Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story (Full Episode)

[Music]. what is up daddy gang it is your. Founding Father Alex Cooper with call. her. daddy Winnie harlo welcome to call her. Daddy thank you so much thank you for. having me sorry I'm losing my voice no I. just said I'm like a sultry raspy voice. for a. podcast should we do is call her daddy. we're here little ASMR little ASMR. vibing um I'm sorry but we have to get.

right into it you just walked in here. and I'm blinded by your hand you just. got engaged. congratulations tell me the story I need. to know like how he did it how it. happened tell me everything it's so. funny cuz I'm telling the story but like. I was the last one to know about it oh. my God everyone like on my whole team. was like did you not realize that we've. been uh voiding you for the past two. weeks I was like I was none the wiser.

stop it was so cute um Kyle told me that. he wanted to go to Turks for Valentine's. Day and I was like that is so cute it's. like my favorite place other than. Jamaica cuz I'm Jamaican but um we. went I got super sick classic classic I. got so romantic super sick and um I feel. like everyone was like super scared like. is this going to ruin the trip Kyle was. like don't worry once this goes down she.

will forget she's completely sick and. rightfully so he was so right this whole. trip was. incredible I um I got ready I took a. shower in the morning and he came into. the bathroom he's like but you look good. I was like thank you cuz this is going. to be a good trip we're going to have a. great time he was like yeah we're going. to have a great time this is going to be. a great trip oh my God we when you cuz. when I remember when I got engaged I was. similar to you where like everyone.

around me was like knew every detail to. the point where like my husband flew my. friends out and my family out like. everyone was there and isn't that so. beautiful it's so beautiful to know that. I don't know I feel like when you become. an adult there's little moments where. you actually feel like you get surprised. in life and you actually are enjoying. like people coming together and doing. something special for you because when. you're an adult it's like you're getting. the niece and nephews or your kids the. presents for the holiday like it's just. not as magical in moments and when you.

have the people in your life come. together to like make this fun moment. that's so Grand you're like always a. part like I'm sure you are a part of. like the planning of everything so it. was like I can't believe you guys pulled. this off and not only pulled it off but. pulled it off as if I was a part of the. planning everything was so perfect that. I would have thought I was a part of. like I would have picked that I would. have picked that wait can you give us. like how he actually f physically did it.

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got traded from uh the Wizards to. Milwaukee and we were joking you know. he's like I'm going off to work now you. know I I'll I'll see you soon can't wait. for you to come to Milwaukee I was like. write me a love letter my um my my. sergeant send me a love letter and it. was just a joke you know but he took. that and wrote me a love letter to. propose it was the cutest ever I was.

like tearing up crying but crying just. because it was so cute I still had no. idea so first you're like he decks out. this plane you're on this gorgeous PJ. you're like okay my man is like really. spoiling me then he's reading You A. Goddamn love letter and you're like I am. so in love with you like already you're. happy you're ready to go exact like I'm. good this is going to be a great trip. like absolutely this is going to be an. amazing Valentine's Day but it's around. Valentine's Day so you're already just. feeling day before.

okay so it's like romantic you're. feeling The Vibes and then how does he. pop the question so at the end of the. poem the way he wrote it it was. like as if he was going to say will you. be my. Valentine and it was will you be my. wife and literally like just went into. shock I just I was already crying and. just flooded with tears at that point. and he pulled out the box got out in one.

knee and I was like yes I to see it I. thought you to see it yes yes yes okay. first of all that is so [ __ ] cute and. were you guys alone or was your family. around you we were alone so apparently. um he wanted to do it in Turks with the. family and everything and just last. minute he changed his mind and was like. guys I'm doing it on the plane and our. moms were so. mad like tell him he has to do it here.

he has to be here we need to see it how. could he and he was like y'all go enjoy. the beach right have a good old time. y'all are in Turks and caos have a great. time I'm doing it the way I want and I. love that he did that it was so. beautiful so romantic it was just him. and I and then surprise everyone was in. Turks I had no clue as well oh so you. had no clue that you were about to land. so you thought you were going to have. this like weekend getaway with your. fiance and then you land and it's like. your mom and everyone is there oh that's.

so special my mom my dad my sister his. mom like literally everyone was there I. screamed okay I am now convinced because. I feel like we have a lot of overlapping. in our engagement stories like too okay. yeah yeah cuz now I'm like really vibing. with this and I'm like if any man still. watches callard daddy or whatever woman. is forcing you to watch the show take. notes because I think the concept of. having an alone moment with your partner. and having like the Privacy and intimacy. of an alone moment like he made the.

right decision by you guys got to have. that time alone a couple hours on your. own and then once it sinks in then you. want to be with the people you love most. that is like the perfect combination cuz. then I'm sure like how I felt in that. moment I'd love to hear how you felt on. the plane ride was like Matt did it at. our house and it was so romantic and I. was in such shock that I kept being like. I've got to call my mom I've got to call. my mom and dad and he was like We'll. call them in a minute let's have some. champagne babe like and I was like. you're right right okay right you're.

