This is Mia Khalifa. (Full Interview)

Mia Khalifa Hi. Hi. Thank you so much for joining me. today. I'm so happy to be here. It's so crazy. that you are here and I'm so excited to. have you on. Um, I want to start by. talking about our story together and how. we discovered each other, how this came. to be and like why are we here today? You go first. I will go first. Okay, so when. everything broke out with Call Her Daddy. last year, I started seeing things about. it pop up on my For You page on TikTok.

and I became obsessed. Like obsessed, consumed everything I could about it. I. needed to know every single detail and I. was just so inspired by your strength. through it all and the way you handled. everything and especially by that first. video you did when you came back. The. YouTube Yes, that YouTube video was. Oh my god. Thank you. I think I saw someone parody. it parody it after the Oprah interview. saying like they photoshopped the queen.

onto your face saying the queen after. she watches this interview. Wait, I did. not see that. It was hilarious. Like it. was incredible. You showed so much. strength and. you made me a Call Her Daddy fan. That's. amazing to hear because. I Well, thank you first of all. I. had always knew like knew who you were. um and then I remember going to follow. you and seeing that you followed me. And. I went to DM you then because I'm like I. need to have this girl on the show and. then I saw that you had already DM'd me.

And your DM to me was unbelievable. So. thank you so much. It was basically. explaining exactly kind of what she said. about the video. Yeah, I mean I just wanted to like I. knew I knew you wouldn't see it because. at that time you were just getting. completely blown up. It was a hot mess. that and you have like 20 million. followers. You're like I just like. didn't know if you're going to see it. I'm like I'm I'm surprised you even know. who I am. So thank you very much, Mia. it with you'll never see this, but yeah. No. I'm a big fan. So thank you. And um. and I'm a huge fan. I to give anyone.

context right now, Daddy Gang listening, I am sitting with Mia in her house right. now. Um and we hung out last night, which I think was crucial for this. interview because we wanted to kind of. go through what Mia is going to be. comfortable talking about, not talking. about, and just so it can be an. enjoyable experience for both of us and. something that you're proud of and you. want to put on the internet. Um because. I've seen some of your past interviews. and the people that interview are. [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm like, what the. [ __ ] are these people doing? So, I want.

to give you a hopefully a different. experience today. Um but as we kind of. delve into some topics, some are going. to be fun Call Her Daddy topics and some. will be more serious topics, but I just. wanted to tell the Daddy Gang that Mia. and I have had a conversation about what. she's comfortable talking about today. Um and the themes that we're going to be. talking about, hopefully a lot of you. will be able to relate. So, I want to. kind of go through Mia, you just. explaining like your childhood and just. where you're from and just giving a. little bit of background on like who you.

are in case people don't know who you. are. Okay. I moved to America in 2001. from Lebanon. And I grew up as one of. the very few brown people in Montgomery. County in the school that I went to. Um. it was me and a couple Indian kids and. that was it. I was the odd one out. And. everyone was white and Jewish and I. wanted to have a Bar Mitzvah and I. wanted to do all of these things that. everyone else was doing and eat the. peanut butter jelly sandwiches in my. lunch bag like everyone else and there.

was a lot of bullying and a lot of. things that. ensued after 9/11 happened. So, my. childhood was a little rough. I didn't. have too many friends. I was also. extremely overweight and just. did not fit in anywhere. Right. Anywhere. Um so, I turned inwards and I. I I don't know. I had a lot of shame. over being different, not being. attractive, um not getting.

not getting any positive into attention. or. validation from myself. So, I sought for. it elsewhere and. by the time I was 16, I was dating. someone who was 23 and. You were looking for. validation through men. Yeah. And we. we'd had a conversation about that last. night. I think to kind of go through. some of your childhood, I think is thank. you for sharing that cuz those are like. all themes I think that a lot of people.

can relate to is one being bullied at a. young age significantly affects your. mental health and the way that you look. at yourself in your adolescent years and. then affects you if you don't get into. therapy or you don't address it, it. affects you throughout the rest of your. life and the decisions that you make and. the relationships that you get into. Um I can only imagine like you're. saying, you So, did you move here around. the time of 9/11? Yeah, in January. So, by the time school starts to school. started, 9/11 happened and being in DC,

it was Did you grow up in New York? Uh. no, but in Pennsylvania, but The. Northeast. The Northeast in general I think was. differently affected by 9/11 than the. rest of America because we didn't have. school for like a week. Yeah. We got. sent home and did not go back for a week. and. those trainings of like if this ever. happens again in school, like everyone. was like had to like where to take cover. and the like rooms it was crazy in. school. Yeah. Yep. Yep. And everyone brought like. lunch boxes that you have to like pack. to like have in case it was crazy times. in the Northeast. Isn't it so wild that we look at like.

the red scare and how kids were hiding. under their desks? Like, "Oh my god, I. can't believe they did that." Meanwhile, we're putting up cardboard over the. small window in the classroom in case. there's an active shooter or something. Times have changed, but it's it's kind. of same same but different. Yeah, same. same but different. So, was it. for you, was it so hard coming from. where you came from to then come to the. United States and then to be in the. United States around that time at such a. young age? Like, did you deal with. bullying around not being from America?

Yeah, the accent I didn't lose until. like probably middle school. So, there. was bullying surrounding that. There was. bullying surrounding the way I looked, the way I acted, the food I brought to. school. Basically, everything. I just. did I and I I didn't know anything else. So, I didn't know if I would ever fit in. anywhere. I thought everywhere was like. this. So, you felt very isolated. Very. So, you said you grew up sort of from like a. mil- not a military background, but you. did go to military school, etc. So, you. were kind of on like a I wouldn't say. like a straight and narrow path, but you.

definitely were not living in a way that. like your eyes were on you, your parents. not were strict, but like you're going. to military school, which and so, when. you get to your adolescent years, you go. to college. And like can you talk about. your experience with weight in college. and like the transition from feeling. like insecure and not confident in. yourself and then having that body image. changing in college to getting your boob. job? Oh, the crazy thing is my body image. didn't change until maybe like four or.

five years ago. Even when I even after I. lost all the weight between. those few years after high school and my. early 20s. I thought it would fix. everything. I thought it was my boobs. that made me feel so low and so. self-conscious about myself. But, after. I got my boob, that one was a breast. lift and implants. Oh. Cuz of my drastic. weight loss, Got it. I had 34 triple D's. and then I lost 60 lb and I had 32 A's, but I had all of this excess skin to the.

point where the doctor couldn't put. implants in, otherwise my nipples would. face like my toes. So, they had to do a. lift and then put implants in. And did. the weight loss also affect other parts. of your body, not just your boobs. Yes, so many parts. Like. Got it. Yes. So, and was that a journey, too, to try to get back to like what you. wanted? Was that hard for you to. struggle with? really hard for me to struggle with, especially having so many friends my age. Right. seeing their bodies compared to mine. I. I looked like I had three kids.

