Meet My Husband, George Farmer | Candace Ep 119

all right guys it's only taken me six. years to book this next guest very. difficult person to book but I made it. happen George farmer welcome to Candace. hi honey come it's taken why do you. never come on my show I try so hard to. get you on the show and it's been six. entire years since you've done that you. know your your skills are in front of. the camera mine are behind them yeah. exactly I like to let you do your thing. I do my thing we do our own things you. know well I have a list of questions. that the internet would like to ask.

don't worry it's not too bad I I will. start obviously people love to hear the. story about how we met because it was I. wouldn't even say a bit like a romcom it. actually was a romcom featuring Russell. Brand who does a lot of romcoms he's. actually known for a lot of romcoms and. so uh for those of people that don't. know the story uh it was a wintry night. in London I was filming a podcast with a. very communist Russell Brand by the way. I would like to be very clear he was. very far on left y and it was his Under.

the Skin podcast supposed to be for like. an hour it ended up being 3 hours of. filming and you had a friend Paul Joseph. Watson who was a mutual friend but I had. never met him and he and I were supposed. to meet up to finally meet off of the. internet just to say hi to each other. and he never told me that he had. actually organized an entire dinner for. me and for Charlie Kirk with about 30. people so I had no idea that there was a. dinner being thrown in my honor in which.

he kind of pwned off to you to organize. a dinner mhm so I arrive 3 hours late my. assistant informs me that there are a. bunch of people waiting for me I get out. of Russell br's house and I was very. apologetic when I arrived 3 hours late. cuz I like to be punctual and I sat next. to you and you basically said nothing to. me correct I did what I've done for the. past six years I just said nothing and. it worked and it worked yeah it. absolutely and then you married me so I.

have no idea why yeah 18 days later. that's right we get engaged and I think. the first question that a lot of my. audience members have is how did your. family and friends react to that this. American Girl Just breezes on in and. then you're like hey I'm going to get. married to this person that I barely. know after 18. days well most of my friends thought. that I was crazy and I'm still not sure. they've recovered from that opinion um.

but the family took it pretty well I. mean my parents were. pretty they again were like a bit kind. of like okay this is very crazy very odd. but sort of we'll go along with it and. see where this goes and then they met. you I think that was a big game Cher for. a lot of people because when they meet. you they're. always as in awe as I was when I first. met you. um but they they were very receptive and. after a while I think everyone realized. that it was real you know and that was.

the really big hurdle to get over was. that everyone initially thought is this. crazy is this just you know like a fire. flung romance um and then it was like. okay this is actually real this is. happening they're going to get married. and then they kind of moved the mood. sort of moved to acceptance and people. got on board and then they realized how. great you were and then everyone was. pretty happy about it did you have any. friend who unbeknown to me was like. listen mate as they say in the UK listen. mate you are making the a really bad.

decision the worst decision possibly of. your life no not really I mean is a. credit to them or discredit to them yeah. probably uh I think it's a credit to. them yeah I mean I think our best my. best man Nick who you obviously know. very well um he his original reaction. was you're crazy um and this is never. going to happen that was really when I. first met you like on the first the.

first night that we first met people. were very when I went back from that. night I was like okay you know there's. this girl very interesting like this. could go somewhere all that kind of. stuff um and his initial reaction was. you're completely insane um but then by. you know come January come February come. March of that of the next year which was. 2019 when we got married it was like. yeah this is happening and this is good. this is good Everyone likes you I. remember for me.

I didn't have anybody in my personal. life that was saying don't do this but I. definitely had people in my professional. life who were saying I will never forget. this we have to call him out right we do. Charlie Charlie Kirk Charles Kirk if you. are watching right now but um obviously. he was very young and he he both of us. were just so absorbed with politics and. we were traveling together everywhere. Charlie really was like a little brother. to me and I remember he's just like you. just cannot do this you don't know this. person and then.

one of the donors to Turning Point USA. was telling him it would be very bad for. my brand and that really stuck with me. that one of the donors said it would be. very bad for your brand for you to like. not marry a black guy from the projects. or something like that that's right yeah. and I was sort of rebutted do you think. it's being bad FBR sort of that's the. real question I think like is it bad F. Brown now well I I do not typically. consider who I'm going to marry as a. brand decision which is what I explained. maybe you should.

but uh yeah we we we got married and we. proved the naysayers wrong and it been a. a very a lot of learning experience and. I think another question a lot of people. have is what is the most difficult part. about being married to Candace. Owens how long have we. got. um well I like to joke with you and you. know that I tell you this joke so really. this is just for the audience but I like. to joke that there are many different.

women I'm married to because I'm never. quite sure who I'm going to get in one. day so it's like someday I'm going to. get one personality and the next day. it's this personality and then you've. got your investigative journalist hat on. and then you've got your mother's hat on. and then you've got your Catholic hat on. so there's a few hats that you're. wearing at any one point in time so it's. always fun I wouldn't say that's. difficult it's really just a joy of who. you are as a person you're being kind. it's also been a tremendous Challenge. and I think think personally to you.

because you're so different from the. environment that you're now stuck into. which is to say yeah that's true you are. an Englishman you like to retreat sort. of read your texts a quiet place with a. cigar mhm Yep this is all correct this. is all very correct and then you marry. this sort of loud American you don't. like taking pictures you don't like. being seen or photographed and then you. marry this loud American and so you've. really had to ad just I think would be.

the correct word yeah it is the meeting. of the two cultures is perfected in our. marriage I would say yeah the bombastic. americanism versus the retired English. Persona has definitely been like fine. tuned but I think that like I mean I. enjoy I love America I mean it it goes. without saying but I love the American. Spirit and culture and you obviously. embody much of that it's it's much more. exciting in so many ways than England.

and that's not to say that I don't love. England because I do love England but. there are Parts about England which. really are just quite like melancholic I. would say and quite nostalgic and that. is not who I am necessarily as a person. I sort of grown tired of that by the. time that we had met I was much more. like needing to reinvigorate my life and. to like find the next big project to. move on to and kind of not saying that. America was a big project but it is. definitely a different culture it's one. which I really enjoy you know which is.

funny because that those are the sort of. the elements that I really loved about. England that I really fell in love with. like sort of the you're always attracted. to the opposite yeah the it's England. particularly London is a bit of a Jane. Austin novel and it's one of those at. least for me one of the cities that. actually like lives up to the. hype and so I used to us I think it's. like it's faded a bit now you know under. sadik Khan who's a pretty terrible man. but many people say that it's changed a. lot.