like I need to tell my parents and then. I'm like did you ask my parents and he. was like. yes and I'm like no no no I Pro he's. like I promise they said yes and like. I'm going through all this so he's. trying to calm me down so in hindsight. I'm like poor Matt is like [ __ ] they're. already [ __ ] waiting for you like. just enjoy the moment alone with me but. it then allowed me to like have an. intimate kiss like hug each other talk. about it ask him the detailed questions. of how he came up with this and give him. kind of like the credit he deserves 100%. And then let the family go pressure like.

it's so much pressure I I big them up. like incredible he did such a good job. funny enough like even my nails My Nail. Tech is actually from LA and I used to. live here and I moved to DC with him and. I've been like missing my nail tech cuz. like I mean we love our nail ticks and. um he messaged me my nailtech to be like. hey um I have family in DC my cousin's. birthday is tomorrow so I'm flying out.

there do you need your nails and like. lashes done I was like oh babe guess. what ly is coming out here it's just a. coincidence such a amazing coincident. you know I've been missing him and he's. like that's ins why is he out here I was. like apparently he has family I don't. know wait and Kyle actually set the. whole thing up no okay that's actually. I'm going to Hype your man up for a. second that is next level [ __ ] to be. like I'm going to think.

about my girl's nails to the point where. I am going to fly out her Nail Tech The. Trusted person that does her nails so. she feels so Gorge okay okay Kyle now. you're just like making everyone look. bad nuts holy sh that's so nice and then. you look down you're like okay so I'm in. the car on the way to the plane and he. was like you were so annoying in the car. it was hilarious I just kept looking so. he gave me this bracelet for Valentine's. Day so I'm like none the wiser like I. already got my Valentine's Day gift the. day before like we're on our way to our.

trip and I'm like looking at my bracelet. and my hands and my nails and I'm like. babe like the hand pics like at the. beach like it's going to be so nice and. his head he's like yeah it is like you. don't even know you don't even know wait. okay so I want to hear though about the. ring because I feel like this is just. like such fun girl stuff that like some. people grow up wanting it some people. don't but when it happens it's so. beautiful and it's such a moment that. you like can cherish forever the ring.

is it's so stunning there's not words. but can you tell us like did you talk. about engagement and if you did did you. give him ideas of what you wanted as a. ring or is this like full surprise he. did this on his own so we've been. talking about engagement for the past. year but just like um like we started. doing like marriage counseling and um. you know just talking about our future. and like how many kids we want and all.

that type of stuff like where would you. want to get married like just. communicating you know like I think it's. so important to be able to learn good. communication before you even take that. step Y and so you know I had sent him. like some rings I had been saving for. years like I look back on my phone it's. like 2015 I have like pictures of rings. that like now my idea of what I wanted. to has evolved but just the idea of it. being like classic and fairy tale like.

was my you know thought process on it. and I feel like he executed incredibly. like this looks nothing like anything. that I've ever shown him but that was I. also try to make that very clear like. this is not I'm showing you this cuz I. want this ring I want whatever you. create cuz he's also Super Creative okay. that is like I agree I think listen. there's going to be girls out there. where it's like for the love of God do. not let your man pick the ring if your. life depends on it cuz he can't even.

like put two of the same colored socks. on in the morning he's going to pick a. horrible ring and I love the girls that. are like so this is it yeah it's on hold. over there and then I do appreciate also. like the other side of it where like. you're saying like you had a vision. lightly but you let him run with it 100. it's so stunning he took like 3 months. to design and make it with the Jeweler. and it was so funny like him talking to. me about it and like why he did. different things like he was like I. thought about doing like diamonds around.

it but I thought it won't be comfortable. for her to wear and I was like hitting. my leg I was like yeah you're so right. like I don't even feel anything you're. so like all the other rings I'm like oh. my gosh yeah I can feel the same way. yeah hurt somebody like shaking their. hand or something it's so like well. thought out attention to detail exactly. and then for the rest of the weekend in. Turks like what would you say with your. family and your friends and now you're. fiance like what was your favorite. moment of the like weekend proposal. moments like after the proposal cuz I.

was like that you're like that but then. once you got there with your family I. think the surprise that everyone was. there did you SOB. SOB I felt in my knees like when did you. know they were there we arrived and he. was just showing me like it was all. decorated and like we had flowers and. pictures pinned up of us over the years. it was so beautiful and we walked out to. like the backyard area and the DJ just. dropped music and everyone was like. surprise. it was incredible those moments where.

you're like no I thought that this was. enough and now this like you've got to. be more and more and more and more I. couldn't like each moment was such a. surprise and I was so happy that like. I'm not that type of person who wants to. figure it out yeah so I'm so happy I was. like none the wiser to anything it's so. beautiful and I love engagement stories. but I want to rewind because from what. I've read Kyle had to shoot his shot. twice with you like you would at one. point you wouldn't even give this man.

the time of day I'm like this is so. lovely I'm like Winnie this is pure love. start from the beginning yeah you you. basically ghosted this [ __ ] man what. happened what was going on no so I I met. him I actually originally met him at. Fashion Week okay briefly I was um. entering a party and he was leaving the. party and it was these like I think like. two or three tall guys who were leaving. a fashion party it was like Harpers. bizarre icons or something. and um he was like yo so where's the.

