Candace x Milo: The Rise of the Gaytriarchy | Candace Ep 234

All right, you guys. I feel like today. is a probably a very great day to. discuss homosexuality. Okay, so I grew. up in the '9s and we were taught in. school that some people are born gay. The older that I get and I speak to. people who struggle with homosexuality. or live out homosexual lives and. actually the majority of them don't. think they were born gay. They typically. will correlate their homosexuality to. some event that's happened in their. past. Well, I'm want to discuss this. theme today because virtually everything. that I'm reading right now, whether it's.

Hollywood Babylon or getting into Sigman. Freud and the history of Jewish. mysticism, there is some element of. homosexuality. Um, is this a part of an. occultic practice? Has homosexuality. been pushed upon our society because it. is disordering? Are we even allowed to. say that on YouTube? Anyways, here to. join me, Milo Yiannopoulos. Let me start. from the beginning here. >> I want to say I've never struggled with. homosexuality. I was brilliant at it. Um. from day one, but but it did occur to me.

five years ago that um hell was real and. I don't want to go. >> So you say you're a reformed or a. recovered homosexual. >> I say exgay because it sounds hilarious, but the truth. >> exgay does sound good. >> It's good, isn't it? Um uh but the the. truth is um as far as I've got so far is. celibacy. And um the good thing about. the male libido is the less you have. less you have, less you want. So, I I'm. I I never thought that I would be happy. kind of not really having sexual. activity, per se, but but but that's.

it's fine. And now I'm into the uh. messy, difficult, and um terrifying. business of casting my eye over the. female population. It's probably more. terrifying for them than it is for me. Um uh uh and and figuring out if there's. anybody there uh who who, you know, could be quiet for long enough to be my. wife. Um uh I'm just kidding, of course. But uh you know it it's it's um it has. nagged at me and irritated me uh since I. came back to my faith, the Catholic. faith. Um that I wasn't able to.

participate in that last holy sacrament, you know. Um I I was confirmed very late. in life actually. Um and it's a it's a. blessing to be able to not just remember. it, but to have had a very fancy affair. I had, you know, I had the full I had. the full Latin, you know, Institute of. Christ the King. um you know uh um they. do they do a conditional baptism. You. get exercised three times on the way. into the church. You have to get on your. knees and you go in. You go in, you go. in. So converts normally have this but. um if you have a conditional baptism. make you do this as an adult. You have.

to um uh read the Our Father and a few. other things in Latin. And then uh. confirmation is you know over very. quickly. Um, it was beautiful and it was. lovely to be able to have that as an. adult and um, it was a very important. part of my uh, return to to as close to. faithful Catholic life as I can I can. get. I think it's probably safe to say. Um, but it was bugging me that um, I wasn't able to participate in. something that everybody should. And.

there's something very magical and very. special about not just marriage but. about uh children because it is um the. time before you die before you get to. heaven where you get to uh do something. with our Lord. You get to it's called. co-procreation. Uh two people make the. baby um biologically but uh our Lord. puts a soul in there. And so. co-procation with God is, you know, you. haven't just made love with your husband. and you haven't or your wife. You. haven't just seen um you haven't just um. uh uh created a baby, but you have you.

have participated in creation with God. Like, you know, like that's huge. Um and. and it's and it's it's something that. men can do even if they can't uh um bear. children, you know, they still get to do. that. And and I don't know, I just one. one the truth is it's not a very good. answer, but it sort of crept up on me. Truth is one day I woke up and I I I I. remember the. short chain of thought I had and it's. what I said a moment ago. Hell is real. and I don't want to go. >> Just like that. >> Yeah. >> It's very interesting because like I.

said, I grew up and you learn in school, if you go to the public school system, that some people are gay, some people. are straight, and we need to normalize. homosexuality. That's why we have terms. like homophobic, which I don't know what. that means. I guess it means you're. scared of of gay people down the street. be afraid afraid of getting uh. trafficked to a homosexual couple. Homophobia is pretty rational if you're. a you're a vulnerable uh young young. foster kid or something. >> Um. >> but I think about this now and having. read I asked you to read this book ahead.

of this discussion, but having read. Hollywood Babylon and getting into. Sigman Freud and the sort of mystical. tradition, it's really interesting. because we of course have no memory of. what happened on this earth before we. were here. And I think I sort of assumed. obviously very wrongly um that there was. always this kind of current of. homosexuality in American culture. But. it actually happened quite quickly. And. beyond quite quickly, it also happened. quite intentionally when you take a look. at the establishment of Hollywood and. them thinking through how to infect the.

Christian culture in America. and and. and and that that had happened a few. different times in in different ways uh. elsewhere in the history of western. civilization. But but really really. prior to I mean prior to the middle ages. that homosexuality is sort of complet. conceived of completely differently in. the same way that races you know um uh. you know people living in 1100 would. just have no idea what we were talking. about. We were talking about somebody. being white or not white uh in in the. American way. Um but the the the.

most recent explosion of this, funnily. enough, happened in a in a way it was. kind of a test run for what the media. later did with Trump. Um the first I. think um. a full assault full media assault. uh like what they did to Trump, like. what they did on January 6th was about. conversion therapy uh in the 80s. And uh. at that time, you know, after after. maybe half a century of this stuff uh uh. you know, digging in after the 19 the. 1910s, 20s and 30s in Hollywood, you. know, um uh half a century has passed.

and people still think homosexuals are. um are are dirty and and sleazy and uh. and it's a a moral choice and this a. moral and we can't get over this hurdle. So what the campaigners um came up with. was well if it's hang on a second if. it's like being black or if it's like. being a woman then if somebody doesn't. like it they're a bigot that works. So. the um born this way mythology was. created to meet ideological objectives. out of whole cloth and it has never been.

um even remotely demonstrated by. science. the the closest that anybody. will truthfully get is say um there. appear to be some people who have some. sort of predispositions maybe um but it. is vastly more to do with nurture than. it is to do with nature and in any case. even if you are one of those people that. just pops out you know um in sequence. seeing Mariah Carey. um it is possible to overcome what our. disordered.

urges they call it unwanted samesex. attraction is I think it's the PC term. that Egyp is right with. Um it is. possible to uh even though you may be. suffering with what is a terrible curse. um not do it. >> You know what's interesting because I've. had to reconsider that my childhood. programming on this but I love I love. that you call it the born this way. mythology. That's a great way of saying. it because that's that's what it was. You're born this way. >> and mythology is propaganda. You know. it's political propaganda. >> It is political propaganda. And I think. that the the best example of that. currently because we're living through.

that is this insistence that people are. born trans and you can see how they. infect that propaganda how it starts um. and thinking about Hollywood thinking. about Hollywood how it starts with the. television screens and I am jazz was. sort of the first time that they did. this to TLC show. I don't know if you're. familiar with this and it was and they. said actually jazz is trans and it. became this cultural phenomenon got so. much coverage. >> and nobody tells you the end point and. the struggles that jazz is facing today.

and they were able to get all of these. kids. I grew up nobody was trans and now. all of a sudden you have all of these. parents who are convinced that their. children are born. >> You said it exactly right. People are. always amazed at the horrors that. parents can do to their own children, but they shouldn't be because um people. do all kinds of terrible things to their. kids. Uh you know, whether it's uh. everyday neglect or it's or it's. something more serious and more. dramatic. The trans thing uh fixed a. really big problem for the parents of uh.

gay kids or kids who show signs of those. sorts of behaviors early on uh which. lots do because the damage happens. early. fixed a big problem, which is. what did I do wrong? Because if you if. you don't have a gay child that you. messed up, but instead have a trans. child who has a problem, who has a. disease, who has a syndrome, who has. something wrong with them, then you're. off the hook. >> You're not bad parents. Um, in fact, you're victims because your kid has got. this thing that nobody would ever want. for their own child. And so you are you.

become brave and you become a hero and. you and your child becomes the crucible. in which your you know your social. anxieties about about having messed up. as a parent and made your kid gay, which. is what you did, um are are resolved and. and sanctified because um in fact all of. these kids who are seized and mutilated. uh if they were left alone would be what. we would call, you know, like gay men. Um and and if if if without the um.

without the interference, without the uh. injection into the process of these uh. crazed trans campaigners, they would. have a hope of a way out. But once. you've started chopping things off, you. create so many psychological and body. image problems that you you're no longer. just dealing with the fact that you had. an overbearing mother, an absent father, and you didn't form um uh um sustainable. platonic relationships with men as a as. a young boy, and and and something went. wrong in your head, you know, or or that.

you got raped. Uh and and and and that. and it happened because of it could. happen for any mixture or all of those. reasons. Um I had a bit of all of them. Uh once you start chopping part of that. person off, you cut them off from. salvation. You cut them off from. redemption. You cut them off from hope. Because if you can stop doing that. stuff, at least you're still you and and. and you have potential and possibility. and you could do and be anything as long. as you're still like, you know, in. possession of your health, your.

faculties, your whatever. But once you. start mutilating somebody because um uh. because parents find it easier to. believe their kids have a disease, which. is not their fault, then they messed up. as parents and that they're gay. Um even. if you were able to somehow switch the. trajectory of your desire from one one. sex to another, which does happen, uh. it's not, you know, not everybody who. goes in conversion therapy uh wins. It's, you know, best case scenario, you. got like a one in five chance. It's not. good odds. It's better than cancer, but. it's not great. Um,

if you start cutting things off. immediately, there's there's nowhere to. come home to. And the problem that gay. uh kids have is that they they they. start early on being different people in. front of different audiences. So, they. know that, for instance, they can't um. be their sassy selves in front of their. grandparents, let's say, because they're. they're whatever. And and this this. eventually unchecked becomes a kind of. fractured personality which uh is the. bedrock reason why um gay people are are. you know always so dishonest and always.

so always up to stuff you know because. they have these competing identities. that are not reconciled and they are are. playing characters in front of different. people who become almost like. fullyfledged people in their own right. and it is a kind of I mean it's you know. lay person schizophrenia it's not it's. not schizophrenia but it's it it becomes. disorientating and it becomes. debilitating and and and you you what. you're able to do if you have different. people you can lean into and lean out of. um like an actor but but in real life.

you're able to do things to those. characters because they're not you and. you might not know really whether you is. but um uh the person the the character. that is um the sexual uh person. you can begin to degrade them you can. begin to humiliate them you can get off. on um suffering uh even if it's you. because it's a role play and every. because everything is in your life. because uh you've you're now simply. replacing one facade with another.

constantly everywhere you go. And so um. because because your personality is kind. of broken into bits uh you can at any. point see any of it as not being really. you and you can do awful things to it. It's so funny that you say that because. somebody that I know who used to live a. homosexual lifestyle and doesn't. anymore, I was opening up to him about. the this gay guy that we had hired a. while ago who very quickly was lying to. us and stealing from us. And he was. fantastic at his job. We were so good to. him. And the question that he asked me, he said, you know, was there something.

