September 10th: The OTHER Shooting That The Media Forgot. | Candace Ep 337

All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. I'm. just going to ask the question that's on. my mind, which is what goes on in. Colorado? I mean, someone had mentioned to me, actually a few of you guys had suggested. that we may have kicked the hornet's. nest somehow when we began speaking. about Victor Marx, right? His alleged. ties to Israel, the story we heard from. Corby Hall, his inexplicable. uh relationship to Erica. That's when all of these random attacks. kind of started up against me and my.

family, as though they were leveling up. to sort of distract us. Trump suddenly. posting my face on Time magazine calling. me the most vile person of the year. Really? Jeffrey Epstein didn't deserve that. honor? They then send out the wacky Larry. Loomer. Yeah, let's not lose focus, actually. Colorado, where Victor Marx is. currently running for governor, it is a. beautiful state. Actually ranked, I. believe, the healthiest state in the. union. The state is also rich in the wrong kind. of American history.

And there was, in fact, another shooting. that took place on September 10th that. we should briefly discuss. Also, we finally received a name of the. Hollywood deepfake company that we can. confirm Turning Point USA uh was meeting. with following Charlie's tragic passing. We're going to show you what this. company is capable of, and I'm going to. allow you to draw your own conclusions. And lastly, uh the admission from. Paramount Tactical, Gary Melton, that.

one of the children in Erica's Fort. Huachuca alibi photo is not hers, is not. a subtle admission. Cuz it looks like the internet was right. again. Welcome back to Candace. >> [music]. >> I still have a lot of questions about.

Victor Marx. You know, I went off to. Italy to do my confirmation, got. distracted. I had mentioned to you that. despite him doing all those public posts. about me, he didn't respond to. uh my Instagram message. And then he. did. I just checked actually saying he. did while I was in Italy. He finally. answered and so I'm going to set a time. for him to at least attempt to set a. time for him to appear on the show and. answer some questions. Question number. one I probably have is why was Victor. Marx the first documented.

public person to do a video announcing. that Charlie had passed long before the. President of the United States or. anybody else. Who was it that told him that Charlie. was dead? Right? We may or may not get a solid. answer to that, but it certainly. registers to me as odd. Also, when and how did he get so close. to Erica? Dr. Kirk. So close in fact that he was. in her immediate circle of comfort after. her husband was brutally murdered in. front of the entire world. As soon as.

she flew back home to Arizona, he was. there to offer her a hug in her home. I. might add, her personal space. And I have since learned that at some. point Charlie and Victor Marx had a real. falling out. The reason why I'm not. sure. Uh but it was apparently bad enough. according to insiders at Turning Point. USA that Charlie and Victor actually. stopped following one another on social. media for a period of time. So I'll I'll. ask rhetorically, uh when and why and. how. did Erica remain or become so close to.

Victor Marx? Um because on the basis of the stories. that we've heard about him, some of them. from Victor himself, he seems to me to. be a bit dangerous, right? A tad. unstable, if if I may. I don't really buy his pastoral act for. 1 minute. And we checked and it appears that the. last time Victor Marx had done anything. publicly with Charlie, appeared on. Charlie's show, it was in October of. 2023. Hmm, what happened in October of.

2023? Well, Victor Marx appeared on the. Charlie Kirk show to provide Charlie. with frontline reporting. from you guessed it, Israel, right after. October 7th. Yes, naturally, of course, duh, Israel. Victor Marx went straight. there despite its heightened security. states, um due to his contacts in the. IDF. He was able to get there. Don't. believe me? Take a listen to Victor. Victor,

you are live in Israel. Give us a. frontline report. I can tell you all right now, it's worse. than anyone can imagine. Um. today I was at the festival field, and. they're not allowing anybody in, but the. relationships that we have with special. forces commanders here with the IDF um. are extensive and they are taking us to. places so that we can tell the world and. America especially what has happened.

And you know, I haven't exactly hunted. down this rumor, but I did receive. I received a few tips into our inbox. that that is the reason that people who. attended church were given as to why. some of these pastors knew Charlie was. dead before somebody else because of. their contacts in the IDF. Again, I need. to chase down those leads, but yeah, they have a. pretty good intel uh certainly. They I. would imagine Israeli intelligence may.

have known first somehow. I wonder why they were interested. Who. knows? Anyway, is it fair at least after listening to. that to suggest that Corby Hall might. have been telling the truth about Victor. Marx potentially doing some work trying. to secure weaponry on behalf of Israel, on behalf of the IDF, allegedly, maybe? I think it's a fair assumption. Anyway, now we know Victor is running. for governor of Colorado inspired by, according to him, Charlie's untimely. death. Something overtook him, he had to. do something, and that something was to. run for the governor of Colorado. Okay,

and Colorado is interesting for a lot of. reasons. On background, for those of you. that do not live here, we Americans recognize it as, sadly, the. birthplace of school shootings. No one could forget Columbine. I was very young and it still feels so. raw, so shocking. I remember crowding. around the big bulky screen TV waiting. for information to come through the. mainstream media. Beyond that, not too far away, obviously, in Aurora, Colorado, there.

was one of the more infamous. shootings, mass shootings, Batman Batman. themed shooting when The Dark Knight. came out. It took place in a theater. And we shouldn't forget here that Erica. Kirk's friend was there. At the shooting in the movie theater. Erica seems to have bad luck that way. when it comes to shootings. Now, we can. make an educated guess as to who that. friend was, but we still don't know for. certain. that person's identity or how they were. involved. Were they Did they get hurt? I.

don't know. Now, regarding Colorado, we also know. that Charlie was supposed to be in. Colorado the next day, right? On. September 11th, immediately following. UVU, his next event, which was for some. reason barely publicized, was to take. place at Charis Bible College. September 11th. We we broke the story, actually. We also broke the story that a. security plan was not put in place for. that event, which is remarkable.