Afterparty and I didn't really look at. them so I was like I don't know and I. looked I was like oh they're. tall oh he's kind of cute but whatever. you know like we're walking to the party. and I I turned back and I was like DM me. cuz like he must know who I am if he's. like you know trying to see where I'm. going right so I was like oh DM me and. then I guess he dm'd me but I never seen. it you know how like Instagram's kind of. like trick.

you got to work for that [ __ ] so I just. didn't see it and do you know what he. said I don't actually okay we need to go. we need to [ __ ] scroll back up at. some point yeah um I I don't remember. what he said but a year later during the. pandemic I was living in New York and he. lived in La he was playing for the. Lakers and um I just signed to Puma um. as an ambassador and he was signed to. Puma at the time so he posted me to say.

congratulations on like me getting my. Puma like welcome to the Puma family. like on his story on his story oh my. that's kind of like flirty right right. like cute but I didn't see it as well. Winnie you're like I am never on my. phone or I just was not meant for a. little bit to see this man you know what. it makes it even sweeter cuz it's like. it was meant to be it was me swerving. this man left and right and finally on. purpose not on purpose but um when I saw.

it it was 24 hours after you know what. the story is gone oh just say mentioned. and you're like what was that I was sick. I was like I don't even know what he. posted like was it cute like what right. like this man that I don't really know. like he just posted me on his [ __ ]. story and it's not like and it's not. like this is not something that's going. to be seen by people you both have. followings where it's like what is this. that okay so I dm'd him and I was like. Hey that what was that and he was like. oh it was just congrat congratulating. you on like your Puma deal I was like oh.

that's so sweet thank you appreciate it. sweet and obviously in the pandemic we. have nothing to do so I was like cool. like so what have you been up to in the. pandemic you know whatever small talk. and um we were messaging back and forth. for a bit but it was like I would. message and then like five hours would. pass and I wouldn't realize that he. responded and then I would see it and it. was just like three days of like small. talk. and I was like hey you know what I'm not.

really super good at DMs like here's my. number text me and yeah then we texted. for like a few days and then he started. FaceTiming me and he was like super. sweet he would like have an interview to. do you know like everybody was doing. that whole like Zoom interview stuff and. he had an interview to do he was like. Hey I have like some work to do I'll. call you back in an hour and I was like. yeah okay cool like you're going call me. back in an hour an hour literally called.

me back and I was like a man of his word. we love this we love this wow and so it. just naturally prog that's like I girl. we have like this I we so in sympatico. with this I'm like I met my man like. literally online on Zoom then we. FaceTime so we had like a random meeting. that my agent was having me meet like. with like TV and movie Producers just to. see if like I would ever want to do. something in that space and he was like. my last Zoom of the day and I always. joked to him because I had these like.

men that were like [ __ ] 60 not. there's anything wrong with you but they. were like 60 and I'm like in my hoodie. I'm like looking not that cute and then. the last zo of the day he was late so I. like Googled him and I was like wait. he's [ __ ] young and hot what the hell. I'm like putting my [ __ ] lip liner. I'm overlining my lips I'm pushing my. tits up I get on the zoom I'm like hello. and he was just so cute and Charming but. also like not overly like oh my God I. want to be in business with the caller. daddy girl so I kind of loved it that he. wasn't giving me too much of the time of. day and then we ended up talking and. then I flew to LA and met him and when.

was this this was in 2020 you lived in. New York right and Kyle lived in La yeah. I lived in New York and Matt lived in LA. and we met in the pandemic online days. no and then we what is the Synergy no. it's weird I'm telling you that's why I. was so excited to talk to you today. because then seeing your engagement I. was like girl we have too much in common. right now crazy can I ask you though. like when you started to talk to Kyle. were you looking for a relationship like. when was your last relationship prior to.

him um probably like two years prior and. I wasn't looking for a relationship but. like I think it was. just I like to um I like to like talk to. someone who's serious y you know so I do. have that in mind like I did have that. in mind when I was like you know talking. to people but it was just you know. friendly conversation at first and like. good conversation then too which was.

beautiful and it was a pandemic so we. had so much time to get to know each. other yeah and I feel like that was such. a blessing as well were you at all like. you're an athlete I don't know about. athletes like were you at all nervous. cuz I feel like some girls are like you. go in and you're like oh here we go. again and he seems obviously he's. amazing but like did you have any. preconceived notions I I I feel like I. did like once upon a time when I was. like in my early 20s like I would never.

date an athlete like too much but when. it did happen it was kind of like not. really a thought it was like cool you. know what like it's a good conversation. and even if we just become friends like. that's cool too you know cute yeah talk. to me about the pros and cons of being. in a long-distance relationship at first. because I have so many women right into. me being like what do I do and like what. was your experience with it did you ever. get annoyed was it good because it was. that you were like fine with it yeah I.

mean I think because I didn't know him. it was cool but we talked for like a. month straight and it got to the point. where like we were like falling asleep. on the phone and like waking up on the. phone and I remember the first time I. like was like okay cool we went on. FaceTime for a minute like I just I need. to take off my makeup like that is like. put my phone down I was like washing my. face and he was just right there on the. phone I was like this too much like I'm. in my house I can't go nowhere like I. need to unglam and from then we would.

