Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (Full Episode)

Spencer Pratt, you will obviously never. be as relevant as you were. How does. that make you feel? Oh, yeah? [ __ ] you. [ __ ] this interview, this. stupid podcast. [ __ ] this [ __ ] It's. over in here. Is he actually leaving? What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. Okay, here we go.

Mr. Uh it's A PRATT. HUH! OH MY GOD. LOOK AT THIS OUTFIT. I love. it. Oh my god, it's so nice to meet you. me. Oh my god, the devil? Well, second I get in my car, it's never. happened in my life. It says engine. coolant. I'm like, what the [ __ ] does. that mean? So, go to the gas station. I'm like, oh, I'll buy engine coolant. I. put it in and it's like spraying out. I. call BMW service. They're like, you need. a tow right now. I'm We're like, I got. to go to Call Her Daddy. No, [ __ ] THE CAR.

OH MY GOD. OKAY, do you Can you mic. yourself up immediately? Cuz we're we're. getting into this. This is very fancy. Wait, isn't it cute? It's my Spencer, it's the first time I'm using these. Well, I feel honored. I'm honored because I knew you were. someone that would know how to put it on. and use it. I usually let them do it. That's like. the perks. That's like So, I should have. done it. Okay, we're going over here to. make a drink. All right. Oh, you didn't. even get good tequila. Oh, this is. embarrassing. I I won't actually touch these bottles. Wait, are you serious? Oh, I can't be on.

camera with that level. Wait, what do. you drink? I mean, as bootleg enough. would be like Clase Azul is low as we're. going to go. This is all I had from like. a random. You I'll watch. I'm not You're not. getting me on camera holding I mean, this was I drink this in. Wait, do I have anything else? Spencer, I tried. Come on. Spotify, what is going on? Budget cuts. I have a champagne bottle. Okay, so Spencer, right off the bat is. just [ __ ] on me for not having.

it. And that that car coolant I was a block. Okay, yeah, let's talk about what. happened. All right, so I get in the car. I was. going to be very early. I was going to. sit in the car, meditate, you just. visualize the best freaking podcast. ever. And I get in the car and it says. engine coolant. I'm like, I'm not a. mechanic, but this looks seems bad. So I. go to the car place real quick. I'm. like, I need engine coolant. I'm very. late to the biggest podcast of my life. statistically. Um and so he's like, "Oh my god, it's.

leaking everywhere." And I'm like, "Pour. more in." So he poured more in. I called. BMW. They're like, "You need to tow it. here right now." I'm like, "I'm not towing it." They're like, "The. car could shut down on you on the way. there." I'm like, "Well, then it's going. to shut down cuz I'm not missing this.". Let's pop the dom. Okay, okay, do you want to pop the dom? I mean, I'll drink that. Okay, let's do that. Let's do that. That's That's a better way to go about. it. Okay, I feel like you should do the. honors. You know, here's the thing I've learned. cuz Heidi's a professional champagne. bottle opener. I used to like the like.

excitement of But she. Yeah, and she Yeah, and she's like, "No, you're not even supposed to have like. barely a noise. It's not a game to like, you know, you guard that you come in. like that. You treat it like that because people. always You're going to. So the key what I've been taught is you. just slowly. It's It's less exciting, but Well, it's. not. Yeah, let's not waste this money. I mean, kicking off the Call Her Daddy.

podcast, beautiful. Cheers to the daddy game. Cheers. I am. so honored to be involved with your. mafia that you have. I'm so honored you're here. They're. going to love you. Spencer, you are. popping off on Tik Tok. I need to know, what is your strategy? It was drinking. and then that's why I haven't been. Tok-ing. Well, here's what happened. Here's what happened. I don't know how. it happened. So, what people loved to. So, I had to stop because Heidi was.

like, "You play the Hills in the house. anymore, like I'm going to choke you.". Like, she can't even. It's like nails on. a chalkboard. So, then I'm like, "Honey, these are going a viral." Like, this one. just did a mil in like 10 minutes, and. she's like, "I don't care." Like, "Stop. talking about that." So, I'm like, "It's. relevant to a niche micro audience, honey." So, That is [ __ ] hilarious. It's a hard balance because I'm also. blowing up all these people that I can't. stand. So, it's like, "Do I Like, I'm. like, "Oh, the views." But, I'm like,

"Nobody, you know." I kind of love that. Heidi's like, "Spencer, knock it the. [ __ ] off." And you're like, "Can't hear. you. A million views. Got to go." This. is so delicious. I can't believe you don't have a. charcuterie plate though for us. Okay, we're going upstairs for the. interview. Are you ready? Should we. bring this or not? Let's leave it. You. need to drive home in your [ __ ] up. car. I'm towing it. Oh, here? You're towing. it here? It's a whole situation. But, I wasn't supposed to get here. Is Heidi. picking you up? I said I would have What. do you call it? A black Uber X. You.

know, whatever. Spencer, it's all about. the money. Let's go upstairs. Oh my. gosh. All right. Deep breath. No, I'm praying. You're praying? Do you want to pray out loud? Please, God, have this just be the.

greatest podcast to ever hit the waves. of this dimension. Have it just touch so. many people's hearts in a positive, enlightening way, God, and just truly be. a blessing for everyone's ears. and if. they're visually watching this with. captions, just when they read it, just. have their spirit just be uplifted and. inspired. Amen. That was a little too much Holy Spirit.

I almost fainted there. Oh my god. Oh my. god. Do you Do you believe in God? Oh, yeah. But I mean, Heidi like took it. to the next level cuz she's like a. preacher. Really? Like I was trying to. be in the Illuminati when I met Heidi. Wait, were you really? I didn't realize they're like drinking. blood and you know, all the weird weird. I thought it was just like sex parties. like Eyes Wide Shut, you know. Oh, right. Everybody older than you know, 18 and. you know, like. You wanted to be a part of the sex. parties. Not just the the party, but.

like that like. Like the Tom Cruise movie. Like that. looks, you know, pretty. minus like people disappearing. It. looked like. Totally. my vibe. Thank you for kicking us off. I. feel really zen and calm. I almost just. started crying. I don't know if it was. tears of joy or laughter, but it was. something. You got an emotion out of me. I mean, it it hit me too. I don't know. It's good AC in here, but it was Like I. almost fainted. Okay, Spencer Pratt, welcome to Call Her Daddy. I'm so honored. You grew up in. California.

going to school with celebrities and. celebrities' kids. Who was the first. famous person you remember meeting in. your life? Oh, hands down, Meryl Streep. I was on the set of Death Becomes Her. I. think that's the title where she's like. falling apart. So, shout out. She would. deny knowing me at this point, but I I. think her name is Mamie Gummer. Uh we. were BFFs. We're very young. We would go. set and it was Meryl Streep and I would. be chilling on set. So,

yeah. I did not expect that answer. That's [ __ ] baller. Oh, I mean, it. I went to crossroads. The list like goes. on, but that's like if my. the cool like just in this mansion and. you know, I mean, then it's next thing. you know I'm having a slumber party with. Hillary Clinton, you know. So, I mean. like my childhood. you have to clarify. You're having a. slumber party with Hillary Clinton? What. do you mean? So, my best friend Charlie, uh his. parents were best friends with the. Clintons from Arkansas. And so, when I. was a kid, you know, I'd always sleep.

over Charlie's house, but one night, you. know, you know, I was pre-checked, you. know, I knew this was going to happen. So, Secret Service did their thing. I. think I was a safe 14-year-old or. whatever. And so, yeah, it was a slumber. party. I was in the kitchen with. Hillary. It was wild. So, you referenced. your high school and how you were. surrounded by like a lot of famous. people. What were you like in high. school and what did the other kids think. about you? Well, I try to say that I am exactly,

you know, I've learned a lot of lessons, but I would say I'm the exact same. person that I've always been and I. haven't changed. So, you know, I just as. many people that didn't like me back. then, you know, I had, you know, enemies. putting up, you know, dicks drawn on my. face around town, you know. So, I came. in it like hot, you know. So, I think. because. you know, for my private school world, soccer was our big sport. We didn't have. a football teams, so. um I was for my world really good at.

soccer, so I was on the older teams. So, you know, when I was 15, all the. seniors, I was rolling with them. So, I. you know, everything got fast forward. Like when I. watch I don't watch Euphoria, but when I. see clips, I'm like, "Oh my god, this is. the Disney Channel." compared to like LA. and growing up, you know. Now it's. crazier cuz you just die of fentanyl and. whatever. So, it's it's definitely like. darker now, so I I pray for these kids, but. um it was amazing. Everyone's always. like, "Oh, why don't you like write a.

like people that know me are like, "You. should write a memoir." I'm like, Like no way. Like Well, you wouldn't? Well, right now I just found all these. tapes and I was like, maybe I just cut. together like Heidi was calling it. selling Spencer. It was cuz I really. have just been trying to sell myself for. all these years. Not my soul though. That's the one thing I I have stayed. That's why I'm not rich and famous is. because I didn't cross that tier of What. would have crossing that tier looked. like though? Cuz I think to the world it. looks like you sold it. Oh, no, there's. a whole another Satanism level there,

you know, I didn't unlock. Like what. would you do? I mean, I What do they do? Right. The. These people that you just They're not. up front with it, but there's a I'm. We're talking spiritual level, not like, oh, what you say on. a show. Like these people are going. Okay, so it's interesting cuz I feel. like what you were saying about being in. high school, like you were always kind. of this like polarizing figure. There're. going to be people that like me and then. there're going to be people that don't. like me and that's okay. But when you.

