What Really Happened To Malaysian Airlines Flight 370? | Candace EP 80

where do begin okay well I do not trust. the government at all shocker I'm. Candace Owens but how did I arrive to. that conclusion that the government was. lying to us about virtually everything. well it usually starts with just one. thing for me it was vaccines it was. becoming vaccine injured and then. becoming vaccine obsessed to understand. how I had allowed a foreign substance. into my body and knew nothing about that. foreign substance and yet trusted the. experts and then yeah I came out of the. other side realizing that virtually.

every vaccine the story that we are told. this is really just a program of social. engineering they scare us into. compliance they lie about various things. and they omit a ton of. information and so then after that I. would say all things became plausible. now I listen to people who I once upon a. time would have found to be very strange. oh that person's a conspiracy theorist I. would have said and now I know who came. up with that term conspiracy theorist. the government the CIA did after JFK was. shot by just one person just a random.

act of violence against a president and. then they paid via operation Mockingbird. a bunch of journalists to lie about the. narrative to control the narrative yeah. so I I I'll have a lot of things that I. ask questions about and I tend to try to. find people who get equally as obsessed. with a topic and present interesting. theories now I'm sure you remember this. event let's go back to. 2014 there was an airline carrier. Malaysia Airlines flight 370.

MH370 which went missing and then it was. in the news and then magically it was. not in the news and we never really got. an answer to what happened to. MH370 well the person I'm inviting on. the show today has quite the theory some. people might think that that theory is. completely kooky I don't not at all and. I'm going to allow him to explain it to. you Ashton Forbes welcome to Candace. thank you Candace Owens I'm happy to be. here I'm super excited for this.

interview all right so I was just on X. scrolling through posts looking for. different topics and I came across a. very long post that you did and it was. about MH370 and then in the back of my. mind I went oh my gosh yeah what. actually did happen to. MH370 so if you could just remind people. because they're probably also equally as. Dusty on this narrative what happened on. that day Mar it's March 8th. 2014 how many passengers get on this.

plane that was supposed to be traveling. from the koal lar airport to Beijing in. China yeah there was 239 people and I. just want to First say that those people. have families and I have the utmost. respect for those families in fact I. first started this investigation because. those families deserve the truth and I. think that anybody that would say oh. you're hurting the families by looking. into this they should listen and look at. how the families responded after that. plane disappeared those families went on. on major news stations and they knew.

something was wrong with this plane and. with the story they knew they weren't. being told all the information that was. out there so this plane took off around. 1642 UTC from K andur and it goes dark. over the South China Sea about 40. minutes later the last communication. that we were given publicly was just a. mundan communication good night. Malaysian Airlines. 370 now this is where the mystery really. began because for several days.

that was all we knew this plane went. dark Somewhere over the South China Sea. nobody really has any idea and you can. start to see going back to your um. comment about conspiracies that right. away something wasn't right it seemed. like there might be a cover up at play. because several days later they said oh. no this plane actually didn't crash. anywhere near the South China Sea or. anything it turned back over Malaysia. Flew Over the peninsula of Malaysia and. it flew directly to panang airport and. then it deviates again and they end up.

losing it on Military radar and then it. takes a few days and around March 13th 5. days after this plane disappears unnamed. us intelligence sources float to the. media that this plane potentially went. into the South Indian Ocean which is. really convenient that's like saying oh. it just fell down a well somewhere and. you know we're never going to probably. be able to find it went to the worst. possible location now it wasn't. until about and a half months later that.

finally they release these immat pings. that say this is what the US. intelligence you know indicates that the. plane went to the South Indian Ocean and. just to slow this down for people that. don't even know what an iMat ping is. just describe to them what that. satellite what the satellite pings. actually are so the logic was they have. these satellites in geostationary orbit. and they are pinging the airliners all. the time and what was interesting is. that this airplane was actually between. two different uh satellites should have.

been pinging both of them but. interestingly enough it stopped pinging. one of them before it took off and never. ping that satellite ever again why this. is problematic is that we couldn't. triangulate the position anymore if you. have multiple pings you can triangulate. the exact position of the plane so these. pings get released but the company. itself and no government officials do. any analysis on them they leave it to. bloggers on the internet to say go. figure out what you think happened this. is where something called The.

Independent group gets formed um a bunch. of just to be clear who controls those. those immet satellites who owns them so. speak yeah so the company imrat actually. has connections to us intelligence as. well of course they do right and if you. look at some of the people that are like. on their board it's a bunch of Admirals. and Generals and things like that from. the United States government um so what. the data basically I've looked at the. data myself it's one of those things. where you know basically no one ever. looks at it they just take everything. they hear at Faceook value without.

looking at the data my job is in. healthcare is working with databases all. the time so a relational database is. just a bunch of Excel spreadsheets that. are kind of linked together so when I. looked at this data this Excel. spreadsheet of these pings I started. scrolling through it from the plane. taking off and you get to the part where. this plane was like they lost contact. you know radar contact with it around. 1840 and the data just kind of stops and. the next 10 rows of data are like 5. hours of the plane flying into the South.

Indian Ocean and I look at that I go how. could anybody look at this and say that. this looks normal you've got hundreds of. rows of data and you got tens rows of. data and what this would indicate is. this location in the nicobar islands. they used these satellite pings to say. okay this plane goes past panang it. turns deviates starts flying through the. Straits of Mala and the anman Sea and. then it gets to this point in the. nicobar islands and makes a sharp turn. South into the South Indian Ocean that's. supposedly runs out of fuel and crashes.

down there is what they claim despite us. never having find in a debris field at. all and what these uh these independent. group uh experts so so to speak say is. that they look at these BTO offsets so. they're basically saying what's the time. between the satellite connecting to the. airplane how far is it away from the. airplane what was the interval of the. the message that was received and they. used this to create an arc and they say. okay well the plane must have been along. this Arc at some point and this is how. we found what they call the seventh Arc.

in the South Indian Ocean the Last. satellite ping what they don't tell you. is that there were some rows on here. that they couldn't make sense of so they. just kind of cut them out and what we're. going to find from the videos that had. reemerged on social media about a year. ago that inspired me to investigate this. is that there's coordinates in the video. that's called satellite video airliner. and UFOs and those coordinates are the. nicobar islands they're the location.

where this plane supposedly turned into. the South Indian Ocean so as an. investigator you look at this case and. you say you've got your first point in. the South China Sea where this plane. goes dark so something happened there. and you've got your second point at the. P panang airport the closest airport to. go to an emergency situation the plane. deviates and changes Direction and. doesn't land there and your third point. is that point in the nicobar islands. where all of a sudden the plan's taking. a sharp South turn into the South Indian. Ocean and you look at those three points. and I go okay well what are the.

scenarios that make sense for what. happened to this plane the prevailing. narrative right now is that this pilot. went on some kind of suicide route or. something like this which to me makes no. sense at all so they would say that okay. well the first point the pilot turned. off somehow all the electronics in the. plane made it untraceable right like all. the transponders transped and it's not. even clear that that's actually possible. um one of the first questions the New. York Times Reporter asked one of the. press conferences was is it even.

possible to make a plane go dark like. this and the minister of. transportation's response is we'll have. to look into that you're like this is. there's a plane missing here and you're. you're being evasive about answering. basic questions that that should just be. obvious the first question that's what. the New York Times respond uh reporter. says and the second point is panang. airport so this is where this narrative. out there says and you're not going to. believe this because you shouldn't is. that said he was saying goodbye to his. hometown because apparently he grew up.

in panang or something like that and. you're like well it's 2: in the morning. you're flying a suicide route or. something and you're you're flying over. a town to say goodbye to it makes no. sense at all and then the third point. that point of the nicobar islands they. don't have any answer for in fact we. know that there was actually five Radars. from at least three different countries. Thailand India and Indonesia they were. all still in range after Malaysia. supposedly lost contact with this plane.

off of radar none of those countries. have ever come forward about this and. Aaron Rogers actually was asked about me. he's football player for people who. don't know and one of the things that he. said which was true is that does it. there's some like the engine companies. should have data on this Rolls-Royce and. Boeing and they should in fact there was. an article in the Wall Street Journal. several days after the plane disappeared. that was retracted later on and. Rolls-Royce has never made their data. available Rolls-Royce data I've heard. various metrics on this but some say.

that that data could be pinging back to. Rolls-Royce from the engines like every. 15 seconds which would indicate there's. no chance they don't know what happened. to the plane so you've got all this. information that's just never made. publicly available and it should beg the. question for people like what is going. on here the biggest thing though is what. is the US government hiding the United. States government has something called. cbers space-based infrared system some.

people may have heard about it some. podcasters have actually brought this. system up it's built by locked Martin we. use constellations of satellites now. it's not like Enemy of the State in the. 990s with Will Smith and Jean Hackman. where you're just looking down through a. satellite anymore we actually only have. five Optical T satellites left in outer. space all the rest are radar and. infrared and then we have this. constellation of satellites constantly. scanning the entire globe and they're. beaming that information to ground BAS. computers it's not just real time you.

can you know just like when we flew. plast Pluto with our you know the. satellite we sent out there and we built. this image of Pluto you can do the same. thing with planet Earth but in real time. so presumably we have like real time. coverage of the entire planet and you're. telling me that a Boeing trip 7 this. plane is the size of a city block holds. 300 people crashed somewhere in the. ocean then didn't leave a debris field. that we couldn't see on a satellite or. or China or Russia or any of the other.

countries that have nobody saw it. anywhere but there's more than that we. also have something called sosus The. Sound surveillance system which is a. Navy system that's been around since. like the 40s or. 50s this is the one that heard that that. Titan sub pop uh that was near the. Titanic yeah that was a big giveaway. because what happened all the news. stations had these oxygen counters going. down they've got 48 Hours of oxygen left. or whatever the knew that sub imploded.

for 5 days and they never said anything. and then after it turned out that they. we found out that it imploded they came. out and admitted yes it imploded and the. thing that was really kind of revealing. to me is how quickly the Navy went down. and found the parts like they had. triangulated the exact location of that. sub and that's a tiny little submersible. so if they can detect that how could. they not detect a bing trip 7 crashing. into the ocean there was even this. Cardiff University uh scientific paper.

that was just released in May of this. year and they looked at These acoustic. detectors this is not the sosus system. but just acoustic Tor one in Diego. Garcia military base in the malds and. another one off the coast of Western. Australia these are not quite you know. the crash site supposedly seventh Arc is. somewhere in between these two locations. they didn't find any acoustic detections. for the whole duration of the flight. path that were consistent with a plane. hitting the ocean even on a slow descent.

they found one from one acoustic. detector that was about half an hour to. an hour after the plane would have. already ran out of fuel so doesn't. really make any sense there and they. also showed the math they did a bnch. they looked at a bunch of other similar. situations and they said there's no. chance that we wouldn't have heard it if. it had actually crashed down there and. then the last piece of information. regarding our surveillance capabilities. is Over the Horizon radar so a lot of. people think of radar as like this line.

of sight type ranging and detection. system but actually we have something. called Over the Horizon radar which. bounces off the ionosphere and can see. and detect aircrafts missiles etc for. thousands of miles so we have two of the. most advanced military bases in the. world Diego Garcia military base and. pine Gap in Australia there both of. which theoretically would be within. range of the entire flight path of this. plane and you're telling me that none of.

these systems saw anything the last bit. is there was two military exercises. going on in that area next to Thailand. it's called Cobra gold and cop tiger the. Cobra gold exercises had just ended and. the cop tiger exercises were just about. to begin was between Thailand United. States and Singapore I believe China was. actually um a guest during that exercise. that year as well the uh cop tiger. exercises the theme was search and. rescue that year as well so presumably.

they would have had all the assets right. there in that area most advanced assets. you're telling me a Boeing 7 flew past. our military exercises and we just. didn't see it at all just doesn't make. any sense so we know the United States. government Beyond any shadow of a doubt. must know what happened to this plane do. you want to have a deeper prayer life. but don't know where to start well I get. that and so does hallow which is why I'm. excited to tell you about Hallow's new. prayer challenge how to pray prayer can. be such a daunting thing to undertake. where do you start what do you say I. remember when I was first learning about. Catholicism being in awe at how many.

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when something happens and people are. confused about it they put out so many. possible theories I mean you're talking. like a game of Clue I guess people in. the UK would call it a game of cluto and. it's essentially the butler did it in. the pantry just and and then you're like. oh why right here in the New York Times. that they think that it could have like. the the pilot was a drunk and got into a. fight and wanted to just fly over and. say goodbye well I read here over here. in the Wall Street Journal that would. actually happened was it ran out of well. I read here that it was on fire so. there's actually so much information. that is intentionally put out there to.

confuse people that they can't actually. get to truth but they're sure that. they're getting closer to Truth by. consuming all of this because it's. coming from the experts it's coming from. sources and once you understand that. that is their repeat pattern which is. basically to flood the Zone with so much. information but there's actually no. information and I do agree the most. ridiculous one for me was this is pilot. on like a murder suicide mission first. off just talking about mental mental. stability like Pilots tend to be like. the most mentally a people and there was.

absolutely nothing to back up their. claims it sounded like such an exercise. to just disinform the public and say oh. we I think years later they said well. they never told us but when they went to. go look through his house they saw that. he had mapped out he had mapped out. geographically the exact route they took. why would he have to do that he's a. pilot he doesn't have to map out he. knows to do that like while he's in the. plane and so when I look back on it now. I'm like wow it is it it just follows.

that standard pattern of a classic. military intelligence operation coverup. and I want to allow people right now to. watch these two videos that I'm going to. show them these videos actually first. we're going to watch the the video. that's not thermal which was how many. years later did it come into the public. sphere yeah so the the satellite video. was the first video to get published the. satellite video was May 19th 2014 so.

this is 70 days after the plane. disappears but in the description of the. video and this was from a reg side a non. YouTube account that was the name of the. YouTuber Regis side a non some obscure. YouTube account with a dozen followers. or something like that um this video. actually in the description says. received March 12th. 2014 that's 4 days after the plane. disappeared it says Source protected and. this was a YouTube account that was. somehow associated with the UFO. phenomenon we've seen their other videos.

they have on there nothing anything. remotely similar to this so we don't. know exactly what their Source was when. we dug through it it seems like there. might have been like a forum that's like. spanish-based that maybe somehow these. videos got on there and people started. posting them CU this was just the first. person to post them other people ended. up posting them later on so this right. away starts to build this time frame for. okay you've got a very small window of. opportunity to make this video and when.

people look at this satellite video a. lot of people first of all can't even. tell what direction you're looking. people go well where's outer space and. you're go no you're looking down you're. not looking up well so it goes to show. this is why the United States government. protects surveillance capabilities so so. well because if we find out about. surveillance capabilities then we can. feed through some of that disinformation. and we can figure out oh wait no we. absolutely must know about a plane. disappearing and you can app to other. world events that go on as well and so.

it makes it much harder for them to. misinform the public that's out there. but again the strongest evidence on the. satellite video is the coordinates it's. got these coordinates on the bottom left. and Newsweek actually published a fake. debunk two days after these videos got. popular on August 9th. 2023 these videos got popular on August. 7th of last year in 2023 2 Days Later. Newsweek all of a sudden posts this. debunk and it's just to copy and paste. like an AI took it from another article.