it we've had a kind of peak age but like. it is beautiful it's a great City it's a. nice city but it's also it's changed a. lot but England as a whole like is very. beautiful country I mean it's filled. with. beautiful you know history tradition. churches. culture the. universities the ancient universities. like Oxbridge darham you know they're. they're wonderful places to visit but it. is in danger of kind of slipping into.

that like European psychosis of just. becoming a beautiful Museum you know and. there's no like there's nothing. invigorating about it it needs to be. revitalized like you need to have. something which is growing and producing. goods and making Society work you know. and kind of it's slipping yeah I think. you've definitely made made me. appreciate a lot of those aspects of. American culture because there is. something about England that is quite. parochial and it seems like it's never. changing with which is beautiful in many.

ways but also sometimes not because you. want things to change uh not necessarily. to give up Traditions not necessarily to. give up Beauty and architecture and. taking your time to make things which I. think America could learn from but. definitely I think in terms of their. willingness to confront certain issues I. would probably say I find the English to. be incredibly polite which I think can. be very frustrating I I would imagine. could be very frustrating people that. live there so for you coming to America.

moving your entire life here after being. a person that's born and raised in. London and has lived in this sort of. quiet sleepy melancholic culture what. has been the biggest change or culture. shock the. bacon obviously the bacon which is. infinitely Superior in America I would. say that um I think it's really. important to be honest about your own C. country and culture American bacon is. just much better than English and.

burgers yep the burgers too um driving. on the right hand side of the road is. the right side of the road to drive on. um definitely having now driven a lot of. miles on both sides of the road but. there are other things like you know. people dress better in England there's. just no doubt about it they dress better. um what would I say is the biggest. culture shock in general though I would. say that um there is definitely an. aspect of what I just mentioned which is. kind of that willing to get up and.

change things and do things which is. really powerful in America like that is. definitely the that is one of the. biggest culture shocks like and there. are other people who have said the same. thing there is um you know I was reading. something the other day where somebody. who previously lived in Germany moved to. America and they basically said before I. moved to America my parent my father. worked in a nonprofit and my mother. worked for the federal government of. Germany and so no one in my life and no. one that I really knew in my life had. ever worked in a for-profit business.

like everyone had either been subsidized. by other people or subsidized by the. state and so when you move to America. like for me that was one of the hugest. things like you you just kind of move. over here there's people just doing. things the whole time and it is a it is. a culture of activity and. entrepreneurial spirit and so that for. me was a huge eye opener uh when I moved. here I would also say. that the other big thing which has kind. of faded in. my acknowledgement of how revolutionary.

it is in some ways is just because it's. now I'm now part of that culture in. America so I've become less receptive to. how big it is but I remember how big it. is when I go back to the UK is Faith. because in America faith is a default. it's. almost it's it's almost something which. people open with in conversations. particularly obviously where we live in. Tennessee you will come across people. the whole time saying what church do you.

go to and I was listening to a. faith-based podcast or I was reading the. Bible or something like that and in. Britain I would argue it is one of the. most advanced secular cultures in the. world and you talk about faith in the. public domain in Britain and people look. at you as if you've got five heads and. it's really just very demoralizing it's. quite um it's quite hostile really to. organized faith and um there's a.

difference between Continental Europe. and the UK Continental Europe has. predominantly been Catholic and there's. much more of a kind of. Hardcore Catholicism in places like. France and Spain obviously Italy is. completely separate because that's where. the home of the church is but you know. you've got these countries in Europe. where there's kind of a hardcore. Catholic movement and so if you say like. I go to mass every day or I I you know. take my faith like Ser seriously and you. say it to one of those people they would. be very receptive to that and there's a.

whole branch of society which is kind of. built around preserving the faith but in. Britain the Anglican Church which is the. state church is. very is very liberal I mean it's. incredibly Progressive and as a result. most people have most of British Society. have no real Faith Life and so faith in. the public domain is just not something. talked about and so over here you come. over here it's it's amazingly refreshing. to. be in America where people are so open.

not just to the idea of talking about. faith but so open to learning about. faith so open to talk that conversion. experiences happen the whole time over. here whereas they're kind of rare in the. UK um but yeah that's probably one of. the biggest culture shocks I'd say yeah. that's interesting because it's it's a. it's a bit of a paradox when you. consider the fact that if you could. attribute the Beauty and the. timelessness and the inspiration of. Europe to anything it would be. Christianity and so to hear so many.

people say that they've abandoned those. roots it it's just it's interesting how. they've landed upon that but that's a. perfect segue because obviously one of. the biggest questions that we get about. you or the most frequent questions that. we get about you is about your faith not. exactly a usual scenario for someone to. leave the Anglican church and become a. Catholic uh least of. all uh when they were actually raised. with a strong faith so I guess can you. just speak a little bit to your faith.

Journey speaking about your household. how you were raised whether your parents. had Faith have faith and um and then. let's get into your decision. to we say in America study theology you. would say to read theology in the UK at. Oxford yeah so I mean my parents are. both Evangelical Christians. um and as you know um my sister's are. also like they have a mixed Faith Life.

one of them is very devout the other one. is not um I was raised in a home which. is still to this day like my parents. house would be very built around the. Bible would be bu very built around a. daily prayer life um a weekly Church. attendance like that would be something. that is just Bible studies like very. regular involved in the church Faith was. a huge part of our life growing up you. quickly became aware of that in England. just going back to my previous answer. about how secular it is because when you.

say that you go to church on Sunday in. the UK that is not normal and so as a. result by the time that you're cognizant. of kind of having that discussion with. your peers at a very young age like S 8. 9 10 at a boy School in in London you. become very aware that faith is. different um that for me was probably. the starting the starting block. because then what happened was I started. to become more interested in why I was. different like I started to become more.

interested in why my family had a Faith. Life had a religious life um versus the. rest of the kind of secular school boys. who didn't and so for me that kind of. started a long journey of becoming quite. interested in Theology and Faith um by. the time that I was um 12. 134 I was very aware that Faith was a. huge part of how I saw the world um so.

it just it's different I mean if you are. brought up in a faith-filled home you. will realize that. Faith religion has a huge impact on the. way people are shaped and that was. equally as being played out in the UK. during my formative years by radical. Islam as it was being played out by my. own Faith formation in Christianity.

because at the end of the Cold War of. course we had this great 10-year window. where historians and philosophers. famously Francis fuky said this is the. end of History neoliberal capitalism has. won we will never see the rise of. another ideology again in the same way. that communism and capitalism had to. face off against each other and in the. early. 2000s that couldn't have been proved. more wrong because this was where when. the rise of radical Islam happened and.

particularly in Europe This is felt this. was felt very strongly and so for me I. was witnessing things like London. bombings going on in my teenage years. versus my own faith formation in. Christianity and this made me realize by. quite a young age that Faith religion is. just a huge part of people's life you. know it is a huge part it is almost the. greatest Force which drives it is the.

