Bride Of Charlie: The Lost Years... | Episode 5

All right, ladies and gentlemen, the. players are now in place. You know who. the cast of characters are. It is. definitely time for us to begin pulling. it all together for you on a neat. timeline. Erica's missing years. Where. is she? She in Eastern Europe? Why was. she ever in Eastern Europe? Also, is it. possible that Lori, her mom, was in. Afghanistan? Is Lori actually a direct descendant. of Vince Lombardi? I actually think she. is. Also, we've got Tyler Boyer out in.

Romania now, too. What exactly goes on. in Romania? What goes on in Eastern. Europe? What what is everybody doing there? We. have a lot to unpack today, so let's. jump right in. Welcome back to Bride of. Chucky. >> We have nothing to hide. >> Yeah, you do. Got you, Okay, so we left you guys off at. Tesseract, right? Erica's at Tesseract,

formerly the Looking Glass School. I. cannot get enough of that. What goes on. in Arizona? Now, at the time, of course, this was a. brand new concept. Tesseract charter. schools, private companies coming in to. run schools better. Uh it's going to be. funded with obviously government. budgets, but they are going to do it. better and produce better results. Tesseract, we have learned, is backed. financially by the Bush family, the. Walton family, a model that's been. designed by psychologists.

alongside Dr. Frantz Fanon. I mean, what could possibly go wrong? Or. maybe a better question is, what could. possibly go right with this cast of. characters? Now, I had alluded to you. that Dr. Jerry conducts a lot of. research. Uh. they had to give her her own research. center, gender clinic, gender center for. the beehive, by the way, under the guise. of exploring issues related to feminism. and gender studies. Jerry Frontz Bay travels. She travels.

abroad a lot and particularly in. particular pardon, she travels to. Eastern Europe. She did this with a team. to research gender issues in 1990. Take. a look at this. Wow. According to Frontz Bay, the final big. project of the semester, this is at. Radford, will be taking a group of. students to Eastern Europe. We will research the expectations of men. and women. as work life and day-to-day life change.

after the wall came down. Really? Imagine your kid goes to this school and. the teacher's going we're going to we're. going to go at 1990 to Eastern Europe. after the wall came down. The fall of. the Berlin Wall. You're just going to. jump right in there? Do you understand what happened after. that? Chaos. That's what happened. Chaos and carnage. Again, why would you. take students there to research gender. issues? Do we think that.

gender issues are ranking high in the. minds of those Eastern Europeans? Now for clarity, as soon as the Berlin. Wall fell, the intra-Eastern European. wars began, right? The Yugoslav wars, bloody, brutal. That began same year. August of 1990 when Frontz Bay is just. going out there. Dr. Frontz Bay is going. out there. So, I have to ask myself, what is she actually doing? Let me enter this into the conversation. Are you guys aware of how many children. go missing during times of war?

During all that chaos, how many kids are. trafficked during the fog of war? Now, I. know this because one of my best friends. in college um was Romanian. She grew up. with real gypsies grabbing children off. the street. She would tell me a story. about how she was almost trafficked uh. when she was a child. And it makes you wonder, where exactly when they are taking these. children, where exactly are they taking. these children to? How could that go. unnoticed? Now, I I still. uh will feel this way about Dr.

Franceway. I will state this. unequivocally. I don't think Dr. Jerry. Franceway, who is a verifiable. fraud, was there in Eastern Europe. researching gender issues. May she rest. in peace. But, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to. it. Now, I should also mention that. Tesseract had a principal who would. actually climb a ladder at Tesseract. while Erica was a student who had very. strong military ties, a woman named. Nancy Gerard. Nancy Gerard Hall, she.

will become. Nancy was a military brat. Her father was Colonel Paul Tracy. Gerard, who was a member of the Scottish. Rite, a lot of that going on, a lot of. Freemasonry going on at Fort. Leavenworth, Kansas, out in Kansas. Um he was a part of the Blue Lodge, uh. Blue Masonic Lodge in Galesburg, Illinois, as well. He was also the chief. military law enforcement officer at the. Seventh Army in Europe. That's in. Germany, Stuttgart, Germany, in the. 1950s.

Look, maybe he knows where Jean Michel. Traugott went. Maybe they crossed paths. I don't know. The point is, that's not. the only military tie. Nancy's brother, Paul Tracy Gerard Jr., would follow in. his father's step footsteps. He was a. major in the military in 1977. I'm and I'm sure he continued climbing. the ranks after that because he was also. a member of a military honor society. known as Scabbard and Blade. But, that's not it. Also, her first. husband, Steven Edward Sample, he comes.

from a long line of military men. himself. He was a second lieutenant uh. in the Air Force when they married. So, that's Nancy. She's in charge of the. curriculum and much more over at. Tesseract. Now, I think it's fair to wonder, to. speculate uh. whether or not she approached that job. with military precision. Anyway, let's jump back into our Erica. Kirk timeline so we can look at all of. this cleanly, okay? Let's get it. started. 1988, we know Erica is born on.

either November 20th or November 22nd, depending on who's telling the story. Who's the clerk? We don't know. 1990, Dr. Jerrie France Bay, and I want. to mention this about Dr. Jerrie France. Bay. I don't know if she is still. married. Because we can't find marriage records. between Lori and Kent, but we also could. not locate divorce records between Dr. Jerrie France Bay. and Kent. So, I'm just going to put that. out there. And uh but what we do know is 1990, she's going to start conducting research.

in Eastern Europe. 1991, we've already. shown you this, Erica will attend a a. private daycare that's at a Walnut. Walnut Corner. in uh Cincinnati, Ohio, which is in a. corporate business building that's owned. by Childcare Visions. We have that photo. for you, which um was taken Halloween. 1991. Erica is on the brink of her third. birthday. In 1994, Erica is attending. St. Ursula Villa uh for kindergarten.

