DEAD OR ALIVE: Who Betrayed Charlie Kirk? | Ep 245

I just want to say that I feel like at  the beginning of this investigation, I was very clear. I said there will be no  fakeness and there will be no gayness in. this investigation. And apparently there were some  people who did not take me seriously or literally. because there are a lot of little lies being told,  right? Charlie gets assassinated and the very. people who were threatening him reputationally  and financially are now trying to memorialize.

him as having died as a friend of Israel. Okay,  challenge accepted. All lies will be revealed and. we're going to help reveal those lies. Also,  yesterday we asked for the public's help in. identifying two individuals who Phil Lyman's  nephew described as his close friends who. decided to retrace the path of Charlie's killer.  And what we have discovered thus far is absolutely. stunning. This story couldn't get any crazier. By  the way, I did speak to Phil Lyman and I'll tell.

you what he told me and what he insisted that we  clarify. Now, I would say that it's getting weird, but honestly, right from the jump, it's  been weird. So, welcome back to Candace.

[Music]. It took him a little over two weeks, but now  BB Netanyahu with maybe a little help from. Turning Point USA, I'm thinking, is releasing  the letter, the May love letter from Charlie. Kirk to Israel. Just out of nowhere, he  was just overcome with love for Israel, and he decided to write this love letter uh to the  prime minister about how they could fight harder, how they commit themselves further to the  Israeli cause. We're going to get to that and. we're just going to slaughter that narrative  that Charlie died pro-Israel. But first,

I want to jump right back into what we uncovered  yesterday to keep you guys focused. I presented to. you guys in short that the gubernatorial candidate  Phil Lyman was a bit, in my opinion, too involved. uh in the investigation of who assassinated  Charlie Kirk just he was saying and doing a. little too much. and his energy was weird and  the energy of Tiffany Barker was weird and we. were clear that's potentially just because, you  know, he's a politician or an aspiring politician.

Maybe he wants to assert himself as a leader  in Utah. This assassination has taken place. But I also felt like maybe he potentially knew a  bit more than he was letting on. Now, the Lyman. family in general was everywhere all over this  investigation. Uh, we introduced and I I said his. name was Shane. I'd like to correct that record.  His nephew Shainer Brderick who rather notoriously. retraced the footpath of the killer with his two  close friends. They were like, "Here, here it is.

The Converse footprint is right here." They even  created a map. Okay. Shainer even created a map of. where exactly uh the killer walked and the media  used his map. And of course, Phil Lyman's car was. in the driveway just 20 minutes before I Phil  Lyman uh reiterated to um Fox News, it was just. 20 minutes before I pulled into the driveway at  my aunt's house and I parked my car and then 20.

minutes later, the killer killer was limping by.  Now, I'll let you guys know that when our episode. finished yesterday, I had a message or two from  Phil Lyman, despite the fact that I had reached. out to him hours before we began our show. And he  was understandably upset. He at first was sort of. focusing his energy toward Nick, the person that  I told you worked on his campaign and just wanted. to help out in the investigation. Now, Phil would  like me to clarify that Nick never worked on his.

campaign. And by the way, I looked back and  that was actually my mistake, not Nick's. I. thought that when Nick had first introduced Lyman  to me over the phone that he said, "Oh, like I am. um you know, I'm I'm working on his campaign  and apparently that was not accurate." So, I take full credit for that. That was completely  again something that I came up with by accident. Now, the other things that he was interested in  me clarifying were also not really substantive.

issues. And I want to say that Nick having not  worked on his campaign actually makes it even. more odd that he would stop by uh his house this  past Saturday. Well, regarding why, by the way, he stopped by Nick's house at all on Saturday,  he said that it was because he was helping Nick. out early on in the investigation. Yes, that  is true. I told you guys that. And Nick was. particularly asking him to determine who owned a  white vehicle that was parked in the neighborhood,

which was nearby where the shooter had walked.  Nick lives nearby. And everyone locally had had. looked at this vehicle and said that it was  remarkably suspicious. And Phil had come back. to him and said, "I can help you just figure out  more about this vehicle that was parked." Nick had. nothing but a picture of that. But that was over  two weeks ago. So I have no idea why that would. have anything to do with why he was stopping by  Nick's place. Obviously that car is long gone.

