Liar, Liar, TPUSA On Fire? More Exclusive Footage From 9/10. | Ep 377

All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday to. everyone except the people who think. that we need positive evidence to share. our opinions and cannot comprehend why. that's patently ridiculous. Like, I I. think granola is delicious when I'm. pregnant. Where's your positive evidence. for that? We can just say what we think, put ideas together. And as stated. yesterday, there must be a sentence. handed down from the Court of Candace. for Turning Point USA's misdemeanor. offense. They ran a fowl of CO code.

92784, colluding with debate bro slobs. to attack me, violating my personal. space, ignoring the rules, having the. permanent creep Steven Crowder sneak his. CEO into my home to join uh Steven's. show from my children's playroom without. my consent, without my knowledge. None. of that can be tolerated under the. current law that we have on the books.

And we all know what their punishment. is. That's what their punishment always. is. I am the magistrate. Therefore, the. judge and the jury, they have been. sentenced to what they hate the most. More truth. Welcome back to Candace. Get ready because it's another big one. It is explosive.

We have something to share. It's never. been seen. Our favorite. But first, we. have to jog your memory of whence we. came. And I want you to lock in and. really pay attention to the details. They they matter. So, I'm going to ask. you the question. What was the original. moment that made people suspicious of. what happened on September 10th? What. was the the first thing that you saw. online that made your eyebrow raise, so. to speak? I would offer that it was when Terrell.

Farnsworth, Turning Point USA's audio. and visual lead, he runs Visual Impulse, was seen taking down the cameras, particularly actually taking down one. camera, the camera behind Charlie's. head. And this turned out was less than. four minutes after Charlie was hit. We. know he went up uh and he recorded. himself. He announced that Charlie was. dead. He went down and he began removing. that camera in particular. Before.

anybody knew who he was, people I knew. who he was, but the rest of the world. just went, "What's going on? Why Why are. we violating a crime scene? Why is. somebody moving a chair that Charlie was. just sitting in to stand up and take. that camera down?". And I actually should be honest, unlike. the rest of the world, I was not. immediately suspicious because I knew. Terl. You'll recall this, right? I. reached out to him. I've known him for. years and I said, "What's up?" I assumed. that there had to be some sort of a. reasonable explanation. That.

conversation took place to remind you on. September 18th. Reached out to Terl, got him on the. phone, was expecting something simple, and instead it was the phone call itself. that made me feel suspicious. I went to. my team, something is wrong. I've gone. over this moment to you guys so many. times. It's because Terrell was nervous. He was offering me various increasingly. bizarre reasons as to why he could not. show me the back footage. People thought.

maybe the back footage caught the person. from a crowd that was, you know, shot. Charlie. And I just said, "Okay, let me. see it." Um, and he said he didn't want. to share it because he didn't want Erica. to see Charlie get hit in 4K. And I. said, "Okay, doesn't need to be shared. You can just tell me and I'll tell. audiences that I saw it and everything's. okay." And the craziest part of all was. him telling me, again, you'll recall. because I said this to you right when it. happened specifically. that he did not know how to send the.

file to me. I said, "Just send it to me. I'll watch it. Obviously, I won't share. it." And he said, "I don't know how to. send the file." And I said, "Parl, you. run an AV company. What do you mean you. don't know how to send a file?" And then. he admitted that he did know how to send. a file, but he didn't want to do it for. fear that Google might hack him. Go. back, watch the episodes. That's what he. said. I've got proof that Google might. hack him. What? But you see, it turns out that now we.

know that Terl lied to me. Terrell's a. liar. I sensed it then. Yes, I had an. immediate intuition that Terrell was. lying to me, that he maybe did know how. to send a file, but he wasn't actually. fearful that Google might hack him. They. keep telling us our our intuition means. nothing, right? But guess what? My. intuition and vibe in that matter has. been proven correct. It was confirmed. when the preliminary hearing took place. Actually, you may have missed it. I'll. slow that down for you. Uh the lead. investigator on the case, SBI agent.

David Hull, explained on the stand, actually um on September 10th, so that. would be 8 days before I spoke to. Terrell. Actually, on the very day of the. assassination, Terrell apparently did. know how to send footage. And he chose. to do that via a Google link. He used the very company that he would. then tell me 8 days later he was afraid. was going to hack him. That makes.

Terrell a liar. He lied to me. I don't. like when people lie to me. And like I said, there is entirely no. dispute that he lied to me about his. fear of a Google hack because he. actually signed and submitted an 1102. statement to that effect. He was entered. in and discussed uh during the hearing. We can show you this statement from. Terrell. Um and it tells us and I'm. going to read the first part first that. on on September 10th, I Terrell, the. first person here, was present at the.

