VIRAL! It's Okay Not To Believe A Word Erika Kirk Says. | Candace Ep 317
All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. Got. a lot going on today. We're going to go. back very briefly to Fort Huachuca. That's fun. Some fort, as Andrew Kolb. infamously said. Couldn't have been more. obvious right away. The amount of money. they spent on that campaign to debunk. Mitch immediately. So over the top. They. were never successful at doing that. The. public remains curious whether or not he. saw that security meeting take place. Um. and Baron Coleman has discovered and I. have confirmed that there was another.
plane that's associated with Turning. Point USA that spent time at Fort. Huachuca after the assassination. So. Mitch's story is becoming increasingly. more feasible. But big news. Exciting. news. I believe we have at long last. solved the mystery of the tarmac hug. Thanks to the police scanner on. September 10th in Provo upon which the. officers were discussing sending a team. to pick up Erica. Look, these people are simply not going. to get away with what they did to.
Charlie. Not if Drewski the comedian has. anything to do with it. I will be. reacting to his viral skit later. Welcome back to Candace. All right, this episode is brought to. you by Nick Nac, a dissolvable nicotine. pouch that is perfect when you need a. quick no-fuss moment during the day. Try.
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recording on the police scanner from. that day wherein it is mentioned that a. Sergeant Dupey uh was going to pick up. Erica Kirk from Provo Airport. So let's. take a listen to that. Confirming this channel secure. Negative. Provo main channel is not. secure. My apologies. I was just saying is. service channel uh able to be scanned or. am I. can I give information over this uh. channel? Here's your good. We uh unpatched the.
service channel, so this is just Provo. service. Go ahead and talk. This will be info for IC. Uh myself and Sergeant Dupey. are. uh in route to Provo Airport. Uh. victim's wife is arriving at 3:30. 2J436. 436, go ahead. Was there a ATL sent out. Okay, and obviously we just have like,
you know, AI uh. telling you what it said there. When. they say 436, they're not talking about. the time. They're probably talking about. the police cruiser number or whatever. But 3:30. 3:30 is when that pick up is. scheduled for. So basically we can. conclusively confirm uh that Erica did. not wait an hour on the tarmac for. Andrew's alleged plane to land at about. 4:40 p.m., right? 3:30 was the pick up. So this only makes sense if Andrew was. aboard Charlie's plane with Erica.
Okay? For some reason, maybe I had and I. just forgot, but for some reason I feel. as though I did not consider the most. obvious answer to how this tarmac hug. took place. Gratefully, you guys at home. are smarter than me a lot of the times. and you can see what's right in front of. me sometimes when I cannot. The tarmac hug obviously had to take. place. in Scottsdale. It's the only thing that makes sense. Of. course it did. It did not happen in.
Provo at all. It happened in Scottsdale. And I feel tremendously confident about. that now because of what Andrew said to. me on the phone. He said he was alone on. the plane uh but he also said how he had. acquired all of this anxiety. He said. everyone was messaging him asking what. was going on and he had no one to talk. to. And this is the most crucial part. He told me. that he didn't know what was going on. So he's fielding all of these questions. from people, myself among those people.
by the way, regarding Charlie and he. didn't know what was going on with. Charlie. He didn't know the answer. Well there was only 1 hour, not even 1. hour, when he didn't know what was going. on with Charlie, okay? Before they were. all made aware, and I mean like the core. team, the infrastructure at Turning. Point that Charlie had died. Got about. really about a 40-minute window where he. did not know what was going on, where he. couldn't answer questions. The only time. frame uh that he.
didn't know what was going on with. Charlie was in that immediate aftermath. of Charlie being shot, which is the. exact time that the Santa Barbara flight. takes off and heads for Scottsdale. Andrew Kolb was aboard this flight. I. feel. very confident stating that. If he comes. out and says he wasn't, I'll adjust, right? But looking at all. the facts, uh let's think about it. The. flight takes off 5 minutes after Charlie. is shot, okay? I feel we can bet that Andrew was on it. because he is messaging a bunch of.
people. Like I said, I was one of the. people that he was messaging. I messaged. him at 12:40 Mountain Time, so a little. under 20 minutes after Charlie got shot, and I said, "Please say he's okay." And. Andrew Kolb replied and said, "I don't. know. Shot for sure.". And then at 1:19 p.m. Utah time, Andrew. said to me he has a pulse, but I know. nothing else. So he doesn't know. anything else at this time. This is the only plane that Andrew. Andrew could have been on. Uh whereupon.
he did not know, okay? We have to we. have to stress that. This is the only. plane. The plane from Santa Barbara to. Scottsdale is the only plane that fits. the description. that of Andrew not knowing what is going. on with Charlie. Now Erica claims that he was on the. flight that landed at 4:30 p.m. into. Provo. She's lying. Erica's always. lying, okay? And she's definitely lying. about that because Andrew would have. known that late that Charlie was dead. He would have known what was going on. That that could not have been the flight.
