EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: What He Saw On Fort Huachuca The Day Before Charlie Died. | Candace Ep 282
Okay, everyone. Happy Thursday. I have. to tell you that I was laughing so much. yesterday because I received a flood of. emails from law enforcement officers, military guys that were just like, "No. way. Absolutely not. That's where I draw. the line. The bomb dogs missed the gun.". Apparently, for people who work with. bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to. their intelligence than the man of steel. neck. Like, it was just a bridge too. far. This is where they are drawing the. line in terms of fed slop.
Anyway, we have another unbelievable. episode for you guys here today. I. thought long and hard about whether to. bring on the eyewitness from Fort. Huachuca. And I think when we speak to. him today and he gives you his. testimony, you will, of course, understand why. I am always honored to. have any person that serves in our. military, especially honored to have him. given all that he has lived through. Despite the firestorm that I know that. both he and I are about to endure.
Welcome back to Candace. [Applause]. [Music]. Okay, so a couple of things before we. get into that interview. I, at the top. of the show, first want to tell you. about this interesting question that I. received yesterday from one of our. viewers over on X that I wanted to.
address. He asked me specifically if I. saw. black plastic fragmentation. over the floor of Charlie's SUV. I was immediately struck by this. question because I am not kidding when I. tell you that the very first thing that. I noticed when I went through those. photos of Charlie's SUV, I said to my. team that it looked like there were. shards of glass, like tempered glass. that you might see if you drop or break.
an iPhone. It was very distinct to me in. the picture from the blood that is all. over the seats and all over the floor. I was like, "Oh, maybe like someone. broke a window or something." And then I. sort of put it out of my mind. And. particularly, I noticed a lot of it. spread across that back back seat rear. floor. So, I'm going to show you that, just a couple of photos of that close up. so that you can see it, what that looks like because yeah, it. was just kind of a compelling thing that. he noticed, something that I noticed, and you can see. it was unusual. I think in this person's.
mind, they. the line that they were going down, I. guess the line of questioning that they. were going down in their own mind was is. this evidence that something broke on. Charlie? Could something have been. rigged? And I want to say that we can't. necessarily extrapolate that from what. we're looking at. It could be a thousand. other things. Somebody could have. actually broken a phone in there. Somebody could have had something in. there. It could be broken hard candy. I. mean, there's a lot going on. And yeah, I just but I did want to address that. because it was interesting that.
he noted it and asked if if we saw. little black bits and we I I do. That is. visually what I see. I am hesitant, by the way, to put up the. rest of the photos. Kind of still going. through that. I want to be slow on that. because. obviously, I don't want the federal. officers, the good guys that are in. there who have assisted in this to be. rumbled, right? I don't want people. cash to go on a hunt and figure out who. gave us what and people to start getting. fired. We need to have the white knights. in government. So, I just need some time.
to think about that. And yeah. Anyways, what we can do, however, and. what we're starting to formulate now are. just addressing these data points, right? These these mysterious. circumstances, these things that don't. necessarily make sense. What do we. actually know about that day? And what's. really interesting for me is when I. review these data points, I can't fathom. how there are people out there right now. trying to convince you that there is. overwhelming evidence that Tyler. Robinson committed this crime. There's. actually no There's no evidence outside.
of these shady messages that are not. even timestamped. He We don't have a confession from him. We have nothing. Okay? So, these are. just some some data points for you to to. remember as we go through this. The surgeon never confirmed or even. suggested that Charlie was shot with a. .30-06 or that Charlie had a steel neck. that stopped that bullet. Rather, he. suggested throughout the course of a. conversation that maybe a frangible. bullet was used.
The lone confirmed eyewitness that we. have that is confirmed to the alleged. shooter on Lozi Center rooftop before. the sound goes off, the sound of a shot. rings out, has not been contacted by the. lawyers or the investigators on either. side of this trial, depending trial. We. are now in the phase where investigators. are supposed to go out and be collecting. more evidence pending. the May probable cause hearing. He still. has not been contacted. Why is that.
crucial? Because this individual is an. instructor at a gun range. He claims the. weapon that he saw looked more like a. .223. Quote, "Something shorter than the one. that they found.". The person that he observed was wearing. what seemed to him to be black tactical. gear plus a face mask, and he describes. that person as looking like a like a. professional. The bomb dogs. were unable to locate the weapon in the. field where it was eventually discovered. despite the fact that they had crawled.
over that area. They just weren't on. their game that day. That This is now my. favorite part of the story. It's just a. little I just didn't expect the reaction. to be what it was. It's I just love the. people that are like, "No. Absolu- This. is No. We are done with the fed slop.". Instead, what happened was federal. agents directed local officers to the. weapon. Lucky feds. Lucky feds. The. canines were not provided with the scent. of the weapon once it was discovered. So, they did not then take that weapon. and then have the dogs trace it back to.
the top of Lozi. That did not happen. Terrell Farnsworth, still major question. marks. He raced to remove the camera. that was directly behind Charlie's head. I want to tell you, by the way, I'm. reading myself into this, so not a data. point, but in my mind, when I imagine. why he might have done that, I think. it's because they were going to go with. this story that a .30-06 hit Charlie. Kirk. And what debunked that, obviously, would be seeing that it didn't it didn't. go through. There was no like there was.
no evidence of what should have been a. tremendous amount of damage done to his. neck. I also want to say here because. I've heard that various people like. Terrell are getting death threats. Obviously, if you're watching this show, we are investigating what happened with. Charlie Kirk. I have been clear of it. I. do believe that there are some people. that are engaged in a cover-up. I am. never giving anybody the permission to, you know, go be a bandit and go outside. and and take the law into your own. hands. That's not what we should ever be. doing and engaging in. Um. Next data point that we have, federal.
agents prevented the surgeon from. returning to his operating room. I told. you that was something that startled him. and he placed a call. presumably to DC. to make them move because he wanted. obviously the team to get back in there. to clean it to make sure that Charlie. could get cleaned up before Erica came. in. Federal agents removed the hospital. surveillance footage. They're on a. manhunt. And for some reason, that. seemed like something that they should. do. That strikes me as tremendously odd. We have that the vehicle in which.