about it? He said a lot of gay men are. sociopaths because they have to lie so. much about who they are and what they're. doing like and it shapes their brain. early on and then later on in life it. becomes very easy when you're lying you. don't even feel like you're lying. because you've nurtured this ability to. be dishonest for so long. >> I I wouldn't say that it because they. have to lie about who they are because. there's there's there's a there's a. little um there's something hidden in. there. there's a little something. embedded in there that suggests that. maybe it's homophobia that makes them uh.

damaged or miserable and that's not. what's going on. Um what they're doing. what what people with these uh um. disordered desires are doing knowing. that it is wrong and it is not normal. You you know that you're supposed to be. into girls. I I I had relationships with. girls. I just wasn't really feeling it, you know. Um, but you feel drawn to this. other thing and you know that it's wrong. and it's as much wanting to distance. yourself from the moral responsibility. and culpability of doing it as it is.

presenting different faces as well. Um, that become the reason why gays have. this sort of fractured personality. But. it's not sociopathy. They feel things. intensely there. And that hysteria is. not the um shallow hysteria of um of a. of a sociopathic mom who's going to. drown her kid. It's different. uh. they're in pain, they're hurting, that. and when they cry, it's real, but. they're they're bouncing between. different personalities and different. identities and and and your your man. there. Um it was like for from his.

perspective it's like somebody else was. doing that. >> you know um like like and he is. responsible and he did do it and he must. have the consequences because it will. help him to reintegrate and they now. call conversion therapy reintegrative. therapy for the reason for reasons that. you will uh immediately understand. having listened to me talk. um uh. they need that impetus, so they need to. get caught, you know. Um but it but they. are in pain acting out. And very often. you'll find with gays um they will do. this stuff almost to get caught because.

they want somebody to notice that. everything's not all right. And when the. when the alphabetized CD collection uh. perfect employee. um who's kind of, you know, like, "Yes, I'll take care of that for you." Um. needs you to know that they're in pain. they'll do something like steal or. they'll do something like uh uh you know. say or or or do something despicable, whatever. Uh they're acting out because. they want to be noticed. It's a cry for. help. >> So, it's interesting now when I consider. it now now that I was baptized Catholic.

and re-examining why it is that we. learned that it is this immutable. characteristic. It's like being black. It's like being woman. This person is. just gay and how it doesn't allow people. to get better. It would be absurd. Giving a totally different example if. someone is an alcoholic. If we said, "Oh, you were you were that's who you. always were deep down. You were always. an alcoholic. So, just keep drinking. It's totally fine." And yes, if you go. to rehab, you don't have a 100% chance. of getting sober. If you are taking. meth, you don't have a 100% chance of. getting sober. But knowing and saying to.

a society that this is an unhealth, >> it forecloses um Exactly. You have. immediately intuited exactly the key. thing about this. You got it. They don't. want people. >> You got it right away. If you tell. somebody that that's what they are more. even than who they are, >> you're robbing them of the ability to um. uh to make changes. >> Yeah. Like you're an alcoholic because. it's totally a genetic trait and your. dad was an alcoholic and now you're an. alcoholic and it's not your fault. >> There's nothing we can do about it. You. mean in a way you should probably just. drink, >> right?

>> And we'll deal with the consequences. later. Um robbing that person maybe of. the ability to get sober and to have a. have a family, you know, to stop beating. their wife or to get their kids back or. something. >> Well, that's the main thing. That's why. I think it's such an important. discussion to reopen. >> It's funny because you got kids. You. immediately understood. You immediately. understood what the problem was. Nobody. gets it. When I say like, what's the. problem with telling somebody that it's. what they are? I don't know. But you. immediately got it because because you. have children now. Um but yeah, that's. what it is. It it it. >> all of the pathways to to to um not I. mean you said pathway to salvation. I.

used that kind of I used that word. metaphorically earlier, but I mean it. literally too. Um it's barring your way. to heaven, >> right? And that's what's so wicked about. it, >> right? And so you see people who have. normalized this and now you have. homosexual families which in in my. opinion that is oxymoronic in in general. because you're depriving children. >> It's a mockery. Well, what's also. interesting about it though is like, you. know, a lot of people get into these. situations and that's why it's been.

fascinating for me to to know people who. identify as homosexual and all of them, the one thing that is agreed upon them. is that they they actually don't think. they were born this way. One of them has. mommy issues, says, "Okay, my mother uh. was bipolar and she drove both me and my. brother to never want to be around women. again and now we're both choosing to be. gay." Another person said, "I had daddy. issues. My daddy walked out. I wasn't. around him." Then I looked I I you know. I saw it to have that relationship with. men when I got older. You could say this. even for women who can understand this. in another context. A lot of the women.

who you will see sleep with tons of guys. is because their dads weren't around. So. they have daddy issues. They're they're. pursuing that paternity in a really. unhealthy way. And so for you, which was. it? >> Well, um I always knew that it was sick. and wrong. um to for two men to raise a baby. And I. never wanted to have any part of that. And I I feel some responsibility for.

um elevating. uh out out what you might call out and. proud homosexuality into um uh an. acceptable position in right-wing. politics in America. I I have I feel a. lot of um I I I feel a lot of things. about that uh about my personal. responsibility for that. I regret it. very deeply. Um because. although I thought at the time I was I. was being sufficiently tongue-in-cheek. and subtle that people would get, you. know, the the the nuances to it, they. did not. Uh and you just ended up with.

Lady Margar. And um although I said in. every speech I ever gave, if I had a. button I could push to make me straight, I would. That too of course got lost. Um. and and so you know the there was there. was a moment when it looked like it. might be a good idea if people who had. this terrible affliction at least lived. as close to um wholesome lives as. possible. I sounds sensible, right? Uh. so we go from being the taboo breaking. uh drug taking promiscuous uh subculture.

to people are living about you know. about as good as you can bas you know. despite the fact that you're you know. life revolves around a dysfunction or. around a um a horror like that uh at. least you know you don't need to like. throw the rest of your life away. You. could at least be healthy. You could at. least you know uh whatever. Uh and and and it seemed for a while as. though that was good. uh um homosexuals. began to vote right-wing. They still do. Uh and so we thought for a while this is. this is this this is going all right. You know, we had um we've got all the.

white gays voting for um the. conservatives or the Republican party. Um uh you know, they're they're getting. into all kinds of rows with their. intersectional whatever. This is good. This is good because they're the ones. who want anyway. They're, you know, the. the the white gays are the good ones out. of the out of the, you know, the LGBT. circus and and and they ended up voting. uh on the base of taxes instead of. social issues. All good things. But um. what what I didn't foresee which I I. suppose I should have is that um. three-fifths of a parody is not enough.

Um and when you when you have this. mockery of um the holy sacrament which. is which is ultimately what it is two. men living together and um uh committing. a sin that um as we know is one of the. sins that cries out to heaven for. vengeance. you know, it is uh one of one. of the things that um uh um it's it's uh. St. Katherine of Sienna, I think. Um she. says uh. um she says that uh the demons that.

cause homosexual acts once they've. prompted that in men don't stick around. to watch because it's too disgusting. Um. because they used to be angels and and. and it's in in their angelic rational. nature, they can't see something so. gross. So they so they um uh they don't. stick around to see the sin that they. that they prompted. This is the level of. seriousness with which the you know the. church takes it, faith takes it. So it. was probably foreseeable that that a uh. a simulacum of married life was going to.

lead to something awful and it did. Um. it is led to uh the widespread abuse of. not just children but babies. We see. stories now of babies being sexually. violated by um uh by by by gay I mean. the the couple who um uh Ruth Bader. Ginsburg married got busted for uh child. pornography I think uh sometime later. Uh all of the um. >> even the speaking of sorry to cut you. off but speaking of the mythology even. the Matt Laram project insane. I did not.

learn this. My brain basically broke. because it it was a part of the. propaganda. Sorry, Matthew Shepard, the. Laramie Project. Uh, why it was in. Wyoming, I believe, and they kind of. came out this mythology saying Matthew. Shepard was murdered because he was gay. and he was tied to offense. And this. became a part of my high school. indoctrination about why it was so. important to let people just be gay. because look what happened to Matthew. Shepard. >> And that was a manufactur total. manufactured thing. Actually, he was a. drug adult, drug addicted. Uh, the.

person who killed him was was somebody. that he knew and had homosexual had a. homosexual relationship with. And they. ran with this in order to get laws. passed. They I don't know if there's. ever been upon a myth. >> Has there ever been a hate crime? >> I don't know if there's ever been a hate. crime. I mean, definitely like, you. know, 300 years ago, uh the terrible, you know, there were atrocities. happening across racial lines for for uh. because there was an understanding that. that people weren't people. But but has. there ever really been a hate crime? Uh. >> when you say yeah, when you say hate. crime, it's so stupid. I'm like, has. anybody ever committed a crime against. someone that they love? Like, what do we. mean when we even say hate crime? Well,

I'm saying, you know, for your. attributes, like just because you're. white, I'm going to kill you. >> Has somebody pursued a homosexual across. a field, tied him up and beat him? No. Come on. Um, these things, >> but they wanted us to believe that. And. they taught us this in school. And there. are still people I know that are. watching right now that do not realize. that the entire movie, the Matthew, the. Matthew thing is all one big myth. But. look at look at the way that um. progressives will rewrite their own. founding mythology to suit the uh mores.

of the day. You think they're not. worried about lying to you? Uh is now. accepted uh uh wisdom among the wokest. of the gay community that it was trans. people who won gay rights at Stonewall. who marched. You know, it wasn't there. were no no real there. It was. white gays. The white gays do all the, you know, do all the the um uh the. interesting stuff. They're all the. fashion designers, you know, blah blah. blah. Uh, but they they they've they. because white gays have fallen out of. fashion um with the intersectional cr. now now they've they've just sort of.

completely rewritten who it was that. participated in this, you know, civil. rights event in history. They completely. rewrite their own mythology with no. compunction whatsoever. And they have no. hesitation in lying to us about things. that happened. And I think we're now. seeing we did a show uh um not long ago. about um one particular country that is. uh guilty of you know just the most. extraordinary machine gun of scups and. lies and and misrepresentations just. hoping that enough of it sticks you know.

uh it has become now the norm. Our. society's is it functions not on the. truth but but primarily on lies. I mean. most of the things that are said in. American public life on television, in. newspapers, in the academy are not true. Um, and this is this is very dangerous. because people with uh conditions or or. or or with disorders where they're. trying to figure out what's real, they. have no hope in a society like this. because it is now I think we live in I. think we live in America in a state now.

