Finally! Tucker Calls Out “Rot” At TPUSA. Erika Kirk Forces Another High School Event. | Ep 389

All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. I'm. sorry we are running a little bit late. today. Just a lot going on. First and. foremost, I'm I'm very pregnant, so I'm. just feeling chubby. Shout out to all of. the chubby people who are tired today as. well. And I also got into a Twitter spat. with Andrew Kovvette back and forth. Finally got him to concede my point that. he was, as usual, lying by severe. omission about a quote unquote secret. event that Erica had at a middle/ high. school today in Idaho. I'm going to walk.

you through that. We're uh going to. address them sort of doing all of these. events across high schools in America. and why I believe it is clearly not what. Charlie's vision was uh for the club. America. I'm going to actually let you. guys hear Charlie in his own words. What. an idea. They don't seem to do that very. often. Beyond that, I found a crazy text. thread between me and Andrew Kovvette. from 2019, and it genuinely feels like. another piece of the puzzle regarding. him and Erica France and their.

intentions. Um, I'm going to let you. guys be the judge. Tell me what you. think. And at long last, Tucker Carlson. calls out his perfidious former. employee, Blake Nef, and his beyond. slimy attempt to hijack Charlie's true. voice. Welcome back to Candace. >> [music]. >> Okay, there really is a lot going on.

today. There's a lot to unpack. I hope. we get to everything. It might just have. to be a long episode. Uh, foremost, I do. want to address something as an addendum. to yesterday's episode. Truly, I don't. know how I missed this article from last. year. It must have been a very big deal. online. probably I missed it because it. was during the exact week that I. received information regarding a threat. on my life from France. But there was a. story that I genuinely didn't see and it. goes a very long way in terms of. answering why there was no ambulance on.

standby at the UVU event. Something that. I was completely miffed by um in. September and October when I began. covering the story. And the answer, as. you very well may know, is because. Turning Point USA's UVU chapter declined. it. That's that's the answer. on the actual form request with the. school, they checked no to needing an. ambulance. Now, like I said, I'm sure. there are a lot of you who knew that, but in case there are people like me. that slept through these articles in. November, um I just want to make sure I. also assert it on my show. Uh it's.

unacceptable that I missed this to be. honest with you, but better late than. never. So, AB ABC uh news released a. very detailed report on November 18th. regarding how the event came together. You can check it out here. The headline. is planned estimated 600 people would. come to the event where Charlie Kirk was. shot. Over 3,000 showed up. Now, we. learned in this article why there wasn't. any ambulance on standby. That's the big. thing. And like I said, TPUSA in mid. July to be precise on July 18th uh.

filled out a form to host this event uh. to host this event. And I'm talking. about the TPSA like club chapter at UVU. And they had first selected that there. would be max 200 people in attendance. And by the way, that was a pretty. reasonable estimate despite what they. are now claiming in that recent filing. Like you should have been prepared, you. should have known. It actually turns out. that the last time Charlie Kirk had been. to Utah uh was in April of 2024 and he. was at the University of Utah and they.

had 200 people show up. That's according. to ABC News. They then adjusted that. amount from 200. uh up to 600 people max that would be. attending. They adjusted that a few. weeks later. And I find it interesting. that ABC doesn't want to get specific. like what does a few weeks later mean? Because to be clear, the event form was. filled out in mid July. A few weeks. later would mean you were just coming up. upon the event altogether. And yet, remarkably, 3,000 people show up for.

this event, which was barely advertised. And I noted right away it was a crowd of. adults. This did not look to me like a. typical Turning Point USA event. And I. said I had never seen a crowd look like. this. I have actually done Utah Valley. University with Charlie. So, I'm. speaking on my own experience. We had a. majority student crowd. Uh, everything. just was completely different. And the. article then quotes Chief Jeff Jeff. Long, who in my view is being completely. victimized by Turning Point USA's uh PR.

machine. They're looking for somebody to. pin this on. He's being wrongfully. called out, sinfully misrepresented by. Turning Point's vicious PR team. In. fact, it'd be interesting to see whether. or not he has a lawsuit on his hands. Um, but anyway, it reads in this. article, "When officials at Utah Valley. University approved the plans for. Charlie Kirk's appearance at the school. on September 10th as part of his. American Comeback Tour, they expected. roughly 600 people would be there, according to newly released plans." Jeff. Long says, quote, "We had probably over.

3,000 people who were in attendance.". Jeffrey Long told reporters at a press. conference shortly after the incident, noting that they had six officers. working at the event and Kirk had his. own security team. But here's where it. gets really interesting. In a statement. to ABC News, a TurningPoint USA. official, so this is now Turning Point. USA, Erica's Turning Point USA official. said, uh, quote, on an online form. submitted in early July, a TPUSA UVU. chapter member selected 200 plus as the.

max attendance option available on the. school's online form. An estimate of 600. was later provided a few weeks later via. an an event request form which was based. on a similar event the year prior at the. University of Utah. Subsequent. conversations between the school and. TPUSA's safety team updated that. estimate to 1,500 based on more recent. prove me wrong campus events. So that's. where they're sort of saying like, "Oh, well now there was a conversation that. is not documented and there's no.

paperwork, but there definitely was this. 1500 conversation." And they go on to. say the events are unticked and open to. the public, talking about the prove me. wrong events, including those just. walking by, but PD and event. coordinators estimated the attendance at. approximately 3,000. While the tour stop. was slated to take place in the Serenent. Student Center courtyard and ultimately. ended up occurring there, someone with a. UVU email address whose name was. redacted by the school suggested that.

the event be held elsewhere on campus. They wrote, quote, "Also, we think that. the Fulton Library Quad would be a. better space-wise for the group if they. get a large crowd in the area." The. sender wrote on August 21st, apparently. referring to the Fulton Library quad. across campus. The recipient of the. messages name was also redacted by UVU. So, this shows that Turning Point USA. essentially was totally fine with people. walking up. They said it's like the. prove me wrong events where people walk.

up. That is correct. I have done these. events with Charlie. Uh, you can find. these Candace and Charlie sitting down. and there's no crowd control. There is. no ticketing. So, if that's the style of. the event that they were okay with and. communicated with to uh UVU, how can. they suddenly pretend like they were. woefully unprepared for Charlie Kirk? That's what he does. That's what he's. been doing. This is how it's always run. There's no ticket and no traffic. control. And you guys conceded those. points to ABC News in November. And then.

