Lori Frantzve’s Gun Deal? Terryl’s Footage Faux Pas. | Candace Ep 328

All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. I'm. happy this Tuesday because Blake enough. Blake enough is back in the fray my. arch-nemesis also my best friend super. fan of the show by the way. We. definitely have to send him some kid. I. was asking the producers what should we. send him? We should maybe send him some. some maca hats make America Christian. again. I don't know where we got to get. a package over to Blake because he had. things to say again on X. He's always. having a little mini spiral about our. show. We're going to get into it and I.

will debunk him. He called me a liar. That is bold choice of words bold. accusation coming from anyone at Turning. Point USA. But first I got to tell you guys about. this YouTuber. You've heard about her. before on this show. She made a rather. shocking discovery regarding the footage. that Terrell took down mysteriously. And. lastly, we received a stunning tip about. Erica Kirk's mother the Lori. The Lori and gun sales. Is everybody in the industry? What.

industry is that that everybody is in? That's what I want to know. Everyone but. me apparently. Welcome back to Candace. >> [music]. >> So I say this often but it I should. always repeat it. There are a lot of. people who have contributed to this. crowdsourced investigation into Charlie.

Kirk's death. YouTubers who do not get. nearly enough credit for their amazing. discoveries. One such YouTuber is Nicci. Okay, Nicci is the one that brought us. if you recall the investigation into the. strange text messages that Erica shared. with a then 15-year-old Jillian. We then. picked up on her investigation and added. to it. That's how the crowdsourcing. works and we were recently inundated. with emails to our tips box about. another discovery that Nicci has made. this time pertaining to the camera.

behind Charlie's head. We revealed that. footage. A never before-seen footage the. one that Terrell raced the footage that. he raced to take down just minutes after. Charlie was struck. Literally I I think. we estimated about 4 minutes after. Charlie was struck. After he recorded himself. Amazing still. we should never forget that none of the. Turning Point employees called 911. Not Mikey, not Blake, not Terrell. That.

was not their instinct. Terrell was. perhaps the worst almost worse than. Mikey walking away would be Terrell. recording himself in a selfie video. Anyway, Nicci discovered that the camera. footage which was shown to me on. FaceTime was likely edited. And she. supply she supplied some very compelling. evidence for this. So I want you to take a listen to what. she shared. In this footage that Terrell has. selectively shared with Candace, we.

can't see the ground where Charlie had. been sitting. You're probably thinking, "Okay, so what?" Well, I'll tell you. what. Actually, I'll show [snorts] you. what. On February 28th, 2025, the. American Comeback Tour did a stop at. Florida State University and here is the. back camera shot. On March 3rd, 2025, the American Comeback Tour did a stop at. the University of Southern California. and here is the back camera shot. Here's. San Francisco, here's San Diego, Long.

Beach, Boise, Idaho, Washington State. Do you notice a pattern? The camera. is a wide-angle camera and was always. used as such. However, in the footage that Terrell has. selectively shared with Candace, you. cannot see the ground. So either that. day at UVU, they had changed things up. and they had zoomed in the camera so. that you couldn't see the area around. Charlie. or Terrell had zoomed in after the fact.

and he was showing a cropped version of. the footage to Candace. Either way, it. gives the impression that they're hiding. something. Nicci Nicci Nicci, gosh, I'm just I'm so. happy that you brought that forth. Honestly, common sense. There were so. many things that I was saying around how. bizarre that footage was but I should. have looked at it and said, "What is. this shot actually? Where is this shot. going to?" And you know what, Nicci?

I was actually remarking to my team that. it certainly seemed to me that Terrell. may have at the very least edited the. video and the reason why is because. well, first and foremost it took him 2. days to get back to me after our initial. conversation. So just to to remind. everybody, I phoned him on September the. 17th because the footage started going. viral of him taking down the camera. I. recognized him. I didn't think anything. of it. I was like, "Oh, maybe maybe. there's a reason." Common sense reason. in my head would might have been like,

"Oh, maybe the cops asked him to." The. feds were on the scene a little too. quickly that day actually. And then he. got all weird. He was hesitant coming up. with all sorts of excuses. why he couldn't show me the footage. He. didn't want to put the footage out. there. He wanted to protect the footage. He wanted to protect Erica. By the way, in retrospect even that's weird. Like. why right away are you speaking to Erica. about the back footage? Like why does. she care? Like there's so much so many. more important things. Why do you care? Especially since she said she never. watched any footage.

Parking that aside, that conversation I. had with him is on the 17th and I was. like, "You're being weird. You're being. weird. You're being weird." And then on. the 19th, he sort of broke and said, "Okay, no, let's just get on the call. I'm happy to show you the footage." So I. I think in those 2 days he had figured. out a way to show me the footage which. he thought would sort of assuage my. suspicion. And I can add to your investigation. Nicci by showing you the beginning of. our FaceTime conversation which I had.

initially cut because. it was he wasn't showing me the footage. but it was me and him speaking and I did. see him open the file on his computer. desktop. So let's take a look at that. early footage of the beginning of our. conversation. And so you can see obviously this is. FaceTime. You can see that he is opening. up the file and. this is how. it begins. Now I'm going to freeze frame. that for you again because there are. people who know more about cameras and.

whether you're hooking things up. This. is what that looks like there. We had. wondered ourself. There it it seems to. be a Sony camera and Sony camera. certainly does have if you put in the SD. card into your computer, it will open. it's obviously your drive will appear on. your desktop and then you will see. they automatically label a folder clip. Okay, that's just our basic research. Feel free to dispute me guys who know.