Like I had I had I still have all of. this excess skin and stretch mark The. stretch marks I don't care about. It's. it's the it's what my skin does when I. sit and when I move certain ways that. you can tell that's like. there's no way to fix that other than. having it surgically removed. Right. And I lost the weight in the worst. possible way. What do you mean? How did. you do it? Not eating. Just being completely. unhealthy, abusing laxatives, just doing. all of these things to put my body. through the ringer and lose this weight. so drastically. Where How Where were you. like mentally in that state of your.

life? Hated myself. I could not I There wasn't. a version of me that I could see in the. mirror and be okay with. I didn't see. the person that was actually there in. the mirror, even though I had already. lost 60 lb. I looked like a completely. different person. I did I still saw that. chubby girl that. I kind of hated and was ashamed of. And. I didn't feel as pretty as I was. So, whenever I got attention from men, I. felt like I need to hold on to this. I'm. going to lose it. I might not ever get. it again. Like I don't know when this.

will pass again. It's like a shooting. star. I need to hold on to this and do. whatever I can to make them happy so. that I can keep getting this. Cuz you. hadn't gotten any of that while you were. younger. Yeah. If anything, you were getting. shamed about your body. Yes. So, to get any type of positive. reinforcement about the way that your. body looked from a man was something. that you had not experienced. So, it was. like something again, I get what you're. saying you wanted to hold on to. Yeah. That's a lot of weight to lose, obviously. And we had talked last night. a little bit about your struggle with. body image and having.

openly saying you were comfortable. talking about having an eating disorder. And I think so many women struggle with. weight in general, but to acknowledge. and understand that you have an eating. disorder, like can you kind of walk us. through that journey and how you've. you're saying it's been the past what 4. years you started to really love. yourself. Can you kind of talk us about. like what that journey has been for you? Therapy. I love therapy. Dude, when you. said that last night.

like therapy. Mia and I I was like. nervous to ask her cuz I'm like oh god. like is this rude to ask if she's in. therapy? normalize asking people yo, are you in. therapy? Cuz I don't want you in my life. unless you're in therapy. Are you. actively working on yourself? Last night I looked at Mia and when she. said yes, I was like okay, now I [ __ ]. with you. This is amazing. We get along. and then to ask each other like oh are. like our significant others in therapy. and we're like absolutely. I was like I. will never date another guy that isn't. in therapy. So I'm like you don't. understand. Yes. So you got into What. age did you get into therapy? Uh 2016.

Okay. Like 5 years ago. I was 23, 24 maybe. Got it. Um and it would completely change my. life. And I I've heard I've heard you. say you need to try different therapists. totally and I fully agree with that. It's like. Yeah, it's like dating. It's like having. a trainer. It's like having a. dermatologist. Like you're not just. going to mesh with the first one you go. to. okay. Yeah. So your experience with therapy. has helped you dealing with that body. image. Not just the body image. lot of other [ __ ].

Yeah. Yes. Everything seems to tie back. to shame. Yeah. It's the most powerful emotion a human. can experience. It's crippling. It's. debilitating. It can change the way you. look at yourself. You look at others. You. It's the number one thing that you. should probably work on if you have any. other surrounding issues. Everything. leads back to shame. Well, I that's what I wanted to talk. about. So Daddy Mia and I had a. conversation. I think. we're sitting here and obviously there. is an event in your life that happened.

that I'm sure you're tired of talking. about Um and it has definitely affected. your life and and everyone listening you. may or may not know about that event. We're not here to talk about the event. I almost want to start now like after. this big event after this this porn. scene goes viral. Who was that girl the minute that goes. viral and like from then to now cuz last. night you were saying you're the. happiest you've been in your life. to.

have the most isolating feeling like. you're alone. You have people sending. you death threats. You have your family. at the time not supporting you. Where like where was your head at and. like how did you get here today? You. know what I'm saying? Like a lot of. people wouldn't have been able to get. through that mentally and and your. mental health I'm wondering like where. were you mentally post that video. So I. don't know where I was because that is. around the time that I started. dissociating and just compartmentalizing.

everything and pretending like things. never happened to the point where I. didn't even talk about porn for the. first like. 3 years after. I just went quiet, never. spoke about it. Anytime I would do an. interview that was the one thing they. were not allowed to ask me about. I. refused to even acknowledge that I did. it and it wasn't until therapy that I. realized how detrimental that is. I. can't just scooch things under the rug. and hope that they go away. That's not. how it works. You have to face them head.

on and acknowledge them and talk about. them. It's it's that feeling of like I. don't want to talk about it cuz I don't. want to bring attention to it but I need. to talk about it because I need to. explain myself cuz everyone is just. misinterpreting the whole thing. Right. So it's that catch-22 of not wanting to. bring it up and needing to bring it up. because it's the it's like the elephant. in the room everywhere you go. Right. I. remember last night you saying like. you're at first the. the your. your pseudo name Mia at first was like.

hard for you at times to hear cuz you're. like, "Oh my god, it probably brought. you back to those days in porn and being. like, I don't really want to associate. with that person." We were joking it was. almost like the Miley Cyrus Hannah. Montana effect. We're like, "You're. living two different lives." And that. mentally can [ __ ] with someone. Like. even if I'm saying like at times on my. show I act a certain way and then behind. closed doors if I'm a certain way like. if you're living two different lives, it. can directly affect your mental health. And it's like, "Well, which one who do. you address first? Mia or who you.

actually are?" And like how much of Mia. is you? So, I guess I'm trying to. understand like as a young woman feeling. so alone in those moments like if you. were kind of not. thinking about it, what were you doing. in your life post that video? Like where. did you go? Like what were you doing? How were you making money? I was working. as a paralegal at a law firm, and then I. was working as a bookkeeper at a. construction firm, and then. I was like, "Okay, I'm tired of living.

in this $500 a month efficiency. It was. disgusting. It was so bad. Cockroach-infested. It was the worst. times of my entire life." And you were. not really making money. No. And that that was like such a like such. a topic on the internet of like how is. this girl lying about how much money she. was making, which I know you were vocal. about how you basically didn't make any. money from this the videos that you made. and then they ended up making so much. money and like whatever that topic was. I'm sure hard for you cuz then you're. living in slumming it in a place that. you're like, "Everyone thinks I've made. it. Like I'm not I don't have [ __ ] to my.

name right now.". on Instagram. Everyone thinks I'm living. it up. Like that is not the case. And you had lost your Instagram. I did, yeah. It got hacked. it got hacked? I I didn't I didn't create one for like. a year, and then I created one in 2016. when I decided to move to Austin. Why. did you decide to come back to social. media? Because I knew at that point. there is no turning back. Everyone knows. who I am. I can't work anywhere. That's. why I left the law firm job. It was very. uncomfortable for me to work there.