that was out there the only factual. claim in there was that in those. coordinates it said. nr33 which is a national reconnaissance. office launch of of satellites the. problem was that the n33 was launched in. like 2015 or late 2014 so after the. videos were out there so they said oh it. must be fake but if you just look at the. coordinates you can realize it doesn't. say NR 33 it says nr22. nrl22 is USA 184 this satellite was.

launched in 2006 and it was the first. satellite launch of the cber system. space Bas infrared system that I was out. there to me that's quite the coincidence. for someone to put that down there it. turns out on these constellations of. satellites they use relay satellites. because not all satellites are within. range of the groundbased systems that. they need and nrl22 USA 184 has a. Millenia orbit so it takes this oblong. orbit which seems like it's I think they.

call midar orbit satellites it's a good. candidate to be a relay satellite. because it spends a lot of its time. above the North Pole which is it's in. angle of view of many other satellites. that are out there and the coordinates. initially we weren't sure like like you. I only woke up you know in the last. let's say four to eight years I was. someone who I call CNN brain type person. who just believed whatever the TV told. you. and so I thought well this plane must.

have crashed in the South Indian Ocean. cuz that's what all the narratives were. down there so when you looked at the. coordinates if you had added a minus. sign in front of the north south. coordinate it actually put the plane in. the South Indian Ocean somewhere and I. thought okay even though it was like. hard to explain why there might be a. minus sign like just cut off that you. couldn't see I thought this must be what. it is but when we actually graphed the. coordinate shifts because you have this. perspective shift on this satellite. video we realized. there's no possible way for it to have a.

minus sign of it because if you graft it. either it must be going south into the. east or North into the East and if. you're going north into the East you're. turning to the right if you're going. south into the East you're turning to. the left well we have two videos that. bull a plane turning to its left that. means this must be there's no minus sign. that must be the nicobar islands it's. within a 100 miles of where a real life. witness saw the plane that she's just. been discredited as well at the same.

time that the day the plane was lost. they said that the plane was lost at or. subang air traffic control lost contact. with the plane at 1840 UTC that's the. same time the witness saw the plane. that's the same time the plane would. have been in this area where this video. is filming it so you look at that you go. okay for me I've already got enough. evidence that like I need the US. government to say something about these. videos but there's more. let's let's show let's show that first.

video right. now e.

so this is one of these exercises that I. I say to people what the mainstream. media and the intelligence agencies are. now instructing us not to believe your. own eyes so I know you just saw and. you're going wait a minute what just. happened I was following this and then. suddenly it's gone and so your brain is. coming online and you're going wasn't I. trained by the mainstream not to believe. my own eyes some somebody will explain. to me oh this is a fake video.

something's wrong with it and I do also. want to show you guys this alongside the. the thermal image of the of this. happening as well where did we get this. the the thermal image was this created. after the fact same account so same. exact account uh about two weeks so it. actually on the thermal video it said. the first video was just called. satellite video airliner and and UFOs it. doesn't say anything about MH370 but we. dug to the metadata and there's a tag in. the metadata for.

MH370 the second video says uh it's like. UAV drone video and then in the. description says alternate angle from. previous video says receive June 5th. 2014 published June 12th 2014 so this. was you know two to three weeks after. that first video and now you start to. build like a story in terms of okay this. first video comes out and if this is a. real video someone's leaked this they. want people to pick it up nobody picks. it up and then all of a sudden boom now.

we've got a second video from a predator. drone from a completely different angle. than the first one and so when people. ask like what would it take for you to. be convinced that something's real it's. like well I want two different videos. from you know different angles from high. quality sources military sources and you. know what put one of them in infrared. and the other one in a thermal and make. sure they line up the time lines up yeah. line up perfectly and they in sync we've. dug through it can't find any Gracy not. even in the movement of the orbs or on.

the plane nothing at all out there and. going back real quick to the satellite. video probably the other most compelling. piece is you see this cursor mouse. cursor come off the top right of the. screen because if this is a real video. that's a recording of someone's computer. and they're on a much bigger field of. view so you're you can tell because this. mouse comes off the top of the side of. the screen and they probably just hit. start record and the mouse comes on the. screen and you can actually tell the. mouse stays still when the perspective. Ive shifts and people looked at The.

Mouse and the background of that. satellite video is 6 frames per second. it's kind of like slowly jerky a little. bit you can kind of tell with your eyes. but the cursor is actually 24 frames per. second and people piece it together. right away that this is consistent with. a citric session a remote terminal. session so for people that aren't. familiar with working at big companies. and potentially the government a lot of. the data is being stored in databases. that are remotely hosted so what you do. you log in in to that database to that.

server and you access the the data on. that computer server and when you do. that almost everybody I know uses Citrix. so now if these videos are fake someone. is like knows how our systems are set up. out there very quickly and very very. quickly or somebody saw these videos. just like the people watching this right. now and kind of freaked out and went. wait what they were like the world has. to know because no one's going to figure. this out without seeing these videos.

they're not trying to end up like Edward. Snowden having to learn Russia Russian. because they've revealed some sort of a. government secret so they just put it. onto the internet and let the internet. do what the internet does and I think. that to your point about the CIA. disinformation stuff as well they. probably didn't even realize how much. control the government has over the. media you know like to project. Mockingbird for example I absolutely. believe that the government controls the. perception of the media strongly and.

they probably just thought they would. end up being like a hero or something or. that the media would pick up on this but. of course the government was never going. to let that happen so these videos got. no traction anywhere and most people. even myself in 2014 I remember seeing. the Drone video you can tell it's a. drone because you can see the drone's. nose in the video and these drones. actually have these slots that are. customizable on the wings where you can. pull out you put a Hellfire missile on. there whatever you can put a camera on. there we've found the drones have. cameras in that exact location as well.

like an mq1 C Great Eagle is is one of. those um so they might have thought that. the media was going to pick up on this. and then they never did of course the. media's job is to not pick up on that. specifically and the world had no idea. like I looked at that drone video and I. had just didn't know what I was looking. at in 2014 because I followed this case. back then as just you know an. independent Citizen and civilian and. thought well that's a weird video and. this was before the dod Navy released. those uh those UFO videos and.

Declassified them and even that so. before that I didn't even know we used. like forward-looking infrared Fleer so I. had no idea of even the basis of our. technology capabilities from. surveillance perspective but now in 2023. when I first when I saw those videos. again I went whoa I remember seeing this. and for me it was when I saw that second. video and I went okay this is bizarre. and then when I saw the citric session. evidence I went okay this is like way. too much and I asked the question. instead of everybody else saying this.

must be fake this is stupid blah blah. blah I said what would it take for this. video to be real and that's when I. started investigating the stories that. we've been told the evidence that's out. there the witnesses and just as a. summary like I've accumulated so much. evidence around the real situation. around this plane that the only way. anyone could convince me these videos. are not real is either this hoaxer. supposedly that them would have to come. forward which you have offered money.

yeah we had. $150,000 Bounty so and this was this was. real money like we had kim.com threw up. 100,000 Chad and Sherry the investigate. Earth podcast who I've become very good. friends with over just talking about. this stuff on many of their podcasts. they threw up another 20,000 and then I. had a wealthy uh supporter that had run. for higher office that actually run for. Congress in the past that tax me was. like I'll throw another 25,000 in and I. was like well I'll throw 5,000 just to. round it out so for months we had this.

out there and there's a lot of. disinformation about that where people. say oh well it's to prove the videos are. fake but it was I mean I need proof and. the only way to get proof is you need. the hoaxer to come forward with here's. the work that I did because it's not a. crime I mean you can just be like yeah I. hoed you I did I did a good job but not. taking 150k you know maybe uh Disney. will pick you up or. some look at that look at that work you. know I you think about the the. psychological profile of the hoaxer. doesn't really make much sense either. but nobody ended up coming forward in. fact it started to draw like people.

trying to just like lie about it as well. so after several months I realized no. one's going to ever come forward we we. ended up taking the Bounty down because. people were trying to scam me and do all. this other stuff because people are just. horrible honestly um but yeah you would. take the hoaxer to come forward with. their Source work because if you made. these you're not deleting that off your. hard drive you're going to save that. forever uh or finding the plane but even. finding the plane at this point like. that plane better be like fully intact. with like 239 bodies on it at the bottom.

of the ocean somewhere with 10 years of. Decay on it right because where is this. plane like how does the plane even hit. the ocean without breaking into a. million pieces before we get to your. theory which is the only thing that. makes sense if I believe my own eyes um. the debris did turn up years. later speak about that speak about that. or some a very small piece of the let me. address the the arguments and the claims. that people make that I think people are.

are well known about is that first of. all this pilot suicide I call the pilot. suicide myth because there is really no. physical evidence for the pilot suicide. scenario if you were to crash a plane. like the German Wings guy did in 2015 he. locked a co-pilot out and he crashed the. plane in under 10 minutes I I went and. looked it up because people were trying. to compare the two scenario he didn't go. on an 8 Hour Joy Ride he certainly. didn't fly to the nearest airport to. land a Boeing trip 7 um The Narrative. about there was all this Missin. information spread about the pilot. saying that like he was into girl like.

some cheating on his wife or he had. mental issu they tried to claim he was a. terrorist like all this stuff was fake. uh Florence aangi is probably the number. one investigator that I respect related. to mh70 I've spoken to her several times. she actually got his medical records his. family released them to her and there. was no red flags mentally he had nothing. wrong whatsoever with him and then they. start passing this simulator data that. you were mentioning out around and they. said. oh well this mean this proves that he.

planned this route but if you actually. dug into the facts it turned out from. that simulat data was from February 2nd. and February 3rd and it was actually. mh150 from qual andur to Jetta and he. was scheduled to fly that route February. 4th so he was literally just practicing. and I've got a graph or image out there. that shows like all the the mh150 routes. and it's exactly the same as what. they're saying was on this simulat. and then they take one single point in. the South Indian Ocean they just connect.

it together and claim oh that's that's. theout even though it doesn't match at. all the real route of the MH 370 you. know what it does do it bars everybody. else out because the majority of people. who don't understand that are not going. to dig that deeply they just need. something that okay how do we button up. this little mystery and feed that to the. public and say oh look we figured it out. actually we dug through his stuff and he. was plotting out this route and he. actually was a crazy person even though. his wife says he was and everyone. everyone around him says he wasn't but. we we just need we need our Fall Guy and. we're picking the pilot and somehow he.

was able to do some James Bond type. anding the transponders went on a little. Joy Ride waved goodbye to his hometown I. mean it sounds insane like the. conspiracy is what they always sell you. like that sounds that is more insane. than the concept of they're hiding. something and your government is lying. to you exactly and even if you don't. want to believe the videos are real just. because you can't believe that we have. that kind of Technology you have to. believe that the government knows what. really happened to this plane there's. just too much evidence for that and you.

have to tell that you have to be able to. tell that there's some kind of. obfuscation going on with regards to. this whole situation it stinks start to. finish um so yeah the and like you said. his family his co-workers everybody. ruled it out the FBI even looked at the. simulator data they ruled it out the. officials ruled out the simulator data. but somehow this narrative keeps. spreading and so what people will say is. well the ocean is really big so it could. have crashed basically anywhere but. that's not true cuz remember we have. these satellite pings these satellite. pings indicate the seventh Arc is where.

this plane ran out of fuel so there. unless you think planes can fly without. fuel which maybe some people do out. there uh then that's as far as it can. possibly go and they searched up and. down the entire seven or up and down the. entire flight path to the seventh Arc as. well including the largest most. expensive search in human history. they've done two above and below water. searches there and they're planning a. third in November they never found a. single thing and then people say well. didn't they find some debris well again. this is one of those things where if you.

look into it all of a sudden it just. makes no sense like the Netflix. documentary which I personally think was. one of the worst documentaries I've ever. seen in my entire life just didn't even. cover a fraction of the evidence that's. out there um they mentioned that this. flapper on washes up in The Reunion. Island and I will give Jeff wise a. little bit of credit because he he can't. really see the full picture but he tell. he can tell that there's certain wrong. with certain piece of evidence and this. flaton in The Reunion Island this is.

near Africa if you look at the actual. like supposed a crash site and you look. at the debris drift analysis which was. performed before they found any of the. debris all the debris should have washed. up in Western Australia the currents. down there flow to the east can't change. the direction of the currents as far as. I know we're not changing the ocean. currents and then you go and it says. like even for that piece to get to The. Reunion Island it would take roughly 2. years well they found it in just over. one year so right now just basic physics.

basic math says how did this get there. so what they do is they throw some. boards in the ocean and they realize. right away no Chance is going to make 3. in fact I think they had it shown up in. the Middle East somewhere based on their. models so they go ignore that that that. didn't happen and they get a flapper on. and they like think they tie down part. of it so that it sticks out of the water. a little bit and they go I'm sorry to. ask a dumb question what is a flapper uh. flaperon is a piece of the airplane it's. around 7 to 8 ft long it's one of those.

the things that kind of moves up and. down on the wing of the aircraft yes. that thing that literally flaps and for. people say oh this is a giant piece of. the plane it's really not each one of. those wings is 100t long so this is a. 78t piece of that in fact I looked it up. recently you don't even need a flapper. on the Fly and you don't need a flapper. on the land either so this doesn't even. prove that a plane crashed like but. they're saying that they did find this. flapper on debris here off the coast of. Africa you're saying okay wait a second. the tides absolutely cannot and even if.

the tides could it would have taken two. years for it to arrive here so the math. is not mathing as we say exactly and. what I want to tell people who are. watching too is that I believe the. debris they found is actually from MH370. in fact I think that the story that I. put forth is one of the only stories. that makes sense for that debris to be. from MH370 because I've got the plane. going somewhere completely different. than this South Indian Ocean narrative. that's going on but they also when they. saw this fla Ron sticking out of the. water like this they went oh that that's. enough because now we can argue that the. wind was going to blow on it and this is.

somehow how it defied the ocean currents. to get to Reunion Island the problem was. there was Barnacles on the piece that. was sticking out of the water well how. how is that possible how are barnacles. forming out of the water on there and. then they looked at the growth of the. Barnacles and they found that the. Barnacle growth is only four months well. okay but now it takes two years to get. there but you've only got four months of. Barnacle growth on it and so they have. to come up with all these convoluted. reasons now the flapper on there was. about about I don't know let's say 10 to.

20 pieces that was by far the biggest. piece the rest are just tiny pieces like. this there was a Rolls-Royce engine. cowling which is the the piece on the. engine or whatever it's got the big RR. on it shows up in South Africa that's. almost 3,000 miles away from the crash. site in about 18 months somewhere like. that after the plane disappeared. literally impossible for it to Flo that. far so the fla Ron is actually the. closest location all the rest of this. stuff was on like Mainland Africa and.

you look at that you go there's just. absolutely no possible chance it could. have crashing that site so the reason. why then I asked people show me on the. map where you think this plane crashed. is because if you don't think that the. satellite pings are correct that this. seventh Arc is not where the plane ended. then you have to throw out the satellite. pinks either they've been fabricated or. misinterpreted or something and remember. I looked at those and I think anybody. else should look at them themselves and. realized this doesn't look you know the. way the data just it's too sparse and I.

even talked to some of these independent. group experts and I asked why does the. data just like cut off right here at. 1840 when this plane is in nicobar. Islands nobody give me a straight answer. they would just say it's normal it's. normal I'm going nothing about this. situation is normal like this is. extraordinary so this is where like if. the satellite pings are not correct then. if you look the totality of the evidence. it presents a completely different story. of what happened to this plane and my.

