Liars Who Lie: TPUSA Tried To Scrub THIS SCANDAL From The Web. Katie Zacharia Comes Clean (Kinda).

All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. Great news this morning regarding Katie. Zacharia, the new press secretary. She's. come clean finally, sort of. I mean, at. least she's acknowledging that no, she. is not an attorney. We got there. But. now she's presenting a rather confusing. reason as to why or how she thought that. she was allowed to go around saying that. she was the lawyer and general counsel. Also, the reason that she didn't just. take the bar after she failed, it's.

exceptional. I want you guys to hear I. want you to hear her in her own words. Moving on from that, you know how I've. been saying that I do not like Club. America. I don't like that initiative at. Turning Point USA, this bizarre push to. get into middle schools and high. schools. It's making me uncomfortable. given the fact that it's being foed upon. the young students. Well, a recent. arrest which Turning Point USA tried to. scrub any affiliation from might help. you understand why I feel that way. And. by the way, did you know that Turning. Point action is sending, "Hey, we're.

broke type" type emails. It's making me. suspicious now about the alleged. vandalization of the Charlie Kirk statue. that happened back in September. Uh. followed by that bizarre push for us to. give money to chase the ballot. More on. that. Welcome back to Candace.

All right. So, in case you missed it. yesterday, I did pin a comment beneath. our EP episode after one of you guys. back home, one of you sleuths instantly. emailed us and noticed something. regarding Governor Cox's public schedule. during the week of September 10th. You'll remember yesterday we were noting. how odd it was that the governor had no. apparent schedule uh for September 9th. or the 10th despite September being an. extremely busy season for politicians.

Well, one of you guys emailed the tip. line and noticed that actually the. governor's office just made a mistake. I. mean, we're assuming it was a mistake. and that it was unintentional. Let's. just pull this up to show it to you. guys. So, you can see they had September. 8th published and then September 8th. jumps to Tuesday, September 2nd, and. then beyond that it goes to Wednesday, September 3rd. And actually, we were. able to confirm thanks to that home. sleuth that someone just entered those.

two dates incorrectly. It's meant to be. instead of September 2nd and September. 3rd, it's meant to be September 9th and. September 10th. So th that is his. schedule for the 9th and the 10th which. by the way makes matters infinitely more. interesting because it means that on the. evening of September 9th not on. September 2nd as we had initially. reported officer house of rep Tyler. Clancy had that private one-on-one. meeting with the governor. So that.

happened on the 9th and then the very. next day, as we have already shared with. you, Tyler Clancy allegedly was the. person who was selected to transport. Turning Point employees to the airport. to pick up Erica. And I'm told that this. is actually Tyler Clancy speaking over. the police radio regarding that pickup. So take a listen. >> Confirming this channel secure. >> No, the program main channel is not. secure. >> My apologies. I was just saying is. service channel uh able to be scanned or.

am I can I give information over this uh. channel? >> You're good. We have uncut the service. channel. So this is just provo service. Go ahead and talk. >> This will be info for IC. Uh myself and. Sergeant Dufet are uh in route to Provo. airport. Uh victim's wife is arriving at. 3:30. >> Okay. So that seems to check out. We listened.

to his voice in other interviews. It. certainly sounds a lot like him. And. additionally, beyond that, we reported. that it was officer Tyler Clancy who at. some point that same day or evening, telling on who's telling the story, disposed of a bloodied item that. belonged to Turning Point USA or one of. their affiliates. And we induced that it. was likely Frank Turk's bloodied bag. since Frank and Bank gave an interview. revealing that he instructed a police. officer to throw out his bag because.

according to him Charlie's body had been. on top of it in the car during the. chaotic ride over to the hospital. And. that I mean just brings a lot of. questions to my mind. I will say this, it doesn't even make sense to me that. Frank asked the officer to throw it out. like why don't just throw it out. yourself can't find a trash can to throw. it out yourself and it seems that Tyler. as I am told told a slightly varied. story to others um mainly that he was.

not instructed to do so but that he did. so out of his own valition on a whim. because the item had been left behind in. his car allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. We'll see. The takeaway that I want you. to have from all of this is that Tyler. Clancy played a significant role on. September 10th. And frankly, I'm just. struggling over here to believe that. it's somehow protocol for a police. officer to toss out a bag that's covered. in blood from a recently murdered.

victim. doesn't pass a sniff test for me. Especially before any information is. known regarding who the suspect or. suspects were, how he died, all of that. was just, you know, rumor and innuendo. at that point. Yeah, my gut tells me that it is not. standard police protocol to listen to. Frank Turk. We'll see. And I'll tell you. guys that the reason that I have been. sort of now zeroing in on Governor Cox.

