The Chainsmokers: Cheating, Threesomes & Toxic Exes (Full Episode)

What is up, Daddy gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. >> Check your mics. How are you feeling? >> I want to hear every word. >> I want to hear the breath. Is that close. enough for you? >> Yeah. >> Triple check. >> I'm a heavy breather. Is this like too. close? >> Are you a mouth breather? >> Mouth breathing is like a big thing. apparently. >> Yeah. >> You know, like Well, actually like. Sorry. like chewers, blow chores,

>> nose breather. >> Nose breather. I think that's how you're. supposed to breathe. >> Yeah. Yeah, you're supposed to breathe. that way. Yeah. I I didn't mouth. breather. >> No, I'm not. >> That'd be a horrible thing to have like. on the whole undertone of the podcast. You're just hearing this calling. anymore. >> I'm like, okay, we need to mute his mic. Okay, let's just start. >> Yeah. >> Chain smokers. Welcome to Caller Daddy. >> Thank you. We're I just got nervous now. I said I wasn't, but now. >> Alex just [ __ ] his pants. He's like, "Fuck, let me take a drink." Cheers. Let's do a little another Cheers. Cheers. Cheers, guys. >> Everybody calm down. Everything's going.

to be okay. The boys are a little. nervous, guys. Daddy gang, be nice to. them in the comments. >> I wasn't at all the same with Alex. Just. right until we started. And now. >> you're now you're like professional Alex. and. >> I'm like, "Hello.". >> Yeah. >> I feel like it's like. >> I've seen this many times, you know? And. >> but like I'm much more scared giving. like a best man speech than I am. performing in front of like 30,000. people. Totally. >> I think that makes sense though. Isn't. there a thing Dave Chappelle does where. he only performs in front of like four. people in a room before he does it? I. think I've heard that. And it's 10 times. harder to perform in front of like three. people than a crowd.

>> Have you done a best man speech. recently? >> Not that recently, but I killed it. I. murdered it my speech cuz you always got. to the way you start a best man speech. and someone tipped me off is is you just. insult the guy who spoke before you. right off the bat. So you like give it. you're like give it up for John. He did. his best. And then everyone immediately. is like haha, you know, and then you're. like and then you can launch into. whatever. >> So I tried that. My sister got married. uh like the summer before last and I. tried that trick cuz Alex had just. killed this best man speech and was. telling me how good he did. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> And then I y like, "Oh, you tried your. best." But I said it to like my like.

female cousin and it like really hurt. her feelings. >> She's like sobbing in the corner. And. then she like came like, "Do we have. beef on something?" I was like, "I don't. know. I just I just heard it was a good. thing to say." Like. >> and you just [ __ ]. >> You did a great You had a great speech. I'm sorry. >> It was really hard felt that. >> So we were supposed to meet in Miami. >> Yeah. Well, I feel like we were supposed. to meet like so long ago. It's weird. that we have never met. >> I'm kind of glad that didn't happen. given the nature of like it's just such. a [ __ ] show. You know what I mean? Like. every morning was like a way too late. and.

>> Okay. Wait, I want to ask you guys cuz I. was going to say what did I miss in. Miami? Because to give people context, we were supposed to do this interview in. Miami. I got sick. Maybe I was faking. Maybe I No, I'm just kidding. I was sick. and I couldn't make it. >> Either way, >> what did I miss? What did you guys What. would. >> I definitely thought about it if you. were. >> It's such a [ __ ] show. I used to be like. a receptionist in an art gallery and we. would and and I would go to Basel. This. is like 15 years ago and you would go to. Basel and it was like one party, the. liberal party and then it was actually. just like collectors and people that. worked in the art world and it was like. really fun but like really manageable.

and now like I've never se I don't know. where the art people are. I don't see. them at all and it's just like craziness. and there's so much [ __ ] and everyone's. has FOMO and you know like you'll be I. remember being at I think it was like. you know like Miles and Ko and those. guys they had a party and it was like. awesome. It was like Black Coffee was. DJing. It was an open bar. It was a. bunch of friends. And then everyone's. like, "We got to go to this Bob's. party." And I was like, "But why?" I was. like, "We the this is great here. Everything's great." And they're like, "No, no, it's better over there for. sure." And I was like, "I feel like the. people over there are saying that this.

is everyone's like chasing the night. It's like fashion week. It's like we. have to go to 10 events." And it's like, "This party is kind of dope. Like, let's. go.". >> Yeah. Yeah. Why don't we just stay here? And it's just like you're constantly. missing and feeling like you're, you. know, in reality it's like none of it's. true. So, how did you guys meet? You. guys have been together for 10 years. This is a thriving relationship. Drew, how did you guys meet? >> We met uh I was finishing school in. 2012, 2011. >> And Alex had actually started Chain. Smokers with another kid. So, I'm not.

the original Chain Smoker. >> Oh my god. Where's he? >> He's a dog walker. >> Well, that was last time. >> [ __ ] this. Hope he doesn't watch the. show. >> Shout out. Okay. So, there was an OG and. then you came in and swapped. >> Well, from my understanding, the other. kid didn't want to wanted to go and do. his own like solo career and Alex was. like, "What the fuck?" Like, we built. this whole thing up and. >> it wasn't much, by the way. It was like. DJing and like SL, you know what I mean? Like, but it was something. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and I like knew how to. make music, like pretty shitty music,

but I like was really into it. And uh. and then we met and he the other kid. left and he was like, "I want to find. someone who like makes music." And we. got introduced by our manager, our. current manager who's still with us to. this day. And yeah, rest is history. >> Did you guys like immediately hit it off. vibe-wise, personalitywise? >> Did you have a funny like you didn't. know which one? >> Oh my god. So I go so I go to New York. City. I take like the the Funwa bus. You. know about this? Yeah. Yeah. Like $13. bus that goes from like Boston to. Chinatown. So I take that thing down. there. Um and I like go and meet them at.

this club, but I didn't know I knew. there were two guys in Chain Smokers and. they were both there and I didn't know. which was which. And I remember just. going to the club and and meeting and. both of y'all and I was just like, "Oh. god, I hope it's Alex.". >> Like the other kid was okay, but I. really hope it's Alex. And and thank God. he he texted me and I didn't even know. cuz he texted me the next day and was. like, "Come over to my apartment." And. not until you open the door to your. apartment did I have confirmation it was. you. It's like a blind date. And it was. like, "What do you listen to?" And it. was like, "I like Calvin Harris." I was. like, "Me too." You know, "What kind of. beer do you drink?" And it was like and. but like in reality what was really.

crazy is and we did have this like. conversation the first time we met was. you know we were like what do you want. to accomplish and how do you want to get. there and we were like both of us were. like we want to be the biggest you know. artist on the planet and we'll take do. whatever it takes to get there from like. a work perspective and and then I want. to branch out from there and create and. use that platform to like get into other. things that interest us and you know. it's like kind of crazy now to reflect. back on that cuz like we had no [ __ ]. idea back then it was like literally. like cool let's let's do this then and. He moved down from, you know, Maine and.

