More EXCLUSIVE Footage! Another Funny Thing Happened On The Way To Timpanogos Hospital… | Ep 400

All right, you guys. Happy Thursday and. also happy episode 400. I don't know. that just feels like a fantastic. milestone um on this in independent. endeavor. I feel a little bit of. pressure to make today's episode. special. And Blakey Pooh, I'd like to. dedicate today's episode to you, girlfriend, because like totally OMG. Candace is just like upset that Erica is. a white woman that murdered Charlie or. whatever. What? Honestly, in retrospect,

the craziest part of his little rant. yesterday was the random insistence that. I hate white women. That was just so. random. It just felt like a elephant. clipping original fresh out of the. Latvian nerds factory. Anyway, today we. must sentence Blake Nef, right? I feel. we must do that appropriately, of. course, for the crime of speaking while. being Blake Nef. That is illegal. And in. this courtroom, the sentence is always. the same. Sentence you to more truth.

And you know what, guys? Some more funny. things happened on the way to the. hospital on September 10th. And. according to Frank Turk's recently. dropped book, did you know that he. dropped a book last month? I'm not so. sure he remembers any of them. Welcome. back to Candace.

You know what, guys? Blakey hurt my. feelings yesterday. He called me so many. names. I mean, he completely violated. one of Charlie's cardinal rules of never. engaging in ad hominant attacks. I mean, he called me all sorts of things in that. ex space. He said I was wretched, nasty, absolutely awful. claimed that I dislike other pretty. women. He also called me illiterate. thereafter on X. I just feel sad on the.

inside. I sad, Blake. Why do I have to. deal with these elementary insults? I'm. nine months pregnant and still the. attacks are unceasing. Where are his. manners? Now, I'll have you know that. I'm actually an exceptional reader and a. writer and an effective communicator. But most of all, I think my chief talent. is researching, researching and creating. official timelines, gathering intel. And. you know what? Unfortunately for Blake,

I've been researching September 10th. extensively, and there are things that. took place that day that register to me. and the broader public as anomalies. I I. just cannot shake this feeling that we. are not being told the entire truth. Also, um, Blake Nef, his existence in. general, everything about what he says. that day. He can't remember what he was. doing in Salt Lake City. Why was Danny.

Phillip Another question I have, why was. Danny Phillip driving Blake. like he was in an Uber ride? Blake in. the back seat. That doesn't make sense. And after Charlie got hit, one thing. that I cannot make sense of is why Blake. Nef and Danny Phillip didn't just. immediately book it to the hospital to. drive themselves over to the hospital. I. mean, what what other value ad is Blake? You think he's going to help with the. investigation? Now, I want to jog your memory here. because first we were told by Blake the.

story about Mikey McCoy's quivering lip, a lip that quivered in a way that Blake. would never forget. followed by an. intimate conversation with Erica, followed by Mikey transforming into a. battle hardened general. Take a listen. It was clear in the moment that he was. profoundly freaked out. What I'll always. remember is the way his his lip was. quivering, which I'd never seen before. And you you very rarely see from someone. that he was freaking out. And then I.

think he literally said to me, I I might. be imagining this, but I think what he. literally said was he and then he was. looking around and then he says, "I I. need to call Erica." And he then he. takes his phone and he begins calling. Erica. >> And I don't want to disclose how that. call unfolded, but he did that this you. know, your mind extends all of this, but. that is happening within. >> a minute of all of this occurring. I. remember he calls Erica. I around the. same time I pull out my phone and I call.

my mom just to say, "Mom, there's been a. shooting. You're going to see it on the. news. I'm okay. You know, pray for me. I've got to go." And I remember that. call. And around the time I I put that. phone away and then he immediately calls. his dad. He calls Robin McCoy and he. says, "Dad, someone shot Charlie. You. need to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to. pray right now." And that's what he told. him. And I guess it just it's very. disgusting for me as someone who.

witnessed this who saw Mikey hugely. distressed and then step up in the. moment because after that was call that. call was over I saw Mikey like get total. mastery of himself that he realized he. had to step up in this situation. >> and he from that point he was like he. was like a general directing a battle. where he was you know grabbing people. and saying okay we need to get to the. hospital and we need to do these things. and you guys need wait here. I need to. get in here to get information so that I. can get it to get it to Erica. And.

>> when we when we learned he was dead, it. was he came out and he told us and then. he says and he says, "Now, none of you. can say anything that you've heard. because it is Erica is not going to hear. about this from anyone except me.". >> Okay. So, he's. how old, Mikey? Early 20s, right? I. think he did like was going to go to. Liberty University and then decided to. be Charlie's chief of staff. So, we're. talking really early 20s. Mikey is uh. started working for Charlie as a chief. of staff when he was promoted in 2023.

