TRENDING! I Send Out Some Legal Letters. Victor Marx's Bizarre Text To Erika Goes Viral. | Ep 342

All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday. I. know some people are not feeling too. happy today because Thomas Massie lost. in Kentucky. A lot of people are asking, "What is What's going on with our. country? Is this it? Can you just buy. whatever you want?". But I I'm going to be positive here. I'm. going to say, "Look up." Right? It does. not mean everything. Uh we are obviously. plugged in. We see what is going on. Uh. we are. also watching them tip into that unique. phase of sheer arrogance. There's this. sheer arrogance right now of the Epstein.

class. That's what they are. They are. the Epstein class. They have They. believe they have more money than God, right? They think their money can buy. whatever they want, anything and. everything. Their money can cover up. murders and rapes. I'll tell you guys this though. I I've. been around. I've just seen these cycles. in politics, the way Trump is speaking. I am MAGA. I'm a king. I I know what. we're looking at. Uh it's a. not-so-unique moment when Icarus flies a. little too close to the sun.

And I know what happens after that. So, just relax. Wait. Get ready. You know, let's wait for midterms. Let's see what. the king of MAGA can buy with his money. Anyway, the fallout from Victor Marx's. interview yesterday is trending all. across social media, and it inspired me. to send out a few preservation letters. in my ongoing lawsuit with Bryan. Harpold. Welcome back to Candace.

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much time as we wanted to Victor Mark. yesterday. Go ahead, go for it, buddy. Gubernatorial candidate to Colorado. And. it was really something for a lot of. reasons. I mean, as many of you. commented, rarely do we get to see that. sort of arrogance on display. There are. a lot of little Icarus birdies flying. around in America. Just a complete lack of self-awareness, believing that you are untouchable, that. you've graduated to some class. of people that are do whatever they want.

and face no consequences. Also, as a side note, sort of incredible. to see how many people he had, Victor. Mark had on his team, helping him out. with that interview. He took to X. afterward and posted this little shot. Hey everybody, Victor Mark here. I just. finished a podcast with Candace Owens. that I think will never be forgotten. I. want to appreciate my team here. >> [applause]. >> You know, look, I always say truth will.

prevail and and it did today. I'm not. mad at Candace. I don't have any anger. toward her. Uh there was a couple of times I was. passionate in it because I am about. protecting kids and Charlie's death. What I would say is for those of you who. said Victor doesn't debate, that was a. 1-hour no moderator debate. That's what. I've always told those other candidates. Yeah, let's get face-to-face. Uh look, all of this has started only. because I entered into the political.

realm. Period. And uh and because I'm. winning the governor's race. So, thank. you all for your prayers. It mattered. and made a difference. We love you all. Indeed it did, Victor. I think it did. make a difference and I do believe that. truth prevails. So, we can agree on that. in the end. So, what really got people up in arms. yesterday, if you did not have time to. watch it, it really I would say it could. boil down to to two things. First was. the excuse that he offered, which included irrelevant social media.

posting statistics for why it was that. Victor Marx was seemingly the first. person in Charlie's orbit. to announce that Charlie had passed. away. Remember, he told us that this declaration was. completely stand-alone. He didn't even. he hardly watched the footage of Charlie. getting shot. He said he watched it one. time, but then for some reason over an. hour and 20 minutes later, he decided to. formally announce that Charlie Kirk had. passed away and to pray for Erica and.

the kids. And he said he did this absent. any confirmation, just vibes that he got. from the special forces guys around him. with knowledge about injuries. Somehow. he felt that that was enough information. for him to fire up Instagram and report. it to the world that Charlie Kirk did. not make it. Take a listen to what he. told me. It's important. Obviously, a big question that we have. had is you were first to post a video. that was later on removed saying that. Charlie had passed and this video was.

about an hour and 20 minutes before the. president's announcement. It would have been. to the. to the minutes about the time that his. family found out that he had passed away. or people that were at the hospital had. found out that he had passed away. So, do you. you explain how you found that out and. and why you chose to remove the video? Well, yeah, I I'm first interested to. find out why y'all think I was the first. or one of the first, you know, to to do that because.

I mean, a rough estimate, there's. between 1 to 3 million pieces of social. media content that are produced every. second worldwide. And you know, my team looked it up. If. there's 180 million posts per minute. And let's just say the first 30 minutes, we're talking 5. 4 billion posts in 30 minutes. How could. y'all narrow it down? What type of. technology.

could y'all do to narrow down that I was. one of the first ones to post that he. had passed? Let's uh let's put it in a. context that's easier. Uh the first. person in Charlie's orbit um that. announced that information when we put. it down to the minute, it was when Erica. found out that Charlie was had passed. away. So, I was wondering how how that. was. >> Okay. I I had someone text me. and he said, "My son. is at Charlie's event and Charlie was.

just shot. Mhm. Uh and it doesn't look. good. Um we went on it. I watched Charlie. being shot one time. And my team. uh many who are former special. operations guys in combat minutes, lots. of experience, they viewed it multiple. times cuz I wouldn't. And they said. Charlie. they said Charlie wouldn't live from. that. And I. I knew it the first I knew the only time. I saw it, I knew there's no way he could.

have survived that. And. when I made a post and said, you know, "Charlie's passed." Of course, I know Frank Turek, I know the security. teams. I put it up. and then I didn't see anybody else. posting it. I thought it was premature. and I I pulled it down. cuz it just felt wrong that I would post. it. But it I wanted people to pray.