I like quit my receptionist job and they. were like, "Are you crazy? It's like a. recession right now. Like you want to, you know, like go be a musician. full-time." And they were like, "Listen, you we'll have you back, you know, when. this fails." And now it's like nuts. Like I buy art from them. And it's like, you know what? >> Dude, that's so crazy cuz it's kind of. like a love story, honestly. We're like, "You've been together for 10 years. You. guys met on a blind date." Like, and. then you ended up being in front of him. and you were like, "I really hope it's. him and not the other one." And then you. guys got matched up and you quite. >> romantic. It is quite romantic. Perfect.

situation. Like it all worked out. So, okay. To people that are watching, >> I want them to like get to know you guys. better individually through each other's. eyes. >> Should I leave the room? >> No. No. Because you guys are you guys. are a couple, but I want to hear Let's. start with Alex. >> How would you describe Drew? >> Yeah. >> To someone that doesn't know him. Um, so. he likes to go like deeper with things. and I'm like uh I don't want to say I'm. surface level, but I like to cover a lot. more ground. He is like the least.

communicative person on the planet. In. fact, like I think I like text Madison. Beer about a song yesterday and I was. like, "Hey, it's Alex. I got your number. from Drew cuz he sucks at texting." So. like I'm, you know, going to uh And it's. not that like he doesn't care, he just. does. I don't know what actually don't. know. >> what goes on in my head. >> Yeah. Like you see it and you're just. like uh you know what I mean? And you. just like move on. >> Like are you quiet? What do you mean. you're not communicative? Like. >> Well, I read things, but Alex is also. hyper communicative. So, a lot of these. conversations that like I'm on an email. or I'm on a text thread, he's already. said what I'm would have said. So, true.

>> Do you guys find yourself on the same. page a lot? >> Yeah, most of the time. >> Yeah, we're completely aligned like in. like goals and all that stuff. We've had. our disputes, but it's always like uh. you know, reconciled in a really like. reasonable way. >> You did walk into my house and say that. you guys have gotten into multiple fist. fights and punched each other. >> Yeah. Not in a couple years, though. Yeah, it's been a couple which might be. mean we're due for one but but it's been. >> so so you guys are just fighting over. like regular [ __ ] but you guys have an. ability. >> it's like sibling fights you know where. you're just together all the time. >> like over front seat in like Mexico like.

eight years ago. >> I don't remember even being mad at you I. think that was just we're like hey we've. never fought. >> time was in like in uh what's that. Mayorca at a club. >> that was bad you know it wasn't just. that he had been pissing me off for a. while you know and I'm sure I've been. pissing him off for a while you know and. then it just gets that one moment. >> where he just does one thing and I was I. lost I I initiate I think every fight I. >> Are you hotheaded? >> Not anymore but I definitely was. >> You worked on it? >> No. Yeah, I've worked therapy and stuff. >> Oh, you've gone to therapy?

>> Yeah. >> Have you guys ever gone to therapy. together? >> Uh no. We've considered doing like. executive coaching. >> but not not therapy. >> Maybe couples therapy is the move. >> Well, now I feel like really we don't. have like. >> issues. Yeah. Issues really. You think. that, but as as a woman that's standing. here that used to have be in a duo. >> Did you go therapy when you when you. >> No, but we should have apparently. You. can always get ahead of it. Okay, Drew. Now you describe Alex's personality. >> Um, he's hilarious. Like I sometimes.

I'll just be like making a drink and. we'll be, you know, just talking to. somebody and I'll just overhear him just. say the most outlandish thing to people. >> I don't know where it comes from. He. also has like. >> the mo no filter and also the most. insane memory. >> Like he will like remember we like we. meet so many people every weekend. We're. doing like we've been doing 150 shows a. year for the past seven years probably. sometimes more even. And a lot of those. are in Vegas where we're like hosting. people for our tequila or our venture.

fund or people that we've just. accumulated along the years. And someone. will walk in and he'll just he'll. remember like I I will be like I. recognize this guy's face. I can't place. it. He'll remember that their kids are. in tennis lessons. >> Holy. >> It's insane. >> It's weird. >> So, he's a good person to have next to. you because I'm you where I'm like, I. [ __ ] know that face, but I couldn't. even tell you the name if you put a gun. to my head. And you're like, oh, it's. this person. They have this many kids. They This is the address. >> And then I'm the one that's like, all. right, I'm kind of like done this. tonight. And Drew would be like, I just. like stayed up till 6:00 a.m. with that. guy, and now we're like,

>> yeah, >> like brothers. And so, it's like. >> I go deep with like one person or three. people, whatever. Yeah, >> this is helpful. I'm definitely like way. more like I I I don't know what the word. is. I guess it just depends. >> You're a surface level [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> And Drew is just. >> like he's like I don't know if anyone. texts any more like more people than you. per day. >> What? >> He's like talking to like you know the. head of some like massive like hedge. fund and he's talking to like the. bartender from the dueling piano bar in. St. Louis that we played on a Wednesday.

night in 2013. >> It's crazy. For sure. >> Okay. And you're not answering your text. at all. >> Exactly. >> Okay. Good to know. Good to know. >> Yeah, I'm totally taking advantage of. his powers. >> That's really great. What are your fans. like? >> Passive and chill. We have like the most. like relaxed nice fans ever. Like like. we could just sit like anywhere and like. >> I I think we have like a really nice. level of of like celebrity or fame, you. want to call it, cuz like maybe some. people recognize us. Usually it's like. they have to pull their phone out to. like confirm the the sighting. >> and by the time they do that we're gone,

you know, >> and move on. >> Or they'll just come up and be like, "Hey, >> big fan." And they just like dip out. You know what I mean? Like we don't have. like any like rabid, you know, crazy. story. I I've told this fake story for. like years about because we didn't have. a fake crazy fake fan story and that was. like what people always asked us. So I. just came up with one and I lied about. it for like seven years and I became so. good at telling it. I haven't told it in. a while, but basically it was the story. about we play the show in Italy and. there was this fan in the front row that. was like dead, you know, stone cold.

staring at both of us and it was like. really awkward and then in the middle of. the show she pulls out like a buzzer and. just starts shaving her head but like. not changing her reaction and then she. starts eating her hair and then we're. like freaking out and we're like losing. our focus and then she kind of just like. disappears into the crowd and. >> that's and no one was like, "Huh?". He told us in every interview it made it. all the way to um. >> Larry King. >> Larry King. He told Larry Larry King the. story. >> What the [ __ ] are you Did you guys. coordinate this or did one day he just. spring this in an interview and you were.

like. >> you just made it up one day and we just. kept going with it. >> And you didn't say anything? >> No. It was just easier than to like, you. know, like I just didn't have one and I. just wanted to just go along with it. >> I wanted an awesome story. >> Do you have one now? Is there like a. crazy fan interaction you can now tell. or no? >> Just fans are so pleasant and passive. They're just like, I don't I you know, if you're any fans out there want to do. some crazy. >> Yeah. Like get after it. >> Yeah. Go go go for it. >> I think you're very fortunate though to. be to have. >> Do you have crazy fans? Like girls go. >> Yeah. Like I have some crazy.

interactions I've had. Like. >> are girls crazier or guys crazier for. you? >> It's a different vibe. The guys are. always bar stool fans. SO THEY'RE LIKE. COOPER AND I'M LIKE oh my god. And. they'll like bear hug me and I'm like. hello sir. And it's like it's very like. >> Have you ever hooked up with a fan? >> No. Because most of my fans are women, but I have had multiple guys are like, >> "No, I'm like I'm like, "Oh, like you go. hook up with Dave." Um I've had I've had. multiple times where like a fan will.

chase me down and like give me a. vibrator or like just something very and. like I still use it to this day and I. think of her like it's very cute. Like. but my I would say my fans are kind of. similar. are very chill, very. passionate, but they're open books to me. and like we have like very cute. interactions. >> A podcast is very different because. you're speaking about yourself so much. and getting deeper into yourself by. talking about with other people. You see. reflection, all that stuff. >> like us, we just they just hear our. music and we're just two generic white. guys. So, they know the music, but it. doesn't go beyond that, you know?