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thing it what happened in who was it? Michael, what was the person down in. Florida? I can't think of his name. It. was the found Trayvon Martin. >> with the Skittles. >> with the with the Skittles. There's all. of these founding myths and what they do. is they get the media to spread it like. fire and before people even know what. the truth is, everybody is emotionally. invested in the lies. And that's how. they do it. They have to tell you a. story that's borderline medieval. It's. like he was chained he was chained to a. fence just for being gay. George Floyd, he did nothing wrong. They just saw a.

black guy and they said, "Let's choke. him out for 9 minutes and hope that he. dies." And nothing. Nobody just goes for. a moment, wait a second. >> I've lived in America a very long time. I've never seen or heard this thing. happen, but the media, they are so good. at getting psychologically convincing. people that no, this is exactly how it. happened. >> My Brit my British is going to come out. now, but I think this is I think this is. how this country was founded on a. trumped up Reddit libertarian. hissyfitit. uh that was not really all. it was cracked up to be, but was the.

basis for a destructive and self harm um. uh story, you know, a founding mythology. of a country that ripped out the natural. uh system of government that is supposed. to obtain over men on earth and pulled. God out of the system, too. Uh I is this. my British coming out? I know. No, it's. I actually I'm going to. >> there's there there is something a. little similar about the way this. country was founded um to what you're. talking about which might suggest why.

this country is so vulnerable and so you. know as so so susceptible to precisely. this kind of of psychological and. political warfare because it is how the. nation knows itself how it was born was. in um a a a fit of injustice. >> that was corrected by a few brave men. taking a stand. That's the whole story. of America. >> Okay, so I'm interested now cuz this is. going to bring us right into the occult. and what they actually believe in. because you're right. The founding of. America is an absolute myth. >> I'm actuallyed by the French.

>> But hold on. What is the book that I'm. reading? The secret founding of America. I'm reading a book and it's basically. just blowing my mind and it's telling me. that everything you think you know is. completely false. But when I was in. study with some priests, they sort of. pitch pushed me. You know, I was in the. I was in England studying with some. priests and they were just sort of like. everything that you Americans think, you. know, is so foolish. Like America was. obviously founded by Freemasons. And now. I'm really understanding like yes, you. you had these Freemason lodges that came. over, you know, the Scottish right, Benber, and they they were the reason.

behind the Civil War. They were reason. they were literally fighting for control. of America. And the way that they do. this is very similar to what we're. seeing today. There's there is this kind. of mainstreamed lie. Let's get to if you. ask Americans. Oh, it was just the tea. tax was too high and this is what we. did. We started throwing it out in the. harbor and we said we're ready to go to. war. Now that I say it, it sounds so. stupid. >> Sounds kind of dumb, don't it? >> Sounds kind of dumb. Basically, like I. know it was a couple hundred years ago, but people were people. >> What? How much does this tea cost? Oh.

no. Paul Rivere, the British are coming. It's actually something childish. >> And it's gay. It's It's gay. It's gay. It's gay. Um, it's implausible. It is. fake and gay. >> You literally now that I'm getting into. the Freemason, >> is it and is it any wonder that a. country founded on a fake in gay. mythology uh would would would have as. its primary export just a couple hundred. years later sodomy as a condition of. foreign aid. >> Is it so surprising? No, it's not. Not.

to me. >> No, it's not. But but getting into the. homosexuality and looking into Benith, this was actually one of the Masonic. lodges that Sigman Freud was a part of. And that's why it made me think about. this because they were definitely very. involved in what was happening in the. south. They're very involved in what's. happening today. But I then became the. ADL, the ADL that we had today. What do. they do? They mainstream lies, right? They call themselves Exactly. They they. call themselves anti-defamation. But. what are they doing? They're actually. defaming people. They accuse people, >> which is a satanic inversion of the. language precisely as is used in their. in their warfare. They tell you who they.

are in the name. >> Exactly. And so they are constantly. accusing people of exactly what it is. that they are. So they actually in their. in their core by the way they hate. Christians. Okay. They they hate I I. would argue that they they hate the. nuclear family because that comes with. everything that comes down right from. Christian dumb like the nuclear family. The idea of a functional family. And. when you look at the things that that. they're pushing in our society, it's. constantly an attack on the family unit. >> Let's think about it in terms of. Catholic theology. The transcendentals. These are those qualities of reality.

that um uh all people are drawn to that. um uh give us a little taste of what our. Lord may be like. And uh depending on. whose theology you read, uh typically. there's there's four of them are beauty, truth, goodness, and unity. Right? So. you often hear religious people talking. about the good, the beautiful, and the. true. Right? Those are the things that. the ADL wages war against along with all. of the other um uh bodies of of a. similar kind. They they will um. celebrate the ugliest statues possible. They will spread as many lies as.

possible and they will um uh propagate. and uh seek to um uh enshrine. evil and wretched things. Planned. Parenthood, whatever the good, the. beautiful, and the true. And of course, they create uh disharmony and. disunityity and break people apart. It. is it is those those um those things. that I always find find it very helpful. to think about um the way that the enemy. has fought over the last hundred years. in this country in terms of those things. the transcendentals because um when you.

when you under when you it sort of. checks off all the fronts they've been. fighting on they've been getting it even. if we haven't well America didn't. because it's Protestant uh didn't you. know this lost sight of this but but but. the bad guys knew exactly what they were. doing because they know what Catholics. know, which is in just the same way that. Satanists know, what Catholics know, they just follow, you know, do do. something different, which is um that. those things tend to go together. And if. you make a society that is beautiful um. and that tells the truth, it's likely. also to be good. And if you have, you.

know, somebody who always tells the. truth and um has good morals, um they're. probably going to express those things. in beautiful language. Uh these things. somehow have a relationship together um. because they're all qualities of God, but also because these they they seem. somehow to lead to one another. Uh and. many people come to the faith, especially the Catholic faith, through. art, through architecture, through. beauty, because they see something in. it. They feel something kind of humming. behind it. And that humming is God. Uh. and eventually it tumbles into the the.

good and the true things they find out. about about God later. they're drawn in. by something objectively. um independently beautiful, eternally. beautiful about something that they have. seen or or some or a melody they have. heard or or or or all of those things, you know, the great richness of the of. the western whatever. Um by unpicking. the the mutually reinforcing structure. that used to fuel our culture and hold. us all together, beauty, truth, goodness, and unity. these things that.

we all thought reflexively that we would. of course we're all you know um uh. searching for and and um and and. pointing towards by making the world. ugly putting fat girls on the magazines. making the statues horrendous all you. know um Leslie Jones haven't I suffered. for that one. >> Dunham that wasn't fair. >> Dunham what did I do she's come back. bigger than ever she's you know in in an. age of empic it takes some determination. to be that fat But she is, it was so.

intentional for her to do to to to. introduce into the culture, get this. deal with HBO. It's gonna be the. greatest show ever and and then they put. her on every every magazine cover. Oh, it's so brave. It's so beautiful. And. but there is an element of this. I I I. really want to underscore this. >> The lie them trying to sell it to us and. then say there's something wrong with. you if you recoil when you see Lena. Dunham naked. Of course, there's such a. thing as objective beauty. They're. trying to teach us that beauty is. >> my recovery is rocky enough as it is. Yeah, it's like seriously. >> I could do without that.

>> But seriously, they're trying to train. our minds to believe that that. everything is subjective. And there's. something about that perspective that is. fundamentally satanic and demonic and. backwards because it's like, no, stop. trying to convince me that this really. ugly modern uh contraption and that. you're calling a building is not is just. as beautiful as when I step into a. Catholic cathedral. >> And so and so the the Russians. understand this, right? And so when they. talk when um when you hear um the KGB uh. guys talking about demor demoralization. of a of a of a population, right? Uh.

they're they're they're saying they. understand that if you make people say. things they know aren't true and support. things they know are bad and admire or. or perform admiration towards things. they find ugly, they're going to get. depressed. When you when you say. something that you know to be untrue, I. used to talk about this with. >> it makes you feel unsettled, >> but it's even worse. It's because there. is this culture of that. I would look. under Lena Dunham posting herself like a. total slob and people would say stunning.

and brave, you know, so beautiful, like. you're so morality, a little piece of. you. It does something to your spirit. when you speak an untruth like that. You. know, that's not true. Why are you. saying that? >> And so, um, when when the when the. Berlin Wall fell, everybody was like. suddenly western. It was because uh. everybody had been lying about what they. really believed. It was called. sociologists referred to it as. preference falsification, right? Uh all. of society basically everybody had this. uh incredibly powerful social pressure. to all say that they believed and.

supported this when in reality they were. like secretly trying to listen to the. radio from over there. So, so when when. there's the opportunity, everybody. suddenly changes all at once. And we. just saw that again with um woke with. trans with you know with Trump coming in. uh we just this extraordinary I mean. what the view uh I don't know when you. will be watching this but uh when we. recorded it it was on that happy day. Um. but the view was uh reportedly canceled. Uh did you see that today? >> No. Were they actually canceled? I don't. think that's right. Well, I I like to.

believe it and I I'm never going to. watch it again. So, I'm going to believe. that it was canceled today, but but uh. it's it's coming off the back of um uh. of Colbear and these these things are. crumbling because the artifice of lies. is crumbling because the infrastructure. that requires the wickedness is no. longer there. Um and so we don't need. ugly, untalented, uh falsely propped up. people on television anymore. Um and and. they're going to have to, you know, go. rebuild and do something else. Mark, do. you mind looking up and and then seeing. if you can pull that up if whether the.

view was canceled today? I actually. haven't. >> No, the the Rosie the view will be Oh, Rosie O'Donnell fears the view will be. cancelled for not aligning. >> So, you've ruined you've ruined my day. >> Um I was hoping the view would be. cancelled while Megan McCain um was on. it so that she would always think it was. her. Um but but I um I'm I'm choosing to. believe that it was canceled. Um. >> but they're but they are kind of trying. to tell us forgetting about the view. We. are seeing that crumbling a lot of it is. is crumbling Hollywood's influence.

