OH SNAP! We Were Right About Fort Huachuca. | Candace Ep 291

All right, you guys, we have a lot to. unpack today. So, I for weeks was. working on a pretty strong tip, something that happened online, which I. would say is third-party information, a. person stationed at Fort Huachuca who. claimed publicly that they had seen. Erica at Fort Huachuca. They were. certain of it, and then they sort of got. chased offline, and they deleted it. Anyways, um I was able to follow that lead, and I. have some more information there. I can. tell you Erica disputes that narrative.

But, in addition to that, I can assert. that I feel completely comfortable that. saying or stating clearly that Erica is. definitively aware and familiar with the. Fort Huachuca base, intel base, because. once upon a time she. shot a teaser for a short film there or. around there, and the general topic of. the film is not going to go a long way. in terms of dispelling conspiracies. Also, later on the show, I want to. discuss Nick Fuentes because, man oh.

man, I was kind of fine with everything. he's been doing. I've always maintained. that he's not for me. His content's not. for me. I also have maintained that he's. clearly a federal informant, but who. cares if people want to follow him? Well, now he's caught my attention. because, frankly, he's trying to. soft-sell pedophilia. That's what he's. doing. And I just don't know how to ask for us. not to do this as a society. Can we not? Can we just not? Why can we. as a society not agree to just that one.

simple term? Welcome back to Candace. Okay, you guys, Fort Huachuca, the response, the public response, it. was way too over the top. We don't. really need to unpack everything that. transpired, but suffice it to say it was.

pretty clear they were panicking. They. were bringing out Mitch's baby mama. drama, sons, everything to say this. never happened, and we're going, "What's. What's going on here? Why are you guys. so freaked out about this base? Clearly, something happened here." And we learn. more that's an intel base. We learn more. about how they were uh teaching courses. to their agents on how to pretend that. they're Christians and to be inserted. within Christian organizations. That got. weird. That's definitely weird, right? Uh.

and then came obviously the PR blunder. Uh when people uh say too much almost in. trying to debunk something, when they. pretend like they don't even understand. English words. Fort? Fort? Can you put. it in a sentence? What's a fort? Gosh, these people are so insane. Erica wasn't. at some fort. Okay. Okay, Andrew Kolvet, little too. much. Like I said, he's got a lead foot. Zoom too quickly. Zero to 100 too fast. Uh.

if this Oh, I'm actually rather If I was. their PR agent, and to be clear, I do. think Turning Point USA should put me on. a monthly consulting retainer. I can. help. If it was me, I'd have been like, "Oh, Fort Huachuca? Yeah, we all know. Fort Huachuca. Yeah. Yeah, Erica lives nearby. Actually, I. think maybe her mom worked there. I. don't know. Let me call her and see. Maybe she might have been. I have no. idea. I'll see. I'll get back to you.". I would have played it cool. No. Andrew's all like, "Here's a picture of. her with her babies on the wrong date.

She wasn't. >> [laughter]. >> She wasn't building a pillow fort. Oh, no. She was eating burgers. I like. Chipotle." What, Andrew? What are we. What are you saying? Why do you seem. nervous? That was you know, people with. common sense, that's how I think we all. felt. And I am going to tell you a lot. Um. I can, like I said, assert she. definitely has heard of Fort Huachuca. So, I was interested when some people. that were based at Fort Huachuca back in.

2010, around 2010, maybe 2011, reached. out to me to inform me that they knew. Erica. uh and that Erica definitely knows the. base because a bunch of people from the. base were. uh were affiliated and had worked with. her from about 2010 until around 2013 on. a mini film. that never saw the light of day. As evidence of this, cuz I was thinking, "Am I being trolled here?" And then, no,

I wasn't being trolled. As evidence of. this, they actually provided me with. movie posters, which were professionally. shot, and the movie, which was entitled. November Renaissance. Okay? Sure, we uh. obviously we we know that she did some. acting or reality TV. I don't know how I. don't know how we would phrase it. Uh we know that she was pursuing the. stage, obviously. Uh she was involved in. pageants. And I'm Yeah, we're checking. out this movie poster before I tell you. what it's all about, what the movie. itself is about. Just by way of.

association, virtually everyone involved. in this movie, the actors, the stunt double men, they are involved. with Fort Huachuca, okay? Um involved with the military at the. very least. The person they said she was. really close to was Clayton Haugen. I. hope I'm saying that last name right. H. A U G E N. Maybe it's just Hogan. And he does marketing for the defense. contracting firm Dillon Aero Space.

There's Don Frye. Now, you might just. think of him as a fighter, but he. actually graduated from high school in. Sierra Vista and then trained in judo at. Fort Huachuca. There is Payton McCormick. She. um her grandfather is Colonel Pete. McCormick. Her father is Lieutenant. Colonel Allan McCormick, once stationed. at Fort Huachuca. Payton was also, by. the way, Miss Teen USA in 2006, Priscilla Ann Nu'ul, and I Again, we can.

pull up that poster. Skyler, so they can. just see what we're going through the. names here uh as well. That her father. was a lieutenant stationed at Fort. Huachuca. There's also Chantel Thuy. I didn't have. too much time to go through that. person's uh background, but I could find. a clear connection to Fort Huachuca. since that's the theme, but we can tell. you that her dad worked for an. artificial intelligence for IBM. So, I'm. thinking maybe he had something to do. with uh Fort Huachuca. And then, that. Price Mitchum, that just gets dark. I. mean, that young man or older man got.

put in a psych 5150 hold, and uh. I mean, I I don't know where that. direction heads to. Long family of. actors. I've got to prod that narrative. a bit more. The point is is that they. told me there's absolutely no way that. she's not familiar with Fort Huachuca. I. don't I don't know why that was said by. Andrew Kolvet. She most definitively was. just by um nature, like I said, of what. her mom did. And also, this poster. proves it. Okay. That narrative is. officially over. This whole, "Oh, this.