Approach has been when I looked at this. I want to take all the evidence. everything that was thrown out dismissed. projected and I wanted to look at it all. totality and I found that the only thing. you have to throw out is the satellite. pings after the nicobar islands and. you've got a comprehensive story that's. got 20 Witnesses completely different. event that people had actually. speculated on like PhD experts had. speculated on Etc that is also. potentially consistent with the video. and consistent with where that debris. showed up okay so for my people who are.

not science-minded I want you to know. that the reason that you're not science-. minded is because the government doesn't. want you to be that's the overwhelming. majority of people in society who don't. Excel especially in Western Society in. math or science I believe there's a. reason for that because it gives the. people that do excel in it a tremendous. amount of power over you but you do. still have two eyes you did just watch. that video you think you saw something. that was flying and then maybe what you. might cribe as UFOs three of them. surrounding it and then suddenly.

everything seems to have disappeared I'm. now going to introduce for you guys a. video of somebody describing a. technology which somebody theorized. could have been produced this guy. theorized about in. 1990 and I guess we'll just call it Star. Trek technology take a take a look at. this video the concept of w Drive was. first imagined by science fiction author. John Campbell way back in 19 31 in his. novel islands of space however it wasn't.

until 1990s that physicist Miguel aluar. proposed a real world method of. achieving faster than light travel this. concept was based on the works of kython. and his research on wormholes and time. travel however while wormholes remain. completely theoretical the aluar W Drive. is based on established laws of physics. so how does it work the the key to warp. drive is in fact in its name according.

to Einstein's theory of relativity. SpaceTime can be wared by gravity and. that is the reason why planets and stars. are attracted to each other the alabar. War Drive takes this idea a step further. by suggesting that instead of propelling. the spaceship at the speed of light we. can W the space around the spaceship. thus connecting two distant points in. space and covering the distance at. normal Speed The aluar W Drive would. work by creating a bubble of SpaceTime.

around the spacecraft this bubble would. contract the space in front of the. spacecraft and expand the space behind. it thus allowing the spacecraft to ride. a wave of SpaceTime it's like surfing. but on a cosmic scale allowing it to. travel at a speed faster than light. without actually breaking the cosmic. limit see the spaceship isn't moving at. the speed of light but the space around. it is so that's an odd thing but don't. worry like that guy says it doesn't. exist yet it's a theory that you could I.

guess ride a wave and something would. just I move an object faster than the. speed of light it's not like our. government has any technology like that. don't worry about it don't worry about. it keep learning about the social. sciences at. school so that seems far out and yet it. kind of is the only thing that could. make sense now before we get into that. let's just talk about what people.

actually say they saw that day because. then if you go okay if this thing did. actually happen why would it happen why. why wouldn't you just land the plane and. not not have to send out the. intelligence agencies and the operation. Mockingbird people to cover this event. like if the government is involved why. yeah great question and you know I think. you made a great Point as well is that. we stopped believing what we see with. our eyes you know and that is one of the. things that's really blown me away it's. how easy it is for the government to lie.

to us and throw us off the scent for. stuff even we have this massive amount. of evidence I remember when I was on. with uh the confessionals with Tony. Merkel it was the first in-person. interview I did and I was still fresh in. the case last year around September and. I was trying to figure out what's the. what's the overall story why did we. cover this up is this a situation where. there's some kind of Espionage angle at. play or is this some kind of UFO. situation that's going on here we've got. these orbs circling around the plane I.

knew enough about Star Trek and alberry. drive to think like hm like is that. what's going on so I started digging. into the case of it so we've heard now. the suicide narrative that's out there. and that's generally the prevalent one. The Narrative that doesn't get talked. about a lot is the fire narrative and I. think the fire narrative has so much. evidence it's almost undeniable there. was already a bunch of situations before. Malaysian aens flight 370 where planes. had burned up and from lithium ion. batteries in their cargo bay and it.

turns out that Malaysian Airlines CEO. just didn't tell people that there was. 500 lbs of dangerous lithium ion. batteries in the cargo of this plane. until March 20th 2014 so this is 2 weeks. after the plane disappeared now why. would they lie about that for so long it. turns out it missed two security. screenings as well now I spoke to Billy. Vincent so I started Googling around. saying MH370 fire and I started finding.

these experts that were talking about. these news articles about it one was Dr. edel he's in a Daily Beast article you. can read he says what happened is. perfectly consistent with a fire event. and Billy Vincent had speculated even. before March 20th that this was a fire. event so I actually reached out to him. recently and said sir could I talk to. you about how you knew that this plane. had a fire event going on related to it. and he told me that he had looked into. or he was he was former security. director for the FAA back in like the.

80s maybe 90s and he said well I looked. at like UPS flight 6 and this was a. flight that I think was uh either UAE or. Dubai somewhere over there and it was a. cargo uh plane UPS and it was carrying. lithium ion batteries and in that. scenario the batteries ignited in the. cargo smoke accumulated in the plane it. actually uded the windows for the. cockpit and the pilot tried to put their. gas mask on they got out of their seat. to grab their mask that was right behind.

them passed out immediately because. that's how dangerous the smoke is like. just one to two inhalations and you're. out wow see I've always wondered why. they always ask you now do you have any. lithium batteries at your you're. carrying in your luggage so this is the. reason why because lithium ion has this. it's it it's obviously highly flammable. what's actually creating that because I. don't understand it what creates that. environment that it makes it so. dangerous for it to be flown and yeah. this is where like when I started. finding out batter I asked the same. thing you first thing I said like oh. this is why they're asking me when I go.

mail a letter at the post office like a. letter they're like is there a lithium. battery in here I'm going it's a letter. what are you talking about because. they're so afraid that a plane was going. to burn up now what uh Mr Vincent told. me was that especially back in the early. 2010s and the manufacturers probably. won't admit to this but they used to. have common defects were very common in. these Batteries Now lithium ion. batteries are extremely dense with. energy which is why we use them in. phones computers Tesla cars scooters.

everything that's out there and they're. prone to something called thermal. runaway which means that once they. ignite and it's usually the two common. causes are either they overheat or they. have a defect in them like if you Dent. it that will cause it to just boom and. essentially start to ignite and the. problem is you can't get them out if you. even if you put it out temporarily it. just comes back up again oh fascinating. yeah and so you that's what's in our. phones yeah was our phone now I think. they' probably improved them since then.

but what I'll say is that the FAA like. if you look at the timeline on the faa's. website they have a graph with these. lithium ion battery incidents on them as. well and we really didn't know much. about them in the early 2010s actually. even now 2023 uh 2022 uh the last two. years they've accumulated data there's. over 70 incidents of lithiumion. batteries starting on fire in the. passenger area of car of passenger. planes every year so that's like over. one a week that these are happening and. this is a situation where just like.

people's phones are are lighting up and. then they throw them in this bag and. they like pour water on them because. there's no easy way to put them out the. hon 1301 fire suppression devices they. have in these airplanes can't keep them. out they just keep coming back up and up. and up again so you look at the scenario. this is exactly what happened with. upsb yeah so this is and two of these. were we we looked through everything we. looked at the cargo and we found out. they were stacked up in the forward. cargo bay two pallets of them right next. to the equipment the M the equipment Bay.

the electronics Bay which is where all. your sensitive electronics are and this. was another reason why uh Mr Vincent had. thought that the fire would be uh the. reason because in the UPS flight 6. situation the fire burnt through the car. the the hold in the cargo bay and it. starts to damage the electronics and. then in that situation this can explain. why the plane's going dark uh there was. even a wired article that was written. saying like oh fascinating so you're. saying. that explains the transponder situation. exactly so this is why the plane really.

went dark there the a wired article says. a startling simple explanation for what. happened at m370 was to be an electrical. fire that somehow the wires got burnt. and then the first thing the pilot would. do would pull the main bus plane would. go dark right and so you look at that. scenario you go oh well if I just add. this little shift to it and say it. wasn't just spontaneous fire it was the. lithium ion batteries ignited and and. then maybe they had already kind of. started and very quickly caused the.

plane to go dark within like a minute. and they might not have gotten like a s. like a sensor saying beep beep beep. warning fire in the cargo bay Etc and. once that thing is started now it's just. a race against the clock yeah especially. if you got 500 pounds which is what they. had that's like a confirmed fact but not. a conspiracy 487 exact of lithium ion so. okay you said that they had not logged. that though that they were putting it. onto the plane so my instant rational. brain is why not log that and also why. not just instantly tell the public it.

looks like there was a fire that. actually puts people at calm it was a. fire we're still looking for the plane. but it looks like the plane was on fire. and so that's the big question right. like if this was a fire event and I'll. tell more evidence related because. there's a lot um why why cover it up why. not mention it right away the answer to. me is pretty straightforward if you. mentioned there was this batteries on. board the plane on March 9th 2014 the. day after plane disappeared everyone's. going to immediately hone in on the fire. scenario because it's the most logical. explanation your plane is turning back.

and going to panang the closest airport. to land Bo 7 it's obviously an emergency. scenario right why doesn't the plane. land there well probably because the. smoke was covering the windshield of the. of the cockpit just the same way it did. with UPS flight 6 that was the reason. why that plane crashed because you would. say why couldn't they get back on the. ground they couldn't see anything it's. the middle of the night it's pitch black. as well they have no power it's not safe. for them to land either they have no. light either um in fact they're are 20. Witnesses maybe even more but 20 that we. found just from looking through news.

articles all corroborate a fire event. they've all been discredited there's no. witnesses that corate a suicide or. anything like that when the plane goes. dark and turns back um some of these. other experts that are investigated the. plane have determined based on the radar. that the plane actually did an emergency. descent maneuver that's the opposite of. what you would do in a suicidal scenario. if you're trying to make everybody pass. out you want to increase your altitude. and depressurize the plane if you're. going flying low you're potentially. doing that because you need to get the. smoke out of the plane and have people.

have enough oxygen to be able to breathe. which means you have to fly under 10,000. ft so we've got that we've got Mike. McKay on an oil rig who if you look back. at his reported sighting he says he saw. the plane on fire and if he saw the. plane on fire for like he says like 5. seconds he have a smoke break on his oil. rig and he sees it far off in the. distance turns out it had just rained so. it was perfect visual conditions to see. and he sees it low on the horizon which. is why the media distorts his report and. says he saw the plane crash he says no I. didn't see the plane CR I just saw it.

looked like a plane on fire for a few. seconds there was nine Witnesses along. the coast that all hear loud noises at. the exact same moment which would. indicate you know this plane the batter. is exploding something like that. soundrack carries on water plane turns. back around there's eight fishermen on a. boat 10 miles off the coast of Malaysia. and Thailand in between there and they. see the plane flying unusually low again. consistent with that turnback analysis. that was done so right away we can tell. you might say oh this was the perfect. location for them to turn off the plane.

that's what I think the people who think. this pilot did it say but you could also. just say it's also the perfect location. in general for an operation or it's the. perfect location to you know have your. plane go dark if you want to have people. be very confused the other thing too is. that the last witness so after the plane. gets to panang doesn't land and starts. flying to the nicobar islands we have. Katherine T she's the star witness her. sighting is well reported she had a. block blog back then so she blogged all. about it she reported it when she got to. Thailand she was on a boat with her.

husband and one other person they middle. of the night she was on you know uh on. deck for you know duty to make sure they. don't crash in anything or what have you. and she sees this plane flying unusually. low no navigation lights glowing orange. with dark smoke coming out of the back. of it and she sees it flying low and. descending over the course of her. sighting this is consistent with a CH CH. times only report US Government no. Western media ever picked it up that.

China had intercepted a Navy. communication from. MH370 from the taipe embassy I believe. in. Thailand that the plane was attempting. an emergency landing and. disintegrating and this is consistent. with the fire event and what Katherine T. saw and what we see in those videos. where we're looking at these two smoke. Trails coming out of the back of the. plane those videos that we just watched. as well we can tell the plane's very low. because those clouds we see cumulus. clouds they only form at very low.

altitudes and it looks like this plane. is doing a turn as well if you're trying. to land in the ocean you don't need to. land straight you can you can spin your. way down to get down to the water as. well even the direction of travel is. consistent with Katherine T's sighting. and even consistent with the videos as. well so we've got this whole scenario. that now looks like well this is a fire. event but if it's a fire like I talked. to Billy Vincent and a couple other. experts that have tested ified on the. hill related to fire events on planes.

and they said that the plane could last. for an hour Billy Vincent thought the. plane could last for several hours. because the fire suppression devices I. looked them up as well they have about. three hours of fuel they have these. automatic ones that deploy to. immediately put the fire out and they. have the slow uh rate um bottles there's. like five bottles of these looks like a. little like kind of bomb from the old. Acme cartoons you know uh and so they. could keep this thing uh at Bay but it's. never going to make it 8 hours into the. South Indian Ocean to the where it goes.

down there so just a question what would. be happening on board let's let's map. out this fire event because what H what. would happen if lithium if lithium ion. is now in the air because I think you. mentioned before that the pilot had. passed out very quickly yeah in UPS 6. yeah so a lot of it of course is going. to be somewhat speculative because we. don't have videos or anything going on. but one thing that's another very very. strong piece of evidence is the Asian. Minister of Defense if people haven't. watched the video and I'll make sure I I.

send it to you to add in here a couple. of the clips he did an interview uh with. the Australian broadcaster about seven. weeks after this plane disappeared. plenty of time to have all the facts. available and he won't say anything. verifiable about this plane at that. point an aircraft unidentified was. detected that morning that came out I've. I've said that in the beginning and I. think that's confirmed by the Prime. Minister too what did the mil do when it. was detected well I mean it is an.

airline that came from our airspace is a. commercial airline and the militaries. actually said that they didn't consider. it as a hostile U um aircraft why what. were they relying on to come to the. conclusion that it wasn't well there's a. call uh by the uh um officer that was in. charge of it and like I said earlier. there was an inquiry under the um the. royal military Air Force that will come. out. too but one thing he does is he slips up.

he says they knew it was commercial. plane and they knew it wasn't hostile. that's why they didn't send up Jets to. track the plane that's the first thing. like if there's a plane going off course. you're thinking okay terrorist attack. and you're why aren't you sending the. Jets and he is his answers are. so crazy he's like he asked the. interviewer well why would we send up. jets would you shoot down the plane and. she's going what do you mean shoot down. the plane like just track the plane. right you've got a rogue plane he's why.

would we do that we knew it's not. hostile so he messed up and he messed up. because how could you know it's not. hostile unless you know it's not hostile. unless you have communication with the. plane right that's the only way because. otherwise it could be a hijacking could. be a suicidal pilot must be y suicidal. so now we're starting to see what really. happened is that they had communication. with the plane they just didn't they. classified those commun they never. released them selective release of. information right Lies by emission. one of the other things he says too is. she asks him why would you shoot down.

