EXCLUSIVE: Ben Shapiro’s 9/10 “Lunch” Date. More Text Messages From Charlie Kirk. | Ep 365

All right, you guys, happy Thursday. End. of our week, at least, and as promised. today, we received information regarding. who Ben Shapiro was with when Charlie. Kirk was hit. Ben claims he was at a breakfast or a. lunch. Now, we were unable to confirm. that little bit, but we were able to get. solid information on who is telling. people that he was with Ben Shapiro, so. we are going to discuss that. Also, we got an absolutely wild comment. yesterday from one of you at home, and I. have to share it. I will preface this by.

saying that I'm not going down the. rabbit hole totally, but somebody else. might be. I'm just going to sort of stir the pot. on this one, because my jaw was on the. floor reading this comment and doing a. little bit of research and realizing it. was accurate, and it is regarding. another mysterious and untimely death in. Hollywood. So, welcome back to Candace.

All right, you guys, I want to talk. about parasites, because they are. fascinating little organisms. They're. creepy, but they are fascinating in part. because their survival depends on. feeding off of a host and causing it. harm. I mean, really think about that. existence, not being able to live unless. you are causing destruction. I'm one of those people that really. loved watching Animal Planet and Animal. Planet and Discovery growing up, and I. still do, by the way. And what's.

especially interesting about parasites. is the manner in which they infect their. host. As you probably know, there are. many different kinds of mind-controlling. parasites, literally. They infect the. mind of healthy organisms, and they. pervert their worldview, causing the. host to do things that are ultimately. harmful to and sometimes plainly. suicidal to themselves. Ants, as just. one example, can have their minds. invaded by parasites that convince the. ants to climb up onto grass blades and. to position themselves to be eaten by.

predators. Think about that. They become actual. zombie ants. And you've also maybe heard the same. thing regarding the parasite that house. cats carry. I'm sure you've heard a lot. about it if you're a woman and you're. pregnant, they always warn you about. toxoplasmosis. uh gondii or T. gondii for short. Because if humans are overexposed to it, they can become convinced, I'm not. kidding, that they are in love with. their cats. There have been cases where. people have wanted to quit their jobs.

and stay home with their cats and the. doctor has to let them know, "You're. actually carrying a parasite." That's. actually one of the components of how. cats are able to catch mice. They're. able to convince the cat to convince the. mice that um they're it's they're safe, that they're in love with them. It's. totally bizarre and wacky. You should. read up on it. If you're like me, you'll. be very interested. Then there are the type of parasite that. rather than taking over the mind of the. host, they can take over the tongue. I'm I'm not kidding. They are called.

tongue-snatching isopods isopods and. they can invade a fish through its gills. and attach to the base of its tongue. until it causes uh the tongue to just. take it over completely, replace the. tongue of its host and control the organ. entirely, which is crazy to think about. A parasite just controlling your tongue. And it's astonishing to me that there. are entire groups of people, human. beings, who emulate this exact behavior. I always say that I look at people and. I'm like, "What animal in the kingdom. are you?" And sometimes you come across.

an insect and there are these people who. seek to control and dominate what other. people think, just like a parasite, what other people. say, just like a parasite, who invade, very much like parasites, in the sort of. effort to drive people crazy. They behave as though they're going to. die. unless they can take and infect others. I've come across these people, of. course, a lot in the last 3 years, and. sometimes I'm like, "Hey, could you just. move on? Is it cool if I just disagree.

with you on that topic? Can I think my. own thoughts?". And I feel like their response is, "No, I will die if you do that. I have to. keep focusing on this and trying to. weigh you down." That obviously has been. my experience in recent years with. Zionists. Like, they just cannot let it. go. But, there's also a spiritual. component to it as well. We showed you. yesterday Canaanites, literal ball. worshipers, modeling themselves after. Nimrod, meaning that they are permanently at war. with the creator.

There is a damnation to being at war. with the creator. It means that you. can't create. If you give yourself over to these sorts. of demons, you can no longer create. You. don't have a way back to the source. So, you have to model yourself after a. parasite. You have to steal. You have to. deceive. You have to manipulate. You. have to entrap people via contracts. Entrap people who do have the creative. force. because you can't produce that within. yourself. Charlie Kirk had the creative force.

within him. You could see that, the. lightness in his eyes, the joy. He's a. happy warrior. He wanted to build, build, not destroy. Michael Jackson had. that creative spark. Um and then people. surrounded him. Justin Bieber, I will. say, finally looks like he has his. creative spark back. He's simplified. things. after breaking free from contracts that. were costing him his soul. That's the moment that we're in right. now in society. I really believe that. On a personal level level, I've told you. guys over and over again, and I will. stand by this fact that Ben Shapiro.

behaves like a parasite. It It's just a. fact. If you just look at his history, it has been my experience with him, and. I am not the only one. Steve Bannon, the. once executive chairman to Breitbart. News, Ben's former employer, explained. this, um how after Andrew Breitbart died. I should mention young and under very. suspicious circumstances Ben attempted. to take over Andrew's company. And when. that failed he plotted to take down the. company because why can't he have it?

Doesn't matter if he built it, it should. be his. So take a listen to what Steve Bannon. said at AmFest last December about Ben. >> Ben Shapiro is like a cancer and that. cancer spreads. >> [applause]. >> It's a cancer and it metastasizes. He tried to take over Breitbart and I. ran him out of there. He tried to take. over David Horowitz's who was his. mentor. Don't ask me, ask the guys. associated with David Horowitz what he.

did there. He tried to take that over. And mark my word, he will make a move on. Turning Point because he's always been. envious of Charlie Kirk. >> I've marked those words. And what has become alarming is that Ben. fixates. He does, he fixates. He cannot. move on. He was fixated on Charlie Kirk. all throughout his career. He is. similarly fixated on Tucker Carlson. I. mean, I worked at The Daily Wire and it. was totally bizarre to me how focused.