Turning Point USA Utah Valley University. event. Myself and my team were there to. provide audio vis video video equipment. setup management and support as we had. done for Mr. Charlie Kirk for years. Our. camera setup consisted of three angles. An angle directly on Charlie, an angle. on the individual asking questions and a. wider angle behind Charlie that showed. the audience and the crowd reaction. Okay, so a wider angle behind Charlie.

that showed the audience and the crowd. reaction. That day on September 10th, I provided. SBI with four videos through a Google. Drive. And then you see the link and he. tells you what those videos are labeled. Okay. And then he says, "These videos. were um taken by me and my team at the. UVU event on September 10th, 2005. These. videos as they were provided to SBI are. a true and correct representation of.

what took place at UVU. Okay. Now, let's understand that first portion. first. He says that there are four. videos that he sent to them. He says. that there are three cameras. I want you. to remember which cameras we saw around. Charlie generally speaking. Um, now. there is one moving camera that I want. to point out which may potentially be. the fourth camera uh which was operated. by a guy that seemed to be floating from. side to side. I'm going to show you.

that. I'm again assuming this might have. been a contractor and maybe Terl got. that footage from him and he was going. from side to side. You remember him? U. but the more pertinent ones are the. three static cameras that he is. representing in his statement that he. was operating. Here are the here is the. diagram of those static cameras, the. three shots. Now, we have one to the. front left side of Charlie that is being. operated by Robert Golo. Um, and um, in. theory, I would say that it is actually.

the camera that is circled in blue right. there. Um, the yellow one is operated by. Robert Golo. That's the one that he is. going to be facing the person that's. asking questions. The one that is in. blue is the one that I would say would. carry the most critical graphic uplose. evidence of Charlie Kirk being shot. Right? That's the one that was being. operated by uh Jordan Wilson. In other. words, if I were trying to gather. evidence very quickly within minutes of. Charlie Kirk being shot, I'd go blue.

That's an opinion. I'm saying were I in. control of the AV department and I was. trying to be useful to police, I'd. probably grab that footage as critical. evidence. And then I would grab that. footage of what's circled in yellow, which we just discussed. Um, that is, as. he described, pointing to the person. that's asking questions. We know that. that has some rotating capability. I'd. probably grab that one second, right? If.

you're trying to help detectives secure. the best footage to scan the crowd, since that is the crowd footage, as he. demonstrated, potentially to find a. shooter in the crowd, I'd go, "Okay, number two." One, two. I'm trying to be. useful. But that third camera. to me, if I'm running this event, is. instantly the most irrelevant because A, it's facing downward. B, it's behind. Charlie. And traditionally, in case you're wondering or need. reminding, all it showed was a view of.

what was happening below and around. Charlie's feet and captured some. audience, right? But not more than the. yellow camera is going to capture. The. red camera, if you want to capture the. audience, you go with the yellow. And the reason why I'm saying. traditionally that is what it showed is. because there was a massive discovery. from YouTuber Nissi when she realized. that Terl Farnsworth when he finally did. show me the completely non-graphic. footage from behind Charlie's head.

presented to me what appeared to her to. be a zoomedin shot from that camera. This is important that we go back and we. revisit what it is that Nissi uh caught. about that camera. Take a listen. In. this footage that Ter has selectively. shared with Candace, we can't see the. ground where Charlie had been sitting. You're probably thinking, "Okay, so. what?" Well, I'll tell you what.

Actually, I'll show [snorts] you what. On February 28th, 2025, the American. Comeback Tour did a stop at Florida. State University. And here is the back. camera shot. On March 3rd, 2025, the. American Comeback Tour did a stop at the. University of Southern California. And. here is the back camera shot. Here's San. Francisco. Here's San Diego, Long Beach, Boise, Idaho, Washington State. Do you. notice a pattern? The camera is a wide.

angle camera and was always used as. such. However, in the footage that Tero. has selectively shared with Candace, you. cannot see the ground. So, either that. day at UVU, they had changed things up. and they had zoomed in the camera so. that you couldn't see the area around. Charlie or Terrell had zoomed in after. the fact and he was showing a cropped. version of the footage to Candace.

Why did Terrell do that? Now, we've already demonstrated from. Terl's 1102 statement that he's willing. to lie to me. So, I don't think we can. go directly to him and ask that. question. We're going to have to. continue to prod this narrative on our. own to join uh Nissi. She raises an. important question. Did Terrell do this. after the fact? When did he do this? because what we learn is compelling from. Agent Hull that on September 10th, Terrell did not give them the SD cards. So, we see him, we're gonna show you him.

race to take down that camera to then. take the SD card out of that camera. And. our assumption was that he handed that. over to the FBI that was in charge of. the investigation. But Hull is going to testify that no, Terl gave them a flash drive. This means. that Terl. inserted that SD card into a computer. and then copied the footage onto a flash. drive and similarly created Google.

links. Even though days later he'd be. concerned that Google might hack him. Initially, he gave them Google links but. not the original SD card. Why? Why not. hand the direct SD card over to the. FBI's lead investigator? I mean, did did. Terl think that they were not equipped. with knowledge of how to use an SD card? Even I am and I'm terrible at. technology. But let's listen to Agent. Hull's testimony because actually it's. kind of absurd to consider that. >> Agent Hull, any more video did you. collected or either you or another agent.

