Zooey Deschanel: Relationships, RomComs, & the Holiday Season (Full Episode)

What is up, daddy gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper with Call. Her Daddy. >> Zoe Des Chanel, welcome to Caller Daddy. >> Oh my god. Thank you so much for having. me. I feel like you're the perfect. person to be wearing this with. I I. think that's right. >> I think I think [laughter] I was No, literally before you came in, I was. like, I hope she just like sees the. vision. like [laughter] what is this. person doing? Um, happy holidays. How.

are you doing? >> I'm good. Is that comfortable by the. way? >> It's actually weirdly very comfortable. Um, and I didn't expect to wear this. today. I got a sweater and jeans on, but. then I just put this on for some social. ideas and then I was like, you know. what? Maybe this will get us in the. mood. >> Yeah. I Yeah, I'm I'm in the mood. >> You're feeling festive. >> And you're like And we're like going to. ride that mood like the whole time. >> We're We're riding it. We're going to go. through the holidays together. Yes. Okay. Let's talk about the holidays. We're kind of in the middle of it right. now. Do you have any good plans this.

year? >> Um, like I'm such a traditionalist. Like. I'm very much like I love like hanging. out with family. I like singing. Christmas carols. I like um Yeah. I I'm. We're very festive. We we decorate like. big. We go big with the decorations. >> Can you talk to me about decorations. though? Because so I don't have kids yet. and I've been trying to convince my. husband like we need to like gear up, right? So, I've been like trying to buy. stuff for our house that so when we do. have kids one day, it's like a winter.

wonderland. And he's like, "Okay, like I. I see the vision sort of, but I feel. like I'm only going half in." So, I. think I need to if you're going to do. it, you got to go all in. Like, do you. do every room? Do you do some rooms? >> We do a lot of rooms. But, you know. what? It does build up over the years. And then you do have to like It's like. you do have to edit like because you we. have I'm really into Christmas and then. Jonathan's really into Christmas. So, it's like it's like I was the one in my. family growing up. My dad comes from.

like a Quaker background and if you know. anything about that, they're very simple. and plain and you don't want to show. off. And so, like he liked Christmas. trees with no decorations. And I was. like, I love decorations. I want. everything decorated like over the top. And so, I remember coming home like from. college for Christmas and no one had. bought a tree and there was like no. decorations. And I went out and I got. like a tree and all these decorations. I. decorated the whole house. So that's me. And then Jonathan's like probably more. even more.

>> love. >> And then we have these um wonderful guys. from Glitterville, which is like an. awesome place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where they they make all these Christmas. decorations. They come and decorate our. house. So we're kind of spoiled. >> One day I'm going to be calling them. >> Yeah, you'll call them. I'll give you. their. >> Is your tree though, does it have like. really nice fancy ornaments or do you do. a couple where it's like your kids made. it or you made it one year? >> That's a great great question. Okay, so.

>> yeah. >> Um so downstairs in our like main areas, we have two trees and they're kind of. themed. Um they're a little different. every year. The one in the like. living room is last year was like. champagne themed. This year it's a. little more like gingerbready. >> Love. >> Um and then themes. >> Yeah, the themes are fun. And there's. like lots of snow this year. Like lots. of fake snow. And then um and then in. the like family room, the big big tree.

is very sparkly and colorful and like. tinsel and stuff like that. But then. upstairs in the kids playroom, we put. two trees, one for each kid, and they. can decorate it however they want and. they can put all their homemade. ornaments. And. >> that's. now when are we putting up the tree? Cuz. this is also another point of contention. in my house. >> When are you doing it? >> Sometimes September after Halloween. [laughter].

>> Sometimes it happens like like last. year. I think somehow it was right after. Halloween because that's just how it. worked out. This year, um, we put up the. trees right before Thanksgiving. >> See, I'm like I to Well, my husband's. also Jewish, but like he fully supports. me in my um Christmas extravaganza. >> And sure, it's like Chrisa, but like. it's Christmas, you know, for the. decorations. And so Matt is always like, "It can't be September 1st, Alex." And. I'm like, "The minute it hits fall, we. got to go." So now we've compromised and.

we did it right before Thanksgiving, which I feel like is good. >> I think it's great cuz you just you want. as long with that tree as possible. And. the other thing you can do in a, you. know, a a mixed like faith uh house. >> is you do the the Christmas tree with. the Hanukkah colored ornaments. >> Zoe, I'm going to go home tonight and. I'm [laughter] about to rock his world. and be like, I have compromised. He's. going to be like, oh my god. Honestly, that's a good idea. >> Yeah. Um, do you host? Um, yes. So, yeah, we always like to do like.

Christmas Eve dinner and stuff like that. for the family. >> Have you ever had any hosting disasters? Um, we did have a Christmas party. [laughter]. a few years ago and the like our. landscapers who are amazing brought in. some mulch to like um um to make. everything look really fresh but. accidentally had like fertilizer in it. which smells [laughter] no. >> but but it was completely honest mistake. but I was just like putting like.

cinnamon sticks like trying to burn them. every everyone's like Zoe your house. smells so. Well, we we're like, um, it's just. fresh. It's just fresh. >> Oh, okay. Got it. But you're hosting. more than you're going to places. >> We like to host. We like to go places. We We We're social. We're social pe. We're social people. >> Talk to me about holiday movie. What is. one holiday movie you have to watch. every single year? >> Die Hard. >> Wait, [laughter]. Zoe. What? Wait, wait, what?

>> Die Hard is a great Christmas. Me, mom. Like, so Elf is mine. I love El. >> Have you rewatched it? >> But since I'm in it, I'm not like It's. funny because my kids were a little. resistant to they're they're a little. resistant to watching me. They're not as. resistant to watching like if there's. something where I'm a voice like trolls. freely watching that. Um but like if I'm. in something they're a little like is. that mommy or is that like Yeah. >> Wait, how old are they now?

>> They're they're eight and 10. Just this. year, my daughter said she wants to. watch it with her friends. Elf. >> Yeah. >> So, I was excited. >> So, you're probably about to become like. the coolest mom. Slowly, you're about to. be like, "Oh, it's about to turn for. you.". >> Maybe. I don't know. I mean, I don't. know. >> One of the all-time greats. >> Or they'll hate it and hate me, >> right? Be like, "Mom, that was so. embarrassing. >> Such a dumb. I'm so embarrassed.". >> Okay. Wait. So, you were 21 years old. when you filmed Elf. Is it true that you. actually were not going to first be. booked for this role and then so what.

happened? Um they had offered it when I. met with um John. um. the Favro the director um I walked in. and he was like oh you don't need to. read we just offered it to Katie Holmes. and I was like oh okay cool and he's. like we'll sit down and talk for a. minute and I was like okay so what was. great about that was like I wasn't. nervous I didn't like have to like you. know it's like Like when you're an.

actor, you're like first starting and. you're like auditioning, you get nervous. and you're like psyching yourself up for. the re, you know, I wasn't nervous at. all cuz I was like, well, >> I'm not getting the part. >> I'm not getting the part. So, it was it. was kind of great cuz I was not nervous. And then when she she had some. scheduling conflict and then they were. like, who should we have? And um I think. the character. was kind of meant to be like worked. around whoever played her and they knew.

