A Tale Of Two Statements: Mikey McCoy’s Interview. Macklemore’s Mic Drop. | Ep 387

All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. What. do I have in store for you all today? Well, I have some interesting footage of. Mikey McCoy giving what appears to be. his witness statement to an officer. shortly following Charlie's. assassination. Now, let's be clear. Mikey McCoy giving a witness statement. is not immediately suspicious. In fact, it's expected, right? But there is a. specific detail which caught my eye. regarding who in particular was sent to. take Mikey McCoy's statement and I think.

it's rather controversial. And in somewhat related news, have you. noticed that Turning Point USA 2.0, just. to be clear, under CEO Erica Kirk. appears to be openly promoting sexual. deviants to do their bidding for them. Like they're suddenly in with the. crooks, really scraping the bottom of. the barrel. Well, another person in. their influencer orbit has been caught. Some might say caught in 4K, literally. sexually assaulting a woman. We're going. to talk about that. And lastly, we have. to get into this Ed Sheeran dilemma. It.

is highly relevant to all things that we. are talking about. An artist gets on. stage. He says, "Free Palestine. Suddenly, powerful sexual deviant type. billionaires rise up to try to destroy. him." Is Ed Sheeran going to take a. stand? Well, the artists around him. certainly are. Does Ed Sheeran have the. power to let power go? We're going to. find out. Welcome back to Candace.

You know what, guys? I just want to say. right at the top here, the more I think. about it, like just in the privacy of my. own thoughts, the more outrageous it. becomes that we continue to be gaslit. about Terrell Farnsworth. I'm really. angry about this Terrell Farnsworth bit. Just the amount of evidence that we have. produced that he is shady. Terrell. Farnsworth might just be my hill to die.

on. It is just reaching a level of of. absurdity. He's actually cartoonishly. sneaky. we were talking about today a. stereotype of trying to get away with. it. An episode of Looney Tunes. Here he. is. I just want to show you guys this. really quick here up the top. And before. anyone falsely accuses me of having. edited this clip, I will state for the. record that the audio captured is in. fact real and it has not been edited in. any way whatsoever. Take a look.

Dang it.

And that's all, folks. How is this legal? How is this legal? Something about that has to be illegal. We all agree, right? I'm just going to. say it again for the record. Should that. man venture into the state of Tennessee, I will be conducting a citizen's arrest. Terrell Farnsworth, you are not safe. here in the state of Tennessee. Okay, I.

will capture you. That's all, folks. Anyway, now on to some rather curious. things. You know, from the very. beginning of this, I've been on to them. I look in retrospect at the earlier, and. I see why it was just a fullbore attack. on Candace Owens because I'm obviously. very good at pattern recognition. I had. very early on put together that. connecting themes, spreadsheets. Uh, like I said, haters can hate, but. they're only making me stronger. And I. recognized early on this weird recurring.

theme regarding human trafficking, right? People working with and around. charities that are particularly tied to. Eastern Europe, uh, from Erica Kirk and. her Romanian angels to all of these. characters that she kind of put around. Charlie, these pastors. I'm going to. bring up and briefly go through this. spreadsheet because it's relevant, um, when we are going to get to Mikey McCoy. Okay, so I'm going to look at this. trafficking sex abuse. You know, obviously that plane that took off, we. never got an answer as to who was on it, but they do run this you abuse.

trafficking victims charity. Uh Colonel. Otto B O Busher of course was accused of. running a brothel with Romanian children. from 2011 2015 at the Romanian military. base. He worked with Erica's Romanian. angels during this time. David. Fraudsham. He was the civilian commander. that was stationed at Fort Wuka who was. charged with running a child sex abuse. ring. Turning Point USA Faith, forget. it. I mean, it's all over. But, uh, in. particular, Pastor Greg Lori immediately.

after Charlie passed, the first tour. that they did, Make Heaven Crowded tour. kind of sounds like a threat, but Erica. had him on on the headlining paperwork, right? She didn't an event with Harvest. Church immediately. not a conflict for. her that they were they are currently. going through the court system being. accused of trafficking children from. Romania. You would think she'd want to. avoid that. Uh given what the internet. is has dug up about her past and her. history, but no, she went into that. Uh. he denies the charges there. He doesn't.

deny that people may have been being. trafficked. He's basically saying it's. not systemic and one person does not. represent the church. Now, George Zinn, of course, was arrested for having. pornographic images of children on his. phone. We'll get into that in a bit. Andrew Pascado, you'll remember, he was. one of the uh people that the feds. questioned on September 10th. He also in. his own capacity works to ring the alarm. on military Ukrainian sex trafficking. into the United States. Okay. We have.

the Calvary Chapel Church. We've done. episodes on this riddled with pastor. abuse stories. It almost seems systemic. like they are finding these shady. characters and making them pastors. uh. perhaps as a mechanism to control. people. We'll discuss that in a bit. Glenn Beck, his daughters were there. Um. he was very much involved in the media. on September 10th. Him and Tim Ballard. started Operation Underground. It was. Glenn Beck that funded it. Tim Ballard. had the idea and uh yeah, that's a. Operation Underground is rescuing.

children from human sex trafficking. I. believe their story began in Haiti. I. did interview Tim Ballard. Erica uh. lived in China and worked with child sex. trafficking victims. According to her, we have not been able to locate who she. was working with at that time. TPUSA. adviser Paul Valle is the retired army. general who ran psychological operations. and co-wrote a book with Michael Aino. who was a Satanist and a founder of the. Temple of Set, former Satanist who then. became the founder of the Temple of Set.

uh accused of abusing children at the. Army Child Development Center. Victor. Markx, obviously, you know, he says that. he helps with human trafficking. Um. profits from his supplement comp company. go to his child trafficking charity, All. Things Possible. Yako Buyans also runs a. charity for child sex abuse. I don't. know if his is called All Things. Possible. We might have put that twice, but he he does run a charity for child. sex abuse victims. Um Nela Buckman, who.

they announced as the biggest donor to. Turning Point USA ever, uh is. extensively involved in the rescue of. children who are sexually abused and. trafficked. Marcus Wada, that's more. trafficking arms in Poland. Rick Cutler. rescued kids from sex trafficking in. South America. Um he did that via. Operation Underground, which I said. mentioned was funded by Glenn Beck. Phil. Goldsbury uh you know it is um his son. that Mike Charlie we told you about him. co-founding Sofur Global Ministries a.