greatest Force which drives the world. and I would also say the lack of faith. as well yeah yeah a faith in nothing. yeah exactly because they always replace. it with a faith in something else yeah. which is kind of an interesting way of. looking at it yeah yeah I mean in the UK. and again this is this is because of the. UK's Advanced secular. culture in some ways you look at you. look at radical Islam in in Europe well. what's. what's Islam reacting to like why are so.

many young men in Europe being drawn to. Islam the reason being is because the. void it's the void nature abhor a vacuum. and so you you've had the churches in. Europe whether it be the Catholic church. or the Protestant churches they have. stripped themselves of true Theology and. Cath the the Catholic church in Europe. is as guilty as this of anyone else.

you've had a you've had this Progressive. weak wishy-washy liberal gospel being. preached by you know every Pastor Under. the. Sun and then you've got this religion. which crops up which. shows affirmative action absolute. strength you know these are the tenants. which appeal to young men particularly. in Europe um and of course in the Middle.

East but you know predominantly in. Europe a lot of the radicalism within. Europe is now homegrown it's not come. it's not being imported it's being. homegrown and so this is the key you. know driving force is the fact that. theology like Christianity in Europe has. been stripped of its actual truth its. Eternal truth and that's not to say that. okay you know there would be no. conversion to Islam if Christianity was. standing on its own two feet but it's. definitely the case that if you look at. the UK for example you've got this.

Progressive weak Anglican Church which. is basically saying that you know. leftwing politics is good and you know. the predominant role of the church is to. care about the environment and you know. all this kind of nonsense and actually. of course people don't just they don't. just want a social gospel they want. Eternal truth and they want real Faith. they want to be told this is how you. should live your life right this is the. real meaning of life it's not just.

about you know the environment and Net. Zero and whatever else that we coming. out with what you're talking about is. really just the absence of authority and. and structure and people actually crave. that in the end it reminds me of when I. hosted uh Andrew Tate I want to say it. was a couple years ago maybe it was last. year but he similarly said I I pressed. him on why he left Christianity yeah and. the answer he gave which was very. interesting for me to consider was he. basically said Christianity became weak. and Christians don't defend themselves.

they allow people to disrespect Jesus. Christ and how are people supposed to be. drawn to something that has been weak. and obviously startling upsetting to. hear but he is echoing I think what you. are what you are speaking to which is. that there there does need to be a. return to a a trer faith guys I wanted. to throw it to one of our sponsors. pre-born because we know that every. baby's life is a precious gift full of. potential and dreams waiting to unfold. this is why pre-born the nation's. largest pro-life organ ganization is on. the front lines for atrisk babies and.

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young 13 years old but so that's how you. are and uh when did you make the. decision I'm actually going to study. this at Oxford like I'm going to I. actually want to continue this Pursuit. with. theology yeah um was it right away did. you consider a second subject it was I. sort of thought about history at one. point um but it was quite clear to me I. think that theology was the answer you I. was very interested in it as I said I.

was just very very interested in it I by. the time I was 15 I had begun the. conversion experience that I then went. through for the next 5 years to. Catholicism which culminated in me. converting when I was at Oxford uh let. not let's slow this part down because. this is the this is pretty big obviously. especially as uh like I said someone. raised Anglican so you're at Oxford. you're studying theology what moved you. as an Evangelical to the Catholic Fai. Faith which I imagine you were raised.

with a different understanding a. different perspective evangelicals do. tend to hold a lot of I would say strong. feelings against the Catholic faith both. here and abroad the of Babylon no. um that is some some evangelicals would. say that but it yes of course I mean it. was I was brought up in a home where I. think it was viewed with suspicion at. best um although you know to give my.

parents credit where it was due they had. always basically said that it was the. personal relationship with Jesus which. mattered more than anything else um and. so you know my dad has frequent examples. of Catholics he had spoken to who he. definitely knew had personal. relationships with Jesus but generally. speaking the Catholic church was. perceived of as nominal like nominalism. where people just went they didn't. really understand where they went um and. filled with Superstition was the two.

phrases that kind of stuck out Henry VII. may have had something to do with that. well for. the the corruption of the Catholic. church in England was started with him. for sure um but it the persecution. actually really I should say but. basically you know smells and bells um. was a phrase that frequently stuck. around in my head from when I was. growing up because that was how the. Catholic church was. perceived but for me in in part there. was kind of a numbers component to it.

and this is just something which I think. is how my brain works but I didn't. really understand how we could be saying. that before. 1517 we just had this big kind of black. hole of Christianity from the time of. the Apostles until Luther prop crops up. and so for me that was like okay well. what's going on like there must be some. living faith in this 1500 year window. even if you want to call it like a 1200. year 1300 year window because for the. first 200 years you had the kind of.

apostolic age so you know what's going. on in that period and for me that was. like a well we're not just going to. write off this entire period of history. and I'm also I do like to challenge. ideas and Concepts and just figure out. what's going on and for me I was like. okay well you've got doctors of the. church you've got some of the greatest. Minds ever like Thomas aquinus ever in. human history who occupy this period. as well as countless popes who whose.

writings have been imbibed and kind of. consumed by Western Civilization sins so. what's happening with these guys like. are they Christians are they not. Christians and so that was really kind. of where it began for me that was the. early church the first 700 years was. what I then went on to study but that. was kind of really where I began my. inquiry was like this doesn't make any. sense I just don't believe that there. are no Christians here. um so let's figure out what's going on.

and so that was kind of where I started. and I had this great uh priest at school. who was actually an Anglican priest but. he ended up becoming a Catholic as well. but he was very good at rebutting many. of the preconceived ideas that I had. about Catholicism and so he started to. really kind of challenge me on a lot of. my positions um and that was kind of. Where it All Began okay and was there a. singular moment that you can recall in. your mind when you went this is it I'm. going to I'm actually going to convert.

to the Catholic. faith H I wouldn't say not really no I. mean there was a moment I remember the. first time that I went into a Catholic. church with. the there were two I guess there were. two moments probably there was once. where I was in. a um Dominican Monastery in Croatia. where I very much felt.

that there was a calling you know it was. in some ways it was I know this is a. weird thing to say but it was kind of. the Silence of the place you know I just. felt I'm drawn to silence I think you. know that um but I I I I like the. silence I like the reflection time it's. like the early church fathers who were. the desert. fathers have always had an appeal to me. because they they wanted to lead this. contemp of Life studying the Lord like.