I sang because I had a cabaret act where. I do like um like jazz standards and. stuff and so that kind of worked out. with the the character. Yeah. And at the. time, do you think you all knew how big. it was going to be because of Will or. did did it still not really Will wasn't. like he he was just start I mean he was. like had done. >> um old school. >> Yeah, I guess you're right. It was still. on the rise. He hadn't done Step. Brothers. >> Yeah, he had done Step Brothers. Like he.

hadn't done all of his like huge huge. You didn't even know though it was going. to be as big as it was. Well, I when I. read it, I was like. I remember like giggling out loud and I. was like really enjoying myself and I. was like that must be a good sign. And. then I' I've taken that as like my. litmus test. Like ever since then I was. like you know like almost every time I. like laugh out loud while reading a. script cuz if you laugh out loud while. reading a script then you're probably. going to laugh like even harder when you.

see someone doing it. You had to have your hair be blonde. That wasn't a wig, was it? >> No, I I that was because I I was young. and just starting out and trying to get. jobs and there was a a movie about a pop. star that was like floating around and. the producer really wanted me for it and. he was like, "Let's do a screen test.". And they like dyed my hair blonde, put. like extensions in it and all this. stuff. And we did this like screen test. The movie never ended up happening, but. I had this blonde hair for like a little.

bit and I still hadn't dyed it back. brown. because I was like 21. I didn't have. like that much money to like go and do. my hair all the time. So, I was kind of. like waiting. I'm like, "It'll grow out. a little bit." And then once I got the. part, I was like, "Well, can I dye my. hair back brown?" And they were like, "No, um, you. have to have the same hair you had when. you came in." And I'm not sure where. that came from, but that's what I was. told. So then I had to like maintain. this, which takes like eight. Like if.

you know black hair, my hair's almost. black. To dye your hair blonde, girl, that's like the biggest [laughter]. undertaking ever. Like Yeah. To to strip. really dark hair. You would never do it. again, would you? >> I I would wear a wig because it's not. great for your hair. like my hair. [laughter]. I will say that like my hair is like. really stiff in the movie because it was. like it was bleached and then it was. highlighted you know and and then I. remember I had extensions and I of.

course I was like young and dumb and I. remember they glued the extensions in. I. couldn't get them out and I was like. trying to pull them and I like ripped my. hair. I had like short pieces like that. long. >> I do remember cuz I just watched it this. um this past year. >> Her hair does not move. It's literally. perfectly curled up and it just like. stays right there. >> There's a reason for that. [laughter]. >> Good to know. >> It's called chemical processing. >> Perfect. Um, okay. Can you tell us cuz. obviously because it's holiday season. and we're going to go through a lot of. your movies, but what was your first. impression of Will Frell because.

obviously that movie was so iconic. >> He's like the nicest human being. Like. anyone who's worked with him, like. there's no bad experiences with him. He's so nice. He's nice to everybody. He's so fun. He's like game for. anything. And I think the thing about. Will is like like he's super playful and. fun and open and just like a nice. person. And I think that kind of like. informs who he is as an actor because. he's like he's like so willing to play, you know? No. Yeah. I like kind of. forgot how like physical comedy he was.

in that movie as I was re-watching it. I'm like, "Oh my god, there were so many. moments where you're like, whoa, what. are his legs doing?" And all the things. like it's so funny. Um, do you have any. like if you can remember like your. favorite scene to film together in that. movie? >> Oh my gosh. Um, I like doing all the stuff in the. department store cuz there's like so. much like kind of farical energy to. that. It's like, you know, and um and. like fun characters like when he thinks.

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business today. >> Both of your parents worked in. Hollywood, right? >> Your mom was an actress, your dad was a. cinematographer. Yeah. Um, what was it. like growing up in a house with such. creative artsy energy? >> Oh, that's a good question. Um, so, um, my parents are like it's like they're. not like my my mom was like a working. actress, like not famous or anything, but she like she she did really well and. she's really smart and great. And um and. then my dad my dad's like an artist, you.

know, like he he's just like everything. like he's he loves taking pictures. Like. even still like we were in Rome this. summer like all of us and like we'd have. to go out at like they'd go out every. day at 5 in the morning and it's like to. find the light for the just. to take pictures. Yeah. just like he's. taking pictures of buildings and he's. taking pictures of my mom and me and. it's everything is always like. >> it's just like he just sees the world in.

this like you know incredible way. Um. but yeah, so they're both really. creative artistic people and have like. amazing taste. So, I do remember like. growing up and being like like um like. if I liked a movie that was kind of. silly, I was like don't say anything cuz. [laughter]. >> they have like such good taste, you. know? >> Oh, interesting. >> Like I liked I remember liking like. silly sitcoms and stuff like that being. like I'm not saying anything. >> cuz he's like that's no no let me show.

you something. movie. Oh, >> which I love too, but like I remember. this sense of being like ah like. >> wait there's like a high standard. >> Their standards were so high that I. remember being like yeah like too crazy. >> Yes. Um I really related because I saw. you said in an interview that seventh. grade was the worst year of your life. which then I was like [clears throat] is. that just like all of a experience cuz. seventh grade was literally the worst. year of my life. I think it's like when.

you're that age, there's a coming of age. where everyone's starting to maybe like. actually look at boys and girls and like. maybe. >> start to be more aware of the way. everyone looks and the differences and. sexuality and all these things. And like. I just was like a very awkward. >> very awkward like lanky acne braces kid. Um, and I just didn't I just didn't fit.

in the way that my friends were. And so. I experienced just like a lot of. bullying because kids are horrible. And. at that age, if you're not. >> with the crowd and you are, you know, conforming to what everyone feels like. is the normal standard. Then you just. stick out like a sore thumb and then. everyone like puts you down for it. >> Yeah. >> So I experienced that and then when I. read that I was like seventh grade, seventh grade is the worst. >> What happened in seventh grade for you? Um, I was similarly awkward but. different. I was like kind of chubby and.

