EXCLUSIVE: Leaked TPUSA Audio | Candace EP 296

All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I. survived the ice storm. I'm sorry that. we were down yesterday. We had no. internet, but we are going to make up. for it with a show this Friday. Anyway, what do I have for you today? You guys. already know that many people are upset. with me. And by many people, I mean the. mainstream media and all their cronies. They're upset for a lot of reasons. Uh, foremost, because I mentioned the idea. that Charlie's life may have been the. Truman Show. How dare I? Well, it's. about to get a little more weird when I.

tell you something else that we have. learned about the origins of the X-Men. X-Men school that he went to in his. youth. I probably should have named the. thumbnail X-Men origins missed. opportunity. Also, we have and they are. uh seemingly very upset that we are. going to share with you this conference. call that I promised you. Erica. installed as the new CEO and chairman. She headed up this conference call about. 12 days after Charlie was assassinated, just after the memorial event. And I'm.

going to allow you guys to listen to it. to see how you feel about it because I. definitely feel a thing about it. What. that thing is, I don't know. Welcome. back to Candace. Okay, before we dive in, a quick thank. you to Nimi Skincare for supporting the.

show. New year, new skin, same values. I. appreciate that Nimi focuses on quality, simplicity, and skincare that's made. right here in the USA without chasing. trends. You can visit Nimi skincare and. imi skincare.com today. Okay, so last. week I said to you guys that in the near. future we are going to do a maybe two. episodes, could be a three-part series. on Erica Kirk's past. Few people online.

were very upset about that instantly. Oh, how dare you? How could you look. into anything involving Erica Kirk? Uh, let me explain to you guys what's. happening here. You're probably. wondering what it is that we are doing. So, I'm old. I'm 36 years old. Uh, back. in my day, there used to be this thing. known as journalism. Basic journalism. It existed. I know it seems very far. off, but it would be considered probably.

back in my day literal insanity to allow. someone to take over the reigns of an. organization that quite literally relies. on the goodwill of the public. It's a. charitable organization which happened. to have raised over a quarter of a. billion dollars following the. assassination of its founder. and then apparently nobody's interested. in in doing a basic profile piece on the. new chairman and CEO that took over.

Like that's that that's actually that. makes no sense. And so that's what we. are committing ourselves to. We are. doing a couple of episodes to separate. fact from fiction when it comes to the. background of Erica Kirk because the. public deserves to know and like I said. it's basic journalism. This entire idea. that well Charlie wanted this. that just would fly probably actually. nowhere in the world not even in the old. world not even under monarchy rule in.

the 11th century in England would that. work. You can't just say, "Oh, well that. was his MS. That was his queen consort.". And hand her a kingdom. Even under that. model, it would be Charlie's son that. would inherit Turning Point USA. So, stop doing that. Stop saying that. Doesn't make any sense. The public is. not biting. I am not biting. And to be. clear, the more time that goes on, the. more that we are seeing the general. direction that this company is taking. under her stewardship, uh, the less.

we're liking. The general public doesn't. like it. I don't like it and especially. the recent bout of paranoia where we had. a bunch of employees who factually. worked 20our days. This that fact by the. way you are about to hear Erica confirm. herself. Those employees were then fired. without even being given a clear reason. as to why. Just got to go going in a. different direction. That doesn't. exactly match what we were told uh as. the public. We were told that they're a.

family. How dare anybody question. anybody ever in the family followed. immediately almost seemingly in the new. year by get out. We're just moving a. different direction. Knock knock knock. We're at your door. You're fired. [laughter] and you better hand me your. computer or else. We just want to know. what happened here. Anyway, being a. 501c3 company, being a charity, making. becoming a charitable organization makes. you of course accountable to the public.

always. They are allowed to ask. questions even if you want to send out a. bunch of cease and desist letters. And. thanks to this recent string of. misguided firings, that's putting it. mildly, we did happen to get our hands. on an audio recording of a corporatewide. Zoom call which took place pretty. immediately following Charlie's. memorial. So for clarity, this call took. took place on Monday, uh, September. 22nd. So this is 11 days.

less than two weeks after her husband. was publicly assassinated in front of. the entire world. It's important to. remember that it's also less than 48. hours about 48 hours after his uh. private Catholic funeral mass which the. public was not privy to. Um but top. paying donors were that's also odd. We'll save that for another day. I just. think that you should know that. I want. to plug that into our master timeline,

which I know I keep promising you I'm. going to publish. I will. Uh, so we know. on September 10th, Charlie is. assassinated. This is bottom of the. timeline. Uh, on the 18th, this, by the. way, strikes me as odd in the. retrospect. As I was working on these. couple of episodes about Erica, on the 18th, just 8 days after the. assassination, she gave an inperson. interview with the New York Times at her. and Charlie's condo.

Okay. Now, regarding the New York Times. profile piece, I was totally in a cloud. of grief by myself when all of that went. down. Okay. You remember I had to go. away to Wyoming just to breathe. um to process to get closer to accepting. that it was real. I I went away for two. weeks. I didn't I didn't really catch. the fact that it was an inperson meeting. until later. 8 days after his public.

assassination, she sits down for a piece. with the publication that hated Charlie. the entire time he was alive. New York. Times was constantly writing pieces. about Charlie Kirk or pieces that just. were not kind or favorable to Charlie. Kirk. So, it's an interesting decision. and reading the article or rereading. because somebody said you should. actually go back and revisit everything. that transpired in the days after and. you kind of have new eyes and that's. very true. But in reading that article. in retrospect, something that I am. particularly struck by is the fact that.

she describes suddenly being forced into. the single mother position as the quote. unquote least traumatizing thing. Becoming a single mother suddenly eight. days later, she describes that as the. least traumatizing thing. Again, that's. an exact quotation. I I'll read it. You. can see it. Uh she's they're going into. this they're speaking about Trump's. energy and his tone toward her on phone.

calls and it reads quote from her. The. president's tone she said was soft and. embracing. I could tell he wanted to hug. me. Others have responded in the same. manner to Ms. Kirk, now left to care for. a three-year-old daughter and a. one-year-old son. That new life, Miss. Kirk said, quote, is actually the least. traumatizing thing for me since she. herself has been raised by her mother. after their parents divorced when she. was young.

