Who’s Lying? Frank Turek, Erika Kirk, Or Elizabeth McCoy? | Candace Ep 316

All right, you guys, happy Wednesday. Um, I can tell you right at the top that. Nick Searcy got back to me. I was super. grateful. We'll discuss that. It's so. great when people are normal and just. respond and then you know the truth and. then you can share it. We also have some. more issues, however, with the infamous. tarmac hug. This is the tarmac hug from. hell. Cuz it turns out that Frank Turek's. memory makes that hug impossible. Impossible according to the timeline. that they have presented unless Andrew.

Kolvet, as I have been claiming, was on. Charlie Kirk's plane. Otherwise, we. again find ourselves in the familiar. predicament of somebody at Turning Point. USA is lying. Pick a liar, pick a liar. It's It's a journey, ladies and. gentlemen. Uh, I will also tell you that I spoke. with someone from Hopkinson Aircraft. Remember that unmarked building we. discussed yesterday where Erica was. allegedly seen? And I got to tell you. right off the bat, the conversation was. exceedingly. weird. I felt uncomfortable.

And also, we've got to get to Cash. Patel's girlfriend. She's speaking. again. Never good when she's speaking, right? And this time she has concocted a. fantastical. theory which proves that the reason. people think that she's a honeypot is. because of Vladimir Putin and uh, Putin's philosopher and the Catholic. Church and Candace Owens and Tucker. Carlson all working together in a. foreign operation. I don't know what else to say, guys. Welcome back to Candace.

>> [music]. >> All right, you guys, Nick Searcy, top of. show. He got back to me and like I said, I am grateful. Uh, but the issue is that. I actually made a mistake yesterday. My. the signal so many timelines got mixed. in my mind and for some reason I thought. that the flight from Santa Barbara to.

Scottsdale on the Wi-Fi plane was flying. while Andrew was hosting the Charlie. Kirk show, which would mean obviously. that if he was live on the Charlie Kirk. show, he could not have been on the. plane. But I was wrong. It was not. flying at that time. Uh, the Charlie. Kirk show was hosted in its entirety. before that plane took off from Santa. Barbara to Scottsdale at 12:28 Mountain. Time. Uh, so this plane actually left. Santa Barbara just 5 minutes after. Charlie Kirk was shot and then it went.

to Scottsdale. And so Nick Searcy was. very kind and gave me the details and. it's like, "Oh, no, that I did actually. uh, do that live and here's everything. in my communications about it." And then. I realized, "Oh my gosh, I was uh, completely confused. I was looking at. the plane while it was flying to Santa. Barbara." If my theory is that it picked. up Andrew Kolvet, that was its dead leg. from Provo. Um, I can also tell you that. we have since been able to confirm that. that Wi-Fi plane is in fact equipped. with Wi-Fi. Again, we are calling it the.

Wi-Fi plane only because Erica told me. that that's who was aboard the jet cuz. it first goes uh, from Scottsdale to. Provo. Um, and she alleges, and I don't. believe her, that that was carrying Lane. Shownberger, the CEO of Wi-Fi. And then. it does what I presume is a dead leg. from um, Provo to Scottsdale. That's the. one that I got mixed up on. No one was. actually on that plane while the Charlie. Kirk show was live and then it goes from. Scottsdale, I mean, from Santa Barbara. to Scottsdale.

So, Andrew would of course have been. able to uh, message while he was aboard that. particular jet. Uh, accordingly, there's. there's been no change, uh, but thank. you to Nick Searcy for immediately. getting back to me and confirming that. that was an authentically live show that. took place within the 9 and 10 o'clock. a.m. Pacific block. So, here is our. calendar again of the ongoings on that. day so you can see when Andrew is not. available and when that Wi-Fi plane is.

flying. Uh, you can see how I got mixed. up. And I was just wrong. It happens. I'm moving on. A very interesting find from my. producer, Mr. Frank Turek. I have told. you this man, Frank Turek. I He He is the only one. that I feel like. did not at all quiver. He has been uh, just consistent. He acted the right way. when the shots rang out. You know, he.

ducked. Yeah, he got a little angry. afterward and said I was the devil. She's the devil, don't listen to Candace. Owens. But he, you know, he was tight on the alibis, the timelines. He presented information. in just the right way. We have not been. able to catch Frank Turek. in any lies, right? If Frank Turek. hasn't made any mistakes, is what I'm. saying. Well, um, something that is interesting. though is he did do a lot of media. Uh, he did a lot of the media rounds in the. days following the assassination. He. said a lot. He said a lot on his own. podcast. I want to remind you that Frank.

Turek himself is a military guy, okay? He is a former Navy officer. He also has. sons in the military, I think in the Air. Force and the Navy. Uh, don't quote me. on that. It's one or the other. And I. mention that only because we. mili- We all know that military men tend. to be extraordinarily precise when it. comes to timelines, to time in general. They are reliable when it comes to. keeping track of time. It comes with. their general business. It's a. stereotype that holds true due to their. training, okay? It's why they even have.

their own time, military time, right? So, it makes it interesting that you're. about to hear Frank approximate. what the exact or ish time was that. Erica Kirk arrived at the hospital. Take. a listen to what he had to say. And then. when. Erica got there, she spent a lot of time talking to the. She probably got there, I don't know, somewhere around 4:00 p.m. maybe.