we learn in this article that the. records released by UVU to ABC News. indicate that when the event was being. planned in response to the section of. the questionnaire that said, "Will EMS. need to be scheduled for your event?". The unidentified person who filled out. the form wrote, "No." A Turning Point. USA official again is going to back up. this uh club told ABC News that there. were two UVU emergency medical personnel. on site but not an ambulance. And here's.

the reason they offer. Quote, "Because. TPUSA's safety team staffed up for the. event to 12 security on site, up from. the usual 8 to9, a team comprised of. ex-military and law enforcement. personnel trained and equipped with a. full emergency medical kit and field. dressing expertise," the official said. End quote. Okay, so to recap, a Turning. Point official back in November of last. year acknowledged that it was them who. denied the ambulance. Um, and they. explained that away. Then you uh.

recognize that it's that local UVU club. chapter that did this via a form. And. their excuse in response as to why they. made that decision is because, well, our. safety team had 12 security on site up. from our usual eight and they're. remarkably equipped. Now all of a sudden. this filing, they're no longer equipped. Right? The larger TPUSA organization was. defending the TPUSA chapter's decision. not to have an ambulance on standby. It.

presents as though it was a. collaborative decision. Fast forward 10. months and now the Kirk family lawyer is. filing a document that the decision not. to have an ambulance on standby was. negligent and amounted to a wrongful. death. So on the one hand we have it was. our decision and on the other hand we. have even though we made the decision. you should have stopped us because Nancy. Pelos's husband was in his boxers and he. got attacked at his home because Trump. survived Butler. Why didn't you save us. from ourselves?

Yeah, it feels like textbook. narcissistic abuse. I keep saying that. with the way Turning Point USA is. operating. There's something about it. that just feels like textbook. narcissistic abuse. Which brings me to. this crazy text thread that I uncovered. between myself and Andrew Kovette dating. back in 2019. And I only reason I. uncovered this because was because I was. pulling all of these fun videos of me. and Charlie on the road throughout all. of the years and uh photos and I came. across this chain and my jaw just sort. of hit the floor. It's crazy, especially.

in retrospect, because it really shows. you that Andrew Kovette is a shameless. liar. There's no way you're going to. walk away from this chain. No matter. what you think, you will recognize that. this man is a shameless liar. So, again, just to kind of uh give you some presets. here, this is going to be a. communication between me and Andrew from. November of 2019. Okay, end of the year 2019. Also recall that recently Andrew has. been trying to spin to the public that. Charlie and me were not friends since.

2018. It was so wild and so crazy. I. barely like felt the need to defend. myself because it's just it's so out of. control, so out of this world and what. is real can't be threatened. Anyway, it's crazy that he even says this. because Charlie and Erica came to my. wedding in August of 2019, which was a. year beyond 2018. Uh then we hosted the. Black Leadership Summit together, me and. Charlie, in October of 2019 at the White. House. Charlie and I, I mean, we spoke. every day. It is so hard for me to go. back in text messages because it's just.

was constant communication all the time. But 2019 is a big year because. interestingly enough, as we know, this. is when he begins dating Erica France. fully in public. So, I find this changed. from the end of that year. And I was. just astonished because for whatever. reason in November of 2019, it became. very obvious to me and Charlie who were. speaking daily that people were trying. to force either me or him to make a. statement about one another. And we're. like brothers and sisters, right? Like. almost as though out of nowhere some.

invisible hand was trying to present to. the public like we were in some sort of. a fight. And we were totally confused by. this. And Charlie is texting me. He's. the one that's actually being attacked. the most day in and day out. and we're. texting about it and he's like, "This is. coordinated. This is feels like it's. it's coming down. I don't know who's. behind this." All of a sudden, in the. midst of this, I receive a text message. from Andrew Kovette, who's relatively. new to Turning Point USA as the PR. person. And I want you to see this. because you can immediately.

feel in this communication that my. Spidey senses went up. I'm like, "This. is very weird. Like, why are you. communicating with me as opposed to. Charlie?" I actually am going to say. that explicitly to him because like. Charlie me brother and sister we talk. every day. Why are you giving me this. information from Erica France? Okay, check this out. So it starts with this. is November 12th, 2019 and Andrew says. just making sure you see this and he. forwards a message from E. And what's. really weird about that date and that.

time I I we are pretty confident that. this means he's he copied it from. Telegram. I don't know why the time is. written like it's European, like if this. was his preset if he has his phones, but. it's written, the date and the time are. written European style. 12 1119, it's. actually 11:1219. Uh, American standards, it's November. 12th and 13:35 is 1:35 p.m. So, that's. something that just I'm pointing out cuz. it's weird, but the messages from Erica,

I didn't know at the time because I. didn't have her on Telegram and I didn't. know who E was. and he writes, quote, or he shares, he forwards, quote, "We. are going to get Charlie Kirk and. Candace Owens involved in a public feud. Candace Owens left Turning Point USA. because she was the Malcolm X of the. organization." And then I wrote back to. Andrew, "Who wrote that?" He writes, "The Graers on their walls." I said, "What do you mean their walls?" Facebook.

question mark. What are you talking. about? where are the Graer walls, you know? And. then he said, "Like their blogs.". I said, "Can you send me a link? I don't. know where the Graer blogs are." And I. said, "Because oddly today, I felt that. they were trying to get me to comment on. Charlie." And he said, "Yes, they were.". So I say, "Where's that text from? Um, what blog?" And he said, "Not sure.

I'll find it." And then I said, "Who. sent it to you?" Because I don't know. who E is, obviously. Like, she's like a. new addition to our lives. And he says, "Charlie's girlfriend found it.". And then he says, "She found this, too.". And he includes this. We need Graers to. ask Charlie um Sorry, my eyes say so bad. to say charged questions. We need Thank. you. Give me full screen. We need. gripers to ask Charlie questions about. Candace Owens and get him to criticize. her. At the same time, we need to fluff.

