughter]. Every guy should try to get a woman to. bring him some money. Watch how hard it. is. [laughter]. Try to jump up in the air and stay. there, too. That's real hard. Uh I like um I like when I as I as I. shop. through life I take what I like. I have. seen some nice dressers. >> and you know that word that that.

definition has been. you know it's been morphed. >> over time. It ain't you know the old. school I'mma get some girl beat her up. and make her have sex with guys and. bring me money right. No. >> Uh I like you know I like looking good. I like, you know, uh, jewelry and. driving a nice car. You know what I'm. saying? If I look at a bum and a pimp, >> I want to dress like the pimp. You know, I don't want to, you know, not none of.

the bad negative characteristics that go. with that. They got shows that say pimp. my ride, >> right? >> So, they not talking about they they. talking about making a bad car look. good, >> right? >> So, I like pimp in that sense. Like, or. I like. >> a good bit a p a good pimp to me like a. good businessman, >> you know? He's not a loser. He He's He's. making a profit. He's progressing. We'll. say stuff like, "Put it in my pocket and. uh player in motion for progress.". >> You know what I'm saying? Right. >> But not not beating on women and and.

whatever. >> the typical definition was back in the. day. >> You've been married before. Would you. get married again? >> I'mma say no. Um. >> why? Because. when you get married, you have to do your duties forever. But she can stop being a wife as soon as. you get married. Soon as you get married, she can say, "Go in there and cook your dinner your. goddamn self, [laughter].

you punk ass [ __ ]. And I wish you would divorce me and give. me all this shit." So you got to keep on. being a husband, but she can stop being. a wife. And then it's to her advantage to be. like this if she don't have the right. mentality. You know, they have divorce. parties now. They celebrate getting with. a guy and breaking up with him and. breaking him. >> Damn.

>> Yeah. Marriage is a low-key hustle. >> Yeah. Marriage is not what it used to. be. >> I mean, like, and then it's like this, man. You know, like, you know, like if. two people like each other. >> Yes. They'll be with each other. >> Correct. >> We don't need paperwork and strangers. >> People ain't staying together because of. paper. They staying together because. they love each other and they committed. each other and they want to work and. they understand that it takes work. >> I wanted to come to this show today. >> Yes. >> You know, so I can't. A girl want to be.

with you, she'll be with you, >> right? >> If she don't want to be with you, you'll. hear that voicemail, you look at the. side of that bed, she ain't with you, >> right? >> She where she want to be. So you can. marry that paperwork, >> right? >> But that spirit. >> Mhm. >> A woman is a spirit. You can't own a. spirit. She moving around. You married what? You married and single. at the same time. So she got to want to be with you. And. you don't need paperwork, strangers, and.

all that. Either she want to be with you. or she don't. And if she with you, she. being nice, she doing good. Fine, fine, fine. If she start tripping, she quit. >> But you got to keep going. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Yes. >> So, let's be nice to each other, >> you know? Yes. >> Are we done? >> You know, >> well, I think you you got to you got to. work. I mean, I think the thing is. sometimes people think, I've never been. married, but I think sometimes people.

looking at it from afar and talking to. people that's been married and been. divorced is that what they think like. the marriage is the end all be all. Okay, it's it now, but you got to keep. working. You don't get a job and then. get to quit. >> That's why I'm saying like you gotta. want. I was thinking like. I gotta want to be with a girl. Like I. get with a girl. I say, "Hey, >> I'm not going to play too short while. this girl is in the car, >> right? >> She shouldn't play Beyonce while I'm in.

the car. >> Don't play something that's going to. bring you like you're in the car. I'mma. go make a playlist, >> right? >> I'mma go and it's not just slow songs. I. got sunshine, >> right? >> I'm gonna play something that's going to. nurture our rel. I'mma I'mma keep doing. I'm going to get another love when I'm. with you. I got to play love songs. This. that and the other. Uhuh. I'm nurturing. you. I'mma wake up every day and I'mma. water this flower. >> You playing Bill Withers Lovely Day, huh? >> Yes. Yes.