um, not that there's anything wrong with. that. I It was like would have been fine. if I hadn't been ridiculed for that. And. just like an awkward person. [laughter]. I hadn't quite like figured out my. personality yet. and like all the. friends that I had been friends with. kind of like splintered off into other. groups and changed and were different. and like not not the same support. situation and then you have like all. your hormones and everything and but. what was funny about seventh grade is I. I joined a swim team and oh well.

separately I had like I had like this. one girl who like bullied me like really. bad who like spit in my face like was. just awful. It was like those things she. I remember her going like. >> you're trying to act like you're thin. [laughter]. Which now I'm like do you like I'm like. this was like the mid9s. I'm like now. what? Nobody would say that. I don't. think. But like I remember her saying. that to me and being like I don't I was.

like do am I trying to act like I'm. thin? I don't think so. I think I'm just. acting like myself. [laughter]. >> Can you imagine like in that context? You're like, how does that kid and. what's going on at that kid's house that. they feel comfortable to speak that way. to another person? And then you're. sitting there being like and I was like, uh, I don't think so. And I'm also like. I I also was like, why are you coming. after me? I was like I like was trying. to hide from her all the time. But yeah. Um, but I joined the swim team and and I.

like lost about 30 lbs over the year and. then I grew 6 in over the summer. And so. when I came back I had like a new lease. on life cuz eighth grade everyone was. like are you the same person? You look. really different. So it was kind of like. um fortunate that like my growth spurt. happened in this like weird. >> that is like literally like a movie like. you walk in you're like I'm back [ __ ]. I was like [laughter] I also was like. not even aware cuz I went to summer camp. and I came back and then everyone was.

like you look totally different. >> Do you feel like anything that you went. through has informed as a mother like. how you're talking with your kids just. like making sure they're good in school. and everything cuz when you experience. that I have like a soft spot. I don't. even have kids yet. And I'm like, "Oh my. god, I'm going to have to like make sure. that I'm going in their rooms and. talking with them and making sure that. they're okay and how they're being. treated because I didn't tell my. parents." Did you share it with your. parents that you were getting. >> bullied? I I shared it with my parents.

Yeah. >> Um Yeah. So, one of the things like I. think we can't always control how other. people act toward them, but we can we. can help them give them tools like on. how to re react when people do something. that's not very nice and also help them. be the kindest people they can be, you. know? Do you feel like anything from. your childhood just in terms of like. those light not even light but just like. insecurities. um do you still feel like any of that.

shows up today in your day-to-day life? I mean of course it's like in there but. like it's like. >> you and in in a good way. Like I I like. all those things that like anytime you. like go through something difficult it. helps like you become stronger. But I. think I've made a real effort to never. like show any like I I have a daughter. and a son and I don't want them to ever. think like, "Oh, mommy's insecure or you. know like my my my mom doesn't like you.

know this or you know I always want them. to think like I'm happy with myself and. like cuz they get their self-esteem from. their parents you know." So, so yeah, it's important to me to like like show. up with confidence and I think about. like Hollywood is such an extreme uh for. especially for women on just like. focusing on looks or weight or aging or. all the things like what has your. experience been as a woman in this. industry dealing with if anything like. criticism over your appearance?

>> Um, you know, it's funny. I I think it's. like I think you can re like you can let. it roll off you and it doesn't really. affect you if you as long as you. let it like not affect you. Um it's it's. when you like internalize it too much. Um or you start to be like, oh, you. know, and you let those sort of negative. things like fester and you know, but but. I I think when you kind of like, you.

know, let it roll off you and also just. see that like those things they're they. they don't really matter. You know what. I mean? Like a lot of people talk about. them like they do, but they don't. actually they don't when it comes down. to it, that's not what's important. And. so, you know, I I definitely think that. being, you know, having a strong sense of self. beyond that is really important. >> I mean, that's a beautiful message, too, because I I agree with you. It's like. you can only.

>> control like you said earlier of like. what your response is going to be to. things. And I think especially if you're. we're never going to not get it as. women. So at some point it can become in. a good way you can have autonomy over. your life to be like I'm so much more. interesting than the way I look and and. my weight and my age and all those. things and so if you can focus more on. those then I think you're going to live. a healthier and happier life. understandably it's so hard in. >> people don't see it really like it's. like then they move past it you know.

there it's like you really see when if. somebody's really struggling with that. and they're really internalizing it. I. think um yeah, it's such a tricky thing. I mean, too, I I think my identity was. never super wrapped up in my appearance. I I I always made an effort to be like. is like more about what I'm presenting. is more about my style and like like. artistic and creative expressions versus.

oh, like I'm so just naturally perfect. Do you know what I It's like all those. things are so ephemeral and you know. they change and um and they're you know. they're subjective and so I think. [gasps]. I think yeah not not having my identity. so wrapped up in like what I looked like. when I was 25 is really great. >> [laughter]. >> Well, and I love that because I think. there's a lot of young women that listen.

to this show and I think it's nice. hearing that because I do feel that from. you. Like when I think about Zoe Des. Chanel, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, your. style and like your energy, I think, is. so it reads so much in a movie or in, you know, interviews you've done or. print or whatever you do. Like, you have. such a specific sense of style and a. unique individuality that I really. respect." And I think especially with. social media and as more kids grow up. with it, I think trends can be very.

all-encompassing where people are almost. like copying each other cuz they think. like this will make me cool or this will. make me cool. And what's actually so. much cooler is being like you're this. like unique individual that people kind. of can't copy or want to copy you. because you're so true to yourself. >> Start the trends. Don't follow them. >> Yes. Yes. Um can we talk about your. career? Yeah. >> Okay. So, you start doing auditions at. 16 years old. Did you have any like. memorable disaster auditions where you. were like, >> "How did that just happen to me?".

>> Yeah. I I mean, so so many. It was like. a whole year. of like terrible auditions. I remember. too preparing. There was like one where. I was reading for like some huge. director was like I want to say it was. like Christopher Nolan or something and. I was like and they called me in and I. had prepared for days. But then when I. got there I just completely like just. got so nervous. I forgot everything. And.

