The Past Is Prologue: Why Charlie Kirk Was Murdered | Candace Ep 287

All right, you guys, happy Thursday. Sorry, I am running late. B- I I was. just doing so much research. I have so. much to tell you all today. So, we have. to jump right into this because I. actually have a horror story for you, an. actual real-life horror story for you. Someone called me last night and told me. a very strange story about what happened. to her back in the '90s at an. evangelical university. But first, we have to revisit Brian. Herpolsheimer's story about how far in.

advance they typically plan security. because someone has leaked to me another. glaring oddity in this security. protocol. Let's jump right back in. Welcome back to Candace. Do you know what I think? I think that. whoever made the decision for Brian.

Herpolsheimer to sit down with Sean Ryan. made a terrible mistake. Big PR mistake, PR nightmare. That's kind of been. the story here. One long uh bad PR decision after the. next because the issue is Brian said too. much. The internet is meticulous. The. internet is clocking them every. sentence. It's really easy to catch. people in inconsistencies and then to. keep replaying what they said about. certain things, especially when they. don't add up. So, I would like to gently.

remind you all back at home what Brian. Herpolsheimer said about what it typical. preparations entail for Charlie Kirk. events. Take a listen. Let's move into the threat assessment. and the pre-planning for the event. >> Absolutely. How many days prior were you. guys there? We generally the permitting. process and all that goes on behind the. scenes. And then there's a questionnaires that. are filled out that we used to there was. a lot of busy work. And then so, you.

know, kind of like in the military what. you did, we create forms that hey, let's. get this information up front. Mhm. And. so that we have a duplication process so. that we can confirm it. And so we. started our first. before that one. the 24th of the month prior. And so. and that was with the hard conversations. meetings. >> You started that on the 24th? >> Mhm. Right. It it and we do.

>> two weeks at least. No, it it it started. before that with the the intelligence. gathering and and all that, but. the hard conversations, the sharing of. information, the conference calls, the. the data sheets. Um and and we put that. in a timeline. uh on on a on an on on an app so that. this all goes up and every guy that's on. that job uh can see all the intel that. comes in. It's a decentralized command. model for the company.

And so anybody can make command. decisions for the betterment of the. client or the team. And so everything. goes on that app. And so when I get it, they get it. And. when whoever's gathering that intel, it. gets it. There's no hold, there's no. power hold on it. And so. that first information came in on the. 24th and then the information share. starts. where more walking through you know. everything that you need for a detail. Everything that you need for a detail,

obviously. elsewhere in the interview, he describes. this conversation that he had with the. chief of police. He's upset about the. chief of police not covering the. rooftops because he feels that his team. was on it. So on it, you're coordinating with whole. police departments. You're discussing. drones. Drones were not allowed. And so. they just had to let that go. Well, interestingly enough, I received a tip. from someone that was directly involved. with the planning of an event that. Charlie Kirk was supposed to attend the.

following day. on September 11th. The day after his. assassination, Charlie was slated to. speak in Woodland Park, Colorado. at the Charis Bible College. Okay, so that's in Woodland Park, Colorado. He was slated to speak there. And according to this person after. Charlie got assassinated, there was a. bit of a panicked meeting that took. place, which was headed by the. chief of police. They decided. uh to transform this event into a vigil.

And they were panicked because, believe. it or not, they had absolutely no. security plan in place. They thought, "How odd. We have We don't have a. security plan in place. Now we better. consider this. Um and we need to make sure that we have. police officer involvement.". Why didn't Dan Flood and Brian. Herpolsheimer and Turning Point USA's. security have. any coordination with the police. departments. up in Colorado? If this is what they normally do and you.

know, whatever the way he over describes. that and they get the plan and everybody. can access and start to begin to speak. and then we speak to the police and then. we do all this stuff. We just didn't think to do that for the. event that he had the next day? No police officer involvement scheduled, nothing. Suddenly they're panicked. because they realize they don't have. anything scheduled. Yeah. So, the police chief apparently uh. decided to take measures himself to make. sure that the vigil.

went off without a hitch. That's what I mean when you lie a lot. and when you're planning things you're. not supposed to be planning, you don't. think through every detail. Yeah, as in. the next day. If you expected Charlie. to make it to September 11th you would. have been communicating about. what he was doing um up at the Charis. Bible College. Anyways, moving on to. other news. I want to show you this working Excel. sheet that I quickly put together today, so it is by no means perfect, but I was.

telling you that throughout this. investigation, I have noticed some. recurring themes that have come up. I. don't didn't really know what all this. means. I still don't know what all of it. means, but I wanted to start jotting. this down and putting it together so. that it looks clean and we can just add. another name every time. a name comes up in any of these. categories. So, this isn't how you're. really supposed to use Microsoft Excel, but it's how I'm using it so that it. looks neat. Um if we if you just look. over here at the columns, these these. four themes that I'm identifying and I'm. going to add more. Liberty University,

Eastern Europe, trafficking and child. sex abuse, and then in that final column, military. These are just themes that I recognize. keep coming up. So, Liberty University, very quickly going through this, Tyler. Boyer attended and he graduated. Erica. Kirk attended and she graduated. Cabot. Phillips attended and he graduated. Mikey McCoy was accepted into Liberty. University, but then he chose not to. attend because he got the job at Turning. Point USA instead and he went direct. there after high school.

Um it should be noted that his father, Rob McCoy, met Charlie Kirk via Jerry. Falwell Jr. He was the president of uh. Liberty University. uh until there was a sex scandal. fallout. Andrew Colvett, I'll tell you what his. connection is. Andrew Colvett was. working PR for the Kairos Company under. Johnny Moore. Johnny Moore was the lead. pastor at Liberty University prior to. then leaving Liberty University to start. the PR firm. And Johnny Moore is an. important name for those of you who.

watched the Tucker Carlson had. interviewed someone in the military. He. was speaking about what was happening in. Gaza, how children were literally. starving, how children were being shot. at for fun. Bizarrely, they decided that. Johnny Moore, Reverend Johnny Moore, is. it Reverend Johnny Moore? I don't know. He was somehow equipped to lead the Gaza. Humanitarian Fund and he gets this role. essentially, "You're going to distribute. your organization. You're going to be. the head of distributing the food. to the children of Palestine, the.

families of Palestine." And obviously, we know how that went. IDF soldiers are. just killing them. And so he does a lot to say. I have no. idea why he got this position. It seems. remarkably corrupt. Anyways, uh I wanted to let you know who that. Johnny Moore was. He was just running. PR. He's a PR guy like Andrew Colvett. who was under him. And then Andrew. Colvett leaves Kairos and decides to. mint his own PR firm that's really just. around Charlie Kirk, really, as his only.

client. I I believe that's his only. client. Turning Point USA. Then you have the Falkirk Center. I'm. going to put that in the same category. In case you don't know this, what. happened was Jerry Falwell Jr. and. Charlie Kirk decided to come together to. establish the Falkirk Center. This was. actually Turning Point USA, the precursor to Turning Point USA, right? So, he meets Rob McCoy. They. start discussing putting this together, the Falkirk Center. And then Jerry Falwell has this huge sex.

scandal. He's forced to step down. It's. like this pool boy scandal. He's forced. to step down from Liberty University. And now this project just go they go. this we can't go forward with this. This is hugely embarrassing to the. university. Um this is now going to be a relic. Uh by the way, at that time, Erica. Frandsen, because her and Charlie were. not yet married, they were dating, she. became a Falkirk fellow. They were kind. of hitting the road together and and. working to make the Falkirk Center a. thing. And so what happened after it fell apart. was that they decided to instead create.

Turning Point Faith. That's important. for you to know that this this origin in. Liberty University because I'm going to. tell you more in a bit. Now, regarding Eastern Europe, remember that plane that sort of. mysteriously people thought it turned. off its transponder. They issued a. statement saying they didn't turn off. their transponder. It flew uh from. Provo, Utah into Arizona and then he. said we were just picking people up. Well, I'm putting that under because in.

investigating that I determined that oh, interesting. They were formerly. registered that plane, pardon me, was. formerly registered in Romania back in. 2013. Uh the tail number was then Y R N V Y, almost looks like navy there, Y R N V Y. Um and then in 2015, so from 2013 to. 2015 that plane was registered in. Romania. Interesting, okay. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. I'm. just telling you that this is when these. things have come up.

