Harvey Speaks: Exclusive Interview On His Retrial

Well, Harvey, it's good to speak with. you again. >> Nice to hear your voice, Candace, and. see you. >> How are you feeling? >> Well, you know, it was a mixed up trial. You know, we had jurors, you know, uh um. you know, in the middle of the trial say. they didn't want to be there. And um I. mean at you know towards the end of the. trial you know it got very very serious. with one of the jurors and uh who just. said I won't be in the same room with. the people who are making the decision.

And uh you know uh I have spoken to five. or six judges uh three or four close. friends of mine. Some I just know and uh. and they have never experienced what we. experienced in the courtroom with three. jurors complaining about the proceedings. as they were going on. Yeah, I was following that in the news. and obviously the the jurors were pretty. explicit to the judge that they felt. that there was intimidation that some of.

them were being mistreated according to. um whether they were coming on one side. of the issue or the other. And so I was. very surprised and I I tweeted actually. out on X I don't see how they can't say. this is declared this an immediate. mistrial and they didn't. They didn't. declare it an immediate mistrial. >> Well, we wanted it declared a mistrial. Arthur Ayadala, my head lawyer. Arthur. and Diana are fabulous. And Mike Sabella. and Jennifer Bonine, I had a fabulous. team. They rose and, you know, said one. time after another, this is a definite.

mistrial. And at one point, I was, you. know, frustrated and I addressed the. judge myself and I said, "Your honor, this is a matter of a profile and. courage. It's not important enough to. keep the trial going. Something is. radically wrong here. When there are. playground tactics, when somebody is. being threatened, I'll take you outside. and we'll settle this outside. That's. not the way to settle uh somebody's. life. In in this case, my life.

>> Why do you think the judge didn't. declare a mistrial? >> I I have no idea. I have no idea. whatsoever. I think he maybe thought he. could power through it, but you can't. power through those things. Those things. are too important. >> You know, Harvey, I have to say on some. matters, I think that you remain, I. would almost say optimistic when it. comes to the court system, even in. making a plea to the judge. And I can.

just tell you on the outside looking in. with a lot of the cases that are. happening, you know, there's there's big. news regarding the Epstein case that, you know, they're just kind of going to. leave it alone and we're not going to. get any client list. There's been the. Diddy case which happened last week and. um he got great news despite. overwhelming video evidence uh that one. of his producers had and even with. Justin Baldoni, you know, elements of. his case getting dropped that people. feel are unfair. Um all of these having. having taken place majority in New York,

people are wondering if the the system. is even fair, forgetting your case, but. just taking a look at everything on a. large larger picture. Is there something. rotten in the New York system? >> Well, I I I certainly am, you know, sickened by the results. You know, there's no reason that with this trial. shouldn't be a mistrial. And so you can. add me to those voices, you know, who. feel that something's wrong with the. system. This is a terrible outcome.

>> But have you have you considered that it. could be deeper than that? And I know. that I've asked you this offline, but. that there was somebody who wanted you. put away, that there may have been. someone who wanted your company. I mean, these are genuinely the questions that I. have asked myself when looking at your. case because to me, there is just. overwhelming evidence that you were set. up here. Like there's just no objective. look at the evidence in my view that you. could come away going Harvey Weinstein. is definitively guilty and someone like.

Diddy who we have on camera beating a. woman is definitively not guilty. I just. I have to ask you that question. >> Well, I just have to say that you know. the district attorney in this situation. is relentless. They will spend and have. spent millions of dollars. They flew to. Australia to confirm with one of their. to confer with one of their clients. They flew to Washington State to confer. with the other one of their clients. They will spend whatever it takes to.

spend they hired uh an expert witness. who told the jury that it's okay for. Mimi to have uh to to quote say that I. raped her and then have consensual sex. with me two weeks later. You know that. that was normal. a at $750 an hour plus. expenses. You're hardressed to find. anybody who wouldn't say what that. expert said for that kind of money. But. they said it in the court and the.

district attorney paid it. I am sure. when they got paid through with that. bill, you know, I mean, at $750 an hour, you're talking about $50,000. to get an expert witness to say that. it's okay to have consensual sex with. your rapist. common sense. Common sense. was thrown out the window. You can buy. anything. And apparently the DA bought. that that that instruction, that advice. was paid for.

