What Does Ben Shapiro Know About Erika Kirk And Fort Huachuca? | Candace Ep 283

All right, you guys. Happy Friday. Well, I just want to start by saying it's. pretty obvious that Ben Shapiro is. terrified. We can all see that now that. Charlie Kirk is dead. He seems to be. taking. multiple stages and demanding an. allegiance to Erica Kirk. In fact, it. almost seems like he's demanding that. nobody. inquire further about Erica Kirk. It's. odd because Ben had no allegiance to. Charlie Kirk when he was alive. So, what. is it about Charlie's widow in.

particular. that is inspiring his very public. nervous breakdown? Personally, I think he knows something. about her. That is what I am sensing. that he knows something about Erica. Kirk. And every time he speaks, I grow. more certain that Israel might be. involved with 9/10. So, let's keep. investigating. Welcome back to Candace. >> [music].

>> You know, Ben Shapiro just keeps calling. my name out on stage. He's calling for. me. He's calling for me and I'd like to. show up for him today. Okay, last night. he hit the stage at Turning Point USA's. AmFest the other night. And I'd like. first and foremost just to let you all. know some people noticed that he wasn't. on the AmFest list for years and all of. a sudden he's back on the speaker list. beginning in 2024. I want to let you. know how that actually happened. So, the.

story goes obviously that in 2024 Ben. fired me in March. Well, he would say. management fired me. But firing me wasn't enough. He wanted. to make sure my reputation and. livelihood was also destroyed. Of. course, what happened thereafter is. Charlie Kirk instantly came out and. supported me cuz we were like brother. and sister, always supporting each other. publicly. And then I showed you guys a. few episodes ago that we found out as I. was going to speak in Dallas at their. YWLS convention that Ben had sent an.

intern who was going to ask me a. question while I was on stage. But we. sort of rumbled this plan. And I called Ben out on stage. Ben did not like that I called him out. on stage. So, he began working behind. the scenes to have Jewish donors start. threatening Charlie to make sure that I. wasn't invited to speak at year end. because I was an anti-Semite. This is. what Charlie told me. And instead, he. wanted to be invited. So, he's just. going to purchase a friendship, right?

So, he comes at point USA and this is. what was divulged to me from Andrew Kolb. at the time, willing to spend an. offensive amount of money to be a part. of AmFest. Like I said, that was told to. me by Andrew Kolb at directly because he. wanted to say, "Look, like obviously you. know, we are totally Charlie's 100% on. your side. There This is like an. offensive ad spend." I was like, "Take. it. Take his money. I could care less, obviously." And I knew that he was. working with Barry Weiss to call and put. an article out saying that the donors,

the people on the board of TPUSA want. Candace gone. All of this petty. behind-the-scenes behavior because I. called him out on stage. Okay? So, quite. literally, this is the definition of. buying friends and influence and fame. Now, in case you're listening and. thinking, is Ben Shapiro actually. capable of that level of pettiness? I'm. going to tell you a story about Thomas. Sowell. Yes, Dr. Thomas Sowell of. Stanford. The story begins in 2023.

shortly after October 7th. You know, Ben. was sort of having another one of his. open nervous breakdowns and he his. audience just went caput. People just. stopped watching his podcast cuz he was. screaming at Americans that we needed to. prioritize Israel and people just didn't. feel that way. Okay, it's not our. country. I'm sorry that that happened to. you. But why why do Americans need to be. screamed at about what's happening in. the Middle East? Anyways, throughout this time Brian Mast. had was wearing an IDF uniform in. Congress and he basically said that.

there's no such thing as an innocent. Palestinian life. And when I saw this as shared by Yashar. Ali on X, I responded and I said that. genocidal language, no matter who shares. it, is always wrong. Genocide is always. wrong is what I tweeted. And this caused. an emotional breakdown among amongst. people who support Israel. I didn't think that was a controversial. statement. I thought that was sort of. what we all believed in. Genocide is. always wrong. Anyways, for Ben,

he then had some private event, probably. at another Jewish donor's house, and. somebody caught him standing on a table. insulting me over my genocide is always. wrong tweet. Take a listen to what Ben had to say. And then the question is about Candace. Owens. I think her behavior during this. has been disgraceful. >> [cheering and applause].

>> Her post-sophistication on these. particular issues has been ridiculous. It's not post-sophistication, it's. ridiculous. Everybody can see the moves. that she's making and the things that. she is saying and I find it. disreputable. Disreputable, disgraceful, she works at. my company. You can imagine that the. internet went crazy because they wanted. me to respond to him. I can't believe. this. They work together. They're. colleagues. Somehow this gets leaked. And I want to mention because it's very.

relevant that that was on the morning of. November 14th. I was 6 days away from giving birth. I. was very heavily pregnant. Anyways, I. wake up to this and shockingly I'm not. Nobody from the Daily Wire steps in to. manage the situation. And as you can. imagine, virtually every journalist, every person with a media platform was. contacting me to comment, to respond to. me being insulted by someone.

I'm about to give birth. I'm being. insulted. And they're not getting. anything from the Daily Wire. So, I am obviously frustrated. I should. You should also tell you I had no PR at. this time. My PR was the internal PR of. the Daily Wire. And it was very clear that their focus. was on protecting Ben, even though he. was the one who insulted me publicly. Because I said that genocide is always. wrong. That is the genesis of that. statement. That's all I said. Obviously, I wanted to respond angrily.

to the press. I wanted to hit back at. Ben. Uh. and I guess you could sort of say my. perspective was an eye for an eye. But. my husband, who's a better person than. me, instructed me that morning to. instead take a deep breath, relax, okay? Don't think about what you're feeling in. the moment. Uh think about how you're. going to feel in the future. And he. instructed me to instead read the Bible, Sermon on the Mount, the Sermon on the. Mount. And I read through it. And he. reminds me that everybody who wants to. comment, they don't care about me.

either, right? They're selling. headlines. They want the clicks. They. want the drama. And I'm going to feed. into that for what reason? For what. reason actually am I going to give a. comment and say something about Ben. Shapiro? Blessed are the peacemakers, right? Uh don't don't buy into this click. culture. And so, I tweeted that actually. my husband was right. I called for. peace. I tweeted blessed are the. peacemakers. And I made the mistake, I. guess it was a mistake, that after I. tweeted blessed are the peacemakers and.