And we're just supposed to pretend that. that's completely normal or whatever. I. I would figure maybe the least. traumatizing bit would be something more. mundane. Maybe along the lines, if this. was a thing, if Charlie constantly. filled up her gas tank and someone was. like, "Well, who's going to fill up your. gas tank?" She might reply, "That's. actually the least traumatizing thing. I. don't even care about that. That's just. me filling up my car." That would be. like the least traumatizing thing. Becoming a single mother after your. husband is horrifically assassinated. realizing that your children are going.

to grow up without a father. A father. who tooured the world and spoke about. the importance of fatherhood and relayed. the statistics pertaining to the youth. that grow up uh without their fathers in. the home. I would describe that as very. traumatizing. I think across the board. that's a traumatizing thing, not the. least traumatizing thing by any stretch. of an imagination. Anyway, we are now in. season 7, episode 4 of Everybody. Grieavves Differently. But that's weird.

Now, getting to this corporate call. again. Can we just go back uh if you. want to throw in that that uh schedule. again? Sorry. The uh Yeah. Okay, great. So, we have this on the 10th. He's. assassinated. On the 18th is that. inerson interview with New York Times. On the 20th, we have the funeral mass. which is held at a church at 11:00 a.m. On the 21st is the public memorial event. that is held at State Farm Stadium. And. on the 22nd, which I had not mentioned. before, I've been building this timeline. in the background. There's a private.

dinner. Not going to mention what. restaurant it's at, but the McCoys are. there. Elizabeth, Mikey, Erica, uh, and. they're in joyous spirits is exactly. what the email said of someone who was. there. They were in joyous spirits. Okay. Just want to get that. I think a lot of this uh when you hear. this call um that I'm about to play for. you, I again I'm not trying to color. your opinion, but I am going to give you. mine because it's my podcast. I'm.

allowed to do it. I do want to remind. you that Charlie has not been dead for. two weeks. That's where we have to go. back to two not even two weeks after. Charlie was publicly assassinated. not a. normal. He didn't um we had to watch. this. We had to to visually watch this. Now, the entirety of this call, which. we're not going to play, is 15 minutes. long. I'm going to figure out how to. just drop it on my X feed. Uh but I want. to make sure that we properly and fairly. contextualize it. So, we're not being.

choosy. We're not cutting this for. drama. The obvious point of this call to. set this up is to introduce Erica. She's. the she's a new leader. Not even. introducing. She's just heading up this. call. But obviously she's going to be. the at the helm of this. So they're. getting to know her and she does begin. the call by being thankful to the entire. Turning Point USA team for their work at. the memorial event. So let's take a. listen. >> Hi everybody. I still love all these. emoji Zoom [laughter].

things. Um wow. I don't even know where to begin. The. fact that we were able to pull off. an event. of a century, like it's just insane. We. had over 275,000. people that attended and. stadium overflow, Westgate. Insane, you guys. And then you have was.

it 100 million over. you guys that heard the gospel and all. about Charlie and all about everything. that you guys do and the hard work of. Turning Point USA is insane. We had. thousands that were registered to vote. I think we're at like over 200,000 for. merch sales. Don't quote me on that. because I think it just keeps like. bumping up like crazy. But I just wanted. to say a huge, huge, huge thank you to.

the events team, the development team, the graphic design team, the production. team, just phenomenal. Their incredible. work um leading into the memorial. Um and honestly, a lot of this the staff. that worked on the memorial, they had. 20our days for a week during the time of. us grieving the loss of my husband. And. honestly, I know several staff that. didn't even sleep. Um, again, you guys. are.

breathing angels, and I'm so grateful. for all of you. And obviously, a huge. thank you to the Mosaic team, VI. You. guys are 10 out of 10. Like, there's we. have the most incredible team. We just. do. And you guys know that and you guys. are all a part of that. And I am so so. thankful. Um, and if you do have a. moment and you run into any of those. staff members that you know that you. know had a role in this and you know um.

that they put a lot of their time and. effort into it, just say thank you. There's something really special um to. be seen um in moments like this and it's. not easy. I'm speaking from experience. I'm right in the trenches with you guys. Um, and so the fact that you just a. simple thank you. I don't care if any of. you have beef with each other from the. past or have any issues with. someone said something about this or.

that. Like, if you guys have any of. that, please put it to rest. My. husband's dead. Like, I'm not trying to. be morbid, but he's dead. And it puts. life into perspective of how short life. is and relationships. And God puts. people in your life for a reason. And it. teaches you a lesson. It teaches them a. lesson. So if you are going through a. time where. just lay it to rest and we are moving. forward turning point USA 2.0 with. Charlie in our hearts and that's what he. would want. >> Okay. So I'm just looking at the chat.

