How We Faked The Moon Landing With Bart Sibrel | Candace Ep 124

All right, guys. Let me give you a. little scenario. Let's say you took your. kids to Disney World. Okay? Get back. from Disney World. It was a great trip. You had a great vacation. And then one. of your friends says, "I don't think you. actually went to Disney World. Did you. go to Disney World?" And you said, "Yeah, of course. I I went to Disney. World." And they says, "Would you swear. on the Bible that you took your kids to. Disney World?" You probably say, "Yeah, you're being pretty weird, but I would. swear on the Bible and say I took my. kids to Disney World.". You probably wouldn't punch them in the. face. because you would just think they're. being weird. It's a very strange thing.

when you talk about the topic of the. moon landing to see people get so. incensed over it. I realize this. I've. never been a person that believed in the. moon landing. It's always just felt a. little foolish to me. Talking on the. moon, yeah, here we are. I don't know in. 1969. We had basically nothing. technologically and then we sort of just. stopped it going after a period of years. during which our government really. wanted to distract us from some stuff. that they were doing overseas. I don't. know. I'm not a big believer in it. I'm. not saying you're required to stop. believing in it. But I am going to.

require you to think because my next. guest knows a little bit something a. little bit of something about how angry. people get on this topic because he. himself was punched in the face. by Buzz Aldrin when he walked up to him. and asked him if he would put his hand. on the Bible and swear that he went to. the moon. He got socked pretty hard. His name is. Bart Sibrel and we are so excited to. have him joining us today. Welcome to. Candace.

You know, Bart, I feel like the first. thing that we have to ask you since. we've got you on the Candace podcast is. what is it's like to be punched in the. face by an astronaut? Well, he's got really good reflexes. I. didn't see it coming. He's got a good. punch. It knocked me back and it gave me. a tooth ache for about 3 years. And uh no way.

Yes, and then someone said, uh you know, "Why didn't you sue him?" And I thought, you know, to be quite honest, uh I. thought about it. But, it's amazing how. everything is in the ancient text, which. says, "If someone strikes you on one. cheek, offer them the other one." I. thought, "Rats.". So, So, you absolutely. must uh take my audience to the lead-up. of this moment. Like, the the person. Everyone's heard the story. Like, someone who went up to Buzz Aldrin with.

a Bible and said, "Put your hand on the. Bible. Did you guys go to the moon?" And. instead of getting an answer, he got. punched in the face, which I feel like. if I went to the moon, I would just be. like, "Yes, we did." and put my hand on. the Bible. I don't think I would get. violent. So, what is your side of the. story? Well, we had first produced A Funny. Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon. This is a million-dollar film financed. by a board member of an aerospace. company who built rockets for NASA, who. knows that the moon landings are fake,

thought it was his patriotic duty to. expose it. He gave us a million dollars. to produce A Funny Thing Happened on the. Way to the Moon. I grew up as the. biggest fan of the moon landings. I. mean, a fanboy. I had a shrine of Apollo. 11 pictures in my bedroom. I was 4 years. old at the time, and they followed me. wherever I went. But, I had an open. mind. And I met a guy who worked at NASA. who said it never happened. I'm. thinking, "Oh, I never thought about. that." And when I became a filmmaker.

whose job is to make fake scenes look. real, I'm like, "These are definitely shot with. electrical lighting. It's pretty easy to. prove that that's the case." And so, I. was producing the film under the theory. it might be true that they faked it. And. the film took 7 years to produce. It's a. 45-minute film. It's on the homepage of. sabrel.com. You can see it for free. And halfway into this project, mind you, I I'm meticulous. I spent 4,000 hours.

editing a 45-minute film. That's 40. hours a week for 2 years just to edit. the movie. Halfway into the film, you. see, the way I looked at it, Candace, is. if they faked the moon landing, they're. more likely to have made a mistake the. first time they faked it. So, I asked. NASA, as a journalist, I'm doing a. documentary about the moon landings, which was true. And send me everything you got just from. the first moon mission. Figuring if they. made a mistake, they're more likely to.

have made it the first time cuz they. never faked it before. So, I meticulously went through. everything, and there's a very little. footage. There's only like 20 pictures. of an astronaut on the moon in the first. mission. And you get the same footage over and. over again. Well, my source at NASA. believes a whistleblower sent me a tape. I pop it in. It says, "Do not show to. the public" on the screen. And they're faking being halfway to the. moon, dated 2 days into the flight. All the astronauts are on camera.

And they're using a 1-ft model that to. make it look like the Earth's floating. in space, and they're looking back at it. from a distance. They never left Earth. orbit. And what a surprise, 55 years later, they still cannot leave Earth orbit. That's why there's mannequins orbiting. the moon. So, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, they really did fake the moon landing. How sad is that?". Come on, Apollo 11. Houston, Goldstone. says that the TV looks so great. Over.

All right. Okay, roger. Over. Everything nominal. Okay, so what we're seeing here on the. right-hand side is allegedly the Earth. floating in space. But in fact, that is. a circular window of the spacecraft. You. can kind of see the thickness there at. the bottom. And they moved the camera at. the back of the spacecraft, and they. turned out all the lights, and you're seeing part of the Earth. outside of a circular window. But, it.

looks like the Earth floating in space. from a distance. And this is the footage. that we uncovered that proves that they. never left Earth orbit, cuz there it is. right out the window, and they're faking. being halfway to the moon. They. allegedly have the lens at the window's. glass to shoot the tiny Earth far away. But, when we show the final clip, you'll. see that the camera's at the back of the. spacecraft. All these segments we got. were unedited. They only showed about 10.

seconds of this to the public. That's. why it says do not show to the public at. the beginning of this unedited reel. Now, what you just heard, and you can. play it again, is the talk is because. they're in Earth's orbit only a couple. of hundred miles of the Earth. They. would have an instantaneous conversation. with NASA. Like, I might say, "Hello. How are you?" They would say, "I'm doing. fine. How are you?" I'm doing okay. But, they're supposed to be halfway to the. moon or 136,000 mi away. So, what they did is they faked a.

4-second radio delay as if it took 2. seconds to go out to them and 2 seconds. for the radio transmission to come back. So, what you hear, if you want to play. it again, is you hear NASA saying the TV. picture looks great. Come on, Apollo 11. Houston, Goldstone. says that the TV looks so great. Over. There are 4 seconds of dead air. And now you'll hear the CIA prompting.

them to speak after the 4 seconds. Go. Okay, roger. So, we actually have a third track of. hidden audio of the CIA telling them not. to speak until 4 seconds go by to create. this fake radio delay. Now, if you go to. the next clip, this is where Neil. Armstrong lied. Uh, Roger, just sent Apollo 11. calling in from about 130,000 mi out.

Yeah, so go ahead and freeze it there. So, he just lied. This is the part. that's in all the NASA reels. He claims. he's halfway to the moon, but what. you're seeing is really a circular. window of the spacecraft with the camera. back. If that were really the Earth. floating in space, the lens would have. to be at the glass, right? But, it's. actually at the back of the spacecraft. All the lights are off, and you're. seeing a circular window in the.

foreground, outside of which is. completely filled with the Earth in. lower Earth orbit. They even insert a. little crescent piece of material into. the window to make it look like the. terminator line between night and day. Now, if you go to. 39:13, and of course all this is viewable on. the homepage of sabrel.com, you'll see. the outtake. Go ahead and play this, and. this is the part that really really gets. you. You can dim down the audio if you. want. So, basically, this is the.

outtake. We have the unedited reel. That's why it said don't show to the. public at the beginning. And here they. are removing part of the transparency in. front of the window and part of the. special effect. That's a work light. inside of the spacecraft, and then the. lights come up and you see that they're. in Earth orbit all the time, and we're. using a 1-ft model of the Earth using. the circular window to fake being. halfway to the moon. So, you see, that's. was the circular window the entire time. So, you can play that again. It's really.

remarkable. And so, we have them faking being. halfway to the moon. See, he just. claimed a moment ago that this was. 130,000 mi out, but we have the unedited. reel. It's very convincing, but that's. the window. That's Michael Collins. moving stuff away from in front of the. window to set up for an interior shot. That's a work light. The camera has been. at the back of the spacecraft the entire. time, and then they open up the iris, and you can see the very bright and near.

Earth out the window, but it's dated 2. days into the flight where they're. supposed to be halfway to the moon. They. showed that other clip of him claiming. they were 130,000 mi out, but they're. still in Earth orbit. And Candace, you. said, "Wow." That's exactly what I said, and that's exactly what an audience when. I've shown this to many people in. theaters, they gasp. They say, "Wow.". Because that's them faking being halfway. to the moon. So, if they really went to. the moon, why would they be faking any.

of it? So, after the first film came. out, which has that footage in it, even. my critics agree that that is them. faking being halfway to the moon, which. they would never have to do if they. could really go halfway to the moon, right? So, I had this idea maybe from. childhood TV programs, you know, taking. oath in court or whatever, why not just. track down the astronauts and ask them. to swear on a Bible whether they walked. on the moon or not. And the second film, which is also on. the homepage of sabrel.com, called.