is because people in Utah say that. Governor Cox's boys were all over the. Charlie Kirk case. Didn't understand. this. There's like factions in Utah and. they're like, "Governor Cox has like, you know, the Cox boys and now he's got. power and he can, as we saw, give people. promotions.". And we had already established, by the. way, long ago that Governor Cox lies. He's a politician. He speaks. He lies. That's not that shocking. But beyond. that, if you remember early on in the.

investigation, it was it was Governor. Cox that was the one telling us. instantly that this was a politically. motivated assassination despite no. evidence uh confirming that at that. time. He also was the one who put out. the narrative. He was standing in front. of Cash Patel and he said the shooter. changed clothes on the roof. And I want. to be clear, he didn't say that amongst. chaos and confusion. He he reported that. with Cash Patel behind him on September. 12th, so long after the FBI had secured.

and reviewed the footage. Take a listen. >> One more thing, Governor. Could you just. clarify the clothing issue you mentioned. earlier? Was he changing outfits? >> Correct. Yes. Yes. So, um, so when he's. first spotted on campus, he has. different clothing on and then he. changes clothing on the roof and then. changed back into that clothing at some. point so that when when he was uh when. he was apprehended when he when he was. arrested, um, the clothing matched the. clothing he had on before the shooting.

here at UBU. >> I don't know, guys. That doesn't seem. like he just made a mistake there. Someone could have jumped in and said, "You're wrong." It just feels like they. were confusing the public and then they. had to go back and fill in all these. holes and the story got even crazier. Anyway, I'm interested in exploring the. governor's movements on the 9th and the. 10th because it would be curious, interesting fact, so to speak, if he did. indeed gulf with Val Peterson on the.

morning of the 10th after having spent. an evening with Tyler Clancy on the 9th. A a bizarre coincidence. Uh, and he, as you probably can see, that is looking. at his schedule. He doesn't have golf. with Val Peterson on it. Not on his. official schedule. Anyway, what is noted. is that he had on the 10th, on the. morning of the 10th, um, an event. He. was the keynote speaker at the Rally. Connects trade show um which was up in. Mona at 9:00 a.m. We were able to find a.

photo of that on LinkedIn posted from. the AV company that miked him which. corroborates that attendance. Um and. then his next scheduled event was in. Murray Park at 11:30 a.m. So that's back. toward Salt Lake City, which is where. the governor's mansion is. Uh he was. slated to speak to the staff. uh it was. a staff picnic at the uh Utah Department. of Environmental Quality. So, we. confirmed that he's there. Okay, great. So, I would offer that if he and Val. Peterson did meet up for golf, it was.

likely before this, by the way. That. would make sense just in terms of how. people golf. You wanted an early morning. tea time, especially when it's you've. got summer heat. And I want to state. that my sources on this that Val. Peterson was with the governor on the on. September 10th are are solid. They're. not aware of one another and and the. sources are solid. And I want you guys. to know that we have reached out to the. governor's office asking for a. confirmation or denial. We will keep you.

guys posted. Now, regarding Val. Peterson, the man, the myth, the legend, the alleged most powerful man in the. state. Now that we have discovered, as. we did, that his brother Charles Chuck. Chuck boy over there has some legal. issues, and that's me putting it mildly, we can continue to formally acknowledge. that it just appears to be this creepy. recurring theme with too many people.

that are involved in this story. It how. can it just keep being a theme? And I've. made it clear that there is something. that makes my skin crawl about Erica. Kirk and her pursuit of Club America. You know, there it's it's just. specifically the idea of the events that. are being, like I said, just forced upon. the middle schoolers and high schoolers. Underage kids, you got to go to. assembly. And especially because I know for a fact. that there are sexual deviants plus.

pastors with extremely checkered. backgrounds that are working at this. organization and who Erica has no issue. working with. That's not normal. That's. not a normal uh maternal instinct. When. you have young kids, as she does, as I. do, when people are creepy and weird, you get rid of them. And she has the. power to do that. And she's not doing. that. She's actually going into deeper. partnership with them. And so with my. platform, I have implored parents watch. this show to be very wary of this. organization with Eric Kirk at the helm.

of it. I can tell you now that I already. feel vindicated with that warning. because something has already happened. involving the president of a Club. America chapter in Idaho. Or rather, I. should say he's the now former president. of Club America in um Bonner Ferry, Idaho. His name is Taylor Dodd. when he. was 17 years old, he actually gave a. speech at Charlie Kirk's vigil and um he.

gave testimony regarding his experience. having met Charlie when he was young. Fast forward just one year and uh. unfortunately for Todd, just a couple of. weeks ago, he was arrested. And you will. never guess for what. Just kidding. You. will definitely guess for what. I'm. gonna I'm gonna take it to the chat. What do you guys What do you guys think. Taylor Dodd was arrested for? How can this Yep. Yep. Already got it.