It's been gone. And the fact that it appeared  and then disappeared is one of the reasons why. Nick wanted somebody to look into it. So I'm not  entirely clear uh why he needed to stop at Nick's. house to speak to him and what why that would  be on his list of things to do. Now, I am told. according to a very strong source that was what  Phil Lyman was doing um in town on Saturday was. he was meeting with Tim Ballard. That's totally  random. Did not expect to hear that. Tim Ballard,

if you are not familiar with him, is formerly  of Operation Underground Railroad, which. um is a charity that is dedicated to helping  to stop human sex trafficking. I even remember, by the way, when we were all speaking about  that plane transponder that turned off that the. individuals that owned that plane were wearing an  Operation Underground Railroad t-shirt. And so, I. wasn't expecting that. I am going to reach out to  Tim Ballard. I know him. I've actually interviewed. him and I used to donate to that charity because  I was so moved by my interview with him when I was.

working for Prager University. Uh, but moving on  from that, Phil also disputes something that was. quite strange, that Shainer Broadick is his  nephew. I said, "Okay, wait a minute." Um, actually Shainer Brderick literally posted that on  his Instagram. He said, "My uncle Phil Lyman, but. Phil seems like he's trying to distance himself  for some reason from Shainer." He said, "Actually, maybe Shainer's confused. We're just cousins.  We're just We're just cousins." Okay. Okay. Well,

Shainer must have been very confused because it  was also posted on his LinkedIn as a connection. that Phil Lyman was his uncle. Uh it's probably  part of the reason politically speaking that. um he was chosen for an internship uh with Senator  Mike Lee of Utah. I I feel like that was a little. bit of political maneuvering. So, I'm not clear  why that he's suddenly saying that it's not his. nephew. Anyway, it's not up to me. I'm not  here to get into the middle of a family feud.

But something interesting happened since our ep  episode. Shainer completely wiped his LinkedIn. page. Doesn't want to know doesn't want to know  who he's connected to. He's also completely wiped. his Facebook page entirely. And regarding  his Instagram, he's privatized it, but he. privatized it and then removed all of the photos  of his investigation uh into who Charlie Kirk's. killer was. Now, that's not that doesn't make  any sense to me. I don't understand that. I can't. make sense of why um you would just move to delete  everything when I reached out to you uh as opposed.

to speaking to me about where you were, why you  shot this video and maybe sending me that video. in general. Um but again, that is now a dead end.  Now, I asked Phil Lyman three times via text um. whether or not he could help us, more importantly,  identify the two individuals that were in the. photo with his nephew or cousin, if you will.  and he was kind of pretending to be confused. about what photo in particular I was referring to  despite the fact that I sent it multiple times in.

the text chain. And then finally he said that  he had no idea who those two individuals were. at all. I thought that's interesting. This is  allegedly your nephew cousin. You guys are all. chilling on this block around the same time. He's  with these two individuals. You've never heard of. them. You never seen them? Nothing. Because uh I  got to identify that guy in the blue hat. Many of. you figured out, by the way, and and wrote to the  tips box exactly what we were interested about in. that person with the blue hat. Uh you noticed the  same thing that we noticed. He kind of resembles,

certainly more so than Tyler Robinson does, the  blurred image of the individual that was coming. up the stairs. I I couldn't look away from that.  I was going through the photos and I was going, hm, I would just like to quick quickly identify  that individual and check him off and just know. where he was because yeah, I it looks to be  about the same height. It's weird. Oddly, this is when I say oddly, I mean this has  never happened in the history of all of our.

investigations. No one emailed us to say that they  knew either of those two individuals. either the. blonde that's with Shainer or the person that is  wearing the blue hat that is with Shainer. I said, "That's weird. Nobody in the whole wide Candace  Owens universe of investigation." It was making. me believe maybe those two individuals are like,  I don't know, from overseas. Like maybe they're.

not even American. And it turns out, yeah, we were  able to identify one of those individuals in the. photo and he is Austrian. It's no wonder nobody  recognized him. I mean, what Austrian? What's. this Austrian guy doing? How did we get here?  Anyways, his name is Gerno. and we were able. uh to find that his face matched with photos  from a blog post that was written in German. Um that was basically entitled anniversary hike  10 years on foot to the sea. The blog is about.

a group of 30-year-olds who are recreating a  hike that they took together when they were. 20. Um now I don't even know if I'm saying his  name right. Gno Gernot. I guess it's a it is a. uh it is a common name in Austria. And there are a  few photos of him uh that were available. We were. able to find his face also matched up in a YouTube  video for a company called Bearing Point where he.

is seen with a group of people and is introduced  as one of their software development teams. um a member of one of their software development  teams. So let's take a listen to that clip from. YouTube. This is the Bearingpoint office  in Gratz. This is where Bearingpoint's key. technology competencies are concentrated.  This is one of our software development. teams. Some people are managers and some are  not. It doesn't matter. It's all one team. Very recently, he moved to Utah. According to  his LinkedIn, which I hope doesn't get wiped.