And um, she spent a lot of time, as you could. imagine, talking to the. surgeon and. talking to the hospital staff and. seeing Charlie. Oh. Uh-oh. 4:00 p.m. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a problem. We have a problem, Houston. The plane in. which Erica told me. that Andrew was aboard that day did not.

land until about 4:40 p.m., okay? So, if. indeed Erica was available to console. Andrew and to meet Andrew on the runway. when he landed, there is no way in hell. she would have been at the hospital even. before 5:00 p.m. Because even with. absolutely zero traffic at all, it takes. 20 minutes. If you were just flying from. point A to point B, it would take you 20. minutes to get from the Pro- Provo. Airport to Timpanogos Hospital. Okay?

Now, by the time you account for the. landing, the taxiing, uh, deplaning, uh, deboarding, uh, the. tarmac breakdown, the hysterics, the. cry, then moving into your cars and then. uh, uh, driving from the airport amidst. a manhunt for a killer? I remind you, when when they get there, there's a. manhunt going on. They don't know where. the killer is. Don't forget that. Uh, he's on the loose. You got the SWAT. teams. You got bomb dogs. You got local. police uh, forces. The feds are crawling.

all over. I would say you are looking at, even if. you have a police escort, 5:15 p.m. the earliest. that they would have arrived at the. hospital, okay? Which um, yeah. That's a problem. Okay? Frank Turek, I will say this, did not. get that wrong. I just know he didn't get it wrong. I. don't I don't feel like Frank Turek said. she got to the hospital around 4:00 p.m. and he really meant 5:15 p.m. That's.

just That did not happen because he's a. military man. Okay? That He He's not incorrect by over. an hour. I don't accept that. I don't. believe that not one bit. I reject the. premise and you should, too. Frank is. telling the truth. Um, and I'm going to also add here, so. is Andrew Kolvet. Andrew Kolvet did not make the story up. to me on the phone. He didn't, okay? Vibe check. I was not being lied to. Andrew told me the truth. It was too. detailed, okay? It's very difficult. outside of being like a like.

high intellectual psychopath. to be able to just go into very precise. details about how you were feeling on. the plane, how it was pent up, how the. emotions were, and then when you saw the. first person when the doors opened cuz. you had no one to talk to you when you. saw Erica and you quote unquote boohoo. cried. Andrew did not make that up. That. was real. Okay? He and I were having a real moment. when he described that. He and Erica. hugged on the tarmac. This hug will. never go away.

Never go away. So, how do we make these two points, which I believe are true? I think Frank. Turek is telling the truth. Erica. arrived at 4:00 p.m. ish at the hospital. and. Andrew Kolvet told the truth that he. hugged her and she was there to greet. him. How do we make both of these points true. aboard our available private planes that. came in on that day? Well, I have an. idea. It's been my idea all week. Welcome to the Candace show. We just have to assume that my memory. was correct. That Erica therefore flew.

in earlier than Andrew aboard a plane. I. cannot confirm which plane that is yet, but I will. I'll find out. I'm going to. find out, Erica. And Andrew flew aboard Charlie's plane. Cuz that would mean Andrew landed the. plane Andrew landed on that plane at. 3:31 p.m. Utah time. That's about just. enough time for everybody to crowd. around at the airport, have a little. cry, and then you're going to arrive you got. 20 minutes police escort I'm assuming.

there's a police escort around 4 p.m. at. the airport which is at the hospital. which is 20 minutes away. Okay. That would mean again this is crucial. that Erica was on an earlier flight to. the question that we now face is which. one. Okay, there are two many. inconsistencies in the story the tarmac. hug happened just accept it as a fact. Andrew was not lying to me and also by. the way I will say this. Every time we have been confronted with.

this predicament many times of Andrew. tells the story and Erica tells the. story we are able to determine that. Andrew is the one telling the truth. We've been faced with this many times. throughout this investigation. The. Hampton Summit Andrew was telling the. truth actually in the end they tried to. cover it up oh no we little people all. be statements going out BB call blah. blah blah Andrew in the end was telling. the truth about the hug tarmac hug. When. Andrew dropped that thing about the. 30-aught-6 and she pretended he went and.

wrote nope I told you Erica was on the. phone that day. She was directing Andrew. to do those things. She allows Andrew to. look like a fool and like he's a liar. but in reality it's Erica that's lying. if so if we're just to go with the. pattern that has emerged here as we've. even been investigating this Andrew's. telling the truth. Andrew landed. Frank. Turek is telling the truth. And they got to that hospital because he. was on Andrew was on Charlie Kirk's. plane. That's what I'm putting out there. Now. the good news is that we can now fill in.

some more particular details about what. happened on September 10th beginning. with. what happened in Arizona at the TPUSA. offices and this time it is thanks to. Elizabeth Kravchuk McCoy. That's her. maiden name Kravchuk McCoy our. Ukrainian. A lot going on with her her family her. background I don't like it at all I will. say that. Don't like her. Elizabeth what we can confirm was. she was certainly at Turning Point USA's.

offices when the shot rang out it was. 12:23 p.m. Mountain Standard Time when. the shot rang out and she as we now know. even though this was something they all. kind of hid nobody knows why she was. actually the first person that was. called so much for Frank saying that. Charlie trained him anything happens. call call Erica call Erica call Erica. first thing walk away that's why he. walked away then we find out like he. called his wife. So he didn't follow the training the. military's training to walk away from me. let anything happen to me just make sure. she gets this phone call. Okay, well. then we find out. Yeah here the call.