You got to listen to them words. >> Just because it's slow don't make it a. love song. You got to listen to They. might be complaining and fussing. No, you don't need to be hearing that. You. need to be hearing uh you knowity. >> Yes, sir. >> So, um Yeah. So, you know, there it is. Um I say two people want to be together, they'll be together. >> Yeah. >> And some people want to be together for. 6 months, some people want to be. together for a year, >> 60 years. >> Some people they really like to be with. and they together. You know, when you.

see these couples and um they've been. together so long, one dying, then a. couple of weeks later, the other one, they just I can't live without him. I've. been with this person so long, I can't. live without that person. >> Right on. Right on. Right on. God, you. know. Um Yeah, man. You know this, that, and the other. Growing up in California, what is what would you say was the. biggest difference between you growing. up in LA and you growing and spending. some time in Hattisburg, Mississippi?

It's all the same, but just different, but then it's all the same away. Not not. too much, but um in Mississippi, Alabama, um. it was okay to be it was okay not to. have on new stuff every day. >> Yeah. Ain't nobody have new stuff in the. country. >> Yeah. Uh [laughter]. it was okay to be from another part of. the ghetto. >> LA was was complicated. I never seen.

people piled up on top of each other. like that. It's more space down south. >> Even the houses are more. People got. big, you know. >> Yeah. You ain't on top of each other, >> man. LA it's like everything's all. comprised. You can't hardly park your. car. This everybody fighting over every. little inch. So, um, >> you know the saying that you throw your. dish water out, you throw it in somebody. else's yard. >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. So, but, uh, LA. had great weather. >> Mhm. >> Um,

in my opinion, the. the LA people, you know, they. they spoke probably better standard. English, you know, whatever. You know, we had southern accents and whatever. this back and forth. But um. I like the low riders. Um I never seen. rich black people till I got to LA. I. seen dudes with rings on, chains, and. like it was it was a trip. I ain't never. seen it. brothers with perms longing in.

women. >> strolling down the street, you know, Jerry curls and hopping low riders and. uh it was fascinating at the same time, you know, like u you know, I ain't never. seen I ain't never seen. uh. I mean it wasn't it wasn't the whole. city, but you know you know you see I. ain't never seen gangbangers or kind. mean black people. You know what I'm.

saying? >> You played football. Were you good at. football? >> You know, I'mma say yeah. I ain't going. to say no. [laughter] You know, I should. talking to Shannon Sharp, though. But, you know, I was a good I was. >> What position you played? >> Uh, I played tight end. >> Come on, man. >> I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I played. uh I was number 83. Uh I played I played. JV. I dropped out at the 11. So, I. played like JV and I was tight end. Got. two touchdowns. yard. >> That's it. >> That's it.

>> No football, no basketball, no baseball. >> I play basketball. I got one dunk. I got. >> You could dunk. >> Back in the day. Not now. [laughter]. >> I used to can do a double pump backwards. dunk. >> Come on. >> I I am not lying. I am not lying. Um I. got I got some high school homies that. have verified from me. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> So when you moved when you moved to LA. from Mississippi, what what was the. nickname the kids call you? Uh. >> cuz you probably got there around the.

time that movie came out. >> Yeah. You know, I hit so like um I we. was in the sixth grade and uh all the. boys in sixth grade was naming their. dick. You know what I'm saying? [laughter]. >> So like uh the teacher walk out the. room. So this one kid would go over. there to the napkins. He got a whole. bunch of them brown paper towels. Yeah. And he stuffed them in his pants. He. turned around to the class and he was. like, "Big Charlie.". [laughter] The class died laughing. So. another boy go load his pants up, man.

He Oh, Big D. So Big Joseph sounded kind. of goofy, you know. It [laughter] was. like a biblical character, you know. [screaming] So, you know, I'm sitting. around. I'm sitting in this a library to. the side of me. So, I see Joby. I see u. I see Moby Dick. Yeah. the whale story, >> right? >> So, I thought I flipped mine to Joby. Dick, you know? So, I stuffed all the papers in mine. I was. like, Joby Dick, there she blows. [laughter].

So, like, so that was we we was all. calling ourselves Big Charlie. Uh, you. know, you know, I was calling myself. Joby Dick, but I but I walk up to a girl. and just tell her my name was Big Joby. or just Joby. Yeah. You know, so I'd be. chilling with all the boys. We be. huffing and puffing, talking, then my. four girls walk by be like, "Hi, Joey.". And [laughter] then and then I grabbed. like, "Yeah, y'all know what's up.". So yeah, that was that was my that was. my little corny nickname, you know,

coming up. >> being uh being from uh Mississippi and. going to LA. Um that had to be. Was that. a culture shock for you? Because I think. Did they call you Cinte? >> Yes. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Cuz I, you know, I'm from. Mississippi. >> Yeah. the little smartass, little crack. babies. You know what I'm saying? I was. wellfed, you know what I'm saying? I was. smacking them around. I was too big for. my grade and [ __ ] You know what I'm. saying? They put them LA kids in school. earlier, you know, than Mississippi. So, you know, they had all kind of names for. me.