I'd love to get in touch with him. In May of  2024, he moved to Utah to become a software. engineer for JP Morgan and Chase. And I guess  the story goes that he became best friends with. Shainer Broadick. I don't know. We'll find  out. Now, what about the other guy? Right. So yesterday we were kind of poking fun at the  narrative that Phil Lyman seemed to be trying to.

spin, suggesting that quote unquote Gothic girls  might have been suspicious that they maybe could. have been responsible or aware at least that the  shooting was going to occur. That was a part of. his story. He saw these Gothic girls and they  did they seem un unfased in all of the chaos, you know. And I thought that was an interesting  way to describe someone as Gothic. Gratefully, Phil Lyman did send us footage of him after the  shots rang out. And I am saying shots plural for a.

reason uh because we will show you that video. But  first, I want to recap what specifically Phil said. publicly about where he was when the shots rang  out because I vaguely remembered him painting a. picture that he was outside. Uh that certainly  seems to be what he told both Alex Jones and. uh News Nation that he was outside when the shot  rang out. Let's take a listen to what he said on. Alex Jones. Just yesterday, someone comes in,  he says, "Yeah, uh we we've got video. He came.

off the roof. He walked up. He came up here to  the uh parking lot, got in the car with with an. individual and they and they drove away." Well,  that's not the story that came. So that he that. he escaped another route and there there's there  are people who are coordinating this thing. I I. do not believe that that 306 that they showed  recovered in the bushes was ever on the roof. I. think it was in the bushes to start with. And now  I'm not saying that that Tyler Robinson wasn't on. the roof. I'm not saying he didn't pull a trigger.  Uh I know was I was in very very close proximity.

So another interesting thing, like I say, I I  left the front of the stage. I wanted to meet. some of my friends and bring him down front. So  I was clear at the east end and I heard this loud. boom. I heard this loud bang and I turned around.  I'm looking like, "What was that? What was that?". and and um pretty soon some people started, you  know, running. Everyone was trying to process and. I thought, "This is a gunshot." And there's going  to be more of them. I thought it could turn into. a mass shooting. So, I go to the people closest  to me. Everyone's ducking down behind the the. concrete uh retaining walls. And some of them were  still kind of oblivious, but there were two people.

that were standing there. Uh two girls, very goth,  very black, you know, and and I just walked I. stepped up to the side of them. I said, "Did that  not happen right here? Did Did you hear that? was that right here? They said, "Yeah, it was  just right over there." So, they're confirming, "Yeah, the shooter or or wherever that sound came  from is right here." The thing that didn't really. dawn on me is that they were not running. They  were not frightened. In fact, as I stepped up, I heard one of the girls um and they were talking  to each other and they're looking at these kids,

looking at the scene down below of all these  people fleeing for their lives. And she says, "Go f yourselves." Um and uh and and like I  say, I was not processing that. I was trying to. figure out what was going on. I thought this is a  separate conversation. I don't know what it is. In. hindsight, as I've watched that over and over,  it's like these these people were not afraid. Okay. And on News Nation, I want you to listen  carefully because he at first says that he was. about to walk into the building and the shot rang  out, but then he says he ran out of the building.

after the shot rang out. So, let's take a listen  to that. I walked up top. I had to go meet some. people. So, I said, So, I was down there when he  started his when he started talking. I thought, I'm going to go up top and meet some of the  people. So, I got up clear up on top and I was. just coming around the corner walking into one  of the buildings and I heard a loud bang that. I thought was right behind me and I turned around  looked at the the girl that was there and she was. kind of looking stunned like what was that and  I'm looking at her and then see a little bit of. commotion. I realized right then it's a gunshot.  So, so I ran out uh the people running into the.

building. I ran out to see who it was. You I'm  thinking this is this is a lot of kids out here. And and then pretty, you know, a few minutes later  then the police were running saying, "Did anybody. see? Did anybody see?" I think it was on the roof  above me. I really uh is is the only thing I could. figure because it's like he has to it had to have  been very very close to where I'm standing. And. in hindsight, I think it was probably above me on  the roof. Okay, so a couple of those statements. are what I would describe as little lies. Um,  well, they're just not true because at 12:23,

according to his metadata, because he sent it  to me, Bill Lyman was inside of the building and. he must have then immediately, according to our  timeline, hit record and he didn't run. He calmly. walked out of Sorenson building. I hope I'm saying  that right, the Senson building. And he wasn't the. only one that was walking calmly. And I'm not,  by the way, none of these people are suspicious. to me. Walking calmly because they're inside the  building, not really sure what they heard perhaps, and they're all kind of walking calmly out.  And I'm going to show you that footage. And.