Astronauts Gone Wild, one astronaut. kicked me. Yeah. One astronaut kicked me. One astronaut. threatens to punch me. One astronaut. threatens to shoot me. And we even left. a hot microphone accidentally in an. astronaut's house after he assaulted me. And the camera guy so, you know, disoriented, he forgets to hit stop. recording. So, while the astronaut and. his son are in their house with the door. closed, we're recording the audio by wireless.

microphone in the backseat of the rental. car in the driveway. And they say, word for word, "Do you. want to call the CIA and have them. whacked?". You want to call the CIA and have them. whacked? So like I said. That is crazy. Well, like I said, if I'm some silly. person who thinks the moon landings are. fake and they really went, why would the. CIA be involved? But I have proof that.

they didn't go, classified footage and. an eye witness. That's why the CIA is. involved. And I go into my book me being. literally kidnapped at the back door of. CNN trying to get somebody the tape by. the government drugging me with truth. serum, vomiting, telling them everything. they wanted to know, escaping, peeing in. a cup, taking it to a lab, and the lab. was broken into and my urine sample was. stolen. All that is in the book. So you're saying that there is more. between the CIA and you aside from them. saying should I have that guy whacked.

after Buzz Aldrin punched you in the. face? Yeah, a lot more. I never went into it during interviews. prior to the book coming out, but. basically when I found the secret. footage, that night I was followed from. church. I I ended up looping around and. following the person following me, pulled up alongside of him to get a look. at him, and apparently they zapped my. car, all the electricity, everything. could just shut off automatically and I. coasted to a stop out in the middle of. the highway at you know, 9:00, 10:00 at.

night. I'm literally being chased on. foot by two to four people. I hail a cab. who takes me to a safe house where I. have a copy of the tape. I get it to the. back door of CNN where I'm surrounded by. government agents. who take the tape. They drug me with. what I presume is truth serum to the. point of vomiting. Uh they have a clipboard ready. They ask. me all these questions like, "Where's. the original?" and blah, blah, blah. I escape their custody. I make my way. back to Nashville. I pee in a cup. I.

give it to a friend to put in his name. in the lab trying to outwit the CIA. And days later when we meet to get the. lab results cuz I I told the NBC news. director, I'm going to get them. I got. proof. I got this exotic drug in me. You. know what I mean? That they illegally. injected me with. And so he says, well, there was a. problem at the lab. And I'm like, well, what problem? He says, well, funny. thing, they had a break-in over the. weekend. I'm like, yeah, so what? He. says, well, funny thing, the only thing. stolen was your urine sample. And the.

people at the lab are like, we don't. know who you are, but take your business. elsewhere. And so all of these bizarre. escapades, I go into detail in a chapter. called A Funny Thing Happened on the Way. to CNN and a funny thing happened on the. way to church. Going going into great. detail. uh that I never did before because it's. already a hard pill to swallow that uh. you know, they faked the moon landing, but they did. And seeing how this is the. final statement from me for the. historical record until the truth comes.

out, then. um I thought, well, why not put it all. in the book? And so it goes into great. detail my harassment by the government, the the death threat on audio, the. literally, you know, being followed from. church, ch- chased on foot, you know, abducted illegally at the back door CNN, drugged, proof that I was drugged being. broken into in a lab. You can imagine a. lab. They know they had a break-in and. then they checked the inventory, no. computers, no documents, but one urine.

sample stolen from Bart Sibrel. Mhm. You know, that had the truth serum. in it that I was going to prove that. they had drugged me cuz only the CIA. would have this particular type of drug. And I guess maybe. Right. And and and interestingly enough, I've been telling my my viewers to watch. read the book Chaos and it goes into. depth about a a Jolly West and and to. chase to create a truth serum, which. they at the admitted they were. successful in creating a truth serum to. get people to. wanted to know and don't don't even. remember question beyond question three.

And so maybe the drug itself is a. secret, you know, and they didn't want. that getting out. I don't know. Now, if. they really went to the moon and I'm. some silly person who thinks it was shot. at Cannon Air Force Base, which we have. proof of, then why would the CIA be involved? And. all that, Candace, to answer your. question, if I walked on the moon. and some person thought otherwise, I. would find that hysterically funny. A. sword with no point causes no injury. It. would be like throwing a feather at him,

but what it was like was like walking up. to him in front of his wife and saying, "Oh, your mistress says hello." You see, he's angry because it's truthful. And. that's, you know, what you see in. Astronauts Gone Wild. All right, guys, taking a moment to. remind you about Pre-Born, because every. baby's life is a precious gift full of. potential and dreams that are waiting to. unfold. That's why Pre-Born, the. nation's largest pro-life organization, is on the front lines for at-risk babies. and mothers that are facing unplanned. pregnancies. Pre-Born's network of clinics are. positioned in the highest abortion rate.

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will match your gift, doubling the. donation amount. To donate, dial pound. 250 and say the keyword baby. Again, that's pound 250 baby, or you can donate. securely at preborn.com/candace. Again, that's preborn.com/candace. I actually want to talk about anger and. overreaction being an indicator that a. lie is being told because what's really. funny is my experience is I just kind of. never I always thought it just seemed. really fake and weird. And obviously, I'm born in 1989, which is 20 years. after the fact. We learn about it really. as a blip in school. It's it's it's it.

feels at least when you're first. learning about it like very. inconsequential like a oh, what a fun. conspiracy theory. And one day I. tweeted, "What's one conspiracy theory that gets. you?" And I said, "For me, it's the moon. landing. I just really don't think it. happened." Share, you know, some ones. that you think that are funny. And the. overreaction to that tweet, and you you. brought up Bill Maher. He starts getting. angry about like the media got angry. like how dare you question the moon. landings? And I went, "Okay, your. reaction to this is now making me. believe that there's something there.". Because if we went to the moon and. someone said, "I don't believe you went.

to the moon." Who cares? If I say, which. I did, "I went to Dollywood the other. weekend with my kids." And you say, "Candace, I don't believe you." I'd be. like, "Okay.". Uh I went. I don't know what else to. say. I don't really I don't really I. don't really care. I don't care if you. don't believe me or you don't believe me. I actually went. And if you said, "Candace, put your hand on the Bible and. swear that you went to Dollywood with. your kids." I'd be like, "This is weird, but okay.". I swear I went to Dollywood with my. kids. I wouldn't punch you in the face. I wouldn't get angry. And so, this is. where I think the media really.

miscalculates because they get so rabid. and so angry and defensive of things. that aren't actually real. And so, this. led me to go, "Actually, let me look. further into the moon landing." And when. I looked into it, I went, "Oh, this is. this just absolutely. did not happen." So, I had not realized. that you had had gotten access because. there was just this NASA whistleblower. who was like, "Hey, man, we didn't go. here.". And it's interesting to see. how the astronauts are not really able. after they go to answer basic questions.

about what they experienced out You're. in outer space. You're the first person. to walk the moon, and they seem so. uncomfortable in interviews. Yeah, there's a famous quote. It says. the likelihood of one individual being. right increases in direct proportion to. the intensity to which others are trying. to prove him wrong. The fact that it. gets this juvenile reaction as if I'm. blaspheming their God is proof that. we're correct, believe it or not.

Because if they really went, why would. they care? You type in in Google moon. landing fraud, you don't get moon. landing fraud, you get a thousand videos. to reassure people that the moon. landings are real. Well, why do they. need to reassure reassure us? I mean, if. I went around saying Mickey Mouse was. the first president of the United. States, do you think there would be a. thousand videos to reassure people that. it was George Washington? They have to. prop it up cuz it's made of straw. They. didn't go. I was the biggest fan of it, and if I can admit, reluctantly,

that they faked it, and people don't. realize what this means. It's so. profound. I mean, imagine this, Candace. Imagine they really did go to the moon. and come back, boy, that was a close. one. Or. they lied about it to the whole world, they embezzled an equivalent of 250. billion dollars, they printed it on. coins, on stamps, in the encyclopedia, and gave a medals of honor for being. such good liars, and according to people. I've interviewed, relatives of dead.

astronauts who were murdered by the CIA. Their opinion, not mine. If that's true, which sadly it is, that is so much more profound than if. they actually went. So, what we have is. one of the greatest events in human. history is the faking of the moon. landing. by the most powerful nation on Earth, and people don't realize how easy it was. to fake. It's like. whoever killed JFK, he's still dead. It's a tragedy. Whoever did 9/11,

they're still dead. It's a tragedy. You. can change the hats on who did it and. why. This is different. This is a. positive lie. You see? And I come along. wanting to take away that candy and give. them the reality of manure and they. don't want it. I got an email just a few. days ago. from someone who knew Carl Sagan. And he said that Carl Sagan privately. both knew that the moon landings were. fake, but he wanted to be politically.

correct. So before he died, he wrote. this about the moon landing fraud. indirectly. Carl Sagan said, "One of the. saddest lessons of history is this. If. we've been bamboozled or lied to long. enough, we tend to reject any evidence. of the bamboozle. We're no longer. interested in finding out the truth. The. bamboozle, the lie has captured us. It's.

simply too painful to acknowledge even. to ourselves that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over. you, you almost never get it back. And. then I. don't know you that well at all, if. you'll forgive me, but I get the impression you believe in. God, right? Mhm. Okay. So what we have at the beginning. of A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to. the Moon, we show the Tower of Babel, which.

according to Genesis 6 was built to show. off. We're going to make a name for. ourselves. It was never finished. The. Messiah said, "If you start a tower and. don't finish it, you're a fool. to the whole world." Then the biggest. machine ever built in the technological. age, the Titanic, put in print, the ship. that God himself could not sink. Tower of Babel never finished. Titanic. never made one voyage. And then Richard.