I was like, and then the casting. director was like called my [laughter]. called my agents and was like, well, she. was super unprepared. And I was like, no, no, no. >> I just got really nervous. >> So nervous that I just like screwed up. so bad. I I have like um a lot of. learning differences. And I had grew up. like bad ADHD in a time when not a lot. of girls were diagnosed with it. It was. like and I had like the combined type. which means I had like hyperactivity and.

inattentiveness so a lot of stuff going. on. So like I sometimes have to spend a. little more time learning things and. preparing um which I know well but. that's why it took me and then once I. know how to prep I know how to prep but. I think that was like it was still in. this like exploratory phase where I'm. like I did spend a long time preparing. but it didn't really work. Yeah, I. luckily have my my mom is a great actor. and she like when I was growing up like.

would like coach me like help me um prep. for audition. So that was like hugely. helpful. But I feel like the um. conversation around Yes. like so many. especially young women were never like. diagnosed at certain ages where you're. like what like whether you're feeling. like you're like failing in school or. you're like feeling. >> embarrassed. She's just not smart. >> Yes. And it's like no that's not it. or whatever it did cuz I know you went. to Western.

because you got a movie. Were you kind. of happy to get away from school because. you didn't feel like maybe that was your. place or did you kind of was it hard. decision for you to leave college? It. was hard. And I will say this, so in. elementary school, it was a real. struggle. But but I I'm I'm a pretty I'm. a pretty like nerdy person, very love. studying. Um and so by the time I was in. high school, I was like thriving in. school. So it was just kind of coming up.

with the right strategies for me. And. and back then, like they didn't really. like readily medicate people. I was not. medicated. Um, and like it was just. coming up. I It was just more realizing. I need more time. So if some one person. takes like, you know, an hour to study, it might take me like two hours cuz I. have to like leave in space to like like. daydream and like, you know, but then I. might come up with something like really. interesting that's different and and so. I think it's just it was kind of a.

matter of like accepting how I was and. and then so yeah, I I I thrived in high. school. I got really good grades and and. was like graduated with honors and and. then went to Northwestern and I loved. it. But it was just it was what I. realized was like my my focus had always. been on being an actor. So, I I I made a. risky decision which was sort of. [laughter]. I had I put a storage locker like on. hold for my stuff like from my dorm room.

cuz I'd gone a movie and I was going. home and I was like going to go back and. I was like I'll put all my stuff in. there and then I got there and they. didn't have the reservation and I was. like that's it. I was like a sign. I was. like, "That's a sign." I had gotten I. was supposed to do a photo shoot for. like British Vogue or something and. they'd given me money to fly home. and it was like in travel restricts or. something. I remember. And I was like, "Well, I'll take like I my flight wasn't.

quite that amount." They'd given me just. like a budget and then I was like, "Okay, I'll just use the rest of that. money to ship my stuff home." [laughter]. >> And you never went back. >> And I never went back. Did your family. support you? Like did you have any. hesitations of leaving college? My. parents were really supportive. They. like because they both got to do this. like you know these creative things and. got that like you do what you got to do. and and there was still a part of me. that's like I love school and I want to. go back to school sometime. I just don't. know what I want to study but I I love.

school. Um but but my parents were. supportive. It was more like when I'd. run into like my parents' friends like. at the grocery store. They'd be like go. back right? They're like, "Sweetie, what. are you doing with your life? Sweetie, what are you doing with your life?" And. I had this I made this decision where I. was like, "Well, I don't want to brag, so I don't want to tell anyone that I. got a movie and that's why I left. school. So, I'm just going to be like, I. quit.". >> And they just thought it was like The. Biggest Loser. Like, I mean, for like a. year until this film came out. [laughter]. >> I was just like, >> Zoe like.

really went off the rails. >> I feel like that speaks a lot though to. your character and who you are where you. don't care what people think. The fact. that you were in the grocery store being. like, "Yeah, I just quit. I'm a loser. I'm doing nothing with my life.". Meanwhile, you're like, "It was minus. one year till you find out.". >> It was fun. >> to see like how judgmental people are. when they think. >> Is it crazy? >> It is crazy. It is. And I hope that now. there is more acceptance around non just. like traditional linear paths of like.

you go to school then you do this, then. you do this and you get the job and it's. 9 to5 and you do this. Like there's just. so much more I think out there for. people that don't want that. I'm not. saying there's a problem with the. traditional path, but I do think it's. cool to see how people have actually. been now becoming more open to like a. lot of kids aren't supposed to go down. the path that maybe their parents did. and that's okay. And some kids like need. a gap year like they have to travel or. they have to see the world a little bit. or they need like time to like cuz. sometimes high school is like a lot of.

pressure. I mean I know I was like. studying all the time like doing theater. too but like I mean I was just I was. just like I felt like a lot of pressure. academically and you know to and I. didn't really do a lot of social stuff. like that's how like and so like I was. like and then when I went to college I. was like whoa like cuz it's a lot. there's a lot going on. >> It's a good point. It's like we feel. like we just have to do these things, but then when you check in, it's like.

there are so many kids in high school. that are like, I'm about to burn out. Like, I can't keep doing this. And being. in tune as a parent hopefully to be. like, what does this child need compared. to my other child or whatever. >> That's the thing that's cool about. having kids is you see like when they. grow up and they're like mine are like. two years apart and um or a little less. than that. So, so they're pretty close. in age. So I could see like what's. developmental and like what you know. whatever they walk between this age and. this age and those types of things and.

then like what's their personality and. you'll see glimmers of their personality. when they are like newborns. That's. what's amazing. There's like stuff. that's stays with them. >> Yeah. >> I love that so much. Interesting. >> Um what do you think was your breakout. role? >> That's a good question. I'll have like versions of I mean I. would say like Elf was probably it. because it that was like that was like. the first movie that I did that was like.

big you know like I did Almost Famous. and that was like I got a lot of like um. really nice kind of um. notices and people. really liked that film. But it um but. Elf was kind of like on this felt like. more global or something and and I was a. bigger part. So yes. Um another. >> movie that people obviously fell in love. with you in was from 500 Days of Summer.

I mean obviously I feel like a lot of. people are like that is like my favorite. coming of age movie. A lot of people. love it. you ended up always kind of. like defending your character Summer. against accusations that she was the. villain of that story, which is so. crazy. And I think hopefully now people. would look back and be like, "What?" But. at the time it really felt like people. were like, "She's the problem. Like this. was messed up." What do you think people. got wrong about her? >> Well, I mean, I think I think a lot of.

things about that. I I I um I I think. it's changed a lot. like the the point. of view about that movie. Um I I think I. was I was really shocked actually when. it came out because we all kind of had. the um the point of view that this was. kind of like they're a little bit. starcrossed like she's in one place, he's in another and like he it's all. from his point of view and and you kind. of see the tragedy of the fact that he.

wants more and she sees this as. something passing and isn't ready for. this yet. Um, and then when it came out, all of a sudden I especially wasn't so. much girls, but it was guys, they'd be. like, "I [ __ ] hate you, Summer." I. would be like, "Whoa, wait a second." I. I was like I was shocked. I was like, "Wait, she's very clear with him from. the beginning." Like, I'm like, "What. more do you want from her?" So, so, so. she has to do what he wants like no. matter what. I was just I was just.