much more about cameras and. but it is my suspicion the thing that's. kind of now. making me go, "What the heck?" It is my. suspicion. that that YOLO drive that you're seeing. on the left-hand side is likely what he. named his SD card. And what is wrong. with that? And I'll tell you why that is. my suspicion. What is wrong with that. is. Terrell shouldn't have the SD card. The thing that you have me thinking. I'm.

going back now and revisiting again. I. told you I suffered effectively a brain. trauma. that I couldn't come back from having. watched Charlie die and then trying to. process why I was suddenly fighting. people that I thought were his friends. in the media and things that were being. said about me. Now I'm thinking how strange it is that. Terrell didn't just say to me, "I don't. have the footage.". Because the feds were on the ground and. of course they should have they. confiscated it. Like I took the SD card. out. because it had to be given to the feds. Terrell and I are speaking on the 17th.

and on the 19th and at no point in our. conversations does he say to me, "I. don't have the footage or I don't have. the SD card." I'm specifically asking. him why he removed the SD card. That was. the nature of our discussion. Why did. you remove the SD card. from the camera? Why did you take the camera down? And. his answer. was because he wanted to protect Erica. He didn't want Erica to see the footage. He had a conversation with Erica. He.

didn't want her to see Charlie dying. again. Then he says when I say, "Okay, well, can I see it?" He doesn't say, "Oh, no, I obviously had to then give it. to the feds." At no point did he say to. me that he gave the SD card to the feds. That suddenly feels very relevant. That's insane. That is totally insane. So now we have a situation where. Charlie's phone we've learned was not. given to the feds. That should have been kept by the feds. That should have been secured by the. feds. That should have been like Tyler.

Robinson's phone or Lance Twig's phone. secured by the feds. And now we know that they also again on. the basis of my conversation with him. and what I believe that we are looking. at there that Terrell was able to take. that footage back to Arizona. He's opening that on his desktop in. Arizona back in Scottsdale. That doesn't. make sense to me and it is problematic. What we know happens thereafter because. we were playing devil's advocate me and. my producers. and Ashley had suggested, "Well, well,

maybe that's the reason. Maybe the feds. didn't know that Terrell had it. Maybe. they found out on your show that Terrell. had the footage and that's why they. started putting pressure on um. Justin Streiff to call your husband and. see if you had recorded the footage. Maybe it was the first time they were. aware of it." And I said, "Well, no. That can't be the circumstance. They. couldn't have found out on my show. because the entire reason we were. covering it and why I was reaching out. to Terrell was because it was viral. People saw him taking down the footage. and suddenly it was viral. Don't you.

think they would have noticed all of the. cameras right away? They would have. known we're missing back footage. There. was a camera right there. First thing a. police officer does, is that a camera? Yeah. Can I get the footage to that. camera, that camera, this camera? Why did the Feds not take the footage. from behind? Uh. Charlie said. Why did Why did Terrell. have it at all? So yes, Niecy, I I agree with you um. that it is very likely that he zoomed in. on that footage and I believe the reason.

he did that was to obscure our view of. the ground and the question we have to. ask ourselves now is why. What was on. the ground or what happened on the. ground within that view? What did that. camera capture specifically that is. worth hiding? It has to be something. that would solve Charlie's murder. That's my position and I'm going to. stick to that. I think that Tyler. Robinson's defense team. if you are watching and I hope you are. cuz we're helping you a lot here, that's the footage that you need to get.

That footage should not be zoomed in. She's correct. Turning Point has that. footage. And it should show you the. entire ground area. Um what happens, what the security card. the security guards do. uh when after after Charlie goes down. And also the app the aftermath, it may. go a very long way in terms of capturing. Charlie's true assassins. Again, that's. my opinion and um. regarding that setup, I actually told.

you guys early on that I had tabled with. Charlie for years all across the United. States. Beyond the United States actually. Um. events from the East Coast all down the. East Coast all the way to Hawaii and the. entire setup was strange and new. Charlie. oddly is on a chair that is upon a. platform. that seats him above the table. Why? Why? Why was Charlie on a platform and then. put on top of a chair on top of the.

platform above a table? Look at this. Why? He's under a tent and. then put up onto a platform. We were. never on platforms when we tabled. Charlie was 6'5". He didn't need help. seeing above a table. This is not Ben. Shapiro on tour, okay? It's Charlie. Kirk. He was always here. When and why did they start building. this weird little platform stage for. Charlie? We'll show you again slowing. down the stills from Niecy going back.

Here's a platform still. Um you can see Charlie on this random. platform, two. But again, he's still. below the table, right? Platform. a three, okay? That you can see they're. just building a little mini stage maybe. to level the ground. Still seems strange. to me, but then he's on this platform. Utah, he's just way above the table. Why? Why were they doing this? And even. I think something that is. even stranger is the camera shot behind.

