Trinity Rodman: The Truth about My Family (Full Episode)

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. Trinity Rodman, welcome to Call Her. Daddy. Hey, thanks for having me. Oh my. gosh, so happy to be. No, Trinity, you just walked in here and. you go, what did you just say? You're. like, I only talk about soccer. Yeah, this is new territory. You don't want me to just talk about. kicking a ball around the field. What? I. want to talk about corner kicks this.

entire [ __ ] time. I don't take them, so I'm going to just. see what happens. My first corner kick. was in the championship, 4 years into my. pros. Stop. I literally walk up to the. corner and I was like, what what are we doing? Championship, we're losing. There's like a couple. couple minutes left. I'm standing there. like, everyone's looking like, No, stop. I. love how I say that and you're like, okay, I actually will. a story. No, stop. You're like, I have a. story. Then can this take up an hour? Um, you're going to be fine today, okay? I've got you. First of all, I do just.

have to say, I'm so [ __ ] happy that. I'm meeting you because I had a show on. Peacock during the Olympics, and I was. you're not You saw Okay. Saw you going. crazy. [ __ ] I cried when you won, okay? So, I was I got there and they. were like, oh, we're going to have you. cover all the sports. And I was like, please let me just cover soccer with a. little bit of gymnastics cuz I know. soccer. And they were like, maybe, maybe. And then they saw me talk about. soccer and they're like, okay, Jesus. Christ, just do [ __ ] soccer. to stay. You have to say. And when you.

guys won gold, I cried. Same. It Okay, great. Oh, [ __ ] Obviously, um, can you We're. going to start with some easy ones. Okay. How did you celebrate winning. gold? Oh my gosh. I cried. I like. collapsed and cried. But I don't know, I feel like there's. like no true celebration afterwards. because, hey, you got to go back to your. season in the NWSL. So, we celebrated. like the night of, partied with our. coaches and our staff and everything. That was fun.

And I didn't take the metal off even the. flight home. Like it wasn't it was glued. to my neck. When did you first take it. off? Probably when I went to sleep when. I got home cuz I was like, "Okay, that's. a lot." But even through security, I was. like trying to wear it and they were. like, "No." I was like, "Oh, okay.". I'm like staring at it through the. thing. We Where Where did you put it when you. went to bed? Um I have this little case. that I got when we won in 2021 for my. ring, but it's like big and so I just. put it in there. Hopefully it's still. there. I haven't checked on it in a. minute. Wait, what? I should probably check to.

see if she's okay. Casual just gold. medal sitting somewhere random. What is. your pre-game ritual? Do you have any. superstitions? I feel like I have so. many little superstitions. So, gum is one. I can't live without gum. Really? For soccer. So, like I'll go through. probably three or four pieces of gum a. game. And if I am going on the field and I. don't have gum in my mouth, like I'll. throw a tantrum. Like I'm a diva. Like I. need gum. That's the one thing. Screw water. I need gum.

Wait, what kind of gum? Um. anything peppermint. Spearmint, I it can. die. No. Yeah. What else? I have to sit. in the same spot on the bus on the way. to the game every single time. I have to. stand in the same spot for warm-up. behind my girl Hera. Um there's so many things. I have to. have a at home games, I have to make a. peanut butter and jelly sandwich in the. locker room. Mhm. Red Bull's essential Yep. for energy and psychotic behavior in the.

locker. So many things. You know the locker room. before games, like is feral. Like And. there are some people that are so chill. and quiet and then there are the people. that are rowdy. Are you rowdy? Do you. want to answer that? No. Um yeah, I'm the person that the chill. ones hate because we have the people in. our locker room that have their. headphones on. They're stretching. They're down, they're not talking to. anybody. And I'm bouncing like a crazy person. around the locker room. I'm like trying. to take their headphones off. I'm like, "Come on! Come on!".

So, yeah, I'm the annoying person and I. just can't help it. I can't be chill for. a game cuz like I said earlier, it just. psychs me out more and I get nervous and. I'm like, "If I'm just on 10 the entire. time, you can't be scared." No, I was. the same way. Like I would be the person. just like talking and I wouldn't shut. the [ __ ] up. And everyone be like, "Cooper, go sit in your [ __ ] locker. room." And I'm like, "I don't want to. sit in my locker. And what? Like think. about what's about to happen? I'd rather. not.". Manifest? No, absolutely no, never. So, I pretend.

I'm like about to like go out for a fun. night. Like I'm not thinking straight. Cuz then the people that are meditating, you're like, "My god, you have like a. really strong brain and I don't want to. be a part of that energy.". couldn't relate. Like what are we. meditating about? What are we thinking? What's on the brain? There's never. Obviously, especially during the Olympics, like the. entire world was talking about you. Everyone knows your name. And I think. aside from your talent, I think a lot of. people in media, press, on social media, a lot of people wanted to hear you talk.

about and wanted to ask you. about your dad. Um for those of the daddy gang that. don't know in my audience, your father. Yeah. Daddy gang, let me know. What's a dad? Cut that. Cut that. What's a dad? You. let's just kick it right off. You're. like, "What is a father? Let me know.". Um your dad is Dennis Rodman. He's one. of the most famous basketball players of. all time. He played alongside Michael. Jordan. He had a very controversial. career. He was known for crazy partying,

hooking up with women, getting in. trouble on and off the court. And you. have never really talked about what was. going on in your family behind the. scenes. And today, we're going to get. into it. What made you feel ready? Oh. gosh. I think Well, just a warning, I laugh a. lot when I'm trying to like talk. something serious. Okay. So, I think with the dad situation.

in terms of like what I've filtered and. what I've talked about, I feel like me and my brother have been. very generous with the way that we've. talked about it and very unselfish. I. think we never want to make him look. bad. And that is at the cost of kind of. holding in a lot and a lot of issues. that we've gone through and just like. trauma per se. Yeah. So, I don't know. I. just feel like I've been in a place of. going through interviews where people.

are like, "Oh, was your dad there? Like, what's your dad feeling?" And I feel. like I've tried to make it obvious that. I don't know. I don't know how he's feeling. I don't. know where he is. Like, so. for my own sanity, getting those questions, it frustrates me cuz I'm like, I don't. want to blame the interviewers of like, "Okay, you don't deep dive into my. life." But at the same time I've made it. clear that he's not present. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess this is my opportunity to. kind of talk more.