Yeah. I don't believe that for even 1 second. because. common sense. That's the thing that I suffer from. I. know how many people at home, you guys. also suffer from this chronic condition. in today's world. Common sense, Victor. You just said you're friends with Frank. Turek. You're friends with friends with the. security guys. You told us elsewhere in. the interview that Eileen and Erica, they got so close because. well, your wife, your bride, mentors. Erica, right?

You were so close to Charlie's security. apparatus, in fact, that you were able. to swiftly coordinate taking over for. them a mere 48 hours later in Phoenix, remember? Yeah, you said, "Oh, you know, they were tired, they were stressed.". So, you guys came in and your team took. over the security apparatus. So, we can. bet, I think, confidently place a bet, that you didn't sit there texting nobody. for an hour. And then moving to simply guess that. Charlie was dead. You were just sitting.

there twiddling your thumbs. You had all. these contacts with people on the inner. circle and say, "I'm just. I'm going to wait 50 minutes and then. I'm going to announce to the world that. Charlie's dead." That defies logic. I. don't like when people expect me to be. stupid and that expects me to be stupid. Is how it works. Is that when you know people, when. you're in the inner orbit, you utilize. those resources to get information. You. don't stand back and guess with the rest. of the world. Kind of like how I was. texting Andrew Colbath. Because why.

would I stand back and guess Charlie's. condition when I know the people. directly involved who can provide me. with real information. Nobody would do. that, Victor. You text people you know. I know Frank. Turek. I know the security teams. That's. what you said, right? You text those. people for information. And the obvious, sensible message to send initially. is is Charlie okay? What's going on? What's happening? OMG, I just saw the. news. Is he okay?

Now, if for some reason you opted not to. do that, Victor, and you simply twiddled. your thumbs for 50 minutes and then. ventured a guess. that he was dead and decided to post a. selfie video? Then that is extraordinary. That is to. me. extraordinarily suspicious. Okay? Here's. what a normal text message exchange. should look like between somebody who. had no idea that their friend was going. to be shot. on September 10th.

and had access to people who could. provide immediate updates as to what. their friend's condition was. Okay? Here. is a text exchange between me and Andrew. Colbath on that day. "Please say he's okay." I wrote. "I. don't know. Pray.". "Shot for sure." Andrew writes back. I. said, "We just prayed before I texted. Any details on where he was shot? I am. freaking out." He says, "In the neck. head area.". I said, "I saw the footage. I cannot. deal with this.".

Do you see the problem here, Victor? You're saying that you didn't do that. You didn't do that. You didn't text for. an update. You had no idea what was. going on. You just were sitting around. Wife didn't text. You just sitting. around and you and you tear all. Fonzworth it. Right? You decided for an. hour to do nothing until it was time to. record yourself. You texted nobody that. you had access to and then you randomly. hopped onto Instagram in selfie mode to. declare to the world that Charlie was. dead prematurely absent any intel. I.

don't believe that for one second. That. story has about as much credibility with. me as a three-year-old beheading a cat. and wearing it on his head. I actually would rank the three-year-old. beheading the cat and wearing it on his. head as more likely. That registers to. me as. less fiction than the story that you are. telling that you're that you're telling. me that I'm supposed to believe to have. transpired on that day. So then I'm forced to ask myself,

Victor, why would you say it? Why would you say it? It's so easy to. instead say, "Well, reason why I was I was the first to text. it 15 minutes later, which is about the. time Erica found out, uh well, me and my. bride, you know, we're close to Erica.". That's what you could say. We were close. to Erica. We were in that inner sanctum, and we found out. Well, I don't know, maybe we messaged Andrew Colbath. We. messaged the security team. That. wouldn't be weird, right? Actually, Frank Chirico and the security team. should have been the first to know that. Charlie was dead. They took him to the. hospital.

So, why instead try to sell it to the public. that you took a random shot in the dark? Now, if I had to guess, I would say it's. because you're protecting someone. Who. is that someone? Maybe you're protecting something. What is that something? The good news is that I actually don't. have to guess because I'm currently. being sued by Brian Harpole, head of Charlie's security team. And since you mentioned that you were in. communication with the security team, so.

much so that you were able to relieve. them. of their duty, that's what you said elsewhere in the. interview. You took over the security apparatus. That's why you were with Erica and were. able to hug her and Eileen were able to. provide such relief to the team. They were tired. They were traumatized. Um I imagine that took some some. communication. Your communications with the security. team during those critical hours might. be relevant to my lawsuit. Maybe Brian. or Dan communicated to you that they. felt that they didn't do all that they.

could do. And that's why they were traumatized. I. don't know. I really don't know, Victor, but I'm going to need to find out. because I'm being sued for defamation, which is why we sent earlier today. Victor Mark's legal preservation letter. And I hope that we can get to the bottom. of what actually transpired on that day. And I think Victor might be able to. help. Right? Because he did in fact say this. And then you were among the first to.

post um you know, obviously you and your. wife, actually maybe it was actually. just you in the first 2 days that went. uh to Erica and Charlie's place to. provide her. um some comfort. So, you were quite close to Erica. Uh we brought our team uh immediately. uh to help give relief for the first. security team who I knew, who I was in. contact with, and they were suffering. trauma and exhaustion. They didn't have.