looks it was it was Elizabeth. So the amazing Mikey McCoy her husband. who I should mention she was set up with. it was an arranged marriage if Charlie. is to be believed he said that in their. speech in his speech at their wedding he. rang her first and then they conferenced. in Erica thereafter. Elizabeth. after she gets that call sprints into. the office of Frank who is the lawyer at. Turning Point USA and not Frank Turek. not to be confused with Frank Turek it's. Turning Point's lawyer where she.

discovers Justin Streif who is in the. office at that time and alerts them to. what has happened. Frank and Justin then. run to the Turning Point Action. building. I'm not sure why I don't know who was. there but that's what they did. I'll say allegedly here but that's the. story. Elizabeth then asks someone to drive her. to the airport and that registers to me. as odd. I'm wondering why does she not. licensed. is she too upset to drive to the airport.

what what are our our options here I. don't know the answer but I do know who. drove her person who drove her is Lauren. Tonchech. Lauren Tonkitch I should know how to say. her name she's a very long time employee. of Turning Point USA. She's I would call. her one of the TPUSA OGs back when I was. there Lauren was there she was she was. you know. at that time helping with everything to. be honest and she volunteered for the. task to drive Elizabeth to the airport.

I want to be clear that is approximately. 30 minutes away in Scottsdale. So I said that was immediately weird to. me because then I thought wait a second. but. you know who's missing from this. equation? Stacey Sheridan. Where is Stacey Sheridan is like the de. facto mom to Erica she's going to step. in she's the only person Erica needs to. be around she's going to be the one. recording Charlie in the casket she's. going to be you know momager for. everything that's Where was Stacey. Sheridan was Stacey Sheridan at the. office no Stacey Sheridan was not at the.

office Stacey Sheridan is missing. Actually Stacey Sheridan. is allegedly home in Scottsdale. I would like to now put out an APB for. Stacey Sheridan on September 10th. because I can confirm she was not at the. Turning Point USA office and this is. interesting because Stacey Sheridan. lives. with Erica and Charlie the same. apartment complex not in the same. apartment units but she just moved in. ahead of this she moved in after her.

husband passed I think she initially was. initially living in California and she. chose to move into the apartment that. Erica and Charlie live. They really are. a family guys it's weird Mikey McCoy is. there all the time they're always all. together it's creepy let me just say. this to you guys. go home like once you are done with work. please go home don't just all live in a. little hippy commune together and see. each other and eat go home have a life. outside of work your job is not your. family actually it's just a job. If. anything happens to you if we have. learned anything in this Charlie Kirk. story you'll be replaced maybe even by.

your wife. Anyways I'm now interested cuz that's a. something that strikes me as like oh did. anybody see Stacey Sheridan on September. 10th it's another person we can look out. for. What about Tyler Boyer? Cuz I do feel that Erica and Tyler flew. together definitively. Was Tyler Boyer at the office on that. day on September 10th? Did you see Tyler. Boyer on September 10th at the office? If so what time do you have a text from. him saying he was at the office? If so. please email us we want to hear from.

you. More tips at CandaceOwens.com this is an. interesting person to be missing Mama. Stacey. She didn't need her family there no not. her real family. Forget her friends her family everyone. she grew up with remember Erica grew up. in Scottsdale. Everybody's right there right? Mom okay. mom's a little sick dad. aunts uncles every doesn't everybody. live here in Scottsdale? I think even I.

heard that Nicole Rothstein once upon a. time lived in Scottsdale where are all. of you where's your family where's your. high school friends? No I when I my husband dies I want to be. with the. chief fundraiser she's my mom now. Okay okay Erica I don't believe that I. don't believe it at all you're a very. shady person. What happens next according this is. Elizabeth McCoy's alleged narrative is. that she then receives a phone call. she's at the airport she receives the. phone call that Charlie did not make it.

She alleges. that for whatever reason she beats Erica. to the airport which is remarkable to me. given how close Erica and Stacey live to. the airport. how close the alleged appointment that. she says her her her mother had that day. she was with her mom. and I'm going to debunk that. in a future episode probably tomorrow. Erica's very close Where's Erica at this. time why has nobody seen Erica or Stacey. during all of this a lot of action is. happening.

but Elizabeth tells people that she had. to break the news to Erica. that Charlie was gone she's the one that. told Erica when Erica gets to the. airport and she's inside of this. terminal that or this FBO that that. Charlie was gone and Erica collapses and. screams. Now there's a lot wrong with. that story we don't need to nitpick it's. Turning Point USA okay you don't need to. take anything this says fact it's just. another Turning Point USA narrative. of course right off the bat Erica told.

me that the doctor called her directly. and informed her that Charlie was dead. and that seems much more appropriate to. me. but like I said there's no two stories. that are all the same at Turning Point. USA. I should mention it's a point of. interest that there was a lot of. evidence that Mikey McCoy's assistant. who knew he needed one a young woman who. by all accounts is very kind and very. nice but her name is Katherine LoCastro. she was a part of the team that. transported Erica to the airport on that. day and she also went out to Utah people.