with the SBA? Yes, we were able to. collect video. Um TPUSA had a. videographer. uh Visual Impulse um who was taking. coverage of the event and they provided. video to us that they had captured on. September 10th of 2025. >> And do you know who or how that video. was collected from Visual Impulse? >> Yeah, Mr. Farnsworth originally. provided, I believe, a flash drive to. Lieutenant O'Brien with one of the local.

agencies. And a short time after that, on. September 10th, he provided um. downloadable versions, electronic. versions to Agent Mortonson. And um an 11:02 was collected from him. on May 6th of 2026. Not the SD card, though. So, when the. footage began going viral, the clip of. Terl taking down those that camera in.

particular, people online, I think. rightfully speculated that there must. have been something really important. about that back footage behind Charlie's. head specifically. And then people were. gas lit. We were told no, there was. nothing unique about that camera. There. was nothing unique about that footage in. particular. Terrell actually grabbed all. of the footage and he did so because. people were stealing and people are evil. which we then said our common sense went. that doesn't really make sense because. if he was worried about people stealing. like wouldn't he be concerned with the.

camera it was just the SD card that he. took out. it was Andrew Kulvette who offered that. excuse by the way to Tucker Carlson. again would like to remind you here is. what he said. >> so Charlie was very well aware of the. existence of evil Obviously, you know, there's a By the way, just one. other conspiracy theory I just want to. snuff out here. One of our dear friends. that literally from the very beginning. started with us and loved Charlie like a.

brother. He grabbed the SD cards out of. the camera afterwards. And there's all. these conspiracy videos about why did he. grab the SD cards? Well, first of all, they're in the possession of the FBI. Okay? It's not like he took them and. like ran off with them. Second of all, I. asked him personally. I said, "Why did. you do that?" And he looked at me and. this was his answer. He said, "Because I. know people can be evil.". >> O. >> and he did not want that footage being. grabbed by somebody. There was videos of. people after the incident going and.

stealing hats off the table. >> I mean, so I'm so grateful he did that. and that that was his instinct. He's. like, "I'm depressed to know that that. was why I did that, but I knew that I. had to protect that footage because I. know I wanted I mean, you know, you're. recording in like 4K, you know, and so. I'm so glad he did that. It's beautiful. It's really beautiful. I'd like to He just He said, "Because I. know people can be evil.".

Let me try that again. Because I know people can be evil. Okay, one more time. I just want to give with. as much passion as Andrew did. I took the SD cards because I know. people can be evil. Beautiful. Beautiful. Really, the Academy Award. goes to you, Andrew. But you said cards. And what we noticed was that it was. card. It was that one first. It struck. me and others as odd. But here is Andrew.

reinforcing the narrative that this is a. conspiracy theory. There was nothing. special about that particular footage. behind Terl's head. He was actually. worried about all of it. But actually, if you keep reading Terrell's 1102. statement, it flies in the face of what. Andrew has said. There was something. unique about the footage behind. Charlie's head. There had to be. something particular about that footage. which moved Terl or maybe someone in the. FBI, but I I we it's not clear to create.

a clip out of only the footage behind. Terrell's head. I mean, behind Charlie's. head, just that back footage. We're. going to read the rest of the statement. Okay. Terrell said, Terrell writes in. the statement, and we can pull up that. statement if you guys have it. It reads, "Regarding the clip, which has been. labeled 80704, turning point footage of the crowd and. behind Charlie, I have reviewed and from. what I can see, it is a true and correct. representation of a portion of the.

larger files previously sent to SBI.". So, let me slow that down for you. because it's very important. What we are. learning is that they had four videos. Go pull that back up, please. And you. can split this. They had four videos in. total. And you can bring me in on this. just so I can explain this. And of those. four videos, they're telling us the. length of each of those videos here. One. is 26 minutes, another one is 26. minutes, another is 26 minutes, and a. fourth one is 23 minutes. So that I'm. guessing assuming represents because.

this um Charlie got hit very quickly. into the event that this represents the. full length of all of that footage of. the cameras that I showed you. Despite. having all of that footage, they decided. to clip from the camera behind Charlie's. head a a special clip. And that is what. Terrell is saying, you know, uh, to I I. I believe this is a true representation. of the footage that was recorded. Why. did they need to clip out the from the.

full footage of that camera, just a. little threeinut clip? That's the. question. Okay. So, we can what we can. discern from this is that for whatever. reason, of all the camera footage that. was provided across four cameras, only. one of the four cameras that had. footage, they felt they needed to turn into a. clip. Like I said, we're not sure if. Terl clipped it or if it was SBI that. clipped it. We do know that Terrell was. the first to touch that footage, and we. do know that the footage wound up.

clipped. And Terrell is testifying in a. statement that from what he can see, it. appears to be a true and correct. representation. of the portion of the larger files. Now, the way that he is phrasing that is. interesting, a true and correct. representation because it would still be. true and correct. u it would still be a true and correct. representation. if it was zoomed in. We learned that. during the whole back and forth. regarding 12.1 and 12.4 before um in the. courtroom when they were debating. They.