here and you guys are responding live in. the way that I felt live listening to. this. It is the general tone that is. offputting. It's the laughter that is. offputting. It's again, we are not even. 2 weeks after watching your husband be. assassinated. We're talking about. numbers and metrics that have been hit. And my husband's dead. Not to be morbid. That is a sentence that I and this was. not my husband and I had no sort of the.

type of relationship that she had with. him that I was able to utter. Last of. all, I mean, that's moving pretty. quickly to the acceptance phase. Now, we. know everybody grieavves differently. In. my imagination, I don't I just thought she would be more. upset. And I want to be clear, the. overall mood of this call is. extraordinarily upbeat. It's. extraordinarily happy. But of course, as.

the CEO and chairman, she does have to. address the elephant in the room, the. morbid uh elephant in the room, if you. will, because it's an obligation. and. you have a new CEO. The employees are. working 20our days, but also their. founder Charlie was publicly. assassinated less than two weeks ago. You got to address that. And you're. going to hear her address that by. recapping to them that throughout these. long working days, the employees were. provided with ample resources while they. were working.

Take a listen. I'm just grateful that. while things were still in motion and. moving around that we had our leadership. teams provide for you, counselors, pastors. I heard there were therapy. dogs. Slightly jealous that I didn't get. to have any a moment with a therapy dog. Um, breakfast. I was I was really. adamant about making sure that we paid.

for your flights for your spouses to be. there. That was something on my heart. Um. you don't want to grieve alone. No one's. supposed to grieve alone. It's not. healthy. Um but I just think it's a. beautiful honor that all all of these. benefits were made for the community to. grieve and remember Charlie. Um, and I. really hope you took advantage of those. in a healthy way when they were provided. because it's meant to be for everyone. for healing. Grief comes in waves. Um,

you know, some days are going to be. tougher than others, but. you know, take it as it comes. And. that's why you have your turning point. family and just lean on them and lean on. other people in your life that you know. will help you and pour into you and pray. with you to get you through it. Um, I. say that though that if you do need more. time to grieve, um, please continue to use um, Turning.

Point USA's network of counselors. Um, we have pastors. I mean, there are so. many resources for you. If you do need. additional time off, um, please talk to. your director. um, about using paid time off uh, for. that. Um and again it's not not easy but. again grief is hard. Um otherwise.

honestly uh Turning Point USA and. Turning Point Action. will steam ahead you guys. We have. Charlie would want us to get back to. work and that's what we're doing and. that's what we did with the memorial and. I'm so honored and proud of each and. every one of you because that's what. we're going to do in his honor and in. his name. We have. so much to [clears throat] do which is. exciting. U Charlie in heaven is like. you guys thought you had a busy schedule. then just you wait and he's doing some.

awesome things with Jesus in heaven. right now but there's so much work to be. done. I mean, since his assassination, uh, we have 100,000. chapter 100,000 chapter requests. Uh, we. have 300,000 new donors. That is a blessing in itself. Um, again, not normal. Oh, God. Um, I think. we have 50,000 plus hat orders to.

fulfill. I mean, I'm saying these. numbers because it puts into perspective. that we're not just sitting and thinking. and looking at the wall being like, what. do we do like that? There is so much to. do. You have over 20,000 Afest. registrations. There's a lot happening there and none. of it is what I would be expecting to. happen there. So basically what the. employees said to me was that they got. onto this call and you know everyone's.

exhausted, everyone's been working and. they pull off this massive memorial and. then there's kind of this approach where. it's like well if you guys need paid. time off like Charlie's in heaven. dancing wanting you to work harder. He's. just up there like you better work but. you can use the paid time off that you. have earned by the way if you need to. grieve more. But imagine you're the. employee. You're like, "Okay, well, this. is his wife saying this, so am I weird? Would I be like, I would be pretty weird. if I needed to take time off and his. wife is saying she's full steam ahead?".

That's that's the mentality they had. Like, how how are we supposed like are. we weird for wanting to grieve? Is that. not the vibe? How can we take paytime. off when Erica's wife is saying full. steam ahead? It's very strange. It is uh. even kind of using this idea of Charlie. being um in heaven looking down and the. laughter. I I don't know. I feel like the rest of.

you and I feel uncomfortable. And of. course now what we're going to listen to. is her pivot to the future vision. because that's what the bulk of this is. about. And we it's going to consist of. the notebooks that I keep telling you. the public is never going to see. Apparently, what I gather from this is. that Charlie presented to the staff a. vision for 2025, but Erica is going to. say that there was a vision beyond that. uh all the way to 2030. And there is a. there's a project 2030.

And then she's going to kind of want to. say that she's happy, but then catch. herself realizing that that would be. kind of weird to say that she's happy. Take a listen. The prophetic mind of my. husband. was that he always planned for the. future. You guys are obviously aware of. like vision 2025, but Charlie was also. working on vision 2030 in the weeks. leading up to September 10th. And that's.

and he was working really closely with. Justin. And that's why Justin had been. appointed the role of COO because he was. literally I remember phone calls when. Charlie and I would take our night walks. and it would be 10:00 at night and him. and Justin would just be talking about. the plans. I was aware of the plans. I have his journals that are aware of. the plans. Like there is no confusion. of what's to come. And I want to give.

you guys that reassurance that. it's full seam ahead and the board and I. are working with Justin and the. executive leadership teams to make sure. that all of those plans come into effect. 2030 and beyond. Um, but I again am so. grateful for all of you. I'm so proud of. all of you. Um, you honor my husband so well. All of you. do. And.

it's weird to say I'm excited. I I. really hesitate saying that. It's really. hard for me to say that. It's a really. weird thing to say, but I think it comes. from a space of peace, knowing that God's. using this and we're humbly witnessing. the gospel in real time.