in silence and so for me it was. something about The Silence of this. church. which I just found very kind of. inspiring overwhelming in some ways so. that was one that was one moment I think. I was about I must have been about 15 or. 16 at that time and then there was. another moment which was the first time. that I went into a church and that was. in London Westminster Cathedral and I. sat at the back and I prayed a rosary. for the first time in my life and I. didn't really know what I was doing but. I I I just wanted to make that first.

step and then when I did that I and I. play pray before the Blessed Sacrament. which was also a huge kind of for me. that was something which I had really. begun to appreciate like this is this. this is Christ This is not just bread. this is. Christ and it was not an easy thing to. tell your parents in fact you didn't I. didn't that's right yeah most most kids. are like hiding drugs from their parents. you're hiding a rosary from your parents. this was like I was yeah I was very. nervous about about it um and I didn't.

really know I was confirmed and then I. had and then I sort of carried on living. and I it to me it was something that I. didn't want them to kind of know about. start off with and. why because because my parents were big. big time evangelicals really and but. what did you think their reception would. be to that that you were you kind of. wanted to keep the piece so to speak. yeah I did want to keep the pieace you I. guess it was quite cly of me now if I. think about it but it was. I guess I was sort.

of afraid of one of those kind of. medieval reactions of being like get out. of my house and crying and you know I. don't know I I I don't know to be honest. what I thought the reaction would be at. the time I probably I probably thought. it was something going to be something. like that kind of quite dramatic and and. arguments and explosions and all that. kind of stuff but um how did they find. out or how did you tell them I actually. don't know how they found out they they. found out but they never but then they. confronted me about it and we had a.

conversation but they already knew by. that point so say clearly somebody else. had told them we saw your we saw your. son walking up the steps to mass yeah. exactly so um I think they kind of knew. that it was coming because I kept on. talking about the Catholic church and I. sort of started talking a lot about that. and I was talking more and more and more. about it and I think they kind of. figured something was going on um but. then when it actually happened I didn't. tell them and then they confronted me. about later on so now that you're in.

America and I think a lot of there's a. lot of faith discussion happening now. what would you say your perspective is. because this is something that you and I. discuss there there are these slight. differences it's kind of difficult to. speak. to regarding the way that certain topics. emerge in the UK and certain topics. emerge in America like we are brother. and sister but there are some. differences you know what I mean and one. of the things that I had kind of spoken. to you about was even evangelicalism. faith is so different like when I think. of your parents who are evangelicals.

compared to evangelicals in America it. just feels different you know it just. feels very different so what would you. say are some of the differences that you. can speak to in I guess whether it's. religion Faith or another topic um when. it comes to politics across the pond as. opposed to here on a variety of subjects. abortion Faith yeah I. mean Faith obviously is one that I've. spoken about already I mean abortion is. something which is an interesting one. because again abortion is not really.

discussed in the UK it's kind of a. settled topic um which over here it is. very much not I mean the funny part is. is that the perspective of many Brits to. America and you know I'm sure there'll. be people in the comments who will be. like I'm British and I disagree with you. on this but generally speaking the. perspective of Britain is that America. is kind of a bit crazy you know and and. Europe as a whole Europeans tend to you.

know and I don't agree with this but. this is often the way they tend to look. down their noses quite a bit at American. culture like um Europeans think of. themselves as quite High futin you know. and they're kind of like you know sort. of Americans are crazy. Americans um but of course really what. that actually is a reflection of is the. freedom of the intellectual mind right. and actually the reason that they say. it's crazy is because Americans have. this great inquisitive attitude to. things they don't accept standard Norms.

they are willing to challenge and that. confrontational attitude then reflects. itself in the way that they debate. topics so abortion like take that as an. example Americans are not willing to. just those who are pro-life and even. those who are pro-choice neither side. are just willing to accept the. standardized Norm they are they are. prepared to fight for whatever they. believe and that is the same on other. topics such as vaccines for example. which I know is something that you and I. talked about when we first got married.

you know in Britain the vaccine schedule. is just accepted by everybody and nobody. really talks about it it's you know I. think I I give the illustration that. when we first got married you sort of. asked what I thought about it and I my. answer was kind of like well it's the. same as sort of what I think about. Tuesdays you know like it happens I mean. who cares kind of thing um and over time. you know obviously you and I have talked. extensively about these. and and that's changed my mind about a. lot of things but also it's it's been. very interesting to see how Americans. fight for this particular topic um.

something that will be a tab start as a. taboo will then become a mainstream. discussion in America yeah and that's. just thanks to Americans being willing. to confront it and that is a great. example because I mean I always knew I. was not going to vaccinate my children I. was always adverse to vaccines but um uh. but you led me down the garden but I led. you yes exactly I was like what do you. think you were like oh yeah what do you. think about this and then I was like I. don't really care like what's the what's. the big deal and then and I was like hey. check this out hey check this out and.

then I think you were quite surprised by. a lot of the research that I come upon. but it's so interesting because that was. what five six years ago and now we're. looking at an America where make America. healthy again is mainstreamed RFK Jr is. speaking about vaccines he was really. the only resource that I had when I kind. of began my journey and I can host a a. successful podcast talking about. vaccines and so it is interesting. because you are correct people do and. sometimes rightfully stick down their. noses to American culture CU there are.

some aspects that we contribute I mean. we gave the world the Kardashians right. we've got we've got to you know sort of. there there's definitely a downside to. American culture but you're correct in. that the upside is that when we. establish these Norms they're not. necessarily established we will we're. willing to then say wait a second what. are we doing why are we doing this let's. revisit this and we're willing to have. the confrontation like in a way we're. still the colonists. yeah you're still willing to fight and.

be aggressive which is and and that's. but you know the worst thing is apathy I. mean that's kind of the whole point. right it's like that's how Europe feels. it feels apathetic and lethargic and. stagnant and it's like you you come over. here and people are willing to fight. they're willing to stand up for what. they believe in you know whether it's. the second amendment through to the rate. of tax through to the Department of. government efficiency because they want. to cut federal waste or vaccines or. immigration or whatever it might be.

people are willing to just fight for. what they believe in which is so. refreshing and that is that is the. greatest difference between Europe and. between the UK because as I said in the. UK there is this kind of it it's just a. it's like a malaise it's a malaise of. the mind you know it's a malaise where. people go ah you know life is kind of. okay and you know we're fine and we're. just plotting along and all this kind of. stuff and it's it's an unwillingness to. better oneself or to improve the world.

in a better position and that's a. terrifying place because then you just. become subject to all kinds of tyranny. yeah absolutely and I think it's. probably quite challenging because I. always think of the other side like I my. brain sort of naturally goes okay if. it's being presented to me as the. mainstream acceptable position I want to. see what the unacceptable position is. and see where I land on various topics. and unfortunately for you because I have. this huge platform and I say what I. think people assume that it must mean.

