Amber Rose x Candace Owens | Candace Ep 33

Amber Rose I am so excited to have you. here thanks for joining thank you thanks. for having me so many things that I want. to say I'm going to try to shut up but. the first thing that I want to say is I. was so empathetic watching you at the. RNC because first and formost your. speech was amazing and I think everybody. agreed that your speech was amazing but. I knew it was going to follow. immediately after which was sort of this. purity test because I had lived it. before so I was in your shoes I guess. now it's been like eight nine years ago. and just realized that everything I was.

being told was a lie like I and it was. specifically started on the BLM stuff. like on the Black America stuff and. that's all I said and then my remarks. went viral I was being invited to all. these places and I wasn't ready to then. have my feet held to the fire about. every single position what is she what. has she ever said about pro-life what. has she ever said about this what like. is she actually a conservative I'm like. guys I'm just saying what I believe in. my heart to be true and now you're. trying to put me through a test right.

and that's exactly what happened to you. thereafter yeah so I guess the first. question I just want to ask you is how. are you doing today I'm wonderful you're. good yeah this isn't the first time I've. been cancelled or viral or trending on. Twitter you know I've been down this. road several times throughout the years. so it's kind of just like I I mean I. slept like a baby this whole week so I'm. so glad to hear that so how are you. feeling I guess leading up to the speech.

cuz that's the that's a huge honor to be. speaking in front of the former. president and likely future president of. the United States how are you feeling. leading up to the speech and immediately. following it. so I um I wrote my speech with one of. the writers that works for Trump right I. told them everything that I wanted to. talk about I didn't want to talk about. the Border I didn't want to talk about. all that stuff I wanted to just keep it. like you know I'm a mom I want to talk. about the economy inflation things like.

that my story how I came over to this. side and um they wrote something up and. then I kind of put it into my own words. and that's what everyone saw at the RNC. but I I will say Candace I did not think. anyone would care I'll be honest with. you I just you know I was just like. there's so many speakers going up no one. knows me in the political world you know. I'm going to go there and honestly the.

whole day before I spoke maybe there was. like some young girls that were like my. fans and stuff that wanted pictures but. other than that no one you know really. knew who I was. there and right after that speech boy I. I've must have taken like 3,000 pictures. in 4 days wow I promise you it was like. from the morning into the night. downstairs in the hotel outside at the. RNC walking to the RNC cuz you know had.

everything blocked off and stuff um it. definitely changed my life but I don't. know for sometimes for me I'm like I'm. just a girl from Philly why does anyone. care you know and then I go online and. everyone's like she's irrelevant no one. cares about what she has to say no one. gives a you know and then I'm like okay. no one gives a let me just go on. stage and just say how I feel and then. people give a sh and I'm like but I. thought they weren't going to give a sh. yeah so that's what I battle with every. time I do something like that well I.

knew it was going to be huge for a. couple of reasons the first and I saw. this happening as soon as you put on the. magah hat and there was a clip of you. TMZ was basically chasing you trying to. pigeon hole you of like wait you're you. belong to us like you're you're on the. left you're the girl from the slutwalk. and I know how proprietary Hollywood. gets about if you're in Hollywood if. we've ever promoted you if we ever put. you on a magazine cover you get in line.

with these beliefs like you these are. your political beliefs and you can't. change so I knew hit in the RNC stage. which is such a pendulum swing they were. not going to have that and then I knew. that conservatives I just don't think. that they have thought through the. differences not all conservatives I. thought the differences between what it. means to be a conservative what it means. to be a Republican and what it means to. be a Christian and they were holding you. to a test of is she a republican. Conservative Christian and then we. reality is tons of people can and do.

vote Republican who are not Christians. who are not even necessarily fully. conservatives they're like gay married. men and they vote because they. prioritize the economy over their gay. identity also don't think Donald Trump. is very conservative. interesting in what ways um he's. pro-choice I don't think that's very. conservative it's definitely not. Christian so people can say you're. fiscally conservative and this kind of. gets it like there needs to be a.

thorough conversation about what it. means to be a Republican versus a. conservative versus a Christian and we. haven't had that and I knew that your. feet were going to be held to the fire. was there any comments that before we. get into like your background and how. you ended up there that impacted you or. that you felt upset about that came at. you or were you just like I'm. good well I'll be honest with you the. Matt wall stuff it didn't really bother. me but it did it did um.

you know people of religious people like. that is why I went on my atheist. journey and so I I was a I was a. Christian my whole life I used to go to. my mom still goes to church seven days a. week you know I used to go to church. with my mom all the time but I used I I. used to run into people like him often. and so for me it made me just get turned. off by the church and then in turn kind. of go on a spiritual journey I was. looking into Buddhism I was looking. looking into Islam which was extremely.

far-fetched for me um and then I landed. on atheism because I just I just never. felt comfortable on that side but I I. will say besides that. um when I when I showed up at the RNC it. was there was a lot of white men in. suits and so I can understand why maybe. a person of color somebody that comes. from the left would be intimidated by. that because that's maybe not.

necessarily the norm that we were used. to being around but after I did that. speech Candis I I spoke to so many. people they were coming up to me telling. me their stories right and these are. these are guys that look like they come. from generational wealth MH and they're. like oh no I I came from nothing you. know I I just worked my way up and I. figured it out or uh one of the other. guys was like my dad's in prison for.

murder I mean you would think this guy. was like had a billionaire Daddy he was. like no my dad's in prison for murder um. my sister died of fentanyl poisoning you. know my brother died in the opioid. crisis and so it just you know I I still. had that remnants left of the of the. left in my head where I I have to admit. when I walked in there I'm like oh my. God they're going to hate me or they're. just they're from a different world and. when I started talking to them I'm like.

we're actually all going through the. same thing in America right now and you. can't just judge a book by its cover cuz. I don't want people to judge me I'm. actually a sweetheart I'm I I'm not a a. crazy person or anything like that but. yeah it was um it was it was really sad. a lot of people were going through a lot. and um and thank you you know for. telling your stories everyone at the RNC. like you know um and sorry for your loss. cuz people lost a lot of people um. to fet and mostly so and it's.

interesting that you say that because. one of the things I always say to my. cousin she she does my hair and we talk. about this a lot I'm like if only people. in the hood knew that the redneck them. are the exact same people they're the. exact same people and yet the media will. have you thinking like oh the Rednecks. hate black people like it is actually as. soon as you get around them I'm like. they're exactly the same people flipped. and some of the best people I've ever. met actually I will say the best people. I ever met are just from down here in. the South because they have the right. values like you know family and faith.