really surprised that that was the. takeaway. And and I understand. that sometimes people don't know what to. do with their emotions and that probably. they just felt like they were really. like shipping this couple. They're like. we want them to be together but but she. said like I don't want anything. I know. That's what's so crazy. I also just feel. like maybe we are now more progressive. as a society. So like especially women.

are like this is you couldn't be more. clear. You're like I want to keep things. casual and then he keeps seeing the. girl. So it's like okay if you're down. with this I remember after that movie. the term manic pixie dream girl. >> became just like this whole. conversation. And to anyone maybe who's. like my younger audience that isn't. familiar with that term, can you explain. what mimic pixie dream girl means? >> It's the Okay. Um, it's the term.

everyone seemed to use to describe like. any female in a movie that was left of. center or different. Um, that wasn't. just like the hot girl. Um, like someone. that had thoughts in her head, had. opinions, was a little different. Um I. know the first I I was I went on a deep. dive because about that because I. remember being like wait every time I. would be in something I would be reduced. to this and I I it was something a.

journalist used to describe Katie Holmes. in Pieces of April which was like a um. an indie movie that went to Sundance. like in the early 2000s and then since. then they just used and like then they. used it to describe like Natalie Portman. and Garden State and like pretty much. like and then somehow every character I. ever played and I'm like. I don't think all these characters are. the same. Um, and I mean.

it just felt to be honest a bit like. let's come up with a new thing and and. let's be a little more creative because. it started to also feel like an insult. or something like it was used as in this. that that you're that the manic pixie. dream girl this was a way to make this. character that was meant to be highly. you know like three-dimensional trying. to make it onedimensional and I was No, actually the point is to make a. character three-dimensional,

not onedimensional. So, um, yeah, I was. always a little bit like, look, you have. to take everything in stride and realize. that people call you stuff like all the. time and you have to have a thick skin. about it and it's fine, whatever. If. people want to call me that, cool. But. in my opinion, I think it's lazy to keep. using it. [laughter]. >> I agree. I agree. No, it's also crazy. because like you come up with these. tropes and these names that the media.

obviously more centered towards women on. these because I I agree. It's like if. it's not just like. >> the bombshell like Bond girl, then it's. like where does where does the woman. fit? >> What to do with her? >> Yeah. And it's like oh my god, she's. like multi-dimensional. What a concept. Meanwhile, you're watching like all. these men. >> She reads books. What do I do? >> Well, she has glasses on and like it's. like what? Like is like Belle from. Beauty and the Beast a manic pixie dream. girl? That's my my question. >> Such a good point. >> Is Tiana a manic pixie dream girl? She's.

like an entrepreneur. Are we manic pixie. dream girls? Do we move like Disney. princesses into the manic pixie dream. girl era? [laughter] It's such a good. point. It's like if that is what they're. basically saying, then I guess the goal. should be to strive to be a man. You. should want to be a manic pixie dream. girl cuz you're clearly like getting. people so riled up that you're not. emotional about. I'm like, why are you. so emotional about this manic pixie. dream girl thing? >> I'm very upset, >> right? I'm glad though. It's like it's. getting you going. It's making you. think. I'm happy my art is like touching.

you in that way. That's [laughter] a. good way to look at it. Um, okay. Another one of your most beloved. characters was Jess from New Girl, obviously. >> How do you remember feeling when you. first read that script? I absolutely. loved that pilot script. Like I was, again, I remember where I was when I. read it cuz I was in the um. the Virgin Atlantic lounge in London.

And um the script was called Chicks and. Dicks. That was [laughter] And I was. like, "Do I want to read this?" Like I. was like, "What?". >> You're like, "Whoa.". >> I was like, "Chicks and Dicks?" Like, "What is this about?" And then um and. then everyone was like, "No, no, it's. really good." And then I read it and I. was like I was sitting there and I was. like like laughing out loud and I was. like, "Well, that's a great sign." Wow. There you go. Back to Elf. Back to Elf. So, I know that eventually the writer.

started to draw inspiration from you as. an actual like person and put it into. the show a little bit. What parts of. yourself did you see reflected in this. character? >> I would say um. all of us had like when you're on a show. that goes a long time, they like kind of. have to do certain things, especially. like a sitcom. I think they they'll take. certain parts of your personality.

because they know they can kind of take. advantage of those things, you know what. I mean? Or they get how you they get. your rhythm and how you talk and like. how you're going to say things. So, it's. like you'd always have like instances. where they would write things that come. out of your mouth like perfectly by. season, you know, like probably by the. end of season one. And so getting those. things like how to you know so they they. start to get you and then like for Jess. like you know it's like I like crafting. and stuff like that like there would be.

things where you know there was an. episode that I felt like was great cuz. we were dealing with this a lot where. people were kind of criticizing the Jess. character and me for being like feminine. in a way that was maybe to some people. pay or something like as if I was as if. I like crafting because I think it like. makes me like a trad wife or something. like No, I like it cuz it's fun and. creative and maybe it's relaxing. Um, and there was a great episode that Julie.

and Julia Jess and Julia. Jess and. Julia, sorry. There's a movie called. Julia. >> Yeah, Julia [clears throat] and Julia. Yeah, >> that's Yeah, Jess and Julia. Um, and. it's just this character Julia is. basically a lawyer and she doesn't like. Jess because Jess is like likes all. these kind of feminine things and um it. was kind of written as a a little bit of. a you know um reaction to a lot of this.

There was a little bit of girl on girl. hate, you know, where it's like you're. different from me so I'm not going to. like you. Like it's like. why? Why? Like who cares? [laughter]. Like there's not one way a woman should. be, you know? And like we all have. masculine and feminine traits and they. come out in different ways. And I think. I think now it's a little different, but. that was that was a little while ago. And I I love the way they reacted to. that thing, you know? Trust me, I think.

it is really um unfortunate because I do. think the girl thing is still happening. Like I see it online every day almost. where women are tearing other women down. because it's like oh like she's trying. to be like this or she's trying to be. like this and it's like. >> guys. now like the men aren't even a part of. the conversation anymore. It's literally. just all these women going at each other. and it's like let's all just like let. each other be. >> and just. >> accept that you made to like crafting.

and that's okay and that doesn't mean. you're being tryh hard to appeal to the. male gays. Like what if you literally. just like doing it? Yeah. No, it it's. really interesting. I I I I was pretty. fascinated like in a similar way to the. 500 days of summer thing. [laughter] It. is crazy how sometimes the shows I'm. sure you are on then they spark a larger. conversation and you're kind of like. this vessel to people starting to look. and be like, "Oh, wow. We need to now. make a social commentary again in. another episode." And then there you. guys did it. So, it's kind of cool. It.