got to see zoomed-in footage, but they. were like, "This is still a true. representation of what happened. We're. just zooming in and making some. circles." So, Terl is basically saying. it's still a true representation. It's. plausible that the only reason they. would have to clip that out is because. it was zoomed in. You would have to. create a new clip if you were zooming it. in. You couldn't just run that in the. entire content. So, again, I want to. underscore what I'm saying to you here, okay? you would have to clip the footage. in order to zoom it. I am making the. case based on Terrell's 1102 that the.

footage behind Charlie's head was. specifically clipped. And I'm also going. to make the case that contrary to what. Andrew Kovat is saying, there was some. something special about that footage. behind Charlie's head. and terrible. belines to it in particular. And he was. nervous about that footage in particular. because he did not instantly grab all of. the SD cards. He grabbed that one and he. did it nervously. That's what people.

saw. He was looking around to see who. was watching him as he took only the SD. card from that camera before he. disappears behind the tent. Let's watch. that together. Here. he is. Here he is. He's taking down the camera alto. together. If you're worried about theft, take the whole camera. It's pretty.

small. It's in your hand. He doesn't do. that. He takes it apart and he takes the. SD card out. and he looks around. He wants to see. who's looking at him. And then. he looks down at it and he walks around. And we had wondered what did Terrell do. when he walked around. He hasn't. addressed any other camera there, just. that one.

Well, you don't have to wonder what he. did anymore because today I can tell you. what Terrell did because I've actually. known what Terrell did since October. Um, as I was wondering who could be. trusted at Turning Point USA and like I. said to you instantly, there was a. network of government employees that. were fighting to get the truth out and. wondering who they could trust as well. And um now appears to be the moment.

to not tell you what Terrell did, but to. rather show you and let you draw your. own conclusions about whether Terl. appeared concerned about anything other. than that particular footage. Okay, here. is what Ter did thereafter. seen for the. first time. Terl is there.

He looks around again nervously. and he puts. the SD card in his pocket and he zips. up. He doesn't run to the other cameras. and try to grab the SD card. Instead, what he does is he whips out his phone. and he begins texting with someone. And that's what he does. He's texting. with someone to say what? Who's he texting?

What's he saying? If he's just out there fighting evil and. worried about securing the footage, why. didn't he grab the other SD card or. three of them in a row? Who is he in communication with after he. grabs that? Because I got to tell you something, Andrew. Were it me and I was a amongst uh my. peers sitting on a jury, I would not. accept your narrative that he looks like.

he's worried about people stealing. Not about the hats, not about the other. footage, um not about the cameras. It looks to me like, and again, this is. my opinion, it it looks to me like he's. completing a task and checking in with. someone to say that a task is completed. Maybe I don't know. I'm open to. everything. Maybe there was some police. officer who told him to take that. footage in particular.

I'm told that didn't happen. And I will say this that when someone. demonstrates that they are capable of. lying to you, you have a right to take. note. And Terrell lied to me. He lied to. me about his fears regarding Google. It is therefore my opinion on the basis. of basis of everything that we are. observing. with our eyes. Everything that I am. observing with my two eyes, his. mannerisms,

um the beline to that footage so quickly. within four or five minutes as if that. had to be secured. The 11:02 statement. where we know that that footage in. particular was clipped. I'm I'm. speculating because it was zoomed in. The questions that Kathy Netor asked. thereafter um things that she asserted. about they don't know whether or not. that footage was edited. Your claim that. the FBI has it? Why? It's a Utah case.

Why would the FBI have the SD cards? when I observe everything with my eyes. again, I don't think they're going to. call me for jury duty in Utah, but it demonstrates to me that that. footage was prioritized. So now the. question is why? It was zoomed in and if Nissi is correct. and this was unusual and knew that that. footage would be zoomed in, then the.

only thing that would be accomplished by. that sort of a crop and a zoomin would. be not showing us what happened below. Charlie. But I need that footage. I'm being sued. by Brian Harpole. I'm going to need that footage. I'm. going to trace that footage and to be. able to understand the custody of that. footage and whether or not as Kathy. Netor is asking it was edited before it.

was given um via Google link or via a. flash drive to the FBI. And I'm genuinely asking questions here, but why did Terl tell me that he spoke. with Erica about that footage. specifically? Again, he was lying a lot. on that phone call. I don't So, I can't. assert that he was telling the truth, but I do know and I have proof that. that's what he told me. And why did. Turning Point USA gaslight us about the. significance of the footage? Now, we can. read the case and see that there was. something about that footage that.

required something different. than the other cameras and the other. videos that were running. Significant. enough for the FBI to create a. specialized clip from it or Terl to. create a specialized clip from it. Why. continually gaslight the public into. believing otherwise? Pretending there's. nothing interesting there. Carol just. violated a crime scene to secure it. because he was worried about evil. because people can be evil.