>> And and that's what I'm saying, Harvey. Like I said, I've looked at this case. deeply, and it looks to me like a. modern-day hit. And I'm sorry to say. that. I I genuinely think that for. whatever reason, I don't know who you. upset. I don't know what they were. after, but it just looks to me like a. rigged system and they took you out. And. there are some a cast of characters are. involved that make me uncomfortable. I. mean, Gloria Allred's name. I don't know. that she's ever lost a case. And I I. think back to even when Michael Jackson. was was trying to publicly signal, and.

again, this is all allegedly, he's no. longer alive, that Gloria Allred was a. part of sort of this team of people who. can just take people out when they want. to. And I can't ignore that. I can't. ignore those things. I can't ignore. what's happening to you. I can't ignore. the overwhelming evidence. It to me it. looks like it was just a show trial and. the outcome was already determined. before you even stepped into that. courtroom. >> Well, Gloria Alred came to me with Mimi. when she first announced Mimi's trial. She went to my lawyers and said, "For. $750,000,

pay us off and we'll go away.". And we didn't pay him, you know, because. we thought it was absolute nonsense. and. and also there were term limits at that. point, but she made a deal with the. district attorney to wave the term. limits in return for Mimi's testimony. So, I mean, a deal was made by Gloria. Alred. Gloria Alred is the villain and. one of the villains here and she made. the deal to prove what you say is true.

>> And that to me is not unlike the. structure of a modern gang. you know, you pay us. You pay us and you'll be. fine. If you don't pay us, then you're. going to have trouble. And it looks like. you walked away from the deal. You could. given her $750,000 and she would have. gone away and you opted not to. And you. have been fighting for your life ever. since. You know, it's it's one of these. things that, like I said, the. conversation is very different from when. you went in and this conversation would. have been impossible a few years ago. But people are starting to see that this.

isn't a coincidence that this keeps. happening, that the same characters are. involved from even the publications. I. mean the New York Times, you Justin. Baldoni, you know, they publish a piece. absent a lot of information and then. suddenly the attack dogs are out in full. force. Well, even the New York Times in this. situation, you know, amazing as it is, you know, I mean, with the with the. investigation that's going on with the. New York Times, they did a piece about. the jurors and what the jurors went.

through on this trial, and they had four. or five jurors and their testimony to. the incredible nature of being. threatened by one another during this. trial. So, I mean, the New York Times, you know, just to bring it up is there's. an a young man named Clark Patterson who. just wrote an article about the New York. Times and wrote an article about the two. journalists who wrote the first hit. piece on me. And I think if you tangle. with the New York Times, you're dead.

You know, I mean, they have infinite. resources and they will call up those. resources and they will go after you no. end. And he wrote a piece, you know, he. had the courage to write a piece. It's. in MSN and it's on Medium. The full. 17,000 words is on Medium. And and. nobody nobody is out there rushing to. publicize the fact that the New York. Times original piece about me was wrong, you know, and the Ashley Juds of this.

world and the other and the Rose. McGawans and all what they said was. [ __ ] I mean, nonsense. Excuse my. language, you know. and uh this reporter. captured all that, but there's no public. outcry, you know, uh with his piece, but. I think he's going to get there. I think. slowly but surely it's working its way. up through the system, but it's slow. >> Yeah. And you my you will definitely. find a sympathetic audience wi with with. my audience because we speak about this.

often. I think the only way that we can. make sense of the present is to look at. the past. And I have examined the New. York Times through the lens of how they. were created. I mean, we've been. wrongly, I think, deluded to believe. that journalists are sort of this like. fourth estate that they protect against. corruption. They're a part of the. corruption. Historically, the New York. Times had a relationship with the CIA. That is just a fact. It is a fact that. is available at anybody's fingertips. They are an extension of the state. Um, and so that is why when I when I ask you. those questions and I was not surprised. when they chopped up Justin Baldon's.

lawsuit because he went after the New. York Times. You can't win against the. New York Times. judges have lost going. after the New York Times saying that the. New York Times was defaming them as I've. shown on my show. When I look at that. and I think that the New York Times was. initially uh the people behind them went. after you, I do think that you stepped. on somebody's toes like there's. somebody's toes that you stepped on that. you may not have been aware of when you. were in Hollywood because you had a lot. of power. You had a lot of power. >> I agree with you, Candace. You know,

looking back on it, you know, there are. definitely people, you know, I can't say. who. >> Why not? Why can't you say who? What do. you have to say? >> Because I'm not sure that I'm right. You. know, >> you say I think. >> maybe. >> I I I will say that I think there are. people whose toes I stepped on. And I. will also say I think there are. politicians whose toes I whose toes I. stepped on. And as a result of the two. forces mingling together and you throw. in the New York Times and you have.

enormous prejudice against me and an. enormous fight against me and an. enormous. I I don't know what to say, you know, you know, just a force against me of all. these forces coming together. But it's. weakening. It's weakening. It's. weakening because of you and and I I. can't tell you that having done your. interview how many people come up to me. in whatever little street cred credence.