I don't want to say negatively, but more. realistically about it. Yeah, but I can imagine like I feel like. I've sat down with so many people and. it's like it's tough when you're trying. to protect someone that yes, whether you. love or you don't or whatever your. dynamic is, like it's your dad and there. there everyone has a very specific idea. of your father, but none of us are his. children, right? Like we have an idea of. what we saw on a Netflix special and. what we watched back in the day if. you're watching his games, but you have. a lived breath experience of this man as.

your father that people are looking I. think in a glamorized way for you to. talk like, "What's it like Dennis. Rodman's your dad? This is so cool." And. you're literally like, "Um, next. question." So, I think it's fair for you. to talk about your life in a realistic. way because you are also a public figure. and you are famous in your own right. now. And so, you're allowed to speak. about your experience. Let's go back to. the beginning. Call Her Daddy is brought. to you by eBay. This is what you do when. you have high standards and fancy all. the fancy things, like a Dior saddle bag.

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people love. We're going to go back to. the beginning. Where did you grow up and. what was your hometown like? Okay. Well, I grew up in Newport Beach, which uh as. everyone kind of knows, it's a very. wealthy area. And I loved growing up in Newport. It. was amazing, beautiful place, but. growing up in a wealthy place when you. don't have money is a different. struggle, and I think. that was really difficult for me, my. mom, and my brother.

just because we were going to the. schools where everyone had money and it. was like, we're going to school, like in. high school, I was sharing a room with. my mom, which is like crazy. So, it's. like just the little things of being a. normal. high school or a middle school or where. you're like, you want to invite friends. over, but it's like. not that I'm embarrassed of the way that. I grew up, but at the time it was like, I don't want to invite friends over. I. don't want them to know I sleep with my. mom. Like, just like little stuff like. that. So,

growing up in Newport was. good, but hard because. I don't know, like keeping up with the. Joneses. I feel like that was kind of a. struggle of like people knew that we. didn't have money, but it was more so. like, how do we look not completely. broke. during that time? So, yeah, with like soccer and everything, we got help a lot from one of my club. coaches, Greg Baker. He kind of set me. up and helped me. Thank God I was. talented, or else I don't know where I.

would be, but he helped me and he. gave me those opportunities that I. wouldn't have had because I couldn't pay. for certain things. So, a lot of things. we worked for, but also. in a way were handed just cuz we were. talented, so that did help, but yeah, especially with sports. It was very. difficult to like travel and go to. hotels and do these away trips when we. didn't have the money to stay at these. like Marriotts. Like we were at like. Holiday Inn. Like that's what we could. afford, so. it was just hard cuz I would then find.

teammates with is it okay if like I. come, and then my mom couldn't come. sometimes, and it was just. interesting. Like we were trying like we. did the best at being humble and being. grateful for everything, but at the same time it was really hard. even just like after school like out of. cookie truck. I'd be like, "Mom, can I. have a dollar for this cookie?" Like one. time. And I know that sounds horrible, but. that has made me, I feel like, more humble now. Experiencing that, being in a wealthy area and not having. it. We made it through and we're great.

people, and like it worked out, so. Going back though, like okay, you. talking about growing up in Newport, and. I agree. I feel like. people that aren't obviously from. California, but I feel like you hear. about it, or even you like watch the. show The O.C. in Orange County and. Newport. Like there's such extreme. wealth. How do you think you growing up. and not having money impacted you like. as a kid in your personality? Like were. you shy? Were you reserved? Were you. loud? Like what what kind of kid were.

you? Um yeah, I think naturally I've. always been a more outgoing person, especially when you get to know me, but. I definitely think. not having. money to do certain things. changed the way that I was with people. cuz I wasn't as confident. And I also. couldn't go to things that people were. going to. It was like, "Oh, do you want. to go even just going to like fast food. and chilling in the parking lot?" I was. like, "No, I don't have money to go to. In-N-Out right now or to go to Krispy.

Kreme." Like I And it was embarrassing. to be like, "Hey, I don't have money." So, I think yeah, through. even now like I have a really close. friend from middle school that I'm still. friends with and that's like probably my. one friend from middle school and then. my friend from high school. Um so, that's like my two friends and. those are the only people I hung out. with. And even. through high school I went to a private. school for 1 year. I was like eating. lunch in the bathroom sometimes because. me and my brother didn't have the same.

lunch and he was like my person. So, like growing up I would have all his. same teachers. Like I was a year after. him. So, I would just follow in his. footsteps every single time. That's was. annoying because he was really good in. school and I was horrible. So, it was. like they loved DJ and like hated me. But yeah, it was we didn't have the same. lunch. So, I was like didn't have. friends to sit with. So, I like lunch. would happen. I didn't have money to pay. for it at school. So, then it was like. the bell rings and it's like, "Fuck, what do I do? Where do I go?" Like. uh do I go to a teacher's room? Do I.

just like stay in the cafeteria and act. like I'm just like talking to people. that I'm not even friends with? Like it was so bizarre. But do you think. you weren't making friends cuz you were. just trying to like hide? Like it's not. or were people literally not liking you. because they knew of your socioeconomic. status? Both cuz I feel like it went both way It. was weird cuz for my brother. I feel like in the earlier years it was. harder for him to have friends, but as. it went on it was so easy. Like when we. went to high school together, he had so. many friends, and like that's who I was.

going to. Um and then. for me, it was completely different. So, it's just weird, and you know, like. girls are very catty. Yes. And like. clicky, and I felt like I had come late. Like everyone had started freshman year. I got there sophomore year, so. I had some soccer friends, but the vibes. were just different. Like we were. friends for soccer, but then in school, it was like, okay, not the same thing. Yeah. So, I don't know if it was just. like people already had their cliques, and I was just like. too shy to be like desperate and like.

try to push my way into certain groups, and I'm just not that person. Like if. I'm feeling you're not feeling me, then. I'm I'd rather sit in the bathroom. You're like, peace. Um yeah, so I think it's a mixture, which was unfortunate, but now looking. back, it's like funny. Cuz all those. people are texting me now, and it's. like, hmm. Of course. Interesting. Uh-huh, go [ __ ] yourselves. Yeah. Um. how old were you when your parents got. divorced? Oh gosh. Um Google, help. I think. I think you were like two. I feel like I. was dealing with it even when I was like.

old enough to remember it. But I don't know. It dragged on for many. years. Do you remember like how did you. see that affect your mom of like this. divorce dragging on for so many years? I. mean, obviously I cannot speak for her. experiences because she I feel like she. didn't even really have time to think. about it just because she had to deal. with me and my brother and my sister. That girl. Anyway, um I think. my mom was dealing with a lot of [ __ ]. from my dad for so long, and.

divorce was just like a name. That that. was that ship had sailed for the longest. time, and she knew that. We knew that. And it really was like before the. divorce happened, my dad was actually helping money-wise, so that was the difference of like he. would actually give money to my mom and. let us kind of live life a a bit. But then as when the divorce happened, it was just like, "Fuck you guys. Like, we're not getting enough money to We're. getting enough money to pay rent, barely.".

