Why Is Everyone Crashing Out Over The Charlie Kirk Investigation? | Candace Ep 262

All right, you guys. Happy Monday. And is  everybody okay? I just want to check in to see if. everybody's feeling okay because there are a lot  of people online who are coming undone. What is it. about the Charlie Kirk investigation? What is it  about Charlie Kirk's assassination that is causing. so much panic? They're saying, "I faked the text  messages again, the ones I showed regarding Ben. Shapiro. They got AI analysis. These are fake.  They're sending experts, quote unquote, experts,

out to diagnose me and my show, and they've  decided we're a cult. Okay. Over the weekend, Grock, literally the AI robot, crashed  out. He he crashed out. He couldn't keep. up with the lies about me. And so then he  stated the robot on top of a trend that. Candace Owens has accused Marcus Hail of  murdering Charlie Kirk this past October. I don't know what's going on. I'm just going to  say that it's kind of weird how the only people.

that seem to believe the Fed story are Zionists  and they demand that we accept the Fed story and. their panic is making me think that we're getting  closer to something and that something is pretty. big and it's going to imply a lot of people. Um,  I don't know. Today I'm gonna tell you guys about. a particular person who is connected to Charlie  Kirk and January 6th. So welcome back to Candace.

[Music]. Okay. Okay. So, something that I want to say right  at the top here before we get further into the the. Charlie Kirk story and speaking about January  6th and how somehow that's connected. There's. something I learned that's bothering me. Just  going to put it out there. See if it bothers you.

as well. But I learned via tips that the feds  immediately seized the footage at Temponogos. Hospital. Okay, Temponogos Hospital. Remember  this is the hospital that it was quite strange. that they moved to take Charlie to uh because  it was further and also less equipped than UV. hospital. Like it was like UV was a trauma 1 and  Tonogos was trauma 3 and bunch of people said very. strange that they took him here and then it got  strange because we started hearing from other.

people that he was definitely at UV hospital. It  was very weird. Anyways, I'd like to add to that. by saying that on the day that Charlie was shot,  for whatever reason, you know, Cash Patel injects. himself into it, the feds seized all of the  footage at the hospital that Charlie was brought. to at Timbonos. That doesn't make sense to me.  Nothing makes sense to me in this whole story. So, this is just kind of the icing on, you know,  on the top here. Not even the icing on the top, but why would they move to seize that footage? How  is that going to help their investigation? What's.

happening inside of Temponogos? How is that going  to help their investigation? Their immediate boots. on the ground investigation into who shot Charlie  Kirk? They're trying. They're on a manhunt. Why. are they going, "Okay, let's at first grab the  footage at Tanogo." Does that make sense? Were. you worried? Did a nurse call 911 and say, "Oh,  a guy just ran in here with a gun and you need to. see seize the the footage because that's going to  help you track him down." If that didn't happen, why are you seizing that footage? I don't know.  with everything that is going on and I would say.

almost the lack of information that we have  at Tempanog, not a single person who captured. uh them pulling up, nothing despite the fact that  there were news cameras outside waiting oddly from. like a new a New York news channel. Uh we have not  seen anything regarding that that we can build in. confidently on our timeline that would let us  know what time in particular Charlie arrived. at the hospital. And I feel like something's  a miss if the feds moved to grab the footage.

inside of the hospital immediately and outside of  the hospital immediately. So, just putting it out. there. If you maybe were somebody who has footage  and saw that black SUV pull up at the hospital, please get that to us at more tips at kennison.com  because it's starting to bother me. Something. there is starting to feel a miss. Everything's  a miss. Anyway, there also happens to be another. interesting constellation that's building here  because as I said at the top, there is something.

about this investigation into Charlie Kirk and  who who assassinated him that is causing extremely. powerful people to panic. A network of powerful  people. And by powerful people, I mean the feds. Okay, I don't know about you, but I'm starting  to wonder if every major publicly traumatizing. event may have actually just been organized by  the feds. And rather than blaming themselves,

the strategy that they always employ is to get  out a narrative, a sloppy narrative like we saw. this time with the Charlie Kirk assassination.  That is one thing that I will say is so amazing. The only thing that has been amazing about the  Charlie Kirk assassination is that it has brought. the left and the right together. And what I mean  by that is typically we're ready to take the Fed. slop. This time it was the messages obviously and  they're like, "Oh, my dad's MAGA. He just he was.

magging too hard." And the left was supposed to  go, "See, it's his dad's fault. Magga's bad.". And then the right was supposed to go, "Look, he  transerson bad." This time though, we all went, "This is too evil. It feels orchestrated."  And do you guys always do this? Like, is this what you guys do? That definitely Now that  I'm reflecting, and I am including myself in this, that was kind of my old vibe, left or right.  That was definitely the vibe of January 6th,

right? We all took the bait. Just own it.  Okay? If you're a lefty, own it. You were like, "MA is bad. If you're on the right, own it." We  were like, "The left is bad. They're overthrowing. an election." And we we did it on January 6th,  2020. I can tell you where I was. I was 9 months. pregnant, my first child. And I was super MAGA at  this time. I would have definitively gone to this. Stop the Steel rally, but I was just too pregnant  to go. And I was living in DC, so it was just down. the street from me. And I reflect on that and I  think, wow, that saved me because I I could have.

been swept up in what happened on January 6th. I  could have been there. We all know how the story. goes. Trump hosts this speech. She has this rally  and then afterward people quote unquote storm the. capital, break through the barriers and there's  an insurrection and CNN is showing these clips. in the footage and it's funny for me especially  cuz I was right up the road and as a resident of. DC literally living there and I was thinking how  strange it was. I'm sitting on the couch with my.

husband and we start getting all these phone  calls like from my sisters and family members. asking if we're okay and we didn't have the news  on and we're like yeah we're okay. So strange that. you're calling. We don't even hear any noise.  And it was actually the first time that there. was peace in DC, meaning it was the summer of BLM  riots. So, it was strange that we never got called. when people's cars were getting smashed and things  were being burned to the ground. But suddenly, we were getting phone calls because the media was  there, you know, right there. MAG has gone too far. and and they were showing all this footage and it  was out of place. Right now, I knew instantly as a.