Howard Stone's contract was canceled and. these are things that are in themselves. lies because they are contracts that are. not profitable but are propped up by. other things. They are lies in. themselves. Um. >> we got to talk about this because this. is I literally covered this on my show. last week. >> Barry Weiss there this is the greatest. example of this. The free press they are. trying to convince us Barry Weiss is. worth a quarter of a billion dollars. They have no views on YouTube. There's a. a Jewish word for calling for for for. saying that your publication, the free. press, is worth $250 million. It's.

called Hutzbah. >> No, but everyone is actually investing. Every billionaire is investing in her. So, let's actually think through this. What are they doing? It is so obvious. that this publication if we actually. lived in a free market society would be. under. >> So, technically speaking, uh things are. worth what somebody is willing to pay. for them under capitalism. Right? there's a big buck coming but uh you. know uh so so uh a company's valuation. is determined by the uh uh price at.

which people are willing to to to buy in. uh to exchange capital for slices of the. company. Uh and the ratio at which they. do that determines what the whole thing. is worth. But it has been a very long. time since people invested in companies. solely for profitable returns. We now. live in a very different world. We live. in a late stage uh monopolistic uh. decadent capitalist um uh world in which. everything is one of the same five.

corporations. >> So it doesn't matter and it never will. that that company isn't worth a tenth or. a hundredth of what they say because a. multinational conglomerate that doesn't. care will buy it at that valuation. anyway and continue to run it at a loss. if they choose to because it has. cultural value. >> Well, it doesn't have any cultural. value. No one's listening to Barry. Weiss. So what are they doing? Are they. that what they're doing is building the. uh propaganda machinery of tomorrow. because. >> that's what I was thinking. >> the entire edifice of the prestige media.

has been so badly damaged and. discredited by the last 10 years um by. themselves. They did it themselves um. that there is no publication out there. that still commands the respect and and. um agilation and trust of the public. Nothing. None of them. Uh, and the ones. that do have the most um, uh, confidence. of the public, we just defunded. the NPR and whatnot, which you know, were coasting on a kind of um, authoritative tone to bamboozle people.

into thinking they were telling the. truth. uh not really telling the truth, but they did, you know. So, so we we. have a um an enormous uh vacuum in the. media landscape that I think they're. going to fill by overvaluing and then. very quickly in the same way that hedge. funds will buy uh you remember all. saints that that clothing store uh there. was sort of there was one in in uh. Spittlefields or shortage in London and. there was one somewhere else and then. suddenly they were in every town uh is. the hedge fun thing. It's the Blackstone. thing. It's the so they they they buy. this and they're going to just federate. it out. There'll be there'll be before.

you know it there will be 5,000 free. press journalists. I totally agree with. you. >> What are they really? They're not. journalists. They are uh instruments of. propaganda for. the well Orwell didn't foresee this but. uh uh for for that sick mix of state and. corrupt capitalism the revolving door. between big pharma uh you know big oil. uh the the the military-industrial. complex and the government, right? All. of it together. And so those people. require a complex, large, and powerful.

propaganda uh um uh system in order to. get away with stuff like selling people. poison and telling them it's medicine. >> And to do that, they need uh people that. public will more or less by and large. trust. So my read on on Barry Weiss is. that she is the most malleable, controllable, anodine, um uh. empty-headed uh willing to do, say, and. be anything. um uh person they could find and. therefore is perfect to uh head up an.

organization that will be not a. journalistic um uh institution as we. have known them but rather um a room of. um broadcasters for rent uh depending on. who that week needs to um persuade the. American public of some lies whether it. is the Israel lobby or big farmer. Okay. So, interesting question for you. A lot. of people that are being propped up, a. lot of people that have power are in. fact, especially in the media, gay. They're homosexuals, right? Barry Weiss, she was married to a man, but now she's.

married to a woman and having children. with a. >> lesbians aren't real. >> Yeah. Well, lesbians aren't real. Well, tell that to Barry Weiss. And. >> thing about her is real. Well, whether. you think of a lot of people that are. empowered, >> especially her valuation, >> particularly her valuation, maybe that's. why they chose it, you see, but a woman. a woman who believes that she's sexually. attracted to another woman can believe. anything. I mean, once you if you're a. woman, you convince yourself that you. are sexually attracted to another I. mean, even lesbians don't keep it up. more than six months after they get. married. It's called lesbian bed death. They um they stop having sex completely. and they just turn into sort of, you.

know, miserable old knitters. um you. know, sort of uh and then and then of. course the domestic violence starts. spooling up because um the pretty one. gets a boyfriend on the side and the um. you know, the big ugly dy one beat beats. the crap out of her twice a week. Um. because it is what a dysfunction. dysfunctional disordered arrangement. which is uh guaranteed by virtue of its. um uh cacophony of um of of mis mis. lunging flailing mispunching intentions. to produce horrors like um Dave Rubin's.

Frankenbies um when. the thought of it you know just like oh. let's both and then stir it and then see. like oh my god. >> well I think even like okay so another. person in media like you had Don Lemon. you've that uh. >> why why do you think based on what we've. what we've discussed so far would you. choose gays to be the front men uh for. the real powerful people whose names. you'll never learn uh um and who will. never be held accountable because. they're so used to playing characters. already. They'll do whatever you want.

They'll say whatever you want. They will. actually and in fact inhabit the bl. They will believe whatever they need to. and they will be your um uh your. endlessly and infinitely malleable um uh. propagandists and figureheads. >> Interesting. >> Because they are so used already to. stitching together things on the fly and. uh and saying things they don't believe. and having no idea what the real truth. is. And isn't that just what's happened. to the press? It's become. homosexualized. It's splined and and we.

have this now we have we have uh um. chunks of things that kind of sort of. work, but there's no there's nothing at. the heart of it. It doesn't know what. it's for. It's forgotten its role as the. fourth estate. Why? Because it is um. full of gay people doing PR. >> Okay. So, here's a question for you. What how does the government win by. trying to indoctrinate everybody into an. increasingly more homosexual culture? because it's of course the government. has to win, right? They have to they. have to. >> because broken damaged people are far. more compliant uh that because they're.

needier and they're weaker. So, uh. people don't understand why big. companies love diversity. They're like, "Well, wouldn't that just like make you. less efficient?" Or, "No, no, it's. because uh diverse workforces don't. unionize. Amazon loves diversity because. if you have an Italian-American, a. Mexican, a Guatemalan, and and nobody. knows what she is, um they won't get. together outside of work and talk about. what the boss is doing, they won't have. the same priorities. They won't have the. same way of doing things. They they.

probably won't even talk at work. They'll find the other Mexican or. they'll find the other whatever or. they'll just sort of suddenly do their. job and go home. And this completely. divided, fractured, dysfunctional. workforce that, you know, doesn't. represent anything like the old. factories or workplaces of the past. where people were, you know, invested in. each other's uh um careers and kids and. and you know, took things to the office, you know, oh, I baked I baked today or. whatever. You can imagine that happening. in an Amazon warehouse and it doesn't um. because there because the these. workforces are full of people so utterly.

different from one another who have. nothing in common and don't really know. how to communicate with one another and. don't unless they have to. Those. workforces are neutralized um in in. terms of political disscent or or or um. collective bargaining. And Amazon will. never have to worry about their workers. all going out on strike one day because. the wages are too low. They'll never. have to worry about the workforce um. having an attack of the vapors or morals. saying, "We don't think we should sell. this anymore. I know it's very.

profitable for you, but we're not going. to pack it." They never have to worry. about that because there aren't four. people in that building who have enough. in common to have a coffee at lunchtime. and say, "We really should do something. about this." M. >> so in the same way the government that. is intricately involved in the sale and. um uh regulation and uh and in some. cases punishment of a variety of of. different poisons and drugs and all the. rest of you know I mean they they tell. basically they they they tell you which. ones you can have uh and they give. licenses to uh companies to profit from.

it. Um the more fractured and the more. uh dumb and dependent the population is, the more they will need to play ball so. that they get their aderall so that they. get their um uh paycheck. They don't. fall behind with their uh with their. compound interest payments for the. television that they don't own. So that. they um you because with everybody. living paycheck to paycheck and and full. surrounded by these uh addictions and. dependencies from their um brokenness,

from their disorder, from their misery, from their unhappiness, uh these. cushions that they use or these uh. medications or or these whatever they. are, you know, that they use to to to to. um to fix their mood from one day to the. next. They need that stuff. They need. it. uh a and it makes that person it. puts it takes that person completely out. of the running for social dissonance. That person can't even take a month off. work, let alone go and protest what the. government's doing. And so they become, as we now have in America, uh,

miserable, demoralized wage slaves, uh, who are, um, uh, living in a prison of, of compound interest debt, and who live. lives they they never wanted and don't. wouldn't choose, but which were sort of. provided for them as um uh, you know, as. as a as a as an aspirational lifestyle. goal by the the same press that um, you. know, does. and and and they can't. afford and they're frightened of um of. taking that time off and seeing what it. would mean and and then other things.

begin to happen which you'll just start. noticing now in the last 10 20 years in. America other crazym things start to. happen. I live in um a house. There's a. friend friend of mine. My my um friend. of mine owns this house. It is a uh. 1920s travatine marble and concrete. mansion. Huge whacking great thing on. top of a hill. And it is the only house. I've ever been in in America that feels. solid like it might be here in 50 years. >> Everything else in America, you must you. must uh having been to Europe so much. now with your husband, you must.

>> the architecture is just. >> things just feel like they're going to. last. >> and you're not wrong. You're not. imagining it. I always tell this story. and people get stories, but my my mother. um uh had a corkcrew that she bought in. Paris when I was a baby, which she still. had when I was 18. And I know that. because I stole it. Uh that worked fine. And and you know, we're Brits, so we. were drinkers. I mean, she was using. that thing every day and it lasted. You. can't buy one that lasts a year in. America. You I mean, you're lucky if you. can farm that lasts six months, right?

Everything about the built environment. is becoming disposable, dispensable, uh. fragile. Um, the walls are getting. thinner, so you can hear the people next. to you. Um, and and you know, you might. have somehow managed to beat the. economics of 2025 and buy yourself a. house, but that house is falling apart. the moment it's finished. Things are. peeling. Uh, the workmanship is, you. know, is terrible. The materials are. terrible. Uh, everything is done um. everything is done um in a slipshot.

fashion. And it makes people um it makes. people terrified of um taking risks. because so much about their life is. uncertain or painful or uncontrollable. or chaotic already. >> And so, you know, you you have people. trapped in this in this jail uh trying. to keep a breast of repairs on their. house, repairs on the car. I mean, every. consumer device now is 2,000 two. or$3,000 and breaks, you know. Um that. is not all right. Uh but every single.

thing is like it now. Um. you I was I was looking for um. >> Americans definitely have been kind of. taught Sorry to cut you off but. Americans sort of have been taught to. like embrace this new new culture. stainless steel everything is so. clinical. >> but it's sold as um a a signifier of. wealth when anybody from a truly wealthy. background in Europe will tell you that. is this sign of poverty of only being. able to afford something that doesn't. last you know uh when when uh black.

Americans were first emancipated. >> and they were building these new lives. black consumers in America in the 1950s. and60s. uh went into department stores and. bought the best that they could afford. the best brands, the best quality brands. because they knew it had to last because. they were building a life like a life. that that had a future. They were. looking ahead to their children having. um uh a a destiny in America and they. wanted to build something real and. something um with foundation, right? You. hear a lot of black grandmas these days.

that's your foundation, right? It's a. big word that you hear like maybe two. generations up in black America. That's. your foundation. Ayan le says it a lot. you know, the um Lea Vanzant um the. consumers in the 1950s, if you worked in. a department store, you would know if a. um a black couple came in or or or wife, she wanted the not the most ostentatious. one, but the very best quality brand um. better better than the white people. would buy and she was going to look. after it, take care of it, have it for. 20 years, you know. Um that's what you.

do when you have an investment in the. future. That's what you do when you have. hope for the future. That's what you do. when you're building something that will. be a legacy for for, you know, for for. for generations to come. What we have. now, especially in white working-class. America, where the razondra of the town. has gone as well as everything falling. to pieces, but really just in the. country generally, is this um flattening. and and and um cheapening of all our. life through this fake um oh, wealthy.

people just throw it away when they're. done with it. you know, waste the sort. of um uh uh this wealth mythology that. Americans have been sold. Like if if you. can just buy another one, that means. you're doing well, right? And it doesn't. matter that it broke or whatever. Uh um. or that you're you buy like I was. looking at um I'm a cat person. Uh I was. looking at um those robots, you know, that um that because you know, I'm not. touching litter and my you know, my mate. can't be there every day.