That's again 94 to 95. In 1995, Erica is. uh attending the Tesseract School down. in Paradise Valley. That's going to be. from her 1995 to 1996 school year. And her parents, Kent and Lori, allegedly get married that year in. Marblehead, Massachusetts, although we. cannot find a single shred of. documentation um that verifies that. Does it mean it doesn't exist? It just.

means that we haven't come across it, and neither have any of our sleuths, and. our sleuths are are usually pretty good. at that. 96, she is still at the. Tesseract School. Uh. 98, she is also at the Tesseract school. That's the That's the '98 to '99 school. year. Erica is in the third grade. And. this is when Loreen Kent will file for. divorce in Cincinnati. We'll note that Kent is living already. in Arizona, and Loree is listed as.

living in Cincinnati, at least if their. divorce docs are to be believed. Now, uh, we should discuss 1999, okay? Because I was sort of under the. impression I I I I had indicated to you. guys that Erica might have been enrolled. at Saint Ursula Villa back up in Ohio. from 1999 to 2002. But we stand. corrected on that. That's not accurate. People who attended during those years. up in Ohio at Saint Ursula Villa, they. emailed us, they went through their.

yearbooks, and they said that she is not. featured in those yearbooks. So, we. don't have Erica from 2000 until 2002. Now, it's possible that she went to a. different nearby school in Scottsdale. So, I'm going to put it out again, a. little APB here. If you went to school. with Erica Francevay anywhere in the. United States from the years 2000 to. 2002, we would like to hear from you. Okay? We'd like to hear from you. Now, what we can confirm, and this is where.

it gets pretty interesting, is that. around this time, you will recall American men and women. are being shipped out to Afghanistan. Nobody really knows why. But Operation Enduring Freedom. is going to begin. Don't ask me how or. why. if Saudis allegedly drove planes into. the World Trade Center, why are we. immediately a couple of weeks later on. October 7th, 2001, sending people to Afghanistan.

It's very confusing. None of it makes. any sense. Don't try to understand. corruption. You'll get it's it's very dizzying. But. that is that's what happens Operation. Enduring Freedom begins and we should. note that Erica's mother. her company. E3 Tech is going to be used for this. operation. That's according to its. current website. Okay? E3 Tech has a website and on its. website it tells us that. they participated in Operation.

um Enduring Freedom. And not only that cuz don't don't forget. like. Lori at some point falls and bumps her. head. and she's Steve Jobs, she's Nikola. Tesla, I don't know. She's like she's. just a tech genius. She she. is even going to eventually win an award. for her contributions to Operation. Enduring Freedom. Did Erica go overseas with her mother. during those years? Maybe in 2001. I. don't even know if Lori went overseas. during those years. I'm just telling you. that a cord according to their own. website E3 Tech.

they received an award for whatever they. were doing for that operation. We'll. leave that open-ended because we truly. do not know. Okay, so let's get back into our our. timeline. Let's Let's take a look at. 1999. Again, we don't know where Erica is for. that school year, but. uh that's going to be the year that Lori. files a lot. uh of of different companies, corporations. December 1st, 1999. with the help of Rick and Donna. Urpenback she forms Virtual Registration. International Incorporated. Again,

indicating that she's going to be doing. some work overseas. She also forms. Intellemet. uh the uh Incorporated on September. 24th. Uh Lori Fronskey also is going to form. Intellemet International Incorporated of. Delaware on December 2nd of that year. Okay, she's she's getting ready to do. business. Go to year 2000 Tesseract School goes.

bankrupt. Millions is are apparently. missing. Um you don't know where Erica. is that year, but you can see for profit. corporate drive to run public schools. It's just. it's gone. And then it just has a. full-blown meltdown and that ends that. In 2001, as I mentioned to you, we got. 9/11, we have Operation Enduring. Freedom, and Lori's E3 Tech company is. going to be used for about operation.