Charlie's head. Why? Who needs it? How is that angle at all necessary in a. Q&A segment? What are you getting from. that angle actually? I'm seriously like. who was like, we need an angle behind. Charlie's head. I told you that was. brand new and it feels a bit to me like. they were intentionally boiling the frog. and now in case you're not from America, you're not familiar with that. expression. Boiling a frog Boiling the. frog is just a metaphor uh for doing. something slowly. Like think of. literally the idea of a a frog um and.

the idea is the frog if you if you just. boil it slowly, it will stay in the pot, right? Until it gets hot. And but if you. put them right away when the pot is. boiling, put the frog into the pot, it'll the frog will jump out. It's just a metaphor though. You. shouldn't try that with frogs at home. It's just a metaphor for how you won't. react to dangerous changes if they. happen slowly over time. So we looked. back and I said, when did they start. putting that camera view? And we. couldn't find a time before late 2024. when Charlie is table in and there's a.

camera directly behind his head. That. appears to have arrived in 2025. Right? I And I want to know if we're. correct. I'd like the internet to figure. out precisely when this weird view. became desirable for Turning Point. events because we noted it just as Niecy. noted it as a part of the American. Comeback Tour. 2025, suddenly they start boiling the. frog. He's got this this weird camera. behind his head. Like like people like. it was in hot demand. Please, we must.

know what's going on behind Charlie's. head. You want to know Charlie's. eyesight, you would put a camera to the. right of him, to the left of him. And uh the we checked the tour before. We said, okay, what was the tour before. the American Comeback Tour in 2024? That. was his brainwashed tour. And here are. some examples of the table in. Look at. this. Uh here is Charlie, March 7th, 2024. There was no camera behind his head. Um. here is Charlie on September 5th, 2024, the brainwashed tour, uh the University. of Wisconsin. We go to the next one,

there is no camera behind his head. And. here is Charlie at Northern Arizona. University on October 15th, 2024. Again, the brainwashed tour. There is no camera. behind his head. Why the change? Why Why were we doing something new in. 2025? Why Why is there so much brand. new? I told you never in the history of. every Turning Point event that I did. from 2017.

all the way through 2024 did we have a. camera behind our head. I want answers. I want answers. That's also seems to. have arrived specifically with the big. sponsorship deal with Wiyre Fy as well. I'll also state that. Um these are. things that should be explored. Great. job, Niecy. Now I want to switch gears here to. travel back to late fall 2016 just. before the election, the big election.

Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is traveling all throughout. the country giving us one-liners about. Hillary Clinton. The media does not. think that she can be beat. I know what. you're thinking right now. You're. thinking, but what were Lori Frantzve and Erica. Kirk doing at that time? Great question. That is exactly the. right question, my friends, and I have. an answer, a very strange answer, okay? So Lori and Erica's stepfather Larry, who we have not done really any research.

on Larry Ginta. I probably should have included that in. my Erica series, but what they were. doing at that time is they were trying. to get in on a gun company. A gun company. Now, I don't know how. this just keeps happening, but these are. the facts, okay? So Lori came into. contact with a couple of guys who had. filed a patent. So they had a patent. pending that was for a unique gun. Think. about the story that we told you with.

Foldiar, first AR that's going to fold. I want this in the backpack um of every. school resource officer. That's Corby. Hall's story. In comes Victor Marx. I'm. interested in this. And And what's the conclusion of that? Victor Marx wants the patent for Israel. Let me remind you, Victor Marx wanted. the patent for Israel. He wanted to push. Corby Hall out and get him a deal. so he would sell the patent to Israel, okay? Similarly, Lori Frantzve and Larry were.

interested in a gun pending patent and. this was going to be a gun that was and. is today the only now patent approved. weapon that features interchangeable. calibers, okay? So you can put different. different rifling in each of the. cylinders. It's essentially a. convertible weapon so to speak for those. of you who are like me and not up on. your weaponry. That is incredibly unique. to be able to do that. They accomplished. that um by extending the cylinder. The.

patent today is actually approved. Anyway, the story goes that Lori, remember I we had showed you that she. had gone to this expo um this exposition. up in Salt Lake City in Utah. And [snorts] this is when she was. hawking her G-Tech G-Tech Industries, her EMP doomsday tech. Showed you this. And I'm going to say allegedly here, but. I am telling you the truth. Allegedly, at this time she and Larry.

um. meet some the guys that have this patent. pending and they offer to introduce. these guys to their angel investor for. G-Tech Industries. So they set up a dinner back in. Scottsdale, Arizona. Again, this is going to be late 2016. At. this dinner you have Lori, you have. Larry Ginta, and the two would-be. company owners. Again, I want to be clear, the gun was. not yet manufactured. So they were there. to discuss only the patent, a potential.

deal for it, um and what they could offer in exchange. for it. The answer being, we have access. to government contracts. Of course they do. Yeah, we know that. Lori was doing deals with the government. for her EMP tech. Were she going to do the deal with the. government for for guns? I don't know. But I'll tell you what my favorite part. of the story is. My favorite part of the. story. is who strolls in unannounced at this.

dinner to sweeten up the potential deal. None other than Erica Frantzve. You. could just see it. Arizona's beauty. queen arrives fashionably late to the. dinner, all dolled up, looking very. glamorous. So the story goes. She's very. familiar with everybody in the. restaurant. She's a little bit of a. hometown hero. Hello. Hello. Oh, hi. Hair blowing in. the wind, right? And then she takes her. seat at the restaurant table and dives. into this uh discussion, this business.

discussion about selling or uh. potentially acquiring a piece of the. company, doing this little exchange. And. you just have to love it. To me, her and. her mom are like Bonnie and Clyde. And. I'm told that during this discussion, uh. Erica then drops the fact that she has. and and her mother Her mother says, "Oh, well, she's It's not known yet, but. she's just now dating a guy that has. some very big political connections. They're just a couple of months into. dating. Cuz that's that sweetens the. deal a little bit. Oh, you got this. beautiful girl, and now you realize this. girl has access to someone who is a.

player, right? And the person in retrospect thought. that she was talking about Charlie Kirk, but she actually wasn't at this time, according to our timeline, Erica was. dating Cabot Phillips. Cabot Phillips. didn't have He was on Ellen DeGeneres. He had a little thing going with his. brothers. uh early on. And so, that's was to. suggest Now, they never said the name, but she's got a political boyfriend. who's got some connections as well. And.