Obviously we know that Erica Kirk began. the Romanian Angels project in late 2012. uh early 2013 through to 2015. And obviously you have seen all the. TikToks describing the scandal. And to. explain that to you just to to kind of. separate uh. the myth from the facts of this. I'll. tell you what the facts are. The facts. are that Lori Francev uh established the. Everyday Heroes Foundation which was.

supposed to help children in need. That. was established in Arizona under Erica's. mother's name, Lori Francev. Uh what they decided to do as charities. do is that they develop certain projects. and certain missions and what spun out. from Lori's charity was the Romanian. Angels project. And they got this deal. uh with the military. They worked with. the military in Romania uh to help. orphans, okay? Now, it is a fact that they worked with.

at that time Colonel Otto Buscher. Colonel Otto Buscher was then accused. of running a brothel. with. young children. Uh uh taking them onto. the military base uh for himself, his. his sexual needs. A woman filed in in. Romania and said this is what's actually. happening, these children are going onto. the base and they're being prostituted. to military men. So, it was not there is.

no articles that say Erica Francev or. Lori were involved in this, but it is a. fact that they were working on the. Romanian project with Colonel Buscher. They thanked him. And then Colonel. Buscher gets accused of running a. Romanian brothel with Romanian children. Those are the facts of that. In 2011, Tyler Boyer also went to. Romania to work with the Romanian. government. I am still trying to. determine exactly what he was doing with. them. Uh I'll have more on that.

hopefully later. In 2013, Tyler Boyer. posted a photo of himself with a. Ukrainian orphan named Natalia. Uh she doesn't he says in the post or. his wife says in the post, current wife. says in the post that she doesn't speak. English, Natalia. And he claims to be. helping through an adoption agency. program, helping her because he speaks. Russian. I can show you that photo. actually. We have that photo um. somewhere, Skyler. Can we pull up that. photo of that post? Do you have that?

Great. Here we go. Just so you guys know. we're not making this up. This was posted by his wife. This is. Natalia. She is 12 years old and she's. an orphan from Ukraine. She's staying. with my friend Aubrey and her family for. the holidays through an adoption agency. program. She does not speak English, so. Tyler was able to go and talk with her. in Russian for over an hour tonight. She. was shy at first, but by the end of the. visit she was hugging him and asked him. not to leave. It was a wonderful yet. heartbreaking experience. all at the same time. It makes me so. grateful for all that we have. Thank you. to the Obs Report for letting us be a.

part of Natalia's stay. Okay. Next we have Turning Point USA obviously. working with Pastor Greg Laurie despite. Harvest Church being accused of. trafficking children from Romania. Okay, sure. He says that's not true, that's. not what we were doing. People say yeah, it's exactly what you were doing. We. don't know, we don't have a verdict on. that cuz that's happening currently. Uh. Andrew Kolwitz's brother Curtis is. currently stationed in Romania as a. lieutenant colonel.

We have Tyler Boyer who holds a degree. in Russian studies and is fluent in. Russian which is similar to Astrid. Tuminez by the way, the president of. UVU. She also holds degree in Russian. studies and is fluent in Russian. And I. should mention she's an orphaned child. Might be relevant, might not be. relevant, who knows? Rob McCoy, I don't know if you know. this, but he adopted a 12-year-old girl. named Natalia. She now goes by Natasha. from Russia. around 2006. Okay. So,

I don't know. It's these these are just. facts. I'm delivering the facts here. Now regarding uh. trafficking sex abuse. I I N A 8 8 KG which is now currently. owned by Derek and Shailene Maxfield, they run Saprea which is a child abuse. charity. Uh not not, you know, they're. helping children that have been abused. A sex abuse charity. And then I told you guys about Colonel. Otto Buscher who was accused of running. a brothel with Romanian children from.

2011 to 2015. um at a Romanian military base in. Romania, I should say. Not a Romanian. military base, an American military base. in Romania. And yes, he worked with Romanian Angels. during that time period. Uh civilian commander s- uh sorry, I. stationed at Fort Huachuca, a civilian. commander that was stationed at Fort. Huachuca David Frodshem uh. ch- was charged with running a child sex.

abuse ring. That is true. TPUSA Faith. works with Pastor Greg Laurie as I told. you. They are currently embroiled in a. trafficking scandal. George Zinn was arrested and then it was. determined that he had pornographic. images, that's our decoy boy, of. children on his phone. And as I told. you, he told people at the hospital that. he was treated at. that he he would be paid if he did this. Now, he didn't know where the money was. coming from, but all he had to do was. jump up and down and say it was me, it. was me.

Andrew Piscatello, you might remember. that uh name because early on pictures. were circulating of him and people. thought that he could have been the. shooter because he was wearing uh the. suits and and he actually and people. thought he maybe had a weapon in his. bag. It ended up being that he was. photographing that he was taking. pictures, he was a photographer not. hired by Turning Point USA. Uh but he has rang the alarm before on. military Ukrainian sex trafficking that. is happening in the United States. If.

you go through his Instagram, he has. said this is what's happening currently, they are trafficking children from. Ukraine and he did some investigation. into that. So, that came up when I was. looking into him early on. Obviously I have covered extensively. Calvary Chapel Chapel church riddled. with pastor abuse stories. I mean, it's. it's a thing. Okay. Uh and then obviously we know Rob. McCoy who was trying to rehabilitate. somebody who actually went to prison. uh. who said he found the Lord and decided.

to put him in into homes with children. via Calvary Chapel. There's a lot of. rehabilitating people who have an issue. with abusing children I would say at the. Calvary Chapel church. It's problematic. And I'm putting Glenn Beck and Tim. Ballard's Operation Underground here. Actually I knew I learned about. Operation Underground, that was. introduced to me by Marissa Streit over. at PragerU. She asked me to interview. Tim Ballard before he had to step down. from the charity which was a.

child trafficking char- a charity. dedicated uh. to rescuing children from being. trafficked in war-torn areas. Uh Glenn. Beck was the initial investment as the. story was told to me when I was at. PragerU when I interviewed him. Obviously we know Glenn Beck has. interviewed Erica Kirk. We know that um. and Glenn Beck also his children were. there um at UVU when Charlie Kirk was. assassinated. He was one of the first. people to speak out about that on the. news on September 10th. And Tim. Ballard's name strangely came up when we.

were looking into Phil Lyman. And we learned that he paid Tim Ballard. a visit in the days following the. assassination which was just Tim. Ballard's name coming up was just. interesting to me. because I was like oh, he runs also a. child trafficking charity. There's a lot. of that, just a lot of that happening. And also I should mention Derek and. Shailene Maxfield who run this abuse. charity, in their profile pictures they. were wearing an Operation Underground.

shirt. So, people are very passionate I c- I. would say. about trafficking and putting together. organizations to stop trafficking. in this story. Now, in terms of my military connection, it is extensive. Like I said, this is by. no means a definitive list. I put this. together today. Andrew Kolwitz's brother and cousin are. captains in the military, Curtis Kolwitz. and Robert Kolwitz. Rob McCoy's father. Roy Edgar McCoy ran psychological. operations for naval intelligence to.

shape public perception. His son Danny McCoy is currently in the. military um and yeah, he had a whole. naval fleet named after him actually. So, top top dog, top dog. We obviously know Erica Kirk has been. open about the fact that her mother. and her father have do defense-related. military work. It's why she moved to. Arizona in the first place because they. had contracts with the DOD. And we know. that her father has worked with.