And Brian Harpole has all but confirmed. our reporting in his court filing. against me. Look at what he wrote. regarding Charis Bible. He said, "According to Owens' supposed tipster, there was, {quote} no security plan in. place at Charis Bible College claiming. that it was odd that Harpole's team. planned Kirk's security strategy for. Utah Valley University 2 weeks in. advance, but failed to contact the chief. of police for Woodland Colorado to plan. security for Charis Bible College. Owens specifically asked quote why. didn't Dan Flood and Brian Harpole and.

Turning Point USA's security have any. coordination with police departments up. in Colorado if this is what they. normally do? Question mark. Then they put in quotations here, I mean. in parentheses, Harpole did not. coordinate with Charis Bible College nor. the Woodland Police Department because. he was not advised that Charlie would be. visiting the school. It was not uncommon for Charlie to visit. universities with only Dan Flood. Really? I think they just keep forgetting that. like I went on tour with Charlie for 3. years. That that's uncommon.

I don't know if it's happened. I'm sure. maybe we're going to find out in court. if it's happened, but it certainly would. be described as uncommon. There just be one person in security. at a college event. And he had no idea, didn't even had no. You've been with Charlie for years. and you had no idea that that was his. next stop? That still strikes me as odd. Doesn't. matter if you put it in a filing, doesn't make it. uh suddenly oh I I. now have clarity on the issue. He says.

it's fine. I'm going to show you guys by the way. this blurb in the local media in. Colorado 7 days after Charlie died on. September 17th clarifying and confirming. that he was in fact due to speak there. the next day. Here it is. Um it says in the corner of the college. had planned to host Kirk after one day. after Wednesday's first stop of his. American comeback tour at the Utah. Valley University where he was shot and. killed while answering a question from. an audience member. Yeah. Woodland Park event honors his legacy. Uh now I should mention by the way in.

case you're wondering regarding Charis. Bible College, uh the founder of it is. this guy Andrew Wommack and you're. thinking is he former military? Of. course. Don't be silly. Grow up. There's. military ties everywhere, okay? Now, after Charis Bible, Charlie was due. to meet up as we learned with Erica at. Colorado State University, which is. situated at Fort Collins. Um Erica. confirmed that in her sit-down with.

Jesse Waters. But he never made it. obviously to either one of those events. Something else about Colorado that's. interesting is that one of the planes. that Turning Point USA uses, and I want. to be clear here, uh more specifically the plane that. Charlie himself used for basically all. of 2023. Right after Mikey McCoy becomes the. chief of staff, this plane, um uh tail number 9582. MM, Charlie begins using this plane. All.

through 2025 is really kind of only. towards the end that he switched to the. other plane that he used that day. But. his his plane was initially this one. that he was using uh to go to every. event all across the country. But on the. day of Charlie's assassination, we know. Charlie did not take that plane to. Provo, but someone did. Someone known to. Turning Point USA most certainly did. take that plane. N582 MM. Uh and they got there to Provo. eventually after the shooting. I'm. actually going to tell you its flights.

that day in general. Again, this used to. be Charlie's main plane. N582 MM, it is still tied to Paradise. Jets, which the other plane is tied to. as well, the one that he did take that. day. Um you can see that 25 minutes before. Charlie was shot, the plane departs Denver, Colorado. Um that's at 11:58 a.m. Mountain Time. And then it heads to a military base. in Pierre, South Dakota. South Dakota is.

one of my Egyptian plane stops. Uh it lands at 12:56 p.m. Mountain time. So, it departs 25 minutes before Charlie. gets shot from Denver, Colorado, and. then it lands into Pierre, South Dakota. about 23 minutes. uh after Charlie was shot. Okay? And then whoever it is that's aboard. this plane, who's a person known to. Turning Point USA, uh stayed in South. Dakota for about 50 minutes before. heading onward to Chicago, Illinois for. what looks like a pickup, and then they. went straight to Provo, Utah landing at.

6:57 p.m. And then that plane stays. overnight. I want to again stress this. plane is known to Turning Point USA. Somebody aboard that plane knows. Charlie. After it stayed overnight in Provo on. September 10th, it then went back to. Pierre, South Dakota. Again, nothing. there, really, in the Dakotas other than. the military base. Uh anyway, uh Colorado, as I've just seen, it just. routinely comes up in the story. I'm.

just interested in what goes on in. Colorado, and it would definitely be. interesting to know who affiliated with. Turning Point USA was aboard that plane. from Denver that took off 25 minutes. before Charlie got shot headed for a. military base. Switching gears here, same topic, really. You may have remembered that on. September 10th at almost the exact same. time, down to the minute, that Charlie. was shot, there was another shooting in. Colorado at a high school, Evergreen. High School.

And it sort of disappeared from the. national media cycle. Of course, local. media stayed on this somewhat, but not. to the satisfaction of the parents that. went to the school. I know, I received a. flurry of emails, uh did not really look. into it. Parents that were not. satisfied, who were requesting. information, they were not getting. information, and uh you know, I didn't. really have time to look into it, uh but I do think that it's worth. discussing so that you kind of know what. happened. The official story is that a 16-year-old.

student who attended Evergreen High. School named Desmond Holly showed up to. school with a Smith & Wesson .38 special. revolver at 12:21. 2 minutes before Charlie. Uh he he shot. a 14-year-old student at close range. while still inside of the school. Then. Desmond leaves the school building. He. crosses the foot football field. and comes across a second student. That. student's name is Matthew Silverstone. And he uh shoots him at close range.

