TPUSA Wants Us To Stop Asking Questions About 9/10?! | Candace Ep 248

Happy Monday everybody. Today we are going to  discuss or rather I'm going to introduce to you. a psychological strategy uh that I refer to as  David Hogan. Somebody you guys remember David. Hog of the Parkland shooting tragedy. Of course  you do. Well, it seems like Turning Point USA is. now engaging in this strategy of David hogging the  public. And I wanted to be clear that is downright. manipulative. And I've really had enough of it.  Frankly, what happened over the weekend is that.

their TP Action COO Tyler Ber went on a little  bit of an ex binge. I don't recommend it. Which. was then highlighted by Alex Clark, who has a  show over there on Instagram. And I think it's. therefore fair for us to turn our attention  back to them. So, welcome back to Candace.

[Music]. So, let me put it to you this way. I'll  give you a different scenario. If at this. very moment McDonald's publicly announced that  their CEO was stepping down and they were going. to replace him with somebody else, nobody would  care, right? Like there's not going to be any. public outcry about them doing that. The average  person doesn't even know who the current CEO of. McDonald's actually is. But however, giving you a  different scenario, if out of nowhere McDonald's.

announced that they were getting rid of the Big  Mac, that they were changing their French fries, and they're doing away with their chicken nuggets,  there would probably be a reaction to that. People. would be pretty angry. It would probably start  trending. Uh, and it's because the reality. is nobody actually cares about the corporate  structure. But if you change the menu items, that actually changes the substance of the company  for people. A very recent example of that, by the. way, is the Cracker Barrel scandal, which was  hilarious, but it was a good point for everybody.

to learn, right? corporates over at Cracker Barrel  effed around and they found out pretty quickly. that that old man on the logo, that inanimate  old man that was with the cracker and the barrel. actually had more meaning to the public than their  entire corporate division. They were ready to just. walk away from it all because they got rid of  the old man and his barrel. Now I raise this. only to say that I have seen multiple political  organizations within recent years especially when.

money starts pouring in right there's this like  arrogance that sets in and they start to delude. themselves into believing that they're smarter  than their customers that they're smarter than. their audience so to speak right like the magic  is actually the corporate structure audiences uh. I want to be very clear will catch a vibe pretty  quickly audiences are smart they're perceptive. they will sense when something is off. And the  harder that you try to convince them that their.

senses are not real and that they are imagined,  the more obvious it actually becomes to them. that their suspicions are correct. Something's not  right. Now, to just keep up with the same analogy, Charlie Kirk was essentially the old man on the  Cracker Barrel logo. People were invested in. Charlie Kirk. We have at this moment no definitive  understanding of what happened on the day that he. was assassinated. But what we do know definitively  is that the feds are lying to us. That is obvious.

It is abundant. If you have a if you're able to  think thoughts, you recognize that something is. very wrong with the story that has been presented  to the public. And I think that what the public. doesn't understand, and I count myself among the  public, is why it seems as though Turning Point. USA executives, and I'll say seems, are not even  remotely interested in challenging that official.

narrative. They're not interested in challenging  it publicly, at least. In fact, I think it was an. ex-user that pointed out, he put it rather bluntly  when he said, "So, they want us to forgive Tyler. Robinson, but to attack the people that are trying  to solve the murder of Charlie Kirk." Like, that's. not right. It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel  good of threats of lawsuits. We're collecting. evidence of what what are we even talking about?  And I want to say that what's been bothering me in. particular are the micro lies. Seems that they're  suddenly in the business of telling micro lies.

tiny little misrepresentations, tiny little  half-truths that right out of the gate seems. altogether unnecessary. It really makes me wonder  who are they protecting exactly. You'll see oftent. times they and other influencers will invoke  Erica as the reason that it's not appropriate. to ask questions. It's just not appropriate  while Erica is still mourning for you guys to. ask any questions. And I'm just going to come  back at you with some common sense. What sort.

of widow wouldn't want people to investigate  the assassination of their husband? She has. not explicitly said that. But the influencers are  invoking that, right? They're invoking like you. just it's not appropriate right now for people  to be asking questions. That's what I mean when. I say they are David hogging us. Okay, you could  also use another example um somebody that was on. the right, Kyle Kushv. What essentially means  is that when a tragedy takes place and we are. all we we are emotional, our emotions are raw.  Me especially, I think this was the first time.

where I couldn't really check my emotions. I I I'm  just now like moving out of the grief stage. There. will be people that then will try to manipulate  you, right? They will try to manipulate you by. using that strategy of saying, "Well, it would be  really wrong. It would be really wrong for you to. look beneath this layer or to ask a question about  this and it, you know, it would be an injustice to. Charlie Kirk's legacy. Really, if you really loved  him, then you shouldn't do this, okay? Because the.

tragedy just happened. And they did this David  Hog, you're not allowed to question David Hog, like he suddenly became an authority. And no  matter what he said, we were kind of told by the. journal journalists that it just it made perfect  sense and he should go to Harvard. And you know, obviously to the extent that anybody suffers and  survives a a school shooting, I'm with you. And. I think that that's totally fair. But then when  you go beyond that, it starts to feel a little.

bit like you're emotionally manipulating us and  that you're actually trying to silence people who. have valid questions or criticisms or concerns.  That strategy, like I said, it worked on me in the. beginning. I was definitely completely worked by  it. And I was feeling like even though I knew that. they were telling white lies that I should just  allow it and to instead focus my entire attention. on just unpacking the federal lies. But you know  what? Over the weekend I realized actually no.