>> Oh, yeah. The litter robots. >> Yeah. and and the the leader in the. market which costs $700 and they've been. making these things since 1990 killed. two cats 3 months ago. They still. haven't got it right. They still don't. make it right. You know, either either. take it off the market or or don't build. cheap. And the reason is that it was. built so cheaply that the the magnets. kind of fell over. It's like trapped and. killed, you know, because even things. that are um designed to go in your home. for the benefit of living creatures um. are made with such contempt and.

carelessness and yet priced so. astronomically as to as to um as to make. everyone crazy. And it has made everyone. crazy. >> Yeah. And I mean, even in regards to. food, kind of this idea of like, well, we can feed more people. What are you. feeding them? You're feeding them crap. Nothing is ancestral anymore. That's. what I always say about America. is. ancestral. When you say ancestral, I. mean even if you think about people's. families that people don't know where. they come from anymore, right? So. there's nothing that has any substance. There's nothing that has that. foundation. >> Can't imagine the world before they were. born. >> And they're trying to speed that up. And.

that is that is the danger that I see in. AI. It's the reason why while everyone. else is sort of embracing this. People. were giving the the heroes welcome. When. Elon Musk joined the join the. administration, I'm sitting here going, "This is terrible. This is not a good. idea." He actually believes in. transhumanism. Okay. father, the founder or something. >> Yeah, her his grandfather his grandad. was. >> his grandfather was a part of this sort. of transhumanist movement in Canada. >> This is difficult for me because I'm. going blind and I have about five or six. years of vision left. Um, and so his his.

his chip is probably the only thing. that's hold any hope of me being able to. make my own. >> You don't ever give your the government. access to your brain. >> The problem is. >> we already have given the government. access to Ukraine and look what's. happened. But the problem is somebody. could put me in pastels without me. knowing and um. so you have some way to go in my. recovery. Um, no, no, but uh you know. his his thing is the is is uh is uh but. just about the only it is I saw a woman. writing with it on the screen and I was. like oh that's one of those that that's. like that's like Christ in the desert. kind of like glass of water kind of.

territory and it's like oh I must have. it you know you know um really really um. mesmerizing alluring kind of sickening. sort of a um of a of an inducement of an. enticement you know um. >> that's how they get you. >> Yes. Yes. Of course. Um I I'm I was uh. amused to see that the uh um latest. iteration of self-driving cars is um. consistently turning people straight. into oncoming traffic. It's like yeah. even even the cars want to kill. themselves. Um you know. >> but it's like this is the whole thing. It's like they want to control every. aspect of your life including your.

brain. So it's not enough to just fill. your mind with propaganda and lies every. single day. Now they're like actually. open up your mind. could possibly go wrong. You have these. people who found like the the foundation. of that transhumanist thought was the. idea that they're like, "Hey, we don't. actually believe in democracy. You think. too many too many people are stupid. We. are the smart people. Allow us to like. rule the world." Actually, his. grandfather particularly Elon Musk's. grandfather or great-grandfather in. Canada uh was a part of the technocratic. movement, right? So, they believed in. technocracy. >> This is my problem with America. When.

you rip out uh God and the King, you you. can't replace it with the stars and. stripes and a couple of um slogans. You. can't just say, "Oh, freedom, um, uh, um, Fourth of July," and and and think. that that that a an entire intricate. system of human governance and and. flourishing and culture and faith that. was all leading tending up toward that. that um, a capstone. uh, on earth as it is in heaven, a an. earthly reflection of the heavenly. order, the aristocracy and the king, the.

angels and our lord. Um, rip that out of. the heart of the system and expect. everything to be okay. Uh because you. don't just get rid of it, you make room. for something worse to move in. >> Right? Hollywood became the king and the. queen. The Beyonce's the Jay-Z's. You. see people worshiping Hollywood. >> And the problem is that if you have a. bad king, you're not supposed to, but. you can kill him. You can assassinate. him. And people do. When there's a. crazy, cruel, terrible king who's um. doing absolutely insane things, somebody. kills him eventually. But if you don't.

know the names of the people who rule. over you because they're all hiding. behind the rippling stars and stripes. like this, uh making a fortune from you, uh poisoning you, lying to you, experimenting on you, uh uh uh. mutilating your children or convincing. you to do it, uh you know, this is this. is that when the Russians said that. we'll know that America's conquered when. people uh don't just rec people um will. see their chains, love them, and ask for. more. And and don't we live in that.

situation now where where we've got. parents asking doctors to mutilate their. own kids just to relieve their own. consciences of um of of whatever it was. that they they messed up during. parenting or or for even worse reasons. I mean the things that single mothers. are prepared to their kids um there's. almost no depth to the the the the. horror of it. Um we in 1776 does not. make America a free of monarchy. It just. means you don't know who's in charge and. you'll never be able to hold them.

accountable. >> Who do you think is in charge? >> Um, >> good question. >> It seems obvious to me from everything. we know about empires and and um uh. longlasting cultures how and and when. they fall, how and when they do it, the. characteristics that it has. I think we. can see in that uh hints about the. perpetual elite class that seems to kind. of exist throughout the because um those. are the excesses I think that the the.

elites um embody that that they can do. but when it permeates down to the rest. of society things fall apart. So at the. end of Rome you know you have um the. Visigoths sacking the city and the. senators are not doing what they're. supposed to do. uh uh they're not in the. Senate, they're out with um child. prostitutes. >> or they're uh gay orgies or they're. whatever. When you start to see the um I. think that um Camille Palia, who we're. not supposed to quote anymore because. people keep finding things about um man,

boy, love in her books, but other than. that, she's pretty good on most. subjects. Um when she she she talks. about this. She talks about the things. that that civilizations have in common. just before the fall. Every single one. of them has a trans craze. All of them. every single uh great empire, every. single great culture that has ever. existed in the history of human. civilization has had some kind of gender. queer or or male female sex confusion. right before the end. >> Jumping in here to tell you guys about. the wellness company because what if I. told you that parasites could be living.

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then they kind of reinvent themselves. and they get at the top again and then. and America is getting very close and. the more that I examine getting back to. Sigman Freud and Hollywood what was. super interesting to me is to learn that. the guiding theology seems to be the. Cabala and when you think about what the. Cabalists believe and and part of it is. oral tradition so we'll never really. know what they believe but Sigman Freud. was a cabalist um at least if David Ban. and um Other historians are to be. believed. There is this com combination. of a man becoming the woman. And in. Hollywood Babylon, it talks about how we.

imported which is where uh segment Freud. was living and working in Vienna, they. al this old Vienna culture literally. came over. They were bringing them over. these literal pedophiles and Marlene. Dietrich trying to tell women in. America, which they did successfully, you should be wearing pants suits, making these people seem iconic like, oh. my gosh, she's blending. >> Don't comfort Marina Dietrich. That's. going to make me very sad. >> Yeah. No, she was one of them. They. brought her over. They found her in I'm. trying to. >> No, you have to. She's part of this. >> You don't know what it took for me to.

let go of dinosaurs and and and it took. me years to It took me years to let go. of dinosaurs. >> Dinosaurs is hard for guys. >> Jurassic Park is like the the it is the. aside from aside from. >> they are fake and gay though. >> Aside from getting raped, it is the like. seminal moment of my childhood. >> Sorry. Anyways, no. Going to see. Jurassic Park in the movies for the. first time. I watched that movie 500. times. I'm not exaggerating. >> Dinosaurs. They just love them so much. >> Oh, we love them so much. >> Right. You like the idea of them? >> I know that movie backwards. I know.

every line of dialogue. I I I had I I. taught myself, you know, do you remember. where she This is a Unix system. I know. this. Uh Lex, the um the the computer. geek girl who uh um figures out how to. lock the doors when the veloc All right. Okay. You don't know. But um when the. velocraptors are are um hunting them in. the visitor center right towards the end. she figures out how to how to uh close. the doors. I I bought a computer like. that and taught I I it was like that was. such.

a penetrating. thing for me. Jurassic Park and. dinosaurs like I wanted to um use the. same computer they had in the movie. I. had my like I had it on my it was. everywhere and I still love it and I. still have a soft spot and to let go of. dinosaurs is very difficult. I'm not. quite ready for Marina. >> You know you you need to be ready for. that because I'm telling you she was. imported over here by a bunch of German. pedophiles for a reason. Um and then. when you look at the pictures of her. with Pierre Ber. >> Yeah. Eve St. Laurent Pierre Leger all.

of these people who are interested in. bending the gender and fashion the whole. fashion Balenciaga the kids. I mean this. is now that I'm getting into the the. culture of Breijgit and who Breijgit was. friends with and all of them just. happened to have a thing for you know. kids about French designers and I've. been very reassured by my instincts to. discover that when I when I return to my. wardrobe it is Dolce Gabbana Versace. Laura Piana it's all Italian. >> yeah I haven't yeah I haven't. >> they have different they have different. problems. >> they have different problems yeah but. the French designers.

