Bride Of Charlie: Red Sparrow | Episode 8

All right, you guys, happy Wednesday to. everyone except Andrew Kolvet. Yeah, because yesterday he went on to Dave. Rubin show. and he said that Erica was not seeking. the spotlight. Take a listen to this. Erica has always been tremendous and she. never sought the limelight. She was. always very happy to sort of be doing. her own thing and just be supportive of. Charlie. I gasped when I heard that. What? Wild,

that is wild. I mean, at this stage I. could probably write a biography on. Erica's life and my conclusion. thereafter would be that I have never. seen someone throughout their life. demonstrate such a consistent interest. and make such a concerted effort to. become famous. I say that truly. And you. know what? We just now have to get back. into their story, Charlie and Erica's. story. You should know more about how. they met. Plus later on on that same topic, Matt.

Walsh tweeted a thing. He's a staunch. defender of Erica, which made the thing. that he tweeted last night ironic to say. the least. Welcome back to Pride of. Charlie. We have nothing to hide. Okay, so first thing I want to say at. the top here is that this Erica Kirk. story would not be complete if it did. not also feature a few ques-.

questionable Catholics, right? I'm sorry. Catholics, but it does. We cannot deny. the facts here and it tracks. You mean. we've been going through this journey. We've got filthy evangelical pastors. We've got shady Mormons. We've got. terrible Jews. This is like a game of. Pokémon at this point. We have to catch. them all. Anyway, we had explained to. you guys on a previous episode that. wherever Erica and Lori go, accusations. of financial fraud tend to follow, right? Throwing it back to the Erpenbeck. brothers, uncle Rick Uncle Rick.

Erpenbeck, that brand new glossy Tesseract school, ultimately a charter scam in which money. inexplicably vanished. Just evaporated. into thin air. The school went bankrupt. and that's where Erica went for. elementary school. So, it's like. literally Ohio and then she goes to. Arizona and it's got these financial. things kind of just surrounding them and. then we happened upon some interesting. information. We learned that Tesseract.

afterward became Notre Dame Prep. And I was like, "Well, well, how?" Uh, well, it turns out uh, and I was asking. like how did how did the Catholics get. involved with that Tesseract school? It. was definitely a very Jewish school in. general. Um, well, it it makes sense. because I guess in this story cuz Erica. can be at various times Catholic, evangelical, or Jewish. It just depends. on the audience that she's trying to get. a check from. But there we have seen. there is a current of Catholicism that. is floating in this story. Obviously, as.

I told you, the church that Charlie was. attending, uh, the priest that she takes. with her everywhere, uh, despite denying. uh, that she's Catholic or whatever, she. took him with her to Utah when Charlie. died. Well, the story goes regarding. Tesseract that after they filed for. bankruptcy in 2001, they put their old campus up for sale. and it was purchased by the Diocese of. Phoenix. When they then turned it into.

Notre Dame Prep, where Erica then. enrolls for high school. Now, this. decision and the process was overseen by. Bishop Thomas J. O'Brien. I was like, "Oh, this is interesting. I've got to learn more about this.". And I should note that he was very. significant in building up the Catholic. community. in Phoenix. I mean, in under his. leadership, which began in 1982, 15. additional parishes were founded, including the one that Erica is very. close to today. But not close enough to publicly.

acknowledge in front of the evangelical. donors. You know, we got to Charlie was. evangelical. Doesn't matter if he was. going to mass every day. Go after Candace for telling the truth. because donors, okay? Weird. Anyway, he. was the bishop until 2003 when he. received the distinct honor of becoming. the very first Catholic bishop. in America to ever be charged with a. felony. I was just like, "This how could this be. possible?" I'm just doing a little bit.

of research. How is everybody just going. to be involved in scandals? We're. running what he did. He killed somebody. Accidentally, he says. He was arrested. for a hit-and-run in 2003 that killed. Jim Lee Reed, but by a hit-and-run I. mean that he did not bother stopping or. calling the police. He went home, had. some dinner, had a sleep, went to his. sister's house the following day. The. police were able to capture him because. of the very obvious damage that was done. to his car, which included a a cracked. windshield. And when he was discovered,

he said that, "Well, I didn't report the. accident. because I thought I hit a a cat or uh, a. dog.". For clarity, the person that he hit was. 240 lb and over 6 ft, so big cat or a. big dog. Remarkably, uh, Thomas O'Brien. only got 4 years of probation for this. The Vatican, of course, then accepted. his resignation. He staffs, though, the. school that Erica then attends. And um, that's by the way, is not going to spell. the end of his legal trouble because. then in 2002, this is Maricopa County,

you guys. I just I'm going to just. assume everything that happened in. Maricopa County is is problematic at. this point. But in 2002, uh, prosecutors. initiated a grand jury investigation. into charges of sexual abuse uh, by. Catholic priests, uh, priests in. potential in that were staffed by. O'Brien. He became a target of the. investigation for allegedly covering up. the allegations of the priests who he. had staffed. Um, it's sounding a bit. reminiscent of when we talked about. Calvary Chapel and how they were kind of. intentionally going around and finding.