And oh, look, she's. Miss Arizona, right? Well, fortunately uh for the men that. were involved with the patent, nothing. actually ever materialized from that. meaning, but it sure is interesting. that Lori Frantzbe was interested. in the weapons industry, particularly in. the unique gun industry, guns unlike. guns had ever been made before industry, the kind of industry that Victor Marx.

was into. And this person, apparently, the person. that was involved with this patent, eventually got into a little uh lawsuit. with Victor Marx. I don't know who won. I'd have to dig it up. I'm still. researching that. But it's just a tangled web. weaving. Our faith leaders, remember, Erica says. she learned everything that she knows. through the steadfast commitment and the.

faith of her mother, that her mother. sort of like was just this faithful. woman. I looked into Lori. I feel. differently about her. Okay? [laughter]. So, if she learned everything from her. mother, that should terrify you. That. should absolutely terrify you. It. terrifies me in the retrospect. Man, I wish I had uh done a deep dive on. Erica when Charlie had met her. I just. wanted him to find a girl, settle down. I knew I knew how much he wanted that. And so, I just was too much of the.

wingwoman. But uh this just can't keep happening, you guys. The pattern that I am seeing here, uh. guns, trafficking, sex trafficking, charities, always. charitable, Erica always somehow just. floating around. Something ain't right here. Something is not right. And as I. mentioned to you guys before, as we started to see people always like, you know, one degree away from Jeffrey.

Epstein, one degree away from Israel, um. sometimes less than that. One of the. things that just strikes me as as as. really compelling is to. consider the timeline. Jeffrey Epstein goes down in. 2017, right? Did Jeffrey Epstein go down. in 2017? I think it was 2017, 20 20 Maybe 2018, actually. And suddenly, like, we're. supposed to believe his entire network. crashed and burned. And everyone's like, "Okay, it's it's a global trafficking.

network. that began with weapons." I keep. reminding you guys, Jeffrey Epstein, we. we speak about the files and we talk. about the blackmail and we talk about. the sex, but Jeffrey Epstein began his career. in weapons trafficking. The Iran-Contra scandal. How do we know. that? Because a former Mossad agent. testified to that effect, that he was. introduced by Robert Maxwell and brought. into the Iran-Contra affair. They've. tried to bury that connection, but you. can certainly found it. We did in our. Epstein series, uh thankful uh.

thankfully because of the journalism of. Xavier Boussard, um who over in France. Don't forget that. I believe, like I've. said multiple times, that Jeffrey. Epstein's network reemerged. And I think. it reemerged in the not-for-profit. world. I'm speculating, but I'm also really good at puzzles. And. I just don't see how certain patterns. can just keep happening, that like. faithful people can truly just be. interested all in the exact same thing, uh.

human sex trafficking. And I got to tell you, there are still. more connections to be added that we. have not yet shared yet. Anyway, we are going to take a brief. break, and then I'm going to tell you. all about Blake Neff and his. shocking attack against me on X. All right, you guys, Mother's Day is one. of the most beautiful times of the year. to share life-changing news. Maybe. you've seen that moment a family. gathered together when someone smiles. and says, "Next year, we're going to. have a brand new mom in the family.". There really is nothing like it. But for. some women, Mother's Day feels very. different. Instead of celebrating, they're carrying a secret. They're.

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month. That's puretalk.com/owens. Okay, so Blake Neff, you know, he's uh. he has a talent of sorts. He has a way. of just always sort of leaning into a. conversation when actually nobody cares. about his opinion, and never responding. when we make a pretty big claims. You. know, he responds to nothingness. And. then we're like, "Hey, Blake, while. you're here, could you answer our. question about this big thing, this big.

topic that we have brought to the. forefront of the American conscience?". No. So, yesterday, he just took a random. shot at me, and here's what he said. It. was kind of shocking that he said this, actually. He wrote, "In the opening of. her show today," which, thank you for. watching my show. Um Candace claims, quote, "Liars on the internet have. falsely claimed that Tyler Robinson's. family turned him in, and that they have. falsely claimed his parents, quote, 'recognized grandpa's gun on the news,'. end quote, which is impossible, she.

says, since no photos of the gun were. released before Robinson's arrest. This. is a remarkably precise way to be. dishonest, because when one simply. bothers to read the charging document, one sees that Robinson's parents did not. recognize the gun. They recognized. photos of the suspect, which were. released by the FBI as looking like. their son. Only then did they move on to suspecting. that the rifle was a match, and at that. point, the FBI had already announced. that they had found a high-powered. bolt-action rifle. We know Candace has.

seen all of this. It's worth asking, "Why would she so deliberately. misrepresent the evidence?" So, he. quotes me as saying, "Liars on the. internet have falsely claimed that he. His parents recognized the gun." And so, I think what's going on is. they've changed the story so much. Like. I say, the FBI's making it up as they go. along. They forget the lies they told us. yesterday. Like they forget what money. they've spent on influencers to. influence us about uh certain topics or. certain facts yesterday, cuz then and.