Lying full stop is weird. It's weird after a  tragedy. It is weird after someone that you. purport to be your best friend. You're so close.  Why are you telling micro lies about that person? And actually by exposing those lies, perhaps  it will reveal a bigger picture because what. would motivate it? What would actually motivate  it? Now, I'll give you just one example here, and we're going to get into some some stuff  that's rather bomb bombastic if I'm being frank, but one example that I bit my tongue on a couple  weeks ago, was when influencers randomly went on a.

full attack, like full attack mode against me when  I very casually, you guys watching the series, very casually mentioned that Catholics were hoping  that Charlie was going to take the next step and. con and convert. Like, of course, I'm Catholic. Of  course, what would be wrong with me sharing that? Everybody was sharing their stories about Charlie  and the conversations they were having. But for. some reason, Candace saying, and I'll sum it up  effectively, it was like two sentences. Charlie. was going through some spiritual changes towards  the end. Catholics were hoping that he'd take the.

next step because he was praying the rosary. I  never said he converted because he didn't. That. would have been dishonest. But people were somehow  really angry. Somebody clearly hit the panic. button. Suddenly, a bunch of videos were being  made disputing the narrative. People were going, "I knew Charlie and he was truly evangelical to  his core." Blah blah blah blah blah blah. And I. want to tell you this. It felt coordinated.  It felt fake. It felt unnecessary. But most. importantly, it was untrue. Okay? It wasn't true.  And I'm going to share with you some more truth.

so that you can contextualize it. Charlie  was attending mass weekly. He was sometimes. even attending mass daily. He was not attending  Pastor Rob McCoy's church. As I mentioned before, uh yes, he was praying the rosary. Charlie, in  fact, was wearing the St. Michael pendant when. he died. Okay, as has already been publicized,  Erica took a Catholic bishop with her to pray over.

his body on the day that he died. These are all  indisputable facts. And it is also a fact which. was presented by Megan Kelly uh that a few weeks  before his death, Erica had a priest come over to. pray over them when some witches thought it would  be funny whatever uh to put a hex on him. Okay, that's a lot of things that were happening behind  the scenes and the people at Turning Point USA. knew those things to be true. Okay, they knew  everything that I just shared with you. They.

knew for a fact. So, I was a bit astonished when  Andrew Kovette and Alex Clark similarly jumped. in in this inauthentic attempt to dissuade the  idea that Charlie was softening on Catholicism. It read to me like just sheer hatred of Catholics  for no reason at all. Here's what they said. I'll. jog your memory. I want you to listen to this now  in the context of all of the additional details. that I just shared with you. Okay, take a listen.  Was he becoming Catholic? No. But he really loved.

Catholic mass. He loved the ritual of it. Uh  he loved the beauty of old Catholic churches. and the stained glass. And him and Erica would go  sometimes. Yeah. Well, Erica is a cradle Catholic. Uh, but she ended up kind of like me. I grew up  Catholic and first communion and went to Catholic. high school, but then I ended up becoming  a Christian in college through a Protestant. church through a non-denominational kind of more  experience. It's actually a Presbyterian and then.

it was kind of non non non-denominational. And  and I think Erica kind of follows that same path. She and I share that. Also, by the way, I I just  want to draw attention to she's posted a photo. of her and Charlie and the kids in mass before  and somebody in the comment section said, "Oh, are you guys converting?" And she said, "No, we  just like attending sometimes." So, she herself. had said no. Yeah. And I think Charlie, one of one  of the things Charlie really hated worshiping in. like a a gym, you know, or a some some sort of  kind of blank space that that you just turn into.

church. I don't there's no problem. He didn't have  a problem with the the act of that. He just didn't. prefer it. And he loved again the ritual, the  ancient, you know, feel of a Catholic mass and. the fact that everybody around the world that  was worshiping as a is Catholic. He loved he. loved that. So he had some really big theological  hang-ups with that. You can go check the videos. out him debating with Michael Nolles, you know,  in good fun. I mean, they were dear friends, but. they loved kind of debating the whole Protestant  versus Catholic thing. Now, given everything that.

I've I've shared with you, does that conversation  register as like totally and completely authentic. or kind of trying to be like, yeah, no, like he  loved the architecture of things, but beyond that, nothing was happening like that's not that's not  fully honest. And it registered to me like a cover. up of sorts. And I was wondering like what are we  exactly covering up? Like I wasn't going Catholic. gang gang. Wasn't trying to bring back a 30 years  war. I was just sharing the communications that I.

had with him. And now I felt like suddenly so many  people were racing to establish that his legacy. was anything but Catholic Catholic, right? Like he  was super duper Judeo-Christian. And ironically, it was Judeo-Christianity that I was challenging  him on personally, like privately. Um, and I was. speaking to him about the political pressures  of it, the way that I felt um, because of last. year that it registered to me like more of a cult  than a true theology or a religion or a religious.

aspect rather. And it was back in February of  this year when out of nowhere he's the one that. actually messaged me and said um I'm sorry of  of and said Catholicism is sounding better and. better in February of 2024. This is kind of when  we started having that discussion. Uh we should. chat soon. Catholicism is looking better and  better. Okay. I then offered back to him a chart. just showing how the phrase Judeo-Christianity  kind of is really associated with the dawn of the. nation of Israel. Right. And we did chat about it.  We chatted about talked about it a lot and I was.

thrilled like I said and I was being honest that  he was attending mass. Okay. But I want to again. state that Charlie was not attending Rob McCoy's  church. He was attending mass. So it registered. to me again as somewhat disingenuous when Pastor  Rob McCoy came out and effectively asked me to, you know, stop looking into all the things that  had happened in the leadup to Charlie Kirk's. assassination or at least asking me to pause it  rather would be more fair of an interpretation. until the memorial. Right. Okay, I'm going to  jog your memory here. Here is what Pastor Rob.