is crazy. What are we talking?" Okay, that's just done. We can end that, okay? Erica in this film was set to play a. character named Evelyn Mathis. We know this because we found the. remnant of a Kickstarter that was still. available to the public. Now, I wish I. had given to this when it was first put. up back in 2012, 2013, because I would. then be able to open all of these. posters and learn more about that. particular character, but I can tell you.

definitively that this was a movie about. corporate espionage, assassins, and technology, nanotech, all. used to help the government and. corporate financial institutions. maintain power. I am not kidding. I'm going to read you. the description here before showing you. a video. It says, "In the world of. tomorrow, the mind has become a hard. drive linked to the internet, and once. the present divide between technology. and humanity has become next to.

nonexistent. Driving this world forward. are the many emerging multinational. corporations. that have grown in power far beyond. the control. uh of world governments. In this. reality, financial institutions vie for. dominance through corporate black ops. These clandestine endeavors are carried. out by figures known as proxies, cloak. and dagger assets that are hired in. secret to remove rivals from power. or to protect corporate capital from.

harm.". Okay? And tells us about uh the elites, the proxies, and I'm going to let you just actually. take a listen to the director Clayton. himself describe a bit about what this. was intended to be about. I say intended. because when you start reading the. comments in the Kickstarter. uh campaign, you realize they never. delivered. They promised to deliver it. in 2013. That didn't happen. Uh here is. the director Clayton Haugen speaking.

about this movie. What you guys just saw there was a. visual pitch to really give you a feel. for the atmosphere, but as far as. concept goes, we really developed it. around a number of questions that we. were asking ourselves. Now, these. questions range from anything from, "How. can we manipulate someone's senses. enough so that they believe a false. reality when, in reality, something else. is going on entirely?" Or even, "How can. someone like the class geek pirate and. steal, say, the varsity quarterback's, you know, knowledge and skill set?" Or. even more so, "How can the knowledge and.

skill set of a Navy SEAL be copied and, you know, transferred to somebody else?". And this concept became possible when we. really pushed the boundary on what's. called nanotechnology. And that's tiny. little microscopic machines that carry. out their function on an atomic level. Now, with nanotechnology, we were able. to create this. >> [music]. >> plausible and, you know, believable. mind-bending and reality-bending concept. that is grounded in, you know, developing physics theories out there in. developing science. So really the. question you should ask yourself is,

what happens in a world where the brain. is a hard drive, your eyes become video. cameras, and knowledge is not learned so. much it is just programs that are. installed onto you? Yeah, so that's not going to help. matters any in the world of us. conspiracy theorists who kind of think. that that's what's happening. Wasn't I. just saying a couple of weeks ago that I. feel like there are people that are. walking around I feel like computer. programs and it's pretty obvious that. they're just stealing companies, stealing land, infiltrating, doing these.

sorts of things. Um that people these people are not even. successful, they're just they're just. thieves, they're glorified thieves with. access to the military. Again, to be clear of this this project. was never released despite posting. updates up to 2017, but I want to show. you that. uh to just confirm that our suspicions. were correct and that is now beyond. ridiculous to suggest in any manner or. form that Mitch's testimony. that he plausibly saw Erica at Fort. Huachuca is deranged, crazy, or figment.

of a madman's imagination. Again, these. people who gave this to us were our. friends with Erica, they know her, they. say she knows about this space. So, let's just shut that down. And there's a. bit more I'd like to add here. A lot of. you emailed and told us about a. correspondence that had taken place. online, um a chat where a person shortly after. Charlie's assassination, before there. were any conspiracies in the air, said, "Oh, I saw Erica at Fort Huachuca." This. was a woman, by the way, who wrote this.

and then a bunch of people started. yelling at her because she said that she. had seen Erica the day before, which. would have been September 9th, by the. way, not the 8th. Uh and she. subsequently deleted the message. There. and there was no reason for her to have. done that other than she thought, "Okay, maybe I was wrong, the whole internet is. so mad at me for saying this." This. person has absolutely nothing to do with. Mitch Snow. So, somebody else had published online. uh that they could confirm that that was. real. They were friends with that.

person, so to make that clear to you so. you understand the chain of custody of. this information. The person who posted. it is currently stationed at Fort. Huachuca and deleted it. The internet. caught that or somebody on the internet. caught that and then a second person who. was friends with that individual, who. was formerly uh stationed as well at. Fort Huachuca, said, "Yeah, that post. actually happened and there's more.". Uh I guess there are chats amongst uh. our military personnel that are.

stationed there and one of them asserted. in this chat that they too had seen. Erica at Fort Huachuca and that there. was an order to lower drones on that. day. So, that brings us up to a total of. three people in the due diligence that I. have done is that I have confirmed. that third-party person who used to be. stationed there, who knows the two. individuals involved, okay, has a. relationship with them today, is friends. with them.

So, again, it's important to always say. what the chain of custody is in case. there is a mistake. But I did my due. diligence to confirm that those people. are real and that those people are in. fact stationed at Fort Huachuca and that. they made these statements not because. they were being fed by the public one. way or the other, but because they. believed that they had seen her, okay? That puts. a little more weight to the claim. Now, to be clear, I will say that once again, earlier this week and I had to do. homeschooling longer, so I I have not.

been able to reply, but through. um. one of the Turning Point executives, Erica did send a video that I have been. asking for regarding the Fort Huachuca. alibi, but it wasn't I I don't think they're. comprehending what I'm asking for, so it. wasn't what I was asking for and I need. to now follow up with them, which I. intend to do tomorrow when we have um a. day off. Uh I I think it's perhaps, to. be fair, because we're going through a. third person, maybe it's not clear what. I'm asking for, so I'm going to send a. video example of what I'm asking for. Yeah, and hopefully I will have an.

update there, but I it's getting. interesting is what I would say, it's. getting very interesting and I the panic. of Andrew Colvett, to me, it feels like there there could. be something there. Want to add something else here. that uh you might find to compelling. Now, I told you that there are certain. themes that continue to rise throughout. this investigation. We put together a. chart to reflect that for you and but.