then they moved on. They're like, "Oh, no, we can't say that anymore." And that. is what Blake is succumbing to here. So, I just obviously tweeted right back at. him the headlines, or many headlines, which said exactly what I shared. Like. this one in the Daily Mail, "Tyler. Robinson's father realized his son was. shooter after seeing family heirloom in. media reports. And then I had shared. with him another one that was on MSN. that they had he had recognized the. rifle. And by the way, since you're. speaking about the charging document,

which I have read many times over and. over again, that's exactly where they. were getting it from. Not what the. police officer said, but from Tyler. Robinson's and by Tyler Robinson's I. mean the feds very sloppy messages they. put together. This is the text message Blake that. people used to deduce that his dad might. have seen the rifle on the news. He. wrote, "My dad wants photos of the. rifle. He says grandpa wants to know who.

has what. The feds released a photo of. the rifle and it is very unique. He's. calling me right now, not answering.". Well, if you read that message Blake, it. kind of sounds like the reason his dad. is calling him is because the feds. released a message of the rifle and it's. very unique. It doesn't sound like he's saying it was. a generic release, which it was. So, that's why this didn't really make. sense. It was fair for the media to. conclude on the basis of those messages. that his dad recognized it and that's.

why he was calling Tyler. So, I hope. that helps. I know it's difficult, like. I said, when you lie, you have to have a good memory. That's. what Judge Judy always instructed to. people. If you're going to be a liar, you better have a good memory. And you, my friend, do not have a good memory. But while we have your attention, Blake. Neff, there was this huge claim that we. made on the show. um about a week ago where I said that I. spoke to multiple donors who tell me. that the audio that you released of.

Charlie Kirk saying, "I appoint Erica. Kirk. to be the CEO and chairman if something. ever happens to me." They claim that he. never said that in Aspen. They claim. Erica actually was in Aspen even though. she didn't attend the event and that. Charlie definitively never said that on. stage, nor did he say it in a smaller. dinner uh that took place with about 10. to 12 people is my understanding. That's. a pretty big claim I'm making there, Blake. I'm saying that I have proof, I.

have at least testimony. uh from donors, your donors, that say. that they believe that that is AI. And you have testified to the public or. Erica rather um certainly explained to. Megan Kelly, you guys were the ones to. introduce. that you have the video. And yet you declined to share the video. What a beautiful sight that would have. been. Charlie Kirk opening AmFest. um. a video of him saying. "I appoint Erica Kirk." Walks out. Wow,

there wouldn't have been a dry eye in. the place, Blake Neff. So, why didn't you guys move to show. that? That doesn't seem like you guys. That. seems out of the ordinary. You guys have. I mean you you put up a tent. uh a recreation of a tent that Charlie. had died under for selfies. You're It. kind of feels like if you had the video, you would have shared it. And instead. you got angry at me when I suggested. that you should share the video. And you. accused me of being a psychopath with. with a with a gun or a knife rather on a.

subway and that's why you couldn't share. it. Okay, you don't need to share it. with me, Blake. You should share it with. people in the world because it just. makes sense to do that. So, yeah, while we have your attention, could you respond. to that much more severe allegation. rather than just responding to me. telling the truth? Could you actually. respond. to me asserting that your own donors. think that you may have used AI and then. lied to the public because you wanted.

them to accept Erica in the role of. Charlie Kirk? Any kind of response would be great. here. You could say that's not true. The. donor's lying. He did say it. We do have. the video. We just want to keep it in a. vault. I wouldn't recommend you say that. That. would be a stupid lie. Well, you kind of did say that. But um. yeah. If you could just respond to that, that'd be great. Anyway, on to greener pastures, I guess. Greener pastures. Laura Loomer is. trending for a tweet that she directed. to me yesterday that upsets a lot of.

people. It upset them because it was. just so shockingly dark and demonic. This is the tweet that I am referring to. that's trending. Uh it's directed to me. after yesterday's episode. She said, "God hates you at Real Candace O. It's. why he gave Charlie to Erica and why you. didn't even get to say goodbye to him. God hates you. Look in the mirror and. internalize how much God hates you. We. all hate you. Humanity hates you. And. you are irredeemable." And this caused a. reaction uh across the internet. I think.

like 6,000 people replied to that tweet. alone in uh a ratio. And I think I was. like going, "Why are people surprised by. this?" And I realized um they don't know. who Laura Loomer is. And I I think maybe. these people don't take us literally. when we say that Trump, that's one of. his top advisers, is surrounded by people who are quite. literally in need of an exorcism. I'm. not saying that for dramatic effect. I. am saying literally he is surrounding. himself with people that have.

are I think demonstrably demonic. Right? Like that's a that's what people were so. shocked like, "That's just demonic. That's very strange. It doesn't hurt. anybody's feelings. It makes me. uncomfortable to be around you. That. seems like you, you know, worship Baal. That's That's why you would say. something like that. That's very weird. thing to say." And that's kind of what. I'm trying to clue you guys into. That. is why Laura Loomer has become. significant because we can look at her. to understand the erraticism of Donald. Trump, our president. He doesn't seem. like the same person. He seems as though. he has been possessed. That's his top.