that Andrew Kolb was on because the. entire world at that moment knew what. was going on with Charlie Kirk. They. knew that Charlie Kirk had passed away. Uh and Andrew actually himself confirmed. how soon he found out. He put it at. about between 30 and 40 minutes after. Charlie had been shot, which is about. the time frame that Erica is going to. learn that Charlie did not make it uh. was around the time that he learned that. Charlie had died. Take a listen. How long did it take before you knew he. had died? I um.
there was a. I don't know. I want to say probably 30. or 40 minutes. Okay. So there was a a. report There was a report, yeah. It was. before I knew before Trump put the Truth. Social out. Between 30 and 40 minutes. Okay. 30-40 minutes after Charlie got. shot, he knew that Charlie did not make. it. So the story goes that Andrew took off. right after Charlie got shot from Santa. Barbara. He received the news.
uh while he was in the air. that he did not make it, that Charlie. died. He therefore, being on his plane by. himself, had a lot of pent-up emotion, just like he told me, and no one to. speak to aboard the flight. Some heavy news to take and to accept. and to digest while you're aboard the. flight. And then he touches down in. Scottsdale. And Erica is the first person that he. sees when the plane doors open. And he releases all of that pent-up. energy, people fielding asking.
questions, is he okay? And then finally. learning that Charlie Kirk is dead. in a hug with Erica. This is why Erica cannot answer whether. or not his wife was on the plane. because this hug took place. uh in wife was not present for that. So I am surmising. that. the TPUSA core crew all gathered at. Scottsdale Airport. Okay? They all met. That was a meeting point. at Scottsdale Airport before after.
Charlie Kirk got shot. And let me tell. you why this deeply matters, why I was. not letting this go, okay? Why I'm like. a dog with a bone on this detail. Actually, I'll allow Baron Coleman to tell you why. it matters. Why does this matter? Great question. Here's why it matters. Because if Andrew left Santa Barbara. before Charlie got shot, then there was. a plot to kill him. That's why it matters. If Andrew left Santa Barbara before.
Charlie got shot, there was a plot to. kill Charlie Kirk and Andrew knew about. it. That's why it matters. In my opinion, it is evidence that that might have been. the case and that they've been lying to. us the entire time. That's why it. matters. Precisely, Baron. It matters because it suggests and does. not conclude, okay? But it suggests.
certainly that there may have been some. sort of a foreknowledge because for what. other reason would Andrew be sitting on. a tarmac just about to fly to Scottsdale. when Charlie gets shot? For what other. reason would he be taxiing on a runway. cuz that's what he would have had to. been. I think it takes off 5 minutes. after Charlie's shot. You have to be. taxiing, right? When Charlie gets shot. Now if I was playing devil's advocate. and it's good to play that, but you. should remember that you are therefore. advocating for the devil. I would say, well, Turning Points in.
Arizona. Maybe. you know, he did the first hour of his. show live. and maybe he had a meeting or something. You know, that his PR team's there, a. lot going on. It's the beginning of the. tour. Maybe he was just actually. traveling to Scottsdale. But if that was the case, they wouldn't be hiding it. This would not be something to hide or. to lie about, right? You would just be. like, oh yeah. Yeah, I hugged I hugged Eric on the. tarmac when I got to Scottsdale. It's. crazy. Like I was crazy coincidence. I. was like flying to Scottsdale and.
Charlie got shot. You come right out with that. So yeah, I am suggesting that they all. met up at Scottsdale Airport. My very. strong opinion is that is what. transpired on that day based on the. evidence that is sitting before us. Because I will tell you what did not. happen. Andrew Andrew did not sit in. Santa Barbara. for 3 and 1/2 hours twiddling his thumbs. before then finding a plane that could. get him to Provo. It's pretty easy to. get a private jet. That's a nonsense.
narrative. A nonsense narrative. Erica, similarly, did not wait until. 4:30 for him to arrive. at the tarmac. and then hug him on the tarmac to greet. him in Provo and then head to the. hospital with him. We now know that. officially did not happen. The timeline. does not work because of what Andrew. told me happened and what the police. scanner is saying about when Erica was. picked up. So what is much more likely is that they. met at the Scottsdale Airport, all of.
them. They communicated in person, perhaps in the unmarked building. And then they all traveled together to. Provo aboard Charlie's plane. Cell phones off. That's my theory. And I'm going to put out another APB. here. regarding who's Charlie's pilot was, okay? I know that his first name is Jamie, but. that's all I know. I think he might be. from Texas and I would like to know more. about Jamie. I would like to reach out. to Jamie.