501c3 that provides medical care and. training to orphans in Romania, Albania. and Ukraine. Okay. Um sorry I don't know. if Philip is the son. I think Philip is. actually the son. It should be the the. father. We Oh, it's Junior. That's. right. They're both Philip Goldsbury. Pardon me. We're going to talk about. officer Christopher Bagley. So I'm going. to skip that. and now judge Tony and we. can come off of this. This is fine. So. anyways, this this pattern then. continues as it pertains to now the.

individuals that are directly involved. in handling the Charlie Kirk case in. Utah. So Judge Graph, right, newly. appointed by Governor Cox um in August. of 2025, just before Charlie's. assassination, uh spent seven years with. Salt Lake City District Attorney's. Office. I want you to remember that the. District Attorney's Office because we're. going to speak about them a few times. He was prosecuting child and adult. sexual crimes. Before then, he was. leading the special victim's unit at the. Utah County's attorney attorney's.

office, who we're also going to discuss, before moving to Davis County Attorney's. Office, where he continued handling. physical and sexual abuse cases. Now, credit to Baron Coleman's team for. sourcing this clip. I think it's from. around 2022ish of Judge Graph discussing. what percentage of the work that he does. that is related to that topic. Take a. listen to Judge Graph in his own words. >> I am so grateful for what I do. I my my. specialty.

uh and the area that I find that I just. find the most fulfillment is special. victims prosecution. So 95% is sex. crimes prosecution for uh children and. adults. And so I am very grateful that I. get to work with uh that segment and. work with these victims who are. incredible and they are some of the most. challenging cases, difficult, heartbreaking. Yeah, >> it is where the most work is needed and.

and I'm grateful to work in that and I. work in it now and and I will work in. that area until I no longer can. >> Okay, 95%. Again, not accusing him of. anything. These are just facts about all. of these people. This is what they do. This is the space they work in. Then, of. course, there is the curious case of the. former undercover detective Mike. Mitchell, right? the lynch pin to this. entire case against Tyler Robinson in my. opinion if you ask me because he's the. one who claimed that he recognized Tyler.

Robinson in the news uh because you know. he used to mentor him in Boy Scouts and. then he's the one that then goes over uh. to Matt Robinson's house and gets them. to call over Tyler convinces them all. that they should peaceibly surrender. despite Tyler Robinson's objections and. saying that he was did not murder. Charlie Kirk. Um, but he says, "Look, they they have your information. You can. do this the peaceable way or you can be. subject subjected to police banging down. your doors." It's worth noting that Mike.

Mitchell was an undercover detective in. internet sex crimes um against children. That was what he was doing. Now, Officer. Christopher Baggley, we briefly went. over this. He is our officer who they. used uh at the preliminary hearing. Uh. his body cam footage notoriously went. off after about what 25 minutes. He's. the one that found the screwdriver on. the rooftop which was the only which.

actually the screwdriver was proven. really doesn't tell us that it's Tyler. Robinson's DNA. I'm not going to get. into that today. But that was their only. link to Tyler Robinson. The screwdriver. on the rooftop. He finds it. Didn't. capture the moment. Unfortunately, his. body cam footage failed him. He too. formerly worked in child sex crimes at. Utah County Sheriff's Office before he. left and joined the UVU police force. I. believe that was in 2022. And of course, our decoy boy number one, George Zinn, who created a distraction.

by shouting, "I did it. I did it." in. the immediate aftermath of the explosive. going off. It turns out he was not. working sex crimes over the internet, but he was committing them, right? Because after arresting him, it was. discovered that he had child pornography. on his phone, uh, pertaining to a. 5-year-old, by the way. So, this is a. truly disturbed, sick individual. And it. leads many sensible people to wondering. whether or not he was blackmailed into. doing that, into jumping up and down and. creating a distraction. The New York.

Post covered this. Uh it's not an. article worth reading because it's it's. incredibly disturbing, but he did in. fact get sentenced to child sex crimes. Now, beyond this, it was recently. discovered by Baron Coleman that the. first six search warrants involved in. Charlie's assassination were all signed. off by a man named Michael George Carl. Okay? Now, we're talking about warrants. What we mean is that the police are. required to file for search warrants if.

they want to seize or collect critical. evidence. It was Michael George Carl who. signed off for those warrants on the day. of Charlie's assassination. I want you. to take a listen to Baron uh describing. uh his background, what his Michael. George Carl's background is in, and you. won't be surprised. Michael George Carl. signed the six first search warrants in. this case. Michael George Carl, he's a. police officer. He signed the first six.

search warrants, including George Zen's. search warrant. We'll talk about George. Zen in just a second. So, let's go look. at Michael George Carl and see if we can. find a connection to this industry. Why would Michael George Carl be so fast. to be on this? Well, let's look here. This is his training that is listed on. his affidavit. The FBI child. exploitation task force. He was on the. Lehigh Police Department in the special. victims unit. Worked crimes against.

children. Emphasis in online intimate. crimes. Uh task force officer with the. FBI child. task force. Lead detective on several intimate. crimes. currently assigned with the. Special Victims Unit, the SVU, with the. Utah County Sheriff's Office. Primarily. assigned primarily assigned to work. cyber crimes involving the exploitation.

of the youth, intimate exploitation of the youth. That's his primary assignment. And he is. the first one to go in and sign the. first six search warrants, including on. George Zen. As an SVU detective, he's investigated. several cases involving these types of. crime and minors, online enticement of these people. In his current assignment, he's. investigating online crimes against.

young people. Also attended and. completing the training at ICAC. Bootstrap Academy. I'll talk about the. ICAC in a second. have since been. approached by the FBI child. e-word task force. I know what the word. is. I don't want to say it out loud. And. was reinstated as a task force officer. with the FBI child eword task force. Now, ICA is the internet crimes against. children.

