AND ANOTHER ONE: Charlie's Text On September 9th. | Candace Ep 299

All right, you guys. Happy Friday. We. are going on a journey today. You know, I like it's going to be a good episode. when I start that way. I'm looking at. everything. The pieces are coming. together. I'm asking myself, you're. asking yourselves, is this a scam of. biblical proportions? Emphasis on the. biblical. Because from the very. beginning of this investigation, I. always said there was something wrong. with Turning Point faith. That's when. Turning Point made a turning point, so. to speak. feels a bit scoopy, like a.

psychological operation, almost as. though faith is being intentionally. hijacked. Um, Dr. Frank Turk, by the. way, went on another rant about me. He's. getting to sound a little bit like Bobby. Buché's mom. If you guys have seen Water. Boy, everything is the devil. Gen Zones. is the devil. He says I'm Satan because. I'm confusing. It's just crazy how the. truth can confuse people. What is it. about the truth that is confusing people. in this moment? Now, before we get into. Frank Turk, I first have to share with.

you a very scary story. Something that. happened the day after Charlie's. memorial. And yes, it's going to include. another text message from him. This. time, uh, sent on September 9th. So, welcome back to Candace.

You know, Turning Point has a lot of. money. Enough money to have not just a. PR person, but then to have an entire. orbit of people who are being paid to. push their talking points like Paramount. Tactical. The They also have a crisis PR. team. They I was told that actually by. Erica that they hired a crisis PR team. because you know Andrew had made all. those mistakes. But I have to say all of. those people appear to be in struggle. city at this moment. They are struggling. to come up with a way to explain.

a way a way a way to explain the calls. that we saw, the Zoom calls that we. shared, the laughter, the smiling. They're wondering how exactly they can. go about gaslighting the public into. believing that all of that is perfectly. normal 5 and a half days after your. husband was publicly executed in front. of the world. Which is why I want to. shout out the Daily Mail, okay? Because. no one has been working harder than the. Daily Mail to invert reality. And I got. to tell you, this was a difficult one. for them. It was not easy, but they did.

their best with this article. Check out. this headline. The definitive truth. about Erica Kirk's tears, the leather. pants, and her new fortune as Candace. Owens drops quote unquote giggling phone. call in wake of Charlie's death. Well, I. said it's the definitive truth. Look no. further. Nothing says I'm the truth. Quite like when a journalist comes out. and says it, right? It you it could be. nothing else. No way. This is going to. be a lie. So definitive. You don't have. to look any further. Here's what the.

article says. This is amazing. This is. funny. This will lighten your mood. Quote, "The Daily Mail has spoken with. several experts on grief and so-called. grief policing about the recent. obsession that many Americans have. developed with Kirk's behavior as a new. widow. Love that already. Love that we. have a term grief policing. I love that. you can always rely on a new. psychological phenomena to be spun out. by the media." This is the problem is. actually you guys for noticing.

And then it says, "And as her critics. will likely be disappointed to learn, those experts say judgments about Kirk. reveal less about her, less about her. true state of mind and much more about. the broader national discomfort with. death, especially the kind of violent, widely broadcast killing that took her. husband down." Quote, this is a quote. from an expert, guys. It reflects our. mourning avoidant, emotion phobic. culture where people tend to make all.

sorts of quick uninformed judgments. about how people are supposed to grieve, says Dr. Allen Wolft, a Colorado-based. death educator and grief counselor. Shout out to Dr. Allen because that this. is a tough job and he's saying a lot of. words. He's doing what he's learned at. school is just say a bunch of words, call people bunch of names. He's like, "This is super califragilistic. ispialociousness.". Yeah. The ism, the the. caladocious abracadobra abracadabra.

dabda doo doo dab dah ism is what. everyone's suffering from. Anyways, it. goes on the article. The experts, so. step aside, losers, the experts are. here. The experts at the Daily Mail. spoke to were quick to note that Kirk. has been an easy target for people who. don't share her or her husband's staunch. political or religious views. There is, they say, also an aspect of sexism at. play. Another quote, another therapist. This guy says, "Widows are uniquely.

grief policed. Their appearance, their. tone, and behavior, said LA grief. therapist Bidwell Smith." Okay, Bidwell. He says there's this cultural belief. that a good widow should look really. collapsed and devastated, but grief is. not a performance and survival is not a. moral failure. When grieving, people can. hyperfunction as Kirk has appeared to. do. People throw a lot of negative. judgment on that, thinking that they. feel nothing when internally, privately, they may be collapsing and not really.

show it," Bidwell Smith added. Dr. Wolf. similarly suspects that Kirk's. insistence on getting up and getting. dressed and putting on makeup and. fighting for something she believes in. every day is a classic emotional. survival tactic. And so first I want to. say that's amazing when I actually. thought about that when they're like the. problem is you and you guys are sexist. is first and foremost it was the women. that came out first and said I don't. like this for some reason. I want to. remind you of that. Secondly, I had to. go backward in my own mind because I'm.

close to this situation. And I was like, may maybe there is maybe there is some. objective sexism here. Let me think. about that. And then I remembered. another death that deeply impacted the. entire world. Literally, I did not know. this man, never met this man, and felt. like I knew him. And I boohoo cried in. my bed. uh when Kobe Bryant died in the. helicopter. I remember this day like. exactly where I was crying hysterically. because I was a huge Lakers fan growing. up and I just always admired uh Kobe.