Raytheon. The Farnsworth family has extensive. military connections. I will add more. about that. uh later and we will cover that later. because the Farnsworth Farnsworth family. in general uh is important to the story. Dr. Frank Turek was a naval flight. officer for eight years. His son Frank. Turek the III is a deputy officer deputy. division chief, pardon me, at joint. chief of staffs in DC. His other son, Spencer, is an Air Force vet. He was on the phone with I think he said.

both of his sons, FaceTiming with both. of his sons. Correct me if I'm wrong, maybe it's one of his sons he was. FaceTiming with. The Haiti's military plane, which we. haven't discussed too much, but I. promise you will get there, uh inexplicably flew uh this route. around UVU on the day of the. assassination, just before and just. after, which is interesting because that plane. in particular has a lot to do with. drones. Again, we'll get more into that in a. future episode. And then of course, the. doctors. Dr. Lee Trotter did his.

residency on an Air Force base and he. also has his pilot's license. The Utah. medical examiner, Dr. Deidra Amaro, is a. major. Butch Hibbs, we have Jack Hibbs, their. father, Butch Sr., military background, and I suspect Butch Hibbs also perhaps. is involved in the military himself. We're looking for something a bit more. concrete on that. Now, I want to present. that to you because I want to focus. um on building that.

so you can see these themes recurring, but today we're going to talk more about. Liberty University. Because I received a very interesting. set of tips about Liberty University. Particularly yesterday, I was contacted. by someone, well, actually I should say. I spoke to someone yesterday. I was. contacted by them many times via email, pleading for me to call. She was. pleading for me to call her. It wasn't. really clear to me as to why there. seemed to be a panic. She was seemingly. triggered by a video regarding Trump.

pageantry. Okay? The video in question. is not controversial and she has no. connection to the person in the video, which was Erica Kirk, simply discussing. how she got involved with with the Trump. pageant world. Hence why I was not exactly seeing the. big picture. She doesn't know Erica. She. had nothing to say about how Erica knew. Trump pageants, but her speaking about. it was triggering for her. Anyways, after a lot of um back forth, I decided. to just call her. I had some time. yesterday. to see why Trump pageantry in general.

was so triggering to her. And she began to to tell me a story that. was quite unbelievable at first until I. did some research. This woman, whose identity I am going to. protect at this moment, was a young. teenager in the '90s and she had landed. herself in a bit of trouble. She wound. up um. with a probation officer and she also. got pregnant and they essentially told. her, "Hey, you know, you're either going. to get your life together." Sort of this.

ultimatum. "We could send you to juvie. or you could go away and. we'll give you an opportunity here. There's this amazing new program that's. being run out of Liberty University, which helps troubled teens, which you. are a troubled teen." She was 13 at this. time. So obviously, they made the decision for. her to take the option. It's like when. the judge says, "Hey, you can go to. rehab or you can go to prison.". Obviously, uh I'm going to go to rehab. So she chose to uh go down to Lynchburg,

Virginia while she was pregnant to live. in a house with other troubled girls who. were being helped through a program that. was known as the Godparent program. It. still is a thing today. Effectively, they help these young women. on uh who are struggling with various. other things, but particularly with her. and the women that she was sharing rooms. with up up their pregnancy journey. And they offer to help place their. children into adoptive Christian homes.

should they choose not to keep their. children. Sounds nice enough. That seems like, you. know, the Christian spirit, pro-life, and uh don't have an abortion, instead. uh we can have a home for your child to. be raised in. But things got pretty weird after that. and I want you to listen to what she. told me in this conversation, which I. recorded, and yes, I have her permission. to share this conversation. I'm sorry uh.

if this sounds um you know, not too. clear. We tried to make it as clear as. possible. And uh. yeah, let's just roll it. It's going to. be quite long, but it's very important. Uh take a listen. When I got to the Liberty Godparent. home, which is what took me in. in '90 like '94, um. they used to lock us in our lock us in. our room 24 hours a day. We had a We. were locked in our room. We weren't allowed visitors. We weren't weren't allowed people at our.

home. I didn't have no visitors cuz I. didn't have no family there, of course. And I was shaking. I didn't have no family there, so I. didn't have nobody. They used to take weird pictures of us. How old were you? I'm sorry, go ahead. How old were you? Uh. I was I had to be 13, 14. Okay, and who. who took pictures. Who took pictures of you? Uh.

Falwell Falwell Sr. Sr. And then. and his face looked familiar, but he. looked. older now. And you're talking 30 years. ago, you know. Mhm. I'm sorry. But like Jerry Falwell Sr. was the one. actually taking the photos? Yeah, they um I remember him as like. there, but another thing weird about it. is I never thought about like what. happened the night. in the night morning I delivered my.

baby. Everything was weird and I think. about it now, it's all weird to me, but. then it wasn't because I was only 13, 14. years old. Right. >> I mean, I I made mistakes. I mean, I. totally turned my life around. I have. four kids now, but. two grandbabies, but. you know, I. I I want I want to go back to So what. was weird about that night that you gave. birth? Oh gosh. The night before, okay, so they have a.

mother, a house a live-in mother 24. hours. I called there like a month and a. half ago, two months ago. This is what's. weird. I called there right after I. prayed I called there because this video. of Erica came up with Trump and you have. to get invited and I was like, "How in. the world did I get invited?". And and and to this day I still don't. know how I world I got invited to that. and what pictures they had of me. Interesting. And I was shaking again.

Okay. Okay, so you had the baby and what was. weird about that night? Okay, the night. before they Okay, like I said, they have. house mothers and and I can't remember. details, but I remember them doing, you. know, putting the probe and listening to. the heartbeat pretty much and looking. at, you know, doing an ultrasound. Mhm. Okay, to this day I've had, you know, four other kids, a plenty of other sons, so I know what they were doing was funny. to me because.

it everything was fine that night and. then they moved me, which was weird. They moved me to. another room by myself. Okay. At that time I had had another girl with. me. There's. all these girls, different girls there. and some of them don't even speak. English, okay? How how old are um. uh sorry, how how many girls live in. that house? Um back then there was about like. between 12 and 15 in one house, but.

you're talking anywhere from age 12 to. like 21 years old, you know. Mhm. Um I think at that point I was the. the youngest, but. And some of them didn't speak English? Yeah, um there was a couple girls, you. know, they didn't speak English, but we. weren't allowed to That's another thing. We weren't allowed to like talk to the. other girls. We were only allowed like certain girls. were on one one certain side of the. hallway, certain girls were on the other.

certain side of the hallway. Like then we had either call collect. or use quarters Okay. Mhm. Um. on the pay phone, you know. Mhm. They. didn't They didn't want us to use the. regular phones. Mhm. They treated us. like slaves, but. the next morning. it's like they knew something was going. to happen to my baby or something. because the next morning I all of a. sudden didn't have a heartbeat and I had. to go in, but the strange thing about it.

is their daughter, this is another thing. I thought about. Their daughter is a. high uh doctor at the Liberty or at some. university, some um hospital in Lynchburg, Virginia. Okay. And back then, if I remember correctly, their daughter. was like one of the house mothers. Okay. And I'm wondering if their. daughter. was like my nurse or. Yeah. It was the lady Mhm. who gave me.

something. It was scary because. she The thing is is they co- coerced us. to give up the baby because they got. money for the adoption. It was some kind. of adoption ring. I didn't know nothing. about it. Okay. But my thing was is that. I kept telling them, "No, I wanted to. keep my baby because. I had a 3-year-old nephew and I had took. care of him. I thought I could mother. and Mhm. It wasn't It wasn't for me, okay? Mhm. Honestly, I was too young.

Okay. But. still, I have questions because now I. keep seeing stuff and I'm like, "Why are. these all these videos coming up on my. feeds for no reason, you know?" Can I. ask you a question? Um did Are you. saying that you miscarried the baby? Yeah. Um But I was further along and. they kept telling me I had to hurry up. and make up my mind and make up my. decision because um um I'm running out. of time and I have to hurry it up. And. I'm like, "Why do I have to hurry it.

up?" I can't. >> All right. Hurry what up? Hurry what up? Decide if I want to adopt the baby out. They kept showing me folders of people's. faces. "Would you like your baby to be with. this person or would you like to go. raise your baby. somewhere on top of on the street?" Or. Okay. And then here's a question for. you. How far along were you? When when you miscarried? You know, I was asking my mom that and. truthfully I have called down there to.

find myself to find dates out and I. can't even find myself actually in their. system. That's another thing that's. weird. That's very strange. >> I've called down there this past few. weeks just to find out information on. myself. I even called in probation to. answer which he called me back last. night. He was actually telling me. information and he told me. you know, back then I wasn't a bad kid. I just skipped school because I stayed. home and slept in. Mhm. My mom got in. trouble for it. I went to UI for it. I'm.

sorry. Mhm. Um. Wait, but just I just want to stick to. the story of the Let's stay focused. The You don't know how pregnant you were. when you had a miscarriage? Um. I Well, I can tell you I was a probably. Well, I had They had to induce the. labor. Okay. They I had to deliver. So. if that tells you I was over three four. months. Yeah. I was over.