just be like on the phone. nonstop and. um I feel like we talked for a month. straight okay and then he was like you. got to come to La yeah so we were long. distance getting to know each other but. that was cool and then I went to LA not. knowing when I was coming back cuz it's. also again pmic so there's nothing for.

us to do and it was kind of like I would. say like he's like Superman he rescued. me from the pandemic cuz I was by myself. so did you end up moving in the pandemic. I did okay so we're but you know what. the thing is I always wanted to live in. LA interesting so right before the. pandemic I was already looking at houses. oh okay so that was in your future yeah. it wasn't my future but it got like cut. because the pandemic hit I had to go. back home and then it was kind of like. what do I do do I like go home to. Toronto and stay with my family do I. like stay here. you need to talk to me though about the.

weird part of social media is yes you. saw this man one time coming out of a. club quickly and like barely you just. notice his height you're not like really. focused on him you meet him in person. basically for the first time and even. though you guys have been talking like. yeah were you nervous at all like. physically nervous like you've never. this literally like my stomach hurts. when I get nervous I was like actually. literally [ __ ] in bricks like I was so. nervous and then he came out to like.

help with my luggage and stuff and he. had no shirt on it was like hot in LA. and I was like I'm already nervous. please oh my days like please cuz you're. like I thought a lot about that of like. when you're telling this story I'm like. as much as you're sharing which is a. weird beautiful thing I do think when. people give people [ __ ] of like meeting. online and I wish I met them. romantically in a bar and whatever it's. like there is something so gorgeous I. felt with my husband of we did the same. thing where we're like FaceTiming every.

single we're like Co couples where it's. like you're FaceTiming every night. you're talking we were getting so much. deeper than maybe we would have been if. we were just like out for drinks in LA. and having like 1 hour dinners and. everything happens for a reason too. right but then you're like now let's see. if we physically connect and I like you. had the feeling yeah but still do you. remember the first time that you were. like oh my God okay like we're going to. like kiss and make out like was it. immediate or did you guys wait to like. physically connect. it was immediate it was it was.

definitely immediate but I feel like. we I remember we would like play like 21. questions and stuff like get to know. each other on the phone and then it felt. like we were running out of questions. like how long we were staying on the. phone so I started like ordering games. that were like 21 questions for like new. questions which was so much fun too cuz. I was like I would have never thought. about this but we felt like we knew each. other so well by that point like we. literally were on the phone like 12. hours straight like. every day no hangups we would like watch.

movies and like be like okay on the. count of three Press Play 1 2 three is. it aligned perfect okay cool that is. adorable call her daddy is brought to. you by. arnb Daddy gang I am planning a girls. trip currently and I am so excited. because we just booked the perfect. Airbnb I wanted to find a home with one. a fireplace two a hot tub to just make. sure we have the cozy Vibes and then I. also wanted it to be dog friendly so.

that Henry and Bruce obviously can come. along and hang out with the girls I. personally love getting a house for. girls trips because there is obviously. it gives you more space to just stretch. out and relax but also then everyone can. have their own beds and also I want to. correct everyone except for me and. Lauren because Lauren and I will always. be sleeping in the same bed slumber. party Vibes but having a home for a. girls trip means that we can cook dinner. all together and then at night we can. stay up late night chatting it's just. nice knowing that we have the whole.

Space to ourselves and a little bit of. privacy I also love staying at Airbnb. because when I go to weddings with. friends I've started to do this now we. just get an Airbnb and it means we can. all hang out more I remember I went to. my friend Jackie's wedding and we all. would come back to our Airbnb after the. rehearsal dinner we sat around we were. catching up for hours we were little. literally up till like 3:00 a.m. and. then the morning of Jackie's Wedding was. perfect because that meant we were able. to all go downstairs make our coffee and. get ready together which is 10 times.

better than just like being in a room by. yourself weekends with my friends just. go by obviously so fast now that we're. adults we don't get to see each other as. much so I never want to separate from. them for me Airbnb is the best way to. bring long-distant friends together and. maximize the time that we have there are. so many reasons I love Airbnb so stay. tuned to hear about all of the upcoming. trips that I am planning for this year. what is your ideal night out like tell. me about your social life like if you.

have your choice and you're going out. somewhere like what are you doing what. are you eating what's your Vibe I like. going to restaurants but I feel like I'm. I'm such a like movie like inside like. let's like just be in like chill Lounge. clothes and like watch a movie and like. Vibe do you drink yeah what's your goto. drink cocktail yeah um I like mix. something if I'm just getting something. on the menu I love a leuch martini with. extra Lees I like a martini I like a. espresso martini I on my espresso. Martini like it's so good I like sweet.

drinks okay but I do like like a dirty. martini as well oddly like I love. olives okay are when you're drunk are. you the life of the party are you the. person like Irish exiting or are you the. drunk crier or like who are you in your. friend group. um I'm like life of the party and like. talker like I love to communicate it's. like all the inhibitions are down it's. like I love you so much like you don't.