found out to be very weird she's very. young what is unknown is when or how the. priest showed up to the airport but he. was also in tow as well as we told you. guys yesterday. Now according to. Elizabeth's narrative Mikey's assistant. Katherine got sick on the plane. overwhelmed from the emotion as soon as. they landed they raced to the hospital. cuz nobody waited for Andrew Kolbe but. except they did if Andrew Kolbe is to be. believed where Mikey McCoy met them all.

outside and Elizabeth was thereafter the. one who went in with Erica to see. Charlie's body for the first time that's. weird that is weird. Weird. It's wrong and it's weird I'm sure. there'll be some neo-cons to explain to. you that it's not it's just you you need. everybody's screaming differently. sometimes you just want to grieve with. people that you kind of just became. friends with and that are like young a.

lot younger than you it's just it's. weird okay. Now at some point they sent. Katherine who like I said sounds like. she's quite innocent she's well liked I. can say that at least. to grab something from the car the car. that Charlie bled out in bloodied car. okay that he was transported to the. hospital in and when she opened the. vehicle and she saw the blood, she was. apparently very traumatized according to. Elizabeth's narrative. Now, Elizabeth left the hospital and went to.

then gather the items for everyone to. stay overnight since they did not pack. any bags. This is where the aloe story. comes in. Now, you will note that there was. curiously no mention of Andrew Kolb in. that narrative. Or the feds who we were told by Frank. Tarik were guarding the vehicle and had. taped it off so nobody could get into. it. So, what could be so important in. the vehicle that they needed to send. this young Catherine. to retrieve something.

Charlie wasn't traveling with a bag. He. had a private plane. If he had a bag, he. would have left it in the plane. He. wasn't planning on staying overnight. He. didn't pack anything. Um, I traveled many times. What would he. have? His phone and uh gum, water. I'm. just leaving that as an open-ended. question. I have another update for you which is. interesting. I was able to connect by just a very. strange set of circumstances, a giant. coincidence yesterday, with someone who. works at Hopkinson Aircraft. Okay,

remember we told you this yesterday, there's this weird unmarked building. Looks weird. And this is apparently. where Erica was when she had this little. collapse second collapse of the day. episode. And um I'll just say foremost, they would like me to clarify that they. are not a CIA front company. They do. real business. Okay, they do real. business not a CIA front company. I. always like whenever I say a lot of. stuff, I'm always interested in like. what they focus on. I've just I thought. the website looks a little weird, but. they probably do do real business. Okay,

so just put that out of your mind. Okay, that aside. It was weird. Very very weird. Basically, it just so. happened that after I go off air. yesterday, have a conversation with a. friend in Scottsdale, friend of mine who I trust. Um, and the person I had on the phone. with them and they're like I got I have. a dinner. I have I have I got to run. dinner. It turns out that he was going. to dinner with somebody who works for. Hopkinson Aircraft. I can't even figure. out how that happened. Like the the. chances of it happening are slim to.

none. I woke up this morning, I text. from him which was like, "Hey, first you. mentioned on your show." and sent me a. photo. Uh you you got to connect with. him. He doesn't even know Erica. Uh. yeah, he was there when she got the news. that Charlie was dead, but you know, uh. like you know, saw her at the airport, whatever. But that was just like kind of. a coincidence. I'm like, "What a weird. coincidence?" but like you know, he's. got a lot of good details and you should. call him. I'm like, "Okay, so I'm I'm. calling thinking maybe there's a off.

chance that what we missed here was he. just saw her out of the window. Maybe. she got the news in a parking lot. Maybe. she collapsed in two parking lots that. day. One was at the airport. Good to. have the confirmation that this person. also told my other this didn't know that. we have this friend in common uh that he. saw Erica at the airport. Get on the. phone with this guy, thinking he's going. to be like, "Oh yeah, I saw her at the. airport." cuz if you don't know her, who. cares, right? That's where she's. supposed to be. You would just be. confirming her alibi, right? Clammed up.

Super weird. Effectively said, "I will. not confirm or deny.". That's to sum it all up. It was like all. I'm like, "Okay, like what do you mean. you won't confirm or deny? Like did you. see her? Did you not see her? Did you. like what do we say?" "No, I don't. know." I'm like, "Okay, did you tell. people that you saw her?" blah blah. "I. can neither confirm or deny. I don't. talk about things.". And they just made me feel really. uncomfortable. Again, there would be nothing wrong with seeing. Erica where she's supposed to be. That's.

something you have to be clammed up. about. You just like, "Yeah. Yeah, that's that's where she's supposed. to be, right? Yeah, saw her. Didn't have a conversation, but just. happened to see her.". And uh then I'm like, "Okay, so now. you're saying like multiple people are. lying here. And did you tell people this?" And then. it was like I will neither confirm or. deny. You're saying this person's a. liar. No, I'm not saying that person's a. liar. Are you saying that I have this. wrong. Well, I'm not saying you have. this wrong. I just can neither confirm. or deny. It's like I am not I don't have you like. this isn't a court hearing. I'm just. trying to figure out what happened on.

that day. So, I wanted to share that. This person. is not in the CIA. It does not It's not. running a CIA front company. It's a. totally legit business and you should. buy aircraft from them, but also this. person cannot confirm or deny. whether they saw Erica that day at their. offices. And uh. yeah, we will pause there and come back. after a brief break. All right, you guys. Thanks to you, last. year Pre-Born helped rescue over 80,000. babies and today you can help save even. more. Every single day thousands of.