Shoots him once in the head, I believe, also in the chest. And he does this at the intersection of. South Olive Road and Buffalo Park Road. Uh a roofer, a guy who's literally. working on roofs in construction, a man. named Delmar Martinez, filmed this. initial confrontation. And in Martinez's. footage, which I'm I'm going to show you. the interview with Martinez, Holly. Desmond Holly is holding Matt. Silverstone by the neck, shoots him, then proceeds up the driveway. And then.

the video, Delmar's video, captures. deputies shouting commands like drop the. gun. And one deputy is is staying behind. to provide aid to Matthew Silverstone. while remaining law enforcement officers. are following the shooter up the. driveway. Now, when the officers and uh. Desmond Holly had both moved out of. frame, out of the view of the roofer's. camera, a final shot rings out. Not. captured by the camera, it was. Desmond shooting himself.

The sheriff's office has since confirmed. that only the deputies were the. witnesses to Holly shooting himself. after they gave their commands. Okay. So, here are just a couple of things, and uh they have. very recently, uh I mean, within the. last few days, done a a massive document. dump, finally, which people have to go. through and confirm. But, I can just. tell you some things off the bat that. locals and parents at the school found. immediately odd about the shooting and. the fact that they're just now getting. any sorts of answers and more documents. It's a long time to wait. You know, if.

that was your kids that were attending. the school, you could understand why. these parents were frustrated and were. emailing me asking me to take a look. into it. One of the greater mysteries of the. story is is the first 911 call. And this is I'm quoting this from an. email that I received. One detail. she said she writes that has never been. publicly clarified is who actually made. the first 911 call and from where that. call was placed. The call came in at 12:22, a full minute after the first shot was. fired. The description given to the.

dispatcher was unnervingly calm and. measured. They said, quote, "Something. bad is going on a half mile south of. Evergreen Lake.". This is a geographic reference rather. than a direct report of gunshots from. someone inside the building. The. caller's identity, the type of device. used, and the precise location the call. originated from. have never been publicly disclosed. That right there just to me is wacky. I'm going to agree with this person that. that's just What do you mean? Like. that's a very strange call. Why are you.

not disclosing who that came in from? Very easy. Number two, another weird thing, uh the. general response in general. This uh. sorry, the the response in general. This. woman writes, quote, "During the. response to the Evergreen shooting, officers from mutual aid jurisdictions, people just coming in from other. jurisdictions, who arrived on scene went. door-to-door knocking and verbally. identifying themselves as police and. SWAT and asking teachers and students to. open up. That is the opposite of what.

the established lockdown protocol. requires. The correct procedure, the one. that that has been the standard since. Columbine, is that students and teachers. stay behind locked doors no matter what. You do not open for anyone. And law. enforcement uses school-provided keys to. enter. You do not open the door, period. Not for anybody knocking, not even for. someone saying that they're a cop. The. Jefferson County Sheriff's Office. actually acknowledged this in their. October 10th update and said that. Jefferson County's deputies followed the. protocol correctly, and it was the.

outside or mutual aid officers from. neighboring agencies who started going. door-to-door asking people to open up. And uh the Sheriff's Office specifically. credited the teachers and the students. for doing the right thing by ignoring. those requests and staying locked. Uh the Sheriff's public explanation, essentially placing the blame on. inter-agency coordination without naming. which agency specifically sent the. door-knocking officers or which agency. specifically. um.

or or whether any accountability. followed is odd. It's notable that Evergreen High School. is located in the same county where the. Columbine High School massacre occurred. So, the Columbine lessons were very well. learned in Jefferson County. The entire. foundation of modern school lockdown. protocol nationwide was structured upon. the post-Columbine era of school safety. training. The blueprint for standard protocol that. started 26 years ago with Columbine was. created and built largely around this. particular county's experience.

Why aren't we revealing who went. door-to-door, knocked, and said, "I'm a. police officer, open up"? I don't know. Another odd detail regarding that roofer. who captured the footage of the scuffle. which eventually led to the suicide of. the shooter, but he missed the suicide. of the shooter, and he also says he. didn't see the suicide of the shooter. Like I said, Delmar Martinez, his story. is that he was working a local job, roofing, building, and uh was either coming from or going. to his lunch break.

Uh but his story about how he captured. the footage, 10 minutes of footage, which like I said, at no point uh shows. Deshaun Holly's suicide, uh just the. police officers and the scuffle, and. rendering aid to Matthew Stone, is odd. Uh take a listen to the story that he. tells on the news. In that moment, I didn't know how to. react. >> It's a feeling families, students, and. the Evergreen community share as they. grapple with emotions and questions in. the days since the shooting at Evergreen.

High School. I got out of the car and started to. film. For Delmer Martinez, it's grappling with. what he witnessed and caught on camera. as the tragedy unfolded. I realized later that this was a bigger. issue. Martinez tells CBS Colorado he. and another coworker were working a. roofing job in Evergreen. They were. driving along Buffalo Park Road near. Olive Road when a police officer sped. past them and got out of their car. It was there where we saw a young person. fighting. He came out holding another.

student by the neck, and the police was. saying something for him to stop. And. so, the student shot at the other teen. and threw him. He threw him to the. ground. Martinez started recording while. they were stopped on the side of the. road. The police didn't know how to react, whether to attend to the teen on the. ground or follow the other one. Videos. shared by Martinez show what happened. after. He says the teen suspect shot the. other student. Other officers quickly. arrived on scene, and one of them. followed the suspect up a dirt driveway. He went off. He went off walking about.