understand like you're the baddest like. period I feel like I'd run into in a. bathroom at a party in LA and we would. be doing this but like more annoying. like no Winnie no but you don't no you. don't get it but you're so gorgeous no. that's so girl coded you're just like. shut up and we're like shut up but so. fun that's literally Matt is always like. what but what could you guys have been. talking about and I'm like what do you. mean there's so should discuss oh my God. I you get it um okay you're one of the.

most famous supermodels in the world so. I want to play a quick game just to like. catch your Vibe do it I'm going to give. you a crazy modeling scenario and you're. going to tell me if you would book it or. you would back out of the gig okay pose. in a live snake. pit how many snakes oh see me I'd be. like I wouldn't don't even so you're. down yeah what's the craziest like. modeling thing you've done for like I'm. not really scared of snakes like I did.

um for Halloween one year so a lot of uh. fans would tell me that I remind them of. chitara I don't know if you know that. cartoon so I just leaned into it I did. it for Halloween but I had like a whole. jungle set up so I got like snakes to. come and like I was holding the snakes. there was this big what's like the. yellow snake uh python it's a python. right something something like that yeah. I was I was like it's either a python or. a bow construction I don't know but you. did one of those big things I had the. big like yellow Britney Spears snake um.

I had a few little ones okay so you're. down for this [ __ ] this is good to know. yeah yeah yeah anything for the shot. honestly so I respect it yeah would you. do a shoot with an. ex-boyfriend as she looks down her my. man my man you know uh no I feel like. also everything is communication too so. like now if it was like a Dior campaign. I don't have control and whatever it's. just like babe this is a situation.

whatever I feel like we're also very. understanding too and that's a part of. our careers you know like you may come. across someone whatever as long as like. we're aware you know yes you're not. being like shady and not talking about. it if it's like up front and it's going. to really help your career I agree for. sure boom get your nipples pierced for. the shoot H I don't know I've I actually. always wanted my nipples pierced but. like the pain like I feel like those are. one of the piercings that don't heal. very quickly I have so I love girls that.

do it but I could never do that I am. such a little [ __ ] with pain I would be. like I I would I couldn't I just could. never I love the aesthetic though oh my. God like a little like white T-shirt and. you see I'm like girl you're crushing. love the aesthetic I couldn't but I. don't know I feel like also I mean shoot. if I was doing it for the shoot I could. take it out and it would heal I don't. know I don't know about that one okay do. a monthlong shoot somewhere like in. Antarctica or something crazy but you.

have to be gone for a month. Antarctica now like can we change it to. like Barbados yeah like um I would. though I would like if there was like a. film that like I was like super into and. I got the role it be like have to that's. good to know yeah um okay you were once. on America's Next Top Model can you. describe your experience in three words. I would say.

unique. surprising and is this one word stepping. stone oh that's good no that's that's a. good word have you ever watched your. season back um long time ago okay long. time ago cuz it was like 10 years like. damn near a decade ago since America's. not Next Top Model ended obviously so. many people have come out and just been. like they didn't have the best. experience and some people were like. this was a traumatic experience for me. like what was your take in your. experience. I would say I love that every job that.

I've had in my career has led me to the. point that I'm at now and so I wouldn't. change anything in my life in general. because I'm so happy and nothing. anything that could have changed would. not have led me here to a great point no. I feel like that's like the weirdest. part of life is like I look back at. certain things people always ask me. about about like my first job that I had. or an experience that I had that like.

maybe even if it was like considered in. people's mind like more negative in the. public eye like I feel like I have now. grown so much where I have I actually. can genuinely say I have perspective and. when you're so close to something you. don't and so even if in the moment you. could say this is amazing or negative or. whatever then once you get like 10 years. down the line even 5 years down the line. you're like whoo I am so grateful for. what that taught me cuz then like what.

else are we going to do like whatever it. is like the energy then like festers in. a capacity where like you don't grow. energy that you put into it as well you. know and I feel like anything that. happens like I was 18 when I was on the. show that's what I was going to say. you're 18 then you're done the show like. 19 like did you ever struggle with. confidence like as a whole as a teenager. obviously going on that type of show I. think people think like these are the. most beautiful women in the world like.

oh my gosh to be a model you must have. such confidence like what were you going. through I feel like you can have a off. day any day like it doesn't matter how. old you are how young you are like. sometimes I might be breaking out or you. know whatever the case is and like I'm. like okay cool like this is a for now. thing like but you you're still that. girl don't worry about it that's such a. good point of like I look back when I. was in high school let's say compared to. now even like even using acne as an.

example struggled with acne so much in. high school and was like this is the end. of the world now when I'm like. struggling with acne I'm like I don't. care anymore but again I think that's. fair to say because you're just at a. different stage in your life where you. know how to handle things better like I. think when you're younger too you focus. so much on other people's opinions MH. you know and I think once I learned that. and once I even acknowledged that a lot. of my insecurities were coming from the.

opinions of other people I was like why. do I actually care about what you think. about me like I care about what I think. about me and like I care if I think I'm. a good person if I'm a beautiful person. all those things that's what really. matters so I think that's like when. people ask me about like how are you so. confident It's. like because I focus on my opinion of. myself and that's not to say like if. someone says something it can't be.

hurtful. but it's like the ability to let it roll. off your back sometimes you know it's. not nobody's perfect for sure but the. ability to let it roll off your back. your back and let your own opinion stand. foremost is that's the key I feel period. can we talk about your early dating life. what was your first romantic. relationship like um. my first ever yeah was in like.