were younger, did you ever get in. trouble for your temper? Um. Well, in one soccer game, you know, backstory. So, in high school, you know, we went to GNCs, you get protein. powders, you get energy drinks. So, at. the time, there was this product called. Rip Fuel and I was like, that's every. brand I want to be, ripped and fueled. So, and they had a strawberry flavor. one. So, I was be hitting Rip Fuel. before games. Um you know, you just mix it in your.

water. It's It's legal. It's Buy it's. like Gatorade for me or whatever. You know, I never drink Gatorade though. Um it's not brought to you by Gatorade. I can't be promoting Gatorade. So, yeah, I was all pumped up on Rip Fuel, you. know, and this is very competitive and I. was taking this very serious. And so, this was the semi-finals and. there was like a team little meeting the. night before the game that this coach. who no longer the coach for a reason. Okay. Shout out Fed, the new coach. So,

the seniors didn't go to this team. meeting that was unnecessary the night. before game. So, the next day. biggest game of the senior year, semi-finals, he benches all eight of the. best players, the seniors, hands down. the best players, including myself. We're now losing at half like 2-0. You. know, I'm pacing the side of the thing. I'm like, this is like you we get it. Like and he wanted to make a point like. we don't need you. Like he thought they. were going to do fine with like. whatever. So, finally at halftime we go.

back in. I go in, score two goals, tie. it up, so pumped up. I score a third. goal. Now we're winning. He goes, "Sub.". He tries to pull me out. I'm like, I. don't know if I flicked him off or. whatever. I'm like, you know, I must. have been mean like, "What's up?" Like, you know, I mean, the crowd. This is. back when people cared, you know. You. know, like living, you know, this was. our Friday night lights. Right. It was. probably on Friday, too. And so, you know, I went to the sideline. and you know, maybe got in the coach's.

face. And my mom ran on the field. My. mom, you know, this was crazy what he. did. So, my mom backed me up, but I. didn't hit anybody. I didn't There was. no It was just yelling. He's yelling. back. So, I get called in cuz they're. maybe going to suspend me. And they're. like, "You were acting very pumped up. Like were you on something?" I'm like, "Yeah, Ripped Fuel." And they're like, "What's Ripped Fuel? Can you bring this. in?" Like the principal office, uh Tom Nolan, Bob Riddle just retired. Bye-bye, Bob. So, I bring in the Ripped. Fuel and they read the back of it and it.

had ephedrine in it, which is now. illegal and they decided it was like. speed. So, I was just dosed up on, you. know, Ripped Fuel seeds. So, that got me. not suspended or expelled or whatever. But other than that, like no, I was. teacher I was. tight with all the teachers. So, you got. to blame your behavior on Ripped Fuel. I mean, it was it was a stimulant. Totally. It was anyone else taking it. with you? Uh the whole team. We were all. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I was more. pumped up. So, who was your first famous.

friend? Like, that we kicked it with all the. Like, the first famous person we started. kicking it with. uh was Paris Hilton. Peak the most. famous person on the planet. That was. when I saw like first hand real deal new. modern tabloid fame. Cuz, I mean, I had. grown up with, you know, A-list. celebrity parents and I saw that's more. low-key and it hadn't This was peak. coming in the game tabloid cover energy. paparazzi. And I will always say, you.

know, I'm not close with her. I don't. know her, you know, that, but she was so consistently nice. and like a She didn't even need to like. I'm not like entourage hanger-on or like. rando and still did got treated with, you know, so I'll always say, you know, shut good for you. That Paris Hilton era. was the beginning of it all with. paparazzi. Like, do you think that. sparked something in you of like, "Damn, No, I was I was telling people at age 16.

bringing in Us Weekly covers telling. fools, "Get ready. I'm going to be on. the cover of Us Weekly." And people were. like, "What is this?" My mom always had. tabloids. So, I grew up with tabloids. around the house. And but nobody. appreciated them like I did. So, I was. pre-Paris I was already coming hot. Like, there was no doubt in my mind you. were going to be on the tabloids. Okay, but in your head, Spencer, what were you. thinking you were going to be on the. tabloids for? I had no idea, but I was. like, "I'm going to be famous. He's He's. famous. He'll have it so figured out." I. mean, cuz when you grow up seeing how.

famous people live, like, you know, you. know, as a just eyes on like the the. reservation That's world's over, by the. way. Like, people are like, "Oh, he's. still thirsty. He still wants to be. famous." Like, fame isn't even cool. anymore now. And I would love to have. it, but it's still not, you know, '90s. to early 2000s when these people live I. mean, they were taking helicopters, landing on Just the rules have changed. to game. So, what I grew up thinking. fame was is so different. Like I. wouldn't grow up now be like, all due. respect to Tik Tok, I love being viral.

on Tik Tok, but I don't think I'll be. like, "Oh my god, I want to be a viral. Tik Toker." as like what I was chasing. you had grown up in Ohio, like do you. think because of where you grew up and. what you were around is why you wanted. to be famous cuz you got to see that. life. Oh, 100%. Like I think in Ohio, one of. these other states I would have ended up. in like Delta Force and got in the. military or been a spy or something. Yeah, that was my brand. That's why I. don't have tattoos cuz that was always. like, well, if I am going to be Jason. Bourne, you can't have tattoos. So, you.

know, like I was like deep in but the. problem was I lived in the Palisades. I. was like, get killed or like go to Nobu. I want to go to Nobu not have to go and. like. in a different state, I that's the. energy I have. Okay, I was looking this. up and nowhere is this story. When and how did you meet Brody Jenner? Rewind to eighth grade. um. I won't say her last name. Maybe she's. anonymous. Heather was the it girl on.

the eighth grade soccer team and I was. on the soccer bus cuz they had all the. guys and girls on the same soccer bus. Brody played no sports. So, eighth. grade, Heather was the hot super hot. superstar girl and Brody. was her boyfriend. And so, I was like. this dude and Brody at this time thought. he would you know, it was pre-Eminem, I. think, but Brody was like a a large. Eminem, like no pun intended. Um. you know, he's a bigger guy. He loved.

melt cheese. I later found out he just. melt a cube of cheese and just like eat. it with a spoon. So, he was he then got. ripped and like changed. But this Brody. was like a rapper, melted cheese. And I. was like, how is this happening? So, we. had just. beef in the sense I was like, how is. this your girlfriend? Like we have. soccer practice together. We have way. more in common. So I don't know what I. said, but we got in like the only little. shoving match in middle school. So that. would we had beef, right? But then years.

later this girl that I was seeing. Casey. I won't say her last name cuz I'm. not trying to catch a case. Um she was dating me and I somebody. tells me that's Brody's girlfriend. I'm. like, she's not Brody's girlfriend. Like. so I bring it up to her and I'm like, do. you have a boyfriend? Like and she's. like, well, I didn't think we were like. exclusive. I was like, oh no. I don't care. It's all good. But it's. like I reach out to Brody through mutual. friends. I'm like, yo, you know, I know.

we're not cool whatever, but we should. meet at Don Antonio's and talk, you. know, cuz I guess I had heard you like. love this girl and I was like, and so we. meet up and I'm like, your girlfriend is. not your girlfriend. He's like, and I'm like, I I like I didn't know. Like she didn't. tell me, but I when I found out that's. why I called you. And he's like, I'm. going to come. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You know, this is pre all these T. movies. We should have made a T movie. I. was like, I think we play this out a. little bit. So we started becoming best. friends on like making plans with her.

and then the other person would cancel. like she would cancel and then she. called me and I'd be like, yeah, yeah. And then she make it those plans and. like we did this for a while to the. point where like, you know, maybe we. crossed the line or whatever, you know, but it was like, you know, you want to. play the game. Yeah, let's play it. Um so we became best friends at This is. probably 18. How did you get cast on The. Hills? So now we're going back to. um. I'm now in college. I don't know how I.

see something about the Osbornes making. 25 million dollars for the and I'd seen. the show. I was like, oh, this is. entertaining. They got dogs pooping. Ozzy yells like, no, no, no. Um. and so I'm like, I'm going to make a. reality show. So, I call Brody and I'm. like, we got to meet at P.F. Chang's. When P.F. Chang's had just It's like. P.F. Chang's was Mr. Chow's at this. point. There wasn't Mr. Chow's. Like, this was the hottest Chinese food spot. you could go to. So, we meet at P.F. Chang's. He brings Chucky, his like. consigliere, like advisor, Chucky De.