what I very clearly by no means does it. mean that any person on this chart is. guilty, but it's just interesting that. they are recurring themes. This is an. organization that's supposed to be free. markets and capitalism. We are finding. this Liberty University strand, the. Eastern uh Europe strand, the. trafficking and sex abuse strand meeting. meeting either allegations, uh George Zinn on that day, decoy boy, Turning Point Faith working with this. Pastor Greg Laurie, whose church is. being accused of trafficking children.

from Romania. One of the pastors, Paul. Habsgard, they are saying that the. church uh helped to facilitate that. Again, this is making its way through. its court, so this is all allegedly. We. had Rob McCoy trying to rehabilitate um. a person who had abused children in the. past. We talked about Tim Ballard, Operation Underground, how Phil Lyman. went to see him the next day. Glenn Beck. had funded that Operation Under. Underground, which for Tim Ballard ended. in scandal, no that question.

And people alleging that that charity. was not doing what he what he set out to. do, so that's interesting. And then we talked about Paul Vallely, that retired Army general. By the way, I. think on that episode I said he was on. the board, I meant to say he's on the. advisory board. There is a difference, an important difference, so I do I do. want to correct that. We got this. retired Army general who actually ran. psychological operations and happened to. co-write a book with this guy who was an. avowed Satanist and started his own kind. of Church of Satan called the Temple of.

Set, but he was also accused uh. credibly, according to the police, even. though he was ultimately found not. guilty due to not enough not enough. evidence, they didn't I'm sorry, they. didn't bring charges against him because. they felt they didn't have enough. evidence uh of harming a child. At the Army and. Army Child Development Center, which. already makes me uncomfortable that. there is an Army Child Development. Center. We'll talk about more of that. when we get into the GATE program and. some of the things that you guys told. me, which absolutely fascinating. Anyway, another thing that we've added.

here since is. what I found to be interesting is that. Erica lived in China and worked with. child sex trafficking victims. Now, that. is, if Erica is to be believed in her. own words, she said that. that on a podcast in the past, I want. you to listen to that podcast. Take a. listen. I decided to create something called. Everyday Heroes Like You, where we're. able to originally it was focused on. bringing funds and awareness to various.

grassroots organizations that were in. specific communities that would be able. to have volunteers that are transparent. with their funds, that are actually. doing what they're saying they're doing. instead of just having 70% of the funds. go to admin and only 30% towards the. cause. It kind of grew into uh something. more global. I was living in China and. doing a lot of work with. the victims from sex trafficking um and. then began to um phase that into working.

with the Marine Corps. um and the Army and then was able to. uh work with a orphanage in Romania um. to help sustain them during um their. winter seasons and and giving them more. clothing items or tangible items rather. than just money. So, you heard her very clearly there, it's not my imagination. She says, "I. was living in China and doing a lot of. work uh with child sex trafficking.

victims." And that caught obviously my. attention because somebody dug that up. on the internet and I was working on. this chart. I'm like, "Okay, this is. there's a lot here uh to unpack." And so. I instantly reached out to somebody at. Turning Point USA who has been a. straight shooter, actually I think the. only person that has been willing to. answer questions to get to the bottom of. things. Like I said, Justin Stripe, and. I said, "When when was she work living. in China? I don't have like when was. that actually?". And he replied that she never lived in. China. And that that she said, and I'm sure he.

took that right to her, that she never. lived in China. That she only went there. on a trip. uh for a couple of weeks to see the. Great Wall of China. So, I don't know what to believe, Erica. now or Erica then, but that's a that's. Erica versus Erica, that's a. discrepancy. The point is that the column of child. sex trafficking and orphans is about to. grow a little bit more. So, many people. were speculating as to and Baron Coleman. did a lot of work on this talking about. plane the the planes and they said it.

appears now that Charlie's plane, or. what was Charlie's plane and now appears. to be Erica's plane, is frequently. visiting New Braunfels, Texas and also a. place up in Idaho. A lot of plane action. there, what's going on? Some of it. conspiracy, obviously people just. investigating and trying to figure out. if there's something there and I can. tell you the answer is that she's. visiting the number one donors to. Turning Point USA or and shout out to. the mommy sleuth who did the work. The.

way they figured that out, I'm telling. you these. mommy sleuth hit different. They just. hit different. I'm actually reading. this, I'm like, "Goodness, you were in. the trenches here.". Uh that could be obviously they loaned. the plane after Charlie's assassination. and said, "You can have the plane." Who. knows, that part isn't too relevant. because I guess at this level, you know, friends don't let friends fly. public. Okay, sure. What is actually interesting though, [clears throat] which I wanted to bring. to your attention,

just give me just a second here. What's interesting is that um and by the. way, I do want to add here that Erica is. the chairman and CEO of Turning Point. So, going to see your biggest donor. wouldn't exactly be a scandal, but there. there is something else that's. interesting and to to bring up to speed. that those donors, it was widely. reported at the beginning of this year, so we're not really breaking stories. here, that the Turning Point. headquarters, I believe the one in in. Florida, the Florida campus was going to. be renamed the Buckman campus because of. the donation, large donation from the.

couple, largest ever in Turning Point's. history, which came from Karl and his. wife Nelda Buckman, okay? Daily Wire. actually had the exclusive story on this. and that's interesting to me. The $10. million gift and renaming the. headquarters. Uh now, Nelda gave an. interview, like I said, exclusively to. the Daily Wire in January about her now. budding relationship with Erica, the new. chairman and the CEO. She shared that. after Charlie's assassination, the two. of them got really close and she.

revealed that the two of them had met. privately in Florida ahead of America. Fest and did a dedication ceremony where. Nelda said that she had offered Erica. personal support and spoke with her. about the challenges of navigating her. new reality as a single mother, leading. the organization plus carrying forward. her late husband's legacy. That's. directly from the article on Daily Wire. Plus. She says, quote, Erica and I talked. about womanhood and what our culture has. been teaching our young women and what. we want to teach our young women. Uh end.