Well, actually, the company dissolved, but I was very uncomfortable working. there. that experience? Yeah, it's very weird. to go into a job interview thinking, "Oh, I'm just going to go back to normal. life." And having the interviewer ask. you if. if you if you did porn. Right. There is nothing. you think they're asking you that cuz. they knew? Yes. Yeah, they recognized me. And I. went to a couple interviews where some. comments were made, and then I finally. got a job at the law firm, and then I. got a job working for a friend's company. at the construction firm, and then I.

just realized I. You feel uncomfortable. I feel uncomfortable everywhere I go. Like I I can't be sent into the field. They have to be careful about who they. let in the office because some. subcontractors are creepy. Like I. started to feel like a burden on the. person who was taking a chance on me and. giving me a job. Wow. To say you felt like a burden to. the people that were giving you a job. Yeah. You are an educated, smart woman who. deserves to be at that job. You made a. decision in your life that.

a lot of women make. I've made a sex tape with a boyfriend, and maybe it didn't happen to go viral, but there was a chance. People's nudes. get released. People decide to do porn. And back to the point of you being a. paralegal, the fact that you were a. paralegal, Mia, like your I didn't say I. was a good one. No, I I know you were a. good one. No, but I can tell. You're a. smart, educated woman. So, like I That. was the first thing when I sat down with. you last night. I was like, "This girl's. [ __ ] smart." I feel the same way.

about you. So, but it's it's crazy to. then think that you had to feel you. couldn't fully. get into a job and allow yourself to go. full force at a job because you were. being haunted by a decision you made in. your past. Yeah. Um after you left and decided to. get back into social media, what was your like mindset? Like who did. you want to present to the world? Were. you thinking that you were going to have. to completely remake yourself or you. knew people were going to comment? Like. how did you think how did you kind of. strategize? The way I got myself to.

Austin was I started camming and I. cammed in Austin for about a year before. I decided, okay, I I don't want to do. anything nude ever again. Can you explain camming to people that. don't understand the concept? oh. I had a very different experience with. camming. Um. I was probably the worst cam girl in. history. Yeah, I love the authenticity of this. whole situation. in my empty room and hear like the tips. go off knowing that they're trying to. get my attention to come back in but I'd.

be watching Netflix in the living room. Shut the [ __ ] up. You're like, "Guys, this is an. unbelievable episode of America's Next. Top Model. I can't miss it. Hold your. money. I'll be right back." So you were. just like not invested in it. No, I was I would No, the entire time I. was doing it I was trying to get my foot. in the door doing other things. Like I. was writing uh. for this website called FanSided. I. think their website hasn't been updated. since like 2005. It's just it's so bad. but I was writing this like weekly.

column of my top seven picks in football. and doing all of these things. trying to venture out while also being. like, "Okay, I need to try to make a. living and I'll try to do camming while. I'm trying to figure out where can I. place myself and where will I be able to. fit in not something sexually oriented.". Yeah, and Complex took a chance on me. and they gave me a little gig hosting a. show with my hero Gilbert Arenas. That's. amazing also. Yeah, well, well. So you're living in. Austin, you go from camming trying to. now find jobs, you get a couple gigs,

then where does your career take like. where does it take you? So you decide. I'm done with camming. Yeah. When did you make the decision? Was that when you made the decision like. I'm completely done with anything. sexual? Yes. Got it. it was June 17th, 2017. Were you nervous. like in that decision? No. No, because I gave myself a one-year. timeline and I did it in 11 months. What. do you mean a one-year timeline? I only wanted to cam for 1 year. And if. I didn't figure it out, that [ __ ]. sucks. I guess I have to move back into. an an efficiency. Got it. So you're. saying you gave yourself 1 year of like.

you can rely on this like sexual aspect. of your career, but once that's it's. done. Yeah. And we when you're saying Austin, how did you end up in Austin? Cuz you're. saying. I moved Oh, everything happened in. Miami. All like got it. My worst years of my life were played. out in Miami, Florida. Do you ever go back there? I went back. once. Oh my god. Is it like scary to go. scary. And it also changes very fast. I felt I. felt like. I mean, I only lived there for I only. lived in Miami for 3 years, but I felt.

like an outsider going back. Right. And. it must be like kind of like. like PTSD a little. Yes. Yes. I'm very sensitive to number. one smells and number two. places. Right. So anytime I drive by a place where like. something happened or like a I have a. memory there. trigger. Yes, very. So being back in Miami was. like God, there was streets I couldn't. drive down, there was places I couldn't. go to, food I couldn't order. We said. we're going to keep it vague, but toxic. manipulative relationships and men in.

your life, what do you think was like. the reason you got into them and how did. you get out of them? I got into them because I didn't think. highly of myself. I thought that that. was the best that I deserved. And even. more than that, I thought, let me. overextend myself and overdeliver and. over. just. just do everything to the extreme to. keep this person happy because they are. the best that I can do. Right. I can't do any better. How did you get out of like one of your.

most toxic relationships? My most toxic. one I actually got out of around the. same exact time that I got out of porn. because I came to the realization that. these these two things. correlate. Right. And I would not be here if it wasn't for. the other thing. God. So, recognizing that made me. it made me it made me grow pretty fast. because it made me realize a bunch of.

other things about myself and the. decisions I make, but. I think the the most that I took away. from it was. I have not been thinking for myself, and. I have been making decisions with other. people's best interests in mind, not my. own. I've been trying to please people who. aren't worthy of that instead of taking. care of myself and standing up for. myself. Dude, that's so profound too because. when I think back to our conversation. last night of you being saying it would.

went hand in hand with deciding you were. done with porn, deciding you were done. with a relationship. The way that you've spoken prior to like. about that effect it had on your life, it also makes sense then like how you. almost probably felt like so out of. control of like wait wait and and I feel. like everyone may have those moments in. your life where you go a little too far. Like you're dating the bad boy for a. little too long and then. you're in jail. Right. And literally and then you're in. jail or you wake up and you're like, "Oh. god, like I've been partying too hard.

and now I'm in jail." Or I got a DUI and. like you went after the video came out, how long after did it take you to be. like, "What am I doing?". It took It took a month It took a month. or two. Yeah. It took long enough for me to. realize I'm being put in danger. Yeah. I'm just going along with what people. want to do, and I'm putting myself in. danger. Like these aren't shackles. I. don't I don't have to be here. No one No. one can force me to do this if I don't. want to. And as soon as I realized that, I I knew I could get out. But do you.

feel like. what the minute you knew you get out? And I guess that's where it almost goes. then to what we had been talking about. about your job. Like. a lot of girls I feel like don't get out. of it regardless of whether it's porn. or a bad relationship or maybe you're. not happy where you are in your life at. like a job or college. Like the the. concept of getting out of something when. you're so deeply not only deeply. ingrained but then in your situation to. the extreme of like. can I get out? Yeah. Is there where am I going if I get.