So let me tell you what is really. interesting about this particular. conversation. Um. Well, Liberty University is involved and. you hear she broke down crying several. times throughout the conversation and. there was obviously real pain there. And. what's really interesting is that she. told me thereafter that while she can. pull all of her court records. Liberty University is sort of like, you. know, it's all electronic now. You're. talking about the '90s. We can't find. you. We can't find you. We had You had a.

baby in a house when you were 13 years. old and we can't find you. By the way, where's the baby buried? I asked that. question to her. And she said what happened after she. gave birth was they told her they called. her mom and they said that she's got to. go. I said, "How do you know the baby. was dead?". You're telling me they moved you into a. room. and they induced labor after you said I. don't want to give up my child. They. induced labor. They told you a child. that yourself that there was no. heartbeat mysteriously right after you. made the decision that you didn't want. to um uh.

give up your child for adoption. You. felt like you were being pressured. Now. there's no heartbeat. They induce. uh labor. You never see your son. That. she said she had a son. She never saw. anything. They tell your mom she's got. to pick you up ASAP. That's what she. goes on to tell me because they didn't. want the other. young women to be traumatized learning. that she had a miscarriage. So then when I her mom drives up. and uh. gets her, picks her up.

Funeral? Is there a headstone? Some What happens. uh when there's a induced labor at. Liberty University? This is This is. unbelievable. Now why she was triggered. when she heard Erica speaking about. Trump Pageantry, to connect that dot for. you, is because Erica had said, you. know, we you have to submit your. pictures. Well, she goes back home. She's still a. teenager and 2 years later she gets an. invite to join Trump Pageant World.

But she doesn't know how they got her. picture. She doesn't know how they got her. picture. She wasn't taking pictures. She. wasn't trying to be in Pageant World. And so that's what triggered her and. wait a second. How did they get my. picture? Why were they taking these. weird pictures? She never said that they. were they were sexual by the way. I'm. sure they probably said to her at the. time at that house like so that we can. submit your picture to the Christian. adoptive families, whatever it is. But. it sort of clicked her that's kind of. odd that I got this invitation to join. Trump Pageant World. Now for those of. you who have followed our Epstein series.

we spoke about this. Xavier Poussard. showed that this was one of his. mechanisms. Jeffrey Epstein, Israel's guy, would go find. organizations where there were tons of. young women that were coming through and. he would pump money into them like. Victoria's Secret. And maybe some trafficking happened. Right? By the way, the history of pageantry for. those of you that don't know, it's child. sex trafficking. It's the carnies. It's. P.T. Barnum and Bailey in America. What.

was going on at carnivals historically. speaking was very dark stuff. Very dark. stuff. Anyways, in case you aren't believing. the story because we know what happens. next. They They do the Mitch Snow thing. Oh, she's crazy. She's making this up. It's all an illusion. Well, the good thing is that there's actually. an entire podcast series that is. currently investigating this Godparent. program at literally Liberty University. And these women have done incredible. work. So much work that it actually got.

picked up locally in Virginia by ABC. News. Take a listen. The Liberty Godparent Home, a place for. young, single, pregnant women, is. defending itself against allegations of. coercion and manipulation. >> podcast called Liberty Lost alleges some. of the young women felt pressured to. place their children for adoption. ABC. 13's Rachel Branning investigates. The Liberty Godparent Home is tucked. away on Liberty Mountain Drive.

The maternity home was founded by Jerry. Falwell Sr. in the '80s as part of a. pro-life ministry at Thomas Road Baptist. Church. Now it's the focal point of the podcast. Liberty Lost. What inspired you to. investigate this in the first place? For. the last 2 years I've been investigating. the maternity home after connecting with. several residents who went through the. home as pregnant teenage girls both in. the 1990s and in 2008. One of those.

residents, Abby Johnson. At 16 she got. pregnant. Finding out I was pregnant was. traumatic and shocking and not something. I had any preparation for mentally, socially, emotionally. Her parents sent. her across the country to Liberty. Godparent Home with the promise of a. scholarship to Liberty University after. all was said and done. I really can't. describe the sense of abandonment and. fear and disassociation that you. experience when your family abandons you.

all the while calling it something like. good for you and like this is a plan. Johnson says she wanted to keep her son. However, she felt the home already made. the decision to go the adoption route. Did you ever really feel like you had a. choice? No, I felt that I was put in really. terrifying moments of being given an. opportunity to explain to an adult that. had a different opinion how I thought I. could pull it off. The Godparent Home.

declined my request for an interview but. sent a statement saying in part quote, "Our staff and volunteers work. tirelessly in this ministry and have. built a reputation of being a trusted. voice and ministry resource in the. community. They have treated every. individual who sought assistance with. compassion and integrity." Did you feel. supported in any way by the people. within the home? No, I felt endlessly. put off. Raphael says in theory. maternity homes are a good thing. These.

women should have been supported and. provided with real options to keep and. parent their children if that's what. they wanted to do. But she says the. Godparent Home shouldn't have ties to an. adoption agency. According to city. records, the Godparent Home and the. Family Life Services adoption agency. share an address. Thomas Road Baptist. Church founded Family Life Services. according to their website. I reached out to them multiple times for. comment about the allegations in the. podcast. >> We just want to make sure we're sharing.

all sides of this story. But I haven't. heard back. Johnson and Raphael say for. them speaking out is the path forward. Help people feel like they have a voice. that they're not forgotten. I also reached out to the Godparent. Home. I asked if they can put me in. contact with residents who have had a. positive experience in the home but at. this point I haven't gotten a response. Back to you. I would imagine that I would respond to. that and I'd say, "Yeah, a ton of people. had a positive experience." And again,

the woman that I spoke to you can see. she was there when it was Jerry Falwell. Sr. who we're going to speak about in a. little bit because I'm going to connect. even more dots for you. You know what I. want to say is. we all felt for some reason spiritually. sick watching Amfest, right? Tim. Dylan did such a good job of saying this. feels like something else. Like they. just keep saying that this is about God. and this is about the Lord and this is. about almost like they were trying to.

turn Charlie into a Messianic figure. And yet we felt darkness there. We felt. darkness. We felt like this was actually. about money. We felt like we were being. diluted. We felt like it was a Las Vegas. convention. And I have been speaking throughout the. last year even before Charlie Kirk got. assassinated. I dedicated a lot of time. in this podcast to speaking to you. about this veneer of Christianity. Operation Mocking Pastor we turned we. termed it. And we really start saw them.

to start to ratchet that up after. Charlie Kirk's assassination. These influencers. Well, this is this is the Lord. This is. what the Lord would want. Yeah. We're going to talk more about. that And uh. I'm going to tell you more about the. founding of Liberty University right. after a brief break. Well, it's certainly a time in America. we've had skyrocketing inflation, surging national debt, market. volatility, never-ending wars, bank. failures, and yes, even assassinations. I believe it's important to look out for.

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30% off your first subscription order. That's a r m r a {dot} com {slash}. candace. So, back to Liberty University. Now, I. have been signaling to you guys, like I. said, that there is something very wrong. with these megachurches in America. There's very wrong with almost what I. would term Christian Inc. These Christian influencers, suddenly. they look like they're glitching a bit, right? Something happened in the last. year and we're like, "Oh, I used to kind.

of like you and now you seem to be. glitching inside of this matrix.". You're telling us it's right here in the. Bible. You seem overly invested in. certain narratives. Suddenly, this is. beginning to feel like, well, a psychological operation that's being. orchestrated by Israel. Because you sort. of missed it if your whole brand is. Christianity, but you decided to stay. mum on the atrocities that Israel's. committing in Gaza. This probably isn't really about. Christianity, is it? The Bible's pretty. clear. Uh. uh. thou shalt not kill.