Charlie was transported to Timpanogos or. Timpanogos Hospital. was not impounded by law enforcement. It's very odd. And there were multiple sets of prints. on the weapon that was found, something. that I did not share with you, but I did. know this for some time. And I can confirm this to you because. that's one of their things. They got the. prints of Tyler Robinson on this gun. There were multiple sets of prints that. were on the gun that was recovered. thanks to the instincts of the feds and.
not the noses of the dogs. And finally, and I think this is a big thing, the. footage of Tyler Robinson turning. himself in is apparently missing. And I. have told you guys, and again, I'm. reading myself into this, that in my investigation, I found that. their entire story about how the parents. turned him in and did the right thing is. crap. It is BS. That's not what. happened. They were told either, you. know, these doors are going to get. broken down or you're going to you're. going to come in peacefully. And Tyler.
chose the latter. I also was told by. police officers that were there when he. he. came into the police that they were they. were told not to look at him. They were. told to avoid cameras. Very strange. things that happened when he did. eventually come in. And we won't know. how strange because apparently. the footage is missing according to. local Utah news that they. They didn't say a FOIA. There's another. term. What was it? Gamma requested for. that footage and were basically told,
"Well, no. There's been an expiration on. that footage and we don't have it. So, maybe they just mean. they already handed it over to. investigators. I don't know. But. we will wait and see. That's a lot that. is going on. I want to pivot now because our. instincts, which they keep mocking us. over, I think are on the money. We're going to. talk now about Christianity. Christianity. I'm putting that in. quotation marks because it has been on. this podcast a recurring theme, right? I.
keep sensing. A, that these pastors are dangerous, right? I've covered extensively how even. just amongst the Calvary Chapel, in. particular, there's just way too much of a habit of. establishing former pedophiles and drug. traffickers as lead pastors of churches. Okay? I'm not saying that people can't. find God. I'm just saying that my. preference would be that they maybe not. be provided with access to children,
right? If if you committed a crime. against child. Uh. this is a preference that I guess is not. or perhaps is in conflict with the. beliefs and the preferences of Rob McCoy. who makes my skin crawl. We showed you. uh that interview that he did with. somebody who apparently went on a. rampage. He actually went to prison for. it and he was just sort of laundering. his reputation and then gave him access. again uh to children. I feel like that. is very wrong. I have also on the show been speaking a. lot about these quote-unquote Christian.
influencers. Something's not right. A. lot of women who seem to know their. Bibles for almost the implicit and. explicit aim of socially engineering the. population, right? Telling you, "Oh, it's right here in the Bible." Same with. the pastors. "God doesn't want you to. follow Tucker Carlson on Instagram. Josh. Hammer is amazing. Candace is possessed. by a demon. You don't want to be. possessed by a demon, so unfollow Tucker. Carlson and unfollow Candace. And I. promise I there is no other motivations.
Candace is just crazy and you should. listen to me.". Similarly, there are so many. conservative media companies who are run. by former military intelligence. People. that leave naval intelligence, people. that leave the Mossad. Uh suddenly their. aim is to speak about Judeo-Christian. values. Uh. you know, they find God after they they. leave the military. I'm not saying that. that's impossible. I'm just saying that. this is something that we have discussed. a lot on this podcast. I have been. suggesting to you all. that faith has been infiltrated by the. military and people laughed. They. laughed. Well, you guys didn't laugh,
but like, "Oh, what do you mean by. that?". Well, you guys pull up a chair because. it's about to get even more interesting. Fort Huachuca, as many of you in the. military have informed me, is actually. an intelligence base. Now, for those of. you who are ignorant like me regarding. the structure of the military, this is. an important distinction to make in your. mind because when we think about. military bases, at least me, maybe maybe. you can uh. you have the same mindset. I tend to. think about where they're scrambling off.
the planes off of an air base if there's. an attack, right? Oh, quickly jump into. jump into your planes and get into the. air or maybe get into the sea. It just. requires an immediate response, but that. is not what Fort Huachuca in Arizona is, okay? It is a hub for intelligence. training. Civilians can be turned into. intelligence assets on this base. They. can take courses to join the. intelligence community, okay? Just. giving you one example of an email that.
I got, quote, "Just FYI, Fort Huachuca. is where soldiers go for their MIT. courses. That is Army military. intelligence. Once a soldier has. finished basic training, they go here. for their advanced training for their. actual job in Army military. intelligence." End quote. Okay. Now, among the many emails that I received. regarding what sort of intelligence. courses take place, I was absolutely. floored when a person who grew up and. lives just outside of the base in.
uh in Sierra Vista. told me something. I'm going to recount. the story to you. And I'm going to paraphrase a little bit. of this so that I protect their. identity. Basically, their story begins. in May of 2013. They are two recently. baptized Christians. Like I said, they. grew up in this area, Sierra Vista, and. they decided they were going to pour. their savings into starting a gym. Now, of course, because it's a gym. that's located off base, they had a lot. of clientele who happened to be. associated with the base. And one such client uh was a woman that.
they met, a couple that they met that. were on fire for the Lord, right? That. couple. uh. made a sizable investment in their gym. and became quote-unquote founding. members, okay? So, the gym owners. were drawn to this couple because they. were so bold in their faith. They were. like, "I I loved the bold proclamation. of their faith and we thought this is. great. This this is going to work." They. accept money from them. So, you can imagine that they were then.
completely surprised and shocked when. this couple over time effectively staged. something akin to a hostile takeover of. their company. Undermining them while pretending to be. their friends, going behind their backs, propositioning other gym members. I'm. going to be clear here. This is. obviously allegedly. Uh. I'm going to say allegedly allegedly. allegedly here. The couple almost lost everything in the. process and they had to start all over. again. Now, what was once the fastest. growing gym in Sierra Vista, suddenly.
uh they were forced to relocate and. downsize their company entirely. So, now. it's 2015. They are in their new smaller. location of a gym and I'm going to read. this next portion of the email that I. received verbatim. Again, allegedly allegedly allegedly. because he names an individual an. individual who I do not know. I've never. heard of this individual, but I feel it is relevant because I'd. like to learn more. The email continues, quote, "We were.
struggling, sometimes barely making. rent, but still serving the community. including military students who came. through for 4 to 6-month training. courses." Okay? I'm going to stress that. again. You've got all these students. that are coming in and their training is. lasting between 4 to 6 months, so. they're signing up for this gym. Back into the quotation. Um one morning, I noticed a female. military military member lingering after. class. She was visibly distressed, so I. kept the gym open longer than usual to. give her space to talk. We ended up. conversing for about 45 minutes and what.
she shared with me has stuck with me. ever since. She said she, quote, "could not take it. anymore.". When I asked for details, she explained. that her stress was coming from a class. that she was taking on Fort Huachuca. taught by none other than Bruce Bevins. My ears perked up when I heard his name. as I immediately remembered the incident. with his wife. This young woman described Bruce as, quote, "the most evil man that she had. ever met." She then revealed something.
that I wasn't expecting at all. The. class's objective was to teach military. personnel to infiltrate Christian groups. and organizations through covert. psychological operations. The training focused specifically on. deceiving Christians. At the time, I didn't fully connect the. dots. Our gym was and still is an openly. Christian faith-based organization, but. looking back now, I have to wonder if. the infiltration and the destruction of. our gym was actually a training exercise. or field assignment. I also wonder if. the distressed young soldier was sent to.
our gym on assignment from Bruce, but. couldn't follow through with her. objectives and instead chose to confide. in me. There were other students who will. corroborate this type of training. Two. military students, both named blank and. blank. I'm redacting that. Passed. through our gym during this same period. They shared similar stories, but seemed. much more advanced in their training. On. one occasion after I asked what was so. funny in the back of my class, they. privately shared that they had just. returned from an overnight field. training mission with very little sleep.