and faith is a big component of it and I. know what you mean when you say that you. feel and I it makes me sad to hear that. cuz I've heard it many times that. Christians can be really judgmental or. if you felt that because the reality is. that there were so many other Christians. who were not saying that and I messaged. Matt immediately because I actually know. Matt Walsh very well I've worked with. him for years he's actually an amazing. person and I just felt that you know I. was actually following him on Instagram. were you and I unfollowed him after I. saw that tweet oh my see I I didn't know.

much about him but I saw other people. following him so I was just trying to. find a community of people and I I just. I unfollowed him I'm like oh I guess he. doesn't like me so that and that is so. honestly the Tweet was Ill. representative of Who Matt Walsh is and. his wife is amazing he I think what he. was trying to say didn't come across the. right way cuz I immediately texted him. and I was just like wait Matt I think. that like you have you have this wrong. and I think what he was trying to say. and I hope I don't I don't sound like. I'm an apologist from at Walsh obviously.

like and I might be being a little. catholic gang gang here but I think what. he was trying to say was something about. the RNC and like what they're. prioritizing but I actually even. disagree with that point too because I. think that again speaking to like what. the RNC should be trying to do ahead of. an election is basically saying are we. these are the things that we are. offering like a better economy this that. and but these are the lies that are told. about the RNC like people believe that. Donald Trump is this and I think a part. of that is kind of trying to disillusion.

people and so I wish you you guys and I. hope you will in the opportunity have a. moment to speak because I promise you. like it's not who he is he's like a. really good dude and I know I'm good. though yeah I know I know I feel it I. know I get it but I'm glad that so many. other people like responded yeah I had a. lot of DMS of you know people saying. that they're you know they're going to. pray for me that like nice Christians I. promise he's a nice Christian I promise. he is that I just it came out I think it. came out the wrong way but yeah Matt. does so much charity for Christians and.

he's fought on a lot of causes and again. I don't want to sound like a Matt. apologist but I get it I totally get how. you feel about the it's more so like. when he's like you know um the walk. fine the rappers part I you know what's. so funny K is I I've only been in. relationships my whole career and I've. been pigeon. like do you know in Hollywood if you. were at the same restaurant as someone. they will put it on the news that you're.

together you're not at the same table. you don't know them they're with their. family you're with your family and. they'll say we're at the the the hotel. or the restaurant at the same exact time. this is what they have done to me. throughout the years okay so I get it I. understand this why I'm doing this. interview I understand why he's like she. just rappers or she just does this and. even my. slutwalk I was really really proud of it.

I hate what it turned into I hated the. name slutwalk I hate it when girls you. know which sounds very hypocritical had. to leave the slutwalk dressed like that. which was the whole point like don't. touch me because I'm dressed like this. you know still respect me cuz I'm. dressed like a but then when they. would leave I'd be like this is my. responsibility I brought them here but. now I don't want them to go get hurt but. would that was the whole damn point of. the walk where I'm not making a. change change there's nothing I'm not.

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with Tristan Tate and Andrew Tate and. they're very big and I just get it I. think one of the things that happens a. lot and I I always talk about ali Stucky. who's this pod Christian podcaster she's. amazing she's lovely she's basically. like what you want your daughter to be. like everything turned out right she. came from a stable family two Christian. parents she like loves the Lord and then. you have someone like Andrew Tate and. her and him maybe have said things about. each other what I always say to people.

with the way that my life was how my. life started I would have never listened. to Ali suaki like I would have never in. a million years listened to an Ali sucki. podcast before I listened to an Andrew. tap podcast you get what I mean because. it wasn't which is I'm saying this quite. ironically it wasn't relatable that's. the name of her podcast it wasn't. relatable because I'm like okay you're a. girl I hope one day that I could raise. kids like that but I'm going to listen. to someone who I just feel understand. things like that I've lived through you.

know what I mean and it's not easy to be. guided down the right path or to end up. at Faith immediately and that I think. that's why an entire generation of kids. who didn't grow up with two parents in. the home would rather listen to an. Andrew Tate and the conservative woman. does not always understand that and I. think that that's not a good thing and. that's why I loved when I heard you just. say what you believe because I'm like if. that I I cuz I believed that you. believed it right and I'm like great now. we invite her in and talk to her about. where she's been and what made her wake.

up so starting with the slutwalk because. I was frantically against the slutwalk. talked about it many times in my old. show I'm going to just I know I remember. oh I was like I was anti slutwalk. because I felt that women were being. used to actually make things harder for. women so I'm going to show you just like. a cut here for the audience for a clip. of just some slutwalk footage you're not. in any of this footage but I just so. people know what it is okay. I'm a porn star my name is Lily Cade I'm.

here today because just because I am a. doesn't mean you can rap me I am. who I am if you don't like it do the. word should be reclaimed because. sex is just something that's fun and. something that's natural that we do. we're here to support women's rights and. to choose what they want to do and. they're not asking for it just cuz. they're dressing like this or however. they choose to dress every time someone. tried to call me a slot when I was. younger I was like no no no no I'm not. I'm not a I'm not a I'm not. all that finally my 18th birthday comes. around so I'm like I can do what I want. now I don't know how to say I'm not a.

dick or bad don't care so when you see. that and I will granted look and if it's. funnyish it is funny um how does it make. you. feel um a part of it I am not proud of. another part of it I I I agree with and. the part that I do agree with is that. there are a lot of girls in high school. or college right young girls that are. literally called derogatory names for no.

reason at all they're not even doing. anything I was one of those girls I was. a lay Bloomer my my kids are 11 and four. I have friends that have like 25 year. olds so you know I I do think that. sometimes that is an issue where you. bully girls because you're insecure or. maybe she might like another boy or. something like that so that was one. piece in there if I'm not mistaken where. the girl said that but then she said. dick or badge or whatever who cares or. something like that um that's the only.

thing I still do agree with but um the. other stuff I just and you know what. Candace too listen when it comes to sex. workers I'm still for sex workers and. when I say that I mean that I understand. it's not easy to just say stop don't do. this anymore you're better than this. right we can all say that at all day but. there has to be a solution for why they. should stop you you know or um maybe the.

money that they did make through sex. work or the umbrella of sex work like. stripping and stuff was not actually sex. um and create businesses for themselves. or something like that you know so I I. have empathy for women like that because. I was I was that girl I never my dreams. and aspirations in life were not to be a. dancer um but I grew up poor and my mom. had mental health issues and you know we.

were homeless when I was really young. and my neighborhood was drug dealers and. strippers you know. so um that was my lifelong dream and. then when I became. famous everyone just pointed the finger. at me and was like you used to be a. stripper we we remember you you know and. um and then that made like the whole. internet and stuff and then I had to. just live with that and over. time I uh embraced it with my walk.