And I just always struggled with this. version of events that Mikey somehow was. the nucleus, right? This kid is I got to. figure out what's happening, what's going on at the hospital. I'm. going to be the one that communicates to. Erica. Who are you? Who are you? Also, who's communicating with you at the. hospital? How are you getting firsthand. updates from from who? Particularly at. the hospital. Um, and when I hear that.

description, we got to figure out how to. he's you've got to go here. It sounds. like they were then going to immediately. go to the hospital, right? You got to. figure out how to get to the hospital. And I, by the way, want to say that that. sounds like a journey that would have. been really easy to figure out because. they had three additional black SUV. rentals in their possession. Here's a. refresher on that. Here's the map of. cars. Okay, now we know that that Yukon. Denali is gone, which was being driven.

by Christopher, but we have a Jeep. Wagoner, which was a security vehicle. that was being driven by Alex Faria, Dan. Flood. We've got the Lincoln Navigator, which was being driven by Justin Davis. You've got another Yukon Denali back. there that was driven by Danny Phillip. So, what's the issue? Why do we need to. figure anything out? Let's go. Let's get. to the hospital. We have no other value. here. Check up make I guess you could. say you could check on the employees. That's not what they were doing. Then we discovered and revealed to the.

public that no, Mikey did not. immediately go to the hospital. He. actually gave an interview, a statement. of sorts to a woman from IAK. IAK stands. for Internet Crimes Against Children. We. had wondered out loud why that would be. the correct person to be taking a. statement from Mikey McCoy. Is he a. child? Is he on the internet? By the way, I can tell you this that. woman, that officer has since left her. position. By the way, her name is uh Fia. Aisi. Fia spelled Fia A. Fuller name is. Lafayettea Aisi. And she is no longer.

doing that. But after that interview with her, what. Mikey does is he dips into an SUV. presumably to make a phone call. someplace quiet. I bet it was noisy. And. when he reemerges, it's time to go to. the hospital. And I was thinking, still, you've got all these extra rentals. I'm. assuming the crew is just going to jump. in them. No, that's not what's going to. happen. What other options do they have? You're probably imagining. I mean, can.

we all agree that it would be kind of. weird if they instead tried to call an. Uber rather than taking these very. expensive per day rental SUVs? Doesn't make any sense. It would make. zero sense for them not to direct the. remaining personal security team to. drive them or at least one of the. remaining members of the security team. to drive them to the hospital. But as we all know, nothing in the story. actually makes sense. I mean, the story. itself features magic bullets, men of.

steel necks. It can only continue upon a. path of absurdity, right? So, what. happens next, I can show you, is that. Blake and Danny Phillip reappear upon. the scene just before 1 p.m. local time, by the way. Where were you, Blake? What were you doing in all that time? Do. you remember where you went, Blake, after Mikey's quivering lip? because. Mikey came back. Mikey's giving a.

statement. Where did you and Danny go? I. want you to think about that. I know. you're watching. I want you to think. about that. In the meantime, I'm I'm. gonna explain to audiences what happens. after you reemerge with your little. group. What reemer you guys reemerge and. then what happens is they are escorted. by what appears to be federal officers. into completely different vehicles. It's. like Uber, but where the driver is a fed. is the best way I can describe describe. it. And I don't want you guys to take my. word for it. I want you to watch it.

Seeing is believing. Here is Blake at. first returning to the scene. You're. going to see Danny McCoy and Nate Walker. with him. And I mean, not Danny McCoy, pardon me, Danny Phillip and Nate Walker. with him. And you're going to pay. attention to that top right quadrant of. your screen near the caution tape. We're. going to go full on this. I'll let you. watch it. Take a look. And just so you guys know, we slightly. enhanced this to make the images a.

little sharper on your screen in case. people want to download this stuff. You can see there you go. There's Blakey. and Nate. and Danny and an officer. And that actually looks like that might. be Jeff Long. Chief Jeff Long. That's. there. You can see the security. There's an.

open vehicle. Looks ready. Okay. Next up, we find our characters Blake. Nef, Danny Phillip, and Nate Walker. and. security members Blake Hariff, Blake. Gibson, and Charlie's driver, we we have. identified as Christopher Roads. More on. him later. They're going to begin a. group walk toward the back parking lot. It looks it's a um employee parking lot.

that's just behind the Hall of Flags. Uh. and then you're going to they're going. to traverse through the admin lot. through toward what is a federal car. lineup. And I'm calling this a federal. car lineup before I show you guys this. because the all the vehicles are white. and this I have learned is a federal. officer thing. They drive these unmarked. white vehicles. Um you know what Skyler, let's actually first take them through. the map so they can see visually what's.

going to happen. Okay. So, let's uh get. into. where the cars are initially parked. right there. Okay. And then what they're. going to do is they're going to come. down. Yep. And you see that's a parking. lot. That's going to be right there. That L1 employee parking lot. They're. going to kind of run through that over. past the tree line into if you want to. just kind of make a circle here. Yeah. Like past the admin parking lot. And.

there there's going to be a ton of cars. where you see that roundabout, a ton of. like white vehicles all around here that. are lined up. Okay, again, this is just. before uh 1:00 p.m. We're going to show. you that. And I'm showing you this. because it's going to be a bit blurry. So, let's uh first do this in a labeled. slideshow and then I'll show you the. actual videos. Here we go. So, what you have here is there's Mikey.