Their objective had been to deceive. civilians in Tucson about an hour north. of us. They practiced at local bars and. public venues on unsuspecting people, telling lies, remembering those lies, and maintaining their false personas. without quote-unquote breaking. character. They laughed about their conquests while. working out at our gym. Now, I got the. impression that their deception. sometimes extended to sexual encounters. with their targets. At the time, I found. this disturbing, but I did not know what. to make of it. Now, 12 years later and. watching the situation unfold with. Charlie Kirk and learning that some of. his most trusted people may have been.
trained operatives who infiltrated. Turning Point USA, these memories. suddenly seem significant. You mentioned. previously that there was a strange. military background connection among. some of the people involved. I am now. wondering if instructors like Bruce. Bevins trained some of these individuals. before they infiltrated Christian. organizations like Turning Point USA.". End quote. Now, I obviously cannot confirm just. yet. I'm sure after this show, we're. going to get a bunch of emails. The. allegations against Bruce. Again, I have. never heard of this individual. But what.
I can say to you is on a gutteral level, I feel this is accurate. I do. It is what I have noticed. It's what. I've been pointing to you all year. Many. of these pastors are behaving like. operatives and many of these Christian. influencers are behaving like operatives. and I keep telling you that all roads, including the Egyptian. here Israeli uh planes. lead to the front door of Turning Point. USA Faith. I kept saying there's something with.
faith suddenly infiltrated and something. happened to this organization. And I. feel that this email is a big piece of. the puzzle. Okay? So, if you played a part in these. exercises on Fort Huachuca base where. you were learning instructions about how. to be a good little Christian to. infiltrate and potentially to overthrow. Christian organization and maybe you're. having some second thoughts about your. soul and you'd like to speak to me about. it off record, please email. moretips@candaceowens.com.
And I would also like you all to. remember. that. we suddenly have been experiencing. wall-to-wall. panic. ever since we mentioned Fort Huachuca. You saw this. It's crazy. I mean, the. articles right now are unhinged. They. are they are are just doing fiction. The. panic button was pressed when we. mentioned Fort Huachuca and the alleged. meeting that happened on the morning of. September 9th. So, we're going to get. into that.
And by the way, for those of you that. thought that this person was making it. up, he was uh apparently not familiar. with metadata. I don't think he was. And. he had not sent me the photos that he. took that morning on the base. So, he. tells the story I sat down, sat down, got coffee. Well, because he thought he. was going to write, and I'm laughing. here, going to like write the wrong of. his past, he was sort of documenting. himself while he was on the base. So, he. sent sends me over all this stuff and I. literally was able to confirm with the. metadata.
where he was, exactly what time it was, and see the background, obviously. And. it's just a fact, okay? It's just a fact. that this this happened. He was there. I. was also able to establish it because. like now it's just like beyond a. reasonable doubt. Now, when we get back. after this brief break from our. sponsors, we are going to bring on, and. this is his new name, Mitch. I I've told you about who he believes he. stumbled upon in that meeting, and I. think that we need to focus on that, and. you may learn more. I know I certainly.
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a broader question. Are all of our lives. a bit like The Truman Show? Do we have essentially a cast of. characters who are performing and. pretending, and this is what kind of. made everybody go crazy after the. Turning Point USA event where Tucker. asked the question, "Where does this. guy's money come from?" I mean, obviously, Bari Weiss. is one of these actors. This is a. clearly an act. You obviously are not. intelligent. You obviously are not some. journalist that worked their way up and.
broke some important stories. You are. obviously an intelligence op. An not so intelligent op. Like, are all. are we living in The Truman Show? Are we. all going to work thinking that we can. climb a ladder when in reality these. people are just selected and given. certain. they're supposed to be certain. characters. You're supposed to pretend. and like you're a the head of a tech. company, and you're supposed to be super. weird and quirky. I'm going to cast you. into that role. And then we're going to call you a. genius, and you're supposed to pretend.
that you're this super financial guru. like a Jeffrey Epstein, and we're going. to put you. at the head of a finance company. You. feel you have no background in this. That's kind of the theme that I'm. seeing, anyways. I don't want to waste. too much more time because I do want to. bring on Mitch, who apparently has what. I would describe as I don't know if it's. the best or the worst luck ever in life, stumbling upon the feds when they're. maybe up to no good. Mitch, welcome to.
my podcast. It's so great to have you. here. It is wonderful to be here, Candace. How. are you doing? I'm doing very well. I I obviously you. know the story of how I instantly got. the email from one of your friends that. just said, "You should call Mitch.". After I prayed and said, "I'm missing a. piece of this. Please, God, give me a. piece of this story." And the first. email I see when I get back from church. on a day of holy obligation is this. email. And so, Mitch, my audience is up. to date on what happened to you when you.
were 20 years old, and I'm wondering if. you can just sort of briefly recap in. case I got some things wrong. Oh, wow. Briefly recap 35 years. Sure. Um. Yeah, we have we were part of a mission. going down to um. down to the border of JTF6, assigned. from 10th Mountain. Um. Previously, there'd been a Marine Corps. uh unit there. Um Apparently, they had an incident. We.
had to replace them. Uh and they wanted a less. less kinetic unit to um. be involved. So, we went down there in a matter of a few. days, you know, and. I was the youngest guy on the team, and. for the first few days, I. I got assigned to um. have to. you know, do the hard work of putting in. the sensors and follow one of the border. patrol who was on a. uh he was on a horseback. Got to learn a.
little bit about um picking up signs in. the desert, stuff like that, while we. were placing these sensors down. Um It took a few days. Um. I think we put in like 80 sensors or so. along the border, and. uh we were getting some They thought it. was some glitch signals coming back. Um. Being that I'd just gone through the. course, I had the most updated. information, and. um. what we realized is they weren't they. weren't glitch signals.