these pastors and rehabilitating them. and moving them around who had. connections to sex abuse, right? Well, he. doesn't want to go to prison again. He. didn't go the first time, but like he's. worried and in exchange for immunity, he. just comes clean. He admits that several. times during his 22-year tenure, he had. placed children in harm's way by. transferring priests who had been. accused of abuse to his parishes and. that he did not inform the parishioners.

of doing that or his new superiors. So, again, I will ask the question, what. goes on in Maricopa County? Um, it's obviously not anything good. Why does it seem to me that there. happens to be so much corruption? Um, like it like it's just like an. established colony of corruption. It is, I believe, factually the most corrupt. county and I'm talking about in politics. in America. Uh, who is driving that. corruption? We get closer throughout. this series. Anyway, I wanted to just. pop that in and tell you that cuz it's.

just remarkable that the most basic fact. checks, you just you're in Arizona, you. land upon these things uh, nonstop. Now, we're going to jump right back into. our Erica timeline cuz woo, boy, do I have something to share with. you regarding 2018. Let's jump in where. we left off. So, in 2015, Erica is 27. years old, okay? It is entirely unclear. what she is doing for work. And it's. important to stress, she's 27 years old. This is not 18, 19, just got out of the. house, don't know what I'm doing. I'm.

just wondering how is she affording to. live, okay? She's still dating J.T. Massey uh, during this time. We also. have that on July 11th, Lori Frantzve. and Tyler Boyer and Erica are going to. be behind. Donald Trump for his presidential. campaign rally. Now, you will recall. this is when the story gets pretty. fuzzy. Erica thinks that she met Tyler. at that rally, but Tyler tells the story. that she called him up before that rally.

and offered to help, so the details get. murky. She can't remember how she met. him. Kind of thinking it was years earlier. when her mother was doing deals with the. uh, the Farnsworth family for EMPs and. getting money again from the government. for fear-mongering. It was going to be. these EMP attacks. Anyway, in mid-August of that year, Erica goes to Canada. She travels to. Montreal. uh, through to Estero, uh, Quebec.

Again, not knowing how she is affording. this lifestyle. She is traveling with. Nicole Rothstein. Um, we have that in November, her mother. establishes G-Tech Industries LLC. I. know you're going to say, "What is What. does it do?". Um, you know, it's Lori, so it's like. this she's doing this whole EMP thing. and she's getting money and she's saying. this is the threat and she's working. with people that she knows and she's. going to get your tax dollars for doing. that and so that's what she's doing with.

uh, with G-Tech. Uh, we have then. thereafter that Erica soft launches. another charity that's called For the. Cause in Phoenix and yes, the cause is. always going to be children. Um, it has something to do with. children out of hospital, but it never. looks like it never uh, really gets out. of the gate. I mean, that's today. It. says coming fall of 2015. It looks like. it never did did arrive, but she was.

associated with that project. That is. all that we can find in terms of what. Erica was doing for work in that year. We jump into 2016. and now you should know that Erica is. 28. She's going to be 28 years old and. we still have no idea what she is doing. for work. And now she's living in New. York City, one of the most expensive. cities in the world. So, the question you should ask yourself. is how is she making money to afford. this lifestyle? And I'm going to remind. you that these are the years that the.

people at Next Model Management remember. that she was at Next Model Management. and she was. in charge of the the point person for. the quote-unquote model apartments where. they put the models that were coming. from Eastern Europe and that she was. attached in particular to a building on. the Upper East Side. So, that. if she was getting paid that way. Otherwise, I can't figure out what she's. doing.

On May 9th, she shares that she's. location scouting in Williamsburg, Brooklyn for what it is unclear. You know, in the past she's made. statements that she was a a casting. director. Casting directors are not the. same as. location scouts. So, this is kind of the. Jane of all trades thing that she is. consistently selling. Later on in the. future, she's going to claim that this. is the year that she launched Bible in. 365. On a future post she says in 2016, I.

started Bible in 365 in my New York City. apartment. That is objectively untrue. according to corporate filings, okay? That just did not happen, but she. alleges that in a future post. In This. is also the year that her mother is just. going to receive an honorary degree. conferred upon her at a university I've. never heard of, AATC University. graduation program. That is Lori, not. Erica, to be clear the picture is a.

little blurry. But, they're you know, they just they just get things. They. just get things handed out and it's. AATC, to be clear, stands for Advancing. Achievers Technology and Cybersecurity. University. In August, Lori will then go to Utah and. attend an expo. Utah of all places for. GTech Industries. So, she's kind of. looking for people to buy into what. looks to me to be a scam, okay? Protect yourself from an EMP attack. It's this constant fear-mongering that.

she's going to do. I've said my feelings about Lori. Franchetti, so I will leave that alone, but that's what she is doing. And then in August, we find Erica. somewhere in the Mediterranean. I could. not figure out where she was. My guess. would be Croatia or Italy based on the. water that certainly is the. Mediterranean Sea. Again. unclear how she's affording this. lifestyle to be able to travel the world. and do these sorts of things while. living in New York City and not having a. job that is apparent to us.