to be clear, you're going to see two girls  that are simply wearing black. By no stretch. of an imagination would I refer to these girls  as gothic. Uh, actually, I think one of them. is actually a guy, but they're wearing black, not  dark makeup. There's just black. And he asks them, what I can hear audibly is he asks them, "What was  that?" Uh, so I I don't know how certain he was. that it could have been a shooting, but we're  I'm going to let you watch it first and then.

we're going to try to clean up the audio. Now, if  you're listening to this on a podcast and you're. not be able to watch this, you might want to turn  this down uh because it is visual. Take a look. So you can just sort of see everyone on up top.  A couple of people were actually out there are. ducking. He was on the inside. Like I said,  this was at 12:23. So he was inside, walked out,

and then he's going to start a conversation  with two people that are just wearing black. And then you see he continues if he digs on for  like three minutes and he just he just sort of. walks down and he engages in a conversation with  those two girls and they answer him. Doesn't. there's nothing here that seems to me to be  controversial. Um when he hears them say something.

about FU, it's before he has a conversation  with him. It does happen. Uh take a listen. trying to isolate this audio for you guys. Those  those are the two girls he's talk talking about. [Music]. You see where that came from? It was right  here, wasn't it? It was like over here. Yeah.

So, he says, "Did you see where that came from?"  It seems like a normal conversation. Kind of weird. for me. And there's a reason why I'm saying that.  to hone in on these two individuals and to say. like gothic um and to pretend that they were doing  something that looked abnormal given the fact that. in the longer video everyone up top is quite calm  because I don't think they're really entirely. sure what is happening. Uh and some of them are  ducking because maybe they saw it because they. were outside. So I wanted to get to the bottom as  I said earlier of who that second person was in.

the photo with his nephew, cousin, whatever you  want to call him. and we got just one hit and it. was honestly it was from Belfast, North Ireland,  no less. Somebody sent us an email and he said, "Look, I conducted an interview an an internetwide  search of the person's face and I only got one hit. using technology." And the the hit was in Provo,  Utah. and he wrote to me that it was quite a.

coincidence because not only is the person in  Provo for this one hit for the space, but also. uh he's featured on a website pertaining to bees  and he's like, "Didn't you just do a thing saying. that you had this weird thing about bees and you  thought there, you know, there was something else. going on?" And my goodness, you guys, I almost  jumped when I learned that that website he was. referring to, Buzzard and Bees, is a gothic  underground in Provo. Okay, so this is this. is the website. It's a Gothic underground of all  things in Provo. The website Buzzard and Bees and.

they're speaking about a gothic prom. That is  where that person's face comes up except he's. wearing makeup to make him well look a little  more gothic. Take a look at this. I'm going to. show you the side by side of this individual.  And I am certain can't say 100% okay because. we need to find this person's name. But this is a  match. Okay, the ears, the chin, just everything.

about this individual is a match. But he is as of  yet identified as a goth uh unidentified, pardon, as a gothic person. And he is also as of yet  unidentified um as the close friend of Shainer. Brderick who cannot uh be found anywhere else or  people are not familiar with this person. So I'm. thinking maybe he also came from overseas. Now,  quickly regarding our question pertaining to Mike. Mitchell, right, I was saying that it was pretty  odd and obvious that they were trying to protect.

this detective Mike Mitchell. We also learned  that he's a boy scout leader uh in the LDS church, but usually if you have a long tenure as a  police officer, you're just featured in a lot. of articles. Uh, and then we received some leads  that I think have helped to clarify exactly what. sort of a detective he was and maybe why he was  not featured in a lot of articles because he was, as it appears to be, uh, a undercover detective.  By all accounts, he was an online detective.