>> Okay. So, why is this guy immediately. the one that is signing off on warrants? And I want to be clear, uh, it's. announced around 2:45 Utah local time. that that Charlie has passed. He has. signed off for these first warrants at. about 3:19 p.m. So, he had these ready. to go. And what are these warrants for? Tyler Robinson's phone. Okay. What. What's a guy who specializes in internet. crimes against children doing signing. off on these on these warrants? Tyler. Robinson's phone. Uh, the Google server.

that would have Tyler's phone location. data on September 10th. He signs off on. that. The cell towers that are. surrounding UVU, he signs off on that. Um, he files for that. George Zinn's. phone. Uh, Charlie's belongings at. Tempogo. So, we've been talking about, uh, where are Charlie's belongings? Well, this is the person that's behind. these warrants. Surveillance footage. from Inter Mountain Health Utah Valley. Hospital. That was a strange case. We. said Charlie had a file there. We don't.

know. Then we learned that the. surveillance footage was also seized. from Inter Mountain Health Utah Valley. because they said that the perpetrator. was driving around. Okay, that was their. their excuse to seize this footage. Um, and also the warrants to search Ma Ma. and Amber Robinson's house as well. Again, why would someone with a career. emphasis on sex crimes against children. be jumping in on this public. assassination that had nothing to do. with children or the internet? Okay. By.

the way, here's a diagram so that you. can uh always record what we're sharing. so people don't lose track of uh people. that are involved I guess in this career. like they're working obviously George. Zinn being the exception here as someone. who was committing a crime against. children. These people are all. specializing in this throughout their. career. Now Baron mentioned there at the. end the ICAC again that stands for. internet crimes against children. And.

even if you somehow go okay maybe for. some reason they decided that this guy. Michael George Carl is the right person. to have gone after these warrants. You. would think it would be suspicious if. the AC was immediately sent down to UVU. to get involved in the case on the. ground that day. I'm talking even before. the state bureau of investigations gets. there. You put a on the ground. Okay, I.

want you to take a look at this. never-beforeseen clip from September. 10th and I'm going to describe for you. what you are seeing. Okay. So, if you look up in that top right. quadrant, you're seeing Mikey. He is on. the phone. Mikey is um he's got to be on. the phone there. And behind him, you see. three officers that are walking with. him. Walking behind him, rather. They're. going to soon be walking with him. Okay. The female that is amongst them is going.

to begin taking Mikey McCoy's assistant. Okay. Mikey McCoy statement, pardon me. What. happens here is essentially um Mikey is. going to end his phone call with Danny. Phillip. We know that that is Danny. Phillip he's on the phone with because. we have we were given by Erica his call. logs, right? And so he is on the phone. with Danny Phillip. He concludes that. phone call and then his statement is. going to be taken by that female and. she's wearing a vest, make no mistake,

that says ICAC. His statement is taken. by the Internet Crimes Against Children. That's who he's walking with. Let's. watch her begin to take this statement. And we can also show you some photos. here. There she is. Police. And then we'll show you on her vest. where it says ICIC. and she hits the record and they begin.

this. process of getting what I obviously I am. inferring is his statement on what took. place on this day. Lots of questions. here. I'm going to show you some photos. uh so as not to be confused. Um here is. a still here and here is a another. still. Um, obviously this is taking place. behind the Denali that Blake Nef, you. can see right there. This a clear. picture of her vest to show you police.

and then it says Utah ICA. So there's no. mistake that that is who she is with. And this is I mean we're talking 25. minutes um after Charlie shortly before. 1:00 p.m. Mikey McCoy still hanging. around. So there was definitively no. rush to get to the hospital. Again, they're standing behind the SUV that uh. Blake Nef and being Uber driven by Danny. Phillip. It makes me think there was. somebody in that front seat before. This. is where his like memory gets cloudy. Obviously, if they wanted to race to go.

be with Charlie or to follow him, they. had that option. They had their car. They had a car that was there. Instead, Mikey's hanging around. And this person. is coming to take Mikey's statement. Why. Mikey of all people? Why internet crimes. against children? Okay, ladies and. gentlemen, I'll ask the question. Is. Mikey McCoy a child? Was he being exploited over the internet. on September 10th? If you answered no to. these questions, and you might be. wondering like me, why would it be the. circumstance that in the presence of the.

FBI, eventually the SBI, the UVU police. are already there, SWAT is already. there, US Marshalss, even the Utah State. University um police are underground uh. are um undercover and they're on the. ground. Why on earth would they appoint. a woman from internet crimes against. children to take Mikey McCoy statement. about 25 minutes after Charlie's hit? Make that make sense to me. Why are they. there at all? Your job is to track.

criminals on the internet. This was not. an internet crime and no children that. you should have known would be involved. on a college campus. And even if you did, the crime didn't. happen on the internet. So, this feels. weird to me. Uh, what are they doing. here? Who sent them? The question I had. is literally, who sent them? Who made. that call? And the likely answer, I. can't be totally certain, but I I am. certain that the attorney general's.

office is who controls the ICAC. That's. who runs the ICAC, the Attorney. General's Office of Utah, the same. attorney general's office that then. brought in Lance for a second statement. um to uh in April before then recording. the interview. The attorney general's. office as who the ICAC works under and. they are based there in Salt Lake City. So maybe this woman worked locally out. of the ORM Police Department. I don't.

know. I would like to know who she is, but it makes no sense that they would. have tasked her with taking that. statement. By the way, might be relevant if you're. wondering about the history because it's. nationwide now. Every state has an AC. division. If you're wondering about who. established that, the answer is the. Department of Justice. The United States Department of Justice. established the Internet Crimes Against. Children Task Force Program back in 1998.

to help states and local law enforcement. fight technology facilitated child. sexual exploitation. Again, that's not. what occurred on September 10th. So, here's what I want to say. To me, when I look at everything that we've. come across, it feels like an. intentional control mechanism. In my. opinion, in my strong opinion, this feels like a. control mechanism that's being directed. by the feds. Like this is one big group.