10 m. Officers appear to tell the suspect to. put his weapon down. That's when Martinez says he heard a. gunshot. Everything lasted about 10. minutes. We've blurred out the right. side of the video where another officer. was performing first aid. We wanted to leave, but there wasn't. anywhere we could go. Martinez says they. didn't have cell reception at that. location and didn't know what was. happening to the students. We didn't realize until 5:30 that we. were filming something that was a lot. more serious. In hindsight, he wishes he.

could have done more to help in that. moment. I was scared. It didn't cross my mind to. help. But credit to the police for doing. everything they could in that moment to. try to get to the scene and de-escalate. the situation. So right off the bat, uh. maybe that all will check out, but right. off the bat when I heard this story I'm. like, wait, a police officer sped past. you and pulled over and you just pulled. over, too? I've heard of rubbernecking, but I I I. genuinely have never heard of a police. officer speeds past you, pulls over, and. you go, I'm just going to pull over,

too, and just start filming. Okay, interesting, but this is the next part. is actually even more odd uh because you. see he mentions the fact that he's a. roofer and that he was working a job in. Evergreen. It's a very tight-knit. community. Well, locals, who were very interested. in this, began searching and they could. not determine what house he and his. coworkers were working on or what. contractor they were working for. So I. don't know if you if you know this, but. it is required by law. You can't just go. roofing and building a house. And this.

is the case also in Evergreen without. legally filing for a permit to do work. with the city and or the town. Everywhere I've ever lived, that's that. is uh the circumstance and certainly. they confirmed it is the law here. So. they should be able to do a quick permit. search in Evergreen and say, oh, they. were working on Joe's house down the. street and went on their lunch break. Can't find anything. Researched every. house to see uh what in Evergreen, which. house he was working on. Can't determine it. And journalists seem uninterested in. determining that answer as well. Seems.

like a lead that should be chased. I. certainly, if I was living in Evergreen, would want to know. No, but what house. were you actually working on? Uh lastly, a point that's odd about this. story, and there are many points that. are odd, so I'm just kind of going. through them quickly with here quickly. here with you here. The school resource. officer, person that's supposed to be. there, um obviously, you know, Colby Hall. Though that was the interest of Victor. Marks, he wanted to put a full day RO. into the hands of every school resource. officer. Well, Evergreen High School uh did have.

a full-time school resource officer. position, but the deputy that was. assigned to that role happened to be on. medical leave at the time of the. shooting. So, a different dep- deputy, uh whose primary assignment was actually. another high school that was 9 mi away, Conifer High School, was filling in. part-time. So, he was working as the. uh school officer for both Conifer High. School and Evergreen. He was the only one that was on duty on. the day of the shooting, and initially. the reporting came out and said that the.

SRO deputy left Evergreen campus around. 10:30 a.m. because he was responding to. a nearby traffic crash. And so, he was off campus when the. shooting started at 12:21. Now, this reporting turned out to be. inaccurate. They had to make. adjustments. They had to correct the. sequence. And they said, "No, actually. what happened was the uh the sheriff's. office revised this. The deputy deputy. had actually started his morning at. Conifer. Then he made the drive to. Evergreen. He stayed at Evergreen for. about an hour. Then he drove back to.

Conifer. Then he was dispatched uh from. Conifer High School uh to a car crash. And while en route to that car crash, that's when the call came in about the. Evergreen shooting.". And he turned around and started heading. toward Evergreen. Now, that's another lead that hasn't been. followed up on because nobody can find. this alleged crash that he got. dispatched to. Location of the crash he was originally. dispatched to was never publicly. released. Anything confirming that. information has not been found by people.

who are around-the-clock working to. confirm these details. Um it There's been no coverage about a. crash that took place. Maybe you could. say, "Well, they were overwhelmed with. the shooting." Perhaps. No crash report. number, no location, no other parties. involved. It was reported, but never. independently corroborated. So, there. are a lot of reasons why people are not. um feeling confident in what happened. another shooting in Colorado. And the. fact that it took place so close to the. Charlie Kirk shooting is of interest. It. again, it could have nothing to do with.

Charlie Kirk shooting. It could just be. an unhappy consequence. But we had to. received enough emails about it. People, especially when we started bringing up. Victor Marx in Colorado in general, and. I thought, let me just kind of introduce. that to a a a more national audience who. may not have been paying attention to. it. Uh like I said, there has recently. been a huge document dump. Let's hope it. provides more clarity. um and we will eventually see whether or. not that's true. We're going to take a. brief break here uh before I tell you a. bit about this AI company, Hollywood AI.

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the chat. Miami2388 writes, "I feel so. validated about the fake picture of. Erika's kids. I have been screaming. since it was released." So, let me back. up and tell you, and you should feel. validated, Miami. What she's referring. to, I touched upon it briefly yesterday, but during the Fort Wat Chuca madness, right, when I really was just focused on. the Brian Harpole maybe being at this. meeting on the 9th, less focused on why. Erika may have been at a hotel. She. wasn't seen with Brian Harpole if.