a secondary. So, yeah, we went there. Uh. course my bride was with me. Uh her and. Erica are very very close. And we were just standing by to bring. comfort or help. The number one need. they had, and we felt like it and we. were asked to is to provide security uh. to give relief. So, that's what we did. That's very kind of you. I'm interested in learning more about. that uh through the power of subpoena. Uh and frankly, Victor's subsequent.

admission regarding what he texted Erica. while she was at the hospital raised. even more eyebrows online because here. is what he said. Uh and then I contacted Erica through a. text and told her. I was just telling her. nobody's going to kill you. You're safe, you and the kids. No one's coming after you. They just. wanted Charlie. And I was just trying to reassure.

because as a. >> you declared he was dead on the basis of. people saying it didn't look good. On the basis of. people. myself included who've had. held dead and dying men from combat. in horrible situations. And anybody. who saw the killing and has that. experience, no, we knew he was dead instantly. Yeah.

Something's not adding up. Didn't text. to see if he was alive, but then. suddenly said he you're totally good. They only wanted to kill Charlie. Who's. they? Who is they? They only wanted to. kill Charlie. You and the children are. fine. How could you say that? Would that. be your first text to a widow? I don't I don't feel like that's the. first text to the widow. I we're missing something. And hopefully we can start to put the. puzzle pieces together because we also. sent out some more preservation letters. I also sent one to Paramount not so. tactical. I am willing to get into the.

weeds here. It is odd. Everything they. are saying is odd. Everyone around Erica. is just odd. Right? Who would say those things? Who. would text her. not to see if their husband is dead or. alive, obscene, but then swoop in to. say, "They only wanted to kill Charlie. You're all good.". No. And there's something else that I. learned that I hadn't shared. I actually. learned this some time ago, but today. feels like a good time to do so.

And let me preface this. with the fact that this came from Erica. So, it is of course plausible, always. possible, that she lied. Uh but I can. confirm that she said it to multiple. people. Not to me, but to multiple people. I have evidence of that. In the weeks following uh Charlie's. assassination, she shared with people. that Charlie and her were due to sign. updated end-of-life documents.

on September 15th. Let me say that again. Charlie and her had an appointment and a. date to sign updated end-of-life. documents on September 15th, the Monday. after he died. That is remarkable timing. That Charlie. was just about to update his his will, but then he didn't make it to Monday. Like I said, I trust the sources on this.

one. So, how are we to interpret that? Okay, we have we have two options here. Neither one of them is particularly a. positive outcome for Erica, I might add. Option one is that Erica was lying when. she shared this information, okay? Perhaps, that's totally plausible. She. said it out of insecurity, feeling that. people might wonder why she was taking. over his entire company. Right? But. remarkably, despite having the ability. to.

present that in his will, a corporate. will, his personal will, to say I. express this is my desire, Charlie. hadn't particularly documented that. desire, or else we would have been told. that. So, this would sort of rank. similar to her telling Megan Kelly. that Charlie had only just expressed an. aspirin three weeks before his untimely. death. But he was abandoning his 10-year. publicly expressed desire for women to. prioritize their home life and their. children above climbing the corporate. ladder. It was, in my opinion, not.

something. that he actually said outside of AI. tools, but something that they thought. they would have to pretend he said to. assuage public questions and concern. about the seemingly contrary move. So, that's not an option. There's an. option that she just said that to. someone in the same vein. Oh, you're. probably wondering why I'm taking over. his whole life here, why I'm going to be. on that Air Force board, and why I'm. going to be um giving speeches and going. on tour and being the CEO and chairman.

Well, Charlie it was crazy timing. Charlie was actually just about. to uh update his end-of-life documents. to reflect his brand new feminist. desires that he had come on very quickly. 3 weeks before his untimely passing. Alas. Right, that's an option. That's an. option. She just lied. Option two. is that Erica is not lying. And that Charlie and her did indeed have. an upcoming appointment on September.

15th to adjust his will and testament. Then the question becomes to what end. and why? Okay? You don't just update. your will for funsies. Right, that's not. how it works. If you don't have a will, I'll tell you. you just don't do that. It's a lot of. paperwork, especially for somebody as. fly high as Charlie Kirk. Especially if. you're saying you're going in and you. had an appointment to do it. That's. you're This is not a a little update. that's happening. There are life events,

right? Every time I have a child, you. have to add a kid to your will, okay? So. they already get it. We're going to. divide this amongst the children. There's one more kid. That gets done via. email. When you are going in to do an. update, there has to be a life event. that warrants that sort of a change. Example, you hit the lottery. Oh, we hit. the lottery. We've got billions. Let's. get into that office and update our will. and testament. Okay? Uh. maybe you would do it if you completely.

decided to to switch who you were doing. your life insurance with for some. reason. Maybe you got a better deal. I. don't know. That might be Generally. speaking, another reason that you were. going in to change your will. It It. signals that there was a major shift in. your personal life. So the question. the necessary follow-up question, if. Erica is telling the truth, is what was. this life-changing event? What What was the reason that Erica and.

