Megan Fox: Burned at the Stake (Full Episode)

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which is crazy. I have never done an. interview this late in my life. It's. 10:00 at night. Mhm. Are you a night owl? No, but I find. that interesting cuz you've interviewed. so many rappers and I I refuse to. believe that they showed up on time or. in the daylight. Okay, Offset didn't show up on time, but. it was the daylight. But no, I have. never done a late night interview, but I. do feel like it's kind of a vibe. You might end up loving it. Yeah. Okay. Well, I was going to say, guys, it's raining right now. There's. thunderstorms in LA. We've got candles.

going. This makes sense for a Megan Fox. episode. When you are like late night by. yourself, your kids are asleep, what is. your favorite thing to do at night. usually? Well, I usually stay by the fire and I. like to read and I read. a lot of metaphysical books, but right. now I'm reading whatever that new like. adult version of Twilight book that's. out. It's like a erotic fairy book. Wait, isn't it like the king of or the. thorn court of thorns? Yeah, I'm reading.

that. Wait, does it like kind of make you. horny? I haven't gotten to the horny. part yet. Okay. But I know that I'm. going to get there because I've I know. that he has like the ability to bind her. energetically with magic and I'm already. like I'm here for that. That'll that'll do it for you. Yeah. I remember my friend was reading it she. was like Alex I'm not kidding you I keep. waking my boyfriend up in the middle of. the night because I'm like. I'm reading about fairies but something. get me going I'm like I don't understand. it. Maybe I need to read it. I'm not.

there yet but I feel like you should and. it's definitely a lot more interesting. than most of the like psychological. textbooks that I read by the fire at. night. You're reading textbooks over there? Sometimes. You enjoy that? Can't say I enjoy it. I. think that I do it out of. I made like a really clear decision when. I was young to avoid the pitfalls or. like the traps of social media or just. internet usage in general and so I kind. of go out of my way and maybe it's.

annoying to be this way but to counter. that by. attempting to educate myself. By the. way, I didn't graduate high school. So I. think a lot of that is just like. pursuing things that I'm interested in. and wanting to have as much information. about it as possible and trying to not. become just like a a plebian or like a. mindless brainwashed sheep. I think most of us today are mindless. sheep because I feel that way sometimes.

when I'm on social media too much. I'm. like what is happening up here? Like I. I'm not When is the last time I had an. original thought? I'm mindlessly. scrolling. Yeah. We got to get it together. anxiety. Like I have group chats with my. friends and they'll send me links to. things but I don't keep like the. Instagram app downloaded or anything. like that but even just like if they. send me a link to something on Twitter. and I open the Twitter website, just the. energy from the website gives me so much. anxiety that I feel like I immediately. contract like ADHD. And I can feel how.

I'm not able my thoughts are not able to. sustain the same way. And that's just. from being exposed to it for like 5. seconds. 30 seconds and it's like get me the [ __ ]. out of here. can't imagine like what it's doing to. everyone, especially like younger kids. that are starting so early with cell. phones. It's actually terrifying. It's it's like. a drug. Call Her Daddy is brought to you. by T-Mobile. When it's time for a big juicy gossip. session with one of my friends, I need a. reliable way to get all the tea. And by.

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t-mobile.com/benefits. Something I also noticed about you is. you just announced kind of that you have. like a whole new sleeve tattoo on. Instagram. Yeah. What was the story behind that? Like how did you decide to do that? Well, I back when I dyed my hair from that. auburn colored red that it was to this. color, it was like a bright red. During. that metamorphosis, I decided I had. bought these weird. I became a victim of Temu. Wait, what?

what that app is? Yes, only because of Super Bowl. Someone. introduced me to Temu and I was like, what? What is this though? And I was. victimized and I ordered a bunch of um. like stick-on tattoos and like fun. things to do with my kids and some of. them were fake sleeves because I was. like, oh, my kids will love to do this. And I did it on me and I was like, wow, I love it and I instantly made an. appointment to get my arm done and I. started it, but the artist I was working.

with had a different vision than what I. wanted and so we got halfway up my arm. Dust in the wind was playing and just. that line repeating over and over again, nothing lasts forever. But the earth and sea and your tattoos. that you get uh kept playing and I was. like, okay, I have to stop because this. isn't my vision. It wasn't a bad tattoo, it just wasn't what I wanted. Right. So we stopped with half the. tattoo. I kept that for like 6 months. and then I found an artist to cover it. Most people would say I'm grounded, but.