I'm thinking that I'm going to be. commended when I get back to work. Like, "Wow, you really took the high road." I. ended uh. this biblical passage with. Christ is king. Christ is is the king. Like he's the. only thing that matters. Obviously, Christ is king. Now, it was just Tucker Carlson's luck. that I had been slated to come on his. new show the very next day. He had. booked me 6 weeks earlier. I got. approval from Daily Wire. He booked me. for November 15th.

So, suddenly Ben gets on this table. He. insults me. It's trending all over. Twitter. And Tucker Carlson is going to. be the first person to capture my. reaction to it. And when it came time, I. kept up with the peacemaker. I I decided. I made the decision to just take the. high road. I said, "You know, I I don't. want that to negatively impact how. people perceive the Daily Wire. There. are great people there. I mean, I I. wouldn't be proud on that. But I'm I'm. not taking the bait here." I didn't say. anything snippy back at Ben because I. didn't want to feed the mob. That was my. honest perspective. My.

husband was just right. And also, we're. talking about a work colleague, right? Somehow me taking the high road made him. angrier. So, here's what he did. Elsewhere in my interview with Tucker, he asks me who I look up to, who I like. And I told Tucker the truth that it was. my dream to meet Thomas Sowell. That. when I first got into politics, I read a. ton of Thomas Sowell books. And I had. tried many times to meet him. And.

obviously, he's aging. But I really. looked up to Dr. Thomas Sowell. And and. here's that clip with me and Tucker. Who do you listen to when you're trying. to figure out I mean, some of the stuff. comes at you so fast and you're talking. almost every day or writing almost every. day. Um who do you read or listen to to try. to make sense or bounce ideas off of? You know, I have been obsessed with. Thomas Sowell. Um and everybody knows that. I am pretty. much a Thomas Sowell groupie. Everything. he he writes, I read. And it is because.

he finally he was a part of my awakening. story into politics and made me focus on. the economics, which is to say block out. the noise and pay attention to. economics. Go backwards in history to. understand where we are. When has this. worked? Oh, it's never worked. They're. just telling you that it's going to work. into the future. And there's no evidence. to support that. So, when Ben saw that, he decided, "Thomas. Sowell, hey, that's your dream. You love. Thomas Sowell." He thought that was an. opportunity to get even with me for.

taking the high road after he insulted. me on stage because he's deeply jealous. of Tucker Carlson for reasons that I. cannot quite understand. Ben had his. team reach out and schedule an interview. with Thomas Sowell. which they paid for an offensive amount. of money I presume to effectively. purchase a black man who has no idea. what's going on. He's very old in his. 90s to hurt my feelings, okay? Interview with Tucker is on the 15th. I. think it premieres on the 16th. And Ben gets Thomas Sowell who he. doesn't care about.

I'm working at the Daily Wire at this. moment and I'm about to give birth in 3. days, but this was supposed to be like. an F U Candace for taking the high road. and saying that genocide is always. wrong. That is what I mean when I say he. is an incredibly petty man, okay? Now we know how this ends. I then am fired. Fired not for what I. said, but for what they assumed that I. meant and for trolls that I didn't. respond to. And I want to be clear.

It is you can fire whoever you want. You. really can if you're a business owner. It's just that this was atypical in the. fashion that it was done, right? It. wasn't done in the way where you just. say, "Okay, get out of here. It's not. working." Instead, what they decided to. do was humiliate me in front of all of. the other employees by rather than. having a conversation sort of. dramatically having me exit after doing. my show not knowing that I was going to.

be fired and then they had put together. a stage in my studio and. put up clips of put together basically a. whole package like almost like a high. school play and conducted what I. honestly when I look back cuz it it. recently leaked what happened at this. quote-unquote town hall. This is a slave hanging. This is a slave hanging, right? Gather. around everybody else is a slave and let. me tell you how this one messed up. Gather around and watch us whip this.

person. This is literally how I feel. when I watch this, okay? And you'll know what not to do next. And. here is a video of the then CEO Jeremy. Boring which somehow Steven Crowder got. a a hold of this week or last week or. whatever. This is just a portion of it. You should watch the entire thing. because it really is something and ask. yourself in your in your memory do you. ever recall anybody ever being fired. where 300 employees. Ben joined.

electronically he's up on the screen, too and just enjoyed watching me be. humiliated where 300 employees are. invited down and. shown a production of what this person. did wrong. Okay, well let's let's watch. a little bit of this video. Candace made no statement at all in the. days after Hamas terrorists raped, murdered, and tortured over 1,000. Israeli civilians, mostly Jews, some. Americans. And then they took hundreds more. hostage. And then on October 28th of 2023 while. anti-Israel protests were raging in.

London where Candace I believe was at. the time. she reposted a video of the protest on X. commenting quote, "Interesting thing. happening here. People are not accepting. the media narrative about what's. happening in the Middle East despite the. insistent rhetoric from government. officials.". On November 3rd she posted quote, "No. government anywhere has a right to. commit a genocide ever. There is no. justification for a genocide. I can't. believe this even needs to be said or is. even considered the least bit. controversial to state.".