In Lori then releases an intent to sell. GTech Industries to Saxon Capital Group. A little fun fact here, Saxon Capital. Group is actually Lori. Lori is an 86%. owner of Saxon Capital Group. They. released this onto PR Newswire and then. it turns out that years later Saxon. Capital Group with Lori as a minor. partner they're going to file for an IPO. and they're like, yeah, no we actually. never did that deal. So, just a little. bit of more of like, you know, Lori.

trickery like, oh I'm selling my company. and then she doesn't actually sell it to. them according to them. In 2017, Erica is going to get busy, but. once again, we're not going to really. understand what she's actually doing, okay? She's doing everything and nothing. at the same time. Always reminding you. this is a 29-year-old woman. She's about. to be 30. You can't just like not do something in. life unless you're unspeakably wealthy. I guess you that that could be the. lifestyle, but that's not the. circumstance for Erica Kirk. On January.

12th, she establishes the Elm Group LLC. Okay? No idea what this company does. Nothing nothing makes sense in terms of. what this company does. I could not. figure out what this company does. If. you know, please let me know. Maybe. you've worked with the Elm Group. I'm. going to go with Erica's kind of doing. what her mom does and just creating a. lot of LLCs. There's no description that. is offered on those documents. On. February 1st, as you guys may have seen, she then appears in this documentary.

that's called Black Starts by Patricia. Patrick. The documentary also features the CIA. director James Woolsey. Now, I want to. say. this documentary is about EMP attacks, right? How the government needs to. prepare for them. So, it's a bit more of. her mother's propaganda, so to speak. And she is going to present her mother's. business model. I'll let you take a. listen to a quick clip of this. We have five major threats that make our. grid extremely vulnerable that we've.

presented to congressional officials. One being cyber, two being hackers, three being physical threats, fourth one. is solar EMP and the fifth one is. man-made EMP. So, the concern that we. have is that we put out this critical. information and when we go over this. risk analysis, they hear what we're. saying, but they don't want to take. action. When she says we, I don't know who she's. speaking about. I don't know why she has. the background to be featured in this. documentary. You know, there are a lot. of people online that were kind of.

trying to. minimize this and be like, oh well, it's. it's not the CIA is not involved in. this. It's just the director is featured. in the documentary. You can't just like. ring up the CIA and ask them to be in. your documentary. I want you to know. that's not a thing. So, think through. the common sense there. If I want to do. a documentary on EMPs and I'm just a. random girl that is like in pageant. world, that's pretty much all she's. accomplished at this point in her life, right? How am I getting the CIA involved. in that? Like there's obviously a.

connection there and it just annoys me. when people are are constantly trying. to offend us. Like we're like we're just. so stupid that no, nothing to see here. ever. That's just he the CIA director. just normally does that. You just got to. hit him up. A call a 1-800 number and. he'll be featured in your random. documentary, too. And again, what. qualifies her for that? Nobody knows. On. July 24th, her mother then opens that. mysterious LLC Desert Spirit Tech LLC. That is the one that should not. especially be ignored.

Opening up tech in the middle of the I. hope I'm saying this right, the Tohono. O'odham reservation Indian reservation. Nothing good happens on Indian. reservations that Americans get involved. in, okay? It's basically you can do. whatever you want. No rules apply. People are trafficked. There's drug. trafficking. In fact, when she gets. involved, I think they had just shut. down it passes to Mexico. They had the. San Miguel Gate on the Tohono. reservation which passed through to.

Mexico and there's nothing the feds can. do. Like what is Lori doing. with a Native American reservation? Can. anybody tell me what tech she's doing. that she's involving herself there? Is. she involved with casinos? Is Desert. Spirit Tech casino stuff? I don't know. The fact that she has all of these LLCs. and we don't know what she is, I would. like to continue to stress is. exceedingly problematic especially given. her relationships with the government, okay? I don't like this area. I don't. like what goes on in Arizona down by the.

border and the people that Lori. Franchetti involves herself with. This year, Erica is dating Cabot. Phillips, by the way. I told you she has. a boyfriend every single year. Cabot. Phillips is her boyfriend. At this time, they're painting together. Cute. Very. cute. Yeah, anyway. And per her LinkedIn, she begins. attending Liberty University for her. master's degree. So, you can see that. there. Again, she's going to say she attends.