He was arrested for child pornography. Here is the headline which was published. in the Bonner's Fairy Herald. Of course, he's now 18 years old. Young adult. arrested child sexual exploitative. material. Um, it tells us Taylor Do was. arrested in early September on seven. felony charges of child sexually. exploitative material. Officials became. aware of the alleged crimes through IAC, internet crimes against children task.

force which received a tip from Discord. Lot happening with Discord and Turning. Point USA. and in instant messaging and VIP social. platform when elicit images of minors. were downloaded from the app. The images. were downloaded in early April according. to court documents. This is they're. referring to he downloaded this April. 2026. Documents contend that other apps. were also used such as Telegram, an. instant messaging app, and Threads, a. textbased social media app by Meta to.

purchase and download images. In his. report, Officer Brandon Blackmore said. that 116 images had allegedly been. downloaded and saved to Dodd's phone. He. further acknowledged that Dodd said that. he had a severe pornography addiction. that had escalated to include children. To include children. Documents indicate. that the ages allegedly ranged. from 3 to 15. I'm going to say that again.

From 3 years old. to 15. And if you're wondering if this is. alleged, well, the article tells us that. according to court documents, he. confessed that he purchased and watched. the videos of child pornography, downloaded them, and saved them to his. cell phone. But he wrote an apology to. his parents, asking them to forgive him. for what he had done and expressing. regret for his actions and took full. responsibility for his actions. according to his case file.

Three-year-olds. What goes on in Idaho, ladies and. gentlemen? What goes on in Idaho? What. goes on in Utah? What goes on with. Turning Point USA? What goes on with. Turning Point Faith and Club America? What goes on with Erica Kirk? Also, you. should know that they tried to scrub. their affiliation from the internet. So, uh, there were a lot of broken links as. we were trying to hunt down this.

information. Thank you, by the way, to. the Slooh that emailed us the lead. This. had just happened because Turning Point. dealt with it. Like, they deal with. everything virtual absconding, right? They just gaslighting probably. because if you type in as we did. Bonner's ferry TPUSA president trying to. figure to confirm that that was him. The. first hit that you get is a local news. article where they had initially placed. an ad of sorts and they got a friend to. go back and just scrub the words Club.

America from the article. Look at this. This is incredible. Assuming it's a friend who did this. So, it's like she's kind of placing this. this ad in letters to the editor. Hello. there. My name is Kora Nichols and I'm. the vice president of Bonner's Fair's. Local that did say Club America. Homeschool Hub. I wanted to share some. of the recent activities that our hub. has been involved in. They just took it. out. They just took out their name so that. they could pretend that they were not.

affiliated with it and the people would. not see this hit. classic TPUSA, TPUSA today, I should say, because this. was not a chronic issue when Turning. Point USA began. Not not until all the. money came in. um from God knows where. Not until. Turning Point got heaven focused, focused on heaven this start to manifest. as a problem. And I'm just wondering how.

much longer they're going to gaslight. us, threaten us, file lawsuits, and. think that we're going to shut up and I. guess like bend the knee to this. Like, no. Why is everybody just noticing. this? This is totally normal. Every. organization goes through these growing. pains of child pornography all the time. What? And lastly, I want to add this before we. go on to break. we should discuss. Turning Point Action because um Turning. Point Action is run by a sexual deviant.

Tyler Boyer, I keep telling you this and. Charlie wanted to fire uh Tyler Ber. before he passed. That's if Mikey McCoy. is to be believed. Mikey McCoy told. donors this. And I um was told twice, it. was one of our biggest and earliest. leads, that the reason that Charlie had. established Doge, as I've said too many. times, seven days before he died, was. because money was missing out of turning. point action. And the amount that I was. told, and this is from TurningPoint. Insiders, as well as somebody who knew. Charlie personally outside of Turning.

Point USA, was that $10 million was. missing. And Charlie wanted to know. where it went. The money disappeared. Well, I can tell you, and I will state. this just to be fair, when I approached. Justin Strife about this this lead, he. came back to me and said, "No, this is. not this is not true." Whatever, whatever, whatever. He denied it. But. again, the source, you know, the it was coming the call was. coming from within the house. So, you. either believe a Turning Point employee. or you don't believe a Turning Point.

employee that this was going on. Well, guess what? Update to today and appears. that Turning Point Action is suddenly. out of money. And I told you this was an. interesting lead because Turning Point. Action. brings you back to Erica's mother, Superfeed. Lorie Fronbay and Tyler Boyer. work together. They have known each. other since before Charlie was ever in. the picture. And I had wondered out loud. if whether or not when Charlie began on. this pursuit to find the money if he. realized. that something was going on that the.

money was funny that Lorie France Fay. and Tyler Boyer maybe did something. funny with the money. I don't know. But. I can tell you that today it appears. that that situation which Justin Strife. said definitely was not happening could. potentially be happening at Turning. Point Action. At the very least, we can. establish that they're out of money. They they say they spent it all on on. ballot chasing initiatives. I'm going to. show you that. But I I do want to say. before I show you the email that they. sent out, I sensed this was coming just. on the basis of Statue Gate. You guys.