adviser. According to her, multiple. times a day she speaks to him on the. phone. One of the first phone calls he. made after attacking Iran was to Laura. Loomer. And so it was important for me to break. down who she is and to make sure that. you lower your expectations when it. comes to people like her. Like I said, her goal is to harm people. psychologically by lying. Just by lying. openly all the time. And I want you to know that in her own. words she has admitted to her addiction,

which she has described as cocaine-like. to Spectator cuz she'll say, "Oh, it. doesn't matter. This is this this. person's lying." Take Laura in her own. words. in an article that was done by the. Spectator here, which was called The. Tale of Laura Loomer, which was. published in 2019 where she described. having anxiety and depression. She. wrote, "I had really bad anxiety and. depression and then I started to. basically deal with depression by doing. cocaine. I was never a drug user before, but I was using cocaine to kind of deal. with it." Laura was 23 years old. She.

continues, "There were phases when I. wouldn't sleep for 3 days straight and. one morning I woke up and drove myself. to a cliff and it was cold and kind of. snowy outside. It was February. I tried. to kill myself. Like legitimately tried. to kill myself." Okay. So, you can understand why she's not. allowed to own guns. Suicide is nothing. to mock, but it is something that she. uses as one of her tools often. She, like I told you yesterday, she makes. suicidal threats and there is an aspect. of her that feels very homicidal. I I'm.

not being. funny. I'm not trying to be ironic when. I say that this is a person who should. not have access to the president of the. United States. And everybody everybody. sees that. And the fact that people. reflect and think if something happened. to Trump, like I told you, people in as. I understand it, Melania is in her. circle, have said this, that she would be the. most likely person to harm Donald Trump. And what would be crazy in the. retrospect. is that the whole world would go,

"Yeah, duh.". Duh. Like if she harmed a person, everyone would look around and go, "Every single sign was there. 50 states you can't own a gun in, things. that you have said and shared about. yourself, threats that you have made to. other people, the manner in which you attack. children." Like she she wants my. children to suffer as she said. yesterday. She wants my children to. suffer and to live on the streets. because she doesn't like that I'm.

against what Israel is doing. She she's attacking my lawyer. She's. attacking my in-laws. That is the kind. of person who is dangerous to themselves. and to others. And so how did she deal. with her cocaine addiction? If you're. wondering why it seems like she tweets. every 5 minutes and like she's deep in. the throes of. of a manic episode, well, she explains. in this article, "I have nothing to lose. now." And by the way, this is in the. context of her having lost her Twitter. uh access. This is.

I have nothing to lose now, so it's. liberating, she says. I became addicted. to social media. I kind of lived off of. the adrenaline. It's not a very healthy. lifestyle to live because when you stop. using cocaine, for example, you learn to. cope with anxiety and depression in. other ways. I pretty much substituted my. lows for adrenaline rushes on Twitter. When I got banned, I was honestly having. withdrawals. Okay. So, it's it's a drug for her. Like. Twitter is a drug for her and that's why. she tweets into the wee hours of the. morning saying crazy things, spiraling.

in these manic episodes. Um and so I just want to make that clear. to you. These are the people. when you look at what Donald Trump is. saying, what he is doing, and why he. just does not seem like he is steady. right now, like he does not seem like. there is a sane voice. He went from. having the advice. um of people like Charlie Kirk. and radically flipped that to people. like Laura Loomer and Paula White Caine. Okay? This is a real clip of of of Laura.

Loomer when she did Alex Jones a few. years ago. Take a listen. But what are they doing? I WANT TO KNOW. WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO. MY. LIFE IS RUINED. DOES ANYBODY UNDERSTAND. HOW RUINED my life is? I'm sick of it. I. don't want TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE TELL ME. THAT I'M A CONSPIRACY THEORIST. They. don't know what it's like to be me. MY. LIFE IS RUINED, ALEX. SO, FORGET LAURA LOOMER. The question.

you should be asking yourself is is. Donald Trump mentally fit to be. president? If he makes a conscious. decision to tweet out that Tucker. Carlson and Meghan Kelly and Candace. Owens are mentally ill. while he invites into his inner circle. advice about what he should do to Iran, a person like Laura Loomer. Who when we're calling her crazy and. we're talking this is a clinical. diagnosis. It's not an opinion. It's not. funny. We're not using the word loosely. This is a clinical diagnosis. I.

personally think that Trump needs an. intervention. I don't think the back. forth uh when I see the eroticism of the. way he tweets, it it's almost as if he. he's given access. uh to his Truth Socials to people like. her. There is there's just uh. there's an eroticism here that feels. dangerous for our country, right? Like. he doesn't care anymore that he's gotten. to some point of desperation, whether he. is functioning under duress, um whether he is being blackmailed, I.

don't know. What I do know is this is. not the Trump that we had for the first. four years. And even if you have hated. him from the very beginning, if you love. the idea that the Republican Party is at. war with each other, if you're still. functioning within the left-right. paradigm, um you should pull yourself. away and actually have a a broader sense. of concern for the country. I and want. there to be actually an intervention. You should pray for Donald Trump. You. should want there to be a sane voice in. the room. And at the moment, we're not.

getting that. Um and so that's what I just wanted to. to say is don't be surprised at what. Laura Loomer is doing. Be surprised that. she has the ear of the President of the. United States. We'll be right back after. a a brief break. All right, you guys, let's talk about. something most of us have never even. heard of, but you should have. It is. called C15, a powerful essential fatty. acid that research shows many are. deficient in. That's why I have been. taking a science-backed supplement. designed to help optimize your C15. levels, and it's called Fatty15.