for for 2 years. Obviously, it's online. her attendance. And she is randomly. pictured at a celebrity dentist this. year, as well. Dr. V. And Dr. V says she's gorgeous and that. she's going to be in the Ocean's Eight. movie. That she got cast in there. Erica was. not in the Ocean's Eight movie as far as. I could see. She was not in the credits, but that is.

what this post says and that is that. Just sharing that with you. Again, we reflect on that year and we. have no idea. what the heck Erica Kirk does for a. living. Okay? What is she doing for a living? Who's. paying her? How is she getting paid? What is she doing? The only clue that we. have is that she's involved with Next. Model Management. Managing. perhaps managing apartments. for Eastern European models and I'm not.

entirely sure what qualifies her to do. that even. Again, we went out and did not get an. answer for that. 2018, we have got to talk about. Cuz I I actually had to calm down after. learning this because it's. Okay. Going to calm down again. 2018 begins with Erica ringing the New. Year with Cabot Phillips, her boyfriend. and Lori are going to ring in the New. Year together. So, they are it's just. stunning when you just consider her.

saying she never dated while she was in. New York. It's like, you mean. somebody I think made actually the joke. like she never dated. you know, somebody who wasn't famous or. somebody who didn't have a platform. Like she wasn't dating nobodies, you. know what I mean? >> [laughter]. >> Which I thought was hilarious. Anyway, I. wanted to jump this put this into the. timeline that it's on April 7th that. Charlie predicts his own death and says. that he knows that it is going to be. associated with Turning Point USA. I. just find that point to be very.

interesting. And. he says I I if I tell you the true. prophecy I know in my gut it's really. sad. I I hope it's wrong. He goes on to. say, I'm not sure I am going I will live. to see the end of this revolution. I. believe you were the piece of God meant. for me to meet that will finish the. fight. Since the beginning of TPUSA, I. knew in my gut that I might get wiped. out at any time. I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time, like. all the time. Anyway, that's depressing.

convo for another time. Uh and then he says, "I'm not really. afraid of it, but I'm just telling you. what I know to be true.". There's something sobering to me when I. look at that on my timeline and realize. that he messages that to me on April. 7th, 2018. And then so much happens. I told you I. had I said to you that there was. something about Kanye's tweet that sort. of ripped a hole in reality and I felt. like agents were suddenly sent to us. That was me just explaining to you how I. felt things changed. A lot of fake. people started surrounding us and it. felt like they were trying to.

artificially pull us apart. It is then just a couple of weeks later. after predicting his death that Kanye. tweets, "I love the way Candace Owens. thinks." Um which like I said, you had. to be there cuz we were just kind of. wrapping and I said I kept telling him. that he was going to. Kanye was going to come over and I'm. telling you like I think he's. conservative. Then. uh. we learn from Erica that her and her. mother go to Israel on pilgrimage.

in Jerusalem and they see Charlie at the. airport. Like that was just a natural. thing and her mother says, "Well, you. should go up to him and you should say. something." And then Erica ultimately. decides not to and you know, I always. thought that story was interesting cuz I. was with Charlie at the airport and I. I don't remember. her mentioning that she saw Charlie just. what by himself at the airport. Anyway, um yeah, that timeline is. interesting to me. On August 10th, Erica is then.

Well, just saw him in May, but then. she's going to see him again at Turning. Point USA's office opening. She gets. invited by Tyler. who she doesn't know how she knows, but. he introduces her very quickly to. Charlie. I am there. I am there for the. grand opening. I think I remember. quickly meeting her at some point. And uh we don't really know why she's. there because remember, she's living in. New York. Uh I I guess you know, her family's. there, you go back home, but don't you. have a job? What is your job? What do you do for a.

living? And this is around the same time that. Erica is communicating that she's doing. deals, real estate deals with her family. uh to various people. Then comes September where once again it. is arranged by Tyler Boyer for Erica to. meet Charlie. This time one-on-one for a. job. And in retrospect, this really. bothers me because that's not how job. interviews happened at Turning Point. USA. You were not taken to meet the CEO.

of the company at a restaurant in New. York. Uh that's just not how job. interviews work at all, actually. Like. why would you do that? Like okay. And. they sit down and Erica says everything. perfect and amazing and exactly the. things that Charlie wants to hear. And there begins their relationship, you. could say, like in September when they. meet at that restaurant. Then comes October 24th and Erica.

somehow becomes a licensed real estate. agent in New York and is immediately. employed by Corcoran Real Estate Group. And we went back and people have reached. out to us. Erica, it looks like did a. total. of. three possible rentals under somebody. else. Like she wasn't even the main. realtor. I I don't understand that. I don't. understand how she's working for. Corcoran Real Estate and doing real. estate deals and she does this on.