remember Statue Gate back in September. Uh you might recall was actually Tyler. Ber himself. He presented the newly. erected Charlie Kirk statue in front of. headquarters and within 72 hours the. statue was like one year we're erecting. the statue the statue in memorial of. Charlie and they said over the weekend. at 1:00 a.m. in the morning the statue. was vandalized by the left. How did they. know? Well, we don't know how they knew. it was a left but of course it had red. spread uh uh red spray paint and really.

uh sadistic writing. They said it's the. left. Bizarrely, they didn't want to share any. of the surveillance footage with the. public. I said, "That's weird. Everybody. knows Turning Point USA headquarters is. under heavy surveillance. Heavy. surveillance, especially because of the. assassination, the employees feeling. unsafe. They have heavy surveillance. Who would be so dumb. uh even if they're on the left? Why are. we saying it's left? I still have no. clue. To go ahead and to do this and.

expect not to be caught.". And when we asked for surveillance. footage, when we asked for details, hey, can you tell us what car? The public can. help. There's a lot of sleuths out. there. Clearly, somebody had to drive. onto your campus to do this. We got. nothing except. the one thing that they did want to. share immediately, links and requests. for us to donate specifically to their. ballot chasing initiative via Turning.

Point Action. It was exactly like the. Trump ballroom demands after the White. House correspondents dinner shooting. VERY COORDINATED MESSAGING. OH, SHOTS. FIRED. Trump needs his ballroom. We're. like, that's weird. Why are you saying. he needs a ballroom? Like, how about is. everybody okay? What happened? Why are. you instantly trying to propagandize and. tell us say he needs a ballroom as a. solution? Well, after statute gate, turning point USA's response was to. direct people not to the taxdeductible. uh charitable arm, the 501c3,

but rather to Tyler Ber's Turning Point. action 501c4 arm. Take a listen to jog. your memory here. >> I will tell you what the enemy intended. for evil, God is using for good. Uh I. want to praise so many of you out there. after this news broke. Uh the commit 100. program that we've been pushing on this. program is surging. So do not let evil. win. Use this as motivation to get. involved to be a part of the solution.

We cannot let evil ghouls win the day. We cannot be intimidated. We cannot be. cowed. Never surrender. So go do your. part. Be a part of the solution. Be a. part of something bigger than yourself. As Charlie would always say, go to. tpaction.com00. tpaction.com00. if we have the graphic. I know we had. that uh QR code from last week. Please. throw it up, but get involved. The the. people have surged to our commit 100. program. And so, God bless you guys. And. we even have some friends of uh Charlie.

and Erica that have put up $10,000. reward if anybody has a tip that they. can send law enforcement that leads to. the arrest of the vandals who did it. >> Update. The vandals who did this, the. tips apparently did not work. they have. not caught the person. And yes, Tyler. Ber reinforced this um on X as well. Here was his tweet at the time. He said, "After what the left did to our. headquarters today, we have a surge of. volunteers signing up to come to Arizona.

for commit 100. This is our program to. chase 100 ballots this October. We will. give you a room and training to help us. win. You can register here just pushing. these links to the ballot chasing. initiative." Well, guys, that was last. month. People had questions. There's. been no update, of course. Um, why would. they give us more information on that? Seems like they don't even want to catch. the vandals. But the update on Turning Point Action, which also has a Turning Point pack. that's associated with it, affiliated.

with it, is that they have no more. money. Here's the email that they sent. out. Hey, Patriot, here's the rundown. September was our busiest and best month. yet. More doors knocked, more. relationships built, more ballots. chased, more momentum than we've ever. had in a single month. And because of. that success, we've burned through our. financial resources faster than planned. Oh, please keep the ballot chasers. working. Sign up. Give us your money. Ah, okay. Got to say the entire statue.

situation, it's giving Jesse Smlet to me now. It. is. I feel like maybe didn't go down the. way that we were being told, but I'm. just gonna offer that. I feel like they. could have caught this person by now. I. feel like they could have released. information to the public. I feel like. their impulse to tell us to sign up to. chase ballots feels wrong to me. And. given everything that we know about how. Charlie felt about Turning Point action, allegedly, which I will again say Justin. Strife disputes, but people um who work.

at Turning Point USA dispute what Justin. Strive says. It feels like they need. money and like maybe some more money. disappeared again from Turning Point. Action. Maybe. I don't know for a fact, but I'm. telling you my instincts about the. statue is that we're not being told the. entire story um and that it was meant to. be a fundraiser push and we shouldn't. let that story go. Bobby Sauce um has. been hammering that. He brings it up all.