And then we were just I don't even know. how we made it work, but somehow. we were making it happen, and. it was just crazy. When you say that. your mom would you kind of knew that. like that ship had sailed, like your mom. had been dealing with so much? Like, how. did your mom talk about your dad and his. absence to you and your siblings? My mom. was really good at making every. situation seem smoother than it actually. was, and I think that's what parents do. to protect their children, but.

yeah, I think. even being young, it was like. he partied all the time. He has this. beach house in Newport or Huntington or. what wherever, and I was like, "We tried. to live with him, but he's having. parties 24/7. He's bringing. random [ __ ] in." Like, my mom didn't. want. She was strong enough to deal with it, because. even to this day I still believe that. my dad. hasn't loved anyone after my mom. Like, I genuinely believe that. I think he. doesn't know how to. I think they both felt the same way.

about each other, but it just. his demons were just too strong for it, but. yeah, I think my mom just saw the. situation of. "We love each other. It's not going to. work, and for my kids, I can't have them. seeing you. treat me this way, embarrass me this. way, and have the party scene all the. time. You have little babies." Yeah. So, yeah. Do you have any recollection of. like. watching them fight in front of each. other like in front of you?

Um. I don't really remember so much younger, and I feel like. me and my brother were very oblivious to. it. But then once we got older, when he was. in our lives less, and we were seeing. him once, two, three, four times a year, every time they were together it was. like. it was the same [ __ ] It was my mom. being valid and what the [ __ ] are you. doing? Like help us and help your. children. And he was just like, "Oh, you.

just use me for my money, blah blah. blah." And even then it was like. that was all the fight was ever about in. front of us at least. It was just the. money part and helping your children. And even then it was my dad he likes to. be. in control. So like he would take us. shopping, get us phones, do this, do. that. Oh, I'm going to take you and your. brother shopping. And me and my brother. are like. we don't want to go shopping. We don't. want to go shopping. We just want money to go get In-N-Out. after school with our friends. So it was.

like he wouldn't give us money to do. that. He needed to have the control of. bringing us shopping and swiping his own. card. But if we asked, "Hey, could we. have a hundred to like go get food, go. go to Claire's, get my ears pierced?". Like just little stuff like that, he was. like, "No. You're using me. You're. trying like all this stuff.". I think that's what's probably so. confusing even hearing you talk about. this. Like I think a lot of people would. assume because you're Dennis Rodman's. daughter money wasn't an issue for you. growing up. But that obviously wasn't. the case. Do you know why after the.

divorce like he would not pay child. support? I think that it was kind of. like that's not my problem anymore. And. I don't even know. To try to justify his. brain is so hard because. even now I genuinely believe he's still. in love with my mom because he'll call. me randomly and be like, "How's your mom. doing?" Like even before he asked how. I'm doing. So. whenever we would see each other he was. always just like. almost trying to get my mom to fall in. love with him again so that it could be.

a family thing even if it was toxic. But. I think once it was a divorce it was. like all right, like you this is on you. Like. Yeah. I know you said like you were. sleeping in a bed with your mom. Like. what was one of the worst circumstances. living-wise that you and your siblings. had to go through during your childhood? It was I'm like smiling about it because. it was the best and worst situation, if.

that makes sense. So, we had an. Expedition. and we kind of lived in that for a. little bit. Mind you, in Newport Beach. An Expedition. Like a car. Yeah. Okay. Like Newport Beach, we're going to. I think this is when we were at What is. it? Ensign, by Newport Harbor. So, we. were still in Newport. So, imagine. living in a car going to like a rich. school. Like it's the most weird thing. But we were living in a car, but then we. could afford to stay in a motel for a. little bit. So, we were kind of back and.

forth like what nights we could pay for, how many nights we could pay for. But. I'm saying it's the best because me and. my brother. my mom. is obviously like prideful and like she. never wants to be looked at that way of. like not being able to provide for her. kids. So, like my mom's like, "I'm sorry. that like we had to do that. I'm sorry. that you had to go through that." But me. and my brother are just like, "What? That was so much fun." Like as a kid, we. lived in a motel and our routine every. morning, we would make those waffles in. the waffle machine in the motel. breakfast like before school. And then.

we'd go in my mom would let us go into. the hot tub and the pool. So, like this is all pre-school. like fun stuff in the morning. So, this. is like us getting up 6:30 7:00 a.m. Making our waffles, jumping in the pool, chilling in the hot tub, playing, being. like best friends, and then showering, getting dressed, and then we would drive to school. in this like beat-up Expedition when. everybody else is in like Rolls-Royces. and Range Rovers and all that stuff. But. for me and GG it was never. it was like never embarrassing in the.

weirdest way. It was. weird. and we knew that we were kind of like. the odd men out Yeah, in a sense, but we. never ever would like rush out of the. car, like be like, "Mom, pick us up over. here." Or like, it was never like that. So, yeah, going back, long story short, it's like worst and best situation cuz. me and my brother look back and we're. like, "That was so fun." In the weirdest. way. How long do you think you lived No. it you lived in a car for? It wasn't that long. We were in that. motel for months.

But again, it was fun. Even as an adult, like I'm like, "That was fun." And I. also think that's such a testament to. your mom, right? Because I think as you. get older and you start to recognize. like the reality of life, the fact that you guys were able to see. those moments as just genuinely so. joyful, like your mom was protecting you. in such a beautiful way and you have. these like awesome memories. That's such. a testament to your mother. Yeah, it's.

crazy. And I mean, she's not like she. had an easy childhood. Like she didn't. have a father figure, either. So, I. mean, she Yeah, she went through her own. struggles while. somehow making our life extremely fun. being broke, which is insane because. everything costs money. So, how do you. have fun? And but. It's just weird. you think you were like you never found. yourself ever resentful of your. situation? No. That's amazing. Never. resentful. Obviously, there were times. where it was like. our friends would be doing stuff and we. couldn't go. Yeah. Or like we just didn't want to go.