Elementary School okay but like your. first F yeah no [ __ ] him no no like so. cute it's adorable but the first one. that you were like oh I'm like in love. and this is like a real thing I feel. like I don't see nobody like I don't see. nobody really yes I don't see nobody and. also I feel like being in such a serious. relationship it also allows you to like. realize when you're so young and you. feel like oh my God heartbreak I'm so in. love like you don't even know what love.

is what has set your relationship up. like with Kyle like apart. from the previous relationships you've. had because I do want to say I agree. with you that like in the moment and it. doesn't take away from anyone. experiencing right now but like when you. feel so like lost and why doesn't he do. this or that like you're not in the. right relationship and it's so hard to. see it but then once you do find the. right one you're like if he wanted to he.

would if he wanted to he would and it's. like then you like almost laugh at. yourself but it takes finding the right. example to them be like oh my God what. was I thinking it's all an experience. you know like it's all a life experience. and it's also helping to teach you what. you are looking for cuz unless you you. know have experiences you won't know. were you always when you were dating. like very straight up or were you ever a. little like koi playing games like. um I feel like I've always been straight.

up but I've also always been like a. little like nervous yes that's fair what. is the biggest red flag you've ever. ignored. ooh the biggest red flag I've ever. ignored is my mom saying. no such a good one yeah no I don't see. it like [ __ ] let me be let night Mama. you right you right it's so hard when. you're in it when your mom says that.

because you're like no like you just. don't get it like you you don't. understand him mom he girl no listen to. your mom listen to your mom so true but. like it's so hard in that moment because. you're trying to express your. individuality and a lot of times when we. have our first young relationships. you're trying to separate yourself from. when your parents were like you're not. allowed to go out or you're not allow so. it's like you're like I want to make my. own decisions independent of you but. then at some point you go back and.

you're like wait mom why didn't you tell. me she's like what you I've been telling. you for a year Alex that man is a. walking red flag and I'm like really you. said that I don't remember that no that. is so yeah what you said. that that's so humbling when they just. stare at you and you're like it's over. and they're like finally and you're like. mom um you and Kyle both have such. intense careers can you talk about how. you guys prioritize making time together. cuz it's such a simple concept but it is.

very hard when you have crazy schedules. like how do you make it work. communication it's so like corny to say. but like it literally is that without. communication like how do you know where. that person's going to be like he's on. my schedule I'm on his schedule but then. also it's helpful that the NBA has a. schedule that is true you know there so. I'll plan things like around his. schedule sometimes and then he'll check. my schedule to be like okay cool I. actually see that I'm playing here and. you're going to be there for work so it.

like it's all communication and I think. like I said that the other day someone. said something about like how do like. with Matt and I'm like we communicate. and I'm like oh my God you're right like. it sounds so simple but again when I. look back at previous partners that I. had it so isn't simple because some. people make itation hard right yeah and. it sounds easy but like everyone. listening you've been there it's the key. it's not easy though it's definitely not. easy it's the key but it's hard. especially getting to know someone and.

then like people have their own feelings. about different things like oh like. their own traumas from the past like so. many different things like everybody's. so different but you know what I'm like. thinking about when we're talking to. which is like the pros of how our. relationship started with the men that. we with is like Matt and I and it seems. like you and Kyle did this where it was. like the amount of conversations we had. on FaceTime where we naturally wouldn't. have probably been talking that long and.

extensively had we been in the same area. because it would be like oh our friends. are all going to the dinner or we're all. going out tonight and oh we're going to. sleep or we're watching the movie like. the amount of conversations we've had it. kind of just became this like. prerequisite in our relationship that. set us up for like we don't how to not. communicate like that is literally what. we started our relationship off of so I. I think that's so so much different. though like I agree with that but I. think it's different when. it becomes like you guys are together.

yep and and then also like he ended up. getting traded to Washington and so I. was still in La when he was in. Washington at first and like even like. our lives Chang so much too and so our. communication has to evolve that's a. good point and so like that is even a. part of like why I wanted to go to. marriage counseling because I think it's. better to create a good foundation. then have to go and find a counselor.

when things are at a bad place you know. like I want to be able to have the tools. to work through all the obstacles that. are going to come in life like yeah what. whatever relationship whether it's with. your parents with your friends with. there's always going to be obstacles in. life but being able to have those tools. of how to navigate and even understand. each other deeper totally like you. saying this also Winnie I appreciate. because I was was talking about this. with my friend she had gone into um.

couples therapy and she was like why do. I feel this like weird shame around. admitting that I'm in couples's therapy. and I was like but yet it's so normal I. say to everyone I love it I love it I'm. in marriage counseling let's go and I. think it's also like that stigma too is. why I like talking about it because I. enjoy it so much I'm like I hate that. nobody talks about it because it's so NE. NE like you want to understand your. partner you want to be able to.