Candace Owens's ego while suddenly. driving home the fact that she was. driven out of Turning Point USA because. Kirk feared her. And since she was. driven out, Kirk has been working behind. the scenes to undermine her. We need to. fan these flames until Candace finally. chimps out and the Rword, it's like an. aggressive Rword, Kirk publicly. Okay, he's telling me Erica Kirk found this. And I just want to just keep this up, guys, because what's amazing is this is.

the exact narrative that Andrew Kovette. is trying to seed. Now, what did Andrew. say? Recently, they stopped being. friends in 2019 because Charlie feared. Candace. Do you guys remember that? This. is so crazy to me. This is literally. Andrew Kovette and Erica finding a Graer. thread on a Graer blog, and they're. telling me it's the Grapers. Fast. forward to 2025 and Andrew Kovette is. going to repeat this narrative. basically exactly this narrative which.

he was trying to tell me that Erica. found trying to tell me and Charlie that. Erica found this on gripper blogs. Okay, so let's keep going. So I say. where though. and then he ghosts me. He ghosts me. until the next day and he says I'll try. to find it. Not sure. And then he goes. to me until the next day. And I said, "Why not just ask Erica to send you a. link? It just seems suspicious. I don't. even know where to find a griper blog.

How does Erica know?" Like, "Who is this. chick? Who is this chick?" Like, [laughter]. and I said, "Also weird that Charlie and. Erica wouldn't just send it to me. directly. I'm literally talking to. Charlie every single day." What? Now. you're telling me E is forwarding you. European type text threads and you're. telling me that she's finding it on. graper blogs? What you doing on gaper. blogs? And then he he says after not. answering me, "Lol, just getting to. this, I actually totally get the. suspicion. I'll have one of them send. you a link." What do you mean one? Like, who are you, Andrew? Like, so I'm remain.

suspicious. And then he sends me this. Okay. Operation [laughter]. Graer X anonymous. And then he says, "The blog was linked in this Vox. article." and he sends me this box. article which was just posted on that. day that the thread was posted. So, it's. remarkable timing. And I want to be very. clear, I am not mentioned in the article. at all. And the article does not link to.

this post. It links to the website where. the post is at. It's called like. forple.com, but it does not link to a Candace Owens. post. It does not link to a a post. that's about uh Charlie Kirk. It links. to a thread that is relevant to this. article. So he sends me this and it's a. post and apparently Erica Kirk found. this post and little did Candace and. Charlie know little did Cand know that. years later while Andrew [laughter] is. trying to basically be like we don't.

know who's trying to seed this narrative. that you and Charlie are fighting and me. and Charlie are like what the heck is. going on where all these attacks coming. from his girlfriend and Andrew are. assuring us that it's the grapers why. she knows for plebs or forchan which. apparently uh for pleb's archives 4chan. how she knows to navigate around this. website how she found this thread which. actually was not hyperl in the article. beats me beats me.

um I think we actually have I can show. you the the four plebs link this one. obscure post like saying attack Candace. Charlie I just want to point out to you. guys the actual when I found this I was. like this is amazing this is amazing. it's it's exactly the narrative that. Andrew Kovette is now going to say was. real. And I guess he um maybe he was the. graer, maybe Erica was the griper. I. don't know. It's a weird correspondence.

Thought I'd share that with you. Right? Because what they once claimed. was made up, of course, is now the very. narrative that they are attempting to. espouse to the public. This, if nothing. else, this thread proves that Andrew. Kovat is a routine liar. There was. absolutely no falling out between me and. Charlie. I couldn't make sense of why. someone was suddenly insisting on trying. to force that narrative in the media. And look, Charlie, wherever you are, I. think it now makes a whole lot of sense. to us actually. And I have to say it, I.

don't think it was the Gripers. Anyway, I had another back forth with. Andrew Kovette today. Well, I got to. unlock my computer because this is like. kind of amazing. So anyway, over the. last 48 hours, I started receiving like. a little flurry of frustrated emails. from parents, parents to students at a. school, a Christian school in Idaho. And. I'm going to riff on this because I want. to make sure that these uh parents are. not uh identified. And basically, they. let me know, which I tweeted before it. was made public, that Erica was.

attending. And they described it, that's. why I put in quotation marks, a a secret. event that they were made aware of in. the weekly newsletter. They were told. that they were not allowed to attend the. event, that essentially this was going. to be an assembly for kids. Erica Kirk. was going to come in and speak to the. students and the parents did not like. this. They just felt like this was not. cool. They don't like the direction like. many of us that Turning Point USA is. going. And now suddenly you're just. going to like force the ideas of Turning. Point USA onto the students and they.

don't have they they have to attend. effectively. You have to attend an. assembly. I guess you could technically. write a note and your kid could opt out. of anything. But then I got an email. this morning uh from someone who. separate person whose student was. attending the event and actively texting. during this event as if she was in a. hostage situation. Uh texting the. student was texting their mother and the. mother was saying if this was as if as.

though they were all in a hostage. situation. So this is the text message. I've obviously blacked out the person. The student wrote, "Okay, big Kirk is. here and we can't leave the school and. we're getting locked in the gym." And. mom writes, "What the f?" Student. writes, "Yeah, so if I don't make it out. alive, it's been fun." Obviously, that's. a joke. Uh, and then shows a gift. It's. been fun. And mom writes back, "Can you. video it or photo it?" So, these were. the messages that a student was sending. to their parents while they were in here.

that they they were in the gym. obviously does not sound like this. person went willfully to the assembly. and really wanted to sign up and hear. Erica Kirk speak. And yet, remarkably, after I break the story, they then share. this, which is just to me, it it's. fundamentally. dishonest. It's like a lie by severe. omission when you're sharing an audience. attendance like, "Wow, look at all these. kids who showed up to hear Erica speak. and leaving out the part that they were. kind of forced to be there because it's.

a school assembly." So, this person. writes, "500 plus outstanding high. school student attendees at the Turning. Point USA Club America tour stop at. Nampa Christian School this morning. Uh, Mrs. Erica Kirk delivered a powerful. message to the generation of America. First leaders, the future is bright.". Mind you, the the parents that told me. about this said in the Newsweek letter, they called it secret because the the. high school told them, and it's it's. middle school and high school, by the. way. So it's middle school and high.

school told them that they're not going. to promote it and Turning Point USA is. not going to promote it and essentially. we're telling you this the week that. this is attend this is happening so. tough luck sort of a thing and they're. like why are these why are they popping. up doing these secret events like why. don't we have a say in this why aren't. people like being told with much more. time in advance and so I comment back to. this this uh ridiculous idea or I guess. this ridiculous presentation PR. presentation on X of like 500 plus. students and I said this. I said, "The.

students were forced to attend this. event as a school assembly. They could. not opt out. The parents were informed. that they were not allowed to attend. alongside them." That is true. The. parents were told that it is insane to. me that you have administrations forcing. events on underage kids and then are. trying to spin it to the public as. successful club growth. It's it's a. fundamentally dishonest presentation. Like, do we all agree that that's a. fundamentally dishonest presentation? Uh. to tweet that. So, of course, Andrew Kov. had got in the comments and he said, I'm. missing one one thing that he said. there, but he basically called me a liar.