Bryant. This is before I was Catholic. He's Catholic. And I never for a single. second do I remember the conversation. being about his wife being. inappropriate. In fact, there was a. memorial. It didn't happen 11 days. later. It happened a month later and she. it was. there were no fireworks, there were no. pyrochnics, there were uh she was. agrieved and I went back and I listened. to this speech and I had to stop. watching it because I almost cried. again. It was in a eulogy. It was parts.

of Kobe that no one could know other. than his wife. uh when she spoke about. her daughter and what she would never. get to experience because her daughter. was now gone, she spoke about not being. able to be at her wedding. I mean, it's. it's I can't even talk about it because. it was again this go you should. challenge yourself to go watch that. speech. you should go watch Vanessa's. speech at the memorial um and see if you. recognize some differences because I.

realized that I was so traumatized by. Charlie's um I I actually wasn't being. objective. I wasn't being objective and. realizing these things early on that I. think some of the public was recognizing. right away. And something else that is. interesting about Vanessa is she went. through the anger period. Vanessa was. suing everybody. She was suing people. who released the photos. She was suing. the helicopter company even though the. guy who ran the company was actually the. one flying the plane. He died. I. actually remember thinking, "Wow, like.

she like she's I I personally thought. this is not going to bring him back.". But I understood that phase of anger. She was angry at the sheriff's. department. Like you knew what time it. was. Like talk about an investigation. She was doing that. Nobody was invited. into her home least of all the New York. Times. And when she gave her first. interview, just so you know, that wasn't. until 4 months later in April, and they. were not invited into her home. And it. was because she was accepting on behalf. of Kobe him being inducted into the Hall.

of Fame. So, I just wanted to give you. some compare and contrast because the. sexism thing is completely ridiculous. and you can step you could just. completely uh sidestep that. And another. thing that I wanted to point out as I. was kind of examining that was I went. back and I went, "Wow, the speech is so. beautiful and I'm learning so much about. who Kobe was." Because to me, he was a. basketball player and he was a leader. and I loved that he spoke different. languages and there were so many things. I loved about Kobe. I I thought he was I. just thought he was brilliant. Um, and.

but I didn't I didn't know him. and she. when she's giving in all of these. examples and the things that he would do. around the house and who he was and who. they were, I by the end of that felt. like I knew Kobe behind the scenes. And. then I sort of went back and I revisited. and just read the transcript of Erica's. speech and I am actually in retrospect. quite amazed by how much was really. about Turning Point USA and what was. going to happen going forward. And you. don't actually when you read the. transcript learn anything about Charlie. other than Turning Point USA and what's.

going to happen going forward. Even in. the first speech that she gave next to. his chair, she talks about Turning Point. USA and what we can do for the. organization, right? As if comparing it. if Vanessa got up and said, "Here's what. you can do for the Lakers organization. today. Here is what the Lakers are going. to do. Lakers 2.0. Here's the Lakers. This is what Kobe love to play. basketball. Here's what you can do for. the sport of basketball." I think that. is the reason people were immediately. off-put because it wasn't a eulogy. It.

wasn't speaking about those parts and. and those pieces of him. Um yeah, and. yeah, watching it in retrospect was. something different. And I'm going to. let you listen to again this this piece. about Turning Point USA. What was this. 36 hours after Charlie was assassinated? Maybe it was 48 hours after he was. assassinated. Take a listen. My favorite. my my favorite too, but my husband's. favorite word in the English language. was earn. He would call all of you to be people of.

action who earn the future America. deserves. So to all of the young people who felt. inspired by my husband's faith in hard. work. all of you already know what Charlie. would want you to do. You know. you know. if you're in high school or if you're in. college, go find your local Turning. Point USA chapter.

Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. And you can. You can. The movement's not going. anywhere. And it will only grow stronger. when you join it. If there isn't a chapter, you can't find. one, then start one. There is no excuse. You can start one. And as my husband. used to say in this room every single. day, if you want to get involved, the.

best way you can do that is going to. tpusa.com. That's what he would say every day from. this chair every single day. I watched. his show every day and he would always. say, "If you want to get involved, go to. tpusa.com.". If you're a pastor, join our movement at. TPUSA faith. And if you're a parent, I. highly recommend that you come to. America Fest in December. Sign up right now for that because we. would love to see you. I would love to. see you. Charlie would he'll be there.

He'll be there in spirit. >> That's three web addresses. Here's how you can sign up. Here's what. you can do. And I I now in retrospect. I don't know. I'm I'm at a loss for. words. And then it's the same thing with. the speech. There's it's a lot about. Turning Point USA and Turning Point USA. as if that's just who he was. Like there. was no person other than a business. And. I'm telling you that because I now want. to pivot into telling you I think kind.

of a scary story heading into the. weekend. A little terrifying story. Maybe because I'm a little biased here. Okay. Catholic. And this just disturbs. me a little bit more. I promise. Um, you. know, I'm wearing my this uh sweatshirt. I told the priest I would chill. I told. the priest I would chill. We had. somebody message us and say, "You should. you should be uh making these. sweatshirts." And it's real. I do. actually like I'm being always sincere. when I say that. Um, but this is a story. that involves a priest and I promise. after this I'm going to chill for the. weekend because I think this story is so.

crazy I need time to process it because. again it involves Catholics and we're. up. Sorry guys, it brings me no pleasure. to report. So Catholics, if you're watching, take a. listen. I got an email from a woman, Catholic woman, back in October, and the. email did not sit right with me. spiritually. There was a lot going on. though. I was obviously in survival mode. mentally. I flagged the email. I filed. it away in this inbox that I just this.

is I need to address this later. It's. important. And I then decided to revisit. it and to respond to the woman and to. process what it was that had initially. disturbed me. Now, I'm going to read you. this email and I am going to protect um. information of of people today. Uh, I'm. not going to be giving out any names. because it doesn't actually change the. story any. Uh, this person wrote, "Dear. Candace, firstly, thank you and may God. bless you and protect you for everything. that you do. I pray for you every day.

and I thank God for you bringing the. light of truth and Christ to this world. I attended the memorial and I ended up. sitting next to Father Blank. He was. actually the priest that flew with Erica. to Utah. He was with her when they. called her that he did not make it. prayed over him. She actually asked him. to pray the rosary there at the hospital. and he said the homaly at the private. funeral the Friday before the memorial. Now, in hindsight, it is strange to me. that he was just put in the crowd at the.