that that's exactly what you think but. I'm kind of thinking out loud most of. the time I'm going okay this is a new. topic I'm not sure I think about it and. that must have an impact on your life. because people just assume that we agree. on everything and we don't agree on. everything we don't agree on everything. so what. are we yeah of course we don't of course. we don't and I think that's something. people are very interested in is how do. we navigate that because I don't really.

think we think about how to navigate. that but it is a big thing that my my. positions kind of become the family. position on things because people just. assume that this must be what you. think yeah I. mean I think my answer to that when. people have confronted me about this. personally is always like well do you. agree with everything your wife says or. do you agree with everything your. husband says I mean it would be weird if. everyone thought with a hive mind. because it would just become the def. facto.

like that that's weird that that that. implies that you. share a an absolute belief in everything. right which is very odd um and I've. never met anyone who has had that so I. think that what we agree. on because the individual topics. themselves are highly nuanced and quite. difficult to always reach conclusions on. but I think what we agree on is the. process and I think that that actually. is more important than most the end. result because the process that we that.

you and I have is one of a dialectic and. it's one of a discussion a process where. we challenge each other on what we. perceive to be well there is truth we. know that there is truth we know that. Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that. is truth and he is a. transcendental um truth is a. transcendental but the point being is. that beyond that truth how does that. truth reflect itself in the world that. we live in that then becomes the process. the hermeneutic if you want to call it. that through which we then try and.

establish other truth and we don't. always reach the same conclusions now. there are certain areas where like it. would be very weird if we didn't like we. both obviously agree that you know. abortion is wrong and we both agree that. the transgender Lobby is far too. powerful and you know is is seeking. malevolent aims and all these kind of. things there are plenty of areas where. we obviously do reach the same. conclusion but there are other areas we. don't and that's fine and and also it's. a process which like I've changed my.

opinions about lots of things over the. past few years I became a Catholic. exactly yeah it is it is a willingness. to migrate our positions and to realize. that we were wrong I think that is. unique but I I don't appreciate until. people ask me about it how fortunate we. are to be in a relationship where we. don't argue about people just assume. like oh my gosh you must be arguing all. the time about all of these things and. it's like no I think we're both too. interested. and in the same way that I definitively.

thought I had all of the traditional uh. Mainline perspectives about the Catholic. faith worship Mary blah blah blah but I. was too interested to just shut that. down when I saw the way that it was. moving in your life because you became. increasingly more Pious after we got. married which is really interesting and. we should we should speak about that a. bit but you did I mean you were you are. not you are not the same person that I. married and I say that as a tremendous. compliment even though I thought you. were perfect the day that we got married. I now look back and I'm like wow to see.

how much faith has moved you what I say. to people I was so interested I'm too. interested to just go okay well he's. just dabbling in a heresy you know what. I mean or you know he's just worshiping. Mary and I think Society has grown so. accustomed to being dismissive whether. you want to say well this person are. conservative therefore they're racist. you know this person doesn't want to. vote for commo therefore they're a. sexist you know this person has this. perspective therefore they anti-semitic. whatever the name is of transphobe of.

the day I'm too curious I'm too curious. when I see something people moving in a. certain direction I want I want to. follow them even if I find out that I. don't agree I want to see where they're. going and I think that is kind of what. makes us such a unique partnership is. that we're genuinely. curious going back to that movement in. your life so you were a Catholic when we. got married you were not an active. Catholic when we got married and now I. would say you are an overactive Catholic.

you are about as Catholic as it comes uh. you attend the mass I'm multiple times a. week uh morning Mass you go to. confession every. week what was it in your life that. pulled you in that direction cuz I don't. even I still don't really comprehend. it you had it was because you had to. pray for me. yeah I was just overwhelmed with the. inbound traffic that we had I was just. like Lord please help me deal with this.

crazy woman that I married to um no I'm. joking of course it was look I I CS. Lewis writes that how absurd it is to. think that the lost sheep can find the. shepherd you know and um the shepherd. has to come and find the lost sheep. that's not to say that I was fully lost. I think I had probably emerged from my. lost years I did have lost years in my. 20s there was no doubt about it where I. had no faith life so to speak I mean I.

maintained a a comatosed heartbeat. relationship with with Christ um in as. much as I infrequently attended church I. prayed infrequently I talked about God I. would have said that I was a Christian. but I was like very weak in my faith um. and you know really for. me I think there were there was I mean. there were so many things which kind of. pulled me in that direction when we got. married and I started I mean I think.

that the whole process of how we met and. how we got married and all that kind of. stuff was it was a miracle like I I I. said that to you many times in those. first six months I was like this is a. miracle there is just a there is too. much. providential alignment here for me to. unpack this all I was kind of. overwhelmed with it at the time it was. something which I just thought. was beyond my comprehension like I I.

could there were so many things I mean. even now when I think about it I mean. now the kind of mystery has faded so the. surprise is less than it was at the time. but there were things like going back. into decades ago where I could suddenly. see having met you that this had been. the steps that God had put me on to get. to this place in my life you know even. the fact that like you know I mean I had. a US Visa and like all this kind I mean.

it was just it was it was crazy you know. at the time like what what I unpacked in. that in that uh in those six months and. just sort of how I thought about the. world after that um that was definitely. something where I felt the presence of. God um and then there. was a recognition I guess. that the political debates we were. in I mean there were many things but the. political debates we were in required.

truth you know and that is something. where I still to this. day I I think that if you're a. conservative and or you call yourself a. conservative and that's even that word. is kind of just a bit meaningless in. some ways. but if you want to call yourself a. conservative on the American right you. have to say well what are we seeking to. conserve and you have to say what is.

fundamentally at the heart of everything. that we believe in America or even in. the West in the world what is what is. the truth that we are aiming for and. particularly when you get to these kind. of radical fringes of politics where. you're talking. about you know the ability of men and. women to change their genders or even. the LGBT Lobby or whatever it might be. like whatever ever it is whatever these. topics are you start to realize that.

truth itself is breaking down into like. nothing it's just being destroyed truth. is being slowly chipped away out until. the kernel of Truth is so small that. it's so difficult for people to find in. those debates so you have to start okay. well where's the starting point like. what what do we go back to what is the. very heartbeat of truth and the. heartbeat of Truth has to be absolute it. has to be an objective reality and the. objective reality for truth is Christ.

and for me I started realizing that the. more and more I more I talked. about politics or the more we were. involved in politics or the more I saw. witnessed Politics the more I realized. that truth was absence like truth was. absent from those debates and so for me. I was like okay well we I need to. discover what truth is again and I need. to reform a relation ship with that. 15-year-old boy inside of me who was.

really fascinated by Theology and for me. that was kind of I was like okay this is. the big missing part of my life like. this is where I I don't really have a. relationship with God like I used to. when I was a teenager and in my very. early 20s so that was what drew me back. I was like I need to discover what truth. is again and then that was the kind of. the first stepping stone and then it. became very apparent to me that. re-engagement with my faith was. something which I needed to do in a very. serious way I'm just going to uh kick it.