Does anybody know more. information about who Jamie the pilot. is? Cuz I think this would be crucial. information. A crucial person for me to. learn more about and for me to be able. to reach out to. I think that's a that's. an unidentified character here. Uh so please email us at. moretips@candaceowens.com. if you know who the pilot Jamie is. I. will leave no stone left unturned. Will. he talk to me? Probably not. But I'm. going to try. This means that we now need to go back. and revisit that minute-by-minute.
timeline that I created way back when uh. because it just shows you how. implausible it is how they are lying to. us. This is massive. Turning Point USA. is lying. They are lying. about what transpired on that day. Okay? Our minute-by-minute timeline. uh from, you know, leading up to when. the shot is uh fired and we if you kind. of just kind of get down, we can kind of. go These are like Mikey's immediate. phone calls. We can go to the next page. here. Um and I This is what I believe.
happened. I'm putting this out as my. theory that Andrew departed from Santa. Barbara headed for Scottsdale um at. approximately 1:03 according to his. memory. He learns that Charlie Kirk did. not make it. That would track with Erica. at the airport, Elizabeth's story. Erica. told me, obviously, that she found out. before like just before they got onto or. before they got on the plane. I don't. know if she said just before. Um but she knew before she got on that.
plane and we can see Andrew is then. going to land into Scottsdale. I mean yeah but have that tarmac hug. with Erica. And then there's this mysterious flight. that I know nothing about uh but I think. it's relevant. We saw it today that. departs from Page, Arizona for Provo. because I remember that Page, Arizona. uh that was that also that N888 flight. uh that was very strange. That was it was also going back and.
forth from Page. So I I just wonder what. was what was going on in Page, Arizona. on that day. Then we know that Marina Medvin is going. to ask Aubrey to draft the death death. statement. She says that Andrew is on a. plane. I think actually they he had his phone. off. I think they had their phones off. Uh Justin Stripe is going to send the. email that was drafted by Aubrey. announcing Charlie's death to the entire. Turning Point USA staff staff at 2:27. 2:31, Charlie's plane.
I believe with all of them on it departs. from Scottsdale and heads for Utah. Uh at 2:40, President Trump announces. that Charlie has died via a Truth Social. post. And then that flight that I then. identified lands. into Provo from Page at 2:48. Then we have from the police cruiser I. mean um from the police scanner. that Erica, Elizabeth, and Tyler, and. Stacy Sheridan, and Cat are going to be.
escorted to Timpanogos Hospital. And. what I will say is I don't believe. Andrew went with them. I think Andrew waited. for an hour on the tarmac for his wife. And I believe that that 4:36 plane, as. my memory serves, is that he said, "Yeah, of course I want you to come.". to his wife. Cuz. that's just what I remember him saying. and I immediately thought his wife. scrambled and went to Provo a bit later. I believe she then lands on that 4:36.
plane from Santa Barbara. And then Andrew and her go to the. hospital and go through a different. entrance, the front entrance and not the. one that Erica um and Elizabeth McCoy. and Stacy Sheridan and Katherine. Locastro and Tyler Boyer went through. This is this is my thesis that I feel I. have worked on with evidence and facts. and putting things together. attempting to communicate, obviously, with Turning Point USA. But that has.
been sort of a dead end since they sent. me the cease and desist. Um. yeah, I think this is correct. And it's problematic. At the very least we can conclude that. Erica and Andrew did not hug in Provo. Which only leaves us with Scottsdale. Now it is incredible, by the way, to go. back and to realize how many times Erica. Kirk has lied. Just little lies that she. told and that we keep catching and my.
producer today caught that infamous New. York Times article that she did. interview that she did immediately. following Charlie's assassination where. she welcomed them the enemy of Charlie. Kirk into their condo and granted them. the first interview of the of the. aggrieved widow. Or there's tons of. little mistakes that don't feel like. mistakes to me. I do not believe for all. their faults. that the New York Times sat down and. lied about what the widow told them. You. would have to believe that to think that.
they that the New York Times made. mistakes and Erica didn't give them. wrong answers, right? Little things like. when they say Erica was in the hospital. with her mom. That's a lie. Erica's. mother was not in the hospital on. September 10th. Erica's mother was at an. opt-in. uh well, in general, the treatment she. that that's being referred to. Erica's. mother goes to an opt-in treatment. center, you know, the likes of which you. see at IV places, tons of chairs around. The idea was to sort of double.
inflict the public with this concept of. the widow who was just doing the right. thing at the right time and it was. already in a hospital. and then with her mother who's dying. You're supposed to think her mother was. dying. That was the purpose, I believe, of her posting on September 8th. She. hadn't posted her mother in years. In. years. And suddenly she posts a video of. her mother looking frail and sick. That. is intentional. Okay? I'm tired of. pretending that Erica is was not using. her Instagram to manipulate us. Okay?
You don't go from my mom doesn't want to. be posted on Instagram. I don't post my mom on Instagram for 2. years to I'm now going to post her in a. frail uh. condition. 2 days before Charlie gets assassinated. That feels manipulative to me just like. it feels manipulative that we were taken. into Charlie's casket. Okay? Um she posts that and the New York Times. says she's in the hospital so everyone. runs with that. That's not true. Erica's. mother was not in [clears throat] the. hospital on September 8th. She was not.
in the hospital on September 9th. And. she was not in the hospital on September. 10th. I can debunk that formally. But they let that go for a reason. Well, then another little little lie. that Erica tells is that um. the at least the reporter reports that. Erica found out that Charlie was dead. while she was airborne. This is a direct. quote from the article. Now, mind you, if a journalist in New York Times would. have had a reporter there, obviously. What if a journalist gets something. wrong? You can just contact them and. say, "Uh you recorded this wrong." This.