2002, we have no idea which school Erica. went to. We'd like to find out. In 2003, uh Lori Franzeo forms another Intellemet. company. This one is Intellemet of. Arizona LLC. Okay. She forms that on January 9th. 2005, we've gone over this. Now we can. document Erica. She is at Notre Dame. She is playing basketball. She also is. in the pageant world. She wins first.

runner-up of the National America Miss. Arizona pageant. But the most crucial part of 2005 is. what Lori Franzeo is doing. Because people have pointed this out, but there is a relic that shows you that. she received money from the government. I Met Laboratories. Um she's listed in the house bill. budget. She's receiving money from the. Department of Homeland Securities. I Met Laboratories. Perhaps we we could.

not find formation docs for that, but we. could maybe we can assume that that's. related to Intellemet. Because she's. starting all with Intellemet Arizona, Intellemet, Intellemet, Intellemet. It. could be. that could be shortened from Intellemet. Laboratories. Okay, what is she doing. for them? In 2006, um we know Erica is going to win the. National American Miss Teen pageant. Uh. she gets that chance to travel and to. meet Senator Jon Kyl. Uh, she also is.

going to present plans for what nobody. knows to Rep. JD Hayworth. And she gets involved in charity, Andrea's Closet, Andrea's Closet. And. which is going to work with a hospital. in Winslow. We showed you this article. This truly is the best version we could. find. I know it's very smudged. But I. wanted to point out to you that somebody. emailed me about this article. Erica. sort of uh. tells the story. Received interesting. email. Because we showed you this. article and in this article I can I'm.

going to read for you what it actually. states. This is again, this is Erica. speaking. She says, quote, "Winslow has. so much character. Uh, we love stopping here.". And then the writer continues, she and. her family have come through Winslow. many times on their way to basketball. games around the state that she plays. in. The email we received came from a very. credible person. I will leave it at. that. I'm going to protect this person's. identity. They said, "That is BS.".

That is BS. They explained to me. something I didn't know, maybe you did. But in the state of Arizona, 80% of the. population lives in Maricopa County. And the person went on to say, "I'm very familiar with basketball. I. can tell you. uh that at most because of the way that. they structured doing teams and. traveling teams, Erica would at most, if. she played for all four years. of high school, because Winslow is. located 3 hours uh 3 hours outside of.

Scottsdale, she would have only gone to Winslow two. times.". So, this is just her mother is involved. in this, immediately flagging this as. weird. How did she get involved with. this hospital? Elsewhere she says that. she also loves to do charity work. abroad. That would imply Erica has. already been abroad, right? She's already been abroad, so. was she with Lori? Did Lori and her. travel to do some stuff with the. military? It's a fair assumption. or it's a fair question rather.

They haven't answered our earlier. questions uh so. uh probably no chance that they're going. to give us clear answers on this either. We can jump back into our timeline to. relevant portions um. in 2007. We know she graduates from Notre Dame. Prep. She is Miss America Teen. She. begins playing basketball at Regis. University. Lori's AZTech International Incorporated. is going to be canceled for lack of a.

tax filing, but don't worry she's going. to bring it back soon. We can essentially now jump back. uh back into the timeline into 2008 cuz. that's where we we really left off. Erica is missing. She's locked away like. Cinderella. She's reading her Bible. She's only seeing her pastor. um while at Regis University for that. 2007-2008. school year. I should mention Erica was. majoring in business administration. Okay, that was her that was her major.

And that record that relic of her is. still available on the Regis player bio. It tells us what she was doing majoring. in business administration. Now we can assume while she's locked. away the following year or and this is. this is a kind assumption that. she continued her studies online. But in the future she's going to edit. and say that she majored in political. science from the beginning. That's not. true. What we do know for certain is. that it's going to take Erica 5 years to.

graduate college. And for some reason in. this year of 2008, Lori's going to. receive a lot of money from the Army. National Guard. I met Laboratories again associated with. Lori Frantzve. is going the National the Army National. Guard pardon me, is going to have to. disclose that they gave 2.4. million dollars to I Met Laboratories. Take a look at that.

J3, J6, that's got to do with like. cybersecurity, cyber operations. So, Erica already her. mother, via her mother, who she claims. raised her as a single mom, she didn't, unless maybe her mindset it was a single. mom cuz Erica was over on a base with. her mother, but we now know that during. this year, this crucial year where Erica. is missing, her mother. is going to wind up having received 2.4. million dollars. I mean, this this woman. from a model to a secretary to now she's.

getting all of this money for tech, it's. it's interesting. Let's jump into 2009 because it's a most. crucial year. Things are going to start. to get spicy, okay? So, remember going. into the this, Lori's already working. with the United States military. She's. receiving millions. Do not forget that. In 2009, Lori Frantzve is going to. establish Everyday Heroes Like You in. April. In her filing, she will claim that it is.

a faith-based organization that is. raising funds and developing programs. for vulnerable children. Okay, they. publish this on initially on July 2nd of. 2009. Okay. Lori seems a bit busy, but she's already. working with the government, she's maybe. in Afghanistan or at least creating tech. that's going to be used in Afghanistan, and now, wow, this hero is jumping in. and going, "I'm going to help vulnerable.

children." Why does that make me. uncomfortable? Do I have a right to feel. uncomfortable about that? Do you guys. feel uncomfortable about that? Military bases and doing stuff for the. military and now like, "I'm going to. help kids a little bit. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. With everything I know about Lori, I don't love it. Then in October, the same year, right. after she establishes this, it is. announced that the Romanian government. has agreed to allow America to set up a. military base along the Black Sea.

Now, uh that's that's the first time things. are are crazy. Uh America is going to make the claim, by the way, on a future podcast entitled. Freethinkers Only, that shortly after. they established this charity, Everyday. Heroes Like You, she's going to go to China to help women. who were sex trafficked. So, to be. clear, she establishes this in 2009. Her mother. establishes this in 2009.