the plane he goes well the Americans. would and you're like wait what it looks. like he's looking at his Handler he gets. these weird facial expressions the. Malaysian people were so upset about. this guy in this interview if you read. the YouTube comments they're like why is. he smiling like who's he looking at they. keep wondering like it's pretty clear in. my mind that this guy got the call like. like you've got a tow the line. and he was not prepared for this. interview at all why would he say so he.

says say it again the American people. would was actually offensive to me is. like he was evoking 911 right cuz he's. like she asked him why would why shoot. down the plane you know cuz he's she's. trying to say like you would just track. the plane this why are you kind of being. uh um evasive about this and he's like. well the Americans would and you're like. it's just out of nowhere too and it's. almost like when people have all these. lies in their head and they've just got. to they're trying not to get out but it. so subconsciously gets out there it's. almost like he's saying the Americans.

talk to him and he you know he doesn't. he's got to be careful not to say it but. somehow it just kind of blurred it out. yeah let's actually check out that. moment right now because that sounds. crazy but why not send the Jets up if. you you you have conceded earlier that. you knew very early in the morning the. plane was missing there were there was 4. and a half hours time in which to resp. not hostile it was commercial it was. from our airspace we're not at war with. anybody. if they did go up in hindsight would you.

agree that we wouldn't be in the. situation we are now which is I don't. think so I don't think that's. speculative even if we send it are you. going to say that we're going to shoot. it. down well you said that not me no I'm. asking. you I could not not going to if not. going to shoot it down what's the point. of sending it up to see where it's going. well to see. you need a fighter for that they were. talking about military.

procedures and if I did shoot it down. You' be the first to say how can you. shoot down a commercial airline with TW. 14 Nationals half of them Chinese I'll. be in a worst position probably why. shoot it down though if it's not hostile. well the Americans. would so that is remarkably strange he. does this press conference it kind of. yields more questions than.

answers why even mention the Americans. This is an incident that happened in. Malaysia kind of a random country to. pick to say something about and you. think he got the call oh absolutely and. then you know going back to the fire the. the overall question of like you know. what was actually happening here this is. the part where the reason why I give. that disclaimer in the beginning for. condolences for the families is I. personally don't believe many if anybody. was even alive when we get to that point. in the videos because the um oxygen Mass.

on airplanes only lasts like 15 or 20. minutes little known fact so you better. not be holding out for those as your. hope if something were to happen on your. airplane and the lithium ion toxic smoke. is extremely dangerous there was an. incident just a couple months ago in. think in South Korea where like 23. people died from a a a fire in a factory. and you ask like how could all these. people die inside of a a building where. you could just run out there's even. videos of them battling the Blaze and. that's when you realize like one to two.

inhalations and you pass out and then. you just become overwhelmed out there so. the pilots were in a better situation. they have their own oxygen and they have. full breather head like headset that. they can put on them so if I had to. speculate I would say that at least one. if not both of the pilots were okay. probably even at the point where these. videos happen but the passengers as that. smoke is starting to build up in the. cabin they might not even no it and you. just fall asleep and then you never wake. up ever again so that's the thing that I.

think is really scary the co-pilot cell. phone pings a cell tower when they fly. over panang as well which indicates that. they were flying very low in fact. probably under 7,000 ft CU like if you. try to put your phone on when you're. your airplane once you get up a certain. height in certain altitude you don't. have any service anymore unless year. it's 911 and it's 2001 but we'll skip. we'll save that for another that's a. whole another uh Fiasco to deal with. um but yeah the but the 911 um you know.

that thought was always in the back of. everyone's mind 10 years ago when we. were thinking about this as well which. makes it even more ridiculous like they. didn't send up Jets to track the plane. because some people actually speculate. that they were going that hijackers took. the plane and they were going to crash. it into the Patronis Towers which are. two of the tallest buildings on the face. of the Earth I've actually been in. buildings really nice buildings by the. way um so you would think it's crazy to. think that they would not be afraid of a. Boeing trip 7 flying Rogue through their. airspace and yet they knew it was not. hostile so yeah there was a. communication there and by the way how.

did they wind up discrediting Catherine. T yeah so by the way what country is she. from she's from the UK but she's you. know an exp Patriot so she's all over. the country all over the world Etc which. you know I have an affinity for because. I I lived in Singapore for several years. right next to Malaysia actually um a lot. of my friends are from all over the. world as well I spoke to Katherine T. personally um because I wanted to hear. her story see if it changed at all I I. noticed her last Twitter post before I. spoke to her in like 2022 was uh you. know why have the families gone silent.

the silence is Sinister that was like. her last post and you realize like she's. not lying like she unless she's in this. the long this Con for the long game you. know like lying eight years later what. end didn't make any sense and so when I. spoke to her like everything she. basically reiterated everything that she. said in her blogs um but one of the. things that really stuck out to me was I. asked her what time do you think you saw. the plane cuz I wanted to get a good. time time because all these experts have. tried to massage the time she says 1840. UTC and I go whoa that's the time when.

the subang air traffic control so they. lost contact with a plane that's the. time the plane's in the location where. our coordinates are at that China times. reported Mayday call that was the plane. disintegrating they said that that was. at 2:43 a.m. which if that's Malaysian. time that's 1843 UTC that's within 5. minutes of Katherine T saying it then. she says I felt pressured by the other. experts to change my time they were all. trying to get me to change the time to. fit with their.

narratives and I asked these other. independent group experts none of them. could give me a any reason why they be. dismissing her they just it can't be. possible because you know the plane. couldn't possibly be on fire and last as. long because they all just blindly. believed the imersa pings are a source. of Truth unfalsifiable they just thought. that must be what happened in this. situation um t as well the glowing. orange plane I always wondered and this. was actually one of my favorite pieces I.

wrote when I was writing on Twitter like. kind of logging everything that I was. discovering because everybody was trying. to shoot me down for this you believe. aliens zap the plane or whatever and. then I find the fire event Katherine T. and I go there's a real world scenario. that makes a lot of sense it doesn't. include aliens or anything else like. this that's really. undeniable and the reason why the plane. was glowing orange is because Halon 1301. the fire Extinction gas has bromine in. it and bromine is a hallogen gas so if. you've got this gas and it's pumping.

onto these batteries and maybe some of. the uh crew are trying to pour water on. it you could have this chemical reaction. that's releasing bromine hallogen gas. glows orange so you can imagine why is. this plane got this orange Mist around. it because you've got bromine being. leaked out there and once I piece this. stuff together with all these Witnesses. I'm like here you go experts like do. your worst try to explain how this is. not possible you know and then back to. the original point it's like okay well.

but how does the fire event fit in with. these videos now like we they. corroborated because we see the smoke. coming out of the back of it but then. when you look at the videos again you go. oh this is why we made up this fake. story about the south Indian Ocean we. can't explain these videos to the public. especially not in 2014 probably not even. in 2024 to be honest because this is. some technology that people are not. ready on this world to accept and I. don't believe that those orbs are aliens. I don't even believe there's anything.

inside those orbs I think they're. autonomous balls of plasma and if we. have that technology there's a lot of. tough questions are going to be asked. like where did we get this technology. how long have we been hiding this. technology what does this mean about our. reality if we can just have three orbs. spin around a plane and then poof it. shoots through let's say a wormhole. because that's what I think we're. looking at and goes to a different. location on Earth instantaneously like.

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financing.net ens again that's American. financing.net. ens yeah so my theory and or I should. say really my understanding is that the. government is hiding a lot of Secrets. from us I think the government is making. us sick I think the government is making. us dumb and I think the purpose of that. is Sinister it's just to enslave the the. planet and they do this by pretending. that we're progressing they give you. something like an iPhone and then you. don't realize that kids can't do basic. math right so literally this is what so.

they're they're and you kind of look. back into all these stories now that I. realize you know how powerful the. government is and more importantly how. powerful the media is and I'm talking. about Hollywood as a component even the. kind of stories they tell us when we do. get technology is kind of Senseless it's. like everyone just sort of invented. technology in their garage like what's. going on Within These garages that like. everyone's like oh it's got together and. made Google you know got together made. YouTube b got together it's like and. then you into this you're going actually. this looks like quite an elite group of.

people who are introducing technology. that they've already had for quite some. time giving it to the public because. there is this illusion that we are. progressing and I actually am convinced. that we are regressing we've been. regressing for a very long time they are. they are slowing man down there there. there's a gap that is just being. established and it's getting bigger and. bigger and bigger between the elites and. what they know and what we know and this. is why they are obsessed with social. causes because there's nothing but hot. air so let's keep the students focused.

on CRT know forget math forget science. forget things that would allow you to. catch up with us we're going to teach. you about race Theory we're going to. teach you about the social sciences. we're going teach you about feminism all. of these things that mean nothing you. don't even know how to grow your food. which is happening right now right you. talk to women don't even know how to. cook forget growing their food they. don't know how to cook men don't know. how to hunt I mean we're talking about a. generation of lost knowledge that. happened very quickly what your. grandparents knew versus what you know.

and you're convinced you're smarter than. your grandparents you couldn't even. survive outside you would die if you had. to survive outside that is the. overwhelming majority of people just die. instantly and I have placed it I think. there's been uh concert efforts to do. these sort of resets in society and I. think that one definitely happened. around in the middle of the 19th century. like sometime during the 1800s mid 1800s. they did a huge reset and there's a lot. of stuff that just hasn't been explained. and because I got there before I ever.

saw your theory I went oh yeah this this. is right up there again it's the. illusion of. progression and then by giving you. little little things here and there that. actually aren't advancing mankind. actually they're slowing mankind down. you're no longer thinking Google tells. you what to think like oh I have Google. I can just look it up how much knowledge. have you actually retained and I'll give. you another example of this not to go on. a rant but I think it is important for. my audience to to hear where I'm at I. was in Philadelphia and I I lived there.

and every morning I would drive I and I. talking literally like four times a week. to a cafe I put it in my ways and I go. to the cafe about 6 months in I realize. I don't know how to get to this Cafe. I've been going to this Cafe for been. driving to this Cafe for six months and. I don't know how to get there I am. relying on technology to do the thinking. for me I don't even know people don't. know basic geography anymore forget. mathematics geography anything and so. our our minds are actually getting much.

smaller which is why all of these things. seem so implausible because we don't. understand basic science absolutely I. mean look at your cell phone right it's. it I can't even explain how the cell. phone works almost nobody can to your. point you use ways and you just have it. drive you wherever you go and you. realize oh I've lost the ability to like. learn how to navigate now all of a. sudden as well I I believe that a lot of. people that follow me are going to love. what you said about the reset thing as. well because the type of technology that. we're seeing in these videos is. potentially not an invention it's a.

discovery and the beauty about. discoveries is that it doesn't require. some level advancement to comprehend the. concepts in general so a lot of people. think like even going back to like the. pyramids like how did they make these. these things and move these giant Stones. as well but when you start to dig into. the science that we're going to talk. about you realize like oh well even if. they weren't as advanced to have cell. phones like this they still could have. understand these underlying concepts of. the universe and maybe they were able to. produce these types of effects in very. low Tech kind of ways in general we told.

stupid things about that by the way I. mean the story that they're giving us. new history it was just slaves no no. explain that to me without a power Joe. no no no that actually I'm not. comprehending there were just more. slaves than you could have imagined how. many I'm like no explain to me how many. slaves and with not even so much as a. wheel I mean it really explained to me. how this was made and why this lined up. with Orion's Belt I mean really what. kind of slaves just more slaves than you. would ever know we are being told a very.

dumb version of History while at the. same time the military-industrial. complex is destroying history all around. the world I mean the most ancient cities. are being destroyed and and you when I. look now and I'm like Iraq and Syria and. Egypt and the amount of bombs that we. dropping and when you look into it what. what we are destroying I'm like these. this could hold the answer to so much so. what we're talking about is energy so I. want you to explain it as if you're. explaining it to a child because I do.

believe that we have a childlike. understanding of science like I do not. have a science brain so I want you to. explain what exactly you believe. happened yeah so first thing I want to. say is like Carl Sean had this quote. that said like we live in a society. based on Science and Technology where. nobody understands Science and. Technology that's a big problem and I. agree with you that they want to hide. they don't want people to be smart they. don't want people to look at the science. and physics they want us focus on all. the these social issues and political. things that in the grand scheme of. things don't mean much I think that the.

allegory of Plato's Cave really explains. everything as well right we're chained. up and we're looking at the shadows and. we're not seeing the real picture. outside we're just cavemen honestly is. is one of the things that I've concluded. as well is that we think we're so. Advanced we think that some people out. there think they've discovered. everything that we we figured it all out. when we really have it so before we jump. into that the one thing I want to ask. people are going to wonder like why are. they filming this plane and and why did. we do this to this plane and when you. look at the passengers on board there's.

something that sticks out majorly there. are 20 freescale semiconductor Engineers. on this plane 20 20 now I work at a. large company and we have a policy that. you can only have two or three people on. one plane because if the plane. disappears you lose a lot of people and. in this case these were all according to. the news very important people directly. from free scale themselves said these. are very important people the story was. they were going to China to upgrade the. plants you said free scale yeah. freescale semiconductors now this is. going to be important because eight of.

these people were Chinese Nationals 12. of them Malaysian Nationals they work. for the American company freescale. semiconductors free scale semiconductors. had just produced a microchip that was. like smaller than the dimple in a golf. ball people do not realize how powerful. semiconductors are when it comes to. Advanced Technology it's not really a. matter of scaling it up it's really a. matter of scaling it down and getting it. small and smaller and smaller and this. company I looked into some more first of.

all what I'll say is that we have like a. semiconductor trade war going on right. now with China and I don't think the. world even knows the Biden. Administration actually passed more. tariffs recently on. semiconductors and uh I don't know if. Trump has mentioned it but like we're. trying to be the leader in. semiconductors I looked and found a 2005. National Security Agency report that's. on it was called superconducting. commercial assessment essentially and. you read through it and it talks about. freescale semiconductors multiple times.

in their. microchips superconductivity is a very. important concept for people to. understand because it's a macroscopic. Quantum effect when we deal with Quantum. effects these are like magic basically. that we can't describe on the smallest. scales then when we talk about. macroscopic it means that like we can. actually see these types of effects. superconductivity in a circuit means. that the electrons are flowing freely. with no resistance what ever when. normally like your phone when you use it. it starts to heat up the reason why it's. heating up is the electrons are bouncing.

into atoms and that causes heat. generation that is lost due to entropy. Therefore your your phone runs out of. battery and stops working but in super. conductive situations you doesn't heat. up at all so presumably your battery. life would be much longer and this is. why we've had this lk99 situation like a. year ago where people are saying like we. can make a room temperature. superconductor. and we can see these Quantum effects at. the macroscopic scale in fact there's.

videos out there and I will share this. video with you because I want your. audience to see it where people in Korea. and China were were proving it to people. in the west where they have a literal. Rock which is this metam material of. lk99 that they produce and it doesn't. it's not one exact composition uh but. they've basically at the atomic level. created this meta material that is. floating freely over a magnet and not. just floating freely but it's flux pined. it's called the mzar effect and you can.