October 24th. I want to point to you. October 30th. I told you that suddenly people were. trying to pull me and Kanye and Charlie. apart. You just felt it, okay? And out of nowhere Cha uh. Kanye who did actually help me design. the Blexit logo uh in Chicago. he was getting an insane amount of. pressure and told that he could not get. in involved in politics. He's putting on. the MAGA hat. Things are going crazy. I. think uh Kim was threatening divorce at. some point if I recall correctly. And.

Kanye cracks and he tweets a series of. tweets. He writes, "I introduced Candace. to the person who made the logo and they. didn't want their name on it, so she. used mine. I never wanted any. association with Blexit. I have nothing. to do with it." He then follows that up. by saying, "My eyes are now wide open. and now realize that I have been used to. spread messages that I don't believe in. I am distancing myself from politics and. completely focusing on being creative.". And let me tell you, this was one of the. hardest things for me to go through. I. mean, I love love Ye, love him now, but.

like it was just A, it was untrue and. allowed people to then I mean, every. single article, "Candace lied." You. know, and I actually have a photo of me. and Kanye in the Trump Hotel in Chicago. and I didn't know what was happening and. I you know, at the time called a friend. and they were like, "You don't know what. he's going through and what sort of. pressure he's going through." And. Charlie and me were just devastated. We. were devastated by this because it made. us look like we were liars, okay? And it.

we were in a position where people. wanted to see us fall, okay? Why am I. telling you this? I get reached out So I mean, somebody. reached out to me. I [snorts] get reached out to by. a young woman in New York. And she says to me that. at this time, she said, "Oh, you know, Erica knew Kanye.". And I said, "Erica didn't know Kanye. What are you talking about? Erica never. knew Kanye." She said, "No, Erica knew. Kanye.". And I said, "Op, she wasn't even in the. picture in April when Charlie and I were.

doing all the Kanye stuff. She's never. been with him in some pictures, whatever. What are you referring to?". And I just assumed that this was like. maybe something that Erica said. You. know, she lies all the time. Maybe she. was just like, "Oh, now I date this guy. now, whatever." And then she says, "No, I have like actual proof that when all. that stuff was going down with you and. Kanye and Charlie that Erica was back. dialing and telling people that. she knew the people that were around.

Kanye that she had family that was. around Kanye and pushed for that tweet. to go out.". Okay. >> [snorts]. >> So I said, "Can you get me some proof of. that?". And this young woman in New York got me. the proof of that. Proof that at the. very least Erica was making that claim.

What I can tell you is that neither me. nor Charlie. nor Kanye knew that Erica knew someone. on Kanye's team. that and now who knows if it's her real. family or her Nicole Rothstein family or. she just calls everybody family. but you're telling me she's playing like. she's some cute new girlfriend watching. us go through this entire thing being. absolutely heartbroken. and yet she's like on the side telling. people that she knows like why that went.

out. She knows why why Kanye like his hand. was forced. Let me tell you guys right now. I'm. going to say something right now. I will find out who in Kanye's circle. knew Erica when that tweet went out. I will find out. I will I will call Ye. and I will find out. I will figure out. who how duplicitous this woman is. That she is playing the role of, "Oh my. gosh, I'm so sorry that this is.

happening to you." while telling people. that she's playing she knows the other. side of it. People that are pressuring. Ye to do this. Okay? It took me a lot to process that. Like I said, I am would not put this out. here unless I was 100%. certain of it. I am at 100%. certainty that that is what Erica told. Um. This young woman had receipts.

So she in my book, Erica is a whole. fraud. Just a whole fraud and then to. jump back into this timeline, look at. this. We don't know what she's doing. Suddenly, she gets her real estate. license and I'm just going to say that. it's long been understood that real. estate is a really easy way, a really. uh easy means to move money. Okay? So she sits down with Charlie. Suddenly, she gets her real estate. license. Um yeah, Kanye's tweeting. "Peace out, Blexit." Erica uh then films.

Summer House, but look at December 31st, though. December 31st, the end of the year. Feed Me Incorporated is formed. Feed Me Incorporated will eventually. become Superfeed Technologies. Superfeed. Technologies is the company that both uh. Erica's mother and Tyler Boyer are on. the board of. Okay? So. that's interesting that that company. gets formed.

uh as Erica starts dating Charlie. That. company is formed and these people know. each other. These people all know each other. Um. it's it's her one. blind spot. She just can't That's her. one category that she can't remember is. how she knows Tyler Boyer even though he. is in business with her mother and has. her at the behind Trump in 2015. It is. my personal opinion that a deal was. done. Uh when I look at the evidence, when I. look at everything I'm looking at, when.

I see how duplicitous she was and I know. that Charlie did not know these things. cuz I was there. I was the closest person to Charlie. while he was dat- while he was beginning. to date Erica, okay? No one spent more. time with him or spoke to him more. He. did not know these things about Erica. Kirk or Erica Frandsen was her name at. the time. We had no idea that she was. telling people that she knew the people. that were in Kanye's orbit when he sent. that tweet out.