Children especially. I I if I could if I. could offer an addendum, children. especially, innocent souls. And yet, they're remarkably mum on the issue of. Charlie Kirk. Uh. they had more ire for Candace Owens. investigating it. than they did for the FBI. No interest, shut it down. Right? Shut it down. How dare you say. he's Catholic? That's what's wrong with. this. You saying anything about. Catholicism is wrong. Glitch glitch. Oh, Josh Hammer's lying. Let me tell.

you, he's a wonderful human being. Glitch glitch. I'm sorry, lying. Shouldn't you just be able to call a. spade a spade? No, they can't because. they represent something else. Now, I. want to be clear, I have spoken at. Liberty University multiple times and I. promise you, I never thought once to. look up their origin story. I was just. so excited that there was a Christian. university in general and they were. remarkable to me when I spoke there. And I I wasn't looking, I guess, for. anything deeper. I didn't see how I was.

also being manipulated in various ways. early on in my political career. So, color me surprised to learn that Liberty. University. was once failing. and then it received a ton of funding. Honestly, the story of how it came to be. the university that it is today is quite. interesting. Someone emailed me and they. wrote, and I quote, "Hi Candace, I'm currently. reading The Israel Lobby by John. Mearsheimer and in the book it talks. about how the Israeli government gave. Jerry Falwell,

Liberty University's founder, Jerry. Falwell Sr., a $2 million jet in 1979. Adjusted for inflation, that's like $10. million. and that was to gain support from. evangelicals in America. I figured it. would be helpful for your deep dive of. Israel buying evangelicals." End quote. So, that's interesting. That tip does. seem like something I should explore. Probably is helpful. And it's true. Jerry Falwell Sr., I. should tell you, had a rather radical.

conversion to Christianity. when Israel became a nation in 1948. Now, prior to that, this is according to. the Washington Post, he came from a. family that definitely had some issues. His daddy, a man named Carey Hezekiah, was a drunk. and he was a bootlegger. Okay? He was a. bootlegger and he was a drunk and he got. into a fight with his brother once. Uh this is literally his brother. His name was Garland and he shot him. dead.

And to be even clearer here, his dad. wasn't just a bootlegger. Carey was not. just a bootlegger. He was also a. smuggler and a trafficker. Okay? So, he. pretended like he was just a business. owner that was running a string of gas. stations, ostensibly, but in reality, he. was using his fuel trucks to smuggle. bootleg whiskey into America during the. time of prohibition. It's giving Trog No. Liquors, you know, as we started getting. into season 2 of Becoming Bridget. I'm. like, "Wow, a lot of people were. smuggling things into America." Anyways,

I keep telling you guys that the people. that rule over us, the people that have. these huge platforms, they are not. smarter than us. They're just more. corrupt than us. They're willing to do anything to. maintain their power. um and they really are. the heirs of gangsters. Back to Carey. After he shot his brother. dead, he became a rather nasty. alcoholic. His employee one time, this. is a true story as documented uh by. Rolling Stone, his employee stayed home.

sick one day, so Falwell got mad and he. decided to catch the man's cat that he. loved. and he killed the cat. and then he cooked the cat. and then he delivered the remains of the. cat to the employee's house for lunch. Yeah. That's why I went with the thumbnail. title, don't F with cats, because now we. have to find Charlie Kirk's murderer for. those of you who watched that series. Now, according to Forbes, he also once. threw a man into a bear cage after he.

had an argument with him at one of his. restaurants. So, yeah, he had a colorful. background indeed. Like I said, these. people are gangsters. In 1948, the very year that Israel became a. nation, Carey Hezekiah died from. cirrhosis of the liver and his son, Jerry Falwell Sr., had an immediate. radical conversion to Christianity. Bootlegging, trafficking, smuggling be. damned because his business was now. going to be the church, ministering. He. became a televangelist and he.

established Lynchburg College in 1971, which would eventually change its name. to Liberty University, Liberty. University that we know today. And yes, it is true, in 1979, Jerry. Falwell Sr. was gifted a Learjet from. the founder of the Likud Party, then Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem. Begin. Now, that's pretty nice of Israel. But I have always been wondering, in. exchange for what? Like in exchange for what?

Because that kind of reminds me about. how Bibi Netanyahu wanted to take. Turning Point to the Turning Point USA. to the next level. He offered to take. Turning Point USA to the next level. Charlie Kirk said, "No.". But apparently nobody in the mainstream. media is interested in answering the. question. as to why he wanted to take Turning. Point to the. to USA to the next level. What does. Israel have to do with young. evangelicals, a young evangelical. organization? Also, how? That's my other big question. How exactly was he planning to get that.

money into Turning Point USA? I'm. assuming he wasn't going to write like a. blank check from the Likud Party. Surely uh. he was going to accomplish accomplish. that through. other people and their organizations. because Israel never gets their hands. dirty if they can avoid it. That's the. lesson of yesterday, by the way. You. employ Christians to do your dirty work. And I got another clue from a different. email tip that I received regarding. Liberty University. It reads, "Hi. Candace, I have some links that might be.

important for you in your investigation. regarding connections between the. Iran-Contra scandal and Liberty. University." Now, remember, the. Iran-Contra scandal was a a trafficking. scandal that involved our government, the CIA, of course, the Mossad. Jeffrey. Epstein was involved in the Iran-Contra. scandal. If the Mossad is to be. believed, that's how they first brought. him in, running weapons through South. America. Uh. and the CIA and the Mossad got caught.

involving they were trying to control. what was happening in South America. And. uh yeah, they were arming people to take. over countries. It's kind of what our. CIA does. Anyways, the reason how this. involves Liberty University is that. during the Iran-Contra scandal, as the. email goes on, a man named Sun Myung. Moon, a North Korean evangelical cult leader, assisted the CIA in its so-called. anti-communist efforts, that's how they.

build what they were what they were. doing during the Iran-Contra scandal in. Central America. He used his logistics. network through the churches to aid the. contras through his Unification Church. He connected uh and their connected. organizations like CAUSA. and he also ran PR for the Reagan. administration regarding US's. involvement in Central America through. his newspaper The Washington Times. Okay, so what's important is that this.

Sun Myung Moon. later would bail University Liberty. University out. The person in the email. said roughly the amount was 20 to 40. million dollars in the mid-1990s. Now, I find it extremely interesting. I mean, sorry, this person wrote to me. I find. it extremely interesting that the same. evangelical cult leader who worked with. federal agencies. and profited from the Iran-Contra. scandal also financially rescued Liberty. University. And how Liberty University. might be connected to the drug smuggling.

military base he's referring to Fort. Huachuca that was the reason he sent the. email discussing Fort Huachuca. Interesting indeed, I would say because. you've got a story about the feds. smuggling Christianity, Israel, South. Korea. Uh did all that actually happen? Yeah, that it did actually happen and The. Washington Post did a fantastic article. breaking down what became known as the. Moon cult in an article that they. published in 1997 as that cult.

uh was beginning to fade or I guess. their their power was beginning to fade. here in America. And it's stunning. because if you close your eyes and. imagine, you start to see Turning Point. USA. and Turning Point USA Faith. Everything. that I've been describing, I kept saying. from the very beginning. what went wrong in that Turning Point. USA was this. faith push. I've been telling you. I'm going to show you that these. Egyptian planes I showed you in part. were tracking Turning Point USA Faith, these pastors. Okay? What's going on.

with these {quote} unquote Egyptian. planes that happen to look like they're. going into Gaza, actually. So I'm going to read you parts of this. article regarding the Reverend Sun. Moon, his Unification Church. Uh he. declared himself, just so you know, a. Messiah. So when we start to see how it. feels like they were trying to establish. Charlie as a messianic figure. and it's all become somehow about money. They don't actually care about Charlie. It's like how much money. can we make? We're going to put the tent. up. We're going to make it people.

it just. Here's the bloody mic. We're putting it. in a thing. It feels like, I said, a. seance. I need to imagine that as I tell. you about. what Sun Moon's Unification Church. estab- accomplished in America, rather. And yes, attached to the Iran-Contra. affair and Israel and pumping money into. Liberty University. Okay, now it tells. us. that their Unification Church fault was. faltering as a religion in the United. States, but it still remains a robust, diverse business. Again, this is 1997, especially in the Washington area where.

the movement controls more than 300. million in commercial, political and. cultural enterprises. It tells us that the organizations owned. or sponsored by Moon and his inner. circle of Korean and American followers. holds properties stretching from Prince. George to Fairfax County, according to. corporate property and court records. This vast and bewildering multinational. could be called Moon Inc. It is a. sprawling collection of churches, nonprofit foundations and for-profit.