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let them know that you heard about them. right here on Candace. Okay, so Kate Zacharia, the new press. secretary, I have to I think I'm almost. a fan. The audacity of the gas light. I. I think I'm a fan of hers now. I don't. know. It's just it's so crazy that they. tried it and then they sent out the. influencers to try to influence us into. thinking that she's super qualified. The. craziest part of the story is you don't. have to pretend to be a lawyer. to be the press secretary. It's not it's.

not a requirement to be the press. secretary. We had Anthony Scaramucci as. the as the press secretary. I don't know. why you would need to say that you're an. attorney outside of your own ego and. then try to gaslight us with an answer. like China in China I did the thing when. somebody asks you explicitly how long is. this going to go on for and then we get. like always when we noticed the lie we. get yelled at by neocons on the internet. but Kate Zacharia she's now come clean.

she has come clean she was a mixup. not a traditional mixup I would say like. I I I don't know if I've ever mixed up. thinking that I was like a licensed. professional. Like, oh, I thought I was. a doctor. I got a little confused. Like, I thought I was a lawyer. I got a little. bit confused. Really, is it a mixup? I. don't know. I'll let her tell you guys. the story. But anyways, the Wall Street. Journal broke the news that she did not. pass the bar exam. She now can admit. that that did not happen. But the. confusion really stems uh because she.

had consulted with Pepperdine's. president as to how to identify herself. and she was told that as long as she. didn't use the words attorney or. esquire, she was okay to say that she. was a lawyer. I don't I don't know why Pepperdy's. president would tell her that that was. okay. Beyond that, I also want to be. clear that on her LinkedIn, she has. herself listed as a general counsel. Like that's not you didn't this doesn't.

feel like a mistake, but I'm I'm open to. hearing Katie as to how she arrived the. conclusion that she was a lawyer and why. it was okay. And you should hear her, too. First, let's just watch the super. cut of her saying she's a lawyer. to be able to take information. especially as a as a lawyer and a former. corporate lawyer in China for three. years and I mean I am a lawyer and I'm a. rigorous researcher and I spent the. better part of 2020 and 2021 researching.

this because I lost friends and family. would love to see justice as a lawyer. the procedural steps are absolutely. critical to ensure that they get this. right and that each has the ability to. both the state can prosecute and lay out. their case and also the defense can. respond accurately. >> and I love to be able to break that. down. I'm a lawyer and this these types. of issues are so tangible for people. >> because he wrote a book called The Real. Anthony Fouchy which I read cover to.

cover to substantiate all of the. theories that were actually not. theories, the known facts about him and. was was able to make a case because. that's what we do as lawyers for the. reason why I would not take anything. Fouchy recommended. >> Sounds like she thinks she's a lawyer. Well, gratefully, um, she sat down with. Jack Pasobic to further explore what. actually happened behind the scenes. And. she's going to say a lot of words, a lot.

of words. Try to follow along. Take a. listen. >> I think it's important to have the. context of my husband and I had a. long-distance relationship only from he. lived in Beijing, China. >> He was already there. >> He was already there. His his dad. introduced us to each other. His dad was. an adjunct professor at Pepperdine Law. and he do you want to meet my son and I. met his son and. >> and his son lived in Beijing and so it. was long distance while I did law school. and he was practic or he was in private.

equity an American private equity. company in China. I had already. pre-registered to take the bar and I. didn't want to withdraw from that and we. knew we would be moving out to China and. I was obviously incredibly I know. distracted and overwhelmed and excited. for finally being married to someone who. I'd been long distance from for at least. a year a year and a half when you. include the engagement. and we just. said, "Let's let's take this time and.

I'll take the bar and see what happens.". The results are somewhat inconsequential. because I knew I wouldn't need the bar. in China. And um and we left shortly. thereafter. And after moving to China, I. think I didn't I didn't really think. much of the bar results or consider that. something that I needed to focus on. And. I was offered a job at a in an. international practice division of a of. a Chinese law firm called Jungl Law. Firm. And the international practice.

were four associates under a senior. partner. And we worked the international. side, the English language side, and we. had a Chinese counterpart that was. there. There's no Chinese bar. I had the. enough credentials, which was my law. degree, to be able to do this practice. And these were multi-million dollar. shareholders agreements and transactions. that were crossborder and. there I had all the necessary. requirements to do that and I was able. to do it effectively and well and have. glowing recommendations from the senior.

partner who oversaw my time there. >> So when when you eventually do come back. and I'm just doing the timeline here, you eventually do come back. Why didn't. you decide to go back and try the bar. again? >> Well, when we moved back, Jack, we got a. surprise baby. our our first baby is. this is his birthday today and he is 12. years old. >> Happy birthday. >> and he um we got pregnant and we decided. all right well we're going to stay in. the United States and we are not going.