There's only one country on Earth being. accused of genocide at the time. anti-Semites on X took to it. immediately. They cheered at what they. rightly or wrongly interpreted as. Candace smearing Israel. And Candace. didn't rebuff their interpretation. So. when Dave Rubin came to the exact same. conclusion as the anti-Semites only. instead of cheering for Candace found it. vile and rebuked her, Candace quickly. attacked saying quote, "What's amazing. about this is that I didn't name any. country in this tweet. I simply stated. that genocide is wrong always. This is.

not a controversial stance. Interesting. how you interpreted it." And then. followed up with quote, "In short, if a. blanket statement that genocide is wrong. upsets you in any way then you need to. check yourself. I said exactly what I. meant and I won't be backing down or. apologizing or further clarifying this. statement.". Within 24 hours Candace liked a post. calling Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin. Netanyahu a war criminal. Now let's be clear. You're free to disagree with Israel's.

conduct and you're free to oppose the. Netanyahu government, but the idea that. Israel is committing genocide or that. Netanyahu is a war criminal is just. factually baseless. Unfortunately, Candace routinely makes. insinuations about Jews that both lovers. of anti-Semitism and haters of. anti-Semitism both agree is. anti-Semitic. And in almost every one of. these instances Candace says nothing to. the anti-Semites who cheer her and only. pushes back against those who disapprove. of her comments. On February 28th of this year Candace. just asking questions posted quote,

"Time to look into the history and. profiteering of pornography.". Her replies were immediately flooded. with anti-Semites cheering her for the. question and providing the answer that. they interpret her interpreted her to. mean the Jews. Once again Candace did nothing to. disabuse the anti-Semites of their. assumption. But when Anthony Coach came. to the exact same conclusion Candace. pushed back saying quote, "This is. utterly insane. I tweeted that porn is. harming men in our society and this. person has interpreted that as an attack.

on Jews. This is an example of clinical. insanity. There is no other. explanation.". I stand by all of those tweets. Pornography is harming men. We should. look into who profits off of. pornography. Genocide is always wrong no. matter which country calls for it. whatever. What was controversial about. anything that I say now? I I'm again. wanting you to These are my crimes.

Just imagine 300 people being brought. and said like it's it's this is she said. this and this is what we know and then. he goes into a diatribe about the real. meaning of Christ is king and he shows. videos of Nick Fuentes. which had nothing had nothing to do with. me. I had never even spoken I think only. one time I'd spoken ever to Nick. Fuentes. And it was pertaining to Kanye. Yeah. That was it. But I'm showing you this because it's. important for you to understand that. this has never stopped. I want you to. imagine if you view yourself to be a.

slave owner and that slave not only. survives like this public whipping, but. that escapes and becomes successful. That's pretty much my relationship with. Ben Shapiro since he's fired me because. they have not stopped. They have not. stopped. I am talking about people. working behind the scenes to call. advertisers attempting to bankrupt me in. courts sending undercover interns to. stalk me. He has issued thus far three. court proceedings, okay? For every.

solitary petty infraction. against things that I say. He's worked. with Barry Weiss behind the scenes to. have articles written about me. It is. non-stop. I refer to this just to be. clear as legal abuse. It's legal abuse. and I have put up with a lot of it. I. have put up with the pettiness of even. suing me because I interviewed a USS. Liberty survivor who mentioned your name. as you pretend that you care about free. speech and debate.

I've put up with a lot of it, but today. I draw the line. I draw the line with. this miserable imp when it comes to. Charlie Kirk, okay? Don't try me on. this, but you keep trying me on this. You are an impostor, Ben. You're an. impostor. You pay to pretend that you're. friends, that you have a right to be on. that stage because you get donors to. pressure people because you know Jewish. people who can threaten to take money or. you say, "I'm going to do an advertising. spend. Here's a million dollars. I'm. sorry you're dead.". The entire world knows that you are an.

impostor. I mean you're so you're so much of a. fraud that essentially what you do is. you have people send around clips. to grown men to cheer you on to pretend. like the audiences just love you. You. staff audiences. with people that work for YAF who are. told to explode into cheers when you hit. the stage because you don't have the. confidence anymore to go out into the. world. because you know people see you for what. you are. And so it uh.

exactly what he did yesterday. We can. now listen to what this impostor said as. he hit the stage. Charlie Kirk's. organization, the one that he built for. debate if you have disagreement and he. instructs people here in this speech to. go after me and Tucker Carlson, right? That's what he's going to do. He wants. us deplatformed. So he's going to attack. me, he's going to attack Tucker Carlson, and he's going to attack Megyn Kelly. because she's at the beginning of what. these people have put me and Tucker and.

Charlie Kirk through. Take a listen to a. portion of what Ben had to say. So if Candace Owens decides to spend. every day since the murder of Charlie. Kirk casting aspersions at TPUSA and the. people who work here who worked with. Charlie every single day his best. friends to cast aspersions at Mikey. McCormick and Andrew Colvin and Blake. Neff and Tyler Boyer and yes at Erica. Kirk and to imply or outright claim. complicity in a cover-up over Charlie's. murder. to spew absolutely baseless trash.

implicating everyone from French. intelligence to Mossad to members of. TPUSA in Charlie's murder or a cover-up. in that murder. then we as people with a microphone have. a moral obligation to call that out by. name. So no, Tucker Carlson, it is not. an excuse to go silent on Candace's. targeting of TPUSA. >> [cheering]. >> Or to mirror her bull lines of.

questioning because you love Candace. personally. The same holds true of Megan Kelly, a. person I consider a friend, characterizing Candace as a young mother. and thus shying away from condemning her. actions or feeling bad about them. That. is a non-starter. When Candace Owens. says, "I don't know, no, but I know.". That is [ __ ] and we are all more. [ __ ] for having heard it. Well, Ben, when it comes to you and. having worked with you, I just know I.

just know the tactics that you use to. feign popularity in the public. I just. know the amount of money that you are. willing to spend on advertising to. inflate your numbers to make people. think that you're popular. So, yeah. I. don't have to say we don't know, no when. it comes to you. You are such a joke of a little man. Your jealousy against Tucker, your. ability to believe that you can keep. manipulating the markets, you know those. kids booed you on that stage, the amount. of messages I got from Turning Point USA. people saying what is happening, why is. he on the stage standing against.

everything that Charlie believed in. That's what you're doing. You're. standing against everything that Charlie. believed in. Cuz you weren't his friend. He didn't. like you for that very reason. Look at you and I just think you are. such a little worm. I could see you. right now, probably. Huh, what can we. get out to her? We're going to sue her. into bankruptcy again, right? Sue her. for every infraction, every word that I. don't like and every time my feelings. are hurt. Because what you really believe in is. Baal Berith.