McCoy, you have Nate walking toward him, and you also have Blake Gibson, and just. behind him, let's go to slide two. You're going to see that's Chris. Rhodess, Charlie's driver. That is. Danny, very easily identified because of. his back, his backpack, and that is. Blake. So, they're just behind them. Get. to this next slide. This is what I was. showing you sort of going toward the. admissions lot you and they're kind of. all just kind of under that tree. This.

is the route that they are taking. taking. You've got Nate Walker, Danny. Phillip, Blake Nef, and Mikey McCoy in. this shot. And then making up the tail. end, you have Christopher Rhodess and. Blake Heriff. And we can go to the next. slide. And then what happens is they. divide. into two separate white vehicles. It's a lot of white vehicles. They. divide into two separate white vehicles. which are going to we're going to show. you vehicle one you've got Mikey an.

officer. Blake Nef Nate Walker and Danny Phillip. And in vehicle two you have the security. team Blake Gibson Blake Heriff and. Christopher Rhodess. And again the. vehicle is being driven by an officer. Now we're going to watch this. I'm sorry. if you're listening to this on audio. You are going to have to switch to. video. It's a lot happening on the. screen. We're going to watch them. walking. I've already told you who the. characters are. I'm just going to take. this full screen. Let's first watch them.

begin to move away from behind the Hall. of Flags. Take a look. So, you can see. they're all starting to walk there on. the left. Nate, Blake, Blake, a lot of Blakes in the. story. Three Blakes actually. And then. you see Chris is making up that tail end. top left quadrant. Uh, that's Charlie's. driver. Okay, now let's go to video two. You can see them coming across that back.

lot I just described to you. That's the. employee lot. You're going to see Nate. run up to Mikey. Mikey puts his arm. around him. They're walking and you can. see Danny is making up that tail end. with. Blake Nef. and Chris. They're going to keep going across this. lot and that's going to bring them to. the admissions lot where you're going to. see them just in the tree line.

There we go. There they are on that. right hand side. the whole crew. And in the next video, you're going to. see that they're going to split and get. into two separate white vehicles.

There they are. Sorry, I probably put. should have put a little circle for you. guys, but I think you can see that where. they are at least. And splitting to the. left. are Mikey and Blake Nef and Danny. Phillip with the federal officer. And on. the right. getting into that white vehicle. I. definitely should have given you guys a. circle there. I'm sorry about that.

What I can do is I can play it again for. you so that you have it. Well, I guess. you guys can rewind and you can see. there are two white vehicles and then. they're going to take off straight. the left hand. Look at that top left. quadrant. You're going to still see that. that's Mikey and them getting into that. white vehicle right there parked on the. side.

And then they're going to pull off and. go straight. And that white car that's. behind them is actually going to come. around. is where the security members the the. car that's featuring the security. members. Guys, while I'm live, could you. mind just circling the two cars they get. into for like an on a still somehow so. that I can show that to them later so. they know what they're looking for um. the next time they run it back? That's totally fine. Yeah, take your. time. Anyway, so in car number one by. the end, as I stated, we have Mikey.

McCoy, we have Nate Walker, we have. Danny Phillip, and what appears to me to. be a federal officer given the car. And. we can confirm that they went straight. to Tempanogus Hospital because the local. news caught them arriving. And that's. exactly who arrives. And it's about. 1:10ish p.m. Take a look at this. >> We have a lot of news still to cover. here. We want to show you live pictures. which we've just gotten into the Fox 5. Atlanta newsroom uh out of Utah um where. we're continuing to follow developments.

surrounding the shooting of Republican. activist Charlie Kirk who was on a. campus nearby talking to students as he. frequently does. He is the leader of the. Republican youth movement. President. Trump called him instrumental in getting. him reelected as president. There was a. shooting today and Charlie Kirk's. representatives confirming that he was. shot and is being treated at this. hospital.

>> By the way, if anybody recognizes or and. can ID that police officer that's. walking them into Temponogus who drove. them, um, please email us at more. tips.com. We would like to identify every single. person in this story. My question, however, is where did group. number two go? We've got missing security people that. got into the separate white vehicle. We. have Blake Gibson. We have Blake Hariff.

And we have Christopher Rhodess. Can we. actually pull up the uh map of the. security team so people can refresh. themselves on who Blake Gibson and Blake. Heriff are. Um Charlie's driver is not. in this shot, but you've got Blake. Gibson. He's the one with the slick back. hair. Um, and you have Blake Heriff and. they're in that car and they're with. Chris who was Charlie's driver. Where. did they go? They weren't driving. It. looks looks to be another federal. officer. And we don't see them arriving at the. hospital with Blake. So, we can safely.

assume that they didn't just follow them. to provide further security. They. weren't like, "Okay, we're going to make. sure Charlie got hit, but we're going to. make sure that, you know, Blake, Nef, and Danny are safe." They're not with. them walking into the emergency room. Where do they go? Especially since their. rental cars are left behind at the UVU. scene. And more crucially, I I just want to. point out this is now after 1:00 p.m.