Coup. And uh so, I'm like, I want to. make a reality show about you. And he's. like, "Uh I don't know about that." And. Chucky's like, "You should do it." To. Brody, he's like, "Dude, this is my advisor." I'm like, and he's. like, "Here's the deal. If you come to. my house tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. with the. camera, start filming, I'll do it." And. he's calling my bluff cuz I'm a sleeper. in at this time. Like, I'm not trying to. be up all the way in Malibu, like at. Cross Creek. So, I had a camera cuz I had just tried. to shoot a documentary in Brazil about.

like the Like, I tried to make my own. Taken, you know, uh like pre-Taken with. like a kidnapping. And I shot this full. film that I was like, Can you please release that? It's pretty. hardcore cuz it was like I used real. people and like Like, people that see it. are like, this is so inappropriate and. intense. But like, at that time. kidnapping was like the big thing. And I. was already in Brazil and I, you know, I. was like, I needed to make a So, it. looks It's too real, you know? Like, it's like Right. So, I'm like, they're. like, "Whoa." Like, it was like, "Oh,

the we're in We're tourists." And then. they're boom. Like, the vans come and duct tape Like, it's crazy. You guys should like But it. like I could have If I had like a good. editor, I would have won a Sundance cuz. it was like no act like Right. I went to. the favelas, gave people cash, all real. guns from like got real cops to like I. mean, it was so crazy. Cuz I want to be. a filmmaker, you know? Like Like, I. didn't Like, that was clout. Was like. Michael Bay, like. Totally.

You know? So, I was like, I'm making. Yeah. So, I edit this. I show Brody. He's like, "Bro.". "Don't you dare show anybody this. Like, you all go to jail. Oh my god. But I mean everyone's in on it, you. know? Like like they I mean nothing bad. is happening. You think it looks a. little Yeah, and Brody's like, people. are going to be a little concerned this. was your girlfriend at the time. Like, it's like she wanted to be an actress. Like, she was actor. There's clearly evidence showing this. was, you know, everyone was fine. And.

like But it was a little too real. It. was as real as it gets. It's like, so. like if I needed to kidnap someone in. Brazil, like I have the full type of. just. Um so, I had the camera. Like good. camera, GL2 Canon. And so, I show up. 8:00 a.m. I have this one tape. Like I. rewatched this the other day. I show up, camera on him, in his nose, just. drilling him, like pushing it in. He's. like, "Uh." So, I tell my parents I'm. withdrawing from USC and I'm taking a.

leave of absence. They're like, "What?". I'm like, "I'm making a reality show.". They're like, "Oh my god." I'm like, "Don't worry, I can go back." I mean, at. this point they're like, "I'm glad he's. back from Brazil.". Um. you know, so. Uh we I started just filming everything. in the house. But his stepdad is a. superstar mega and in real life he is. literally telling me. "Stop [ __ ] filming me. Get the [ __ ]. out of my house." And, you know, at the. time Paris and and. Nicole were on Fox. So, I was saying,

"This is Fox, Dave." You know, I didn't. appreciate who he was. Brody said he. makes elevator music. Like that was my. This is David Foster. Like so, as my. perception I'm like, "Oh.". Like, "You make elevator music? [ __ ]. off.". Yeah, like that was the energy. Like, Brody's like says you make elevator. music. So, I had no like, "Oh, it's Dave. Foster." I'm like, in his face. He's. swearing at us. You know, he's like, "Get the [ __ ] out of my house." And my. head was like, "We have a bigger man. It's a guy here. We have a bigger. mansion. There's more dogs here.

There're like 10 dogs [ __ ]. everywhere. And he was a superstar. And. then we have Brody's mom, Linda. Thompson, who at one time Elvis was. trying to marry, dated Elvis for 5. years. Linda's incredible TV legend. So, she's playing all into it and letting us. like, let the boys do the boys, you. know. So, and I'm living the life, too. I'm never stopping filming cuz of the. guy at the chef. I'm going in the. fridge. I got a plate that says Dave. I'm eating his food all day from the. chef. And we edit right there just like, you know, a few minutes. On Sunday. night, I get a call from this guy.

and he's like, "Spencer." I'm like, "Who's this?" And he's like, "It's. Peter." I'm like, "Peter who?" And he's. like, "Peter Chernin. He's the chairman. of News Corp that owns Fox." And he's. like, "You have a meeting tomorrow at. 9:00 a.m. with Gail Berman." I'm like, "Cool, who's Gail Berman?" He's like, "Spencer, she's the president of Fox. Television. She knows the deal. Just go. to the meeting." I'm like, "Okay." And. he hangs up. I'm like, "Okay." So, I. call David Foster at night talk show. I'm like, "Going to Fox, fuzz man. What's up?".

You know, talking all this smack. This. is where he merked me out cuz he didn't. have like, now he's like, "Oh, this is. real." So, he didn't have faith in me. like, I don't think he knew what level I. had. I'd already got it done. So, he. calls his boy cuz David's Canadian. He. calls his homie from Canada that like. they had tried to do some projects. together in the past. And he's like, "You got to go to this meeting." So, I. pull up like out of a movie and I get to. the Fox lot right there. And every time. I drive by it now, I still I'm like, God, what a memory that you just can't. even make up. And I pull up. I'm like,

"Spencer Pratt for Gail Berman." And. they're like, "Oh, sorry. Somebody. already used your drive on." I'm like, "What does that mean?" They're like, "You're going to have to park on the. street." And like, I'm like, "Wait, what?" So, now I'm like parking down. Pico like running. and I'm in my like dumb purple shirt. that, you know, that I thought was like. a fancy shirt, you know, that I I like I. didn't have like I didn't like have. designer clothes or whatever. So, I had. like this stupid purple shirt on. Somehow later in that day Peter Chernin. sees me. He's there and he's like,

"Don't you ever wear that dumb ass shirt. ever." I'm like, "Uh okay." But so I go into the meeting. and I get in the elevator and this guy. in this full suit is smoking a cigar and. we're going up in the elevator and he's. big old guy and he's like. you know, I'm like, "Who's this guy?". And these other guys in suits. And so I. they're like walking with me and then. we're all walking and I'm like, "Oh, we're all going in the same place as. me." So Gail offers us in that meeting. $3.7 million. I'm like, "Yeah, deal! Deal!

Deal [ __ ] deal!" And they're like, "No, then we're. like we're going to go see some we're. going to ABC.". I'm like, "Who the [ __ ] are you? Like. no, deal." And so they jacked me and. they like if I hadn't called David I. would have so much more creative control. but I was 20. Right. And so. then I find out like I you know I get a. lawyer and they're like, "Yeah, they're. saying you're not the executive. producer." I'm like I'm like, "That. sounds like I sounds like I am that.". And they're like, "Yeah, they're saying. you're not." So I call Peter and I'm. like, "They're saying I'm not." And he's.

like makes a call and then now I'm. executive producer. I was the youngest. executive producer of a a network. television show to this day in history. And uh they try to fight that and so. then they make the show. And at this. point on my first day of filming a Fox. show. keep in mind this is when Fox was peak. Fox. We are getting launched with the. reboot of Family Guy on Sunday nights. before the Simpsons. Our sponsor is. Coca-Cola uh McDonald's that we're like. getting ads and they're like, "I am. going to be a millionaire like in a.

month." I have my walkie-talkie that. says executive producer. Day one I'm. behind camera they're filming and then. everyone's like, "Spencer, you need to. go in and like do what you're doing.". Cuz in it I everyone's always talking. [ __ ] to me like in the sizzle and. everything cuz I'm like the like crutch. the the bad like the guy that lives in. the guest house the energy the Kato. Kaelin vibe, right? So I'm like, No, I. got my walkie-talkie. Like, you'll get. to keep your walkie-talkie. I'm like. Okay. So, I didn't realize I like it was. like the Matrix pill. Like, I That was.

when I sabotaged my entire life of being. taken seriously crossing in front of. that camera. I was like, oh yeah, I get. my walkie-talkie still. I got my title, but I didn't get That was the end of. like anyone ever being like respecting. you in this business. But, which is crazy to hear, too, for. you, Spencer, because by you. they clearly were like, wait, we're. filming this [ __ ] and we're not getting. the same thing that Spencer came with. his DVD because it was you. Brody was so.

comfortable with you being like, Spencer, get the [ __ ] out of my face. And like David Foster's like, Spencer. Like, everyone knew you, so they were. giving you that content. They're not. going to do it as easily in front of. these like random. like guys with cameras. So, they needed. you to get back in there, but that sucks. that then your credit basically got. taken as in terms of a producer. So, I. look still this whole time not getting. that nobody else was going to think this. looked at myself as a on-camera. producer. I was just filming doing the. story bites da da da da da. So, that.

night. Linda has a talk with us our first night. of filming and she's like, I caught. David cheating on me in the studio. And I'm I'm like. Well, so. you know, like What are we doing here? Right. And so, like we pretty much just like. beg her to like I just pause this, you. know, and she's like getting I now. appreciate it more, but at the time I. like I was so deep in like this is our. like Like, who cares? Like, let's roll.