memorial, but then again, he may have. wanted that. I was at the memorial. having zero personal or prior. involvement or engagement with Turning. Point USA or anyone from there. and I. ended up sitting next to Father Blank. and then with Erica at mass the next. day. I truly believe it is complete. divine intervention. I prayed at the. time and each day after exactly this. God, I see and feel you are leading me. I know there is a purpose. I don't know. what it is or where you are taking me,

but I'm following with complete. surrender and faith to your holy will. I'll try to I'll try to best email this. with the relevant relevant details and I. think that it may help. I was watching. your podcast as I'm finishing up work. and I had to pause it when you played. Alex Clark's interview because it. honestly made my stomach hurt how. untruthful what they were saying was and. I felt strong conviction to write you. I've never emailed a person I don't know. in my life but I'm following this. conviction. I spent a good eight hours sitting with. Father Blank. I'm shy generally and was.

sitting with empty seats around me in. the third row from the stage. So when I. saw the priest walking by and looking. like he didn't know where he was going, I said, "Hi, Father. I'm also Catholic. If you need a seat, this one's empty.". Whether he wanted to or not, he sat. down. He seemed like a holy priest, soft-spoken, but so sincere and genuine. He prayed in silence throughout and. would smile and say, "Charlie wouldn't. believe this." Looking around the. stadium, it was like he was going. through a roller coaster of emotions. right there. where he shared stories of.

Charlie attending mass and him spending. a lot of time with Erica and Charlie. As. Erica was taking talking on stage, father held his hands towards her was. praying over her for protection and. strength. Tears going down his face from. his stories and messages from Charlie. that he showed me. It seemed like he was. probably the closest person in that room. to Charlie and to Erica. Yet, he was. sitting with me like any other guest. Like I said, in hindsight, it just feels. so off still. At some point during one of our.

conversations, we spoke about the daily. mass at his parish because I wanted to. go on Monday before I flew back to. Chicago. Uh he said yes, at 8:30 a.m. there would be mass. To be honest, I. wasn't sure if I was going to make it, but then I saw a text from him at 6:30. a.m. saying, "Hope to see you at mass.". I knew it was my sign to just make it. work and go. There were about six people. at the 8:30 a.m. mass that Monday, the.

large church of blank. I sat in the. first row, and I felt God's presence so. powerfully the entire mass that I. couldn't stop the tears from flowing. I. didn't cry at the memorial, but I I wept. quietly the entire mass. Afterward, I. stayed to pray a while longer. Lights. were starting to turn off, and I looked. back, and I noticed a tall bodyguard in. the back along with Erica and a. middle-aged woman that was sitting by. her. At that moment, I went back to. prayer and I said, "God, if you'd like. for her and I to connect or speak, please bring us together. If not, I will.

pray for her and I'll head out." I did. not want to disrupt her, but also I had. an intense knowledge of how much God's. hand was present throughout the last two. days. A minute or two later, as I was. still in prayer, I had a tap on my. shoulder by a woman. I believed it was. an assistant. I can't remember what it. is she does. She said, "Would you like. to join Erica?" Candace, at that moment, I thought, "Okay, God, I hear you. I've. never had so much peace while blindly. surrendering to God's will. Maybe I. have, but I haven't ever seen it so.

clearly in action." I hugged Erica. I. sat next to her in the last pew, and I. just had the most beautiful. conversation. She mentioned that Charlie. went to mass with her there and that. Father Don would open the church up for. him there often when Charlie just wanted. to pray and reflect without being. disrupted and that he was with her the. entire time from Arizona to Utah in the. hospital etc. I have so much I could. share on all of the little miracles, but. I just want to say that today I felt. compelled to send this to you. And so.

I'm listening to my conviction in. sending this and I am hoping that the. Holy Spirit and both of our guardian. angels will direct this message as it is. intended per God's will. I have to say I. uh felt more realness from Erica in my. exchange with her in that church than. from the memorial. I saw her at mass again on Tuesday. I. ended up staying an extra day because I. had relics from St. Paul II that my mom.

wanted to give Erica flown there. I. coordinated someone to fly it to me and. then I gave it to her. Okay, I am going. to. end it there. Now, why do you think that uh that email. disturbed me and made me file it? Just. check in the chat here. What what is not. right with that email? And I'll tell. you, it wasn't the person who wrote it.

that disturbed me. I blanked out over. her name because I'm going to tell you. now that the person who tapped on her. shoulder who she thought was an. assistant. was Stacy Sheridan. That was what disturbed me about the. email and made me file it right away. because I knew exactly what happened and. I did not have the heart to tell her. what had happened because I know who. Sace Sheran is. know what I told Charlie. about Stacy Sheridan. I've seen her. work. I've been at events with her. I.

knew that Stacy would have only done. that if the girl who was writing me this. email had a boatload of money. Didn't. even need to look up this person or the. email. I knew that they had that girl. clocked before she walked into memorial. I don't think actually it was God that. sat her where she was sat. three rows. in. She was amazed by all of this. Oh, I. don't even know anybody here. Here I am. I don't even know Charlie. I don't know. anybody about Turning Point USA. Here I.

am sitting at the front and oh my gosh, this moment and and and you know, Erica. won't even speak to this after turning. point USA. But Stacy Sheridan, would you. like to would you like access to the. grieving widow? I knew I knew and I. filed it. I knew something was wrong. And then when I went to go revisit all. these things I had filed and I saw this, I went, "Oh my gosh, this makes me so. sick." And I knew that I had to reach. out to this person and I had to say it. Um, hey, don't know anything about you, but I'm going to assume you have a lot. of money, and it breaks my to tell you.