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being born of my IM mortality I suddenly. became very aware of like I'm going to. die um and in a nonmorbid way I think. about death a lot and that is because I. think our world has lost the perception. of death we do everything to try and. avoid talking about death we we don't. want to cover the topic and death is. perceived of as this great like we. mustn't talk about death like we must.

avoid death and even everything we do is. kind of like in the constant culture of. trying to extend life like plastic. surgery it's trying to make yourself. look beautiful because you are denying. the aging process you know and even now. when we want when we when we're trying. to when we are inevitably going to die. we must be in control of that process. through euth an Asia like the UK has. just vered through this assisted dying. bill which is a complete. Abomination um but this is how we are.

now perceiving death we like have to. control this process and so natural. death is spe is is totally pushed to one. side but when I became a father I. suddenly realized that I was like okay. I'm going to die and that's just going. to happen and I need to sort out my. relationship with God and I need to be. aligned with him and not just be aligned. with him but I need to. promote Christ in this world and I need. to promote Christ to my children and I. want them to be raised in the faith so I.

want them to have the best relationship. with God because that's the Ultimate. gift that I can give them more so than. money more so than anything else like. you know stability is good of course it. should be sought but there are plenty of. children who don't grow up in stable. homes who I would still wish the same. for them that they know the truth of. Jesus Christ right I would think when. you have an active at least it's been. the case for me like when you have an. active spiritual life I now kind of. observe my past political perspectives. as quite adolescent in a way yeah like I.

look at me going around college campuses. and speaking about these issues having. removed Christ from the conversation or. if I'm you know saying Christ on stage. it's not it's not with the not with the. the fullness of truth I guess is the. best way to say it it's more kind of. like a political talking point and truly. believing at that time that I had landed. on truth and I'm like the lowercase. truth of well the left the left left. hates family you know oh the left hates.

um social cohesion oh the left loves you. know racism because of this or that oh. the left feminism this and then when you. really arrive at the full picture you're. going this is not a war against Trump. this is not a war against conservatives. it's always been a war against Christ. nothing has changed and to come to that. understanding it's been so refreshing. and calming in a way where I don't crave. politics I talk about this with you. often I don't crave politics in the way. that I used to Crave it and I think for.

a lot of people politics does become a. drug they're addicted to the high life. of politics like being in the room. meeting people and then you get into. these rooms and people are drunks and. addicts and people are sleeping with. each other and that's such a let down. it's such a let down because you want to. believe that you're really fighting for. a sense of morality but it's only a let. down I think if you don't have a. spiritual life and you don't have. perspective uh a clarifying perspective. that you know in the end Christ wins I.

think that's that's really been. something that has changed in me since. you've sort of you know changed my world. in terms of spiritualism I mean I. think I mean I think I I would just to. build on that Christ has won you know. it's not that he wins in he's already. won and and and what that means is is. but the Bible is very clear about this. and actually the church has taught the. same thing for ages which is that this.

world the devil is called the prince of. this world it's his domain right in many. ways the world is his domain and so in. many ways the armies of Christ are. actually we are the aliens here and the. Bible is kind of very clear about this. we are the aliens in this world because. we are the people who are living a. totally different life to the majority. of the world like Christianity has. always been religious on the outside yes. it became it had its great kind of.

medieval Heyday where it became the. dominant uh you know temporal Force if. you want to call it that but of course. what happened during that time like the. church was infected with secularism as. well like you know there was much there. was corruption in it and there was you. know the seeking of power and you know. there were many there were many problems. with it but you know really Christians. live as Outsiders in this world like our. home is not this world our home is the. world to come and so you know when you. look at it from that perspective you. just say okay well what's really going.

on like the devil is fighting with. everything that he has to destroy all. good things in this world that is what. he is seeking to do at all times and he. never takes a day off you know it's like. you never get a day off you are always. vulnerable you know there's always this. constant awareness like if I've learned. one thing of being a Christian it's that. prayer Is Like Oxygen it is as needed on.

a daily basis as it is. needed you know Like Oxygen or food you. know you need it every day because the. devil certainly doesn't care whether. it's Tuesday and you're having the best. day of your life or whether it's you. know the day your father dies it doesn't. make a difference it it's the same. battle he will be there always seeking. to destroy you and so that for me is. just something where I'm like politics.

forget it I mean like politics is it is. tertiary I mean Andrew. Breitbart famously said that you know. politics is Downstream of culture and I. would add that culture is Downstream of. Faith because at the heart. of whether it's conflict global conflict. societal. change the rise and fall of. ideologies and this Segways back into. what we talked about at the beginning. the the understanding of Faith the. understanding of theology like why was I.

interested in this because at the heart. of everything is Faith and it's. something which is like very. misunderstood because the whole of our. the whole of our economic system is. built off rationality it's built off. humans making rational choices at all. times right that's kind of our entire. economic model is based off rational. choices but humans make what would be. perceived of in economic terms as. irrational choices the whole time like. it it's not good necessarily You could. argue that it was but there's a there's.

a strong economic argument to say it's. not good to give money away right why. would you do that you've earned all this. value you should acre it to yourself but. Christianity. teaches. and proposes that you should do that. right and actually that you should turn. outwards and not just look. inwards um and actually of course when. you start doing that the rewards do flow. because then you will become blessed. beyond your beyond measure you know it's. like the you give things away the Lord. gives more to you second to the Bible.

what is your favorite. book that's a hard one it is all right. give me three blackout by Candace s that. was the right answer my love we. go well done you thank you I was being. tested um you know that's I know one of. them well I guess this if I was to say. no one of them one that has had served. the most impact in your life I would. say will you always tell me I I hope.

okay I was going to say un R okay yeah. so but it's funny because that. book that book was very transformative. in my early 20s um and when I was a. young man it was huge to me you know. when I read out I Shrugged I was I was. so overwhelmed by the diagnosis that it. provided on our society and but a ran. and you know she is a very complicated. character she's not somebody that now I.

would say I am like I'd want to be. affiliated with because she's vehemently. anti-faith she's vly anti- the church. she perceives of the church as. Superstition but are you able to. separate the author from their work well. the work itself is a very deep question. by the way philosophically speaking. people ask us about movies can you. separate the artist from their work yeah. the work itself there are there. there are shadows within the work itself.