That's what That's what your people. believe in. You believe that you are. contract lords. And that people are not allowed to. violate contracts or you will ruin them. For years. You fire someone and you. effectively stalk and harass them for. years after. I'm here to let you know. that I'm done with it. I am done with it. This one is so fully. off of the mother effing plantation. Truly, Ben Shapiro, [ __ ] you and the. [ __ ] horse that you rode in on. And I. say that on behalf of the world. I know.

you're going to get applauded by. Konstantin Kisin and Andrew Christ is. King Claven and all of the people, the. men who have to keep applauding what you. do like you're a 4-year-old to make you. feel good. But the rest of the world can't stand. you. You're obnoxious. You have. absolutely no values that exist outside. of the Talmud. You describe yourself as. a Talmudic Jew and I've learned what's. in that Talmud and I encourage other. people at home to learn what is in that.

Talmud that you know what Ben thinks of. you cuz he doesn't just hate me, he. hates you, too, white men. He hates all. black people, okay? If he's following. the rules of the Talmud, I mean when I. say hates, they think that we're animals. That they have a right to own us. That. they have a right to make us worship. them. That they have a right to lie to. us. That they have a right to sue us and. take everything that we have. That they. have a right to deceive us. That they have a right to treat Charlie. the way that he treated Charlie while he.

was alive. Only to then try to defraud the. population into thinking that he is. somehow a part of his legacy. That he. somehow cared about Charlie Kirk and. cares to protect the people that are. working at Turning Point USA. Goodbye, Ben. Goodbye. Question is how much more money is Ben. Shapiro going to spend to make people. think that he's popular? How many more. articles is his father going to write.

under a pen name, Hank Berrien of the Daily Wire, under. the pen name, Hank Berrien, as he wrote while Ben was at Breitbart. before he turned his back and betrayed. them, too, cuz that is his nature. One of these belly creatures, slither. on. Question is how many. more weeks and years do we have to keep. pretending like Ben Shapiro is relevant? It's an open-ended question. Of course, what followed Ben Shapiro on.

stage is somebody who Charlie Kirk loved. very much and who he fought for till the. very end against the Jewish donors who. were pressuring him, some of them. because Ben Shapiro insisted that they. do. Take a listen to what Tucker Carlson had. to say when he hit the stage. The prediction that, you know, at some. point when Republicans took power again, which I. did everything I could, uh, you know, to help. And I really felt. that was important. I I still think, you. know, I was right. But I really thought. that the impulse to deplatform people or.

even to use the word platform as a verb, which it's not. It's a noun. Don't steal my nouns. Deplatform and denounce. Why haven't you. denounced somebody else? The whole like. red guard cultural revolution thing that. we so hated and feared on the left that. we did everything we could to usher in a. new time. where you could have an actual debate. I. mean, this kind of was the whole point. of Charlie Kirk's public life.

And I think that, um, I think that he died for it. I really. believe that. And I know a lot about it. because the last several months of. Charlie's life. were. devoted in part to arguing about this. event. In fact, this speech. In fact, my. speech here. Which he asked me to do earlier this. year, this summer and was immediately. put under just immense pressure from. people uh, who give money to Turning. Point. I'm I would assume good people,

but who wanted him to take me off the. roster. And this is all become public and I This. the whole thing is so sad that I never. talk about it except to say. Charlie stood firm in his often-stated. and deeply-held belief. that people should be able to debate and. that if you have something valid to say, if you're telling the truth, you ought. to be able to explain it calmly and in. detail to people who don't agree with. you. And that you shouldn't immediately. resort to shut up, racist.

That is Charlie Kirk's true legacy and. that is Charlie Kirk's true friend. Just. as I was and am and will continue to. fight and ask questions about who killed. Charlie Kirk. Um, and to people that are. at home, I implore you to wake up. to these people who believe that they. are contract lords. I challenge black. Americans. to wake up to your true history because. your quarrel is not with white men. Okay? Wake up to who publishes these.

books and keeps us warring with one. another. Christians versus Christians, right? Christians versus Muslims. Uh, wake up and learn the true history of. slavery cuz that wasn't exactly a white. men's sport, okay? Jewish people were the ones that were. trading us. Jewish people were in. control of the slave trade. They've. buried a lot of it, but it's there and. you can find it. I think all of us need to wake up to. this because it's making me absolutely.