out? Into an efficiency in North Miami. You're moving into the cockroach. infested efficiency. That's how you get. out. Right. And so then you're like so. so that that's what I'm trying to. understand like as a young you were 21. Yeah. As a 22. As like a young female. with you don't have the finances to be. like oh I'm out of here. I'm going to go. get myself a nice apartment. A lot of. girls usually cling to bad relationships. or in your case stay in something. because they're like I have nothing.

else. How low mentally. you had to have been to then how strong. you were to be like as low as I am I. can't stay here. Yeah. Did you ever think once you went to the. efficiency to be like I should I just go. back? No. You didn't? No. And I I did absolutely nothing for a. year. I didn't decide maybe It wasn't. even maybe I should go back. It was more. so like I I rationalized what camming. was and I knew that I could do it.

a place where I felt safe. I could do it. from my home. I don't need to see anyone. or interact with anyone and I can I can. do what I want to do. Right. So I rationalized that as this is the. best decision I can make for myself in. my life right now. Now I made the decision in a bad way. I. could have completely done it on my own. but instead I went back to a place I. should not have and worked for them. Got. it. People that yeah that you'd known. prior. And that was my biggest mistake.

Had Did you I'm interested to know cuz I. think like the the. theme of loneliness, I'm sure. I mean you can tell me if I'm wrong, but. maybe that was probably the loneliest. time in your life. Yeah. Did you have any friends that like. girlfriends at the time or were you so. isolated? so isolated. I had no one but the guy I. was dating at the time. And even then, my only friends were were his friends. So I had no women. I had no girlfriends.

I didn't really speak to anyone from. back home. Right. wasn't talking to me. I just had these two dogs. I've had I've. had these two dogs since I was. 18 19. how that sounds? Like I'm trying to Like. I have so much respect for you because. I'm like you decide to leave the porn. industry, your family is not in your. life at that point. You have a boyfriend. that wasn't obviously the best decision. you're also saying. So like you're. alone.

How Like how did you mentally Where Like. you were just blacking out? Like where. How did you even cope with that? Like. I'm I feel so I want to give that girl a. hug. I feel like any female being by I. mean man or female like being by. yourself in that moment having no one to. turn to, no girlfriend you can call and. cry to. Like who were you crying to? Yourself and your Like how did Literally. myself in that little efficiency on the. IKEA bed. Like I I spent so much time in. my in my room just crying or going for.

drives because I felt pretty free being. able to drive and having a car. And at that time did you go out in. public and people knew who you were? I. was That was That was one of the things. that made me feel even more isolated. I. was so scared of going out in public. because I was alone most of the time. I. saw my boyfriend Saturday Sunday. That. was it. Uh you you if if I saw him that. week, but. I was alone most of the time. I was. scared to go to the grocery store. I was. scared to go do laundry. I was scared to. go do anything that required me getting. out of the confines of either a car or.

my four walls because I had already been. at that point followed to my car. Death. threats, rape threats, everything you. can think of. Like thinking. at the time being banned from my home. country. Like them literally saying you. are not welcome back on our soil. Like. all of these things that made me feel. like. no one knows what I'm going through and. I don't want to tell anyone because I. don't feel like. I don't feel like the people I do talk. to about it will be able to to fathom. what I mean when I say I feel alone.

Like I I feel alone. globally, not just like oh, I'm lonely. Right, it's not like a oh, I'm feeling. lonely tonight. I am I am. until I started talking about it that I. realized. so many people feel this way for so many. different reasons. Right. You don't need to have. Twitter completely against you or an. entire army on the internet coming after. you for you to feel this way. It can be. something as small as.

your family just look at like you girls. that oh or men, you have a family member. that doesn't want to accept you and you. feel lonely or you have a bad. relationship with your parents or your. friends. You lose a friend group or. you're in college and you find out that. your best friend was talking [ __ ] on you. and now it's like do I need to find a. new friend group? Those are obviously. lower to what your extreme was, but like. the concept of feeling so alone and. having no one to go to is something. every single person listening to this. podcast can relate to. Everyone is fighting a battle that they. feel like.

telling someone about they won't. understand. When you I I guess it's just. fascinating to me you being in that low. place cuz like I said, I have so much. respect like how you were now sitting in. this amazing house. Like. What do you have anything you remember. other than those drives are amazing that. you're saying you took? Um, was there. anything else that you would like. have in your brain that kept you going? Like, did you have a goal or did you. have Like, what was what was in your. mind of like, I am so alone globally I'm.

getting banished from where I was. literally born. Like, where did your. head go to like what kept you going in. those moments? I I don't know. My number one, my dogs. Like, what kept me alive and kept me. from actually giving into thoughts that. were entering my head was literally my. dogs. I had no next of kin at that point, I. thought. Like, I had no one to take. them. I was the reason that they would. be alive every day. So, they consumed my. entire life. And that's why I love them so much,

especially this one, my firstborn. You. You asked me yesterday, "Who's your. favorite?" I was like, "This one." But, like, who asks that? Right. I know, but I I had to ask. So, your dogs, which like people can like. laugh at. I think that's like very like. reasonable or you need a bond with an. animal, absolutely makes sense. My dogs and finding communities online. Like, I found a little sports community. and I found I I just found different. different places online that I I felt. like I could be myself and be at home.

and. I didn't really start to feel like I had. a place in the world until I met my best. friend in the entire world, Rachel. Oh. Who by the way is freaking out that I'm. on this show. Wait, really? Yes. Shout out Rachel. Shout out Rachel. Ray. I [ __ ] love you. Wait, Rachel. Ray, not the chef. Rachel Ray, not the. chef and not the girl that Jay-Z cheated. with. Oh my god. That was her Instagram. bio for the longest time. Wait, that is actually amazing. I'm. like, Rachel Ray? Like, really? Wow. Wait, how did you meet Rachel? Online.

On Twitter. We started DMing each other. One day we realized we were wearing the. same She posted a picture on her on her. Twitter and then I posted one on mine. and we realized we were wearing the same. thing. So, we literally DM'd each other, "Should we move in together?" Stop. And I said, "Yes, I'll move to Austin. right now." So, that is when I up and. decided I'm moving to Austin. I have a. life in Austin now. I have a friend. I. have my first girlfriend in years. Wait, that's so interesting cuz I'm. going back to.

social media for a lot of people is the. antithesis of everything. They're like, "I hate it so much. It makes me feel. small." At that point, it was your escape. Completely. Cuz you didn't have to leave. your house. saying social media was my escape. because social media was probably. It's like the internet. of most of my pain. Right. But in the beginning when you that I. Dude, the fact that you couldn't go. outside and you felt so unsafe. Did you. Was it also safety, but was it also like.

not I I wouldn't I don't know if it's. the word paranoia, but um. like does that has that man watched my. video? Like is he staring at me through. my clothes type [ __ ]. completely take over and I couldn't look. anyone in the eyes without wondering, "Oh my god, do they know? Do they know? Have they. Yeah, those thoughts. Oh, like even even being in this room. right now, like I that that goes through. my head. Right. and makes me feel uncomfortable. to like walk by people or get too close.