Like, you let's launch. Like, and so, she gangstered up and is like, I will. do. And I didn't really understand what. she meant. Like, I'll do the filming, but I didn't get So, then let's. fast-forward the night the show. premieres. She's like, I informed Fox. that I'm filing for divorce tomorrow. morning. And I'm like, "What are. What do you know?" You know, nowadays. that rating's up, people love that dark. thing. This is a family-friendly Sunday. hour. I get my third call from the. chairman of NewsCorp. He's like, "Spencer, what the F? We bought a.

family-friendly show for Sunday nights. I'm pulling the plug. After next week's. episode is done." So, we get the one, you know, rated well for the summer. We. get one more. And I just lost And I. spent all my money that my first check. on my BMW. Then now I like didn't have. money for gas, you know, figuratively. speaking. Like, cuz I was like, "Game. on, you know, we're going to be so. rich.". Damn, that's wild that like day one of. filming she like Oh, so that just set. the tone. caught him cheating and you're like, "Wait, no, we need one, this house to. film in, and this two, we need the. family together." And then the rest of.

the season they just like you try She. tried to fake it for you. Yeah, she did. She's She's a real good. actor and you know. So, I get that call. I'm like, "Oh my god, I have to go back. to college." You know, like. So, now I'm back in college. Brody Jenner. had step siblings at the time. When do you remember meeting Kim. Kardashian for the first time? And what was she like back then? All right, so I just shout out Esquire.

magazine for profiling me. And the big I. thought this was going to be like. positive, but since I said I should be. Kim Kardashian, people like got all. weirded out about that. But it's I feel. that, you know, so I'm just going to. defend myself. So, now we're at the. first night of The Princes of Malibu, our Fox show. I didn't even know he had. step sisters. I wasn't even aware. Maybe. I met them that night. Like. totally irrelevant. Week later, you.

know, this has been denied, but Brody's. the witness and I don't know if he'll. Maybe he'll say it, but it's true. We. get a call from Kris Jenner, who I don't. know, and he puts her on speaker. And. she's like, "We should do what you're. doing in Malibu with our family in the. valley with your dad, Brody. And and he. hangs up and I'M LIKE, "THE VALLEY?". YOU KNOW, CUZ LIKE WHEN I grew up like. you did not This isn't me saying this. This is what I grew up knowing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. nobody filming anything in the valley. except pornos. You know, like that was.

what the I had you know, that's where. they shot. used to [ __ ] on the valley. It was like. the valley. give me one of those $80 million valley. houses. I guess it's still you need good. AC. I don't you know. But so we laughed, haha. And I've. thought about it a million times. Was that the call that like sabotaged my. whole life that I didn't take? But then. I really thought about it a million. times. They went to then to Ryan. Seacrest who had a first look deal with. E. They had to make a show per his. contract. And they went to him and he.

had the power of not only E! News, Kiss. FM was popping, he just got American. Idol. Like that was a solid I don't. think if Brody and I had gone with. cameras, shot the Kardashians. Yeah. it would have been what the. Kardashians like everything came perfect. for what their magical portal happened. So I've thought about it a trillion. times. But I met her for real for real. in the club. I remember Area. You know, she was wearing like a Hervé Léger.

silver purplish dress, you know, and she. Kim looked like a superstar and was. famous like she deserves day one jump. she was famous at this point. energetically. She knew who she was. going to be. So she had that aura. And. like, you know, I was joking with Kim. and you know, we're all having fun. She. was totally cool. But that I remember. meeting like her at the club and like. you know, then she later filmed on The. Hills and organized Heidi's closet and. they didn't use the footage and I once.

said this in an interview and her. publicist was like, "This is absolute. lie, da da da da." And then MTV pulled. out the clip thank one time they ever. back me with receipts and like showed. unedited Kim like every now and then. somebody tags me in a tweet of her like. tweeting at me like you be Heidi and. Reggie need to go on a double date and. I'm like how was I so popular in my head. that I'm not like following through with. this double date. I did follow through. when Miley Cyrus tweeted us and we went. and double dated with her and that. So I. I wasn't too insane but if I done.

everything different and if I was like. super. like for how thirsty I am like what I. should have done is been friends with. everybody. That's what Kim is was so. good at and I'm not that type of person. Like I don't want to go have fake. lunches and fake drinks and what if I. had played the game like a pro, I would. have gone to drinks all the time with. people that hated me and I hated them. back and we just all be fake but it's. like that's the problem with being a. real person which is good for reality TV.

but like not for networking and building. these cuz people will message me like oh. we should do this and you can reach out. to like your celebrity friend like my. what friends? Like I got my friends from. preschool and they don't even want me to. name drop that I know them, you know. So. No, I I appreciate that cuz I think that. a lot of people don't know about The. Princes of Malibu. Like if you're on. TikTok. sorry but people may not know about it. and I think that it was interesting when. you look back at your history that you. started this like basically little.

reality show following Brody around and. Kim is just like there in a scene and. you're like whoa like this was the. beginning and then I I believe you that. Chris called because it's like you guys. were doing it before the Kardashians. started it. No and. at the time Bruce not wasn't Caitlyn. So. at the time Bruce was filming for. Princes. So Chris is they didn't use any. of the footage but like he would come. film and he'd be on it. So he's going. back home and tell like this is a crazy.

da da da da da. Right. And you know, at the same time The. Simple Life is popping, so Kim's knowing. about reality TV through. uh through Paris. Yeah, that's when. reality TV really started to pop off. Was like slowly like The Simple Life, and then obviously though the biggest I. think was when The Hills popped off. And. that was when it was like holy [ __ ]. this is reality TV. And cuz you know that's how I got to The. Hills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh it's going to be a. it's going to be two-part Call Her Daddy.

podcast. Uh so They're trying to milk. this [ __ ]. Come on, Spencer. Come on. We're going. to merch, get your merch, callherdaddy.com. So um so wait. Okay, so you go back to. college. So go back to college, and then one day. I'm back from class, whatever, and my. mom's best friend Lucy, they're in there. watching this show. And my mom's friend. Lucy is like, you should date this girl, she's so cute. I'm like, what is this? And they're they're watching and she's. like, date this girl, she's so cute. And. it's Heidi. And I'm like, what is this. show? Like, how is this even a show? It's the season one. I'm like, this is. the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my.

life. Right. And I'm like, this is on TV? Like, yeah, it's so cute, they're da da. da da da. And I see one of the names of. the executive producers was a guy that. Brody and I literally hired. Like, we. had a meeting, we hired. So I have his. cell phone number. I call him, I'm like, "Mother monger, you have a new show and. you didn't put Brody and I on?" And he's. like, "Spencer, no. It's a set cast of. this girl from Laguna Beach. You like, it's not like that." I'm like, "Oh no, it's like that. We'll see you in the. club. Like, I don't think so. That's our. show, you got like Hollywood? Like, this.

is when Brody was like running the clubs. and like so all due respect, no girl. from Laguna Beach is doing a Hollywood. show. I'm like, they have a Hollywood. show and you're And not including us, like, yeah. So we're out. It's this club was called. Privilege. Justin Timberlake was just. popping with Sexy Can I, I think. I. remember it just like hitting so hard in. the in the freaking club. And so this is. when I was very into dancing, you know, this was people dance back then. You.

people weren't too cool to dance. People. wanted to stand around like it was like. Yeah. dancing time. So, I was dancing. and then Kristin was at the bar with. Heidi and Heidi just done season 1. I. didn't know what even that meant. Nobody. Hills was not popping. So, Heidi and I. cleared the dance floor. We're having a. great time dancing, hit it off. We all. drive back to Brody's house in Malibu. So, she ends up spending the night. We, you know, she says it's love at first. sight. I guess now in retrospect it was. But, you know, I had, you know, player.

ego, clout, fame vibes. So, I was like. And then she tell you know, we're seeing. each other, but she is seeing, you know, she is not exclusive either to me. When I met Heidi, she was writing a. book, had chapters how to outplay the. player. She had game galore. She was not. this like innocent victim like, "Oh my. god, Spencer's talking to those. playmates." Like she was talking to old. dude over here and old dude here. Like. she had She had two Like she had a.

A-list athlete and a A-list actor she. was dating when I was supposedly looking. like the bad guy. So, if they'd showed. real Heidi and not this like bootleg, you know, just making girls look like. this like Like that was where you got to. see like like a awesome girl that I. would fall in love with who like Show a. girl with game that. Totally. Like you were attracted to her. because she was. is why I liked her. She like she was no. victim. I wasn't playing her. It was. like battle. We were at like a master.

chess dating. And so, that's. us who she was dating? Uh yeah, she was dating Chase Crawford. who was like the it like hot guy, you. know, peak, you know Uh Gossip Girl. Yeah, like couldn't be cooler. So, she. wasn't like, "Oh, poor Spencer." Like it. was not that energy. hearing you say that though because I. always felt that vibe from Heidi, but. they always cast her as this like damsel. in distress, like Jordan's being mad. mean to me, and then you she meets you,

and it's like Spencer's being mean to. me. I'm like, "That's not the vibe I get. from Heidi.". So, the problem with Heidi and I, we. love making TV shows and doing what. producers say. Here's the problem with. The Hills. All male producers, East. Coast Waspy freaking dudes that they're. now in charge of representing young. women in Hollywood, and they're putting. their toxic male weird narrative spins. that they. uh that's not facts and it's not real.

life cuz I don't even think any of these. guys date, you know, like they don't. know maybe they saw it in a movie or. something. fathom a woman like spitting game on a. guy and like change your number like, "Fuck you.". better show, too. It's like real Heidi. was I always say this, people to this. day look like "Oh, how are you still. together?" It's like, "Cuz you don't. know real Heidi." Like you guys are all. Yeah. Like it's like it's. Yeah, like I'm they're not showing me. begging her to be boyfriend and. girlfriend, you know, like she's like, "I don't want that title." Like. She was more yeah. Yeah, she had game.