McCoy wrote on his Instagram after I exposed  the now infamous Hampton's meeting which took. place. He wrote this. Charlie Kirk was my friend  and I was his pastor. I want to simply say this. regarding Candace Owens. Charlie Kirk was a friend  to Candace and never publicly spoke poorly of her. Although he disagreed with her, he never operated  nor entertained gossip or innuendo concerning. Candace. My only comment I offer regarding Candace  is this. only wish that at this tragic time of.

mourning she would be the friend to Charlie that  he was to her. He would never have treated Candace. or her family in such a way had God forbid  this tragedy been hers. All friend loves at. all times. Proverbs. Now I want to be very clear  if Charlie was a friend of mine. I sure hope if. I was assassinated in front of the world that he  would that he would raise hell to figure out what. actually took place in that day. That's not being  a friend. A friend is not someone who stays silent. uh when lies are being told by the federal  government. That's not a friend. Again, emotionally manipulative. The family can't have  you finding out who actually killed him. The.

family can't have you looking into those things of  who was pressuring him behind the scenes. That's. just that's not good for the family. It bothers  me. I have to be honest with you. That bothers. me. I don't even like that to the untrained eye  he's kind of representing himself or representing. Charlie as like a current congre congregant of his  church. I feel like a lot this year I have been. feeling as though those as though these pastors  are just not as honest as they should be. Right?

Is that the vibe? Like a lot of pastors are not  really so concerned with the truth is what I would. say. So we should zero in here on Rob and what his  motivations might be, right? Why did he decide to. post this after I revealed that Hampton's meeting?  Well, you should know, I think most people do, that both his son and his daughter-in-law work  for Turning Point USA. So whether you want to. represent that or not, they have a financial  stake in the future of the company. He heads. up the faith division. So Charlie's faith and  what direction it was going into would actually.

matter, right? It would actually matter if  Charlie, and I never said he was going to, decided one day to become Catholic. It would  have financial implications. I want to be clear, I never had a conversation that that Charlie was  in the process of converting. Okay? But Rob in. particular knew for an absolute fact that Charlie  was done with Israel bullying him. That's what. bothers me so much about this man. Him allowing  these headlines. Charlie's pastor speaks out,

you know, crushes Candace because of what  she said. Not whatever. I don't like it. He knew and others knew that Charlie was done  with Israel bullying him and I am now going. to present you proof of what I am saying. This is  an actual group chat which happened 2 days before. Charlie Kirk was assassinated. There were nine  people in total on this chat including Charlie. uh and Rob McCoy. I'm going to protect the  names of the other seven for now. To be clear,

I might actually release a name every day of this  week, but I want to show you this because suffice. it to say, Rob McCoy was on this text thread, and  I think it helps contextualize him as a person in. my view that he would attack me for telling the  truth about the pressure that he was facing. Take. a look. So, Charlie writes in this group chat,  "Just lost another huge Jewish donor, uh, 2. million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm  thinking of inviting Candace." Somebody writes,

Charlie writes, "Jewish donors play into all  of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be. bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to  leave the pro-Israel cause." And somebody writes, Sedona writes, "Please do not invite Candace.  That might feel good short term, but it's not. good long term. In my opinion, like all groups,  you're going to get a wide variety of opinions. that nasty free will thing that God bestowed  on us. Makes life frustrating at times after.

the dust settles a bit maybe. So again, this  is 48 hours before Charlie was assassinated. He was very clear and he was very explicit and he  did not back down. Not in that Hampton's meeting. which they're all lying about, nor in this text  thread. I'm not going to reveal the names of the. other seven. Actually, you know what? I disagree  with myself four seconds ago. Let's just throw in. Josh Hammer for funsies. He's on this chat.  Okay, so what are we to make of that? Okay, now that I'm showing you this and showing  to you that the conversations were real,

I want you to reflect. And it took me a lot of  patience to allow the lies that were being woven. and the misrepresentations of people that were  pretending that I was just what high on lying. about Charlie and the pressure he was under.  The attacks that not just me, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly faced for trying to stand up and tell  the truth about what Charlie was actually going. through. Why are you hearing it though from me and  Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly? Is that weird? You. got people that are hosting a show. Have they in  like one honorable thing come out and said like,

"You know what? F a couple of these donors  who made his life a living hell in the last. couple of weeks. Why haven't they done  that?" There also a rabbi in that chat. Why hasn't anybody made that move to at least  say to vindicate what I have been saying about. what he was going through? That registers to me  as very suspicious. I'm going to frankly say that. it's suspicious to me. It makes me think that in  the way in the same way that Charlie was being.

pressured by money that you might be now run by  that same money that those same donors might be. running you to correct the ship and to focus  yourselves on eulogizing Charlie as something. and someone that never once flinched, never once  for a single second doubted the Israeli cause.

Now they want us to suddenly believe the best  way to honor Charlie is to shut up. The exact. opposite of what he quite literally laid down his  life doing. Answering questions. Turning point. Answering the questions is what he was doing in  the second that he died. Okay? And we all feel we. all are feeling spiritually the same way. So I'm  just going to say it. They're not grieving right. It's not up to us to decide how people grieve. But  I will say unequivocally that you shouldn't grieve.

by lying or by gaslighting. Is that fair? Can  we all agree? You should not grieve by lying and. gaslighting the public. They want us to believe  that the only way that we can support and honor. Charlie's legacy is by donating our money. But it  would not be supportive for us to try to figure. out who killed him and why the feds are lying.  we should instead just trust the feds and excuse. their little halftruths that they're telling along  the way. Now, on that point, they keep trying to.

make it seem like it's completely normal that  four minutes after Charlie was shot, someone on. their team nervously raced to grab the SD cards  uh specifically from the camera that is behind. Charlie's head. And um that was because during  that time I think it's like trying to make it. normal that his instinct was to stand on Charlie's  chair to actually violate a crime scene. Um but. also to mysteriously just grab the SD card out of  the camera. Right. Not only are they pretending.

that that was completely normal, but they're also  presenting it as though it was a heroic act. it. was like a forthright clarified act to do in that  moment and that anyone who uses their own eyes and. sees it as maybe a little bit suspicious are just  in the business of spinning conspiracies. Now, that's exactly what was communicated by Andrew  Kovat um when he sat across from Tucker Carlson. who was hosting Charlie's show and gratefully  Tucker Carlson instantly responded with a much.