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hasn't been given full disclosure.". Yeah, it is going to be very. interesting. I know a lot of people um. had looked into the judge and thought. that it was very suspicious that he was. appointed by Governor Cox and that he. like didn't have the background and the. experience for a case of this size. There was something new about him. I did. I never covered it. This will be the. tell. Uh like I said, a continuance is just. it's basically like common courtesy in. court. Like unless you're I I could see.

if you're like 3 years into something. and you're like, "No, no. I want this to. move on with it." But 7 months into the. like the highest profile murder case in. Shayna FK, this is nothing. This is nothing to ask for. with the amount of stuff that they have. to look through. We looked they dumped. 600,000 files on them in March. And and. you're arguing this? That does not sit. right with me, and it should not sit. right with you. And if this judge does. not grant this continuance after. effectively ensuring them that when they. rebutted immediately.

to putting a date on the calendar. because of this very thing. Remember, the the the defense said, "Let's not put. a day on the calendar until we have our. discovery stuff and we we'll have a. better idea." And the judge said, "Oh, no, it's all good, you know, par for the. course is we can we can always bump it. down the line." If that judge now does a. 180, if the court does a 180 and is like, "Actually, we can't bump this anymore. because Erica has asserted her right as. a victim." Um. we'll know. We already know. You know, we don't know, no, but we. know. Uh but I think that at that moment, we.

will know, no, what's really going on. with this judge, and we will be locked. in and covering it. Second uh top. comment is from Faith Central. She. wrote, "A class action lawsuit should be. filed against the FBI on behalf of Tyler. Robinson due to the FBI withholding. evidence from the defense." Do you know. what? I have thought about that. I have. thought about what are the ways in which. we can compel information. on the outside? Like should we learn.

their way where everyone's like just. suing and ceasing and desisting and. should we learn their tools for. compelling that sort of information? It's a conversation worth having, and. it's probably a conversation that I I. should have uh since I have so many. lawyers all the time. I might as well. toss them a question about what can we. do to get answers, you know, uh from. these organizations, from these people. to get them to answer the basic. questions that the public deserves to. know cuz I they like I said, they. brought to the public into this when. they made the decision to assassinate.

Charlie Kirk publicly. Okay? They don't get to then tell us, "Oh, well, you shouldn't mind.". On that note, I do want to say and uh. put out an an APB. Um. I just have this. deep question that I. deep consideration about what happened. to Charlie's body. Uh and I don't really. buy the idea the reaction Erica had when. somebody asked asked her a question or. why Fox News asked her that question. when they said, "Oh, like.

she's like, "Can I have one thing for my. kids?". And they asked about where he was. buried, and it was like, "One thing for. your kids, girl, you took us into the. casket. We Why do you care? Like if he. highly unusual. It would be highly. unusual uh for people to be going around. wanting to like dig up a casket or uh. the person's the person is dead. They're. gone from this world. There there does. tend to be some basic reverence that. people have. And if there's not, hey, guess what? You have a ton of money. You. could get security um to monitor.

for a little bit until it's out of the. public conscience. And I I had wondered. because I learned early on that she had. moved the body a couple of times. And that doesn't sit right with me. There was no reason to do that, and I am. wondering if they cremated Charlie's. body. That's a yes or no question. You. don't need to tell me where Charlie's. body is. But did you cremate him? Yes or no? And so if you have information. pertaining to that, if you have a yes or. no answer to that, and at first his body.

was taken to a place that was a a burial. plus cremation services, and then it was. taken somewhere else, >> else, and I am just wondering whether or not. Charlie was ever buried or whether or. not he had a Catholic funeral mass and. um then he was cremated. I think that's a fair question given. where we are at in this investigation. It's a yes or no question. Was Charlie.

Kirk cremated? If he was, we [snorts] are just um. we'll be in a whole new place, guys. We'll be in a whole new place if you. have information. uh pertaining to that. More tips at candaceowens.com. More tips at candaceowens.com. We will. protect your identity entirely. You can. trust us. We have protected our sources. from the very beginning. We still. protect our sources. There has not been. anyone um that has been outed as one of. our sources, and if I was compelled to.

testify, I wouldn't. uh because this matters to me, and I. want I want to know. um whether or not Charlie was cremated. I find her reaction to be very strange, actually. actually. I don't think it was. for her kids. I don't think she does. anything for her kids. Just looking at everything, being frank. I don't I don't think the priority for. Erica is her kids. Where he's buried. I That doesn't feel. right. Anyway, uh getting into some of your. comments from today's episode. Keeping. faith with Father Joseph writes, Candace, I have footage that could. change the investigation. DM me. Email. it to us. Um, I'll look out for that.

More tips at CandaceOwens.com. Thank you. Bigfoot believer writes, when. the investigation began, you mentioned. that you felt that the shot came from a. left of Charlie. I wonder if that is. visible. >> [snorts]. >> in Tarrio's footage, which is why he. zoomed. I have a big test tomorrow. Took. a break to watch you. I need a bit of. luck. Good luck on your test. Study hard, but. don't study too hard because you get to. that point where you're actually not. even retaining any information. And it's best to uh study right before. you go to sleep.