And for some reason, the feds wanted. them in particular to have their hands. everywhere in this case. cuz I have been. saying since the beginning that it seems. to me again opinion allegedly according. to Candace. the research that I have done that. Epstein's network reemerged in not for. profofit world in 2018 right I believe. that that is actually a plausible motive. a plausible big reason that Charlie was. murdered given everything that we've.

looked at Trump's phone call yelling at. him for speaking about the Epstein case. Trump's protection of the Epstein. network the gaslighting of the American. people we know his donors are involved. Uh we know that that is in particular. what Tucker Carlson was speaking about. on stage. Um he was speaking about. Jeffrey Epste. He was asking where Bill. Aman's money came from. Um and he was. talk speaking to power when Charlie said. to go Max. It was problematic. Um and I. believe that a machine was built around. Charlie. He had no idea or understanding.

as to what was happening. Neither did I. at the time. I was with him. Um, I have. expressed my belief that I I I think. Erica was sent and set up to go after. Charlie. I I'm not going to pivot my. opinion on that based off of everything. that I have seen her do. Uh, which flies. in the face of everything he stood for. where she has taken this organization. Uh, what we know, how we know he was. being squeezed, the people that are were. lying about what Charlie was going. through. There's no reason to lie about. arguments that were being had the day. before and pretending that he wasn't.

under pressure from Israel. We know that. Epstein was Israel's guy. Okay, that. that's too much coincidence for me. By the way, speaking of the Utah. County's attorney office in general, in. general, because people have sent us so. many tips about uh various things that. have gone on that have been. controversial, that used to be up until. the 20122, the attorney general um of. Utah was a man named David O. Levit. And.

there was a massive scandal. There were. actually a few scandals regarding him. Uh none which have been proven. He's not. been found guilty of anything. and he. says that this was because of. politicking and people who didn't want. him to get um elected. But I will say that I do not know as a. dirty political strategy people accusing. you of cannibalism. I'll say that as to. one thing. So I do want to tell you a. couple things about David Levit because. this is curious. Okay. Back in 2017,

um if you're going Kenneth, this is. gonna have something to do with Eastern. Europe. Duh. Okay. He was seeking. support connected to adopting a northern. Native American child, a Cheyenne child, and he met with the tribal president and. proposed a relationship between the. tribe and Ukraine. Okay. Involving Buffalo. This is just I. don't even know where else but an Erica. Kirk story where you could suddenly be.

talking about Native Americans and. Eastern Europe as we did our Erica. series and going, "What's going on? why. is her mom doing so much stuff on Native. American reservations? We've got this. same thread. Um, and he basically. proposed to have a relationship with the. president of Ukraine that we installed. after the color revolution back in when. was the color revolution? Back in like. 2005. Uh, he pitched this proposal for the tribe. to have a relationship with Ukraine.

You you know what people like about. Native American reservations? No rules. No federal rules. So, I find that to be remarkably. suspicious. Um, then there was back in. 2020, there was a federal HSI. whistleblower case where an HSI analyst. alleged that personnel received video. evidence in April of 2020, potentially. implicating Levit in violations of. federal trafficking trafficking and.

Indian child welfare laws. But they. ultimately failed to open an. investigation. There was no criminal. finding against Levit. Then the big one. that I was just telling you about which. involved cannibalism in May and June of. 2022. There was a ritual child ritual. abuse investigation. Again, this is this. is the attorney general, right? The Utah. County Sheriff's Office announced that. there was an investigation into alleged. ritualistic child sexual abuse and child.

trafficking dating back approximately uh. between 1990 and 2010. Levit himself. then revealed in a 151 page victim. statement associated with the case that. he was named and that he was being. accused him and and numerous others were. being accused of ritual abuse, murder. and cannibalism. And he said that that was like being. politically manufactured. I don't know, like I said, as a strategy to keep.

people out of office that I've ever. heard of someone being accused of. cannibalism. That seems a bridge too. far. Uh, so there's a lot going on here. in Utah that makes me very uncomfortable. and I wanted to share that with you. because I think it's important to know. that it feels like we're coming up. against real power. Um, obviously from. the beginning we have known that given. the players that are involved. But it is. not a coincidence that all of these. people have, in my opinion, it's not a. coincidence that all of these people uh.

seem to have threads that relate them or. correlate them to this one specific. issue of child sex abuse. I think that. that's that's remarkable and it should. be noted and I wanted to make sure that. I shared that with you guys. Um, when we. get back, we're going to talk about some. of these influencers that they have now. partnered with because this is a new. organization under Erica Kirk. It should. be noted this is new. It is different. And as a parent myself, I would never.

ever ever allow my children to be. involved with Turning Point USA. Ever. I. want to say that strongly. I want to. state that repeatedly given everything. that we have uncovered, the non-existent. answers that we are being given that. this is not the organization in my view. that Charlie Kirk built and their. insistence on wanting to have access to. high school students. It it alarms me. I. don't like it. It makes me. uncomfortable. I don't buy Erica's. [ __ ] um at all. Actually, it's not. difficult to answer questions when there.

are um reasonable answers to be given. She has refused that when I have emailed. before we ran the episode, when people. came and said that she was working um. with the modeling agency and said that. she was the person that was in charge of. the modeling apartments uh in New York. City that had Eastern European underage. models. I emailed them and asked for a. statement. They could have easily and. flatly denied that. uh an office where. Epstein frequented someone he was very.

close with Faith Kates running that. modeling agency and or a modeling agency. that started started by John Luke. Brunell uh of France who uh was found. suicided as they say in France when FC. went down. That would be something that. a normal person would just respond to. and say no. I find it very suspicious. that she did chose not to respond or to. answer those allegations. Uh, and I just. find that where there is smoke, there. tends to be fire. And so I do want to.

again assert that until these questions. are answered and responded to in a. meaningful way that I do not believe. that parents and college students, especially high school students, should. be involving themselves with Turning. Point USA. And this is not the full. picture. By the way, the people that. were working that day for Turning Point. USA, we have found cases that are going. on in the background that involve this. same topic and um we're just holding on. that for some other specific reasons.