I have now. Cops come up to me, workers. come up to me wherever I'm at, wherever. I'm out, people come to me and say, "I. saw you on Candace. I saw you on. Candace. Keep up the good work. Keep up. your good work because you're cracking. that system." And Clark Patterson is out. there cracking that system, too. You. know, they it it won't it won't permeate. forever and it's not as strong as it. thinks it is. >> It's not and and we're seeing that the. fraying is happening now, but I really.

want to push you on this point, Har, because I think I think it's very. significant. Who were the politicians. toes that you stepped on? I'm not we're. not making any allegations against them, but I it certainly is it's interesting. It would be an interesting rabbit for me. to chase to know which politicians you. think you may have upset because I'm. telling you the New York Times is an. extension of the state. >> Well, I think that um you know with the. Ombro situation, you know, I mean, I got. off with a mis not even a misdemeanor. I.

just got off with a you know, you know, just an understanding that Amber was an. unreliable witness. This is the woman. who taped me, made the telephone call, set me up with the police officers, and. the police officers wanted to prosecute. me. And I think that um as a result of. me getting off, what I had was I got. jurisdiction in Italy. And in Italy, I. got my people to go to the judge in. Italy and open up sealed paperwork which.

admitted that when she was 17 years old, she was living in a house paid for by. her pimp, $5,000 a month, and getting. $1,000 a month sexual congress for. having sex with this guy. Not her pimp, I guess, her boyfriend, you know, you. know, whatever. But she was paid for. sex. And then she also went to a party, a bunga bunga party with the prime. minister of Italy, Burleskonei. And she.

also complained to the press about that. She later on said her boyfriend raped. her in Italy and she had huge, huge. press. So when this situation happened. with me, she just wanted huge press and. she got huge press. She became a famous. person. But when I got off, Cyrus Vance, who is the district attorney, was. accused of leniency in my situation. And. then when the New York Times published.

its piece, they went after me held to. leather. So, I think Cyrus Vance was one. of those people who wanted to see me, you know, uh um you know, screwed and uh. and certainly went out of his way, you. know, I mean, with an incredible, you know, force that they put together. in this district attorney's office to. convict me the first time. >> I've said it before and I'm going to say. it again that I am pro-life. That means. standing with mothers before their baby. is born and long after. That's exactly.

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people and she had Yeah. >> She had a very interesting take on. things. She says a lot and I think that. there is a lot of sense to what she what. she shares. And something that she was. speaking to me about regarding cases is. that she said that in Hollywood she was. aware that sometimes. uh the press will go after someone and. she wasn't referring to your case. because they want publishing rights. Like she's like you know a person grows. too big or they they own a catalog of.

something and then they'll start making. up rumors about this person. The next. thing you know he's forced to sort of. sell his company. Kind of similar by the. way with what happened with Michael. Jackson. If you take a look at that case. he had almost owned the the Beatles. catalog. he was definitely fighting Sony. and winning. And then suddenly these. allegations began swirling. And so in my. mind, I thought, you know, Harvey. Weinstein, he had a lot. I mean, you had. the greatest movies that that were in. Hollywood. You had a lot of power. And. I'm wondering if there was anybody in. Hollywood that you may have been. fighting with at that time, like whether. it was, you know, another producer or.

another company or or an individual that. just anything that could have been going. on because I think there's something. bigger happening here. There wasn't a. fight per se, but nobody enjoyed my the. inner sanctum of Hollywood did not enjoy. my success. The people enjoyed my. success. The people who went to movies, the young filmmakers, you know, the. people who believed that they could do. it too if they just had an opportunity. to do it. But the establishment I would.

not say was my friends. >> Right. And and who what is the. establishment in Hollywood? It's. normally the big studios, you know what. I mean? And uh and it's, you know, it's. the big studios, but I I can't say that. they put me into a New York Times. article, you know? I can't I I can say. that there was animosity, but I can't. say that they were part of this, >> right? No, I'm just wondering like who. in the end who owns all those movies. now? Who owns who owns your catalog?

What happened? We sold the we sold the. catalog to um uh a company called Bin, you know, I mean, which is owned by the. Qatari government. >> And uh and um we sold the other part of. the library to a company called Spy. Glass and Lantern, which is owned by the. Saudi Arabian uh government. >> Very interesting. I'm asking these. questions because my investigation into. this isn't going isn't going to stop. with the conclusion of your trial. I.

just think that there was something more. sinister that was happening. I've always. had that instinct and on the basis of. things that I've just been reading this. year about Hollywood and the things that. have happened, I I do think that it was. very intentional. So, what happens now. with your case? What happens now with my case is that. Arthur Ayadala is, you know, I mean, circling the wagons and, you know, I. mean, and interviewing the jurors, you. know, we're doing the interviews. ourselves and obviously we have the.

right to bring this situation back up. and hopefully the court will listen, but. I'm not sure that they will. You know, they have they they they might just turn. us down again and just say, "Forget. about it." Even with all this publicity, even with all the sturman drang of these. jurors, you know, the court might just. say, "Look, they made an opinion. You. know, the verdict sticks and you've got. to pay the price." So, you know, the. district attorney in Jennifer Man's.