more sensible approach. Take a listen. By the  way, just one other conspiracy theory I just want. to snuff out here. One of our dear friends that  literally from the very beginning started with. us and love Charlie like a brother, he grabbed  the SD cards out of the camera afterwards. And. there's all these conspiracy videos about why  did he grab the SD cards? Well, first of all,

they're in the possession of the FBI. Okay, it's  not like he took them and like ran off with them. Second of all, I asked him personally. I said,  "Why did you do that?" And he looked at me and. this was his answer. He said, "Because I know  people can be evil." And he did not want that. footage being grabbed by somebody. There was  videos of people after the incident going and. stealing hats off the table. I mean, so I'm  so grateful he did that and that that was his. instinct. He's like, "I'm depressed to know that  that was why I did that, but I knew that I had.

to protect that footage because I know I wanted  I mean, you know, you're recording in like 4K, you know, and so I'm so glad he did that, but  Charlie knew the existence of evil." And so, can I just say I think that people can feel  the existence of evil in that just to put in a. sympathetic word for people who are trying to make  sense of this and coming to the wrong conclusions, I think they're motivated for the most part  by pure intent. I think they don't trust the. authorities. have every reason to feel that way. I  know that for a fact. Not the Trump administration.

in general. Like Yeah. Yeah. We're not, you know,  there's been a lot of lying and it's corroded the. trust. That's not their fault actually. They're  the victims of it. Good point. Thank you for. saying that. Yeah. Thank you, Tucker, for saying  that. And this is the reason why Tucker is so big. because he he has this perspective. He understands  like what the average person is thinking here. And. the average person looks at that and I think  it's shady. and you know saying that there was. this heart-wrenching moment where you were worried  because people were stealing stuff on the table, but also you took the SD card out and not the very  expensive camera, which is if you were worried.

about stealing and theft, maybe you would take the  camera. But more importantly there is he says that. the feds that he that he he gave it to the feds  right now. He doesn't insinuate obviously that. they don't have the footage. Turning Point does  have the footage. That's very clear. I saw part. partially the footage which means it made it back  home. uh or maybe they had it back home because. they were um recording it live. Whatever it is,  uh it was being live streamed. But what he said. actually conflicts with what Tyler Ber is about  to say, what he said over this weekend. Okay,

Tyler Ber, like I said, he's a COO of Turning  Point Action and he went on this kind of bender. uh worse kind of bender, Twitter bender, defending  the organization. and he thought he was defending. them against public sentiments during which  time he refuts what Andrew Kovette is saying. about the SD cards. Andrew says the Turning Point  employee was worried about theft. But Tyler says. that actually he was instructed to secure the  SD cards before the campus went on to lockdown.

Now here's the tweet so I can show you that uh  somebody said rightfully emotional manipulation. and falsely equating scrutiny as some form of hate  speech is not going to work here. You and Kovette. admitted that the staff tampered with cameras and  the most crucial video evidence in the largest. political assassination in decades, hiding Mason  look guilty. And Tyler countered, "Dude did not. tamper with anything." Yes, he did. It's a crime  scene. The law enforcement officers asked them. to turn them over immediately so they didn't get  lost in commotion before they took everyone into.

lockdown. Now, that is just not true. That is not  true. What Tyler was saying is not true. I spoke. to that Turning Point individual. I as I told you  and he never once mentioned that police officers. I explicitly asked him why did you take the SD  cards out specifically of the camera behind and. the answer that I was given which sounded more  like Andrew what Andrew Kovette said you know. I was emotional I I knew that Charlie was dead  and my instinct he told me was to take make sure.

that I secured the footage so that Erica would  not have to see it again like he didn't want. Erica to have to see it and have to relive it.  That is what he said to me on the phone. Nothing. about police officers. No one's ever heard police  officers asked them to secure the footage before. lockdown until Tyler Boyer tweeted this weekend.  I don't like it. Okay. I just don't like it. Now, to be fair, uh Tyler is making it clear that he  is responding to all of these tweets um or exes, whatever we're supposed to call them, because  there have been people he says that have flat.

out accused the organization of having a hand in  Charlie's murder. He doesn't share when or where. exactly that happened. Uh I think people feel  you're being dishonorable by not questioning. the narrative, but I don't I don't I haven't read  anybody that's explicitly accused them of murder. In fact, um the the tweets that he's responding  to all seem to be pretty fair in my opinion, you know. Um, now regarding the missing campus  footage, there is a user that begged Tyler to file.

an FOIA request and that user wrote this. Please,  I beg you, focus on getting the security footage. of the sequence pre-jump off the Losi building  where we can see Robinson in shot position and. corroborate the story like file an F, sorry, file  an FOIA, get that footage, keep it simple. and he. responds and he says, "Guys, there's camera  footage all over that campus that the police. have plus all the cameras that we had. They  likely won't release it until the trial." Now,

there's just one problem with that narrative,  right? If they have all this footage, they're. just not releasing it because they just want to  what? Uh they're just worried about the trial. They want to make sure they win the trial. What's  wrong with that narrative is the manhunt that took. place. If indeed they have tons of footage from  all these different angles and some of it in 4K, which they do, this is why we've been saying the  feds are lying from day one, then the first time. that that footage should have been deployed, was  during the 33-hour manhunt, right? Why didn't they.

release more footage at that time, right? they  were, if they were actually interested in catching. the killer, why only release a blurry image when  there is, as he mentions, footage everywhere, all over that campus, every inch. Are we  supposed to honestly believe at that time. their thought process in the middle of a manhunt  was well let's not release too much except for a. blurry image because I know we don't have him  but in case we do have him when we do get him.

we want to make sure that we are um able to try  him by not releasing footage which makes no sense. by the way and I think this is what happens when  a company loses they're as South Park ribbed him. master debater right what they're saying does not  make sense these people could not win in college. campus debates without Charlie. Okay? Because the  reality is if that if releasing footage, okay, if. releasing clear footage of what happened on that  day means that you are going to lose in court that.