quote. Now, Nelda Buckman is immediately. interesting to me for two reasons. The. first is that when I was looking into. this more, it I I discovered that she executively. produced, which is kind of a fancy way. of saying financed the documentary, which not many people saw, which was. called Identity Crisis. It was a film. uh out of nowhere in 2024 announced on. stage by Ben Shapiro of Daily Wire and. Turning Point USA were teaming up to do. this film on gender. Hearing her name. involved with that project, I went, oh,

huh, funny backstory to that, which I've. already shared with you guys that, you. know, part of the way that Ben gets back. at people is by buying things and trying. to buy people and he was really upset uh. that I had called him out on stage and. that Charlie had my back when I got. fired and he posted that he had my back. on the day that I got fired and um you. know, made a statement uh. you know, Charlie we were just we've. just been friends for years, obviously. It's not that's not really that. surprising. And so, what happened. thereafter was that I and I told you. this cuz I was told this by Charlie that.

Ben started putting pressure on. Charlie's donors uh and trying to get. him not to let me speak at AmFest. This. was told to me by Charlie and I was. like, dude, don't even let them stress. you out cuz now they were kind of. squeezing him, like she can't speak, she's an anti-Semite, whatever. And I'm. like, look, I'm banned banned from. Australia. I don't have I don't even. care about that, man. You don't don't. let this bleed onto you what I'm going. through. I'll get through this. I'll be. fine. I didn't know who exactly the. donor was. I knew that they were um. feeding information also to Barry Weiss.

and I then got a phone call from Andrew. Kolb at at that time. saying to me, hey, letting you know that. we're going to allow Ben to effectively. buy a place at AmFest. I know he doesn't. normally speak here and we want to make. sure you're okay with that, obviously, cuz it's so much money and like I mean, it's an it's an offensive amount of. money effectively and he's buying a spot. and now he's going to, you know, get. involved and buy up this uh documentary. that we're doing and I was like, I was. first and foremost, I was like, this is. so unbelievably petty, it's so perfectly.

Ben. And also, I don't care, take his. money. Like, I want you guys to be. successful. Like, I am not insecure in. me and Charlie's friendship at all. Uh. if he's if he's going to, you know, have. his friends go after try to make it look. like me and Charlie aren't friends. So, it's it was interesting to me to. learn that Nelda Buckman, and I'm not. saying that she necessarily was the. person who put the pressure on it, but. it's interesting to connect that dot. because it was particularly about this. documentary that Andrew Kolb at told. called me about and he said, Charlie has. to do this interview now with um.

with uh Ben and that's what's happening. No big deal. What we can be certain of, again, that's. just speculation, but what we can be. certain of regarding Nelda Buckman is. that she is an executive producer, she's. also an artist, she's also a. a philanthropist and like Erica, which. is the compelling part part here, she. has done extensive work with foster. children and in particular sex. trafficking victims, okay? Nelda works. with National Angels, so it's like.

there's all these different regions, Austin Angels, New Jersey Angels. She. works with all of them to help foster. children, okay? I don't really have a. gripe about that. I think I have shared. my mother spent time in a group home. There is a need. I am particularly open. to the fact that there is a need and. that the system is not great. But, and this part I am I would say. concerned about. It doesn't mean I'm. concerned about Nelda, but this project.

in general existing gives me pause and. gives me concern because Nelda is one of. the largest donors, she might even be. the largest donor to Courage House. Nevada, okay? I don't like anything that. happens in Nevada. Give me a blackmail rings. There's a lot. of stuff that happens in Las Vegas, obviously. And this nonprofit, which. advertises itself as providing safe. homes for child sex trafficking. survivors. and per its website in April 2025, it.

purchased a 40-acre property. in Washoe County, Nevada, okay? It plans or it planned to house six. resident children. That's a lot of space. for six children. All of these children. are female. And it should be noted that this is a. psychiatric. residential treatment facility. Different powers for the state if they. say you're a nutcase, okay? They can. just do things and keep you and that's.

immediately upon its opening that. November, this is what this is the goal. A 40-acre property as you see and it's. we're going to house six girls and it. has the capacity for 18 as colleges are. are being built. That's their long-term. goal is to provide care to. 12 more children, total capacity 18. across these three colleges. Again, 40. acres for 18 children feels. like a lot to me. But, I want to stress here that the goal.

is not to just temporarily house these. sex trafficking victims. Uh the first. thing that stood out to me as unusual. and I'm grateful that this Mommy Sleuth. went down and and and dug this up is. that the Courage House is report. reportedly located in a confidential. secure location, meaning that. we have no way to tell where these girls. are going to be kept. Now, to justify. this, the founder of Courage Worldwide. says, oh, well, told local news, there.

are people out in the world that want to. hurt these girls. That's why we have to. find a rural place and it. quote, where it's hard for them to leave. or for someone to find them. And so, the Mommy Sleuth that emailed me. was like, what do they mean it's hard. for them to leave? So, you got these. children that are sex trafficking. victims that are being brought to this. 40-acre campus to live in these cottages. and it's hard for them to leave. That's that's.