is None of this article has never been. corrected. Okay? It says Mr. Kirk's chartered plane. traveled back to Scottsdale to ferry his. wife to Provo. He was pronounced dead as. she was airborne. "I'm looking at the clouds and the. mountains," Ms. Kirk recalled of those. surreal hours. "It was such a gorgeous. day and I was thinking, this is exactly. what he last saw.". Do you think that the New York Times. reporter made that up? He was pronounced dead while she was. airborne. Do you think that No, it's a.
crucial It is the most crucial detail. You're a journalist, you go in, you're. going, "I have the biggest story since. 1963.". I'm sitting down with the Jackie Kennedy. of 2025, right? I have the biggest story and I'm. going to mess up this detail? When you. ask, "Where were you?" That's the first. question you ask. "Where were you when. you got the news that your husband was. dead?". You think that the journalist messed up? I say no. I say I say the journalist was. told that Erica was on a plane.
Could you go back, Dom, and pull me back. up the minute-by-minute timeline so we. can see what time that would mean she. found out? Right? 2:31 p.m. Utah time. Just 9 minutes before. President Trump. No, that's not true. It's just false. It's not even what Erica told me to my. face. It's not even what Erica told me to my. face. She said. which more closely mirrors what. Elizabeth McCord said that she found. out. Elizabeth McCord said right when. she got to the airport. This is like an hour and a half.
difference, okay? This is crazy. You. can't just make stuff up. And Elizabeth McCord similarly reflected. the New York Times version of events and. made it sound like implied Erica was. either airborne or I would say it's just. implied that she's airborne when she got. the news because Elizabeth McCord posted. this on her on her Instagram back in. October. She wrote this. No one teaches you how to comfort a a. woman on a plane who only moments. moments before. became a widow on her way to face the.
reality of her husband's assassination. moments before. Now you're comforting her. It sounds. like Erica's on a plane. So that was the. story until the story changed. And and now it's oh um Erica knew before. she got on the plane, the plane came. later. Ladies and gentlemen, there are just too. many inconsistencies in the story. There's too many it it is like it is. a nonsense for people to ignore the.
cascade of inconsistencies in the days. leading up to the assassination, in the. immediate commentary that Erica gave to. the New York Times reporter, everybody. grieves differently, oh I got I mistake. I I I I I I. was wrong on that. Oh, I I can't really recall what he did. the night before. There was other little. details that she. brings up the New York Times that seems. slightly adjusted like the night before. Later on when she's with. Jesse Waters, the big thing is GG. New.
York Times article, there's like not. really a mention of there's not a. mention of GG at all the night before or. Charlie snacking and waking people up. the night before. She also slightly. adjusts in the New York Times article. when she says that she heard him like. close the door when he left, but then. later on we're going to hear that she. saw him grab his necklace and put it. around his like okay, so did you see him. or did you just hear him close the door? You have to go back to the beginning. when you do an investigation.
because so much transpires and you have. so much more information. We're 6 months. removed and we have so much more. information at our fingertips and it's. time that we go back to the beginning. and we recognize. that this isn't right. This is not right. And guess what? Andrew Kolb is going growing. increasingly angry which I think is. another sign that we are getting very. close. He was really angry. You could tell about Drew Ski, a. comedian who dropped a video about Erica.
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and you're lying and when you're. planning something is that you always. plan things too perfectly, right? It's. too perfect. It doesn't account for. humanity. That was what. I initially started recognizing was. wrong with Erica and her responses. It's. so perfect. She just found the courage. to. forgive someone who hadn't even pled. guilty, hadn't even entered in a plea of. guilty. But she forgave him, didn't want. to hear anything I had to say. I forgave. him, it's over. That's so perfect. She. gets to the hospital and what's the.
story they tell? Well, she just took a. page out of Jackie Kennedy's book when. Jackie Kennedy didn't take off her her. blood-soaked outfit and she said she. wanted people to see what they done did. to her husband. That's exactly almost. repeating what Erica said that she said. when she got to the hospital, right? I. want to see what they did to my husband. It's like they planned for everything to. be so profound, right? So profound and. guess what? That's not how human beings operate. You're a mess.
Right? We're just we're we're we're. sloppy, we're messy. Um you're angry. They forgot to account. for real human emotions when they. planned what feels like an an AI. response. They forgot that they. shouldn't be like joyful at a memorial, geofencing people. Maybe not now. Right? Hey, maybe not doing the Zoom. call. couple days after maybe maybe not New. York I don't think a a widow would do. that. People recognize all across the. world that something's not right with.