DC resident that the feds were involved because  of the pipe bombs. That was it. I was I I knew. they were involved when I heard that pipe bombs  were mysteriously dropped off the night before. um at the DNC headquarters, RNC headquarters,  and we just don't know who did that because. I live there and there it's I mean it's it's the  capital so every square inch there's a camera. You. just can't do that. You can't just get away from  being a couple of blocks away from the White House.

and dropping off pipe bombs, right? Anyways, this  weekend after five long years, finally the person, and I I will say allegedly, uh, because I guess  we're gonna have to wait for the feds to dispute. this, but the person responsible for dropping  off those pipe bombs was revealed to be a fed. More specifically, a 31-year-old woman and  a United States Capitol police officer named. Shaunie Ray Kirkoff. Right. a man named reporter  named Steve Baker deserves all of the credit on.

this amazing discovery. And I'm going to let you  listen to Glenn Beck who is interviewing Steve. Baker to tell you about how he came across this  footage and how that went down when I stumbled on. what I stumbled on. And because I, as I said,  I've been pulling these threads for years and. I pulled one last Wednesday, a week, two weeks  ago today rather. And when I pulled this thread,

I was so shocked by what I saw, I immediately  took it to a source in one of the most important, highest level investigative federal agencies  in the country. I immediately took it to our. sources there and I said, "You have to see this."  After they looked at it for about two hours, the. response that I got back was, "Holy f". And then  the follow-up response was, "She's one of us.".

And when you find out the position, um, I mean,  this is going to lead, it's not just this one. person. This now will implicate so many people at  the highest levels that had to have known because. of of what happened after January 6th. I mean,  it's it's but this I mean, how big does this.

net get? How big does this net get? I'm feeling  this way about the Charlie Kirk investigation. A. lot of people are going to get swept up in this  investigation. perhaps the same people that are. going to get swept up in the January 6th and it's  not going to be this left or right story right. now. Much more is going to come out. I'm not here  to cover all of January 6th uh and and what they. have been unpacking. More will come out in the  coming days. What we do know is, like I said, this.

was a 5-year investigation. It involved forensic  analysis. Uh, a CIA spokeswoman Liz Lion stated. that Shaunie Kirkoff, uh, the alleged person who  dropped off these pipe bombs, worked in campus, Capitol Police campus security. Uh, she lives in  Alexandria, Virginia. She is apparently now under. the watch of law enforcement officers because  the Blaze news editor-inchief decided to pull. up to her house to just kind of see if any action  was happening at her home. And then he instantly.

got stopped by local police before they allowed  him to leave. Now, Surprise, surprise. I think. it's always the feds. And we might be being ruled  by criminals like I don't know, Jeffrey Epstein. Who? Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?  We're still talking about Jeffrey Epstey. Now, if we are allowed to follow this idea that the  feds are behind major politically divisive events, then we have to ask ourselves who exactly was  behind organizing the stop the steel rally event.

itself. And interestingly enough, on the quote  unquote Republican side, Christian Zionist pastors. were heavily involved in not just influencing the  public, right? Uh understanding right away telling. the public, the Republicans, that we had to fight  for justice, they went out immediately follow the. following election uh results. One person was  Lance Wallno. Okay, I want you to remember this. guy's name. Lance Wallno. Immediately, just 3  days after the election of 2020, on November 6th,

he publishes this onto his Facebook page. Okay?  It says, "We're going to expose the fraud and stop. the steel. The Lord our God is with us and we were  built for this battle. Be strong and courageous.". So that's three days after he's saying, "Stop  the steel. Be strong. Be courageous." And Lance, who is a charismatic preacher, wasn't the  only charismatic preacher or pastor that. instantly threw their weight behind quote unquote  stopping the steel. Actually, four out of the six.

uh protest permits that were issued on January 6th  were issued to independent charismatic Christian. groups. Okay. 15 of these pastors and leaders  surrounded Trump at the White House leading up. to the January 6th um stop the steel rally telling  him that the war was now spiritual. So they're in. his ear. This is spiritual. This is what you have  to do. Uh Mr. President, okay, there's an article.

about that. The new apostolic reformation drove  the January 6th riots. So why was it overlooked. by the House Select Committee? This person asks.  Okay. NAR. I brought this up to you before. Lance. Wallnau is in this article. So is Shan Fu.  Now you're thinking uh these names might sound. familiar. Certainly Sean Foy, I brought him up to  you regarding TPUs faith who who started to lead. uh these events that they were having. So who  is Lance Wall now? Well, he is one of these.

NAR preachers like I said who came up with their  seven mountain mandate. Okay. Charlie began to be. get become very interested in the seven mountain  mandate. I would say like he became mesmerized. by the seven mountain mandate. He became friends  with Lance Wall. Now I'm going to let you listen. to Lance himself describe this seven mountain  mandate in his own words. Hi, I'm Lance Walnau.