Mitch's memory is to be believed. Um. what kind of exploded the Fort Wat Chuca. story was this unnecessary coordination. that was discovered. between Andrew Colbet, who was supposed. to have been, you know, moved away from PR because he was. failing miserably at it. They brought in. crisis PR, at least that's what Erika. told me. Uh and Erika coordinating with. Andrew Colbet to get an alibi. for Fort Wat Chuca. to this obscure YouTuber. Paramount.

Tactical, Gary Melton. Says he's, you. know, former Green Beret. He's very thick, and I'm I'm talking. like not a lot of thoughts happening. Um. >> [snorts]. >> Uh he he thinks he's putting puzzles. together, but I I just don't think that. that's his thing. And uh so, it was very weird they were. coordinating with this guy in general. when they were everything was good. between us at that time. They could have. just emailed me and said, "Hey, I saw. you talking to this guy, Mitch. He. thought Erica was here here's her alibi. Here's where she was actually on the 8th. and the 9th.". And um so when this moment was.

discovered and we can uh get ready to. pull in this clip, it was it was quite. shocking to see that they were. coordinating. That we have Erica and Andrew Cole that. coordinating with her on that actual and. they wanted to keep that on the DL, of. course, because Gary's brain is not. firing very quickly. He accidentally. read the alibi live on air and it was. one of these. moments. Take a listen to Gary. on his thought-provoking show. I asked.

him, "Hey, do you have proof of this?". He says, "But it's worth saying Erica. wasn't in some fort in Tucson. The. internet is going insane. She woke up. next to Charlie on the 9th, went to the. office with Charlie all day, woke him up. from a nap before Fox hit, went to dinner with Charlie. Literally, people are lunatics." And then. the next one I will show you guys that. one. Right here we have this one. And then I'll show you an up-close. picture with the metadata that we have.

on the screen itself. Um. proof she was with her kids at 8:33 a.m. Pacific time, which again. in September, Arizona's on Pacific time. Pacific time. Specific time. Uh. taking them for a walk. Earlier, I wasn't supposed to share. that, but anyways. Point being is. that's 8:33 a.m. It shows. the date on that. Sorry, Andrew. I screwed that up, man. I.

was trying to run the podcast and do. everything else. Um but again, it's proof of what's going. on here. And I'm going to share the final screen, the final picture that shows the. metadata for this. that she was indeed with the kids. Uh oh, I keep hitting the wrong button. You guys can see that. Says right at the. top, September 9th, 8:33 a.m. Case Case closed. Case closed.

He's doing his best. He's doing his best. He's. It was on. specific time Pacific time. specific time. Arizona was on specific. time. It was a very specific time in the. Pacific. But so we get we get to this moment and. you're going, "Wait a second. A lot of. things happening here that are weird.". But you could see Andrew's very clear. This is her alibi for the 9th. He also. says, which was very strange and I ended. up texting both him and Justin Streif. after this, that Erica was at the office. all day with Charlie.

She wasn't on the 9th. She has never. made that claim publicly. Actually, the. exact opposite thing is what she tells. Jesse Waters, that Charlie was in the. office all day. So she was not with him. on the 9th. We were not The 9th was not. ever in question for Erica Kirk. I. wasn't really even really questioning. what She may have had some business at. Fort Huachuca. Like I said, her parents. are in the military. She may have just. gone to a hotel for a reason. Who knows? But this moment made us go, "Hmm, this. is weird." And instantly instantly. people like Miami in the chat here. began making videos saying, "Those.

aren't her kids.". The The son is supposed to be 16 months. The daughter. These are not Erica Kirk's kids. By the. way, because critical thinking does does. not seem to be something that Gary. Mountain is able to do, this this is no. indication. Even if these were her kids. and she was covering their faces, this. would be no indication that Erica Kirk. was with them. It's a photo of the kids. by themselves. Okay? So this could be uh taken by a. nanny, right? Nanny could have taken. them somewhere and they're sending you.

the photo of Yeah, can you send me a. photo of the kids? You take that to Here. we go. This is not proof of anything, but the. thing I want you to focus on there is. they said kids. Andrew said, "Here is. proof she is with her kids.". And they did try to pass off the idea. that this was Erica's kids. And I looked. at the photo. I'm an expert at toddler hands, toddler. everything. I've got extra tall kid I. get. This This was very clearly at the very. least not her son, but I abstained. I. completely abstained from that until.

I received information from people who. would know, who know the kids very well, and said, "Not only is that not her son, it's not. her daughter." I said, "That's really Is. you're saying this is just somebody. else's kids, full stop?". And I'm not I I can't I was not willing. to allege that. I also just feel a sense. of ick when the kids are being used in. alibi. I don't want to spotlight. children, have people looking for it it. just all of that was like, "I'm just. going to abstain from it." I know deep.

down at the very least that isn't her. son. And I'm hearing from someone that. it isn't her daughter, either. But I'm going to abstain from it. Until. Gary Melton did what Gary does the best. He's He's the greatest PR firm. He. really is. He's the greatest PR firm. Not for Turning Point USA, but for the. people. He doesn't mean to be. He's. confirmed so many things by accident. He. confirmed that Mitch was at Fort. Huachuca. when [snorts] he brought on Mitch's. Mitch's son cuz you know they were going. to crush me with his past and oh, he's a.

terrible father. So don't listen. Doesn't even matter if Bryan was there. or Erica was there cuz look at it what a. terrible guy Mitch is. And then Mitch's. son confirmed that he got a phone call. on that day because the police were. called and I guess. he's kin and they reached out to him and. asked him questions about his dad. So. Gary also accidentally confirmed that. Mitch was at Fort Huachuca, which is. another hilarious moment brought to you. by Paramount not so tactical, it turns. out. So anyway, Gary Melton tweeted this a.

couple of days ago. Yes, people have been pushing and. insisting this are these are not our. kids. These are not our kids. And. someone wrote, "Is her son this big yet. or am I still stuck in the future with. Charlie's apparent 5-year-old?" I. actually never read the tweet that he. was responding to. That's very funny. Uh, again, the internet being asked not. to believe our own eyes and Paramount. Gary finally responds and says, "It's. not her son. It's her daughter with. another child. Look, mystery solved.".