Jessica Man's situation, we had a hung. jury and the district attorney wants to. immediately prosecute that again. They. want to go again. And Jessica Man wants. to go again, which just shows how. absolutely offthe-wall Jessica Man is. She just wants to continue and continue. and continue. No matter how much she has. to get on that witness stand, it's her. life. It's become her identity. You.

know, it the the victimhood is so strong. with who she identifies with. This was a. failed actress and as a result, you. know, I mean, in Hollywood, she didn't. get what she wanted. But I was always. kind to her. I was always sweet to her. I opened the doors for her. It's just. sometimes I always said to them, "I'll. open the door, but you have to go. through it. It's your talent that wins. the game." Even one of her best friends. said she didn't go to acting school. She.

didn't pursue it the way you know the. great actresses of today and yestery. year went to schools. You you hear about. all the Jane Fonda Actor Studio, Merl. Street, Bal Drama School. You I mean the. the the credentials of these actresses. that have succeeded or unsurpassed the. work that they put into their own. personal careers. And yet there were. people like Jessica man who just wanted.

it to come for free, you know, or wanted. it to come through knowing me and or. networking at parties that I invited her. to. Well, now she's made now her I she. got paid $475,000, you know, which is more money than she's. ever seen. Uh uh Mimi Ha, Miriam H got. $475,000. And the girl who the jury voted not. guilty got $3 million. >> Unbelievable.

>> $3 million. >> From the Walt Disney Company. She lied. She lied. She was not She was found not. I was found not guilty and she lied and. she put $3 million in her pocket. >> I mean, it's one of those things that if. the public could read all of their. emails, it's it's stunning to me. I. don't know how they put their heads on. their pillow at night. You know, they if. they have any sense of faith, I mean, hell is an eternity. It's it's scary to. me that you could switch so quickly from.

I love you and excs xxx and smooches and. I see Harvey like a father to suddenly. being on the stand. I mean, just so many. emails. I couldn't read them all. I I. literally did not have the time, Harvey, to commit to reading all of the emails. because that's how many there are after. their alleged quote unquote sexual. assaults or rapes. And for that to be. the case, to have an overwhelming. catalog of evidence that shows that this. relationship was consensual, and to have.

the public then be told, "Oh, no, actually, but this one time it maybe. wasn't, and we have no evidence of that. other than their word." It should. terrify everyone. That is why this case. is so important to me because I have. three sons, right? And we can't live in. a world where women can essentially. throw out their bodies like it's the. casting couch. That's what they wanted. They wanted an exchange. These these are. sugar baby relationships. And then, you. know, I'm going to re [ __ ] on that. because I didn't become the next. Angelina Jolie. And so now I'm saying.

that actually I was I was raped. >> Well, Jess, you know, Jessica man did. exactly what you're talking about. Mimi. Hale did exactly what you're talking. about and Kaya did exactly what you're. talking about. You know, there are there. are emails that are filled with good. thought, you know, and there's nothing. there's not one disagreement on any of. those emails. There's no like Harvey, you were rude to me at a party or you. didn't let me in or you didn't get me.

invited somewhere. They would ask me for. tickets and even if it was an impossible. situation, you could see through the. emails the effort that was made to get. them into the event. >> You know, I I took these, you know, even. after the relationships ended, I took it. seriously that they that there were. friendships here and that these were. people who wanted to get into the. industry and it was trying to do my part. to help them get into the industry. But. Ka broke my heart. We got her into the.

Lee Strawber Institute, the toughest. school for acting in New York, and she. was modeling and making good money, and. she said she couldn't afford to go. I. mean, but we got her in, and she just. should have gone, but she didn't go. She. didn't put the work in. >> It's unbelievable. It is. It truly is. unbelievable. And I can imagine that. it's it's difficult for your family to. have to go through this. Um, but are you. optimistic on the outcome that you know. once you once Arthur shows that this.

clearly should have been declared a. mistrial that they might do the right. thing here? C. >> Candace, I I like you say with the. system the way it is, I I'm not I'm not. optimistic and I'm not pessimistic. I'm. somewhere in the middle. I don't know. what's going to happen. I really don't. know what's going to happen. It's, you. know, it's it's like I said to the judge. the first time, it's a profile and. courage, you know, to the judge. >> I don't and I don't think that these I.

think there are people way above their. pay grades that that make these sorts of. decisions and I mean, we're we're. speaking about that today on the podcast. and we've been covering all of this, but. you know, we're going to continue to. cover this this case, Harvey, and you. know, hopefully the right thing will. happen here. If nothing else, this has. contributed to an international. conversation about what the Me Too. movement is, about the fact that people. don't actually get justice when they go, you know, when they go through the court. system. I would say, especially in New. York and Los Angeles, there seems to be.

a particular strand of corruption that I. can't quite figure out. Um, and like I. said, you have a case where Justin. Baldon is even seeing the results of. that and he did nothing but try to make. a movie with a woman that he adored, which was Blake Lively, and has had his. life just rad through the coals. >> Well, recently, Candace, the. international part of what you say is. actually happening. There's a fissure. there. And what happened was in Italy in. the in my in my case in Los Angeles.