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Okay, so the Epstein network in general. runs on blackmail. Obviously, we all. understand that. Uh that is they find. something about you. who's typically a. some form of sexual deviency. This is. why he was throwing parties. It's why. they bring underage girls. Once they. capture you, they sort of have you. forever. So, that's sort of the. methodology. And there has been. something that has that just sort of. makes my skin crawl about a lot of these. influencers who are clearly working 24. hours a day uh to delude the public into. not believing their own eyes. Right? I.

don't find that I I see these people. like Paramount Tactical, he makes a skin. crawl. I I just can't explain it, but. there's something not right with him. Um. and then they try to bring in these. people as if they're experts, right? So. instantly we saw Turning Point USA uh. using uh Paramount Tactical and like oh. he's a former Green Beret so he's he can. explain to you why magic bullets might. split in the air and bounce off of. Charlie's neck and it's a modern-day. miracle. And similarly they introduced. this character Matt Tardio because.

Turning Point never wants to explore the. plausibility that it's not Tyler. Robinson. Like I said, it's like their. lives and freedom depend upon it. It. depends upon it being Tyler Robinson. And so they regularly bring in these. people. And Matt Tardio is one of these. individuals. Popped up out of nowhere. Former Green Beret. And I'm going to. show you just how quickly he got on the. it was not Israel who killed Charlie. Kirk narrative. This is an actual clip. of him visiting Israel shortly after. Charlie Kirk passed away. Take a listen.

I went for a run this morning over. inside Tel Aviv along the beach against. Gro's better judgment. And I want you. guys to see something for all of you. that think Israel thought it'd be a good. idea to kill Charlie Kirk because I know. for some reason people think Israel. wanted to kill Charlie Kirk. Now I don't. read Hebrew, but I'm pretty sure. they didn't do it. Just thought. Well, there you go. If there's a poster.

of Charlie and they say they love. Charlie, then Israel didn't do it. That. seems like pretty sound positive. evidence to me. I don't know why all. people who murder people don't just. think to do that like like it's a. missing cat in the neighborhood. Put a. poster and then if if the feds come or. the police come, you say, "Well, it. obviously wasn't me. Sir, look at this. I would never put up a photo of someone. who I killed." I mean, just pointedly. ridiculous propaganda. Um, and like I. said, they're never actually trying to. pursue any evidence. They're just trying.

to shut it down immediately. So, Matt. Tardio then after we revealed footage. and they were suggesting that we had. manipulated it which showed that the. person walking in the parking lot, the. maroon shirt person is thicker is is is. much wider. It does not look like it to. our according to our own eyes does not. look like it is Tyler Robinson. person. is not as thin as was presented. throughout the court hearing. And after. we presented that, of course, Turning. Point USA didn't contact me going, "Wow, that's really interesting. Do you have. more footage? We want to know who killed.

Charlie." Instead, they brought on this. Matt Tardio onto the Charlie Kirk show. to debunk this. So, take a quick look at. this. Without further ado, we've got. Matt Tardio joining us now. He is a. former Army Ranger sniper and explosives. expert, and he's the host of Speak the. Truth uh podcast. So, check that out on. YouTube and other places. Matt, welcome. back to the show. Uh, I'm grateful that. you uh made some time for us today. I. wanted to get into this because uh if. you're at all plugged in on social. media, you saw that uh our uh our friend.

over there, Candace, released a video. that it seems to be at least connected. or a version of or related to in some. ways the I believe it was exhibit 11. that the judge uh basically didn't allow. to be seen by the news media during the. preliminary hearing, but was shown. privately in court. It could be that. video. It could be a separate video. It. could have been a recording of a video. We're not sure exactly. We'll play the. video in just a second, but what was.

your initial reaction seeing this. footage? >> Uh, she's wrong. Again, again, she's. wrong. I I don't know how else to claim. that she's she's wrong. She's wrong. saying that uh you know, I forget what. she said. Basically, blown his shoulder. out shooting it or we should have seen. the gunshot go off. uh she's wrong. personally in my opinion stating that. this is uh you know the the lower. quality video every and that the the. rumors going around of it being a high. quality video therefore everybody is. lying. Um there's very clear signs the. video was compressed or it was a screen.

recording or a combination of both. before it ended up getting sent to her. Uh the what what did she call it? A. lateral crawl. There's no such thing as. far as I know. >> There's no such thing as a lateral. crawl. Okay, these are the experts they. bring on again. Well, guess what was. just discovered? Uh, thanks to the bull. work. Actually, uh, they discovered that. Matt had a little bit of a secret, and. I'm sure it's not the only one. It's. just one that was discovered. They. published this, and it turns out that.

Tardio pleaded no contest in Portland. to, and, this is last October, October. 2025, to felony coercion and the. misdemeanor harassment. According to. police and Tardio's alleged victim, Tardio tried to take one of his fans at. the protest back to his hotel room to. have sex with. When she refused, he. allegedly became forceful. He grabbed. the woman, carried her down an alley. before she managed to escape. Okay. Now, the crime, in case you're wondering, why. would he plead no contest to this?

Because the crime was actually caught in. 4K in full detail, ironically, by. surveillance cameras at the ICE. facility. So where he where she took. where he took her, there were cameras. and it got entirely captured on camera. And when interviewed by a Portland. detective, Tardio's explanation was that. the left-wing Antifa activists had. plotted to get him stoned. Makes entirely no sense. He's not. leftwing or we're supposed to believe he.

took he took drugs from Antifa. Obviously, that did not work, which is. why he pled no contest. And so he's a. sexual deviant. He's he's exactly the. vibe that I get from all of these. characters around Turning Point, you. just add it to the pile. And when people. it seems that whenever people are um. married to the Israel cause in a way. that just unnerves me, you find this in. their background because Israel is very. good at blackmailing people. Okay? And. we can protect you as long as you love.