Charlie were just about to go in on the. 15th to update his end-of-life. documents, okay? There was no new kid. There which again would not require you. to go in in most circumstances. Could be. different in Arizona. Uh. what what's the change? And lest we forget, he already had. Charlie already had a. corporate life insurance policy which. included, I am told, a $10 million. payout for Erica and the children. He. could have listed uh desires, uh his.

corporate will, his personal will. If. you wanted Erica to become the CEO and. chairman since everybody is telling the. Daily Mail, he said it so many times. Oh, it doesn't even matter. Doesn't even. matter if that video exists or if I. think it's we're getting ahead of. ourselves. The real thing is that every. time, everywhere, and every place, people had side conversations with him. and he would just mention it. Like just. like it's just uh Charlie, want some. coffee? No, what I actually want is for. my wife to take over my company in the. event that I get shot. That was it. Everyone knows it. It's.

just a known known. Let me tell you guys something. Again, as sufferers of chronic common. sense, in literally every murder mystery ever. in real life and within the world of. fiction, a will change or a desired will. change on Monday. in the near future. amidst an unexpected death event is. something that investigators typically.

pay attention to. So, investigators, you'd like to reach out to me to receive. the names of the people who Erica. disclosed this information to, I would. be happy and willing to provide it. Anything to assist in the. non-investigation of Charlie Kirk that. is happening from the FBI, the SBI, and. the state of Utah. Let me know how I can. not help. If Erica is telling the truth, I cannot. think of a life event that would have. warranted a change in Charlie's will. There may have been one.

But in the midst of Charlie telling. people that $10 million was missing from. his company, allegedly, in the midst of him establishing a DOJ. internal audit to locate this alleged. $10 million, which was subsequently canceled in the. wake of his death. That audit was. canceled. Why? In the midst of him texting those. closest to him and saying, "They're. going to kill me. Tomorrow I I'm I think I am going to be. killed.".

I am fully within my right to wonder if. he realized that there were a few snakes. in his garden. Who was going to benefit from his death? Did. Charlie actually make the appointment. alone? Actually, that's a possibility, too. Right? Were his communications being. monitored? He tried to carve out an. appointment because he was fearful of. some death event, as he expressed. And did he try to to radically then. shift learning that he had suspected.

somebody was taking money, siphoning. money out of Turning Point USA, that his. life was not what he thought it was? He's asking, "I want Candace back." Why? Why does he want Candace back? Because I told him not to trust any of. those people. All of the people that the. world now sees are the snakes that were. in Charlie's garden. I saw them first, and I warned Charlie about those people. So, what happened? Were they monitoring? I think they were. I I believe I know everyone had access. to everything. Andrew Kolb was running. his Twitter. Uh Mikey had his laptop. I mean,

everybody did have access to Charlie's. everything because he was too trusting. Did they find out somehow that he was. going in to change his will? I don't. know, but these are questions that ought. to be asked when the entire narrative. that is currently being presented to us. makes entirely no sense. And when his wife just seems okay with. it making no sense. Actually, you know, just a little adjacent story. A little sidebar here. Remember that grieving widow we told you. about a few months ago? Uh the one in Utah, ironically, who was.

found guilty of murdering her husband. out in. but but like not instantly. Uh Kouri Richins was her name. Her husband died of an overdose. Uh she. then wrote a children's book and went on. a public book tour to promote how to. cope with loss, the loss of a uh with. her grieving children, Are You With Me. by Kouri D. Richins. The media ate that. up. Here is a little. quick clip to jog your memory about. Kouri on tour as the grieving widow.

Parent, a sibling, or friend, talking. about loss with kids can be a tricky. subject. [music] Joining us now is. author of Are You With Me, Kouri. Richins, to share her three C's to. helping kids cope with grief. And Kouri, I want to start with your story. What. happened in your personal life? So, my. husband passed away unexpectedly last. year. So, it's March 4th was a 1-year. anniversary for us, and um he was 39. It. completely.

took us all by shock. Um. and we have three little boys, 10, 9, and 6. And um. you know, we kind of my kids and I kind. of wrote this book on the different. emotions and. >> [sighs]. >> grieving processes that we've. experienced last year. And you know, hoping that it can kind of help other. kids, you know, um. deal with this and kind of, you know, find happiness some some way or another. And to make sense and process, I'm sure.

And I'm sure you felt that going through. and trying to explain it and articulate. it for you and your boys. Yes, exactly. Exactly. A month later, she would be arrested. over a year after her husband had passed. away. And I wanted to mention that. because. changing wills, changing. uh life insurance policy was a huge. piece of the prosecution's case against. her.

See, her husband, uh Eric Richens, also her victim, gratefully and successfully managed to. transfer his entire estate and business. interests into his sister's name. covertly. a few weeks before he passed away, before he was murdered. He. was feeling like someone might kill him, and that someone was his wife. And so, he coordinated with his sister and. transferred everything into her name. His wife had no idea he had done it. shortly before he died, and out of fear.

for figuring out who his wife was. Simultaneously, uh the court heard that. Kouri herself attempted to change the. beneficiary of his corporate life. insurance. so that she would receive it 100% of the. payout. But, she got caught. Both of these changes signaled to the. jury that something was amiss. Eric was terrified of his wife. Like I said, fortunately for Eric, he had people in his orbit and in his.

life that he was actually able to trust. with that information, that he was able. to trust when he said, "I think she's. going to kill me.". Anyway, that's just an aside. I will reiterate my uh my earlier point. that any. attempted or recently accomplished will. changes surrounding an unexpected death. event. should be further investigated. So,

if you'd like to reach out to me, investigators, I'm I'm here and ready to help. I. suspect I won't be hearing from you. And. dare I say, Erica, if you're interested. No, of course not. We'll be right back. after a break. All right, you guys. I used to think. that great skin care had to be. complicated. Like if I wasn't using 10. different products, I wasn't doing. enough. And then I found Nimi's. three-step anti-aging routine and it has. changed everything. It's simple, it's. fast, and my skin has never looked. better. Step one is a vitamin C. cleanser. It leaves my skin feeling. fresh and clean without that dry, tight.