which is under appeal for Eugenia. Chernichova. the man Pascal Basadimi is now on trial. for perjury in Italy. So, you know, we. are hoping that we win the perjury trial. and rather than have to go through the. years of appeal, you know, I mean, that. we would have to go through that if he. if we win our if we win our lawsuit in. Italy that they could vacate the. sentence and we could be free of that.

charge in Italy charge in California. So. there there it is this is you know big. news in the world of you know this whole. me too movement that Italy is taking an. active stand against the me too movement. by having this trial. >> Yeah that is amazing. When is your LA. appeal when is that case going to be. heard? >> We file it we file it this week and you. know I mean I don't know how long it.

could take. It could be a year. It could. be two years. I I don't know, you know, I mean, hopefully sooner than later, but. I do not know the answer to that. question. >> And you're in Rikers where I I should. just just going to mention this. I mean, talking about how rough that prison is. We were supposed to do this call last. week and then everything got locked down. because there was a stabbing. Is that. correct? >> A gunfight and a stabbing. And um you. know I was at you know sitting at the. dental dentist's office at 12:00 with.

you know more than 2 hours to prepare to. go to do the interview and then the. lockdown happened. This is a very rough. place. This is an unhygienic place. You. don't get your shirts. You don't get. your socks. You don't get your. underwear. You know the food is rancid. I mean it is really awful. you know, the. food and it just I it took me 5 days to. get a pillow when I got back. And a. pillow is in the patient's bill of. rights, but I didn't get the pillow. I.

had to have Arthur and Craig, you know, I mean, lobby the heads of Riker's. Island to get a pillow. I mean, and and. I had a pillow and they took my pillow. and I guess they gave it to somebody. else. I mean, it's just absurd the. fighting for these little things that we. take for granted. I mean, I've been in. upstate New York in prison and those. things come to you. You know, I mean,

the prisons are run better, but Riker's. Island is medieval and it's it's an. entity unto itself and it's no good and. everybody says it should be closed down. and for once it should be closed down. >> How are you able to to keep your spirits. up? I I am kind of always amazed that. your mind is just always so strong. throughout all of this and I'm just. wondering what what is the solution for. you? >> I have the strength of my friends, you. know, and uh and they're not the friends.

of Hollywood. They're the friends that I. grew up with and the friends that I made. along the way that were just genuine and. nothing to do with my career. And so, as. a result of my friends and my family and. my kids, you know what I mean? I'm able. to just live for, you know, hearing. their stories, getting a kick out of. their stories, you know. Um, uh, India. told me a story, you know, the other day. about her being, you know, uh, with her.

friends and there was an argument and. she didn't want to be there for the. argument and she was able to get out of. the house and have somebody drive her. and just, you know, just a simple story. like that just, you know, it it it's. unfortunate that it happened, but it. makes my day to watch how ingenious she. was to get out of that house when, you. know, when she when she needed to get. out of there and um just listening to. the kids and talk about movies and you.

know say hey you know because we get we. have a a tablet and we get movies. normally 6 months later and my son said. to me hey dad you know I don't believe. that uh uh Black Panther not Black. Panther that Captain America is going to. be a good movie and I said no no it. looks good I've heard it's good see it. and he went and saw it and he said, "Dad, it was terrible." And then I I I. finally saw it and I had to call him on.

the phone and said, "You know what? You're right. It was terrible." But but. he just went to F1, Formula 1, the Brad. Pitt movie, and he said that was great. And he said it was really a great movie. And he's a racing car fan, so he loved. it. >> Do you know? >> So just hearing their stories, hearing. their their tals makes it is the only. thing that keeps me going. Otherwise, I. would give up. >> Um, you know, Twitter is a cesspool, but. there's a lot of humor on Twitter. And I. did see somebody tweeted and it went.

kind of viral because they did sort, you. know, they're doing all these Disney. remakes and they did um the Snow White. remake, which ended up being a disaster. with Rachel Zgler and somebody tweeted, I don't care what anybody says, if. Harvey Weinstein was out of prison, this. would have never happened. And I think everyone acknowledges movies. have gone downhill since Harvey has been. locked up. And it was a very funny tweet. and I totally totally agreed. This. disaster would not have happened. >> Well, you know, it's funny. Um, you not.

to be egotistical about it, but you. know, sometimes I watch my movies, you. know, because I get them on the tablet. or I see them, you know, on television. and um and uh and I remember the. meticulous amount of work that we did. did on every film. We were so. meticulous, such perfectionist. And that. probably got me into trouble because I. had a temper and I was angry. But I saw. a movie that we made called Kate and. Leopold with Meg Ryan and you Jackman.

and I said this can't be any good. It. was successful because it was a romantic. comedy and I watched it and it's a. charmer and James Mangle did a great job. you know on the film and I but but I. remember the work that we did alongside. of him. It was intense to make a romant. simple romantic comedy but a simple. romantic comedy can be so elegant and so. winning. I I never made Breakfast in. Tiffany's. That's too old even for me. But it's beautifully done. Just.