like hit it and it just kind of like. Wiggles but stays stuck in position. there and when you look at that it just. it seems like anti-gravity it seems like. magic nobody can debunk it at all like. if you they even take a loop ring and. they Loop it over the top of it and so. you can see there's no nothing it's not. hanging by a wire or anything like that. um and this there was actually some. disinformation that was passed around. this as well where what they do then is. they have a bunch of people try to. reproduce it and then if one person.

fails all of a sudden everybody on. social media says oh we failed to. replicate it it must mean whatever they. did was fake and it's one of those. situations again which it's like you're. not believing what you see with your. eyes it's kind of like me I use this. analogy saying if I say here's a recipe. for lasagna and here I'm going to make. this lasagna and you eat it you say oh. that's really great and then somebody. else goes and makes it and it's it's. crap they would say nope lasagna doesn't. exist I tried to make it and it doesn't. work out right like you didn't follow. the recipe correctly so we've got these. people that are highly Advanced.

semiconductors we've got this NSA. security report saying the United States. government needs to invest in this and. then by 2010 or 2012 we could have super. conductive microchips in fact these. super conductive microchips are most. likely used in advanced Ai and some of. these other supercomputers quantum. computers that we have out there as well. um and we've got this trade war going on. as well so you can start to see a. scenario where what if these people had. developed some advanced technology and. now they're going to China and China's.

got some leverage over them because. they're Chinese Nationals and what if. this. technology really allows the type of. stuff that we see with these orbs to be. possible I mean if that technology is. real let's say we have it we would not. want anybody else to have it certainly. not China or Russia so to me this is the. major motive for what you why you're. disappearing this like those people have. to be the the reason and then it's just. a question of was the fire started.

accidentally like did the batteries just. have a defect in them and then these you. got some VIPs on board and you're trying. to save them potentially most people. that follow me are like no way US. government would never do that but. you've got to keep the option out there. right or maybe yeah maybe they they have. the information's in their minds you. know what I. mean you have an asset it's an asset. yeah yes exactly and that's the reason. why you would also do this event to the. as opposed to just shoot a missile at it. or beam it with a directed energy weapon. or something like that um but then the.

other narrative is well you know what. the CIA does is they develop stories. right they love a they love a story that. they want to put down there so they got. an office at in Hollywood a pentagon has. and they don't they generally don't. directly interact too I find is that. they they set something up for somebody. else to find right they want to. indirectly influence the event so that. nothing will lead directly back to them. now in this situation I believe the most. likely scenario that the fire was. intentional that we that these lithium. ion batteries that the runaway thermal.

runaway have a predictable burn rate and. they knew if that fire started at that. location the plan's going to turn back. around and go to panang away from where. China South China Sea were in this war. with South China over the South China. Sea they want to get the plane away from. China maybe even get it away from their. satellites so their satellites can't see. the plane but if they okay so let me let. me slow that down because if our. operating Theory here is that they got. this lithium package 500 lbs of lithium.

about approximate onto this plane. quietly and they knew that this plane. was going from koala Lumar to Beijing. then why would they want the fire to. start and divert it back yeah to where. it began I think cuz you want to get it. to a specific point right the question. is like why teleport plane and why the. nicobar so why you why not just fly it. to n that's and a lot of the scenar one. of the conspiracy series out there is. that they just remote controlled the. plane to Diego Garcia I think the plane. got to Diego Garcia but the evidence.

seems to show that didn't just normally. fly there it got this teleportation type. event uh Wormhole event happened to it. and it got they wanted to start the. fire yeah now so that people would. plausibly believe that the plane had. crashed it could be it could just be a. matter of You're just showing off almost. too and that's the thing where it's like. I'm not in the mind of the the. government and so it's like we would. need them to say to corroborate what's. the because they already work for the.

United States So in theory they could. have just said we're flying the plane. here Garcia and I think the problem. there too is that well you can track it. and then there might be evidence that. says oh okay well here's how they flew. it there but if you have this plane and. it's on fire and now it goes to our. location where we've got our military. exercises going on and we've got our. Advanced Equipment right there and then. we disappear it right there even if they. saw. what are they going to say actually. China did see it China hacked the. Malaysian government the next day and.

they stole the crisis meeting minute. notes about the plane and classified. information about the plane why is there. even classified information about the. plane on March 9th 2014 and then on. March 13th 2014 5 days after this plane. disappeared satellite images get leaked. to the internet from China if you guys. go look at these satellite images and I. should give them to you to to take a. look at as well. it clearly looks like three objects. around something else and they're in a.

triangle formation just like we see in. that satell video I actually tried to. map up the clouds from the Chinese. satellite images to see like are these. exactly matches but it's from much. further away like it's lower resolution. so it's like they saw something it's. almost like they let that leak to the. internet as a message to be like we saw. what you did and I think I'm the only. person on the planet that actually. speculated this and then there was this. letter Ashton Forbes on YouTube you guys. can check it out yourself I promise you. I did not write this letter it's the. weirdest thing that's ever happened in.

me my whole life it's called Diego. Garcia whistleblower letter to Ashton. Forbes it came out in early January. several days after I was on Tim pool's. culture wars podcast and it's the. creepiest thing that's ever happened in. my life because even up until that point. I was trying to figure out like was this. fire accidental was it. deliberate and it presents this. Narrative of a story that uses like all. the evidence that I've used and pieces. that I had never even considered and.

provides times and things like for when. they receive the plane that you couldn't. know unless you were like on the inside. basically says just to summarize it's 11. minutes long that like what I've been. saying about the plane is true the. United States government set up this. narrative to happen to the plane they. knew these people were going to get on. this plane at at qual andur to fly to. Beijing months in advance they let it. happen because they wanted to send a. message to China who's your Daddy see. that that is what makes sense to me if.

you're saying that these Engineers. worked for the United States in some. capacity it would make sense to me that. China which is competing with the United. States was getting them to betray the. United States and the United States was. watching watching what they were doing. they then secretly get this cargo onto. this plane they're going to bring this. technology to Beijing their new master. and the CIA says not today and then gets. it and they want them they want them to. know that they brought this yeah to. what's China going to say they going to.

say oh well the United States teleported. the plane away the whole world's going. to what would what would our media do we. would go oh this is all the Hallmarks of. Chinese disinformation they would have. 51 intelligence people write a letter. saying this can't be possible or what. have you okay so let me debunk myself so. I'm with you on this narrative I I I. fully believe they transported the plane. I fully believe they're hiding. technology from us and that this was. something that was covert but if you are. China at that. moment you could cause an international. catastro catastrophe in terms of just.

releasing the evidence that the American. government is hiding technology unless. it's one of these. situations where Victory would be peric. where it's like then all of a sudden. they're like wait then you're hiding you. guys have all known this and we're we're. all kind of enslaving our people in some. capacity um but yeah I mean China could. have just released information about the. at the detriment to United States and. maybe they made that letter to me I. truly don't know now the more time that.

goes by I first I thought maybe this is. somebody pulling some kind of really. elaborate prank on me uh but they had. stuff in there like they tried to get me. to watch this Joe Rogan podcast with. Randall Carlson who I didn't even know. who he was at the time and it's all. about these geometric shapes and. plasmoids and I've now only after diing. in the science realized that that's. really what these orbs are is a. plasmasphere so whoever had sent me this. and they basically say like this power. is unlimited like people really have to.

understand that even the letter says if. two warning factions had access to this. power the Earth would not last one day. and we're not talking nuclear weapons. we're talking like poof we're not here. anymore type stuff and that this is so. frightening that this is why they keep. it secret the last part of the letter is. honestly gives me chills every time I. listen to it which basically says that. how do you defeat somebody that has has. unlimited power the ability to take a. Boeing 7 that's burning out of midair. that has complete control over the media.

and crafts the perception of events that. they want it says after a decade of. Lifetime in their service I think I know. the answer you talk about them and you. don't stop talking and every time I hear. that I'm just like wow cuz I don't know. who made that letter but there's a. couple weird grammatical errors that are. made that are usually consistent with. people in like Asian descent English is. your second language and I just keep. thinking like man I wonder if another. country's intelligence made that because.

at the time that came out I was kind of. on a low point where I was like do I. still want to be digging into this or. not and they were making fun of me in. the letter because I was talking about. remember the Miami Mall aliens situation. I was reporting on that it was like the. biggest tweet I ever made too like just. posting about that cuz I thought it was. interesting and they were like. admonishing me for that going like and. if you still want to keep talking about. Miami aliens you can do that but here's. something that's much better in terms of. this technology if you dig into it and. so really ever since then I've dedicated.

almost every single day to reading as. many scientific papers as I can to. understand quantum mechanics to. understand electrical engineering. because I think that there are only a. few ways that you can prove these videos. are real they're just they're so far out. there that even people that believe in. UFO stuff still are like okay I believe. aliens here but this is too much you. know so it's like how do we prove it. right I think one way is if you get the. government to admit it so that's never. going to happen yeah never but you still.

have to try right so I've called the FBI. I think three times over the last year I. got hung up on at least once maybe twice. the moment I start bringing up spy. satellites click I'm like okay fine. tried I reported it to the AO if you. don't know who they are the all doain. anomaly resolution office they're the. underneath the Pentagon and they. actually investigate like UFO stuff. and um they actually just got a new. director who actually came from the NSA. I've heard that the NSA was actually.

they're the ones basically in charge of. seeing anomalous stuff from our. surveillance apparatus as well um and I. gave them the case back in November they. finally got back to me in January I. spoke on the phone with uh a guy I he. asked me not to say his name but that I. could say anything else I wanted to. about it I explained the whole situation. to him he assured me that they would. have they'd be able to get the the. classifications to determine if the. videos are authentic uh I gave them the. name of the person who I think leaked. the videos which we can talk about in a.

second and um on April 11th we had a. couple emails back and forth April 11th. they responded back to me it was. basically like Mr Forbes sorry for the. delay our investig initial investigation. has shown that we found something. related to the US search effort after. the plane was lost from radar it would. be helpful to know the authentic or like. the uh when the video was first. published on the Regis sideen on YouTube. account and a follow-up call might be. helpful never got a response back to him.

ever again after that and at that point. I was digging into the science and. realizing like oh my God the science. checks out and so I started I sent a few. followup emails like hey guys like you. think we could just admit to this cuz. I've got all this evidence this science. they've ghosted me ever since then it's. now you know September where what five. months later they just didn't respond to. me anymore I truly think that I red. pilled this person that possibly didn't. believe any of the stuff was possible. and then they found out it was and. basically higher ups call and say stop.

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keeping technology I mean we're talking. since the 60s you have people like Bill. Cooper William Cooper who kind of. notoriously was one of the first people. who really put himself out uh then kind. of got killed because they were trying. to arrest him for taxes who knows but. who similarly started his book what was. that called the Behold a Pale Horse and. said yeah I was in the military fact. check true and there were UFOs and they. were able to do things that that don't. make sense like you know that that. defies physics in a way that we. understand it today I was told to keep.

quiet and these are the things that you. need to know as a nation because and. there was this sort of dark. understanding like you guys have a very. limited amount of time to wake up to. this or it's it's going to be evil and. yet people don't believe it and I think. part of it is because it threatens. everything when you realize one thing. and like I said you do go through this. period of cognitive dissonance when I. really fell down the rabbit hole on. vaccines and realize all that was a lie. then you start to realize okay they. created an entire Matrix on the basis of.

a lie that people are believing it's. like a it's like a religion it's a faith. you know we we don't we don't believe we. don't even believe our own bodies our. own eyes our own reactions I mean it's. incredible all it takes is an expert to. come and tell you and say that's not. real poo poo and we just go okay I trust. the expert and so you were telling me by. the way that yeah you were supposed to. do Joe Rogan's podcast what happened. with that yeah that was wild I woke up. one morning and uh I I look at my DMs. and Twitter and there's Joe Rogan's name.

and I mean for me like I I'm just a. normal guy that's now been escalated. this extraordinary situation and I was. blown away by he like hey I I saw your. thing about the plane I want to talk to. you about that and ended up getting like. a date set up and everything with his. booking agent and then all of a sudden I. get this message back say like oh. there's been a Something's Happened and. I'm kind of like hm right like this is. interesting and then Joe Rogan DMs me. he's like well I saw this stuff on. Reddit and I think this might be. debunked or might be like some kind of. hoax or something like that and I didn't.

want to push too hard cuz like I know. how hard it is for to believe some of. this stuff um but I did kind of give. back my counter evidence like you know. sure you can believe that if you want. but like here's the the counterarguments. for it he also sent me a podcast uh. where I feel like I was kind of set up. on that wasn't very fair that has a very. uh kind of disingenuous title to it. related to like so so and so gets. exposed or whatever which certainly. never happened know how many videos. there are of canens gets Expos I mean. it's incredible that's part of the.

reason why I like talking to you cuz. like I think you know how plays yeah. absolutely it's a nasty game and you. were like new to it so that was very new. so you know I got I kind of you know I. was very naive too at that point this. has been a learning process for me in. general um so I said okay you know what. no problem Joe Rogan and actually the. last message I sent to Joe Rogan um was. that you know I appreciate it and if you. change your mind at any point like reach. out to me because I really believe that. as time goes on the science will be. Vindicated therefore the videos will be.

Vindicated we're never going to find the. plane so it it only gets more and more. momentum you know which is part of the. reason why I'm talking to you right now. uh and then Kurt mezer was the one who. who took my spot on on the show I. remember it was March 25th was the date. that I was supposed to go so I watched. it with some intent and actually they. talked about the videos um they didn't. mention me by name but they talked about. me Kurt meter called me the that. autistic guy which I don't take too much. offense to it Kurt mat is a comedian. he's a smart right yeah these day and. age I feel like it does um but Joe Rogan.

let something slip he said I talked to. my buddy Jeremy Corbell who's this UFO. disclosure guy he's friends with George. knap who's a a um a journalist who these. guys brought kind of Bob Lazar to the. Limelight and it's an interesting. parallel there because Bob Lazar I think. it was the late ' 80s or early '90s said. he worked at this place called S4 which. is Area 51 he put Area 51 on the map and. he said he saw these craft and what have. you and Bob Lazar has been on Joe Rogan.

so this is how Joe Rogan knows about. Jeremy Corbell and Jeremy and um or uh. sorry uh Jeremy Corbell and uh George. knap well I've got sources and and. people too who tell me information and. what I heard about that situation is it. wasn't Jeremy Corbell that told Joe. Rogan but that it was actually George. knp that told him that the videos were. fake and not to talk to me which I think. is really hypocritical because these. guys I've seen the videos that they've.

pushed out over the years nothing they'. pushed out is even remotely as. compelling as the MH370 videos there's. not a real life event there's not two. videos from military from two different. angles and thermal and stuff like that. and it seemed a little bit weird to me. especially because I watched some of. these guys content and it's always about. aliens aliens aliens and I have nothing. against aliens whatever people want to. believe they're real or what have you I. would say that if you are interested in. the concept of non-human intelligence.

you should look at the chart of all the. options CU there's like 50 different. options out there and the thing is like. I think those guys are telling the truth. as they see it Jeremy Corbell uh George. knap and I know they know L alzando. who's making the tour right now because. of his book they never talk about United. States surveillance capabilities they. never talk about what the technology. would mean from a weaponization. perspective and that just rubs me the. wrong way because it feels like they're.

being controlled about Li Hangouts I. think is the term that they use where. like they intentionally give you some. information to kind of make you think. that you're getting to information but. actually like it's not it's kind of. controlling what information you're. getting to so and and there there is a. lot of that I mean the CIA definitely. does engage in that and they do have. people that go out there and you're like. oh this guy's blowing the lid on this. but really he's got a very controlled. amount of information that they're. allowed to present I'm not familiar with. those people because I I didn't really. get too involved in the UFO Community I.