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same time that he thought people were. going to kill him and he wanted to. conduct a DOJ audit. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know, but I'd certainly. like to find out. And something else. that they said that was mentioned, which. was later confirmed by the Daily Mail in. their investigation into the AI video, uh was that a Erica also communicated. that a Turning Point USA board member. was going to be helping them with those. changes. Interestingly enough, you might.

recall from that Daily Mail article that. they said that they spoke to a TPUSA. board member who said that he was. helping with those affairs. I wonder who. that is. I wonder who that is. It's uh probably. one of the people that signed letter. announcing Erica and this is if I'm just. taking a shot in the dark. I would. imagine it was one of the board members. who announced that Erica was going to be. the CEO and the chairman. Um maybe like a Doug DeGroot, like. Miller. I don't know. Like I said, if I was an interested.

investigator, these would be some crumbs that I would. follow. As an update and moving on, I wanted to. let you guys know that I am still being. ghosted by the White House. It's. depressing, really. I've never been. ghosted. Ashley, my producer, has never. been ghosted. This is the first time. It. feels weird. I feel like I was left on red. The White House Correspondents Dinner. communications are very relevant, which. is why we filed an FOIA request. Erica. Kirk written in as an emotional asset.

just over an hour after shots are fired, not concerned about safety, but in. making sure about that video is number. one in the morning, that is not. something that we are going to let go. We need to keep the pressure on Erica. Kirk and Turning Point USA, okay? Because it's working. We are getting. more information. They're making more. foolish decisions. I mean, how. ill-advisable to go to the Daily Mail to. say.

"We're going to host a little private. screening with you." What was it on Zoom. or something? And we're going to show. you how real this video was. It's so. real. We're the victims of the. conspiracies, even though we're the ones. that presented the video. Uh. to tell people that it existed and then. decided to have Erica walk out to just. the audio of it. They just think they're smarter. That's. what Every so many little Icarus birdies. just flying so close to the sun. We've. got power. We've got money. We've got.

Epstein class connections. Uh we could. do whatever we want. We'll see about that. We'll see about. that. I me. vengeance does not belong to me. Nope, not at all. But I've just seen it so. many times, people like this who just. think that they have enough power to be. bad people, to lie, and to dupe the. public. They're not regular. They have. classed up. Okay. Anyway, regarding the White House. Correspondents Dinner, we will keep the countdown going and and.

see how far this goes. I want to provide you guys also with a. very quick update on the Tyler Robinson. case. I think people had some questions. yesterday because there was much ado. about nothing in the press. A ton of. articles being spun out to suggest that. Tyler Robinson wanted to conceal the. evidence from the public. He wants the. evidence sealed from the public. And the. headlines, of course, were not. representing reality. That's why they. don't want, by the way, cameras in the. courtroom. I do. I'm glad there will be. cameras in the courtroom, but this has.

been their fear that the headlines are. not representing reality. And yesterday. was a prime example. This was the. headline of Fox News. Tyler Robinson. hearing the defense advised to restrict. evidence and testimony in the Charlie. Kirk assassination. Uh. AP News. Lawyers for the man accused of. killing Charlie Kirk asked to seal. evidence in parts of a key hearing. Uh NewsNation. Lawyers for the accused. Charlie Kirk shooter seek to seal. evidence in court.

Okay, so let me walk you through what is. actually happening. In short, there is no change. Okay? The preliminary hearing is fast. approaching. We discussed this. The. defense still has not received their. discovery requests. So effectively, uh the state, the victim, Erica Kirk, they want to be able to present during. this preliminary hearing. uh all of this evidence that has not. been provided by the defense. Evidence. that ultimately when they get to the. trial, they may say it's inadmissible.

because it's inadmissible. They can't argue that's inadmissible. right now because they don't have the. means to argue it. So what they are. saying is if we must go through with. this preliminary hearing, if you are. insisting that this has to happen and we. are not going to receive our discovery. requests, then you should seal the quote-unquote. evidence in case it becomes inadmissible. down the line. There's evidence of that. Ashleigh, can you pull that page from. the uh Tyler Robinson's filings where.

they list everything that they're asking. to be sealed and they demonstrate in the. column why they want it sealed. Okay, we we could we could pull it up. later, but they're they're explaining. very carefully, "Hey, we want this sealed, we want this. sealed." Because they're going in with. hearsay evidence. They're they're bringing five officers. to say things. They're going to have. Lance Lance Twiggs as testimony to say. things. We need to be at a a further. place in this. You're going to testify. and show these text messages. You're.