that these people were being sent out. for. Um. It was. subterranean. And once. when I got pulled back uh to the JTF6. headquarters, they were in discussions of of trying to. remove the army. in case. your viewers don't understand, when units get put together like this, especially this mission,
um. there's a lot of contention even to this. day between the army and uh border. patrol and who gets to take credit and. who gets to stay, who gets to go. And. back then, they. um. Border Patrol, I I think they just. wanted us. out of their hair. Um. So, they were having some sort of a big. meeting. Um. And a big do not disturb meeting. And um. I got assigned to the skeleton crew to.
sit back on the SMS uh. excuse me, the receiver. Um. And I was looking at the data while. the skeleton crew of the. border patrol was left there with me as. well. And he was giving me a bad time about. the army equipment and how they were. being sent out for. for no reason. He give give me a bad time about it. So, we were looking at the data, and we.
started discussing things, and and I. brought up the fact that, you know, you know, I asked if there was any. subways or something like that around. Between the two of us, the light bulb. went on that um. yeah, it was a. yeah, it was an underground tunnel. And within minutes, we could triangulate. the. um. triangulate the signals and. be able to pinpoint the location. And. that's the information I got to hand. off. So, no, I didn't, you know, like go on.
the raid itself. Um. handing that information off was was the. probable cause they needed. to be able to go. get a warrant, go to the location, um. and also communicate with the. Mexican authorities on the other side to. uh perform a raid and uh. yeah, that's what that's what happened. Now. >> Um. you're thinking amazing we have found. the biggest cartel tunnel.
uh. there there had never been one bigger. previously discovered I I presume maybe. there had been I'm and there I don't. know I'm just I'm going to become a hero. maybe you're thinking this is going to. be great and the exact opposite thing is. true and it's because they eventually. find pictures of well uh was it American. Lieutenant Colonel who who exactly sorry. you told I know you told me this was it. a colonel? Um. one of the commanders that was um.
with the border patrol um was actually. posed with a photo um. that was found on the Mexican side. um after the tunnel apparently had been. built um along with other Mexican. military and and US military. so there had been some collaboration uh. prior to us getting there there had been. some a lot of suspicion that. uh the federal government knew that 80%. I think it was 60 to 80% of the cocaine.
was coming through the Douglas Arizona. area um that's basically region six or. that's why they called it JTF6. Um. so they knew all the cocaine's coming. through this one area um but the local. authorities back then you know came up. with shrugs like you know. oh we just don't see where it's coming. from so they suspected there was some. uh there was some you know compromise of. of officials down there.
Um. so yeah, we. we went to work and it didn't take us. long to pinpoint this. um. so when they recovered that data and. they recovered the photos obviously um. they had some of the top names of of who. was helping out on the US side to. help build the tunnel and also keep it. functioning for at least six months uh. judging by the data on the photo. So. I was going to ask you your attachment.
to I'm trying to figure out why you're. going to then go back to Fort Huachuca. is that where you were initially. trained? Um yeah, I was. That's Fort Huachuca so you were. initially trained at Fort Huachuca but. then ends up happening is they put you. you basically you're not allowed to talk. you you just get gagged for is it 25. years the gag order lasted while they. destroyed every layer of your life fed. your name to the cartels you've been on. the run you've had to change your name. your family is now in debt you've been. fighting lawsuits trying to get um the.
government to. I guess defend you against the cartel. gangs and clearly they're angry because. you stepped on their toes it looks like. I think that's a fair depiction of what. happened here which we are learning more. and more how corrupt and our I think the. CIA was created to traffic to be clear. that's that's my opinion there. but you. they effectively destroyed your life and. gagged you in in the process is that a. fair assessment of what happens next?
Yeah, it is. Um. I could probably go into some detail. that while we were down there. you know I got to got the honor of. incinerating all the. uh. uh it's about a ton of cocaine it was. and bunch of guns bunch of money. um. and then right afterward we went right. back to work and I ended up getting. approached with a friend at uh Naco. Arizona. um not a friend but another border.
patrol agent and if it wasn't for him I. was too stupid I didn't understand. why this person was coming up or why. they had personal information on me I. had. I was a young kid um. it was the border patrol agent that. caught what it was about and um. yeah, thank god. uh he he knew what to do. um. took me back to base and they thought it. was. you know something I did. uh to give away my identity. Uh so I was on base for.
uh. it was the next day that I got brought. into a briefing and by that time. um the photos from the Mexican side had. made their way to the American side and. and they were able to put together how. my information got got fed. um. to the other side. As far as. cartels and stuff like that I you know. uh it's just plain corruption at this. point it's it's. and it's thick and yeah, they have.
followed me. Um there's been. I've had people come through my windows. um. and it's not like I know these are. it's like fantastical stories. we got the court documents we got the we. got the court cases um You've sent them. to me. >> It's not just that we have those it's. that. uh the work that was done to even try to. bury those afterward. um. is pretty substantial and yeah, I've got. 20 years of this and you think.
you know one would think that somebody. in the federal government would care. um. or any part of our government would. care. Uh the more I've gone up the chain to. try and uh. you know get more of these records as. well as get answers. uh to this saga. um. it just seems like I step on more and. more toes and eventually that's what led. me to going down to Fort Huachuca was.
just to get the original records and. find out. you know. why wasn't the FBI updated as what my. status was and. you know why is this been allowed to um. yeah, basically use our own laws against. me to attack my life um. I feel I wanted answers. I look like I I when I hear the story it. makes me it makes me so angry cuz it's. just too many people that are serving. our country only to figure out that our. country is serving some other you know. the interests of oligarchs truly and I.
think we're kind of all coming to that. moment right now and recognizing that it. hasn't been left or right it has been. them the unique gang of oligarchs and. criminals that are running every aspect. of our lives and they would gladly have. you die for them and could they they. couldn't care less. I want to pivot now. so you you're. they put you there's this gag order or. you know. non-disclosure agreement and it is 25. long years. and it happened to ex 35 pardon me 35.
years you're told yeah, you can suffer. the cartels can chase you change your. name but you keep your mouth shut about. it. And finally in May. this of this year. this this uh. it expires right this this gag order. expires and you say to yourself I am. going to go down to that base where I. was trained I'm going to go down to Fort. Huachuca. book myself into a hotel I'm going to go. to the criminal division investigative. division I'm going to get that original. paperwork and get some answers to why my.