because it was the only way to survive I. was like in survival mode because. initially I'm like hey guys I grew up. poor and my and they're like shut up you. were a stripper shut up you know so I'm. like okay well no one cares why so what. else is there left for me to do I have. to just own it which I think is what CI. B does often she she has to own it and. act like she we are have to act like we. love it see that's so this is very.

interesting so for those who were not. introduced to Amber Rose before the RNC. Amber Rose is introduced to the world. because you were dating Kanye West and. it years ago 15 years ago and it became. this big thing Kanye West is is dating a. stripper and suddenly you became famous. like basically overnight yeah um and I. well he didn't know that I was a. stripper at all oh when he met me I. didn't know this so the misconception is. that he met me at the strip club I. thought that my whole life until right. now ever met me at the strip club I was.

actually a model I was signed with Ford. models I got booked for a music video. called Robocop on 808 and heartbreak. okay although that album is not about me. the the My Beautiful Dark Twisted. Fantasy is about me um that's also. another misconception that's about his. ex- fiance so I got booked for a job and. then we fell in love and we were. together for like two years um and um it. was a good time and it was a great time. in pop culture and we really did have a.

lot of fun for a long time but um yes he. did not meet me in the strip club so. when me and him started to get to know. each other I was like hey I you know I. just want to be honest because I could. tell that we have feelings for each. other I am actually a dancer back in the. Bronx I Liv in the Bronx at the time. funny me and cardi worked at the same. spot just different times cuz I'm older. than her oh and. um and uh he was like I don't care I. just want to be with you I don't even. care that you work dancer that doesn't. even bother me you know and um he was.

really great about it he just really. didn't care cuz I felt like he just knew. my heart he he knew who I was as a. person um so yeah so go ahead but that's. that's how I'm so glad you clarified. that and so you which is really funny. because you got branded as a stripper. when he met you you weren't even. stripping but they I guess I was. stripping but he didn't know that I was. a stripper he didn't know you were a. stripper so I was a model but I wasn't a. Bella Hadid I wasn't a famous model I. just happened to be signed to a big. agency. but I wasn't getting a lot of work like.

that so I still had to dance and money. back to my mom in Philly you know my. family so so that's why I was still. dancing in the Bronx but he didn't meet. me there he met me cuz I booked uh his. music video got it okay so this is. literally a case of just I guess. misconceptions in the media no just. people pulling stories out of their ass. and throwing it on the internet and then. everyone believes it I think people can. be. really I don't know I guess unforgiving. of circumstances can never imagine. themselves to be in so you kind of hear.

this when they find out like in. someone's history like this person sold. drugs or you know this person was a. stripper or did anything that was to. them obviously we look at these things. and we're like this is not a good career. to go into but they don't understand. what it means when your back is against. the wall and what you would do and it's. unfortunate that the sex industry is. fast money for people that need it who. don't come from these circumstances it's. very unfortunate and I'm glad you. actually brought up cardi B because so. much in the media has made it seem like. I am an enemy of cardi B and I feel like.

I'm actually the only person that ever. believed in cardi B and uh who truly. believed in her meaning that she could. break out of this stripper stereotype so. I was introduced to her because my. cousin like made me watch Love & Hip Hop. and she was a star there's no question. about it I had never watched love and. hip hop in my life her and rayj I just. thought they were both like very. entertaining in this way and what was so. enjoyable about her was she was very. self deprecating she was just like I. want to work hard and I'm going to make.

it and I believe in myself but she would. kind of you know point to the things. that weren't right about herself in the. same way and that it was very endearing. and then she kind of makes it when. everyone's telling her she's not going. to and she makes some music and I can't. remember what her was it bodak yellow. that went viral for the first time and. suddenly she's in Hollywood and she's. got tons of followers because people. liked her personality but then I felt. like okay now she's going to move on. from the stripper stereotype she doesn't. have to be that anymore like her her. music is boppy that people love her not.

because she's a stripper and actually. what I felt the industry did was they. tried to turn her into like the ultimate. stripper they were like no you're you're. still you have to be the stripper no. babe it's not her fault they they don't. let you they don't let you move forward. I think this is why like I'm 40 now and. this is why I don't give a anymore like. I don't care I'm going to speak at the. RNC I'm going to speak at my um on my. Instagram I'm going to say how I feel. about things and um I'm not going to. hold back any more because the industry.

does do that to women especially women. that come from nothing like somebody. like me and cardi b um they intimidate. you with the fact that you'll eventually. be back there with nothing and that's. how it's been for the 15 years that I've. been famous and so it's like you have to. do this you have to twerk on Instagram. you have to go viral you know um if the. more followers you get the more. endorsement deals you get which in turn. gives you more money to support your. family who specifically is is with is.

giving you that directive there it's. everyone it's everyone out there because. it became a a a culture so now and again. I don't know cardi personally but I'm. just looking from the outside in because. I I lived it. already I think that her team is. probably saying look at this other. female rapper look what she's doing oh. she just went viral doing that so now. you got to do something you know raise. the bar and do something else and so it. becomes an intimidation tactic where you.

feel anxiety that like it may be over. for you in a. second and so even when me and Kanye. broke up I'll never forget it I mean. obviously so many years ago but they. were like your 15 minutes is up it's. over for you it's done you're never. going to work in Hollywood again this is. like the internet and just people. um I couldn't get a I couldn't get a. publicist I could nobody wanted to work.

with me um and I was like maybe they're. right but I just persevered and I. managed myself for a few years and I. just I did it by myself and that first. year uh I made my first million dollars. in. 2011 um by myself you know and. so but even then it's like you go this. way a little bit and you're happy and. you're just like finally getting out of. out of this and then it's like.

hey do you want I don't know a million. dollars to sign up to only fans there's. a pandemic everyone might die you know. you're you you can't really work and. travel anywhere unless you want to get a. vaccine. so is this what you want you're like and. you're just thinking in your head like. this money could be gone like what am I. going to do after this this could be the. last check that I get yeah so it's. everywhere the degeneracy is everywhere. so you're surrounded by that and I was. telling you on the phone how like um I. posted that bikini pick like three weeks.

ago I since like archived it on my page. but I dropped a coin a crypto coin. called MAA which is great everyone go. get the MAA coin but um I still fell. into it Candace because I I'm I was. telling my team like guys they're like. well Iggy aelia's coin was doing really. good and she has her hands on her ass. and she's like spreading her ass cheeks. and like you got to at least do a bikini. picture with maybe like the make America. great hat. and you want to make money you want your.

coin to go up like you know and so I'm. like fine let me go in the backyard by. the pool and just do it so I still. battle with those things Candace I and I. I don't want to get beat up by the. Republicans I'm already getting beat up. enough by the left you're basically. you're in political Purgatory it's the. worst because when you leave you're like. I've escaped then when you arrive you're. like whoa whoa I don't know I know I'm. not perfect I'm getting everything wrong. and you're being screamed up by the. right and it's it's sucks it is it's it.