communicate with your partner and. sometimes it is difficult but learning. the tools is like the first step and I. think you normalizing. like you can be going to therapy to even. better yourself it's not always because. something's wrong and in crisis mode. it's the same thing when you're in. therapy for yourself like I've gotten to. the point where when I'm talking to my. therapist I'm like I don't really have. much going on today but like I'm happy. like let's dive into like other stuff. that like maybe I can on that's not at. the Forefront of my brain it's like we. can always evolve we can always get.

better but when people think about. couples therapy they're like what's. wrong and you're like nothing we're. literally just trying to be as solid as. we can be as we enter these next stages. of life together I love that. conversation just like normalizing it so. Daddy gang if you're going to couple. therapy don't let people [ __ ] judge. you kudos to you um okay have you guys. ever gone through a l like physically. because of your schedules and how do you. guys come back together and like make. time to physically connect and be.

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be the Traders or the faithful who take. the cash you don't want to miss any of. the new remaining episodes of the. Traders streaming only on. peacock have you guys ever gone through. a little like physically because of your. schedules and how do you guys come back. together and like make time to. physically connect and be present with. each other um I think we actually like. just recently had that conversation like. sometimes I'll be traveling and he'll be. working and I'll come back and he's in.

work mode you know and that was one of. the things that we learned through. coup's therapy is like when um say he. leaves and comes back or I leave and. come back like making those moments and. times to like. reconnect whenever we come back together. is so important because like I could. come back from like a two week trip and. then he's like in his schedule like. focused you know like he works works out. a a certain time he wakes up up he wakes. up at a certain time he goes to the uh.

the the um Arena he all that stuff he's. like locked and loaded and then it's. like hey I'm back you know like but. making that important you know when he. comes back home it's like super. important like I want the house to be. nice and clean I want to like that movie. that we talked about last week like have. it lined up you know like all those. things that just kind of bring that. connection back together is so important. it's so hard to like every time someone.

asks me I'm like I would be lying if I. said and I think again this is why this. conversation is so healthy to have of. like I would be lying if I said that. Matt and I throughout our relationship. have not had to have multiple check-ins. being. like we need to always will we need to. reconn always you always will but if you. don't and I think if anything I would. ask people that are in relationships to. check in with yourself to be like when. is the last time you and your partner. were like hey we need to either one we.

need we need to make sure we have more. quality time we need to two we need to. make sure we're more physical like we. haven't connected whatever it is for. your personal relationship resetting in. moments because we get so [ __ ] busy. and like we don't even have kids yet and. we're both working so I'm like I don't. know so I just think it's normal to say. and again I think because of social. media people are like everything is. perfect and it's like yeah I love Matt. but and we're married and he's the best. but like we got to make sure that we're.

on the same except for our engagements. yeah yeah yeah perfect but nothing. nothing in life is perfect nothing okay. we're going to play a game I'm going to. list some scenarios and you're going to. tell me if it's a turn off or a turn on. he's heavy on the PDA if he knows how to. kiss turn on Okay he makes a special. playlist for sex absolutely turn on love. that love he gives you a hickey. where I was about to say it depends.

where I don't need no [ __ ] on my neck. but like right you know right um okay he. waits for you to initiate sex it depends. like you know we could take turns I. agree I think if it's like he's always. waiting it's like the same thing where. it's like you need to reciprocate but I. think. it's in moments it's hot if yeah yeah. yeah um he he sends you nudes while. you're at work.

um at work is is a bit much but like. late at night cute cute I need to lock. in I agree I need to lock in I agree I. agree he wants to have phone. sex. hey what she want. deti okay wait phone sex or FaceTime. sex what she what she going with d call. her d. Daddy I [ __ ] love you I'm dead okay.

he doesn't. manscape oh you're like down I love this. okay he's very vocal during sex love. love love I don't need a mute ass [ __ ]. like love pipe it up P pipe it up yeah. love okay he loves sex with the lights. on I mean it's not what I prefer but. I like a Vibe like I am not trying to.

[ __ ] when it's like this light well. actually I guess this lighting would be. like hot like cute but there's cameras. and everything you're like like candles. or like like I don't want it to be pitch. black where you're like I you can't see. me and I can't see you because that's. what sometimes that's fun too though. because like oh I agree I feel like your. other senses are like more heightened. that is such a good point because I. never do that but I forget what Matt and. I were doing but there was a reason it. was Pitch Black and we're like. it's kind of hot but I don't want that. every time right and again if it's.

bright again balance balance balance. like natural daylight kind of hot but. it's like yeah okay balance um he lasts. for an hour before he comes I feel like. every experience is different. so I think an hour for me I'd be like. babe come on every every experience is. different when he's like actually I'm. down for four hours and count me the. [ __ ] in every exper is different he. wants to watch porn together hot so hot.

yeah very hot hot um okay let's talk. about your brand K skin can you talk to. me like I know that you started it after. getting a very bad sunburn on a job but. like what has been the most rewarding. part of starting your own brand the most. rewarding thing for me. about K skin. is realizing that there was something in. the market that was missing for me and.