Nixon, who knew they were not on the. moon, said putting a man on the moon is second. in greatness only to God making the. universe. Wow. You see that? This is a blasphemous. event. How ironic in a fallen world that. the most powerful nation on Earth ends. up being one of the most corrupt and the. greatest accomplishment is a complete. fraud. The most published female writer. in the world, Ellen White, about the.

Tower of Babel, said the following, that. if the truth comes out about the moon. landing, and it might, could be true. about that as well. She said the. monument to their pride became a. memorial to their folly. Imagine if the. truth comes out and we have an. eyewitness, which we can talk about, who. saw them film the fake moon landing at. Cannon Air Force Base and confessed so. as he was dying. Wow. I definitely do want to talk about. that and there's there's a lot of things. that you said there and I want to go.

over them slowly. So, one of the things. I stumbled across quite quite. accidentally, actually, I was looking. into Aleister Crowley and, you know, sort of this satanic cult and their. belief that they could conquer the seven. nations. He had this vision that he. could conquer the seven nations and be. the beast uh. uh he. after he was reading Revelations in the. Bible and, you know, he begins this this. cult, is the only way to describe it, and Jack Parsons, who was the founder of. the Apollo program. People don't know. this uh that he was a part of this sex.

cult and that in order to establish the. Apollo program, this is on Wikipedia. This is we are not in conspiracy land. right now. We covered this on my show, The Origins of NASA. It's it's so. sinister, it's so satanic. And one of. the things that they believed was that. they could summon demons via these sex. rituals that they were having out in. California. I believe in Devil's Canyon. Like they they believed that he could. summon devils and he said that he did. summon a devil and that that program was. successful and that they were going to, according to Jack Parsons, uh that they were going to.

create via sex magic a moon baby, a moon. child. This is again available on. Wikipedia, Jack Parsons, and you know, and the religion that they established, which was called Thelema, and then he. took it and took it even further, and he. was considered the protege of Aleister. Crowley, and I go, "Okay, so you're. telling me the guy who began the Apollo. program believed that he had a vision. that was given to him by the devil that. he could produce a moon child." And then.

we're told that he never got this Virgin. Mary, this like satanic Virgin Mary, this woman with red hair that came and. stumbled upon the sex ritual house, that. he never got her pregnant or that she. got pregnant and she got a miscarriage. This is again all available on. Wikipedia. It's very scary to learn. about Jack Parsons. And I'm going, "So. I'm supposed to trust this person with. having established this program and. think that this program is entirely. legitimate, and their interest, their. expressed interest was in conquering the. nations, right? In conquering the. nations." My issue that I came up.

against when I was in my own mind going, "I don't believe the moon landing. happened. I read this piece. It seems. all ridiculous." The problem is I wasn't. alive during that time, so you need. somebody to walk you through how. ridiculous it really was. Was I was going, "But why? Like why. would they do this?" And like you said, the implications would be profound. And. the answer to that came to me actually. when I was speaking to a guy about. Ashton Forbes about MH370 and the idea. of government hiding technology. He said. something along the lines of, "If the. base assumptions are wrong, right? If. you are telling everybody that, you.

know, the Earth's a globe, or you're. telling everybody that E equals MC. squared, whatever the base assumption is. that you establish, if everyone's. working off of that and saying, 'Well, this is now concrete. This is consensus. This is a fact,' then you're actually. putting a ceiling on science, right? So. if you're the makers of the world and. you're powerful and you're Freemasons, which many of these people were, and. you're telling everybody that, you know, the earth looks this way or this is how. the atmosphere works or this is what it. looks like when you're 6 250,000 miles.

away from the earth's surface, and. everybody's working off of that model, you're actually keeping the entire. population dumber than you. And I went, now that's really fascinating because I. do believe that they told this lie, and. their anger in maintaining this lie. signals to me that the lie has to do. with control. Like that's the only. reason you would be that angry. You're. executing some sort of control over. humanity via this lie. Well, yes. Uh the. I find it hard to believe the evil.

things that I hear take place in the. world, you know, from child molestation. or murder or genocide. I find it hard to. believe, but the longer I live, the more. wicked the world really is. The world. has been conquered by evil people. thousands of years ago. When the Messiah. was being tempted by Lucifer, the fallen. angel, he said if the Messiah would. worship Lucifer that he'd give him all. the kingdoms of the world because they. belong to him, and he can give them to. whoever he wants. That's why all of our. world leaders are liars. What is.

mankind's greatest accomplishment? Putting a man on the moon. It's a lie. It's very simple to prove. I. have, you know, four concrete proofs. that individually would prove, by. themselves, we didn't go to the moon. Let's start with the simplest one, which. is today. With 55 years better technology, the farthest that NASA can send an. astronaut into space is 1/1000. the distance to the moon.

So, what they're claiming. is that back with 1960s technology, before microwave ovens, before cell. phones, when all of NASA's computers. combined had 1/1,000,000 the computing. power of a cell phone, they sent astronauts ahead of schedule. on the first attempt 1,000 times farther. than they can send them today with five. decades better technology. So, what. they're actually claiming is that for. the first time in recorded history,

technology was greater in the past than. in the future. Lindbergh flew across the. Atlantic in 1927. Imagine 55 years. later, no one can fly across the. Atlantic. Or they say it's too expensive. It's. just too expensive is what they say. not the case. The government doesn't. care about expenses at all, otherwise. they wouldn't be spending all that. money, you know, on wars and everything. So, imagine at 55 years after Lindbergh. flew across the Atlantic, not only can. no one fly across the Atlantic, but they. can only fly 1,000th as far.

It's like, well, what's going on here? You see, it's impossible to have greater. technology in the past and in the. future. When the first atomic bomb was. blown up, 10 years later, atomic bombs were 1,000 times more. powerful. So, if they could go to the. moon on the first attempt with 1. millionth the computing power of a cell. phone, they would have been on Mars 10. years later. We'd be in another solar. system by now, and there'd be bases all. over the moon like there are at the. South Pole, right? 100 mph winds, 100°.

below zero, and yet there are bases. there because it can be done, maybe. barely. So, if it could be done, there. would be bases there. In fact, just to. reach the South Pole took six attempts. It killed five crews first. Finally, the sixth time they made it to. the South Pole, and yet somehow they did. it on the first attempt. They can drive. cars and play golf on the moon, and 55. years later. by the way. In an untested aircraft. And at 55 years later, the best they can. do is have mannequins orbit the moon.

Now, my book Moon Man goes into all this. detail that's not in A Funny Thing. Happened on the Way to the Moon, because. I had sources. I have a millionaire. backing me, okay? I interviewed the. widow and the son. of the man who was going to be the first. man to walk on the moon. He was beloved. by the public and the media. And. according to his widow, who I. interviewed for 4 hours, and according. to his son, who's a 747 pilot, who I.

interviewed for 3 hours, he was murdered. by the CIA. because he would not cooperate with. fraud in the Apollo program. He told his. wife why. story down for people that don't know. about Grissom. Can you can you. explain what was supposed to happen. because a lot of people that were. supposed to go to the moon ended up dead. in very mysterious circumstances. People. that were supposed to testify about the. death ended up dead in mysterious. circumstances. So, let's slow that down. for my listeners in case this is the. first time they've ever even considered. that the moon landing didn't happen.

Yeah, so basically Gus Grissom was the. most beloved astronaut because he had an. accident where his space capsule sank to. the bottom of the ocean, and he. confessed at the press conference he had. all of these rolls of nickels in his. pocket to give to his son to give to his. schoolmates to say this nickel has been. in outer space. And when he started. sinking with that extra weight, he said, "Well, maybe that wasn't such a. brilliant idea." The media laughed, and. then someone asked him, "Were you. afraid?". And he said,

"Of course I was afraid." And everyone. said, "This guy's real." They said, "He's going to be the first man to walk. on the moon." He was preparing. congressional reports and giving them to. senators that were taken from his home. by the CIA before they even informed his. widow that he was dead. On January 26th, 1967, he came home and told his wife the. following, who told me, "Hon, for some strange reason, the CIA. is all over the launch pad today. I've. never seen the CIA here in 3 years. Why.

did they show up today to inspect the. equipment?" The next day he's dead from. faulty equipment. Days earlier, he held. a press conference without permission. And he took a bunch of reporters up to. the top of the rocket where he has fixed. a lemon the size of a grapefruit to the. top of the rocket calling it publicly a. piece of junk. In fact, seconds before. he burned alive, murdered by the CIA, his widow's opinion, not mine, they couldn't even get a wired intercom.

to work between two buildings. He says, "How are we going to go to the moon?" He. says, "They're not fixing anything. because they knew they were going to. fake it and hadn't told the astronauts. yet." It was faked a year later. So, here's the point. Our country was. formed, right? Not by the Constitution, by the Declaration of Independence. against the tyranny of King George, right? Because he was an obstacle to the. pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. What's the first one? Life. The federal.

government is murdering their own. people. Does anybody care? It'd be one thing if. they faked the moon landing and didn't. kill anybody. But that's not the case. You see, they're so afraid for the truth about. this to come out. I showed two NBC news. directors the video that you can see on. the home page of sibrel.com of them. faking being halfway to the moon with. the 1-ft model, the thing that convinced. me and my critics they're faking part of.

the mission, which they would never have. to do if they really went. One of them. refused to broadcast it. He said, "This. will cause a civil war. I'm not going to go down in history as. the man who caused a civil war." And the. other one, 10 years later, agreed to. broadcast it, flew me to New York, put. me up in the Waldorf Astoria, and they. said, "We're going to break the story. nationwide." They get a call from the. federal government telling them, "Don't. embarrass us. Cancel the broadcast." And. they did. All these podcasters who claim. that they're anti-deep state are.