which I would still want to say are. relevant like from an economic. perspective I think that out the shrug. provides a very apt synopsis of much of. what the Western world is going through. it is going through a period of like. internal cannibalization right we are. cannibalizing ourselves from the inside. we don't we are not faced currently in. America or the West okay you could say. like we have you know proxy global. conflicts going on but part those to one. side we don't suffer currently a.

external threat militarily or. ideologically which is going to crush us. right um it's not like communism and of. course what an ran was writing and I've. read and I've read pretty much every. book every an ran wrote but you know she. she wrote extensively about communism. and that was the threat at the time and. so economically I agree with a lot of. her analysis like she is right on the. money econom i al there's no doubt about. it but the sad part about what she does.

is that she also throws into the same. diagnosis religion and so if you read. out a Shrugged you will even though she. doesn't and I'm sure there'll be someone. who'll fact check me on this and say. well on page 572 she does but you know. she I don't recall within the book she. doesn't actually name the church or name. Religion sheain she calls it. Superstition right because her princip. her principal motivation is the eye. right and that is she's talking about.

the ey and how I should come first she. basically promotes the theory of selfish. like selfish motivation and and and from. an economic perspective the West has. fallen so far from that where we're. leeching from people we take from people. who create things we destroy wealth we. are intent on making misery right our. governments are determined on taxing and. suppressing the creation of wealth um. and from that perspective I would agree.

with her but I would not say that like I. would not align myself with I would. definitely not at the age of 34 align. myself now with where I believed that I. was when I was like 22 right I read the. book in three weeks it was so I stand. corrected then what would you say now is. your maybe not favorite book most. transformative book if you were saying. these are the books that you should. definitely read put on your list our. books are so different by the way it's. so funny if we. both Supply our list they'd be like what.

is going on in this household gosh. that's a really good question. [Music]. um o I would probably have to think. about that I mean well you do read I do. in the morning you read three books and. obviously this is again attributing to. your spiritual life but obviously the. Bible you read quotations from CS Lewis. maybe there's a CS Lewis book in there. that you might recommend just giving you. ideas here and then you read which pope.

Pas no Pope Benedict the 16th Benedict. the 16th I read a daily reader from. those two yeah those two guys um those. two guys the pub and C um I do read a. daily reader from those from those two. because they are Treasures of wisdom um. now do they have a specific book like CS. Lis M Christianity obviously which has. seemed to undergo quite a popular. resurgence um Russell Brand for example. our cupid in our story um he he um he.

did a book club on it recently uh which. I thought was you know very really love. the idea of Russell Brand is. Cupid um but then on top of that I would. say like there are really interesting. books that I've read in um the last few. years which I I find to be very. interesting on like totally different. topics I mean I would say the rise and. Triumph of the modern self which um was.

written by a professor called Carl. Truman I think which I read last year. was a really really interesting analysis. on um how we have ended up it's. basically this it's basically the. politics of sexuality and it's re a. fascinating book in it was a fascinating. book just to because to the untrained. mind you get here and you get to 2024. and you're like what on Earth went wrong.

like where did we go wrong what has. happened like how have we ended up just. talking about this and what he does a. really amazing job of and it probably. was the most it was just the most. interesting book that I've read in the. last five years probably but it was well. maybe not the last five years but. definitely last couple of years it's. it's it it weaves the thread of how we. started talking about you know the. Romantic literature poet. and how we ended up at transgender and. it's basically saying that you know you.

have this kind of like fine thread which. has been woven all the way through. countless like generations and centuries. where the politics of sexuality have. become the all it is like now that is. the biggest thing for people and for. them sexuality is the number one it it. it is the new God right and so how do we. end up in this place he does a great he. does a great job in explaining it I. would also say things. like other interest like another great.

book which I read in the last five years. was the Great American gamble which is a. weirdly kind of academic book. about America's nuclear policy in the. last 70 years and when I say nuclear I. mean like nuclear weapons and it. really demonstrated to. me the and in some ways this goes back. to saying the dangers. of um like conformist thinking because.

really what it it shows you is that. America put itself at a position of. unbelievable weakness by doing what it. did in the which was which was kind of. saying we will have this great policy of. mutually assured destruction and. mutually assured destruction was a. complete nonsense and actually that it. just changed the way I thought about. geopolitics it changed the way I thought. about defense it changed the way I think. about America's role in the world and so.

that was another fascinating book like. you know there are so many I mean you. know you can name so many thiddies is a. great read too if you into ancient. history I mean there are so many great. books which I've read in the last few. years which I would really recommend but. those are just two which stand out yeah. I would say International liberalism. expansion that's been a bit of a mess. geopolitically speaking I don't I don't. understand why we we think it's our job. to spread democracy and we're never. actually spreading democracy I think. when we say spread democracy it's like. code word for dropping bombs but I won't.

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want to know what that was like what. this year has been like as somebody who. actually had a front row seat to. everything I you know the public always. thinks they have a front row seat to. everything it's always either 10 times. better or worse behind the scenes go. with worse um and obviously it was a a. tremendous shock our life shifted you. were just the most brilliant person in. the entire world having having to figure. out an entire pod business in the span. of what was it 6 weeks where we're back. up and running and advertisement bus.

business I always say like I'm just the. person who talks on the internet I it's. like I talk to my friends on the phone. and then you have to go figure out. everything else and so just sitting from. your seat throughout that. entire process change whatever it is you. want to call it uh what what did you. think about it what was that like going. through it well I correct you there. you're the most amazing person no you. you are we can do this we could do this. I have I am stubborn yes I know you are. um no but it's a team effort it's a team.

effort that's what that's what it always. is it's always a team effort but but um. yeah look it's been it was it was the. most challenging year we've ever had for. sure in so many ways and we both know. that. um I would. say that there was a a big component to. just saying to the Lord like like help. you know help just kind of help how do.

we do this like how do we do everything. you know whether it be from you know. lawsuits to the new business. to um you know raising. children uh son starting school like you. know setting up a studio I mean just. everything that we've done this year and. there's been a lot and I haven't even. mentioned half the things in that you. know little synopsis there but it's been. really tough. and I would say that it's been it's been. good to do it because you know fire does.

strengthen like it does strengthen and I. would think I think that our marriage. has definitely got stronger because of. it you know like I think I said this. when we were at the Catholic identity. conference but like you know your our. Tuesdays are not kind of average. Tuesdays like they're kind of you know. it's not like waffles or cereal it's. kind of like like what are they going to. publish okay we better like do something. about this you know it's like it's a.