this, but you were targeted. Uh, they. would have known everything about you. That's how they work. Before everyone is. seated, Stacy Sheridan's job literally. is to know everything about that person, their net worth. She she'll know your. dad's net worth, your mom's net worth. She would tell Charlie. She whisper in. Charlie's ear. That person runs. soahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. blah blah blah and then Charlie would go. have the conversation. That was the. whole reason they brought her on. That's. what Stacy's brilliant at. Smelling. money truly. Uh and so I uh had a.

conversation. I said and actually when. we finally broke this conversation uh. she had already arrived to that. conclusion. So that was back in October. sent the email. And so my message to. her, she said, "Yeah, I I kind of. figured this all out now." And uh I. said, "You got a lot of money?" "Yeah, got a lot of money." Uh how much money. we talking? Dad sold a huge business. She runs a massive business. They are. wealthy. Extraordinarily wealthy. And I. said, "Now, let's go through how this. all really happened because you were.

targeted. And um I'd like to know how. you ended up at the memorial." And so. she tells me a story of how that all. happened. And I'm going to walk you. through it because I think it is uh. one of the more disgusting and. disturbing things that I've heard. throughout the story. Maybe I'm taking. it more personally because I am Catholic. and I'm happy to be biased in that way, but I I think you will tend to agree. with me here. So just so there's no. confusion, she was obviously telling the. truth. She even supplied evidence uh in. the form of a text message that the.

priest that she was sitting next to had. shared with her. This is Charlie's text. message. She's on a group chat with. Erica and the priest. And this is the. morning of September 9th. Now, Erica has. been telling the truth when she says. that Charlie would send uh messages and. have biblical verses. I have tons with. Charlie. They were typically relevant to. whatever we were going through, a verse. of encouragement uh to keep going, to. keep fighting. And here is the message. that he chose to share. Again, group. chat between him and Erica. September.

9th, it is 1 Corinthians. Paul's letter. to the Corinthians 16:9 and it reads for. a wide door for effective work has. opened to me and there are many. adversaries. Just find that message in general to be. interesting because it is him. acknowledging that his opportunities. have bred him enemies who were the. adversaries. I I find that to be. interesting that message was shared. anyway. So I said, "How did you actually.

arrive?" because people were waiting in. the rain for tickets and so there had to. be a little bit of inside baseball here. Um, and then she said, "Oh, well, actually I was at a different event, a. marketing event when Charlie was shot. and was networking with some people that. were involved. It was it was a. conference event with some people that. were orbiting around like PBD's podcast. That part's not exactly that relevant to. the story because these they're.

marketing people. they're kind of doing. their job. And that person then hooked. her up directly with somebody that they. said could help get her into the venue. She was so struck um emotionally uh. stricken by the Charlie's assassination. like all of us were that she just wanted. to be a part of the memorial. And then. just her luck, somebody said, "Oh yeah, I I can get you in touch with someone. that can get you through the door and. that's going to be great." And so I also. just want to show you this because in. retrospect she reads it and she realizes.

that she's being manipulated. Right? This is the message. Perfect. I'm going to introduce you via. text to TPUSA's Blank who traveled. everywhere with Charlie handling many of. their big donors. Uh Blank says that. Erica has been getting more death. threats every day. He's promised Erica. that he will run point on raising money. to cover the memorial service, which is. going to cost approximately $6 million. Apparently, Trump had to get personally. involved to secure the Cardinal Stadium, which was planning to host a large and.

lucrative RV show this weekend. So, making up that lost revenue to the. stadium is driving the high cost of this. event. It's uh crazy what their team is. going through right there. Already. emotional manipulation, right? this. idea. You have to rescue Erica. She's. not safe. And oh, by the way, it's going. to be so expensive this thing. She. doesn't even see. She just thinks, "Oh. my god, amazing. I can't believe this.". And doesn't realize that this is like, you know, we'll get you in, but we're.

expecting you to kind of ride check. And. by the way, I do want to address that. lucrative RV show this weekend. I went. back on Wayback Machine, saved. screenshots. There was no RV show that. was on the calendar for this Cardinal. Stadium. Has anybody been able to find. this? We've been told the story a couple. of times now that the White House got. involved and secured the venue and. people started asking questions about. how this was possible to turn around so. quickly uh because there are, you know, tons of policies and booking these sorts. of venues. They don't do things last. minute. This RV show, if you know.

something about it, you were supposed to. attend and had tickets and got an email. and said, "Hey, never mind. It's off.". Please email more tips.com. I need to. know more about this little RV show. Anyway, this idea that it was going to. cost them $6 million to make off the. revenue. Obviously, we know they made a. ton of money. They geofenced everybody's. phones, I can't imagine what just. selling the data uh on that would have. been worth, but interesting to know this. is this is how it gets started. Okay, so. then I Okay, she's sitting in the third.

row and she's now next to the priest and. I asked, "What about the next Let's go. more specifically about how you got uh. to church the next morning because. that's interesting, right? like you. struck up a conversation. You said that. you struck up a conversation, whatever. And that the the priest said, "Yeah, come to mass." Well, the part that she. forgot is that he told her in this text, "Erica might be there. Good morning. I. hope to see you at 8:30 a.m. Uh Erica. may be there, too." Okay, that's an.

interesting text from a priest. Now, she. believes that this is a good guy, and. that's great. And I hope deeply in my. heart that that is true. But I am. beginning to ask questions about that. because it is there's a lot there that's. happening. If I am correct, he also. cancelled his mass on September 10th. Give me just a second cuz I hear my. phone is on. Um that he canled his mass.

on September 10th on that morning. I I. just I'd like to know more. I genuinely. would like to know more. And I don't. understand if a priest is just trying to. get you through the door on a Monday. morning to go to mass why you would say. Erica might be here. And also, why is it. a might? You would know. You more than anyone. would know. You've been with her every. second of every day throughout all of. this. You know whether or not she's. going to be there. You, her, and Stacy. have been rolling pretty deep. So, I I. feel like you knew she was going to be. there. That's my opinion. I genuinely.