I don't know what to say. She doesn't want to say she's happy. I. don't want to say I'm happy, but I where. it comes from. Let me explain the. happiness that I feel. It comes from. peace. because we're witnessing the gospel in. real time. All of that all of this makes. my skin crawl. It genuinely makes my. skin crawl. I'm going to go ahead and. say that. You can go find your. commentator who's going to tell you. everybody griefs differently. Nope. We. are That is less than two weeks after. Charlie was publicly assassinated. That's that's not that doesn't that.

doesn't feel right to me. it doesn't. feel right uh to I would say the. majority of people or that doesn't feel. right uh knowing that they're joyous at. dinners and again this is when people. who did not know Charlie could not stop. crying and were sending me emails who. have never met Charlie who didn't even. know at Turning Point USA was uh because. they watched his assassination could not. stop crying and pull themselves together. that is not the emotion that we're.

getting there like I said the entire. call is upbeat. and the portions where we are even. speaking about grief. It it feels like. an obligation like you know we done you. got the dogs and what Charlie wants is. for you to work now and that is that is. how the employees that I have spoken to. who are on that call that's how they. felt. I my assumption, by the way, why. I'm addressing this now is because my. assumption watching um everything that's. gone on, my assumption was that she.

really was trying to figure things out. I I I assumed in the silence, right, she. wasn't doing interviews then. I assumed. she couldn't get out of bed. I assumed. that she couldn't pick her head up. And. I felt that people were being unfair in. judging outfits and in judging uh you. know, whether or not they liked how her. hair was done. I said, "Okay, she's. speaking at the memorial. We expect her. to speak at the memorial event." I felt. the public was being unfair. Now that. we're kind of getting more on the inside. organization,

the now fired employees are telling me. no. It was quite the opposite. She was. in the office every day with Stacy. Sheridan, running around with Stacy. Sheridan, taking phone calls with Stacy. Sheridan. That's like the head of the. fundraising for Turning Point USA. So, what I had imagined in my head was. happening simply was not. So. something is not right. That's what I. would like to say. That does not that. call the timing the energy of that call. does not feel right to me. This um I.

don't know. I don't know. I don't know. what's happening, but I think we are. inching closer to figuring out what's. going on. That's for sure. And we will. have more for you in the coming weeks. It also led me to another stunning. discovery that we have made in large. part thanks to internet sleuths. There. was a lot of media panicking when we. discussed Project Looking Glass. We. discussed the fact that Charlie was. indeed a gifted child who went to a.

literal children's school for the. gifted. I told you guys also that street. lights used to go out when he ran. There's a whole term for that. Apparently, a lot of people go through. that. We saw that in the comment. section. Now, what does it all mean? On. my episode, I posited that the military. was keeping its eye on quote unquote. gate children, gifted children, different by different names, but you. know, terminating it more broadly, children that go through the gate. program, that Charlie's life may have. therefore been a literal Truman show.

once they realized that he was. extraordinarily gifted. So, let me remind you that when Charlie. was having these visions about his death. back in 2018, he specifically told me. that he knew from the moment that he. began Turning Point USA that he was. going to die young. I'm going to show. reshow you this uh text message again so. you can see it. Literally, he writes, "Since the beginning of Turning Point. USA, I knew in my gut that I might get. wiped out at any time. I cannot explain. it, but I dream about it all the time. Like all the time. Not really afraid of.

it, but I'm just telling you what I know. to be true. I'm not sure I'm going to. live begins with I'm not sure I'm going. to live to see the end of this. revolution. But interesting what he says. since the beginning of Turning Point. USA. We should probably therefore go. back to the founding story of Turning. Point USA. The story the public knows. and the story that I was told is that. Charlie was this teenager, didn't get. into West Point. Anyway, he's speaking. at a conference where a man named Bill.

Montgomery happened to be in attendance. He has since passed. I've met Bill. Montgomery. He's very kind to me. Um, and my point in bringing this up is not. to throw any shade on him, but because. I'm now interested in this origin story. Um, anyways, he's in attendance. He's. absolutely floored uh at at Benedict Dy. University. When Charlie speaks, he. immediately knew that he was sort of. looking at a future president. This is. an article. I think it was done in the. Atlantic back in uh it doesn't matter. what year. Anyways, it reads in the. Atlantic. Montgomery was at Benedictton.

University in western Chicago suburb of. Lyall, Illinois for the college's youth. government day in May of 2012. The slate. of speakers put the kids to sleep, he. told the National Journal. But when Kirk. took the floor, the energy in the room. completely changed. The kids weren't. sleeping anymore and their attention was. wrapped on Kirk. Inspired, Montgomery. went up to him after his speech and told. him as only a man 50 years senior can.

say that he needed to delay college to. pursue a higher calling. Quote, "I don't. know you," Montgomery recalled saying. "But you need to start an organization. to reach out to young people with your. message." A month after Montgomery met. Kirk, the duo launched Turning Point. USA. want you to hold on to that phrase, I don't know you, but. again, that's the same story that I was. told. So, I was a bit surprised to learn. that there may be a larger story here. Now, Bill Montgomery was Air Force. He's. in the Air Force reserves. Uh, Bill.