Is the SD card still in his right pant. pocket? Andrew, Carol, anybody? You say. it was given to the FBI. Okay. Well, why. state crime? The FBI under the law is. allowed to assist, but they don't have. jurisdiction over. the crime over the state. In all. practicality, the FBI should have been. handed the SD card and then if they. wanted to, they could have handed it off. to the FBI, but that should have been.

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It's for USA residents only. So many things that I know. And um I. think the the biggest thing is don't. send a slob to my house and don't do. that. Please don't do that again. Especially when I am pregnant with a. boy. Um it's deeply upsetting to me. It's unnecessary. Andrew, Erica in. particular, um you guys are really. starting to partner with people who are. interested in trying to psychologically.

uh go after me and my family, torment. us, publishing things about my. children's cars and the vehicles that. they travel in. I I think you should. stop doing that. If I could just put. something in the suggestion box, just. just call off the dogs or don't and we. can keep having fun. Anyway, um speaking. of this totally inappropriate chain of. custody, the FBI uh jumping on the case. like cowboys, it's not that's not how. this works. Actually, they are supposed. to be um used because your tax dollars.

pay for these things when there is a. case that obviously uh violates federal. law. If it's happening on federal. property, you don't get to have cowboy. cashel just go, I'm just gonna come and. bring everybody with me and take over. the whole case and evidence. Yes. Uh the. State Bureau of Investigations, as you. saw, can reach out to the FBI and help. ask them to assist with certain testing. and things of that nature, but the. custody goes FBI and then FBI. So why the FBI interjected so quickly is.

in and of itself kind of a conspiracy. There was a man named John Kirao who is. a former CIA officer. who had a conscience back in 2007 during. the quote unquote war on terror. He. became a terror. he became a government. whistleblower about um how some of the. terrorists were um being tortured. Anyway, John Kuraku went on to the Danny. Jones podcast and here is what he had to.

say about the FBI's involvement in the. Charlie Kirk case. Why is the FBI. involved in this? Charlie Kirk was. killed in Utah by a kid from Utah who. left his house in Utah, drove to the. university in Utah and allegedly shot. Charlie Kirk. Nobody ever crossed a. state line. There's literally nothing in. this case that would make it federal. >> unless there was a conspiracy.

in which case it would be a federal case. and the FBI would be involved. So, Cash. Patel was asked this early on and he. said, "We're just offering the FBI's. expertise to the Utah State Police.". Like, really? Is that just what it is? Because offering your expertise means. sticking stuff in a FedEx and sending it. to Utah so they can do with it what they. want. Or maybe you put one FBI, you. know, lab person at their disposal. Mhm.

>> You don't have the FBI director fly out. there with a with a plane load of FBI. agents. It's not a federal case. >> I don't understand. He is correct. This is unusual and you. have a right to feel that this is very. suspicious. You have a right to ask. questions as I demonstrated um in my. back forth with Andrew Wilson. you have. a right to look at this and go, "Hey, it's very strange that Cash Patel.

apparently shut down um Joe Kent who. wanted to investigate whether or not. there are foreign ties. If there are no. foreign ties, then why would you have an. issue with people investigating those. non-existent foreign ties?" And then. when people say, "Hey, I think there's. foreign ties." You gaslight them and say. you have no you have no positive. evidence. How could we have positive. evidence when the department that's. supposed to find that positive evidence. is told, "Don't do that." And then we. had Turning Point USA who's upset with. the person who wanted to investigate. those ties but not upset with Cash Patel. going to events with Cash Patel. Dressed.

up your buddy buddy. People are starting. to notice that all of this does feel and. look like a conspiracy. Were the players. involved? We don't know. Uh but as I. said as um they were intentionally. trying to trip me into a lawsuit. You. can see they're all salivating for me to. be sued. Turning point sewer. Turning. point sew her. Turning point sewer. Take. her money. Take her money. Shut her. down. Bankrupt her. Charlie Kirk got. killed and she cares and she won't let. it go. Bankrupt her. Bankrupt her. Okay.

Well, guess what? People are taking. notice of that being odd as well. You're. going after the people who are. investigating it and you're becoming. increasingly more vicious in how you do. it. You are spending a lot of money to. do it. You are lying on record, getting. caught in lies and then gaslighting us. by saying you don't have a right to. recognize those li you recognize those. lies. You have no right to recognize. those lies. It's demonic for you to. notice them. It's not working. And this is this has gone mainstream.

obviously um and it is being discussed. on the biggest platforms in the world. whether that's Shawn Ryan or more. recently Joe Rogan who had a laugh. alongside his guests Mark Normand, Shane. Gillis and Ari Schaefer as they were. discussing the Tyler Robinson case and. the odd and increasingly odd public. relations campaign that is surrounding. ing Erica Kirk. Take a listen.