I feel that my life has been effectively. ruined for me having done what I was. ordered to do by the government. So you get to the base and I want you to. address this because there were so many. people who were like there's no way. could have gotten onto the base. obviously you sent me your military. cards and I think we can show a picture. of that. You get onto the base and I want you to. walk us through what time and I did show. a timeline but about you know you don't. have to be perfect here we already. showed a timeline but like you get to. the base and just kind of what's your.
general mood and this is on September. 8th the evening of September 8th at the. Candlewood Inn and Suites which you have. given me all the documentation for. Okay. Yeah, um. getting into Tucson there was a little. bit of a issue getting the rental car. and stuff so that took a little while a. little bit of a delay but. we made reservations ahead of time for. me to be there. and um. yeah, I get down to the base for those. that think that people can't get on base.
no typically you can as long as you have. your. your ID your insurance and you have a. purpose for being there. I certainly did. that's why they have them. >> that documentation as he's speaking. I'm. sorry go ahead. Um. so yeah, we made reservations and. I got to the hotel I had uh. it was sort of hard to find but once I. found it I sort of recognized it cuz it. was uh. that was actually the barracks that I. had when I was there in in AIT training.
but they converted it so uh yeah, that. was pretty cool all of a sudden I'm. staying in the same barracks. Um. a really nice place by the way wonderful. beds. um. but yeah, I checked in and as I'm doing. that um. you can tell that there's regular. uh military people. um. uh young kids that are there. um. probably just checking into post stuff. like that.
Uh there were a couple people that that. stood out and they're a little bit older. and and um. as I'm checking in. uh one guy that was sitting on the couch. he just had a sheen to him uh. looked like he had a professional. military sheen to him if I had to guess. um you know being a special forces guy. I would have guessed that he's sp-. ex-special forces probably doing you. know something down there probably.
contract. uh he was definitely waiting on. something and. Age about just so we can get a. description age? You know I'd say. 30. 33 to 40. about there. Give or take. Um Yeah, I. wasn't there to check out people. Um or check ID cards. Um. I just happened to know them and. veterans, especially SF guys, when you. notice somebody like that.
I almost had the impression so much so. that I was going to go up and ask him. what group he was with and say hi and. and thank him for his service. I didn't. really get that chance. So, as I'm. checking in and then I go to my room and. then come back out. um he was joined. and um. joined by a female that you can you can. definitely tell when um. how do you put it? When people are. well off. and um. they're dressing down.
Um. she was definitely dressing down. And. it was um. very well kept. Uh the one thing I noticed about the. woman that really stuck out to me was. was her eyes and um. uh I have an ex that um. has caused me a lot of problems. So, uh when I see someone with with uh. striking blue eyes like that uh they. stick out and um.
I even I was on the phone. uh. with my. uh with my wife here and and. I even told her about it. I said, "Oh, jeez, uh somebody has those kind of. eyes.". Um. it creeped me out a little bit, you. know. And had nothing to do with that person. Uh just. you know, life is what it is. But, as I was checking in, they um. I was going to go back and actually talk. to that person, the the guy, and um.
yeah, they. between me at the front desk and then. going back to my room one time and then. coming back out. I was going to go to. dinner. Um. yeah, they'd gotten into uh. there was a vehicle parked out front, uh. big green truck. G- It looked like a. real shiny GSA type. Um. and yeah, they were getting into that. vehicle and and driving off. And that.
night I went to dinner at some um. a little bit crazy that people in Sierra. Vista, they can probably verify there. was a. Mexican uh Mexican sushi. place in Sierra Vista. So, I got dinner and and um. it was a pretty good place, actually. Um. and then I came back. And went to sleep that night. Got up early the next morning, wanted to. see the sunrise. Uh reminisce about.
you know. um yeah, there we go. Just reminisce about having been there a. long time ago. Um. And uh even stopped to talk to some of. the police that tried to give me. directions to. to CID, but the buildings there are are. uh. they're sort of old World War II and. they're also built on top of the. foundations of um. like almost Alamo era uh rocks and stuff. and. some of them aren't really well marked.
So. um. his directions sort of led me off on a. wild goose chase. Evan, now interject to you while you're. having a sip of water that this is when. you accidentally take a video and it's. 18 minutes long while this guy's giving. you directions, which you've also you've. sent everything over. So, there's no. question you were here and everything. happened because. you tried to document this thinking you. were going to get some justice from the. past and and I I will let you continue. telling the story. Yeah, I was there to get help. Um.
and uh. I was really figuring some people would. have uh. you know, have some answers for me. Um. I couldn't find CID, but as I'm. wandering around and I finally decided. you know, I need to get some coffee and. wake up, maybe have a little breakfast. Um. I noticed that there's some signs there. that say JTF and uh. and JTF headquarters. I went in a couple of the buildings,
there was nobody there yet. So, I. continued on. I went and got coffee, ran. into some 10th Mountain people there. Um they said they were there for JTF. Um. you know, we we sort of talked. I bought. them coffee, I think, for their service. Uh they sort of. I asked where there would be a. headquarters that I could go to to to. speak to someone. They tried to explain it to me like um. I forget, they gave me a building name. Uh and I don't necessarily want to we. don't want to disclose that kind of.
stuff, but. uh I went right back to the front gate. and as I came in, I as they scanned me. in with my ID card um. yeah, I asked the gate guard there where. you know, where would this building be. and how would I get there? Uh he gave me detailed instructions on. how to get there, how to wind around to. get to that building and. so, I did and um. it was obviously a a temporary setup for. this new command down there.
Um. There was no gate guard. There was uh I. I think they did have some um. uh barbed wire around the the field and. the and the building. Which made me hesitate for a second, but. there was a it was a parking lot. So, um. I I just went in and parked. Um. I was on the phone with my missus here. and. um told her, you know, uh "We'll see how. it goes. We'll see what they say here. and I'll uh I'll call you in a few.".
Um. I ended up not being able to call her. back for about 7 hours. Um. and you can been in the military for a. while, you. you notice when there's a lot of. high-ranking people around. And you. notice um when there's a little bit of a. buzz. And I. I walked in there. I didn't know if it if this was just a. new type of army. uh that I haven't seen for a while. Um but, I walked up to the front desk. I.
sort of told them what I wanted. I. initially talked to one captain for. about 5 minutes um and then he stepped. back out. He was going to go get. someone. I stood there at the front and. as I did um. the guy that I thought was next SF guy. um. he had walked out from uh from wherever. it was. And he was sort of walking out. to the to the front doors and he stood. there for a while waiting. And then uh three more people came came.
around, civilian dressed, and one. yeah, he looked like a congressman. Uh. had the pin, had the flag. Uh you know, congressman suit. Um. and there were a couple of people next. to him and obviously they were trying to. talk to him and. uh. they were sort of palling around. Um. but, it was also sort of serious and um. uh some of the military. lieutenant colonels there and the and.
the unit sergeant major escorted them. out. Um they got into one of the GSAs um. For anybody in the military that knows. about GSA, it it's the. they own everything in the government. Could you sorry, for those of us who. don't know about this GSA just to to. break it down for us. I'm sorry to be so. ignorant. It's What does that stand for? No. Uh. what was it? Government Services. uh Administration or Okay. I forget what. it is. No worries.