Erica Kirk and your your best guess if. you if you were. I mean just trying to extend the most. rope to her, you would say. maybe she didn't love him. Maybe she didn't love him. She didn't. even like the guy. They're fighting in. the end and that's why she's just like. okay, whatever. I don't care. We were we. were on the rocks or something like. that. Uh but even if you were a friend of his, you'd be reacting differently. Everything's wrong. And that is why. comedians have picked it up. Comedians. like Tim Dillon, comedians like Joe. Rogan, and like Drew Ski who has dropped.
an absolute viral video kind of mocking. more broadly uh conservative women uh. and sort of I look I I kind of picked up. on it this year, too, so I'm going to. back him up here. But this sort of. Christian grift, but it's it it doesn't. really feel like Christianity that we're. looking at. Anyway, let me not do him it would be a. total lack of justice for me to try to. explain to you the video. I'm sure. you've seen it, it's been everywhere. Here is Drew Ski Drew Ski uh mocking.
conservative women, namely Erica Kirk. Get on your feet for. War is raging in Iran. >> We're praying. We're praying for all the. soldiers and troops. >> It's great that you're praying, but. >> How about all the kids that died when. the USA hit the the towers? It broke my. heart. That is the uh In what ways have. you grown closer to Jesus? I serve a.
righteous God. And that is why we say our prayers. And we are all his children. But when I say children, I mean like the. Holy Blessed Trinity, which is why I. hold the Bible. >> [music].
>> We have to protect all men in America. Especially all white men in America. So. good. Those are the boys that we care. about in this country. America is built on their backs. Yes. Cuz they are the ones. who matter [laughter] most. >> [gasps]. >> Okay, that black guy like didn't say a. single word and it was so just takes.
away the entire scene. Just perfect. faces that he's making behind him. This is how everybody's feeling. Everybody for the first time it's not. left or right. It's like everyone's. united in feeling this. It feels fake. It feels wrong. It's Tim. Dillon called it out early. It feels. like they just want our money and. they're just going to keep saying the. Lord and God and God and the Lord so we. can't question things. because it would just be oh my God, it. would be demonic as they always say. It's demonic. It's evil. How dare you. question a grieving widow? Like they. were are trying to use this idea of.
Christianity as a shield and I was. hinting on that again removing. uh Erica Kirk from the scenario, it was. I was noticing all of these women that. make videos, they're just catty. They're. just influencers, but they try to find a. Bible verse. It's like, "I'm not. actually I'm This is a Bible verse and I. can tell you why I don't I'm not It's. not that I dislike this person. I'm just. objectively telling you why you should. dislike this person, but I'm using a. Bible verse." Stop doing that. Just stop. doing that. It's inauthentic, and people. are seeing this for what it is. And I'm.
glad that this has gone absolutely. viral, uh and some of the responses have. been amazing. First and foremost, Grok, who. apparently didn't wear his glasses. today, and he accidentally. >> [laughter and gasps]. >> So, it was Grok, who is this? And Grok. replied and said, "That's Erica Kirk.". Oh, the actress and comedian starring in. Juicy Satirical Skits. So, he thinks. Erica Kirk starred in the skit, which is. hilarious. So, very, very funny. Um and then you can, of course, expect.
all of the Israel Firsters who have been. defending her, which has been very. weird. Immediately that the Israel Firsters are. defending her, another clue, another. data point. Uh they were going to be upset. Ted Cruz. tweeted that this was beneath contempt. Whenever you are describing a comedian. as beneath contempt, you're probably. losing. Yeah, it's funny. It's objectively. funny. And I have always had this. stance, by the way. And but, the. pettiest person who came in,
person who was most upset by this, is Andrew Kolb. Look what Andrew Kolb. commented. "Now do conservative black. women.". Guys, I think he's referring to me. I think. he's referring to me. I don't know, but. I feel like he is referring to me. Jurski, you have my permission if you. want to do a skit about me, that works. Andrew, why are you so mad? Why are you so mad? Now do conservative. black women. What are you talking about? I've been made fun of by the left since.
I started my career. Like, are you I've. been on Saturday Night Live, they made. fun of me. I Dave Chappelle did a skit. about me. My response was, "This is. funny. It's It's cool. It's legendary. that Dave Chappelle knows my name.". You want to know why you're mad? Cuz. you're guilty. Your conscience is bothering you. You're. angry that you have so much money. You. guys have so much money, so much. influence, so much power, power to the. White House. You can get Scott Bessent. to issue a letter. and say, "Turning Point is in great. financial standing." Imagine having that.
much power, but actually no influence. That many resources, but. that spend it on these influencer. Everyone can see it's inorganic because. we're all feeling the same about Erica. Kirk. He's big mad cuz he's getting exposed, and the walls are closing in. I That's. That's my opinion. And one area of. interest, by the way, which I want you. guys to pay attention to cuz I think. this could be something, and I'll. briefly run you through it, but. obviously Fort Huachuca. Like I said at.
the top, it was very obvious that this. was a trigger. Andrew was feeding. information to like obscure podcasters. trying to get them to attack us over. Fort Huachuca, as opposed to them being. like interested. Again, they keep. forgetting how we're supposed to act. Like, you should reach out to me and be. like, "Hey, saw your podcast, Candace. They think they saw Brian Harpool. That's crazy. Can you just like connect me so I can. see if he was there?" No, they're like, "Attack her! They're all crazy. Some fort." Said. Andrew. "What fort? Some fort. Erica. wasn't at some fort." Well, what was.