the executives were on Tucker. Like like. they were in some competition. Tucker. never spoke about Ben. And yet they it. was constantly this topic. Uh Ben tried to stop Charlie's rise. I. have said that repeatedly and he gave. him trouble all throughout his career. That is a fact. Charlie first thought he looked up to. Ben and then in 2018 as soon as Ben got. envious, so what Ben exactly what Bannon. is referring to, it switched and he. began doing the stuff that he does. behind the scenes because well, he just. thinks it's supposed to be his and he's.

looking for a host. Now I have tried to execute, believe it. or not, a lot of restraint in sharing. things that I know and it has been very. difficult for me to straddle knowing the. things that I know about Charlie and his. shifting opinions and what began the. shift in those opinions and then having. to watch at the same time the very. people that he was fighting. toward the end of his life lie just lie. without any recourse like they don't.

have souls. And the most shocking has been Andrew. Kolvet, his attempt to pretend that. Charlie and me were never friends that. Charlie and me had some imaginary. falling out and we just did not have. each other's back since 2019. Worse of all I think is then him just. inverting reality and claiming that. Charlie and Ben were friends. I want to. be very clear that is diabolical. That is diabolical. I actually was.

sitting in Spain next to Carrie Prejean. Baller and I was just showing her all of. these messages and she her jaw was on. the floor. She was like I I I I can't. even believe this cuz we were watching. Andrew tweet this narrative. >> [laughter]. >> Candace wasn't friends with Charlie and. Ben was. Charlie was the single person. just so you guys know who provided me. with the most emotional support when the. Zionist thugs came for me like that. began as you guys know in earnest at the.

end of 2023. with the Christ is King scandal then me. getting fired and Charlie talked me. through all of that. He kept me. clear-minded, focused, told me how I. should react and I believe that the. treatment of me. which he predicted and told me what was. going to happen next served as. a major point of him recognizing. what he and I had arrived in suddenly. where people were trying to control us. and at the same time because this was.

post October 7th of course where the. thugs just started thugging a bit harder. and demanding, uh, that people, I don't. know, say what they were supposed to say. or else. they also attacked Charlie. Then they. called him anti-Semitic. So, I'm going to show you this text. message thread. Now that Andrew Klavan. is out the gate saying Charlie was. terrified of me and we weren't friends. since 2019 and he was just managing our. relationship. I'm going to show you a. snippet of our our our thread. This one. dated November 15th, 2023.

when Ben Shapiro began his attacks. against me and you are. going to be able to judge for yourself. what kind of relationship we had. Uh, shockingly, just to be clear, I was. working, uh, for a Ben Shapiro, who's a part. owner of Daily Wire, for that company. when this was going down and it was. obvious that there was a coordinated. effort from the inside post October 7th. to begin privately pressuring and. smearing anybody who wasn't repeating. the narrative that Israel, uh, were the. only victims, that everything began on. October 7th and they had a right to do.

whatever they wanted. Um, the beginning. of the infamous Christ is King and. genocide is always wrong scandal when. they started swarming. I still make a. scribe it's a swarm, an infestation. So, here are the messages. Charlie sent me his tweet defending me. I am genuinely confused why asking. questions and quoting Bible verses about. peace warrants a call to resign from the. Daily Wire. There should be more room in. the conservative movement for. disagreement. We can do better than. this. Charlie then wrote to me, "Don't resign. because it's what they want." I said, "I.

won't. I know.". Uh, Charlie wrote, "Jeremy Boring, who. knew exactly what Jeremy was, 100%. workshopped this. This is not Ben acting. alone. This is a hit.". I said, "I believe it. I believe that. 100%. Also, they are idiots.". Charlie then came back and said, "This. is a C-level hit against you. because they think they can provoke. you." Which was what was happening. They. were trying to provoke me to quit. I. wrote back, "Yes." And he said, "That's. why this is all coordinated.".

I came back and I said, "Also, Marissa,". and I was referring to Marissa Strait of. Prager University, "is involved. I suspect they always send. her out last to talk sense to me.". He said, "They want you to do a video. Oh my god, I'm out. I'm not going to. work for him." I said, "I believe it.". He said, "Marissa Strait, she's part of. the tribe. Do not listen to her.". I said, "I know she is. I always know. when they roll her out, it's like. programming and this time I stood up to. her because I did that time.

Did not apologize for saying genocide is. always wrong.". Charlie said, "Good." He continues, "I've told all the Jews recently to go. to hell. who try it and tell me to stop." I said, "It's unreal. It's an implicit threat.". He said, "Btw to the flight work out, okay?" I was 40 weeks pregnant and he. was helping me to find a plane last. second. And I said, "By the way, you are. featured in my Tucker interview that. just dropped. I defended you hardcore. I. forgot to mention that he just dropped. it." And he said, "Thank you. We are on. the same team. Screw these people.".

And I said, "Around the 20-minute mark.". And he said, "Thank you for doing that. I really appreciate it. Very few of us are willing to stand up. to the cabal right now.". I said, "Thank you so much for having my. back. You know I have yours. I'm really. so disgusted by what they did to you. Years of service to the pro-Israel cause. and no one cares. Treating you like you. are only as good as what you can do to. them. The plane worked out great today. Thank you so much. It made all the. difference. This pregnant lol, I'm. literally 40 weeks." And he wrote, "Absolutely. We are on the same team. People are waking up and it is finally. happening.".

He continued, "It is so transactional. I'm repulsed by it. For years I was I. was called a Jewish Jewish shill. And. now they say I am a Hamas agent. Screw. them. The game has changed.". So, that's a snippet into what began. conversations between me and Charlie. over the course of um well, I guess only. a year and a half later he would be. dead. Just over a year and a half later. he would he would be murdered uh about. Zionism and uh how they were moving in. on speech, how they were bullying us. We.

have conversations about Seth Dillon, all the players who we were involved and. trying to gaslight us by name-calling us. and very clearly were coordinating with. one another. And I've always told you. guys the truth from the beginning that. uh after that, when I got fired, you can. go watch the clips of Charlie saying, "We have her back. We're on her side.". Um and those conversations were. happening. Again, he was telling me what. the best moves were to make, providing. the advice and guidance as he always. did. Uh when I went and spoke at YWLN,

he and I sat in a room and chatted about. what was happening behind the scenes of. Daily Wire, what they were doing uh. legally speaking, uh opened up to him. about that. I believe Andrew Klavan was. actually present for that discussion, um. if I recall, before I went on stage. And. so. then we I was told, through messages, actually text messages that I have with. Andrew, that Ben Shapiro was squ-. squeezing their donors and trying to get. them to say that I couldn't speak at.