I'm also very impulsive. Like when I. decide to do something, it must be done. right then. I can't decide it and then. do it months from now or I'm not a I. can't plan far into the future. It has. to happen instantly. Okay. And so once I found the cover. artist, I was like, we have to get it. done and we just did it 4 days in a row. It was like 6 hours a day. They won't. tattoo usually past 6 hours in one. sitting because your your skin starts. rejecting the ink. So I just did it 4. days in a row and sleeved it. And then. it healed very weird. It like didn't.

even peel. It was very weird. It just healed. It. was just fine. Um someone. that you know also got a lot of new ink. and I have to ask about it or I would. get roasted on the internet. Mhm. MGK, should I call him MGK or. Colson or. Colson or MGK, whatever you want. He posted and I saw all the comments of. everyone mostly being like, "What does. Megan think about his new tattoo? What. does Megan think? What does Megan. think?" And now I'm sitting here in. person with you and I'm like, "I have to. ask you." Like, "What did you think when.

you saw the tattoo?" Well, he has like a. really special story behind why he did. that, which obviously I'll leave for him. to tell. Mhm. But, he had a relationship with the. tattoos that he had that he was very. conflicted emotionally, whatever they. represented, and I don't actually know. He didn't like to revisit those memories. of the tat some of those tattoos that he. had and he wanted to get rid of them. But, I think the piece that she did for. him is very like. I think it's very art. It gives me like.

Rick Owens. It gives me like, you know, it's it's like an elevated version of. all of those tattoos that were pieced. together. I think it's really elegant. and it's kind of ahead of its time. I. think in 10 years that'll be a trend. I don't know how many people can take. that kind of pain. So, I don't know. The. people will be put to sleep and get get. the tattoos done, but he did it like. fully. awake with no painkillers and no. Did you go with him? numbing. I went to one of the sessions. Right, there's probably many. There.

there are many, yeah. And. it didn't feel like something it to me. it felt like he was going through like a. spiritual initiation and that space. needed to be respected and I didn't need. to be there. I stopped by one of them. though, but I don't actually know how he. endured that level of pain. Because he's. also tattooing on top of tattoos, so. you're tattooing the scar tissue, which. makes it even more painful. So, I I. don't know. I don't know. His liver is. also probably not doing well at this.

time. Prayers for Colson. Um I was thinking. about as I was reading those comments, I'm like, "The internet is such a wild. place." What is the craziest. rumor you've ever heard about yourself. on the internet? There's lots of those. We could talk about that for a while. Let's talk about it for a while. Okay, let's talk about it. Um I guess one of the ones that's very. persistent is that um I'm like satanic. or do satanic rituals or maybe adjacent. to Illuminati or something in that vein,

which I think really started. I don't know why it started. There was. just like that one time that I said I. drink blood ritualistically. Um and then everybody was like, "Wow, she's into satanic rituals." Um. Classic. But. that was a very misunderstood. thing. Let me try to explain it. us like some context. Okay, here's the context. Everything is. a matter of like.

what you're accustomed to or what is. currently like socially acceptable or. normal. And back in like the '50s even, how many times did you see like probably. never, but like on Leave It to Beaver or. like movies from back then or even the. '80s, how many times did you see like. little boys would go out with like their. little pop guns and they would cut their. fingers and like be blood brothers, right? And they're like, "We're best. friends forever now." And they would. like smoosh the blood together on their. fingers. Uh-huh. That's not satanic, right?

That's normal and that's cute. That's. sweet. That's like an innocent like. Little bond. Yeah, it's a little bond. between kids who love each other. They. have a pure friendship. It's like that. except instead of rubbing your fingers. together, the drop of blood goes. in your mouth. And I don't know what why. that becomes satanic. I understand. people are like, "Hey, that's weird.". But guess what I think is weird. I think.

it's weird that girls are out here. letting guys come in their mouth and. they don't know these guys. You're. letting somebody put their sperm in your. mouth and you don't know what he did he. doesn't even have a job. You might him. on [ __ ] Tinder. He's an entrepreneur. or whatever. He's in a startup. And you. just let him. sperm in your mouth. That's disgusting. That makes my back hurt. That makes me. sweaty. So [ __ ] you. You're so offended. that I got a drop of Machine Gun Kelly's. blood in my mouth. You got Brandon from Silicon Valley's.