What What's going on? If if they're not. going straight to the hospital and. escorting them and walking with them. inside, what's going on? Why are two out. of three of those security members, and. this is the biggest question, why do. they come back wearing scrubs? Remember Blake Heriff um and Blake. Gibson are going to come back wearing. scrubs. that evening, but Christopher Rhodess, Charlie's.

driver, will not be wearing scrubs if. they were all together. Christopher Rhodess, as we know, is the. one who mysteriously went up to the. rooftop with Nate Walker just before the. shot um rang out. And he leaves his car. wide open. Presumably, he does not. change into hospital scrubs. Why not? if. they're all together. I'm starting to wonder and I will do so. out loud. Were the hospital scrubs.

actually even given to them by the. hospital staff or did they go somewhere. else? Were scrubs in general which you. can get your hands on and just purchase. handed out to them by federal officers? I'm wondering regarding the security. I'm wondering maybe people have. information about that, but I'd like to. know where they went. Maybe they gave. statements. and they maybe they went to. a federal office and gave statements. Also, um I'd also like to ask out loud,

wonder out loud why on earth these. virtual kids, right, just fresh out of. college. Nate Walker is like what the. second assistant, he just started. working. Mikey McCoy, okay, he's been. there longer. He's super young. Danny. Phillip just started working in May. Why. are they receiving this level of. treatment at all? Why? If you're a. federal officer and the assassination. takes place, why would you be speaking. to these first, second, and third. assistants, why are they not being immediately.

forced out of the investigation? If they. want to go to the hospital, you got to. find your own way there. Why are they be. being treated in this way where they are. being personally escorted by officers to. the hospital? Think of any other scenario, any other. event. I've never seen that happen. I'd. be like, "Who are you? I'm sorry. This. is This is a federal investigation. You're a third assistant, Nate Walker. I'm sorry. Who are you, Danny? Why would. I Why would I put you into a federal.

vehicle?" And don't say, "Oh, because. they were witnesses." Tons of people. were witnesses. Okay? They're not. They're going to the hospital to go see. Charlie. How does that make any sense? Who who made that call? that would make sense for his wife to. receive an escort, not his third assistant. They're all What are they all listening. to Mikey? Are the federal officers listening to. Mikey dictate? Okay. Who.

Who ordained him? I'd like to know who. ordained him in that scenario where. suddenly he's calling the shots like a. general and you have federal officers. escorting them to the hospital and why. doesn't make sense to me. If there's an. obvious answer, please share it. On. another note, by now you have probably. drawn to the fact that we did make a. positive ID on Charlie's driver, Christopher Roads, spelled with an A. R. H O A D E S. I also want to be clear.

that there is another security member by. the exact same name that works for the. new security team at Turning Point USA, FRG Security. That is not him. Do not. email me about him. It's just the same. name. Two separate people. Roads is. obviously a very common last name. So. that's not suspicious at all. Uh but the. one we were looking for is Christopher. Rhodess. And from what we gather, he. appears to be from Texas, and he is. working with Brian Harpole. Um I I will. leave it at that. He is working with.

Brian Harpole. Still weird, I will say, because that was the very first person. that we've ever tried to identify on the. show with so much difficulty. That I know he's involved in private. security and in that world, but that was. very, very strange. More on that later. I mean, I'm sure some people must have. grown up with him in Texas. Uh, if you. know anything, I would love to get in. touch with Christopher Rhodess. If you. can establish some connection between me. and him, please reach out. I'd love to.

get answers as we continue to. investigate this. More tips at. candacewowens.com. Anyway, your move, Blakey. your move because you. just it it sounded like you guys were. rushing to the hospital and I don't. think that really was the circumstance. Actually, I I can verify it wasn't the. circumstance. So, was Mikey coordinating. the Fed stuff? Was it Danny? Was it you?

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The War on Reality. On that, we can. agree there is a war on reality. Now, we. might disagree on some of the details. I. think the war. um is being brought by your ilk. I I I. that's how it feels. I don't know. Magic. bullets telling us we have to believe. it. elephant clipping uh to make us all. see a bunch of information, believe that. it's organic and it's catching fire. The. war on reality I feel is an appropriate. title. I don't know if you are the.

appropriate author, Frank Turk, because. I think you are engaged in that war. Now, I want to read you his account of. what happened um after Charlie got hit. And you're going to notice that there. are some slight changes to the. narrative. And when I say slight, I mean. not slight at all. Massive changes. Let's read this first excerpt. I hear a loud pop and see Charlie go. down. I yell, "No, no, no." as I take a. step toward him. But a security team is. already there. So, I run along with them.