Apparently, if this is the correct Mike Mitchell  and given the timeline of when he becomes an. undercover detective, I have a strong hunch that  it is the right the right individual because he. says, you know, he was on the force for 25 years.  This individual began his career in 1999. Uh his. job, Detective Mike Mitchell, was to create  messages online to entra pedophiles. Okay? By.

pretending that he was underage. You guys know,  you've heard about these sorts of stings. uh you. pretend that you're underage as an officer and see  people that try to hook up with you. Um and then. you make an arrest. And so we can take a look  at this article from November of 1999. It says. uh police surf internet to snag pedophiles. And it  tells us Mike Mitchell sits at a desk tapping on a. computer keyboard and becomes a boy. He's chatting  with someone now. His words are full of typos and. misspellings and childlike phrases. Mike Mitchell  is not a boy. He is a police detective hunting for.

a pedophile. But the hunted doesn't know that.  Mitchell, a detective with the Salt Lake County. Sheriff's Office, has been investigating child  sex crimes on the internet for about a year. I. don't think people realize how big it is. He he  tells them. Okay. So, that's interesting to me. Okay. And we we can't then go, okay, let's make  a jump here. Just because he's creating messages. online first and foremost doesn't necessarily mean  that he's the person that authored the fake bed.

messages. And I and I'm implying that, but I do  actually thought it was quite interesting because. when we covered George Zinn, who was the decoy  boy that day, who then we find out is into um uh. pedophilia, right? And he gets arrested because he  has children being sexually abused on his phone. Absolutely despicable person. It really made us  wonder, again, I said this on a previous episode, whether or not he had been blackmailed in some  capacity to play the decoy boy and to give the.

shooter time to get away. I just find that to be  interesting. A lot of stuff happening right now, guys, and we are definitively getting  closer to what took place on that day, and we have a lot of leads that are coming in.  Um, and I want to say that I want to refocus your. attention and now open this up internationally  because I have a hunch on who that goth kid is. Okay. Somebody attended this goth prom in Provo,  Utah. Somebody overseas perhaps recognizes that.

person. Like I said, I would I would venture  a guess that he is not from Utah because I've. never seen uh no hits come in. Somebody saying  I went to high school with him. And um yeah, that's what I want you to focus your attention on.  tips@caniswowens.com. Again, reminding you guys, please do not send us uh because we're we're such  a small team. Please do not send us Tik Tok videos. and saying you should watch this or you know, look  at this theory. Reserve that to simply tagging our. accounts when you are on those specific apps  and uh we will pick up from there. We got to.

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candace. Um, okay guys, so let's get into this.  I mean, the attacks have not stopped. The attacks. that are coming at me are good, though, because  I am just feeling more and more energized by. them. I understand exactly what is going on. Um,  the people fighting for Charlie Kirk's legacy. I got to say this. You know what? I am starting to  think, and let me know if you think this is crazy, but I'm starting to think that the assassination  of Charlie Kirk uh was something akin to a.

reicside, right? The assassination of a king  to install a new ruler who the king would have. never approved of, right? Maybe people around him  counseling the king, people who perhaps betrayed. him. because there are just too many things that I  am finding out that are not adding up to me. Okay, there are also I do want to say this, too many  first times leading up to this event. Okay, one person who emailed me uh said, "Hey, I've  been supplying bulletproof vests to Charlie.

for all of these campus tours and suddenly last  semester, last spring, the last campus tour, they. cancelled. They canceled my contract with them.  They did not want to renew. When I asked them why, they told me that Charlie wanted to go a different  direction by getting an army vest instead, like a metal army vest, I believe, is what he  says. And he said this made no sense to me. Didn't. understand it. Okay. So, Charlie decided they  decided to use a new company, even though I don't.

think he was actually wearing a bullet vest on  that day. So, what happened there? I'm not sure. Something else that is really bothering me  just because I have done these campus tours. is the question of why Charlie was set to do  two events in Utah a mere 20 days apart. Okay, he was supposed to do UVU and then today was  scheduled to do just 20 days later USU. Now,

those two campuses are uh just under two hours  apart if you're driving. Why on earth would he. schedule these events apart? It's not how Turning  Point USA normally decides on their events. If. you're going to do uh two stops in one state, they  make it happen back to back because it doesn't. make sense uh from a fuel perspective, from a  traveling perspective for you to go in and out of. one state. Plus, they only have a limited number  of events, right? So, they want to make sure they. can go all over the United States and see as many  students as possible during every tour. This is.

how it works. I know how it works because I came  from Turning Point USA. Okay. I have toured with. them every year with the exception of this year  uh since I uh started working for Charlie. So, that just struck me as very odd. Okay. We've also  received or maybe I should say maybe not odd, just something new maybe. Uh we've also received  a lot of tips that the hospital that Charlie was. taken to is not the closest hospital and it also  would not have been the number one choice hospital.

for someone that was suffering from that sort of  a wound like it was uh a trauma 3 center. He was. taken to a smaller regional hospital that was a  little farther away and was further away and was. also less equipped for the trauma that he suffered  that he was taken to Temponogos Regional Hospital. And also something new is that that hospital had  just announced that they had a a brand new CEO.