holding companies. In the Washington area, the Unification. Church's investment is an important cog. in a global machine that Moon uses to. boost his credibility, spread his. spiritual doctrine and win political. influence, according to current and. former church members. As the Unification movement evolved from. selling roses on street corners to. acquiring control of a nationwide cable. channel, the nation's capital became the. epicenter of Moon's US holdings. Those.

include The Washington Times. Washington Times newspaper a video. production firm, a stately old church. once the pride of the Mormons along 16th. Street Northwest. Washington area property owned by the. church, its affiliated companies or. senior church officials is worth more. than 200 million dollars, according to. property and corporate records. A lot of. property. I was telling you Turning. Point's getting into real estate. It's. very interesting. They're getting into.

real estate. according to tip that I have because. they're going to teach young. conservatives how to buy houses, I'm. sure. Tyler Boyer leading the charge. Washington will be the focus of the. worldwide Unification movement this week. as Moon sponsored organizations are. going to hold a series of academic. conferences and the World Sports and. Cultural Festival culminating Saturday. with a mass wedding at RFK Stadium. The South Korean self-declared Messiah.

has grown increasingly vehement within. the Unification movement. Moon's. spiritual and business ventures are. viewed as a part of a unified whole. {quote} Ideas without the money to back. them up are just dreams, end quote, said. Richard Rubenstein, the president of the. movement-controlled University of. Bridgeport. The corporate section is understood to. be the engine that funds the mission of. the church. I am telling you this is. like almost verbatim if you were to read. statements about Turning Point USA and.

their spin-offs, we need the money to do. the work. This is what we've got to This is going. to be 501c3, the 501c4. and Turning Point Action. This is where. it's all going to come together. It goes on to tell us that since the. 1970s, Moon has gained his highest. profile in this country not with his. church, but with The Times. the 100,000 circulation daily that. competes with The Washington Post. But the paper has become an established. voice of conservative America. Beyond. The Times, Moon affiliated entities are. linked by a complex web of interlocking.

directorships and nurtured by a. seemingly endless flow of cash from the. Far East. That has enabled them to buy new. businesses and even help to bail out. Reverend Jerry Falwell's foundering. Liberty University. Again, this is 1997. Executives of Unification-related. entities have acknowledged that money. from Japan and Korea are fueling their. US operations.

But the magnitude and the mechanism of. those payments, as well as their exact. sources, have eluded investigators on. three continents over the past three. decades. Let me slow that down for you. So you're telling me we have a. faith-based organization with a. political arm um that is stretched into. evangelical churches that's working with. um. Israel. and helping the CIA uh traffic arms at. one point through churches and the. presence of their church. And now you're.

telling me that when they started. looking into where this money was coming. from. it's actually eluding them how the money. is coming from Japan and Korea. And wasn't that Charlie's last trip? Was. it already he went to Korea? We're going. to get to that. And then after he went. to Korea and met with a pastor, that. pastor got arrested. Again, we're going. to get to that. And then after he went. to Korea, he went to Japan. I'm just saying the past is it's feeling. like it's a bit. prologue. Why was Charlie going to build up? What. does Charlie Kirk have to do with Korea?

Turning Point Faith pushing you into. Korea. A lot going on in South Korea, by. the way. Like LOL, like when I saw this. article about. how they suddenly established a. Holocaust Museum, I was like, there goes. the neighborhood. Do we have that article? Yeah, South. Korean Christian Zionists open the. country's first Holocaust Museum. I should add that to my timeline because. there goes the neighborhood. We're coming. You can't question. anything. We're going to call you. Hitler. Sorry, South Korea. You're so.

cooked. Okay? Anyway, jumping back into this into this. article before I show you what happened. when Charlie went to Korea and the. pastor then got arrested. Um. it it tells us that. uh. Moon Inc. Sorry, let me flip this. Wrong. side. Moon's business Moon's businesses exist. for several purposes, church leaders and. critics agree, to employ members, to. gain influence in industries that Moon. considers crucial and to support Moon's. spiritual and political agenda.

Sometimes that support is direct, as. when Moon's nonprofit organizations. contribute to conservative political and. social causes with financial donations, staff and publicity. And sometimes it's. indirect, as when Moon sponsored groups. stage academic, religious and cultural. conferences. inviting professors, clergy, media. executives and other opinion shapers to. meetings all expenses paid. Oh, that. reminds you of Turning Point USA Faith. I told you they were embarking on this. pastor summit. They were going to bring.

all of these Christian Zionist. influencers, training. They had a pastor. summit. um Rob McCoy, as I showed you that. Sean. Feucht, they were going to lead this up. Pumping in money. This is what was. growing, Turning Point Faith, which was. spun out of Liberty University. So this. feels especially relevant. It goes on to say that they'll have a. conference on the essence of religious. founders. Uh this is a guy who was an. ex-Catholic priest. His name was. Borderlin. Uh he says, {quote} They'll have a. conference on the essence of religious.

founders like Buddha, Jesus. and then Moon who gets a room full of. academics to sit there. He gets his picture taken with them. He. gets credibility. They get to have their. conference. It's all very messy, end. quote. Borderlin, like many people who. have received some of Moon's generous. bounty. has never been able to figure out the. blizzard of organizations that make up. Moon Inc. He says, {quote} My money is never from. the church itself. It's always the. international something or another.

Uh that's interesting. Because when we started looking into. Operation Mockingbird, we had that lead. that it was coming from one of these. fellowship international fellowships or. whatever I I CJF, I don't remember what. it was. Point is is like there's all. these. international fellowship of Christians. and Jews and they're pumping money with. an explicit purpose. In fact, you'll be. very proud to know that when I worked. for the Daily Wire, they used to bring. me companies like ad reads and they. brought me the International Fellowship.

of Christian and Jews to read ads for. And so I said to my producer at the time. I said, "Well, what is this actually? Let's pull it up." Okay, cuz I was. allowed to decline an ad read if I had a. moral. if if if I if I felt like I was morally. averse to it. And so. I looked pulled up the website and it. was basically, "Here's what you. Christians can do for Jews." And I said, "This doesn't feel like a fellowship. So, no.". I'm a Christian. I'm going to get to work. We have tons. of issues. If they're not telling us. anything they're going to do in the. Congo.

um or how they're going to help with. what's going on all around the world. Armenia. So, why would I just like. read ads for it? There's something going. on with that organization, by the way. They've got their hands in a lot. Anyways, that's how they were doing. this. They were paying this guy, but it. wasn't actually coming from Moon. uh Moon's church. It was coming from. international something or another. That's how you hide the money. It goes on to read, "On one corridor, the international international. coalition for religious freedom, the. group that Borderland said signs his. checks these days, shares a suite with the Martial Arts.

Federation for World Peace and a company. called Washington Times Aviation. The. only person in the suite on a recent. visit was a Korean man who spoke little. English saying, 'I am Martial Arts. Federation. I work for father.'". Okay. Then tells us that Moon's Washington. enterprises range from a ballet academy. to an architectural molding company to. magazines.

They said, quote, "The idea was that. we'd be like Disney controlling all. kinds of media working on behalf of God. always.". Always. Paquette, whose job gave him access to. financial information about several. church-related businesses, said he. believed that virtually none of the uni-. Unification's US operations is. profitable. They have all these. businesses and none of them are. profitable. Where's the money coming. from? How's that work actually? And. isn't this starting to sound like the. seven mountain mandate? These pastors,

we got to have an interest in culturally. here and there. We've got to be. everywhere. And Turning Point's going to help us get. there. It's very interesting. What Where is the. money coming from and where is it going? Was one of Charlie Kirk's last questions. before he was assassinated. He. established DOVE to determine that. answer. They decided to investigate Moon. organization 1978 in 1978 congressional. investigation into the Moon organization. concluded that, quote, "The Unification. Church. and numerous other religious and secular.

organizations headed by Sun Moon. constitute essentially one international. organization that moved money freely. among its entities.". SEC filings show that the cash. uh for Nostalgia, that's one of their. companies, comes through a chain of. companies that lead to the Unification. Church International. It's a vertically. integrated operation that is common in. Moon's empire.