hope I'm wrong and I'm open to be wrong, but I have to tell you how I feel about. this. Anyway, she was amazed by this. Um, and she went and then you know what. happens next? She gets a little tap from. Stacy Sheridan who should burst into. flames when she walks into a church. We're being honest. Okay, this woman. what? But think about that. What moved. Stacy Sheridan to tap on this person's. shoulder? Erica told her to do that. Erica gave. her permission to do that. Why would she. randomly go and say tap tap, would you.

like to sit with the grieving widow? That would be the most inappropriate. thing ever. Ever. If you're sitting with. your friend and your friend is grieving. their husband, you would not be like, "Let me go up to a rando that I don't. know and see if they just want to chill. with her." You would want her to have. privacy. Okay? There's a conversation. that took place. Do not play us for. dummies. Don't do it. There was a. conversation that took place between. Erica and Stacy Sheridan. conversation. that I have seen before between Charlie.

and Stacy Sheridan about who that woman. is. That woman was targeted in that. church. Okay, I am not I don't care. Cut. it. Do whatever you want to say. Put it. on Instagram. Oh my god. Clutch your. pearls. I can't believe Yes, you better. believe it. This woman was targeted in a. church after mass. It makes me sick. It. really does. So anyways, she thinks it's. all God. But let me tell you something. Where Stacy Sheridan is, we're going in. the other direction. Okay, we're going. in the other direction. And then she. sits and Erica opens up to her. They're. having this beautiful conversation and.

she then arranges, she was so amazed by. this that she organizes to get a relic. um from St. Michael, the same actually. same cave that sits behind me. And here. is where I actually see God working that. this woman sent me this email and out of. 50,000 emails coming in. I saw this. email. I saved this email and she. happened to have this might have this is. actually I'm just thinking about this. live. I got this relic. When was I in Wyoming? I got it in. Wyoming from the priest in Wyoming.

You're going to have to tell me. I feel. like it was the first weeks of October. and this is when the woman sent me the. email. So, that's just something that. I'm sorry. I just have like a spiritual. vibe about that. That that also is the. relic that she had and she gave to. Erica. So, St. Michael's doing a little. bit of protection here. And I think that. there is a reason that she had to go. through this. Um, even sometimes when. you're going through things like being. scammed, you're there's a reason for. that. And so, this information came to. me. She gives this organizes uh St. Michael's relic and she gets this to. Erica. The next day at mass she doesn't. get to speak to Erica because this time.

another top fundraiser at Turning Point. USA met her there and said, "Hey, you. know, um Erica wanted me to follow up. with you." And she again was so amazed. by God working that she decided to even. message the priest afterward and thank. him. Thank him that she was able to get. this relic to Erica. And I just want to. read you this because. again we her and I might have different. perspectives here but she says I will. always cherish my time with you both so. much. I'm in absolute awe of how God. worked through me to what I believe uh.

was to give Erica those relics. The. experience felt like me directly. witnessing God working through each of. us. I just wanted to send a quick note. to share. Hope to see you soon father. God bless. And response the father said. God bless. Thank you for sharing your. wonderful words. God's fingerprints are. all over what is happening. There is no. doubt that your presence to Erica was a. God moment for both of you. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it one.

bit. There's this. we have to protect Erica. This is God. This is God. What happens there after I. like even less. Um, the intermediary, the person that delivered the relic, another top fundraiser for Turning Point. USA, offered that he was going to be in. the Chicago area. Uh, that's where she. lives in Illinois. And he says, "Hey, I'm going to be there already.". Obviously, Charlie's from Chicago. I'm. sure that was true. Uh, but I'd love to. pop in and see you. And, you know,

you're I'm another we're all committed. in in this faith journey together. And. that happens. And he meets her and he. meets her father. And while he meets. her, he then invites her to the big. gala, the one at Mara Lagu, where. they're going to raise like $42 million. And hears that message, he says, "Thank you for organizing. dinner. It was great to spend time on. the road with great Catholics. I had a. wonderful time and thank you for all the. prayers, especially for Erica. Can I.

call you tomorrow regarding the gala? We. would love to have you guys involved, but we can talk further." Erica repeated. how much she loved meeting you again. Why does this feel to me like. manipulation? Like a a bit of Erica. really needed you. You know, you were. sent from God to Erica with Stacy. Sheridan in the middle of it. Okay. Well, here's what happens next. She uh gets a little nudge when she does. go down to Marago. She's she knows. nothing about Mara Lago and Palm Beach.

And I find this part to be quite funny. Uh dark humor in this because I know. everything about Mara Lago. And it's. like it's like, you know, little Israel. It it really is and um it's where a lot. of the meetings take place. The Zionist. donors, you know, Prager, you doing a. gala down there makes perfect sense. They do that and they were all over. this. Suddenly, she's there and she's. meeting a different Turning Point USA. team. Like she meets them at this. church. It's Catholic, but she notices. there's no Catholic discussion or. presence. Rather, you got Dr. Frank Turk. and apparently, according to her, he's.

on stage and he's hitting he's hitting. at the Judeo Judeo Judeo. They're now. editing their message because they're in. a room with Jews. And suddenly, we don't. want to talk about the Catholicism. We. don't want to talk about faith. We don't. want to talk about relics. We don't want. to talk about St. Michael. No, wrong. crowd for this. Shabbat shalom. Daddy's. home. And so she says to the person, she's. like, "What? You know, why aren't you. guys doing anything with the Catholic. stuff? This was I felt, you know, this. was such a strong Catholic bond." And he. kind of kicks the can down the road and. says, "Oh, we're going to we're planning. on doing stuff in the future." Like, not.