And then wake up fresh and a lot of. information will come to you. Uh Alaska dog lady writes, everyone. wants to make fun of us Catholics until. they need an exorcism. I'm looking at. you, Larry. Yeah. That she is very much in need of an. exorcism. That's the only thing that can. explain that. The places that her mind. goes, and she doesn't understand that. that's not like a normal person doesn't. get there. It's just weird. You don't get there. You don't want to harm kids. You don't. want kids to like.

Here's some kids. I want our kids to. live on the streets. It's like, okay, man. You're making everybody. uncomfortable here. Uh Spyro writes, Loomer's whiteboard. notes are so sad. Blank days until. election. Stay focused. No drama. Hit. goals. Victory. I need a a registry for. all her supporters. I want to know which. stupid people are even more stupid. behind closed doors. Yeah, I mean. her whole life is Donald Trump, and she. If you go back and look at her tweets, it's not You don't say. like I love like if she's like I'm in. love. I love. It's It's giving fatal.

attraction. And I Trump will not get out. of that with his hands clean. You don't. get to make deals with devils and then. think that you're not going to suffer. down the line, right? The devil always. collects. You want someone to do your dirty work, but be aware that they know your. secrets. You don't think she's recording. you? Keeping a file on you like that's That. will be something one day. And so the. the Trump family made a big mistake. welcoming that in. Unstable is unstable. Mentally insane is mentally insane.

Uh Nay writes, I'm wondering if Kash. Patel's country singing superstar. girlfriend will write some songs and. perform them for us at the show trial of. the century. I'm wondering if she's. maybe helping with the text messages. The Feds not messages. You know, there. was this line that they added in now. that people have been going through the. affidavits, you know, they had some. ellipses at various points in the. messages that we got, and they've added. sentences. And one of them was, I hope. I'm not kidding. This is in Tarrio. Robinson's messages. I hope that uh.

pooch, referring to the dog. He said the. canines were here. I hope that pooch has. a bad sniffer. That's what Tarrio Robinson wrote to. Lance. We're supposed to believe that. And I feel like that could be a country. song. My man was in the country to have. bad sniffers. Hey, man. Hey, man. Kash's meme air. Like I don't. I feel. they were just kind of writing some. music when they did those text messages. It's possible. Right? It's more. plausible than what they're selling us. right now.

So I feel. And I feel like Kash Patel. right now suing. um is it The Atlantic because they said. that he's a drunk. I actually feel like. The Atlantic's argument should be that. that makes him look good. Right? It's. much more damaging and defamatory and. mortifying to your brand to think that. you're doing this in your sobriety. Right? Drinking would be a great excuse. for like. an FBI, the head of the the DOJ coming. out and being like, my girlfriend's a. sensational country That's.

really mortifying. But if you're drunk, like, oh my god, what did I say last. night? Oh my I was crazy. No, I didn't. mean that. I was just drunk, guys. I was. crazy. Oh, man. That's None of that's. real. So I think he should go with that. I think he should go with excessive. drinking. The Atlantic should argue they. were trying to make him look good and. offer an explanation for the things that. he has said and the things that he have. has done. And that the average person. finds that to be good for him. That'd be.

better than him really in his sobriety. doing some of these things. Anyways, that's my opinion. I'm sticking to it. Matthew writes, [snorts] so Blake. Masters brave enough to reply to you on. X calling you a liar, but won't come. into your studio to prove you're a liar. Yeah, that doesn't sound childish and. cowardice at all. Man up, Blake. LOL. Look, he doesn't have to come to my. studio. Like it's so tech is just so. easy. We can just appear on the Charlie Kirk. show. He can just appear on the Candace. show. I don't I would welcome the. conversation, particularly about the AI.

I don't feel these donors are making. that up. They were pretty shocked. Shocked to hear that it was the Aspen uh. little retreat thing that it came from. They're certain that Charlie never said. it. I've I would reply if I was Turning. Point USA. We'll see. Tar Kay writes uh Tarkaya. writes, Laura Loomer is very dangerous, especially if she has been given access. anywhere near the president of the. United States. Yeah, he's just playing. with fire. Play, play, play, and then it burns down.

your whole house. I don't know. I I'm. not uh his other advisers. So you just. have to let happen what is going to. happen. And um we'll see. We'll see what. happens. Anyway, you guys, I will tomorrow we. will have an interview for you with. Corby Hall. Yes, I am very excited about. this. Obviously, you know, Victor Marx. uh did not want to join with Corby Hall. So we kept our appointment with Corby. Hall. And you'll be able to hear his. story about what Victor Marx had to say. Victor Marx is saying.

all of these demands, I'll do it. I get. to bring my wife Okay, no. Okay. You can. just join the show, Victor Marx. Be. normal. I'm going to let Corby tell his. piece and present his evidence. And then. you can similarly tell your piece, and. you can present your evidence. You don't. get to bring your wife and list all of. these terms of engagement. Just. I'll give you a dial-in. How about that? I I feel like that's probably the most. appropriate thing given some more stuff. that I have learned about you and Jimmy. Barbecue. Guys, this is going to sound. crazy, but Jimmy Barbecue's watching the.

show. I don't know what to say. I'm I'm a big. deal in Haiti. That's what I want you guys to know. I'm. a very big deal in Haiti. I got some. boys out in Haiti. So nobody better mess. with me, okay? Nobody better mess with. me is what I'm going to say. So you just. be careful what you're saying at this. toddler park, Cabot Phillips. You just. be careful cuz I'm out of my boot, and I. got some people in Haiti. Okay? And they'll take care of business for. me. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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