>> But that's why it's fun to sit down with. you guys. You would probably be great on. a podcast. You want to get deep. >> I'm definitely going to launch a. podcast. I'm sure. I'm waiting for I. just need more time, but it's going to. happen. >> I could see you guys doing a pod. >> It's going to be dark and dangerous. >> Oh my god. >> I'm not going to be there. >> You don't want to be on it. >> I don't have the controversial. >> I'm not consistent enough to do it. >> Okay, great. You don't have the workout. then. >> His is going to be like Yeah, he's got. stories. It's good. >> I'll listen one day. >> Maybe. Call Her Daddy is brought to you. by Uber Eats. Okay, Daddy gang. We all. know Uber Eats has the best selection of.

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performance at the end of it. So like. the more that like when we have big. shows and like our whole team's there. and there were lots of friends. It's. like almost like builds up more anxiety. because everyone's like asking you like. are you nervous? Like are you excited? How you feeling? Like you just feel more. tension around you. So, for us, it's. like, you know, a warm up, like drinking. some tequila backstage, like maybe work. out earlier in the day or something like. that. We have like a simple pre- ritual. handshake and and it's like gay time, but I feel like lesson. >> Can you do it right now? >> Yeah. It's just it's it's that it's just. like super simple. Yeah. You can learn.

>> really simple. >> Yeah. It's more like it's just. superstitious thing that you have to do. it. When you guys are getting nervous. for a show, do you guys really lean on. each other or do you guys go kind of. like individual mode? Like I like just. like sit there individually and deal. with your stress. >> I feel like it's kind of like I don't. know. I I feel like we don't share. necessarily like how nervous you are. because that probably just makes other. everyone more nervous. Uh, but I think. you know like in the case of like Vegas, I mean this is a weird example, but like. if I'm exhausted and you can see it like.

he'll step up and go harder and like. vice versa or you know what I mean in. that in that sense. So you can kind of. tell when someone needs like Yeah. Yeah. like needs like okay like he's just. clearly like you know sick right now or. like like we do play sick all the time. I think we've only canceled one show. ever. >> and you know and you're just like all. right I'm going to pick up the slack and. like give it a little bit extra today. like cuz he clearly just, you know, is. struggling. >> This is a real team unit here. I'm. really liking the vibe. >> It's very It really is. Like it's like, you know, the same way I feel like when. girls can like look and look each other.

and like communicate like everything and. then guys sort of are just sitting there. clueless about what just happened, >> right? You guys are the ones insane. >> Yeah. And they're like, "We should. probably go." And you're like, "What? What did you just say to her?" You know. what I mean? And it's like. >> that's such a specific and so [ __ ]. relatable of just being like, "Yeah, we're actually going to go." And you. guys were like, "Excuse me?" That was a. good example. >> So, in 2019, >> you guys after a tour went off of like. the grid and you kind of went on a. hiatus. >> What the [ __ ] happened? How did you come.

to this decision? Tell me about it. >> Uh, well, we just felt really burnt out after. 2019. I mean, I told you we've been. doing like 150 shows a year. We had just. like released our third album in the. fall of 2019 and then we did a 42 city. arena tour with Five Sauce and we just. got home. We're like never again. Like. that was just too much. After like a. whole summer of like back and forth from. Vegas to Europe, Vegas to Europe every. week.

>> There's two people that are making the. decisions. How do you guys balance. what's good for you individually and. then what's good for the Chain Smokers? I mean, we've been pretty. on on the same page in our personal. lives. Like, we've made a lot of. sacrifices. And this is a big thing that. we've been talking with our team about. now that we're in our 30s, like well. into our 30s and it's harder, you know, and there's a lot of we haven't gone to. a lot of weddings. We haven't been here. on weekends ever, you know. We haven't.

we've like every you know we sacrifice. our weeks just you know we like last. week two days we're just erased. >> being on a plane you know. >> and so I think we've been really aligned. on that thus far you know we just been. trying to get it and be successful and. and do our thing and and not leave. anything on the table and I'm really. thankful that we took that approach but. I mean going forward we definitely will. have to be more communicative about like. hey I don't want to be in LA this much. or I don't want to go to Vegas this much. or I don't want to do and who knows what.

that's going to But like our lives are. changing. So that's like a a new hurdle. that's probably coming for us. >> Yeah. It's a it's tough cuz I think you. got to balance like you can't forget. like how lucky we are to be in this. position to begin with. And it's like I. see so many people like taking advantage. of that opportunity and letting it just. slip between their fingers because they. think it's just like it's hard work. Like there are people hundreds thousands. of people tens of thousands of people. out there that are trying to do what we. do and they're working three times as. hard as we are potentially. So I think. like we've always had that like grit and. determination. Like we might not always.

be the best at the certain things we do, but like I know we apply ourselves and. work. >> harder than most people at the things we. care about. So I think it's ingrained in. like the fabric of our personalities, which is like we're super competitive. Like we want to be the best, want to get. the best out of ourselves. And we also. like I I feel like if I just ran into. you somewhere in the street and you were. like, "Hey, you know, oh my god, like do. you feel accomplished everything?" I. would be say like absolutely not. Like. we have like very heavy imposter. syndrome. So for us it's like we feel. like we're just kind of also getting.

started and have so much more to do and. say from what this you know chapter is. But you also you know like you do want. to start thinking about the other things. in life that like you possibly can get. joy out of cuz it's like these are. probably all like really unhealthy. character traits that like lead to you. know a life looking back at like 70. being like oh my god like. >> what the [ __ ] did you like the carrot. all the way here? >> Yeah. Exactly. But also there's like a. balance where like you can really. potentially accomplish really amazing. things.

>> I get what you're saying, but it's. interesting to hear you because like I. feel like. >> there's so many people that have success. and you're so scared to be like. >> wanting the normal things that come with. life that you're like, I haven't been to. a wedding in a while. Like I wasn't in. LA for like a weekend just like chill. And it you can in your mind you're like. I am I being ungrateful? Like am I. coming off like I don't appreciate what. I have? But I do think like I understand. what you're saying of like there needs. to be sometimes a better balance, but. that also is [ __ ] weird because again.

I've been in a duo where it's like. inevitably you both have different wants. for like your personal life, right? Like. maybe you have a different plan of like. do you both want kids? Do you not want. kids? Do you want to get married? And so. like you kind of have to stay somewhat. on the same page like how do you guys. navigate that? >> It just worked out kind of in some weird. way. I mean, we are very communicative. about those things and I think like we. want the happiness of the other person. So, it's like, >> you know, we've gotten this far. I don't. think we were like un we wanted, you.

know, we've always been aligned on the. goals we wanted to get and how to. achieve them. Like, but at the same. time, it's like, you know, as you get. older, you're kind of like, hey, I. recognize like all of our friends, like. all my friends are married with kids. Like, I'm probably the last person other. than like our agent. Uh, >> but do you guys feel like because it's. interesting like to have your job which. is partying and performing and like. making people have such a good time. Do. you feel like people or maybe like media. has kind of pigeonholed you into being. the same people you were 10 years ago?