and I said, and that said that it was. Charlie's vision for club to have Club. America chapters. We're going to get to. that in a second. I then write back, um, hey Candace, you can go back to the. thread that you just had. I wrote back, hey Andrew, Charlie's vision never. included forcing his ideas on students. ever. He wanted to expand TPUSA. organically. He wanted people to sign up. for his events and clubs willfully. He. believed in the free markets. He did not. believe in forcing young kids to sit. through a mandated assembly. They didn't. that they didn't want to attend so that. you could lie to donors about attendance.

numbers. Club America was envisioned by. Charlie as a grassroots movement from. willful students. Whatever the hell. Erica is doing is clearly not that. And. I I do want to to emphasize that because. this is this feels like just a complete. inversion of reality. The entire reason. that Charlie wanted to go from college. campus to college campus and he spouse. conservative ideas and get people to. sign up for the club and to do this uh. grassroots was because actually. conservatives felt that liberals were. forcing their ideas that liberals were.

using administrative efforts like oh. it's pride month so everyone's going to. have to go to the assembly and learn. about transgenderism like this was the. big thrust that we all were were were. trying the thrust from the conservative. movement back in 2015. 15 2016 when we. were saying enough is enough. Stop. forcing ideologies on kids and now we. have them doing what effectively we were. fighting. That's what this feels like to. me. Anyway, Andrew replies and he says, "Wrong again. Students were free to opt.

out. Three students did." So over 500. chose to attend. Nothing was forced. What else you got? Okay. So then I. realized he's doing a thing where. they're going to get on a technicality. three opted out. They were free to opt. out of Okay, I concede. You are always. able to in a high school event opt out. of an assembly. Mom can write you a. note. Dad can write you a note. You can. sit in a math class by yourself. He's. obviously um missing the missing the.

forest for the trees. And so I wrote. back to him, they did not choose, that's. the word that I'm going to harp on, to. attend an event that took place in the. middle of their regular school day. It. was planned for them by the school. Parents were informed of this event in. the weekly newsletter and were told that. neither Turning Point USA nor the school. would be posting about it across their. socials. Hence why parents emailed me. their upset. Are you suggesting that. students willfully signed up for this. event? If so, where and how? And please. be specific. Now I've got him cornered,

guys. I've got him cornered. Okay. Please be specific. Is a cornering. Andrew Wrightbacks. right? Writes back. essentially now going to be like, "You're the reason we didn't market it.". Okay, Andrew. Okay. He writes back, "Yeah, we don't market the event. publicly for security reasons. Thanks. for all your help on that, by the way.". I'm sorry. Why are they able to blame everybody but. themselves for lapses in security? Like, was I at UVU that day? Was I supposed to.

be providing protection to Charlie Kirk? Do you think like generally speaking. people don't really feel like your. events are safe when you pretend that. Erica's life is threatened when there's. like not a big audience? I don't know. I. just feel like that's it's kind of a. stretch to be like I'm somehow the. reason that they can't go speak at high. schools. Like I've ever like I've ever. said as people go and yell and scream. and disrupt. Never actually have I ever. done that. Anyways, he says that the. reason they don't market is to make sure. kids have a safe environment. But thanks. for admitting the event was not secret.

Parents were informed. They had the. option to opt out and three of them did. Next, okay, I guess three students. parents were a note. Okay, like you know. what I'm saying? I said, you didn't. answer my question. Did the students. sign up to attend this event? Yes or no? I am aware that technically you can. quote unquote opt out of pretty much. anything in high school, but did these. students opt in, Andrew, or did the. administration organize this as a part. of their regular school day? It's a very.

very easy yes or no question. Did they. opt in, Andrew? And what does he come. back with? Ah, concession. Now he's like. gaslighting me about assembly in high. school. Did you actually never attend a. school assembly in high school? These. are distinct from our regular chapter. meetings. I can't believe I have to. explain the basics to you. Okay, so it. wasn't assembly and they didn't opt in. Andrew, thank you. I'm glad we got. there. And drew, you could just say that. I was right and you tried to like win. this in a technicality by being like.

three kids parents did go max and say. no, they're not attending at all and got. them out of there. But the point is is. that they were this was just a part of. their day, which means that you guys are. doing deals with the administration to. have Erica speak. And that is not. Charlie's vision. That has never been. Charlie's vision. It's never been his. vision to force this upon people and to. play the power politics that you guys. are constantly playing. This is what you. believe. We can call someone. What would. you call a big Christian donor to the. school? That's what I would guess. I bet. if I looked up the school, I could find.

some thread of a very wealthy donor to. the school who they then made a phone. call to and he got something done and. got Erica in through the door. Charlie's. vision was for it to be grassroots, was. for it to be somebody starts a club, an. afterchool club by the way, like. something that would rival the debate. club by the way, and then it gets bigger. and bigger and bigger and it becomes a. staple across college campuses. willfully willfully they sign up because. they go, "Wow." Just like you did with. Turning Point USA across college.

campuses. People want to be a part of. it. They want to get involved. They want. to host people to speak. And when they. host people to speak, people sign up to. go hear those people speak. Even if they. don't like them, they're being. introduced to different ideas. But I've. never done an event with Charlie where. they were forced to listen to us. In. fact, it's the opposite. I actually mock. kids who sign up for tickets to show up. and pretend that they were oppressed. Like that one clip that they never. showed the full extent of but the girl. showed up and asked me, you know, uh,

you know, how what do you think about. people who feel threatened by your. general presence here? I'm summarizing. And I said, life's tough. Get a helmet. Oh, like back of a line. I can't be your. mommy. I go, why are you here? This is. an afterchool event that was put on. you. are not required to be here. Why are you. wasting your time standing in line. extracurricular to say that you feel. oppressed? Like this is you're not. required to be here. And there's freedom. in that. You can make fun of these kids. for that because you're like, why are. you wasting your time if no one's asking.

you and you don't have to do this? If. you truly are oppressed, just go home. You know, just go home. And so I wanted. to show you guys because um you know. what has nothing has been more silenced. than Charlie Kirk's voice. I will say. that. Especially at the helm of the new. TPUSA, TPUSA 2.0. We got power. We know Cash Patel. We. know Pete Hegsmith. We got We got the. Exec office on speed dial. We got Air. Force 2 and Air Force One. I wanted you. guys to hear Charlie's vision in his own. words for what he wanted the high school.