going to show this. You're going to show. that. We don't even know if these text. messages are real. So, what would happen. if they allowed the prosecution to. present those text messages and they. were not under seal? What would happen is exactly what you. just saw. You would have Fox News. You. would have News Nation. You would have. Paramount not so tactical and their. influencer orbit of people saying, "Boo-ya! Boo-ya! See, these messages they are they're in. court. So, now it's real.". They think the public is stupid and that.

they will not be able to sort through. down the line if they think if you're. first across the finish line, if we can. just show this in court, people will. think that it has been vetted and it is. legitimate. And so, they are saying, "Don't give the. media the opportunity to spin something. that may ultimately be proven. inadmissible because it's fraudulent. And and here is. uh the documents that we're going to. pull up here. We can get to that page. that just shows left and right. Um. here's 31. Case in point, the FBI DNA report,

right? The towel, the screwdriver. They. haven't even been able to see this. stuff. They have not They They said they. weren't even able to see the gun. Listed. 32, the ATF ballistics report. Yeah, they want this stuff sealed because. ultimately if they can't actually go. through it and prove that it is. legitimate or understand their methods. for how they presented it, they may down. the line say to the jury, "Never mind. That's inadmissible." So, do not color. the public. Do not color jury with stuff. that down the line may ultimately mean.

nothing. It makes perfect sense. There. is no change. All right, you guys. Uh I do want to. shift gears here. I I do not often weigh in on the podcast. wars, so to speak. I think cuz I'm. usually the one that's at the center of. them. But, there was a clip that went. around yesterday that really or last. week rather that really bothered me. And. it bothered me for two reasons. Um I obviously like Joe Rogan. I am. friends with Theo Von. He's literally. one of the best people that I know. My. children absolutely adore him. I can. tell you that.

He's just exactly what you think he is. Exactly what you get on his show is who. he is and he is like the fun uncle, the. funcle that everybody wants. And I had. seen earlier, I think it was a few. months ago that Joe Rogan had discussed. Theo when he was sitting across from him. and Theo was rightfully venting about. the Epstein class and the pedophile. class and it sort of seemed like Joe. Rogan's response was to treat Theo Von. like a child that was just crazy and. needed to just chill out and it's it's. the way we all feel. We're very. frustrated with the system.

I said okay, whatever. They're just two. guys talking. But then Theo Von was not. in the presence of Joe Rogan and he was. sitting across from someone discussing. Theo Von's SSRI usage and this is what. Joe Rogan said and it it caused quite a. bit of backlash. Take a listen. Yeah, Theo Von's going through the exact. same thing. And last time he was on the. podcast, he was explaining it to me and. it freaks me out because I know Theo has. had conversations before. like even publicly. He had a.

Netflix taping. and it didn't go well. It was like they. actually. never they shelved it. They never used. it. You know, there was all these. stories from people that were there. saying he bombed. I think he just had a. kind of a breakdown. And then he was. talking to the crowd and there's a video. of it where he said, you know, the. people are saying, "Hey, we still love. you." He was saying, "Thank you. Look, I'm just I'm trying not to take my own. life. That's what I'm trying to do right. now." Yeah. And like you hear stuff like. that and you just go like, "Oh, Jesus. Christ." I've known too many people that.

I didn't think were going to kill. themselves and then did. And then he goes down in these spirals. where he starts. talking about world events and freaking. out. I'm like, "Oh, Jesus Christ. Like I. got to help this dude." And so I send. him things about people getting off of. them and apparently there are some. doctors that specialize in getting. people off of them, but. here's the thing about that chemical. imbalance thing, that's not real. They they used to think that that was. what these things do, that they treated.

a chemical imbalance, but then recently. studies have shown that there that is. not what they do. They don't exactly know what they do. And they kind of numb you in some sort. of a way that helps some people. So, to the portion that I very much agree. with Joe Rogan on was just the very end. which didn't require anything about Theo. Von, which is my personal opinion about. the drugs they put people on for. emotional reasons. And I very much have. shared my story of how lucky I was that.

I had a friend in college that when I. went through a breakup and was boohoo. crying and the doctor wrote me a. prescription of Xanax was like, you. don't need Xanax, that's a human. emotion. Why would you want to take. something that's going to stop you from. feeling a human emotion? Nothing's wrong. with you. You turns out you're just. human. And so I get that part of the. conversation. It was just sort of. presenting. as I'm being compassionate by talking. about Theo Von. Like if he actually was. in this dark place and his whole life. was coming apart and he wanted to take. his own his own life, that certainly.

wouldn't be the thing that helped him. That would actually be the thing that. maybe tipped him over the edge, right? And so I looked at that and I said, what. is what is that actually? What are we. doing here. and kind of caging it like you're a. friend and you're concerned when any. person who is concerned and is a friend. would not publicly do something like. that. So, I thought it was really icky. and I was not happy about it. And then I. saw I didn't say anything about him. I'm. only saying something now. because I watched the back and forth. Theo responded to that clip because it.

went viral and people were equally as. like, what is that? And Theo Von. responded and said, this is mostly cap. That's slang by the way. I don't cap. I. don't really know what it means. I'm. he's he's cooler than me. Sad to see. this kind of stuff. I'm doing great. I'm. a human being which is a rocky ride, but. I'm doing fine. Thanks. And yeah, being. a human being is a rocky ride and you. never know the context of what what. somebody is saying to someone whether. they're kidding when they say something. like he told me it was wildly taken out. of context and he was like, "Oh, I'm. trying not to kill myself." And everyone.