What Where did Erica. go to China When did Erica go to China? In 2009. I want you to listen to Erica. in her own words. Take a listen. >> I decided to create something called. Everyday Heroes Like You, where we're. able to originally it was focused on. bringing funds and awareness to various. grassroots organizations that were in. specific communities uh that would be. able to have volunteers that are. transparent with their funds, that are. actually doing what they're saying. they're doing instead of just having 70%.

of the funds go to admin and only 30%. towards the cause. Um so, really just. focusing on making sure there was a home. for transparent organizations that uh. people could learn about, be get. involved with. Uh but from there, it kind of grew into uh something more. global. I was living in China and doing. a lot of work with um. the victims from sex trafficking, um and. then began to um phase that into working.

with the Marine Corps um and the army, and then was able to uh. work with a orphanage in Romania. >> So, she's clear there. Everyday Heroes comes first. She goes. and she's working with sex trafficking. victims in China. Then she gets this. partnership with the Marines. Uh and then she goes out and establishes. the Romanian Angels project. That's what.

she says then. Don't hold Erica to being. consistent. You'll drive yourself crazy. But, we're still in 2009. Who knows. what's real of that? I wanted to play. it. What we do know is that Erica shouldn't. be in Colorado anymore. Uh even by her. own standards which she she says I I was. there for the my first 2 years of. school. Once in 2009, she should not be. in Colorado anymore and yet she is going. to compete in November. uh for Miss Colorado 2010. So, you.

compete in the November before. So, you. wear the crown for the following year. So, she competes in 2009 for Miss. Colorado and she places fourth. runner-up. How did she qualify to. compete is one of my questions. Now, I'll have you guys know, you'll see. I added a note here that 2009. um got the Romanian government agreeing. to allow Americ- American staff military. base. That's when you start to see. Jeffrey Epstein. uh beginning to procure.

wom- women from Romania per his emails. that are now available. He's going to. instantly get his hands over into. Romania. Look, he's offering. Here is. information for the girl from Romania. who will receive $10,000. There have. been headlines about how often he refers. to Romania throughout his emails. There. is no question. Uh this headline reads, "Several Romanian women named in newly. released Epstein Epstein case files.".

I'll add here also at the number one. university. that he seems to be involved with is. Arizona State University which Erica. will eventually graduate from. For the. purposes of right now, just know that. Jeffrey Epstein, we have emails going. back to 2009, right when this base gets. established, and suddenly he is. interested in procuring models from. Romania, okay? Lock that into your mind. because 2010. is going to get crazy. This is the year that Erica will claim. that she went to Loyola Marymount in her. junior year of college. So, that's going.

to be from fall. 2009 spring 2010, about. We can find her. in a a yearbook or a graduation list. No. person has come forward yet and said. that they remember attending class with. her, but she also could have attended. classes online. It I would assume, given the amount of. travel that she keeps indicating that. she probably did take a lot of classes. online. So, just wanted to show you. that. This is when she is supposed to be. at Loyola Marymount. Um on January 6th.

of this year, Jerry Fronsoe creates an. LLC called Luminarias with her daughter, the one that she had when she was 14, Deborah Himsell. She's going to follow. Mommy's footsteps from the very. beginning of getting into psychology. It's another charter school company. Okay. Now, in my mind when I think about. charter schools and I. had received. an article that was written about the. corruption particularly of charter. schools in Arizona. You have to or I had.

to ask myself, what what are they doing. with these charter schools? What would. be the benefit of having these charter. schools? Well, while you being in charge. in charge of schools, you could create. records for anybody. Actually, you would. literally be able, if you wanted to, and. you had some people who were maybe. illegal, and you needed to get get them. into school pretty quickly in elementary. school, it would would good to control a. fleet of charter schools. I'm not saying. that's the case with Luminarias Group,

but I'm finding this theme to be. interesting of charter schools. And. again, you can look up many articles. about the corruption of the particularly. charter schools in Arizona. Which begins with Tesseract and now it. it continues to move. It's an. interesting story. Uh in November of 2010, this is where we. find Erica filming November Renaissance. And they eventually put up a trailer on. Kickstarter. She in particular is. working with a lot of actors, directors,

people involved in this project are. affiliated with Fort Huachuca and Sierra. Vista. Like that is an intel base. How did Erica get this role? How did. this happen? How was she doing this in. addition to her studies? Maybe she. That's why she takes a year uh longer to. graduate. I'm not sure. But I'm certainly interested in the fact. that this movie, which never came out, was about corporate espionage, spies.

going into a corporate company uh. working on behalf of a global. government. That is a little too on the nose for me. And again, by this time Erica already. has military connections via her mother. Where is her mother based, by the way? I'm going to assume if you're doing tech. and you're creating tech for the DHS, you're not just doing this from like. your basement. Is that a fair. assumption? I don't know.