clubs to be. And this is taken from what. really might be his final presentation. on what he wanted for Turning Point USA. uh which is a very long presentation but. this is the portion um of what was given. in front of a Aspen donors. Here's what. he said about Club America. Take a. listen. >> High school program is now called Club. America. We just hired 80 new full-time. people last week. This is just full-time. people just in the Club America.

department. What is their job? What do. they do every day? They are sourcing new. leads of young high school kids that. want to start club America chapters. go. there, meet with the parents, meet with. the administration, fill out the. paperwork. They're guiding the student. through the process to get these. chapters organized. What we are trying. to do is try to have full occupation. where it's not a question of, hey, do. you have a Club America chapter? The. question should be, are you going to. your Club America chapter meeting? That's what success looks like. It's no. longer like, hey, do you have one in.

your local school? It's why aren't you. showing up to your local Club America. chapter? Think about it. How many of you. that have dealt in local high schools, you know that there's the DECA club or. the debate club? You just kind It's like. built in. We want the Club America. chapter to just be a builtin perpetual. motion machine that is there for. students that love the country, love our. founding values, love free markets, and. want to talk about it. That was his vision. Andrew, like debate. club for kids that love the country, kids that want to get involved, other.

kids that were sourcing and leading. these kids, showing them how to they. could sign up, start their own debate. club until one day you looked back and. it was just a staple at every school. Like in the way that you look at debate. clubs, you know that you have high. school that you can sign up for debate. club. That that was his vision. There. was no forcing people to listen to my. underqualified wife because of powerful. connections that we have mentioned in. this vision. So, take it or leave it. It's Charlie's own words. We'll be right. back after a brief break. All right, you.

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it. No. If you want to start a chapter, you want to start a club, you want to do. this, great. If you want to then sell. your ideas and kids are interested and. they want to sign up, great. But this. whole idea of mandating ideas, which is. what this feels like to me. If you're. mandating an idea, it's wrong. It's was. extremely wrong when the left was doing. it. And it's wrong if the right is doing. it, too. And it does always come from. power. So part of the emails that were. sent to me is the parents were. wondering, are we paying for this? Are.

they did someone they accept a donation. for this? Was money exchanged for this? This just seems weird. If it feels out. of the blue and it feels secretive. So. again, that was coming from the parents, not me, Andrew Kovette. If you would. like to gaslight them into believing. that their kids opted into this and sell. it to the public and your donors as. something else, you're welcome to do. that. Uh but before you do, another. question for you. This time you and. Erica, it's regarding August 28th, right? a couple of weeks before. Charlie's passing. I want to speak about. that date because there's just something. that happened that registers to me as a.

bit odd because to my knowledge and. having having spoken to people with. direct knowledge, Andrew Kovat should. not have been doing public public. relations for Erica Kirk in August of. 2025. Outside of her uh involvement with. Turning Point USA, Faith, if she's. coming to speak at an event, I am told. that in that capacity they would handle. her media. outside of that. It was not. something that they regularly did or did. ever. Um, so I will say allegedly, but. that is coming from people who worked. with Andrew. Now, I want you to remember.

who Erica was on August 28th, 2025. She. was virtually unknown to the world. Um, as anyone other than Charlie Kirk's. doing Christian wife, who attended some. of his events to encourage women to get. married young and to have tons of. children and not to climb the corporate. ladder. This was a, you know, newer. iteration of Erica. It was definitely. not Erica Fronfay, but this this was. Mrs. Kirk and it was all about. Christianity and faith. And she had this.

um Christian base based clothing brand, which she started right when she met. Charlie called Proclaim 365, which by. the way, that deserves an episode in and. of itself because for the life of me, I. cannot figure out how it functions or if. it functions as a profitable business. Um, but I digress. Yeah. Curiously, on. August 28th, 2025, I learned that Erica. had a call with Andrew Kovette and. executives at a company called Empress.

Films, right? Empress Films. Now, what. is Empress Films? I'm going to take you. through it really quickly. Uh, what was. the call about? That's what I'd like to. know. Why was she on the phone with the. company's top brass? I'd like to know. that, too. namely this um this. conference call was with Eben Davidson. who was the company's exe is the. company's executive producer. He came. out of a long tenure with Paramount. Pictures and he was running the LA. office for Empress Films. He was also. also on the call with two producers who. I'm not going to name plus the founder.

of Empress Films which is a woman named. Emma Cooper. The company's relatively. new established in 2020. Their backstory. is that Emma Cooper was previously the. global president of non-scripted. television at Pulse Films where she. worked on non-fiction films and series. and then following uh what was massive. global success of her hit Netflix. documentary series which was entitled. the disappearance of Maline McCann. Extremely controversial disappearance if.

you recall a little girl. Lots of. conspiracy theories that went with that. Um she Emma Cooper created then Empress. Films where she was going to chase. basically um making that the regular. beat of the company. Murder mystery. She's done a lot of work with murder. mystery stuff in general. And now. Empress Films was going to be like. that's our thing. Murder mystery. I I'm. going to keep emphasizing that to you. They're a newer company. Murder mystery. is their regular beat. Okay. I'll take.

you through what they had produced. leading up to this call with Erica and. Andrew. Interestingly enough, in 2021, they launched with the docu series. Galain Maxwell Epstein's Shadow. I kid. you not, you can go and find this on. their Instagram. Just scrolling up from. Hi, we're here, we're new. First thing. they promote is Galain Maxwell Epstein. shadow. It's a documentary that is of. course sympathetic to Gla Maxwell cuz. all she did was sort of inherit Jeffrey. Epstein's secrets or something. Now.

admittedly I did not watch the series, but I did take a look at the reviews um. and it received a mixed reaction. Most. notably, people were criticizing it for. being too soft on Galain. That became. this narrative like she was just the. friend of Jeffrey Epstein, kind of. painting her as a victim herself, uh, who was and they kind of used her. upbringing to excuse her behavior. One. person even described the documentary as. saying that it felt like a media puff. piece about Galain Maxwell. Okay.