really sucks because I can just sense. I'm a person that goes on Vibes my team. is laughing cuz I literally like I just. going to Vibe and and but my vibes. wasn't right and when I spoke to you I. was like no she means what she says and. she's going through this metamorphosis. and it's painful like it is really. painful to come out of that cocoon. especially I would imagine it's 10 times. worse for you cuz your cocoon is. Hollywood and there's no room there's no. I mean mine was hard enough just being. black and being like hey I am like a. conservative oh I'm no longer black no. they will take that away I'm I've black. my whole life but they they were.

instantly like she's not black yeah I'm. not black anymore apparently so so. they're they they take that away and. they denigrate you but it's got to be. even harder to come out of the Hollywood. cocoon because the entire industry is. built around really everyone has to have. the same perspective everyone has to be. the same if you want to sign the deals I. mean I sat down with a Tik tocker super. young gen Z Tik tocker and he spoke. about how he was basically told like he. wanted to do more serious and talk about. real issues stay out of it you know keep. doing fun stupid Tik toks because if you. start talking and you sound conservative.

you're not going to get the sponsorships. you're not going to get the deals it's. intimidation right 100% which is crazy. and what's crazy is that it wakes me up. at night Candace because I have tortured. myself for 15 years I've tortured myself. with this stuff you know and I've begged. and I've cried and plead it please reach. for the stars even if go talk to like. maybe more conservative Brands see if.

they'll give me a chance they wouldn't. give me a chance you know cuz they just. didn't know me and I get it I'm not. upset but um they're like no this is it. this is this is this is what and you. know I have a family and so when I went. out on a Ledge and I posted the picture. with me Trump and. Melania that was my moment where I was. like I'm done like I'm done how did it. come about like in your mind. how when did you decide I'm just going.

to post this photo magga goodbye I'm. with Donald Trump and Melania because. that obviously became a moment on the. internet yeah so um my ex-husband. actually told me to do it whiz whiz did. he told me to do it yeah although he's. not political at all and he's not voting. he's just not in doesn't want to be in. that world. whatsoever I you know he's really one of. my best friends I love him so much still. to this day he's just such a great. person but I went to him and I was just.

like I feel like I'm living a lie and I. feel like and it's so much more than. Trump but just me as a person I was just. like I'm so unhappy you know I I'm. starting to hate everyone and I was. never like that I was always full of. love you know and um I just want to be. me and I don't know how to be me I don't. know I I don't give a but I don't know. how to just like bungee jump like once I. bungee jump I'm good like once I do it.

or like jump out the airplane I'm done. you know and and I can forever do. that and I told him that I wanted to. post a picture he's. like Amber post. that he was like post that right now you. know I'm like for real I should you know. and he's like he's like do it he's like. who cares he's like you voting for Trump. is that what you want to do and I was. like yeah I'm kind of really into it you. know and and he's like man do that and.

he put a battery in my back and I was. like all right I'm going to do it and. out of 50,000 comments I didn't leave. one comment under my own page I just let. everybody just argue with each other. like just go crazy on each other cuz I'm. I said what I said it is so freeing I. just remember when I had that moment and. it's funny because the world Works. mysterious ways but I was listening to. Kanye West's song over and over again. one when he came out with um gosh I.

can't even think of the name of the song. he did it 300 style where he talks about. it's going to be a beautiful death I'm. jumping out the window I can't think of. the name of the song um it's one of his. newer songs no power yes uh oh power. yeah I was listening to power on repeat. because I knew cuz that was kind of when. Kanye got cancelled and then he came. back and he talked about like really the. power that has to come from within and. that end like it's going to be a. beautiful death I'm jumping out the. window that idea came to him from the. movie 300 one of the people that was.

involved in that told me that and it was. all about I mean that whole song He's. like fsnl in the whole cast like he's. basically saying like goodbye to. Hollywood I'm going to be myself and I. listened to it over and over I knew I. was just going to be bullied every day. people were going to call me Uncle Tom. Aon but I had listened to so much of. Kanye's power that I just did not care I. was like blacking out on Kanye's music. and you do you have to it has to be that. battery pack you have to have either the. voice within yourself behind you to be. like listen you know what's worse it is.

so much worse to live a life and not be. yourself like that is a kind of a death. you know it is I mean I was literally. like suicidal two years ago and that and. I spoke about that on Jason Lee's. podcast um I just could not take it. anymore just living in a lie and if you. look at my my record I don't really I. don't argue with people online like I. have like two arguments online out of 15.

years of people just going in on me you. know and so um it does take a toll after. a while because you just want to scream. from the rooftops like guys you don't. know me at all you don't know where I. come from but a part of me and I don't. know what that is inside of me that it's. just like you I don't you don't like me. I don't even want to explain to you why. like I don't don't even want to tell you. like no like me because this is why this.

is like this you know what I'm saying I. rather just be like well just unfollow. me then or talk I don't I don't even. care because people that actually know. me love me and I'm okay with that right. and that's where it has to come from and. and that's why I I love that he says. it's going to be a beautiful death cuz. it it's it's a death of Swords but it's. very beautiful and then once you start. building it's a real Foundation because. if every day you have to be someone. you're not your. spirit it's in Conflict at all times.

like I you you're basically lying all. the time you're someone that you're not. and so when you're able to just be. yourself and just face the consequences. of whatever that means to just literally. be yourself you get to start rebuilding. the blocks in your life and you get to. decide like okay this is now a real. friend because I'm being me and they. want to be my friend like I am not. pretending to be something because I. want magazine covers I'm opport telling. to be someone I'm not because I'm trying. to make money and I think that's is and. I know that you're not on your journey I.

think you will get there eventually but. what brought me back to Faith is like. all of that wisdom is in the Bible like. when it says like you know you can't. serve you know both money and God right. and I think that what's happened a lot. in La is people are serving money. because there's of course there's an. anxiety that comes from like well what. am I going to do if I'm not doing this. and it makes it harder and harder as as. those wheels keep spinning and you're. just the whole industry is around you. and everything that you're getting. offered is in the industry like well. it's also a gamble because it's I I.

really took a gamble by posting Trump on. my page and endorsing him because. everyone everyone could have been like. Matt Walsh every single person there and. or anybody online you know that was on. that side could have been like Matt. Walsh and they weren't they were. actually very receptive and loving and. made me feel really accepted at the rnz. most people did most people were really. really great to me and they were really. nice and and I appreciate them very much.