to move back abroad. Does this make any sense to me? What's a. surprise baby by the way? I I I would. I've heard of surprise pregnancies. I've. never heard a surprise baby because. usually you're surprised, you find out. you're pregnant and then you've got n. and a half months and the baby comes. So. why would that stop you from taking the. bar? I don't understand that. What's How. does a surprise baby What is a surprise. baby? A and B, how does that prevent you. from taking the bar when you have no.

kids? It doesn't. I actually checked. I. was like, are you prevented if you. failed? Do you have to wait a certain. time and take No, it says that you can. take it the next time it's administered. The bar is administered twice a year. According to just a little bit of. research I did today says it's. administered twice a year and you can. just keep taking it and she told him. that when they got back to America she. decided not to because they had a. surprise baby like a stork dropped it. off or something and no you also by the. way I do want to say this even if you.

have a baby you can take you can take. the bar exam I checked there doesn't. seem to be um any proclusions if you are. pregnant if you have a child if you have. two children three children four. children doesn't make any sense as to. why she then continued to describe. herself as an attorney. Um, yeah. So, we're just going to go with that. Like I. said, I think I like her now. I think I. like her now because she just says a lot. of words and says nothing. So, I I think. she's highly qualified to represent what. the Trump administration has become,

which is just a group of liars, right? By the way, in case you were following. the the administration and you know Pete. Hexath who tries to pretend to be tough, he just kind of is always jogging with. people in the military. Oh, I'll jog. with you at 5:00 a.m. Never mind that. I'm going to send you to die for Israel. Right. Well, one of his recent tough guy. things was, "We are going to be. executing the Fort Hood shooter and. we're going to live stream it." Like, what? What are what are we even speaking. about right now? It's we used to be a.

civilized society and debate the death. penalty in general like do you support. death penalty why you support it why you. don't support it now we are suddenly at. this radical point where people are. trying to say it is totally legitimate. for us to just live stream the death. like that's a totally normal thing to. want to watch someone die the Ford. shooter by the way obviously not an. innocent person uh he murdered a lot of. people and you can say I believe that he.

should be put to death, that's totally. fine. But to then take the extreme of. saying, "I want to watch him die." It's. like when we had people who were at. first like, "Oh, I'm I'm pro-choice cuz. I learned in school that's a clump of. cells." And then we suddenly had women. who were wearing t-shirts, they're 9. months pregnant like I am, and they're. like, "Still not a baby. I'll kill it.". And my producer had mentioned to me, it's like somebody being like, "No, I. want to watch you rip the baby from my. from my womb." Limb from limb for limb. This is where we're at now. And we're. trying to pretend that this is.

conservative. People are trying to make. theological arguments. Oh well, this is. what guys, we don't live in a theocracy. We don't live in a theocracy. The. Epstein class is in power. So you. empower them to just start live. executing people, right? This bolevik. generation of people that are in control. right now who have a pension for harming. children. And I feel like we're going to. very quickly arrive upon a slippery. slope. And you know who else thought. that? so brilliant ahead of his time. about what would happen if the so to.

speak Epstein class got that kind of. power. Charlie Kirk, take a listen. >> I would say in America I would oppose. the death penalty for a very specific. reason because right now the trend is. this current government will use any. power we give them against us. That so I. am and this is the Patriot Act argument, right? The moral argument I'm totally on. board. We had a government that was. ethical and understood, you know, duty. And. >> you're saying just you think the. government's so far gone that they could.

in. >> practically right now in America, I. think we should oppose the death. penalty. We should. >> because they could start executing. Charlie Kirks of the. >> No, they would. >> They they absolutely mean they would. >> Maybe. I don't know if it's that far. I. mean, >> like it's pretty bad. But I'm just. saying, you know, >> no, it's that bad. >> They're not doing it yet at least. >> What? The death penalty part? >> Yeah, they barely carry out the death. penalty at Oh, because right now. opposing the death penalty fits their. agenda, which is to try to have. compassion supersede justice, >> right? But make make no mistake, as soon. as the actual Bolsheviks take over,

they're going to want to bring back the. geek. >> They're going to come to this table. >> The idea that Michael Nolles and Charlie. could still be in a goolog on Alba is. like, "No, no, no. We got to wipe him. off. He's still a threat. He's still. breathing, right? >> We don't get the vacation to Alba.". That's probably true. That's probably. true. Agreed. Agreed. And of course, Charlie was not speaking. about Pete Hegsath. He was not speaking. about Donald Trump. And that was not. what he was thinking. And yet, his words.

carry weight, especially because he was. assassinated by, in my my opinion, I'm allowed to have an. opinion, the Epstein class, put him. killed Charlie Kirk, set up his. assassination. That's that's my. viewpoint. I don't believe Tyler. Robinson did it alone on a rooftop. And. you do not want to empower the Epstein. class to go around and commit executions. based on uh what they deem to be worthy. of live streaming these executions. It's.