We. um also know that in 2010, Erica forms. an LLC with her then boyfriend Tyler. Sanford. It's called Table Four LLC. Tyler Sanford will be featured down the. line as the actor in her My Kind of. Crazy music video. That she's going to film in 2013. I. should also mention that he is a catcher. uh for the Los Angele- Los Angeles. Angels. Like. like I've said too many times, Erica is.

always dating people that have some. level of fame as you will see. This is. the first person. But the end of 2007 or I should rather. say this combination in 2010, pardon me, is crucial that I'm about to explain to. you. Lori suddenly reinstates, remember, AZ Tech International Incorporated. first it gets into a little bit of. trouble because they're not filing their. tax returns, but then Lori moves to.

reinstate that in 2010. AZ Tech International is back on the. table. Well, for the first time that year, the. Black Sea rotational force 10 goes out. to Romania and they establish the Mihail. Kogalniceanu, I hope I'm saying it right, Kogalniceanu, probably not, airbase in. Romania. You can see that here. Marines, sailors, and sailors of the. Black Sea rotational force 2010. officially kicked off their 3-month. engagement in the Black Sea region in a.

ceremony at Romania's Mihail. Kogalniceanu airfield on May 17th. Now, what's incredibly interesting, and we're. going to get more into that. in tomorrow's episode, is in particular. a lot of those people are coming from. Reno, Nevada. of all places. Coming from Reno, Nevada. They are there the banner that they're. using, they're allegedly there because.

they're going to promote regional. stability. We have a way with words, I. will say in the West. Regional. stability, spreading democracy. The. reality is that Colonel Otto Buscher is. going to be accused of running a brothel. and a human trafficking ring from 2010, the very year that this was established, all the way through to 2015. Yes, Erica. will come into contact with Colonel. Otter Buscher. We're not going to focus. on that today because the more important. thing I'd like to introduce to you is. Tyler Boyer. Tyler Boyer in 2010, just when this gets.

established, is going to make an. appearance in Romania. to work with the Romanian. Parliament. I'm sorry, what? He's going to stay approximately from. May through to the end of the summer. This is the exact same time frame at the. Black Sea Rotational Force 10 is going. to be there, and here is the proof. Somebody had messaged me very early on. It was at the bottom of my inbox, and I. was saying, "I know that he went to. Romania." And I was trying to figure out. what he was doing, and they were like, "Oh, I actually talked to him about. that." They were super friendly about.

it. Talked to him about that. And here's the conversation. Tyler writes, "I went to Romania to do. some work with a senator in the. Parliament there.". And then he says, "And he was friends.". Meaning the senator in Romania was. friends with this guy that owned a. modeling agency. And took me to the beach. That's going. to be in Constanta, just so you know. For 4 days, and legit slept collectively. like 10 hours. The person says, "Oh, I was at the lake,

and they were there." I don't know who. this person's talking about. And then. Tyler says, "But yeah, these girls. were crazy, and I got completely. Romanian sloshed, and it got very. interesting. Haha, this is the Tyler I. know." Everybody knows who Tyler is. Um by the way, pretty sure Tyler was married in 2010. Check the records. I think he was. married to his his first wife in 2010. And also, isn't he LDS? Doesn't that. mean he's not supposed to be drinking? Oh, who cares? It's all for appearances. anyways. Super Christian company. Who.

cares what they're actually doing? Let's. continue. Tyler says, "They had this homemade. whiskey that was like I can't explain. it, but yeah, the girls were wow, both. of them.". I told you he's a sexual deviant. It's. like, "Erica Amy, there's just so much. out there. It's crazy.". Anyways, um he says the the person said, "I knew a few girls from there. Homemade. whiskey makes a person frisky." I think. that's in a song. And Tyler responds, "Haha, that's. probably the cause and effect statement. of the night. And I can drink a lot, so.

I don't pass out or get weird or. anything. Ha.". Okay. Okay, we can come out of that. Um. What was he doing? Who was the person in Romanian. Parliament that he was there to see? And. what was the name of the modeling. agency? I am dying to know. Cuz it's going to get real interesting. now, right? Erica just can't remember. She can't remember how she knows him.

She can't remember how she met him. It. must She said to me, "Maybe it was. through a senator." Specifically that. she said to me in person. She said, "It. might have been through a senator.". I think it could have been through a. senator. I think it definitely could have been. through a senator. Honestly, the vibes. are vibing here. I I I find that you both have a little. something to do with what's going on in. Romania as soon as as soon as we get. there. As soon as America gets there and. establishes a base, which is going to. become pretty much synonymous, if you. speak to Romanians, with trafficking.

Models in Romania? Do you know Jeffrey. Epstein, Tyler? Did you guys come across each other? Cuz. he was dealing with models in Romania, too. Anyways, you We got to figure out, if. you guys don't mind, I know this is a. I know they're just carrying on. uh Charlie's legacy. Everybody grieves. differently, and it might not be the. time to ask. But I really like to know. what model agency agency that Romanian. Parliament member was. working with uh that Tyler had a fun. night out with. And I think it's a good place to pause.

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Like way back. You know what I'm saying? I feel like you guys have known each. other for like since at least 2010. If I'm being honest. I think you knew. the Farnsworths and I think you knew the. Boyers. That's that's. I'd actually go back further. I think. you guys maybe even knew each other. since Afghanistan. But I'm going to wait. until tomorrow to introduce that how you. guys maybe even could have known each. other. I mean just dancing around each. other there in Arizona, all getting. involved in the same stuff, charter. schools, and then you and Tyler are. going to graduate in the same year. It's. all so crazy. I need to know. Tell me.