He goes on to tell us, this is my. favorite quotation. Cuz it's it's just so megachurch vibes. Like, you know, you find $300,000 behind. um a sink or toilet. Tells us, quote, "Rev Moon sent bags of cash, big fat. bags, stacks and stacks of hundreds from. Korea and Japan to Manhattan Center. The church's recording studio in New. York City, Paquette said. Whenever we. asked where that money was coming from, the answer.

was that it came from the father.". Okay. I think we're we're good on that. I'm. sure it did. The wealth of Unification's worldwide. economic empire remains a closely. guarded secret. Lawrence Zillioux, a. private investigator who has studied the. church for more than a decade, has. concluded from church documents that the. Unification Church International, the. main holding company for Moon's US. businesses, exceeded $500 million in the mid-1980s.

Man, who took Moon Inc. to the next. level? But the church's wealth has always been. centered in Asia. A detailed analysis by the Far Eastern. Economic Review in 1990 valued the. church's landholdings in South Korea. alone at more than 1 billion. In recent years though, several of the. Korean companies have lost money causing. business experts there to wonder, like. their counterparts in America, where the money comes from. Charlie Kirk, where is the money coming.

from and where is it going to? Charlie. Kirk isn't in Korea, he's in Japan. And he's being told that he's there for. reasons that have to do with the. Christian faith being suppressed. And I don't think that's why they had. him there, to be honest with you. I. don't think that's why they pushed for. Charlie to go to Korea. and to Tokyo. The long-standing explanation as to. where the money comes from. uh where the money was going to. It is. Japan, not Korea, that provides the bulk. of the church's wealth, as much as 70%.

church observers estimate. They can't get to bottom of that. They. don't know. They don't know the answer. to that. Yet despite years of such legal and. financial troubles, the Unification. Movement continues to pump hundreds of. millions of dollars into existing. businesses and new ventures all around. the world. It's just a bottomless pit of. money. Nobody knows where it's coming. from. According to business analysts and. academics who study the church, Moon's most ambitious foray into the. political process in recent years.

was the American Freedom Coalition, a. conservative group that built popular. support for Colonel Oliver L. North. during the Iran. Contra probe. In addition to about $5 million, Unificationists provided the personnel. that gave the coalition its grats. grassroots strength, former church. members said. Ah, yes, of course, you. got to build. got to be able to help the colonels. Got. to have a military angle here. And so. that has been their most ambitious. building.

something that actually. helped. the Iran-Contra. People that were implicated. Tells us also in 1995, the Women's. Federation made another donation, that's. one of another arm of this church, a. donation that illustrates how Moon. supports his fellow conservatives. It. gave $3.5 million grant to the Christian. Heritage Foundation, which later brought. a portion of Liberty University's debt. rescuing Reverend Jerry Falwell. Falwell's Lynchburg, Virginia religious. school from the brink of bankruptcy.

Post has learned of more recent and. direct financial support from Moon to. Falwell. Last year, New World. Communications, which is a parent. company. of the money-losing Washington Times, lent $400,000 into Liberty at a 6%. interest according to the promissory. note. So, the point of all of this is. that to get money, it's it's a web. It's a financial web. uh that took one investigator 10 years.

to still not figure out how all of this. money is happening. And that's what it. feels like Turning Point USA has become. a very complex financial web where money. is coming in and money is going out and. every dollar is being spent and money is. going back to certain people and there. are kickbacks and it feels like very. sophisticated money laundering. When I. read what happened with Moon Inc. and I. compare it to what seems to be happening. at Turning Point USA, it feels like the. company grew bigger than Charlie Kirk.

And then they were ready to go to the. next level. Like, maybe they were. represented with an opportunity to. become Moon Inc. And maybe Charlie said, "No.". Maybe. Anyways, back to Korea. Yeah, Charlie's. last trip. He went to go meet with a. pastor. And Charlie, the way it was. pitched to Charlie, was that they were. suffering Christians are suffering in. Korea because they want to get engaged. into politics and like, you know, Christians want to vote. What Christians.

are concerned about. But again, I don't. think that's why the McCoys were pushing. for Charlie to go to Korea because. you know, they just got a Holocaust. Museum. And I don't think much Holocaust. stuff happened in Korea. Feels like maybe Korea's getting. infiltrated like America got. infiltrated. I mean, you can guess how. many how extensive the infiltration is. by guessing how how. extensive the Holocaust education is is. what I would say. That's kind of the. lesson that I'm looking back and I'm. going, "That's kind of weird. We didn't. learn about this school. We had to learn. about that.".

Yeah. They you have to establish. yourself as the ultimate victims before. you do the ultimate oppressing vibes. I. don't know. Anyways, I'll I'll let you. read about or rather see, this is the. headline from the Korean Herald, how pro-union pastor was arrested for. breaking election law. He was arrested. on September 9th. Now, to remind you, Charlie um was. there on the 4th and the 5th for the. Build Up Korea conference. So, days. later he got arrested. And the rhetoric.

that he was using is interesting. It's very interesting. Uh take a look at. this news clip. And sorry, Skyler. Turning overseas, we've been following. the case of South Korean Pastor Yoon. Bo-seon. His imprisonment has raised. concerns about religious freedom in. South Korea. The case recently gained. more attention when his son Chan spoke. in Arizona. at Turning Point USA's. spoke with him following that.

appearance. Where he spoke about his father's case. Pastor Yoon Bo-son remains jailed in. South Korea on election law charges and. has drawn attention from the Korean. administration for his stance on. biblical truths. So firstly, I would like to thank CBN. News for covering my father's news when. it was mostly needed. And that's when I. believe a lot of Christians in the. states especially starting to pick up my. father's story.

I think this is a great opportunity for. Americans themselves to be able to. realize what's at stake and what we are. to do as brothers and sisters in Christ. As a show of support, the organization. Advocates for Faith and Freedom has. launched a petition for a fair legal. process in Pastor Son's case. Support. from Americans is also growing. That. includes the late Charlie Kirk who met. Pastor Son in Seoul at a conference. My.

father was able to share what's. happening in Korea recently, especially. to the Christian leaders including. himself. And also he's possible the possibility. that my father would get could get. arrested. And um in fact, my father got. arrested two days after he met Charlie. Charlie made sure that he will use his. platform and his voice to let the whole. world and America know that this is. happening in South Korea and.

this was important for him because. it was an example what would happen if. you don't speak for biblical truth. So just so you know, why was he. arrested? Well, he was accused of. violating the public official election. act and the local education autonomy act. prior to attending a court hearing on. Monday. for on the warrant for his arrest, the. conservative pastor participated in a. protest that was held by Christian. groups in which he said that the state.

is quote, "The same as Hitler and the. Nazis." End quote. And his arrest uh. would be a confirmation of his claim. according to this article. He shouted. the words that Lee Jae-myung has to die. for Korea to live. Fighting Nazis, guys. Like everybody everywhere is fighting. Nazis all times. It's just the only. thing that's ever happened in the. history of the world is these Nazis and. it it obviously if you don't allow. this museum to come in and allow.

Christians to have a leg here, Christians. well, then obviously the Holocaust is. going to happen again. I think it's it's. pretty sound. This all feels right to me. If I had to today. uh give you my best guess as to why. Charlie Kirk was assassinated. it's because an offer came to him. uh to become the next Moon, to turn. Turning Point, which is already a. hundred million dollar organization into. a multi-billion dollar.

um organization like in real estates and. purchasing businesses and doing all. sorts of things, working with the. military. um. and the top politicians in the world. And you just turn the other way, don't. ask questions about where the money's. coming from or how you're getting the. money, just keep things afloat. and keep poisoning the minds of the. youth. And keep saying that you're doing all. this in the name of the Lord. Cuz you. know, why not? If Moon could traffic. help the CIA traffic.

uh. in the name of the Lord, why why. couldn't Charlie Kirk's organization do. that? The hell was Charlie Kirk doing in. Korea? Okay? This is my best guess. I think. this is what Charlie Kirk said no to. I think this is what Charlie Kirk turned. down. And I would imagine that if you're. his lieutenants and you're thinking this. is a lot of money, a big payday. uh. you might betray him. You might betray.

him for that. So. Uh that's all I have for you today, very. long episode but a very important. episode to see how all of this comes. together. We're going to take a break. before I read some of your questions. Do you owe back taxes or maybe you. haven't filed taxes in years? Well, now. is the time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around. abolishing the income tax system, the. IRS is fighting back and proving that. they want to be here to stay by becoming. even more aggressive than they've ever. been. They are sending out more. collection notices, filing more tax.