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demons I think there are tons of things. that contribute to demons and it puts. your soul at conflict and so I did a. show um last week where I was talking. about how many people in the industry. rappers have spoken out and said that. they feel like they sold their soul to. the devil like specifically that. language or that they were wrestling. with demons because of what they were. putting out all the time and I wanted to. because we talked about cardi B and she. sometimes has this break online and. she's crying and I I can't explain to. you like my heart I just want to hug her.

when I hear it but there's this uh tape. that's out there of her having one of. these moments again where she's talking. about demons and I want you to hear it. this kind of why I didn't want her to do. this song shake it or like any drill. songs. because it's like these songs are. activating like these demons that I. killed you know what I'm saying like I. don't want to be that girl anymore like.

like I just I just want to be a mother. you know what I'm saying. like I don't want to be that old cardi. anymore I'm not kidding when I say that. like it makes me want to cry hearing her. say that literally exactly how I feel. and I didn't even hear that Candace when. we first started this interview and I. can look at cardi and she reminds me of. myself I know I can watch what she post. I I've seen other things that she said. and I'm like that's me all day every day.

she's done Ellen she's done all these. like um late night talk shows and I've. seen them they're like so you were a. stripper she's like I'm an international. Superstar you know and like that's the. first thing they go to they do the same. exact thing to me and and I can tell in. her voice I've been there yo I promise. you I've I've I've been there so many. times and once I set myself free and.

um and now I'm just able to just be who. I want to be whatever that is even. moving forward she'll she'll eventually. get there but she needs to get she needs. a clean house with her entire team fire. all those mother get brand new people in. Period people that are not going to. intimidate her that it's going to be. over for her if she doesn't clap her ass. on Instagram I've been there they've. done that to me for years like cardi if.

you are listening like you are special. and you're you don't have to do this if. you want to be a mom you can still be a. mom and you can still be a rapper you. don't have to be a poring rapper you. don't like and I hear the stuff that she. says it and I had a walk I get it I. lived it we we've done the same thing. you know I think like I yeah I want her. to know that like she and that's how I. felt when I was so protective of you. like when I saw TMZ harassing you like. to every person you have a right to.

evolve absolutely and the second someone. tries to pigeon hole you and say you're. not allowed to evolve that person is. literally trying to corrupt your spirit. you you're not they don't want your. spirit to flourish and they want you to. only see yourself one way and so when I. saw that video of her crying and there. other videos of for crying and that is. because she has children now and she's. she's a different stage in her life. right she was talented not because she.

was a stripper she was a star not. because she was a stripper when I was. watching her on Love and& Hip Hop I. didn't care about the fact that she was. a stripper she was a star because she's. a star and I feel no one in her circle. is telling her that like you do not have. to do this at all because you will still. have fans because you're talented. probably not yeah they're probably not. Candace they're they've never told me. they never told me that there was. another way out just you know what the. other way out is just be. yourself it's really it's the easiest.

thing you can do is really just be. yourself cuz right now in Hollywood. we're all being someone else we are our. personas and it's crazy cuz when people. actually get to know me as a person. they're like wow you are really nerdy. you're nothing you're not hypersexual at. all and um I'm very like traditional in. a lot of ways you know but life has. dealt a hand sometimes you know and um.

and that's just how it is but yeah if. you're if you're just going to be. yourself it's just the best way to go. whatever that is I want to talk to you. about your only fans account because. there was so much misinformation on the. web about this when everyone after you. got kicked in the head by the left then. the right came in and said no we're. going to kick you too and look we found. her and she's on only fans and she's. literally just doing this because she. wants a bunch of people to sign up to. her only fans I was like M I feel like. there's more to the story cuz the girl. that I just spoke to on the phone was.

very genuine so can you explain to. everybody why there wasn't only fans. account because of course the people. that were coming at you yeah actually. had not paid to see whether or not you. were posting sex content or what was. happening yeah so I never posted sex. content I've never done porn in my life. uh at all um I've never been a. prostitute in my life I just supposed to. like really like sexy pictures and stuff. um. but um funny enough I I get on Twitter.

I'm not on Twitter as much as I am on. Instagram which is why I have more. followers on Instagram but I go on. Twitter and I'm just like you know the. RNC just happened and I'm like let me. see what's if anyone's arguing on. Twitter and I saw that people were like. oh she has the only fans and she's. available right now to. talk and I'm like no I don't I haven't. been on only fans in 2 years and so I. called my assistant Joe and and I'm like. Joe why does my only fan say that it's.

available now that was supposed to be. deleted a long time ago I haven't given. any content or anything like that and. he's like I don't know let's I call my. business manager and she's like well you. know we had this company that was doing. all the DMS for you and when you said. you didn't want to do only fans anymore. they were still doing the DMS and you. were probably I don't want to see how. much I was making a month but she was. like you were still kind of making good. money every month and you weren't doing. anything and so I was like you cannot do.

this to me if I told you that I was done. it should have been deleted two years. ago I'm not an avid online only fans. person I'm not going on only fan to see. if my account is up there and what's. crazy was actually in my bio and I have. several links in my bio but you have to. click a certain link to go to the only. fans link and I'm My Own persons I don't. click my own bio you know.

um and it it made me very upset but I. also didn't fire her because I was like. I know she was just trying to um I have. a lot of different streams of Revenue. that that go into my accounts and stuff. like that and I know she was trying to. look out but I'm like don't ever do that. to me again when I say it's over it's. over so you hadn't posted any new. content for over a year two years almost. I feel like yeah it's it's it's. definitely been over a year for sure. residuals coming in via the DM or. whatever and so they had the service and. they were like look the money's coming. in like what's the point of deleting.

this bank account essentially exactly. okay that makes that makes sense because. I was realizing I was like has anybody. actually signed up to see if she's. posting content or if she just has an. old only fans way no I have not uh did. content for only fans and such a long. time right so I was just as shocked as. everyone else on Twitter when it was. like a available now on only fans and. I'm like and they put a sale up I mean. it's embarrassing you do really hear a. lot of this in the industry the more. that I speak to people and it's funny.

because I keep going back to Kanye but. you know he said so much to me that I. couldn't even comprehend a couple of. years ago about what's going on in. Hollywood and I think that he senses the. demonism and I think he really wanted. out like I think everyone was like. what's he doing he's blowing up his life. I was like no I think he literally wants. to blow up his life he he doesn't want a. pathway back to Hollywood because he has. seen it up close and he thinks that a. lot of elements of it are demonic and. the more that you speak to people in the. industry like hearing you say that. there's this pressure like if you want a.

book you got to this is what you have to. do here's what you have to do it does. make you wonder why it got to be like. this you know what I mean like it how. many times I've been offered a tell all. book about Kanye and my relationships or. my ex-husband and I refuse to do it. Candace I will never ever ever sell out. like that and I've been offered a lot. you know and I I've I've I've taken. punches. because um I choose to do other things.