Okay, don't gaslight us. You were the. people who introduced this. Um, even if. it were her actual children, it would. not have been a sufficient answer. Uh, it would not have satisfied interest as. to whether she was with her kids. Anybody can take a photo of your. children and send it to you. Uh, secondly, you presented this as concrete. poo proof case closed that Erica was. with her children. Andrew says, "Here. she is with the kids." Now, suddenly the. internet has not let go of the fact that. they don't think these are Erica's kids. and you're now.

finally copping and saying, "Okay, well, maybe we went too big on the on the kid. Too Too big on the son. It's not It's. not her son. We admit." So, it's not. proof of the kids full stop and it's not. proof that Erica is with her kids. Again, why? Why are we doing this? Why are they. being so weird? Why are they constantly. adjusting, telling lies, gaslight uh, gaslighting, being consistent, working. behind the scenes to get out something. that I was happy to just go ahead and. debunk cuz like I said, I was like, you. know, 46 maybe saw her, maybe didn't. Even if.

he did see her, doesn't mean Erica was. doing anything weird. Like that she. lives in Arizona. She has a family. that's involved militarily. That's not. weird. It would not be weird unless you. make it weird. Unless you start telling lies. That is. what makes people not trust the Turning. Point USA apparatus. It's always this a. slight pivot. You told us this. Now, we're going to pivot and give you a. different story and then basically say. to you, "How dare you recognize the. first story that we told you was not. accurate in its entirety. Just true to Turning Point. This is just.

their their formula that is failing upon. the public, I might add. Switching gears, yesterday we were. telling you that Turning Point USA, in. particular, this Marcus Wada, alleged. former arms dealer, uh he that he's already actually. incorporating AI voices into their. presentations. They're going out to. donors. They're using a voice over uh to. narrate presentations. Well, today we. can confirm to you that for a reason. that is not yet known, after Charlie's death and maybe even. before Charlie's death, but definitively.

after, Marcus. was meeting with and communicating with. Hollywood AI. uh deep fake companies, okay? They. specialize in creating deep fakes. Now, maybe if this was a conservative company. uh that specialized in making videos, you might go, "Okay, you know, uh back. when Daily Wire was saying they were. going to explode in the Hollywood, that. might make sense." But, why Turning. Point USA? I'm going to give you the. name of the company. It's VFX.

LA. Okay? VFX Los Angeles. These guys uh. were brought into Turning Point USA. Like I said, we can confirm that with. Marcus Wada. I can't confirm that they. created any content for him. Uh but, I. would like to show you on their website. what they say they specialize in. Let's. just click around, right? Here we go. Uh it [snorts] tells us here they do. voice cloning. "Yet another example of. our AI capabilities is the recreation of. a specific voice, voice cloning. Using a.

a bespoke AI model for that exact voice. There is no accent or colloquialism that. we cannot generate. Case in point, this. project for Fanatics Collectibles, where. we had to reproduce the unique timbre. and intonation of the deceased baseball. commentator Skip Caray.". Um or Skip Caray, sorry. I'm not a a. fan, guys. I don't know how to say his. last name. Then it tells us to listen to. his original voice, then to listen to. this recording from the hired actor that. was then read a new script, and then.

finally listen to our voice cloning of. Skip Caray's AI voice despite him. passing away. nearly 20 years ago. Oh. That's interesting because I had donors. telling me that they are convinced that. it is AI. They were They were there. And. Charlie never said this super formal. statement, "I appoint Erica Kirk if. anything were to happen to me.". I Many people emailed us, by the way, that work in AI and have worked in AI in. years. They were like, "Candace, I am. telling you 100% that is AI.".

I don't claim to be an expert. I just. claim to follow interesting leads like. this. This is not all they do, by the. way. They also can make videos. They can. take a video of somebody, maybe somebody. as an example, giving a presentation in. Aspen. So, as an example. And uh if they needed to add a sentence. or do these would be the guys to do it. Let's actually click around and and take. a look at their deep fakes here. Um. where if you want to pull back up that. website, Sky, where they explain how.

you're going to see this original UK. woman uh say something in a commercial, and then they are going to You guys. having some internet issues? No worries. Let me know when it's back. up. Okay, cool. They pulled the video. already. So, and then they're going to take this. original UK commercial, and then they're. going to make her say it in German, make. the man that's also in the commercial. say it in German, they're going to make. them say it in French, and how they did. this for their clients, and their. clients were like, "Still looks a little. uncanny. Something's off." And then they. were able to further. get the mouth to behave correctly.

and say stuff that they actually never. said, or at least didn't say in that. language. Um let's take a look at that video. We will now show you the array of AI. tools and patented VFX methods we use to. create a lifelike lip sync of an Ariel. commercial from the original British. English into French and then German. Steve put on a freshly washed shirt only. to find smells have come back.