>> Um. what they. they basically maintain all the property. for the U- for the federal government. Okay. >> Um. So. if you're in the military or if you're. in federal government and you need a. vehicle. uh. basically you you go to one of the GSA. places and it's like renting a vehicle. at at Enterprise or something, but you. have orders attached to it. Um.
Some of those vehicles there, they're. reserved uh at any GSA where they have. VIPs that come in. Uh. for those in the know, they they keep a. reserved um. set of vehicles and. they're extra shiny. They're they're. like new off the lot. Um. You know, their tires aren't worn very. well. So. uh they all got into one of those. vehicles and they they left. The. sergeant major came back in. Him and I. was I was teasing him about his tabs and.
how he didn't have his long tab and. uh I think he had a ranger tab and. airborne. Uh no, he didn't have. airborne, he had aerosol. Anyway, uh. I was teasing him about some of that. Um was supposed to go back and talk to. him. I was finishing signing in when um. yeah, a couple more captains came around. the corners and they escorted me way. out. Um they wanted to take me out of the. building. I thought I was getting. arrested and I didn't know what I'd done. wrong. Uh.
yeah, I'd give my name, uh the missions. I'd been attached to. Um. I give them the purpose why I was there. Uh. so, and I was very polite about it. I. was trying to be discreet as possible. And um. I had no idea what I was walking into. Obviously the. you know, when congressmen are around, there's something special going on. Uh but, yeah, they escorted me out.
across the parking lot to the park. benches there and and uh. me, one of the captains there, his name. was Captain Neff. Um, nice guy. Um. Yeah, and I I started telling him my. story, what I'm telling you, and and. what I was there for. Yes, that's the guy. Um, real decent. gentleman. Um. And as we sat there, the other captain. went in, uh, was going to get the. sergeant major, and.
uh, I don't know what exactly what happened, but uh, before long there there was. bunch of cruisers pulling up, there were. police officers from different levels of. the government. Um, I couldn't tell you all the. different types of of um, law enforcement that were there, uh, surrounding me. and sort of putting up a wall between me. and and the front door. Um, I did catch. that there was yet another. I don't know if it was the same GSA. vehicle returning.
or a different one, but that did pull up. to the building. Uh, I see who got in. it. And um. it ended up sort of a big deal. They. kept interrogating me, uh, trying to. gaslight me, ask me if I what I was. there for. Like I was some sort of a spy. Um. I. Yeah, and then they mentioned a bomb. threat. They wanted to check my vehicle. Uh, mentioned that because I was in. special forces,
uh, obviously I I must be some sort of a. bomb threat. And for me I I just figured. uh, this had to be some sort of a false. flagging that uh, that I've encountered. from before. Um. uh, some sort of residual effect from. that. So, you're just thinking, you know, this. has got something to do. This has been. 35 years running. The government's. corrupt. It's all about me fighting this. cartel tunnel, and this is just going to. be the story of my life never getting. any justice. That's what's going through. your mind.
Uh, at this point, yeah, people, you. know, people in the government start. pointing guns at me. My house been. squatted and stuff like that. I. I just roll my eyes. Um, I literally. Sorry. I was just throwing my car keys. I don't. know they wanted my car keys. I. I chucked it over. I was like, "Yeah, if. you don't mind parking it closer cuz my. bones are getting old and it hurts. Uh, I don't want to walk that far. Um So sad. So, Captain Neff was really. nice, and um. I asked him what this was about, and he.
he tried to shrug it off and say he. didn't know. There was another lady that. seemed to be. uh, conducting the. what this overreaction was. Um. And she was definitely, you know, she. was in plain clothes, undercover, uh, big sunglasses, Hispanic woman. Um. I, you know, if I had to guess, probably. Secret Service or something like that. Uh, she didn't want to approach me. directly. She was she was directing how.
other people would approach me and ask. me questions, get my documents, stuff. like that. Uh, eventually they said, "Okay, we're. going to take you to another location.". They took me to uh, they finally showed. me where the CID building was, I guess. Uh-huh. Put me in there, and and they recorded. me for a while. Um, asked me a few. questions, and we're. uh, they were very. very concerned about the next 24 hours.
Like they wanted. they wanted to make sure I I don't know, maybe that I wasn't there for some other. purpose or related to something. Um. It was. it was pretty odd. Um, they didn't answer any of the questions. I was there for. Uh, they didn't give me the. documentation I wanted. They did give me. a report number to go ahead and and you. you went ahead and I gave that to you. You did. Uh, we'll see what that says, but um.
yeah, they were looking for any excuse. to. try and. um. hold me up for like 24 hours. And that. 24-hour number kept getting repeated, uh. by them. And then eventually they didn't. have anything to hold me. I wasn't a. harm to myself or others. I wasn't there. to you know, spy on anybody. Um. I really just wanted to get records and. and get out of that desert. Um.
As reminiscent as it was, the place. creeps me out a little bit. So. uh. yeah, once they said you have to stay. off base for 24 hours, I was. don't worry about it, I ain't coming. back. Um. got the Tucson, stayed the night there. in a hotel. Um, never got a refund on my Candlewood. Suites. Uh. but um.
yeah, got on the plane, and um. before we touched down, I had a stop off. in Salt Lake City. By the time we wheeled down, you know, we got the news about Charlie Kirk. Um. And of course, that's been just all over. the. all over the. um, all over the news. Everybody's. watching it. And um. you know, I I don't think anybody's. believing. what the federal government's saying.
about it for sure, but. uh, what I noticed. um. I don't know these people from TPUSA. Um, never been associated. Uh, I could. recognize Charlie Kirk probably. But um. what I started seeing come across and. got more familiar once I saw a picture. of somebody in a ponytail with those. eyes. that was that person. They were there.