AmFest um at the end of 2024. And I. said, "Charlie, I don't even care about. that. Like, don't let them know. I know you're under attack. I don't care. about any of that. Literally, I'm under. so much pressure right now. I have to. now rebuild my podcast. Like, who cares? Like, just take Let's take a beat.". I'm sharing this with you because I want. you to really imagine. not just my shock, but also my internal. and what will now be my eternal disgust.

experiencing uh. his quote-unquote friends. completely. lie about this. Okay? This is, by the way, not new. Everyone who knew Charlie, as I told you. many times, they knew that not only that. Charlie and I were close. Of course, the. president of the United States comes to. you and asks you to call Candace about. Brigitte Macron, it's because everyone. knows that you and Candace are close. But, um everyone also knew that he was under.

pressure from pro-Israel donors since. October 7th, 2023. Everyone also knew that he has never. liked and was always disgusted by the. way Ben behaved, by the way Ben treated. his friends and his enemies. Um he doesn't care if you're a friend, as you saw with Megyn Kelly, he would. throw you under the bus in 4 seconds if. it's about Israel. And in the end, less than 24 hours. before he died, Charlie snapped. He did abandon the pro-Israel cause. He. was not joking in those messages as some.

of people have tried to say. He put his foot down and he texted. multiple people that he was done and. that he wanted to bring me back. That. was the sign of how they were squeezing. him the year before. Yet immediately after his death, the. person who. I could show you text messages over the. course of every single year up until he. died. The one person that Charlie made it. perfectly clear. from our early days.

that he was at war with, okay? Here's. another throwback. This one older. um of Charlie saying just that, that he. was at war. Uh she's close with Ben. Yep, the war is. on. Snakes in the garden, they are not. our friends. Time to fight. Back when he was just trying to stop. Charlie from rising because he is. naturally envious. He doesn't want. anyone to be bigger than him. um and sees it as his right to sue, steal, take. I don't know. It's a it's. it's it truly is.

the non-spirit of a parasite. We have to imagine how I felt. Suddenly and almost immediately. following this. Charlie's assassination, that Ben of all. people is sitting in his studio, in. Charlie's studio with a million dollars. in hand attempting to buy his legacy. And I shouldn't say attempt, right? Because they allowed it. Andrew then lied. He lied. Didn't feel anything when he. did it. He said Ben and Charlie were. friends.

Allowed him to open at his event. His. wife as well allowed that, right? She. came out first and then Ben came out. And not only that, he had to have pre-submitted his speech. That's usually how it goes. They knew he. was going to go on the attack against. Charlie's actual friends. Me, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly. And now we fast forward and we learn. that Ben. uh claims that his security, who are. former consists of former Israeli IDF.

members, were on the phone with. Charlie's security. during the critical 7 minutes that. Charlie was fighting for his life. While. Charlie was dying in the back seat. of an SUV, his enemy. was receiving updates. How sinister is that? I want you to comprehend how sinister. that is. And let's uh take a listen to Ben state. this so you can fully appreciate how.

deeply evil it feels. Take a listen. I remember where I was. when all this was happening. I was in. Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast. {slash} lunch meeting with somebody. And my uh I I got the news that Charlie. had been shot. And my security was on. the phone with Charlie's security cuz. nobody knew what the hell was going on. while Charlie was still in the back of. the car and we were sort of getting. updates along the way. There's visual. timelines that show Charlie's body being. carried to a vehicle within minutes of. being shot. Apparently, he was still. alive at the time. Again, I know that. only because my security was talking to.

his security in the car. I hate that. I hate that. I hope Charlie couldn't hear. Everything about his demeanor there does. not pass the vibe check for me. Everything about his aggressive position. and demeanor since Charlie's passing has. signaled to me that something is very. awry. So, what did we do? We put out a bounty. I said, "Who was Benny boy with at breakfast or. or lunch?" He doesn't remember breakfast.

or lunch. And we instantly heard back, and we took. our time to verify the person that we. were speaking with that person was. authentic. We did everything possible to fact-check. the information. Uh regardless, I will still say. allegedly because of course there is. always room for misunderstanding. But the person that Ben was with has. allegedly told various other people that. he was with Ben when Charlie Kirk was. shot. Now, we. were not able to confirm that they were. at breakfast or lunch. Only what came to. us was that they were together.

Um and that person is a man named Gary. Jabitch. Ben was allegedly with Gary Jabitch and. and as of yet unidentified woman when. Charlie Kirk was shot. Now, we have a. strong guess as to who that woman could. be, but we'd rather not venture a guess. unnecessarily. So, Gary Jabitch is not a person that. you have a likely ever heard of unless. you are Jewish and involved in the. community, but he is certainly very well. known. Uh actually very powerful. And we weighed his identification this.

identification as likely um determined. it was probably likely given the reason. that Ben was in Los Angeles on that. September day. For clarity, Ben was in. Los Angeles because he was scheduled to. appear later that evening at the Ronald. Reagan Presidential Library in Simi. Valley at uh 6:00 p.m. That event was eventually canceled. because Charlie was shot. What we can confirm about Gary Jabitch. is that he has spent last few decades of. his life he's older in his 70s mid-70s.

in Omaha, Nebraska of all places, right? He got one of his degrees in Omaha, Nebraska back in the '90s and has been. there ever since. Now, Omaha, Nebraska just keeps coming. up. It really does, right? Whether we're. talking about the Egyptian plains, whether we're talking about other topics. throughout this case when we were. initially looking into. Turning Point reopening their UNL. chapter, we've talked a lot in general about. Nebraska, surprisingly so. Uh but most.

critically, what is something that you. should know about Gary Jabach is that he. is and he's has been the executive. director. of B'nai B'rith International for years. B'nai B'rith. is the Jewish Freemasonic lodge. That immediately piqued my interest, especially if you're in my book club, you know the stuff that we have learned. about B'nai B'rith. uh. throughout our study of Sigmund Freud. This is what just sort of ripped me into. a new reality. Sigmund Freud and the.