defending the moon landing. They're. defending and people who are accessory. to murders, right? A great broadcaster, Glenn Beck, who's sincere but sincerely. wrong, has me on for 15 minutes in audio. and has on Charles Duke an hour on and. and video. An Apollo astronaut who has. the audacity. to claim to be a Christian, right? Lying, assuming that people are going to. believe him if he calls himself a. Christian. When he because of his participation in.

the moon landing fraud, many people were. killed. My eyewitness was Cyrus Eugene. Akers. He was the chief of security at. Cannon Air Force Base. And as he was dying, fearing God's. judgment, and as we know if we renounce. our sin and confess, we're forgiven. The first thing out of his mouth, chief. of security at Cannon Air Force Base, he says, "I'm a murderer. I killed somebody.". His son says, "Who?" He says, "A. co-worker at Cannon Air Force Base." His.

son brings in the military police to. investigate, to give the family closure. Maybe they just dumped his body. somewhere, said he disappeared. Then they asked him, "Why? Why did you. kill him?". He said, "The Cobra landing fraud. We. both eyewitnessed it in 1968. at Cannon Air Force Base. President. Johnson was there the first 2 3 days of. filming. My friend thought it was. morally wrong. I killed him to keep it a. secret. Please forgive me." I have. outlined the best 4 minutes of it. It's.

a 4-minute clip. It's clip nine, called. the deathbed confession. It's the son. describing his father, you know, story. that he gave to him on his deathbed. And. he goes into great detail about Cannon. Air Force Base, uh how they spent weeks building the. lunar set, how they did it with. pulverized concrete, the security. precaution, the list of 15 people who. were there, how he lived right across. from Cannon Air Force Base, how his dad.

abhorred lying. And so, you know, his dad, why would he. make this up as he's dying? I didn't put. in the book, uh but I discussed during. interviews about the homicide because. the son was still alive and didn't want. to be pestered by the media. He was. already pestered. The White House press secretary, the. United States Senate Intelligence. Committee, and the FBI were involved. with me in giving this guy whistleblower. protection. That's how serious this was. People showed up at this guy's house in.

the video clip and threatened to kill. him and his family if he ever spoke to. me again about his father participating. in the fake moon landing. So, we we we got as honorable people as. we could in the government protecting. this guy. So, this is his testimony, 4. minutes of it with the time code there, that, you know, to me it's just one. more, you know, piece of evidence, but. to everybody else they're like, "Wow!". You know, when they see it. And, you. know, it's that reaction. That's what I.

saw. When you saw the window shot, you're like, "Oh my gosh!" And that's. with me. I'm like, "Oh my gosh! They. really did fake the moon landing." I. called up Bill Kaysing, my source in. NASA, immediately. And we had already people we were. already on scrambled telephones. We have. a millionaire backing us. And our phone call is interrupted. And I'm like, you know, I got this. proof. You got to, you know, don't sleep. where you just slept last night. Then I. go to church to get, you know, feedback.

from the elders. What do I do? They say, "Drive like a bat out of hell to CNN.". On the way to CNN, I'm followed. My. car's disabled. I have to take a cab, and then I'm illegally arrested and. drugged. All that happened the day I. found the tape. Well, let's let's get into it. Let's. let's actually watch that clip of his. testimony. I've never known my dad to lie. To get caught lying was worse than. whatever it was you did to begin with. I. remember going to school with long. sleeve shirts on.

uh to hide the purple welts. Uh you did. not lie in our house, that's for sure. Dad had a real. really bad attitude towards lying. Excuse me again. Um. Okay, anyway, this is this is the story. that my dad told me on his deathbed. Project Slam Dunk. was the name of of this. Um President Johnson in 1968, okay.

Um in Cannon Air Force Base in 1968, he. said by that time by the time he got. there. that there was already two large hangars. that were connected. There was hundreds of dump trucks that. came in and dumped sand and uh. uh stone. And uh cement powder was powdered over. the top of all that to make it look like. a lunar landscape. They had men that. they fashioned it into a lunar.

landscape, he said. Okay, I've never known my dad to lie, so. this all took me by. surprise. You know, what's that all about? So anyway, um. he said that in front of the the. airplane hangars. uh was pole framing with large canvas. tents um that was concealing the inside. of the staging area. Inside the staging area.

uh on flatbed trucks was uncreated um. the lunar lander that was assembled. reassembled back inside the hangars. Um all of the walls were painted flat. black. and the ceilings as well. He was sworn to secrecy by the NSA. and they would put him in prison for. breaking that oath. When Dad saw the the moon landing on TV, he cried. He said he knew.

that what he had witnessed on TV was. exactly what they recorded in that. hangar. Um there was no reason for them to go. flying around and everything. They had. detailed high-definition photos of the. landing area. There was no reason for. them to go flying around to a different. landing area that almost exhausted their. fuel. except for drama because everything had. gone so smoothly.

Um. nothing you know, so it had to be. something. Anyway, um. Dad was one of three guards that guarded. the uh the inside of the front entrance. There was a list of 15 people who could. enter. No one else was allowed by order. of President Johnson. And here is that. list and I gave it to Bart Sibrel as. well. Uh and he checked out a lot of these.

names and he says he can verify a lot of. these people and what they do. Um. and I come across the couple myself. Anyway, President Johnson, Neil Armstrong, Edwin Aldrin, Wernher von Braun, Robert Emenegger, Gene Kranz, James Webb, Joe Kerwin, Dr. Thomas Paine, Glenn Loney, Dr. Christopher Kraft,

Dr. James Van Allen, General Trudeau Trudell, Lieutenant Colonel. uh Donald Simon, and Grant Norry. Wow. Wow. Wow. I mean, what is the. incentive for someone to put their lives. at risk to say that their father told. them something on their dying bed, you. know? Yeah, and he confessed he murdered a. co-worker. So, all these people, you. know, astronauts who are alive, you.

know, not only did they lie about it, they contributed to the death, the. murder of innocent people, including the. crew of Apollo 1 and that co-worker at. Cannon Air Force Base, Donald Barron, and who knows who else. You know, when I. got illegally abducted at the back door. CNN trying to get this classified. footage into reporter friend there, uh, a lawyer who I think wanted to have. a CNN address, the only way he could. afford it was a back alley door. Well,

he happened to step out right as I was. being illegally arrested. I said, "Look, I'm a journalist with NBC. Here are my. credentials. Did you see these huge. videotapes? They're Betacam. I have. proof they didn't go to the moon. I'm. being illegally arrested." And of. course, the government people were. freaking out. He got out his notepad. Had that not happened, maybe I wouldn't be having this. conversation today because maybe they. would have gotten rid of me, too. All right, guys. If you're feeling. stressed about giving your family a. memorable holiday, you are not alone. Prices remain higher than ever and a lot. of Americans are maxing out their credit.

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JFK being shot because he didn't want to. go along with the, you know, war. overseas and them placing in LBJ, who. was just an absolutely evil man, an. absolutely evil man who, in my opinion, played a role in the assassination of. JFK, knew about it without question. because he was knew that he was going to. be become the president. Uh and so, what. you're speaking about, you know, my. audience is aware of the MKUltra. program. They're aware what the CIA is. capable of of training people to kill. and trying to brainwash people to kill. So, this doesn't come as a surprise to.

us. The CIA murdering is something that. my audience very much understands. You. know, there was another piece of this um. there was a guy and I'm not sure if he. was due to give congressional testimony. who got into a bizarre car accident, his. entire family got killed and I'm just. sort of blanking on who that was and how. it related to the moon landings. Ronald Baron? was inspector at Rocketdyne, I believe, and because he did such a good job. pointing out this equipment is a piece. of junk, they fired him.

Congress said, "That's the guy we want. to report on Apollo." When the murders. happened, they wanted him all the more. and they basically killed him on the way. to report for the second time for. Congress that the moon mission is 10. years or more away from going to the. moon. I mean, they can't go to the moon. today. They can only go 1/1000 the. distance. So, yes, they faked it. And. here's what people need to have an. epiphany. was killed in a car accident, right? Him. and his wife, is that correct? it appears that he was killed in a car. accident. What they probably did is.

killed him elsewhere. They put his car. on a train track to destroy the forensic. evidence cuz they didn't have DNA. capability at the time. But people need. to understand this. According to Bobby. Kennedy Jr. who has more access to the. JFK files than Oliver Stone does. His. opinion, which is he's the expert not. me, so it's my opinion. His uncle, President Kennedy, was. absolutely 100% killed by the CIA. I guess that's election interference, isn't it? And then Robert McNamara, defense secretary during the Vietnam.

War, said, "Look, the public was against. entering the war. We said we need some. sort of Pearl Harbor type of thing.". Well, the day before Pearl Harbor, 90%. of Americans were against World War II. The day after, they wanted to get even. So, they created a fake attack by the. North Vietnamese against an American. ship in the Gulf of Tonkin. Congress. passed a law, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. He said. on his deathbed, "It never happened. We. made it up." Congress passed a law.