instead of doing something like that cuz. I feel like if even if I didn't we. didn't work out in a relationship it. doesn't mean that I didn't love you. while we were together so um I wouldn't. do that but that's how Hollywood is it's. like oh you're not with uh so and so. anymore you want to write a book you. know and I was like bro I'll never go. out like that hell no no matter what I. won't do that but that's that's how it. is that's how it is in Hollywood for. sure yeah they're they're constantly.

especially amongst women it's it's all. about sex and I'm a person that I think. that the contributions that the. Kardashian family has made for women. have been and I'm not placing it. squarely on them but I just vividly. recall a shift in culture you know after. the Kardashian show where I think. women I don't know just kind of. saw sex on display all the time it was. like the number one show for a very long. time and and people began to Aspire like.

to glorify it in a way and that might. also just be the timing of the explosion. also of social media and they kind of. like I would say Kim kind of became like. the queen of Instagram in many ways and. people wanted to start embodying that. and holding that up as like a form of. idolatry like this is what we should be. like women should be sexy all the time. and at the same time you had other. movements that were taking place in in. different ways like of this modern. feminism that I hate so much because I. think that if. it operates or it tries to sell itself.

as Freedom right we're doing this. because we're free but in reality women. are enslaved by it because it then. becomes the only contribution that you. have like if you want to be heard you. need to take your clothes off like if. you want people to listen to you you. need to take your clothes off and I'm. like that is bondage that is not that's. not actually Freedom yeah no I agree um. which is crazy because I think that. people just thought I was just dumb or. just like good a dumb stripper and um. they didn't know that I was going to be.

as well well spoken as I was at the RNC. and. um you know um you're right it's just. like that and it's unfortunate and it's. something that a lot of women in the. industry are are still living with so I. hope that they I don't know maybe see. our interview. together and they just say you know what. let me just be myself whatever that is. instead of falling into Hollywood. interrupting this conversation to tell.

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are saying is not true but you need to. say it so that you have like so you can. keep doing it you know well yeah it's. it's she's saying it because the men. that pay her want to hear that she has. to still stay within the fantasy you. know what I mean and so like let's say. if you have an only fans and stuff and. you get on the whatever podcast you're. like actually I'm a good girl I've never. done porn in my life I'm really smart. and like I I just just kind of just talk. to these guys to make money but I. never do anything the guys are going to.

be like I'm never paying this girl any. money ever again so you have to go on. those podcasts essentially and say yeah. you know I had sex with 12 guys and like. you know maybe the guys are like cucks. that that give them money you know and. they like to hear things like that and. they're like oh you said what I wanted. you to say on the whatever podcast now. I'm going to send you. $1,500 that's how those things work. I will tell you doing slutwalk and. talking to a lot of women and sex.

workers 99% of sex workers do not want. to be sex workers and that's porn. prostitution stripping only fans all of. the above they don't want to do it and. I'll leave the 1% for girls that want to. argue with me online about how much they. love porn or. whatever I've talked to thousands of. girls throughout the years no body wants. to do that but the the problem is is.

that like we were saying upstairs the. feminism turned women masculine men beta. and now what happened is is that. um these girls have masculine energy and. the the guys are still beta they they. the guys also tell the. girls no one's ever going to marry you. you're damaged goods There's No. Redemption you know you're never going. to figure this out you might as well. just give up on life and so that doesn't.

actually help the girls either say. they're just like well I might as well. just stay in it no one's ever going to. love me. anyway um and so it's a vicious cycle. and that's why you know people getting. married like marriage rates are down and. divorce is up and um we just can't get. along with each other right I totally. agree yeah you and I have tons of. disagreements like I said you're in your. early phase and but I was there I I. vividly recall sitting across from Dave. ruin and I hadn't had it all figured out.

and I just knew I disagree with that one. thing and I now am probably considered. far right I guess I mean I'm as right as. I could possibly be on a lot of the. issues because it was like it was like. peeling back an onion I was like this. isn't true and then I was like oh wait. this isn't true and this is how feminism. plays into this and plays into this and. this is how this plays into this and. then finally I just was like I am a. Christian that's like Bible based and. because the Bible always had the answers. I was looking for but I want to talk.

about some things that we disagree with. because I want people to know that this. isn't an act like this is not an act. you've said what you believe and you. don't like it's not like you're checking. boxes and just saying stuff that you. would expect a Christian Conservative. Republican to say we disagree on trans. stuff I think do we I don't know I think. we do okay yeah where where are you at. on like the trans I call it the trans. agenda uh the explosion of. transgenderism I guess we could say yeah. so so um I grew up in the ballroom scene. I don't know if you know what that is in. the gay trans world I have no idea what.

that is okay so it's like it's mostly a. lot of people at the time that um their. families didn't really necessarily. accept them and so they created families. within that Community um and they named. those families different things and they. were called houses right um and so I was. in a house when I was younger my best. friend was like a gay boy he was like 13. or whatever and I was surrounded by. actual trans people now back in that day. which is the '90s.

2000s. um let's say a trans girl would get an. attitude with me the other trans girls. that were my friends would be like. you're a man don't do that to Amber like. you're a man I'm a man me and you can. fight but you're not going to touch her. so those are the trans women that I'm. used to being around that I grew up with. right um and it was kind of shady to. call like a trans girl man but they. would do that so here's the thing am I. for gender affirming care for children.

absolutely not I think we share that. same sentiment um am I for a gender. affirming care for consenting adults. absolutely now do I think that a lot of. people on Tik Tok and. Instagram um are actual trans people a. lot of them are not they're cosplaying. and they want to be a part of a. community they want attention. um are trans people real yes they're. very much real um and I think that those.

other people give the trans Community um. a bad name because they really just and. I'm sure Candace that you've been in the. bathroom with trans people probably. plenty of times just didn't even know. because they just went to use the. bathroom and no one cared and they. washed their hands and they left the. problem is is that there's literally. grown biological men with mustaches and. beards with you know shaving in the. women's locker room um not even remotely.

close to transitioning into a trans. woman and they make women feel. uncomfortable in women's spaces I'm not. for that at all you know but I think. like someone like Danielle for an. example that's very far in her. transition um and she has a full sex. change by the way I think she. understands that she is a biological. male but for me I I would call her she. her I I would just do that because she.

looks like a girl and she's so far into. her transition with the breast and the. softness in the face that I I wouldn't. be dis. disrespectful although um I think she. does understand that she is a biological. male so that's where I'm at with and I'm. also and I'm also for gay. marriage I think the more love that we. have especially in America cuz it's. really um The Happy The happier we would. all be so I think that and a lot of. white gay male couples adopt a lot of.