Montgomery also happened to be from. Lincoln, Nebraska. Get getting into that. one of those Egyptian plane stops. A lot. of these people are tied to Lincoln, Nebraska that are in this story. Saving. that for another day. Now, not much is. known about what specifically Bill. Montgomery did during his time in the. military, but we do know that he moved. to the Chicago area thereafter, which. obviously in the area where Charlie's. X-Men School was. Uh the X-Men School, I.

just like to call it that, was actually. called Creative Children's Academy. It. opened in 1982 for the academically. gifted. Um from preschool up into the. eighth grade. In 1999, it changed its. name officially to Quest Academy. It. tells us uh on its website or I'm sorry, in a past article that it receives. corporate and private funding from who? We don't know. What I would like to know. what corporations funded that academy. What we do know is that it's a stones.

throw from Northrup Grumman, the massive. aerospace and defense company that has. extensive federal contracts dating back. to World War II. Just put that fact in. the back of your mind. It may mean. nothing at all, but I just want to say. that because it I it came up when I was. researching the general area in. Palatine, Illinois. Now, the Children's, like I uh Children's Creative Academy, I. should tell you, was founded by a woman. named Helen Barts. Okay. Her husband is. a Reverend Robert Barts of Arlington. Heights. Helen Barts. Now, a tip that I.

received and I was able to confirm is. that Helen Barts was actually good. friends with Bill Montgomery and his. wife Edith Montgomery. Edith Walker. Montgomery. She actually goes by her. last name, Edith Walker. The person. claims that Edith Walker, who I've since. learned immigrated from Germany after. World War II, and I can't really find. much else about her, uh, became a, and. this is correct, an adolescent. psychiatric nurse. So, she was a.

psychiatric nurse to the youth and that. she was actually the person that started. the school with Helen Arts and that's. has since virtually been wiped from. public record. But that that's what. you're missing is that these people all. knew each other. The person claims that. Bill and his wife and a certain Robert. Flood who is in Dan Flood's family, this. is what they claim, and I I I have since. found this person, said that they knew. each other since before the school even. got started. They were all working for.

this evangelical. uh company, evangelical salesforce known. as the Shackley Corporation. It's still. in existence today. I'm going to give. you a bit of information. The Shackley. Corporation was the first company that. ever created a multivitamin in America. It grew to be a massive uh basically a. middle- level management corporation. which like I said commanded this. evangelical sales force. Shackley was. basically described as like a religious. fervor that was sweeping the nation for.

nutrition. It was started by a man who. preached the gospel of nutrition by our. products but also the gospel um is what. this is really about. And it grew to be. a massive company that engaged in a. 25-year contract with NASA. You're like, "What?" Yeah. For supplements that they. could take to space. Now, it sounds to. me like some good oldfashioned. government moneyaundering. But sure, if. if you are like Skyler and believe in. the moon landing, sure, maybe you need. some vitamins up there. Now, working off. of this tip, I was indeed, like I said,

able to confirm that Helen Barts. So, again, to give you these names, Helen. Barts started the school and I confirmed. that she did indeed prior to worked at. Shackley. She actually ran the Shackley. Center in Arlington Heights. I'm having. a lot of trouble, and the reason why I'm. putting this out there is I'm having. trouble learning more about Bill and. Edith. Uh, like I did Bill serve in the. military. Uh, why specifically did he. move Chicago? Where in Germany is Edith. Walker from? who was her first husband. because Walker was clearly not her first. name when she moved here. Uh where.

exactly was she a psychiatric adolescent. nurse? Uh again using her full name, Edith Marie Walker, uh in Arlington. Heights. where Charlie grew up. Did she see. Charlie? Is that a plausibility? I would. say yes. And I know that Charlie told me. the story that they wanted to drug him. when he was a kid, but his mom said no. My kid's a genius. and instead because. his mother refused, they instead put him. into this special school. Again, this is.

investigation, maybe at least nowhere. But this is sure as hell interesting. enough for me to put it out there. Uh. mostly because the idea that everything. we know about Turning Point's origin. story could also be incorrect is equal. parts terrifying and fascinating. It. would give new meaning to the idea of. his life being the Truman Show. That's I. think that's fair to state that. If you. have any more information, uh please. message us. email, send us an email at. more tips@canacewowens.com. Maybe um your research will be better. than mine, but I am particularly. interested in Edith Walker. Um Edith.

Walker Montgomery and where she came. from in Germany and who her family is. was all very fascinating and interesting. time in America indeed. Anyway, we'll. take a brief break here before we come. back and give you an update on the. internet sleuththes after I gave you. that message which sure read like a. threat from a Christian Zionist. All right, you guys. Nimi skincare is. why I rarely if ever switch my skincare. routine around. There's a lot of.

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Okay, let me connect some dots for you. here. I see somebody in the chat. First. off, you guys are freaking out about. listening to that call. It makes. everybody uncomfortable. That is normal. And now we are going to have to deal. with the next psychological operation. that tells us that it's wrong that we. listened to the call. Goodbye. We don't. care. Something's not right. We sense. it's not right at Turning Point USA. And. it feels like the people trying to get. to the truth are being penalized. Okay. Now, I do want to say to you what is. particularly I found to be interesting. about this Bill Montgomery angle and. this Shackley Corporation and their.

contract with NASA. And you've got to go. way back. You got to go way back to my. episode on the moon landing and why I. don't believe the moon landing happened. because Operation Paperclip, which. somebody uh has called out in the chat. already. Operation Paperclip was when we. went over and we got these quote unquote. scientists scientist Nazis from Germany. and we brought him here and we're. supposed to go, "Oh, that's all fine. that the CIA did this because now we. have we had the Apollo program. We went. to the moon." What if we didn't go to. the moon? What actually did we bring.