and head surgeon named Andrew Zanger. a lot of new  stuff happening. And to be clear, typically uh the. states dictate the protocol and you're required to  after you have a certain number of attendees at an. event, you are required to have an ambulance  on standby. And I don't know Utah state law. Uh but I also found that that weird uh that there  wouldn't have been an ambulance on standby. Again, correct me if I'm wrong. Uh but seemed atypical to  me. Now, in terms of other things that were new,

they announced uh on that same day that Andrew  Zanger was announced as a new CEO, that was also. the day that they announced Charlie's tour. They  announced five dates and two of them were in Utah. uh dispersed throughout the month. And it is also  interesting to know that the Utah FBI also got a. brand a new set of employees, the state FBI  department. Cash Patel went ahead and fired. not only the chief of the Utah bureau uh but also  some other people. You can see this in the Daily.

Mail article. They recount this after Charlie's  death. Cash Patel questions grow as it's revealed. he gutted the Utah FBI leadership before Charlie  Kirk's assassination. That is true. He fired the. chief among other people and replaced her with  Robert BS in in August. I think Robert Bulls. actually it was his first week uh when Charlie  got shot and he's somebody who has been in DC for. decades. So seems to me to be an unusual placement  to then want to reup your entire life assuming.

you have a wife and kids and move to Utah. But  whatever. Again everything just feels a little too. brand new to me. Then I speak to the individual  who I told you guys that I recognized that had. taken down the cameras minute what was it minute  four after Charlie was shot. the back camera of. all the ones when you take the front camera.  I don't know. Again, I'm not here to read into. how people might act in an emergency event, but I  thought it was weird that he was there in general, actually, that he was behind Charlie the entire  time. I've never seen that. He's never been behind.

me at an event. He's never been lingering around  me at an event. And I asked about that. I asked. about just his presence behind Charlie. Um, and  plus the mysterious phone call that he was seen. making in like minute three after Charlie uh was  assassinated. And he he told me explicitly that. they were trying something new that day. Like it  was something new. Charlie's super ambitious. And. on the AV thing, they were trying something  new and they wanted to be able to feed it.

back instantly uh to Arizona. None of it makes  sense to me because these events are typically. live streamed. But again, something new. Okay, so  let's stick with that theme. Do you want to know. something else that was brand new leading up to  this event? Charlie's perspective on Israel. Okay, so let me say this so you can hear it. Charlie  Kirk's perspective on Israel was not starting. to shift. It had shifted entirely. Okay, there are  no ifs and there are no ands and there are no buts.

about it. Israel knew that. Turning Point USA knew  that because Charlie was explicit. So my question. is, why isn't Turning Point USA making any  statements and shutting down this repeat attempt. by Israel to lie and to pretend that towards the  end Charlie was just authoring love letters to. Israel, giving them a perspective of here's how we  can win uh the prop. Here's what you guys need to.

do. You need to work with this hell, whatever it  is. You have the same people that are calling me. anti-semitic. You need to work with those people  harder. And he was just putting it on paper. Was. it an email? What was that that they were sharing  on the New York Post? The Israeli Post, right? What were they sharing there? He wrote of his deep  love for Israel. He had nothing else to do in May. Wrote of his deep love for Israel to a letter  to Netanyahu. Netanyahu said they were close, but in the letter Charlie puts his number, which  apparently Netanyahu didn't have his number. Um, and we're supposed to believe did he send that  as an email? By the way, can somebody clarify?

Was that an email they were sharing or did he send  it in the mail to him? Could somebody share that, please? I'm assuming it was an email. Can someone  share the time stamp on that? Just kind of like. authenticate that email because I'm very aware  of what's going on. Okay. And I don't know how. the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep  at night. Okay. I don't know how you can present.

yourselves as a Christian organization and not be  dedicating yourself to the truth. No matter what. the cost is, you tell the truth. That's it. Okay?  You don't hide hide it. You don't try to obscate. it. You don't try to say, "Well, wait until wait  until the the memorial event before we start. looking into who murdered him, you tell the truth  and you tell it immediately." And I don't think. they're capable of doing that. And I have an idea  as to why that is. I think the same people that. were pressuring Charlie are pressuring them. In  fact, I know that for a fact. So, they might need. my help. Okay, I'm going to state this and um I'm  going to challenge Turning Point USA executives.