knowing that if it's missing for me it. has to be missing for a lot of people. and finding the fix for that problem and. then seeing people enjoy. it that like for me SPF has always been. so important in my life um I have. Vitiligo which means that I don't have. melanin in certain areas of my skin and. so I don't even tan here I just will. burn and so SPF has always been super. like I've been religious with wearing.

sunscreen but I hated wearing it it was. never a fun experience like left a white. cast on my white skin or my brown skin. um was sticky just didn't look good and. I remember that shoot that I burned I. went without SPF because no one on set. wanted me to put it on because it wasn't. looking good on camera and I was like. that shouldn't be a thing like you. shouldn't foro something that is like.

healthy like for your safety just. because it doesn't look good so I wanted. to fix that problem and make SPF that. you wanted to wear that looked good on. all skin tones like remember when I rub. something into my skin it got to work on. both skin tones so like got to work for. white people got to work for black. people I need it to work on all skin. tones types conditions I mean I feel. like that's when people feel like the. best brands that people create are when. you're actually filling something that. like you personally need like I feel. like it's obvious when you see people in. the market where it's like that was just.

because someone told them to do it. rather than it's like oh this is. something you're living and breathing. and you need it and you can feel that. through your brand which is incredible. thank you thank you so much of course um. what is your best skin care tip that you. can share with the girlies watching I. would say never skip your SPF yep I. think that's so important I need to get. better like don't worry I'm I'm stck you. up do you okay do you put it on no I I. know. I just try not to go outside um but.

still but still okay I get you know I. saw someone recently post on Tik Tok and. they were like what [ __ ] step are we. putting it on if you're doing a full. beat okay tell me got you tell me you're. going to do your skin care okay and then. you're going to do your primer okay and. then you're going to do your SPF SPF is. the last step in your skincare routine. before you do your makeup so we're doing. primer and then also I don't use primer.

cuz I love the feel of my SPF especially. like depending on what finish I want if. I want like a dewy beat I'm going to go. for Al glow cuz she get like that's the. islands in a bottle she gives that good. glowy skin tone that's I like yeah right. but if you're a matte girly and you want. like that full bead I would go for the. mineral drops from kkin cuz that gives. like a more natur skin like feel and. leaves that like the the makeup's going.

to grip you know this is the information. we needed okay so yeah all your skin. care whatever serums all that and. usually you should actually use more of. your serums at night but I like to. really like layer my products and then I. will finish my skin care let that sink. in do my SPF let that sink in and then. that's like the biggest step that's. changed my life recently is like I used. to be like boom boom boom boom boom and. I'm like What's happening it's like I. now like will do my first primary. skincare and then I go and get my coffee.

then I come back the simmer in the spe. it literally needs to like sink in. absolutely and then you okay this is see. we needed you don't wor I got you girl. this is good you got rejected at one. point from a job at Sephora and now K. skin is literally sold there what full. circle does that mean to you when you. found out that your product would be in. Sephora it was actually so nuts to me. because I'm such a skin care junkie like. that was like a dream job at the time.

like I was like wait I'm going to get a. discount like what you mean like I. really want that job and I wanted to. learn more about like skincare and. makeup too at that time um so I really. did want that job but you know I didn't. get it it is what it is yeah to see it. on the shelves then and I'm such a fan. of Sephora as well like it's Sephora the. skincare junkie I mean never left like I. am what girl isn't like Sephora Sephora. Sephora AB abely love so um that was a a. dream come true and Sephora has been.

such an incredible partner to work with. as well last question what do you wish. more people knew about you I feel like I. um have such a green thumb I'm so like. fascinated with plans I don't know if. that's not really like something that I. want people to know about me but like. it's an interesting like thing that I'm. super obsessed with and I'm like I. should talk about this more like you're. like I like plans every time I like meet. someone or like become friends with. someone and I realize like they're like.

super obsessed with plants it becomes a. thing like I have plant abs like I have. to have I don't even water my plants. like once a week I water them based off. of like I stick my finger in I'll feel. the soil like I have my gauges you're in. I'm in it like I love plants I talk to. my plants name my plants I love plants. period I had plants growing up and my. grandmother had an incredible garden and. she used to grow so much of the food. that we would eat from like tomatoes to. zucchini to Pumpkin like everything and.

I feel like my grandmother really gave. me a green thumb so I'm kind of obsessed. I just have to say thank you so much for. coming on that was so fun to sit down. with you again like every time this was. so much fun it was because I feel like. we may meet at some point like at like a. party in LA or whatever but to get to. sit down we have so much in common and. especially like our recent lives and it. was so. incredible to sit down with you and get. to know you more today and I'm happy. that my audience is going to get to know.

you more too and congratulations again I. like keeping like look at her eyes but. I'm like oh my God that rock is so. [ __ ] than know I really appreciate it. it's like a a big chapter in our lives. and I feel like getting all the like. blessings and the congratulations and. everything it does mean so much to me. because like it's a beautiful like I. know you you know exactly what I'm. saying like it's a beautiful beautiful. moment and it's amazing I'm I'm over the. moon love love we did it thank you.

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