Mommy Sleuth is right. Creepy. It's it's. very creepy to state it that way and it. I but exactly by the way, who's hunting. down. these sex trafficking victims? It's also. unusual. that they're implying throughout the. website that these girls can be as young. as 4 to 6 years old and they say that. they will have the careers that they. dream of. They're going to offer them. tuition support, so they're then going. to pay for them to go to college. They. are going to house them long-term. and they specifically outline how.

excited they are that Nevada has changed. its laws uh which means that. they don't have to leave on their 18th. birthday. That those girls can now stay until. they're 21. I don't like it. I just don't like it. I don't like any. of this. And again, I am not at all. implying that the Buckmans have a hand. in that. Uh it's more just learning.

about these stories and covering these. stories, even my own ignorance. Like, I. gave I I used to give, just annually, just so you guys know, to Operation. Underground, which was run by Tim. Ballard. And then they had a bit of a. scandal and I think that all of us, since we're such normal people, we. assume that when these charities are. dedicating themselves to sex trafficking. victims, that they are actually trying. to help sex trafficking victims, but the scandals of a lot of these.

charities, the way that they're being. sued, doesn't sound like that at all, okay? It sounds like some of these. charities, and again, I'm not saying. that Nevada House is one of these, are. involved in the trafficking. And to what. ain't Nevada doesn't seem like the right. place for that at all. A lot of creeps. go to Nevada, right? That's where Las. Vegas is. That's where you people are. actively trying to hook up with. children. Right? That's where they go. for their vices. And now we're just. going to have a 40-acre farm and we're. not allowed to know where it is. We're. not allowed to know who's in there and.

we're being told it's for their. protection. I don't feel great about. that. I don't feel great about that at all, actually. I think we need to revisit the. topic of these child sex trafficking. charities, full stop. Full stop, okay? Cuz I'm getting a sense and I'm going to. tell you, this is my sense. I'm getting a sense, and we know how. Jeffrey Epstein also gave to schools, he. donated to schools, he donated a lot of. money, actually, and we should go. revisit just what sort of charity he.

donated to. I would be certain that some. of them were sex trafficking charities. I'm getting a sense that some of them. are are involved uh uh. implicitly in trafficking victims, and. then um traumatizing uh these people as. their children, and then almost having. these children develop, which they were. determined, which was determined the. precursor to MK Ultra, uh which actually. took place with Nazi scientists that. were then brought over here. with Operation Paperclip, that they know.

that when you abuse a child, and then if. you raise a child, and Sigmund Freud. illustrates this in the book that we're. currently reading in book club, uh that you can create a psychopath, you. can also create someone that has. dissociative disorder. It's like almost. like they're not people. I feel like. these people are going through programs. They're turning these people on to. society. They're like robots walking. among us. I say that, and they mock. that. Don't mock it. I think these are. the White Walkers. This is the sense of.

dread that I have, that there has been. some sort of an effort and some sort of. a sort of a program that's happening. wherein children are being harmed, and. then they're being offered all sorts of. things, and like now you're in the cult, like you're in the club. I mean, this. is, by the way, stuff that happens in gangs, as well. It's like how you pledge a gang. I mean, when you get to the bottom of the. what's guiding the idea of even hazing. in fraternities, it's like you're going. to suffer, and then you're one of us, okay? That's what's informing it. It's.

like a kind of trauma that's then going. to commit you further to their cause. And I think that's happening. I think. there are, to use obviously an analogy. here, White Walkers among us. I really. do believe that. And these people, there's something about them where I. just look at them, and I think something. happened to you when you were a child. I. felt this way spiritually when I looked. at Astrid Tuminez, who by the way has. just stepped down from Utah Valley. University. It was just announced, the. president of Utah Valley University, who.

was not there on that day, despite the. fact that it was the first week of. school, she was not there on the day of. Charlie's assassination. Looks like she. was involved in some color revolution. stuff for the CIA. She was a fostered. child, was rescued from the Philippines. I can't explain it. I looked at Astrid. Tuminez just doing an interview, and I. was just like. childhood trauma, question mark? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, no. But I'm putting it out there. And we'll find out if I'm right by how.

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All right, let's get to Nick Fuentes. Staying on this theme, it just sort of. feels like over time they've been. softening things and making it sound. different. This is, by the way, for. people who initially uh and I know. people have changed their minds as. things grew more radical, but I think. people who initially were supporting the. transgender movement were not doing so. out of evil. They just it's, you know, this kid's going through some stuff, I. want to be a supportive parent. I think they were very ill-guided. It. was obvious to me that as soon as you.

start saying that children have the. authority when they're four to decide. about their bodies, we know what comes. next. We just know what comes next. It's. obvious, and it's never they're always. trying to throw these things out to. exist between like a left-right. paradigm, but it's just the sickos at. the top trying to accomplish their aims, and also slowly introducing this in. culture. We spoke about that, how. they're now kind of soft-selling us. incest and pedophilia at all times. And. of course, if you've read Hollywood. Babylon in our book club, then you know. that this is this is the founding story.

of Hollywood. That that is Hollywood's. founding story. They were um after this. Babylonian culture, they largely. imported a bunch of Viennese directors. who had been engaging in pedophilia over. in Vienna, and that it was rampant. It. was just rampant, anyway. Nick Fuentes is one of these people who. is trying to soften it. So, for clarity,

before we listen to this clip, Jeffrey. Epstein had been accused of trafficking. children 8 years old, 11 years old, he. for his own birthday, for to as a. birthday present to himself, found some. 12-year-old triplets. who were dirt poor, and his friend uh. Jean-Luc Brunel in Paris flew these. 12-year-old triplets to Jeffrey Epstein, okay? No one's arguing about Jeffrey.

Epstein's perverted interest, a sexual. interest. No one's arguing with that. However, Nick Fuentes is going to. explain why actually that's not. pedophilia. Take a listen. This whole pedo thing, it's like it. isn't really pedophilia. I don't want to. be the one that has to say it, uh but I. guess I'm being forced to say it. It's. not really pedophilia, okay? They weren't trafficking 5-year-olds, it.

was like they were technically not. legal. Big di- big difference, in my. opinion. I know that's a controversial. take, but that's not really the issue there. Okay? The issue is not that they were. barely legal teens, which is. what it is. It's horrendous, it's awful, it's pedophilia, okay, relax. Um no, the issue is that Epstein is a. Jewish spy, probably working with Israel.