here. Shabbat shalom. Shabbat shalom at Mara Lago and she's. just like no something that this doesn't. this is not my thing over the you know. everyone's dressed the nines and and. it's she's like I don't have an issue. with Israel but this feels like. something else than what I experienced. Um. and then what happens is they follow up. with her and they keep following up with. her because they're they're looking uh. to have a check pretty much. We'd love.

to have a call. Leave another message. for your dad. I look forward to getting. you all involved. I hope all is well. I. want to set up time to visit and discuss. further support. Are you available the. second or third week of February? Hi, I. want to touch base and check in. Let me. know if we could schedule a call. And. she kind of just leaves him on red. because she realizes, yeah, I think I was actually targeted. I think I was actually targeted. And she. was targeted. And but nothing God lets. everything happen. What I will say is.

that God will not be mocked. God will. not be mocked. I'm a I'm a Latterday Saint on a Monday. I'm a Catholic on a Tuesday. I'm I'm. Shabbat Shalom on a Wednesday. God will not be mocked. I I I I see this. for what this is. And there are no. surprises anymore for me. A turning. point faith, the infiltration, it's very. clear. And there is something so. especially sinister about hijacking.

people's faith and their emotion. And. when she expressed that that I normally, you know, I'm a businesswoman. I have my. guard up. But, you know, when it comes. to faith and I'm thinking that this is. all happening, I look back and I go, man, I didn't even process this because. you shouldn't have had to process that. No one should have had to have been. thinking this way. Uh that people were. using our trauma and our emotions and. our spirituality. to manipulate us. Again, God will not be mocked. We'll.

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Frank Turk, I've invited him on the show. many times. Uh he gives me Rabbi Barklay. who I had that debate with when I was. over the Daily Wire and I don't even I. don't dislike Frank Turk because it's. just like they are interesting to hear. them talk and explain things and kind of. getting sensed and they seem worried. about not what they're actually saying. like there's something deeper that's. triggering them and he's been saying a. lot about me and I haven't said much. about him but I wanted to let you hear. um how he correlates me to Satan. Take a.

listen. >> I think Candace Owens is um completely. lost any credibility when she's saying. that certain dreams. are are where she's getting her. information from. Okay. Yeah, there are. dreams in the Bible, but there's always. supernatural confirmation for those. dreams. There's been no supernatural. confirmation. for for Candace Owens's dreams. You can. come up with any possibility you want. Possibilities are not evidence, ladies.

and gentlemen. We're supposed to follow. evidence. And notice I'll say this again. for in fact I just had a pastor I was. just talking to a pastor friend of mine. He's like what do I say when you know. people are running down Erica Kirk and I. say the same thing that I say. Have you. noticed that Jesus and the apostles say. that Satan is a murderer, a slanderer, an accuser, a liar, and somebody that. brings confusion? Have you noticed that. we've had a murder and then since then.

we've had slander, accusations, lies, and confusion? That's what spiritual. warfare is, ladies and gentlemen. And. for people who are slandering. Erica and others, including me, and. making accusations and lies and stirring. up confusion without evidence, this is. what Satan does. >> Okay, just a follow-up question, Doc. like what do we mean that I'm allowed to. have a dream? He's like yeah know that. that's happens all the time in the Bible.

when he like remembers that he has to be. Christian and then he's like but there's. supernatural confirmation. What do I. have? What's the supernatural. confirmation that we're looking for? Do. what I what do you want me to say? Had a. dream which happened and then what am I. supposed to say? Like Charlie appeared. in my house. Like I don't know what he's. talking about. That doesn't even make. sense. That's why I just pivots and then. starts going Satan's a murderer. Yeah, we're kind of trying to figure out who. uh murdered Charlie Kirk. Welcome to the. show, Dr. Frank Turk. We're wear murder.

When you see that act of murder and you. see it in broad daylight, there's. probably like a synagogue of Satan. hiding behind it. And you guys just. don't seem interested at all in going on. this journey to figure out who killed. Charlie Kirk, which is giving us a. little bit of intuition that something's. a miss. Again, going back to the example. of Kobe Bryant's wife, Sue Ever. She. didn't trust nobody. Everybody was. getting sued. Okay. And I didn't even. agree with some of her lawsuits. But. darn if I didn't agree with the emotion.

of like a woman who feels like there. needs to be justice served somehow for. my loss. What would we have said if I don't know. it would have been kind of weird if she. as soon as the helicopter I you know I. just I forgive them. I forgive all. everybody involved. It's like we're. Yeah, you got to get to forgiveness. You do have to get to forgiveness. And. I'm sure that she's there now, but. immediately after you just you're. skipping all the other phases of grief. You instantly accepted what happened.

within 5 days, maybe even sooner that. Charlie was gone. I I I don't know. I. again, I welcome this discussion with. you, but yeah, Stton is a liar. We're. tracking the Turning Point USA lies. You. are basically confirming for us that. everything that we're looking at is. satanic. kind of what we've been saying, right? I've been saying this is no. longer about left versus right. This is. good versus evil. And you're upset with. us for pointing out the lies at the same.

time that you're calling people Satan. What am I accusing you of lying? Where. is the evidence? No one in the history. of the world has presented more evidence. than Candace Owens. I got there's just. so much evidence. And then you get. caught up with lies. They debunk them. I. show techies. I I show timelines and. they're just like they concede the. points and then it's just over. They're. like back to like all she's doing is. dreaming. All she's doing is dream. She. hasn't showed us any proof whatsoever. What are we doing? Why do I feel like. we're on a hamster wheel with these.

people? How much more evidence? I have. presented so much more evidence than the. FBI ever did against Tyler Robinson that. they're the accusers. How about they. convicted him when Erica said on stage, "I forgive you. You're forgiving him.". Which implies that he's guilty. So, who is the accuser? Who is the liar? Uh, who is the person. that you are saying is evil in all of. this? The person trying to find out who. killed Charlie Kirk who's willing to sit.