Mitch's story? Uh the the substance of it was that he. saw Brian Harpool at Fort Huachuca. He. felt he he was almost certain he saw. Brian Harpool in a um meeting that was. concluding on September 9th, the day. before Charlie was assassinated early in. the morning. Erica then uh uh. denied that story uh pretty. aggressively, I would say. That was when. That's what began the tour that led to. the infamous stop just stop moment. It's. like they sent her out there to say, "Everyone just stop when we mention Fort.
Huachuca.". Well, Baron Coleman has a source who I. have since confirmed to alert him. alerted him to the fact that there was. another plane that's associated with. Turning Point USA that is. familiar with Fort Huachuca. And the. kind of the the notes here are that on. September 10th, when Charlie was. assassinated, this plane flew in. uh the evening after Charlie's. assassination. So, they flew it in the. evening from Chicago. And then, after Charlie's assassination. on October 4th, that plane was in Fort.
Huachuca all day before it headed up to. Kalispell, Montana, which was. a. stop a familiar stop for the planes that. were going from Texas that day. Very. strange that Kalispell, Montana, Arizona, uh there just seemed to be a pattern in. where these planes were going. And so, Baron is is starting to press the brakes. on wanting to figure out whose plane. this is. And I always want to share. information because, you know, somebody. out there might know something. And so,
here is Baron Coleman just uh. explaining exactly what it is that he. discovered very quickly. This was a plane I was told from a TPUSA. insider is frequently used by TPUSA. I was going through their stuff, and I. just wanted to look around the September. 10th time frame. Because September 10th, this is the. flight that I'm pretty sure. had someone related to the Charlie Kirk. takedown. This is September 10th, Chicago to Provo. It had previously been in Pierre.
My guess is that Pierre to Chicago. flight was a repositioning flight. It left Pierre, South Dakota, at 2:40. p.m. It landed in Chicago at 4:06 p.m. Less than an hour later, it it left for. Provo. Presumably, I presume, with. Charlie Kirk's parents, but I I can't. state that with any degree of certainty, but I think so. I think so. Regardless, it was a TPUSA leg of this flight. And. so, I start looking through here, and I.
start seeing stops that are pretty. consistently. TPUSA. And then I get to this weird. flight here. This is Fort Huachuca. Atlanta to Fort Huachuca. It lands at. 9:33. a.m. And it's there all day. It does not. leave until 4:39 p.m.
Why is a plane. frequently I don't want to say. exclusively used by TPUSA, but I want to. say frequently used by TPUSA. Why is a plane. used by TPUSA. going to Fort Huachuca? The plane we. were looking at went to Fort Huachuca. The new plane went to Fort Huachuca on. October 4th, and then went to Kalispell. I am in the process of trying to figure. out what the hell's going on in. Kalispell.
But the reason Kalispell draws my. attention is it's in Montana. Kalispell is in Montana. It was in Montana. after going to Fort Huachuca on October. 4th. It was the following day, October 5th, when the security team, including Butch. Hibbs, for some reason, random. preacher's brother, is also there with them.
I have I cannot put out of my head that. there's a connection here. I just cannot. get out of my head that there's a. connection. There was a flight from Kalispell to. Bozeman. Bozeman is where the guys met. up to go to Fairy Lake. the following day. So, if you believe, as I do, that TPUSA. people were on that flight that went to. Fort Huachuca, and then went to Kalispell, there was a flight a private plane. flight that went from Kalispell to. Bozeman the next day.
That's the day when everybody showed up, and they had their security team retreat. or something. I don't know what it was. Debrief? I don't know what they were. doing there. So, I do want to issue just one. correction to what he said. Definitively, Charlie's parents were not. on that plane because uh J.D. Vance sent. the Air Force 2 to pick up Charlie's. parents. And so, Charlie's parents were. definitively picked up uh by the Vice. President's uh plane on that day, and. then taken over. So, uh was somebody.
else coming from Chicago that day where. they sent the plane? It does seem to be. that this plane is could be It's uh I. shouldn't say definitively, but it's. plausible that this plane is attached to. their security apparatus. And so, that's. interesting. I show that only because in. case you know any information about that. tail number, uh what was that? Could you. uh just so I can say that again? What. was the tail number? N28. 9. MM. I got to just see that again. Um. then you should definitely email Baron. Coleman. You can also email us at. moretips@candaceowens.com.
If you freeze it, I can see that. If you. just want to bring up that screen and. not play it. I think it He shows it. right away. Um I just want to make sure. I get that tail number right. Or have one of you guys tell me what. that tail number is. I don't I didn't. write this down for some reason. Cool. Okay, I was really wrong. N582MM. is that tail number. Okay. Um anyways, you guys, uh a lot going on. Uh. I should also mention that the Egyptian. planes are back in town in Provo, just. in time for Brigitte to be back in town.