beautifully done. And I tried to emulate. that in everything that we did. >> Yeah. I I I used to love it. And this. isn't one of your movies, but because. you brought her up, Meg Ryan, uh When. Harry Met Sally is one of my one of my. absolute favorite movies, and it is. quite simple, but it's just a good. script, and it's very funny. >> Well, she's fantastic in in that movie, and she's fantastic in Kate Leopold. She's just terrific. And uh what a what. a what a just a force of nature that she.

brought to the whole enterprise. I mean. and they you know like they have her. sing Moon River, you know, on the fire. escape. It's so romantic. It's just a. just a delicious little treat. And I saw. Shall We Dance the other day, another. movie that I made and I just, you know, I recommended it to a bunch of friends. and they had a good time watching it. So. some of the, you know, and then then I. try to watch as many new movies as I. can. I can't find the great ones, you.

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would you do? What would Harvey. Weinstein's life look like if he just. said, "You know what? There's nothing. Okay, we're releasing you.". >> First and foremost, kids. I'd move as. close to my kids as humanly possible. Second, I would say to myself, am I entitled to make these movies? Will. I be cancelled? Will I be black balled? And if I wasn't cancelled and black. balled, you know, I mean, I would make. movies again, you know, I mean, not as. many as I used to make, but I would. certainly make, you know, I have certain.

ideas about some of the films that I. would make. I I would certainly. certainly try my best to remake Farewell. to Arms and just make it simple and. elegant. And the actress who plays the. part should be British because she's. British in the book. And the American. actor should be young rather than Rock. Hudson and Jennifer Jones, which was the. last version that that was made. and you. just watch the movie and it's got all. the bare bones of the Hemingway thing,

but the two actors are so miscast that. it's just awful. You I mean, I I would. love to do a simple remake of of an. elegant short Hemingway novel, you know, and uh and try to to, you know, do. something like that. And then there are. other projects I hope I could do, too. scripts that I read to try and find out. if they're owned by somebody or owned by. somebody who would help me make them. I. would love to do it again. But if I.

can't do it again, just to get out and. be with my children and to be a part of. them. I would and whatever I did. work-wise, that would never be number. one as it used to be. My kids is number. one now. My family is number one because. they're the important thing. I learned. my lesson the hardest way possible. What's important in life and I sometimes. took that for granted more than. sometimes. A lot I took it for granted.

But I was a good father throughout. The. one thing I can say that people do say. about me was that I was a good father. But I would be a better father. A lot. better father. >> That's amazing. But that's what I also. mean when I say that you're still you. like your passion is still there. or you. just you love film and you you just kind. of want to create beautiful films for. people to enjoy and let me tell you it. is desperately needed. Are you reading. any books right now? >> I'm reading every kind of book in the. world. I've read so hundreds of book I.

think I read 300 books in 5 years. >> Wow. >> At least. And I just read a book called. Demon Copperhead by Barbara Consolver. about Appalachia and that whole crisis. with the Oxycottton. And uh and I I'm describing it so. poorly. It's an epic novel. It's a. retelling of the David Copperfield story. only set in America in Appalachia. And. it is absolutely it won the Pullet. Surprise for a reason. It's fantastic.

And uh um uh just I read that and then I. read the classic I read some of the. classics I read in high school again. But I I read everything. I read Lauren. Michael's biography. I read Graden. Carter's memoir, Barry Diller's memoir, you know, and then, you know, I read, you know, classic fiction. I'm reading. The Great Divide about the Panama Canal. and uh and and this historical novel. So, you're reading all the time. But.

speaking of the Pulletzer Committee, I. with the research that that P Clark. Patterson has done on the New York. Times, I'm asking the the and the. research that's been done on Rowan and. Pharaoh's incredibly inaccurate article. in the New Yorker. The Pullet Surprise. should reconsider giving those guys the. PLET surprise. You know, I mean, I hope. they take the research seriously and. read it and just say, "Wait a second. We.

should take a look at our decision.". Because those pieces weren't about work. They were just she said, the woman said, "This is what happened." And nobody did. any research. Ashley Jud, you know, uh, he ruined my career. Ruined my career. She had a fabulous career. And what was. the movie that I ruined her career on? I. was fighting to get her Goodwill Hunting. to be the girl in Goodwill Hunting. Yeah. I mean, nobody called her agent.