these scientists over for? These are the. questions that I ask myself because I. don't believe we went to the moon and I. but I do believe we brought over these. people and these families and I think. they were demented people and they were. sick people and we bury project Monarch. which was the precursor to MK Ultra. Breit Mcronone's trigger u in the. lawsuit don't bring up MK Ultra the. precursor being project Monarch Monarch. where they were intentionally harming. children um trying to sort of uh uh. abuse people into compliance uh mind.

control. So that's interesting. That is. interesting. And now we are seeing a. bunch of people and I really do believe. that these are the white walkers in our. society. These people are among us that. people are mind controlled slaves. literally which was the entire purpose. of Project Monarch. If you follow my. idea. uh the moonland didn't happen. My fact. if you want to follow the facts the. moonland didn't happen. And that would. basically mean the CIA was bringing over. perverts. Like just bring over a ton of.

perverts. and I'd like a list of their. names. And I am very interested in how. much NASA comes up in a lot of the stuff. that I am researching. Now, this brings. me to the most savage internet thing. I've ever seen happen. Credit to at. Brave Report. Uh some of these smaller. accounts that just savage I I showed you. guys this message. I said Turning. Point's not going to come out and tell. you who wrote this message. this Zionist. who is spelling like you guys noted God.

putting a dash there. You guys were like. that's not how Christians would write. this. It turns out that well Lorie. Cardardoza Moore The Brave Report pulled. up as an evangelical Zionist who said. that she then learned later on that. she's Jewish but she is still an. evangelical. She's a maniac. I mean. there's no question she's a maniac. And. virtually everything that was said in. this text message was also a rant that. Lori decided to do live on the internet. pertaining to Tucker's totally sensible.

speech. Listen to Lorie Cardardoza Moore. rant in her car. >> Carson with his mocking voice and his. mocking laughter. They were horrified by. what they saw. I had three couples reach. out to me who had been to the Turning. Point USA conference and this was in. Tampa a couple weeks ago. They called me. and said they were horrified by what. they saw. Horrified. They saw Tucker.

Carlson get up and act like another. crazy person talking condemning Israel. praising Qatar with his mocking voice. and his mocking laughter. So Tucker, right after him comes Michelle Bachmann. Michelle has five minutes to make an. argument for why we have to stand with. Israel. To these young people at D USA, when she starts talking in that. conference about supporting Israel and. and and why America should stand with.

Israel, the people in the audience start. booing her. I spoke with her personally. She said 10% in the room got up and. walked out on her. That is shameful. Then Charlie Kirk, this is his event. He's responsible for what people are. saying and doing. Does he get up and. condemn Tucker or correct Tucker for. what he said about Israel and how. dangerous Qatar is to us? No. Did.

Charlie get up and defend Michelle. Bachmann? Did he condemn the people that. got up and walked out on her that booed. her? Did he say why we stand with Israel. and we support Israel? No, he didn't. That tells us everything we need to. know. >> Yeah. Christian Zionism, man. Sell your. stocks immediately on Christian. You got. to absolutely just sell sell as this is. this is going down. You just see this is. obviously it's almost like they just. hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be.

Christians. That's the vibe that you. start to get when you realize this is. the only thing they care about. This is. all they care about. And they will rant. and they will rave and they will scream. at you. And in case you are wondering. why so many of them seem to have these. extensive acting backgrounds, uh you can. look no further than Lorie Cardardoza. Moore because these internet sloohs. aren't playing around. the DCIA, the. decentralized intelligence agency, is. moving quicker. And they found that, yeah, that's what Lor's background is in.

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$2 first minute45 cents additional. minutes. >> Why not call now? All you have to do is. listen. >> She's not the only one by the way who. was an actor and this is a person that. I'm quite interested in which is her. husband. Uh she is married to a man. named Stanley Clark Moore. He has an Air. Force background. Uh, also went to go. work for NASA if if his Wikipedia is to. be believed for a little bit. But little. else is known about him other than the.

fact that he grew up on Air Force bases. Um, that he graduated from high school. in Texas, humbly Texas. Which Air Force. bases? Who is his father? I got to know. who everybody's daddy is. You guys, you. guys know me. I got to know. If I don't. know who your granddad is, I don't trust. you. I don't if you're in Texas in the. 60s especially, I got to know who your. granddad is. If your granddad was. involved with the military, you got to. tell me right now who's your granddad. I. need to know who Stanley Clark's father. was. So, internet sleuths. Get at it.

Um, which air force base? Message us. more tips at candacewowens.com. I feel like this this is important. somehow and there's just a lot of. military ties in all of this everywhere. I mean, even because we're kind of. everywhere. Someone messaged me and let. me know that Turning Point is, you know, shooting their Super Bowl commercial. here in Tennessee in Nashville and. they're working with this company where. the CEO is from Loheed Martin just.

everywhere. It's military connections. everywhere at all times. And I do kind. of feel like the military cult has been. in power since LBJ helped murder uh JFK. set him up and then um I think cleaned. house and put in his guys in the. military. That's how I feel. Anyways, not at the bottom. Obviously, tons of. brave American men and women uh who. serve, but serve who? That's the. question. Anyway, just wanted to very quickly.

comment because people were pinging me. on this about Kanye taking out a full. page in the Wall Street Journal to. apologize Kanye's apology. Also uh sat. down with Vanity Fair or answered. questions for Vanity Fair about this. apology whether or not he means it. He. speaks about his bipolar episode. Said. that he is on new meds, that 2025 uh or. 2024 was a a tough year for him and. there and that this is not a PR move. that he is sorry to the people that he. hurt. I just want to just broadly say.