so dark and Epstein coded and it made me. sick with this evening of debate. But. yes, uh tell you quickly, Trump did. issue a truth social post where he. established that uh Nidal Malik Hassan, who was the former US Army major turned. traitor, um would not be executed. It. would not be live streamed. And he wrote. a long post. He said he was scum. Uh but. there are well-meaning people who would. rather not watch him die. Also, he's. parapolgic. I don't know how that's. going to play on TV. why why people are.

like suddenly wanting to watch that. If. you were a person who uh maybe was. related to someone who was killed by. him, you might say, "I I I want to watch. him die.". But just generally, people like, you. know, Andrew Wilson, oh, I can't wait to. watch. Yeah, I bet you can't wait to. watch. This is like a state sponsored. snuff pornography. It's it was very. weird to me to hear people just. clamoring to watch somebody's soul leave. their body. Like it's it's a disturbing.

place that we're at in America where. that's even a debate. And like I said, it is not a theological question because. we don't live in a theocracy. Anyway, um. he did acknowledge in his truth social. post, Donald Trump said that the. execution can be viewed by people in the. immediate family um of the victims if. they so choose because they deserve to. witness it if they want to. And that's. all. We'll leave it at that. We'll be. right back after a break. All right, you guys. We all know that.

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Sound logic. It needs to collapse. Mento. writes, "If it wasn't for digging into. all of the background of all of this, we. wouldn't even know how all of these dots. connect." Yes. Um, there have been. others obviously who have been just as. consistent, staying focused, not jumping. into all the riff raff. A lot of times. you see people on X like everyone's like. fighting and it's like just help. investigate or don't. And um that's why. obviously I I selected Baron Coleman to. take over the show because he has been. focused and he's been up to it and.

everything and we have been information. sharing in the background um for quite. some time now. But it's um you can't. ignore it. Talk about the elephant. clipping in the room. You can't ignore. all of these ties. It's absolutely. bizarre. And they just think they're. going to get out of it by just knowing. powerful people, calling people demonic. How do you call me demonic when this is. who you're aligned with? These are these. are the crimes that you're trying to. pretend are not happening that are. tangental to Turning Point USA. It it.

doesn't work. And we're going to keep. going. And people, we're not going to. sit here and be silenced by lawsuits. Ignore the Epstein class taking over or. we're going to bankrupt you. Like, no. My children are not growing up in this. This is not going to happen. This This. is This doesn't work for me. I'm sorry. Um, uh, comments from today's episode. We have TJ Kurt who writes, "We love. Baron, but my wife and I are definitely. going to have serious can withdrawal. during your absence. Enjoy the time with. your growing family. You are very. sweet." And he will do a great job. And.

I'll pop in here and there. I'm sure. there's going to be stories that I can't. stay away from. So, I'll just strap the. baby to my chest and come down here. Anyway, Lindsay Colom writes, "Amazed at. how so many incredibly rare life. choices, career decisions, risks taken, and experience points earned that took. place to set you into the position that. you're currently in. It is so clearly. divinely inspired. This is your life's. purpose, and I think that you understand. that." I do look back and I think about. how everywhere I was, there was. something that I needed to see that. brought me to this point. And that's why.

I reflect on Charlie knowing he was. going to die and me not taking him. seriously. And I think that I was. intentionally blinded because if I had. not been blinded, I wouldn't have gone. to work for Prageru. I wouldn't have. gone to work for the Daily Wire. I see. them totally differently now. And so I. feel like my eyes were opened at the. exact right moment to then reflect and. to know things about how things work. So. I can instantly call BS. Like I was at. Turning Point USA and I instantly I was. going, "This is weird. Why is this. happening? This is not how the these. events go." So the journey I mean always. for all all of us is divinely inspired.

but I do reflect sometimes and I I am in. awe of it. Uh Melissa B writes, "It's so. interesting that we haven't seen any of. the never-before-seen Charlie episodes. that Erica and her henchmen were. bragging about. Candace, we pray God. speed delivery and healing over you. May. the Lord bless you and keep you." Thank. you very much, Melissa. And yeah, it is. interesting. Some of the stuff they were. saying was just stupid. They were like. neverbeforeseen. speeches. Like what do you mean? like. who was he speaking to like talking to. himself in the mirror like got to be. seen by somebody. It's a speech and I do.

think they were going to employ AI. Charlie. It was I mean they were having. discussions with people that do that. kind of stuff. Like what were those. meetings about? It's weird. There are so. many different rabbit holes that you. could chase. Um and I do want to chase. them all but I know that I can't and I. just try to stay focused on September. 10th and the information that we are. gathering and there just seems to be. never ending. But there is a picture. that is emerging. Brie Love Grove. writes, "You accidentally sent me an. extra. This is my second favorite.