to the SUV that we had arrived in. Meanwhile, my son and daughter-in-law. are hearing all of this live as I. instinctively shove my phone into my. back pocket without hanging up. Fearing. this would happen one day, I told myself. in advance that if it ever did, I would. do whatever I could to help Charlie. He. was like a son to me. So I crawl into. the back of the SUV trying to help in. any way I can. Charlie's security team, Justin, Dan, Brian, and Rick, men who. loved Charlie, too, are much cooler. under pressure than I am. They calmly. but swiftly do exactly what they were.

trained to do. While I'm perched over. the back seat, looking down at Charlie. and yelling, "That was my special. skill." Justin is driving, Dan is in the. passenger seat, holding his phone with. directions to the hospital. To my left, Rick is in the back with Charlie's head. in his lap, and Brian is to my right at. the other end of 6'4 Charlie, whose feet. are hanging out the open back right. door. I'm not sure how Brian manages to. stay in the SUV as we yank and bank our. way to the hospital. Just got to get it.

in there. Door open. No sirens, no emergency. lights, just raw adrenaline. When we get. about halfway there, an ambulance is. barreling toward us in the opposite. direction from the hospital. We debate. stopping for half a second, but think. better of it and press on. Justin hits. the gas as we barge through. intersections like traffic laws were. merely suggestions. That's when someone. recalls just enough self-preservation to. yell, "Let's get us there in one piece.".

In the back, Rick and I are praying out. loud while urging Charlie to respond. All three of us in the back are trying. to stop the bleeding. Wait, hold on. All three of us are still trying to stop. the bleeding. That's a problematic. statement, Frank, because you did not try to stop the. bleeding. You've never made that claim. that you tried to stop the bleeding.

Brian Harpole certainly has never made. that claim that you tried to stop the. bleeding. Um, this is actually, I would. say, in stark contrast to Brian. Harpole's account. This is not something. that you can tell us that you forgot or. simply got wrong or you had different. accounts. This describes some someone is. lying. Okay. You either tried to stop. the bleeding, which we were told it was. just Brian. He says he got to work. He's. packing the wound. Um, said that there. was no CPR, that he's the one that's. trying to stop the bleeding. He doesn't. even say Rick Cutler is trying to stop.

the bleeding. So, you wrote in your book. that all three of us are in the back. trying to stop the bleeding. That's weird. That's wrong. You were supposed to be just praying in. the back seat. Now you claim in a published and an. edited book that. no, you got to work on Charlie. That's a. discrepancy that I cannot allow. Let's. listen to what Brian Harpole said on.

John Ryan. >> The problem is we're going down the road. and Charlie's so tall that his leg, his. left leg is down in the door and the. door won't close. And so I'm on my knees. with the door open with my butt hanging. out of the side and I'm on my knees. doing the medical and Justin's driving. you know, we're going 60, 80, 100. And. Rick has me across the kit and my shirt.

so that I can use both hands to do the. medical one. >> And so I don't fall out of the car. >> So I don't fall out. And I just look at. him and I don't need to say, "You got. me. He's got me. I know he's got me. Rick's a brother. He's got the tattoo.". And so I was like, "He's got me." And so. I just I'm just working medical and uh. Frank's praying out loud. Uh Rick's. praying out loud. When did you.

try to stop the bleeding? And how did. you try to stop the bleeding? Cuz now we have to imagine that Brian. blacked out the entire ride. Like that's. the only way. for him to have completely forgot that. you not only helped to stop the. bleeding, but also for the last 30. seconds or so, the last minutes, couple. of minutes, whatever it is that you. said, you also said you provided CPR, but Brian was distracted. Well, how. distracted was he? He didn't even notice. you were trying to stop the bleeding. first.

Again, does not make sense to me. Let's. keep reading. All three of us were in the back are are. still trying to stop the bleeding. I. switch to CPR. So, we're supposed to. imagine three of them are trying to stop. the bleeding. And then Frank switches to. CPR. Brian's going to black out at this. point. But Charlie isn't there. His eyes. are fixed. He isn't looking at me. He's. looking past me right into eternity. We. burst into the hospital yelling for help. into what felt like an empty emergency.

room. And for an agonizing minute, no. one seemed ready. were yelling for help. Then within a couple of minutes, a. medical team descend on them. Descend on. him. They get a pulse, a flicker of. hope. They rush him to an operating. room. Okay. So, couple of things right. off the bat that registered to me as. odd. It's not in a published book. You. had no recall or mention of a fire. captain doing CPR, which was revealed by.

the Independent Review. H where where's that part you? By the. way, I do want to say I fully believe. you on the hospital being empty. As we. said, it's been alleged that they moved. everybody out a couple of hours before. for reasons that are not yet clear. Also, if you're saying, and again, you're writing this, you're editing. this, you're thinking through this, we. can't, this isn't a simple mistake. It's. not like you're speaking it. You you are.

writing a book and documenting your. experience. You say you switched to CPR. Nobody else remembers, but you curiously. leave out the fire captain. Who's the. fire captain? Who is the fire captain? Where is the fire captain in this. narrative? And then you tell us that. a medical team descended on him and they. they got a pulse. There would there was. a flicker of hope. They rushed him to an. operating room. I remember learning that. that was actually what Brian did. That.