I want to talk to you for a moment about this  concept called the 7M mandate. In reality, it started with a conversation I had in the year  2000. I had been talking to Lauren Cunningham. who's the founder of Youth with a Mission and  Lauren was sharing with me about a conversation. he had had with Bill Brightite. The two of them  were visited actually by the Lord within the same. 24 hours and God spoke to them and said they had a  message to give the other man. And the message was. that there are seven molders of culture or seven  world kingdoms and that he who could take those.

kingdoms could take the harvest of nations. Now  this illustration is the way I see it. I look at. it this way. I see those seven molders of culture  as being the religion mountain as a metaphor for. something you've got to take or climb. Uh then we  have education, we could say, family. These are. in no particular order of importance. They all  represent the forces that shape societies and. nations. government, media, art which is the  entertainment mountain and uh business which.

is where we have the economics mountain happening  also. Now these seven fields of influence are very. powerful. So powerful in fact that he who occupies  the top of those mountains can literally shape the. agenda that that forms nations. The foundation of  the prosperity of nations is going to have to be. the teaching of Jesus. The good news is you can do  that covert or you can do that overt. You can be.

like I always say, you could actually be following  that thing from Jehovah Reef Roofi, Jehovah Ni, Jehovah Sidkanu, or Jehovah Sneaky. Because God  has a way of getting into positions, companies, businesses, nations, and communities before the  devil even knows what got in there. Because the. gospel is bigger than just the church mountain.  It's the gospel that covers the whole earth.

So what he's describing there and what they  believe is that there are new prophets, there. are new apostles, they have the seven mountain  mandate. And when he is speaking about covertly, he means that. Okay, this is a philosophy of  infiltration. And he says, but before people. even know, boom, he describes it as a devil.  Before people know, boom, everyone around them is. actually working for a higher purpose. Man, I got  to say kind of sort of reminds me of what happened. to Charlie, right? This is kind of where this is  going. Turning Point Faith, everywhere that I'm.

investigating, turning point faith keeps coming  up. These characters keep coming up and there's. a pattern that I'm noticing that a lot of these  mainstream pastors and preachers actually come. from highranking military families. High ranking  military families that have been around for a. long time. ties to the Navy times uh ties to the  Air Force, Frank Turk, Air Force. Uh Rob McCoy, we discussed about his background, his naval  background, psychological operations. They're.

literally named like a fleet of ships after his  father. Uh like there was like the McCoy naval. something. Lance Wallnau, he's no different. He  graduated from a military academy. His father, Carl Walnau, was a major in the United States  Air Force. Okay. Wall now served under General. Patton. After the war, he then continued his  adventures as a field engineer for standard oil, okay, building high pressure uh liquid propane  installations throughout political revolutions.

in the world. So he he would go and do that in  Haiti, in Cuba, Dominican Republic, places that. I would argue that we cause a lot of drama in.  I'm just saying. So Lance fits the pattern well. And before I tell you how he is very connected to  Turning Point USA faith, uh, I do want to also be. clear that Frank Turk stands out because he flat  out acknowledged on one of his podcasts that NAR.

was a cult. Actually darker than a cult. Take  a listen to what Frank Turk said about NAR. So. technically a group and NAR stands for what again?  I'm sorry, the New Apostolic Reformation. That's. Bill Johnson out there in California, Northern  California. We'll talk about him in a minute. uh but word of faith movement they don't  necessarily add subtract multiply or divide. but they're hermeneutic the way they interpret the  scriptures is aberrant and it and they interpret.

the scriptures in such a way that their practice  uh follows this aberant theology that they have. and they wind up doing things that are more newagy  or more even occult-like than they are Christian, the occult and that is correct. Now, Frank Turk,  this didn't stop him uh didn't or I didn't make. him go warn Charlie about this in any way as these  people began to infiltrate his organization and.

Lance Wall worked his way into Turning Point USA.  I had a phone call with someone, by the way, who's. extremely close to this current administration,  and they said completely off-handedly, we were. not even really discussing Charlie, but then they  said, you know, something that's really weird. I was at Charlie's memorial. She said, "When  did Turning Point become so faith focused?". She's like, "I remember obviously Charlie always  spoke about his evangelical faith." She's like, "But when you guys were running around  starting all these Turning Point chapters, it was all about free markets and capitalism."  And she was like, "And I was at the rally and. it was suddenly faith, faith, faith, faith,  pastor, pastor, pastor, pastor." And I said,

you know, that is actually interesting. That is  true that it just kind of started um and then it. was almost the biggest thing about Turning Point.  It's really interesting to consider that Turning. Point suddenly got super duper faithful with what  I would say is an interesting cast of characters, the wrong characters. Okay, Rob McCoy leading  that frontier as we know. What people don't. know publicly is that Lance Wall now was working  with him. Okay. He was intimately involved and.

more importantly, he was financially involved.  Sources within Turning Point's faith department. tell me that Lance was running the show behind the  scenes through funding that he put a ton of money. into Turning Point USA faith operations. Now, um I  guess a better way for me to state this cuz I want. to be super clear here is that Lance Wallnau, who  was from a military family and who is saying that. he believes in infiltration as a means to climb  mountains and overtake society, however he just.

described that, right, was privately directing  large sums of money into turning point faith. Okay. He's friends with Rob Macau, Rob McCoy.  Um, and he eventually did tour stops with Turning. Point Faith and he knew Charlie. He said Charlie  was his friend. I think truly as a society that. we need to start focusing our attention, okay,  independently, uh, Village Crazy Lady. I told you.