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>> Zoe, what was your take? Um, my take was. actually I I kind of wished, this was. just my own personal feeling because I I. like leaving things a little unfinished. because I like people to decide like. what they think happened and it's. sometimes unsatisfying for people and I. know it's not like really a network TV. type um ending, but I thought we should. like end it before people knew whether. it happened or not. >> So in their heads they can come up with.

what it was. Like the graduate ending is. like my favorite ending cuz you're like, "Okay, he went, he got her out. She's. not getting married to this other guy. She ran. She's with him, but do we know. if they're going to?" Then Hello. Darkness, my old friend. We have no. clue. >> Starts. I'm like, Sound of Silence. starts playing. I'm like, "What's. happening?" And then they have this like. moment of like, "We don't know." And I. like that. >> Okay, that's interesting. I like that. you're like, "Maybe. >> let them decide. I'd rather let the. people let the people argue. Let the.

people I love that. Okay. I heard that. you don't like to call it [ __ ] Mary. kill. You prefer to say Mary Berry one. night stand. >> Yes. >> So, >> okay. >> Mary Berry one night stand. Nick. >> Okay. >> Schmidt Winston. >> Um, great question. [laughter]. >> I don't I don't want to be like mean cuz. I love these people. >> No, no, no. The worry is like just like. put them to the side. We're not actually. burying them. >> Okay. I think you have to um do it from. the perspective of Jess. I think Jess.

would say well okay let's just say yeah. and not the actors cuz I don't want to. yeah the characters the characters let's. say Mary Winston. >> one night see Nick and I'm sorry we have. to bury Schmidt because he does a lot of. bad [laughter]. >> he does a lot of bad stuff love okay you. had both of your kids while filming the. show. >> did you have any hesitations about. starting a family during a really busy. time in in your career? That's a really.

great question. Um, it was hard. I mean, um, I remember being like before I could. tell anyone I was pregnant, like cuz. when you're like less than 12 weeks. pregnant, you're not not supposed to. tell, but I remember being like like 11. weeks pregnant or something and you're. not supposed to drink coffee. like. you're not like you're like one cup of. coffee and like I'm used to working like. really really long hours like people.

don't realize like in TV you work like. in films like some you work like oh 16. hour days like normal so I and nights. and like crazy and I remember working a. night and it was like a really long day. [gasps]. >> [clears throat]. >> um and I couldn't drink coffee and I was. just drinking like orange juice like. non-stop and just being like this is. crazying. do you want a coffee? And you're like, >> and I'd be like, no, thank you. I just. I'm loving this juice. [laughter] It's. like they're like, we've never seen you.

drink orange juice before. I'm like, but. I'm loving it now. >> Oh my [laughter] god. >> It's like the only way I could keep away. was like sugar. Like, >> okay, so you at first were like, "Okay, I'm trying to hide it." And then once. you did you tell your cast first? Did. you announce it to the world? Like, how. did you go about that? Yeah, I told them. like a little bit before I announced it. and then like they kind of had to write. it in. So yeah, I I told them and and. then they or not write it in. They had. to figure out whether they want to write.

it in or hide it, which they chose to. hide it both times. I did think it would. have been cool to have written it in. because that would have been a cool. story line, I think. But I know there. were a lot of great minds thinking on it. and they decided not to. when I was just. like carrying around laundry baskets. like for whole seasons. >> constantly holding things planters. [laughter]. >> What do you think is the biggest. challenge that you've faced balancing. motherhood and career? Ooh, that's a. that's another great question. Okay, so.

um. I like really want to be a good mom and. I always like want to show up for them. like whenever I can. Um, but yeah, I. mean I've like. I realize that so whenever I'm off work, I just show up for like everything. Like. I'm there picking them up. I'm dropping. them off. Like I'm crafting in the, you. know, classroom. I'm taking them to. playdates. Like I'm going and sitting. and waiting for them outside their, you.

know, their dance classes and all the. things. And and then when I'm working, I. just try as much like I'm like, okay, now it gets to like, okay, they they get. that, you know, I have to work. And now. I show, you know, it's like then it's. like the school play. Like there are. certain things where it's like you got. to be there in as much as you can. I get. sometimes you can't, but like show try. to get there for like whatever the big. game or the school play or like those. big things because those are the things.

they remember. >> a lot. That's what I feel like a lot of. women um especially in a beautiful way. now that so many more women are working. Yeah. I think that there's the the fear. that a lot of women also talk about the. reality of mom guilt. >> and being like oh my god I'm here but I. need to I also wish I was here and like. how have you kind of balanced that when. you are working to not let it just like. >> overtake you because it can feel. probably like a lot. Well, sometimes you. feel like you're like you're like, "Do.

these people have endless time?" Like. some people just have a lot of time to. go and volunteer all the time and it's. amazing and I I like that is an. incredibly important thing, but I don't. always have time to do that and it. doesn't mean that I'm not a great mom, you know? I think it's like. understanding that like kids if they. feel loved like that's the most. important thing and you know and it's. like everyone has different way it's. just like you connect with any person. whether they're a grown-up or a kid but. it's like you connect with your kids in.

unique ways and it's like my kids and I. each have specific things we connect on. and and I try to like like really lean. into those things you know um we make. little movies together that's like. something we do and we we'll like pick a. genre and like watch a movie in the. genre and then we'll make a little movie. in the genre and I'll edit it and my son. likes to do like stopotion animation so. we try to work that in and then my. daughter likes they loves acting so they.

they they. >> you're a good acting partner to have. >> Well, I don't I don't even act in them. They act in them. >> Oh, [laughter] you're directing and. editing. >> Really cute. Yeah, I direct an edit and. yeah, it's really fun and and um so it's. it's been. >> and and sometimes I'm surprised like I. >> we watched the Maltese Falcon cuz we. were making a film noir and I was like. there's no way they're going to sit. through this and then they sat through. the whole thing. They were like totally. happy. >> Look, you're doing what your dad did. now. They're going to have good taste. You have good taste. They have good.

taste. >> They have good taste. [laughter]. >> Um let's talk about your relationship. You are engaged to Jonathan Scott. Yes. I know that you guys met filming Carpool. Karaoke, which is. >> literally adorable. At what point though. did you realize that you were into him. and that there was like a spark or a. connection? >> Right away I was like, he's really cute, like handsome guy. Um, and I was like. going through a divorce that was like. kind of under wraps because we were, you.

know, like for our kids, we're like, you. know, in divorce mediation and um, and. um, so I was just kind of like looking. for someone to flirt with. Like I was. like, "Oh, I'll flirt with him. He's. fun." You know? Um, and yeah, we like. immediately had a connection. Um, and it. took a while for him to like drag it out. [laughter]. that I was like getting a divorce and. then Yeah. And then we've been like. inseparable ever since. He's like the. nicest person. Wait. And your siblings.