>> So, what time you um when you was in. Mississippi, you work you you hung. chickens because you say chickens is a. big commodity in Mississippi. >> Yes, sir. >> So, so you work you you worked on a um. like I guess in Arkansas it's called. Tyson's or I worked at the Chicken. plant. Chicken portrait. >> Yeah, it was a chicken they they had. they they had all kind of chicken plants. in Mississippi. Sanders Farm. Uh what's. mine? Marshall Derby. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So So what was you what was you at the. plant? Were you a deboner? Were you you. know you you uh they sent them through.

that hot ass water to get a lot to get a. lot of the feathers off. You you don't. have to do a whole lot. >> They they moved me around wherever they. needed me to be for that night. You know. what I'm saying? Uh but uh sometimes I. had to you know sometime we take the you. know they put them through the plucker. >> Yeah. >> And then or whatever then we they come. out we put them on the little rack. It's. been 26 years. I kind of remember but. it's been a minute. >> You started in Mississippi so you go to. California. Did you have like and you. grew grew up in California. Is that. where the the the love like you're like.

you know what. this is what I'm really going to do. I'm. I'm going to do this rap thing now. because at that point in time now they. now we got NWA and we got all the. >> Okay, so watch this. In Mississippi, them old black people down there made it. a point not to play rap music. [laughter]. >> Okay, >> I better turn that mess. Uhuh. They get. them little switches with them leaves at. the tip. They didn't play. But I got to. LA, >> rap music had a whole radio station.

Like I didn't have to sneak it. I could. just go in my room and just put on Kday. and I was in the whole rap game, you. know what I mean? Like, you know, world. premiere stuff back then. Greg Mac, Mac. Attack, Julio OG's, you know, all that. good junk. >> You sold your CD. Uh, a lot of people go. to the LA Swap Me to sell CDs, sell a. lot of things, clothing, beats, whatever. the case may be. If that was your first. introduction of becoming a hustler and. understanding that, you know, to do to.

to to get my music seen and heard, I'm. have to just roll up my sleeves and got. to do it myself. >> Yeah. Uh I was ready to I call myself I. was like a quarterback ready for the. flea flick. >> Okay. >> You know, I'm I'mma run it myself and. then if the right company step up, boom, I'mma pass it off. >> You know, pass it. I'm going in for the. touchdown. So, so I was hustling like. that and I started selling mine. >> like I made a rap song in the sixth. grade, but I made cassettes about my.

teacher in the eighth grade, >> right? >> So, I started selling them at school in. like I was selling my tapes in school. I. was like a little school MC like. >> So, you're in eighth grade. So, that's. when the the the the dissing of the. teacher, the Harry Kerry, all that took. place around that time, huh? >> Yeah. Harry Kerry was first in the sixth. grade and then later on in seventh grade. I was just moving around couldn't really. get established but in the eighth grade. >> I had something to write about you know. when I had the teacher and everything. and I made a tape in the eighth grade I.

learned how to make a tape during eighth. grade you know. >> now since you've been dissing folks for. the longest you understand about the. diss the diss song what is the greatest. diss track ever give me your top give me. your top five diss tracks ever. >> number one I'mma say no Vaseline. >> Okay. Q. Um, there's something I like about the.

bridges over, you know, car. It's like he rudely took over hip. hop. >> It's like, it's like he was wrong and. nobody could stop it, >> right? >> The bridge is over. The bridge is over. And he was just like like I I didn't. even listen to MC Shan that much, but I. was already on KRS one side like I. didn't even know I I play a little bit. of MC Shen and I I respected him and I. wanted to buy his tape but I play a. little bit but like compared to Caris. one just talking like man I just you.

know I had to catch Shen later. [laughter] and and all due respect to MC. Shen because I do like a lot of his. songs you know what I'm saying but that. I just thought like Caris one you know. it. He was doing that Jamaican stuff and. it was old school. I can't put it over. no Vaseline cuz like no Vaseline I'm. from the West, right? >> And and I could just. >> I I was just in that whole drama. I was. just loving Ice Cube. It's like he was. getting ganged up on by five people. Everybody had a burst, >> right? >> Damn.