young black children that are that grow. up in foster care because they always. say that the black boys are last to be. picked I'm a mother of two black boys. and um my father was also in foster care. for most of his life and I think that um. I think that you know it gives these. kids an opportunity to go to a good. school and have a good life even if it. is Two Dads yeah so I think think and I. disagree with a lot of that almost all. of it almost all of it actually and I.

think sometimes the mischaracterization. is that conservatives don't view people. who are trans as people they're people. they're absolutely people I just in the. same way that I would not if someone who. was schizophrenic told me they were. Superman I wouldn't play the role with. them you know because I because they're. not children agree with you with that. yeah they're they're not a child you're. an adult so if I'm going to play Fantasy. going to play Fantasy with my children. who are toddlers but I I'm not going to.

do it with an adult because I think. that's part of the issue is that it's. now become so commonplace and you're. they're basically saying I'm the same as. you and you have to return I'm the same. as you and I'm like actually you're not. the same as me they're not and I don't. want you to suffer because I think. you're already suffering I actually. believe especially for a lot of these. people and I've sat across from uh. multiple people that are suffering with. transgenderism and one person especially. if they're very young and they go. through these procedures too young had. their entire life ruined and he looked.

across from me Brianna Ivy and said I. just wish somebody had said to me like. you're not this instead of being H. having Hollywood glamorize this and put. Caitlyn Jenner on exact same thing. you're talking about they make it look. it's going to be so amazing you're going. to be so happy and in reality you can. get on this path and there's you can't. go backwards once you get to a certain. point and he had the bottom surgery and. he was like I don't know I found well. they they Fast Track these young kids. they FastTrack them they cut their. breast off um they give them this the. gender assignment surgery um I actually.

agree with you Candace when it comes to. that um trans women are not women. they're not real women but they are. trans women and I'm I'm okay with that. term um but they are not or ever going. to be biological women so and I think. when it comes to gay marriage and it's. that again gets into my perception which. is so much further like eight years. along of looking into everything I just. know that the nuclear family is what has. always been under attack and they just. keep trying to stop a man and a woman. coming together getting married and.

having kids like that if you look at. every single one of these what I would. describe as leftist positions it's. always an attack on the family even. climate change like how do we get there. they're telling kids not to get married. or have kids because the planet's going. to be over in 10 years when you think. about transgenderism they're editing. their parts in a way they will never be. able to have productive families gay. marriage is obviously not a nuclear. family you cannot have children the. Natural Way feminism is poisoning. women's perspective on there's a lot of. children that need homes sure but there. are a lot of nuclear family mother and. fathers who would adopt them and so and.

I believe kids need as we were talking. about they're best advantaged when they. have a two parent home a mom and a dad. and I agree with you that being wardens. of the state you know you don't you. don't want kids to be wens of the state. I I grew up with a mother who spent time. in a group home I get that too but I. just think that there's this like person. this purposeful attack on just that. normal family structure because when you. have an family structure you have. virtually every advantage in life yeah I.

think that's an ideal situation right. that would definitely be the ideal. situation. but gay people can definitely go and. help out in the Foster system and adopt. children and give them a better life as. well so I agree with you that that may. be a more ideal situation but I still. think that two gay men can give a a kid. a great home and um a great education I. remember listening to this podcast by by. the way with you and Emily rowski and. she was saying and I was just like why.

are we doing this she was talking about. her son daughter I don't remember I. don't remember which one she has uh I. think a son maybe a son and I think she. was saying that she intentionally buys. him like girl toys because she wants him. to not think of things in terms of. gender and that is so Hollywood to me. like I'm like okay if a guy wants to go. be a guy that's what I mean about. intentionally perverting stuff cuz I'm. just like what is the problem like my. boy is so different from my girl you. have do you have both sexes boy and a. girl I have two boys two boys okay so.

you know how they are they are like see. well so I I would never buy my boy's. girl toys but if they were around the. little girl and her toy happens to be. there and my two three-year-old or. four-year-old would pick it up and play. with it I wouldn't say that's for girls. yeah I would just it's a toy and they're. young but I was I was so disturbed by. that I was just going why is she trying. to force him to be confused cuz she said. something like oh he instantly. gravitates towards the boy toys and I'm. like no play with the doll I'm I'm. totally no she didn't say that she.

didn't say this to you what did I say. you just said something like yeah I get. I don't remember what you said you just. were kind of like nicely agreeing but. I'm going why why are we doing this why. do we have to corrupt everything's. natural everything's normal and actually. she's admitting that there's a. difference here like and because there. is such a difference the boys are wild. yeah no you didn't you weren't saying. that you did it too but she was just. kind of remarking in how she's trying to. tell him to play with pink stuff and I. was going what is wrong with Hollywood. like why can't they why is there almost. like a I feel like there's a hatred for.

normal like there's just a hatred for it. and and I think it's part of the the. school and the education system sort of. teaching us that there is something. wrong with normal and that's what I was. saying to you about when you grow up you. have this perception of like the South. as being backwards and racist and people. that love the Bible and like go to. church and like what we should all. aspire to be is like New York and la and. they're shipping their lattes and. they're Progressive but I've now gotten. to a point where I've realized that it's. actually the opposite and the people in. the South that are being lied about and.

this the people that you met and that. you're talking about at the RNC where. you're hearing their stories they're. like the salt of the earth like they are. they were great I'm not going to lie I'm. not going to lie they were really really. great people and super nice and I I. didn't growing up in Philly I grew up in. a predominantly black City you know and. a black neighborhood and so I've never. really seen white people like that that. that type of white people you know Amber. Rose has never seen white people until. the r i my dad is white but he's you.

know and and that's the thing too East. Coast white people are very different. than down south white people um you know. cuz they're more like darker white like. Italians Greeks and stuff up on the east. coast and stuff like that it's it's a. different type of white Candace I know. you know what I'm saying know exactly. what you're saying Okay cool so like. these guys were like super white like. blonde hair blueeyed like white white. people um. I'm totally cutting that for the. internet like white white people you.

know what I mean I totally don't I'm not. saying it like that but I will say that. again we all have the same problems we. all have family members on drugs we all. have problems within our families and. turmoil and um stories to tell you know. and so we're all kind of in the same. boat as far as that goes yeah yeah. you're I know exactly what you mean and. it is surprising and I just want to say. this because I know that so many. Christians are ready reach out to you.

and have said this that they're praying. for you me and my husband are literally. praying for you because I I just have a. feeling it's a Vibe my team again will. make fun of me I'm A vibe girl okay but. I just think that God even though you're. saying you're an atheist there's no such. thing as an atheist there are different. churches and there and at some point I. think your faith was in Hollywood and it. you just converted away from God to. something else and it becomes feminism. it becomes climatism whatever it is I. think that this moment because I've been. feeling the Holy Spirit moving Russell. bran being drawn like this is a guy who.