Israel forever, no matter what, even if. we are committing a genocide. Which. brings me to McLemore. I am not a. McLemore fan by any stretch or. imagination. I have different politics. from McLemore, but what is happening. right now uh with McLemore having been. dropped, if you have not heard from Ed. Sheeran's tour, is much bigger than him. I will preface this by saying that uh he. has made this a big issue, but this has. been going on for decades. Actually, this was a battle that began with. Michael Jackson, with Princess Diana, uh.

with Kanye West, people who did not. understand what they were talking about. in terms of the power that sits in. Hollywood, which begins to act like a. mafia, if you uh have wrong think, if. you step outside of the bounds, if you. challenge the p the power structure. And. for a very long time, we existed under. the media spell where they could tell us. that this person was an anti-semite, was. a monster. In the case of Michael. Jackson, they could say he was a. pedophile. And we believed it because we. had trust with the mainstream media. In. fact, I'm one of the people who went.

down for saying genocide is always. wrong. Look what they did to me. So, this has been going on for a very long. time. But finally, we are reaching a. pitch in this country where people are. awake to it and they see that people are. routinely being smeared and lied about. for saying things that are true. And so. McLemore at a re a recent tour stop he. was opening for Ed Sheeran, he gave uh a. completely unproatic speech and spoke. accurately about the current genocide,

the holocaust that is taking place in. Palestine, which should sicken anybody. who has a soul. Doesn't matter what you. are, you should be sickened. You should. look at the photos and be absolutely. sickened and know that only Satan's. chosen people could do that and feel. nothing. Uh, but of course he's in. Hollywood, so him making that statement. caused a huge problem. I want you to. hear what McLemore actually said. It's. important to know what they said so that. you can destroy your relationship with. the mainstream media who's going to lie. about what he said. Take a listen to.

what he said. >> I've been trying to figure out a way to. say this all day. One of the reasons why. I wanted to come on this tour was. because I wanted to stand up here. on stages and stadiums across America. and say two words that are very near and. dear to my heart. Free Palestine. I said free Palestine.

I want those words to be loud and clear. so the people from Gaza all the way to. the occupied West Bank know that we have. not forgotten them. And this next song was inspired. by the bravery of Columbia University. students who led an encampment movement. that mobilized the entire world, open up.

hearts, myself included. So, thank you. to those students that risked their. diplomas, that risk their tuition, that. risk their scholarships, that stood up. and said no. CUAD students, Students for. Justice in Palestine and Jewish Voices. for Peace. Thank you guys to all of my. Jewish brothers and sisters. Criticism. of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being. against genocide in no way is a.

criticism of you. My message is for peace, love, for all. human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality. So I say free. Palestine. I say free Lebanon. I say. free Cuba. I say free Congo. Free Sudan. Free all people in America living in. fear over this terrorist organization. ICE.

>> None of us will be free until we are all. free. This song is called Hensall. So nothing he said whether you agree. with his statements or disagree with his. statements. There's no way you could. cage that and say that's anti-semitism. unless you are the pro-Israel lobby in. America and around the world. That's. what they get to do. They get to say and. pretend that they see something else in. your statement and pretend that they're. the one suffering a holocaust while. they're actually the ones enacting the. Holocaust. Right? They are enacting a.

holocaust in Palestine. That's what's. happening right now and it's being. allowed to happen. The halls of power in. DC are allowing it to happen because. what's what has taken place throughout. time in America. They these uh really. mongrels created Hollywood. The entire. system has been going on. If you read. Hollywood Babylon in my um book club, you know exactly what I'm talking about. They they have been doing this uh for so. long and getting away with it because. they have this much power. So this again. we are being met with a circumstance. where it is uh Goliath versus David. It.

is David versus Goliath where this. artist gets on stage and says something. and what happens? Robert Craft, who I'm. pretty sure also is a sexual deviant, right? Am I correct in stating that? Didn't he have a whole massage weird. parlor thing that happened which is a. form of sexual deviency? Whatever. He's. a billionaire. He owns the New England. Patriots, right? Um the entire Patriot. Stadium, it's his. So he mounted a peer. pressure campaign because the lobby.

lobbied and they said that's not. allowed. You cannot you cannot speak one. bad word about Israel even as we. mercilessly kill children even if it's. hunger games and we're starving them and. we have IDF soldiers that are just. plucking them off and shooting them um. as they run for food. It's hung it's. literally hunger games is what they're. playing over there and they're thieves. and they're stealing and but they have. power in Hollywood. So this is what he. does. He pretends that there's something. wrong with that statement. And what. happens is McLemore gets canceled as the.

opening act. And what does Ed Sheeran. do? He sort of comes off comes out with. this statement. And I want to be clear, I actually like Ed Sheeran as an artist. I actually ironically said to my. husband, I'd love to go to Ed Sheer and. Sharon concert. I like him because he's. not perfect. He does tend to abstain uh. from making political statements. He has. made some in the past, particularly on. the topic of Ukraine, which I disagree. with him on, but uh he lives a pretty. normal life. an unfabulous life and I. like that about him. I will say,

however, whether or not you are a person. who traditionally does not take a stance. on political issues or tries to stay out. of it, the moment has come where you. actually don't get to enjoy that luxury. anymore. You don't get to, if you have a. platform and you have more money than. you could ever spend in your lifetime, get to look the other way when an artist. is being peerressured for making a true. statement about what is happening. overseas and what our government is. paying for. Okay? And so what ended up.

happening was they canled Robert uh. Craft was successful. in Look at this old perve. Look at him, right? He was successful in having him. cancelled, calling, lobbying for others. because oh, Israel, you can't do that. Ball worshiping colony uh den of thieves. and vipers. Um you can't say anything. about them. We established Hollywood. We've got all the money. We got all the. stadiums. This is again what they what. they did to multiple people. And uh what.

happened is that thus far, three other. people associated with this tour have. now dropped out. Ed Sheeran tried to. say, "Okay, I had no control over it. It. was the stadiums that did this." Well, now his tour openers, um, three of them. have dropped out in solidarity with. McLemore. So, this is applying Max. pressure. Okay. The Goliath are the. billionaires. The Goliath are is the. Israel lobby. It's not a lot of people, but they do have a lot of power. They. have the ability to get you canled, fired, to get you debanked, um, as they.

did to Kanye. They had the ability to. get me banned from a country. I've never. committed a crime. I'm banned from. Australia. It's the wildest thing ever. I was going to do a tour on my make him. a sandwich book and talk about. motherhood, but I said genocide is. always wrong. And they took those. statements and they lobbied and I can't. go into Australia. Okay. So, look, at. the end of the day, I like this maximum. pressure campaign and I believe that Ed. Sheeran is like this is not a.