it probably signifies that the person that you are  trying to bring to court didn't do it. If they're. somehow vindicated by the footage, if you're like,  I released the footage of him jumping down on the. center and I show him firing a shot, but like  that totally vindicates him, then you got the. wrong guy, right? Having more footage, examining  more footage, and examining more evidence should.

further incriminate Tyler Robinson. It should also  go a very long way in getting people off of these. quote unquote conspiracies. Common sense, this is  what I said in the beginning. release the footage, which you do have in your possession. It's not  like just the feds have this footage. Release. the footage because then people will move on from  quote unquote conspiracies. So everything they're. saying right now doesn't make sense. Um and the  p they're not smarter than the public, right?

and Turning Point is not going going to survive  this sort of an attitude name calling threats. to sue um calling people demonic possessed by  demonic spirits because they're rightfully asking. questions of the most high-profile political  assassination since JFK. It's just not going to. work. Free PR advice. It is not going to work. I  want to show you one more thing too because I I am. quite stunned by the audacity um to call me out uh  Alex Clark to like call me out by sharing on her.

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and use code candace. All right, you guys. So, how  are we supposed to honor Charlie, right? You honor. Charlie, of course, by donating a turning point  USA and shutting up and trusting the feds. Don't. question anything because it's just not right or  whatever. You shouldn't even question the things. that Charlie was questioning, right? The spin is  in. I got really annoyed last night going through. Somebody tagged me and said, "You see Alex Clark  posted and tried to make it seem like I lied about.

the new Doge Department when I literally shared  the email from Charlie." They're even using this. kind of like I I call it Christian slop. Okay?  Because that what they're serving up to you is, well, if you're a good Christian, you shouldn't  do this. Like they kind of saying it's demonic. You're possessed by a demon. If you want to pursue  truth, said literally, "No one ever but Satan.

incarnate." Okay. Truth is truth. It is always  appropriate. Another one of these uh talking. points are coming out is people are doing this for  clicks. They're motivated by money. Do you guys. understand the tens of millions of dollars that  Turning Point USA made in the two weeks following. Charlie Kirk's assassination? It is, it would be  insane for a person to suggest that if a random. guy on YouTube catches a million views discussing  ballistics, which there have been many gun guys.

who have done videos on ballistics and caught a  million views, that that's somehow immoral because. they're maybe going to make $10,000 if they keep  that up for an entire month. Like, that is insane. And it it actually relies on financial literacy to  think that that's immoral. Good for them. Good for. them. If you have a small account and you somehow  got a million views because you told the truth, then bless you, okay? Don't let them shame you.  They're doing it for clicks. Oh, uh, no, their.

account talks about ballistics all the time. This  is now just a political assassination, the most. high-profile ever, and people want to understand  every aspect. So, we're clicking and we're. watching these individuals that look like they  know what they're talking about, especially in the. absence of any truth coming from the quote unquote  authorities. So, what are we supposed to believe. that the more moral thing um would be for us to  behave like Turning Point USA employees? You know, Alex Clark calling you out, you kidding me? Should  I do what she did? And I it would have been more.

moral for me to invite the Wall Street Journal  a a literal week after Charlie is murdered to. photograph my me in high boots standing over his  memorial site at the office like the out outside. memorial vigil where people mourn and drop off  flowers and gifts because that's exactly what Alex. Clark did. And I thought it was icky. I thought  it was gross. But I didn't say anything because. everybody mourns in their own way. But I got to  stop saying that. I got to stop saying everybody. grieavves in their own way. This is the article  that was published on September 18th. So, we can.

assume that they at least photographed her one day  and interviewed her one day earlier, right? That's. being charitable. So, this was done latest again  one week after Charlie was assassinated. Again, take a look at this. Pull that up. I'm going to  pull this photo up because I just want to look. at the photo. This is literally her being shot in  front of the gifts that people are dropping off. for Charlie. Maybe it's photoshopped. Doesn't look  like it is to me. Um, even if it was photoshopped,

I would be losing my mind. I I I don't understand  um how anyone would let this go out and think that. it's okay if they knew Charlie. I couldn't  even speak to the press that week. I still. haven't spoken to the press about Charlie Kirk,  actually. Not I haven't even given one interview. about Charlie Kirk because it felt icky to me. I'm  just focused on investigating his murder. Anyways, I want to read a little blurb from this  article. Again, published September 18th. Alex Clark was about to head to the airport for  a work trip to celebrate the first anniversary.

of her podcast when she heard the news. Her boss,  Charlie Kirk, had been shot. She says, quote, "The. very first thought that popped into my head was,  I'm so glad that Charlie knew Jesus," said Clark, 32, who hosts the Maha Friendly podcast, Culture  Apothecary, Returning Point USA. The second. thought was, "What will happen now?" And the  third thought was, "Thank God Trump is president.

I don't know. you." People around the world didn't even know  didn't even know Charlie. Okay. Third thought, thank God Trump is president. Like MAGA. Did  you go MAGA? Did you go like I'm glad he knows. the Lord and then MAGA? What are we missing here?  What what like I does that feel okay at all? Goes. on to say she praises the FBI director Cash Patel  and his deputy Dan Bonino for their leadership in.

the hunt for the suspect. What's so crazy is  that we have them in office because of Charlie. Clark said. So honor the feds quick pick outside  and also mega mega hard. That is like I'm sorry. I get it. Everybody grieavves differently. Okay.  But not that way. The last thought that I had as I. spent days crying, okay, had difficulty physically  pulling myself out of bed. Felt like I was being.

a bad mother was, man, I'm sure glad Donald  Trump is president. MAGA. I didn't feel that. way. Didn't feel that way. In fact, I was angry.  I remember feeling angry when Trump moved to kind. of like do a a same time post BB and Yahoo and  then like publishes a picture of Charlie with an. Israeli flag behind was pretty angry about that. I  thought yuck that's gross. have you no dignity and. respect. Post a picture of him with his family,  you know, trying to like already sew seeds to into.

people's minds that like, no, he he like kind of  died for Israel, loved Israel so much. This would. be appropriate, especially in the context that I  just read to you. It was gross. But anyways, I I I. just I don't know why. I don't know why, but the  people that are critiquing us for investigating. the murder are not critiquing themselves. They're  not holding a mirror to themselves. Anyways, Alex. has decided to share a total halftruth PR spin on  another tweet from Tyler Ber where he responds to.

someone asking about Charlie establishing a  Doge department. Again, we presented that to. the public. We showed the internal email, the  internal memo that went out. It was Charlie in. his own words. We showed the whole email. I didn't  read the paragraph where he announced that Justin. Strife would be the COO, but we read the entirety  related to the Doge Department. And here's what. Tyler says about that. He says she took a sentence  and made something up. TPUSA doesn't audit every. year. Always has. Charlie constantly look for  ways to make everything we do more efficient.