sperm in your mouth. He didn't even buy. you a nice drink. I'm crying. Honestly though, it's a matter of. perspective. What is so gross about what I did with. my soulmate? You guys are out here. letting strangers [ __ ] on you. THIS IS. DISGUSTING. IT IS THESE ARE THE FACTS we really. needed to discuss today, Megan. We can. end the interview here. You know what I. mean? Because this is the hard-hitting. truth and I appreciate the honesty.

because when you give us a little. context, it does kind of make [ __ ]. sense. And you're right. Like anyone can. look at it any way. Like just like. Christianity when they're like drinking. wine and they believe it's the blood of. Christ. Like everyone has their thing. Like let everyone [ __ ] live. What do. you give a [ __ ] Are you drinking. someone's blood? No. So why do you. [ __ ] care if I do? Like it doesn't. matter. Exactly. is a great point about the [ __ ] and we. should circle back on that for the women. at the end of this episode. Really talk. about who should be [ __ ] inside of.

you and your mouth and Yeah, I. appreciate this. What other rumors? Do. you have any that come to mind? Oh. That's just the main one. That's That's the first one. And just to. clarify because I didn't go on record of. saying that's not true. I actually was. raised like Pentecostal Christian. I. don't I'm not currently like a part of. the church, but I definitely identify. with Christ consciousness and I'm. actually a very spiritual positive. person. Um except for recently. Except for. recently, I've been going through it a.

little bit in terms of positivity. But, um, definitely have never been a part of. a satanic ritual. Don't know any people. who've been a part of a satanic ritual. I'm not sure if the Illuminati is real. It probably is. I have not been extended. an offer to join. I feel like if it was. real, I would have been given an offer. to join by now. Um, so yeah, it's just. to squash that. Not a Satanist or any kind of like an. evil witch. Light worker. Yes,

I do, you know, rituals, but that. doesn't. that's not a negative thing. Anything is. a ritual. Taking doing your skin care. routine is a ritual. Going to church is. a ritual. So, I think people have to. separate that word. That word has been. demonized for so long. Yeah. that it's just been very. misunderstood. And also, I think we. exacerbated it because Halloween of that. year, um, I dressed up in bondage with a. dog collar around my neck and he dressed. up as a priest and he was feeding me.

communion on my knees and we we. we played Marilyn Manson's, um, Sweet Sweet Dreams. We played that. That. was the song to the and people felt like. that was a confirmation of the satanic. rituals. So, you can kind of see like where. people may like. They may I can see I can see where I. planted a seed and and there grew a tree. in its place. But, you're here to chop. down the tree be like, it never [ __ ]. happened. Yeah, he he didn't want me to clarify. He was like, it's actually so much just.

let them think this that it's so much. cooler that people think we're this. bizarre, that we're this weird, that. we're doing this kind of weird ma-. magical weird [ __ ] in our basement. Like, let them think that this is what's. going on. But, it is kind of a testament. to like everything they see on social. media as face value and it's like it's. not that deep. It was Halloween. Let's. go back to the beginning, Megan Fox. What were you like as a kid? I told my mom when I was two that I was. going to be a famous actress. So, I knew.

and that wasn't out of passion for. acting, I'll be honest. I just always. knew that that's what it was going to. be. I had like an awareness of my. destiny for some reason at a young age. And I was a tomboy when I was a little. kid. I was always outside. Um I had like. a very assertive energy as a child and. whenever my mom would get like secret. psychic readings because she was. Pentecostal, so that was a no-no to see. psychics. They would always read that. she had an older daughter and a younger.

son and that the younger son was me. Um. and I'm not really sure why I always. came through that way except that I have. No one's going to know what I'm talking. about right now, but I have Mars on my. ascendant in astrology. So, I have like. a warrior energy that I was born with. and I think that was translated as being. like maybe masculine as a child cuz it. wasn't docile, but I was. like a good kid. I was like a little. mischievous. and never interested in school, always.

knew that that was not for me. What was the dynamic like in your house? Um my parents got divorced when I was. three. and. prior to that, I just remember both my. parents are still alive and so I want to. be careful not to drag them, but while. also being honest. I remember my. mother's depression was really really. affected me very deeply and it was very. visceral for me. And like if I were to. draw an image of my mother from my.