Empress Films then also released The. Mystery of Marilyn Monroe. very. controversial controversial death in. America. It was called the unheard. tapes. And yes, they of course take the. state's position, which is nothing to. see here about this death. Uh it's not. mysterious at all. Now, you know, she. was involved with the Kennedy brothers. This is Hollywood. There was a lot going. on, but the Vanity Fair was um did a. review and said this, we thought it was.

going to be conspiracy theory, but. they're taking the state's position. Sorry, Variety, not Vanity Fair, did a. review and they wrote, quote, "We think. we're heading we're hearing the. beginning of a conspiracy theory and in. a way we are." But Anthony Summers, whose 1988 85 book Goddess The Secret. Lives of Marilyn Monroe, is the basis of. the documentary, explicitly states that. Monroe was not murdered. The result of. her uh Tangle of Destiny was simply that. the Kennedys, who had been tempting fate. by carrying on simultaneous affairs with. the world's most coveted movie star,

were told that they needed to cut ties. with her. her it had become too risky. And so they did and it devastated her. Coming after a year of erotic behavior. where she'd barely gotten through the. shoot of the misfits, being dumped by. the Kennedys, it sent her into a tail. spin. JFK didn't even say anything to. her. She was ghosted. She died not long. after. So again, the state's narrative. There's a lot. I don't know if if you've. ever looked into the death of Marilyn. Moro, there's a lot there. Okay, there. is a lot there. I certainly would not. rule out a murder at all. That's why it. stays relevant. And it feels like.

another state secret that is kind of. being justified in a way. Empress also. then directed who killed Jill Dando. Now. uh this name is not familiar to people. that in America very much is familiar to. people in the UK. It was a massive. unsolved murder from the '90s of a UK. journalist. She was basically shot point. blank in broad daylight. Um and the. murder has been at the center of a lot. of conspiracy theories since. people. alleging that at the time of her murder,

she was working on a story about former. Yugoslavia and what was going on with. that war, as well as many people who. claim that she was actually. investigating a pedophile network at the. BBC, which included Jimmy Savile. Uh. again, I'm just telling you, just taking. you through what this company does. Uh. they also created a miniseries on. Princess Diana. It was entitled Diana on. her life and they are following up with. that docue series with who killed Diana. which was announced in 2024 exploring.

the conspiracies around her death. Uh. and they did Andrew uh I'm sorry they. did Depp versus Herd. So, they did. Johnny Depp versus Amber Herd, and this, I'm assuming, was just because it was. going on and in the news. They showed. both testimonies side by side, exploring. the trial and the online fallout that. ensued. Then they did killing grounds, Gilgo Beach murders. Okay. Like, I mean, if you guys a bunch of women that are.

found in Long Island, it's like a a 10. 10-year serial killer. The guy then does. a deal with the feds and then first says. he's not guilty and then says he's. guilty after doing a deal with the feds. to like submit himself for behavioral. analysts. I it's totally bonkers. I'm. I'm not going to get into it because I'm. making a broader point that the focus of. this company is murder mystery. and I just would like to know I'd like. to ask I would like to understand what. is the context of this call that Erica.

and Andrew had. What would they have. been working on in August of 28th with. this company who I would also like to. say is remarkably left-leaning. Like. they are proud feminists at the Empress. films. They are like, you know, pro-LGBTQ. They wear that for fun around the. office, like you know, whatever. Not f. the patriarchy, but one of them was. wearing a shirt and it doesn't matter. whose people are. They're just random. employees. like slay the patriarchy and.

um uh what what does her her shirt say. there on the left? Something what does. it say? Never gender. I can't see because it's a. little too small for me. My eyesight. gets so bad at the end of pregnancy. Um. but you know, the point is is that they. were they're just liberal, which is. fine. This is that you're allowed to. start your own company and you're. allowed to espouse your own ideas. And. it just makes it even more of an odd. match for Erica Kirk and Andrew Kovat. Like in my opinion, it's a very odd. match. Why are they on the phone? What. is this call about? What documentary.

were they working on? And how would that. have fit into the general picture of. Empress films at this time? That's what. I'd like to know. Just seems weird to. me. And I find that little bit to be. interesting. And Baron Coleman and I. were discussing it and we're like, this. is weird. Very weird. And I don't know. why it's weird, but it just feels weird. for some reason. um when you are just. running a clothing company like were. they going to do a documentary on. Erica's clothing company a Christian. clothing company partnering with this. femin I I don't know doesn't register to.

me as correct anyway moving on from that. um pretty excited to hear Tucker Carlson. finally call out his former employee. Blake Nef um because it was so. disgusting so disgusting that Tucker. Carlson is the only reason Blake Nef got. the job with Charlie Kirk. It is so. funny Blake Nef was not friends with. Charlie Kirk. He's a random guy who got. fired from his job. Tucker Carlson had a. heart and makes a phone call to help. Blake Nef get this job after he was kind.

of floating around for years. He was. actually working for Stu Peters and he. calls in effectively a favor to get him. this job with Charlie Kirk. So this was. not Charlie Kirk when I saw Candace on. the spot and I met her and then we I. hired her. This is Charlie Kirk actually. being loyal to Tucker Carlson who. apparently has a bleeding heart for. former employees and wanted to after he. was Blake Knap was involved in this. racism scandal for being a total creep. online and now we see he's just a creep. in general. He probably should have just.

stayed as an online troll wanting to. help him take the next step in his life. working on the Charlie Kirk show. So, Politico obviously is like a DC insider. type publication and we know that Blake. Nef is best friends with people involved. in DC or whatever says that these are my. friends, whatever. And um they tried to. do this like puff piece of Blake Nef. calling him now Charlie Kirk's. lieutenant which is crazy. Charlie. Kirk's lieutenant has second thoughts. Blake Nef helped make stars of Charlie.

Kirk and Tucker Carlson. We are really. doing the absolute most with that. subtitle. Blake Nef turned Charlie Kirk. and Tucker Carlson into a star. He. helped to make them into stars. Now he's. trying to re in what he unleashed. Ah, you could see Blake Nef has the magic. touch. When you hear him talk, you just. feel that way like he could just turn. anybody into a star. He's just got that. it factor like you know Stephen King's. it factor. Anyway, we have Tucker.