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tnusa.com/candace. If there is going to be one solitary. person who convinces me, who has. convinced me that the public is. justified in looking into Erica Kirk, it. is Ben Shapiro. Okay? Didn't like. Charlie. You're telling me he's just. obsessed with defending the honor of his. widow? No, he's he's fearful. He's fearful of. something about Erica Kirk. He just. keeps calling out Erica Kirk on stage. demanding allegiance to Erica Kirk. Who. are you? Actually, who are you? Why are. you in this conversation? Why were you.

so quick to say that you would pick up. his bloody mic and carry on? And didn't. you just like fire half of your force. that was involved in Daily Wire Kids. only to then drop a million dollars on. Charlie's show? Again, weaseling your. way into the chair when you weren't. invited to go on there, but Matt Walsh. was cuz that's what you do. Wheel and. deal behind the scenes make people think. that you're liked. It's embarrassing, really Ben. It's truly honestly. embarrassing. Why are you not. embarrassed to be alive? I don't. understand it. Anyways, so.

his general demeanor is is starting to. make me think that there's something. there, right? The the Fort Huachuca. thing, it's definitively compelling, I. would say. I am learning also that Fort. Huachuca has ties to Liberty University. and that you can attend classes there. and achieve your degree at Liberty. University. Still working to verify. that. But. Mark Amodei, we're going to get to that. actually that congressman in a second. Amodei has come out and really kind of.

not answered where he was on the morning. of the 9th. And as I said, I don't know. if we can rely entirely. on the memory of one person who believes. that he saw these individuals, but what. I can say is that we verified. 1000% that he was where he said he was, that the there was a meeting where he. says that there was a meeting. We. verified that Blake Neff, I mean sorry, not Blake Neff, pardon me, Captain Neff. was there, the one that he says was.

nice, but he got questioned for a very. long time and they wanted to hold him. for 24 hours. So, everything else that. people are trying to dig up about Mitch, you can just ignore. Okay? That is a. distraction, right? The only way that. you can help debunk anything that he has. said is to say, "Oh, actually, you know, I was the person that was there. It. wasn't this congressman, it was me." Uh. or I was staying at the Candlewood Inn. and Suites and I saw this couple or, you. know, these two individuals in the hotel. as well and it was actually somebody.

else. It was my cousin. We are looking. only for somebody to debunk those two. aspects. Okay? Cuz he was where he says. he was and everything else we have. verified. Ignore the no noise and stay. focused on that note because we did know. that he was going to get attacked by a. lot of trolls and I did tell you we. would put together a GiveSendGo. You can support Mitch at. givesendgo.com/candacepodcast. I literally just hit publish on this. right before we went live cuz I realized.

I hadn't done it. I need to fill out. more and a little bit more about his. story, but givesendgo.com/. candacepodcast. to support him. And like I said, I got. the paperwork regarding some lawsuits, everything he said about being put on an. NDA for 35 years, it is all real, it is. all verified. Take my word on it. You. don't have to send a bunch of emails and. saying, "Well, maybe this sounds weird. How do you get onto the base?" We. verified it all. Okay? Now, regarding Fort Huachuca and what it.

is or who he believes that he saw, we. told you obviously that he thought that. he saw the congressman from Vegas, Mark. Amodei. And I will say regarding the. call sign in Vegas, we keep telling you. that call sign at various times as Sam. 702 or RCH 702. Well, that's Vegas. 702 is Vegas. Shocking just about area codes. Obviously, 702. is Vegas, so that could just be. obviously a coincidence, but it becomes.

compelling. Well, Mark Amodei apparently received a. ton of phone calls from his constituents. who wanted to know where he was. Like, where were you actually on the morning. of the 9th? I want to remind you guys, the meeting was concluding at 7:30. We verified his call logs, we verified. everything. The meeting was concluding. around 7:30 a.m. in the morning on the. 9th. on Fort Huachuca at at Fort Huachuca. So, it is entirely possible and as.

flight routes show for planes that did. maybe perhaps were in attendance at this. meeting, you can get back to DC. You. just can. obviously in that time frame. Well, Mark. Amodei tweeted this. He tweeted, "For. those of you information consumers who. are stuck in practices of the old days, who prefer facts to dreams and. falsehoods, take comfort knowing that in. public service there is this thing. called the public record. The public. record on September 8th indicates that I. was returning to Washington, D.C. from.

my district and voting on the floor of. the House of Representatives. And on. September 9th in a 12-hour bark up in. the House Appropriations Committee, of. which I am a member, as well as voting. on the House floor. Should you prefer video to the words of. a member of the federal legislature, please feel free to view the House. Appropriations Committee's recording of. said event on that date. To quote Ronald. Reagan, "Facts are stubborn things. Merry Christmas." So, it's like, "Whoa, serving up.

I was for 12 hours locked into this. meeting." And so, there I am. There's my. alibi. Well, very quickly the internet. internetted and realized that actually. he missed two of the roll calls that. happened in the morning and that he was. present in the evening or late. afternoon. We are still working to. verify that. I replied to that feed, but. I can tell you what this person posted. and showed. Diligent Dennison on X Road. Exposed, Rep. Mark Amodei tries and. fails to give a solid alibi for the.

alleged September 9th meeting with. Charlie Kirk's security, Brian Harpole. The rep claims to have been traveling to. D.C. from his district on September 8th, then in a committee meeting for 12 hours. all day he was not present for roll call. until the third meeting in mid-afternoon. on the 9th in D.C. This means he could. have spent the night in Arizona on. September 8th, attended the morning. meeting on the 9th and caught a military. flight 3 to 4 hours away from the base.

to make it in time for the third roll. call in D.C. I can't believe he tried to. act like he was there all day. Cooked. Cooked at the end there. And they were able to demonstrate. according to record that he did miss two. of the roll calls. Now, there might be a reason. Again, we are. looking for follow-up and our goal here. is if he has an alibi and he was there. on the floor for 12 hours, we would be. obviously happy to say that. Like I. said, we can confirm confirm every. aspect of Mitch's story, but we can't.

confirm his memory and whether or not he. is good with facial recognition, but I. do find it to be compelling for a few. reasons. One is that I was actually. given the travel logs for Brian Harpole. and it is entirely possible that Brian. Harpole. could have made it for that meeting. I. can tell you that definitively, Brian. Harpole. could have made it to that base for that. early morning meeting meeting. There is. no question. And obviously in the. interest of making sure that I'm not.