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doing research, I was looking like when. you were 9 years old, your dad was. getting inducted into the Hall of Fame. And when I'm listening to you talk right. now, I'm like, okay, you're 9. So many. things happened. It's crazy. Right? Like I'm like, hold on. This man. is on a stage getting inducted into the. Hall of Fame. and where are you when you're 9? No, and. that's the crazy part is it's like. we still were going to those events. Like we were just a happy little family. like getting dressed, getting styled, like his jersey retirement, all those.

things that we attended to. While we're like not financially Like it. was just the weirdest thing cuz it was. like we did things for him and we've. always done things for him. It's like. he wanted to have a good image of having. his family by him. And we were like, yeah, we'll go. So exciting. Like. So at that point in your life, just to. try to get an understanding, throughout. like I would say your first like. 15 years of life, let's say, how often. would you see your dad? When we were younger, it was more. Okay.

Way more. And then I think as we got older and. understood the situation more, my mom. became stronger in the situation. That's when it was less. And I I would. say by the time we were in. I'll say like. seventh grade. until even now, it was. three, four times a year. Okay. When we lived in the same city. And did. you ever live with him? When we were. really young. But that's when we were. like right after we were born. Yeah.

But that wasn't that long cuz my mom was. over the party and she was just like, "We're getting a divorce.". Yeah. In his acceptance speech, he said. the one thing he regretted was not being. a better father. You just rolled your. eyes. Yeah, cuz it's just like. Do I believe him? Yeah, I do believe that he wishes that. he could fight his demons. I roll my eyes because it's like you. hear something so many times, but he.

does nothing to change it. Yeah. And it's like, "I wish I was a better. dad." He said that in so many. interviews. Like I could pull them up. Yeah. And it's like, "Okay.". Yeah. something. And it I think with the most. frustrating part about it is is I think. with how successful he was and how rich. he was, he was surrounded by a lot of toxic. people who would take his money and take. advantage of him and cuz he was in. alcohol, he was kind of brainwashed and all that. He didn't really have control over. anything. I don't know. That was just.

So, I think again, the rolling eyes. comes from we tried to be that. foundation and to be the good people. around him because in reality, like. we never really asked for anything. unless we really needed it. Like me, my. mom, and my brother, it was like, "We. just want you.". And I don't I think for him, he's never. understood the fact cuz he's never. experienced it. He's had messed up. family issues as well. He's never understood that people could. actually just want to be around him and. to just want to like make him happy.

He's always thinking money money money. money when it's like. No. Yeah, like what a horrible situation. where you're like wait no dad like we. yes we're coming to you for money cuz. we're literally living in a [ __ ] car. but we also want you but he's so. paranoid of whatever's going on in his. life that he can't like accept what you. guys are trying to give him and so it's. like this cat and mouse game where you. guys feel like you're constantly being. rejected but you're coming with the best. intentions. Yeah, and it's just hard cuz.

it's like even now I'm like trying to be. honest about it and I'm still giving him. sympathy which is like frustrating for. me because. in reality I think he's an extremely. selfish human being. I think. everything has always been about him. He's gone through [ __ ] but at the same. time I'm like he loves the spotlight. He. loves the cameras. He loves bringing his. children on stage and being like oh. these are my kids like. all that stuff and even like the mind. I haven't Oh, I've been cussing. That's.

new for me. I was going to say the mind [ __ ] but. like. of him like for me emotionally he's. put me through like oh my gosh like. even just him not talking to me for. months months and months and then he. randomly calls and he's like hey like. I'm thinking of doing a TV show reality. TV show you want to join? I'm just like. whoa. So like that's the part where I. have so much anger towards it of like. why have I been so nice about someone. who's so selfish? And that's the thing.

with our entire family is like. you said it in the beginning of like us. protecting him when he's never once. protected us. He's almost made it worse. because he has put us in the public. light at a young age. So. I guess it's just like the anger that I. haven't really been able to let out is. like. difficult for me. Yeah, but I feel like. hearing you say this like I've had. people sit in that exact chair and it's. like [ __ ] up dynamics with parents is. so complicated because at the end of the. day they're still your parent and.

there's like almost a brainwash you. experience of like you still want their. love, you still want their validation, you still want them to like you, you. still want him to like come to your. games and think you're great and like. see how great you're doing, but at the. same time you also want to be like [ __ ]. you, you've never done anything for us. Like what and it's like this battle of I. get why I wouldn't expect anything other. than you sitting here and going back and. forth of like trying to protect him cuz. you've never spoken about this. So I. want to give you grace also of like.

you're doing great because you are doing. a really great job of explaining this. like hard push and pull you have cuz. it's your dad. Yeah. And that's like. what you're saying is like the weirdest. thing cuz even when I'm like. even like going through a season where. you're just like damn, I'm just so over. this like I just want to go home and. sleep. In moments like that I'm like damn, I. wish I could just get a hug from my dad. When I don't even have that connection. with him like when he showed up at my. game, I was like so mad. Yeah, can we talk.

about that for a second? saw him, yeah. I kind of already started. talking about everything, but. It's okay. Yeah, he showed up to my. game. My mom had no idea until he was. like there and I think she got a call or. something. But they were in the suite. field side. And I again, going in my. rookie year, going into a quarterfinal. Like I'm already [ __ ] my pants as it. is. Like I'm like stressed like oh my. gosh, like we have to win. We go, I'm playing. I think it's like. halfway through the first half. And I hear it.

And like his voice to me is like. So I hear him go, "Let's go, Rodman. Let's go, Trinity." And I'm like, "Oh my. [ __ ] gosh. Like there's no way this. is happening right now." Mind you, I. haven't seen him in or talked to him in. months, months. So I hear it and I'm like, I'm playing a. game. Not like uh throwing nothing. Like. I'm playing a game and I hear I'm. running. I'm like, oh my gosh. So then I'm still playing and I'm like. there's no way. I'm like chasing the. ball down trying to figure out a goal. kick happens, right? I'm defending a.

goal kick. And I'm like in my stance kind of and I. look back and I'm like, what the [ __ ] I. look straight and I like start crying on. the field. So I'm trying to play the. soccer game and I'm I'm crying. And I don't know if we got a water. break. I think there was like an injury. or water break. Yeah, cuz we go into the. huddle. and I go to Ashley Sanchez, which is. like. one of my best friends. Go to her in the. huddle while our coach is trying to give. us direction of like what's working, what's not working cuz like we were. playing horrible the first half. I'm looking at Ash, I'm crying. No one. knows what the [ __ ] going on. I'm.

looking at Ash and I'm like, dude, my. dad's here. And she knew immediately. She was like, oh [ __ ] She gave me a. hug. She was like, it's okay. Let's just. finish this half. Like we'll talk in the. locker room at halftime. Just finish. this half. Don't think about it. I was. like, sure, let me just forget. Yeah. Classic. Easy advice. Um so yeah, I finished that half and. then cry my eyes out in the locker room. at halftime. And my coach was like, do. you want do you want to play? And I was. like, yeah. I want to win. Hello? I'm like, he's not going to take me from. winning this either. [ __ ].