That's the dilemma there. He's working. with Israeli intelligence. Honestly, this is a time where it is. appropriate to say this. Stop. That's it. That's all I have to say. Stop. Agree. I just I watched I just just just. stop right there. Why? Why are we always. here in society for no reason? How easy.

is it not to do that, okay? Not to try. to use some technicality, which by the. way, who do you think is in in control. of these definitions, by the way? I. mean, they are changing the definition. of what it means to be a girl and a boy. right now. So, if you can find, "Well, look at this definition, technically, if. the person is 11, if the person's not. under five, who cares if they're. prepubescent? The point is not. pedophilia. We're just we've expanded. the definition, we're constantly.

expanding and changing definitions to. confuse people against common sense, okay? If you are sexually interested in. prepubescent. children, you're you're a pedophile. How. about that? That easy? Thumbs up? Cool? We good? And what is just so remarkable. to me, and like I said, I've been fine. with him doing his thing, obviously, he's a federal informant. It's. ridiculous people that don't understand. that. It's ridiculous that people just. keep following him despite the.

overwhelming evidence. I mean, this guy. took a meeting with Dan Wilk's partner. after years of screaming about Ben. Shapiro and talking about Israel, and. all he took a meeting. with Defend Texas Liberty. and Ferris Wilks' partner. and pitched they actually one reporter. got documents was pitching to sell the. data of his followers and people were. like that's fine. He led people into a. capital with a bullhorn and said ignore.

police storm the barriers as if he had. fed like he he had fed instructions and. we know for a fact he was informed the. night before. the night before by Milo Yiannopoulos. That the feds were going to be that. there was there was some fed trap. happening and despite that he went with. a bullhorn he didn't just attend he had. a bullhorn and he's telling people to. storm and he doesn't get arrested and. his lawyer wants to go off record when. he's asked directly about whether or not. he is a a federal informant it's been so. in your face and obvious.

The ridiculous oh I just got a quarter. million in in Bitcoin from France from a. guy who's. wrote killed himself and published a. letter 24 hours after he was dead. um cuz he set it on a timer and it's in. perfect English and anybody who's ever. been to France. French people don't speak perfect. English. They they are not writing a. letter in English even if they speak. perfect English. It's just been so. absurd that it offends my senses it. offends my sensibility that people have.

been following him. This is a glee club. kid okay he's dramatic I get I like Nick. Fuentes clips like I I like watching. Real Housewives clips. And this is by. the way the problem as I've said that. heterosexual men cannot continue to. follow theater boys. This is this is. actually a an illness in our society is. that people who are playing the part of. men and are actually at their core. theater boys and want to go to Congress. and want to have platforms and would. never fight wars they are for whatever.

reason being listened to by actual men. This was. just unbelievable to me that the. statement was made and you couldn't see. that it was going to end here. Of course. this is what happens. This is what. happens when you elect or you decide. that you're going to follow people who. don't like women. That's the reality they don't like women. so family offends them. And despite making that statement he. then tries to do a 180 and pretend he. didn't just say what we heard him say.

Here's what he said in a follow-up where. he's going to yell at you for hearing. what he just said. which is that it's not pedophilia. Take. a listen. This is not just about. somebody was trafficking girls. somewhere. That's not the story. The. story is someone was trafficking girls. to acquire blackmail to sell to Israel. That is the point and that is what I. said last night. I said for someone to make it all about. pedophilia I said it's kind of just like.

um it's not really true because again it. does get away from what's happening. there. It is not satanic pedophilia cult stuff. It is. really run-of-the-mill prostitution and. sex trafficking but for a. international political purpose and it's. important not to lose sight of that. I. saw Marjorie Green say this is about. female victims. It's actually not about. female victims. It's about the integrity of our. government. Do you understand the.

difference? It's not to say we're not sympathetic. It's not to say that it's not criminal. It's not to say that it's good. I'm not. defending it. I'm saying this is not Dateline. This is. not a human interest story. This is a this is a layered crime. It's. one crime in the furtherance of a much. more politically significant crime. But all these dumb I mean they literally. just don't have the IQ to understand. that. For them it's just about screeching.

about the same nonsense every day. Uh they don't understand what they're. talking about. They have no idea about. anything. They hear something they don't like they. say oh it's with Israel now he got paid. I'm sorry I've been doing this way. longer than you. When did you come on. the scene? When did you. get red-pilled? Last year? 10 minutes. ago? When did you start talking about. this stuff? Oh now you're the expert and. the gatekeeper. I'm done with that. I'm out seriously. You don't have to.

unfollow me cuz I'm out. This whole movement of Gen X idiots that. are obsessed with satanic pedophile. elite and psycho conspiracy cookery that. doesn't even make sense this can is. someone's bull. I'm out of all that seriously. I'm done with it. Yeah this is the kid who sat across from. me and said that people that are. sub-Saharan just don't have a high IQ. Let me tell you what he strikes me as. Nick strikes me as someone who was. really bright in high school then he got. a little bit of fame and he stopped.

reading books. That's it. This is what this is what. happens people go I made it I don't have. to learn anymore. I can just shut off my. brain and keep repeating the same. talking points because if you do not. understand that this is a cult that the. theology matters much more than the. politics okay this like left-right. dialectic it means nothing until you. understand the theology that is guiding. these elites worldwide and it is in fact. occultic it is in fact satanic and these. are in fact ritualistic. It's all over. You need but read articles that are in. your face or conduct even a minor.

incursion into the history of psychology. which was brought upon our source a our. our source a minor incursion even to the. establishment of Hollywood. It's right. there in your face and and by the way it. is actually low IQ anti-Semitism like. you call it to just go oh well that's. just all Jews. That's why I don't like. Dave Smith. I don't even like Dave Smith. even though he's completely on our side. on everything. They just it's it's a. Tim. That's actually what low IQ.

anti-Semitism is because to be clear. this occultic ritualistic stuff these. people are gypsies. They exist in every. faith let's be clear Aleister Crowley. was a student of this. Did Aleister did. Aleister Crowley exist? Did Jackson did. Jack Parsons exist the who established. the Apollo program at NASA? Was he. similarly conducting occult sexual. rituals to establish a moon child? Did. he then suddenly go to the moon after. the Apollo program was established? So.

actually Nick it's you that is. demonstrating that you have a low IQ or. rather that you are trying to tell your. audience to stop learning. You're trying. to convince them and by the way. you're trying to convince them. that. Satan is a conspiracy theory. Keep focused on the on the minutia. The. left versus right. Right? It's it's it's. Israel versus America. It's not bigger. than that. There's no global conspiracy. happening. We weren't told that Satan.