And Clark Patterson points out that the. two reporters from the New York Times. never called Michelle Bohan, who was. Ashley Jud's agent, and said, "Where did. Harvey ruin her career? Where did Mirror. Cervino's career get ruined?" Speak to. the agent. Speak to Warner Brothers. Speak to a director. Talk to Marty. Scorsesei. Did Harvey say Marty. Scorsesei don't work with Mirror. Cervino? All they had to do was the. research, the backbreaking research. That is what makes great reporters. What.

made Woodward and Bernstein? This isn't. Woodward and Bernstein. As I'll steal. from Clark Patterson, he said they. weren't Woodward and Bernstein. They. were Felma and Louise. >> Yeah. Well, what I'll tell you, Harvey, is when you get to really researching. how things work, you'll start to realize. that the the Pulitzer Prize is also a. part of it. It's a it's a part of kind. of gifting these journalists so that. they can go out and do these sorts of. pieces. That is my belief after the. research I've done. I'm actually going. to I'm going to send you a book. Um and. I think you'll find it quite.

interesting. You know, just a bit about. Hollywood and how the journalists are. involved and how they've kind of always. been involved in sort of helping to. further these narratives that they knew. were not true. Like I said, they were. never the fourth estate. And um you. know, the Pulitzer Prize has definitely. also always been complicated as well. The Nobel Peace Prize as well. you know, we we could get in into politics, but I. think all of that is uh there's a veneer. there that is is starting to crack and. people are starting to realize it. So, I. wouldn't hold your breath for the. Pulitzer to reverse the prize. In fact, they they award the prizes to the people.

that successfully execute these sort of. hit pieces. Case in point, um I was just. covering another journalist who did it. to this like nice Mormon family. Everything she wrote was deceptive and. then she was awarded with a press award. for it. So, um yeah, don't hold your. breath breath on that one, I would say. Yeah, I guess not. I guess not. You know. what I mean? One can only wish anyhow. >> Yeah. Well, look, you're contributing to. it, though. I would say you're helping. people to recognize what it is. And I do. think the future is going to be better.

Uh I I definitely don't want your life. to have have been sacrificed so that the. future could be better and foster these. conversations. But they're happening. They are happening. And the mainstream. media is failing where independent media. is picking up. It is a different world. than when you went in 100%. Well, Candace, you know, I mean, I I. face, you know, I mean, there could be a. sentence is, you know, I don't know how. long that sentence can be. So, I face. danger, you know, if that trial isn't. get called a mistrial, you know, I mean,

that that case, you mean that I'm up up. against, you know, we won two of the. three, but we didn't win the third, and. the third is a dangerous case, Miriam H. So, I don't know. I'm in a period of. just, you know, just not knowing what. what my fate is. And it's just to me. something that I have to do. And it's. not easy to get it done. But I I took a. a lie detector test with Jessica Man. I.

sent you or they sent you the results. and I passed with flying colors. I took. a lie detector test on Eugenia at. Chernova, the girl in California. and I. passed with unbelievable the highest you. could get. And I mentioned Sianance who. really went against me, the district. attorney. I used his lie detector person. because I didn't want anybody to say. that I cheated in any way or we used a. lie detector test friendly to us. But.

I'm gonna take one on Miriam Hle and and. and I and uh and I'm gonna take one on. her and get that in here so once and for. all people can understand that that. case, you know what I mean, is not true. You know, I mean, I never assaulted that. woman. Never ever ever in a million. years. But it was worth money to her. They went after the money and you know I. mean and here I face this incredible. situation that I'm in. But this was for.

the money. This was for the money. Gloria Alred called it reparations. You. know, the other thing with Gloria Alred. Candace is I used her daughter, you. know, I mean, you know, to to work for. me and I and I bought her daughter's. script when I made the Trayvon Martin. documentary because she wrote a. brilliant book about the trial of. Trayvon Martin. And so I, one of the. episodes in the Trayvon Martin. documentary that I made features her.

work. And when this thing exploded, her. lawyer was her daughter, Gloria Alred's. daughter, was collateral damage. Gloria. Alred represents Mimi Ha. She's always. there for, you know, right after the. trial. Somehow Miriam H instead of. flying back to where she lives, she. showed up to have a victory lap. Gloria. Alred flew back to New York to have a. victory lab. She's there in the. courtroom. She's just there. It's It's.

clear. It's clear. Did I piss off. somebody? Yeah. Amongst others, I pissed. off Gloria Alred in a big way. >> Yeah. Yeah. I have to say she's someone. that is worthy of an investigation in. and of itself because I'm telling you, this woman is involved in a way that is. so evidently clear to me. There's just. no way that like Michael Jackson puts. her on a short list and basically says. his whole life is being ruined. I had to. sort of reexamine the facts of that case. and what was happening to him behind the. scenes and every time her name comes up,

it it seems to be that she's involved in. no good. Even her client has spoken out. and said that they were treated terribly. by her uh and that they didn't get the. sense that she was in this because she. wanted justice for the victims, but. rather she was kind of a part, and I'm. paraphrasing here, of a larger. syndicate. Um, and so it she is somebody. that I I'm I'm definitely interested in. and I I hope sooner rather than later. we're able to determine what exactly it. is that she's a part of because it it's. something sinister. There's no question. about it. >> Well, I'll tell you I'll tell you what I. know of it to be. She says that she's,

you know, for women's rights and. victimhood and the survivors and uses. all the cool language, but when you ask. Mimi H of the $475,000. that you received, you know, I mean, off. of my back and this trial, you know, I. mean, Mimi said onethird went to Gloria. Gloria takes between a third and 40% for. every client she has. You know, when. when you talk when they were talking.