Like all of these things because I don't. know. like, "Oh, did they Have they Googled me. before? Like have they looked at my [ __ ]. before?" Like is that something that. like still stays with you today? Yeah. Yeah. And you're working on that there. I am. working on it. Yeah. I try and ground. myself when my when my thoughts go to. that and I try and think. what. and. Right. Yeah. Like where where what has. you Have you gotten in therapy from. that? Like where do you Are you trying. to get mentally when you go out and cuz. I imagine. public settings for you, I understand.

now like full PTSD, anxiety driven. Yeah. Has this person looked me up. before? Not that there's any [ __ ]. thing wrong with it, but understanding. that in the beginning after that video. came out, judgment, societal judgment, and shame was put on you. You can feel. however you want about it, and you can. have your oh, I shouldn't have done. that, or oh, I wish I had. But for other. people to place judgment on you, that's. where I have the issue of like, why do. people continue to bring it up? Nothing. is changing from the decision you made, and to be the woman you are today, it.

frustrates me to see people still. commenting on a decision you made 7. years ago. If we all [ __ ] brought out. our skeletons in the closet and. continued to bring them up every [ __ ]. time you post a picture or something, it. frustrates me that that is one negative. social media, that they can make things. live forever that don't need to live. forever. People grow, people change. Um. and again, like I said, you did nothing. wrong. So, I guess the Rachel. you finding a friend, cuz that's I mean, any Daddy Gang listening, like I think. back to like, you're saying you didn't.

have a girlfriend. the first time I felt unconditional love. in. probably since I was a teenager. So, you meet online. Did she know who. you were? Yeah, yeah. We met on Twitter. Like she. full-on knew who I was, and from the. beginning did not care, and from the. beginning was my bulldog, and she was. the only reason I was able to go out and. enjoy things in Austin, because for the. first time in my life, I felt like I. have someone in my corner if like. something happens, or if someone comes. up to me and tries to. tries to do something or say something. Right. Cuz prior to that, you had been.

fully alone, and then any man in your. life was also had a hidden agenda. So, trust also issues must be huge for you. helped me rebuild my trust in people in. general, and I do I think that if it. wasn't for her, I wouldn't be in a place. in my life where. where I could. where I could have someone who deserved. me. Right. That's interesting. I think like it's so. crazy because. friendship is so underrated, cuz I feel. like a lot of time in the podcast I'll. talk about like who is your significant.

other. And half the time you couldn't. maybe have gotten to a place to have a. significant other had you not found. Rachel first. Because Rachel was showing. you unconditional love and I'm sure the. relationship and the. dynamic between you and men. was so. threatening to you mentally at the time. from what you had just gone through. So. then to have a female in your life, maybe that was like the best opportunity. for you to like start to put your toe in. the water of like, can I trust people. now? Let's talk a little bit about with.

regard to your relationships. Um, I know you had mentioned that you. had a very toxic relationship that was. you were young and whatever and you felt. like it was very strange imbalance. relationship of him being older, you. being younger. I've had I've been in three. relationships in in my life including my. my me and my husband right now. Got it. The first relationship I was ever in was. the most. naive facade of a relationship you could.

ever imagine. I don't I don't even want. to call it a relationship because I was. I got married 4 days after my 18th. birthday. Yeah, if a guy ever says. you're mature for your age, [ __ ] run. Run the other way and call the police. probably just to be safe. Right. Just to. be safe. Just double Oh, so someone used. to say to you, you're mature for your. age. god, yeah. That is like that is I'm too. old for you, but I'm not cool enough for. any girls my age like the motto. Belittling of you. that is that is their motto. That's like. what they wear on the patch that lets.

others know, hey, I'm a groomer. Right. Like you I'm going for younger. girls. Yes. And you're so mature for being a. younger girl. Yes. Oh, you're so mature for your age. dating when you were 16? Yes. That's [ __ ] young as [ __ ]. was terrible. kind of were like unaware even of really. what you were doing. then I was immediately thrown into the. wife role and the I need to. please him, keep him, like do all of. these things to make to not make him. lose attention or to. to not make him lose his focus on me. Right. His interest, yeah.

Yes, because I I mean. We We talked about it yesterday. you Do you think that was um. half in your head, half the way he was. treating you, or was it fully by the way. he was treating you? Or do you think it. was still in that self-validation, like. I need him to love me, love me, love me? I was vulnerable enough to where. everything that he tried went through. like. a hot knife in butter. Got it. It was just too easy. because I was so low mentally. Yeah. I. didn't see anything in myself. I didn't. see anything special or worthy or.

important, and I just I I let him tell. me what I was worth. Dude, that's like a deep ass statement, cuz we talked about that last night. I. remember we were exactly where we were. standing in the kitchen, and we talked. about how. how unhappy you are with yourself. directly affects the partners you. choose. Yeah. And. that's why it's so important to have. You don't have to have a lot, but like. friends around you, and that's probably. why it was hard for you to get out of.

these things, too, because like you. said, you didn't have anyone to be like, "Hey, um Mia.". Yeah, I was so isolated. He moved me. across the country, and I didn't I I was. in a completely different time zone than. everyone else I ever knew. I was in a. new place every like couple years. It. was It was insane. Do you have any. advice for women that feel. they are in a They Cuz it's so [ __ ]. hard to see when it's toxic. Oh, yeah. And then the toxic becomes addicting, and you don't know how to then have a. normal, healthy relationship. But do you. have any advice for like one.

Like how how to get out? Like it's not. easy. Like and it's a process. And I I. know friends and and family members who. have been in toxic situations that it's. like, "It's okay if it takes you a year. to first start self-actualizing and. having the conversation, like how would. it look if I leave him? And how would. this And and your safety and what's. going to happen?" Like there's so many. things that go into leaving, but for you. specifically using your own story like. how could you help younger women or or. women that are married right now who.