>> We have a great relationship with the. media in like. >> you said that's so serious at first. I. was like really Alex? Oh my god. No talk. about that. >> Just glowing reviews. How did it evolve. of like who the Chain Smokers started as. from your opinion and who you guys are. now? Uh yeah, I mean we were just ultimately. huge that that opinion about like the. being pigeon holed I think is was DJ as. or EDM as a whole. You know, we came up. in this like super party ccentric uh.

very drug ccentric like scene, you know, that's like kind of popped probably I'd. say like 2016. Um but that was like a. whole that was a wave that we rode to. like relevancy. I guess we're young, you. know what I mean? It's like you make. mistakes and I think you know uh much. you know regret like we've grown up a. ton and and like there's a lot of things. we regret doing but I think it's just. like a natural progression for anyone. I. think there are a lot of mistakes we. avoided too by like I think we kind of. were lucky we went both went to college.

and graduated and and like didn't have. like success at 18 and become super rich. and that stuff like we understand the. value of a dollar and like working in. shitty jobs and doing you know putting. in the time. >> I can relate to that. Like I feel like I. had obviously like a very specific. persona when I started this. It was like. the sex girl. >> Yeah. >> That's the blonde that works at bar. stool. And it was like I definitely. played into what I was given and the. platform that I was kind of like going. with. But then it can get exhausting and. be like, "Hey guys, like I don't party.

like every night and like I don't like. have sex every single day like 24/7.". relate to being app. [ __ ] girls and go to sleep. Not to get. too deep, but like on more of a personal. level, how have each of you like. individually I'll start with you, Drew, like evolved as a human being since the. beginning of the success and everything.

took off to where you are now? Uh, I've calmed down a lot. I used to be. hyper insecure and I still have. insecurities, but like so much so that. like it drove me and I'm almost thankful. for it. And I always like had this like. thing inside me that wanted to be. successful and just kind of, you know, do everything but be friends with. everybody. And, you know, I had this. like idea and I was always chasing that. and I was always worried that I was. never going to do it. And I feel like. that like probably like negatively.

impacted some like relationships I had. early like through college. I just. didn't, you know, I was so focused on. what I was doing. Um, and I I wasn't. able to be like generous or I didn't. have the, you know, the mindset to like. be the be the person that I am now that. I'm I really appreciate. Uh, and I'd say. that's probably the biggest thing is, you know, I've really enjoyed just being. calm and appreciative and being able to. like, you know, help people with. opportunities that. >> he really is insanely generous to.

everybody and hosting people. It's. actually crazy how Yeah. >> It's like a hostel. >> Yeah. you live in a hostel or you host a. hostel cuz are you kind of saying like. in romantic relationships or I guess. even friendships like you couldn't be as. present and giving because you were. trying to be selfish because you were. trying to make something for yourself. >> Yeah, >> that makes sense. >> Yeah. >> What about you, Alex? >> I don't know. I was trying to think of a. good like reasonable answer to this. while he was talking. >> It was pretty good. >> Yeah, it was pretty good. I mean, I. guess if I could like reflect further.

back, I mean, my dad passed when I was. like 12 and a half or something like. that. And I think that was like very. defining moment because I remember a lot. of people coming to me and being like, there's two paths, you know, you can. kind of go that like [ __ ] up route. where you lose a parent and everything. kind of spirals out of control from. there where you kind of use this as like. a moment to catalyze like how you want. to live your life. And I was always like. an average student and had like terrible. ADHD. And I don't remember like at some. point in like late in high school, I. don't know if I just started making. lists like really something simple of.

that. It was like writing the things. down that I wanted to accomplish and do. list. >> and it just like something changed. And. I do feel like, you know, in a lot of. ways like in college, you know, when I. graduated, I was like was a receptionist. star gy not a very like awesome position. to have like they and I was not a good. one at that. and and then also like a. DJ. And I think about like my mom and my. friends that were all becoming like. doctors and Wall Street finance people. and and lawyers. And it was kind of like. crippling anxiety of being like I can. barely take care of myself. Like who.

would ever want to be with me? Like how. could I ever have a family? Like I. literally am like stealing quarters from. my roommate to get like Boston Market. And I mean that was great. >> Yeah. And he had a lot of quarters so I. didn't feel bad and and and. just like you know and and it was like. crazy. So like when to see like us kind. of materialize this thing, it was like. holy [ __ ] Like. >> I actually for the first time ever like. can take like a deep breath on some way. and be like things might actually be. okay for me and work out.

>> and I'm just super proud of like the. things we've accomplished through over. the years and it just really motivates. me to want to like just push it further. and further. Well, I appreciate you both. sharing that cuz it is interesting to. hear individually and it now makes sense. to me how you guys work so well. together. That's why I was kind of. trying to like get and I still want to. keep going just individual to then get. back to the whole because it's. interesting. I feel like both of you had. such like a drive internally wanting to. make it. I'm interested to know like how.

has that affected your like. relationships for you romantically. because The Chain Smokers has to be. priority. How do how has that affected. you guys relationships? >> That's been. I realized like looking back as time as. 2020 like a lot of the people I dated I. had to date someone that was uh down. with what we were doing. >> Um which is which was really fun. I had. a lot of awesome relationships that like.

were seriously fulfilling and fun. Um, I. think only in the past like couple years. have I like realized that probably the. person that's like down to do they have. to be down to do some stuff, but the. person who's down to do everything is. probably not the one I'm supposed to be. with. I need someone that has their own. thing that I have to go be a part of and. want to go be a part of. Uh but before. that it's been you know I realized my. selection has been very congruent with. like what served our business you know. and we work really hard and I think.

we're both now really actively I mean. you for a little bit longer than me like. really trying to. >> break out of our own heads and and have. perspective and be like wait this week. is so intense wait every week's intense. and if every week's intense then I need. to figure out a better way to deal with. it because this what am I chasing you. know? >> Yeah. Have either of you ever gone. through a breakup that the catalyst was. kind of like this isn't working for our. life right now as the chain smokers? Like this relationship isn't working for.

us essentially. >> I mean, I don't think we have influence. I feel like that's one of those funny. things like you could not like someone's. girlfriend, but like you know not you. don't say that [ __ ] you know what I. mean? Like out of the blue like if he's. upset about something then it's an. opportunity to speak. You know what I. mean? >> But don't be like, "Yo, I hate your. chick." And you're just like, "Great. Well, you want to go to dinner like. tomorrow night at all? >> Yeah. Yeah. Double date. And and not. that like that's ever even been the. case, but like I think you know like. everyone's on their own journey through. these things and I don't know like all. the intricacies of what like he loves or.

you know about someone and and vice. versa. I think again like why we've. never lived together like certain things. are good to be you know kept separate. but like more importantly it's just like. you can tell what also when the other. person is suffering yeah. >> as a result of the relationship and it's. like a delicate balance of being like. you got to let them get there themselves. you can't. >> force someone to see that truth you know. what I mean that. >> but but like also at the same time it's. like you know it's tough when that's. happening because you do feel it like. potentially affecting you know the. business but but you're like but again.

it's like there bigger things at play. here so again like the ego doesn't come. in the check and you're not like busing. the studio being like your [ __ ]. songwriting sucks like right you know. what I mean like why are you so. depressed all the time and you know. we're not making music and uh. >> songwriting sucks these days. >> although I'm sure heartbreaking. >> you're too happy in your relationship. it's a great it's a great catalyst. >> that is like that's toxic though because. I had sometimes where I was like I'll. just go on the date cuz it's going to. give me great content and I was like. >> like things aren't going well you're. like. >> yeah you're like let's go this song is. going to be [ __ ] killer he's like so.

depressed. Get broken up with like do. something and then get in the [ __ ]. studio. So, you said you're in a. relationship. >> How long have you been in a. relationship? >> About 3 years, maybe a little longer. Three and a half. >> Yeah. Yeah. She's great. >> Really good. I mean, I'm She's amazing. And I think to like his point what he. said, like you kind of acknowledge. somehow. I feel like a lot of the people. you date are kind of a reaction to the. last person in some ways, like looking. for things that were missing or didn't. fulfill you in some capacity. and you. kind of like stumble along potentially. until you kind of unlock something where.