Um so yeah, we finished the game. Were. you able to like play well? Yeah. So I. took the shot, ricocheted back, and. Hatch scored it for us to win. Yeah, you. did. That's awesome. Um and then after the game, when we were. winning, there's that part in your head where. like the whistle's going to blow, the. whistle's going to blow. And all I was. thinking was like, oh my god, I'm going. to see him. I'm going to talk to him. Like what's going to happen? The whistle. blew and I was so. like mad. I was like, you took this. happy moment from me. Like you [ __ ] with. my head again. And he did it so many.

times and I don't even know. No, I think he knows what he does. But. when the game ended, I was so angry. I. was happy we won, but I was just like. And then I started getting mad at my mom. cuz I was like, she had to have known. Why didn't she tell me like all this. stuff? And then I walk over. and again there's cameras everywhere. Dennis Rodman's at the game, blah blah. blah. And I walk over there and all I did was. cry. I was like, I'm walking over there. so mad like, [ __ ] you. I walk over. there, he grabs my head and I just start. bawling into his arms as if like it's a. daddy-daughter like.

And I'm just like, this is the first. game you come to, quarterfinal. You. missed the entire season, haven't seen. my games in three, four, five years. And I'm just like bawling. I was I cried and then I was super. happy. I was like. let's take the positive of it. He's. here. Like that's more than I can ask. So then we go into like this friends and. family part after. We're like talking, whatever. He's asking me how. everything's going. It's like. Honestly, like a. pretty wholesome thing. Like, oh my. gosh, imagine. So we're just like. talking, catching up and then.

I don't remember how it was left. I. think I just went home because I had. training the next day. And we just kind of left it at that and. he was just like, I want to see you. soon. I'm in DC, whatever. And I was. like, okay. And then after that, radio silence. I I. didn't see him for like. until this year. I didn't talk to him or see him. Yeah, until I think. No. Yeah, right after World Cup. Wait, how many years ago was this? Three.

So you This is 2021. So that happens in 2021 and And I'm. talking to media. I put out this huge. post like, we're not perfect. I love my. dad like, this could be the start of. something new. Like I know, blah blah. blah. Like being super nice about it. like, just grateful that he even showed. up. I'm like, I don't know what it has. in store, but I'm just happy that we got. to have this moment together. Stupid me for thinking that was going to. be some type of like new spark cuz that. was me every single time. He would come. around and I'd be like, okay, here it is.

again. We're going to start something. He's going to be around. Boom, months. and months and months. This time was. years and I was just like, okay, cool. And so then it's like after that, then. it's media outlets asking about the. post, asking about him being there. So. I'm like super positive. I'm just like, yeah, like obviously it was really. emotional. I'm really happy. Months and. months go by, I'm still talking about it. on media and I'm just like, [ __ ]. Here we go again. So then it was just like, I think after. that was when I lost hope in like ever. getting him back. It was just going to. be like a. he's popping in whenever he wants to be.

in a camera. And even. at that game, I don't think it was for. me. I think he wanted to have a good. conscious conscience and then be like, headline, Dennis Rodman showed up to his. daughter's game, an important. quarterfinal in her rookie year. And. that's exactly what it was. That's what. I was going to say. Like I went and. looked at that Instagram post and it. like my heart sank for you because. obviously like I knew somewhat of the. conversation we were going to have. today, but I had obviously no idea of. like the gravity of it. And it's so.

disheartening because you're right, like. you walking over to him in that moment, it was all about the cameras. You. couldn't have a normal reaction to be. like, where the [ __ ] have you been? And. like you would saying you're on the. field angry and then you don't get to. have a normal moment with your father. where a normal person could go up and be. like, what the [ __ ] Instead it's like. everyone smile for the cameras and be. happy and then before you even get to. have like a debrief the next day, like. he's gone. Can you talk to me about like didn't he.

like always change his phone numbers? Yeah, even now. Like I don't have his. number saved. I think he. cuz he had called me like even these. past couple weeks. he's been trying to call me and I was. just a Texas number. Didn't know he. lived in Texas. So that's news to me. So. I'm just thinking it's like spam risk, like all this stuff and I'm like, okay, they're just like spam calls, like. normal. I get those all the time. So I. was ignoring it and then I see like. voicemails from it and I'm like. then I look and and hear it for a. second. I was like, [ __ ] And I think I. heard it for a second cuz I saw that the. voicemail was 40 seconds long. I was.

like, "Nah, I'm not doing that." And. it's just like a hit-or-miss day for me. It's like if I want to go through that. or not, and I'm just like, "No." Why is. he always changing his phone number? I. don't know if it's changing or losing. his phones or what, but again, he never. has an iPhone. He always has a flip. phone, and I honestly think he'll just. like trash them and get new ones. Of him. calling you in like in moments. throughout your life in those moments. where you're like, "Sometimes I have the. patience, sometimes I don't." Is there. any time he like called you that you. remember and it like really [ __ ] with. you? Whether you were like about to go. into a specific event in your life, or.

you were in a specific situation and he. calls and you like were like, "This. completely [ __ ] me up and ruined my. day." Kind of like the game. Yeah, I think it [ __ ] me up every. single time. Even I think now hearing his voice is. like painful. Because I think it's missing him. mixed with. he's an alcoholic. And again, that's something that I don't. want to say, but I'm just like, "Fuck. it." Like it's just the truth and like. hearing. even the past 5 years, hearing the.

difference in the way that his sentences. go together, and now I'm like like I genuinely keep. think- I'm like, "He's gone." Like it. feels like he's gone. And like hearing him talk, I'm just. like, like. I answer the phone now for like my. conscience to be like, "If something. does happen, God forbid, Yeah. I want to. know that like I did that." Or if he. needed to hear my voice before anything. happens. Like that's why I answer the. phone, not for me. But then I answer the phone.

and I have that conversation and I hear. the way he's talking and how. gone and. drunk he is, and I'm just like, "That was horrible." Like I'm like, "That did nothing for me." Like. if something were to happen, if I would. have had that phone call and if I. wouldn't have, I would have felt the. same way. Well, that's what But you saying that. and I feel like there's a lot of people. listening that can probably relate to. having someone in their life that. struggles with alcohol or substance. abuse. And it's like the point you just. hit on, which I think is so.