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and we are we've been under the spell of. a psychological operation. That is what happened here. These people. are not pastors, these people are. soldiers. Uh these people are not. influencers, these people are soldiers. And the war is on us, the war is for. your mind. And you can recognize this. very simply, right? You cannot be a. Christian and ignore what's happening in. Gaza. You can't just pretend that that's. okay. Uh you cannot be a Christian and. not pursue truth or try to demonize. those who pursue it. I think that's. that's self-evident, right? And um.

yeah, I hope that this episode has woke. has woken a lot. of people up. I hope people have been. awakened to how severely all of us have. been manipulated, myself included. I. will never unsee this and it is a. cancer. It really is a cancer. If you'd like to support us, our. independent work because we are not. receiving money from Moon Inc. We do. have new merch on the website, small. team uh but I feel like we're the little. engine that could here. Harara, you can.

buy a hard copy autographed bundle now. available on our shop. Both of my books, Make Me a Sandwich and Blackout, hand-signed by me. You can also be sure. to check out our Spanish, Portuguese and. French channels now, link in the. description. I'll read our top comment from. yesterday's episode. Somebody wrote, "This is really funny. Ben Shapiro is the type of guy that. wakes you up to tell you that he's going. to sleep.". Absolutely hilarious. Yeah, they're doing more releasing. content on my old Instagram channel. It.

is bonkers, it really is but they are. also just not relevant anymore. Vera Black Designs writes, "Hey Candace, so Dan Fleuette's hand signals and the. guy in brown in the front row that. pulled his sleeves at the exact time. that Charlie's life was taken, do you. think there was something there or is it. a coincidence?" I don't believe it was a. coincidence. Much you're talking. referring to Rip Rick Cutler. Yes, he. has a very complicated history. We. haven't even gone into him, uh his. history of the DOD, his family's. history. Listen, at the end of the day.

I feel strongly that an operation to. assassinate Charlie Kirk took place on. that day and people are implicated. That's the how we're still working on. I think we've discovered the why. It it. makes the whole story make sense what. was going on, Charlie, the dodge, uh the. offer from BB net Yahoo, the weird. uh possession that overtook Christian. Zionists to tell you that investigating. this would be completely wrong. I feel like Moon Inc. passed his. prologue on that one. Jennifer K8033.

writes, "Candace, have you seen or watched the. work that John Bray has done regarding. his theory on Charlie? It is pretty. compelling. I pray for you and your. family. Stay stay safe and thank you for. apologizing to the horse." Yeah, I'm sorry to the horse again. Out of control, I was out of control. But Ben is still fake and gay. Yes, I have seen John Bray and the work. that he's doing. I find it to be very. compelling as well and I have been. communicating with him behind the. scenes. There's so much happening and.

there are so many rabbit holes to go. under and again, that's under the. category category of the how and until I. feel totally certain about how it was. accomplished, I don't want to produce a. theory because I'm under so much. scrutiny if I say one thing and I get. one thing wrong, uh. then they. The why I feel certain about. I. suggested uh that it was trafficking. when I started looking at the route of. the Egyptian planes and how they were. tracking Turning Point USA USA faith and.

pastors for years and this sort of. infiltration and overtaking of Turning. Point USA that this faith. faith just came on very suddenly like. that's not what we were doing Charlie. and I were going around talking about. free markets and capitalism. I blinked. and suddenly it was everything was about. the Lord and everybody is talking about. the Lord and but spiritually you're like. this doesn't feel like this is about. truth or honesty or Jesus Christ at all. actually. Actually feels like you're. being controlled by people who hate.

Jesus Christ actually. Just a vibe that I get. This. person writes look into Paul E. Vallely. Vallely. I did already retired army intel. officer. He co-wrote the book Mind War. with Michael Aquino Aquino who was an. army intel psychological operations. officer and an avowed Satanist. Cuz Paul. Vallely is also on the advisory board of.

Turning Point USA. Well, it doesn't. matter as long as you got a big enough. check as we've learned who cares if he. worships Satan, okay? They're doing the kind of Christianity. that can be bought clearly. And yes, that is true by the way cuz I. have looked into that. B. James actually I should add that. scholars to make a note to military. connections here because I do believe. that he has. some connection to Fort Huachuca as. well. As we dive back into that. B. James writes hi Candace my girlfriend. and I listen to you every episode while.

we are at work and then we talk about. when we get home. It would mean the. world to her if you could just say a. quick hello to Christian. Hi Christian. I hope you didn't misspell your name. Is. it Christina cuz it could have been. Christina and he could have just. misfired there. Whether you are. Christian or you are Christina or you. are a Christian Christina, I would like. to say hello to you and thank you guys. for watching the episode every day. I. really appreciate that. All of you I appreciate you all so much. I loved yesterday seeing Maggie's. Instagram blow up. That was awesome. She. deserved that. I love that for her.

making the difficult decision at the. time but making the right decision. You. should always be rewarded for that. Free our speech rights Turning Point. USA. Nothing to see here. Yeah, never anything to see but. pyrotechnics. Living for his glory daily. writes this is why you have to look at. Ferris and Dan Bongino explains another. reason for Ben Shapiro's push against. you and the push to get into Turning. Point. I'm just a mom who is not blind. to the lies anymore sending my research. tonight. That's funny you say that.

because I had a dream. It was so clear. I promise you can actually fact check. this with. Village Crazy Lady my girl Mel over on X. because I woke my husband up. It was. after Ben first attacked me and I was. like that's weird. I don't know what his. investment is in this and I had another. vivid dream. The dream was so vivid. It. was like if you've ever seen Harry. Potter and it like when they have like. the chessboard scene. and they're having a wizard war but. they're using they're playing a game of. chess. It was basically a game of chess and.

Ben was one of the pieces and what I saw. in this dream or how I felt cuz you know. there's no words in this is that he was. being sent out and I woke up at woke up. at 4:00 a.m. in the morning and I said I. just had a dream that we have to look. into the Wilkes brothers. So weird that. Ben the reason he's sending out that. he's being sent out is cuz the Wilkes. brothers are freaking out about. something. Swear to you. Mel Village Crazy Lady can show you the. texts. I then woke up and I messaged I. woke up and I. got started and Mel messaged me and she.

said something about the seven mouth. mountain mandate and then she mentioned. the Wilkes brothers and I was like that. is so crazy that you're messaging me. this because I had a dream at 4:00 a.m. They were not on my mind at all. I don't. actually really know anything about. them. It's not like they've ever been. like a part of the Daily Wire operations. or anything. But they do fund PragerU. They do fund. the turning. I don't sorry I said Turning Point USA. They do fund PragerU and they do fund. the Daily Wire and they are not. you know, evangelical Christians. They. fund the mega churches. They started Rob.

McCoy's church actually. They funded it. So that was interesting which is what. she was telling me. I looked into it and. all that's true. Anyways, I know I'm not. allowed to talk about my dreams before. everyone starts freaking out. But. I'm going to still talk about my dreams. especially when they're that vivid and I. have never dreamed more vividly. and more precisely than. since Charlie Kirk has been. assassinated. It's it's unbelievable. It's it was disturbing me in the weeks. after his death how vivid the dreams. were how I was being woken up from my. sleep. I imagine this is exactly what Charlie. was going through in 2018 when when he.

was having visions that he was going to. die. That's kind of what's happening to. me now about different things that have. happened um in this investigation or you. know, things that were happening with. Charlie. Anyways, for whatever that's. worth. And just reminding you guys as before we. sign off that we have a two-hour book. club tomorrow. We will not have an. episode but we will have a two-hour book. club cuz we're going back to not doing. Friday episodes unless we do an. occasional thing that we toss you. And. that's to make up for the book club that. we missed at the end of last year. So it.

will be at 4:00 p.m. Eastern. If you. have not signed up to the book club, you. should. We get to get much deeper into. these topics and you can do that by just. going to CandaceOwens.com. Beyond that you guys, we will see you on. Monday.