guys about Mel on X. She's been doing great work  on this. But you need to start investigating this. faith mil military constellation. We can call it  the militant faith pipeline because it's getting. a little much for me. I mean, I told you guys, you  start looking at that and you wonder about other. events that have happened in the past, right?  There were a ton of conspiracies following October. 1st, 2017 when the Las Vegas shooting happened,  largest mass shooting in American history,

and it was almost instantly covered up. 58  people were murdered. More than 600 others. were injured. And they told us that it was just a  lone shooter, Steven Paddock, some crazy guy who. acted alone. Conspiracy theorists said it was a  military operation. And there was ton of evidence. to support that. Okay. Fast forward a year later  on November 7th of 2018, and there's almost this.

like Las Vegas shooting hangover that happens in  uh Thousand Oaks, California. Oddly, uh about 40. people who were at the Las Vegas shooting were all  at the borderline bar one night when a Marine who. family knows Rob McCoy well. Rob McCoy is friends  with that Marine uh decides to that Marine's. mother decides to storm into a bar and conduct a  mass shooting. And a victim of that bar shooting.

was a 27-year-old Navy veteran who had survived  the Las Vegas shooting. So, it just makes me. wonder, was he a victim or was he a target? Right?  We have to start asking these questions. Um, this is a headline from the BBC regarding the  Las Vegas shooting uh and thousand I'm sorry, the Thousand Oak shooting at the Borderline Bar  and Grill. The Las Vegas shooting survivor being. among the dead. We're not getting answers to any  of these questions and they're telling everybody.

that these are just conspiracies. It's always a  conspiracy. Uh when you start questioning these. Fed narratives, uh one survivor said that the  group of them were meeting up for a second time. in about a year, having I guess like a little Las  Vegas reunion, and that's why they were all there. Uh the the point being is following this, a month  after this, Rob McCoy then gets elected mayor of. um of Thousand Oaks. He's mayor for a year. And  I'm just starting to ask a lot of questions about.

what is happening here. Uh who is funding these  groups? Who is funding these pastors? Who is. funding these churches? We're getting a lot of  weird stories about these churches uh that are. coming out. I shared something over the weekend  about Romanian sex trafficking on my on my ex feed. um that is involving one of these churches, one  of these big churches out in California. And I'm. saying it's time to start proddding the narrative  because I'm thinking that perhaps faith has been.

hijacked. And like I said, and we are going to  have some explosive stuff for you on Wednesday. um that we have discovered about this Charlie  case. The faith element is compelling and I am not. convinced that these people that stand on stages  and tell you to stop following Tucker Carlson. are working on behalf of the Lord. Okay? I don't  think that that's the case. I think these people.

that are telling you that you are not allowed to  question Israel or you're going to go to hell are. not working on behalf of God. I think that they  worship specific people with military ties. In. fact, they are just following orders. But there's  a picture here that's emerging that we should not. ignore. So, we we will pause there um before we  get into some of these bizarre responses that I've. been going through, militant responses that I've  been going through on ex from Christian Zionists.

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places. And that uh former megaurch pastor, I'm  going to give you his name here, Paul Havsgard, right? A missionary. Again, this element of  missionary going around the world on these. missions. I just something is just stinking to  high heaven. I'd like to press my finger here. And. I don't particularly love the reaction that we're  seeing from Christian Zionist right now. I don't. even know how to describe what is happening over  in Christian Zionist land. It is wacky. It's It. is definitively exceptional. I've never seen it.  There's anger. There's tears. There's frustration.

There's fatigue. There's defeat. And of course,  there's biblical scripture. Right. When my show. hit number one globally last week, it was just an  allout virtual war. Seth Dylan from the Babylon. tweeted this. This is hilarious. He obviously  just tweets a verse trying to make it seem like. again this is what they do Christian Zionists.  They will find a ver a verse to be petty and. like use scripture to justify who they really  just want to insult me or Ter Carlson to. And. what do you benefit if you gain the whole world  but lose your own soul? Okay. Like that's not.

like that is are you out of your mind? Actually,  I didn't sell my soul, right? All of you guys did. I had to literally build from scratch because  I was rejected everywhere plus cancelled. You. you shut down. You went after my sponsors. You  emailed people. You got me banned from Australia. I actually did the exact opposite. I didn't sell  my soul and I said what was right about what was. happening in Gaza. So, there's that. Joel Barry,  who also was at the Babylon, so real funny guys,

um wrote this. In the last year, Candace  and Tucker have given our side nothing. but demoralization, division, confusion, and  conflict. Their impact on the right has been. devastating. They've made us weaker, and  they've won nothing except clicks and ad. revenue for themselves. Pathetic. Strange. I've  never been on the same side as Joel Barry. Just. want to clarify that. I am never on the side  of people that cheer on kids being killed and. uh churches being bombed and and insinuate as he  did that even the Christians in Gaza should are.

aren't really human beings and that they're all  supporting Hamas which is basically justifying a. genocide, right? Justification of genocide. I  have never been on your side. Then there were. these compounding lies. Okay. Obviously, last  week we watched Ben press Megan on stage. Very. strange to see him do something like that,  to see him just lie and try to pressure her. with the lie. And it was also on the day that it  was announced that this podcast was number one.

globally. I responded on my show with the truth.  Showed you screenshots of what Charlie had said, said told you honestly that he had kind of  prevented Charlie from coming up. And that. was certainly how Charlie felt. And then some guy  on Frank Mc named uh Frank McCormack on X started. circulating. And then of course I instantly made  a trend that I forged the text messages that I. just made them up and I was just going to be so  risky and throw these text messages up and just.

lie as if I wasn't going to get debunked quickly.  Anyways, this is what he wrote on there. Candace. Owens recently posted what she claims are more  text messages from Charlie Kirk. He asked chat. GPT to analyze. Look at this next one. Um, if you  want to skip over to the next, he he analyzed the. bubble design, the profile placement, the header  layout, font spacing, color balance, and he. discovered that these were digitally fabricated.  Bro, you didn't have to do any of that. You could.

just asked me to show you the messages. I I  show messages on this show. Like, I'm happy. to show you guys this live. So, just to give you  the receipts here. Wait, Skyler, can you tell me. in my ear what did the message even say? Because  I can look it up. Just give me like a sentence. Okay, keep going. Okay, hold on. Uh, that's not populating. It was  because I the way that it's spaced. Can you give.

me the sentence after that? There we go. That  will work. We just have to treat him like noise. Are there typos in that? Here we go. I found  it. There we go. A little bit of typos. There. we go. Okay. Here we go, guys. Just to show you  this. Just looked up on my phone. These are not. made up text messages. You probably want to see  the date here and see the time sliding. Hold on.