>> I get it. Wearing that mask for a little. bit though, I genuinely both Duncan and. I both gained respect for the furries. >> Yeah, but then they shoot the president. >> Nah, I don't know if that guy a furry. >> No, he loved a furry. >> Oh, he loved a furry. So, >> yeah, but I'm not even sure if that's. true. >> The more the more time goes on, the more. I'm leaning towards Candace Owens. >> I don't think any story that you hear in. the news is accurate. I think there's. always none or spin on it at least. >> There's always some spin. But whatever. the spin is, whatever the spin is about.

Tyler Robinson, there's some to. it. I don't know how much of how much of. his but there's some bull. One. of the more recent is they. found a photo that they were saying was. Tyler Robinson, but then people noticed. that the the because he's real thin. People noticed that the cars in the. background, the proportions were. distorted, and then they realized that. what they had done was taken a guy who's. like much wider than Tyler Robinson and. shrunken the perspective. >> Really? >> Yep. Yep. And then when you see him for. what he really looks like, you're like, "Oh, there's no way that's that guy.

That guy's big.". >> And then you're like, "Well, it's mostly. true." Like, no. Shifting. >> No. No. They they changed like you look. at the hood of the cars behind him. They're all like that. Now, >> who is that guy? >> What guy? >> Tyler Robinson. >> He was the guy who supposedly shot. Charlie Kirk. >> Kirk. Yeah. Not Not the president. >> Did you ever see Juski's uh America. Kirk? >> Yeah. I thought it was threatening him. They were going to sue him for that. >> I don't know. It was funny. would have been the best thing that ever. happened to him. When he came out, he. starts doing cartwheels and with white. face on. [laughter]. >> White face.

>> He's killing that guy. Every video kills. when he goes to NASCAR. >> Unbelievable. >> Funny dude. >> Funny dude. People that got upset with. that. Shut up. >> I know. >> You don't think it's weird the lady. comes out to sparkers behind her? You're. out of your That's insane. >> I know. >> You don't think someone can make fun of. that? She walks out like Randy Orton. [laughter]. Goldberg coming out. She's going out like Undertaker. >> The queen wore black for 80 years. Crazy. >> In interview she dresses like like Seal.

Team Six. She's all blacked out with. like a black hat and everything. >> She's serious, bro. >> She's serious. >> Are cool. >> She's serious. [laughter]. >> You just have to love guy chat. just. that's exactly exactly how everyone is. speaking behind the scenes and you just. have to love Joe Rogan for having the. courage to just have a boy chat publicly. which everyone's relating to and. laughing to except for Turning Point USA. because this has been their PR strategy. this bizarre strategy to go after the.

comedians for noticing to go after. people for noticing for trying to entrap. them into lawsuits by by sending D-list. debater bros who know nothing about the. case for trying to investigate the case. I it's it's it's backward. The best. thing that they could have done would. have been to say and do nothing for at. least a year rather than partnering with. Charlie's enemies. Uh saying that his. friends were enemies and uh that his.

enemies were friends. Uh it none of this. is making any sense. And we have now. reached peak comedy with people now just. leaning into it and mocking it. And. somehow they continued to go after me as. if I were not here, this conspiracy. would somehow stop. I'd like to remind. everybody I was the last to comment. publicly about the strange behavior of. Erica Kirk and I only weighed in. beginning in December when she went on. to a press tour and explicitly shared.

something that was untrue that the night. before Charlie was not sending messages. saying that he feared for his life. So, we are to believe that. Charlie did not share his fear with his. wife at all the night before. When she. says he was just so excited to do what. he's always done, so excited to go to. UVU, he couldn't sleep. Maybe he. couldn't sleep because he thought he was. going to be killed. That that makes more sense to me. Never known Charlie to to not sleep over. a tour stop of a place that he's already.

been. I just it just this is not a. thing. But maybe he down the line just. became so excited about going to tour. stops that he couldn't sleep, was eating. in the middle of the night. It's not adding up. Anyway, another. video I want to show you. Yesterday I. was telling you about this account at. whereforbidden. They are just brilliant. I mean, talk about somebody who has the. creative force within them. They have. dropped a new Erica Kirk video and it.

might be my favorite. I don't know. It's. hard to tell. Uh, take a listen. Erica, what are you doing out here? >> Shabbat shalom. I CHOOSE YOU. PICKLE. PUP. >> Positive evidence. >> Oh, you've got to be kidding me. >> Positive evidence. >> Pickle Puff attack. >> Positive evidence. Positive evidence. >> Pickle Puff, do something. >> Positive evidence. This was a terrible.

investment. >> Positive evidence. >> Who is that Pokemon? >> It's Shapiro. [laughter]. >> It's just absolutely. brilliant stuff. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant stuff. The comedy that is. coming out right now, again, like I. said, uh we have reached critical mass. with this self with with this. And so. setting up these influencers and wasting. money doesn't work. just sit down, have.

a full conversation. I mean, it's just. so easy. Like I said, there obviously, not just could be, there are likely a. ton of things that we have gotten wrong. as we have pursued this investigation. Um, and I'm saying when I say we, I'm. referring to all of the investigators, independent investigators, whether that. be Nissi, Baron Coleman, uh, Ian Carol, uh, you know, Coach Colin. Sure, I'm sure we have made some errors, but we did not make them knowingly. and. we wish to correct them if we did make.