Something is not right. We all know. something is not right and I am just. just aghast at the people who are going. to pretend continue to pretend like all. of this is perfectly normal. Anyway, we. should take a a brief pause before we. continue. We'll be right back. All right, you guys, if you've been. following me for a while, then you know. how much I love Riverbend Ranch steaks. If you have not tried them yet, now is. the perfect time because not only are. they delicious, but beef has just been. placed on the top of the food pyramid by. the USDA. Beef is a complete protein and.

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much been on the side of how dare you, how dare you talk to a grieving widow, kind of making claims that various data. points being introduced like, oh, Erica. lied pathologically. Uh, there may have been this billion. dollar motive to have Charlie Kirk. killed, that Erica lied about the fact. that her husband texted multiple people. the night before he said he feared he. was going to be killed. His overriding. point is that these various points are. not evidence, right? How a widow is.

behaving, whether she's grieving. correctly, these things. uh, cannot be introduced in court. And. yet, yesterday, he tweeted this. regarding a murder that took place in. Utah. I I was just. very interested. He wrote, and this is. regarding Kouri Richins, a New York Post article that said, "Grief author Kouri Richins found guilty. of fatally poisoning her husband for his. $4 million estate." And Matt Walsh. comments and writes, "There's no good. moral reason why she should not simply. be taken outside the morning after her.

conviction and hanged. This woman has lost her right to exist.". Okay, those that's strong words. So, I was just stunned by it because I have. to assume he did exactly zero due. diligence on this case, a case that I. actually followed because it was. completely nutty. Now, I'm I'm assuming. he was not aware that after Kouri. Richins murdered her husband, fentanyl. overdose, uh, she at first played the role of a. grieving widow. For an entire year, she.

was not, uh, arrested, suspected in her. husband's death initially at all because. you you know, she's crying, she called. 911. In fact, she was so bold in her. grieving widow stage that she wrote a. book, a children's book regarding. grieving and she did a little local book. tour. where she actually repeats some of the. things that we've heard Erica say like, you know, the nights are the hardest. Take a listen to this ABC clip of Kouri. Richins who had not yet been arrested a.

year later, um, promoting her book. Joining us now is author of Are You With. Me? Kouri Richins [music] to share her. three C's to helping kids cope with. grief. And Kouri, I want to start with. your story. What happened in your. personal life? So, my husband passed. away unexpectedly last year. So, it's. March 4th was a one-year anniversary for. us and, um, he was 39. It completely.

took us all by shock. Um, and we have three little boys, 10, 9, and 6. And, um, you know, we kind of my kids and I kind. of wrote this book on the different. emotions and. grieving processes that we've. experienced last year and, you know, hoping that it can kind of help other. kids, you know, um, deal with this and kind of, you know, find happiness some some way or another.

>> So, you actually wrote this book with. your children. >> I did. And it's only been a year. How. did you process and say you. go from processing death to I need to. write a book and help others? You know, I just watched the struggle. that my kids were going through and I. actually, you know, I went on Amazon and. Barnes & Noble and trying to find. something that we could use to cope at. nights. Nights are the hardest it seems. like for everybody when, you know, dealing with anything, but I just wanted. some story to read to my kids at night.

and I just could not find anything. I. couldn't find anything that really, you. know, suited them or helped them find. comfort and peace and so, you know, I was like, let's just write. one. And so, you know, I took things. that my kids have said to me this last. year and we kind of articulated it and. put it into a story and, you know, just have hopes that it will help other. kids. I mean, I'll I'll tell you guys in. short, this woman was not actually a. grieving widow. She wasn't a grieving.

widow. Matt actually, one could argue. that she may have even been a psychopath. for doing this, being able to do this. after she killed her husband. Uh, March. 4th, 2002 is when her husband, Eric. Richins, was murdered and it took them. until May of 2023 to bring charges. against her. So, more than a year to. build a case and do you know how they, uh, built that case? People who actually. cared about Eric and offered, uh, various details and, you know, to the. point that.

well, none of these points and various. details about how Erica is grieving. would ever survive in the court of law. Ironically, in this case against Kouri. Richins, for which she was ultimately. found guilty, the prosecutors played the. 911 call and said explicitly that it. didn't sound like a grieving widow. Okay, take a listen. We're going to listen to the first part, actually most of the 911 call again. I ask that as you listen to it, you'll hear the first minute.