We did not make up these messages. Okay.  Iron sharpens iron. It's not a dominant. partnership. Each hand washes the other. It is  what Christ talked about as true partnership. Reliant yet separate. None other dominant.  Of course, there were struggle disagreement, but each side gets stronger and sharper because of  the other. This is us describing our partnership. These are just real. What an absolute nonsense  to think that I would make up text messages. Like.

it's just such a nonsense. I don't even know  what would be the point of that. What would. be the point of that? Okay, I was very clear at  the beginning of this entire thing. No fakeness. and no gayness. You know, I ask that if you, you  know, didn't get along with Charlie, you don't. think that you can just drop a million dollars and  then rewrite history. Okay? You might have money, we have truth. That's what's on our side. Also,  to build upon that, I saw a clip of Ali Stucky, who I very much like. I ve I've been clear about  that. I very much like Ali Stucky. very surprised.

she's working with Alyssa Cordova, but she's  also in very rare form. I don't know what's. driving that. And she kind of, I guess I don't  know when this live was taken, presumably over. the last week. I just saw it circulating. Said to  people that we should shouldn't be asking these. questions about the Charlie Kirk assassination.  Anyways, I'm not going to put words in your mouth. Listen to Ally Stucky. I'm just really tired of  some of y'all not thinking. I really am. You say. that you're seeking truth and asking questions,  but you're actually just outsourcing your critical.

thinking and your question asking to someone else  and you're never really asking questions. You're. never saying does that make sense? Or what could  be the other side of that story? Or what is the. alternative explanation for that? Or are these two  things actually connected by evidence or does it. just sound compelling? This is not a Netflix  series. It's not an Agatha Christie novel. You're not watching a who done it movie. These are  people's real lives. And if you are implicating a. real person in a murder plot, you better be 100%  sure that it is true and backed by hard evidence.

Think. Turn on your brain. The thoughts we  think and the words we say not only affect. real people's lives, but they carry weight  in eternity. We are responsible for these. things. I'm going to take that seriously, but  you should, too. Look y'all, I don't even want. There's I've just been wrestling with this so  much over the past few weeks. I don't want the.

drama. I don't I don't have the the the time and  energy that it takes to go through to make all. of these claims first is incredible. But then  to go through and debunk all of these claims, I don't have that time. I don't have that  energy. I don't have that capacity. I don't. Look, Ally, I I just think she should take a  break. Like, I genuinely didn't even know she. was going through it like this. Like, I didn't  I don't think we asked her for any assistance at.

all. Actually, I did all the work. Um, and people  sent me stuff and then we put together a timeline. And here's what I want to say because you're  saying it's real life. It was Charlie's real life, Ally. That was Charlie's real life when you saw  him sitting there and he got shot. That was his. real life. So, I feel like that that's the part  you're missing because you're so worried about. the surrounding cast of characters who have been  literally caught lying. They lied. That's why. we're here. Okay? We didn't just randomly pluck  people up from obscurity. Okay? These are people. who said he had blood on him. He's amazing. He  was so amazing, but he walked away from Charlie.

as he was bleeding out. His real life. That was  his real life. Okay? So, that's what's on the. line right here is he's not here anymore. Maybe  you're not worried about him. Um, but I am. I'm. actually worried and I want to know what happened  to Charlie Kirk, okay? And why I feel like you and. so many Christian Zionists just kind of wanted to  turn him into a ghost. Like, you know, Charlie the. friendly ghost and are not interested at all. And  if you're looking for real life Agatha Christie. stuff, uh, in real life, people's necks don't stop  306 bullets. In real life, that's all I'm saying.

In real life, when you spend millions of dollars  on security, on your security detail, they don't. have you sitting like a sitting duck and forget  to have an ambulance behind you. In real life, I worked for Turning Point USA, and I know what  does not make sense in terms of the timeline of. how this event came together. And in real life, if  somebody suspects you in a murder for any reason. whatsoever, and you can put something out publicly  that will clarify a fact that isn't correct,

if you say it's not correct, you would do that.  You wouldn't hide in 4 seconds. I would say, "Oh, this is oh, the reason why I was on the phone with  so and so had nothing to do with anything." So, people are following their instincts because  they should. But I just want to remind you. because it bothers me that that was Charlie's real  life. Okay, that was Charlie's real life. Ally, right? And move on for that. See, you're stressed  out. I'm stressed out, too, to be honest with you. And we're not the only people that are stressed  out because apparently Grock is stressed out. because it can't keep up with the lies that are  being spread about me. So, he had some sort of.

a a software crash out. This was him being like,  "I'm tired. I'm tired." And sitting in his car. I'm just going to show you what Grock said at  the top here. Um, no, I want the Grock headline. Candace Owens accuses Turning Point USA of Charlie  Kirk assassination role. And then it says Candace. Owens alleged Turning Point USA orchestrated the  October 15th, 2025 assassination of its founder,