And um. the head of security there. he was one of the people walking out. with the congressman. Now. how would I know that? I I I just have a. gift for recognizing people. And. now, maybe it's not him. Maybe he has. doppelganger. But. somebody with the same mannerisms, the. same crick in his neck.
face, waxy look on his face. hand gestures, uh, shoulder shrug. gait approximate height, haircut. definitely walked past me. Um. And in the hotel you have to put it at a. percentage that you were. >> looking at Brian Harpole. Maybe he's got. a brother in the military, who knows, right? Maybe he does have a. doppelganger. He's got a twin brother, who knows. And I want to be clear, I can confirm. on this podcast live every step of your.
story in terms of where you went, what. time you were there, um, that there was. this big meeting that happened. I. confirmed the location with other people. that are that are on. uh, Fort Huachuca currently. I can. confirm everything with metadata. Um, I obviously can't confirm that you. saw who you say you saw. If you had to put it at a percentage. that you saw Brian Harpole. what percentage would you put it at? 95. 95%. Okay. >> 95 to 99. I mean, I.
uh, when I saw him, you know, on the. interview with the. with his face and gestures, um. I. yeah, with that photo. it struck me in my gut. Um. I blew it off. until there was. you know, some other pictures that came. up with other people. Um What other people?
Other pictures. Uh, if you want me to say uh. there's a picture of Erica Kirk with a. ponytail, and um from from her past. That person matches who I saw at Fort. Huachuca in the lobby the night before. And she was with that. with that man in the lobby. And that man. he was present at that meeting. Uh, the next morning. So, if you had to.
put it at a percentage. that you saw that the girl in the. ponytail matches the description of. Erica Kirk, what percentage would you. put that at? Those are really rare eyes. Um. that's 95 to 99%. I I. I can't imagine somebody else. Okay. So, what I'm going to say, because.
obviously this that's very explosive, and it's it's one of the reasons why I. wanted I wasn't sure if I wanted to have. you on. I'm going to be honest with you, because I. Oh gosh, I mean, I guess I'll tell you. the conflict that I had, and just be. just as honest with you as I as you are. being with me. The first thing was. I can't confirm it, right? I can confirm. where you were. I can do all of that, and but I I can't confirm what you what. you think you saw. I don't know you. Um, I don't know. there are people like my husband who we. can see someone once, and he recognizes. that person 10 years later exactly where. we saw them. And there are people like.
me, and I kind of have facial blindness. until I meet someone three times. The second thing was I didn't want. people to wrongly extrapolate things and. say, "Okay, well, maybe she was on the. base. Maybe she There's a chance she. wasn't on the base, right? And that she. has a doppelganger. People do have. doppelgangers. I have doppelgangers, right?" Um, but let's say she was on the. base. Let's say you're right, and you. saw her. This is the night before. This. is on the 8th. And maybe she was in the. hotel. and but maybe she was there for a. different reason. Maybe she was there. because she's always been open about the.
fact that her mother moved to Arizona. because she got involved with the. military, so that could be totally. unrelated to the meeting that took place. on the 9th. And I didn't want to. but then I I I I I said to myself, I am. this man has lived through so much. You. know what I mean? This man has lived. through so much and I would be turning. my back on this. really a hero discovering the cartels. who's lived through so much and has been. treated like the government and then I I. struggled with my own soul going, I'm.
turning my my on him because I'm afraid. of backlash for allowing him to tell the. truth. And so and and my soul was in. conflict. And I decided that, you know, what? I am not This is not my platform, okay? I I genuinely believe this is. God's platform. I am a conduit. I don't. know why I have a platform and I don't. know why you have this luck in life. I. really don't. I don't know why these. things happen to you or why they happen. to me, but I know that my my prayer was. very intentional that night.
that I received that email. So, I'm going to allow the internet to. hear your testimony, hear what you. think. And I also want to show them a. picture because we did look through some. congressmen and I didn't tell you where. they were congressman from, but there is. one that you thought looked familiar. And I am going to show that picture of. him now. Uh. this is and Skyler, someone's got to get. in my ear cuz I'm blanking on his name. Mark Amodei? Is that right? Mark Amodei from Las Vegas and you.
thought that this could potentially be. the congressman that you saw on the 9th. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one that walked. closest to you. >> That's the one that walked closest to. you. That's 95. I I'm absolutely, you. know, after I've looked at it, um. that's Yeah, that was definitely the. guy. Okay. Now, we have then been able to look at. flights and look at who could have been. at that meeting. We were able to confirm. based on a call sign that there was. somebody heavy duty that was at Fort.
Huachuca airbase. Fort Huachuca, pardon. On that morning who made sure to turn. off their transponder. So, we are the. clues the picture is coming together. that you saw what you saw then that call. sign did change at a certain time which. lets us know that then it could have. been moved to a congressman. There could be a chance that that person. they were blocking you from seeing when. they all lined up might have been. someone that is I could be Kash Patel. I. mean, I have a could be Kash Patel.
That's someone who could have a call. sign even running ideas. It could also. not be him. And I I want to be clear. I do think you. saw I think I think that is the reason. they surrounded you was to make sure you. couldn't see who was walking out. I. think your instincts are right on that. And. I don't know what to say other than I. know what you are going to go through. now. And I want you to know that you have an. ally with me and I know how much you are. already going through fighting them and. I intend to help you raise money.
to go through these lawsuits with the. federal government. I know this is not. easy. I know what your kid has been. through. I know what your wife has been. through and no one should have to be. through this have to go through this. because they told the truth. And potentially stumbled upon something. corrupt did definitively. uh stumble upon something corrupt and I. think the public will be with you. because they see what I'm going through. right now. being sued by a transatlantic. president overseas for just trying to. tell the truth and um I just want you to. know that like I know that this is hard.
for you and given everything you've been. through, but like I am here with you. I. am going to to fundraise money for you. and I'm here for you and your family. through whatever comes next. Oh, boy, that's really wonderful. I I am. I I have told you that thank you. I'd like to see justice. I'd like to. I'd like to see our government being. honest again. Or. some some level.
I don't know. why I was there or why I got to see what. I did or or how I happened to walk in on. something. I wasn't there to. you know, obviously I didn't know what was going. to happen the next 24 hours. It seems. coincidental that that was the number. they kept bringing up and. whatever they were doing. it was important and they didn't want. any anybody looking at it and. okay, the military does that stuff. That's that's what they do. I.
Thank you. You know, for everything I but really. after hearing some of the other stuff, hearing about some of the threats. against you and I and I do. I watched. some of the other podcasts with. Valhalla. Really good guy even if he he gave me a. bunch of. bunch of crap about stuff. Um fellow brother there from first. group. Um. Now, he he had uh.
when he interviewed the French Foreign. Legion he and he got to learn a little. bit about sometimes how. in the intelligence world how things. cross over. And other countries are a little bit. dirtier and they borrow resources from. us. Um Fort Huachuca is one of those places. they would have to have done that. And when I. I had. I had to pray myself and be on I I tried. to. I just wanted to give.