>> the French designers all have. >> they liked little boys. >> harims of catam and they absolutely. loved Marlene Dietrich forth although I. don't think that Carl Loggerfeld did. actually. Uh I think I think Carl. Loggerfeld um was gay, but I don't think. he was into it. I think he was one of. the few that wasn't. >> And the way that I know that is because. he was um uh very unrepentantly and. joyfully uh racist and sexist and unp he. didn't seem to be part of the cult that. of of conformity and uh have you know he. didn't have anything in common with the.

other I need to believe this. Okay. Um. you just. >> I will say this he has not yet come up. in my research. So there's that. >> Okay. So So you you have um uh. >> but the fashion industry really was. built upon. >> You have to allow me my fictions because. I'll go crazy without them. You we we. mentioned. >> I'll allow Carl Agabel to be your. dinosaur. >> We mentioned No, we mentioned on the. last show that your radical skeptic. skepticism is the only rational position. in a world like ours. But I am a. romantic. I you know I'm a with a. capital R. Um, you know, and and I I I I.

can't go on with everything taken. I. must have. >> Well, Eve Staint Laurent and Pierre Bier. were into defecation during sex, so. that's why they. >> Yeah, them and every Saudi uh I mean, if. you So, if you've ever seen anyone on. Instagram that's kind of impossibly. beautiful and usually um uh mostly. unclothed, that's a prostitute. They are. escorts. Uh, and those people go to. Dubai um a couple times a year to have. the most extraordinarily depraved things.

done to them in exchange for. >> this is what these fashion designers. were into. And so this is as I'm. researching and and sadly this came up. when I was learning about Emanuel. Mcronone difficult to give up the cast. of characters around them. But learning. what they were into and a lot of their. male prostitutes then spoke up and their. sex slaves. They had these sex slaves. But it it is quite stunning. And I bring. this up only to really underscore that. our entire society, Hollywood, right, was shaped. We were literally all being. unwittingly indoctrinated into a culture. of homosexuality, transgenderism, um you.

know, the the belief of the the male and. the female coming together to form a. cabal for me because if you lose France, you lose Chanel and Dior and those are. girl brands. Um uh whereas Italy I mean. it would be devastating to lose uh. Italian shoes now convinced. >> so it's it's worse for women to lose. France because France is the pinnacle of. female fashion. It's the it's the home. of oouture right so you know you you. want one of those extraordinarily.

expensive dresses cut just for you um by. you know. >> you should read what they were doing. like they thought it was in inspiring. them to be with these young women. I can. imagine I was ruined. I was gay for long. enough. I can imagine. Exactly. And this. this sadistic um treatment of women uh. putting them you know the whole model. culture and fashion whatever which. sometimes is uh directed at the. beautiful and sensual and uh pleasing. but more often these days is um a kind. of uh ugly humiliation and um uh and.

debasement. The things that um and this. is oh no we got to give up Tyra Banks as. well because she's part of this. Uh this. is the entire fashion industry. >> I can't handle this much truth. Uh you. you do you. >> we know this. It's like you you know we. look at it now and we're like okay yeah. everybody in the fashion industry is. gay. But the humiliation that they put. women through that the cruelty they put. the women through in fashion the gay. men. Why? Because they're visiting the. um they're visiting the the uh they know. that their moms did it to them. >> Oh I have a question. Yeah I was going. to ask you this. So something that I.

have noticed. Gay men hate women. Too. many of them. Not all of them obviously. But what I'm saying is that there is a a. certain level of vitriol that is. reserved for for women. Where does that. come from? I don't understand. >> It is um they lash out at other women. because they can't at their mothers who. did it to them. >> So um when when um I I have this I have. it I have it. I'm not proud of it. Uh I. I mean sometimes I am because it's funny. and then I have to kind of catch myself. Um uh just the other day I took more.

pleasure than I should more pleasure. certainly than was charitable in sharing. the you know sexual history and. pecadillos of of some Turning Point. influencer. Um and I I found myself. posting a picture of a man she had. public sex with at a TPS USA party um uh. saying um um I really shouldn't post. this. She is getting married in 11 days. Uh she she she is she was um you know. and and it.

I mean in retrospect yes it is still. funny and uh you could you could make a. case that it's justified but uh I didn't. do it because I wanted to improve the. moral standing of women. I did it. because it was because it was mean. >> Yeah. But why do why do gay men have a. mean? It's because it's because there is. um there is a there is a a a wound that. will never heal at the heart of every. gay person made by their mothers. Um who.

for instance um so you you know that um. there's a higher self-reported incidence. of homosexuality in uh black and Jewish. uh among black and Jewish Americans. Yes. You guess why? Right. Well, I. definitely have noticed that a high. incident of of a lot of gay people that. are Jewish. >> and black. >> black people, I would imagine, because. of prison. >> No. Well, yes. Fatherlessness. Yes. >> Um, so if you have no male role models, um, is bad enough, but that's not what. black kids experience. Black kids. experience a steady drip feed of poison. from their own mothers about the male.

role models they should have had, who. made them. And and and eventually the. mothers will start visiting this stuff. on the sons when the sons become. sufficiently like their dad. when they. start having sex, when they start. getting girlfriends, mom starts treating. the son. >> But then what what's the what's the what. about Jewish people? Because their. families are together. >> What is it? Think about the Jewish. marriages that you know. Think about the. couples. You have almost almost. exclusively. You have larger than life. rockous women with nebish, scholarly,

quiet men who take almost no interest in. the raising of the children. uh and the. women who are uh so unbearably. exhaustingly exasperating that he that. the husbands just let them make all the. decisions about how the house goes, right? Uh and how the house is run. I I. I I like to compare Jewish um weddings. to Jewish marriages to lion taming. uh. you have you know you have this little. guy and and and it's it's it's um unlike. the female suffrage let's say in London.

where where it's the men granting it to. the women are asking for it but it's the. men that have to give it to them. Uh it. was Jewish women who appointed. themselves rabbis who said um uh my. husband's an idiot. I could be a rabbi, you know. Uh. >> no, the Jewish women were in behind the. feminist movement in America. They were. they were behind there were the. revolution in Russia. >> So overbearing mothers. >> and absent inadequate or neglectful. fathers, that's a recipe for. homosexuality.

uh just as much as um some other more uh. physically traumatic or psychologically. traumatic events might be. Uh that. particular combination, the overbearing. micromanaging mother who thinks she. knows best but does not know what a boy. needs. and the father who's useless or absent. or in my case is a killer. You know, um. that's how you make gays. uh uh crap. dads and omnipresent um octo mom not.

octo mom but you know we know what I. mean um boys especially they need a. father or some kind of male role model. women cannot raise boys by themselves. they don't know what men need to to uh. to form platonic relationships with. other men because those moms never have. themselves they've only ever bounced. from unsatisfactory boyfriend to. unsatisfactory boyfriend and in most. cases don't have a good relationship. ship with their own brothers and. fathers. >> It's actually so interesting. I think. that the biggest question you can ask.

anyone is what their relationship is. like with their mother and their father. because you and this is the reason why. they're attacking family because when. you come from a nuclear family, a. healthy family dynamic, a mother and a. father. >> vulnerable to 90% of the warfare. >> Yeah. That they're trying to. >> think about the Catholic family. They. want to enslave us. So it's like the. easiest way to enslave any any any. people destroy their families. Think. about the Catholic families, you know, who aren't converts but have been like. going to the parish for like 20 years, right? Uh how unreachable they are by um.

Lizo or uh or or or or campus rape. culture or transgender uh uh whatever. If they were even to hear of such. things, which of course they do from. time to time, they would regard it with. a mixture of pity, horror, and. amusement. uh they're completely. immunized against it because they have. their needs met by an authentic. relationship with uh our Lord and each. other, a healthy family, right? Because.

they have no. or or or at least less fewer. dysfunctions, diseases, uh uh mental. illnesses. Of course, the vast majority. of me mental illness is just guilt from. sin. Uh they have less of that because. they're, you know, going to confession. every they don't need the beast system. They don't need the drugs. They don't. need to be lied to. They don't need the. mood fixes. They don't need a car that's. um uh not even nice but just expensive. looking and and expensive uh and and uh.

uh um flimsy and on credit, you know, Catholic Catholic those Catholic. families where where um everybody's you. kind of almost feel awkward to be around. them. It's like everybody's like so well. behaved. You know, just don't say. don't say You know, in my brain, of course, it gets much. worse than that. you know, I'm just like. I the most depraved thing I can think of. pops into my head and I just have to. leave. Um but they're they're not. tempted at draw. They always they always. drive um what they drive hoopies, you. know, uh because that's all you need. It's like who cares? Um. those people who have.

uh a strong family and God, they don't. need anything that the devil is selling. >> So true. You know, it's funny going back. to what you were saying about the. transcend transcendentals. I think about. this even in regards to music. So I I. can't listen to the music that I used to. listen to. Suddenly the cursing sounds. very harsh to me. >> What What have you What have you gone. off? >> What did you used to like and don't. know? >> Well, I used to be able to listen to I. still have it on my phone, but like a. lot of a lot of swearing, a lot of music.

>> like Well, I listen to everything. I've. always listened to everything, you know? I mean, I grew up listening to Lauren. Hill and like Whitney Houston. I was. respectable. Right. Exactly. But what I. mean is that I I used to be able to. score I would almost say I actually. started listening to more rap music when. I got into college, you know, and even I. mean so many different songs. Even if I. go back and listen to when I love. Christine Aguilera, right? Like a girl. normal. >> But there's something off about her now, isn't there? >> When you go back and listen to this is. so sexual and she was 17 years old a.

jean in a bottle that has to be rubbed. I'm like this is pornography for her. ears. >> I'm a gene in a bottle. Got to rub me. the right way. >> Yes. and she was 17 years old. >> And when you see the dirty video and you. realize that this is a girl who has been. wrecked by the entertainment industry. and they then use her damage to sell sex. in a different way. >> Ariana Grande bended all night. I bended. all day. And when you actually it takes. very it actually when you begin. abstaining it isn't unlike a recovery. and that it your ears repair your brain.

repairs. Yes. And then but then. >> so I understand I've never been on a. diet but I understand you stop listening. to it even if you stop listening to it. if you want people are listening at home. challenge yourself to stop listening to. maybe all music right for for let's call. it a month and then go back and try to. listen to something with exploitives and. you suddenly go and you know why you. know why it's Aristotle habits become. character. >> we're creatures of routine and habit. that's why we have to do the rosary why. we have to go to mass on Sundays it's.

why church is a regular. >> commit commment and not a one-off. It's. why um we have to it's why uh um we're. encouraged to do these uh rituals, right? It's why Catholicism is so good. for drug addicts snapping out of it. because you can replace the bad rituals. of the drugs and sex with the um uh. wholesome rituals of of of things like. things like the rosary, right? The. anggeles, whatever. Um. >> we we are creatures of habit. Indeed, half the species are creatures of a.

literal cycle, a a a repeating um uh. period of time that dictates everything. about all of our lives, but is also um. you know, it's kind of the the primary. way in which we measure time, the. seasons, the months. You know, uh it's. because of the natural cycle of. womanhood. Women find it especially easy. to follow. So, it's always women that. you will find, you know, at back at. church doing the rosaries like every day. at the same time. Men find it difficult. to to be consistent about that sometimes. because they're, you know, out here. doing this, this, that, and whatever.