Satan's going to inherit the earth. This. is why he also strikes me as someone who. does not attend mass regularly first. because the way he speaks there is such. a thing as having a Catholic conscience. it's difficult to speak in the manner. that he does all the time. if you were attending mass which he. should do I think it would make him a. better person but far be it from me to. give Nick Fuentes any suggestions. because the last time when I just asked. him. who he was dating or like hey you're. going to get married one day he lost his. mind. He started acting like a raging.

homosexual calling me all sorts of. things of course when he was in the. comfort of his own home and very much. embodying. the stereotype of women that you see on. reality TV. This is this is actually was. was his reply to me for asking him about. whether he wanted to get married one. day. Sit down and shut THE UP. THAT'S WHAT A MAN HAS TO SAY. Just a general rule. if you have to say I'm a man which he.

then follows up by saying I'm a real man. you probably aren't one. Hey Brigitte if you got a suit to prove. you're a woman you're probably not one. Real men their. natural inclination is to protect women. and children. That's a fact. A woman's natural inclination is to. respect men when they are exhibiting the. attributes of true masculinity. protecting women and children not. getting up on a platform. and trying to soft sell definition of.

pedophilia by saying well it wasn't. 5-year-olds and so it's okay. And by the. way to that clip of him yelling all I. can ever see is the Real Housewives of. Beverly Hills. Take a look at this. Shut up and shut the UP. >> [screaming]. >> THAT'S WHAT A MAN HAS TO SAY. A real man that's how I talked to uh. my sisters when they took my shirt when. I was in high school and just yell. scream at them and point. Anyway it's a. call for actual real men to stand up and.

become leaders and to help us fight what. we are fighting which is a spiritual. war. Yes it does matter and. perhaps the wrong person to deliver this. line from which movie I forgot which. movie this is but it is true. Unusual suspects it. the usual suspects Skyler has corrected. me but this quotation is definitively. true. Take a listen.

The greatest trick. the devil ever pulled. was convincing the world he didn't. exist. Actually maybe he was the exact right. person to deliver that line. Take a. brief break and then discuss some of. your comments from yesterday's episode. about the gay program. which were fascinating. All right you guys do you maybe owe back. taxes or maybe you haven't filed taxes. in years? Well now is the perfect time. to resolve your tax matters. With the. national conversation around abolishing. the income tax system the IRS is.

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hiding technology. How foolish you would. you have to be. to think that they would allow us to. learn technology with them. That's not. how people who are hungry for power. operate. And unfortunately, enough of us. have common sense that we are not. falling for these ridiculous PR. campaigns. Anyway, regarding the the. gate program and. any other child development program. that's in schools for. extraordinary students or gifted and. talented students, there was this. comment yesterday's episode. I have to. read this. This was from Nika. Nika.

wrote, "Hey, Shannon, a tagged gate kid here. Total memory blackout from ages 4 to 10, the exact years cuz that was responding. to a comment of somebody else who had a. memory blackout being a part of this. program. The exact years that I was at Fort Hood. on base. Later '80s, late later '80s, early '90s, military brat. Dad was a. doctor doing residency adjacent to a bio. lab at the army hospital. I wouldn't. follow protocol as a kid after the. program had skipped me a grade, etc. And. so, after the army, I got shuffled.

through four different schools that I. later discovered are all connected to. the DoD through the Aspen Education. Group. I think they changed the name. I. have docs, but yeah. And shell. companies. I've gone through hell and. back with loads of FOIAs to my name just. trying to figure out what happened to me. at Turnabout Ranch in Escalante, Utah, New Horizons Academy, now closed for. abuse in Marion, Indiana, its sister. school, child slaver labor work camp in. the middle of nowhere called Missanabie. Woods Academy in Canada. They have. another school in the DR, but I didn't.

go there. Also, Darlington in Rome, Georgia, and of course, Texas. The. struggle is real. Keep up the good. fight, Candace. Thanks for making it. safe to talk about this publicly. I. legit have gone through hell and back, and I know the neighborhood because of. all of this. The weird phenomena is. real. Lights break above my head when I. flipped a switch, cabinets slam when I. get mad enough, and I can I don't know, I guess connect with what I can only. describe as stars that respond to my. request, like please move or light up, etc. I know this sounds insane. I don't. care though. It's no measure of health.

to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick. society. And I'm grateful I don't fit. in, not cut from the same cloth. But. whatever happened to us as kids, we. deserve answers. We while I personally don't care about. retribution, just answers. You're giving. us permission to speak our truth. Thank. you. And there were so many comments. So many comments of people reflecting. this that that yes, when I run, I was in. the gate program, lights go out. I told. you that was something that Charlie. said. And I it's so weird. They're like. mocking Charlie by mocking me. He said. it. He said he thought he was a time. traveler. He went to a special school.