misrepresenting him, I have now reached. out to Brian Harpole twice. I have his. number because he was Charlie's security. and I went on tour with Charlie for. years. Messaged him and know that he. received it according to iMessage. I. messaged him again. I messaged him just. so we're clear before we went live. yesterday and I messaged him again since. and I asked him, "Hey, look, we're only. in the interest in telling the truth. If. you were somewhere that morning, let us. know and we'll clarify that." You would. think that he would jump at at. opportunity because it why would you. want to have people even thinking or or.

surmising that you could have been at. this meeting when you can easily debunk. it. We got crickets. Crickets from him. Again, it could turn out that it was a Brian. Harpole look-alike. It is totally plausible that he just. mistook someone's identity and I am. totally open to that and just looking. for more information. There was. one person who we are vetting who. believes that they have evidence that. the people that Mitch saw were in fact.

on that base on that date. We will keep you guys obviously posted. on that. Now, something else interesting happened. I. have been sending, just so you know, when I send Mitch stuff that's happening. and I I'm trying to guess who was there. or who wasn't there. I don't give him. the context when I send him pictures. So, when he first described the. congressman, described the person's. height and the, you know, glasses, this. or that, I had sent a few congressmen. He was like, "No, no, no, no." And then.

we landed upon the Las Vegas. congressman. We did not give him the. name. I didn't know his name, to be. honest with you. And he went, "That's. the guy." So, it was interesting. And of. course, this was before we discovered. the planes and the route to Las Vegas, so that was compelling. Yesterday, and genuinely because I was. sitting down having a discussion at. dinner. with um. Johnny Yep, who runs Catholic for. Catholics, and we were sort of. discussing everything, and I get this. text message from Skyler being like,

"Ben Shapiro's like on stage. He's just. like calling you out again." I said to. myself, "What is his investment in this? What Why do I feel like he's somewhere. along the way implicated in something?". Let me clarify I'm not saying he. murdered Charlie Kirk, but it doesn't. matter if I said that either way. He. His whole style is to try to sue people. out of the free markets because he can't. win in the free markets. But, uh yeah, I'm going, "What Like what is this? Why. do I feel like there's a hook here?". And at that time, someone had mentioned. to me, "Hey, did you see what's going.

viral right now on X?" Which is that. Erica Kirk lied about having not dated. anybody before Charlie Kirk. And. actually, I knew that she had dated. somebody before Charlie Kirk, and I had. I had never known that she had made that. claim, and people were starting to make. all of these videos about it, and. wondering if she had misremembered, or. whether or not she was telling an. intentional lie about her past. Now, what I can say is that there does seem. to be disparity between her version of.

events and other people's version of. events. Definitively at that meeting, obviously, I've already intimated that to you. Like, Andrew Colvett has a memory, Erica. Kirk has a memory, and then the surgeon. has a memory, right? I should also mention that the surgeon. said. and again, this is through a third-party. person, so it's not a direct line. between me and the surgeon, that he. absolutely did not violate HIPAA when he. suggested, "Hey, maybe it's a frangible. bullet," but rather that it was a.

three-way call with him and Andrew and. Erica. I don't know if he's telling the. truth, or if Erica's telling the truth, and Andrew Colvett was flying blind. But, you know, there's a disparity. And as I was looking at this, I sort of. went, "Oh, wait. Yeah, I do remember. that Charlie. told me about Cabot Phillips dating a. girl. For some reason, I thought it was. Sammy, the other girl that he had a. crush on." And I was like, "Was it. Erica?" That's so funny. I'm trying to. remember this. And then, I saw a picture in somebody's. TikTok of Cabot Phillips. I hadn't seen.

him in a very long time, and he works. for The Daily Wire. And he had a beard. And that was the. thing that he kept saying to me is this. guy had a beard. He's around 37. Anyways, I send him the picture. of Cabot Phillips, and he says, "Yes. That's the person I remember being at. the base.". Now, I'm like, "That would be totally. crazy. Maybe again, this could be a. look-alike." And so, I messaged Cabot. Phillips and did not get a response. I. messaged Cabot Cabot Phillips twice. today, actually, and asked him if he.

wanted to have an off-the-record. conversation because I'm We can't just. like take that to the bank. Like I said, I am terrible with faces. So, if I saw. Cabot Phillips, I And I had to just from. reme- like from memory, I There's like. 30,000 other people I would say it was. definitely him, too. And I can't trust. Mitch's vision on this. But, it at least. is compelling, and I was like, "Let me. do some basic fact checks here. What do. I even know about this guy, Cabot. Phillips?". And I know that he does The Morning Wire. at The Daily Wire, and I checked and. he's missing from The Morning Wire. He. doesn't do it daily, but he does it.

enough times that I noticed that he is. missing from September 4th to September. 10th on that show. And so, I am looking. to see. to just debunk or like remove him from. the picture. That and and maybe to get a clearer. understanding that maybe, you know, Mitch thinks he remembers things. I. mean, he's super. detail-oriented, like telling me what. kind of watch the person was wearing. because he was like, "I was going to go. up to him, and I was going to say. something." And but I'm going, "I don't. I don't know anything about actually.