Carlson finally hitting at Blake Nef, who was taking swipes at him, lying, saying that Tucker Carlson and Charlie. were not friends when he would not have. had his job were Tucker Carlson and. Charlie Kirk not friends. Take a listen. to what Tucker had to say regarding this. political interview. >> This is a profile of Blake Nef from. Politico. Nef confessed to grappling in. a roundabout way with the possibility. that his maximalist position on free. speech has helped foster the conditions.

that have allowed rank conspiracism to. flourish. I've reflected on this often, he said, sipping a samorous flavored. cold brew on a leather couch in the. studios green room. So, let's just stop. right there. >> A maximalist position on free speech. And this is not that, by the way, that's. not a Blake Nef quote. It's just to be. completely fair and we want to be fair. That's the anti-free speech politico. author Ian Ward's. kind of clever framing here, but it's.

very common maximalist position. Well, there's no maximalist position on free. speech anymore than there is on. pregnancy. You're you either are for it. or you are pregnant or you're not. Free. speech means acknowledging the inherent. right of your fellow citizens, whether. or not you like them, to say what they. really think. Period. And if what they really think is. repugnant to you, and if they have some. version of events that you consider a. poisonous conspiracy theory, there's not. really anything you can do about it. In. fact, there's literally nothing you can. do about it under our system. And I.

would also argue under Christian. precepts other than rebut it and offer a. competing vision that is more compelling. to listeners. That's it. As Charlie Kirk. said at the outset of this segment, more. speech. But that's not the conclusion that many. on the right are coming to now. Why? Probably because they spend way too much. time on social media and they read every. attack on themselves and they get more. paranoid. In fact, they become kind of a.

version of what they claim to hate, which is conspiracy nuts. But they get. completely overheated. They feel like. they're at war. I'm at war. Never seen. war, of course, but they think they're at war. They. think they're under attack. And bit by bit, it completely corrods. their decency, but also their sense of. proportion. And they wind up abandoning. the principles they're there to uphold. So as they sit day after day underneath. a sign that says Charlie Kirk on it,

they wind up with views like this. And. we're going to read this and we're. quoting, this is Blake Nef, the guy in. the Charlie Kirk show. We got what we. wanted on speech and that means we also. have to endure a lot of things that were. tamped down on before. NFC's only two. potential paths for this is a verbatim. quote. Either we have to make our peace. with censorship and explain how we're. going to do that or we have to explain. how we're going to combat this without. censorship. Period. But we've got to.

confront it. And that's the point at which you just. you just feel like, well, we're done. We may have to make our peace with. censorship. How would we do that? It's. like saying, "Well, you know, I'm I'm. really mad. I We may have to make our. peace with genocide. We may have to. kill, you know, didn't didn't ever think. I'd say it. Didn't ever think I'd be. here. We're going to have to kill them. all." Maybe there's another way to do. it. But it's possible we have to make. our peace with murdering all their kids.

just because it's it's that important. It's that bad. Didn't Didn't ever think. we'd come to this place, but here we. are. So, we're going to think about it. No, you can never make your peace with. turning other people into slaves. You can never be the slave master. because slavery is bad for them, but. it's even worse for you. It is totally. dehumanizing to everyone involved to.

turn other human beings into something. that is less than a human being. And. that is exactly what censorship does. each and every time. >> And it's just remarkable that Blake Nef. is carrying on Charlie Kirk's legacy, Andrew Kovat as well. Um, we see how. they this is their eitheror, right? They. are either sending out legal letters. like they believe now that speech needs. to be fought as opposed to what. Charlie's perspective was was that the.

way that you combat speech is with. better speech. That's the answer to that. question. You think about it often and. you know what? The only way that we. defeat speech that we don't like is with. better speech, with better ideas, with. um us being out there vocalizing what we. actually believe. It's not an eitheror. It actually it's just not an eitheror, Blake. Um but that is who they are. I. want to be clear. That is what Turning. Point USA is. They are now electing uh. into these positions these influencers.

who are calling for lawsuits, censorship. They want def trying to walk. people into defamation claims as you. guys saw when I did my debate with. Andrew Wilson. And they're trying to. keep their hands clean. But they're. they're obviously platforming these. individuals on Charlie Kirk's show who. Charlie Kirk would have never hosted on. his show. He would have been disgusted. with these people. They are so gutter. and so trash. And that is what they are. turning his namesake into. Just start. your own show, Blake. If you really.

truly believe that you've got the IT. factor, [laughter]. sorry to laugh. I'm sure your parents. told you you do, then start your own. show, Blake, because I've never You. crashed Charlie's. um at actually this might be your only. talent. the the ability to have crashed. an organization and have crashed a. business and have crashed a su what was. once a successful show in the speed of. one year.

might be the only demonstration of. talent that you have. Uh and so yeah uh. Blake is exactly as Tucker describes. him. He this is this is ROT at Turning. Point USA and they're trying to soft. launch these ideas. They are quite. literally behaving as what we termed to. be the left. The strategies they are. employing are the strategies that the. left employed in 2015 that we asserted.

need to be defeated. You're too you're too powerful, right? You're just making phone calls. You'll. make this go away. You'll make a person. publish a hit piece. You've got money. you can spend to have somebody attacked. You'll launch lawsuits to shut people. up. That is what Turning Point USA 2.0. is. And it is so far removed from. Charlie Kirk's vision. If you do not see. that yet, you absolutely must wake up. Gosh, we are so overtime today. Um, we. will uh take a quick break and be right.

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Charlie and then they chose to have his. one-year anniversary there." It's. top-notch insanity. Yeah, it is. It is. top-notch insanity. Like, if you believe. that you were so failed by the state of. Utah, why would you let allow any. anniversary event to be hosted at that. same venue? That doesn't make any sense. Um, this next user wrote, "Turning USA. probably canled their Candacees on Leave. party when they found out that Baron. would be taking over the show." Oh, boy. Yeah, it's only going to get worse. I'm. sorry. Uh Blake got to cancel the party.

They were probably so excited. Like. she's gone for like eight weeks. It's. going to be so great. And we're of. course going to attack her every second. of the day as we do whenever she's gone, even for a week. [snorts] Koko Rose. wrote, and this is regarding the 2022. footage, a mystery. She wrote, "So there. was footage readily available of Tyler. Robinson from several years ago in a. minor accident, but the footage of him. turning himself in was deleted due to. their retention policy." That's correct. remember Utah news broke that they tried. to gamma request the cameras outside of.