And yeah, it it's it's very interesting. that these programs existed. I honestly. think I was spared. So, interesting to. hear you say that they wanted to. transfer you to. special academy because the same thing. happened to me. I took the test. It was. third grade, I remember. And all the. kids got their state test exams back, and mine was late. And I was sitting in. Miss Balistreri's class. And then they brought my mom in, and. they were like, you know, Candace.

got a very high score on this, and we'd. like to put her in what was called the. Extraordinary Learners Program. And after being in a couple of these. classes, they then said to my mom that. we would like to pay for her to go all. expenses to this academy, King Low. Heywood Private School. And my mom was like, well, you should go. to this. This is an amazing opportunity. And then I started bursting out in. tears, crying, being like, Mom, please. don't make me go. I just we had just. changed schools, elementary schools. And. I was like, I just made new friends. again. I do not want to make new.

friends. Essentially, I promise I will. be an idiot. Just do not make me change. schools. And I wonder if first off, I. did. I then purposely didn't like was. trying not to do the best. I still, you. know, was in. AP. honors classes, but I was kind of very. um righteous about school, and they I do. remember we still I still had to do the. ELP program. I remember us going on. buses to separate schools. It's really. interesting to think about what is the. actual aim of these programs? Probably. to identify kids and make sure that if.

they are um in any measure brilliant. And I'm not saying that I'm brilliant. I. just happened to be in one of these. programs. They probably want you to work for the. government. They probably want to make. sure that they can track you, and that. is a totally sensible conclusion, especially if you read through the. comments. Guys, you must. I I feel like. I could do a whole series on these. programs now. I want to just investigate. these programs. I think there are some, by the way, podcasts that are doing. that. But um. yeah, it was it was amazing to read your.

comments, people that talked about which. DoD people came to meet with them, if. they had to sit down with army people, if they had to sit down with military. people. It is all there. It is happening. in the comment section. We need Brett. Cooper back. That's what I'm saying. We. need Brett Cooper. to go deep in this comment section. You. know, I pay for that. Anyway, I will. read some more comments from today's. episode. Rachel writes, "Satan knows. that his time is short. The same future. that they kept seeing." Oh, sorry, from. yesterday's episode. "Is that God wins.

He always wins." That's how I feel. That. is how I feel about Project Looking. Glass. Like, how do we change this? How. do we change this? And so, they are now. probably just. um putting a bunch of. white walkers all across society. You. know what I mean when I say white. walkers? Just abused children that. they've kind of turned into automated. programs and will do whatever they say. That's what I feel is happening. I'm. also struck I know I'm kind of ranting. at you guys now, but I'm also struck by. this push toward Greenland. I'll tell. you why cuz I was like, why are we. suddenly talking about Greenland so.

much? I'm not saying that we don't have. a history of discussing Greenland as an. asset, but it feels like they're kind of. ratcheting that up. They're like, no, we. need Greenland tomorrow. I'm like, what's going on? I had no idea that we. had this military base, underground. military base that was established. there, particularly to launch missiles. during the Cold War. So, America is quite literally invested. there, but the missile thing was a. trigger for me because I showed you that. it was a part of Charlie's predictions. Not only was he going to die, but he. felt. that there was some devastation coming.

pertaining to a missile. a war involving missiles. I can't. remember the exact text message, but. that That's interesting to me. That is. very all of it I find to be compelling, and that's why I talk about it on my. show cuz it's my show. And it's what I'm. interested in. And I'm sorry that I. don't suffer from whatever it is. that makes people think that the cool. kids are the ones that listen to the. government. I think you are the lamest. people ever. The people that take money. to repeat government talking points, like you are just so lame. You're so.

uncool. Like and trying to make it cool. Like. Gretchen trying to make fetch fetch. It's just it's not working. We don't. care. We're going to talk about this. stuff. We're going to talk about the. gate program. We're going to talk about. telepathy. We're going to talk about. kids running with street lights that are. going off. And yeah, it's opening up a. lot, and I think that it has the. government quite nervous. And in the. end, we are going to speak about the. fact that Christ will win. In fact, in. many ways, he has already won. Okay, read a couple more comments from today's.

episode. Jesus is king, appropriately. from Luke praying constantly sending my. angel to help you and Tucker Nick I like. him but he doesn't know what he's. talking about been making YouTube videos. for 10 years but now with the spiritual. battle I need to help I would love to. have you on my pod in the future thank. you yeah I just he's just not equipped. for this at all actually and he he. should take some time off and learn. actually maybe he can learn from a. sub-Saharan African. That might help him. Jess writes Christ. is king go max Matthew Alvarado writes I. can see the gray bars losing their minds.

over this you guys have no idea how much. he keeps saying that he's done talking. about you but clearly has not stopped. since he knows deep down that you are. right. He's got potential. he could read some books and he could be. helpful but he he should men should not. follow him he doesn't have anything in. his life. that should you should follow what you. want to mirror what you want to become. what you think is good and whole a. person ranting angry about you know. women and now soft selling pedophilia I. hope that's not your aim. he's smart at political topics and. political takes that one was really dumb.

and what he should have done is had. exercise some humility and said I. completely misspoke and that was stupid. and I'm sorry that was just dumb. That's all it takes but he can't because. he's got people telling him that all you. have to do is double down on stupid. Again he actually suffers from the need. to be cool like if I'm Dan Welks I would. just buy a bot army like and I would. just have them say say this say this and. I know that he'd say it because he. responds to like internet peer pressure. which is lame. Sisbear writes your last. video made me think of the whistleblower.

Sabrina Wallace she was a child who. claims DARPA tested biosonar on her and. other children in the 80s and 90s they. looked like gorgeous special kids that. stood out that is fascinating and like I. said there should be an entire series on. this I do think that Charlie was DARPA. tested I think he was obviously we can. prove that he was tracked by the. military I mean turning point was. established in part by Bill Montgomery. who was Air Force involved with the Air. Force I think we read that yesterday was. on the reserves so we're on the right.

track we're always on the right track. but they're always saying we're not in. the right right track which makes us. know that we need to continue on to. these tracks and more will be revealed. if you have any more information. particularly regarding Fort Huachuca. again I will pursue. that alibi in earnest I'm going to send. them a video saying I know what I'm. talking about I don't know if it's just. like translation getting lost over text. message hopefully I'll have an update. for you guys by Monday but if you have. more information about Fort Huachuca. more tips at Candace Owens.com. otherwise we have an interview dropping. tomorrow between me and Myron Gaines.

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