What happens? What happened with Turning. Point USA? You just knew got lucky around. pilgrimage, I guess, and there were. Charlie was at the airport. in Israel. You saw him. Your mom said, "Go up to him." She's a. pusher, right? Lori's a pusher. I always thought it was so strange how. you never mentioned that I was at the. airport with Charlie. Just thought that was so weird. You. never said that yeah, I saw Charlie with. Candace cuz we were actually together. for that trip. So interesting. Anyways, it's it's a. tangle tangled web that we weave, Erica.

Fun little update for you guys on Uncle. Rick. I would argue that he's a fraud. Oh, I actually I wouldn't argue it. It's. not my opinion. That was the bar's. opinion. Remember I told you he lost his. legal license in 2009. and I wasn't sure what or why or how. I. did know that his father, Tony, had bestowed upon him some of that. money. Uh but he was like, "Look, I don't know.

how this happened or how it got here.". Well, there actually was very detailed. article article about how he lost his. license and I'd like to share that. information with you. We learned the. reason. Rick is the movant that is. mentioned throughout this article. I'm. just going to clear this up for you. The. first reason. um. that his legal license was removed is. because he didn't pay his dues. Um okay, my best guess is the reason he. stopped paying his dues in Kentucky was. that he was hoping that they would stop. their investigation into him. But they. didn't. We learned that in 2007, they.

then opened an investigation into him. for the following reasons. Reason number. one is because while employed by the. Bank of Corbin to perform title searches. on certain properties, Rick didn't. inform the bank that other mortgages. already existed on those properties. So, they were issuing loans to multiple. people for the same property, right? This means a failure to disclose this. information resulted in the Bank of. Corbin issuing loans on four of the. properties that were already encumbered.

by pre-existing mortgages. Banks just loans loans loans loans loans. and it's going to this. one property. Just so you guys are are clear, this is. exactly what led to the financial. crisis. You ever seen the movie The Big. Short? This is what happened. Okay? We continue. The second reason is that. Bill transferred 50% of the stock that. he owned in B&G Holdings LLC.

Uh and that's Bill, his brother, the one. who was in prison for years. Well, we. learned that Bill transferred 50% of. that stock to an LLC called Bill. Urpenbeck Children LLC. And Rick managed that LLC. So, Rick's brother, Bill, made the. transfer. This goes on without any. consideration and while Rick was. indebted to several leading. institutions. Cuz he stole money from. people. And then that went to.

that went to an LLC controlled by his. brother, Rick. Um they And by the way, while they were. going through bankruptcy court, trying. to find money, you know how this happens. after they steal from middle-class. people and poor people, and they go, "Well, where's the money?". And people lose their homes. And well, then these people go into. bankruptcy court, and Bill's like, "I. don't know where the money is." Well, actually, in this case, the money was in. an LLC controlled by Rick. So, that's what happens. Rick ended up not only with Tony's. money,

but he also ended up with a good portion. of Bill's money as well. Cool. Thirdly, Rick prepared a deed. transferring property to a woman named. Anita Andrews, but apparently, he did. not record that deed with the county and. the deed wasn't actually signed by Anita. Andrews. That's weird. And he then quickly transferred that. same property to his mother and father. So, this kind of feels like this is deed. fraud.

There's some sort of fraud going on with. property. So, I I don't know about you. guys, but I'm feeling. really weird about the fact that he's. the witness on these crazy divorce docs. I'm feeling weird. Vibes are not vibing. Ultimately, Rick was found guilty. That's why he had his license suspended, but only within the state of Kentucky. in August of 2009. But, and here is the kicker, they found. that his actions did not rise to the. level of criminality, just professional.

negligence. It's amazing. It is amazing what wealthy. people. what wealthy criminals get away with, right? So, could you just imagine the. people whose entire lives got ruined. because they believed in this company, they gave their money, they're doing. more Whatever it is, and then banks are. going under, their entire life savings. have been depleted, and we just look at. the characters involved, and he's like. working at Universal.

Doing more LLCs with Lori. Lori's. working with the government. Like I. said, there's there's no bar to entry. when you're with the gang, you know what. I mean? The people that are running. things, doesn't matter. They write the. laws. They'll rewrite the laws if they. want to rewrite the laws. And this was. professionally not okay. He committed no. crimes here. He just was negligent. professionally. But let you get too many parking. tickets. You go to jail.

Let you speed If you're just speeding a. little bit too quick on the freeway, right? Straight to jail. Never get your life back. Oh, you've got. a record now. You were smoking a joint. You're You got a record. Hunter Biden, you're smoking crack down. the freeway. Recording yourself. You hand in your own laptop. He's like, you know what? I'm like, you know what? We flying high. We can do whatever we. want, okay? He's good. He's never going to see a day. in prison. Just want to let you know, these are the people that rule over us.