debilitating, and it keeps you kind of. like a captive, because it's like you're. held captive to your dad because the. thought is if this is his last moment, and he's calling me, and he wants to. hear my voice. So, there's a world where. you're going to pick up every [ __ ]. time cuz you're so [ __ ] scared. Living for somebody else, essentially. Like living to make someone else happy. Have you. Have you figured out any form of. boundaries that you has worked, or no? It's hard to make boundaries when he's. like it's a rare occurrence. Like if he. were say calling me randomly every.

single week, okay, cool. But it's like so random that I'm like, you don't know when the next phone call. is going to come, so it's like, what is. a boundary? What is the closest you've. ever had. with your father of like a. heart-to-heart, somewhat scratching the surface of like, this is why he is the way he is. Like, has he ever spoken about his struggle. with alcohol to you and tried to explain. his behavior? No, but I think. not with the alcohol.

With loving people, he's talked to me. and my mom about of just the lack of. love that he's received Okay. from his. parents. or his dad relationship. is. kind of translates into. how he loves other people. Cuz he loved my mom. I do not question. that, she does not question that. He. treated her like [ __ ]. So, it's just weird, and it's like to. me, even after everything I said, he. treats me the best. I'm like still his.

little princess, and I can't do any. wrong. He, growing up, he treated my brother. like [ __ ] too. Said, "Fuck you, you're. not good enough. What are you doing with. basketball? You're not la la la.". And that's, yeah, that's touching on a. whole different thing with the hate that. my brother gets being in the same sport. Like I don't even. people and the insensitivity with that. It's like you're never as good as your. dad, all this stuff. It's like he. doesn't have to be. And also, he's not. around. And I think too, I'm like just.

blabbering. No, you're doing great. But. that's also another thing of like. that's the most he's talked to me about. in terms of like loving my brother, the. like the man-to-man thing. He doesn't know how to father in. general, but especially to it. Like he. doesn't know how to show that. Like with. me and my mom, he could at least hug us. Like he knows how to do that. He doesn't. know how to do that with my brother. And. that's just I mean caused a lot of. issues with my brother's confidence and. obviously hearing your dad say like. you're not good enough, all this stuff.

And it's like too, like playing with. Bronny. It's like you see Bronny and you. see LeBron. And it's like that is. picture-perfect, like holy. So, even that is just a whole another. thing for my brother and I don't want to. speak for him. I'm sure when he's ready, if he's ever ready to talk about that. that's just. another thing that my dad doesn't. realize he's affected so much of our. like day-to-day. Yeah. Like the reason my brother gets hate for. basketball is cuz of him. And I think. like we would all I agree with you when.

you're talking about the LeBron and. Bronny situation, but like I think we. would all be idiots if we didn't think. to ourselves like. damn, that's [ __ ] hard for that kid. Like that looks great, but even that is. so [ __ ] hard. So, imagine your. brother. Yeah, I don't not Yeah, I did not mean. to make that sound like a walk in the. park. I'm validating what you're saying of. like it looks like wow, look how great. that is. But it's like even that one can. imagine how difficult that is of like. being the son of LeBron James. You're. like damn, this is hard. And like but.

the fact that LeBron is embracing his. kid being like come with me, let you. show you around. It's like your brother, and I agree, like not to speak for him, but I can only imagine the hurt it feels. to have a passion that is essentially. like constantly stripped of you because. you're being constantly compared to your. dad when what your guys are really. talking about you're like, I don't want. to be [ __ ] compared to him. Yeah, and. that's yeah, 100% and yeah, the Bronny. and LeBron stuff like I've seen the hate. that Bronny gets too. It's unbelievable. to to try to live up to being the goat.

of LeBron James. But yeah, I think with. my brother it's just You're never. enough. Like it's sad and like no one can tell. him. that he's enough because. the one person that he wants to say is. enough. Yeah, yeah. So it's yeah, it's tough. Were you hesitant to talk about the real. situation with your dad because of the. hype around the Rodman name? Like do you think people are going to. still like not not believe what you're.

saying today, but do you think people. will still downplay it cuz it's like Cuz. I I also think people look at us like, oh poor poor me. Like we're just trying. to like get a check or like, oh pity. story try to like create this thing, but. I think. yeah, they're always I think there's a. lot of times where there's it's always. going to be like everyone on my dad's. side like. when. for like Father's Day. Like that day is. shitty for people that don't have father. figures. So for us like our. coping mechanism for it was posting our.

mom. Like happy Father's Day, thanks for. being both. And that was that's no. disrespect to the father figures. Like. still a day to celebrate dads and. fathers. But for us that's our dad. That's our. mom and our dad in the weirdest way and. even just comments like that like don't. disrespect him like that. It's like. that's not disrespect. He's not a dad. Right. He's a person, he's not a dad. Maybe by blood, but nothing else. Yeah, do I it feel almost feels like. people are like frustrated that you. speaking about what he was like as a dad. is going to threaten his legacy as a.

basketball player. Which is so [ __ ]. Yeah. How do you think talking about this. today is going to affect you and like. impact the way you approach interviews. moving forward? I'm just like not going. to give a [ __ ] honestly. Like that's. how I feel though, cuz I watch. interviews back and I'm like, "Ew, why. does she Why do I look so scared? Like. this is like my story." Right. And like. there are times where it gets brought up. where I'm just like, "Yeah, like. yeah, he's like I know he's proud of. me." Like and I'm like, "Ew.".

Like just say how you feel. And even. sometimes I wish I like when people ask, "Oh, like is he going to come to one of. the Olympic games?" I don't know. And other like I'll dodge it and I'll be. like, "Oh, like my mom's going to be. here. I'm going to give her a hug." And. I'm like, "Great answer.". From a from a PR team. Perfect answer. Right? She Like in reality, like You don't. know. Not to be a diva, but I'm just like I. want to be like, "I don't know." Yeah. "How am I supposed to know?". Like and that's it. That's that's the.

end. True. You make me feel. uncomfortable, I'm going to make you. feel uncomfortable. And I feel like I've. been so comfortable being uncomfortable. and I'm just done. You're [ __ ] done. Obviously, there's been like I think the. rise of your career has been [ __ ]. incredible, Trinity. Like you're so. [ __ ] talented in your own right and I. can imagine moments like this where you. are having this like Olympic run and. your name is everywhere and yes, you're. sitting there and people are asking you.

like, "Oh, is your Is your dad going to. come and is your dad going to see the. game?" And it's like, "Why can't I just. be enough?" How has your relationship. with your dad affected. your love life? You know what's funny. about this is that like I literally just. figured out what it affected. Like I. would say a week ago. What? What did it affect? Um I think. my. love language is. affection and like physical touch, but I. think that's because.