But we're creatures of habit. And so, we. can make ourselves um you can get. better. You can get better. Um uh what. have you been drawn to that you didn't. used to listen to that you do now? And. then I'm going to tell you a crazy story. about um what happened to me when I. stopped being gay. But uh what have you. what have you like what what what have. you sort of started going, okay, >> a lot of things. So, first and foremost, I would say I did not when we first got. married and my husband loves the. chanting, the Gregorian chant. >> It's difficult, isn't it? It's a lot to.

take. >> It's a lot to take in. >> It is. Even I have trouble with it. Uh. the Anglican tradition is so much more. uh you know, the royal wedding music um. I was glad, you know, all the grand uh. wonderful kind of um pomp and ceremon. ceremonies and um that is so much easier. to listen to, >> right, >> than um the look, a lot of Catholics. have trouble with Gregorian chant. It is. for me I still find it more of a. meditative aid than a than a pleasure I. seek out. >> Right. But I think one of the things. that I've noticed though is just kind of. which was what Bishop Beer wrote in his.

book which I think was actually a a. major contributor to me wanting to be. Catholic was when he said that anything. that becomes broken and becomes away. from being whole goes gets closer to the. devil. Right? So if you start to break. down a family, if you start to break. down music, if you take down, if you. take anything and you start to fracture. it, the more fractured it becomes, the. closer it becomes to the devil, right? Holy. >> syncopation. So syncopation in think. about it. Holy is also wh L Y, right? It. can be holy or holy. But you want. something to be whole, right? And what.

the devil is constantly trying to do is. to fracture things like whether it's to. fracture the family. >> Certainly. >> Yeah. Well, I now think of these two. terms not unlike each other. When I. think of holy and I think of holy, >> well, the reason Yes. I think that you. >> this is correct because. >> you want the family unit to be together. You want the church to be together. Even. if you got Protestantism, what is it? It's the constant breaking down. Okay. Well, this was this was the church. Now. we're this and then they break from them. and then they break from them and then. it's constantly the greatest the. greatest sin you can commit aside from. suicide perhaps is is schism to to.

break. You know, right? Um the the way. that I think about it, which I think is. the I think we're saying the same thing. is um the natural law that underpins our. uh religious injunctions is everything. um uh uh is is that things are are are. correct when everything is um performing. the function for which it was intended. everything in its right place, you know. And so, uh, when when things are lifted. out from or broken apart from their. their natural habitat and their natural. function, uh, they set off chain.

reactions of of things going wrong. Homosexuality being an example. Um, but. also, you know, there's there's all. kinds of um of ways in which. Christians will say, you know, let one. sin and the others will follow. And. they're describing the runaway effects. of uh breaking a bit off. And that's. exactly what happens to gay. personalities um in a in a psychiatric. sense and it's what happens to um uh. families uh if the government can do it. They'll do you know the.

>> the some of the sickest and most. depraved things that the government does. are things that most viewers of your. program probably won't know about and. people like us will never encounter uh. directly in our lives. um the ways in. which the government treats people um. when they are down on their luck and. trying to rebuild some semblance of a. family unit. >> The um penalties, the financial. penalties and the threat of homelessness. that is uh dangled over the heads of.

single mothers should they make the. mistake of getting a boyfriend. You. know, who could be a dad to their child, who could be a husband for them, who. could, you know, who knows? obviously. get whatever, but uh they're seeking. something. more wholesome, more coherent, more uh. uh closer to to to you know, and and and. the state, you know, there's so many. people in this situation where if you're. a single mom and you have a kid, you're. going to lose if if if if there's.

suddenly a live-in man, like you have a. boyfriend around too much, you could. lose your your uh social housing and you. could lose some some or or part of your. welfare. like the the perverse. incentives that the system has set up. >> for the only possible reason to keep. those people exactly where they are. >> Exactly. To enslave people, the Great. Society exactly where they are, which is. exactly what it was. They mainstream. welfare by saying to women, hey, like. it's a it's a negative incentive, but. don't marry the father. Don't They. actually used to send people around to. examine the homes to make sure there was. no man living there to make sure that. there was a single woman.

>> It still happens. Wow. >> Um it still happens. not you know it uh. I I've acquired through my former. marriage some uh um marriage you know. from my former relationship some uh um. cousins in Philly who live you know much. closer to that kind of um life than than. I do and it still happens and people. live in fear of improving their lot of. of of making wholesome good choices.

designed to make their lives and their. kids' lives uh healthier, wealthier, happier, more successful because they're. afraid that they'll get uh they're. afraid that they won't be able to to to. survive uh in the in the gap that's that. that the savagery of the welfare system. creates, you know, >> and it's and it's all on purpose and. it's all designed to keep them exactly. where they are. Single mom with a kid at. home. Uh a kid therefore is being raised. by um haridans, termagants and and.

witches at school. Uh, and the mom is. just too wrapped up in keeping the plate. spinning to be able to think too much. about what their child will be, uh, with, you know, what their aspirations. might look like or or, you know, where. the family will be in 10 years. >> She's exhausted. And, uh, she still. doesn't make all the bill payments every. month. And the kid is, you know, slowly. being raised by, um, you know, these. these, uh, um, demons in schools with. pink hair and pride flags. Yeah.

>> Uh told if they're a little bit fruy, a. little bit how do you do? A little bit. light in the loafers, sugar in the tank, as we say. Philly, you know, um that um. they're not gay. Uh from which there is. a possibility of uh of recovery, but. they need to have their penis chopped. off. And mom is so tired and addicted to. her prescription medication and so. exhausted and confused and unhappy, miserable, uh, and and and and.

just demoralized and deflated that she. goes along with it and even maybe finds. some comfort in it because she didn't. want to be the woman on the block with a. gay kid. Um, and that is a deliberate. construction of the people that we're. talking about, the people behind, you. know, the the um Anderson Coopers and. the the Don Lemons and the um uh and the. Witches of the View now gratefully. cancelled. It's canceled. Um, just say.

it's canceled. Uh, if I ever see a TV. guide, I'll just I mean, so my maid has. been told anything that comes in a. windowed envelope to just throw it away. Uh, I started doing this 10 years ago. and nothing bad happened so I just kept. doing it. It's brilliant. Um, you know, if if you like really really owe. somebody money, you find out about it. eventually. Um, so yeah, so I have I. have all these kind of silly rules um. that just keep me amused. So I'm going. to have uh I'll have the the view cut. out the TV guy downstairs. Um, it. doesn't exist. It's gone. It's gone. I. don't exist. I don't see it. Uh um but.

no this this the these terrible. situations that so many people are in. that have been architected. by. uh instruments of the prince of the. power of the air. you know, um it's. tough to it's tough to um it's tough to. look at America and not think that we. are at that precipitous. crisis at that moment of collapse that. other empires have have experienced. Um.

10 years ago, Douglas Murray, who used. to be so much more interesting than he. is now, unfortunately, um said, "Uh, we're going to be squabbbling over. transgender pronouns when the Müller is. nucus." Um, and and you know, what he. was getting at was this this sort of um. decadent preoccupation with things we. shouldn't even be discussing, let alone. figuring out what the right answer is, you know, while we lose sight of. self-preservation and sanity in a sense. and everything else. It's it's very. difficult to look out and not um just. say, you know what, I'm going to go to. church and make sure I'm good with God. and stay away from everybody,

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like to have lived that um and to have. then lived a life of homosexuality and. then to say okay I woke up one day and I. realized that I wanted to get into. heaven. Do you not think it's just as. important because like you said I. haven't suffered enough. I al also have. a moral responsibility for the next 50. years to help other people. That's. exactly my worry because. >> but don't you feel that like if you like. you said I really I deeply regret that I. was I married and I'm representing this. homosexual style. >> She's clever. She remember she. remembered that you said that you regret. it. >> You're so wy. You're so wy. Why wouldn't. you want to do the opposite and speak.

about these things and just be honest. about everything that you've lived. through and what you've done so that you. people can learn from you. Because if I. say if I get onto a platform and I say. you know homosexuality you know you'll. start living a life of sin. it may not. have if you're a person who's dealing. with homosexuality or you're a person. who's in school and someone's telling. you you are a homosexual and maybe you. don't feel like you are a homosexual um. they may need to hear it from somebody. else who's lived that way. >> I will say this um I have. had I've lived a life of immense.

privilege unearned genetic advantage. Um, you know, I've really I know I've. I've I've had everything very easy and. there have been a few things that have. happened to me in my life that have been. genuinely terrible and that um most. people probably wouldn't have dealt with. uh like I did. Maybe it's because I. didn't have anything else to worry about. or maybe I've just built built uh. resilient, but finding somebody for the. first time in 35 years that you think uh. is the first person in in your life that. loves you back and that uh you know you. you finally don't feel so alone and.

thinking, well, I might be this, but at. least I'm kind of whatever. and then. having to give that person out because. you realize you're living a um a life. that's simply not acceptable to God and. see what it does to that person's life. and what it does to your life. That was. the worst thing that I've ever done to. another person. >> Leading your leading is the worst thing. that's ever happened to me. The worst. thing I've ever done to other person and. the worst thing about it was he knew. already because of course you do. When. you care about somebody, you can see. things happening. >> like it was messing with you. spiritually. >> He could sense that. >> He knew that I wasn't in the room. anymore. I wasn't present in the room.

anymore and that I was having uh some. kind of crisis about that part of my. life and he knew already and he'd. already come to terms with it and he. done his grieving for the relationship. So I'm there like I've just ruined this. person's life and they're being really. nice to me and asking me if I'm okay. because I'm not. Uh and so that was. horrible. And and you know the priest. thing I said I shouldn't say it again. and get cancelceled for another 10 years. but I will. Um, in common with a lot of.

people that this happens to, I didn't. perceive it as being as bad at the time. as the effect it I now realize it had on. me, right? It wasn't like a it wasn't a. a violent brutal situation, right? And I. didn't know until after I got cancelled. Thanks. Um, you know, when I had to time. >> that you had started loving your victim, not loving your not only your oppressor, I mean like. >> that that I I didn't realize that it was. responsible for so much of me that was. wrong, right? And and what it had done. to me. I thought I kind of got away with. it. I even sort of thought, well, kind.

of think I was sort of the sexual. aggressor in that situation, you know. Uh I didn't realize what it had the the. the what it had left me with. >> to to have that and then you know the. husband and then and then I have I have. a lot of health problems now too. Um. going blind and god knows what else. Uh. I I used I joke with my spiritual. director that um uh when I get to heaven. I'm going to march up to our Lord and. say uh I want an apology. Say you're. sorry. And he says, um, well, our Lord will. outstretch his hands and you will see. his stigmatra and you will feel. profoundly ashamed for the, uh, fraction.

of a second uh, before you plunge down. into the lake of fire. Don't do that. when you get to heaven. I'm just. kidding. Uh, but I have felt like that. sometimes. I have had that difficult. relationship where I'm like, haven't you. done enough? Like, are we not good? Like, uh, uh, enough? And I I've said to. a few people recently, which always. upsets them, but I mean it. It's like, I'm ready to be with Jesus. Like, I'm. tired, you know? Like, I'm good. But I I. have a feeling and there's a reason for. this which is a horrible gruesome reason. um that you won't want to hear but I'm. tell you anyway uh that unfortunately I.

think he has plans for me to be here for. many decades yet doing something along. the lines you suggest. Um when I all gay. sex is a humiliation is an exercise in. humiliation and in um self harm. In my. case, it was particularly so um uh. wanting to be physically subjugated by a. much stronger, larger man. And I uh. settled on African-American men as being. um the uh uh sort of athletic um hyper. masculine thing that was was doing it. for me. And in the course of um you know.

over 20 years I guess it would be 20. yeah 20 years of being an active. homosexual I mean I had a lot of sex and. a lot of unprotected sex with a lot of. people from a group um where half of all. of them get AIDS. >> 50% of gay black men get HIV. and I've. done the math. and it um breaks every law of maths, physics, biology and chemistry uh that I.

don't have HIV. It is mathematically. impossible that I don't have it but I. don't. >> Mhm. >> And that is uh that is a god thing. >> Yeah, >> that is a god thing. Um because it would. have been an easy way out. I would Oh. yeah, yeah, fine. Sure. You're gonna. spread that misery around to others. be. a participant in their um uh in their. sin as well, you know, because because. you you're two people doing it to each. other at the same time as you're doing. it to yourself. Uh and then you're going. to make it okay to be a gay Republican,

which is really bad, Milo. And then. you're just going to you're just going. to get to that. No, no. You've got five. long decades of making it. So I I know I. know I know I'm I'm dragging my feet at. the moment because I'm I'm enjoying this. kind of um interregnum fiction of being. retired when in actual fact you know who. I work for and I'm like walking like a. dog all day every day. Um but I enjoy. the you know I always like to make it. look easy. So I always have I always try. to have an air of studied nonlints. Um. so I try to I I like to have this uh um. I have this sort of um uh thing I like.