you're like, "Oh, I get what I like what. I what I really need now out of this.". >> You guys have very full lives and like. you're public and you know, I feel like. you need someone that's not just like up. your ass being like Drew and Alex like. I'll do whatever you want. It's like I'm. sure at times that's worked because you. need someone that's going to be doing. that but in actual relationship the. person needs to be like hey it's not all. about you. >> Yeah. And you don't just like I have a. life too. >> You just don't [ __ ] know. Like you. know what I Like I really sympathize. like with single people and people in. bad relationships and you know like it's.

not easy. >> What about you, Drew? Single. relationship? >> Uh I'm in a relationship. >> Okay. >> It's like fairly new a couple months. >> It's exciting. How did you guys meet? >> We got set up on a date a year ago. >> Fun. >> And it was the worst date either of us. had ever been on. >> Not fun. >> Yeah. It was just like zero vibes. Just. misconnection. and didn't see each other for I think. like 6 months after that and then last. summer it just kept running into each. other and then the bad date become.

became like a fun conversation point and. we like hit it off on like the 4th of. July and then started hanging out. thenish and August and then started. dating I guess like September probably. >> Look at the two of you just in like your. healthy dynamics. >> Have either of you ever not liked the. other person's partner? For sure. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> For sure. >> How did you handle it? >> I think Alex kind of touched on it. earlier where you can't say, "Yo, this.

is like not right for you." Out of. context. It has to be something has to. happen and you know, one of us comes to. the other and says, >> but you know, I mean, like, you know, you're always like hoping to be like. he'll understand what. >> and we've all seen it now. We're like so. intimate with our entire crew. We've. seen like every like from our tour. manager to our drummer to our like our. our agent, we've seen them all date the. wrong person and like we've all taken. our like little trip down that road. And. it's funny because when it's happening. to somebody else, you're like that's.

never going to happen to me. And then it. shows up in a different format. >> and boom, it happens to me. >> And while you're in that format, it's. like, you know, you're like, yo, [ __ ]. they hate her. >> And you know, but you're like, but. you're like, they just don't know her. yet. Like I know her. And then you're. like, "No, they do really know her and. I'm just wrong about this.". >> Like that's the worst when you're in a. relationship where when you find. yourself saying that, if anyone is. watching this and you're like, "They. just don't get it." That's probably the. first red flag to be like, "No, they get. it. You don't [ __ ] get it.". >> And that's the thing. It's like you look. about a lot a lot of relationships and.

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Illinois. >> Okay. So I was seeing somebody and you. know over the course of the relationship. it was just like all these fights kept. happening that I didn't really like. understand why. Like I would just get. like a text when we were like on tour. and be like you're a [ __ ] [ __ ]. And I'd be like I don't know what I. could have possibly have just done. And. and it would be like you know what you. did. And I'd be like no I'm ask like. that's why I'm asking you what what did. I do? And it was just like and then she. would like disappear for 2 days and it. was just like the most unhel you know. and you're just like I don't know what's.

happening like I feel like I'm losing my. mind. And one day I I've lived you know. with this my friend of mine Craig he's. like an ex firefighter and uh he's kind. of the he's like uncle Craig and uh and. >> Uncle Craig. >> Yeah he's very uncle Craig. >> And you know I forgot what happened. We. got in a fight about something and I was. like and it was the sort of thing where. I was like like you know when we were. you know it's like looking through. Instagram and being like oh damn that. girl's like super hot man. And it would. be like wish I wish on a star and you. know and then like and then like the. girlfriend would be like.

>> what the [ __ ] did you say? I wish on a. star. >> Not what we say. >> Yeah. Yeah. A really pissy way of you. know. >> I wish on a star. >> I wish on a star I could. >> I could hang out with that beautiful. nice smart woman. >> Yeah. But like you know it's like guy. talk where you'll be like Dan that. girl's you know ass is amazing or. whatever. And then like I got lit up. about this and I like told my I went to. Craig and I was like Craig did you. [ __ ] tell her that we were saying it. like you know like a like we're just. like talking about this how hot this. girl is and he was like of course not. kidding me why would I do that and I was.

like how else would she have known like. this is just weird and he was and it was. like in passing and he was just like. house is bugged dude and I was like nah. And so anyways, these fights kept. happening and and then on my birthday, the girl was like, I am going to uh I'm. going to can because I I don't work in. the film industry, but it's really. important that I go and which I totally. related and understood and totally she. needed to go. >> and so she left and and like you know. she was pissed at me like disappeared, didn't say bye and it was like you know.

I think she was going for like a few. weeks and I was like damn what a shitty. way to leave on that note but I was like. all right you know [ __ ] it and I was. like. >> you were you were really annoying on. that birthday. You got really drunk. >> I did get really drunk. I tried to fight. the elephante door guy. >> Yeah. >> What about the elephante door guy? I'm. sure he's so nice. >> I had to give him 100 bucks. >> Yeah. >> But you were just pissed. You were in a. bad place. >> No, I was just hammered. I mean, this. didn't even have anything to do with. her. I was just a drunk guy. And um. >> but and she her leaving had nothing to. do with you being drunk, too. >> Just to clarif, you know, my sister hated her. Everyone.

didn't like her at this point. And you. hated her drunk. >> He definitely hated her. And at this. point, I was like, I think I probably. should call this soon. like I was. beginning to get those vibes, but but I. was also like I'm such an optimist, you. know, like it's hard for me to kind of. like pull that rug out. So anyway, she. bounces and then I'm like sitting at. like my table in my kitchen and I just. kind of see this thing out of the corner. of my eye that's wasn't there like a day. ago and basically like two exes ago had. bought me this this dog pet treat camera.

where you can like shoot treats out of. it and it's like motion sensor record. and so the dog walks up to it and the. camera turns on and alerts your phone. >> Yeah. and you shoot a treat out. And so. I had gotten this gift and I never set. it up because it was just kind of just. complicated and we were just busy all. the time and whatever. And I, you know, but one day it was like sitting on this. table and I was like, "Oh, that's kind. of, you know, odd that it's out, but. like it's not it's on it's not for a. dog. My dog's not getting any treats, so. surely this thing's not hooked up and. and it's plugged into like the outlet.". And I was like, "Huh, I guess my. housekeeper saw this like hanging wire.

and was like, "Let me plug it in." such. an. >> so I unplug it and like plug my you know. I'm a Jewel smoker so I was like it's. the only outlet for my Jewels so I would. plug it and this went on for like in my. head looking back months I was like I. kept unplugging this thing and then one. day I was like sick of like unplugging. it and plugging it back in that I was. like I'm putting this thing and putting. it in a drawer and this is annoying why. is this out. >> right. >> and this is like when she left for Ken. but miraculously the thing is like back. on the table now and then it was like. the Matrix it was like.