childhood, it would be her like This is. not a literal image, but she just always. seemed like like a soaking wet blanket. or like like draped over a couch like. weeping. That was That would be like my. image of mother because I was so. connected to her sadness or her. her feelings of being unfulfilled and. also her resentment towards. relationships. My dad, before I skip ahead, my dad is. like really outgoing and funny and.

charming and like really unique and. sparkly. And they. she was I don't know, she was not. fulfilled in that relationship for. whatever reason. They got divorced. From my perspective. as a 3-year-old, he kind of disappeared. for a little while. She immediately got. remarried. My stepdad who is past was um. probably had borderline personality, but. back then he was diagnosed I think. bipolar. And so he was emotionally and. mentally and verbally very abusive to.

me, not to her. Um and he isolated me. from her and. just in general, like I wasn't allowed. to have friends over or like go to. anyone's house. So I spent a lot of time. isolated in my room. Um and wasn't able to really. even spend much He wanted her I I guess. he isolated her is really what was. happening. But it seemed as though I was. the one being isolated. Then I watched her depression through.

that relationship as well. And so the. messaging that I received is that men. and marriage in particular drain you of. your life force and keep you from being. able to express your creativity or. express your unique desires. And it's an. oppressive experience to be in a. relationship or to be in love or to be. married. In particular being married. Like when I say the word being married, I feel my I feel my chakras tighten up. I feel my back like yeah, gets tight.

even though I was married for a long. time. So that does that does that answer your. question about my dynamic? it is interesting and you have one. sibling? Are you older or younger? no, I have an older sister, but she's 12. years older, so she was going to college. when I was still really young and she. was gone a lot cuz prior to that when I. was really young, she was in high school. and she wasn't around much and she had a. boyfriend and she got married and she. moved out. So, I was alone a lot and. trying to make sense of.

my mom's depression and the disconnect. and then the like. the emotional violence coming from my. stepfather and also wanting to be with. my dad more and not being able to to be. around him because he always was. a light and he still is a light and but. he. was separated from me in a way where I. couldn't I couldn't get to the light. It's kind of like you can't get to God. That that constant like wanting to.

connect with the father figure like. either spiritually or literally. Yeah. I yeah, I feel like a lot of people that. I've talked to I have such empathy for. people that. whether literally or just like by age. kind of had a upbringing that you're. essentially an only child like your. sister being so much older than you like. you were in the house alone and I feel. like a lot of times when there's such. chaos from the parents like there is.

I found you can have such an emotional. connection to siblings because you can. look at someone to your right and your. left and be like oh, we're going through. the same [ __ ] whereas when you're an. only child essentially in those moments. you can only internalize think what's. wrong with me or. hate what's going on around you and try. to do the complete opposite of what your. parents did. I feel like obviously we've. seen in movies you play just like the. most popular hot girl and when you got. to high school cuz I know you said when. you were younger you were very. tomboyish, you would be alone. What was. your high school dynamic like? Like were.

you the cool girl or were you the. opposite of that? No, in middle school I had I was always. a loner, I guess, and not necessarily by. choice, but. Have you ever taken the Enneagram test? Do you know what that is? know what that is. Do you know what number you are? forget what number I'm in now. a one, if I had to guess. god, what does that mean? Is that a good. number? Or a or a seven. Actually, you're. probably a seven, the enthusiast. What. the [ __ ] is. Take Take it and then tell me Take it.

and then like I don't know how this. works, but like insert it into this. interview and tell me if I was right. pops up and I'm like, I am a one. She. was like, a seven is. Seven. I think you're the. enthusiast. I'm a four, which is um I. think in in that one they call it the. romantic, but it's a it's a personality. that's been developed where I identify. as being an outcast or being so. incredibly unique and unusual that no. one could ever understand me. And so for. me, like the the worst insult you could. give me is that I blend in with everyone.

else or I have like a vanilla. personality or that I'm normal. But that actually stems from a family. environment where I didn't feel that I. belonged and never felt a part of. anything. And then as I went out into. the world in school, that was also. reflected back to me where I didn't fit. into a friend group and I wasn't. received well by kids. And then as I. left school and went out into the world. as a famous person, the world received. me that way as well with a lot of. contention and.