Anyways, enjoy your time at Universal. Studios. In other news, Blake Neff is obviously demented. I. don't know what's wrong with this. person. I I know if he's He might be. Jewish. I don't even know cuz like I. don't that's I hope he's Jewish. I hope. he's Jewish. Because. Or I don't know what's going on here if. this is just like a social disorder, whatever it is. They're obviously watching every minute. of the series and despite everything. that we have presented, despite the. questions that we sent them ahead of the.

series that were then forwarded to a. lawyer for no reason. Uh I had my producer Ashley sent. questions and they're like forwarded it. to a lawyer and the lawyer writes back. all snippy. Um but we'd like to know the. answers to these questions. We're saying a lot here. Right? Possible gang ties, we don't know. Um in the past obviously Vince Lombardi. is that. uh her grandpa? I don't know. Is that. Lori's mother? Is Lori even Erica's.

mother? Erica's weird little Tesseract. school, fraud following Lori, money. disappearing everywhere they go. But there's only one thing that Blake. Neff bear. He couldn't bear it. He put his foot. down last night and he issued a. full-throated statement. He did not. care. He came for me hard. Because no. one comes. for Shabbat Shalom. No one comes for. Erica Shabbat Shalom. Remember yesterday. I was joking about Shabbat Shalom, daddy's home, throwing on the phone. Look what Turning Point.

what Blake actually authored. This is. not a joke, okay? He could not bear me. ridiculing Erica. over Shabbat Shalom. Here's This is what. he wrote on on X. I have avoided. commenting on most of what Candace Owens. claims are in the past few months. However, her last episode contains such. a blatant untruth about Charlie's daily. life that I feel it's compelled to. correct it. In this episode, Candace. Owens aggressively ridicules Erica for. using the phrase Shabbat Shalom and.

suggests that Charlie's last book, Stop. in the Name of God, about the value of. observing the Sabbath is a fabrication. to make Charlie appear more pro-Jewish. and pro-Israel than he really was. It is. very revealing that Candace would fixate. on this as it immediately reveals. unfamiliarity with Charlie's behavior. for the entire period that I knew him. Charlie was observing his evangelical. Christian version of Shabbat. Like I. can't even read something. It's absurd. You can't come out of that cuz it is. just absurd. It is so absurd.

I can't even believe that he's authoring. this. First off, Blake, I could show you. text messages that turning your phone. off on Saturday I was doing first and. telling Charlie he should do before. anybody. As soon as I met George that. became a thing. I'm aware he turned his. phone off on Saturdays, okay? It's been. going on I did it first. Okay? I've been. watching this whole story spun and what. we're making fun of is that being the. first thing that you hit on tour. The. idea that he finished this book. I think. it was this was his legacy. It's. [snorts and clears throat] pretty. obvious here that you guys are we're.

trying to make us just remind us of how. much Charlie loves Israel. I mean you BB Netanyahu came out within. 48 hours to remind us of how much. Charlie loved Israel. We're aware of the. psyop and it failed. But that this would. be the thing that you broke your silence. on. Like. oh. Everything Candace is saying, how. how dare she discount the fact that. Charlie I just want to be clear Charlie. loved dreidel. Dreidel dreidel dreidel. He made it out. of clay. He'd spin it. He'd play. He.

loved latkes. Enough is enough. They're. delicious. They're crunchy and they're. salty. And we will not stand for Candace. to say this. I'm sorry Blake. I'd like. to apologize. Shabbat Shalom. Daddy's. home. He threw in his phone. Glad we. cleared that up. Charlie's phone was off. on Saturdays. Bro was like a rapper sliding like. Usher. Daddy's home. Shabbat Shalom. I'm sorry. I'm sorry Erica and I'm sorry. Blake. I will never do this again. We'll be back after quick break.

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Candace died and a week later there was. a stranger sitting in her chair telling. us she never believed Brigitte was a man. and she loved Israel." That's what. happened to Charlie. So well said. It's. just upside down land. It's just so. crazy. Did they I'm like, did they even. like him? Forget love Charlie, did they. even like him? Was he really just a. means to an end? I'm wondering. Uh Blame It On A Black Star writes, So, I wonder if Eric has learning new things. about herself from this series. I think. Erica. hits reset every morning. I think the Erica that yesterday is not.

the Erica today and will not be the same. Erica as tomorrow. There's something. about she's just on autopilot. Anyway, reminding you guys if you want. to support us the um, buy us something. on the website, you can just go to. CandaceOwens.com. Get great merch. It's. um, yeah. It's the easiest way to. support us in independent journalism. Okay, getting into some of your comments. from today's episode. Fasted writes, "Day of prayer for the. Epstein victims is set for July 4th. Father in heaven bless these victims. They are scared, silenced, and alone. We. will declare our independence from these.

evil monsters running our world in. Jesus' name. Please, amen. Christ is. king." Yes, pray. It means something, guys. I am telling you you can feel it. The energy is shifting. Um, there's an. awareness like there has never been an. awareness before. You we couldn't even. discuss these topics. You the. probability of. these sort of dynamics happening. globally if we were if it was a few. years ago, you would sound like you were. a crazy person. And we're now able to. discuss these prospects because people. are pursuing independent voices and.

people are considering uh, how we got. here. I would also really like to say, as I have said many times before, get. your kids out of school. Uh, if you are. able to do so, I just have had a very. strong sense that you need to pull your. kids out of public schools. There's just. a lot of bad stuff happening right now. Um, I'll leave it at that. Rachel Janusec writes, "It's my. birthday. Also, I have two questions. Did Charlie date anyone else before. Erica?". I I had alluded to the fact that Charlie.