>> oh my god I've been getting spied on for. like 7 months by this [ __ ] pet camera. and I get up close to it and she had. like blacked out the recording light. like really. >> with a marker. >> with a marker and then covered it with. an additional piece of electrical tape. perfectly cut out. >> that you would never have noticed it. >> This [ __ ] is genius. >> And I was like. >> I WAS LIKE WE GOT HER. YOU KNOW WHAT I. MEAN? And we went on the security. cameras and there's video of like she. like walks downstairs into the kitchen, notices the cameras like unplugged, o.

goes over, opens a cabinet. So the So. she's already scouted the actual house. security cameras. >> She like looks up, opens the door, does. something like behind the door for like. a weirdly long time and then closes it. and leaves and then the thing's plugged. in. >> Yeah. >> And so it's crazy. >> and so it was wild and so I was like how. do we like broach this? Like Ir was like. it's red-handed. You know what I mean? There's no like doubt in my mind now. It's like sometimes, you know, like. you'll be like, "Oh, so and so saw you. with the club." Like, you know, be this. girl. And you're like, "I don't know who. to believe." Like this was like I've got. your ass. Like 100%. And so I was like,

"We can do a couple things right now. We. can like play along with this and like. maybe I get like a fake ring and then. like tell Craig I'm going to like. propose and like do. >> and get her to admit it." Yeah. >> Yeah. get her to see it on the camera. and then but never bring it up and just. leave her in this like suspenseful while. she's watching from Ken. >> but then I was like [ __ ] I kind of want. to just be single and have fun this. [ __ ] camera. >> We were like please just get to that. face. >> Yeah. So I just like call her up and I. was just like yeah you know and she was. like so angry. She's like what? And I.

was like you tell me I found a camera in. my house that you've been spying me on. She was like you're [ __ ] crazy and. this. I was like it's not we don't have. to fight. It's so genius the fact that. like she got an alert every time like at. 3:00 a.m. that him and Craig are sitting. at the front table having guys talk. >> Yeah. >> So she watched all of his like late. night conversations. >> They'd be like, "What did you say about. like you know so and so?" And you'd be. like, "I don't understand. Like I've. never even talked to this girl before.". You know, it's like an Instagram person. that like, you know, like or he brings.

us up. >> That is so epic and truly so genius and. so [ __ ] genius. It is. You got to. give her credit. I I give her credit. only if I was like in a position where. like she thought you were being super. shady and she wanted to catch you. But. >> I never I never I was a totally totally. good boy. >> You were a saint. >> I really was in this one. Yeah. >> And you know what I think it's like. that's almost like if you get someone's. iPad or you get a way to like look at. their [ __ ] you have to stop eventually. We wrote a song about you did. >> Yeah. It's called iPad.

>> Oh yes, you guys did. Oh wow. Was it It. wasn't about that. You you should make. one about what. >> you know why you go through the iPad, right? >> I've been through the iPad before. >> Cuz if you go through the phone, they. delete text, but it comes up on the. iMessage on the iPad. >> Oh, I've been in the situation where I. literally handed him the iPad right now. Yeah, >> cuz he showed his phone. I'm like, "Your. phone looks so beautiful. It's like your. mom and your aunt and me and your. grandma. Open the [ __ ] iPad, you. piece of shit." And all of the sexy. stuff. I was like, "Wow." I was just.

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>> I mean like Yeah. Like you like date a. couple girls and shout. >> out to Mai. >> Yeah, I was I was a frat bro. >> Oh, you were a frat guy. So you had a. nice time. >> Yeah. >> And you went to NYU, Alex? >> Yeah, I was a New York City boy. I was. like a a terrible club. I was like a. quantity club promoter, not a quality. Like, but like I loved, you know, your. >> career. You actually were a club. promoter. >> Oh, for sure. >> This is so great. >> But it was like it taught me honestly. like I know this is like shout out to. all my club promoters out there, you. know, making ends meet. Uh but uh but I. like it taught me a lot about like.

staying in touch with people and like. you know like how do you differentiate. like a stupid night out that's the same. night every night from a different club. to the next and how do you like. >> you know like make your thing a little. bit more special than the other guy or. whatever. That's the other club. And and. like for me like you know I think at. this part of my life girls were always. sort of a challenge you know like I. again I was like stealing quarters. I. wasn't exactly like desirable beyond. like whatever crappy table I was like. getting two free bottles at or. something. And and I think but it did. like I think h force me to like have a.

bit more of a personality. You know what. I mean? >> The self-awareness. >> Also I will attest like Alex's club. personality is is remarkable. There's no. one better in a club. like he can have a. full conversation and I he doesn't even. hear the other person but his reaction. is so genuine that keeps them talking. and keeps them engaged and then he'll. just pick off I guess where you like. left off and like you're like I love. that guy and he's like I don't know who. that is and I didn't understand a word. they said. >> I I really respect that because the club. promoter you can be the creepy club.

promoter which I don't think you were. >> No, I wasn't the creepy club promoter. >> Well, we couldn't even if you were we. would never know. >> I wouldn't No one would have come back. No one would come back right I do. respect that. Um, okay. I want to hear. from both of you, Drew. Obviously, I. know you're both in relationships, but. like what is Alex's type? >> I'm curious what line you're going to. draw between all these. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like like physically. >> Oh, just all around. kind of like.

>> I mean I I would say like up until his. current girlfriend who I adore. >> uh he has he's attracted to like some. kind of severe issue. >> Yeah, for real. Like like the thing. about every up until the current one. like just want to clarify. >> Moo. We love Moo. Moo's great. Close. with the family. Like very empathetic. Takes your side. Takes all of our side. you know like she's amazing. There was. always something like [ __ ] up with. every single other one.

>> Yeah. Yeah, it's probably fair. >> And like that but that that's like what. got you. You know what I mean? Like I. feel like it made it like entertaining. for you. >> Yeah. I mean, you're also like again I. don't know. You're might be right. >> I really I really appreciate the honesty. and I like how you received that. There. was no defensiveness. You were just open. and you accepted that. >> And none of them were the right ones. That's for sure. >> Right. There you go. >> They're all great too in their own. perspective. These weren't great for me. >> Totally. But they all got one thing. >> severely. Seriously, something is wrong.

with them. >> Watch yourself in New York now. >> I know on the street. >> Jesus Christ. >> Um, okay. Alex, what is Drew's type? >> I mean, it's a kind of similar thing in. the way that like I think both our. current girlfriends are like very. radically different from like the. previous like it's like something. changed or clicked, you know, which I. also think is true. Like I'm not. conciting like our last album release. and changing our lives, but like in some. ways like something did happen like in. the last year and a half or two years. with us that I think like whether it's. our insecurity or just the confidence. that we have and like ourselves or you.

know just like like knowing who we want. to be as we get older cuz I think maybe. like he liked girls that were like part. of like the scene a little bit and maybe. had that like. >> like if you people were excited, you. know what I mean? It like like it was. like oh you can't believe like you're. dating that person. sort of. >> so like they you're saying they were. excited about the lifestyle that Drew. presented. >> I don't know if that's like totally fair. like a common thread between all of them. because like some of them like didn't. enjoy going mountain some like [ __ ]. love going out like some like loved you.

know their power of their social media. and other ones like cared less about it. you know but I think it was like uh like. a like a like a. >> being out yes. >> out there you know outside. >> they loved the life. Did you feel that. in the moment? Um, I mean like most of the girls I dated. were like very and like I still have. great relationships with all of them. Um, first of all, um, >> I don't know if that's a good or bad. thing. I mean, they're friends with all.

their accent. >> Like my bridges are so burned like. >> like I'm so It's like pangia, you know. what I mean? Versus now the now the. world as you know it. >> God, you can't see them on the street. That [ __ ] will just. >> No, I thought I was gonna get stabbed. the last time I saw one of my exes and I. like had to leave out of like pure fear. of my own life. Uh. >> and then Drew is like, I'm friends with. all of them. They're everywhere. So. close. Like they're all we're not close, but like you know, I just. >> It's chill. >> You know, >> it's chill. Okay, fair. >> Like what's there to be mad? But it was.

just like this is kind of done now. That's how I how I I felt. >> Are you guys the type of people that. would go back to exes ever? >> My [ __ ] is burned. They ain't on my. back. It's done. >> Ow. It is. They like go down and like. >> like yours feel like they really end. dramatic. >> There's no like like hook I think like. maybe one time like an ex when she was. like blacked out like showed up in my. door and was like I'm down to have sex. with you like one more time, >> right? >> And that was like 18 years ago. >> Yeah. So like that like it was a long.

time since that happened. But I'm glad. because I do see like a lot of couples. have that like really annoying six, eight month like weird buffer where. you're just like what's happening here? Like you know like why do we still why. is she still around? We no one likes. her. She doesn't like you. We know this. >> Like you know. So I think in some ways. like the hard cut is like important for. both people to kind of move on. >> Is is Drew good at the hard cut? >> I would say on more on the no side. >> No. Yeah.