traditional role for him. Again, he's. he's never pretended to be some sort of. a superhero, but he doesn't really get. to use that as an excuse anymore. And if. Ed Sheeran decides to go through, I. think there's only three um tour stops. left. If he decides to go through with. those tour stops, then I'm calling upon. the people that would be attending the. these uh this concert to pull out. Literally, don't go to this concert. It's such a small act that you can do. And it's not about Ed Sheeran. Like I. said, I like him as an artist. I think. you should go see him on a different. day. go see him somewhere else for the.

rest of this tour. If you're listening. to this podcast, I want to use my. platform to say don't go to these last. three concerts. Okay? We have to restore. power to good people. What is happening. at the top of government? What is. happening as we've discussed and. unpacked this Charlie Kirk case? I mean, these are truly sadistic and evil people. who think they have enough money to. force us to stay quiet. There is more of. us than them. I have said this over and. over again to you guys that Charlie.

would ask me that question, Candace. Hey, what's the one thing that every um. slave colony throughout human history. had in common? Every slave plantation, every slave civilization had in common. And I said, "What?" And Charlie said, "Well, there's more. There were more. slaves than there were masters. we haven't yet clicked to that that. actually no we have the power and this. is why I I went through great pain to. explain to you guys why I loved Kanye.

West what that messaging meant to me the. willingness to be cancelled and to stand. up for something and to have the power. to let power go. I believe Charlie Kirk. had that power and it it cost him his. life at the end. Um Kanye clearly had. that power. He's now literally on top of. a world doing a tour and still getting. turned down by stadiums, but then just. going to the ones that open their doors. Let power realign. Okay, it'll be okay, Ed Sharon, if they shut you down and you. can't play their stadiums. You'll. probably get sued. This is Justin Bieber.

story, too. Why do you think Justin. Justin Bieber is finally free and happy. and he doesn't even care after he got. sued for cancing the rest of his tour? Cancel the rest of your tour, Ed. Sheeran. Do something brave. cancel the. rest of your tour and stand in. solidarity with the people, not the. power, okay? Not the corrupt power. apparatus, not with the Robert Crafts of. the world, okay? Not with the people who. can try to force you to accept a. genocide. We just need a better cast of characters.

on the stage right now. And in. Hollywood, there's been way too much. silence on this issue. Who cares if it. costs you a couple of million dollars if. you get sued? Like I said, Bieber lived. through it. And what is he doing now? He. has reminded himself that the talent was. always with him. He's now playing at. Coachella, making money, just him with. his old videos on YouTube. Before he got. locked up in all of these contracts that. were not sensible, he burned it all. figuratively to the ground. And now he's. back to just being the bees. Okay. Same.

lesson I learned. Yeah. Was it hard to. walk away from it? Was it hard when. you're sitting in a room and they're. gaslighting you and they're saying, "Don't you see how tweeting genocide is. always wrong? wrong is hurtful to Ben. Shapiro. Candace, don't you see? No, I. actually don't see the statement stand. Genocide is always wrong, no matter who. is advocating for it. So, I'm calling upon Ed Sheeran to. cancel his last shows for whatever it's. worth. Like I said, I like you. I will. support you as an artist and I I do not.

think that you are a bad person at all. I think you're in a bad situation and. you're not used to being brave. You're. not used to being the one that speaks. out. You registered to me as the person. who probably flushed red in the back of. a classroom when the teacher called on. you. I get that. It's not your. personality archetype, but you have the. ability to do something good. And if he. can't do that, then the rest of us, the. people who are going to those last three. shows stops should cancel their tickets. More power to the people. We'll be right. back after a break. All right, you guys.

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All right, top comments from yesterday's. episode. Uh, someone wrote, "Didn't. Erica immediately forgive that young man. without anyone even confessing, let. alone repenting?" Yeah, different. message coming from Alex Clark now where. I guess whoever she's sitting down with. who is saying, "No, someone must repent. first and then you can forgive them.". Uh, this next user writes, "Tyler only. limps in the video that we revealed. yesterday. As he gets closer to where. he's been told there is a camera, I. noticed that as well." It's like when he. thinks he's too far off, he's not. limping. And then as he gets closer, the. limp starts. A lot of questions.

surrounding that footage. Again, I just. share it so that we have more. information. I don't know why that. upsets Turning Point USA so much. Like, if you're really trying to just get to. the truth, why would more information. released to the public upset you? Comments in today's episode. Actually, this one was from yesterday, but I. forgot to read it. Um, this is from. Jenna. She writes, "Great interview on. Stephen A. Smith's podcast. I'm praying. for you and your family as you bring. truth to the world. Congrats on baby. number five, the exaltation of the Holy. Cross today. May his passion bring you. peace." Thank you so much. I got a lot.

of your comments about the Stephen A. Smith podcast. I mean, I just say what I. think everywhere and I do feel sort of. the the power shifting where I I I feel. stronger, but I also think we as a. society are stronger. And I'm seeing. that in the bravery of people that are. now speaking out and giving me. information. Like people were sort of. fearful in the beginning about being a. source or providing information. And it. does seem that iron sharpens iron uh. proverbial proverbally and then just. bravery inspires other people to be. brave. Ali writes, "Erica gets to go on.

a media tour with Fox, Barry Weiss, and. Glenn Beck to paint you as a liar and a. crazy person before you even said a bad. word about her, but you can't share a. meme or two. It's not like she was. minding her business at home grieving. when you went after her. It's exactly. right. The entire tour was about. debunking Candace. She had first sent. out the troops, the Alex Clark types, um. because she likes to keep her hands. clean. But when she then did that little. media tour, she was directly responding. to things that I had said on the. podcast. And again, these were not. things that I said about her. I I. abstained entirely. You are correct. The.

internet does not forget. And um yeah, I. uh I I I don't trust Erica and I don't I. don't like her as a human. I I don't. think that she loved Charlie. I don't I. I refuse to believe that. Um because no. person who loved someone would allow. everything that he was fighting in the. end to then be protected. uh to be platformed. You're his wife. That that is the ultimate betrayal. Seven Sheets writes, "You are a.