was in Hollywood who is now praying the. Rosary every day and I spoke to him and. he just said he just felt something. moving and he realized and he's so well. positioned to speak about it because he. came from Hollywood and he was an addict. and they loved him when he was an addict. and then he cleaned up his life yeah and. then he cleaned up his life got married. had kids and start speaking about Jesus. Christ and they're like get the heck out. of here we will ruin you and I just feel. it for you like I think that everything. you went through God wanted you to go.

through that he wanted you to to believe. that he wasn't there like you know like. he wanted you to question whether or not. any of it's real and now it's because. you're going to be such a voice for all. of the young women that are watching. this who are on only fans who are giving. themselves who are crying at night who. are drinking to be able to go through. with prostituting their bodies a lot of. these only fan girls that I who also. Moonlight and they prostitute and they.

feel that they can never be anything. else and I think you are set up to be. something else so that they know that. it's possible I genuinely believe that. yeah I I want to figure out something. for these girls. um some type of nonprofit something to. help something I want to figure it out I. I have to figure it out um maybe I could. work with something that's already. available able so I don't have to start. anything by myself again but it has to. be done in a certain way so we we'll.

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podcast to talk to these people and like. I said I'm I feel like I'm going to see. you in four years and you're going to be. like I'm a Christian read my Bible. you're saying no but I'm telling you. when the Holy Spirit he's the holy. spirit's already moving with you just. don't see it and if somebody said to me. when I had first I I was always I was. like yeah I'm a Christian but it's. different now like I'm on I'm like on. fire for the Lord I really am and I you. know what I'll say this I wish that I. wish I was. I'll say that I wish that I was I missed. the feeling of the Comfort I had from.

God um but I don't believe in God I just. don't and I don't know if I can go back. to that because um o on my journey to. atheism a lot of times was mostly just. my mom saying just scaring the living. out of me when it comes to God and. demons and being a kid and saying we got. generational demons on our bag this. whole family we got generational demons. and I'm like dude I don't want a demon.

on my back I don't want a demon around. me like I don't have demons you can have. demons my aunt can have demons my uncle. can have demons I don't have demons and. that for me was far too much as a child. which in turn made me an atheist it's. just too much for me Candace I'm telling. you I'm these are going to be your. famous last words because I'm telling. you when you when you go different path. it's all too much for me it all starts. with realizing one lie and you realize. that there's only one author of lies and. that's Satan and there's only one author. of truth and that's God see I don't. believe Satan is real I don't believe.

Satan is a thing well you just you were. up close and personal with him in. Hollywood like that like what you're. hearing when when you hear CI talking. about I said goodbye to these demons. like she just is not realizing that's. real demons like I mean I resignate with. that figuratively but it's not. figurative she's wrestling with real. demons right and and they want you to. think it's figurative and I don't even. have to argue with this because I know I. just know how the holy spirit moves like. like I'm just. like just there was something pray and. prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed.

and my prayers were not answered you. don't think when I was a Christian you. don't think your prayers were answered. somebody said to me God never doesn't. answer your prayer he either says uh not. right now or I have something better in. store for you maybe maybe God answered. my prayers by all this that's what I'm. saying sure I'm telling you I think he. was like not right now and I'm sorry to. have to turn into a pastor right now but. I so let me ask you a question if I was. Hindu or Muslim you would still say the.

same thing I'm Christian I want. everybody to Believe In Christ yeah. Christ is the Lord Christ is the savior. and you like I said I remember feeling. like that and when I was like well if. God was real he wouldn't allow this to. happen to me he wouldn't allow this to. happen to me and then when I open myself. up and realized I'm like he put me in. that scenario because he knew that I. would be able to speak on this he wanted. me to go through this negative and this. negative because he knew that this was. the ultimate equation and he's the great. mathematician and he was like you need a.

plus here minus here minus here and. minus here and so when you're hitting. and you're seeing all these negatives in. your life you're just like well God. can't be real because why would he do. that and then when you let go I wish I. had what you had no but I I didn't have. it like I I'm saying now I wish I wish. that I had that because I feel like for. me it's too late no oh gosh I do feel. like it's too late it is not too late. and that's why you are at the beginning. of a new part of your life right now and. I am it is required that 5 Years From.

the day you come back on this podcast. okay five years to the day I'm going to. bring you back and I'm going to be. running the old Amber Rose clips and. it's going to be like I don't believe gu. I believe gu then we're going to be like. Oh I'm telling you I'm telling you I. have a feeling I just feel I'm working. all over okay if I if I were to ever. believe in God I don't I don't think it. would be the Christian God well God. believes in you. there's only one would be maybe like a. alien.

simulation God or something like. that something. like something like you know aliens from. another planet you been up in Silicon. Valley you've been up in Silicon Valley. too much listening to Elon Musk and AI. podcast too much BR I'm going to get you. out of Hol I'm going to get you out of. California in the South get you out of. that I'm going to come and visit more. often I'm going to I'm going to see what. this place is about and you know and. everyone who's watching this the. Christians are going to be praying for. you so it's a wrap thank you Christians.

like when when I get you baptized and. confirmed the cathol oh my goodness girl. I'm scared that Catholic gang gang I'm. scared I'm scared of that but Amber I. have to get unscared yeah there's. religion it scares living childhood. dealing with some and Trauma from your. childhood and that's not religion is not. supposed to be scary in that way like. it's well I told you praying used to. give me a lot of comfort that's why I. let my my children do it but over time. I'm terrified of the when I see the. Bible it scares me it really does the.

missile yeah I I and maybe it is trauma. that I have to work through but I'm not. ready yet well well you don't have to be. ready at and that's what I want you to. give the permission is like take it one. day at a time and don't let anybody make. you feel pressured to know the right. thing to say the right thing and know. that you are going to say the wrong. thing and I think people are scared of. that like if I'm not perfect immediately. even me. becoming Catholic I had such I still. have anxiety I because I'm so afraid I.

understand like there are cameras. everywhere and now if I mess up it's. going to be a headline and I had to deal. with that and go listen I'm not going to. get it perfect and I pray for grace I. ask people publicly for grace and I'm. asking people that are listening to this. to just give her some Grace you know. give her some space it took a lot for. her to say even one true thing and I. hope you guys watching this that you've. heard her heart in the way that I heard. it on the phone and realize this is a. real person and she does not have it all. figured out right now and she may never.

have it all figured out because I don't. have it all figured out right now but. it's all about whether or not you are. willing and brave enough to change your. mind and evolve when you realize that. you've gotten something wrong for sure. so am we are all praying for you and. I'll see you back here Candace in. exactly 5 years to the day so I can say. we shall see haha told. yourself thanks for having me I really. appreciate it this is fun. [Music].