did have one person that he was very. very very very into um, before Erica and. that's why it was lol hilarious when. Turning Point PR tried to push out this. narrative like Candace like and Charlie. were a thing. I was so his wing woman, you have no idea. I actually became very. close with that young lady because I. felt like it was just me texting her all. the time because Charlie would ask me, "What should I text? What should I you. know, what should I say?" or whatever. Charlie really was like a kid brother to. me. So, you answer the answer to that. question is yes, one person. But, yeah,

then then you met Erica. That's the. answer. The second question that you have, also. happy birthday Rachel. I didn't say. happy birthday. Do you know if Erica. still has her kids? I saw some posts. about Charlie's parents taking them. Thank you Candace, you are amazing. There's no There's no truth to that. Erica definitely still has her kids. UT Gramshaw writes, "Thank you Candace. for simply being you. We are very. thankful for your courage, your faith, and your drive to find the truth in all. things, to continually ask questions. Anyone who has attacked you for doing.

what Charlie would say. to do owes you an apology. Go Max." I. will not hold my breath for an apology. I'm not even interested in an apology. I. just want to get to the truth and we're. getting closer to the truth. And getting. into Romania and bringing these pieces. together and establishing the characters. and the narrative. was all just sort of necessary steps. that we had to take. Tremendous thank. you to our little team in there who. Trust me, we've been working hard.

Everybody has been working really hard. researching and fact-checking and also. enduring a lot of emails on top of. everything. So, and also thank you to. everybody out there as we get closer to. being finished with this series. It was. only supposed to be three episodes, but. because they they posted Savannah's. baby, I was like, "Oh no, you're getting. a whole extra week. You don't post. infants on the internet. You just don't. post infants on the internet." And then. I added another episode because somebody. called Skyler and left a message. So, this is how I play. We can go a whole. year. I I I can do a whole year. Brigette got. a season two because she sued me.

Brigette was supposed to just be an. episode and then she sent me a threat. and she got a season. And then she sent. me a lawsuit and she got a second. season. So, and you know, that's where. I'm at right now. Gracie Lou writes, "I would be so. blessed to have a friend like you." That. said, "How did Erica Kirk scam a genius. like Charlie? The more I hear her past. interviews, the dumber she sounds. I. don't get it." Shaking my head. Uh. this stuff with men and women is. biblical. You go to Genesis. I mean, it's not This.

is not about an IQ. What people saying, "Charlie was a genius. How could he hire. people around him?" IQ and EQ are. totally different things. And on the. topic of women, I Charlie wasn't a. genius. He just wasn't a genius on the. topic of women. Don't be ridiculous. And. you grow to trust people. People forget. how young Charlie was. So, even in terms. of who was around him, you make. mistakes. We are all human. It doesn't. matter how genius you are. Um. interpersonal relationships that's an. entirely different dynamic. I have been.

friends with people and those. friendships have fallen apart. I would. say I have a pretty high emotional um I. have a high EQ definitively. And. sometimes you get it wrong. It's This is. all normal stuff. And so, I think people. keep going, "Oh, he was so brilliant. He. was so brilliant." And then he sees a. girl and things change and you're no. longer thinking clearly and emotions get. into the mix. We've all been there. before. We have all been there before. So, I I do think. Well, I know for a fact he didn't know a.

lot of these things about Erica cuz I. was there. And we I'm finding this stuff. out. He definitely did not know. He. thought it was all organic. And I have. my questions about that. Tyler Boyer. He's an important guy. Important guy, Tyler Boyer. Drinking in Romania. Enjoying the. models, the ladies. Who was the person. in Romanian Parliament that he went out. to see? How does that happen? Tyler was. in college. Who set that up? Who could. it have been a Farnsworth? You're close. with that family, aren't you? They were.

in office. Hmm. I'll keep digging. See. what we come up with. Uh Sarah Phillips writes, "Can someone. please tell me why the LLCs and. charities by Erica and her mom sound. exactly like the fraud that Doge and. Elon uncovered in the government? It'd. be great if Elon could go ahead and. finish that Doge for Charlie.". I'd like that Doge to be finished. I'd. like to know what it was that Charlie. was concerned about 7 days before that. we're supposed to believe he just did. for funsies. It's a story that I've been. told by people.

that are more intimately involved at. Turning Point USA, and since nothing. they say is true, I I am. under no illusions uh when it comes to. the people that are in charge now, Erica. among them. Uh Danny writes, "They all act in bad. faith, literally." That is correct. So, I just wanted to show you that. I've. been saying for a while about that That. is not even If you thought that that. message revealed him, you're you don't. know Tyler Boyer. And that is the first. thing that registered to me as. suspicious is Erica is keeping people.

that I know are corrupt, that I know are. liars, that I know are sexual deviants. So, what's actually driving that? And I. think the answer is prior existing. relationships, military relationships, actually. That's the story that I'm telling, and I. think tomorrow. you will see even more how plausible. that is, how plausible it is that they. all kind of knew each other before, and. then surrounded Charlie like a November.

Renaissance. We'll leave it at that, you guys. We'll. see you tomorrow.