I tend to believe that if the media is. ever telling it to you it is with the. full authority of the CIA and there's a. reason why they're suddenly showing you. all of this stuff um and they admit real. quick too that like I've I've listened. to pretty much everything these guys say. because I I hone in I want to figure out. like what's these guys agenda what's the. agenda in general I've come to the. conclusion and by the way you're not. missing anything not being part of the. UFO Community it's not my cup of tea to. be honest with you um they have in my. opinion some type of slow drip process. that's going out there I've heard Jeremy.

Corell say directly that he does not. think it can be our technology that he. was told from the Nimitz incident that. Commander fraver was told by the CIA. that the Tic Tac is locked Martin. technology private military defense. contract and I went whoa but he's like. no it's not possible it has to be aliens. essentially and that Jeremy Corbell has. said a multiple times that there's stuff. they can't say because it would impact. National Security and I go wait aren't. you an independent journalist why is.

what would there what could there be. certainly aliens is not impacting. National Security and I've also heard um. you know uh Lu Alando say this as well. so these are the things where I get a. little bit worried because a lot of what. these guys share is not verifiable and. the videos especially the Jeremy Corbell. and George knp show where are they. getting these videos some of these are. military videos I don't see people going. to prison. for videos right so usually if you are. giving a truth that you're not you. should be treated like crap from the. media you should either be arrested you.

got to be like Chelsea Manning Edward. Snowden like when you're giving. information that the government does not. allow for you to give you're going to. get smeared you're going to get libeled. and you couldn't possibly get in prison. and if that's not if you're not facing. any of that then that means in my view. and again I don't know these people. because I don't follow this community. that means you've got the full Authority. and blessing of the United States. government yeah and when you then you. look at the videos too that they share. and it's usually not stuff that's very. anomalous like it's just some lights in. the sky or something that's a triangle. shaped or they had this jellyfish UFO.

that was just floating around and I go. okay well I mean that's neat but what am. I really seeing here as opposed to when. you look at these MH370 videos you're. like okay I'm seeing anti-gravity type. technology going on here these are balls. of plasma where's the energy coming from. and did they just Wormhole a plane away. you know like this is the stuff where a. lot of these guys are even talking about. it you when Lou alzando was on with Joe. Rogan just recently he even mentioned. like the concepts or at least his book. mentions the concepts of a warp drive.

and the other part that really freaks me. out about these guys is that they never. bring me up and never talk about me I've. reached out to some of them they've. never replied and yet they're saying a. lot of the same stuff Lando's book talks. about a video that he saw a 23-minute. video and the UFO Community is very. familiar with this 23-minute video. situation it's been kind of a this. Mystique that been been wondering about. it for many months he wrote about it. book and what he said was that it was a. video of a predator drone with three. orbs in a perfect triangle formation.

like playing with it that were seem to. be autonomous that had structure to them. and I just listen read that and went. that is like very similar to the Drone. video that we were just watching in this. interview if if you're promoting that. why would you not want to talk to. somebody like me especially if you claim. to be for disclosure but then you can. kind of see the reason right is that. National Security. this technology is a weapon this is and. like you were saying about China Russia. going back to the like why would you do.

this is like you can imagine all these. countries are trying to figure out how. to weaponize this technology and while. it seems like it's magic I would argue. that what we see with the orbs is like. the first iteration of it if there are. some alien species out there that we. figured this out from or whatever. they're like way up here right and and. the orbs are like the first iteration of. that so you can imagine there would be. like this almost like cold war race for. this technology to figure out who can. advance it first or like World War II.

with the atomic bomb trying to figure. out because whoever has the most. advanced version of this has complete. control over the planet and this would. explain why these guys are talking about. well it's a national security thing I. can't say that why they don't talk about. the surveillance apparatus why they. never talk about the weaponization of it. and the capabilities of it so I took a. different approach and I said well we. can prove it if the government admits it. never going to happen we can prove it if. the leaker of the videos comes forward.

and we can prove it if we can explain. the science because I'm like I I'll take. anything I can here you know and so I. started looking into the science as much. as I could I started I decided I was. going to learn quantum mechanics learn. electrical. engineering and you know it's only been. probably 9 months or so for me but I've. learned enough to have this conversation. with you and not feel super for. uncomfortable that I you know uh that. I'm not doing it justice in general. great job and you're also communicating. in a way that the masses can understand.

it yeah and I think they're going to. appreciate the science part we'll talk. about here in a second as well um and. people are going to say well how does. this guy figure all this science out in. only nine months you know it can't be. possible I remember some podcasts saying. people spend 10 years and then it's like. this idea that you have to have this. certain amount of time to be an expert I. went to Medical pool how could you. possibly understand vaccines after. telling me you studied it for a year you. know exactly but the point though is. that if those videos are real then. that's like being the teacher who has. the answers to the test so you've got to. leg up right away cuz now you're just.

trying to figure out how do I show the. work how do I explain this which is was. what makes it really easy for me to kind. of figure out like when I read. scientific papers Concepts and stuff. like which ones have Merit versus which. ones don't and I ended up finding more. it was actually blew my mind how all the. science that explains those videos is. all out there and it's been out there. for decades like we're talking since the. 80s but they also part of what's. happening right now in creating these. kids that effectively all have ADHD.

because they're on Tik Tok is they don't. they can't even focus or to watch a. three-minute video Get Alone to read a. science paper and try to comprehend it. like where where're even you see the. attention span is just getting shorter. and shorter and shorter and that is also. a part of what the public school system. I believe is intentionally doing it's. like they're not even going to be able. to read I mean 70 70% of black students. in California can't pass the basic. reading exam you have the literacy rate. right now in America is stunning and so. like I say we have this very short. window where we're going to be able to. find have people who don't work and are.

not controlled by the government to get. obsessed about these topics. independently to bring this Forefront to. the public people really understand. what's happening and fortunately you. like the way I got about vaccines you. got about this and and so we need people. like this who are like for nine months. and here's what I'm learning and here's. what I'm finding and so you're seeing in. the same way that I saw there's tons of. scientific literature that pointed in. the direction that vaccines were always. a farce you're saying that you were able. to find the scientific literature that. pointed to this conclusion but of course.

who's going to go look it up on a. Tuesday afternoon so what did you. discover in that yeah well actually. right before that I want to make sure I. talk about the leaker because that's. really important the second way that the. videos can be proven to be true there. was a day or several weeks in October. because you know when we first talked on. this on this interview we're talking. about the videos the timeline of the. videos the how the videos were recorded. Etc and I was like well wow I have this. like Pro psychological profile for a. person who potentially would have leaked.

this video I was calling them agent 370. and I thought huh I wonder if I can. Agent 370 CU there's somebody who leaked. this stuff right went against the. government and I thought I wonder if. this person was charged because they had. to have been caught because if this is a. citric session there's logs for that. there was a screen recording it wasn't. somebody with a camera like filming it. like this and so I started digging. around for people that were charged with. Espionage or will for retention of. classified data or dissemination of. classified data it took me like two. weeks and then one night I still.

remember vividly it was just like wow I. found him I started digging through. these Wikipedia sites that have. everybody who's ever been charging it's. not as many people as you would think. and then I find Edward C Lynn Lieutenant. Commander he checked every box right. away I started getting chills because. the first thing I started reading is. that he has experience with signals. intelligence Sig that's how all these. uh like uh systems all connect to one. another the satellites to the spy planes. to the ground based systems and all this. stuff and I'm going oh that's.

interesting well let's read more about. him turns out he gets assigned to this. spy plane Squadron the vpu2 Wizards in. February of 2014 right before the plane. disappears I find a statement by his. lawyer saying that the investigation. into him began April 2nd 2014 which is. few weeks after the plane disappeared. and I'm already like okay well wow. you've already checked a lot of the. boxes I'm I'm imagining a scenario where. he's literally in one of the spy planes. that night like tracking the plane or.

something like that in fact just quick. side anecdote on the Netflix documentary. the French father who lost his wife and. children was told by some intelligence. source that the Americans know exactly. what happened to the plane and there. were two awaks in the area spy planes so. we've got this Lieutenant Commander I. look him up he had been like a was a. some kind of liaison to a congressional. person as well like he was a natural. naturalized Taiwanese American he has. potential connections where he might. have been using him as a spy he had some. kind of pre-existing relationship with. the FBI and.

NCIS and the biggest things that I think. were um interesting to me is that we. were trying to get him on. Espionage which would have put him in. life for put him in prison for life. essentially first time in like 50 years. since the cold war that an active duty. member was being charged with this we. ended up having to admit there was no. evidence of him exchanging any. information with anyone from China at. all which is a weird thing like you're. charging someone with ESP you'd think. you'd have evidence of it and his lawyer. also said that the classified. information in question was available on.

the internet I went okay what what could. we be trying to get him in life for for. classifi information is available on the. internet you know they we're going to. put him in prison for life life and they. also caught him with flight manifests. that include search and rescue code. names as well and I'm just looking at. that going wow so it turns out they. force him into a plea deal um and he. ends up like issuing this statement. about what he did was wrong um they. mistreated him they made sure they held. him in prison uh pre-trial detainment.

and that he couldn't talk to the media. or anything like that the government was. actually afraid of the case going to. trial because they were afraid they. would have to show what the classified. information was that he leaked and I'm. just going how can it not be these. videos like everything checks out his. plead deal he the SB charges got dropped. he just had basically two charges of. will for attention of classified. information and by the the way they. stuck on a prostitution charge on this. guy's they're trying to put him in life. of prison they're sticking on a. prostitution charge on there cuz they're. trying to you know muddy the waters and.

and damage his reputation his family. even set up a website saying like what's. happening to him is not fair blah blah. blah such a such an interesting case and. I recommend people check it out you can. only find the Articles if you change. your search search range from like 2014. to 2016 and then there's nothing about. this guy after that at so the plea deal. was 9 years in prison this is so. disproportionate to just dissemination. of classified information if you look up.

similar cases even in his appeal he. argued that this was way too much time. compared to other people usually for. stuff like this people get like a few. months slap on the wrist or what have. you there's even cases where I found. recently where people are actually. convicted of actual Espionage where they. exchanged money with information from. China and they got like two years in. prison so you're like something is wrong. here they also had have military members. testify in court as to why what he did. was so damaging so you can begin to see. a scenario where this guy saw these.

videos maybe he didn't even know what. was going on in those videos maybe he. just thought it was aliens or UFOs he. leaked them to the internet or he leaked. them to one of his counterparts and his. friends in Taiwan because he had a lot. of connections and then they leaked them. on the Internet maybe he didn't even. know they were leaked on the internet. and then his whole world comes crumbling. down where the government's coming after. him because they're going you just told. China and Russia and all our adversaries. all our secrets about our super secret. technology that no one can know about. like you know more secret than Atomic.

weapons um and he ends up getting three. years shaved off because he you know did. this plea deal with NC FBI and basically. said okay yes what I did was super wrong. nobody should do this I foiled his case. to FBI and ncfs FBI gave me some weird. like it's private information we can't. give you anything the NCIS gave me an. Obama a exemption which I'm very. familiar with now because almost all. foas that I put in have gotten this. exemption to be kept secret in the. interest of National Defense or foreign.

policy and Obama actually loosened foyer. requests up in 2009 to make them easier. to get access to so now there's only a. very specific number of exemptions that. they can use and they used one of those. exemptions to not give me anything about. his case what about his family uh is he. still in prison so he got out probably. based on the time frame like. 2021 what have you I've actually thought. about going to just knock on his door I. tried calling him like we found where he. lived and his contact information it's.

kind of scary easy to stock people on. the internet these days and the phone. number that I called somebody picked up. and hung up right away I've only ever. called one time still being watched yeah. because if you signed a plea deal and. these videos are what you leaked you. can't say anything if you say something. you're going back to prison right right. so this is why well once youve served. your time youve served your time they. can't charge you twice for the same. thing but if you did a plea deal though. the ple part of the plea deal might say. you can never talk about this otherwise. we can put you back in prison again. right so this is why people ask why get.

First Amendment trouble with that though. yeah yeah and that's why like so what I. did was I reached out to his lawyers and. wow I love how obsessed you are this is. amazing oh I'm like a dog with a bone. once I've got on there like I'm not. letting get away like no way right and. so it's like this is why I want people. to understand like Ashton why are you. why won't you just let this go whereever. cuz like I want answers and nobody give. them to me and I why would you want. someone to let this go I mean imagine. you're on this plane you're like a. passenger and disappears and the world. just moves on after a couple of weeks I.

mean of course we need to understand. what our government is capable of. because we're being enslaved by the. government abolutely so you reach out to. his lawyer yeah so I I talked to a clerk. talked to her for like an hour I break. down like hey this is the guy that did. this and I you know you should have him. go to the media make a statement because. he needs to come out as like a. whistleblower like a real whistleblower. not you know oh I'm going to tell you. some stories that are approved by the. government but like I saw the craziest. thing ever I leak these videos they're. real blah blah blah and then I get a.

call back on a Sunday from another Clerk. and she wants to talk to me some more I. end up talking to her for like an hour. and a half I'm pretty sure I red pilled. both these people because they're like I. want to follow you on Twitter and all. this stuff uh and I never got a response. back from the lawyer but I started all. of a sudden I was on their mailing list. and I still remember the first thing I. got from them was this thing about this. UAP disclosure bill and the protection. that it might give whistleblowers and it. was this seminar that they had held but. it was like retroactive like it had. happened like a week before and they. sent it to me and I'm like this is weird.