down publicly with all of you. All of. you at the same time if you'd like for. as long as you'd like. Or is the people that are engaged in a. cover up, lying to the public and. gaslighting the public because they have. a lot of money. People that are firing. employees without cause. through some loyalty tests because. they're talking to Uber drivers. You guys are behaving like you're guilty. and like you can spend it away to hide.

that. So, if you are a if you have good. intentions and you are a well-meaning. person, um if you are a well-meaning. pastor, I don't know what it takes now. to be a pastor. It seems like all you. have to do is have some feelings and. like a few proverbs, but if if you are. well intended, I don't see why you. wouldn't take me up on the invite to. come on the show. I extend it to you. Again, I've done it multiple times, but. I extend it to you and any of your. homies at TPUSA. to come on the show. You should be able. to embarrass me. It's very easy, by the. way, to sit down with a liar. That's. like fun when someone's lying through.

their teeth. The truth doesn't fear. sitting down with a lie. So, let me know. if you'd like to do it. Anyway, guys, I. do want to also touch briefly before I. get to some of your comments on this Don. Lemon arrest. Like, objectively, no, I. should say subjectively, it's funny. Of. course, it's funny. I mean, Don Lemon, the idea of Don Lemon being in prison is. funny. Uh, but objectively, him being. put in prison because Pam Bondi wanted a. headline. Pam Bondi, can we get the. Epstein files? Yes or no? like c can you. actually arrest some of these people in.

society that are harming children? I. feel like right now um the DOJ has. become like that show Reno 911. Is that. what it is? It's called Reno 911. I. think it's called Reno 911. It just it. all just feels really fake and. ridiculous. People are dressed up and. they're like knocking down doors. We got. Christy Gnome knocking down doors and. she's got long extensions and makeup and. like we're back and Pam Bondi's like and. we're here to arrest the people that. criticize Zionism on college campuses.

and now we're like going after Don Lemon. because in case you missed the backstory. of this, Don Lemon is annoying. He's. been annoying his entire life. And. should you go to prison for being. annoying your entire life? Maybe in a in. a sane world when I when I'm the. dictator of the United States. Yeah, maybe. We don't live in that world right. now. Okay. We live in a world uh where. journalists are allowed to be annoying. and they were basically upset because. what what's happening in Minnesota is a. bunch of protesters figured out that. there is a pastor that works with ICE,

right? And so they've gone in to protest. his church and Don Lemon sort of went. around and started asking a bunch of. questions. But Don Lemon in general. doesn't love church and doesn't love. Christians. Um as we figured this out. when he was speaking to me of like what. do you think about homosexual marriage? you know, he's got he's got some chips. on his shoulder about it in general. So, he's there generally to be annoying. There's no excuse for Dun Lemon, but the. arrest of him after, and we can show you. a clip of him here at this protest is. it's pure theater. It's it is pure FBI,

DOJ, look over here theater because we. have actually been inefficient the. entire time that we've been in office. We we are actually doing nothing but. trying to grab headlines rather than to. actually solve crimes that are being. committed. mostly by us. Okay. Um, this. is the clip of of Don Lemon just being. Don Lemon at this church and being. annoying. Generally speaking, >> we're here to worship. We're here to. worship Jesus because that's the hope of. these cities. That's the hope of the. world is Jesus Christ.

>> I want to be very respectful. Please. don't push me, though. >> We're we're here. We're here to worship. Jesus. That's why we're here. Okay. That's why we're here. That's what we're. about. >> Would you think Jesus would be. understanding and. >> we're we're about love these folks? We're about spreading the love of Jesus. in you. >> But did you try to talk to them as a as. a Christian? >> No one is willing to talk. >> Okay. >> I I have to take care of my church and. my family. So I ask that you actually. would also leave this building. >> You don't want us to worship. Unless. you're here to worship. >> I'm always worship. I'm a Christian. >> We're here to Well, we're here to. worship. We're here to worship. Okay. >> Thank you very much. I appreciate.

>> So that's one of the pastors of the. church. Um and it's kind of loud so I. can't hear him, but they're still there. >> Yeah. This is annoying. Like Don Lemon. obviously his head belongs in a toilet. He deserves a swirly and if you elect me. dictator I will do it. I promise to do. that. But in the meantime Pam Bondi. trying to grab headlines who's equally. as annoying and who also kind of needs a. swirly if we're being honest. They both. kind of need a swirly. Oh we're not. going to do we're doing this for. Christianity. Shut up Pam Bondi. Just.

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Lots of love. God bless you. I we have. definitely at the very least been lied. to about all the terrorism. Obviously, um now we know the CIA and the MSAD. trains, all of these radicals. Um if you. really get into the story of Osama bin. Laden and all of these people that were. CIA agents, then suddenly we're against. uh America and the West. It happens over. and over again too many times for us to. remain foolish about that fact. I mean, who do you guys think funded Hamas? Ib Netanyahu did. Obviously, they fund.

terror and then they take advantage of. terrorist attacks that they funded. I. think that's pretty obvious and that. Basam Ysef did a good job describing. that. Julia writes, "Petraying devotion. to Christ, but telling consistent lies. gives me holier than thou vibes.". Charlie said, "Lying is like suicide to. the soul." Love you, Candace. Thank you. for the truth. I totally agree, but it. is so much worse. Um, like I said, and. I've been saying this a lot, I rather. people who honestly hate me making. videos, speaking about me, doing.

whatever, but when you pretend that. you're doing this as a pastor or uh. somebody who's a godly woman, and you. use uh biblical verses to uh try to. persuade people uh to go after people. that you perceive to be enemies, typically for purely political reasons. or purely financial reasons. someone's. paying you to do that. Special place in. hell reserved for you. Truly, I I I I. feel that way. It's just God will not be. mocked. That's all I'm going to say. DJ.