Shouldn't the CIA get a. reprimand, if not be completely shut. down forever? Right? So, my point is. the federal government is willing to. kill their own president. They're willing to start a war that. needlessly killed 58,220. of their own people. So, I don't think they're going to have. a problem faking a video image on the. moon. You see? And if you want to show. people, I know I sent to a Mark this. still picture. You can prove. Now, first we prove with logic. You.

can't have a thousand times greater. space traveling technology in 1969 than. they can today. There you go. It's over. They didn't go. If you need more proof. than that, bring up the picture. A still. picture. I'm a filmmaker. Like I said, my job is to make fake scenes look real. And if we show this picture, you'll see. that in sunlight shadows aren't. parallel. Go outside on a sunny day, two. trees, two telephone poles, two people. standing in your front yard or parking. lot at lunch. And you'll see it's. impossible mathematically for the.

shadows to intersect. Do you see that on. the left-hand side? It's impossible. Then here's a picture they claim is on. the moon that the astronaut's shadow is. going at 12:00 and a shadow from a rock. is going at 9:00. Now, that's that's a. 90° difference from objects 5 ft apart. This is all the proof that you need that. the moon missions were taken on Earth. because it's supposed to be 20 times. brighter than a desert on Earth because. there's no atmosphere. So, you don't.

need lights. That that's proof that. light is really close and it's an. electrical light. That means they needed. that you that you speak about this. cuz then you go, "What is the purpose?". And you also see this element of money. laundering at a time when they wanted to. go to war. Uh money just disappearing. because people were believing that we. were do having these amazing feats. accomplished in outer space. And it's. interesting to see if and I did this. looking into the companies, you know, who received. that deal with the government. "Hey, we'll give you all the money. You create. the spacesuits. Hey, we'll give you all.

the money. You create the spaceship.". And they were producing pieces of crap. I mean, one company literally made like. nylon spandex for and then they're like, "Yeah, no, you'll be good enough." No. basis in science or anything like you. can make our spacesuits. And you can see. the images of women sewing the. spacesuits. And then you learn about how. many degrees it was on the surface of. the moon and you're telling me this. material was able to endure this many. degrees during the daytime and the. Fahrenheit and then dropping below like. what was it? Like a -200°. at nighttime. And somehow this fabric.

worked and the film was not corrupted. during that heat. Film being in the. camera. And so, the more that you look. into the moon landing and seriously look. at the pieces that have been written by. people who are just telling you this. just never happened. I mean, I'm a. photographer. Show me the camera that. can survive these temperatures, you. know, and make it all the way back into. the atmosphere. And then you run it and. the pictures are perfect. It it is a bit. cartoonish. It's almost cartoonish. I. mean one guy likens it, he says it's. like um the Easter Bunny for adults.

Well, yeah, that's pretty much what it. is. I've been holding on to this myth of. the moon landing. That's pretty much. what it is. I've been using the Santa. Claus analogy and I I don't mean to be. insulting, but the moon landing really. is Santa Claus for adults. People aren't. facing facts. No matter what proof you. present, they deny it. They say we went. anyway. I talked to a college professor, universities in America. He teaches. aerospace. I said, "Well, what if a. Apollo astronaut on national TV. confessed that the moon landings were. fake, shot at Cannon Air Force Base,

just like Bart says?" He says, "I'd. still think he walked on the moon. anyway.". Now, what happened in November is pretty. interesting. You know they have the NAB. convention in Vegas every year for. broadcasters, TV, microphones, and. whatnot. Then they have auto conventions. where you can drive the car that gets. 150 mi a gallon that never hits the. market. Well, they had an AI convention. in Moscow in November. And they had the most advanced AI not. available to the public, but available.

for the VIPs to play around with for 3. days. Vladimir Putin was there. It was. Google's neural network, multiple AIs. hooked up together. One team had it. write a symphony. I think it took about. a second and a half. Another had it. write a novel based on these plot. points. Took about a second and a half. And then the computer has this deep fake. detector that has never been wrong. You. can feed it a video of Trump or a video. of Biden. It'll tell you in 1 second. whether it's real or deep fake. So,

someone fed it pictures from the lunar. surface, from the unmanned. Chinese probes from 2014. It said. they're real. Then they fed them Apollo. picture after Apollo picture after. Apollo picture. It said all of them are. fake. It said the smartest day in the world. just said the moon landings are fake. And if you try to find the original. link, believe it or not, there's a. screenshot of it at sabrel.com.

It says if you proceed, all the data on. your computer will be stolen and you'll. be associated with child pornography. That's how desperate they are to bury. this. Now, let me answer the two number. one, you know, defenses of the moon. landing. Well, it involved hundreds of. thousands of people and that many people. can't keep a secret. Well, you got to. look a little deeper than that. Okay? The atomic bomb that was the biggest. secret of World War II, it involved. 129,500. people and only eight people knew what.

they were building. Imagine Bank of. America has 500,000 tellers. Do you think a bank teller and with the. CEO know about corruption in the bank. are identical? They're completely. different. Eugene Krantz, who I've. spoken to personally, flight director at. Apollo, said. someone in the command center at Houston. control can tell no difference. whatsoever between a simulation flight. and a real flight. It's just a bunch of. numbers going by on a screen. If they.

can't tell the difference, then I certainly can't tell the. difference as a 4-year-old, right? And. you can't tell the difference 20 years. later after the fact. You see, and then. this. it's the opposite. I think the bigger. the lie, the easier it is for people to. believe it because they can't comprehend. that someone would tell a lie that big. So, if you're going to tell a lie, tell. a whopper because they go, "Okay, what's. this I mean, why would a person. tell us that you'd have to be evil to. tell a lie this big, right?" And most. people want to believe in this. fundamental goodness. They want to.

believe that all the our governments are. fundamentally good, so they wouldn't lie. this big. So, I've always said, I mean, now we're we're we're in post-COVID. society, so now they realize governments. lie big. Like they go big in order to. accomplish what they want to get. accomplished. And so, I think the scales. are definitely falling from people's. eyes, and that no longer seems to be a. struggle. But, what does seem to be a. struggle for people is they say, "Oh, well, we were competing with Russia. Why. would Russia, if it was fake, the first. people that would have said it would. have been Russia?" I have a theory on. that, but I'd love to hear yours. Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to. say, Candace, because that's the only.

That's the really the only second. argument. Uh first, let me say, yeah, when I ask people, you know, why why. will you not accept that the moon. landings were fake, they said, "The. government wouldn't lie about something. that important." Right? They already. killed the president. They already. killed 58,000 of their soldiers, so. faking a video image is nothing to them, right? Well, here's the fact. I have a. friend who works in the command center. of the Chinese space agency. He told me, and I have a video of it at sabrel.com. somewhere,

that everybody there knows that the moon. missions are fake. They're blackmailing NASA for space. technology that Congress wrote a law. that says it's illegal to give China, but they're doing it anyway, so that they will not expose the moon. landing fraud. Putin was at the AI. conference. I have a video on my. homepage of him being shown the AI just. saying the moon missions are fake. Didn't look surprised at all. In fact, he looked scared.

that the truth will come out. You see, if I had a picture. of a world leader with a prostitute, I. could upload it to the internet and. bring down that person, and then it's. over. Or, I could blackmail them year. after year after year after year, and. that's what the smarter, shrewder. Soviets and Chinese are doing. Another. good reason for the truth to come out. You see, Well, so I'll say what my theory is on. that. Yeah. I actually think the Russians and the. Americans are coordinating with each. other, because everyone's forgetting.

about McCarthyism. What was the CIA? It. They got infiltrated by communists, and. it was real. McCarthyism, as we learn in. our textbook, is like, "Oh, he was just. paranoid and there were no commies.". People were arrested. You had a couple. that was put to death because of the. Rosenbergs that were put to death for. being commies. America got infiltrated. by communists and they secured power in. the CIA via blackmail, by the way. And this was something that JFK was. aware of. He spoke about the corruption. of the CIA so that he was going to, you. know, scatter it to the winds. And I believe.

that the communists successfully. infiltrated the CIA. And if they did. that, okay? If they successfully. infiltrated the CIA and this even gets. into Jack Parsons because he had a very. mysterious death and things that he was. saying before his death were quite. interesting. There would have been very. easy coordination between the communists. in Russia and the communists that were. in our government. I think our last. fight against communism was actually. when JFK was president. You know, I. think that's what we've been fighting. since Marxist, you know, Marxist ideas. and Marxist principles. We see this. coming down the pipeline today. Well,

where is it coming from? It's coming. from our government. You know, our. government is doing that. So, I I am of. the belief that there there may have. been some coordination between the two. and the space program and they were. aware that it was being faked and the. whole space race was actually just like. communist propaganda and they what they. were doing was just funneling cash. I. mean, obviously I don't have I'm just. telling you like my instinct about it. What are the more that I look into like. the communist infiltration, but I think. it's plausible. Now, China, that that. throws me for a loop because I can't see. how.

yeah, why China outside of blackmail, which blackmail was a huge tool of the. CIA. It still is a tool of the CIA. Um, would be okay with it. And you're. right, it is a very sophisticated system. of blackmail amongst our politicians in. America. And so, there's no doubt that. they would be doing that abroad as well. Well, we have the federal government. breaking their own laws. There's a law. that says it's illegal to deceive people. with television. That was done after the. quiz show scandal, right? There's a law. not to sell space technology to China, but they're doing that anyway. There's,

you know, they're killing their own. people. It's it's so odd. And the the. thing is this is what the news director. at NBC who refused to broadcast it for. fear it would cause a civil war, this. proof that I found of them faking being. halfway to the moon. But now I'm thinking maybe he's right. I. didn't believe him at the time. I. thought he was overreacting, but the the. moon landing fraud is even though it. probably killed fewer people, they say that JFK you know, witness list. that was knocked off was like 200. people.