[ __ ] knows how old you are young you. are how did you personally be like. enough is enough? Like what was that. journey for you looking like to get out. of a toxic situation in a relationship? Because I couldn't imagine going back to. the way things were after I after I came. to the realization of this is this is. not me. This isn't what I want to do and. it'll be hard and scary and I do not. know what that road looks like like at. all. I was [ __ ] terrified, but I knew. that I could not go back.

to that relationship because it would. still be that same vicious cycle of. Right. the his perverse thoughts and his. fetishes and all of these things that I. no longer wanted to be a part of or play. into or placate or pretend like I had. interest in. Right. Because at that point I realized you. don't deserve me. I am better than you. Yes, [ __ ] Full judgement. Yes, [ __ ]. I'm so much better than you. Yes. Oh my. god, I want to like cry. I'm But it's so. hard to tell women like you're better.

than that. What you need is to. It's first working on yourself to even. know what you need and who you are and. what your. Not not just working on yourself, but. talking to the people around you and not. being stuck in that in that mindset of. they're not going to understand if I. tell them. They're going. they won't be able to comprehend the. things that I'm going through. Yeah. Take that step. It's scary, but take. that step and talk to people first. A. relationship I wanted to talk to you. about in the sense of like.

unconventional sex and things that you. know, there are some girls that are like. hey like my boyfriend. wants me to peg him. Is he gay? Like. you've had sexual relationships where or. a sexual relationship where you were. like oh this was different. Yes. And and the process of how it. transpired and how it unfolded and him. explaining to you what he wanted. Um, can you can you explain that because I. think it's. not we're not shaming anyone. It's. almost like you want to explain the. process of how it was presented to you.

Yeah. And in a. in an accepting way. Like we want to. talk about it's call her daddy. Like can. you explain what that dynamic was. sexually? It was the most unconventional and. eye-opening sexual dynamic I've ever. been a part of. And I'm not going to say. who the person was. Um, but I do feel like it was very much a. shared experience and I was I was a I. was 50% of that. And it then becomes one. of my life experience as well and.

I treasure it and I'm still curious. about it. So, I want to talk about it because I've. never talked about it before. I had a relationship with a guy who was. very curious about being the woman in. the relationship and dressing dressing. the part, acting the part to the extent. of me pegging him and me playing the. part of the man. And it started very gradually like early. in the relationship testing the waters.

with just my underwear and then it. extended into my lingerie and then it. extended into getting him his own. lingerie in his size and then it went. into. full-on wardrobe and outfit and shoes. and wigs like really good quality wigs. Feel like we're spending a lot on this. This is high quality sex, baby. $400 on. a wig once. Holy [ __ ] So, and and Mia, walk us through because I remember you. had said like how did how did he first. engage like how did he first let you.

know that he was interested in this? Like it was so minor basic, right? It. was yeah, it was like very small steps. And I think he at the same time was. was experimenting with it. I I don't. think it was something that was He was. also you're saying like coming to this. in his own like he had never fully gone. through this. We were very vocal with each other about. about what we wanted to try next and. what he wanted to to do next and I just. kind of was like down. This is your safe. space. I You tell You tell me what you.

want to do next and I will do what I can. to make that a safe, comfortable, enjoyable experience for you. That ended. up being the only relationship where I. was cheated on in my life. That was one. of the worst relationships of my life. pegged? Yes. Wait, what an [ __ ]. Yes. You give him the dick and he goes. to find new dick? god, not only that. Do you know how. expensive fake boobs are? No. Not like my fake boobs, but like fake. boobs to put on him to put on a man, yeah. You bought him. so much into that really. I bought myself a dick and you tits,

okay? And where do I get Where does that. get me? Cheated on. Wait, you bought him. boobs? Yes. And you bought him wigs? Yes. Why were you buying it not him? Just cuz you had the money or no? Yeah. You were just do Or you were just. go to the store and get the [ __ ]. Yeah. I would go and like try it on and. like the wigs and stuff. were fully committed to this, which is. great on you and and we Didn't you say. last night that was some of the best sex. you had ever had, though? Yes, because. it was just it. Like all your inhibitions were both down. and you're just like we're trying. something so different here.

puts all of their guards down and no pun. intended, but they're right in front of. you in probably the most vulnerable. position they will ever be in their. entire life, Right. help but feel a connection. There's. something about going there the. vulnerability aspect. Like Sorry, but. pegging your dude in front of you, like. that man is on all fours. a shared experience. Like what we did. isn't just his experience. It was also. mine and it made me question things. about myself. Like. I liked being in that male role. I. really thoroughly enjoyed that. Like.

genuinely and and I think I'm conscious. enough now like as old as I am after all. the therapy I've been into recognize the. difference between doing something to. please a man and doing something that I. also enjoyed. Do you think that it had. anything to do, and I could be reaching. here, but do you think it also had. anything to do with like you've been so. out of control in some things in your. life that like maybe it was kind of hot. for you to you to be the one talking to. someone? of people write it off as oh, she's a. boss at work, so she or no, she's You.

know, but he's a boss at work, so now he. wants to be like treated like a boss. a lot of people write it off as being. that, but what but what I came face to. face with was my own gender identity and. like questioning. who am I? Who do I Who do I think I am? Like who do I want to be? What role do I. want to play? Do I want to be in a. relationship with a woman where I can be. slightly more masculine and enjoy that. dynamic? And Fascinating. that opened my eyes to it, and therapy.

also opened my eyes to the possibility. of. that is probably the case. It's not It's. not just oh, you know, I'm a boss at. work. work. Yeah, it's it that's pretty. surface level, too. Thought I That's. fascinating. You Had you had those. thoughts prior to that relationship or. no? I was in I was in a relationship with a. woman when I was a teenager, and she was. she was she was incredible. And I've. I've always loved women. I've never I've. never written off dating a woman, but it.

made me it it made me question what type. of relationship I would be in if if I. was in a relationship with a woman, and. it made me realize I think I I think I. would want to play not not play. I don't. I don't even know how to talk This is. actually my first time ever talking. about it. I appreciate it because I know so many. men and women write in, and what would. my I think it's more of like what would. my role be? Yeah, like what. it it it made me question what I want, whether I want to be with a man or. whether I want to be with a woman and. feel feel that way, cuz I really liked.

the tenderness that came along with. taking. care of the version right of him that, you know, we explored together. I kind. of love that, too, that you're saying. like. you both were getting so much out of. that dynamic. Yeah. And I think that's. a huge point for sexual exploration to. Daddy Gang listening. It has to be. mutual. Yes, and you have to create a. safe space for the person who is. just being extra vulnerable. being the most vulnerable. Can we talk. about the um thing that I told you right.

before this interview? What? Um Malala. Daddy Gang, this is. god. This is And this is what I wanted to. talk to her about because I was saying, you know, I I wrote down I was like, the question. of. how far do we let the public go in. defining. us as women before we take over and. define ourselves. And I am what I'm. reading online before this interview and. I'm looking up that Pakistani education. activist Malala, who is the youngest.

woman to just win a Nobel Peace Prize. You tweet at her. No, I commented on her. TikTok and. So you comment on one of her TikToks. saying queen. Yes. And she comments. back. created one. And she comments back and Mia didn't. even know this until I sat down today. to me. I started freaking out. Wait, no, you sat down and you were like, can I. ask you about Malala? And I'm like, why. why are we talking about Malala? because of the article I was just. reading and how she commented back to. you and she's getting scrutinized on the. internet. I got up screamed and ran for my phone.