got all concerned and so it Yeah, I just. didn't love it. I did not love it and. what I did really love though was that. Joe Rogan did something that he's never. done in the history of his show where he. just recorded him apologizing. And I. don't think it was motivated for selfish. reasons. I really don't. I think I sense. his sincerity in this. I don't think it. was like, "Well, people are all mad at. me." because people have been mad at him. very many times in the past and he's not. apologized in this way. And I just. wanted to play that because very rarely.

in [laughter] the in the podcast space. do you ever see anyone apologize for. anything? There's so much arrogance and. this was cool. So, I'm going to play it. I apologized to Theo. He knows I love him and we he said that. and we we laughed and we joked around. about it and I apologized for the way I. I talked about this, but I felt like I. need to explain to other people, too, to. get. just like what was going on in my mind. out and it certainly wasn't like.

covering for Israel and it certainly. wasn't like trying to paint him out like. he's damaged or. treat him like a child. I just want him. to be okay. And um when you're dealing. with someone or you or when you have. like had experience dealing with someone. that it what where it winds up going. very badly and then you're just left. with this feeling like what could I have. done? You know, I didn't do a good job of it, you know, especially like the Marcus. King thing. Like that's terrible what I. did. I didn't mean to. I was just trying to.

You don't think sometime when you're in. the middle of a podcast, you're just. having a conversation, you don't think. about the impact that it's going to. have. That's one of the reasons why, you. know, podcasts are so weird cuz like you're in. the middle of trying to be entertaining, but you're also just having a. conversation. And uh I up. So, because I felt so badly about it, it was. like there's got to be a way to address. this where I just express myself. And. so, that's why. we've never done this before.

We've never done this kind of a thing. after a podcast, but. Theo's very important to me. He's an. awesome person, a great friend, and one. of the most interesting and funny people. I've ever met in my life. And uh I just. felt terrible about it. And I told him I. would. never bring it up publicly again, but I. think it is important to let people know. that aspect of it. So, I'm going to call him and clear this. with him, make sure he's cool with me. saying this, but I'm pretty sure he's. going to be. And um that's it. So, uh.

I'm a human and I'm flawed like all of. us, and I up, and it's probably not. the last time. It's definitely not I'm. going to up again. But my intention is never to hurt. anybody, ever. Easily the coolest thing I've ever seen. on the Joe Rogan Experience because it. was ex- basically what Theo talked. about. We're all human, we make. mistakes. And he's right, like. especially me. I really do say things. like I am talking to my friends on a. podcast. That's real. You can just kind.

of forget that you're live, and you like. It'd be weird to like Joe Rogan, you're. number one, you should know what you're. saying at all times. Well, he's doing. hours and hours of podcasting, and it is. Sometimes you just forget yourself when. you're deep into a conversation, and you. think you are alone with the person me, I guess, just talking to you guys. And. then I'm like, "Ooh, did I say that?" Uh. I'm I'm thinking of like minor. situations where I've said something, and I'm like, "Gosh, I really didn't. even. recognize that." So, I just think it's a. little like more of that, I think. And. it's just cool to see people resolve.

something in a very human way and I. thought that was a you know just a rare. happy thing that happened in politics. and I thought it was a good thing for me. to end on that since I um. was basically going to breathe fire this. entire episode. So I just need to calm. myself down with a nice story. Anyway, we'll take a brief break and we'll get. to your comments. All right, you guys, you know those days. when you just feel off? As a mom, I've. had plenty of them between juggling. work, family, and everything else. Eating perfectly balanced meals every. day just is not realistic. That's why I.

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that. Top comments from yesterday's. episode regarding Victor Marx. Ballistic. Bud writes, "I'm a veteran, served three. times more than him. We do not stand. with that guy.". Yeah, I remember his like bizarre "It. was 3 years. It was 2 years." This is. like. Talk about just coming across generally. soft and unfit to serve in the armed. forces. That was an example of exactly. that. Um let alone to be in like trying. to lead. an entire state of Colorado. I don't. think that that works if you're that. soft and fragile. Uh Ultraviolet writes,

"I survived Victor Marx." is what most. of us are feeling right now. Yeah, definitely thinking people that say that. they were emotionally abused by him. That's tracking for me. I'm a vibe. person and I feel like the vibes are. there that he could in fact be guilty of. just that. Um all right, comments from today's. episode. Whoops, opened the wrong document. Seven. Sheets writes, "Any news on Erica Kirk. rushing to trademark Charlie's name and.

his parents, bless them, are suing her. over this. Is this what a widow would do. or a power money grab and why without. the consent of his parents? Prayers and. faith." Um I think that was just an. internet rumor. I never heard that. I. had never received any information about. that and I don't know that I would. imagine Charlie's name is already. trademarked, possibly. I don't know what. trademarks were for I guess we can look. and see that and you can check the. dates. I have not done that trademark. search. But, yeah, I don't I would. imagine that that is not the. circumstance. And I think a lot of.

rumors are flying around, and that one. kind of went more viral. than some other ones. Uh Z A Mitt writes, "Congressman Thomas. Massie was France baited yesterday. Unfortunately, the battle is physical, the war is spiritual. Devil's overplaying his hand. I will. leave it at that." It is you. the only the it only works if people. believe it's real. Get what I'm saying? Power works when. people believe it's real cuz power's. actually quite fragile. So, when people. begin to recognize that they are being. ruled over, like when the slaves look up.