And they have killed fewer people. Maybe. 20 people were killed to keep this a. secret. But it's would anger the public. That's. what he says that if the truth of the. moon landing fraud comes out, it will so. anger the public. It would be the final. thing that would bring it down the. corruptive system. And yet it's the very. thing that some podcasters are afraid to. talk about who claim they want to bring. down the corruptive system. They're not. using the number one tool. This is the.

linchpin, the finger out of the dike to. bring down the deep state because they. did fake the moon landing. And when. people see that candy turn into manure. rather than just changing hats on who. killed JFK, I think maybe the truth will come out. Maybe we need to pray. You know, the the. the rebuke of the Tower of Babel is out. there in the open, the unfinished tower. The rebuke of the Titanic, the ship that.

God himself cannot sink. Boy, they. shouldn't have said that one. But. Nixon's calling the lie. second in greatness only to God making. the universe. This rebuke hasn't come. out yet. And I pondered spiritually, well, why is that? You know, imagine if. there were a couple just got married, madly in love. One goes to a convention, gets, you know, insanely drunk, has an. affair. They come back. They either tell. them right away and say, "Look, I just. want to tell you the truth. Divorce me. if you will.".

Or they tell them on their 50th. anniversary. Maybe. there's a purpose in the delay. The. longer people believe the lie, defend. the lie with all of these videos, all of. these speeches, all of these offensives. Some say, "If you, you know, are so foolish to. believe the moon landing fraud, then it. colors everything else that you believe. Maybe you're wrong about that." Well, maybe they need to direct that toward.

themselves because they did fake the. moon landing. So, maybe if they're. deceived about that, maybe other things. that they believe are are wrong as well. And that's the sad and amazing thing. It's not a theory that they faked the. moon landing. We have all this proof. that they did. It only takes an open. mind. Go to zubreldotcom or maybe I. could read it. There's a quote. Uh so, someone who read my book on the. homepage, and he basically said, you.

know, he saw me on Rogan. He always. believed that the moon missions were. real, but I laid it out in such simple. terms. You can't have greater technology. in the past and in the future, shadows. intersecting at 90 degrees, lol. We. showed the clip that everyone agrees is. them faking being halfway to the moon, and we have an eyewitness, and we have. the AI saying so. He says, "Now I find. it absurd to believe that the moon. landings are real.". Yeah, once you actually look into it, and I think part of it is people only.

hear the one side. It happened, it. happened, it happened, and so it just. becomes a part becomes a founding myth. It's just something that you've been has. been ingrained in you, been. indoctrinated since your youth, and. you've never actually challenged that. because, like I said, most people go, "Well, what would be the point of them. doing that?" And also, why would all of. these nations coordinate? Again, not. something that people are questioning. now because we realize that we're facing. this globalized government. They all. seem to be coordinating to enslave the. people. So, people are willing to. confront that plausibility. All of a. sudden we're okay. Like obviously. there's a lot of evil stuff going on. Why do I think it's just starting now?

Clearly it started a long time ago. But. there are people that are implicated in. this that are still alive. And so I'm. going to ask you a couple of questions. First and foremost, Buzz Aldrin of. interest was a Freemason. So, they get. this this guy killed who was supposed to. be the first person to walk on the moon. in very mysterious fire after the CIA. visits the campus. These are all facts, broadly available facts people can look. up. Um and then they usher in new people. that are going to walk on the moon for. the first time. They they usher in Buzz. Aldrin. He does happen to be a. Freemason. He is still alive and he is.

still perceived as a hero. I struggle to. comprehend and maybe it's just my own. spirit, but you have to be. a coward. or a truly devilish in individual to. accept like awards and applause and. allow people to fawn over you for. something that you never did. And and. that just has to live inside you. I mean. every night you go to bed and you have. to know you are a fraud. And yet he has. done this for years. And the only time.

someone questions him on that, he puts a. Bible in his face. He loses his temper. and punches the guy in the face. Like. how is he doing this? Well, I have a friend who met him at a. party. in Los Angeles when he was super drunk. and he said, you know, we didn't go. And. Buzz told me, we've had private. conversations that he believes in God. and that's why he didn't swear on the. Bible that he walked on the moon. And he said the other day, I think he.

endorsed somebody for president and then. he had the audacity to say, "God bless. America." God is not going to bless. America. when its greatest accomplishment is a. lie. God's not going to bless America. when friends of his, Gus Grissom, and. White, Roger Chaffee, were murdered. because he cooperated. If he had. protested, if Buzz had protested, maybe. those people would still be alive. Maybe. the co-worker Cannon Air Force Base. would still be alive. So, the idea that. he can say God bless America, you know,

give me a break. And, you know, it was. when I called him a coward, which is when he punched me. He didn't. That was what really pierced him, but he. is. Of course, I have been, too. I've. been a coward, I've been a liar, I've. been a thief. I work every day to. you know, do what is right and and to. struggle against temptation. But, he is. And, the reason he is. is because he's afraid to look bad.

You see, the man who died. going to get murdered. No, I think he's afraid to look bad. Uh. that's it. It's a vanity. You see, he could become my hero if he told the. truth on his deathbed, just like Cyrus. Eugene Akers did. He said, "I'm a. murderer. I have to set things right.". He's afraid to look bad. He's told all. of his entourage and all of his fan, he's pulled out paper clips from his. closet that he claims were on the moon. and sold for hundreds of thousands of. dollars at Sotheby's auction, which is a.

fraud, right? You see, he's afraid to. look bad. That's what you're afraid of. You know, interesting thing about I. think it's the second chapter to the. last chapter Revelation, it lists a long. type list of behaviors that will prevent. you from entering eternal life. You. know, immorality and stealing and. drunkenness and all this, but you know. what's first on the list? The cowardly. Why did all these millions. of people take medicine for an illness. they didn't even have? Out of fear of.

death. And, I know four people who died. from that medicine. Immediately had a. reaction and immediately died. Four. people. Right? They were tricked. The Bible. says, I think it's Hebrews chapter 4, that the devil holds mankind in slavery. because of their fear of death. Why are. whistleblowers not coming forward? Because of their fear of death. My. source, who was at Cannon Air Force. Base,

his son, who I confirmed this. information with, days later, his house. was broken into by. I guess the CIA. He had security cameras. that he was password. They took. everything about his father, no proof, and then they came back a couple of days. later and threatened to kill him and his. family if he ever spoke about his. father's participation in the moon. landing fraud ever again. You see, there. are all these people in the government. who know the truth, who could come. forward and bring it down, but they're. afraid to lose their house, they're.

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need?" I mean, even the moon rocks, they've been able to determine how many. of these were completely fraudulent. And. you know, I think it ended up being like. petrified wood that they sent them and. just told them it was from the moon, which. Yeah, go on. Neil Armstrong says he personally picked. up this rock, put it in his pocket, and. personally delivered it to the Prime. Minister of the Netherlands. They sealed. it. The curator watched my movie, got. curious, opened it up after midnight. secretly, and it was petrified wood. And. so, all of this proof basically.

I I hate writing non-fiction. It's so. tedious. I spent 15 years writing my. book, 2 years editing it. And it's. interactive. There are 17 video clips. that you can see for free at sabrel.com, but if you want the book, it's in audio. that I read, Kindle or print. And I back. up with video clips everything that I'm. saying, including. a NASA employee saying that there's this. huge field of radiation that surrounds. the Earth that most people don't know.

about. It's 30,000 mi thick. Every. manned mission has been well below that. except going to the moon. And the. technology to go through the radiation. to the moon and survive has not been. invented yet. My name is Kelly Smith, and I work on. navigation and guidance for Orion. We are headed 3,600 mi above Earth. 15 times higher from the planet than the. International Space Station.

As we get further away from Earth, we'll. pass through the Van Allen belts, an. area of dangerous. radiation. Radiation like this could harm the. guidance systems, onboard computers, or. other electronics on Orion. Naturally, we have to pass through this. dangerous zone twice, once up and once. back. We must solve these challenges before we. send people through this region of. space.

Okay, so he just said we must solve. these radiation challenges before. we send people through this region of. space. That means the radiation. challenges have not been solved yet. They have to solve the radiation problem. before. they send people through this region of. space, and those problems have not been. resolved yet. So, how did the Apollo. astronauts go to the moon? When I asked. this guy for the Geiger counter readings. of the unmanned probe they sent it to.

the radiation, they said that was a. military secret. And I'm like, well, wait a minute, when you sent probes to. the sun to find out the temperature of. the sun, the temperature of the sun is. just nature, it's not a military secret. When they sent probes to Jupiter to find. out how much helium is in Jupiter's. atmosphere, that amount of helium is. just nature, it's not a military secret. So, why would the amount of radiation. surrounding the Earth be a military. secret? Because if they disclosed it, it. would prove that they didn't go to the. moon. The guy just said so, we must.

solve these challenges before we send. people through this region of space. I even saw that they were doing and I'm. saying it's obviously no, we're not. recording Mark, but that that they were. doing models in 2005 talking about how. they would have to solve to get through. the belt, and they were. on the NASA website they put up the. these proposed scenarios where they. could put you cinder blocks. And this is. 2005. It's like, what do you mean? Why. are you trying to put together scenarios. to get through the Van Allen belt? You're supposed to have done this 40. years ago. Um and that was something that was. included in the Wagging the Moon Doggy.

piece and he showed the bottles from a. NASA website which they eventually took. down because it kind of debunked that. they went there the first time. Like how. are we going to get through the Van. Allen belt? Um grappling with that in. 2005 doesn't really make sense. You. should have already have a solve for. that. Maybe because it's God. I didn't. God God speaks about the firmament. Maybe that's the firm the biblical. firmament. know. You know, the Earth could be a. triangle. I don't know. I don't care. Fortunately, geography a geography exam. is not necessary to enter eternal life.