beautiful strong voice for truth and. authenticity. Not sure where else I. could go for such eloquence. I will. always support the brave. Saying. genocide is never okay. that is. controversial or will love prayers and. faith. Yes, it was ex exceedingly. controversial. I still have to laugh at. being brought into an office and like. questioned about that statement and then. just totally told that. No, that's not. what you meant. What do you mean it's. not what I meant? That's what I tweeted. No, Israel, you can't. You're talking. about Israel. How can you not see it's. anti-Semitic and how it impacts Ben's.

life? Like, what? So crazy to reflect. upon. Tony Hill writes, "Hi, Candace. watched Pierce and saw John Mappen as a. guest. He did well defending you while. also not giving too much considering he. had three people constantly talking over. him. It's nice to see real friends. having your back. We love and support. you always. Yes, I did um see and hear. that that was trending over the weekend, that interview with John Mappen and. Brandon Tatum. I sort of took a vow of. silence this weekend because I just kind. of wanted to sort of sit in the, you. know, oneyear anniversary of Charlie's.

death. And for some reason, I felt like. a lot of people were discussing me. Uh. John Mappen was with me when I uh spoke. to Brandon Tatum when I was in Iceland. just because of the time difference. So. I was literally fishing in Iceland with. John Mappen and my husband. And me and. Brandon were trying to find a time to. speak and I the only time that I could. find that could work with like his. schedule and my schedule was when I was. like, "Hey guys, I got to go back to the. car. I'm going to take a phone call.". So, they were fishing on the river and I.

went back and had a conversation with. Brandon which lasted about an hour and a. half. And I understand that people don't. understand the relationship between me. and Brandon. I can just try to put it to. you very plainly. If I suspected that. Brandon Brandon did not actually believe. what he was saying, that he was stating. things and then privately he expressed. the exact opposite of those things. I. would be calling Brendan out. Brendan is. authentic in what he is saying he. believes. He is authentic in his belief.

um about Erica. I have expressed to him. my thoughts to the contrary. It was not. a major theme of our conversation. Um. when we were in Iceland, we were talking. about actually something else. And on. the satellite side, I don't expect or. demand that my friends agree with me on. everything. I just don't. It's not who I. am. Um I expect my friends to hear me. out. I expect my friends to um you know, at least hear my perspective. and. Brandon granted all of those things. And. so, you know, we just disagree. We. disagree on Turning Point USA. We.

disagree on Erica. But we do have a lot. of history and my family adores him. And. like I said, way back when me and. Charlie were coming up, when you have. those bonds that are forged, it was. similar with Brandon. Um, and so I was. closer to Brandon than Charlie was, and. I was closer to Charlie than Brandon was. to Charlie. So, um, yeah, that's that. I'm an extremely loyal person. I. obviously see your comments and I see. your frustrations, but if I have a. frustration with Brandon, I'm going to. go directly to him. So, you learn to.

respect it about me. Like, I am just a. direct person and I don't like things. playing out publicly. I just don't think. it's necessary. Uh, Brooke writes, "Talking about Charlie Kirk and the. impact that you're making as a. freethinker really moves me. Kanye knows. it and I know his truth. What you're. doing matters. Free thinking never stop. Charlie is proud. Love from Houston.". Thank you, Brooke. Angelina writes, "I. just finished watching your anniversary. video to Charlie. I think I filled a. pool by accident. There wasn't a second. that a tear was not falling from my. face. God bless you, Candace. Thank you. that I'm just so happy that you guys can.

see who Charlie was cuz he was so great. and so funny and just so fun. I loved. spending time with him. I loved. traveling. We loved the road trips. They. were the best. I mean, we just uh you. just do so much. When you travel with. someone, you just really get to know. them. That's the only way that you can. say it. And it was a fun time that I. looked back on fondly. And I I miss our. ignorance. I wish thinking the world was. simple, simpler than it is. I wish. thinking that we could solve it through. politics. And you know, the betrayal.

that he has suffered, it weighs heavily. on me. And it's why we fight daily and. we keep him uh his name and this story. focused so that it's not something that. we just skip over. It will not be. another JFK. Cindy writes, "Coincidence. is God's way of remaining anonymous. you. are uncovering things that others miss. or don't want to admit. So, go Max. indeed. And um Zamit writes, "Candice, Charlie Kirk would have wanted the world. to know the significance of your return. to his TPUSA.".

Um I'm not sure if you mean like in that. last few days when he was telling people. that he was he was going to bring me. back, but he had made up his mind and he. was turning against Israel. It's just a. fact. It's just a fact. They can't undo. that fact. It drives them crazy. He saw. what it was. Um, he looked to the beast. and he said no to it. And that's that. Lastly, Joselyn writes that you should. totally consider dubbing dubbing your. videos in Spanish. We have a Spanish. channel, Joselyn. You're just not on the. right channel. You can head on over to. our Spanish, French, or Portuguese. channels. We have links in the.

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things for you. A very interesting story. to tell you guys tomorrow. Um Baron. reminded me, he's like, "Are you going. to cover this story?" And I was like, "You are so right. This is very weird. It's about a meeting that Erica took. shortly before Charlie's passing, which. should be brought, you know, I just say. sunlight is the best disinfectant. Also. reminding you guys, we have book club on. Friday. Bearing false witness by Rodney. Stark is the book that we have started. So, if you'd like to join the book club, now is a great time to do so. Very.

relevant as we are talking about a lot. of the trappings of faux Christianity. certainly, which is taking place today. I don't think anybody watches Alex Clark. and goes, "Hm, that's a well-rounded. Christian girl who's definitely telling. me that I um the truth about uh what I. should be following, what I should be. pursuing." How wild to say it's a form. ofnosticism to not believe the CIA. Like, it's like the FBI. No, you. shouldn't seek hidden knowledge. You. shouldn't seek the Epstein files. That's. hidden knowledge. That's a form.

ofnosticism. These people are crazy. Turning Point is. ghetto. TPUSA is ghetto now. I don't tell you. guys. It's just a fact. I'll see you. guys tomorrow.