>> I'm not good on the hard cut. >> Yeah. But you're getting better. >> I mean, I'm dating someone now. Like, it's not like it's not, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes. you would linger back. >> Yeah. Like, you break up like, "Oh, we're still friends.". >> Oh my god. Drew is the guy that's just. right on back. >> But I think we both care about I mean, this is like I wish we didn't. But we. really cared what people think. Like you. don't want to leave. Like I I don't Does. it make me like happy that like all my. exes like blow my brain out if they. could like see me, you know? And. >> have either of you ever been cheated on? >> Probably. Actually, I know I have for.

sure. >> Yeah. >> How did you find out? >> Um, yeah, I'll let him go first. >> Well, like Okay. What's the definition. of cheating? >> Emotional or physical? >> Okay. Um, yeah, definitely. >> Why? What were you thinking of? >> Yeah. Well, like like physically I know. about one time. Okay. But it was like. one it was like the thing where like the. girl I was on in New York and the girl. like broke up with meish was like I need. a break and then like [ __ ] some other. dude and I like knew that happened and.

then I she got back together with me. like two weeks later and I was like. >> so just flicked through the old phone. and boom there it was right there. There. it was. >> You got to look through the for the best. friend text. >> Yeah. >> Not you don't look for the guy, you look. for the best friend. >> Drew knows that's that's someone that's. definitely been cheated on. Is that what. you is that what you were saying is like. what considered cheating cuz what you. were on a break or was there a different. thing of like emotional? >> Oh no, there's another like emotional. thing. >> That's rough. Yeah. >> How did you find out the iPad?

>> iPad. >> Always the iPad. What about you? How did. you find out you got cheated on Alex? >> Uh I mean I think it's happened like. maybe like two or three times or uh but. >> it it was all for the best. Uh. >> that's good. That's good. >> But I think how was the first time? I. think the first time I was just like. >> it was just so obvious. You know what I. mean? It was just like I just didn't. know how like the like. >> like you can feel when it's happening. >> Yeah. Yeah. I just couldn't figure it. out and and like they just, you know, they just lied over and over again. So, you didn't really like have proof until. finally I think they just like I don't.

remember. It was just again it was like. the someone told me and then you were. just like show me the you know what I. mean? It was like this is it. >> and then it was like again it was like a. relief. It was like thank God cuz like I. this was like so such a waste. Anyways, but the really funny one and by the way, like just speak in general for everyone. out there. Like I actually don't think. looking through people's phones is. healthy, including my like you have to. practice what you're preach. Like I. think like on some levels like if you. feel like something is like really. [ __ ] off, then like sure, go get your. proof, but like just because you've like.

been in a bad relationship in the past. doesn't like give you creative freedom. to go and design, >> right? But. >> but in this case, >> I was like, "Something's [ __ ] up.". Like, you know, and I could not like, you know what I mean? And I was like, I. >> Are you going to tell the. >> Craigslist one story? >> Oh, nice. >> What? Tell me. >> I don't know which one's worse. >> Craigslist. >> This is like way long ago. This is like. I was at NYU when this happened. This is. like Blackberry. There's not even. iPhones. Like, I don't think you could. even lock a Blackberry. >> Okay, we're ready. >> This is a good one.

>> And uh and I was just like so over it. I. was like this, you know, like this. girl's being shady with a friend of mine. that I introduced to her, like a guy, another girl. And I was just like I. thought it was like maybe like like a. drug thing or whatever. I couldn't. figure it out. And I was just like kind. of at the end of it and whatever. And I. always had a problem too of girls moving. in with me too fast. >> Uh which I think is like a very New York. thing to do cuz like it's hard to like. survive in New York. So it's like you. kind of just like come on in, come on. down, live in my studio apartment with. me. Uh, and uh, and so I remember going.

and looking in the bathroom. I had no. idea what I was going to find. And I was. like, same thing. Went to the best. friend text and it was like, you know, all about getting blow. You know what I. mean? So I was like, oh, maybe that's. the problem. She's just like it kind of. has like a drug problem right now and. she's wrapped up in that. Like that's. not so bad. But then it was like. unveiled. It was like it was like how do. we get like we're out of money. Like how. do we get blown? And it was like I have. an idea like why don't you go on. Craigslist and like pee on somebody? And. I was like, "Oh my god." I was like, "Oh.

no." You know what I mean? And I was. like, "So I And then there were the. emails." And it was like she was peeing. on people. >> Yeah. >> There were the emails. >> There they were. And this is like not. tech. This is not like today's. technology, too. This is like. Blackberry, you know what I mean? And uh. and I was just kind of like I remember. just like you know I wasn't even mad cuz. it was like kind of such a bizarre. >> I feel like that's a good way to go out. like it's almost better that it was like. >> story like I can't tell a lot of other.

breakup stories like this is a great. story and it like wasn't a big deal in. the like history of my you know like so. you like laugh about these things and. you're just kind of like I remember just. like waking up and I was just like you. know. >> know you're peeing on people and for. drugs and we just got to. >> we just got to call we're going to have. to we're going to have to call But now. >> you can't live with me anymore. >> You can't blame me. >> She's like I didn't hook up with them. and I was like. >> we're getting like you know like we're. really getting granular here about like. what's happening. >> She like it wasn't in their mouth. It. was just on the You're like I don't want.

to know where you. >> I was more like you're super hot. Like. who's the lucky guy that was like hit up. some Craigslist ad to like get a girl to. PM and then like you showed up like. >> like a jackpot. You know what I mean? Like I that's where my head was at. I. was like, I don't know what you're. charging, but like. >> that is such an incredible story that I. think you're right. You can take pride. in that. It's not sad. It's like a once. in a lifetime. She found her like niche. on Craigslist and she went with it. >> I just like I how manipulated she got. Like her friend was like, "You should go.

do this." Even though like they were. both doing the drug. It was like, "Why. don't you go pee? Like you're not in a. relationship." And it's like, "No, no, no. You do it." Yeah. >> Wow. Alex, you've got some great story. times today. >> Good old man. Do you guys even talk. about sex with each other? >> Yeah, absolutely. All the time. >> Oh, you do? >> Yeah. Oh, >> I don't know. I feel like some guys are. >> just I want to clarify like the sweater. was a bad choice. I'm so warm. >> Take it off. >> Yeah, >> take it off. >> Okay, I'm going to do that. I'm like. really red right now. I just want to. clarify in here after Alex was talking. about peeing and the women taking the.

whatever. >> I'm not into that [ __ ] by the way, everybody. Just for the record. Otherwise, I would have stayed with her. >> Can we make sure is on? We're almost. done. I promise. I'm not going to keep. you guys too much longer. Yeah, >> I knew I knew everyone was getting hot. Do you want to take your sweater off? >> No, I'm cool with cucumber. >> Okay. >> Drew's like, >> I'm dying. I feel some heat, but I'm. okay. >> So, you guys talk about sex with each. other. >> Yeah. >> Okay. You guys obviously don't need to. say like the name of someone, but when I. say this question, if someone comes to mind, like who is.