Jewish mystical tradition. Uh yes, B'nai B'rith was indeed founded. by German Jews. Uh it was a Freemason. lodge where Sigmund Freud, as we learned. in one of our books, was free to. denigrate the in his. correspondence with his fellow Jews. Uh he would say things like, "That joke. is much too good for goyim." Uh but they. tell us that that's just meant to be. mean nation or something. B'nai B'rith then spun into the. Anti-Defamation League. It's important.

uh note that you should know about that. Um and that happened when the. extraordinarily. wealthy Jewish man in Atlanta named Leo. Frank, um who owned a factory and was. president of the Atlanta B'nai B'rith. chapter, assaulted and murdered an impoverished. 13-year-old Catholic girl named Mary. Phagan. He was convicted of this crime despite. trying to blame it on a poor, illiterate. black janitor who also worked for him at. the factory.

Do Do know how guilty you would have to. be to get a jury to not convict a black. man in the South, in the segregated. South in 1913? Yet to this day, every year the ADL. lobbies, claims it was anti-Semitism. that he got convicted where there was. none. He was unbelievably powerful. player um and he was also convicted by a. jury that consisted of Jews. And they have been attempting to get. that conviction overturned for decades. Now, I highly recommend you read this. little packet and conduct your own.

research, The Ugly Truth About the ADL. It's very important you understand what. they have been involved in in this. country since their founding. Read it. as I did and then research the claims. that are made in this as I did. and think for yourself. But we are. coming to a point in this country. um that it is very important that you. understand what that group is, um. where they come from, uh and in my view, the danger that the. ADL represents.

Anyway, back to Gary. He served on the B'nai B'rith. International's uh board as their. executive board chair in 2011, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019. He received the. inaugural President's Award in 2019 for. advancing the organization's mission. A 2022 report identified him as the. director of the local B'nai B'rith. chapter in Omaha. He is also the. director of the Chabad Lubavitch of. Nebraska. Again, if you're not in my.

book club, you should just read the. books. I would read David Bakan's. Sigmund Freud and the Jewish mystical. tradition. You will note that anytime the Chabad. Lubavitch is mentioned, underground tunnels in New York, there's. this immediate vicious reaction online. Uh there's a reason for that. There was a person currently sitting in. jail who tried to murder me, plotted my. murder on a chat with 20 other Jews. None of them notified me. The FBI got involved. Stunning that 20.

people could be on a chat as a person is. saying how he's going to murder Candace. Owens and none of them would reach out. I can't imagine that in Christian world. I can't imagine. uh. a chat with 20 Christians plotting the. assassination. of Ben Shapiro and nobody would reach. out and be like, um this person's crazy. and I want to do inform you that I'm on. this chat with a crazy person. But. that's that's what happened. It is real. There's a person sitting in jail because. I mentioned. the Abad Lubavitchers history. Particularly as it pertains to uh the.

Brooklyn tomb that every president seems. to visit including Donald Trump. Uh. more about Gary. His professional. professional biography says that he. served on the National Council of AIPAC. Gary was the president of the Nebraska. chapter of AIPAC. It also lists his twin. brother David Jabach as being on the. board of AIPAC currently. Now, we were. able to discover that Ben Shapiro and. his wife have been donating a life and.

legacy amount to the Jewish Federation. of Omaha, Nebraska for years. I I know he has some ties to Omaha. I'm. not really clear to what extent or why. Um maybe he just likes it. But um of. course Gary is involved with that. organization as a host and a donor. That is all we know. I do not need to. draw any further conclusions because. everything about this situation gives me. the ick. But I will put out another. bounty similarly uh for $25,000.

for the person who can tell me. who in Charlie's car. was speaking to who. on Ben's. security team. We will protect your identity as we. always do. Uh we will obviously work. with you to make sure you're comfortable. in how I share the information. Um and I. am I'm good for it. You can trust me. This matters very deeply to me, but I. wanted to uh just really underscore how. despicable the Turning Point USA team.

has been in their lies. There's no. bottom to their lies, and if they will. lie about something like that. for a half a million dollar check, yeah. They betrayed Charlie. One way or the other. Though they are. currently actually every day betraying. Charlie. It was a a betrayal to sit. there and to lie about who his friends. were and who his enemies are. So if you have any have any information, I will again state, please uh send us an. email to moretips@candaceowens.com.

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deny, you attack, you reverse the victim and. the offender. Totally crazy town. We saw. this yesterday, uh, when Andrew Kolb who. as Baron Coleman accurately states is a. liar who lies about everything blamed me. for the hit piece against me when it. went wrong. Now here's the thing that's. now happening which I am just beside. myself with happiness that this is. starting to occur.

is that people who didn't weren't sure. about Turning Point USA, you know, people who were you know, had the icky I. think we all did initially like okay. like this is kind of Charlie's legacy. and. maybe people who initially disliked me. they're starting to change now because. they're shocked at the audacity of the. lies. And so. Andrew took a very big risk in telling. this lie and for clarity the article is. still up because he's lying. They cannot get a retraction from the. Daily Mail because he's lying through. his teeth. These quotes did not. materialize from Candace Owens, they did.

not materialize from nowhere. No. associate editor would put their. livelihood on the line and risk being. sued the entire publication being sued. to make up quotes whole cloth from a. a woman who has not just victim status. amongst the elites but has the DOJ and. the president's office backing her up. Like that's not something they're going. to do, right? Lose their job livelihood. so I can make up a quote about Erica. But he's stupid and he he took that risk. anyway and what it did was it actually.

made them lose a lot of favor with. people that work in and around media. And obviously those people all talk, they all communicate, they follow. stories and they're like what is going. on this that. Anyway, so we. received without even asking. I didn't. even say hey if you have any info about. this. We received a flurry of emails of. people who presented proof concrete. proof that the story did indeed come. from a family friend of Erica.

and that family friend is exactly who I. suspected it was Tracy Martin because. Tracy Martin also lies. Tracy Martin's. been doing the rounds in the press. She. was giving quotes to Us magazine and. she's also the person who had a. perfectly friendly phone call with me. and pretended that I was shouting and. cursing her out on the phone. That tells. me. she's a liar. She's a liar. And what she immediately did when I said.