about getting rid of NDAs, Gloria Alred. was the one who said, "Don't get rid of. NDAs because her practice is full of. it." Somebody says, "I slept with that. corporate CEO." You know, I mean, and. Gloria Alred goes to him and says, "Sign, you know what I mean? You know, give us $700,000. and we'll sign a piece of paper saying. that we uh you won't say anything about. you. We won't tell your wife. We won't. do all the underhanded behind the scenes. stuff is a big part of Gloria's.

practice. >> Yeah. And I don't see how that's not. considered to be extortion in and of. itself. You know, do this or that. Do. this or that. Give me 750K or else. Um, like I said, that begs a further. investigation. Arby, I know we're. running up against the hour here, so I. want to ask you this. What do you want? What do you hope your legacy is? >> That's a big question. Take a second to. answer it. Um, in my time I tried to do as well as.

having the success that I had, I'm very. proud of the work that I did. We did a. concert with Jim Dolan and John Sykes. We did the concert for New York and. raised $und00 million for the. firefighters and the widows and the. policemen who were the first defenders. of 9/11. We did a $77 million concert for Sandy. with Paul McCartney and the Who and Mc. Jagger and the Stones and uh we raised. $77 million for the businesses that got.

blown away in Rocka Away in New Jersey. and Bruce Springsteen opened the show. It was amazing. And uh we were able to. just deliver and deliver the money. quickly because Robin Hood was at the. Robin Hood was the beneficiary of the. money and Robin Hood distributed the. money quickly. I was on the board of. Robin Hood and watched other people, not. me, raised $2.5 billion for children's. charities in New York. And I was on uh I.

in I raised $170 million for AMFAR in. Khan with the with the uh events that I. used to organize for the charity. I. don't know, you know, there are others. The Children of Mandela, I was Glad's. Man of the Year. I tried to I I tried to. have my movies talk about society and. what was going on in a way that wasn't. clobbering people over the head, but. certainly not afraid to make a point and.

we were never scared of anything. And I. tried to do good work, you know, good. work on the film making side and I tried. to do good work on the good on the good. side. I just wished I was a better. husband and I wish that I just had the. the non stupidity to just. h how how could I do it? You know I mean. how could I do it? How was I so weak to. just want to be with women who were just.

using me and I was using them? It's just. awful to me that a man who had the track. record that I had. >> fell for the oldest sin in the world. >> That's exactly right. >> Scary. >> It is. >> scary. >> It is. But you you weren't the first and. you certainly weren't won't be the last. And you hope that people learn that. lesson. They won't learn that lesson. I. promise you there will be another person. that falls to the trap of of young women. and you know not making the right. assessment there in terms of everything.

that you have. But, you know, like I. said, I will continue to to pray for. justice in your case. I I really think. it it's a terrifying case to take a look. at if anybody examines it, Harvey, and. we're going to continue to investigate. every element of it up until Gloria. Allred. And I'm going to hope that you. guys are able to, you know, prove what. is obvious here, which is that this. should have been declared a mistrial on. the basis of what the juries the jurors. were saying um in this case, Harvey. And. and so I'm I'm sorry that it is.

happening in this way, but I do know. that there is a a greater good that's. happening, which is people are beginning. to ask questions about what the hell is. going on in these courtrooms. >> Well, you have a great force for good. I. hope some of the people who listen to. your show can write to you and say they. agree with you on the mistrial. When a. jury misbehaves the way the jury. misbehaved in my court case, you know, I. mean, there should be a mistrial. You. know what I mean? Keep those cards and. letters and emails going. I date myself. when I say cards and letters, you know.

what I mean? You know, keep those. emails, you know, coming, you know, because it's important, you know, for me. to read them, you know, and to see the. the that change is coming with it. Candace, you're a fighter for change and. I appreciate you and thank you. >> Absolutely. I'm going to send you a. book. You're going to fall down the. Hollywood rabbit hole. I'm going to send. you a book called Chaos. I think you'll. enjoy it. It's about the Manson murders. It's incredible. The true story of the. Manson Murders. Yeah, I'm going to send. you my book and I've got a book club.

So, maybe we're going to get a. recommendation from you on what book we. should read later this year since you're. reading so many. >> Um, but you know, Harvey, thank you so. much for trusting me with the story. I. wish I wish you had trusted me sooner. because we could have been covering this. for years. Um, but this is the way it. happened. It's the way God wanted it to. happen and I'm just grateful to have the. opportunity to share this. >> Thank you, Candace. Thank you so much. for everything. I appreciate it. appreciate you and congratulations on. the family. >> Thank you so much. >> My pleasure. Okay, bye now.

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