The first minute is not the sound of a. wife becoming a widow. To echo her friend Chelsea Barney, the first minute is the sound of a wife. becoming a black. widow. Her own friend. said she's not grieving right. She. sounds like she's become a black widow, not a widow. And it gets even crazier. They weren't even able to prove how she.

poisoned her husband. Check out this. headline. Okay, prosecutors in Kouri. Richins murder trial could not prove how. she poisoned her husband. They didn't need to. So, they literally did not know how the. fentanyl got into her husband's body. The article tells us, quote, "To prove. their case, prosecutors relied largely. on circumstantial evidence to tie her to. Eric Richins death. Cases based on. direct evidence are not necessarily. stronger than those that rely on. circumstantial evidence, legal experts. say. Unlike direct evidence such as.

eyewitnesses or recordings of a crime, circumstantial cases require jurors to. determine a defendant's guilt by weaving. together indirect evidence. In Kouri. Richins case In Kouri Richins case, prosecutors focused on potential motives. for Kouri Richins to kill her husband. and the actions they said show that she. had a guilty conscience after his death, both elements that can illustrate a. defendant's state of mind. They also. used digital records to corroborate key. witness testimony, which strengthened. their circumstantial case.

Quote, "All of these things together. start to add up and the prosecution. builds this huge mountain." End quote. And, uh, you should know that in this. particular case, they relied on things. like the fact that she was in financial. distress, that she had been having an. affair, that he apparently wanted a. divorce, um, that she was, as you heard, grieving differently or not at all. They. also found a life insurance policy that. they deemed to be fraudulent. Now, I'm. sure her attorney argued that it was. just a clerical error or whatever, uh,

but they found it to be fraudulent and. of course, she was set to inherit. millions with him gone. The star witness in the case was. actually a housekeeper named Carmen who. testified how Kouri would come to her. and ask her to buy drugs on her behalf. which allowed them to then speculate if. this is how she got her hands on an. illicit street drug. Now, all that is not to suggest that. Eric directly murdered Charlie. But it. is to say that were not for Eric Richens.

actual friends, siblings, the. housekeeper, even Kouri Richens friends. who turned on her and said no, something. is not right. She's not behaving correctly. Something. is off. People who were willing to stand. up and do what you guys describe as. immoral or evil. and demanding a further investigation. when nothing makes sense. If they hadn't. compiled those other facts, were it not. for their willingness to show text. messages, private correspondences from. Eric uh showing the messages to the. public to the investigative team and to.

refuse some foregone conclusion that. spouses simply would never have a hand. in the murder of one another which. actually flies in the face of reality. The reality is that you're you're most. likely to be murdered by someone you. know. That's just a fact of life. But were it not for those people who did. not accept the narrative of his. accidental ingestion. of fentanyl. Kouri Richens, the woman that you. believe should be hanged for poisoning. her husband on the basis of.

circumstantial evidence, would probably. today be considered a brave single. mother trying to clean up the mess left. behind by her husband's untimely death. And so what I would say is here is what. I know. Grieving widows do not lie about. threats that their husbands were facing. the night before their deaths. They. don't lie about that stuff. Grieving. widows do not make up quotations that. the surgeon never said about a superman. neck. uh. to manage PR at least of all on the day.

that they're burying their husbands. I. know enough to know that those things. simply don't make sense and I refuse to. pretend otherwise. So since you are now. in the habit of calling people out for. caring, I thought that I should respond. and encourage those people to keep. going. It's okay if you get some things. wrong, but keep going. Go Max, do it for. Charlie. Believe me when I say that. Charlie would want you guys to. Uh we'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys. This episode is. brought to you by Native Path, a. grass-fed collagen for better bones, joints, skin, hair, and nails. Have you.

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our episode yesterday. Number one, I. loved this. Someone wrote, "So we are. not supposed to attack Erica Kouri. because she's a widow, but even though. Joe Kent is a widow, we can attack him. because he is anti-war. Got it.". Look, I don't write the rules, but yeah, they are this ridiculous. They just make. them up as they go along. And Lady Ray. Perlman writes, "The notion of being. called a Nazi because you don't want to. go to war is wild." Yeah, they Nazi just. has no meaning. It's like it's everybody.

We're all Nazis. Okay, cool. Give us our Hugo Boss. Like it's just so. ridiculous. Nazi Nazi It has no meaning. It doesn't land. Nobody cares anymore. Like there is just no appetite for being. shocked when someone is called a Nazi. anymore. Uh. also jumping into comments for this. episode. Actually, I do want to shout out some. people. I I want to say that this series. has been made possible by just so many. people around the world that have given. us little tidbits, people online who. have similarly been fighting for justice. for Charlie. And all of these small.

accounts, I just feel like they're never. going to get a ton of credit for the. things that they have done and how they. have assisted various things. So today I. just wanted to shout out and I I should. be doing more shout outs, but um. _lindsmac. on Twitter goes by realtruthrealjustice. I I just wanted to shout her out in in. particular um for the hashtag. hashtagjusticeforcharlie. There are so. many accounts that are like this and uh. Lindsmac is a real one. I'll leave it at. to that. Uh and to get into today's. comments after uh Mrs. W writes, "After.