I suspected it was her it was that she. tried to get ahead of it and go on to. Paramount Tactical show and now, this is. before I had received emails to the. effect that it was Tracy Martin, um and like I said I'll say allegedly, but I feel very good about the source. And um you can just hear the manner in. which Tracy Martin is tries to get in. front of this and lies with her usual. Erica never does anything wrong ever in. her whole life even though Tracy was. friends with Erica back in the days when. she was dating uh.

you know, uh. basketball players. Erica, you can find. videos of her rapping to gangster music. when she was partying. Tracy Martin's. going to pretend none of that ever. happened and Erica just doesn't talk. like that. Watch her lie. Take a listen. >> Tracy, let us know what your thoughts. are on this. And by the way, were you. the person that Daily Mail contacted and. you provided this information? >> Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. >> You've read both those articles cuz you.

sent them to me. You read the original article and you've. now read the. >> tell us what you know. >> edited article that they act like the. first article didn't exist and. >> Right. >> kept the same date and everything else. Like tell me what your thoughts are. behind this and let's talk a little bit. about the credibility of what they're. saying about Erica. Have you ever seen. Erica go on a tirade, start crashing. out? >> Never. Never. That's not That's not her MO. I. have a lot of thoughts about this to be. honest with you, Gary. Um. first and foremost, that's not Erica.

People who know Erica and if you notice, people actually came on against this. podcast who just recently met me and. said there's no way that that she would. have done this. And that's how you know. you have a consistency of character. Erica would never She doesn't curse. She. doesn't say those things. She And she. still to this day has never said. anything bad about about Candace or. anyone involved in this at all. >> That's literally not true. She came out. dressed like an assassin and. name-checked me and accused me of.

accusing her of killing her husband, uh which was meant to invite hate toward. me. I mean, the entire reason her PR. thing fell apart was because Erica has. been signaling to for people to attack. me. Stop. Just stop name-checking me in. questions that were pre-approved. uh by Barry Weiss, which she knew was. going to happen. So, it it's just it's. so obvious that she's lying. Uh and she comes out when she says that, and like I said, she has a history of. lying. This Tracy, I had a. perfectly nice conversation I wish I had. recorded it because I would it was so.

nice. And the next thing I know, she was. out there pretending like I was cussing. her out on the phone. Nope, just told. her how I felt about Erica and things. that I thought were strange and asked. her opinion about why she didn't find it. strange that Erica was being caught in. so many lies that she knew about. That's. it. And so, there's your answer. I'm still. challenging. uh Andrew Kolb to get that article. removed. Get the person to come out and. apologize. They should have their There. should be a full retraction issued. If.

what you are saying is true and they are. attributing quotes that are not real to. Erica's family friend. It was a, as I understand it, a an. attempt to show the public that she was. strong and that she was not going to. take it and for her to come out swinging. and it backfired and then they moved to. Darvo tactics. That's what she's doing. It's Darvo tactic to then pretend that I. was the person who attacked myself. We. have Turning Point in a very good spot. Okay? This is we want them to go mask.

down and to reveal their character and. to keep telling such implausible lies. like this because it's turning more. people against them. It is. It's making. people realize what they are capable of. because that was just like I was like, are you kidding? When I woke up I'm like. they're saying I was behind the article. calling myself the B-word? Calling. myself a soulless ghoul? Yeah, that's not that's not going to. earn you any friends in media. It's just. not. Moving on from that, I did also want to. show you guys this clip talking about.

how the truth is spreading and I can. guarantee you next week is going to be. an explosive week. But Rob O'Neill, we. didn't show the full clip of him on. Newsmax and I also wanted to get him. talking about what was going on in the. rooftop and this screwdriver that is. just bothering me the more and more I. think about it. Take a listen. >> Well, I'm just saying, I mean the. screwdriver that probably wouldn't have. worked to take it apart or put it. together in the first place was left on. the rooftop anyway. So, he jumped off. the roof and put it back together.

without the screwdriver that probably. didn't work anyway. Put it back. together, wrapped it up, and put it. nicely in a bunch of trees and then ran. off and started texting someone like. English was a second language. I mean. the whole thing is just shady. A 30-aught-6 30-caliber invented in '06. it's a 1906 to to kill big game and if. you hit something in the spine, especially a human, I've shot ballistic. gel all the time. I've never shot a. human with 30-aught-6, but I know it it. would do a lot more than that. If it was. just a 30-aught-6 shooting, too, that. went left to right, not from front to. back. You can clearly see an exit wound.

on Charlie Kirk's left-hand side. And. then it just is the. Why are we supposed to believe. everything we see on on TV? Shut up, believe it, that's the narrative. No, it's not. I'm SEAL Team 6 sniper from. the sniper school in 1998. I'm telling. you. >> Just fantastic. I love what he says. texting like it's English is his is. second language because that's exactly. what it was. Too formal. When you learn. a language, you always learn it super. formal. It's not the way people speak. amongst each other, and and it looks. like someone just hit Google Translate, and it came out like they were speaking. the Queen's English, which obviously.

registered to the public as strange. And. so, it is good that we are finally. reaching critical mass. I think we. actually always were critical mass, but. that more people are feeling emboldened. to speak out. And, you know, I just I do. have to say I I just feel like Charlie's. with us. I do. I feel. like he's fighting with us. And that's. why this is not going away, and he's. working just as hard as he always did. Now, I have to read you this comment. that shook me to my core. yesterday on YouTube. I'm not getting.

involved beyond this. I'm just saying. that it caught me off guard because I. had sort of peripherally understood that. there was some drama going on with this. suicide of Ellen DeGeneres, the talk. show long-time talk show host no longer. on air. She had a DJ named Twitch that. worked on her show, and he committed. suicide, allegedly, um in a hotel room. And somebody commented this on YouTube, "There were. so many similarities with Twitch's case.