Oh no I'm retired. I'm retired. I'm. retired. Sorry you don't deserve me. I'm. retired. Yeah. But I I know that at some. point uh it will have to happen. >> Yeah, I think so. I mean, I I would. definitely. >> like Augustine, not yet. >> Well, you'll know. I think you'll know. when the moment comes. I think God puts. people in certain in their path for a. reason. And I think you've lived. >> right now. I know he wants me to do what. I'm doing now because the person that. I'm working for needs me in certain. ways. Um and I and I'm I'm I'm I I know. that I have to finish that task. >> But after that, it'll be time to uh. return to my duties.

>> Yeah, exactly. I think so. And next time. you're going to be I think you're going. to be completely sober in a few years. Sober from everywhere. >> I'll never be that. >> No. Come on. The English can get sober. >> I'm British. Look, we it's that would be. like saying go to a therapist. It's. ridiculous. >> Um what we do instead is we we bury it. We bury it. We bury it. We drink and we. invade Ghana. Uh you know um no we there. will be um there will never be a day. when I don't um uh you know I'm getting. better. I will say this. Look, Adderall. got me off cocaine. Um, I I continually.

get I continually take steps in in uh. good, positive, healthy directions. Uh, I found myself being irritated with the. fact that uh uh a medication I was on. was getting in the way of my prayer life. and I was like, "Oh my god, who am I? Who have I become just because I was. like stumbling over my words and I was. like, this is annoying. Oh god, you pick. the pick the narcotics or the or the. blessed mother. Milo, who are you?" Um, so, so I have confronted with those. kinds of things now and normally don't. disappoint myself. Uh, but you will.

prize a pogrigio out of my cold dead. hands, girl. Uh, it is it is part of our. holiest ceremony. >> Um, uh, wine is is it is it is a uh it. is um the substance that our Lord ch has. chosen to uh manifest in. It is um uh. drinking is Catholic. Uh Catholics. drink. That's all there is to it. I have. never trusted tea total people. I regard. anybody who doesn't drink with extreme.

suspicion um and and and contempt. honestly to be honest with you, which is. really everyone in America. But uh uh so. many nobody nobody drinks anymore. I was. very reassured to hear that you had a. glass of wine under social pressure, which means that you are not one of. those people. >> I did have a glass of wine under social. pressure. >> You did. You did. Um, but a one solitary. glass of wine your whole life is not. going to do too much damage, especially. but but um that's reassuring because it. means you're not one of the bad guys. But there are people who would have said. no. >> Honestly, now I probably would say no. It's it's just part of being a mom. You. got to be Now you got an excuse. You got.

I have to be up early with the cats, but. I am still going to drink myself to. sleep. No, look, um I I'm not going to. say that I have like the perfect uh uh. clean and pious life. I don't. But I. will say um within very narrow limits uh. I do you know I do like a drink or. whatever and and to some extent it is a. uh I'm not making excuses for for you. know this is classic sinner move about. to happen here. Well, really, it's.

because it stops me doing this worse. thing. Uh, but it does. Uh, you know, uh, the fact, you know, having a couple. glasses of wine, go to sleep, uh, instead of being up all night like I. would have been before. Uh, and 3:00. a.m. when the, you know, >> 3:00 a.m. is the witching hour for your. libido. Uh, you know, um, >> uh, instead having drifted off nicely. after a whiskey with a, you know, a cat. in my arm and a book on my on my lap. That for me is a way better way to end. the day than, um, spending six hours. tossing and turning, wrestling with a, you know, the seaman demon. Um so so uh. sorry um so I I have to call him that.

because um I found that the most. effective way to leave things behind was. to make them ridiculous. >> so that it was like sort of preposterous. that I can't even imagine myself doing. it um like sex with black people and. black are you crazy like I I tried to. make it into a joke and now I kind of. like laugh when I hear it so it sort of. feels like it was somebody else. Um uh. so you know I just turned everything. into sort of an um I turned everything. into into an absurdity that is absurd. that is disordered you know so so that.

that was helpful for me because I you. know it's difficult to um to stay horny. when you're laughing. Uh so. although the British and anyway um so so. you know I I think I have um maybe a. prematurely geriatric. uh life and routine from which I will uh. emerge one day. But right now, while I'm. staying on the straight and narrow, not. falling off the wagon as far as the gay. stuff goes and um continuing to, you.

know, put in a good day's work for our. friend and uh and and getting better. with my spiritual life all the time. I. mean, I learned Latin for goodness sake. Um fantastic. Drug addicts don't learn. Latin in their spare time. Uh but I got. a tutor for three years and and now I I. can translate the gospels and I. understand the liturgies. It is amazing. >> That is truly amazing. >> It is amazing. It is amazing. It's the. best thing I ever did in my whole life. Um it is amazing. >> Uh uh that kind of stuff I think is.

really important to me to have like a a. decade off. Look, I'm a self-indulgent uh lazy piece. of you know what. I know um uh my I have. the personality I have gay or straight. but um I'm self-indulgent but uh I have. tried to use the self-indulgent time. somewhat wisely um and uh I think I have. when I come back I'm going to be deadly. but um. >> well Milo no one's ever doubted that. that you're brilliant and and so what.

you'll fill your time with. >> it's very it's it's it's uh it's. exhausting you know it's it's. suffocating I've always wanted to be. more oblivious you know I wanted to go. through life, you know, like a like a. woman or or um or or or an ethnic. minority, just sort of enjoying the the. sort of drift. Um but always been sort. of hyper aware and sort of just just. meandering through life, you know. Um. you don't have that, but but uh um you. know, just sort of just I don't know. I. can't remember if I parked on the third. or the fourth floor. I would love not to. remember details. I would love not to.

notice things. I would love not to um. like draw connections. I would love I'd. love it if I didn't know when people. close to me were lying to me. And I. always do. >> uh because I have this pattern matching. brain that notices everything they're. doing. I'm like, why are you lying to. me? Maybe there's a good reason, but it. makes me sad every time. Uh and um and I. would love to take all those dials down. You know, it's a great curse to be um um. uh you know, witty, brilliant, handsome, um popular, and successful. Um there's a.

I there's a there's a great line in um a. David Brooks book or something about um. uh how Disney punishes athletic kids. because it tells these ugly duckly ugly. duckling failings to which they cannot. possibly relate and you know sort of. it's the popular athletic kids at school. who are the raw victims because they. don't have any stories that tell. that that speak to their lives. It's all. about like, you know, uh um uh it's all. about um losers and and also rounds and. all. Where's where's the kids book for. the for the cheerleader? Where's the.

kids book for the the quarterback? Um I. like to say, you know, I've I've lived a. life of um of uh of extraordinary ease. and privilege, but I've never allowed. that to stand in my way. Um, no. I I I I think um I know when I. have conversations with people like you. who are um insightful and um uh and and. have integrity and gently in that lovely. uh way remind me I've got lots left to. do. >> Yeah. I'm I'm in such mom mode. I'm. always moming everyone. >> No, but I need that because I didn't.

have I didn't have a nice mom. I had I. had a cocaine addict. So, you know, I. didn't have a mother. I had a I had um. >> because you can do better. That's it. It's like you know if you we all can do. better. So, let me make it seem like I'm. excusing myself from that, but you're. brilliant and I obviously a lot of my. political philosophy or the beginning of. my political philosophy really began. with reading you when you were on. Breitbart. And I know you have a lot to. contribute and I got I got to read the. the political side, but you've lived. through a lot, you know, being a sex. abuse victim, someone. >> I feel like Lauren Hill. I can't do a. second album after this much pressure.

>> I know. >> But you're I I do think your voice is. missing. I think there's a lot of people. that could. >> I will tell you this. a decade of. imitators and really nobody comes close. U it's been very sad, very tragic to. watch. You've blossomed remarkably and. beautifully um into somebody very. formidable. Uh and a couple of other. people have but other than that. >> it's quite a sorry field, isn't it? >> It's starting to look like our. architecture. >> Yeah. No, but no, it's it's flimsy.

No, I mean you look at. >> it's getting really it's really basic. out there. the the standard I mean the. standard of discourse on the. conservative. >> not interesting at all. >> It's it's 20 IQ points lower even than. it was in 2015. >> It's so basic. >> We were smart in 2015. Starter pack. We. were funny. We were smart and now you. know. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. And now you have like three clans. and one of them just says Jew all day. and one of them says this and one of. them says that. It's just it's so. intolerably dull. Boring. >> Not one of them has been ever been to an. art gallery. Not one of them has ever.

read a real book. Um, you know, I mean, I I will I will I will eat this mic if. uh you know, if if it emerges that Nick. Fes has ever read any book cover to. cover like these people don't know. anything and it's so so it does. frustrating. mine and then I retired so much it's. it's my fault. >> Once you have a platform and and you're. in that feedback loop and people are. like you're amazing, you're great. >> Maybe people stop learning. They don't. they become less interested. I think.

that they've arrived at the end the. conclusion and. >> another thing I did is I did I did write. a lot of bad books for other people. >> um uh which has contributed to the. general collapse in standards um because. I I've been ghostwriting in those 10. years and and um and you know uh the. kinds of people you're ghostwriting for, they're not intellectuals. >> Uh and and so you know I think I think. I've really is all my fault, isn't it? >> Yeah. >> I made it I made it dumb, fake, and gay. >> Yeah. I think that is actually a perfect.

place to end it. It's all It's all. Milo's fault. He has made everything. dumb. I have given America my gay gay. and this is the problem that we find. ourselves in in American society. Everything is dumb, fake, and gay. because of Milianopoulos. >> I'm so sorry. >> It could have been better. I'm sorry you. guys. Sorry. >> I'm going to buy a castle in Hungary and. you know, wish you the best. >> Milo, thank you so much for joining. We're definitely going to have you back. >> Thank you, love. [Music].