I never got that from my dad and I never. got that type of love, and because of. that. he didn't show that to my brother. either. So, my brother's very similar to. my dad in the way that he loves. Like, he's I don't want to say cold, but he's. not a lovey-dovey, squishy person in a. relationship. So, I don't get that from. my brother or my dad. So, I think. the way that I am in relationships, I. don't want to say high maintenance, but. I think. the top priority for me is like feeling. wanted and feeling like I want to be.

pulled in for a hug all the time. Like, I don't want to pass you in the living. room and for you to not want to. touch my butt or like kiss me on the. cheek or like just do something. Right. I know people can relate to that, but I. genuinely feel like that has made me. crazy. I love you. Okay, wait. Did you have any. relationships where you started to be. like, "Fuck, I need to figure my [ __ ]. out in the past" cuz like we've all had. [ __ ] up relationships romantically? Like, did you see any of your family.

trauma seeping into your relationships. that you can share with people maybe. that have similar situation to you? Yeah. I think. my first relationship, I think obviously. first relationships are always like kind. of a what is love? What are we doing? Yeah. Um I think then I was extremely. insecure in myself. And I kind of let. the person walk all over me in a sense, but.

again, I don't regret any relationship. I think they've all helped me so much, and I'm still cordial with like everyone. that I've been with, but. I put up with a lot because I didn't. have validation. So, I feel like it's. done a 360 now, but I would say I was. really insecure and let a lot of [ __ ]. slide back then. Like what? Like hanging. out with. the boys, right? Love that sentence, right? Right? Ooh, being with the boys. Okay, [ __ ]. off.

But, it'd be like hanging out with the. boys and I'd be like, "Damn, I wanted to. hang out with you tonight." And. happens. and then there's like 10 girls there. I'm your girlfriend. What do What do you mean? And those are. also not. the boys. So, just something like that and even. that was the weirdest thing. It was that. my brother was best friends with him. So, my brother was there. So, it was a a. push and pull with him of like that's my. best friend, but you're My sister's. crying all the time. My sister is crying all the time. My. sister is sobbing. Get it together. I.

learned a lot from that relationship. I. think that was great and like. even with that, we were still like best. friends in the weirdest way, but I. learned a lot. of things of like I'm not taking that. [ __ ] And I think that then helped me in. my next relationship of like I felt most. confident in my next relationship and. then it was a different struggle of like. I'm so confident and I'm so happy that. now I'm like too reliant on this. relationship. And now I'm like isolating. myself from everybody else because I'm.

like. addicted to the feeling that he's giving. me, like the the love and affection and. like you're beautiful and all this. stuff. So, that was just another issue. that I had to work through. Well, I was. going to say too, I feel like a big. theme throughout our conversation of. like talking about your growing up and. talking about your relationship with. your father. Like there has been a lot. of instability in the way that he. communicates with you and his actions. Like you even saying like the drinking. problem. Like I remember I wrote down. like.

at one point your dad. made really had a lot of controversial. moments, obviously, but like the one. where he befriended a dictator in North. Korea. And like. you know, but like it's It's totally not. funny, but like we can laugh. But like. you having to read that about your dad, that is a lot of like one day you don't. hear from him, one day you're reading. something on the news. Like, it that's very like destabilizing to. like your reality of like your everyday. This person pops in or you hear this on. the news that your dad is making friends.

with a dictator in North Korea. Like, how have you learned throughout the. years to just like stabilize your own. reality and like keep your bubble as. safe as you can when all the rest around. you is kind of moving. It's obviously so. it's just so weird. And it's like so. hard not to be hurt by certain things. Like, reading things, getting updates. through media. And then people ask you. and you're like, you probably knew. before I did or you probably honestly. know more than I did. Like, it's.

so so so weird. Or just like little. stuff like. him not being in my life and then like. other people and I'm not throwing shade. at anybody, but like. I remember Angel Reese had wore his. jersey to a game. And then there was a. picture of them. And like obv- like, he. is a really famous basketball player. And like, style-wise, everything. Like, inspiring. But I think as a daughter. seeing that it's like no shade, but it's. like, damn, I wish that was me. Right.

You're like, damn. I wish I was taking a. picture with him. I wish I was wearing. his jersey. Like, when I wear his. jersey, I feel like it's not like, holy. [ __ ] But like, when Angel Reese wears. it, it's like, Angel Reese is wearing Dennis Rodman's. jersey. And like, I think that's like a. a sting to me. And I don't want to sound. like [ __ ] at all because again, statement like, pop off. But for me as. his daughter, it's like. uh, dad, what the hell? Like, it's just. weird. No, it's like. are the things you have to filter. And. it's like, okay, it's fine. It's fine.

It's fine. It's fine. Yeah, but again, I. think it's like I think if I'm taking. anything from this, it's also like, it's. still a work in progress of like, you he. is your biological father. A part of you. is there is parts of him, right? And so. like, you love this person in ways that. you can't describe. And as much as he. hurts you, there's those push and pull. moments where you're like, "Fuck, Dad. Why do you have to be like this?" And. then I also think it's really inspiring. to hear you talk about like how you're. like, "No, I am carving my own path.".

And now, can we just talk about like you. as your own career? Like, you are so. [ __ ] successful. You [ __ ] crush. it. You have a [ __ ]. gold medal on your nightstand that. you're like, "I forgot where it is. Where is it again? Where is it?" Call. Her Daddy is brought to you by Batiste. Dry Shampoo. You guys, I am always. running from a meeting to a dinner, to. an event, and if I'm being honest, I. definitely don't have time to wash my. hair every day, okay? If I'm lucky, I. can maybe wash it like once a week. So, I really rely on Batiste Light Dry.