Cabot Phillips." And it was very. difficult to find any information. outside of his father, who I found a lot. of information about, actually. He's. He's a pretty big guy, you know, uh. taking a lot of money from. the Adelsons, and definitely a neocon. I'll tell you that for free. So, I thought, "Is this Could this be. the reason that, you know, with my back. of my mind, could this be the reason. that Ben's having some sort of a weird. spiral? Does he know something? Or is. this just a case, and it could be, just. to be very clear, could be a full case. of Mitch misremembering?" But, I didn't.

give him the context. I didn't say this. is Erica's ex-boyfriend from 2017. And I just found that to be interesting, and yeah, so I don't know what the. reason would be to say that you didn't. date someone you did. And. I I don't understand it. I genuinely. don't understand that at all. And the. internet did pull this up, which I think. we can show that. Uh yes, we're that. couple who gets painting lessons. together. There's a lot of social media. activity between her and his family. I. was also really compelled by how close. she is with her cousin,

uh this Nicole Rothstein, who defends. her in the comments currently, by the. way, and says, you know, "Erica, people. were asking why it seems like now. there's this bend towards Israel." And. Nicole Rothstein was like, "I'm her. cousin. She's half Jewish." I don't I. don't I did not genuinely I I did know. that she was part Jewish. I don't know I. don't know about any of this. at all, but it is interesting that you. they had a relationship, and I don't. know why that's being wiped from the. memory. There's nothing wrong with. having a relationship before you find.

love of your life at all. And so, I'm. hopeful that we can get some answers, and that's why I asked them publicly. When I can't get answers privately, I. ask them publicly. Do you want to know. why? Because I have a right to ask. questions. And like I said, I don't like. the way Ben is signaling that he doesn't. want people looking into Erica, okay? And when people start looking in, they. then find that a Daily Wire employee. dated her. So, that seems. interesting, to say the very least. And we should figure out, you know, what's actually going on. Like, what is.

actually going on? He even says the. Mossad. I never once said the Mossad. killed Charlie Kirk. So, was that by. accident? >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Jeff's really starting to think, in a. major way, that Israel's got something. to do with killing Charlie Kirk at the. Egyptian planes, uh which we are putting. the final touches on cuz I don't want. there to be even one typo or mistake on. this, uh that we're going to put up on. our website. It leads you to Israel. It. just does, okay? There's no question.

That's why they were panicking about the. Egyptian planes. Fort Huachuca is. involved in lawsuits and sworn. affidavits regarding 9/11. Uh people who. asserted that the prepping for that took. place. The vibes are vibing here. at Fort Huachuca. The more that I learn. about Fort Huachuca, and that's why we. open you guys to this investigation to. send us tips, and I would like to focus. you on what we would like to learn. If. you have concrete evidence of what. occurred at Fort Huachuca on the early.

morning of the 9th, we want to hear from. you. We do not want an email about what. Mitch did in 1993, and why you don't. think he's a good person cuz he had a. divorce with his wife. We just don't. need that. We do not want an email. saying, "I'm in the military. It would. be unusual for them to allow him to book. the hotel." We've already confirmed all. of it. He has a literal video of him. that's 18 minutes long asking for. directions to get to where he's going. We can see in the background where he. is. We don't want you to waste your time. on that. We have verified everything we.

could verify about the story. We cannot. verify the people, and. um yeah, I just I just sense that. there's there's something there. Cuz Ben is coming undone, and he only. comes undone about one topic, and that. is Israel. So, uh we will take a break, and I will answer some of your. questions. All right, you guys. You should know. that as a consumer, you actually carry. the success or the failure of a business. in the palm of your hands. Their success. depends on your decision to spend money. with them or their competitor. Well, my. friends at PureTalk would like to say.

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You'll see that I haven't donated yet. because I literally hit publish on that. uh right before we went live, but you. can support Mitch at. givesendgo.com/candacepodcast, and yeah, it it feels it good to be. doing stuff from the people, to the. people, not relying on these traditional. modes of really slavery. People that are. artificially created in the market and. are protected, and what do they do? They. they always want people to be removed. from the market because they can't. compete. They if if the rules are fair,

they would never they would be nowhere. That's the Barry Weiss's and Ben. Shapiro's of the world. They would be. absolutely nowhere. I mean, imagine. having your dad babysit you and like. write mean comments to people on the. internet and you're like 45 years old. Like, what even are we talking about? Okay, top comment from last episode. Stephanie writes, "Why would this man. willingly bring hell on himself if he. was not telling the truth?" I know. I I. And there's so much more about his. story. Like, when you start reading what. they put him through, it's just it's. unbelievable. And again, I think that's. why so many veterans who have honestly.

been through these scenarios with the. military, uh just wrote so many. beautiful emails. I wish I could share. them all with him. Many people, by the. way, who completely verified what he. said about Fort Huachuca. One person who. even said, "Oh, that year I was actually. JTF, and he's absolutely telling the. truth because of the horses." That part. he talks about like the horseback. riders, and they told me who the general. was that insisted that they uh all learn. to ride horses. So, I yeah, he's he is. very much being supported, and we can do. the stuff without support from the.

mainstream media. Let them keep calling. us crazy. I'm okay with that. You would. actually we would only be crazy if we. believed anything that they were saying. at this point. Unaffected COVID writes, "Go Max, Candace, go Max." Thank you for that. donation. Chance Callahan writes, "As a. gay Tennessean and OG Candace stan, I. have always appreciated your. authenticity and intellectual honesty. I. used to have to defend my support of. you, but that is no longer. The people. are waking up and recognizing who and. what is fake and gay. Stay safe, and.

thank you." Yeah, even the way when he. tries to like diss me on stage and he's. like, "Retard." The way he says [ __ ]. is like he's just he's so effortlessly. uncool. That's what I want to say about. Ben. He's just like effortlessly uncool. So cringe. Eight birds writes, "All I. want for Christmas is justice for. Charlie. Here's a Christmas present for. you, Candace. Thank you. I am so. grateful for you, and I pray for you. constantly. Keep it up. God is using you. in a big way." Thank you. And I feel. that way. I feel like all of this is us. just breaking the shackles. Like, there. have just been mental shackles that have.