That's a boomerang smell. It's when. smelly particles haven't been washed out. properly and are reactivated by heat. Oh, yep. Boomerang smell. We started by mapping out the likeness. of the original UK actors, which would. later be used to output their. photorealistic deepfake features. We then cast two French actors with. likeness matching their UK counterparts. and recorded a plethora of what we call. training footage [music] to train our AI. models for each.

Then the voice cloning requires ample. amounts of editing, sorting, and. cleaning up before we can train our AI. voice models to match the original. actors' voices. With all that prep work and computing. for my AI models, our lip syncs output. are flawless right as they come out and. ready for broadcast. Finally, we were asked to tweak the. final smile of the actress as the client. was not fully satisfied with the. original performance. So, we used our patented shape control.

method to create a multitude of. incremental changes in the intensity of. the smile, adjusting the opening of the eyes, the. pull of the zygomatics, and the moisture. of the lips until the client settled on. their preferred performance. Put on fresh. >> German or any other language. This is. how we create cinematic lip syncs. I'll ask the question. I'll be the bad guy. What's Turning Point doing meeting with.

this company at all? I I gosh, I don't. know if it was too long ago. Maybe I'm. getting old, but Turning Point USA used. to be an organization that hit the. ground at college campuses to spread. conservative principles like free. markets, capitalism. What use do they have with Hollywood. voice cloning in particular? Um.

just seems a little strange to me and. and and wouldn't you have less of a use. for that. uh after Charlie died? Almost less of a use. Maybe you were. like, we can put Charlie in a bunch of. different places and well like wouldn't. you have less of a use for that after. Charlie died? Like wouldn't you maybe. just like kick that can down the road? If you're going to have a meeting like. that, no? Well, I'd like to know. Like did they. work with them? Did they do anything. with this company? Was it just a. meeting? I mean, Andrew Kolb did say. they met with people that said they. could do all these deep fakes of Charlie. and they declined. Did they decline them. all? Did they give them an example of.

one they could do? And Ericka says she watched the video of. Charlie um. saying that he chose her and the donors. say that didn't happen. Then. is it plausible that they showed her a. deep fake? Did she know it was deep fake? Why why would the donors again, what is. the upside of wealthy donors who went to. Aspen to support Charlie saying that. this definitively did not happen and. that that moment is AI?

Also, why wouldn't Turning Point use. that moment on video to announce Ericka. Kirk? You know, I just none of that makes any. sense to me and um yeah, I will leave it. at that. We'll be right back after a. brief break. All right, you guys, life changes fast. One day you're planning vacations and. next you're thinking about protecting. the people who count on you most. That's. why life insurance matters and with. SelectQuote, finding the right coverage. is simpler than you think. SelectQuote. takes the guesswork out of finding the.

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Team G Family 4 writes, I appoint my. wife reads like a Tyler Robinson text. It certainly does. Overly formal. And Charlie was not this overly formal. person. That's kind of what made him so. engaging on stage that he was able to be. conversational. It does strike as. remarkably formal as if he was doing it, you know, like it was a coronation. I. appoint my wife. Uh. Also, a comment from Dick Shirley. yesterday. He was bothered, really. bothered, that I wasn't born yesterday.

I'm sorry. He wrote, Here you go, Candace. Here is a full favela video. that you cannot comprehend as real. LOL. More dangerous than any of your family. reunions. I would hope. Didn't know you. were built so favela-like and dangerous, but respect. You know, like. Okay, Dick. I don't know what to tell. you. It isn't journalism to people. It's. just how they grow up. And thank you for. all the Brazilians in the comments. yesterday. You were hilarious. You guys should scroll through. yesterday's comments of being like, this. is the biggest joke I've ever heard. Like I said, you just live enough and.

you just it's so beyond ridiculous. It's. not even worth debating. If I know. there's a sucker born every minute, but. you just have to be deep in the throes. of suburbia to think that somebody can. infiltrate a gang in the favela 48 hours. after 48 hours. Like just like hey, with. a camera and a mic, you will be robbed. so quickly. Viewers, do not try that at. home. Okay, today's comments. Just saw a. big one come in on. uh YouTube. Hello, Candace. Thank you so. much for everything that you have done. for the world and blowing the lid off of.

all of this ridiculousness. Quick. question, whatever happened to all the. Mitt Romney stuff you took a break for. from. Much love from Texas. I I'm. uh still looking into it. There I I do. think that is a piece of this. Utah, I. forgot Mitt Romney kind of runs things. and. you know, this investigation is ongoing. in so many different ways. Uh you know, we return to certain things when they. fit into another piece, but the Mitt. Romney thing is incredibly compelling, especially his relationship, long. relationship with Bibi Netanyahu. So, thank you for reminding me. uh to return to that at some point.

Comments from today's episode, Monica W. writes, "I rushed to see Oprah at 4. daily, and my teenage self was often. disappointed because I didn't care about. the topics. Now I rush to find your. showtime every day, and I'm never. disappointed. Either I'm officially. adulting or you spill the best truth. tea. Thank you so much, Monica. That's. very, very sweet. to even consider myself in that realm. I. guess Oprah was is so different there. daytime talk television. And she used to. really go there, by the way, with her. old shows, and she was covering some. very interesting and compelling stuff,

so I appreciate that compliment. RKO is. life writes, "Hello, Candace. Thank you. so much for everything that you have. done for the world." Oh, that's what I. just read. Thank you, guys, for pulling. that from YouTube. Saw that come in. Uh Z A Mitt writes, "Charlie Kirk did. not die in vain." No, he did not. I. totally agree with you. Brooke writes, "Your independence is your superpower. It's rare to see someone fight for the. truth regarding Charlie with such. loyalty, calling out these cult leaders. Exactly what we need right now. Christ. is king, and there are so many of them.". And unfortunately, many of them.