and recognize. um that actually they're on a. plantation, that's not good. It's one of. the reasons why slaves were not allowed. to learn how to read. The slave codes, like it was actually uh. such a a insistent slave code that even. if you were a slave owner, and you were. caught teaching a slave how to read, you. would also face penalties and fines and. punishment because yeah, they need you. to to be ignorant. That's the point. They need you to be stupid. And people. are not stupid right now, they get.

what's going on. Um and so, I personally. like the phase where they get arrogant. I like this phase where they start. saying the things that they're saying, and I just like I said, I've seen it. happen a great many times, and we are. headed in that direction with the. Epstein class. Two-tone Tommy writes, "There are two sets of cojones between. Brigitte and Victor. There's one set of. cojones between Candace and Victor, and. Victor ain't got it." I don't want. cojones. I don't want cojones. I but I. get what you're saying at the point that. you're making. Victor just, you know,

just registered to me as a bit unstable, emotionally unstable. Um happy he says he's working on it. I. have no doubt that he probably did not. have a peachy childhood. I actually, frankly, I'd liked his family. They. reminded me a lot of my family. It could. just southern people, and like one side. of my family at least. Southern people seemed like people that. cared um. and had dignity and respect and a a. sense of honor about their ways even if. things were a bit crazy uh growing up. That's the vibe I got. Mandy writes,

"The urgency by our government to build. these data centers which drain our. drinking water supply and strain our. local grids needs to be talked about.". We talked about it last week. I think. everybody is talking about it uh and. they should continue to talk about it. and it within your community. when they are trying to do these sorts. of things, you need to cause an uproar. Uh there are more of us than them. Something Charlie always said to me, "What is one thing that every single. slave civilization since the beginning. of time. had in common with one another?" And the.

answer is there were always more slaves. than masters. So, think about that. Zack Cassello show. Oh, I've watched. some of your episodes, Zack Cassello. Hello. Zack writes, "The timeline of Charlie to. car drive to hospital, surgeon, and. Andrew Colbath finding out puts Victor. March's Instagram post at exactly within. the time frame that his closer closest. inner circle was finding out. Someone. informed him, in my opinion." I totally. agree with you, Zack. Uh that's the. point we were making. It was when right. around the timeline when Erica finds. out, it's actually a little bit before.

when Andrew Colbath finds out. So, that. signals to me that someone in the. hospital, perhaps a security team or. Erica, informed him that Charlie was. gone. Uh just putting together the blue. clues. I definitely don't think he was. just wagering a guess. That doesn't. register right to me. Or maybe he was a. part of the Israel chat because. like I mentioned the other day, Pastor. Jack Hibbs and that little orbit of. TPUSA faith-adjacent people-ish were. also the among the first to say uh that. Charlie had passed and that for some. reason Israel knew first. Who I don't.

know why they knew first. Who Who knows. why Israel knew first? Israel didn't do. nothing. They've never done anything. other than assassinate a sitting. president of the United States. Um. Abdallah Cab writes, "Candace, what do. you think about the shooting at the. mosque in LA? It is the first time that. I have seen mass shooters take their own. life. Is it another attempt to place a. wedge between Christian America and. Muslims? I actually did not follow that. story, so I'm a bit uneducated, but I. will just say more broadly speaking, the. attempt to pull Christians and Muslims. apart and keep them warring with each. other has become very evident. Um and I.

always speak about 9/11 and the. intentional. uh brainwashing that took place across. my generation making us. everyday never forget 9/11 stand up at. 9:00 a.m. and 11 minutes everyday. uh to in for a moment of silence. That. was what was going on at my high school. to drive this fear of Muslims have us. thinking that they are radical. And I. think that now our generation is grown. up and we have some different ideas and. opinions about who could have been. around 9/11, who benefited from those.

Middle Eastern wars uh which. subsequently took place. Certainly. wasn't America and it certainly wasn't. Christians. I will leave it at that. Uh. James the least writes, if I wanted to. be governor of Colorado, I wouldn't go. on one of the biggest podcast in the. country and say absolutely nothing about. why I should be governor. On the other. hand, if I had a lot of money to. launder, what easier way to do that than. to run for office? I think we have uh. the worst options that people are. running. I don't know how Ed Galvin is.

not just embarrassed to be alive, honestly. To not even run and to to have. everybody know what you are, uh. effectively a a prostitute. Right? You're a prostitute. You know. that. You had no crowd. You had to have. uh the camera zoomed in real close to. your face so people couldn't see the the. no crowd that showed up even to your. victory party. Nobody was there. I just. think we need to bring back culture of. shame and as a man, that should kill. you. You should die from embarrassment. automatically, right? Just like uh as a. man, I'm just going to pass away.

Testosterone deficiency or something. That's if I was Ed Galvin, uh. that's what I would expect. But I guess. we live in a different generation. People are pansies and people are like, "Hmm, money. Hmm, yay. I'm just going to do what I can to. get rich and vote how they tell me to. vote." Yeah, you're a slave to Ed. So, just you think you're winning the house. That's all that is. Sorry, guys. That was a little harsh. I. am not being very nice today. Um.

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