was a gangster, like, you know, so. So, now knowing that's actually a really. great story that it goes all the way. back to your mom looking at the TV and. being like, "Oh, you should date this. girl." And then you guys actually meet, and you immediately have a vibe. What. was your first impression of Lauren. Conrad when you met her? Daddy gang, let's talk about dating. Okay, I know I. am married, but don't get it twisted, so. many of my friends are still single, and. they come to me and they're like, "Alex,

what should I be doing?" And I'm like, "Get on Tinder." I know that you guys. can vet people before you go on dates. with them. Then all of a sudden you're. not wasting a Friday night, you're. having the best time on a Friday night. with this date. Tinder cares about every. step of of dating journey, and it has. plenty of unique safety features like. are you sure, which vibe checks any. messages that seem a bit risky and helps. keep message threads a safer place to. start a conversation. Share my date lets. your friends know about your plans, and.

noonlight discreetly connects you with. help if you need it. I want all of you. going on dates, daddy gang, and having. so much fun, and Tinder has your back. You are actually going to be able to be. present and focus on your date because. of all these features put in place. So, explore all the possibilities for. yourself. It starts with a swipe. Download Tinder today. What was your. first impression of Lauren Conrad when. you met her? All right, so let's do a. disclaimer here for, you know, LC stands.

because they're always like, "Oh my god, he still has to talk about LC." It's. like, "No, no." I didn't. I was connected to a a television. franchise, and this is a co-star that is. part of my fame, people. I would love to. have never talked to her for about the. rest of my life, but I am a great guest, and I am honest and truthful, so there. you go. Uh so, that's for the comment. section. So, I I mean, nice nice girl. Like I. we it was all good to the point where I.

talked Brody in to breaking up with. Nicole Richie to fake double date with. LC. So, like that's the level of how I. felt about her. Like, let me help make. your life better by bringing the. best-looking guy in Hollywood right now. who all the girls want to date. I'll get. him to break up with his celebrity, you. know, superstar girlfriend. I will get. him to come on your show, pretend to be. your, you know, interest to just. everyone wins, you know, so like I was a. I'm a teammate. I come from being on a.

team sport. I didn't play tennis. I. didn't play golf. Like the team wins. That's how I've always thought. So, I. was like, let's all win. We'll double. date. And I I already in the, you know, game from like working with the. paparazzi for Princess of Malibu and. setting up our shoots. And so like I was. like, you know, our first double date. I had us coming out of The Grove, you. know, all due respect to LC, she'd never. been in a tabloid until I unlocked that. for her and gave her the, you know, as a. teammate, not, you know, I'm not on what. credit. I I wanted us all to win. So I.

had our paparazzi, this is pre the. entire world now does this. This is was. this was vintage genius. uh where you work with them instead of. like hiding from them cuz this when. tabloids sold like albums. Like you. could Drake, you know, one week 3. million sales on a Us Weekly. Like this. was Right. superpowers that I knew and. understood. And I just watched the. season 2 episode. LC knew because if you. look at her on the couch, she has every. tabloid in her lap. That's what she's.

reading. So don't be mad at me, girl. So. we come out of our double date and I'm. like, "Make sure you guys look to the. left." You know, this is off camera. Just I'm really trying to like get us. all to hang out and friends cuz now. Heidi and I are seeing each other, not. boyfriend girlfriend. And she's like, "What is it?" And I'm like, "It's the. It's our camera." She's like, "You. called the paparazzi?" I'm like, "Yeah, to get you in a mag." So that was I was. like, "Oh, you're not all there, you. know, like don't have a full deck. running here as you're trying to be on. your second television show." Like it's. not like I'm all for people who don't.

want to be famous, but like you're on a. second show. Like you spun off. Like I. get like it fell into your lap in high. school and it came to you and you. auditioned, but now you spun off. You. You are choosing the path of fame. So. now I'm like, so she from the jump kind. of was weirded out like, "Oh, Spencer's". Like that's why she'll say things like, "I don't trust him." It's like, "You. didn't understand like I was ahead of. this game." Like I already saw how this. worked on a way bigger scale cuz I'm not. from Laguna Beach, you know, like I'm.

from here. And watching Paris, watching. now Nicole. Like Nicole is an actual, you know, we ended up having a falling. out or whatever. Miss I was mis- quoted, I think. Holy can uh but she's a genius. So, like uh she's a fame genius. So, I. studied under, you know, I'll call her a mentor in the in the. fame game. So, I had. She just Oh, she's as she been She She. knows the game. That's why Paris called. her smartest friend to be her teammate. She didn't call Kim. You know, like,

"Hey, you want to you know." But so, uh. back to like. you know, everything we were best. friends. She's like, "You want to meet. my dad?" Da da da. But eventually, the. Brody couldn't play pretend anymore. I. wasn't saying fake date LC. That wasn't. the initiative. Like I was like, "This. would be great." Like Heidi's cool. They're roommates. Like I was hoping it. worked out. It didn't work out from. night one. You know, like So, once she. was onto that, she wanted her amazing. wingman, which I under wingwoman, totally get, Heidi to not be with me. So, her selfish motivations, she can put.

it on all these reasons of like, "Oh, I. don't trust him." Or look at She knew. Heidi. Like she knew Heidi's game. Like. she knew about this and we know her. These girls were not victims, okay? They had their own television show. They. were in the right in the heart of. Hollywood. They're going out every night. getting tables. These aren't these like. pilgrims that like were like, "Oh, these. poor little innocent, you know." Yeah, these girls are savvy. And I didn't get.

raised on being on television when I was. 16, 17. Like you're a veteran at this. point. Like yeah, I understood the. backside of like tabloids and media, but. when it came to making a TV show and. like merking out people and like, you. know, what comments say this like this. is a is a black belt level. Yeah. With regard to your relationship. with Heidi, how did you guys separate. reality from reality TV to keep your. relationship healthy? Thank god the show.

was so fake that it was you know, every. time and now and then. Heidi would get a little too drunk like. one time in area like she knew I told. her like we're going to call these. playmates. I'm going to bring these. girls and she knew and she's like I'll. meet you there and then drunk Heidi's. like [ __ ] and like you know, like and. she really got all up in her feelings, you know, I was you know, cuz she was. like I don't even want to you know, but. that's the problem when you even play. reality like there's times where. you know, it affects you in real life. So well thankfully it was so fake that.

all the fighting and everything was so. like planned and rehearsed and scripted. that it didn't. And then the other thing is we lived in. my parents house in the Palisades like. in my high school room like so we leave. Hollywood and just go have our simple. you know, life in the you know, we. weren't up in the scene like it looks. So like we never lived in that apartment. that we filmed in or that house we. filmed in. So I imagine it would have. been harder if we were immersed in that.

world and these were our real friends. and our real relationship but. You guys really took a turn to be like. the most hated couple in the world and. Heidi got all the surgery. Did you ever try to convince Heidi not. to get surgery? No. One thing I never try to do with. ever with Heidi and what people don't. understand is like Heidi's the boss. Like I work for Heidi to this day. Like. that's this whole like I. you know, like that's people who really. know the inner workings of our.

relationship like like excuse my French. like I'm the [ __ ] whip like you know, like it's not like oh Heidi, I think you. should do this like Heidi came from a. little town in Crested Butte with dreams. of being a star like she like so no, I. never told Heidi what to do cuz I just. I'm I was I was filming her. She's like. put the camera on me cameraman like you. know, if you watch the footage like I'm. just her cameraman. I said to her. yesterday, I make I'm literally your. cameraman. So, Yeah. also, let's rewind.

to surgery cuz it's in tears. First time she even got the idea of. getting surgery was Us Weekly approached. her and was like, "Hey, we have this top. plastic surgeon." Wasn't even in her. head, you know, that wants to do, you. know, we'll give you a nose job and. implants. And Heidi's like, and then. they're like, "This would cost 50,000.". Whatever. And Heidi's a hustler and. she's like, "50,000 for free?" And this. Us Weekly is coming to me. Right. I'm. not going to say his name. Ken came to. her. Um and so, you know,

you know, and she'd grown up getting. made fun of about her nose her whole. life. You look This was early day. comment section. Every single comment. I'm always like, "Don't read that." It's. just saying she has a Jay Leno chin. And. so, she's now in her head of all these. things that's early, you know, comment. section. So, then she has this meeting. with this top, you know, rest in peace, Dr. Frank Ryan. He's dead. But she has. meeting with him and he she's showing. He's showing her all the A-list. superstars, all the things he's done. But, you know, sign top secret. They're.

not telling anyone. It's just She's. realizing this is the game. So, she does the nose job, boobs. It's. not the end of the world. People don't, you know, people She didn't have to tell. the truth, also. Like, this time I'm not. going to say other big pop people were. literally without a doubt got nose jobs. Got it. Like, that was standard. operating procedure. But Heidi was just. honest like, "I'm going to tell people. this is what I did." Which, you know, I'm like, "I don't care. Whatever.". Like, keep in mind, I've already dated. Heidi for so long, in love, already felt.

like this isn't like, "Oh, this is what. you need to do now for us to be like. we're already battling the world. Like, this isn't going to change our. relationship." So, I'm like, "I don't. win-win. Like, I don't care either way. Whatever. Do what you want to do to your. body. I'm scared of I couldn't even I. can't even get shot. So, I so it's way. past my world of like knives and you. know. So, all good. The follow-up, the. one that people all freaked out on, I'll. never forget, I even have it on video.