That's TPUSA. It operates eight times more  effectively than any other similar operation. So, what did I make up when I shared an email and  Charlie said he wanted to establish a new Doge. department? Why would he call it new if he was  doing it every year? And wow, what foresight you. had as a company that's been around for like  10 years or more maybe more 10 years that you. were doing Doge since the beginning. No, you're  conflating and it's dishonest. It's dishonest. The.

audit has fall. Okay. F all to do with Doge. The  audit is what 501c3s are instructed to do. Audit, get an independent auditor and audit yourselves  or else the IRS will hound you. Now, when you. are auditing yourselves, I will guarantee you the  Clinton Foundation audited themselves annually. That does not mean that there is not corruption.  It does not mean its means that you're doing. things that are above board from a government  perspect government perspective. It does not. mean that within your own organization there is  not corruption. That is the reason for a Doge.

department. At least according to what Elon Musk  said, nobody when he established Doge with a V. Ramoswami was thinking that he was going in there  because he was going to see if they're violating. the IRS laws. No, I think he went in there to see  wasteful spending and to see where the money was. going, where our tax dollars was going. That's the  vibe I got. So, they're relying on us to be again. financially illiterate, to not understand how  it works. I shared a 501c3 lawyer with them. So,

I met her in her offices with Charlie and she  explained the reasons why she um said that you. got to get an independent auditor. I actually  think that for organizations of a certain size, you're required by law to do an annual audit  if you're 501c3. I think it's state byst state. that guides that. But to present this like this  means we're above board. I have a feeling some. people are going to die on that sword because the  reality is is that big companies inevitably you. will find corruption. And I'm hearing some stuff.  Okay. a lot of contractors. That's something that.

you can do as just one example. That's completely  legal but utterly immoral is if you're outsourcing. all of the millions of dollars to contractors and  you're getting kickbacks. That's just one example. Okay. So, I take money from donors and then I show  that I'm paying out to um a contractor who doesn't. work for Turning Point USA, but that contractor  is then somehow paying me back. That would be. something that wouldn't flag the IRS, but then  would flag a CEO and a Doge department if they.

started looking at where the money was spending.  I hope that clarifies matters. Now, shifting gears. only slightly. I don't often or really ever speak  about my faith journey, right? Because I'm still. on it. Uh, and I don't want to make a mistake  or be wrong. Uh, and in many ways, I kind of. feel like this pressure that I don't want to let  Catholics down because I don't know everything. And I prefer the people that have been Catholic  forever to speak on things as I'm still a student. But I do want to say that a major clue for me that  being non-denominational uh was no longer working.

for me happened because of things politically  when I tried to express certain questions about. the modern state of Israel and was instead  met with what I can only describe as cultlike. behavior. You're seeing it right now, right?  Judeo-Christian after Judeo-Christian making. videos can it's like cultlike behavior. You can't  leave, right? There's only one way out of here. people quoting scripture to actually fulfill  what became quite obvious to me was just their.

political lens and yeah people taking money to do  that keeping it above bar it's not illegal but you. are taking money you're taking free trips what are  your motives here if you're citing scripture to. defend the actions of BB Netany and Yahoo you're  a fraud of course you're a fraud and if you're. accepting money to do that in the process you're  worse than a fraud anyways I want to show you guys. this clip that someone sent me this was a sermon  which was given by a pastor on September 21st, 2025. Now, it's not necessary to name the  Judeo-Christian pastor, right? I'm never trying to.

uh put any fire on them because I actually think  what they're doing is important because I find out. about all these sermons because their congregants  are sending them to me, right? They've got the CIA. in their own congregation and people are going,  "And I stopped attending that day because I. realized something's not right here." I want you  to listen to this pastor's words because you might. too feel similarly inspired to recognize that  something is wrong. And I want to also be clear.

here. It's not every pastor. It wouldn't be fair  for me to say that. Um but pastors that have a. very strong political bent. Something's not right  there. All right. Now, to tee this up, the title. of his sermon is, "What has defiled you?" And he  has decided for this particular sermon to pull. from Paul's letter to the Corinthians. In that  specific biblical passage that he cites is 7:1 and. it reads, the Bible reads, "Therefore, beloved,  since we have these promises, let us cleanse.

ourselves from everything that defiles body and  spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.". Now, you don't need to be a priest or a pastor  to think right now about what you might perceive. uh is the point of that passage. Probably thinking  through it. Yeah. Yep. It's important. Body, spirit. Um probably not. What you're thinking  right now is that this has something to do with.

Megan Kelly. You're probably not thinking  Paul wrote this letter to the Corinthians. because there's a point that he wants to  prove about Megan Kelly. But he's going to. get there. That's how this pastor is going to  get there. He's going to explain that. Take a. listen. Why am I bringing this up? Because I  was watching a interview with Tucker Carlson. and Megan Kelly and this is what they said.  Everyone under 30 in America is against Israel. The older generation's not because we've  seen the six- day war in 1967. And there.

wasn't a narrative that was so prevalent right  now with with with foolish people that are so. deceived like a Candace Owens and like a  Nick Fuentes and young people are eating. that up and they're changing their philosophy  on what these people say that do not do do not. base your ideology unless somebody has a Bible  open. That is where your ideology comes from. You're gonna be like that treehugging hippie  mom that I'm trying to save her kids from being.

bitten by a rattlesnake and dying and she's all  worried about some habitat when she knows she's. not welcoming in rattlesnakes in her home. And our  ideologies when we really really think about them, they've been formed by a society that is not  basing everything they believe out of the word. of God. And I challenge you today. If I've  said anything that you don't think is right, bring bring your Bible and show me  because if I'm wrong, I want to know.