occupy the space of churches, and they. mega churches, and they are telling you. that they're doing this for God, and. it's I think people are recognizing it's. not. They are actually hacking into. faith and trying to move people toward a. political stance, and really a. devastating political. stance. This user writes, "Donor advised funds, Waterstone lawsuit, come with. instructions for the charity on what to. allocate the funds to with keeping donor. names secret. So, I think it's what. Charlie was trying to audit. Known for.

foreign monies being moved in donor. advised funds. I believe I I disagree. slightly. I believe he's looking at. taking a closer look at Turning Point. Action. Uh. based on everything that I have looked. at, based on the people that I've spoken. to. um within the organization, the rumor is that Turning Point Action. was missing $10 million, dollars Point. Action actually built a back door. It. has connections to Erica's mother. That. is just a fact. Um and. I'm blanking on the name of the company.

that she is on the board of with Tyler. Boyer. Uh they act Superfeed. Superfeed. actually powers the Turning Point USA. website. So at the app, pardon me. So if. you look into the app and you and you. start to read, you the stuff you click. past when you're downloading an app, it. tells you Superfeed. I I think that they. probably built a lot of mechanisms and. again, I'm speculating here. Uh but with a lot of pieces of people. who were at Turning Point USA who are no. longer at Turning Point USA saying that. that was where the money was missing. from.

Uh and if it was Turning Point Action, then there would be a direct tie to Lori. Frantzve. It would have created a. serious kerfuffle in his relationship. with his wife if he found out something. about Lori Frantzve who um. Yeah. I have a lot of question marks about her. in general, but I've expressed that. throughout our Erica Kirk series, Pride. of Charlie. Allie writes or Allie, pardon, writes, "Erica went on Glenn Beck and said. Charlie wasn't texting people that he. was going to be killed the day before.". When she privately admitted to you that.

this was false, why didn't she correct. the record publicly? Isn't that weird? Yes, you are correct. That is weird. She said it with such attitude, right? She's like, "I have his phone. Uh he never said that." And then she got. clocked on it because I then the next. day said, "That's weird cuz Andrew was. one of the people he texted and he told. me." And then she was like, "Well, then. it's because you know, the. stuff was set to delete.". Dan Flood. Okay, this is your husband. He didn't. tell you that he thought he was going to. die the night before that he had any. sort of anxiety about that. He's up the. night before. You said he was just.

excited. It's a weird thing to. experience those two emotions at once. You're so excited about something that. you've done that's actually become quite. mundane. I never remember Charlie at all of our. Technishes the night before, you know, hotel robes with paper-thin walls where. I could like hear the shower. Never did. I ever hear Charlie just be so excited. about doing a college campus event cuz. we used to do so many of them that he. couldn't sleep. This night was. different. He was so excited he couldn't. sleep but also thought he was going to. be killed. It's a lot of emotion going through one.

guy. I believe one of those. I believe that Charlie was fearful the. night before. Um and not excited about doing a college. campus event at a college that he had. already done a college campus event at. This was not new, it was not unique. Um. it's not to you know, say anything to. UVU crowd, but this is this isn't this. was his job. And he was years and years and years and. years into that job. So, I. I don't believe that's the reason he was. up.

I don't. When I put the blues clues. together that doesn't feel right. And. then she didn't mention that to her at. all. Uh uh. That doesn't register as as right to me. either. And then it turns out that even when she. tried to fix the lie which she probably. thought through in Telegram. that this is where this took place on. Telegram. uh that was inaccurate. And he actually texted Dan an iMessage. So, did somebody delete the messages. before it was given to Erica?

I know. she's not concerned, obviously. None of. this bothers her, none of the holes. bother her. She's just, you know, the loving doting widow who believes. every single piece that the Fed has spun. and is not at all. and she doesn't even have one question. about this investigation. She just forgives him and she'd like to. to close this chapter and move on. And that's that. TJ Clark writes, "Ex-Aurora PD officer here. September. 10th was especially heavy for us due to.

the local shooting. um with Charlie Kirk right afterward. I. took my kids out of school on 9/11. because of it. Happy to help with local. records request if you ever need it. Thank you very much. I will save give. username. That's very helpful. You know, I don't know how um. deep I will get into that September 10th. story, but I did I did do believe it. deserved a more national spotlight. And I can imagine what you guys went. through. That's a That's just a lot. Um. Oh, I'm sorry. You said Aurora PD. I'm. thinking of the September 10th one. Aurora PD was the Batman shooting. And. yeah, that's super interesting. Please.

do shoot us an email to more. tips@canasown.com so I can have your. information. because uh I do have some questions. about that. Totally bizarre. The the. story of the one woman who was shot like. five times and taken out by police. officers into a police car and. Jessica Garza, I believe her name was. There's something's very strange about. that. Like I said, I my conspiracy is that. these are military targets, people that. are being taken out. The fact that she. had just survived another shooting. Um.

missed it in a food court up in Canada. There's a lot weird about that story. Uh Happy Coma writes, "It was almost. certainly the Clear Creek Sheriff Office. working in collaboration. We don't have. our own police department in Evergreen.". That's interesting. "State Patrol and. Clear Creek responded." That's very. interesting and I would imagine that. they would know the protocol. having been in the area of Columbine. Thank you for sharing that. Join the book club uh on Friday. We will. be doing my book, which I'm very very. excited about. You're just going to keep.

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