shirt." And now I'm confused about which. one is actually my second favorite. Oh, I did not know that we did that. Gift it to somebody. That's what you. have to do. And then it's both your. second favorite shirts. It was meant to. happen. Give it to somebody else who. watches the podcast and tell them I said. thank you. Brooke Evans writes, "Can I. have shared your podcast with so many. people who now watch your show? I deeply. respect your pursuit of truth and how. your faith guides it. You shine light on. the deranged people of power who go. unchecked. Love from Houston. Jesus is. king. Go Max. That's very, very sweet,

Brooke. And you know, I like I said, I. will never stop thanking you guys for. getting me through a tough year. I I. feel like myself again. I'm going to. feel more like myself when this baby. drops. Drop the baby. He's he's now. taking over my body. And um it's it's. become very extreme. So um hopefully. that will happen soon. Pray for that. Nurse, it will happen soon. I mean, there's no there's never been anybody. that's been pregnant forever, right? Never happened. someone just was. actually pregnant forever because I know. that all women who are pregnant when you. get to the end the last four weeks you. think no I'm going to be the one person.

that was just pregnant forever for the. rest of my life and that's how I feel. right now. Nurse B writes 13 months ago. I would have given you the time of day. I would not have given you the time of. day but something changed for me. I. think the loyalty to your friend the. pursuit of truth is the something. Even. when I am doing the medical I never miss. an episode. Gomez, were you doing the. medical today? Somebody in the comments. was like, "Could you imagine if you went. to the dentist and he was like, "Okay, I'm going to do the teeth." It's It's. just so absurd to think that Brian.

Harpull, who I worked with and who I. know and who is an idiot. Okay, he is an. idiot, uh, was the person that was in. control or that Mikey McCoy was the. general. Mikey McCoy I could believe. more than Brian Harpole. But it's like. if you are going to pretend that you are. barking orders at nurses and doctors and. telling them what sort of medicine to. give Charlie, please don't say doing the. medical. I don't ask for much, right? I. I ask for a little bit more eloquence. than that.

CPTNS0. writes, "The bloodied bag was offered to. Shawn Ryan. Shawn declined it because he. thought it was weird." No, that's Brian. Harpull's bag. That's totally different. And again, this the Tyler Clancy story. is that the officer did throw out the. bag and it matches Frank Turk's. I'm. sure obviously that it would make sense. that Brian got some blood on him when he. was doing the medical. Uh, but I think.

that these are two separate bags and. that Brian had nothing to do with the. police officer story, which we are still. proddding. So, if you know, you have any. information pertaining to Tyler Clancy, uh, we would like to hear it. Any more. information that you feel that we should. know, as I said, we already went out to. him for comment before we published. We. will let you know what we hear back from. Governor Cox's office. You know, more. information about Governor Cox and. promotions. I did see one in my inbox, which we will report on next week. Another promotion, timely promotion that. came in October, um, that was tangential.

to Charlie on the 10th. Um, please email. us more tips@candice.com. And we still still. are looking for information. I'm going to have to put a bounty up on. it, aren't I? Uh, information pertaining. to who the fire captain was, who. performed CPR on Charlie when he arrived. to the hospital. Met them at the. hospital. According to the UVU. Independent Review, um, there was a fire.

captain. I'd like to know who that fire. captain was. We learned from the report. that they were from fire station 2, I. believe. Don't quote me on that, but. something two, I think. I think it was. it was fire station 2 in Oram. Um maybe. it was Provo. But the point is is we. don't know who that fire captain is who. performed CPR. And we find it to be very. odd that neither Frank Turk in his many. iterations of what happened um nor Brian.

Harpole in his super fantastic story of. all that he did. Mentioned a fire. captain who gave CPR. I am told that. this information is intentionally. being hushed and I can't figure out why. cuz that person would be a hero. You. tried to save Charlie Kirk's life. I. can't figure out why they are trying to. keep this information locked down. So, please email us if you know more tips at. canones.com. Again, we want someone with. direct knowledge, not people that are. guessing based off of research. Um, I.

don't think that's that's going to help. us at this stage. So, yeah, we'll leave. it at that. You know what to do if you. want to support us. Merch on the. website. You can look fly. Go to. canson.com. If you do by accident get. two second favorite shirt, you can give. it to a friend gang gang. You wear it at. the same time. It's both of your second. favorite shirts. I don't know what your. first favorite shirt is, but that's your. second one. You can buy a CIA hat. The. hunter green ones are really great for.

the fall. I look great in that hunter. green one. In fact, maybe I'll wear it. tomorrow for book club. We do have book. club tomorrow, by the way. Um, as we. continue reading the book, I don't know. why I can. Bearing false witness. Skyler. to the rescue. Trying to make up for. what Skyler did, which will never be. forgotten. We all know what Skyler did. We all know. what Skylar does. We all know what. Skyler's going to do. Anyway, we'll see. you guys on Monday.