I've only gotten a couple emails from. them ever and that was one of them so I. didn't really press the issue but I do. leave that in my back pocket as. something where like you know I know. they probably if this is all real the. intelligence communties are watching. this interview right now I'm just going. to go ahead and say like at any point I. want I can go find Edward cin knock on. his door and be like hey man did you. leak those videos right he can lie or he. can tell the truth if he really did. though this guy is a real hero like this.

is the kind of thing where you're. showing the. world a I would argue it's a crime that. what we did with that plane potentially. but not just that like it's clearly it. was a clearly it was a crime there are. passengers on that plane well kind of. hard though it's like it's like mass. murder to in order to preserve or or to. interrupt some technology and send a. message to China plausibly I mean that's. one narrative that but let's be honest. like nobody's going to face any there's. no way anyone faces any consequences for. this AB like Obama knows what happened. to this plane 100% And the reason why I.

know that is because I I've also been. listening to a lot of what these CIA. agent like not quite whistleblowers but. people that I think are being. forthcoming with information talk about. and he might not have uh ran the. operation but after the event like the. Director of National Intelligence would. have written up like a briefing about it. that would have gone to the president. and then the president pres is the one. that issues the policy like how are we. going to respond to this and he actually. went to Malaysia a month later Barack. Obama did it was the first time a.

president has gone in Malaysia in like. 50 years and end up talking with NI who. was the Prime Minister at that time I. don't know if a lot of people realize. this but niib is like one of the biggest. criminals on the face of the Earth he. got caught in the one MDB uh major. kleptocracy Scandal biggest one ever. $700 million of money was in a bank. account in his name he's the one that. said the plane winning the South Indian. Ocean there's a picture of Barack Obama. shaking his hand. the prime prime minister before and. after him mahater he was actually prime. minister when I was living in Singapore. beloved by Malaysian people he says that.

the CIA knows what happened to the plane. course and I'm just going okay guys like. how much more evidence do we need that. there's something sketchy going on here. so you know Edward C Linn is the the. second way that these videos can just be. proven authentic if he ever comes out at. any point in the future everybody needs. to Rally around this guy more than any. of these other wh blowers in this UFO. Community because he's showing us. technology that will change our entire. planet you know just like that and then. the Third Way Again is the science which.

is my favorite part but also again the. part where I want people to be generous. with me here like I'm only nine months. into this but I'm going to list off a. bunch of people scientists and Concepts. here that we're going to talk about. people say I don't really think I have. any special powers or anything like this. but people say like you have a very. strong intuition and the way that I. explain the science to people I like to. explain in a way where anyone can. understand it because to your point. they've kind of they kind of want people. thinking like no you you're you're like.

a lowly commenter you can't understand. this science but that's not true like. anybody can really understand it and. once you have a good concept of how it. operates and how we've been misled with. physics in general it starts to become. apparent you know how easy it was for. them to lie to us about this stuff and. you start to see the brainwashing that's. been stuck in there and like you know so. I would make some pretty bold claims. which I would say that all the textbooks. in the United States are wrong they're. lying intentionally they're misleading. us and and they want you to think a.

certain thing it is kind of like Co. where uh they they implant this message. into you and you just repeat the message. like brainwashing and that's one of the. things I hear a lot related to the. physics that I'm about to present as. well history physics everything is is. intentionally it's meant to especially. history too not to go on a tangent but. you know I'm one of those people too. that I usually think that there's three. sides of every story your side my side. and the truth or what have you right. it's always somewhere in the middle out. there and people always look back at. history even scientists other historical.

events and you know you bring up little. I don't think it really happened exactly. that way and then everybody jumps down. your throat because the authority told. me that that's how it must have happened. and if there's anything that people take. out of this these videos end up being. proven real I want people to realize how. easy it is for them to brainwash us so. that we never let it happen again in the. future future they're doing it to us all. the time it's not just Malaysian. Airlines flight. 370 I personally believe whatever your. political opinions are that they did it. to us with covid as well and they've.

done it to us with many other events. there always Mass psychosis events and. that and they've been doing this and it. really picked up in the 60s where they. realized that they could make everybody. pay attention to something and then. modify human behavior based off of an. event and how people would react to that. event and that's why you guys who watch. this know that I say you must read chaos. and learn about MK Ultra and the Charles. Manson thing that didn't really maybe. happen at all and it was just a federal. event to modify our Behavior against to. end the hippie generation because they.

wanted to go to war and once you. comprehend and just like that who was. the guy who wrote that book a reporter. That was supposed to write 5,000 pages. that became so obsessed with this case. when he realized that he was being lied. to went through foia requests 25 years. later went flat broke trying to get to. the bottom of what happened with the. Manson Murders and in the process he. gave us. uh just a to of evidence that shows us. that our government has been. intentionally manipulating us and lying. to us about the big stuff because our.

brain goes there's no way that this. could be a lie because you realize how. big a lie would have to be yeah they've. realized that we don't we our brains go. no no no no there's just no way because. they could never lie this big and it's. actually easier to tell a big lie than. it is to tell a small lie absolutely and. so this is one of these things I'm just. I'm so grateful that you're obsessed. with because we we I'm at the point. where I want to pull my kids out of. school because I realize the purpose is. to make them dumber and slower and. convince that they're smart and what I. why I do want you to get to is this is.

um let's get to the dark stuff as in. what are the implications here like if. you are correct and I think you are just. by the way that you're being treated. that always tells me the first thing. like if as soon as they're going to. dismiss this person I'm like okay that's. the one I want to listen to and I can. see how obsessed you are I also see that. you're very smart and how dedic you are. into learning this what are the. implications here regarding energy yeah. and just real quick the Foya thing that.

you said as well I learned a lot about. foas they reject foyes for anything they. want I Foy the airplane regarding to the. to NSA gave me the same uh Obama air. exemption to be kept secret in the. interest of National Defense under uh. this subsection that includes covert. operations so I also foed a fire. suppression bottle that showed up in the. Maldives that had to have been empty. because it floated and it looks exactly. like a fire suppression bottle from a. Boeing 7 and I didn't even mention MH370. on that FL request he said NSA give me.

whatever you got on a random fire. suppression botle also rejected for the. exact same exemption as well which to me. it's like guys how much how many. rejections do you have to get till you. realize there's something going on here. and what are the major what is what does. this all lead to there was a day where I. realized this is all about free energy. and I went wow if you connect and follow. the dots with the science if you ask. yourself where is the energy from these. self-sustaining coherent orbs coming.

from you realize that all of it comes. back to Tesla goes back to JP Morgan. these Concepts from like a hundred years. ago where space is not empty space is. has energy to give in fact it has a huge. amount of energy to give and that's what. quantum mechanics tells us and this is. one of the big lies that we learn in. schools that sure quantum mechanics. exists and it shows there's this energy. that's out there but we can't it's not. enough to get anything out of it's. called the vacuum catastrophe is that.

classical view of SpaceTime says well. there's only this tiny amount so we've. got this stuff going on but we can't. access it but quantum mechanics says no. it's like 100 orders of magnitude more. energy than what you think it is. essentially infinite unlimited energy. we're talking the Drax SE of energy. we're talking The Ether and The Ether I. remember Terrence Howard went on Joe. Rogan he got every single physicist. jumping down his throw for what he was.

saying one thing he was absolutely. correct about was The luminiferous Ether. there is an ether that's out there in. fact JRA I believe have quoted as saying. that the only way that this makes sense. with quantum mechanics is that there. must be a medium for an electromagnetic. wave to Traverse through and people will. say well Ash the Michaelson Morley. experiment in 1885 said that there's no. ether that's not actually what it said. they use an interferometer and so.

interferometer is like basically taking. a mirror and you bounce your your laser. beams and have it split and you're. looking for a shift in your interference. pattern and they didn't see any shift in. the interference pattern so they said. either there must not be an ether or The. Ether must be flowing with the Earth. itself well there's this guy named. Martin grudnik 2009 he redid the. experiment and he had it on a spinning. uh table and so if you horizontally spin. it you see this interference pattern. which is just some lines basically and.

it doesn't move you say okay well that's. what Michaelson Morley said but then he. flips it on its side vertically and has. it spin vertically and what happens the. interference pattern starts to shift and. the midpoint where it hits that kind of. equilibrium point is perfectly parallel. to the plane of the earth now what does. this mean there's another scientist. whose last name is ishmail who reported. the paper in I think it's like the is O. uh physics study review that says that.

there is an ether it's just a vertical. force not a horizontal force that we. feel that's going on and says that this. can unify gravity and the blue shift. that we see with respect to this so I. would argue that Martin grudnik proved. that experimentally that there is to as. far as I know no one has been able to. explain the fact that he just flipped. the Michaels and moral experiment on its. side and saw it differently there were. other people as well that had argued. that they they could prove The Ether one.

of them actually went on top of a. mountain and ran the experiment there. compared to sea level and why is this. similar because this is basically the. equivalent of if you see a difference. between a sea level and versus in the in. on a mountain the same thing is flipping. the experiment on its side right because. the difference is your altitude here or. your height away from the ground and. then you can start to see that there. must be a connection there to gravity. because the further you go the less. gravity you feel right and so now you. start to see that maybe there is a. unification Theory where we have this. ether that's out there has unlimited.

energy that is what we need for an. electromagnetic wave to Traverse because. all waves require a. medium and that the reason why we don't. perceive this ether is because it's at. the plank scale the smallest possible. scales that are out there much much many. orders of magn smaller than even. R and this has actually already been. phys physically figured out for almost a. hundred years so when I started digging.

into the science and finding these. papers and watching these Engineers who. I now rever I just started going holy. crap this has been out there for that. long Kusa in. 1919 proposed an electromagnetic gravity. unification Theory and there were some. issues with it so Klein came in and they. fixed it up so in 2026 it was approved. out there and what they did was they. unified these theories through an extra. Dimension sakarov who is a Russian.

physicist 1967 1968 he helped develop. atomic bombs and and hydrogen bombs for. the Russians theorized that Zero Point. Energy Zero Point Energy is basically. what the ether is made up of could. explain. gravity Harold POF how Poff he's well. known in the UFO community they've tried. to discredit him if you read his. Wikipedia page it's disgusting what they. try to do to this guy 1989 he comes out. and takes sakurovs Theory and says this.

is correct I can show mathematically. that it can that Zero Point Energy can. explain gravity and that it we can. explain why there's no negative mass and. it can all be unified correctly with. math all lining up. exactly um the key takeaways from his. paper which everybody needs to read. gravity is a Zer Point fluctuation force. is that gravity is not a fundamental. Force it's actually a induced effect.

from this Z point energy field that. we're always in all the time and he says. that we can Shield electromagnetic waves. in a faraday cage like if you remember. uh uh Enemy of the State Jee Hackman's. in this cage where he's blocking the. electromagnetic waves so the spy. agencies can't find him that's a faraday. cage but you can't Shield gravity and. the reason why you can't Shield gravity. is because it's happening at that plank. scale the Zero Point Energy scale that's. out there and so this paper really takes.

the concepts and mathematically shows. that it's legit and this was 1989 going. out there and if you read how put off. scientific papers I I kind of went down. this Rabbid hole reading the stuff and. when I got to halut off it was kind of. the same I call it yatsi moment that I. had with Edward C Linn you read his. papers after that and it's like I would. bet you any amount of money this guy has. seen some floaty orbs right because next.

paper he's working with other people. talking about Well 0o Point Energy also. explains inertia which essentially is. like what resistance we feel when we. walk around and even if we were in outer. space we would still feel that. resistance because we're constantly. walking through the Z point energy field. so another good way to think about is. like when I hold this cup the reason why. my hand doesn't go directly through the. cup is because the electromagnetic force. of the electrons when I hit it is. repelling my fingers here and it's all.

made up of Fon so fion have to have. different points in space and time as. opposed to a boson where it can collapse. down onto a single point like a laser. for example so if we now realize that. the Z point energy field can explain. gravity and it can also explain. inertia then and we know that we can't. Shield the gravity well what happens if. we Shield the 0 point energy field. itself if we take that 0 point energy. field and we make a bubble around it you.

start to realize well there would be no. inertia then anymore because inertia is. the Z point energy field and what if we. remove the0 Point Energy that's in front. of or the 0 point energy that's in front. of me well I'm going to have a pressure. where I fall into that field where I. where I make that that uh that space. basically in front of me that has no Zer. Point Energy. and for people that think like I I used. to think like well 0. energ is this. sci-fi concept or what have you but it's. actually experimentally proven uh the.

number one thing that I see referenced. in all of halud off's papers is the. Casmir effect and what they did what. Hendrick Casmir did in 1948 and again. these dates are important because you're. like this is a long time ago he just. took two conductive plates and he put. them very close together to one another. and what happened they stuck together. if space is empty why would that happen. right if there's nothing there that. shouldn't happen the reason why that. happens is because certain wavelengths. of the Zero Point Energy can't fit.

between the area between the plates and. so it creates a negative pressure. differential there's less pressure. between the plates then on the outside. and that's what causes them to stick. together and so this is the part where. people looked at that and they go huh is. that negative energy is is is maybe. we're looking at the issue of negative. energy wrong maybe it's not this exotic. purple substance or whatever that's out. there maybe it's just the absence of the. 0 point energy out there what I would.

want people to think of is. This classical view of physics would say. you're in an ocean that has no water in. it you're at the the bottom of the bed. down here there's nothing there to give. the quantum mechanics ination say the. the lake or the ocean is completely full. and we are at the surface of it in the. equilibrium of that energy and when you. look at it like this you go okay well I. can add energy to it and I'm going to. experience what we think of as gravity. like that the Earth is feeling on us now. but you could also suck away some of.

that energy and if I pull that away. that's negative energy at the end of the. day it's all just normal energy it's. just a matter of from the equilibrium. level if you're above the equilibrium or. you're below the equilibrium and so this. is also What dra proposed uh and T Henry. Mo wrote a book called The Sea of energy. but dra proposed this idea of a dra hole. which is this idea that you can maybe. all energy comes from this zero point. field and you can pull that energy out.

pull that energy out and now it becomes. real energy that we can interact with on. a daily basis so this is what's so. revolutionary because when you think. about this this is how I realized oh. free energy is not possible because. there's something there to give and. they've done experiments like the D. damic km mirror effect which would say. they take these rotating mirrors and. they have them spin around very very. rapidly and even conventional physics.

will say that these virtual particles. are popping into existence all the time. what the dynamic kmir effect does is. essentially capture them is that in that. Split Second where they're you know into. existence they bounce off the mirrors. and they become real photons real. electromagnetic energy that gets just. pulled directly out of The Ether. a lot of the physicists that are. watching this right now or people who. are skeptical are going to. say well I was taught that there was. nothing there to give and I was taught.

that this shouldn't be possible due to. the laws of thermodynamics they're going. to say you can't get free energy because. energy is not created or destroyed. according to the first law. thermodynamics and we know that that's. not a problem because we just take a. perspect or change our perspective. saying there's nothing there to give to. now there's this huge sea of energy. that's out there and even classical. physics will say that we have these. virtual particles and that we don't know.

what dark energy or dark matter is but. we need dark energy to explain how the. universe could to expand the way it is. and physicists have historically said. that dark uh energy must be negative. based on the equations so now you're. starting to see that okay this sea of. energy is negative energy this can. explain dark energy and there's also. this idea that came I believe it came. from John archall Wheeler that the. quantum foam and the quantum foam is. that sea of energy that's out there the. way to think of it conceptually with.

respect to Z point energy is Imagine. That space is not empty but instead tiny. bubbles that are there and they're all. touching each other all the time and. we're moving through them like we are. just fish in the fish tank out there and. once you look at it from that. perspective it becomes a lot more. obvious the second law of thermodynamics. it's a little bit more vague but it's. basically saying that no system can be. perfectly efficient no closed system. because you're always going to lose a.

little bit of energy due to heat. entropy well in this type of situation. all we have to do is take Pac-Man's. mouth and open up our system the analogy. I love to use is that of a windmill if. you just put a windmill somewhere like. in this house it's not going to do. anything right that system itself isn't. going to produce any energy but if you. open that system up to wind and you. insert that wind into your system now. you can produce as much energy as you. can with wind as much wind that can be. produced this is the same concept as.

open your system up to The Ether to the. Drax SE of energy that's out there now. you have this capability we have an. unlimited reservoir of energy out there. some people say it's like 10 to the 100. power 100 zeros after time of energy. that we can extract so it's like taking. a thimble and trying to empty the ocean. full of the energy it would never happen. and the moment you pull little energy. out of there it kind of self equalizes. right away like you know the water kind.