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speak to people. Obviously, like I said, um truth just doesn't fear introspect. like it to be inspected. You can just go. sit down, do a podcast, speak to people, answer questions, put things to bed. It's and and people can see the money. they're spending, right? People don't. like feeling. as though there are others in the world. who think that they can simply pay to. edit their opinions. Right? They don't. have to face up anything, they don't. have to speak to anybody. I'm just going. to pay a bunch of influencers to say.
something and to attack anybody who. criticizes somebody. There's something. very like let them eat cake about that, right? Let them eat cake. We're not. going to I'm not going to come down and. speak to anybody. We're just going to uh. pay for aggressive PR campaigns that. every single day. I mean, the attacks on. Andrew It's so crazy. It is just I you. can't I can't even blink and there's. another attack. First, they started with. like I was so in love. I I retweeted one. of these today. I was so in love with Charlie Kirk and. that's why I'm just so angry because he. picked Erica. Yesterday, they were. really saying I was lesbian. So, like,
oh, okay, it can't be both, guys. It. can't be both. Was I actually in love. with Erica? Was I sad that that that. Charlie got Erica? Like, they're they. have no argument anymore. They just. smear, they just name call Rabbi. Wolicki. I mean, their attacks about. against Joe Kent, it's so obvious that. was a campaign that's calling him a. traitor because they're so angry that a. text message got out and Andrew believes. that. Joe he gave it to Joe Kent and maybe Joe. Kent sent it around to other people and. it made the rounds, but Andrew told. everybody about that text message. Everybody, including myself, about the. text message. So, they're just angry.
that they're not in control of the. narrative, and the only way they're ever. going to get back in control of. narrative. is tell the truth. Just tell the truth. People can handle that. They can handle. you sitting down and telling them the. truth about something, unless there's a. huge reason you don't want to do that. And I think there is a huge reason that. you guys don't want to do that. Right? I think this entire situation. stinks to high heaven. Uh DBR or DB5 wrote, "WTF, Stacy. Sheridan lives in the same complex as. Charlie and Erica. That is super weird.
More and more it seems like they were. all working to smother Charlie and make. sure he was closely watched and. handled." Yeah, she does, and I find it. to be very weird and very creepy. Uh. Mikey McCoy, I don't know if he has a. place there, him and Elizabeth, but they. are there all the time because I I have. sources that live in the building, obviously. Uh like every single day they. are there, and uh they are working they. all work in like a the community center. there, and everyone finds it to be very. creepy. It's like, what is this kid. who's like, what, 22 years old, uh just. kind of slid right into Charlie's chair. right after and was doing interviews.
from his office? Like, what wife would. even want that kid in her husband's. office doing interviews, moving things. around, right? Moving things around in. the office. That's insane to me. And that that she would provide him that. access. Again, the behavior is what. people are noticing is not normal. It is. the the reaction and the behavior is not. tracking with a grieving widow, and you. can't just pay neocons to attack us. uh to to change our understanding that. the circumstance is odd.
Right? Everything that's happening is. very odd. Okay, uh questions from. today's episode questions and comments, pardon me. Kelly Martin writes, "I miss not knowing. who Erica Kirk was." Uh yeah. Flame of love caramel writes, "Catholics. for Candace. Thank you so much." Uh. James the least writes, "Baron Coleman. crash out should be a regular feature of. the show." I know, they're so good. He. just has these little crash outs. But I feel him when he has it. Me on the. inside trying to stay calm. Cheryl. writes, "Remember when Charlie was so. excited and South when South Park did.
him?" That's so true. Charlie celebrated. that um and made fun of it because he. wasn't doing anything wrong. It's so. it's like, "Okay, you noticed and you're. making fun of me, and great, I'm now in. the it's mainstream. I've become. mainstream." And that was his. perspective. You know, they're angry. because there's something there that. they recognize to be very true. And they also feel like they're not. getting their bang for their PR buck. How could this be? We spent so much. money on the uh hate Candace and uh hate. Joe Kent and hate uh everybody else.
who's telling the truth about Charlie's. opinions or whatever or people that are. just meaningfully trying to investigate, like Joe Kent. Crazy. Cameron Byer writes, "I just knew. Candace would say something about. Drewski sending love and aloha to. everyone from Hawaii." Uh aloha. Uh. UFO writes, "Andrew Kolb at hahaha.". Yeah, he's big mad. Go after black. conservatives. Who's he talking about? Just say it. I want Andrew to just come on the show, man.