MCO, was this actually like 50 Cent. here? This person's hi Candace Yay. tweeted out a photo icon. This is g they. gave a really big uh tip here of St. Moses the Black several years ago and. the momentum that Yay created by this. post finally culminated in a film being. released this Friday. Please give this. redemption themed film a quick shout. out. I have no idea what this film is. My producer is putting a note here. saying it's a modern retelling of St. Moses the Black. That's based in. Chicago. 50 Cent is the executive. producer and Whiz Khalifa is in it. Me.

and 50 Cent should sit down in general. because I see the memes of 50 Cent and. Canones. I see them. They're good. They're fun. And so 50 Cent, if you are. watching, let's make this happen. We we. should just do this for the world and. just go at each other. I think that's. what needs to happen. Uh Titus writes, "Now we are over the target. God bless. you, Kenneth, and thank you for your. bravery. Uh, John Heinchel writes, "JFK. was a Catholic and Charlie was at a. minimum Catholic. Curious by, by the. way, just to pause before I finish your. what you wrote here." That annoys me so.

much too about the amount of smoke that. I had to deal with. He wasn't a. Catholic, not the funded campaigns. And. then low key and then you're telling the. person you're singing with who's giving. you the relics of how much Charlie just. like to love be to be in here and prayer. and all of this stuff. It's just so. there's so many lies. There are so many. lies. Anyways, to continue reading, uh, this person uh continues with, "Boy, these Zionists really don't like. Catholics. Also, grieving widows don't. have to lie regardless of how they are.

behaving. Mrs. Kirk is not just behaving. inappropriately. She's behaving. suspiciously." I agree that it is always. suspicious to tell a lie. That is what. makes people go, "Hm, that's not right. That's what made me go, hm." for me when. I saw her and Andrew Kovat colluding. after she told me they were getting rid. of Andrew Kovette and replacing him and. then I realized he's the one organizing. the Paramount Tactical and Andrew and. also the Alex Jones which I've now. confirmed with uh people that they fired. for no reason that it was Andrew. It was. Andrew Kovat the whole time. So why did.

Eric lie to me? Why are we lying to. Candace? Why are you lying to Candace? Anyway, Stephanie writes, "I received my. TPUSA hat today, lol. Most likely only. because of the leaked call and the. attention brought to the contract. wording, if you will, regarding. supplying the hats versus a plastic. bracelet that said, "We are Charlie. Kirk." Your credibility is at 100. Thank. you. Yeah, I got a lot of emails that. never even received the hat and now they. are suddenly receiving them. So, that's. good. Aean Colin writes, "There is a.

reason for everything. We now see why. Trump 45 and 47 got in. Without 45, 47, Charlie and you would not have been able. to expose the truth. Watching this shows. where we are in our Lord's plan. Peace. is on the way. Christ is king. Keep. going. Um, do Max. And I I agree. I I. shared that sentiment with the with this. woman that I was speaking to. I was. like, you know what's crazy? I do think. it all happened for a reason. It's the. same way that I say like I'm so grateful. that I worked for PragerU and Turning. Point USA and um Daily Wire because even.

though I was blinded in many ways the. time to what now feels like oh I was. just in the belly of the beast as Basf. was saying yesterday I had to kind of be. in there uh to see how it works and I. think similarly she had to be there at. that time because it moved her to then. email me when she saw this strange lie. coming from Andrew Coven about the. Catholic faith and by the way Another. thing that I found out, oh, I have so many things I'm mad about. that I'm now learning from the people.

that were wrongly fired at Turning Point. USA. So, the whole thing that Erica told. me in my face about that was it was. crazy at that time. And Andrew Kovette. again went rogue in that interview with. Alex Clark. Uh-uh. Not true. Try again. Another lie that she told me because the. reality is is he was texting her. throughout that interview. you know, it's like badly cut. And he was in. communication with her during that. interview, according to the person that. worked in Andrew Kovett's office that no. longer does. So, I got to go back and.

just now track how many lies I was told. because I'm now I'm getting the. information from the people that were on. the inside inside. Anyways, Mama Essa. writes, "I love Nimi. My faves are the. buzzing bee balm and the four lips and. the elbows body wash and butter. It. smells divine. Tallows and serums. Um, I. love your sass and your sarcasm and. humor, too. Thanks for cracking me up. while being uh great uh and full of. poise and grace and kindness, dignity, strength and beauty from Contessa. Thank. you, Mama Essa Contessa. And yeah, I.

actually do love the the the tallow. The. tallow cream is really nice. Totally. awesome writes, Candace, will you please. tell us more about Charlie Kirk's. children, parents, and Eric Kirk's. father and halfsister? Also, people. think I'm nuts for listening to you, but. we don't. No, no, but we know. Um what I. would say I children are off limits. always. children are innocent and they. should be protected and and every chance. that I get I just that seems for me to. just not be a topic that I want to cover. these those are Charlie's children but. speaking about Erica's background we're.

going to do I told you that we have a a. week break coming up not next week the. week after and during that week we'll. we'll get things together and have two. episodes just kind of a profile focus. separating fact from fiction Monzo. writes I watched the Rabbi Barklay. interview after you mentioned it. yesterday just wow My skin was crawling, but I could not stop watching him bury. himself in his own psycho babble. Thank. you for all that you do, Candace Crisis. King. Honestly, it it's a journey. You're just like, "Oh, you're just a. Jewish supremacist." It's like, he's.

like, "No, we better than you. Oh, don't. you understand? You must worship us at. all times. That's what you're getting. wrong. The only that matters is us. We. are the people we love the most and you. must worship us." And I was just like. trying to take notes and really. understand things. And that probably was. part of the beginning of the end of my. support for Zionism because I now. believe that it is a objectively racist. philosophy. I don't see how anybody could argue. that. And most don't. They just whine on.

the internet, but they don't want to. actually sit down and have a debate. about those things. Uh lastly, oh nope. I think I got everything here. Yeah, I. got everything. We are good. All right, you guys. We will see you on Monday.