to issue a very clean statement saying that I am  lying if this is not true. About 48 hours before. Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people  at Turning Point as well as Jewish donors and. a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the  pro-Israel cause outright. Okay, Charlie was done. He said it explicitly that he refused to be  bullied anymore by the Jewish donors. Did Can.

you guys answer? Did he express that um did he  also express that he wanted to bring me Candace. Owens back because he was standing up for himself?  And then did he just 48 hours later conveniently. catch a bullet to the throat before our onstage  reunion could happen? It's a yes or a no. Okay, let's stop this ditching. Let's not the dodging.  It's like explicitly I want to hear from Turning. Point USA that I'm lying about that. I want  you to say no. No, it was just um you know,

he was feeling a little bit of pressure. No, I  want you to literally answer what I have just. said. It either happened or it didn't. I'm either  making it all up or it happened exactly as I'm. saying. And while we're at it, may I ask, what  is the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the. Hampton's weekend? Okay. and to Pastor Rob McCoy.  Um, were there any LLC's that you or your son were. being paid uh through that sat outside of Turning  Point? I'm asking that question genuinely. Yeah,

I'm putting the fire here right at the feet  of Turning Point because I am disgusted. I. am genuinely disgusted. I am looking around and  wondering whether Charlie's entire life was The. Truman Show. None of you guys are behaving in the  way that you should be behaving. Okay? There is. no way you are letting these lies fly. Unless,  as I am hearing, unless it is true that there.

was a big big big payday that was on the line.  And if Charlie radically stated that he was done. with Israel, if if Charlie said he had no choice  but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of, and I quote, Jewish donors, the behavior of  Jewish donors, if he said that, yes or no, well then I don't know, maybe maybe some people  Did it want to take that risk that he was going. to what become Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson at  Turning Point USA with all of those uh presences?

Uh so much presence across college campuses.  Maybe they didn't want to take a chance. You see, I'm just one person, so it's easy to just try  to cancel my life and lie on me every second of. every day. But Turning Point USA, I think,  got a little bit bigger than Charlie. And. I'm no longer going to allow this lie in this  narrative. So answer the questions yes or no. And I'm going to again challenge you to lie. And  uh if you do lie, I'm going to expose the lies and.

I'm going to start dropping videos actually. So  that's where I'm at. Enough of the gains. Enough. with trying to allow Israel to wrangle a narrative  that you know is not true. Charlie did not die. pro-Israel. He did not die for Israel. He did not  martyr himself as a friend of Israel. In fact, the friends of Israel were pressuring him really  badly and he was done. And he finally stood up. for himself. And I'm proud of that. And I will  say this. You know what? somewhere Charlie is. watching. Okay, and I hope he knows that uh we are  reunited. Okay, we're on stage right now and the.

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to say something nice. Please don't do that. That  just call them out on being hideous individuals. You know, when you end up in a world where like a  couple of days before Charlie Kirk dies, someone. like Laura Loomer is calling him anti-semite  and she's funded by the one of Charlie's donors, Bob Showman, who then does a 180 and is now  pretending that she is morally fighting me to. stop researching into Charlie's murder. You  know exactly what kind of world you live in. Politics sickens me. It really does. Everybody  who has a little a wish out there, oh Candace, like jump into politics. I hate these people. I  hate everybody involved in politics. It is all.

about money. Okay? They all sell their souls for  money and there are no real relationships. And I. hope that you are learning that. Um if you're  you're getting a lesson about that right now. and it's not left or right. Um I think which  is something that I learned. It is not left. or right. It is just individuals selling their  souls. Comment from Rose. Rose writes, "No matter. what videos I've seen from people on the left or  right calling you crazy, I call it faking gay. You. have my full support. Truth is all that matters in  Crisis King." Yeah, here is the thing. People know.

truth when they hear it. Okay? You know truth. You  know truth when you see it. You know when people. are lying and you can see the campaign now. It's  obvious, right? It's all the same people making. videos at the same time, posting at the same time.  people that are accepting money through an agent. of Israel somehow. I've also got contracts got  contracts as well. Um how these people are getting. paid quote unquote 501c3s dedicating themselves  to the fellowship of Christians and I mean it is.

a really disturbing market. But you would think  that following an assassination that people would. tether themselves to reality that they would say I  want to fight evil and they would therefore commit. themselves to truth. What I'm seeing right now  is just stunning. It really is. I mean, I think. um uh his name online is anomaly. AJ tweeted, "Is  this what happened after the JFK assassination? Did all of his friends uh race to say, don't  investigate. Don't investigate. Accept the.