Challenge accepted. Challenge accepted. I really  like look, far be it for me. I'm not a seminarian. I really don't think that is what Paul I just  don't I don't think it was about Nick Fuentes. It call me crazy. I know you guys do on Sundays,  but I don't think it was about Nick Fuentes and.

Candace Owens and the modern modern created  state of Israel. Again, I could be wrong. I'm. open like you to being incorrect, but it's just  like there's something that is so fundamentally. disgusting and I hope you guys agree about using  the Bible to justify your own personal rants. Um, using the Bible to justify why you're attacking  somebody, preaching a certain like just start.

a podcast. You can be like me, right? I'm not  sitting here going, "Turn your Bible here and. you are, you know, defile and blah blah blah." And  what this really means is like that turning point. is like that's there's something so incredibly  evil about that. He has a quick second here uh. when he wraps up his points about me that I want  to get to because I've starting to realize I don't. even think he knows what defile means. Actually,  take a listen. You need to go to the Lord and say, "What has defiled me?" Hopefully, some of you  that have been defiled with the nation of Israel.

because you've been in an echo chamber of Nick  Fuentes and Candace Owens, that defilement has. now come off of you and you're going to block  them because they're anti what scripture says. What defiles you? What defiles you? So, I think what he is saying that if I'm being  charitable here, he's suggesting like you'll.

somehow be saved if you block me on Insta. What is  this? Actually, what is that? I'll tell you what. it is. It's completely heretical in a theological  sense, but it's also unhinged. It's just unhinged. He looks unhinged. It's like he it's like so  much relies on him getting his point across. So. he just like opens his Bible, points to a verse,  and just throws it up and says whatever he wants.

to. He's basically me on like AIM when I was in  the eighth grade picking out quotes from like, you know, whatever those quote websites are and  just like throwing it on my away message. There's. no rhyme or reason that he's doing this, just a  feeling that he has and he wants to express it. and justify it using a quote without its context  or even understanding of why that quote quote was. said or why that biblical passage was written.  Uh it's wrong and it's also deranged. everything.

that's happening right now to continue to justify  what the state of Israel is doing, the modern. state of Israel is doing, which has nothing to do  with the ancient um Israel, the biblical Israel, is they are now trying to censor us, trying to  control our speech. They are murdering children. And so, the more that you defend this and that you  pretend that this is what God wants, the more that. you will expose yourself, right? The more that  you expose yourself. Even this headline is crazy.

uh this this this came out that like their Tik Tok  which we we covered this before their moderation. team like IDF soldiers uh and BB Netanyahu saying  we're taking over Tik Tok like my agents are going. to get that in a purchase that's what needs to  happen so that we can win announcing essentially. psychological warfare on on the American people  because they don't think we can think for. ourselves and decide who we want to follow on X  all by ourselves apparently they're going to ban. the juice box emoji Right? Because people because  they can't talk about the modern state of Israel.

have been using like the apple juice because juice  can sound like Jews. And so they're now moderating. that. And I will say this, that's going to be  funny because it's just it's going to be a game. like whack-a-ole and all we can do is laugh at it  because these people are savvy. These Tik Tockers. are like they're pretty savvy on the internet.  They're going to be some gonna be announcing. like let's use this emoji instead from now on.  This represents the modern state of Israel. And before you know it, there's going to be no  emojis that are allowed on Tik Tok. Actually,

it would be funny. The funniest thing that they  could possibly do right now is every time you. want to talk about Israel on Tik Tok, use the term  Tik Tok and see if Tik Tok will ban Tik Tok from. Tik Tok. That's how we win. Like, if that happens,  we win. Okay? We get to laugh forever that we made. Tik Tok ban Tik Tok because Tik Tok is actually  code for Israel. The modern state of Tik Tok. That's what I want you guys to do because that  would just be funny. And we have to actually have.

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Camas Owens. Camas Owens. Um, somebody wrote me  a message and was like, "Canis, you said your. name wrong." They missed the Operation mocking  pastor joke. Um, Camas Owens is my pastor stage. name when they're talking trash about me.  I actually loved that so much. All right, let's get into some of your comments. What is on  your mind? I'm going to be in so much trouble, man. I'm going to get off here airwaves and be  like, she's not She is just Yeah, I'm there. I'm there now. I just don't like it. I just not  getting the right vibe, but I know everybody else.

feels it, too. And I'm just really tired of these  influencers making the videos are all saying the. same thing in a different way. I think we're dumb  and like it's all happening organically. It's like. it's just tiresome. It's really tiresome. So, if I  have a take on everybody so we can get some truth, then that's what it is. That's just what it  is. Jennifer Merchesen writes, "Praying for. your safety, Candace, keep digging, please. You  are on to something. We need truth." Thank you, Jennifer. Uh, that is a massive donation. I  really, really appreciate that. All of you guys.

that have been donating to the show to support  us, like I just want you to know like we really. appreciate it and we see it. Melissa Forberg,  similarly, the uh really nice donation here. Spent. the weekend researching the Cabala. It was to say  the absolute least terrifying. Thank you. Yes, it is very important. Of course, if you are in my  book club, we're about to really get into it. By. the way, tomorrow we start uh the book, which they  don't want to resell, which is crazy. I don't know. where David Beccan's uh children are, the author  of the book. He is Jewish himself, but I'm just.