I just want him to come on the show. They're never going to come on the show. Rabbi's not going to come on the show. They all want to smear me and say things. about me. Nobody wants to come on the. show and discuss these things with me. If you believed it, if you believed I. got something wrong, and I may have. along the way. But guess what? If I get. something wrong, I will change it. I. will say, "Upon more information, I. realized that the theory that I put out. is not correct." Um and here is how I. know. I'm happy to make those edits. So, why be stressed about what I am saying? If you see me on the show changing. things, like when I got the timeline. wrong with Nick Shirley in the very next.
day, I said, "Oh, Nick Shirley contacted. me." And I changed it. Uh it's because you you can't answer. these questions. It's been 6 months. If you could answer. these questions, you would. And why can't you answer the questions? I I I will leave it at that. I I will. let that be a rhetorical question. Why. can't you come forward and answer all of. these questions and put everything to. bed? And please stop saying cuz it's. going to impact the case. That's. nonsense. The truth is not going to hurt and harm. your case. What flight Andrew took on. September 10th is not going to harm your.
case against Tyler Robinson unless. it's incriminating to somebody else. Creme de la crime writes, "The level of. vitriol I've seen today on socials, attacks from every possible angle they. can think up, shows how close you are. and how low they are willing to go. The. world sees. Never give up. Go, Max." I. know it's been especially insane today. Uh someone put together of this piece of. information, it couldn't have been more. inaccurate that my husband hit. somebody hit-and-run or hit somebody uh.
while he was drunk, and then they pulled. up insurance receipts, and it's just. Oh my gosh. Yeah. No, not that, the. insurance one. Like that was they were trying to. connect it to that. Like it it he got. drunk and he hit a person. she blocked out that person has black. hair and and black eyes, which my. husband does not have. And then they. said, "Oh, and further to that point, here's the person that our husband hit. when he was drunk." I Yeah, I don't I.
don't think you have it. Um. but whatever, I didn't I didn't give it. to you. It was the whole piece, whatever. We'll show it next week, but. they showed an insurance claim that. somebody made for $6,000 and was like, "This must be the person that they. harmed." Please reach out to that. person. If you believe in your heart of. hearts that my husband struck somebody. on the side of the road. and we're we've been hiding that, and. then we gave him $6,000 and he went. away. Please find that. Please find that. victim. People are just so dumb on the internet, but you're right, the attacks have been. coming in every different direction, and. it's been insane. Uh Shy Town writes,
"Candace and Baron are American heroes. Absolutely phenomenal investigating. Thank you both and all of the sleuths at. home working hard to bring you tips. The. truth will prevail. Christ is king." Uh. Seven Sheets writes, "Do we know who. Charlie was staring at before his last. in-home interview? That is what betrayal. looks like to me. It's heartbreaking. Charlie deserves better." I have a. suspicion that uh Notorious I don't. think we have it, but Charlie's looking. to the side right before he goes live. with Laura Ingram. Uh based on what. Frank Turek said, I think he's looking. at Frank Turek.
And I am working on a tip that somebody. told me that Frank Turek changed his. schedule. Um he was supposed to have an. appointment somewhere else, and he. changed it last second, and I mean, like. in another state. And I'd always. wondered why Frank Turek was in. Scottsdale. on September 8th. I wonder what he was. doing. Is it a frequent stop for him? I. think not. He said he goes like once or. twice a year. Why then? Why traveling. with Charlie? Um. but it would be very interesting if. Frank was not supposed to be there, and. then he was. Again, I'm working on that tip, so that. it might not prove fruitful, but it.
would show which I have suspected is. that something was going on with Charlie. personally, um with Charlie and Erica personally, and rabbis and priests were praying, not. because Charlie was worried about his. tour or worried about a Jezebel article. that went up. That's just not who. Charlie was. He had a good sense of. humor, especially when it came to people. that were just frankly loony. Uh, so we're not being told the truth. about that, but we haven't been told the. truth about anything, but we're getting. close to the truth. And we know we're getting close to the. truth because. the attacks don't stop. The attacks do not stop. If they were.
not guilty, they would have no issue, like I said, coming here. Invitation is always open to the rabbi, to Andrew Kolvets, to Blake Neff, to Laura Loomer. She wants to come on. and explain with all the proof and the. facts that she has, uh, that Tyler Robinson is guilty even. though he hasn't even entered in a plea. We haven't had his arraignment, guys. How are we saying Tyler Robinson did it? That you're just saying that you believe. in guilty before proven innocent. That. if the state can drum up charges against.
you, we don't even need to hear from the. person. who might very well enter a not guilty. plea. We don't even need to hear from it. because the police said that he's the. guy. That is a guilty before proven. innocent society, and it stands in stark. contrast to everything that Charlie Kirk. believed in. That's why people are asking them to. just shut her Charlie's channel. Just. shut her the channel, right? You you. cannot just keep his show going on where. you're just representing the opposite of.
his every principle, including his. shifting perspective, which had shifted. completely before he died on Israel. You. guys just didn't want to deal with. another Tucker Carlson or a Megan Kelly. or a Candace Owens when we see how you. behave. And we realize. no, you're not you're not innocent. victims. You're kind of the opposite. You kind of gangstalk people. You don't. leave people alone. And it's because. you're using tactics of like black. psychology. You know, you're trying to. psychiatrically break somebody down, psychologically break somebody down,
uh, with lies and smears and libels and. going after their sponsors. That has. been their black magic trick of the last. century. They believe in psychology. There's enough of us and we just swarm. them like a beehive and tell a bunch of. lies that will eventually break. And. what's actually happening is the. opposite thing. We're getting stronger. We're proving to be resistant. We are. like a resistant strain. And also, you. harm yourself in the process because. nobody believes you. You lie so much.
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