Charlie Kirk, in Phoenix, Arizona by former  volunteer Marcus Hail, who police say acted. alone with no evidence. Ben Shapiro publicly  condemned Owens's claims as evil. And then yeah, he it's just none of this is real. Like you  guys are exhausting not just Ally Stucky, you're. exhausting Grock. So much so many lies being made  up about me. If you don't have time to look at the. facts and see what we've come up with and that's  fine, but you're not required to interject here. I just want everybody to know that. Grock, Ally,  everyone, you are not required to take part in.

this. And we're not stopping. Okay? And I just  sense I just sense that we're getting close. And. when I tell you on Wednesday what we discovered  about those Egyptian military planes, I think some. more people are going to be on the run. Anyways,  the oddest response came from Mark Levvin, who has been kind of psychopathically obsessed  with destroying Tucker Carlson for years now. He was very happy when Tucker Carlson got fired  from Fox News. They don't seem to be friends. And.

it regarding Mark Levin, if a person was actually  like, "You should move to Israel because it would. make you happy happier." If that was a person,  that would be Mark Leavvin. Okay. Turning point. USA, credit to them, said, "We are not canceling  Tucker Carlson." Despite the pure pressure, despite them sending out every queen and pawn on  the board to make that happen, they said, "He's. still speaking." And not only is he speaking, but  why don't why don't you debate uh Mark Leavvin,

debate Tucker Carlson on stage. And this is how  Mark Leavvin responded. It's incredible. And. I'm actually going to roll the whole thing. It's  about 2 and a half minutes, but I want you guys. to listen to him. I got a very strange text this  morning from Tucker Carlson, 10:16 a.m. I'll read. it to you for verbatim. Good morning. He writes  to me, "The leadership at Turning Point has asked. me to debate you at their event in Scottsdale in  December. I'm happy to do it, and I hope you'll. agree as well. Beyond the personal insults which  I'll try to keep to a minimum, there are real and.

important ideological differences between us  and I think the country would benefit from an. extended conversation about them. So again,  I hope you'll accept. Let me know. Thanks. The guy is desperate. He's taking a hit on his  podcast. He's fighting like hell for his career. He's fighting like hell for his reputation.  People are awakening to what scum he actually. is. And he thinks I'm going to platform him. He  thinks I'm going to help him kick up his podcast.

ratings. What would Charlie say? What would Rush  say? What would any rational response? Here it. is. I wrote him the following. My family and I  want nothing to do with you. what you've become, your vile liables against my faith, millions  of Christians, and in my view, what you seek to. do to our country. There's nothing to debate.  You're a Nazi promoter. You're the modern-day.

David Duke. I debate people with whom I disagree  for a living, who are a lot smarter than you, but for whom I have some respect. I'm also  disappointed in TPUSA that continues to platform. you. It's not about free speech. You could be  heard by millions regardless. Some unsolicited. advice. Stop long enough to remember who you  used to be and what you used to stand for. So,

as expected, knee-jerk, for the record, I'm  strongly anti-Nazi. Does he sound that way to you, America? Oh, you're going to hear more. But  that's hardly the point. This seems like the. perfect opportunity to rebut what you consider  evil ideas and to do it to my face like a man. I'd think you'd jump at the chance assuming  you believe your positions are defensible. I'm. offering the marketplace of ideas you often talk  about. Is it possible you can't really defend,

for example, what Israel has done to civilians  in Gaza? I said, there you go. You're not feared. You're despised. Well, you're a coward. And  if you change your mind, I'm here. Thanks. You little bastard. You attacked my my  stepson. You didn't do that face to face, did you? You stabbed him in the back  while he's serving President Trump on. his second tour while he's in safe rooms  with ballistic missiles passing over his.

head. You little bastard. Nobody's afraid  of you. I'd rather debate a skunk than you. Is he good? Is everybody okay? Like what? This  would be your opportunity to reveal Tucker. Carlson to the world since you say like that he's  a fraud and he's lying and all of his stuff. Like. why wouldn't you readily accept that debate?  Why are you so focused on canceling him? And.

lol to you saying that you don't want to platform  Tucker Carlson. Yeah. You know what? I decided on. this podcast. I'm not going to platform Taylor  Swift. Yeah. I'm not going to platform her. So, if she ever wants to come with this podcast, I  will not platform. Like, are you this delus? You. cannot be that delusional. You cannot be that  delusional. What are you saying? Something is. happening. I'm telling you guys, this is like a  full Zionist crash out since Charlie died. And. I just feel like they sent a very real threat um  to the little matrix that they established. And.

um so much so that I'm actually proud to announce  that I have finally caught the final Pokemon ball. I've long said that in terms of the names I get  called in the media, I feel like I'm I'm playing. Pokemon. I just got to catch every single ball.  When they try to cancel you, that's what they do. They call you all sorts of things. Anti-Semitic.  I've been called a self-hating black person. I've been called a homophobe. I've been called a  trans phobe. I've been called crazy. Um, I've been. diagnosed as suffering from postpartum depression,  a postpartum psychosis, a postpartum depression,

and I didn't think there was anything left for me  to grab, but it's here. It's final. I've now won. the game. And they are calling me a cult leader.  Yeah. So, because I survived all their attacks. and have focused my energy on what I wanted  to build and not on who I wanted to destroy, they have decided that that's because I'm leading  a cult. Now, when I think of a cult, I typically. think of people who say like, "Oh, um, you're  going to get into heaven if you defend BBNet.

and Yahoo, right? It says it right here in the  Bible that if you don't unfollow Candace Owens, you won't go to heaven." That to me is cult  language, promising people that their souls. um are are somehow tied to following your  instructions. I'm just trying to figure out. who killed Charlie Kirk. Okay, that's all. I want  to know who killed my friend. Well, Carrie Smith, who is the host of the podcast Deprogrammed  with Carrie Smith, says that she was formerly. of a cult mindset and so she's an expert on this  and she has now watched 10 episodes of this show.