>> What What about uh uh uh Hit The Him Up, Tupac. >> Um. >> Ether Nas. >> Um I'm going to I'm going to go with uh. let's see. Uh I liked um Real Compton. City G's. you know you know diss tracks all kind. of diss track you know damn um I like. Dre day okay but they had easy doing the. running man but I I do like Compton City. G's and uh.

oh damn I almost forgot I might have to. move this up to round number three. Uh and I love I love MC8. I love MCA. >> Okay. >> I love MCA, >> but. >> DJ Quick like that damn whatever that. was. That damn um. I'mma shake it to the right and shake it. to the left and um. damn. What? Oh, that make me mad. Come.

on. Help me. It was the DJ Quick MCA. dish. Um I forget what he called it. something about uh don't make dollars. that don't make sense. >> Dollars. >> Dollars and Ouch. Ice Cube first and then then maybe DJ. I. have to I have to play Scrambler. But. right play with them. Them is some of. the greatest disses in my opinion. Plus, I'm I'm sipping on this so I ain't got. them in order. But. >> why you got a song called Whack Rappers?

You believe they're like rappers are not. good and the guys that you got on this. list, they're pretty good, man. >> I wrote that a long time ago. when I was given my hip-hop music. opinion. Like I entered hip-hop as a. fan. >> Okay. >> I seen to me. rap music was a verbal king of the hill. I've seen rappers not even exist until.

they dissed people. Nobody knew who. Caris One was until he dissed. MC Sh. >> Nobody knew who Snoop Dogg was until he. just came in the door. Easy. He can eat. a big fatty. Damn, homie. [laughter] Who. is you? You know what I'm saying? So, I. was under the impression of. >> get your name out there. This is how you. you know and you know like after hit him. up you know cat start meeting up and. fighting and shooting and it got to the.

point where you could die for just. trying to challenge another rapper to a. a sport. So, in my younger day, you. know, um I got, you know, I felt some. kind of I either didn't like the hip hop. at the time or I got a condescending uh. transaction with them at a show. somewhere. >> to the point where. >> Drake is suing his label. Where are you. where are you on with uh u um with.

artists? And then sometimes, you know, they're trying to get their uh um. they're trying to get their their their. masters back or they they they're saying. misrepresentation. You stole something. Um a lot of people are surprised that. Drake is suing the label considering. that that was the big engine and and. Drake is probably the big I don't think. it's probably he's the biggest rapper in. the world right now and has been for at. least a decade. Are you surprised that he he's taken. this step. >> to what? Get his masters? >> No, he don't. I think he has his master,

but he's suing Universal. >> Um, well, uh, I don't know the ins and outs. of his business deal, so I I can't I. can't speak on the ins and outs of his. business deal. >> You were signed to Universal, right? >> Yes, sir. >> You had a six a six album deal. Do you like being independent or do you. like being signed to a label? >> I like being independent. >> What is it about independence? I can put. out a record when I get ready. >> Right. They got you on the timeline,

huh? >> If that they might not put you out. They. might not like what you're doing and. just. >> Oh, and keep you. >> if you just sign to them. You know, you. just, you know, they might go on. They're messing with other people. You're just a piece of paper in a file. cabinet. >> Do you make more? But you have to do. more work if you're independent. Correct. >> Now, now look here. There's deals. every day. You got to. choose. >> Okay.

>> You know, nobody. I don't regret signing with Universal. >> Okay. >> They had more money than what I was. making on the street. I was a thousand. there, >> right? >> But they had some millions. So, it was. time to stop playing, brush off my. knees, and stand up like, "Okay.". >> Okay. >> All right. Now, >> uh, everybody has exports. Um, America has. General Motors. >> Mhm. >> Um,

you know, Sony, somebody sells Sony TVs. and and whatever. Everybody has exports. Well, my export is rap music. >> Yes. >> So, I'm selling it to the highest. bidder. I'm looking for the best. I'm. looking for the best deal I can get. And. then I It's like this. There's a good. deal for today. >> That's not a good deal for tomorrow, right? You know what I'm saying? So, I'm. waking up today. give us this day our. daily bread, you know. So, so in that. day and time, it was a good deal. It was. a good move, >> right? >> Um, right after I made that move and I.