the last two episodes, I'm starting to. wonder if you're pregnant again. Pregnant Candace is fire and I'm so here. for it. Love you so much. Go Max.". That's so funny. My PR person called me. and told me that he said the exact same. thing this morning and I was like, "Man, I really have a pregnant reputation.". Like if I'm. I'm just getting I have been fired up. lately. Seriously, I feel you guys. I. Everyone saying that is so funny though. I see you guys in the comments. She must. be pregnant. She must be pregnant. Jenna. Ped writes, "I so wish I could hear you. speak and pray tomorrow at the Catholic. for Catholics event. I have been.

offering my daily masses for you and. your family, offering my mass for you. tomorrow on the Feast of Saint Joseph. Truth wins. Christ is king. Mary is. Queen of Heaven and Earth. Keep going, Max." Thank you so much. And also all of. the emails. from Catholic girls make me so happy. I. did want to show this email, not the. email, but the picture cuz it made me. really happy. I hope she doesn't mind. It was just one of our fans, Cradle. Catholic. She purchased our I told my. priest I would show a sweatshirt and. then like snapped a picture with her. priest and it's just adorable. So I just. wanted to show that.

And she's like, "I'm like you. I'm super. feisty." And they just look very happy. here. It just was a a bright spot in my. morning. So there you have it. Speaking. of which, if you would like to get your. own gear, your own kit, we've actually. just dropped our make him a sandwich. line in all of our gear which looks. really good, by the way. Look at online. That's my favorite. Got that for the people that actually. cook like I do. Look at that. It's very good quality. We are are stepping the game up. Look at. that. Um you guys can head to candaceowens.com.

and yeah, there's a lot of great stuff. We are We are really trying to step it. up, step up the merch game this year. So. I hope you guys enjoy that. Um. Josie writes, "Oh, I'm sorry. James. first." James The Least writes, "Joe. Kent, Kouri Prejean Bowler, Candace, and. others are going to witness for faith. tomorrow on enemy territory. Surround. and protect them with your prayers. Christ is king." Truly do pray. I mean, it's just like I said, so crazy the way. that they have attacked this event and. it's always the gangstalking. It's the. phone calls. It's like, "Why are. Catholics not allowed to meet and pray?".

This is not a political event. We were. not billing this as like an anti-Israel. event. This is not uh you know, Candace. giving up getting up and giving her. usual uh political. speech anywhere. And it's been just uh. particularly vicious uh toward Catholics. actually. General Flynn is also speaking. and he wrote a Substack yesterday about. how Catholics have been under attack and. it's despicable. It really is. despicable. Like Catholics can meet and. get together. And by the way, I want to. say that for everyone who's not a. Zionist, like there are also a ton of.

Jewish people who are not Zionists. I've. been getting um. definitely an increase in emails from. Jewish people who are getting it. They're just like, "Why are we attached. to Israel? Like what is this? Like why. are Why do we have to account for what. Bibi Netanyahu is doing? He's a criminal. and he's doesn't He's not even. practicing Jew. It's It's completely. absurd. And all that stuff is just meant. to divide us. Um Eamon Callan writes, "Romans 12:2 is. such a powerful passage. Now it's time. we all let the word of Lord Jesus Christ. renew our minds and stop being led by. the ways of the world." I think that's.

happening. I'm I'm super optimistic. I. think we all are sort of waking up and. realizing that fighting each other um is. only benefits the elite, the Epstein. class, so to speak. Uh this user writes, "Remember the note that Erica found on. Charlie's desk? Read how it said. loneliness. It makes you wonder if. something must have been happening. behind closed doors." I mean, I've told. you guys the truth which is that they. did not have this how she bills it as. this like super happy marriage and. whatever. He wanted to go. I was fine. with it. And I just it that's that's. fake. Okay? I didn't say it when it was first.

going down, but like it it now that I'm. just seeing how she lies and having. learned about the Kanye thing. I can't. I can't even go halfway. I. can't even I I can't even go 10% with. the fakeness and uh she's just a. fundamentally dishonest person um who. should not be at the helm of that. company. Or any company, actually. I don't even. know what she's ever done in life. I. can't figure out I don't know her. timeline. Um. who is Erica Kouri? Couldn't tell you. Honestly couldn't tell you. Other anything other than the fact that. there are a lot of problems with her. alibi on um September 8th and on.

September 10th what she says that she. was doing. And that will be our series. finale. um on this um you know, the Eric Kirk. series, the Bride Bride of Chucky. We're not going to see you guys because. I'm doing this Catholic event. We will. not see you guys uh tomorrow. We will. also not see you guys on Friday cuz we. don't do Fridays. So, we will see you on. Monday for that series finale finale. We'll see you guys then. >> [music].