As she's going in, cuz she when she was. doing her Miss Universe, she got elbowed. by one of the backup dancers and they. hit her nose and so she ate like like. it's like dented and they're going to. like pop it out, whatever. So, she goes. to have like that done. That morning, he's like, "Hmm, while you're under. we you know, we could just little And I. hear the word minor so many times it's. like it's so early in the morning when. you drop these people off for surgery. It's like I'm not even thinking I hear. minor so I just like I don't I hear So, I already got lip injections. That.

seemed minor like, oh, minor and you. hear the word injectable and this and. everything's minor and he just had this. blue pen and he's just like I'm like. this is a lot of blue. Neither of us are. thinking like, "Oh my god." He's like, "This is minor." is the word we heard a. million times. Cut to like the most. traumatic. So, no, it was not like a a. positive time. That's also just so crazy to hear. you talk about it too because of like. how manipulative. and. really scary like when you're young, you.

don't understand and these doctors. should do a better job of explaining. like the fact that they said minor to. you and you're like it was in the. morning. Also, the fact that you're like. it was the day of and they're like we. can just do this like we'll scoop out. your back, we'll pin back your ears, we'll And he said the price of each. thing and then back to Heidi who's like. a banker, he's like this is 25,000 I. mean, it was like a quarter million. dollars when he like he's like and I'll. cross all this. It was like out of like. a movie where you like you're like. shopping for clothes and they added it. all up and he's like void, $0. So, it's.

like in her head Miss Business. It's like a business deal. She's like, "Oh my god, he's giving me he's giving. me a quarter million to like make and. this is what all I'm not going to name. stars, but this is what all they do, but. they spread it out." Like everything she. did is like standard A-list. Totally. I'm not naming the women, but. But it's obvious. Yeah. This is standard A-list women, but once. a year, you know, you don't knock it all. out at You don't drop it off at the body. shop. What do you miss about being one.

of the most famous couples in the world. at the time? Oh, just the money. Like Yeah, like I would If you asked me. to never be famous or just be rich, I. would have I thought being famous was. the easy way to get rich. Like if I put. the amount of energy as I put into being. famous as just like doing like a normal. rich person job, like a banker, like I. would be rich. So, uh yeah, like how the e- like getting. this paid by Coca-Cola to hold a Coke. can. Like, here's $10,000. Like, like. What? Yeah.

so like that level of like And then. people are like, "Why do you want to be. famous?" Like, cuz that it's so hard, but it's so easy when you're like in the. when you're getting the checks. Like, at. one time we were making a million. dollars a year selling our paparazzi. photos. Like, going and looking cheesy, you you know, like dressing up in dumb. little like Easter bunny. Like It So, that part is Yeah, money. the you know That makes sense. So. People hated you more than people. who murdered people. You were more hated.

than O.J. Simpson at one point. And Casey Anthony. Yep. How did that. make you feel at the time? Well, at the time it was a victory. because David Foster had put me into the. game by he knew Simon Cowell. I didn't. watch American Idol and he was like, "Spencer, once the Fox start going, he's. like, you need to be the young Simon. Cowell." I was like, "Who?" Like And. he's like, "The Like the hated guy, the. villain, the like, you know." I was. like, "Got you." Like. It sounds sounds easy, coach. Put me in.

So, I. There was no social media. I was so. naive to think and I thought everybody. knew Hollywood was just lights, camera, action, fake as could be. I didn't. understand middle America. This was. Bible, you know, like this was, you. know, the Holy Spirit over here and I'm. over here just trying to get ratings. bonuses. Like if we ever got to 5. million, I got a million-dollar check. just that day. So, no matter what I'm. reading, I'm over here like chasing a. million-dollar one. Like and we're like.

at 4.2, 4.3. I'm like, "Oh, what can I. do to get to that million dollars to do. what I'm already doing that night?" So, my mindset at that point. At one time I. had like hatespencerpratt.com. where like you could go and like comment. like I hate like I thought it was so fun. and like ridiculous. Until, you know, I. started driving around and like everyone. was just flicking me off out windows. I. was like, "Oh my god. Like, who's. watching this show? Like, chill. Like, I. thought this was like a fun like party.

show. Like, why you guys isn't the news. on? Like, aren't we in Iraq? Like, isn't. there a war? Like, I just never. understood cuz I came from my play. pretend with the princes and everything. and I just thought, you know. So, no. understood what you were doing and then. when people did it and they thought it. was real, you were like, "Wait, guys. Yeah, and I. I'm in hell.". And I know no and like Brody will say to. anybody that's like, "Spencer planned. every single like he's a witness to like.

the pre like the the blueprint." Like, I. executed it too well, you know. And. here's how they got me and this is how. the predatory producer, you know, and me. being naive and Heidi just hit me with. this and I was like, "Oh my god, I'm so. triggered by that quote." They were. always saying, um. "We're going to. this is your redemption arc. We're going. to redeem." So, I'm always chasing like. you do this and then we're going to So, I'm like, "I like this." But it's like I. should have been like watch Batman. I'm.

like, "There's no way the Joker is. getting redeemed like part three." You. know, like like I just I just like, oh. yeah, that sounds great. You know, redeem me. Yeah, what season 4? Like, woo, so like I I fell for that just con, which you know, that's the problem when. you're 23 and you do think you're. smarter than everybody, which I. obviously was not, that I just got, you. know, I thought I was in with everybody. and I'm working with this producer that. I already made this show with, but it. was like, oh no, they were sailing me.

off the waterfall like Niagara. And you. know, I didn't care because they're also. blood money paying, you know, we're the. highest paid people on television at. this time. So, I'm I'm going I had a. million dollar suit collection. I didn't. even wear suits. And then I gave them. all to my friend who was a real estate. agent. Shout out Mikey P. And you know, so like like cuz I was like, what do you. do with all this money? You buy suits. I. was like, that's a rich people thing. No, oh no. No, buy gold. That's what I would say. That's the one thing I did was smart at.

one time. I bought like all this gold. So, I carried a backpack around with. like half a million gold coins. Just. like cuz you can't spend gold. You know, like it takes. keep you in line? What about a business. manager? We had them. Problem with. business managers, let me tell you. They take your money? Not only do they. take they take 5% of all the money you. spend cuz they have to like do the math. for it. Oh, so be careful with a. business manager cuz they love you. spending money. That's their favorite. your friend. You're like, I can't spend. this. yeah, I should have bought more of it.

Right, right, right. Okay, Spencer, you. created the concept. I'm now convinced. I look back and I'm like, there was. Simple Life, um there was like uh. Newlyweds Jessica Simpson and Nick. Lachey, like early early days, but you. created the reality show villain. Oh, I'll take that 1,000%. Right. The villain, yes. give me my one credit. Yeah. Yes. I'm going to add that to my. Wikipedia. The originator of the reality star. villain. it was fun until you realize like.

there's no getting out. So, as I look. back, they were frankenbighting is what. I learned later is where they're just. taking audio and putting it there and. putting you at an event you're not at, saying you did this. Like, I was just. watching this episode where Lauren comes. in like that Heidi stood her up and. there's a note from Heidi. Anyone that. knows Heidi, her handwriting looks like. Egyptian hieroglyphs. Like, she doesn't. know what she's writing. I don't know if. she can even write. Like, and so this. cute little note like, "Sorry, Lauren. LC E like, I can't hang out. Like, went.

to the movies with Spencer. Love you.". Like, perfect calligraphy. Like, Heidi. never wrote that note. They never told. her she was standing up LC. It's like. these simple things that like murk you. out. And Lauren's playing her long. She. knows Heidi didn't write that note. And. coming in like, "Heidi? Heidi?" Knowing. like, you were just in your apartment. They just miked you up. Like, do like. good for you. Like, like freaking Blake Lively over there. So, let me explain to you what I'm thinking.

I've sat down with reality people now. and sitting down with you who was like. the originator of the villain, I want to. expose. how easily the edit process is that. reality TV uses to make something look. like a conversation happened and it. really was a complete different. conversation that happened. Do you know. what I mean? So, who is someone that you really dislike? Like, someone that pisses you off and. can get you like riled up? You can be.

Adam DeVillo. Okay. I'm Adam DeVillo. Okay? And I'm going to We're about We're in a. fight. We are in a fight right now. I'm. Adam, you're Spencer. And I'm talking so. much [ __ ] to you. This is what's going. to happen is the point is is I'm going. to be It's like I'm a producer being. like, "You're pissed at Adam. What would. you say to Adam?" And it's like, "Fuck. you." And then you walk out of the. interview. What I'm going to do is at. the beginning of this episode, it's. going to be a cold open and I'm going to. dub in a different question of me being.

like, "Spencer, you're irrelevant. How. do you feel?" And you're going to be. looking at me when really everyone right. now will see what that original thing. was. I'm talking about Adam DeVillo, but. we're going to cut it and make it look. like you were [ __ ] on me and you. walk out of the Call Her Daddy. interview. Oh my gosh. It's so scary. Well, give me a few minutes. I have. Okay, so this is what. it's to tell you how I'm envisioning it. I'm going to. No, I see the vision, but I'm just like. trying to think about what I would. actually say that could come off. believable. Like [ __ ] you. You're [ __ ] predatory person.