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wake of Charlie's assassination where we. were just fed so much objective BS that. it was it was kind of hard. uh to even focus. You're just going Are. they really going to just pull try to. pull this off? They're just going to. tell us that there's a bullet that they. can't match to the weapon or bullet. fragment they can't match to a weapon. They don't know why it didn't go. through. Charlie's Superman. Anyway, then they they're deeply upset that uh. Joe Rogan, as I told you, uh similarly. has weighed into this and I missed this. part where he specifically spoke about. the uh Superman neck theory. Uh take a.

listen to what Joe Rogan had to say. The Kirk thing's weird because now. there's video footage from behind. Is. that right? >> Yeah, it it I mean, the round that he. was supposedly shot with was a .30-06. which is a big round. That's a round you. can kill a moose with. Uh-huh. And it. doesn't even have an exit wound. Right. >> no sense. It makes zero sense. Well, you. heard about this Joe Kent? Yeah. Yeah, they told him not to research or. investigate. Yes. So, what's up with. that? He said that they were told to. stop their investigation. Yeah.

>> And that they were going to handle it. And he just resigned. >> And meanwhile, have they handled it? Like we haven't seen that guy, the the. guy who loves furries, who supposedly. killed Charlie Kirk. >> Tyler. Robinson? Yeah, yeah. We haven't. seen him talk. No. He hasn't said he did. it. He hasn't said he didn't do it. There's no known like independent video. of him talking about it. Yeah. And then. there was footage of him like at a. yogurt shop. Right. >> Like way across town like 20 minutes. later. The whole thing is like super.

sus. It just is objectively super sus. And uh. apparently now they're at the the phase. where they're angry at people for. noticing. And the craziest thing that. you will read today is what I I actually. am just going to see this as Kash. Patel's revenge. I think when Kash Patel. went in to the FBI, uh there was kind of. this ideal he was going to you know, right the wrongs and make sure that that. he took down the deep state. And then he. just fumbled every plausible ball, right? I mean, you you had Pam Bondi and.

him, the Epstein files at first is the. the first thing that happened. Obviously, it would be the biggest thing. with Trump saying. uh what Epstein files. We're still. talking about the Epstein files. And. then the Charlie Kirk assassination. We're going, "Wait, Charlie Kirk. literally helped all of you guys get. into power. Are you really letting it go. down like this? Like this this is we are. looking at the deep state." And I think. he's now seeking his revenge on people. who he feels have thus far uh are are I. guess guilty of ruining his reputation. as professional. And he's doing it via. his girlfriend. Okay, the young woman. that he once referred to in a real tweet.

as a country music sensation. Most. embarrassing thing that's ever happened. Like should have immediately had to. resign. If this was like Russia, he. would have just disappeared, I think, in. general. And uh yeah, he was just to give you an. update, he was flying this girl on. uh we're flying to see her. on the FBI plane going to see her in. Tennessee. He has also sent a police. force to protect her. Like where I think. are we paying for that? Is this like our. tax dollars are going to protect his. country music singing young thing? Uh.

she's definitely got a government. security detail. And her name is Alexis. Wilkins in case you're not familiar with. her. And people have been suspecting. that she's a honey pot. And that he's an. unserious human being. Uh especially like I said, given the. Charlie investigation. Well, Alexis was. deeply upset by the honeypot. allegations, so much so that she began. suing content creators claiming that it. harmed her professionally at. professionally she like sings uh. the opening at Turning Point USA events.

Like that's what she does. I don't see. how that could have harmed her. professionally. You should go listen to. her music. We can't play it here cuz. we'll get hit. That's what happened last. time. But she's not that talented as what I. would say and that's putting it mildly. She's definitely not what I would refer. to as a sensation. That's not all she's done. So apparently. for them to exact maybe they're exacting. their revenge together. For the last few. months she has she's claiming that she. began building a a program or a data set. to determine how anyone could think that.

she's a honeypot. No, the obvious answer is cuz they have. eyes, right? They suspect it cuz they. have eyes. Um anybody would say this if they saw. these two together. Somewhat earlier I said you know if I. just literally saw them in a restaurant. I'd be like that man must have money, right? But no. It's never common sense. It's never obvious. It's got to be. something way deeper and she has come up. with the idea that Russia was behind the. attacks on her and she presented this. theory in a 13-part thread explaining.

how she realized that Russia was behind. a foreign influence campaign. that controls me and Tucker Carlson and. Joe Kent and General Michael Flynn and. they are doing it through the Catholic. Church even though Russia is an Eastern. Orthodox society. Apparently Vladimir. Putin because he really wanted to go. after this country music sensation. uh with the purpose of taking down Kash. Patel. and MAGA. uh he decided to repair the schism.

I I'm just going to let you see her. thread and I can't go I can't read the. whole thing cuz it's it's dizzying. It's. hard to follow, but she's it's it's 13. parts and. you're going to see she starts to refer. to tweets as chapters and I'm really sad. that we're at this point in America. where uh a tweet can be considered a. chapter. I'll go back you can scroll. back up. She says a foreign-linked influence. network has been running coordinated. operations against the Trump. administration for 22 months. I know. it's real because they ran one against. me. I was targeted in something that I.

knew was far from organic. The level of. media is isolating, unwanted, and. unwarranted. There was nobody to help. I. want to keep in mind there's nobody to. help. She's literally dating the FBI. director and has a government security. force following her. There's nobody to help. Nobody to jump. in and say this is a false op and help. me. Well, I don't believe in problems. without solutions. So I spent the last. few months learning to build programs to. utilize publicly available information. to prove that this is way bigger than. me. This is about creating chaos in the.