um a lot of negativity and a lot of. projection. And so it's a part of my. identity, but it's a survival mechanism. to say. I I'm a pariah. Like I'm I'm an outlier. That's That's who I am and and I'm proud. of that and that's who I need to be now. That's how I self-identify, but really. that comes from a deep wound of. looking to have belonged somewhere at. some point in my life and never finding. a place that I fit. That's really. actually interesting to hear cuz I was.

going to say like on one hand it is a. survival mechanism for you to get. through but I'm also like isn't that. lonely? Yeah. Yeah, it's super lonely but I was a. lonely baby. I've been I've been lonely. my whole life. So and when I meet with. like I've met every healer, every. psychic, every they're always like well. this is you're a nine life path. This is. your life last life. You're an old soul. Old souls are lonely. Old souls are sad.

You've been doing this a long time. You've been through a lot of trauma. You've had every kind of experience you. can have and there's like this sort of. bittersweet experience of. it's. uh it's lonely but I also know that part. of my purpose is to be in service to. others, my children in particular. But yeah, it's not a it's not a. particularly like. I feel alone. Yeah. A lot. But to answer. your question about high school and. middle school, I wasn't cool. I had an.

eating disorder in middle school, a. really bad one. I had to be hospitalized. twice. And I was left in there like. I my mom will say she took me out for. Christmas. I don't think that's. accurate. I think I was in there for. Christmas. But I was in there for a few. months at a time every time they would. put me in. Essentially I was 5150'd. because my eating disorder was so bad. Um I had braces. I had plucked out all. of my eyebrows. Um and when you do that, when you pluck your eyebrows by the way. for anyone that's ever going to do this, if you do that when you're sick or your.

immune system is down, those hairs don't. grow back. So plucked my eyebrows but. out most of them never grew back. you pluck them out? It it was like a like cutting or like. any kind of a I was just. doing things to myself to like. not disfigure myself but it was a. compulsive action that I didn't. understand at the time. And then in high school like if you saw. my high school yearbook picture I'm that. by that point I was cute again. Yeah. I. had figured it out somehow, but equally.

as lonely and like isolated and I had a. friend. But I've never had like a friend group. How did boys treat you in high school? I. had a high school boyfriend. I didn't I don't know. At that point I. had started like some modeling in Miami. and doing like auditioning for acting. things. I think during high school I did. that Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen movie. I'm not exactly. I think I was like 16, 17.

Um. the kids in school I didn't get like a. real reaction from the boys in school. But as I went out into the world doing. that stuff I started getting reactions, but also from like much older men, which. was weird. Because they were not my peer. group obviously and that sent a whole. another like set of confusing messages. Uh yeah. I'm curious before we do get into that. like when people probably think of Megan. Fox in high school, they're like, uh I. would have killed to look like you. Like.

did you have insecurities? Yeah, I've. had body dysmorphia since I was probably. like. five. I can remember sitting in the back. of my sister's car. She was getting. married and I even remember what I was. wearing. I had black shorts that had. white polka dots on them and I was five. and this is crazy when I look at my. children cuz now I understand what it is. to be 5 years old and I was in the back. seat looking at my legs being like, I. have such fat thighs. My thighs are so. fat. I was five. But I also had like a. I think I was blonde in a past life.

Or and or. I mean I've had many past. lives. Whenever I would look in the mirror as a. child, I was like, that's not me. That never felt like me. I Nothing about. that face, the hair, the skin color, the. body, that wasn't me. I never associated. that with me and so I think that's. because I have a strong tie to some of. my other lifetimes and it was always. hard for me to accept that this is who I. am in this lifetime and that goes back.

to when my parents were still married. So I was like two or three. My mom said. that I used to go into the bathroom and. stand on the toilet and pull up my shirt. to see if my boobies had grown and I. would get really upset that I didn't. have big boobs and now I $30,000 later. now I do. Solved that problem. Honestly, girl, get it. I was going to. Yeah, cuz I was going to ask you like I. know you've been open about body. dysmorphia and I know that just doesn't.

just go away and like where do you think. that. control of cuz that's essentially a. control thing of like you're trying to. control how you look. Like what were you. What do you think now you look back. you're trying to achieve? I think. ultimately at the time that I was going. through it, it was loss of control. because of the the dynamic between. myself and my stepfather and having no. like no autonomy at whatsoever and like. not being able to have friends or to. leave the house or to even like do. things freely inside the house but prior.