were both in the car for carpool karaoke. afterwards. Was your sister like, "This. is a no-brainer." Or did they not see. the chemistry? >> She might have been like, "I knew that.". Like like I was like, "I'm going on a. date with Jonathan." Like she might have. been like, "I knew it." That's such a. sister thing to like pretend they knew. exa. I'm like, "No, you didn't.". [laughter]. No, that literally never happened. >> She kind of does know everything, but. >> I know. I don't like to let my sister. know that she knows everything. >> Do you have an older sister? >> Yeah. So, she's older, so she doesn't. >> My sister knows everything, but I'm.

like, "No, you don't." Like, "Okay, anyways, come to me when you want the. answers." I'm like, "Oh [laughter] my. god." Um, okay. So, you go from carpool. karaoke to dating. Like, who made the. first move? Like, what happened? Um, well, it was probably like a mutual like. first move. Um, but um, we had a really. like funny first date where like half. the time he was trying to drag it out of. me like what was going on and I was. like, I'll tell you later cuz we were. like in a crowded restaurant and then we.

did like karaoke and like we were just. going from to thing to thing and then. he's like, I want you to see this house. I'm renovating. And I was like, oh, he's. going to try to kiss me. And then he. didn't because he's just a nerd who's. trying to show me a house. [laughter]. And then I was like, "Well, that went. like really badly.". >> Stop. >> And I got in the car and he was like, "Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Like you left. really fast.". >> And you're like, "I thought I was going. to get a make out." And then. >> Yeah. I was like, "I thought we were. vibing." [laughter]. >> And you eventually got your kiss. So. you're fine. >> Yeah. Yeah, we did.

>> Um, what is. >> second date? >> Perfect. What is Jonathan's best quality. as a partner? >> Um, he's like so. he's very kind. and he's like he's like almost like. methodical about making sure you're. um like everything's like you're. supported. He's very supportive and kind. and like and like just he's a really. nice person. I mean he's Canadian. [laughter]. >> That we Canadian say no say no more. I'm.

like got it. >> We love Canadian. >> We love Canadians. [laughter] Um what do. you think he would say your best quality. as a partner is? Um, I'm fun. [laughter]. >> I'm literally the life of the party, obviously. So, cute. Like, I bring the. goodness. >> I'm very fun. >> And he's kind [laughter] and I'm fun. >> He's also really fun, too. >> Cute. >> I'm kind too. I'm kind too. I have good. taste in men. [laughter]. >> Done. Um, okay. So, you got engaged, I.

know, at a castle on vacation. I had. like I'm curious. Did you have any idea. you knew you were getting proposed to? >> No, nothing. >> I had like thought other times we might. get like engaged and then it didn't. happen and so I was like I guess it's. never going to happen cuz we've been. together like a long time and um and we. were in Edinburgh which where his. family's from. And I also like am. originally Scottish like my family and.

um but his dad is from um actually from. like near Glasgow um in Lannarch and um. which is like I don't know an hour from. Edinburgh. Anyway, he loves Edinburgh. Castle and we were going there like with. the kids like on a tour and there was. this whole this was what was so funny. There were like all these things that I. flagged but didn't like I just said like. that's weird cuz there was a thing that. said like. you might meet members of the royal. family so you can't wear a hat in the.

calendar like there will be things and I. was like what I was like the queen like. they wear hats all the time like royal. family like is obsessed with hats. Why. can't I wear a hat? Cuz I'm always. wearing a hat cuz I like don't want sun. I'm terrified of the of the sun. Um, and. I'm like, "That's so lame." And he's. like, "No, I mean, it makes sense." And. I was like, "Okay, whatever." I didn't. wear a hat. Then it was like, he's like, "You have to dress kind of nice." And I. was like, "Okay." And I had like a silk. blouse and like a silk skirt. I just put.

them on. They were like in my suitcase. like so wrinkled. He's like, "Oh, um, do. you would you like to iron those?" And I. was like, "No." I was like, "Iron? That's like That sounds terrible. that sounds like work that I don't want. to do. And he's like, "I'll iron them.". And I was like, "Okay.". >> This poor man is just trying to make. sure you look gorgeous. And you're like, >> he's like, he's like, and I guess my mom. was like, "She's going to need like hair. and makeup.". >> Oh. >> And he was like, "You should like make.

sure to do your hair like for this. random tour.". >> You're [laughter] like, "What are you. trying? Why do I need to do my hair?". >> But then I got it. And then there was. another surprise which was incredible. because I'm in incredibly close with my. parents and and they weren't there for. the proposal. H but we went to Paris. afterwards like the like maybe a day or. two later. and we were going to this restaurant La. Kupole that like we went growing up we'd. go to Paris like every summer. My family.

is French, my dad's family. And um when. we got there, we said, "Oh, Des Chanel.". And she said, "Caleb." And I was like, "Oh, that's weird." And I was like, "Oh, no. That's cuz um they just have it like. in their system." And then they we. walked in, my parents were sitting there. waiting for us, so they surprised us. >> That's adorable. And Jonathan had like. arranged the whole thing. Yeah. He's. very thoughtful, you know. >> That's really really huge. Um Okay. Are. you wedding planning? Yes. But it's.

really like a lot of pressure cuz like. you know he designs like incredible. spaces and like I'm like there's like no. space like worthy of such a wedding. It's really hard to find that's not like. a gazillion. >> of course. So you're got you just got. married. >> Yes. I got married almost two years ago. Like a year and a half. >> Was that so fun? >> It was so amazing. But I really really. loved that my husband took such um part. in the planning if not like really. helped do it cuz I was like I don't want.

to do this on my own. And again to each. their own. There are some women that are. like I'm doing this whole thing but like. I really wanted my husband to plan it. And we went through all these different. locations and all the things and then we. eventually found what we wanted to do. and it was perfect but it is. >> very stressful. >> It's fun but it's stressful. >> Yeah. >> So you're going to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I we've both been. married before, right? So, I'm like, this one. >> has to be the most fun. And [laughter]. >> but maybe that takes less pressure,

right? Cuz you've had weddings before. So, maybe you can be like, >> yeah, >> what do we want now? You guys, you kind. of get to like. >> have a doover. Like, what would. >> which is why takes forever, >> right? You're like, "Oh, god." You're. like, he's like, "Oh, we'll do this.". You're like, "No, but I did that and. that wedding and that was not fun." Mix. that. Um, I was going to say because you. guys have both been married before, um, as you were getting more serious, how. openly were you able to just talk about. past relationships and like what worked. and what didn't work? >> Yeah. Um, I'm very open. So, yeah. I.