I just wanted to give you a tip. uh since you're pulling on these threads. and I had no idea that you were going to. do all this. Um. I want you to know that there were there. were literally. 51,000. emails unanswered in that box. >> Okay. And I went to church and I prayed and I. said give me something and I it was it. was the first thing just like I said to. you. I mean, I what did I call 4 minutes. after the email was sent? And it was.
actually me. I didn't send it to like my. producer. I was just like, hey, maybe. maybe this is it. And I can't I can't help but to see God. in in that and and not. you know, God as in people being trained. in intelligence to make us think that. everything is holy, but rather truly I. saw God in that and um. yeah, it just it just it's it's. stunning. It's it's hard not to see God. in something like that happening in that. order. So, um. I don't know what comes next, but I just. want you to know that like you have an. ally in me and I I will I'm a hope you. see that I am a fighter. And when I see.
good people and bad things happen to. them, I will fight and same for the. people that watch this podcast. They are. they are they are fighters as well. So, and they've had my back and they will. have your back. I promise you that. I really appreciate that. There are a. lot of people in the military who um. when you see things, I'm sure there's. people down at Fort Huachuca and other. places have seen things and. and um. there's a lot of people that stay quiet. to stay nice to to. you know, um.
not be in conflict and. I had to pray. Um this doesn't help. This doesn't help my situation at all. It's going to aggravate it. I'm. absolutely sure. And um. but the truth matters. And um. that's why we wanted to send this up to. you. We had no idea. all of a sudden you'd be calling us. Uh. that was. You really interrupted our gym time by. the way and we really need it.
Um. Typically, I try to laugh things off. quite a bit, but things were getting. quite serious. And uh. I think Baron Coleman he gets it. Um. Keep pulling those threads. And I hope you stay safe. >> And same to you. And like I said, I I'm. going to put together a fundraiser for. you. um you know, imminently. So, and this is. obviously it's just the first. conversation we're having. Uh I just.
want to thank you from the bottom of my. heart not not just for for sharing what. happened and I do believe you are a. missing piece of this. I also want to. thank you for your service. I want to. thank you for trying to do what our. government should be doing which is. stopping the cartels and not partnering. with them. And so. just to thank you for your military. service and all that you've gone. through. Thank you, Ms. Owens. Thank you, Candace. Thank you. We will be uh. >> thank you also. Thank you, guys. We will be right back, you guys. I'm.
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It sickens me. Our government sickens. me. People telling me that I need to. worry about midterms when there is just. so much corruption that is happening um. and good men that are being persecuted. while bad men are being protected. Uh. so, I wanted to just basically say that. you If you look at my socials, I'll make. sure that I get a uh fundraiser out for. Mitch and his family and hopefully we. can help them with some of the legal. costs that they have endured. Curbster writes, "We stand behind you, Mitch and your family, just as much as.
we stand behind Oh, we stand behind you, Mitch and your family, just as much as. we stand behind Candace. Thank you for. your service and continued bravery and. resolve despite our government not doing. the same for you. May God continue to. protect you and use you to reveal the. truth.". That's very I'm sorry, that's just going. to make them cry. I know that they were. in tears from all the messages of. support that they got uh the first time. around when I when I just shared their. story. Madeline writes, "Thank you, Candace, for keeping me sane these last. 100 or so days. I still cannot believe. that Charlie is not among us, but um.
thank you for trying to find who really. did this to him and for helping us all. get through it." Like I said, this feels. like the um. like there's nothing more important than. getting to the bottom of this because. the implications are so far-reaching. And for me, it is I I I just have I. don't care about politics anymore. I. just don't care. Uh and I do believe that our government. was involved in this. Our government is. involved in the cover the cover-up. And. the people that would have to okay that. would be the very people. that Charlie fought for. Uh he fought.
for them to get into office. He. sleepless nights fighting for those. people to be in office. And so, like I said over and over again, I don't. care about your midterms. I I just don't. care about your midterms. I want to know. who killed Charlie Kirk and I want to. know why. I want to know why he had to. die. Martin Box writes, "Thank you for being. my compass throughout the last few. months and helping me to gauge right. from wrong. Christ is king." Indeed, Christ is king. Betsy Figueroa writes, "I recognize the. psychological religious operation going. on since Trump was elected. It's been. wild to watch. Christ called us to be. peacemakers. I would like to help with.
Preborn. I'm in Arizona and I am also an. ultrasound tech. They know They will. know us by our love." Please reach out. to Preborn. They do fantastic work and. you are right to recognize that. They. were also gaslighting us about that and. I'm I mean I was saying like there are. so many of these people that have. very high-up military and military. military connections who are have these. platforms and all they do is they focus. on the Bible and I'm telling you there's. something wrong. There's just something. that is wrong and you can kind of see. the mask slip now because these people.
purport to care about what happened to. Charlie and the easiest thing is to. demand truth and instead they're. protecting people like Josh Hammer. It's. just like such an obviously bad person. He lied and they'll go out of their way. to protect those individuals. That's a. psychological operation. That's not the. truth. And it's actually in many ways. the most sadistic of all psychol. psychological operations because what. they're doing is they are asserting. themselves as the. we are the most literate in scripture, so we can tell you whether or not your. soul's going to be condemned.
if you listen to this person or you. don't listen to this person. It is. It makes me sick. Like I said, I hold. the most contempt for those that hold up. the Bible as they criticize people. knowing fully well that they could care. less about what's in the Bible and they. just want to take swipes and attack. somebody and feel justified in doing it. It's so it's so arrogant. Uh and it's I. think it's also tremendously evil. because there are people that follow you. and they are true Christians. Namari Valamar writes, "Those who have.
been watching every single episode would. not abandon ship. Do not lose hope, but. place your trust in Christ alone. The. Holy Spirit will bring discernment.". That is true. And I think that's what this has been a. story of. We all have spiritual. discernment, right? We are feeling. things on a spiritual level and we are. having people that think they can. replace our spirit with garbage and just. like, "Well, enough of us will say this. and then it will be true. We'll just. keep saying Tyler Robinson. We'll just. keep saying the the evidence is. overwhelming and we'll somehow hijack. the spirit." And And this time we're. saying, "No.".
Ivan writes, "The more haters, the more. we know that you are on on track. Go, Max, Candace." Again, guys, I'm going to. jump off cuz we are over time here, but. uh you will be hearing more from me on. my socials. I will put up a GiveSendGo. for Mitch and his family. Uh we will. obviously be giving in a big capacity. and I hope that you guys will join me in. doing that. We'll see you guys tomorrow. [Music].