Ooh, that's pretty good. Oh my god. That's better than anything. we had. That's way stronger than a [ __ ]. you. Do you have a notes app of what you want. to say to. Adam DeVillo? Uh yeah, I do. You need to drink some of your your flat. champagne. going to need to get We can do it twice. Like we just want to get the best And. again, what is happening right here is. going to go in the episode, just so you. know. You're not getting [ __ ] over. Like we're going to show this process.

as long as this goes on Spotify. Yeah. I don't care what you show. Power of edit, baby. Uh-huh. I liked that first line you said. Yes, but it would it would is not dramatic. enough. Right. Cuz I mean, you are a predatory person. I can't even take it seriously. Okay. Here we go. I think it would be dramatic if you get. up and walk out.

I'm going to definitely. I'm just. Okay. Okay. You're practicing. You're. practicing. Oh, yeah. [ __ ] you. [ __ ] this interview. This. stupid podcast. [ __ ] this shit's over in. here. What the [ __ ]. That was good. LOW-KEY. SPENCER! LOW-KEY. SPENCER! DUDE, THAT WAS GOOD. THAT WAS GOOD. IT.

HAS to be more low-key, otherwise it's I. agree. I agree. No, I think that was. pretty good cuz you said [ __ ] you, [ __ ]. this. I'm going to do one more and I'm. going to keep all this in of like, guys, this is the this is I'm like poking him. I'm Adam DeVine. I'm like, you are. So, that's the thing you wouldn't even. That's what's so crazy about reality TV. Adam DeVine wouldn't be here. They send. these [ __ ] They call the for the Hills. it was called the She was called the. collector. That's how shady this [ __ ] is to collect. the [ __ ]. And And she would just get [ __ ] out of. you. No, she would come and like she fake.

jerked off and busted a nut on my face. to pump like to like and it worked and. what I like went nuts. Okay, so let's like channel that. annoyance. Who Let me call Heidi. Who do. I dislike? Hey. Hi, honey. Who do I Who do I really. dislike that I could channel just like. lots of anger for a fake scene here? Feel like I don't talk to enough people. to hate anybody anymore. I saw who.

ate your car. Oh, I don't know. Thank you, honey. I knew you would know. Love you, honey. Bye. Love you. Love Love you. You're welcome. Here, I'll put you on. the mic. There you go. You're good. You're good. Love you. I'll get shout out. Shout out. pradaddy.com pradaddy.com Love you. Stream Superficial. Um Okay, who stole your car? Oh, lots of. people did but one One I have to see. Pretend I'm him. Oh, I am. You're a. [ __ ] loser. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

This is the biggest [ __ ] waste of. time. I can't even believe Spotify gave. you a [ __ ] show. I bet this doesn't even last another. [ __ ] year. Why don't you just delete. this whole [ __ ] episode? Good luck. with your little imaginary boyfriend you. never show on [ __ ] IG straight. [ __ ]. you. Alex [ __ ] confirm [ __ ] [ __ ].

Great. Spencer. Spencer. Meryl Streep. Dude, that was good. What I've learned is like. the more exaggerated the faker looks now. because now everyone is so exaggerated. on all these shows. So, you got to like. in post edit and that's the beauty again. I'll share with everyone watching is. like we'll look back and see which one. looks more real. Maybe the first one. looks more real cuz it was less try. hard. even, you know, the Holy Spirit, I may. give you a third just out of nowhere. So, you know, third You know, you have. to do these 12 times. That's like that. video I sent you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I rewatched it like this is. supposedly where I'm bullying Heidi into. like moving in with me to like I would. never move into Carson Avenue. Like I'm. not bullying anyone to like live across. from [ __ ] Boa or Boca What is it? I. don't even Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a liquor store. Like So, no, I was. not But this big scene, this was when it. was a wrap for me was when I She was. like, "I don't think I want to move in. with you." Like doing her Meryl Streep. level. And I'm like, then get out My. answer is, "Get out of my car." We did.

that at least 12 times. They're like, "Floor the car more." And we're they're. shooting the exhaust pipes. She gets in. the car right after. We go to Don. Antonio's. Like that's just a night. But. like boom and here's how I'm even. crazier. The song that they like put to. it, like Apologize, I gave them the One. Republic song. I was like, "This will be. so good." Cuz Heidi was like in talks to. do a song with Ryan Tedder and he like. played me that. I'm like, "I'll get this. on the hill." So, then I even gave them. the murder song. As we're kind of We're.

not wrapping up. Oh my god. no. We're not. You're like, "I'm not. leaving." Thank you for playing along. That was a great promo. Is there a. specific manufactured storyline you. regret saying yes to? Yeah, the sex. tape. I didn't think people like big. deal I thought it was like clout too. Like Kim just made so much off of hers. It wasn't a negative there were not no. tape even ended up coming out. So like I. thought that that's why I played along. called a fake producer. That wasn't on. the phone with LC. That was me. pretending to apologize something I.

didn't do to a producer. Like yeah, I'll. To your knowledge, did Adam DiVello ever. abuse his power when producing the show. and in what ways? You know, here's the so funny like I was. ready to go all in on Adam DiVello, but. I'm a mercenary. If they call me right. now to be on Selling Sunset and I hate. him more than anyone on earth I'd be. like, what's my fee? You know, like so. you can't even ask somebody who's like a. mercenary about people because like I.

should have known his last name is devil. with an O. Like that's not a. coincidence. And think here's the other. thing that I now have the benefit of. perspective with. Yeah. Like we've now. been on two seasons of Celebrity Big. Brother. We are locked up, you know, 50. plus days of producer. We did I'm a. Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, Marriage. Boot Camp, Wife Swap, Famous Food. Like. the list of shows of dealing with. producers, not to mention all these. pilots I shoot and like there's nobody. like that guy. So here's the problem.

with people like Adam and how they'll. always win. Mhm. They're male and he brings in his. enablers and they're all like guarded. You know, I'm not saying this is like. they will always win because there's. that me the mercenary cuz I know how. this is a demonic demon and I'm like put. me on Netflix. So all these people. around Christine, they're not going to. back her because they don't want to rock. the ship. They don't want to you know, they don't want Selling Sunset to end. So that's how me too and this these.

people are enabled because the people. around them. are like ain't happening to me like you. cuz I'm one of his like I'm sure the way. he treated Whitney and LC and I'm sure. God knows how they probably love him. because when things did come out in. Heidi's story or whatever, guess who's. the first one to be like, "He's the best. guy ever." Maybe to you, but that's not. the truth. Like that's your Like you. can't defend, you know, so. Totally. And I think it's [ __ ] up.

because like you're saying, these men in. these position of power insulate. themselves with all these other men that. are going to make him like almost. impenetrable to any type of. any type of getting in trouble. And. however, what you're saying also is. because you're the mercenary, it's. [ __ ] up like we saw Christine Quinn. was one of the first people which she's. fortunate. She's got a lot of [ __ ]. money. She's got her own money and she's. got her husband that has a [ __ ] ton of. money. And so when you're in a position. where you need this person that's in a.

position of power and [ __ ] up, but you. need to make a living, you need money, you're kind of at the hands of their. power. And so I hear what you're saying. You're like, "I would take the Netflix. show cuz that's what your career is, but. you're not saying he's a good guy." I. want to cuz I I've never talked about. this to my listeners. So when Heidi was. on Call Her Daddy last year, she brought up an incident where the. producer from The Hills was physical. with her. After filming that episode, the MTV rep.

that reps Heidi called my team and said, "You need to take that out of the. episode or you can't air it." I don't. even know if Heidi knows this. doesn't know it. Okay. Shout out Joya and Jay and. uh who else is I love you guys. even know. So we get this call. shady because it's like they protect the. net Like I love MTV, but it's like. that's Adam. She didn't say MTV. You. can't Like that's the. So my team gets this call and Daddy Gang. listening like you can go back and that.

interview I they said you have to take. that part out or you can't air the. episode. I thought it was coming from. Heidi and I'm like, who am I to put. someone's like abuse story out there if. they don't want it out. So, I took it. out of the episode. Fast forward, few weeks ago, Kristin Cavallari sits. down with me and she talks about how. Adam Divello is the new producer who is. the original producer of The Hills and. she mentions Heidi's name in the. interview saying we both had really bad. experiences with these producers. Immediately, I message Heidi. I go right.

to Heidi cuz I'm like, I don't want to. put your name in the episode if you're. not comfortable with it. I know Kristin. doesn't want to speak for you. I don't. want to make sure you're good with it. And Heidi was like, "Absolutely put it. in there. It's the truth." To which I. then realized, "Oh my god. Last year, I fully got. played." I was like, "Last year, that. was not Heidi not wanting to put that. in. But, now that you're done with The. Hills, can you explain what the [ __ ]. happened with that whole situation?".