narrative as it is. Maybe we weren't alive.  Maybe." AJ Murphy writes, "I'm a progressive. who disagrees with you on a lot, but as a fellow  Catholic, I see the Holy Spirit working through. you to find truth. We are fighting a spiritual  war against evil. The left and the right must. come together to fight authoritarianism." How to  do that? By the way, I want to say this to people. at home, take your children out of these schools.  All of them. Okay? I cannot stress this enough. Homeschool your children. Make it work no matter  what. Stop sending them to the universities. Okay? There is a real underground. It is a communist  underground. It is real. It is 100% real. It is.

not imagined. And what they want, the one resource  that these people want are your children. Simple. thing that you can do. Okay? I know it takes  a lot of adjustment. I'm waking up and I'm. homeschooling my kids. Um, and but by the way,  it's the most rewarding thing in the world. Also, it just started this week. Uh, so it's only been  for two days, but it's incredible how happy it. makes me knowing that I am I am doing something  to buck the trend as we are slipping further into.

authoritarian rule. Ashlin Bigalow writes,  "Advocating for a weekly Candace crash out. followed by, I'd like to apologize for my tone 10  seconds ago." Yeah, I'm I'm kind of Yeah, that's. I should do that. You're right. And I do I should  apologize for my tone maybe like five minutes ago. I'm trying to be more conscious, but I am h man.  I'm working on this anger. I'm working on uh just. really appreciating how fake and gay it all is.  Like I am just seeing these people just say move. on. Move on from Charlie. It's good. We're going  to accept the narrative. We're just going to let.

the FBI do what the FBI does and we're just going  to pretend these glaring obvious lies and holes. mean nothing and also work behind the scenes with  the very people that were torturing Charlie. That. is just not allowed. It's not allowed. Natalie  writes, "Canis, I am giddy af watching you today. You are on fire to your audience. Let's keep  up the prayers, y'all. Christ is king." Um, thank you so much, Natalie. I really appreciate  that and I appreciate all of your support. Marzy, um, thank you for your support. Marzy writes,  "Hey, Candace, in my super chat yesterday, I got. keyholeing and internal bullet bouncing confused."  Oh, okay. I remember that you commented about.

that. Keyholeing is if the bullet is too slow  and tumbles and has external impact. The other. is pinball bullets where they bounce internally  causing internal damage to the target. So pinball. bullets are the ones that cause internal damage.  Very interesting. Um George writes, "We love you, Candy." Oh, uh I pray the truth gets out soon.  Keep up the great work. The truth, George. It's. inevitable. It is. It's uh not fun to be a liar  because you got to squirm. And I I appreciate.

the hand that they played here. I I totally get  the hand that they played here. They are lying. Uh there have been a lot of lies that have been  told from the very beginning and the idea that. Charlie was per when he died ends today. That just  ends today. Uh HMM writes, "Please stay safe. Uh. if I buy a shirt, please don't do a Cardi B and  call me out for my triple X sizes." By the way, we. do have some new merch. You guys uh demanded this.  We're also going to make sure that you have the.

most appropriate kit on you. Uh we don't know. No,  no, but we know is the new Standis Cup that just. dropped. It's pretty good. We don't know. No, but  we know. And uh we're about to No, no, if you know. what I mean. Okay. So, you can get your Sandis  Cup available on the kennace.com website. There's. also t-shirts that are available for you. Somebody  put in request for a tank top. So, we have that. Finally getting you some kit. We'll drop more in  the future, too. Uh because that's the vibe. That.

is the vibe. Go with your gut on things. And I  loved that yesterday's episode, the number one. comment was that Charlie used to say that like go  with your gut. There's there's something there. And I'm realizing more and more, guys, like we we  have a God intuition. That is our gut. Your gut. instinct is your God instinct. And we all know  something's not right here. And the media has. never worked harder to try to tell us, "No, no,  no, no, just move along." And yeah, I proclaim. reicide. Okay? I don't like it. And we are getting  closer. So again, be uh very uh I guess careful or.

or mindful rather is a better word there. Be  very mindful if you are sending us a email to. tips@canison.com. We are still working to identify  our goth suspect is not the girl who was wearing. black but rather the person that was in the photos  with nephew cousin Brick. Um and we if you know. something please send us tips at canace.com. Uh  we will have more for you tomorrow. Some other.

stuff that I've been holding close to my chest  about where we are hearing uh Charlie's wounds. were. So I I hate to leave you on a cliffhanger. I  don't actually hate to leave you on a cliffhanger. It brings you back. And I love you guys. You guys  keep us fighting. We'll see you tomorrow. [Music].