this because this comes up all the time. There's always this Candace God. Yay. That I love Yay. He's like a brother to. me. I am never going to turn my back on. Yay. I'm here for the Yay of all. seasons. He he and I agree on many. things, disagree on many things at all. times. If he wants to apologize to. people that he specifically has hurt, he. is welcome to do that. And of course, for people that are now trying to conrue. this and attach and put like Candace, this has nothing to do with my. viewpoints whatsoever on Israel, people.

who mass murder children. Uh. so I support Yay and everything that he. does, you know, and if I don't support. him in anything, I will speak to him. directly. So, I just wanted to state. that because people were asking me, "What do you think about this?" It's. Yay. Yay is always doing something uh. whatever he wants to do. And the reason. why he and I get on so well is because. Yay's got to be Yay. And Candace has got. to be Candace. It's just how it works. Anyway, we'll take a brief break and. then I will get to some of your messages. as I see the chat lighting up with that.

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independence, which has been fun. It has. been a lot of fun. We've taken a lot of. risks and we because we've been able to. Okay, reading for you guys the top. comment from last episode. Uh, Michelle. wrote, "Didn't Erica Kirk say that no. one can talk bad about her TPUSA family, but then she fires them without a. reason? Make that make sense? It doesn't. make any sense. And my general opinion. now is that she is, this is my opinion, since we caught Andrew Kovette with the. parent tact parent paramount tactical.

tweet, holding it that she's. orchestrating a lot behind the scenes. and keeping her hands clean. I think. that became very obvious to me in that. moment and then going backward and. finding that these are she's not. misspeaking. I mean, sometimes she's. just saying a lie, right? I lived in. China. No, I didn't live I never lived. in China. Then you go backward and you. go, you know, I didn't never date. anybody. And people are constantly. trying to clean that up. It's like, you. don't say, I didn't date for five years. if you did date for five years. And then. they're like, well, no, just meant in. New York City. Like, that's the most. ridiculous thing I've ever heard that.

you just That just makes no sense. If. you had a boyfriend the whole time you. were in New York City, but he happened. to live in Philadelphia. You don't say, "I didn't date for 5 years." That's. that's not what you say. You could say I. didn't date anybody from New York City, but I'm kind of getting tired of. everyone like extending things and not. just calling out something that's just. not true. It's just not true. Becca uh. writes, "When Erica talks, she is so. boring. She has not had that special. thing that Charlie had, and it will be. the end of Turning Point USA if they.

don't make a change fast. She is. unlikable on the surface because she. acts elite. Goodbye, Turning Point USA.". Well, it's interesting that you say that. because that, as I told you, was the. feedback that a lot of these employees. who got fired had. They had no access to. her. It didn't feel like Charlie. Charlie felt accessible. They knew what. his vision was. He He was that way. Genuinely, he was that way. He was. certainly not an elitist in any way. whatsoever. Like I said to even want to buy, even. when he had the money, just buy himself. a suit, go to a tailor, and things of.

that nature because he wanted to be a. good steward of Turning Point USA. um. the the money that's coming in because. obviously the majority of the money. comes from small pocket donors and it it. seems like every effort that they are. exerting is to go after people who are. trying to find out the truth about what. happened to Charlie Kirk. That doesn't. make sense. You can't make that make. sense. You can't make a call like that. make sense to people. Jay Burgerer. writes, "Don't forget MLK started. college at 15 and had a faith-based.

movement by the time that he was 21. I. actually did not know all of that. I am. ashamed of myself. Coffee addicted Mama. Bear writes, "I ordered your book the. second you said you were shipping to. Canada." Oh, yep. Make him a sandwich. We now ship to Canada. It was truly eye. opening. I'm sure you had a good time. reading it. I It's very funny to go. backward and to realize where turn where. feminism has gone. It's just very funny. and sad and weird. Continue. I am. impatiently waiting for my conspiracy. girly cup. It shall be there. Your. constant devotion to truth, your. loyalty, and your strength are truly.

inspiring. Go Max, girl. Man, I should. just read your comment. I didn't even. have to do shameless self-promotion. because your comment was so kind and you. promoted everything that we have. But. this is this is definitely great. It's a. great gift. You should have the. conspiracy girl mug mug. Sorry for the. fellas. You should buy the conspiracy. girl girly mug for a lady in your life. that you care about because Valentine's. Day is around the corner obviously and. that's what you should be doing. So. order it now today. We need it sold out. Adriana New Jersey writes, "Erica plays. a role that she thinks men want. She did.

not have the same values as Charlie and. now is pedalling back. The comment in. the New York Times was, "Who needs a. man? Being a single mother is okay.". That is the opposite of Charlie's views. I can't justify that comment. To refer. to it as the least traumatizing thing. is, I think what bothers me. The least. traumatizing. Huh? It's traumatizing full stop. It's. tra It should traumatize you full stop. Joseph Brown writes, "Candice Owens,

uh, curious." Joel writes, "Geoengineering has become really fake. and gay. The sidewalks at my apartments. were covered in ice. It was like. styrofoam. I could walk uh to my work on. them, no problem. The ice literally had. a grip. H A RP must be drunk." I We. could speak a lot about geoengineering. and I believe that it would lead us to. NASA's doorsteps because I don't think. they've been trying to get to the moon. do think that during the Korean War, as. we learned throughout that chaos book,

that we were experimenting with spraying. uh spraying people, spraying products. and I think that that is the the true. reason that or uh the true reason that. NASA came together, mass poisoning. people. I I I believe that. Dagert Ar. Dagber Jonah writes, "Can you wish my. beautiful wife Cresenda Arj Arjona?" I. hope I'm saying it right. Is it Arjuna? Probably. Cresenda Aona a happy. birthday. Cresenda Aona, happy birthday.