Brian found the room. That Brian, and I. don't think he could do this in two. minutes, cut the shirt, got the ready. for the defibrillator. That Brian then. escorted himself out of the room. I. don't know. These details are getting a. little bit hazy for me. Let's keep reading. I'm also going to. correct a typo in this book. He says, "I. embrace Don." This misspelled it for. this little section. He's referring to. Dan Flood. I embrace Dan Flood, the head. of Charlie security, and tell him that.

this is not his fault. Dan's team only. had jurisdiction over Charlie's. immediate area. That is a printed lie. That's a printed lie. The local and university police were. supposed to have secured the larger. areas, including the rooftops. That is a. printed lie. Dan later showed me a text confirming. exactly that similar breaches of. security that we saw in Butler,

Pennsylvania tragically came to Utah. that day. Rick and I continue to pray. out loud. Now, we had showed you um a. few days ago when he went on to Brand. Tatum show and he said sort of this. narrative and then quickly shifted. He. said, "Yeah, in the hospital Dan showed. me the text. between him and. um Chief Long." And they said he. actually showed it to me a couple of. days later. That seems to be like a. crucial detail. When did he show you. this text? Because it shouldn't have. been that soon. We didn't know that it.

was Lo's rooftop. Nobody at the hospital. should have known that the shot came. from a rooftop that quickly because they. were still investigating. It could have. come from the audience. It could have. come from the side. Nobody knew anything. at that time. So, it would be very odd. if Dan showed him that message at the. hospital. But, of course, with Frank, the details change. It gets hazy. He. says later, we don't know how much. later. He continues, "Soon, Charlie's chief of. staff, 23-year-old Mikey McCoy, arrives. at the hospital. Like Charlie, he.

carries a maturity far beyond his years. Mikey has already sent a plane to get. Erica and is on the phone with the. United States Vice President, JD Vance. About 30 minutes after our arrival, the. surgeon from the O steps into the. hallway where we're all standing. his. expressions like stone. He sternly. announces, "He's dead." "No, no, I'm. sorry. No, we tried everything, just the. verdict delivered with all the. tenderness of a brick." He then demands. to talk to Erica on the phone, perhaps.

hoping to practice the bedside manner he. seemingly forgot to use on the rest of. us by delivering the news to the. grieving widow himself. Now, when Blake tells the story, it makes it. seem like Mikey is the one that. delivered the news to Erica. Blake just. told us, he said, "No one's giving any. information to Erica. I'm going to be. the one to call her." Uh, Frank is not. clear here as to whether or not uh Mikey.

is there when they find out the news. from this surgeon. that Charlie is dead. According to my. timeline, Mikey should not have been. there for that announcement. So, I'm not. sure if this is meant to be. chronological, but Mikey and them should should have. arrived just after according to our. timeline because Victor Marks had. already tweeted out that Charlie was. dead. Um, announced rather that Charlie. was dead onto his social media accounts. And like I said, this just in general.

conflicts with Mike with Blake's earlier. assertion that Mikey was the general. Mikey was the conduit of information. Everything had to come through Mikey and. he was the one that was providing the. updates. For what it's worth, between the two of. them, I believe frank on this. I I I. think the surgeon was the one that's. that's what I was told that he was the. one that called Erica with the news. And. yeah, I'm going to keep it at that. But. there are a lot of conflicting stories. in this narrative, and it makes me very.

uncomfortable that Frank just cannot. remember what happened on the way to the. hospital. It makes me uncomfortable that. seemingly uh a VIP um red carpet was. rolled out for effectively a bunch of. just graduated college kids. Does it. make sense to me? It makes me wonder why. it took so long for them to get to the. hospital. And I'm referring to Nate and. Blake and Mikey. If you're going to be.

his assistants, why are they hanging. around? And like I said, who ordained. Mikey on that day? If the story is true. and he was the point person for all. things, the question is who permitted. that? And that keeps happening. It's. like it's like the feds were listening. to the team rather than the other way. around because don't forget Frank then. tells a story that he's the one who told. the feds that he'll be taking Charlie's. necklace from the car. That's what he.

said. We actually received a different. tip about that necklace. And I'm told it was a totally different. version of events that took place at the. hospital, not um when Frank went back to the car. to grab his backpack and then said, "There it is. There's the necklace that. we've all been looking for for some. strange reason.". But I'm still hunting down information. and I want to make sure that I'm 100%. when I deliver it. So I will ask anybody. regarding Temponogos again if you know.

who the fire chief was. The fire. captain, pardon me, fire captain that. administered CPR to Charlie at the. hospital. Please, we would like to hear from you. Again, we want people that have. information. I know we know how to. research and we obviously have it down. to a very small pool of individuals that. that it likely was. We want concrete. information. who was the fire captain. that I work with him. I want somebody to. say I'm married to him. I'm He's my.

cousin. He was the one that did CPR that. day. That's the information that we're. looking for. So, we can confirm. We are. down to two possibilities, but we want. an absolute confirmation. You can email. us more tips@candice.com. Um, we'll be right back after a brief. break. All right, you guys. Imagine it's. 3:00 a.m. You're fast asleep and. suddenly you hear a noise in your house. What's your move? I mean, naturally, you'd freak out a little, start fumbling. with the keys to your safe, and maybe. think, "Okay, where did I put my. firearm?" And that is exactly why I. started using the Stopbox Pro, and it.