Republican Party. Then she goes through. and she kind of you can see she then. says recaps I was falsely labeled a a. Mossad spy and then she says. she noticed that people started. retweeting it. There were 15 pairs of. that retweeted in 10 seconds of each. other. So that in that tweet she's just. kind of generally learning how Twitter. works and she thinks she has stumbled. upon something. That's how Twitter. works. There are accounts and you tweet. something if they agree they retweet it. So that's Jack Dorsey could have.

probably explained this to her in less. time than the months that it took her to. come up with this theory. Then she says. the network the network has a trail. Catholics for Catholics list General. Michael Flynn as their senior advisor on. their own website. Flynn is the anchor. of a digital infrastructure that has. been repeatedly activated at every major. Republican fracture point. No uh she's she's just not going to. prove that uh but I guess she just. picked on the Catholics for Catholics, the very young organization. Um General Michael Flynn spoke there. By. the way, that's the first time that I've.

ever spoken to General Michael Flynn. that I remember. Maybe I met him at a. random event a long time ago, but my. memory like it would be years ago if I. met him previously and I don't think I. have, but it's possible cuz of Turning. Point USA. So she's now putting this at. the event that I spoke to a couple of. weeks ago. It made her go aha, it's the. Catholics. Let's keep going here. Then she gives us chapter one and by. chapter one she means just one tweet. >> [laughter]. >> Chapter one. No, sweetheart, this is one tweet. This. is not a chapter. Okay, we can't No, not.

even a first grader would call this a. chapter. Then she explains how before. the Butler assassination and then. chapter two, which is just a tweet. again, she says that a coordinated. narrative falsely identifies FBI. Director Flynn so it's as a Mossad. honeypot. She somehow connected I don't. know how this jumps from the Catholics. to there. You have to read it. It's too. stupid for me to understand. Then she. goes. the amplifications that were documented. she found out that Russia Today. retweeted it. Ah, so a news publication.

in Russia retweeted it and that's how. she then realized that well then there's. got to be an international conspiracy. Obviously if Russia ever covers news. that's happening in America it's because. Vladimir Putin is behind the thing. that's happening in America. It makes perfect sense if you suspend. rational thinking, okay? Then she jumps in and she explains. chapter I'm in chapter three. It looks. like to be four sentences. Uh Charlie Kirk's assassination within.

hours Candace publicly attributes the. killing to Israel and targets Kirk's. widow by name. That's just made up. That's just a lie. The chapter three is. just a lie. I was not naming Erica. I said nice. things about Erica about her speech. Uh. didn't start covering Erica until Erica. lied to my face in December, but that. doesn't matter cuz this is Kash Patel's. girlfriend. The facts she can just put. whatever facts she wants there and so. she's now correlating oh, you know, my. hubby I did go after Kash right away.

So I went after her boy boy and that's. what she's upset about and so she's. woven that in I think. somehow and then chapter four she talks. about Joe Kent resigning which just. happened and then Catholics for. Catholics he was at the event and yeah, that's that is literally only the I. think second time I've ever even seen. Joe Kent. I did not know Joe Kent at all. prior to assassination. His name became. familiar to me because the news article. which we covered which said that he was. standing up to Kash Patel. So but she's.

now woven this all together cuz why. would we all be at the same event and. once again she shows that when he. resigned Russia Today covered it. So. obviously Vladimir Putin is doing this. and she then shows that the data. um clearly demonstrates that the same. people that are interested in the Butler. assassination are the same people that. are interested in Joe Kent's resignation. and they are the same people that are.

interested in Charlie Kirk's. assassination. By golly guys, she has. figured out. that the MAGA voting block might be all. interested in these topics. Yes, Alexis, that is called you have properly. identified. a group of people that are interested in. the same political theme. So if you're. interested if you were a Trump voter, you were interested in the assassination. and figuring out who did that. If you're. a Trump voter, you're going to be. interested if he decides to go to war. with Iran and Joe Kent resigns for that.

information. If you're a Trump voter, you're going to be interested in the. Charlie Kirk assassination. That's not a. conspiracy. That's common sense. Anyway, she I don't know what chapter. we're on. You can keep scrolling. through, but she showed the data that. these these same accounts were. interested in the same topics and um. then somehow said that you know, General. Flynn is is running it and so I just. want to you to know that she spent she. spent months on this. and then discovered that this must be.

intentional and it must be to inflict. harm on MAGA. So I want to help her. understand what is happening and what is. actually inflicting harm on MAGA. The first thing is I. I think generally speaking MAGA voters. and Democrat voters care about children. being raped, okay? That that seems like. something they might care. I don't think. that's inorganic. When people are upset. that Trump says are we still talking. about the Epstein files and then. basically Thomas Massie has to fight him. tooth and nail alongside some others um.