mean, it was we were it was pretty easy. um because I I I'm pretty open, but you. know, the thing is like I to me it's. just all about like chemistry. It's like. what you know it's like we he and I can. be together and it's like easy you know. um and so I think it's like more just. about like you know how people like that. person's the one or whatever. I think. what that means is that you can be. around them and it's like feels like.

easy and like not stressful and you know. it just like that's what I felt when I. was with him and I think he feels the. same way where it's just like we can be. together and like have fun but also like. he likes to tinker around the house. He's always like fixing stuff and he has. like a list of things and like I have. like I like to go out and go shopping, whatever I like to do, you know, um and. hang out with my cats or whatever. [laughter]. Um, and yeah, it just we can just be. around each other. It's easy. >> It's amazing. Um, you said in an.

interview that people think of divorce. as this terrible thing and you have to. hate each other, but that isn't true. What has your experience been like? >> Yeah, I don't hate anyone that I was. with before. Um, and you know, it's it's. awesome because my kid's dad is a great. dad and like I always want to like. support him as a parent and we have like. a you know, it's like we have a group. chat like Jonathan and Jacob and I and. and. uh yeah, I mean um.

like my kids thrive when they know that. we all care for each other and you know. and we socialize and we've been on. vacations together and like you know. we've. We've been through a lot. So, you know, I you know, it's like I explained to my. son, I remember when he was little, and. he was like, "Wait, cuz he was so. little, he doesn't remember like before. we got divorced, but he goes like, "How. come you and daddy don't live in the. same house?" Um, and I was like, "We get. along better if we're in different.

houses." [laughter]. >> It's a good way to say it. You're like, "This is actually better for everyone, but. >> yeah, we get along great as long as. we're in different houses." [laughter]. >> So true. Um, what boundaries do you. think like cuz I'm sure a lot of people. are like, "Oh my gosh, um, that sounds. so great like to have like a healthy. relationship with exes and whatever, but. like what boundaries do you think have. to be in place to just make sure that. you know you can have blended families?". Yeah. If you have any advice? >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I talk to people.

about this all the time because there. are people like it's really hard for. them to let go of like feeling mad. You. have to let go of like any anger you. would feel. And I know that sounds. difficult, but it's actually pretty easy. when you just go like, look, the most. important thing is that the, you know, the kids are happy and and that they're. thriving and um and and it's kind of. like respecting them for them, you know? It's like I respect his opinions and his. point of view like being a parent. It's. not always the same as mine, but like he.

respects mine and and so I think and two. if you set the tone too. You go like I. respect you then people are a lot more. likely to be like then I respect you. know so like I think it goes both ways. So then he'll respect me and I respect. him and then it just keeps and then the. respect just keeps generating and. building you know. >> Yeah. It's like just having like an. understanding that yes, things didn't. work out, but we have these beautiful. children. So to like maintain love there. for the kids is like beautiful. >> Yeah. He's a fantastic dad. I'm so lucky.

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congratulations. What can you tell us. about the movie and just like how do you. feel about it? >> It's such a cute movie. I'm really. really excited about it. It's got so. much fun stuff. Um, it's a romcom, which. like I love romcoms so much and like I. feel like they went away for a while. Like there weren't that many of them and. I feel happy there's like a you know. more stuff like that coming out cuz I. feel like people crave romcoms. It's. such a sweet story. Um, it's with. Charlie Cox, who is amazing, great.

actor, and is really funny and great in. this. Um, it's about a couple that. breaks up, but they share a dog, and. then the dog becomes depressed, and. then, um, they end up having to take the. dog on a beach vacation to try to cheer. him up over the holidays. So, we have. holidays, we have dogs, we have romcom. >> Okay. Wait, every person. So, did this. did this sway you to be more of a dog. person? >> Well, I was a dog person.

>> Oh, okay. When I only recently became a. cat person. Oh, >> I love dogs. >> Um, but they're a little more like. maintenance. >> and um and I I actually love both dogs. and cats. And I would call my cats kind. of Well, my favorite cat, sorry, >> I love them all, but she's kind of like. a dog cat. >> What is her name? >> Her name is Dove. She's like really fluffy and cute and. she The reason why like I say like she's. my favorite. The other ones would get.

it. Um if they understand obviously. right now. >> they they're big fans. >> They're all listening right now. [laughter]. >> Um but yeah. Um well she just loves me. the most and she like jumps in my lap. She's like really really affectionate. They're they're really affectionate. cats. Um. >> so what made you want to do another. holiday movie? Well, I didn't really when I read this, I didn't like think like that was like. it's it's more of like a holiday movie. in that it has holiday as a backdrop and.

you can watch it on Christmas and feel. Christmasy, but it's not like it's not. like Elf where it's like holidays front. and center. I'd say like romcom and. >> dog. >> are front and center and then holiday is. like a is an accent color. Yeah. It's. like it's like a it's like piping on a. sweater. Like a collar, like a nice. scarf. What was your favorite part of. making this movie? >> Um, it was so fun. I uh Jess Swale, the. director, I love her and Charlie is. amazing and it was really fun working.

with the two of them and kind of um I we. kind of like did a lot of improvisation. and um trying to make it like the most. kind of funny version of itself was. really so much fun. the I hadn't done. like a really big dog movie and that was. funny to to watch. The dog just like. loves sausages. It's [laughter]. >> you're like there was a lot of things I. saw in that set that were. >> the dog just like loves like they have. these little bits of sausage and the dog.

just obsessed. >> and that's how you got him to like sit. >> Like he looks so cute and you're like. it's cuz he's looking at a sausage. Honestly, in hindsight, my dogs would. probably love to be on a movie set. because you just like coersse them with. treats every 5 seconds like stay sit. don't. >> they put they have health so like. basically they give them like healthy. treats so that it's not like they're. >> Yes. They're not just plumping up the. whole Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> They're not like they're not like bad. free treats. So they're very healthy. treats. >> But they'll give them like chicken. breast and stuff like that. But yeah, and sausages. >> Well, I'm so excited for everyone to.

watch it. Where can we watch it? >> It's on Amazon. >> Love. Yes. Okay. Well, everyone will. tune in. Zoe, thank you so much for. coming on Color Daddy. It was a. pleasure. >> Thank you for having me. Very special. holiday episode. >> brought to you by Zoe and Alex. Happy. holidays, everyone. You're like, "Now I. wish Do you wish you wore Do you wish. you wore a little suit?" You're like, "No." You're like, "No, >> I'm mad at myself [laughter] for not.". >> Thank you so much for coming on. >> Thank you for having me. [music].