Mormon wife who chased him at dancing. events until he marries her. The family. iced out. Mysterious death. His family. asked to sign an NDA to attend the. memorial. Uh the wife back at work and. in business mode a few days later making. deals and publishing books." And notes. they put here, uh "Then I find out that. Alice Allison grew up in Orem, Utah, and. gradu- graduated from Timpanogos High. School in 2006.". I was like, "What?

Is this I'm reading the comments, and. I'm going, "Is this real? Did she Did she grow up in Orem, Utah?". And sure enough, she did. Just a quick background on the case, just keeping it factual. Twitch died in. 2002 at a motel less than a mile from. his house from a self-inflicted gunshot. wound. He checked in to the Oakhaven Inn. and his body was discovered by motel. staff on Tuesday. He checked checked in. on a Monday. The body was discovered on.

a Tuesday when they entered his room. He. was just 40 years old and he was. pronounced dead at the scene just after. 11:00 a.m. and an autopsy report. confirmed, this is what's crucial, that. there were no drugs or alcohol that was. found in his system at the time of. death. TMZ went around and spoke to motel. staffers who said that he didn't appear. to be in any sort of distress. He wasn't. visibly upset, nothing. And the staffers. also said that no one even heard the. gunfire at any point during his stay, which is plausible it's possible, of. course, given the motel's layout. It.

does have separate units and it's. structured like a U. But according to. law enforcement and multiple news. reports, he left a note alluding to past. challenges and led investigators to. conclude that the death must have been a. suicide. Now, what made people, and I. remember seeing this build online of. people who didn't like the widow, uh was that despite him having no drugs. in his system, she then gives an. interview and says that she found. um a cornucopia of substances like.

mushrooms and pills that she wasn't. aware that he was taking. She said this. after he committed suicide that she. found it hidden in his shoe boxes. Anyway, I'll let you take a listen to. that piece of the interview that really. sent some people. >> I had dealt with an ex that had. addiction problems and then I realized. Steven had addiction problems and it's. something that I kind of I've been like, "What what where was I involved in. this?" And I had to take some steps for. myself to realize like, you know, I I I was able to help one and.

I I wish I could have been that for the. other. And but it's also not my job to. do that. There was a a moment I was with. one of my really dear friends and we. were cleaning out the closet. um, and picking out an outfit for him for. the funeral. And it was a really triggering moment. for me because there was a lot of things. I discovered in our closet that I did. not know existed. Um, and it was, um, very alarming to me to learn that. there was so much happening that I had. no clue. Um, so that was, it was a really scary.

moment in my life to figure that out. But it also helped me process that he. was going through so much. And he was hiding so much, and there. must have been a lot of shame in that, and. he was wrestling with a lot inside. himself, and he was trying to. self-medicate and cope with all those. feelings cuz he didn't want to put it on. anyone. Cuz he loved everyone so much. He didn't want any other people to take. on his pain. But it was very alarming. and scary to find those things and have. never known.

>> Painting your husband as a drug addict. who was found with no drugs in his. system and who nobody knew, uh, had a. any drug habit and just saying you were. the one who found it. It's a It's a. move. It's a move. I think I said he died in 2002. I meant. to say 2022. This is all very recent, and he also died without a will. Uh, she filed a petition for half of his. estate in April. A judge signed off on. her request. She was granted her. property passing rights as a result of. the ruling. And, um, according to.

California law, the surviving spouse has. the right to request half of her late. partner's assets if they were married at. the time of their death. Twitch's mother and younger brother, however, did speak out, and they sat. down with Gayle King on CBS. So this is. why it was turned into a massive thing. cuz the family was like, "She's not. acting right." And I'll just, you know, let me just say. that it is true that at Charlie's. actual, uh, Catholic mass burial, which. was the day before the memorial event,

that Erica made her own family members. and everyone present sign NDAs. That's. what I was told. And similarly, uh. the same thing was done here and this is. what Twitch's family told Gayle King on. CBS. Take a listen. >> We were, you know, trying to. figure out what we were going to do or. what she wanted to do in terms of plans. and then I got a phone call. saying. "We need you guys to sign non-disclosure.

agreements.". And we were like, "Why? What's going on? What What is this for?". And. she says, "Well, somebody in the family. has sold a story. to a magazine.". And. we were like, "What are you talking. about? Who Who did this?". And she said, "Granddad.". And that's Stephen's grandfather. And.

now, if you know my dad, he is the most respected. >> Mhm. >> the most integrity. Would never do that. So, a magazine did call him and in the. throes of grief, my father answered the. phone and they asked him. >> questions. >> Right. And he's answering right. He's. answering the questions and, you know, saying, "We're grieving. We don't know. what happened." Whatever the answers. were. But. it was at that point that it became.

"You guys are doing this.". "We need you to sign this.". And we were like, "No, that is not. true." And that's kind of where it. started. It. >> So, that's when the friction started. asking for the NDA. >> It went downhill from there. >> You were asked to assign an NDA to go to. the funeral? >> It It became. "If you don't sign, you will not be able to see him and you. will not be able to participate.".

>> I I tell you that she did do a book. tour. She did release a book. uh February of 2024, a short time after. It was her story of love, loss, and. embracing the light. And once again, she. told the public that he was secretly. struggling with addiction and past. sexual abuse. from a male figure in his life. That is one thing to put on the streets. after your husband dies in a suicide. Now, members of Twitch's family said. that they were blindsided by the claims.

that she made. And she also released a. children's book that she said that she. co-authored with Twitch just before he. died. And that was called Keep Dancing Through. Boss Family Groove. I mean, in 2025 in September, uh Connie, who is. Twitch's mother, filed a petition for. grandparent visitation against Allison. alleging that her relationship with her. grandchildren has. changed following her son's death, describing it as unilateral and. retaliatory decision by the dancer.