it's just different and and that also. means that we do just have this kind of. constant need to be brutally honest with. each other which I I really. enjoy and I think that actually in some. ways I know that you've said this like. you will great grateful for being fired. um you know you said in your. Thanksgiving message that you are. thankful for being fired and I think. like what that did is it for me like the. year of change has been in some ways.

like ripping. off it's it's exposed like the rawness. you know I feel like this year has been. very raw it's been like very brutal to. just be like okay we're going to get. this done and we're going to get this. done and we got to get this done and we. just got to do it and we just got to. buckle up and it's going to be painful. and it's going to be grim and we just. got to get it done and we've got three. kids and you know it's like how where's. the money and like d it's just it's been. a lot but in some ways that's it's built.

a much better relationship that we now. have not that our relationship before. was I would say our relationship before. was was like as good as it gets but now. it's kind of like you know really battle. tested yeah battle tested yeah and then. just it's been tough but yeah and I it's. one of the things that really surprised. me is how well we handled it you know. I I I I'm even surprised by it I'm. surprised. by how calm you dealt with everything.

how you just sort of figured it all out. and how it didn't while it was this. massive earthquake in our lives. everywhere around us most people can. just leave their job uh doesn't become a. trending a global story you know what I. mean and it was every person in the. entire world having an opinion about you. leaving your job is not a normal thing. to go through and yet I would say our. home was was really the eye of the storm. because there is something about. adrenaline that does Focus you I think.

that was that really is the story of. this year is it was the focus that. adrenaline can breed where you're when. you have to survive when your back is. against the wall you just figure it out. because you have no other option and I. would have said we had an amazing. marriage before but we had not been. battle tested and I feel so confident. now in a way that I that's why I say it. really was a blessing to have been given. this challenge you know God is even. blessing you in times of tremendous. challenge to have come out the other.

side so unscathed and just stronger in. our partnership and really I attribute. the success of the show and everything. that's happened to you everybody knows. that who works here I'm just a cute face. on the internet um uh speaking about. things that I'm interested in taking. people through my 26 personalities that. you have to deal with every single day. uh but it has been amazing and so I. first and foremost just want to thank. you for this year also want I know you. hate compliments very English of him you. cannot thank him you cannot tell him he. looks nice you can't tell him how.

amazing he is but he was the rock. through this year uh so much more so. than me and just he just gave me the. confidence to just go ahead and be. myself essentially and I think that's. the biggest thing you can ask for in a. marriage I'm I'm just going to keep. complimenting you until you melt into. the chair as an Englishman. does okay to close this some fun some on. a topic that is very fun okay online. conspiracies they are my favorite okay. they're amazing people come up with such. amazing things do you know that by the. way chat gbt once gave somebody the.

answer and then they tagged me as they. were. like what ancestry is George and it said. George farmer was a Jew like that your. family was Jewish that your father's. father was Jewish which is crazy and. then I but the internet is a strange. place if it's on the internet then. suddenly people believe it it's true so. I've got some favorite conspiracies okay. one that your father is a Roth's child. that I'm a Roth's child it's amazing or. I'm married into the Roth child family. um that's a good one roll with that I. just would like the money if that is. true I just wanted I want the money.

Uncle Jacob R. child where did they go with this stuff. somebody creates a chart and the next. thing you know they're like okay somehow. Candace is married into the Ross child. family I I honestly guys if that was. true you would be the first to know uh. the second one now this is a new. favorite one that we deal with that my. in-laws hate me like Christmas Christmas. must be very tricky around the T people. yeah I know that's that's a big one I. mean they're all great are great keep. I'm like actually our family we just get.

along really well and that has been. something that has been unique and also. been a blessing is how different I mean. especially I think when I first met your. parents I was freaking out because we. come from such different walks of life. and I really am from like the wrong side. of the tracks but they were just so. gracious and I think that speaks to. obviously the fact that they are. Christian and your dad dedicates so much. of his life uh he leads his Life as a. Christian so much of his work is driven. by his faith and what he does which is. really funny because people have turned.

this into a conspiracy theory he's in. the House of Lords like and I'm like. have you read what he does in the House. of Lords all he does is work on family. policy he leads with his faith he's just. such a wonderful person I get very. defensive when people try to create. conspiracy theory there I'm like go look. at what he actually writes and what he. does and what he dedicates his life to. and they were so gracious and so. accepting of us and of me more than. anything like as someone who they did.

not know at all so I should just say for. the record that first of all in the. answer the first one I have no known. relations who are Roth as far as I'm. aware like I don't know that but if we. are aware Che but if I find one I will. let people know thank you number two is. that the House of Lords is not like kind. of I don't know what people think it is. I mean it is an American thing where. they're like the House of Lords I think. people still think that England is an. absolute say I think they think. K is in charge and I'm like do people. know that we had a civil war where we. they don't know how UK government works.

all yeah they they're like what is this. like we we had a civil war we chopped. the head of a king like Charles the. first he lost his head we had a republic. we had a commonwealth for like 12 years. where the Puritans were in charge and. then we restored the monarchy but a. constitutional monarchy so the King has. no power and the House of Lords is a. second chamber much like the Senate but. with much much much less power like. basically no power I mean that's you. know some Lord being like I have power. um but they don't really have very much.

power and and certainly my parents to. the best of my knowledge I spoke to my. parents today but as far as I'm aware. they don't hate you they've never told. me that they hate you so that's new any. indication it's news to me that's that's. that's a recent favorite one and then. the the newest one that has emerged is. definitely my favorite that Andrew Tate. has blackmail on you it's just like. where do the top G. like this is why I'm like what is. anybody ever talking about I can count I.

literally think on five fingers how many. times I've even met Andrew Tate two of. them were the times I was interviewing. him once at the Trump Hotel I think it's. four I think the total number is four. yeah it's crazy and so they think that. they've developed this whole thing where. like he's known you your whole life and. he knows where all the bodies are buried. I'm like people on the internet are mad. but I love a good conspiracy theory so I. love to read that about. especially like he hasn't told me if he. has also if you are watching and you.

have a blackmail file on us please let. us know okay don't let rendos on the. internet know about that um but it is. one of the the things that I think has. made our relationship so strong as our. ability to laugh at it because you could. not survive this life if you did not. have a sense of humor people coming up. every day with a new Theory uh. constantly lying but somehow if you put. it on the internet it must be true uh so. in closing again just want to thank you. for this tremendous year I know my. listeners have been trying to have me. get you on for a very long time and they. know that you are much more brilliant.

than me much more well read than me much. more handsome than I. am none of these are true you know uh. couldn't do life without you that's what. I would say in clothing you know just. still love you more today than the day. that we got married that's the same for. me too good you have to say that yeah. you pay me to say we'll see you in the. next in the next six years six years. later. [Music].