I hope that's Spanish. If not, then this. is just weird. But thank you so much for. your support. You write that she's a big. fan of mine. Uh, God bless you. God. bless you. And Cresenda Arona, if it's. not Spanish, it is now. Seven Sheets. writes, "I didn't know that much about. CK before this, but could tell a man of. integrity. I feel like I mourned him. longer than EK or TPUSA did. I would. never believe the slop and will support. any voice that is seeking truth. Thank. you. God bless you." There's something. about this story that I think makes us. all feel like we're not safe. Like, if. they could do that to Charlie and he was.

playing the game and get away with it, what are we all doing? Like, we should. that we should just be revoling at all. hours of the day. I can't even listen to. anything Trump says anymore. I don't. care about anything at all. I'm just. like, "Shut up. I hate everybody. You're. all fake. You're You're all actors. Actually, that's how I feel. I look at. all of them as bad faith actors in the. political scene. And there none of it is. sincere. Comic Nick writes, "I said this last. week, and I need the world's opinion on. this, but why wouldn't Charlie Kirk tell.

Erica Kirk that they were going to kill. him unless he was scared that she was a. part of it of they?" Oh, unless he was. scared that she was a part of they. This. is all I think about when you see her. If Trumus is evil, well, to be. charitable, it could also be in a. scenario that is maybe more chivalous. that men don't want their wives to be. concerned about certain things because. there have certainly been things that, and again, this is a charitable read, but that my husband has not told me.

until after. I'm like, "What? Were you. just keeping that in forever?" Like a. soldier, we were dealing with this or. whatever, and he just dealt with it and. then told me after. So it it could have. been just giving you another angle on. that he could have not told her for the. that reason. I I'm less inclined to. believe that Andrew Kovat and Dan Flood. didn't tell her afterward that she had. to rely on his text messages. That that. wouldn't be the first thing in the. investigation that the feds would ask, hey, did Charlie have any fears? and.

that they wouldn't inform his next of. kin of those things, especially Dan. Flood as she's a chairman and CEO and uh. therefore presumably actually could just. take his text messages and read them if. she wanted to. I Yeah, that is less. believable than the fact that Charlie. would maybe not tell her the night. before. Cesaly writes, "I'm so sorry for. you to hear this, Candace. My cousin. passed a week after Charlie and it is. still so hard for me to say that he has. gone to talk about it. Can't imagine. that much joy in my voice again. I'm so. sorry for you. You loved and grieved. Charlie so much. I think I felt a bit.

like the employees like what am I doing. wrong here that I have to go away and. cry for a long time and I cried on air. which is I that's never happened before. and everyone else just kind of seemed. giddy. That's the only way I can. describe it. Like giddy when that person. said they were joyous and giddy at. Charlie's favorite restaurant which I. chose not to name. That was how I felt. listening to the call and I'm just going. guys this is less than two weeks after. um that motion that emotion shouldn't be.

possible shouldn't be possible actually. in my view. Maria Rits uh hey Jolly Valley girl oh. sorry pardon her Jolly Valley girl tone. excited to be discussing business. numbers and goals is super cringe and. weird this is beyond grieving. differently behavior we all have common. human instinct to sense these things. Love you, Candace from Vegas. And that I. agree with you that they're trying to. pervert like there is no commonality. They're kind of giving us the MoMA. The.

MoMA is modern art where you you go to. the MoMA museum and there's a toilet. and it has scribbles all over it. It has. graffiti on it and they're like, "This. is art. Art is in the eye of the. beholder." It's like, "That's not art. Doesn't matter how many times you say. it. That's not art. There is such a. thing as objective beauty. And that. ain't it, my friend. to toilet and. you're just trying to see if you can get. me there. It feels like we're in the ma. and they're going, "Everybody grieavves. differently." Some people grief with. happiness and laughter because it feels.

good because it comes in waves and it's. like, "Nope, I don't think so." I understand even. working to get through things. I'm a. person that has to work to get through. things. But this is not that. event even for that to to have to work. through something, become a workaholic. because you have to deal with the. emotion of watching somebody that you. know and purport to love be publicly. assassinated. You have to deal with.

that. And I'm going to say that as a. rule, it takes longer than less than two weeks. to get out of bed to do the thing. I. don't know. I that's that would be my. opinion. But what do I know? What do I. know? Jess Happy writes, "And to think. that all I thought about on September. 10th was how empty and terrified Erica. must feel and how sad I was for those. babies. How ironic crisis can keep. going, Candace." That's why I also think. it was important to share his call.

because we all were there thinking that. For those of us who did not immediately. find her to be suspicious in any way, we. assumed that that's what she was going. through. And now that assumption has. been removed and that's something that. is a thing that we all now must digest. And like I said, there's a lot more. that's coming out because I think a lot. of these employees are realizing. it was a cult and there I mean there's. almost like a psychological operation.

being run on them. It's like if you need. to use your pay time off, we'd. understand. But. we're the wife is full steam ahead. But. if you need to take that time off, you've earned that time off. You need to. take that off to grieve someone who's. like not your husband. That's fine. That feels tricky. That feels very. tricky. Anyway, you guys, we will see. you tomorrow.