In 2026, the case was dismissed by a. judge. Um so, I guess they will just not. be able to see too much of their. grandparents. We'll see. Um but I just. had to tell you this astounding story. Just I I when I found out this is Mormon. Utah, I was just like, this is crazy. And I do see a lot of the similarities. in the story. I'm not speculating. anything, but I am saying that's a move. This is book publishing. It's always. like, what it's like a. formula or something. It's crazy. Um I will just leave it at that. Um.

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All right, you guys, top comment from. yesterday's episode came from the Fitch. family. They wrote, "The comical part is. everyone says, 'Candace doesn't have one. shred of evidence, yet she has the most. evidence so far presented by anyone, including the FBI.' It is crazy how much. we have released that the public did not. have access to from photos inside of the. SUV um to releasing text messages, you. know, us being the one that showed he. said he was leaving the Pro Rodeo cause. And no matter what, they just say she. has no evidence. And then we finally get.

brought to the preliminary hearing where. we're supposed to be overwhelmed by. evidence and they give us nothing. Nothing. Not one thing that I was forced. to retract on the basis of what we saw. on the preliminary hearing. In fact, it. led to even more questions. And it is we. have a lot more coming. We have a lot. more coming. I can promise you guys. that. One Glazed Donut wrote, "Candace, your audience does not have to be. bought. We actually choose to watch you. every day. No one forces us to. They are. the grifters." Yes, I I totally agree.

that they are the grifters and it's just. crazy to me that they tried to present. it like I tried to profit off of. Charlie's death. It's exactly what they. were doing. Again, going back to that. Darvo psychological attack. Exactly what. they were doing they tried to accuse me. of doing. They're like, "Let's just. Let's say Candace is benefiting off of. Charlie's death." Yeah, who cares if no. one will remember the tent, the. microphone that was in the case, um us. literally raising $40 million, approximately $40 million in one night. as Erica posed next to the bloody I. mean, no one will remember anything. We'll just say, "Uh forget the t-shirts.

that went into a for-profit business.". Uh. uh the influencers the the we'll just. say. that's Candace that's making money for. doing what she's always done, uh her. podcast. Been podcasting for years. This. is what I do. Nothing Nothing has. changed. Uh my focus obviously has. changed because I watched my friend get. assassinated and I'm watching the people. who are the closest to him lie about. even the most mundane facts. of his existence, who his friends are, who his enemies were, what he was.

fighting, what pressure he was under. And. the deep irony here is that they had. just been forthcoming, no one would have. thought anything was weird. Like if they were just like, "Yeah, you. know, he was really angry in the end. about the pressure he was under of the. donors and he was really venting. He was. done with the Pro Rodeo cause." If Vivi. had just stayed home and chilled, if. Seth Dillon admitted that he had. pressured him in the Hamptons as he. does, I have been morally blackmailed by. Seth Dillon, and Charlie me spoke about. that. I have messages to that effect. Um yeah, then people I I would have.

thought nothing was suspicious or needed. further prodding, but they can't tell. the truth about anything. They can't. even tell the truth about articles that. they are planting. I'll leave a small percentage for maybe. if Tracy Martin was the one who, as I'm. told, was behind this article, maybe. there's a chance that Andrew Breitbart. didn't get the email question somewhere. They do sometimes send them to weird. inboxes. I've told you that. They'll. send it to like my info box asking for. comment. But there's no way he couldn't. just pick up the phone and call Erica. and say, "Hey,

Tracy's Did Tracy give me these comments. to the Daily Mail?" And Erica should. have said, "Yes," because she was. And. Erica knew that. Unless Tracy did it behind Erica's back. I don't think she did. Allegedly. I don't think she did. Anyway, um more comments on today's. episode. Ooh, my computer has frozen, so. just kidding. Um that's so weird. Hold. on, let me just hit refresh here. Oh. wait, no, I'm just actually in the wrong. spot entirely. It's actually not frozen.

Coleman writes, "Candace, watch Once. Upon a Time in America. It is a movie. about the Jewish mafia." Thank you for. letting me know about that. I have never. heard about that, but I have definitely. been doing a lot of reading, and it is. real, and it is terrifying how much we. have been lied to about that. Uh Sarah Marie writes, "I do believe the. Holy Spirit works through Charlie, and. that same spirit is working through. Candace. May our dear Father, which holy. name is Jehovah, secure Mrs. Owens in. all of her endeavors in the name of. Jesus Christ. Amen. I I Like I said, I. feel good right now. I feel positive.

about. what I always sense, which is that all. of these lies are going to be revealed. regarding Charlie's death, and I sense. that we are making progress in the panic. and the effort and the extremities the. the lies that they are telling I mean. just such extremes right now. Uh that you're going is this real? Are. you bringing influencers into the. courtroom? That's not a good that's not. a good PR move obviously. Why are you. doing that? There's a desperation that.

I'm sensing right now and I just want to. also keep encouraging you guys to keep. fighting keep sending me information. keep sending me tips. and I'm grateful to everyone who has. thus far I can I can sense that. camaraderie. All of us are in the foxhole with. Charlie now. Dan writes Candace thank you for. everything that you do. You have been a. pivotal voice for a lot of people and I. know that that comes with an incredible. amount of pressure. I want to remind you. that your work is appreciated and that. many people are grateful for your. courage. Stay strong we are rooting for. you. Thank you so much Dan for that gift. and.

I I'm rooting for all of us to win. I. just feel the devil always overplays his. hand and the devil definitely overplayed. his hand with the assassination of. Charlie Kirk. There's that. Renee writes for your lawsuit fund. Yeah, it does feel like it's coming. It I. definitely will say once I started. realizing that all of the accounts the. stuff that Charlie and I are talking. about the typical people are starting to. talk about. Sandy Hook I was like oh they're they're. going to go for this. They're. they want me hung hung you know. They. want me hung.

So thank you for that for your lawsuit. fund. Thank you for showing up for. Charlie. You have built an amazing. community. Much love and support from. everyone around the world praying with. and for you. Christ is king. Yeah, I mean if this is the this this is. my hill to die on. so to speak. not allowing the. murder of my friend to happen in broad. daylight and go unchecked and then the. lies to be told and to watch everything. he built for be destroyed and reversed. overnight. If that feels like something.

worth fighting for that feels that feels. like there's such a a sin right now that. I've since we're all carrying like the. whole world is carrying the sin of. Charlie's assassination. The memory of watching that video and. what was done and it it has to be. cleansed. It has to be cleansed with and. the only thing that can cleanse it is. truth. Everyone needs to know exactly what. happened that day and who was behind it. It's the only way it works. And there are so many of us right now.