Again, I wasn't there. I was never. allowed to be That's why That's why. these predator type people like that. People that want the smoke, they won't. have you like you I never interacted. with Adam ever. Once he knew my level, you know, like you don't play like I. don't play. So, I never got to interact. with Adam cuz it would've been on. So, I. was banned from the shoot the photo. shoot that this happened. So, what I did. was send Shout out Kevin Carlson, her. bodyguard, uh to go in my place cuz I.

you know, I'm like I'm not I'm not. allowed to go to her photo shoot. So, Yeah, that's weird. again, you'd need. Heidi here, but from my. what I recall is she had one of those. loose-fitting, you know, I guess it was also a comment. about her new boobs, you know, like you. know, cuz she just had Nobody had seen. it whatever. And. she had one of those backs that like her. open back where it's like pretty much. like in the right angles like butt. cheek, you know, like of a dress. And I.

guess he like put his hand like ass. cheek grab and the security to point. where he like chopped her his hand off. and was like checked him, you know, shout out Kevin. Um gangster. But he was there this. happened so we had a witness. We like he. was you know. It makes me really sad for Heidi that it. took years like everyone is believing. Christine Quinn right now. Oh. literally when this came out I all again. I didn't watch Selling Sunset because I. hate this person so much. I don't care.

how good the show is. Adam, right? But. when I saw this I was like this is an. angel from heaven just came out and then. she's in this outfit and I'm like she is. out of the this is the matrix this is. literally Trinity coming to like. and it took what 12 years? Like you can. go back on Google and she was like this. is not appropriate like you can't like. she felt to point where she called me. and I was like what did I so I called. and I left some psycho message, you. know, like I'm sure I hope he still has. it. You know, but here's how weird life. is. And so when I went back to college.

to finally graduate in 2013. I'm in a Staples on Olympic and I go cuz. I drink lots of water and fluids I go to. go pee in the Staples and you know, I'm. not a like a I like to go in the stalls. pee I feel more protected, you know. So. I open the stall door. guess whose face I look at. Adam. Adam DeVillo. I haven't seen this. person since 2000.

maybe the first night of Hills filming. I've never even seen him since then. Open and and he looks like I'm there to. murder him, you know, cuz this is like. some random Staples in the men's room in. the stall he's coming out and he's like. and it took me I didn't like process. like who is like why is this fool. freaking out? context. what is it like what's happening? I just. want to pee like you're blocking in. urinal here like toilet get out of the. way. And he's like, "Spencer, what are. you doing here?" I'm like, "Adam? Like, what are you doing?" He's like, "I'm. going to the bathroom." I'm like, I'm. like, "I'm going to like, why are you in. Staples?" I'm like, "Buying books for.

college. Why are you here?" And he's. like, "Cuz I work down the street and. this is the better bathroom." I'm like, "Huh?". Like, so, you know, to this day I think. he doesn't believe I was buying Staples. and it was like, "I can touch you if I. want. I can get you anywhere" type I. like like, just know anytime you're. going to the bathroom, I could open the. stall door and be there. Like, that's. how I think God wanted me to have that. last like. Right. Don't ever feel too cozy on that. toilet cuz that door could open and it.

could be me. That surprise. like, it was a weird moment. But it's. like I didn't have. It'd been 3 years. I was back in. college. I didn't. I hadn't been I'm now back in the game. trying to be famous again. So, like, I'm. mad again. But then I didn't like really. care. But he couldn't accept that like. and I was so chill and I was like, "Oh, what are you up to?" Like, and he was. like, "What are you?" And then Heidi. comes like, "Why are you here?" And. she's like, "I'm like It was just such a. good. He couldn't He did not believe it could. have been a coincidence. He's like, "You. are here to kill me.".

stalking me. trillion percent. Here's. the weirdest part. So, years before. this, just to show you how demonic this. project with The Hills was. Yeah. We go out for a pitch with one of. these evil producers cuz again, we're. mercenaries and he's like, "Hey, I want. to pitch you to Lifetime." We're like, "Okay." Like, his right hand guy. So, we. go to this pitch and we're sitting there. and he's like, "It's amazing. We can all. tell in this Lifetime executive that we. can all sit here. I mean, at one time we. were trying to steal Heidi's soul." And. like, Heidi just starts hysterically.

crying in real life because she's like. so triggered by like knowing that like. she felt that. And it's like the the. pitch went so sideways like stealing her. soul. Like, "What?". Wait, Adam DeVillo said that? right hand. hand man. His his team. Literally said, "At one point we were. trying to steal Heidi's soul. Now look. where we are.". and we can all be together and like. pitch is just so funny. "That's why I felt that way for so many. years, you [ __ ] psychos.". Okay, what is the wildest thing you've. done to make a headline?

Tell us. Oh, I mean, any headline you. ever saw I was behind and and so it's. like I actually, thanks to my mom, she's. a great. I have a the biggest thing you ever seen. in your life of every cover, tabloid, everything I've ever been in and the. other day I pulled it out just to like. cuz I was going to do TikToks on them. I. was like, "Every one was the most. craziest stories." I'm like, "Made that. up. Made that up. Made that up." One. time we made our entire house look like.

it we were squatters. They're not. squatters, like squ- like uh. What are those people that like fill up. a house with stuff? Oh, hoarders. Hoarders. We filled it up with hoarders. and like, you know, like just made it. like piled up and like got a In Touch. magazine cover like, "Heidi and Spencer. are in squalor." In Touch cover. I think. we got 25K. Shout out Dan Wakeford. Um. What the [ __ ] Yeah, like so I mean, like that's like a petty one, but like. everything you could ever think of. We.

once did a deal for like a half a. million just for four covers of Us. Weekly. There's no We didn't know what. the covers were. It's like, "Let's make. stuff up, you know?" So, I'd have to go. through but like the weirdest thing that. I didn't have to do with that I saw a. headline recently that Heidi called me. uh the article said that Heidi called me. like chicken legs or something and. Spencer was going to get calf implants. So, I was like, "Calf implants?" Like. Even if I had I do have I don't have a. big calf, but like I wouldn't.

I hate needles, but like that's the. level. Calf I was like So, I have so. many of them. That is behind them all. You know what? That's a really cool that. you have those like mementos. I want to frame them all, and Heidi's. like, "There's They're not going on the. wall." I'm like, "This is art, honey. This is art.". them next to our portraits in our homes. of ourselves. We do have every cover framed, but I I. want like I want spreads framed. Like. six pages is every one of these are. That's a lot of BS that we had to make. up. I love that little coffee table.

writing cuz these like you be on, and. you just be. you know, I I should be. think people give you enough credit. I I always complain about that. That's. one of my I'm chasing credit, you know? I'm going to give it to you right now. Like you went to USC, you the whole. backstory I'm happy you told us of the. Princes of Malibu. Like knowing you went. to Brazil, you were shooting. let you watch that. I want to watch. watch. You I will let you. I'll tell you what I think. know. You're going to be like, "You. could win an Oscar." It's the.

It's insane. Like it's the work of art. Like Okay, Spencer, what are you insecure about? Not getting credit. Mhm. You know, I for like for my level. of like energy I put into success. Mhm. you know, I don't I don't I don't get. treated with any credibility. Mhm. You. know, so. that's an insecurity in the sense that. like I have worked since 2004. nonstop on.

reality TV fame and you know. and people are just like, "Oh, I hate. the guy from The Hills." It's like, "What the That took work.". Mhm. Like so. working. that's a job. Um so, you know, that's definitely an insecurity, and. you know, thankfully being a dad. created my new focus on just being like. the best dad. So, it's like. it's less selfish. So, no matter what, like I've now transitioned like I'm kind. of like a wrap. You know, like whatever.

happens with my career and like titles, like now I've already moved on to like. let me build the best superstar child. and great human. So, like that has been. a great energy shift. What I. I wish It's a hard balance cuz I learned. so many lessons, but like did Should I. have had a kid sooner Did I need to go. through everything to be ready to be a. parent? So, but insecurities. I think that's a great answer. Do you. think being a dad has changed you a lot?

It made me now thirsty again cuz I'm. like, you know, like let's get success. and I've like people are like, "Why are. you still trying to be famous?" Like. that is where I am at. Like I'm not. going to go be a banker now. I can't go. be Camilla and be a lawyer. Like even. though Kim's being a lawyer, like I. don't have that time for the baby bar. So, like I am going to be a television. star again. Going to get a show. I've. I'm going to produce. Like that's why. I'm now back in the game. Like you know, oh, no, it's it's going down. Yeah.

The the slate is strong. So, that's the. only reason why like like, "Why do you. want this again?" It's like cuz now it's. time. Like I had already I was living in. Santa Barbara at the my parents' beach. house. I was done. But now it's cuz I. could live like that with just Heidi and. eat tacos and be chill, but I want to. give my son and future family members, you know, cuz Heidi doesn't want to stop. at one. So, it's like I want to build. you know, solid, you know, cuz I grew up. with amazing life. It's too late to be a. dentist.

Spencer Pratt. I just want to look to. the camera and thank the daddy gang. Um Oh my god, for all the daddy gang. promo code daddy and you get. 20% off Pratt Daddy crystals. You know, I usually go to 15, but since. it's daddy yay and I'm Pratt Daddy. That. is funny. I was Pratt Daddy before you. were. You know, you kind of hijacked the. daddy gang, but I was like. and I used to literally claim as.

Snapchat a year as Pratt Daddy. I'll be. like gang gang. We out here gang gang. I. was like They never saw that. you didn't. I know you're too young. You. can't hijack something you didn't know. existed. No, energetically, energetically. Honestly, thank you so much for coming. on. ending. I'm going to You're going to. have to turn the camera off. leaving and Spencer's going to keep. talking. This is the real way to show. it. Thank you so much. Got to go. Goodbye. clout, um Spotify Spotify live after. room, I'm going to like be live after. her show and doing my own live room. Goodbye, Spencer. Thank you so much for.

coming on Call Her Daddy. I really do. appreciate it. It was good. I'm not going to stand up. Dude, you're right. That was great.