Tyler Robinson showing up to the police. precinct and they were told something. about it being outside of the bounds of. how long they hold on to footage. So. that is a remarkable point to bring up. and totally true. And by the way I do. want to add that we received an update. on that. The same two reporters who. released that footage of Tyler Robinson. Scripts News were the same two reporters. who released the footage of the person. who was blamed. Brian Cole Jr. for.

dropping off the pipe bombs in DC for. January 6th. Another total Fed. operation. It was a fed operation. January 6. I hope you guys woken up to. that. Okay, we all were mad at each. other. We got to get over. You got to. say sorry on both sides. January 6th was. a fed operation. And actually now Brian. Cole's parents are speaking out. They're. actually going on Tucker Carlson to say. that it was a federal operation. And. they put this on their son. And what did. they do? They immediately released old. footage of Brian Cole being pulled over. It's like they're finding people and.

intentionally storing information about. them and like maybe they're identifying. people who are slightly autistic, are. involved in certain groups, are highly. intelligent, and they're keeping them in. a file in case the feds need to commit a. crime and pin it on them. I find that to. be remarkable. Absolutely remarkable. that it was the same two journalists. that got this footage that should not. exist either in Washington DC or. Virginia or wherever Brian Cole is from. or in Utah as we demonstrated.

This is um this is the new Turning Point. USA guys. This is the new Turning Point. USA. This is a powerful apparatus. is. not the grassroots organization that. Charlie Kirk started and they will. partner with anything anything and do. anything. They have proven that. They. have a proven track record of that. They. don't care. Matt Tardio, we don't care. We don't even care at all what you did. Um Erica will have access to high. schools while you are chasing young.

women down alleys in front of ICE. facilities. And we'll have you on the. show as long as you say something bad. about Candace. They are demonstrating who they are and. parents are right to be alarmed that. these events are are happening under. just a cloud of secrecy, so to speak. Parents shouldn't be finding out about. that in a newsletter. They a weekly. newsletter with no time to basically. react. Students shouldn't be texting. their parents saying, "I'm trapped in a. gym because Kirk is here." I'm sure.

obviously like I said the second. messages were tongue andcheek but it it. gives you a general sense of how they. feel about her and yet they're required. to attend an assembly. Not required. three people did opt out or three people. opted out. So there's that. comments on today's episode. Blake Nef. reminds me of Golem in Lord of the Rings. where Charlie's microphone is the ring. They're all just gunning for that power. Someone creative needs to mock up an AI.

short. Disgusting demons. You are so. correct. You know who's got to do it? The guy who What's his uh uh remind me. of Where Forbidden? That sounds like a. job for at Forbidden on X. He makes the. best AI videos. And yes, it's like they. all just just wanted the power. All of. them. Erica, Andrew Kovette, Blake DeF, oh it'll all be mine. And that's why. they're crashing out and they're angry. at us and they're sending all of these. goons to attack people who are. investigating the Charles Kirk. assassination, which is just wild. Mandy.

writes, "Yet again, Andrew Kovat and. Erica Kirk forget their Bible and. Jesus's teaching about not forcing. people to accept his message. Jesus. tells the disciples to shake the dust. off their feet. Matthew 10:14, Mark. 6:11, and Luke 9:5." Well, you know how. they read their Bibles? They read their. Bibles how they want the Bibles to uh be. taken by the public. They find the. verses about the widow and then say, "Honor the widow." It's a very selfish. read of the Bible. Um, then they command. you guys and say anything else is a.

cult. If you see evidence with your own. eyes, that is just um, sorry, not a. cult, narcissism. You're you're seeking. secret knowledge. It's narcissism to. want to know who killed Charlie Kirk. You don't want to do that. That's. forbidden. Do not seek secret knowledge. Trust the science. Trust Alex Clark. Damn it. It writes, "I'm on team truth. Kenneth Owens happens to be here with. all of us." Uh, Tivoli Wy, hope I'm.

saying that right. Writes, "And this, George. This This is why we don't delete. text messages." Yes. To my husband. This. is why we don't delete text messages. Thank you. Tells me to clean up my. digital life. No, I will not clean up my. digital life. I keep messages from. everybody forever. My digital life is a. hot mess. I have nothing to hide. That's. also why like it's for lawsuits when. Blake Lively, it's been a bad year for. Blakes. Bad two years for Blakes. I got. to say that when she's like, "Oh, this. must be some plot." Girl, have my phone.

There's never a plot. I get involved in. things that I'm passionate about. And. you better bet yourselves that if I was. that passionate about Justin Baldoni and. Blake Lively, you can only imagine how I. feel like it is my mission to expose. what happened on September 10th. Britney Brics writes, "Been thinking. about the various tactics that you've. opened our minds to like boiling the. frog, MK Ultra, etc. Would love to know. your thoughts on programming in and. around Charlie, convincing people to. turn on him. I love you." I agree with.

you. It's I am revisiting my own life. and realizing that none of that stuff. was by coincidence. I mean, obviously me. and Charlie noticed it was happening and. we're like, "What's h why are these. random attacks happening?" And we I I. should have showed you all the messages. between us at that time and we just. couldn't figure it out. And then we have. this outside person at the time, Erica. France, being like, "Oh, it's the. Grapers." And Andrew's like, "It's the. Grapers making up. The Grapers are. making it up." Well, Andrew, it can't be. both.

Did Charlie and I stop being friends in. 2019? Or do the Grapers make that up? It. can't be both. You can't You can't go. back on that, man. Or do you maybe have a 4chan account? Do. you and Erica have a 4chan account? I. want to know. I don't know many women. who can work their way around 4chan. I'll tell you that for free. Any. faith-based women that know how to work. their way around 4chan or whatever that. for for for pleb's archive and there was.

just happened to she logs on and she. happens to find this post of exactly. what Charlie and I are living through. that week. It's the graers. just one post dedicated to it and she. sends it to Andrew. Why? I didn't know. him like that in 2019. Anyway, saying way too much. As always, this is what happens. You guys, if you. would like to support the show, you know. what you have to do. You got to buy some. merch. It's the easiest way to support. us. Buy a mug at canson.com. Buy a stand.

cup. Collect them all. Christ is king. We don't know. No, but we know. And soon. we're going to No. No. Andrew, you can't be lying like this. You can't. be lying by omission. I do not accept. that. Okay, I'm accept that. Andrew, um, you can buy a CIA hats. It actually. should be the decentralized intelligence. agency. We got nothing to hide. I love. the conspiracy girly muggy. That's. actually kind of my favorite muggy. Where is that muggy? Where's that muggy,

Ashley? Love the mugs. Oh, look at me looking. cute. I look cute, right? I feel like I. look cute there. I look better than the. photo that Trump shared of me. I wasn't. looking my hottest. I'm not going to. lie. I wasn't my hottest. I was sick. I. had mold illness. I wasn't looking my. flyest, but I was still kind of cute. The red the red bandana was cute. [laughter] Whatever. We'll see you guys. tomorrow. As a reminder, we have book. club.

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