There are so many of us right now and. we're not quitting and we are just. I'm just so focused on this topic and I. think that that they didn't expect that. Of course they didn't expect that. No, no way. Real Seth Rando writes, "Candace, I love. what you are doing. Keep fighting. We. all have a part to play in exposing. corruption." Indeed we do. Carbon. writes, "Three things. When I first. started watching you years ago, I. thought Ben was your husband. So sorry.". Yeah, I'm going to accept that apology, but I'm really not happy with you. I would just like to take 5 seconds here. to be really angry at you.

Catholics, I'm going to forgive you. I'm a little angry. Two, I joined the Daily Wire because of. you and I left when you left. And three, I have new grand 3-month-old named. Charlie. Keep fighting." Oh, congratulations. Still really angry at you, but not at. little Charlie. So sweet. Congratulations. Brooke writes, "I'm so. grateful for my weekdays with your. platform. Thank you for refusing to let. Charlie be forgotten and for staying. committed to uncovering the truth. We.

appreciate you more than you know. Christ is king and Ben Shapiro is still. fake and gay." And also dangerous, I. would add there. Like people that fixate. like that, it's like there's some. there's like a disorder or something. He can't just go away, you know, just go. away. You have more money, connections. Just go live a nice life. And let people think what they want to. think. Too much anger and I think that that. comes up with how they are raised. And I. do think he genuinely believes that he's. chosen.

Um. and maybe he is, but it's certainly not. by God. Right? I I don't think that people are. chosen by God to behave like that. And. yeah, I think that's sort of. brainwashing, going through the same. kind of psychology, which is the point. of them being raised. They think you're. so special, you're so special, everything is yours. He They don't even know. They're not. even aware of their own brainwashing. They don't They don't are not aware. um. that hell is real. It's really real.

I wouldn't want to. live like that. Um. and know that. I could face that eternal sentencing. And they do it unflinchingly. Jennifer writes, I completely support. you, Candace. Go Max Christ is king. Ali. writes, I love your pods with Tom Woods. and Scott Horton. They made a history. curriculum design for homeschooling. We. also need a pod with Larry Johnson. You. would love Larry. He's a funny grandpa. who's ex-CIA and doesn't trust the Fed. slop CK narrative. I will be sure to. check him out. Auntie Leash writes,

"Yesterday's episode, my takeaway was. Howard Hughes was manipulated into. isolation, tortured till he handed over. his fortune, murdered, and then painted. as a madman to the public. It sounds familiar. Where have we seen. this pattern before? Everywhere. Actually, uh especially in. Hollywood. I just I just go back and how much I. used to believe it, and maybe that was. all of us having sort of this parasite. and believing the tabloids and believing. what they said about people. This. person's crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy cuz. they're trying to get you That's how the.

parasite works. It's They're trying to. drive you crazy. And that's why it's so. important to have strong, stable, fortified people in your life. That's. what Charlie was to me. And when I was. going through that, I was 40 weeks. pregnant when they were doing it to me. And um. No, you can't say you're crazy. You. can't say genocide is wrong. What's. wrong with you? What's wrong with you? Oh my god, I love you. Why would you say. this? I hate to see you go this way. What's wrong with you? And And then. you're going, "Am I seeing correctly? Was genocide always wrong?". And you have to have people like. Charlie. And And that's why I wanted to. show that message of just this is what. they're doing. This is happening. You're.

going to fight through this. Do not. quit. That's what they're trying to get. you to do. Like, he was that person to. me, and I was also that person to him. We had each other's backs, and we still. do have each other's backs, you know? Uh Charlie died, I'm riding. It was. always a a ride or die situation, and um. it. he's is still with us. I want you guys. to know that. He really is. We have merch available on our website. Oh, I forgot one comment. Uh Better Love.

wrote, "There's an obvious war against. truth and knowledge. You can't speak the. truth, nor can you know about any. history that does not fit a narrative. Never stop fighting this evil. We will. always stand with you. There will be. justice for Charlie." Totally agree. There will be justice for Charlie. Um as you guys know, the easiest way to. support us is merch. You can go on the. website, buy yourself a mug, buy. yourself a stainless cup, buy yourself a. t-shirt, buy yourself um a battle bun. I. think that's a magnet. Nope, it's a logo. sticker. Uh and yeah, easiest way, obviously. Um we will always keep that. up. Of course, the CIA hats, essential.

We've been amazing, by the way. This is. the first time there's ever been an open. investigation that has produced so much. And like I said, there is more to come. There is more to come, more around the. corner, and it is because of everyone. around the world doing the right thing. And the more that Turning Point does the. wrong thing, the more people realize, "Okay, I don't. know. what's going on, but I know that they. are not good people.". So, don't be discouraged when you see. that sort of stuff, when you we see. Andrew lying in the way that he has. Be. encouraged because it's awakening more.

people uh. to. diabolical diabolical nature. of some people. Pray Pray for Andrew Kolbenschlag, genuinely. Like I said, I don't I don't. hate these people. I hate what they've. done. Sure, but I don't hate them. I don't. have that in me. I don't want to I don't. want to join them in that. I and I would. still, like I always say, I would still. sit down with them because I've the. beginning of this, all I've ever wanted. are clear answers. And we just can't seem to get them. Anyway, you guys, also on the website, we do have that documentary I told you.

about, the Vulnerable People Project, which talks. about that last community, the last um. uh Catholic Human Rights organization. that just got back from the West Bank, where they filmed the last Christians, 2,000-year-old community that is facing. settler violence. So, it's in the same. vein as this, the IDF intimidation, the. threat of erasure. The documentary is. up. If you head to Club Candace, you can. go watch that, Faith Under Occupation. We'll see you guys not tomorrow, we'll. see you on Monday.

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