them. And the best way to solve this is. to just sit down and be honest. You. know, I actually taught a great lesson. yesterday or or last week in my debate. when we turned Andrew Wilson by the end. of it into a conspiracy theorist who. thought that I was receiving text. messages on my phone uh to remind me of. what the charges were and then thought. that I must have been receiving them. through Signal or through Telegram. What. did I do? At first, I said I said, "Here's my phone. If there's no conspiracy, there's no. conspiracy. Transparency is the best way.

to debunk any and every conspiracy, if. that's what you call them, alternative. theories. Um, I demonstrated that. You. have nothing to hide. You have nothing. to hide. So, I don't understand why. Turning Point won't engage in that by. just sitting down and having Erica. answer every possible question about. what happened on that day. Uh, Andrew. Kovette, Blake Nef, here's my phone. Here you go. This is what happened. Here's where I was. We're not getting that. And the longer. that it takes and then when you choose.

to finally. spread share some daylight, um, you pick. Andrew Wilson and you give him a text. message. Never before seen, by the way. It's still never before seen because we. haven't seen it. He's teasing it. I. can't wait. Another little trap. I can't. wait for that text message to be. publicized. I'm so glad just even. knowing that it exists, that it was in. Andrew's hand, that's already helpful. for me. and we will take a brief break. and I will come back and respond to some. of your questions and comments.

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to be humiliated humiliated is a rather. expensive fetish." Indeed. Indeed, it. is. Trillion writes, "This debate is. positive evidence that Turning Point USA. has terrible PR. Overwhelmingly, I am. overwhelmed that it is positive evidence. that their PR strategy has just been an. open andsh shut disaster from start to. finish. You just it's it's unbelievable. They cannot stop blundering. Comments. from today's episode. The one you feed. writes Candace, please make sure that. they did not do a BB and leave a bug in.

your house. First off, the zone that. they were in is not a place that we are. regularly other than when we actually. film the show. And secondly, of course, George has already had the house swept. for bugs. That was like the first thing. he did, especially when we learned the. Steven Creeper uh and crew were here. Alicia Switzer writes, "Ian Carol did a. great reaction video, 6 hours, and it. was great. Kudos to him for calling the. BS as we all saw it and stopping to call. it out. I can't wait to get my new. second favorite shirt. Stay amazing. We.

will continue supporting you. Much love. from Missouri." I actually saw just. clips of him and I've shared some of. them and they're hilarious. And I do. want to um when I have time this weekend. watch his reaction video cuz I so many. people have said that it was absolutely. amazing. So shout out to Ian Carol for. that. And yes, you can support us. We do. have this is my second favorite shirt. available on the website merch. Uh if. you go to kennacewowens.com as we have. learned if you are going to commit a. crime, please wear your second favorite. shirt. So please wear this shirt in.

particular. Uh buy it, wear it, do. crime, but be smart. Don't wear your. favorite shirt cuz it's just not a good. idea. Um, and of course it is in maroon. And uh, we also have the shirts and the. mugs from our debate classic. I can. explain it to you, but I can't. understand it for you. Amazingly, he is. still asking questions. He does not. comprehend it. He does not comprehend. hearsay. And the Crucible account is now. um, getting fact checks. What do you. call community notes on X? Because.

they're like, right here it says that. they spoke to the mom. uh look at this. warrant, the the the uh probative uh. cause, the probable cause warrant, and. Twitter just had to come in and explain. to him, no, this this is not a direct. quotation from the mom. This is an. officer that is signing a probable cause. warrant. He can't just he's had days and. he still cannot comprehend this. So, we. are really hoping that Andrew Wilson. will be able to understand it. We have.

we are done explaining it. It is now on. him, incumbent upon Andrew Wilson, to do. his best to sit down and understand why. we are saying he is a hypocrite for. allowing the courts to do what he says. that we can't, which is to take a look. at evidence and to infer upon it. He. just doesn't get it, man. It's just not. all there. James Gray writes, "The fact. that a womanhating man paid 300K to be. dogwalked by a woman is insane. Congrats, Candace. You are a gentle. woman and a scholar." Thank you. Thank.

you so much. Like I said, I am very. proud of myself because I knew that it. was Turning Point's horse. Even just. them saying we we have nothing to do. with him and then his opening statement, it just is incredible. It's like there's. just not a brain cell split uh between. Erica and Andrew Kovette and Blake Nef. Like obviously it's not a good idea. Like give yourselves some plausible. dability. TJ Palo writes, "Because I. know people can be evil." I would like. everybody as a homework assignment to. practice that in the mirror. I just the.

way he did it was it was compelling. Good performance. Didn't give me Denzel. Washington, but I I think that he put in. a good effort. And I think my third one. was good. Like a little bit off to the. side because people can be evil. That's good. I'm I'm warming up there. Uh Blackest Panther writes, "Reason. Turning Point USA wanted Andrew to. debate was to attempt to absolve Israel. from any possible implications. surrounding the case." Yeah, that was. the obvious focus. Israel and America, which then puts a spotlight on Israel.