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left hand side is going to be the Mikey. McCoy car, Blake Nef and Danny Phillip. to the hospital escorted by an officer. And then we have another officer driving. on the right hand side. And we have. Christopher Rhodess and the two Blakes. on the security team, Blake Heriff and. Blake Gibson. And I again want to stress. that they. Mikey's vehicle goes straight. and we were able to track that the. security vehicle goes around the um.

little roundabout there and then seems. as if it's heading. um the opposite direction. And that bet. might be because of where it's parked, but I am left wondering where they went. There are a remarkable amount. You can. see all around the roundabout there are. a ton of fed vehicles. That's these are. that's the police undercover vehicles, fed vehicles, and we know that they get. into two of them and pull off.

Interesting. Why Why can't the security. drive themselves? Why is everyone being. treated like a federal VIP on this day? For what reason? Why are they coming. back in scrubs? We need answers. And I think we have some answers. Top comments from yesterday's episode. Blake speaking again on a live murder. I. meant to say I said married. Okay. Vicle Fairy writes Blake done nef.

I love that. Blake done nef again every. single time. Little dudet writes. So, Andrew said, "Guilt instead of grief. We're processing our guilt." Erica said, "Grift instead of grit." That is true. Blake said, "Murdered instead of. married." I wonder who will be next to. make a slip. God does work in mysterious. ways. The truth needs no campaign. It. always comes out in the end. Absolutely. I agree with you. I can actually show. you guys in case you never saw that. We.

didn't show it on the show when Erica. said grift instead of grit while she was. introducing the president of UVU, Caleb. Chilikut at Amfest 2025. Caleb Chilut, a rising senior and. chapter president at Utah Valley. University, has been involved with. Turning Point USA since 2023. Despite the devastating loss of Charlie. Kirk, my incredible husband at UVU, Caleb has persisted with the same grift. Excuse me. Gift. Grit.

It has been a long day. Trust me, you're not a grifter, honey. It's all good. Yeah, it is something. When they. misspeak, it sure is something. Comments. from today's episode. Alaska Dog Lady. writes, "Happy 400 from your OG gang. The Qatari money crowd seems to forget. hands signed kissandis cups. I have. one." and man, I remember that. This is.

the OG crowd. Way to grind. Truth grows. organically. God bless. And St. Jon of. Arc, pray for us. Christ is king. Thank. you so much for being along on the. journey. We have more exciting news. about in a bit, but um we're just really. grateful for the audience and the. loyalty that you guys have given us. Uh. Schlay Walt writes, "Someone needs to. take away the internet from Turning. Point at this point. It's great to see. you laughing. I feel like you get the. giggles every time you're pregnant. God. bless you and your family. We ride at. dawn for Candace. You have an army. They. have she who must not be named. Everyone.

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Uh, do you actually have that clip? Yeah, let's play it. Actually, this is true. I walked into. your um kitchen and there was some lady. from behind who was like making. something on the counter or something. and I was like, "Oh, dang. They got a. little thicky in here. They got a little. little lady from Atlanta working over. here." And then I didn't I forgot you. were pregnant. He turned around. It was. me. >> and it was. >> I didn't even hear you say that. I'm a. little. >> No, I didn't say it out loud. No, I. don't even. >> said it in your head. >> Yeah, I said, "Oh, dang. They got.

>> And now you said it out loud.". >> Dang. >> Girls love you. >> What the heck? Where are they? >> There's a lot of them. I get like text. messages. I get Instagram stuff. You're. You're in your prime. You got to go out. there. >> I got to get out there. >> Yeah. You got to find your You got to. get out there. I was going to take a nap later. I'm not now getting on my bike. >> It was like kind of a farmers only. dating thing or whatever, but I think it. was or not dark. It was darker farmer. women or tanned farmer women and you. were like the most tan on there or. something like that. Yeah, it was just a. conservative female dating site or.

something. >> What? Count on darker farmer women. >> Look, I don't think it's a bad look. >> No, that's so make it sound very. negative. It's a good place for people. to meet people. >> Why are you on these websites? >> I'm not on them all the time. >> He is absolutely hilarious. Truly. Um, and yeah, thank you to the millions of. you guys who have already watched that. episode. Um, where was I? Nary.