of collapses onto that location and. fills that location back up right away. uh so we can get around both the first. and second laws of thermodynamics just. by doing that. and the other concept that I want to. throw at you real quick and I want to. hear your thoughts are where does energy. even come from like if the energy is. coming from there how does energy even. really work and I want to shout out Tom. Bearden who's one of the legends of. Engineers he was Lieutenant Colonel.

worked in Black projects for decades he. put so much stuff on the internet videos. on the internet because I think he knew. like one day people are going to realize. this stuff's true and one of the big. quotes he said is that all the coal and. oil we've ever burned all the wind and. solar power that's out there has never. added one Watt to the electric lines to. the power lines to the grid and you're. like H what what is that's weird what. does that mean and he says that all we. need to have energy flow is a dipole.

imagine a battery or a capacitor what is. that it's just an asymmetry it means we. have more negative charge on one side. than on the other and when you connect. it to a circuit it begins to flow and. try to equalize it it's like trying to. take the long route home and once it all. equalizes and becomes neutral the energy. stops our dipole closes so he says the. answer to this is keep your dipole open. as long as you have an asymmetry a. capacitor a battery that has your more.

negative charges on one side than the. other energy is going to keep flowing. out there and he says what we've been. doing wrong this whole time is we're. we're destroying our dipole over and. over again we should think about the. problem completely differently what I. tell people in the analogy I give is. like if I push somebody on a swing I. don't constantly push on the swing back. and forth right that would be silly. that's inefficient I wait for the swing. to come back and then I push on the. swing and I push on the swing in a. resonance right every time it comes back.

and you could if you graph it on a time. stamp you could see push push push push. that's basically what he says that we. need to do as well is that we need to. pulse a current potentially into our. system if we look at it differently. instead of pushing all the time and just. push at a certain point then potentially. we can keep our dipole open much more. efficiently. than. conventional uh Power Systems work right. now the last thing I'll say is that I. don't think people even realize how. power plants work like a nuclear power.

plant I think a lot of people have this. idea of like oh we're splitting an atom. and then the electricity comes out of. the atom and we're we're extracting that. and that would seem efficient if that. was the case that's not what we do at. all we basically put some material into. a water it boils the water the steam. comes out of the water and then it spins. a turbine and that turbine is basically. a generator where like I could just hand. crank a generator and that generator. creates the asymmetry of the charges. creates our dipole there and this is. what I think Tesla figured out I think. he figured it out over 100 years ago I.

think many other people have figured it. out I think a lot of these overunity. free energy devices that people have. discredited really do work do you owe. back taxes pandemic relief is now over. the IRS is hiring thousands of new. agents and field officers and has kicked. off 2024 by sending over 5 million pay. up letters to those who have unfiled tax. returns or balances owed don't wave your. rights and speak with them on your own. they are not your friends tax Network. USA a trusted tax relief firm has saved.

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start looking into anything that would. have moved Humanity forward these. they're all called quacks they're. imprisoned for fraud which is a very. strange thing to do in a free market to. imprison someone for fraud um and it. gets very interesting very quick when. you start to once you know what you're. looking for and you realize that they're. has been some sort of a government. conspiracy to keep information from us. in fact one of the things that I say is. when you really start getting into. history you realize that Enlightenment. they tell you about was actually the.

dawn of humanity being darkened like. it's it's actually these we are in the. Dark Ages I think right now and when. somebody pops their head up and starts. to look and says hey we could just be. doing this get and that's what's scary. because comes down on them the whole. system comes down on them absolutely and. who is the system that's a big question. I asked too I think it's more than just. the government I actually like the term. deep state but I don't think we should. be thinking on in terms of just the CIA. certainly the CIA is part of it I think. no doubt whatsoever I think they know.

basically everything's out there but the. large corporations right I think that. the two well I think they are of the CIA. that's my point all these stories of. like I was just in my garage and I made. Google and I'm like I don't think that's. exactly how it happened actually I don't. actually CI helped fund Google Earth. which is kind of interesting the CIA. also funds paler which Peter theel is. the head of I mean you look at this and. you see that really what we're dealing. with is very connected people that are. very rich that are I mean honestly even.

Elon Musk who refuses to comment about. these videos he's one of the biggest. defense contractors for the US. government through SpaceX he actually. just sent up more spy satellites they're. they're putting a new constellation up. actually of satellites that are smaller. and many more of them because they're. afraid that Russia and China are going. to use electromagnetic based weapons to. wipe out our satellites and then our. constellation is screwed so they're now. like basically diversifying their risk I. putting more out there which is why I. think these guys can't talk about a lot.

of the surveillance stuff because he's. got ndas that he like if those videos. are real that's a satellite video he has. NDA says he can't speak about it right. which makes me I I'm not and I look I. understand it from these kind of. perspective from Elon Musk perspective. the Lu zos these other UFO people is. that free energy is dangerous because if. you do have this capability to just pull. energy Straight Out of The Ether that's. out there you can just accumulate that. energy or what if we can amplify how.

much we pull out of there maybe plasma. like a plasma orb can basically just you. use the same resonance like if I was in. my bathtub and I'm taking a bath and I. start rocking back and forth you know at. a resonance eventually the water is. going to start shooting over the side of. the tub right it starts to amplify more. and more and more and more and more. through like standing waves potentially. so if you can do that with energy as. well uh potentially using that same.

Casmir effect but we don't need to use. two plates we can engineer it a little. bit differently what if there's other. ways where we can find an. asymmetry and if we can do that it. becomes dangerous this is where I spoke. to Salvador pz big shout out to him. everybody should take a look at his. patents because he's got high frequency. gravitational wave generator he's got um. inertial Mass reduction for a trans. medium craft is one of his patents he's. also got uh plasma confinement based on.

magnets as well and there are like a. bunch of experiments you can see on the. internet um but the guy who should. really get a lot of shout out is guy. named Ken shoulders Ken shoulders. actually Richard Fineman was the person. who said that there's enough energy like. in this cup just in the area of this cup. in the Zero Point Energy to vaporize all. the Earth's oceans so he was one of. those people was saying there's not. nothing here there's this huge amount. Ken shoulders was researching plasmas he.

called them exotic vacuum objects. because he believed that they were. extracting energy from the vacuum and. Richard fan initially thought he was. kind of kooky that he didn't have it. figured out he ended up having to. apologize to him because he was like no. actually you're right we can do this. well Hal Poff wrote a paper with Cole uh. where they showed that. Casmir effect does not VI laws. thermodynamics and one thing he said. there is a better mechanism for the. Casmir effect might be a highly charged.

plasma now when you look into Ken. shoulder's work of exotic vacuum objects. you find out that one of the things that. happens in these plasmas which is the. force state of matter is the electrons. start to break free not only do they. break free but they start to act weird. normally like I said before the. electrons will basically repel one. another because they have the same. charge. so they will potentially you know the. closer you get the more they're going to. repel one another but when they start to. break free and in super conductivity. they form Cooper pairs we call them.

which is basically the electrons start. to group up when they really shouldn't. now why is this important because. remember what I just said about the. dipole in the capacitor if you have this. asymmetry where your electrons are. grouped up and and now you have this. asymmetry there's more down here than. there is up here you're going to get. energy flowing so Ken shoulders found. out and proposed that you could have. basically a self- sustaining ball of. plasma that is constantly pulling energy. directly out of The Ether and the. dynamic Casmir effect cons uh along with.

the swinger effect and the swinger limit. would propose that when we do this when. we pull these photons out of The Ether. it may create a magnetic monopole now a. MAG magnet monopole if you look at a. magnet it's going to have these magnetic. field lines that go from north to south. a magnetic monopole is just a North or. just a South meaning it's just pulling. inward or just pushing outward and this. can be used to very accurately control a. magnetic field so now when we look at.

that thermal video of the orbs that we. were looking at MH370 based on what I've. said to you right now it's like well wow. can we can almost explain everything. that we're seeing here now we can say. that this is a field of plasma this ball. it's a non-radiating barrier the edge of. it is basically where the magnetic field. stops so to speak you can even see a. heat signature it's shaped like the. Tesla sign in there which could be like. a Vortex which is where you know think. of it like your drain when you pull the.

water out of your tub and you see the. drain same concept but between what we. perceive all around us and this ether. that's going on there and then with. respect to these dark lines we see in. front of the orbs that's basically just. negative energy they're they're. basically shielding the Z Point Energy. in front of the orb which allows it to. just freely similar to if like I was on. one of those like conveyor belt things. right it's not that me that's moving. it's space itself that's moving so.

they're essentially an alabar warp drive. I would argue and warp drive doesn't. have to be super luminal speeds beyond. the speed of light it can also be any. speed that you technically want it to go. and then what's happening when the plane. disappears well now these same orbs. converge on the. plane and now that we've shown that. there's this Zer Point Energy connection. to gravity we can see that what if we. look at the kums law which is a electric. force law if you imagine those orbs are.

magnets and they have the same each has. the same charge if I were to jam two. magnets together I'm going to feel a. strong repulsive Force potentially. that's what the orbs are doing when. they're converging because they're in a. perfect equilateral triangle so at the. midpoint there you're going to have your. uh your zero Point as they call it where. everything's going to converge directly. on the plane so that'll be the exact. center of the singularity that you're. forming and potentially they're. producing a magnetic flux that's so.

powerful by jamming them together at a. certain speed that it breaks SpaceTime. so to speak like just makes a ripple so. to speak as you were saying in terms of. Surfing and now that plane moves faster. than the speed of light and it doesn't. move faster than the speed of light. itself but it from outside perspective. looking at it it's looking like it's. moving faster in the speed of light it. just disappears here and then shows up. over here somewhere else and it's not. the plane that's moving but the medium. that's moving from one location to the. other and it looks weird to us because.

we don't perceive that extra Dimension. that's already out there interesting so. then if they're able to do this which I. think they are and they sort of use this. technology to move the. plane what do you. think happened to the passengers what do. you think happened to the car. and what do you think happened as well. do you think that's the reason rather. that the debris was found where it was. yeah so I would argue it could even be.

the fire or it could be the event that. caused some structural Integrity to the. plane for sure I think that if you use. the right hand rule in electrical. engineering which takes your electric. and your magnetic fields and you create. something called the pointing Vector. which would determine the flow of of. power the vector of your your wave um. you can see these orbs actually change. their orientation they're in this. triangle formation spinning around the. plane but then they go vertical. completely vertical you're like huh. that's interesting and it starts. spinning if you were looking directly at. the plane they would be going clockwise.

and if you use that as your magnetic uh. vector and your curl of my hands here. you'll find that the uh pointing Vector. would be backwards now this is really. interesting because if you take this the. frame right before as the orbs are. converging and the frame as the first. this dark cold endothermic event happens. which is potentially consistent with a. negative energy type event happening it. looks like the plane goes backwards a. little bit you can kind of see the tail.

sticking out of this endothermic event. that begins to form and if it's going. backwards we've mapped the direction of. travel a plane based on the satellite. coordinates it's going east so that mean. it must be going somewhere to the West. well this is interesting because that. fire suppression bottle was found in the. malds over to the West there was. actually 20 more witnesses 15 to 20 more. witnesses on a small island uh in the. Maldives in the early morning hours that. saw the plane and they were also all.

discredited because they said well. there's no way they saw the plane coming. from the west and people thought well. even if this was the plane it had to be. coming from the East because that's. where nicobar islands is or in the South. Indian Ocean but if this plane is just. snapping from one location to the other. now they might have actually seen the. plane these are people on a small island. of like 3,000 people they don't see. jumbo Jets and low over their thing they. even saw the red and white stripe of. Malaysian Airlines wow uh Sergio kvo I. think his name is went out there and. interviewed them I watched the.

interviews these guys are not they're. not lying they're making up this story. for what yeah for what reason where did. they see the plane go south towards. Diego Garcia military base fascinating. the argument this is the base that all. the conspiracy theories basically said. this plane got remote controlled there. or what have you um Mark Dugan who's a. famous French author actually was told. to stop looking into the plane and he. had speculated the plane ended up there. as well like months after this thing. disappeared Katherine T that witness. that we said I think it was in her 2008. blog 18 blog said that she thought the.

plane ended up in Diego Garcia it's the. only place to hide a plane and then when. you look at that debris drift analysis. again you realize a much better location. for that debris to have gotten in the. water is Diego Gara it actually fits. with the currents and it would make. sense in terms of when that debris. showed up in Africa as well. and I look at that and I go we actually. looked at the debris analysis uh that. they did and like at least five. different pieces say it looked like the. pieces were pulled apart and I'm going.

that doesn't sound like structural. Integrity it sounds like they just. disassembled the plane and threw a. couple pieces in the ocean right and. nobody questions like why does this. debris show up in Africa CNN man first. of all Don Lemon shout out to Don Lemon. he might have been the most accurate. it's not technically a black hole but uh. Wormhole is pretty close to Black Hole. the only difference is there's no Event. Horizon which means that for the people. that went through it it would look like. just walking through a doorway like you. instantly appear on the other side but.

from the observer's perspective there. might even be a time dilation effect. where they show up like a few minutes. later a few seconds later a few hours. later it's really hard to tell um but. CNN also ran this other piece where like. they angrily mention like there's. there's this conspiracy theory out there. that the plan went to Diego there's no. merit to it whatsoever but they don't. actually. address any of the arguments. either what if it was hijacking or. terrorism or mechanical failure or Pilot.

error but what if it was something fully. that we don't really understand a lot of. people have been asking about that about. black holes and on and on and on and all. of these conspiracy theories let's look. at this uh Noah says what else can you. think about black hole Bermuda Triangle. and then Dei says huh just like the. movie Lost and of course it's also. they're also referencing The Twilight. Zone which has a very similar plot. that's what people are saying I know. it's Preposterous but is it Preposterous. you think. Mary well it is a black holes about you. know a small black hole would suck in.

our entire universe so we know it's not. that muted triangle is often weather and. uh lost is a TV show so I think I always. like things for which there's data. history crunch the numbers so for me. those aren't there but I think it's. wonderful that the whole world is trying. to help with their theories and I. absolutely love the theories that's. always say yeah we always know you're on. to it because they're angry about. something that shouldn't make them angry. and it's it's authoritarian it's not. rational and it's just you're really. stupid if you think this and that should.

be a starting point we have covered so. much here this is. absolutely fascinating and I want to. encourage everybody that's watching this. to follow you where can they follow you. and continue to look into the story if. they want to know more yeah so the best. place to follow me is on Twitter on x i. feel like if I was anywhere else I would. have probably already been banned and. wiped out I'm actually surprised my. YouTube channel hasn't been deleted but. that's mostly because I think I I focus. on the science now at this point so you.

guys can watch my live streams Monday. Wednesday Friday talk about the plane. talk about secret science that's being. held from us uh talk about free energy. on Fridays as well um and then on X it's. just X Aston also just X Aston on um. YouTube as well I am going to start. posting Clips uh from a lot of the. appearances I've done I've done like. over a 100 podcast appearances on uh Tik. Tok and Instagram not that I love it but. if you want to interact with me you come. on to Twitter for sure yeah Ashton thank.

you so much for joining us this has. honestly been one of my favorite. conversations that I've ever had thank. you canice I appreciate it you're. awesome. [Music].