to that it was just a feeling of being. defective or being unwanted. And for. whatever reason, I'm not sure why it. manifested specifically as that and not. as like addiction issues which I've. never had. But it it it manifested as. body dysmorphia and self-esteem instead. Your ex-husband made headlines recently. when he said that you never got to. experience being a single young woman.

because you guys met when you were only. 18 and he was 31 at the time. Mhm. Do you agree with him? Like do you feel. like you missed out on anything because. of that relationship? I feel like. first First all, let me just say. I was not a great girlfriend to Brian. I'll be very honest. And like. he was not great to me either all the. time, but I think it would be easy for. me to lean into and complain about or.

let it seem like that relationship was. one way that maybe I was not great. because I was young and really should. not have been in a relationship of that. that level of commitment and that. magnitude with the I I shouldn't have. been involved in that when I was 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 I shouldn't have been. So, I did a lot of like falling in love. with other people all the time. Um I. would go to work and. fall in love because I was a kid and um.

yeah, I never had the full freedom to. like be single and experience that life. And I thought for a minute when I got. divorced that that's what I was going to. do. And I was single for like. 3 weeks. And Megan. then. Then you just met that guy. Yeah, I. thought I was really going to go full. like Leo DiCaprio for a while. That. would have been really like fun to. watch. Everyone says that to me.

Um. Everyone agrees. I now need to know. because you referenced in the beginning. of this interview like it literally. makes your skin crawl when you think. about marriage, but you did get married. Like how did you decide to do that? I. think because then I was so unaware of. my feelings cuz I was so so much younger. and this is before I had my kids and. most of my growth and like. awareness came after childbirth. So, prior to that I was very.

I just wasn't aware that oh marriage. makes me feel any particular way. That. was something I did kind of impulsively. Um also, it was like an adventure to to. go on and to do. And I'd already been. with him for so many years at that. point. And I do feel like karmically I was. supposed to have those kids with him, of. course. So, I didn't realize. you know, I wasn't looking at myself. being like, oh, I'm reenacting. my mother's life. I'm or I'm carrying my. mother's burdens or I'm carrying, you.

know, the things that she projected onto. me. I was not able to recognize any of. that. I was just in the moment and had. not had therapy or anything like that. And I had not started reading and. educating myself. So, I was just acting. and doing. And I got myself into a relationship, which I of course found. no shade to Brian, unfulfilling because. inevitably that's what I was going to do. because I was reenacting what I watched. my mother do as a child. Yeah, I think that's something that's.

like fascinating when you get into. therapy, you're like, oh, [ __ ] Like, I'm just I literally said I didn't want. to be like my mother and I'm turning. into my mother and it's on us, obviously, to like take some of the. accountability of our lives to be like, pause, how do I try to change this? But. it's really [ __ ] hard to not do what. we saw growing up. Mhm. When I think about you and and. since the rise of your career, I feel. like your name in the public eye has. been synonymous with the phrase sex.

symbol, right? How does that make you. feel? I've never been like particularly. attached to that, to be honest. I'm not. like I don't have an emotional. reaction to that. I don't believe, but. let me sit here and analyze it while. you're asking me. I think it adds. pressure. to a girl who. like I said has body dysmorphia and. didn't really ever see herself that way. And the the things that I thought were. my strengths, like my mind, my.

intelligence or um it. my sense of humor, which is granted. like, very niche sometimes, but um those. things are not acknowledged, and instead. I'm being acknowledged for something. that I don't identify with or as, and so. that's almost like. this artifice, it's like forcing me to. wear. a character that I don't actually. I wasn't trying to wear, and then also.

you assign the character to me, and then. you torture and demonize the character, and I was never that I was never her, like, you you created her. and then you murdered her. And. that I love that I started this out by. being like, I don't have an emotional. attachment to this. Like, you [ __ ] killed me, [ __ ] But. um I think. to just being called a sex symbol, I. don't initially have a reaction.