The article discusses how she commented. back to you and said, my bestie. And. she's getting was getting scrutinized on. the internet for having any type of. relation with you. And. it frustrated me in the sense that like. why are we the the relationship between. the two of you and who you are as women? That says so much to me about that. relationship. Why is this woman getting.

scrutinized for for something that. happened in your past seven years ago? Yeah. Like that makes no [ __ ] sense. to me. And so I thought that that. article was profound in the sense of. like people on the internet just want to. bring up negative [ __ ] to bring up. negative [ __ ]. Yep. You have two unbelievably educated. women who are yes in their careers doing. different things, but at the end of the. day, the fact that she has she has. respect for you and you have respect for. her. And then there's people [ __ ] on. her for associating with you. Like has. that how has that affected you mentally.

in like have you had issues with people. not wanting to work with you or like. backlash? Like explain that kind of. Yeah, I mean I've been rejected from a. lot of female hosted podcasts. Like oh, not not brand safe. Sorry. Like oh well. on Call Her Daddy here sweetheart, we. don't focus on brand safe. We focus on. real and authentic people. Genuine. story. losing our sponsors every week. Well, I thankfully I have sponsors that. trust me. So here we go. Thank God. But. no, I know what you're saying. So people. have have turned you away.

brands turn me away. I've had podcast. hosts turn me away. I've had people tell. other people not to associate with me. because of my past. Like I've I'm very. used to having that door shut in my. face, but it hurts a little bit more. when it comes from women and it hurts a. little like it hurts even more when I. see other women getting [ __ ] for. interacting with me. Like Meena Harris. started getting [ __ ] for following me on. Twitter and I started to have impostor.

syndrome. Like oh. yeah, this woman is a badass leader. So. her her female voice is so incredible. and impactful. I should probably just deactivate my. Twitter. I'm not worthy of having a. follow from her. I'm embarrassed for. anything that's ever been on my Twitter, anything I've ever said because I don't. want to disappoint this person and this. person is like. clean and untouched and you know what I. mean? Well, I think Mia won. She. clearly sees something in you. She made. the decision to follow you. No one. forced her to follow you. So, give.

yourself a little bit more credit. because seriously, like she followed you. for a reason. Also, like thinking about. how I've changed as a person in the past. year, past 2 years, past 3 years. Not. saying that you need to change and like. we need to wipe clean anything you've. done. You've done nothing wrong. change. It's growth. That's what we've. done. We've gotten older. We've grown. We've learned. We We see a version of. our self that we want to be and we go. after it. And to be put down like I Mine is on. such a smaller scale, so I never want to. compare, but like.

[ __ ] you run the biggest podcast in. the world. no, but like we talked about this last. night. I was like I have had in the. beginning before it got big, my family. with people were looking at my family. like your daughter is a [ __ ] Your. daughter is talking about [ __ ] Your. daughter is Your daughter is blah blah. blah blah blah. And my mom got. frustrated cuz the only comments that. were ever made was like, "What does her. father think? What does her dad think?". Yep. Why did Why Why do you What is it about. my dad that What's the difference? My. mother birthed me. Why are they so. focused on the.

daughter to father dynamic? And it's. just because of societal stigma that. people have put on that the dad must be. so disgraced that the daughter and it's. like, "What the fuck?". You just encapsulated. Middle Eastern female issues in one fell. swoop. Really? Yeah, that was insane. The first thing. that an Arab woman gets asked is, "What. family are you from? Who's your father?". Like anytime someone sees some sees them. doing something haram or just. not up to their standards, the first.

thing they're asked is, "What family do. you come from?" And it's like, "What. does it matter what family I I don't. speak for them. They don't speak for me. I am my own person." It doesn't matter. what Yeah. What What does it have to do. with my family? Like you need to judge. your entire lineage based on the. decisions they are watching you make. And And then it goes now to someone. following you on or Twitter. Now it goes all the way to that to be. like, why does someone following you? That doesn't mean that that person. believes everything you do. But why It's. just so crazy to me. Like and I think.

it's been frustrating as females to. sometimes like try to have a voice and. then be. if we have any type of sexual. like if I talk vocally sexually, if I am. have this podcast people can't fully. take us seriously when we talk about sex. or we have had a sexual past. Like [ __ ]. First of all, [ __ ] all of you because. you've all had sex. You're alive because. your parents were [ __ ] Maybe I have. a sex tape somewhere that's going to. come out. Am I not allowed to do. something because like Mia has porn. Oh.

my god, so that defines you for the rest. of your life. It just. It really aggravates me to think about. like the dynamic of how something in. your past can continue to like people. are saying haunt you. Why? Oh, I mean it. goes both ways, too. It's either it. haunts me like how dare you have done. that or I get [ __ ] for doing anything I. do now. Like I'm on OnlyFans doing. non-nude and people are mad at me for. number one, not being nude or number. two, having the audacity to be on a site like.

OnlyFans and not do nude content. We Can you explain that? Yeah, what is. your Well, one, how did you decide not. to post nude content on OnlyFans? I just. haven't done nude content. I I was on. Patreon before. Yeah. And I just decided. to switch platforms. I was tired of. Patreon. It wasn't user-friendly. I. hated running it. It was too much work. I just decided to do what I was doing on. Patreon, but on a different platform. And I didn't think much of it. And the. reason I switched to OnlyFans is.

honestly, it was meant to just be not. I needed to raise $100,000 Okay. to send. to the Lebanese Red Cross after the. Beirut blast. And I thought OnlyFans. Everyone's on OnlyFans. It'll be the. best way to make money.". And then I got [ __ ] for using money I. made off Only Fans to donate to the. Lebanese Red Cross. People were like, "How dare you send. this dirty [ __ ] money to Lebanon? We. don't need this." Like, "What?" Wait, what? You can't do anything. You don't have. You're not in a position to pick and.

choose where the money is coming from. Yeah, what? Like, I'm being I You are. graciously offering. is worth like a fraction of a cent. You. have no place to sit and nitpick where. the money is coming from to the Lebanese. Red Cross. they accept the money? That's not on them. It's Yes, the. Lebanese Red Cross accept Donate to the. Lebanese Red Cross. Holy [ __ ]. They'll accept money from anyone. It's. It wasn't the people who were actually. in charge of getting it. It was backlash. from Lebanese people. Now, there was.

also a lot of support and a lot of. appreciation from from Lebanese people, but what I'm saying is you cannot please. anyone. You can't please anyone. It's. like Mia's like, "I'm going to use my. Only Fans, and I'm going to put take all. my money, $100,000, and I'm going to put. it to an amazing cause." And then. they're like, "That's disgusting, Mia. That's from Only Fans." As you're not. stripping, you're not doing And if you. were, if you were [ __ ] putting a. dildo in your [ __ ] who gives a [ __ ]. You're giving to an organization, and. it's like a cause that you are.