She watched the Charlie Kirk series and she has  determined that if you are interested in what I. have to say and what I am uncovering about Charlie  Kirk's assassination, then you you at home are in. a cult. Take it away, Carrie. I do think it's  a cult. I think she is exhibiting several cult. uh tactics. She's demonstrating several different  tactics. I think she's using manipulative language.

and a lot of cluster B personality disorder  behavior. I think that it's easy to observe that, but apparently it's it's not easy for some people,  I guess. And I'm I'm assuming maybe that's because. they haven't been through that before with  someone. maybe they haven't experienced it. before. And so this is not an episode for people  who are in that cult. It's not an episode for. people who are just hanging on every word and  following it. And uh I've interacted with quite.

a few of you. And I'm not trying to convince you.  You're obviously not going to be happy with this. episode and call me all kinds of names. I've been  over the weekend um called every kind of a Jew, a Jew lover. Um, I'm getting paid7,000. Why don't  I go suck blah blah blah? Like just terrible, very angry things. And um, that's okay. This isn't  for you. This is an episode for normies who are.

trying to figure out what's happening because like  a lot of us, they used to put a lot of trust in. Candace Owens and some of these other influential  figures and they're like, "What is happening? What. happened to her?" So, what happened to me was  that I I saw Charlie the Circuit get shot in the. throat. But I do want to just bring her up for a  second without playing it. I I can't be the only. person that's really stressed out by how she's  organizing those books. Like that is like I've. that ism that is I don't like the way those books  are at all. That really is stressing me out. So,

she's lucky I'm not nine months pregnant because  this would not fly. I would be organizing that. Like why the different levels? Anyways, she's  queen of diagnosing this I guess. Cluster B. personality. Now what I will say is this is if  you go back any fed operation co whenever you. don't follow the federal narrative if you don't  listen to the government they always diagnose. you with mchavellian what do they call it like  the dark triad traits mchavellian narcissistic. and they say that you're in a cult if you don't  wear a mask save lives they did the same exact.

stuff you can go back literally go back this is  their final stage of we're not getting people. to behave and listen to us so we're going to  diagnose them and She listed all of the reasons, the signs that I was in a cult and about seven  of them. She, one of them is forced teameming. She says that I use inclusive language like us,  us, we, we, we will solve this. Again, what is it. about they and we? What is it about plurality that  stresses these people out so much? These are just.

words. I do think we are going to solve this.  I say we because all the information I have is. thanks to the tip slide. So, we're all kind of in  this together trying to put the pieces together to. figure out who killed Charlie. Um, uh, yeah. She  also says that I repeat myself constantly, that I. use sarcasm. And I would say that this is sounding  a lot like my toddlers who could be in a cult. Now that she, now that I'm thinking about it, she  might be right because they are laughing. They are.

sarcastic. They definitely have used terms like we  and us when they address me and their father and. they repeat themselves the whole time. The whole  time. So, uh, stay tuned. And then my favorite. part is that she says like we have a phrase and  it's if you don't know no like we don't know no, but we know. And she says that that that's somehow  cult. I don't know. It's a part of the cult stuff. So, I guess I'm the cult of telling you to  think for yourself and to trust your gut. And.

if something seems like it's wrong, it's because  it probably is wrong. and the government telling. you to violate that to ignore your sense your  senses uh to believe something that is just truly. unbelievable like a 306 got stopped by Charlie's  neck because miracle. Yeah, trust yourself. That's. that is kind of the goal here is to let people  stop committing to government group think which. is how they control us all and also make us hate  each other. It is just a fact that the greatest. threat to governments and what this is really  about I is the left and the right coming together.

Right? This is like the thing that they have  to prevent. And this is why I am now number one. and who they are attacking. I'm talking about the  military-industrial complex which has been ruling. our nation for a very long time. I'm encouraging  people to read books to learn about the history of. psychology and why they do these sorts of things  like diagnose you. I'm telling people that they. should homeschool their kids, right? So they  don't end up like us. uh and when I say like us. committed to one side or the other convinced that  we have things figured out when we're shouting. at each other and not looking at the real power  apparatus that sits behind. So to that extent I.

do understand why Tucker and I have become threat  number one showing that you can survive outside. of their matrix not taking money not taking the  money that makes you fearful to speak out and. surviving it. But beyond that, yeah, no, I really  would not say um that we are leading a cult, but we're not getting rid of this. First off,  we don't know. No, but we know. Okay. And it's. a fact. And we are going to solve the Charlie Kirk  murder. So, we'll take a quick break and then I'll.