The issue is not the shape of the Earth. The issue is the corruption of the. United States of America. the firmament beyond the Earth. Like not. being able to get past I'm saying maybe. that is the biblical firmament that you. can't get past that radiation. That could be it exactly. May maybe. that's the way God set it up that we'll. just stay here. You know, I don't know. But it's scary. when you have the most powerful nation. on Earth faking the greatest. accomplishment of mankind and you have. sincere people who are sincerely wrong.

defending the criminals that they abhor. Because they don't want to give up the. glorious moon landing. It's pride. It's. pride. People have to be willing to be. wrong. Every chapter of my book has a quote. I. read read one from Carl Sagan. Here's. one from Men in Black 3. Right? That. shows the Apollo launch home. It says. the bitterest truth is better than the. sweetest lie. You see? We have to have. that kind of heart. And then Mark Twain.

says it's easier to fool people than to. convince them that they have been. fooled. If a college professor is so in. love has made a god out of the moon. landing. He says an Apollo astronaut. confessing wouldn't deter his belief. He'd still think he walked on the moon. anyway. That's what we're up against. of that where the propaganda begins to. seep into people's minds. We talk about. this all the time like me and and my. producer and my director and you really. see that there's certain things that are. really aimed towards little boys and.

aimed towards little girls and there's. no question that like NASA being an. astronaut like. as well as dinosaurs. It's like that is. very much pushed on little boys from the. time that they're young and I think that. men in particular struggle with even. considering the plausibility that NASA. may not be real that you know the moon. landing might not be real. And it's. interesting because a former colleague. of mine we used to always debate this. like a friendly debate Matt Walsh and he. and really what it came down to is I I. would say Matt you are so willing to. recognize all the corruption of.

government. We have these conversations. all the time about government lying. about COVID. I find it so strange that. you won't let go of this one and he says. something and I think it's it's very. telling about where a lot of people are. on this. He says. well if this isn't real then what you're. saying is that the greatest feat of. mankind didn't actually happen. The. greatest feat of American isn't actually. real and what does that say about. America? And I think it's that question. that they're not willing to confront. because what it actually means is that.

uh that greatness is a bit it's. fraudulent. That's that is the truth. like the greatest thing we ever did was. trick the world into believing that we. did something. And I do think that is that is hard to. wrestle with. can go back the country can go back. to a a noble country that's admirable. but the only way to do that is to. confess the sin. You can't keep painting. over the mold. You have to acknowledge. it and get rid of it. It's odd that that. person thinks there'd be a conspiracy to.

deceive people about an illness going. around the world even though the former. vice president of a certain. pharmaceutical company says there it. wasn't a reason you know for what they. did and that he believes the you know. medicine is not good for you and that it. may kill people instead. He thinks that. people are willing to kill millions of. people, but not fake a video image. You. see how how it's bonded into people's. heart that the moon landing is real. it is embedded into your heart. If anyone who becomes president of the.

United States really wants to get the. public support behind them, they need to. from day one. acknowledge that the moon missions are. fake, force Buzz Aldrin to confess, or. throw him in jail. And acknowledge who shot JFK, and. acknowledge who didn't it from the very. beginning. Start with the moon landing. fraud. Start with the one that's going. to get people's attention. Tell them. tell the world they did do it. Let's set. things right. You'll he'll have 90% or.

she'll have 90% of the people behind. them as president if they try to set. things right, but you have to confess. Uh you can't keep sweeping it under the. rug, or you're complicit to that. particular crime. We have a you mentioned before that we. have a list of people who were at Cannon. Air Force Base. Some of them are still. alive. I thought I have it here. Let's. just read that list. You know, President. Johnson was on the top of the list. My. source, Cyrus Eugene Akers, was the.

chief of security at Cannon Air Force. Base. Now, every branch of the military. has their intelligence special ops. division. And the you know, the Army. does, the Navy does, and the United. States Air Force's special ops division. is at Cannon Air Force Base. My guy was. the chief of security securing the most. greatest secret of all time. President. Johnson gave him a list. These 15 people. are allowed in to observe, and no one. else. President Johnson, this is.

probably why he didn't run for. re-election when he was eligible, cuz. they were going to fake the moon. landing. And who knew you would get away. with that one if he got caught? Didn't. want to have anything to do with that. Neil Armstrong was there, but only as an. observer. They used a double in the TV. pictures. Edwin Aldrin Jr., Buzz Aldrin, was there. Wernher von Braun, former Nazi, who, according to the State. Department, was about to be thrown in. jail, but then he died. Right? Robert. Emmenegger, never heard of this guy.

This guy's an uh science fiction. consultant for the military. He's being. used by the government to trick people. into believing in UFOs. This guy who. goes around saying UFOs are real, well, his number one source that they're real. is the Apollo astronauts told himself. So, this disclosure about aliens, if. they if if they wanted to keep aliens a. secret, it would be a secret. So, the. fact that they're disclosing it means. they're trying to trick you into. believing that there are aliens. Eugene.

Cernan, flight director, he was there. James Webb, a NASA administrator, was. there. Joseph Kerwin, he was a future uh NASA. astronaut. Thomas Paine was the NASA. deputy administrator. Glenn Lunney, he. was a flight director. Christopher. Kraft, he was a mission control founder. James Van Allen, okay? We have a clip at. sabrel.com just uploaded it, where he. says originally it was published in. scientific journal 1959,

he says the radiation surrounding the. Earth that you have to go through to the. moon is 100 times greater than a lethal. dose. He was there. Arthur Trudeau was. Army Intelligence. A person by the name. of Donald Slayton, we think they're Navy. Intelligence and Grant Norway, we think. maybe they're CIA. Some of these people. are alive. I contacted uh some of these people. before I published the book uh. because somebody asked me to to let them.

know I was about to publish their name, and that provoked my sources' house. being broken into and him being. threatened. So, I think. Wow. there are good guy spies following the. bad guy spies and that's why they wanted. me to let them know I had their name on. this list and we certainly got a. reaction out of them. So, I don't know. It's It's so sad that this is our. country. I remember Candace, like I. said, I'm the fan boy, right? When I. popped in that tape that said don't show. to the public and I'm like, you know,

that's not a a one-foot model of the. earth, is it? No, surely not. But the. lights come up and it is. I just wept. I'm like, oh my gosh, they really did fake the. moon landing. Mhm. How sad is that? I'm a patriot. I want. America to be an honorable country and. we have to confess our sins. If the CIA. killed Kennedy, let's just say so. Either keep the CIA, you know, reform it. or get rid of it or do something else. If we faked the moon landing, let's just.

say so, right? I'm not against space. travel. We should probably try to care. of every human being on earth, make sure. they have a concrete floors and indoor. plumbing. Surprisingly, Bill Gates. doesn't go to Africa and give people. plumbing and concrete floors, he gives. them injections. But I'm not sure what. that's all. it's funny you bring that up because. well, because that was that was the. moment for me that cracked it all open. Um you know, comprehending a lie that. could be so big and so sinister for me. where it was vaccines. I was vaccine. injured, then I started looking into. vaccines and I realized that the science.

behind it was completely fraudulent and. they were actually making kids sick and. doing so intentionally knowing that the. whole vaccine industry, the history that. they tell you of how they stomped out. polio. I mean, it is this one of the. established founding myths of big. pharma. We eradicated polio. And so, once I came to terms with that, like how. wrong I could be on something, like. calling people anti-vaxers or believing. they were all crazy when in reality. these people were telling the truth. Uh. I then came to terms with I I think it. was it humbled me. It I had humility. I.

was willing to even if I arrive at a. different conclusion, I will listen to. something that I think is crazy. Like I. don't believe that the earth is flat, but I wouldn't I wouldn't dismiss a flat. earther in the way that I would have 10. years ago because of this vaccine thing. And so that humility allowed me in many. ways just open my mind. And you. sometimes you'll hear stuff you look. into and you go, "No, I still think. that's pretty crazy." But the moon. landing was one where I always felt it. was not right. And then I looked into it. and I was like, "No, this just actually. didn't happen." Like that wasn't not. even something that was was a struggle. for me to get there. And then.

comprehending really. this era of C.S. Lewis type scientism. that we're in where really what they're. doing is establishing a church, a faith. Science has now become a faith. It is. not a true science. And you know, it's. just believe, trust the experts, trust. NASA, trust this. And to the point where. we're now at a place people won't. believe their own eyes. Like you said, even if you. you showed them how they faked it. He's. like, "I still wouldn't believe it. I'm. so committed into this in my heart to. this founding myth that I'm not willing. to undo it." You know, that's.

incredible. That really tells you the. the success of modern psychology. Them. recognizing that if you turn something. into a movie, if you you know, do the. movie Apollo 13 and you get people. crying in a theater and you teach them. in the classroom from the time they're. young and you sell them spaceships and. t-shirts that say NASA and also the. Challenger thing looking into that is. crazy. That also seems to be a sort of. weird thing that happened. But you know, you get everyone to watch these moments. I mean, you're talking about mass scale. propaganda which has been studied by the.