been put on us telling us we have to. stay in line, that we have to accept. this, that we have to believe in this. arbitrary authority, and everyone around. the world is waking up to it. Like, I we. are just waking up to how absolutely. duped we have. become as a society, believing that this. system is fair when it's so clearly. rigged in our faces. And yeah, I I I just hope that people. feel inspired to similarly go Max and. stand up against it, and I don't even. care about these lawsuits anymore. I. mean, Ben's going to get me a legal. letter so fast. I don't care, man. This.

is your whole the Pharisees, people who. write the laws, and we got the judges. and blah blah blah, and we'll put you in. a private court and sue you for liking. tweets. Like, you heard him on stage. Like, that's I was like literally sued. for liking tweets. You know how petty. you have to be to even look at. somebody's likes? What are you doing? Like, what are you doing? And then. publicly trying to pretend like you care. about free speech while you privately. sue people who are just trying to leave. your company after they're fired. You. fired me. Like, you let me go. Like,

please let me go. Stop telling people you're chosen. You. are not chosen to do [ __ ] except within. the synagogue of Satan. Clearly, because. everything you do is the manufacturing. of lies, bullying, getting people to. write articles, smearing, libeling. Yeah, it's pretty explicit what kind of. people engage in that sort of stuff. So, anyways, let me stop telling you. guys how I really feel. Let me stop. telling you guys how I really feel. A U Bazri writes, "Damn, let her cook.".

Nam writes, "I might not be rich, but. this is for the joy you gave me for. calling out mini Benny out for his. Napoleon complex. I haven't had a laugh. that good in a while. Thank you, go Max, stay Max." Guys, this isn't even the tip. of the iceberg in terms of what that man. has put me through because I survived. Like, literally, it's like that's why I. say it's a slave owner mentality. It's. very obvious that that's what it is. Why. are you hosting 300 people to fire. someone? What is that? Here's what you.

did wrong. Here's what you did wrong. And I'm just like the one who doesn't. even flinch. Because literally, F you. Yeah, literally, F you. I don't care. Stop. Kanye was right. He was totally. right. That's why he burned down his. life and said, "I'd rather rebuild it. than let you own 1 oz of it." And when. you do rebuild it and they don't own it, well, then you then you get into a scary. territory. Right? You get into a scary territory. because what they are willing to do to.

take when they can't earn it, it's very. scary. History tells us and shows us. A K X H writes, "They're angry that. Candace is intelligent, eloquent, beautiful, and stays beating them at. every turn. I'm so glad that you spoke. up about the racial element of this. You're a role model to us black women. everywhere. Candace, go Max." Yeah, guys, black people just got to learn. your history, man. You got to learn. uh. once you the minstrel shows, who's. behind the minstrel shows, and you know, the truth behind the Jim Crow laws, and.

um. who. even when you learn about the the. clansmen, you know, the things that. happened, and all they had to do was. control our our textbooks and keep us. all fighting each other. Like, you're. out here talking about what what the. white man has done. Who do you think tried to genocide the. white man in Europe? Right? Yeah, take a. look at that. Keep telling you re- watch. that PBS documentary that they came. after me hardcore. for speaking about. Uh what's the what. the savage piece? Yeah, those are your ancestors, guys.

Yeah. You are European. Like, white. Europeans. These are your your. ancestors, and with propaganda, they. basically mob along. They get you as. white men to sign up and agree to murder. white men on the other side of the. world. It's white men murdering white. men, and for different reasons being. propagandized. Wake up. Like, we all need to wake up. and lock arms against sheer evil. And the military-industrial complex is. sheer evil. And the psychological games.

they are playing with people they're. playing on people is sheer evil. What. Charlie was going through in the end. because of Jewish donors. threatening him, "I'm going to take everything if you. even let Tucker speak." Over speech is. sheer evil. It's despicable. Somebody should. apologize for it. Instead, they go, "We'll buy our way, and Benny will sit. near Charlie's chair, and we'll pretend. he was his friend. We can just buy. everything. We'll buy your compliance.".

No. Actually, our answer to that is no. Christie writes, "And that [ __ ] horse. you rode in on, LOL. I love you, Candace." Uh and I mean it. Like, really, I mean that, and I know I. probably am most definitely going to. have to confess, but I have taken the high road enough, and I'm sick of the lawfare. Stop showing up to my house. because you do things to me. Imagine. doing something to someone and then.

demanding they apologize for it. Like. it's like it's totally crazy. And I was. um. I extended every courtesy, you guys. I. extended every courtesy. My husband. really said, "Let's do Let's do the. Christian thing.". Um but I realize you can't really do. the Christian thing with people that. hate Christ. Doesn't work. Christian. thing doesn't work with people who hate. Christ. So, if you're a good Talmudic Jew, as he. always says he's a Talmudic Jew, you will understand once you get what's.

in that Talmud, exactly what he means. and exactly what he thinks about you. It's important that you understand that. Eight birds Oh, sorry. Um Seven sheets. writes, "What a year. You deserve a. break, but we'll be waiting. You deserve. journalist of the year for just not. being by fake and gay. God bless and be. safe." Thank you guys so much. Curbster. writes, "Our new motto in Candace's 2028. presidential campaign slogan should be. Today is another great day to go max.". It would just be go max. I would never.

run for president. I hate everybody. that's in DC. I hate their values. I. think they are despicable and. how they have acted since Charlie has. been assassinated. I hate that they are. embarking on this psychological campaign. to try to make us believe that what. happened that day was normal. It has. made me lose faith in politics. It has. not made me lose faith in the Lord. And in many ways I see everything. uh that. Charlie wanted. I I understand that he. knew he was going to die. And I.

understand that it has to be me that. defends him and exposes this entire. matrix to the world. So, anyways, you. guys, I think I've said enough today. So, uh we'll see you whenever we see you. I. will communicate. We might do something. next week. Um I know I owe you guys a. book club, but we'll see you soon.