and America? Because you don't want to. make the case, but you just want to say, "But it's not Israel and America." Why. can't they comprehend that? Why is. everyone's social IQ so low as to not. realize that if you keep pushing the. it's not Israel though, right? It's not. Israel. Then people go, "Maybe it's. Israel. It's weird. Why would he come in. here wanting to talk about Israel?" His. opening statement, he starts talking. about Israel. Why? [laughter]. This is just a weird thing for you to. do. Look, if his if he had proven.

the uh debate claim, his debate claim. that there was overwhelming evidence. that Tyler Robinson did this, he would. naturally then absolve Israel from any. guilt. Well, he didn't want to do that. He wanted to absolve Israel from any. guilt without having to prove his. statement. Weird focus. Zamut writes, "A. burden bestowed on Candace Owens is a. blessing to us all.". >> [laughter]. >> It's very funny. Um, okay, I'll tell you. one thing. It's just, uh, I don't like. having to give out these punishments and.

sentencing people to more truth, but. this is just the way things work. Um, in. the court of law here in my court, my. house, where I am the magistrate and I. reign supreme. You can't be doing that. You can't just be bringing people with. just no type of values, no type of. decorum. Uh people whose wives act like. a Jerry Springer episode uh waiting to. happen like make you beg to bring my. back on air. You just it can't be like.

this turning point. You're you're. scraping too hard at the bottom of that. barrel right now. Anna writes, "If the. text said that he feared the left was. going to take him out, why would Joe. Kent Why wouldn't Joe Kent need that. message? Make it make sense? These. people endlessly contradict themselves. Keep going, Max. Because they are. relying on us to have a short memory.". Of course, if he was handing messages. that hand messages over as he was uh of. people that Charlie felt threatened by. or anything that could be significant, that would have been the first message.

that was handed over. And certainly, they would have expressed it publicly. that Charlie was fearful that the left. was going to kill him the night before. Instead, they denied it for four months. and then had Erica deny it on Glenn Beck. or rather stayed mum on it for four. months and then had Erica deny it on. Glen Glenn Beck. And then when it. backfired, they were like, "Oh, no, there's messages, but like it says the. left." Suspicious timeline in my. opinion. I'm allowed to have an opinion. Joey D. April writes, "Debategate is.

worthy of its own spots in the official. Candace timeline." I'm going to put. random things in the timeline now. because I just know how angry they are. about the timeline. Like, THEY'RE ALL. JUST LIKE, "WHY IS IT IN YOUR TIMELINE? HOW COULD YOU PUT THIS in your. timeline?" I'm just going to be like, "Candice went to Whole Foods. No. evidence needed. Candace went to the. went to the farmers market. Like just. put we're going to start putting just. random little tricky stuff in the. timeline. Um and see who has a heart. attack about it on X. It's my timeline.

It's my timeline. It's a weird strange. reason to question me about my timeline. which I take great pride in. And I saw. people commenting going Candace I didn't. even think this is like another level. I. had mentioned that I even organize my. fridge and that it says like, you know, sauces. I use my little maker and it. says sauces and dairy and things in. those side compartments. And then we. have little turntable trays inside of. the fridge. Yeah, go Max. Organize. Get. to the container store and do that.

Shout out to the suburban moms who just. need it. When you have a lot of kids, you got to be organized like this. Like. I organize their clothes. It's just it's. so freeing. Feels so good to be. organized. So I will be darned if. anybody thinks that they're going to. come for my timeline and I'm not going. to stand up for myself. Me and Ashley. worked hard on that timeline. Right, Ashley? Yes, we did. And we were pretty. fired up when he she almost came in from. that things almost got physical when he. addressed the timeline, but I kept my. composure. Like I I was I was I was.

ready to knock him out. I'm going to be. honest with you, but I didn't do that. Golf. Mrs. Ca Cadence. Cadence. I think. you meant to write Candace. Oh, golf. mommy spelled m a mi. Uh, side note, I. was listening to Kanye this weekend and. came across the song Stars. Now, I was. expecting to hear All right, you guys. My heart raced. Lol. You have good taste. in music. Thank you very much. That is. our intro uh our intro. I wish he had. made that a full song. It really is just. an intro, which is unfortunate. But yes, I absolutely love Yay. I love uh just. who he was and how hard he fought for.

himself. You know, I love the song. Power, the different phases of his life. and recognizing how much you have to. fight for custody of your own soul once. you make it. And that is why I love the. song Power so much because I feel like. I've gotten to a place where they expect. you to sell your soul. And I don't want. to do that. Not to the highest bidder, not to anyone. And that has been the. reason why I am focused on this case. because Charlie was my friend. And what. has happened here is unacceptable. And. what turning point has become is. unacceptable uh in my opinion. Anyway.

you guys we will see you tomorrow. [music].