want you to know that you're being like they're  blocking money from you. They don't want the. public to read this book which you can download  and find it online for free but like still it's. pretty crazy that they are now realizing  people are catching on that book will dive. into the Cabala. Uh it's very important to know  similarly like I've said from the beginning we. have different denominations within Christianity.  That's kind of what this whole episode has been. about. I don't know why one like I I I don't know  why so many evangelicals have such vitriol for. Catholics. The feeling is not mutual. Genuinely  the feeling is not mutual on the Catholic side or.

on the Orthodox side. Uh and so it's interesting  to say the least. But similarly within Judaism. there are different sects. There just are and  and we don't realize that. We don't know what. they believe in. We just go, "Oh, it's Judaism.  It's the it's just, you know, it's the Pentitude, the first five books of the Bible." No, there's  also the Talmud. There's also the Cabala. And. to just not actually study and understand all of  those differences makes us extremely ignorant and. very likely to be indoctrinated into one of those  religions convinced that it's actually modern.

science which is what's actually happening. I  think we kind of live in a a cabalist society more. than anything else. And I think that this book  that we're going to read will help you get there. We really have we go there in the book club. We go  there. And so if you'd like to join the book club, we are starting a new book tomorrow. Tomorrow will  be an introduction an introduction to that book. We will wrap up this last book that we read which  is similarly terrifying which is the assault on. truth. The scales will fall from your eyes if  you read the assault on truth to understand how. they will lie to protect the most evil people  in the entire world. You have to destroy your.

belief system about Sigman Freud and then you're  ready to learn about what Sigman Freud actually. what his major contribution was. And that's  the book we're diving into next. Sigman Freud. in the Jewish mystical tradition is the name of  that book by David Ban that we will be starting. on tomorrow's book club. Uh Lauren writes, Lauren  Hooland writes, "You mentioned the suspicious way. so many of the individuals surrounding Charlie's  case are new to their role. I live in Dallas and I.

noticed after the ice shooting that Daniel Kimo,  the Dallas police chief, is new to the role as. of April. We are all being lied to." Yeah. It's  almost like they're like actors. You know what. I mean? You're going to just play the role of  sheriff when we do this thing. you're going to. play the role of this and everyone's going to be  so new. It's pretty lame. It is pretty lame. And. it it again questions we're allowed to ask them.  Expose the truth writes, "I have been a Catholic. my whole life and attended a non-denominational  church once and found it to be cringey like that. pastor that you showed the video of. Keep fighting  for truth. I'm sure Charlie is cheering you on.

from heaven. Praying for you." You know, actually  to tell you how emotional I was after Charlie's. death was really just not myself obviously,  but I was upset. I was almost upset with my. priest because I went on Sunday and I expected  him to like say something about Charlie Kirk, which is not what he should be doing. Like you you  can dedicate a mass to somebody, but he didn't say. anything about Charlie Kirk. And I was like, oh,  like I don't like that. And then now that I've. removed from that, I actually appreciate that.  Like that is what I actually find that I love. about the Catholic religion is like there's not  there's no political bent there. like that is what.

I love and I attend um you know the Latin mass and  I what I was upset with I now really appreciate. in the retrospect that you know there's no drop  of politicism when you're in the room. Jennifer. Barney writes, "I admire you so much. It's easy  to drop something and go with the flow. Don't. drop this. Something is not right. Thank you,  Candace, for being our voice." Um I'm grateful. I'm actually so grateful I can be your voice  and I'm grateful that you see that when they're. attacking me, they're just kind of attacking  people for asking the most basic of questions. And.

again, I would like to I'm so grateful to Tucker,  I think, is also one of our voices. He immediately. interjects. He's like, "Well, let's be fair here.  The feds have lied about everything always. So, why should we think this is different, especially  when they're dropping these weird text messages?". Uh, so yeah, I'm I'm grateful that you guys trust  me to be your voice. And obviously you guys were. kind of all on the same squad here. So it's  because of the information that you're giving. me that I'm able to even platform it. So I owe I  have so much gratitude for you guys as well. Every.

morning I start the day with gratitude. And I  always say how grateful I am for the platform that. I have been given by God and the people that have  invested in me by just watching and hearing what. I'm saying and standing up for me when I can't  stand up for myself because I'm being attacked. from every which direction. So from the bottom of  my heart, I do want to say thank you to you guys. Uh, moderator Marzy writes, "Rob O'Neal, the  guy who shot Bin Laden, questions the story. of Charlie on Piers Morgan's show. Also,  the South African ambassador to France, was found dead in a Paris hotel." Oh no, France.  France, it's hot right now. France. France is,

you guys already know. Look, I want to say this.  I want to say this. Um, make sure I read all this. Oh, I budget also asked, "What's the update on  your Australian visa status? I want to answer that. real quickly. Your Australian fans need you." Uh,  you know, the the Supreme Court of Australia heard. I don't think it's called the Supreme Court.  You guys call it something else. But is your. Supreme Court heard our arguments and we are still  awaiting a decision. Obviously, we can't rush them.

in their decision. So, we will be the first to  know when we hear back. Speech is speeches on. the line, but of course, we will always respect  uh the decision of any country. We've never been. in trouble. So, it's weird that I can't travel to  Australia. It's very strange to me. Everybody else. can travel to Australia that's been in ton of  tons of trouble. But that is the power of truth. when it is spoken. That is what is so amazing.  All of the money in the world that Israel has, the money that they spent on influencers, people  that have been assassinated by trying to get.

them to register under Farah, uh, presidents,  everything that they have done and every piece. of that carefully woven tapestry of deception is  falling apart because people are speaking truth. That is why free speech is important, right?  That is why it is the single thing that they. want to attack first is because truth when spoken,  that's Christ. Christ is truth, right? It is that. powerful. And that's something to be amazed by.  To be amazed that they are scrambling and they. want us to stop speaking and to stop communicating  and to shut down communications. Uh it shows you.

the power, you know, the power of Christ truly.  I will say in closing and going back to France, if I found Breit's penis, I will find who killed  Charlie Kirk. We'll see you guys tomorrow. [Music].