did what I did and the all the positive. moves were made, >> there was nothing else to be done. Uh, all the positivity was done. There was. nothing else. It was it was on a decline. from there. So, it was time to move on. So, there's a time to I mean, if. everything's good, then it's good. But, you know, after it's all said and done. and uh they through with you and it. ain't no more money, ain't no more. records, then I'm better off being. independent now,

>> right? >> You know, I was better on the label. then, >> right? >> But I'm better off independent right. now. Now, tomorrow, this evening after. this show, somebody might come to the. Afro, man, we got $8 million for you to. sign this two-year deal. Now it's better. to to make this move right now cuz I'm. not pulling this independently. Right. You see what I'm saying? So yeah, you. got to wake up every day and make a. decision. Yeah, brother. >> Right. Um, is there someone that you. haven't worked with that you like to. work with? >> Man, man, these days I'm a player. I.

want to work with everybody. That's. reasonable. That ain't talking about, you know, killing babies and, you know, and [laughter] drinking blood from the. devil's neck and all kind of crazy. stuff. Uh, I'm I'm looking for, matter. of fact, I like doing I do songs with. with regular fans sometime. I say, "Hey, man, >> today is $500 Friday. Send me $500 and a. beat." You know, and it cuz what I. realize is it's more about passion than. talent. I used to think it was about. talent and not all that other stuff, but.

you can have talent and people just. don't like you. >> cuz you know, but then you can have. passion, everybody. Biz Marquee. >> Yes. >> Can't sing word dog. First and last rap. tape my mama ever bought. I grew up in a. gospel home. No secular music. >> Yeah. >> Mom broke the rule one time and she. bought Biz Marque. He can't sing. >> Right. >> But she felt his passion. >> She said, "I love his song. He kept me. up one night. I was falling asleep at. work." She said, "This song came on.". She said, "I laughed myself back woke.". [laughter].

>> She said, "I made my shift." So, >> you tour with Snoop Dog. What's it like. touring with Snoop? >> Well, you know, man, uh, nothing but a G. thing. uh you know he's a icon so it's a. it's a dream you know I got a picture I. met him as a fan right. >> so you know it's it's a what they call. it three a full circle to to to share. the same stage want to come out and warm. up the crowd. >> you know what I'm saying so uh that's a. you know that's a. >> that's a browning points. >> for me.

>> you out you out smoke. >> you know what I'm saying I'mma tell you. yeah cuz we all team [laughter]. you know what I'm said, "You can't ask. me in front of the world, Craig.". [laughter] In front of the world? Yeah, I smoke Snoop, dog. You know what I'm. saying? Snoop can't hang with the afro. money making marijuana smoking mae. [laughter]. >> I saw you dancing on one of your shows. Can the audience see what the dance move. you doing at the show? >> Uh, one is the old school 1987 [ __ ] walk.

and then the other one is the running. man. Then I got the reverse running man. And then you know I got to pull some of. my old I'm so old. Old dancers is new, >> right? >> So if you hit them in front of them. young people they. >> they ain't see that book. >> They was born 20. They you know you. could be they could be 26 years old. Born in 2000. So I hit that 1991 80 89. [ __ ] them up. [laughter]. >> Oh he went backwards with it.

>> Thank you for stop. Is there anything. you want to promote? You got an album. coming out. You got a book coming out. What? What you got? >> Yes. Yes. Uh, my new album's out right. now. It's called Freedom of Speech. Uh, y'all check it out. Uh, go to OG Afroman. on YouTube, OG Afro Man on Instagram, and uh, stay down with Afro Man like. both flat tires and two spare tubes. The. hungry hustling American dream. >> Champion of free speech, Afro Man.

Appreciate you. >> Yes, sir. Amen. [applause]. Thank you again, Barberhop Cucks and. Cocktail, for having us today. If you're. ever in Las Vegas, make sure you find. your way out and grab a cut behind an. actual working barber shop for. cocktails, live music, and a night you. won't forget. >> All my life been [music] grinding all my. life, sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, want a slice, got to roll the dice. That's why all my life I've been. grinding all my life. Look, all my life. [music] been grinding all my life. Sacrifice hustle paid the price want a.

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