Nary, I hope I'm saying that right. God. bless you, Candace, your team, your. family, and everyone who has come. forward to share information. I pray. people stand for truth, for truth lies. in Jesus Christ. You shall know the. truth and the truth shall make you free. Amen. John 8. Everyone, na nona nona's. fave five. Candace, I'm so confused with. the behavior of Blake Nef, Andrew Kova, and Erica Kirk. It's almost like they. don't want facts about what happened to. Charlie. Blink twice twice if I am. close. Lol. Enjoy the little one. God. bless you and yours. I mean, from the.

beginning, that's what it's felt like. It's like they just never wanted it to. be investigated. And people obviously. register that as weird. And that's why I. say a war on reality is an appropriate. title. I just don't think Frank Turk. should be the author of that because it. they have been the people that have. launched this war on reality trying to. tell us like no what she's doing is. normal everybody or everybody grieavves. differently and by not grieving she's. actually grieving and it's normal that. she's taken over his company and she has. no experience and it's normal that she. didn't feel any fear right afterward or. that she didn't want to keep her. children away from it not knowing um who.

the killer was. It's normal that she. forgave the killer and can't forgive. Duski. None of it's normal. And so that. is the war we're fighting. That is we. are the people that are seeing reality. for what it is, asking questions, and. their response is just, well, we've got. the power, and we know people in. government. We know the officials. We've. got the president on speed dial. We get. escorted by feds if to go to the. hospital. Um, yeah, that's kind of it's. just sort of gross. This is clearly. Turning Point 2.0 is nothing like.

Turning Point USA 1.0. which was a grassroots movement and that. people people and students followed and. wanted to believe in and believing that. the country could be changed. Now we're. learning the country can be changed in. the most spiritually dark ways. People. that are handpicked. It feels like they. just kind of put the mightest touch on. Erica. Who is Midas? I don't know. Someone in Vegas if I had to guess. Pollo writes, "The more unhinged Blake. Nef gets, the more flamboyant he.

becomes." He does. He's a little, that's. the right word. Blake is flamboyant. He's just a girl from the Valley and he. wants to gossip with the girls. He is. obviously not somebody who could ever. take over the Charlie Kirk show. I think. that deeply upsets him. Like I said, he. clearly had a mother who loves him. greatly. Told him that he was talented. in ways that he most certainly is not. I. mean, Blake is in in a way he's impressive. I.

would describe him as impressive. He. leaves an impression. That's that. That's all I could say. That's all I could offer. Emiline Irish. writes, "Keep up the great work, Candace. Sending you prayers and love. from Ireland. You are an inspiration. Continuing to shine the bright light of. honesty and hope in this rough world. God bless you and yours today and. always. Thank you so much for saying. that. Um, it's been a journey, but you. know, we are we're getting somewhere. And I can't I can't believe that we've. got people in Latvia that just gave us.

everything we need to know about this. I. know way too much about the Latvia nerd. because all of the Sloohs in Latvia were. just sending me this like here's his. mama, his data, his where he used to. work and think and blink and it was. amazing. I just I love that all over the. world people are writing in and um we're. going to continue to ask you do that. The information has obviously pro uh. proven to be fruitful. Uh even if we. don't respond, you see that we're. presenting the information and crediting. our sleuths back at home. Uh, want to. remind you guys if you would like to. support the show, the easiest way to do. that is by getting some merch on the.

website. Buy yourself a hat. Join the. decentralized intelligent agency which. operates in every country all around the. world. Probably not in Israel, for being. honest. I don't think it operates in. Israel. Um, but everywhere else it seems. that we do operate. And the information, like I said, has been fruitful. I told. my priest that I would chill. That's a. great hat to wear when you just need to. chill and you need to calm down and not. do the thing that you want to do. Just.

take a deep breath and remind yourself. that you told your priest that you would. chill and then chill. Um, also want to. add again just to remind you guys the. information that we are looking for. I. would love to learn a little bit more. about Christopher Rhodess and to. establish connection. Maybe he watches. the show. Who knows? Somebody knows him. I just want information. I And I'm sure. that there are many leads here and. questions that I have that can be. reasonably answered. I don't know why. nobody wants to reasonably answer them.

People just want to threaten and file. lawsuits and that does not make you look. like you are innocent. When you have the. option and Candace texts you Brian. Harple and asks a very simple question, you can just say no and you instead opt. to file a lawsuit and claim. Well, I. didn't answer that question four times. when I was asked it because I didn't. want to contribute to more views. Like, who are you? Like, you think you're like. like Selene Dion, right? You You can't even form a proper. sentence. I was doing the medical. I.

feel like anybody that says I was doing. the medical should not be doing any. medical. Like, if I was going to go in. for a surgery and the doctor was like, I'm okay, I'm going to do the medical. I. was like, "Ah, no, no, no. You will not be doing. anything to me, sir. You will not be. administering any drugs. Nothing at all. Get me someone I can speak to. I'm just. going to do the medical. Open your. mouth. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Dentist. I'm good. Nope. Doesn't pass the sniff test. Doesn't seem like you know what you're.

doing. Don't even know what you're. saying. Anyways, let me stop before I. get double sued by Brian Harpole. We will uh we'll see you guys on Monday.