passionate about. How has your. relationship We're swerving here, but. like I'll go back to Only Fans in a. second. How has your relationship after. being. banned You were banned from Lebanon. Mhm. For how long? Until they decided that, you know, I was. allowed to come back recently. Right. Okay. And. My My relationship with my home country. has changed 180 in the last year, and. it was it was after the Beirut blast. that people really. started to to to realize what is. important in life. Like, every everyone.

was taking stock of of things in their. life, and I think a a a lot of people. were just. more open-minded. We were all just in a. in in a mindset of. we're Lebanese. We need to protect each. other. We need to support each other. Like there's not many of us and even our. own are trying to kill us. Like we have. to stick together and that is when the. conversation around me and Lebanon. changed and I'm so I'm so thankful for. it because. I I think that has to that has to do. with why I feel like I'm in such a good.

place in my life. Can you explain to me. what is your career right now and like. where are you kind of like seeing it. going? I I'm at a weird place in my career. right now where I can take it. any direction I want and I'm so. fortunate for that. I have so many. exciting things ahead, but right now I'm. loving being on OnlyFans. I'm seriously. loving it and it's it's not just me. being on there that I'm enjoying. I'm. really enjoying learning about the sex. work community and getting to know sex.

workers and hearing all of these. different people's stories and their. experience in the industry. And. I think. I think it's very very important to. acknowledge that sex workers need to. need to be treated better and need to. have more protection, but I also think. it's important to acknowledge the amount. of grooming that takes place online when. people start glamorizing the industry. and porn and being a sugar baby and all.

of these things that are really. detrimental for young women who are. watching and listening and thinking. looking for an out, honestly, and seeing. someone post like that and instantly. think this is my escape because it's. not. I I don't. I don't encourage people to go into the. sex the sex work industry, but. I. also will like die to protect people who. are in it. Especially in the last year, like just. getting to know so many sex workers and. people who basically taught me how to be.

be OnlyFans because. I. for for. for as much as I'm considered a sex. worker, I know [ __ ] nothing about the. industry and I want to learn because I. think it's irresponsible for me to be. this quote-unquote face of it for better. or worse and not know what's going on. with the people who are actually in the. industry. That's fascinating cuz it about I. uh respect you a lot for saying that. that you've at one point really tried to. take yourself out of that world and now.

being on Only Fans and knowing there are. sex workers on there, you do want to. continue to educate yourself on a world. you were previously fully ingrained in, took yourself out of, and now I remember. seeing you doing an interview and you. had said um even just something as. different as adjusting when a say it's a. porn company is handing a young girl a. contract, kind of like what we were. joking about in the perpetuity aspect, when you're handing a young girl a. contract, just simple as she's not.

allowed to sign it that day. What about. even just putting instilling that type. of rule just because like you said, you're sitting there with men staring at. you as you're about to sign this. contract, the word perpetuity is on. there, you don't know what it means, but. they're staring at you and you're. feeling a little bit like I guess I. should just sign this cuz there's three. men staring at me and like I don't. understand half of these words and it's. like embarrassing and you don't feel. like you're you just are like I guess I. should sign it. for it to almost be instilled that like. there needs to be some type of guidance,

there needs to be a lawyer in the room. to help someone understand what they're. signing. because if the industry is allowed to. target 18-year-old girls, those girls. need protection in place. As young. females or males signing something that. you don't have an understanding of is. detrimental especially when you're in. your adolescent adolescent age of your. brain is still forming. How are you. going to make a smart decision when you. don't even understand what's in front of. you? Exactly. I mean there's so many things. it's It's to be cool to see what happens. with our relationship cuz we had talked. about last night um the whole like child. pornography thing and like what happens.

when you're younger and if a girl I. didn't realize that when a girl's. picture if she takes a nude and sends it. to her boyfriend most of the time they. don't prosecute if it gets spread around. because. the female underage female also gets. prosecuted for distribution of underage. porn. Even though it's her in the picture. sword. So she can't she. these girls are back their back is. against the wall because they can't. report their image being circulated and. sent around by the guy they sent it to.

because then they would be admitting to. procuring distributing taking underage. pornography. How is that even. It's so [ __ ] up. That's like what did we say last night? We're like let's put our suits on. What. will we wear? Let's. to write a bill Alex. Right. Can you imagine? yes. We need yes, I can actually. Daddy gang is like this episode has. taken a turn Mia and Alex are talking. about passing a bill. We will be there. in our nice suits. going to be legislators.

Mia I think sitting down with you has. been. one of my favorite interviews just. because I can tell how one genuine well. you are genuinely authentic so smart so. educated but also with your past to be. sitting with you today you you can tell. you've done the work. Like you can tell. that you can tell that you have been. through an experience but it's kind of. as much as I said last night like. although you would maybe take it back. when you were younger like would you be. sitting here had all this not happened?

You know what I mean? I think I think that I would I would. take back the reason why I made the. decisions I made. Yep. But. and man it it it made me grow up very. fast for better or worse it made me grow. up. I did not get to have the same early. 20s as most people my age. And. I I know if I I don't know if I regret. that because. I think that I would be in a different. place at 28 than I am now if I did. I think to hear the way you talk about.

your husband and to hear the way that. you talk about your life right now. my friend Lauren and I are so corny. recently but we keep saying I really do. believe everything happens for a reason. You may not have met him. You may not we. may may not even be sitting here. You. know what I mean? And so to look at the. positives of at what one point in your. life was the darkest place in your life. to see the woman you are today and to. meeting you and I feel like I've learned. so much from you already and I've this. is the second day I've hung out with. you. It's inspiring honestly to be in.

your presence. So Thank you. Thank you. so much for coming on Call Her Daddy. I'm tearing up. Thank you for coming on. Call Her Daddy. I hope that I hope I'm. excited to see where your journey takes. you in your career. too and I'm excited. to see where we end up. I feel like. we're already friends. Yeah, me too. Thank you. Seriously, thank you for putting out the things. that you put out because you have no. idea who you're inspiring and how much. you're inspiring them. You made me you. made me feel like. I can literally do anything I want. I. can start a podcast if I want. Like I.

cannot believe she's doing it on her. own, editing it, writing it, doing. everything on her own and also dealing. with all of this [ __ ] she's dealing with. Yeah. facing the internet, sitting in. front of a camera with amazing lighting. and talking about all of it. Amazing. lighting. God, it took a minute to get. that like. Great windows. It did. Great windows, great exposure. the way you had your wall set up with. all of the The shelves, the brick, the. whole yeah. We love it. No, thank you, Mia. I have chills just like talking.

about that video. You you seriously made. me feel LIKE. OH MY GOD, anything is possible. Thank. you, Mia. You've been amazing. Daddy. Gang, go show her love. Tag yourself. where they find you. It's just Mia. Khalifa. Go follow her on all things. social media. Go subscribe to her. OnlyFans so she can continue to use her. money for good. I love you. I love you. Okay. How long was that? Holy [ __ ] An hour.