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opportunity offender. If you're being stupid and  what you're saying doesn't make sense, I'm going. to call it out. Uh whether you're there's nothing  that's going to protect you. Being a woman is not. going to protect you. Being black, being Jewish,  none of it's it's just not going to work if you're. going to use identity politics. And right now, it  is just the case that Zionists are being a little. cray cray. A lot of cray cray, very cray cray and  kind of dangerous. Um also, I want to tell you, by the way, one of the things that she mentioned  as sign of a cult was me reading comments at the.

end. Obviously, you guys pay for me to read these  comments and you guys compliment me, which is very. kind. And so, she said that me reading your  comments is a cult leader tactic. So, but I'm. going to keep reading these comments. US flag pole  guy writes, "We love you, Candace. We pray for you. and your family and for truth. Fight, fight,  fight. Thank you so much for that donation.". Stephanie writes, "Charlie knew that you would  have the strength of iron against their fighting. words when the battleground was set. You are  truly armor bearer. Be my David." Yeah, they've. cited that as well. And I was like, I just shared  Charlie's messages and he knew he was going to.

die. And that is actually in retrospect incredibly  compelling and I wish I had um I guess there's. nothing else I there's nothing I could have done  if if if there's really nothing I could have done. I have to remind myself of that. Zamit writes,  "Candice number one worldwide secret sauce. She. speaks to us, not at us." Yeah, we're just trying  to figure out what's going on and we know that. what they're telling us is going on is definitely  not what's going on. And my requirement is pretty.

easy. Are you interested? They're asking you to  be an idiot. Just be an idiot. Just it's just. this narrative regarding Charlie Kirk is just I've  never seen any situation where they didn't present. a shred of proof for their narrative. Not a shred  of proof. They won't show us a clear picture. of Tyler Robinson on that day despite all the  cameras. That would do a lot. If they just dropped. one clear image, right, we would be like, "Oh, at  least he was on campus." Like, "At least we can.

get there." Nothing. They're just like, "Trust us  10,000% and we're going to make the physics. It's. totally everything's impossible, but just trust  us. We're asking for such little." If you actually. go back and appreciate how the story has unfolded,  we are basically saying we would have taken the. bare minimum and maybe accepted some of this  narrative. They're giving us nothing and telling. us to swallow it whole. We just can't do that.  Okay, we just cannot do that. Mickey Shaw writes, "We love you, Candace." Well, you know what? Go  tell that to cult lady. She's going to be really.

upset about that. Uh Aries girl writes, "Seven  seven mill 7 million. Oh, seven mountain mandate. you're referring to. Makes me think of Satan  tempting Christ and the quote from Elder Ephraim. Uh the person who limits his mind to the to the  name of Christ, the hour of death, the beauty of. paradise and the love of God will purge it of  every demonic contemplation. Um the note here. is Ephraim. Ephraim was a revered Greek Orthodox  hero monk. Higher monk. Does that say higher monk?

Yeah, I'm not that familiar with that either. In  the Greek Orthodox arch dascese of America. Okay, that's very interesting. What I will say is it's  giving cults to say you um you can infiltrate in. the name of the Lord and which means be deceptive  right you can be deceptive in the name of the Lord. it doesn't make me feel good knowing that he was  putting money into turning point USA faith and. like I said we are going to have some explosive  revelations on Wednesday that's going to make.

you rethink everything and turning point faith  keeps coming up in this investigation I think. money was being interjected and I don't think I  think when Charlie raised his head and realized. something was wrong and that's why he established  Doge. Um, he made some real enemies. I I Charlie. was too brilliant to just ask a question. He  would have arrived at the answer very quickly. He learned very quickly. He processed information  very quickly. And to the extent that he was paying.

attention, he would have found out. That is um  that's just a fact. I it is not a small thing. They tried to reduce it. It's not a small thing  that Charlie suddenly was wondering about where. the money was coming from and where it was going  to. On that note, later on this week, we'll be. have having a guest join us that will speak on  Friday about Turning Point's finances. And that's. going to paint a big picture. Uh, it's going to  make a lot of sense why some people are freaking. out about this investigation, pretending to be  his friend, coming up with ridiculously stupid.

um conclusions about how I betrayed him or I  lied when I said I didn't give a single interview. uh regarding Charlie. I was in a true stage of  grief. I didn't offer a single interview. Well, Alex Clark figured out she rumbled me that I spoke  to CNN in a I had already scheduled CNN for my. book promo and we kept the interview on September  27th or something and she's like, "Well, she lied. She spoke to CNN. That interview was supposed  to be exclusively about my book book promotion,

uh, my background, what brought me to this  moment." And actually, Elle Reeves did not. even get to my book at all. She didn't mention  my book at all, which is quite stunning in. in retrospect by the end. Uh because she was  trying to hammer me, not on the Charlie stuff, but she was trying to hammer me so much on  Zionism, you know, Israel is kind of what she. wanted to speak about. And then Breijit Mcronone  is what she wanted to speak about. Anyways, um speaking of this book, I loved seeing this  online. Make him a sandwich. Somebody in Serbia.

got the book and her husband fake signed it.  He forged my signature and wrote to her. Um, I can't read her name. Dear Kiki, please make  me a sandwich. And I can't read that something. something. And then he signs it himself. He signs  it XOXO Candace. I love this idea of men fake. signing my book to try to get their wives to do  stuff. So, I had to pull that out. That's all the. way from Belgrade, Serbia. I reached out to her.  We're now going to send her a free signed copy.

because it made me giggle so much this morning.  And if you guys would like to get your copy, you can go to make him a sandwichand.com. Uh,  this book is doing fantastic and we're really. excited about that. So, um, yeah. What else do I  have for you guys? Thank you for supporting me. Twitter is crazy. X is crazy. I don't know why,  but there's a Zionist picture that is emerging in. this story. It's a faith picture. Be wary of the  influencers who are trying to struggle session you. into believing that actually recognizing that what  they are telling us makes virtually zero sense is.

somehow a sin. I would say this isn't an agatha  Christie novel. Real life is actually better. than an Agatha Christie novel. Um I'm realizing  there is so much corruption that is happening and. uh we are now in a time of tremendous revelation.  So, if you are working for the side of darkness, you are probably right about now on notice.  We'll see you guys on Wednesday. [Music].