CIA for a very long time and I have no. doubt in my mind that the moon landing. hoax was a major piece of that, especially when you look into everything. that they were up to in the '60s. I. mean, MK Ultra, Charles Manson, there. was just too much crazy stuff going on. with the CIA in the '60s for me to. believe. But the one thing they really. kept above board was the NASA program. The Apollo program was above board. But. yeah, they were drug drugging everybody. with LSD, you know, faking the Charles Manson. thing involved in there, but and but. they were above board on the on the moon.

landings. Absolutely not. That doesn't. make any sense. People don't realize that. No. eyewitnesses, only a TV picture. controlled by the federal government, and everyone wanting to believe the lie. Richard Nixon said the greatest. was there for takeoff in person? Well, no, for takeoff, yeah, but I'm. talking about actually what they claim. they did is on the moon. They had to go. up, you know, to at least, you know, do. as much as they could. They just never. left Earth's orbit. That's why 55 years. later they still can't leave Earth's.

orbit. That's why there's mannequins. orbiting the moon. They said in 2014 and. 2018 they'd have people orbiting the. moon. 100% behind schedule, years that. later they have mannequins orbiting the. moon because they would be killed. because of the radiation. Their own. employee says so. It's one of the clips. at sibrel.com. And it just boggles the. mind. It's right there. He says the. technology to survive the trip to the. moon has not been invented yet. And Nixon said the greatest threat in.

1969 to America wasn't China, wasn't. Russia, it was people protesting the. federal government over the Vietnam War. So they gave them a pep rally. The code. name, according to my source, was. personally created by President Johnson. He called the fake moon landing code. name slam dunk because if you fake the. moon mission, you can have a 100%. guarantee of success. So it's a slam. dunk. And so they guaranteed it. They. gave everybody something to cheer about,

something to unite the country. And. everyone wanted to believe it, and. everyone assumed that the government. would tell the truth, and yet it was so. easy. If a controller in the command. center can't tell the difference between. a real flight and a simulated one, and. there's no independent press coverage, and it's that fuzzy little picture, Why. did Gilligan's Island go from black and. white to color in 1964, but the most. technologically advanced organization,

NASA, has a fuzzy black and white. picture on the moon? I wonder why. They. don't have a sharp as picture as. Gilligan's Island. I wonder why. Because. it would reveal the fake sets. In fact, uh I think it was Ron Howard's. grandfather warned him that the moon. landings were fake, but he wouldn't. listen. He grew up, you know, with. Apollo toys. He wanted to make this IMAX. movie. showing all the Apollo footage at the. highest resolution possible. So, he goes. to NASA. They say, "Well, give us a. couple of days." And 2 days later they.

say, "We accidentally lost and erased. all of the original videotapes." Right. before he transferred them to HD. Then. there's a clip you can see on my website. of NASA's own employees saying they. intentionally destroyed all of the. Apollo equipment, all of the schematics, all of the hardware, all of the. engineering, all of the original. telemetry, all of the original. videotapes. Now, if Bill Gates spent an equivalent of. $250 billion.

to build the first supercomputer and it. worked great, do you really think he. would throw it in a furnace and all the. diagrams on how it got built? No. You. know, maybe they should have done that. with the atomic bomb, but like I said, 10 years later they're a thousand times. more powerful. So, why would they. destroy everything? If you really went. to the moon. and really spent an equivalent of $250. billion, the last thing you would do. would be to destroy all the. documentation, but that's exactly what. they did. Which is only what you would.

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you said, they would have been so keen. to preserve every piece of that because. like they they made human history. I. mean, they were they they were next to. God according to them and you're right, that is blasphemous. You know, I do want to ask you as a. final really big question here because. I've grappled with this myself and I. don't know where I land at because I I. so am committed to the idea that the. moon landings are completely fraudulent. and that it's been a hoax and we will. direct people to your website and I will. also give them the article that I read, which was laugh out loud funny. It was. called Wagging the Moon Doggy and it.

essentially says the exact same thing. that, you know, they wanted to go to. war, they needed a distraction, people. were upset and it gave them a. distraction to and they even wanted the. to pretend they got stuck on Apollo 13. because then they were super distracted. when they stopped being interested in. the moon landings. But uh um. Elon Musk. Let's talk about Elon Musk, okay? Because. you know, I think what he did with X is. heroic, freeing the bird, saving speech, in my opinion. I think he's a brilliant. I struggle to.

believe that someone with his mind. would believe the moon landing. I just. struggle to believe that. He He knows. he's done these space missions. He knows. that he has not been able to get past. the Van Allen belt or that a manned. mission, like he could not do that. himself if he wanted to, a manned. mission beyond the Van Allen belt. And. yet he says, "Of course, of course the. moon landing happens.". What do you make of that? never seen I've never seen a clip of him. saying, "Of course.".

He tweeted it. I saw it and I He. responded to my I think it was my buddy. Matt Walsh and he was like, "Of course. it happened.". my lifetime, what what I saw. is him saying the Apollo missions are a. historical anomaly, meaning they're out. of place, logically according to. technological development. The fact is, he's a billionaire who has his dreams. and he can spend billions of dollars. buying X, losing money, buying rockets, whatever. He has dreams. he wants to fulfill. Why not? If I were. a billionaire, I'd make all my feature.

films I want to make. The fact is, he needs the federal. government's cooperation. Right. He needs NASA's cooperation. Mhm. I think. to do. So, he's not going to rock the. boat. Mhm. He said it's a historical anomaly. I I. know that he knows that they didn't go. to the moon. I know he has a copy of my. book. So, he knows we didn't go to. he He used to in the past say more, but. now it seems like he's kind of towing. the line a bit more. Here's what he actually did say, okay?

He said in order to go to the moon, they're going to have to make a minimum. of eight fuel trips first. Okay. So, how did they go on one rocket? One. of the things we disclose in my book is. the original findings of von Braun. He. says the idea to go to the moon in one. rocket is ludicrous. It will take a minimum of three rockets. each weighing 800,000. tons. The Saturn V.

only weighed 2,500 tons, not. And the maker of Saturn V also said that. it couldn't get them to the moon. There's a TED Talk. The guy says in. order to go to the moon, it may take up. to 24. fuel trips. We don't know. So, the. rocket could not leave Earth orbit. Von. Braun said so in his own writing. He. said these numbers are mathematically. irrefutable. I have a video at sabral.com of him.

saying a space station has to be built. first, and you have to ferry up fuel. Okay. I guess to not throw them in jail. in 1969, which they're about to do years. later, they blackmailed him into. participating in the fraud. So, why is. it. as things get more efficient, we now. need eight to 24 rocket fuel trips to go. to the moon when we could do it with. 1969 technology in one rocket? You see. that? So, he said two statements that.

indicate that he knows better. He says. it's an historical anomaly, meaning that. technology is out of place sequentially, which it is, cuz they can only go 1/1000. of the distance to the moon today with. five decades better technology. And then. he said you're going to need eight fuel. trips first. Uh, you didn't need that with the 1960s. equipment. What's the problem here? You. see? So, I He knows that they didn't go. to the moon, and he's trying to play. ball cuz he wants, you know, to have.

NASA's and. government contracts now, and I think. that's it cuz if you you're right, if. you look in the past, he kind of drops. these little nuggets to make it seem. like he kind of knows moon landing. didn't happen. Then you fast forward to. like the last 2 years, and he I'm pretty. sure he tweeted like, I don't understand. people who don't think the moon landing. didn't happen or something like that. It. just seems like he's kind of towing a. different line now, which is fine. I. just wanted to bring it to your. attention because, you know, I think. people have looked to him as someone. who's really just willing to stand up to. the deep state because of what he did. with X, and now they're starting to ask. questions like did even he kind of go, "Okay, I'm tired of fighting these.

dragons and just like I've just got to. give them one thing and just say, "Okay, I I will cowtow to the moon landing. narrative." I I hope not, but I am. totally on board with you, and we are. going to obviously show all of the clips. that you spoke about today throughout. this episode. We'll be going back and. editing it in if you guys are watching. that, that's why. you may see some clips being jumped in. And I just want people to know where. they can go. You've mentioned the. website a few times. If you could just. spell it so that they know where they. can go to look at these clips and to.

find your documentary. Yeah, just my last name.com. S as in S A. M I B as in B O Y R E L S I B R E L. dotcom. My 15 years of writing is in. this book, which contains probably 30. years of research. It's an interactive. book. It's an audio that I read myself, Kindle or print, and all the links you. can see right now at sabrel.com. Well, thank you so much. Ladies and. gentlemen, if you are listening to this, this is the power of thinking, and like. I say, what I always want to do is give.

you the permission to think, to think. about these topics that are deemed. otherwise obscure. If you're just. opening your mind to this possibility, do your own research, conduct your own. research, bend your mind like a pretzel. You may come to conclusion like, "No, this absolutely did not happen." like I. did, or you may say, "You know what, Candace, I heard you. It was an. interesting episode, and I still think. they did happen." That's okay. Let's. bring back the ability to think and the. ability to think critically on your own, independently, and to come to your own. conclusions. I remain a moon landing did.

not happen stand. I'm not going to ever. change my mind on that. So, write ahead. write out write your articles. journalists, call me a total cook for. not believing in your settled science. You get way too angry about it for me to. believe a single shred of what you were. saying. Take that Bill Maher. We'll see. you guys tomorrow.