the best sex you've ever had? You don't. have to say their name, but like explain. why. >> Yeah. [ __ ] I wish I I don't know the. answers. >> Um. looked up. So go ahead, Drew. >> Um. I I felt like I was very first of all, it was someone I wasn't dating. >> and it was like it was like a hookup. situation that was super random and like. last minute and like happened a couple.

times. >> Um and I think like the spontaneity of. the whole thing was amazing. There was. zero expectations. Um, and then every. now and then, and this is really rare. because, you know, a lot of times, especially, you know, if you really care. about someone before you hook up for the. first time, it's sometimes really hard. to like perform how you want to perform. and like receive love the same way. And, uh, I think on both sides and, you know, kind of when you have like spontaneous. sex with someone that you're just like. into, you just kind of have like there's. nothing there's none of that. Um, but.

it's also really rare in those. situations that you find someone that's. like you're successually connected with. Um, you know, you can have average sex. with anybody, but like every now and. then like you'll have like a hookup. that's just. >> great. >> Yeah. You're both on the same page. You're into the same things. Your bodies. fit together the right way. Like that. type vibe. >> That's a great answer. Which one of you. is more likely in the past to hook up. with a fan? >> Toss up. >> Yeah. Really depends on the city.

>> Yeah. Let's get it. >> I was I would I figured you'd ask a. question like that and like when you say. fan, you mean like someone at our show. or like a diehard fan? Because I don't. think we've ever hooked up with like a. diehard fan. Like no one wearing merch. or anything. >> Okay. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. That's really fair. >> Take the merch off their body. >> You're wearing my face. >> Still hot. Um Okay. So, just like. someone at your concert. That's fair. >> Yeah. Yeah. Toss up. >> It's a to both of you getting Okay, that's fair. How often do people propose.

threesomes with the two of you? And how. often have you accept it? >> Get out of my head. >> This is up to you to answer. >> I don't want to answer this question. >> It's caller daddy. >> How often is it proposed? >> It's not proposed a lot. >> Seldom. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But it's a lot of man for it's a. lot of man. >> But it's happened. >> Does it count if it's internationally?

>> I'm so proud of you guys. Was it What. did you look at each other differently. that morning? >> The first time. >> All the times. >> I think we were just like, "What the. [ __ ] just happened because like it. wasn't like a they were never planned. You know what I mean? It was always like. >> just like I don't know what is happening. right now but like I'm also just like. >> I don't know where's that. It's weird. I'm not going to lie. I don't know like. how.

>> like that's how Three Sims happened. though. >> in any way. >> Absolutely. It's usually this just. starts oh it's oh that okay I guess. we're doing that. >> It's been a long time. You know what I. mean? But in the early days it was also. like the days when we like we used to. have to like share hotel rooms like you. know what I mean? like we would be in. Europe. They have the two beds. They. don't even split them apart. >> You know what I mean? Like they. literally have two singles. >> So it's like almost by forced. We were. forced. >> That sounds crazy. >> You were forced to have a threesome. >> by the European government because they.

don't separate their beds, >> right? You just had to make the most of. this the bad situation. >> They just separated the beds. >> like America does. >> Right. Right. Right. So you just made it. work. >> Yeah. >> Do you guys remember your first one? Like, did you look at each other. differently? >> I was like, man, this guy's. >> Uh, >> this guy's hot. >> I'm glad he's my partner. >> Yeah, I think I'm actually blushing now. Now. it's not the heat. Yeah, I'm actually. blushing. I'm just so concerned about.

how what Alex just said is going to be. taken. >> No, I think it's great. I think part the. government. >> The We were forced. >> No, >> not by the women. By the government. Yeah, >> by the government. The government forces. you to do all kind of things. >> There's just a lot. I mean, we had a lot. of mileage on these tires. You know what. I mean? It's. >> good. It's good. >> Yeah. >> Have you guys ever been into the same. person? And how do you deal with that? >> We can't even move on or just like Drew. is like, "Okay, I need to go.". >> Yeah.

>> It's okay. Drew is going to be okay. >> I don't think we ever have hooked up. with the same person, >> but I'm not positive. >> Um, you just said you had a [ __ ]. threesome. >> True. >> Oh, that's a good point. But like I thought you meant like. separately. >> Have you? Okay. Yeah, that's fair. Okay. Fair, fair, fair. What's the one thing. for you both that you're like, I really. like this from someone in bed. For all. the ladies listening, give us a little. tip. >> I mean, confidence, >> you know, like someone who like knows. what they like that can just take. control. And like there's a lot of um.

you people that just don't do that. Like. I mean, as you know, it goes both ways. You know, >> it like doesn't even have to be right. just like confidence of like this is. what I'm trying to do right now, you. know? And like I think especially like. from the beginning when you hook up with. someone and they're like I'm trying to. like [ __ ] you instead of like whatever. you want to do is so much hotter. >> I mean do can I just say the same same? Yeah. Same. I mean that is true though. You know what I mean? But I think it. cuts both ways also. Like you can be. confident and submissive at the same.

time. >> I agree with that. >> Yeah. >> Um what type of women intimidate you? >> All of them. >> Yeah. >> Your exes out. All of them. >> are terrifying. >> Uh. kind of women intimidate. Um. very stylish women. >> Yeah. Because I I am trying my best with. my style and when I see someone who has. it like male or female, I I just see it.

I see it as a form of intelligence that. is just very subtle and tasteful and. >> um. >> you know I don't think I have amazing. style but I'm interested in it and when. I see someone that just really kills it. on either side I'm like damn that. person's got some swagger to them. I. wonder what that else they think about. that way. >> I'm I'm a dress like a slob. So it's. just like doesn't affect me at all. I. respect it but it doesn't. >> it doesn't intimidate me but but I. respect it. I think it's great. I mean, I think any form of like self-expression. like that that like people really care.

about is is like incredible. Um, and it. like I'm bummed that I don't have the. like capacity to go the distance. >> Uh, so. >> you got other stuff going on. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. You put on a sweater to worry. about. >> You look great. >> Yeah. This is a cardigan that I'm very. fond of. >> Okay. This is the most listened to. podcast by women. >> Yeah. >> Is there anything you want to say to. just like the women? >> Make amends. >> Yeah.

You may have offended on this episode. >> I was going to say, is there anything. you would want to say to like the women. of the world listening from the chain? >> Ironically, like I mean, I grew up in a. house full of women, funny enough, and I. know like your mom is one of your like. biggest inspirations and best like. friendships and and and like I know in. general I almost feel like we I feel. like I have more in common with like. like the females in my life in terms of. how we can relate to them. And it's just. it's really cool to have this. opportunity to be on the show and. hopefully we didn't make too big a fool. of ourselves and you know I'm honestly a. huge fan of your it's like really cool.

to see anyone but like especially you. know you in this case like create such. an amazing brand that like inspires. people and I think that at the end of. the day like if you can go out and. inspire like three or four people to say. like I can just be myself and people. will acknowledge me for that and you. know and celebrate that that's like. pretty much the greatest thing you know. that we could have asked for. >> Did I spin that? That was good. >> That was nice. >> That was good. I was freestyling out. there. >> You're like, "How is that going to go. with the press? Is that going to work?". You guys are amazing. Thank you so much, Chain Smokers. It was an honor. Thank. you for coming on Caller Daddy.

>> Thank you, Alex. >> Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. >> Sweet.