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Like, how do you [ __ ]. enjoy it for yourself and don't let this. [ __ ] get to you some days? Like, who. do you celebrate with? Who do you talk. to about your success individual of your. dad. I don't know. I feel like it's really. hard to celebrate it in the weirdest. way, like. one, because it's just non-stop all the. time. And like I'm so grateful for every. opportunity, but sometimes I'm just. like, I wish I had a moment to take a. breath and be like, I did that. Like, holy. So,

to say like, who do I celebrate with? I. I don't know. Because I don't think that. I really do. Like obviously, like I I'm happier I'll. watch a clip of like the Olympics, the. gold. I'm like, oh my god. Like, ah. But it's little moments like that. Like. it's just rewatching a clip of. something, but I don't think. genuinely. I really think or celebrate myself. I. think it's more so. especially in interviews and stuff. It's.

like, how proud are you? And it's like, it's such a copy and paste answer. through every interview. It's just like, I'm I can't even find the words. I'm. like a robot. I'm like, I'm I'm so. happy. Like, I like it's indescribable. I'm 22 and have a gold medal. And it's like even in those moments, it's like genuinely deep down, I feel so. proud of myself, but it's so repetitive. and so like robotic that. I can't I don't think of it that way. I'm just like, say it for the media and. like No, but I think that's like really.

[ __ ] relatable. Like I think that's. not like just you. I think that if you. ask a lot of people when they have such. intense success, I think it's so hard to. try to grasp what's happening in the. moment because that would mean you have. to stop and I think you need time to. process as a human being. And I feel. like it sucks in one way, but you also, especially as athletes, it's like you. got to keep [ __ ] going cuz even when. you win, like you said, what did you say. to me at the beginning of this? You.

said, "Oh, I didn't even have time to. celebrate the gold." Cuz what did you go. do? Go play for a freaking championship. I'm. lost. That was annoying. But um Wait, you flew back to America and you played. like a [ __ ] game? played I think less than a week after I. got back. No, that was that that was so. why I lied. Um I think it was like a. week and a half, but I played in the. first game back and it was scored. But still, my legs were on fire and I. was dying. I think women are obviously so. scrutinized in general, but sports. specifically I think has been like a.

huge topic recently in a great way. But. what do you think is the hardest part. about being a female athlete? Oh my. gosh. I know, you're like, "Do you have. 9 hours?". Um. I think. the recognition for one. I think. even just in in conversation it's like, "Oh, who do you play for?" Spirit. They're like, "What's that?" I'm like, "Ugh." Yeah. But I'm like. I don't know. I would say recognition, pay obviously. Like even just being on.

media and it's like obviously NBA, NFL. makes way more money, has way more. viewers. Like not taking that away, but. I think seeing the contracts and then. looking at ours I'm just like [ __ ] I'm. so grateful to be making the money that. I make right now at my age, but I look. and I'm just like. Ugh. It's just like. But also I'd say another big thing is. like. the human aspect of it. Like. I just feel like with male sports with.

men it's like. they're out here. going to concerts, on stage, going to. clubs, going to all this and it's like, "Oh, here this person is at a club drinking. like two nights before a game and it's. just like, okay, normal." But it's like. I feel like me and my teammates will go. out one night on an off weekend and. we're like, we see a camera and we're. like, "Oh my gosh, what if what if our. coach finds out? What if somebody posts. it?" Like and we're not even getting. drunk. Like we're just going to like be. in public and just like feel the vibes.

Yeah, just like feel like something. We're just here to feel something. We're. dead sober. We've had like half of a. cocktail. drinking Red Bull the whole time and I'm. like. Okay. No, but I get what you're saying. It's. like the double standard of like why. can't and it again though like it hasn't. changed though I guess is what we're. also saying. It's like your dad was. known for I watched the Michael Jordan. doc on like the whatever the [ __ ] the. last something. Sorry. Oh my god, all. the people are going to Yeah, the last. dance. Sorry.

Got Thank you. I do know that fact. Yeah, the last dance. And he's on a. flight to Vegas and he comes back and he. shows up in the middle and he's ready. for the game and it's like if women. behaved the same way that men did, it. just you wouldn't be in the position. you're in because we are expected to act. differently and to speak differently in. media and to present ourselves. differently and it's exhausting and. especially when you're getting to see. men act a certain way and get bigger. paychecks like it [ __ ] sucks. It.

sucks. Yeah, it does definitely and I think. Yeah, it's just annoying. It's just annoying. No, but can I say I. do really respect you for sitting down. with me today for a numerous amount of. reasons, but when talking about. the women in sports, I feel like. something that. as someone that used to play but doesn't. play anymore and is now in media like I. think something that can contribute to. the sports growing is this. Is the.

athletes. becoming more well known for who they. are individual of the sport because the. sports are [ __ ] amazing. We love. sports. But who is Trinity Rodman. outside of being on the field? And like. I think that's what gets people so. [ __ ] excited and incentivized on top. of being a great big sports lover. Like. there may be some people I remember. doing my show and people were like, oh. [ __ ] I like watched soccer games and. I've never watched a soccer game in my. life, but I just like tuned in cuz like. I listened to Call Her Daddy and like. now I kind of love it. And it's like.

whatever we can do to get people to tune. in, I think it's so important because. like women do deserve the recognition. that they don't get. So, I appreciate. you [ __ ] speaking up even if it's. about something that you didn't want to. talk about. No, like I appreciate too even if it. makes me uncomfortable. I think too like. obviously like getting to know the. person outside the sport, but also like. we are going to have a life outside of. soccer. Like if an injury happens or. when we retire. Like you can only play. so long. So, it's like what is our life. after that and like.

if we're only known for soccer, it is so. hard to pick up the pieces and figure. out what you're doing after that. So, I. think for me even growing up like anyone. close to me could tell you that. I've always wanted soccer. Like I've. always wanted to be an Olympic athlete. like World Cup winner like everything, but through everything I've always said. I don't want soccer to be my entire bane. of existence. Like I don't want to live. die breathe soccer and I know a lot of. athletes that do. Yeah. Respect, but I. just think. in the future.

live die breathe soccer is not going to. help me in the long run and then I'm. just going to feel like I lack purpose. once I'm done playing. And I feel like. I'm trying to figure that out, but yeah, moments like this really help me. Yeah, look at your personality shining. You. walking around with your ass out waiting. for your boyfriend to smack your ass. Your outfit Your outfit. So, I know I'm so I'm sweating. Okay, last question. What do you want your legacy in the. sport to be? I feel like my answer is simple. Just. like. I want to be the athlete that brought.

the fun to sport. That simple. I don't want to be the one. that scored a thousand goals. Like I. don't need to be the person that was. like she was the best athlete. I want to. be like she was a great athlete, but she. also made it fun to watch and be a part. of. Ooh. Drop the mic. Period. That. That. Trinity. Life's too short. Thank you so much for coming on Call Her. Daddy. You crushed. Yeah, thanks for listening to me. Thank. you.