to get the Epstein files and then we. discover what's in the Epstein files, that's going to harm his base because of. what he did, okay? The second thing that. I think might be going on um is that. people think your boyfriend's ugly. I think they think I think they think. your boyfriend's ugly. I don't know how. to say it to you. And so when they see. you and they see him, they think this. seems like a mismatch unless maybe. he's super duper rich or super duper.

powerful and she's been sent as a. honeypot. And I wasn't the one to put. that out, so I'm not being sued by you. But I just want to help you connect that. dot. And as the news goes. when in the midst of a international war. like Iran, which would have implications. of course all across the world um. somebody resigns and says that this is. an immoral uh. different countries. Russia even might.

cover that, so. I do just think that some people think. your your boyfriend's butt ugly. I think. that's all that's happening. I don't I. don't think there's a conspiracy here, but I do invite you on to the show to. take us through it. Take us through the. data sets that you built, the models. that you built uh to bring us to this. crucial understanding that it could be. Vladimir Putin. She also mentions his. his philosopher um Alexander Dugin and. doesn't understand that people just have. eyes and they don't believe what we're. saying what you what Kash says about the.

Charlie investigation and they don't. believe what you say about your. relationship. There's a generally a. rule. If you have to sue to prove that. your relationship is real. it's maybe not. I don't feel like I have to sue anybody. when they say George and I are not in a. relationship. People have made those. allegations before. I don't care. I don't I don't know why you seem you. seem really upset about that. I also. want to add it didn't help. that after she did this thread like the. first person who retweeted her was Bibi.

Netanyahu's son Yair. It's just like. when they're calling you a honeypot you. just got to be like Yair, not now. That. didn't help. Anyway, here's your boyfriend at a. recent hockey game. This is another. reason why people maybe don't take him. seriously, but here he is. >> [cheering].

>> Maybe you think that's cool. I don't. know. Maybe you think it's cool, but I think. they just think he's a tremendously. unserious person. As are you. Anyway, the real person who's running. the entire office is Tim Dillon. I. always want to throw that in there and. I'd love to have you on the show. Important to note that just in general.

Catholics have been under the attack. This is a real headline in the Daily. Wire. Not that surprising, it's the. Daily Wire. And it says the Catholic convert boom is. real, but a trouble pattern is emerging. And so you can see. what the trouble pattern is going to be. at that bay in in in that article is. that they're not Zionists. That's that's. why there's always attacks on Catholics, it's because Catholic does not imply. Zionism in the way that Southern Baptist. might imply Zionism. And so elsewhere in. the article that's what he spells out. And it's just really interesting because.

there's that meme. Yeah, unlike many. branches of Christianity, this is in the. article, the Catholic Church does not. demand that the faithful be committed. Zionists to receive God's blessing. Many prominent members of the church. have spoken out about the plight of. civilians in Gaza. Yeah, great. This. makes us happy. We love that. We think. that's great that we are are not. manipulated by the idea that we're not. going to get into heaven if we don't. support Bibi Netanyahu. And I do want to say that what's really. funny is there's that meme where they. deny deny deny something is happening. and then suddenly one day they're like,

okay, this is happening, but let me tell. you why it's a good thing or a bad. thing. So this is them acknowledging, okay, it is happening, but let me tell. you why it's a bad thing. And it made me. laugh because last year I remember I was. like being gaslit about the growth of. the Catholic Church, particularly by. Allie Stuckey, who definitely has a. thing about Catholics and I just tweeted. like, oh, this is great. The. The Catholic Church This is in April of. last year. Oh, it's so great. All around. the world the Catholic Church is growing. and Protestant denominations are on the. decline. Uh and all should should ponder. why that may be. And then Allie jumped.

in and was like, respectfully, no, that's not true. And then she puts in an. article. I think you have that tweet. Respectfully, it's not true. And then. she sort of like we just go back and. forth and she's like it's not true. It's. not true. It's not happening. She also did like a super long post. beyond that. I think in September of. last year of why like this is not true. The popular narrative is that the. Catholicism is booming, but this is not. true. And now you fast forward to today. and they're all like, okay, it's true, but let me tell you why it's a bad. thing. And there are so many articles. now that show how much the Catholic. Church is growing. We can just show you.

a few of them here. But US Catholic population shows growth. trends southward, which is true. Here is another article. That one's. actually an old one, but this one's from. 2025 August. More Americans joining. Catholic Church than leaving for the. first time in decades. Here is one that was in the London. Times. Catholics outnumber Anglicans two. to one among Gen Z churchgoers, which is amazing. And so it's yeah, there's a conversation happening. Is it. is part of it being driven by people. that are feeling disenfranchised by.

Zionism? Yeah, when they can see things that are. obviously evil and you're telling them. that it's not evil and that they're not. going to be saved unless they uh. turn the other way. Yeah, I'm sure that. that it kind of removes the scales from. your eyes a little bit. But anyway, I. think it's great for Catholics and but. we are fully under attack. There's no. question about it and. that thread and having the FBI's. girlfriend do that really shows you how. there's no way that you can attach it to. Catholics for Catholics, but she just. does because she doesn't like that Joe.

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Sarah writes, they are investigating Joe. Kent harder than they investigated. Charlie's murder. Yeah, I am telling you. it is it is we are all watching Cash's. revenge. Like he's angry and it's so. obvious that they're he's angry, Andrew. Kolvet's angry, Erica is angry. I forgot. to mention this. It came to me actually. that. last night. When I met up with Erica, she brought up Joe Kent and I was so. confused. I need to get my notes from when we sat. down, but she was asking me about, if I.

recall correctly, the this was the part. of the conversation where we were. discussing the hospital that day. And. Andrew was the one who had called me and. said that like, you know, there was. attacks against me or like there was. threats against me and Tucker Carlson. And for some reason Erica thought that. that was Joe Kent and she kept asking. about Joe Kent and I was like, I don't. know what you're talking about. Like I. genuinely was telling her I was like I. don't know what you're talking about. I. don't know why you're bringing up Joe. Kent. And she was like, well, was he. your source at the hospital? And I said,

no. Andrew Kolvet was. And then she said, oh, because there's some guy and she. mentioned Joe Kent. So Joe Kent has been. on her mind for a long time. I don't. know why that is. I don't know why she. got to Joe Kent and I didn't push too. hard on that. I was like, no, I didn't. obviously when all this happened I I. didn't know who Joe Kent was. And I know that him and Cash are are. clashing or whatever it is, but she. mentioned Joe Kent to me and she thought. that he was my source at the hospital. and it wasn't. It was Andrew Kolvet.

Yeah, anyway, just sharing that random. fact that came into my head. And I. forgot the name that she said that she. thought was giving Joe information and. she thought somebody who I'd never heard. of was giving Joe information and that. Joe was giving me that information. And. I just told her. no, I don't know what you're talking. about, which was true. More comments from today's episode. Actually, I'll also remind you guys, we. have new merch. That's exciting. There. is new merch. It is great merch. Check. this out on the website. We have Public.

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done. And now Trump's like negotiating. with Iran. Iran is is dropping some fire. propaganda, by the way. They're like. they're dropping some pretty cool. propaganda. It's definitely a lot better. than the White House's, which feels like. it's just boomer slop. Uh Natty Nicole. writes, "Wait, I thought Elizabeth. patched in Erica when she was on the. phone with Mikey, but then Elizabeth. also told Erica at the airport." Yeah, two different things here. I think. you're confused about. The first thing. is just the initial phone call that. Charlie had been shot, and that took. place obviously when she was at the. office. Apparently, she screamed, and. then she went and she found Dustin.

Shrive. The later phone call that she. told people was when they found out that. Charlie didn't make it. Uh and I don't I. don't believe that narrative at all, but. that's that would have happened later. Uh The Nicole writes, "I spent the last. few months learning to build programs to. build my conspiracies. Tell me you're a. honeypot without telling me you're a. honeypot." Shh. Nicole, you're going to. get sued. She's suing Nicole. You better watch it. She's coming for you. The FBI's. coming for you, Nicole.

Heidi Gumbert writes, "My cat died on. Monday. I've already grieved longer than. Erica Kirk." Genuinely, when my cat. died, it took me years. I just now feel. ready to have um a new cat. I just. didn't want to like replace the cat. Just felt weird. Uh but I feel like now it's been 5. years, so. I do want a cat, and I I I don't mean to. to trigger Alexis Wilkins, but I. particularly want a Russian Blue cat. So, add it to the data sets. They're. they're very pretty. I love the Russian. Blue cats. Bonnie Miriam writes, "Pretty. rich Wilkins is implicating General.

Flynn since he was exactly who brought. Cash Patel into the Patriot movement. through the Awaken America Tours with. Clay Clark." Yeah, I don't know how that. relationship soured. That was weird. I. did I don't really follow. It seems like. Cash Patel has issues with a lot of. people. Um but clearly General Michael Flynn is. on his list. And it's funny cuz then. later on she says that the purpose of. this is like to not get people to sign. up for the military, and I'm like, "Wait, General Michael Flynn is working. to get people not sign to not sign up. for the military." Like it literally. just makes no sense. Everybody hates you. guys because of what you're doing. Okay?

That's always the easier the Occam's. razor. It's because of what Trump is. doing and what he's not doing. It's. because of what Cash is doing and what. he's not doing. Um and also, like I said, I do think. that people think your boyfriend's ugly. Um. and I don't think that's my fault or. anybody else's fault. I didn't say it. I'm just saying that. that's where the honeypot rumors are. coming from. It's not that deep. It's just people with eyes think that. something is not organic in that. relationship, and.

certainly suing is not helping people. believe that your relationship is real. Cuz that's not what you do if your. relationship is real. Just like you. don't sue someone to prove that you're a. woman. Okay? Like it's just not a thing. that you actually need to do if you're. actually a woman. Anyway, um I think I read all of the. comments. Um oh, one more person I missed. Love of. Light Love Light writes, "Chapter 1. >> [laughter]. >> I've been watching I've been watching. your show since the beginning, and I. absolutely adore you. Chapter 2. It gets. better and better every day. Chapter 3. Go Max." I I want to buy that at Barnes.

& Noble. You get that published. You find a book. publisher, and you put it in, and I will. read all of those chapters, and I will. sign that book for you. So, thank you so. much, Lover of Light. Thank you guys. Um. again, APB. Stacy Sheridan on that day. I know I have uh contacts that are uh. living in that same building. If you. guys remember seeing Stacy Sheridan, that would be great. Still can't get an Erica sighting. Um but I do have a lot of issues with. her Lori alibi. That is very.

problematic, that alibi. Falling apart. It's falling apart. I will tell you more. about that tomorrow. >> [music].