Yeah. But to the whole process of what. really happened, and it goes it's into. just being famous in general, and the. process of fame has been really. haunting, to be honest, because, like I. said the media and people built up this. character and then decided to destroy. her because. I I I don't know why there's a need to. like, worship and then.

and destroy, worship and then destroy. And. I was always a sensitive kid. but I had to wear armor to survive my. childhood, and I had to wear armor to. survive being famous, and so there's. this energy of me of that, you know, that I don't give any [ __ ] and to some. degree that's true in terms of I would. never change anything about myself in. order to get someone to like me. So, in. that way, I don't give any [ __ ] That.

doesn't mean that I don't get my. feelings hurt and that when I'm being. bullied or dragged that that doesn't. cause me to be mentally unwell sometimes. because it absolutely does and did. And. in. 2009. crossing into 2010, I had been famous. not even that long, only a couple of. years, but the fame was so heightened. It was so intense. that all the energy started peaking and. I was going through this process of I.

was getting crucified in the press every. day and on whatever the blogs were at. that time. There was no social media, but like Perez Hilton and like. was it Nikki Swift? There were some. other bloggers who were so mean. Daily. Mail, whatever. what they would like say about you? the same exact things they say right. now. You could swap the articles from. this year with 2009 and 2010, it's the. exact same thing. Obviously like. being a [ __ ] being a [ __ ] Now I have.

kids for people to project on and be. like, but aren't you're a shitty mom. I. didn't have that at the time, but it was. just like you're a shitty person for. whatever reason. Um. plastic surgery, fake, um talentless, uh. There's so many There's so many. headlines. I used to get chased by. paparazzi who would be like. um. Megan, everybody's saying that you're. overrated. Do you think that you're. overrated? Megan, everybody's saying.

that you shouldn't have got your nose. done. Nobody likes your new nose. Are. you embarrassed that you got your nose. done? Are you sad? Do you regret getting. your nose done? Megan, um why are you. such a [ __ ] Why does nobody like you? Like grown men, right? Chasing you with. Back then, this was like TMZ cameras. They don't talk to you like that. anymore, but back then they did. So, you're in life getting bullied by actual. grown adult men with cameras everywhere. you go. Then there's like the online. presence of just getting torn to shreds. for everything that you do, everything.

that you wear, how you look, every. single flaw, every pimple, every scar, every. 5 lb you gain, 5 lb you lose. You're You. can't win. And that energy was peaking. and it was every day. And during 2009, they had a blackout, a Megan Fox. blackout, where the media all agreed to. not post any content about me for a. whole day. Which by the way, I was like, I hope you do this every day. Thank you.

But the attitude was that oh, this is. that I was a fame [ __ ] or an attention. [ __ ] which is the opposite of the. truth. I'm extremely introverted and. horrified by having to be in front of. people or cameras. Um. but it got so bad at that point, I was. just like, hey, I can't survive the. criticism and the bullying anymore. Like, I actually can't live. Every time. I step out of my house, someone has. something to say about how I look, or.

it's going to be It started to become a. witch hunt, where I felt like tabloids. would send photographers with the. intention of getting a bad photograph or. getting a bad getting a bad story. This. was around the time It may have been a. little before, but it was in the years. of when Britney shaved her head. Mhm. And so. the media at that time, they were on. witch hunts and they would set out to. try and find something negative. Um the. ugliest picture they could get to splash.

it everywhere, because that's what. people want to That gets the most. engagement, obviously, even back then. before. socials existed. And that's when I sort of stepped away. for a long time and I was like, I'm good. to just. not be involved in this anymore, because. I actually can't sustain this amount of. damage. It's not normal. And I also feel. like it was kind of just me at that. time, whereas now all of us get it. There's so many other girls that are. getting it constantly, but back then it.

really was kind of just me. There wasn't. another actress that was getting it the. same way I was getting it. Like as I'm. listening to you, it's first of all it's. [ __ ] exhausting. Like I cannot. imagine and what you're sharing with me. in the beginning of this being like at. such a young age I looked in the mirror. and I was like I literally cannot. connect with my physical appearance and. it's so hard for me to look at myself. and be like is that me in the mirror? I. don't feel that way. To know the eating disorders and the. body dysmorphia like what you were going. through, how exacerbated it then became.

because you became famous. If you had to. say and I know there's like no answer, but like. why do you think people. are so obsessively trying to pick at you. and pull you down? I don't know. I think like if I were to. try and speak about it from a spiritual. angle, that's. I'm the architect of this experience and. so I'm drawing this to me because my.

soul needs to. learn and deal with these feelings and. be able to transcend this. I believe in. a past life I actually was burned at the. stake for being a witch, so I think. that's an energy that I've had like. through lifetimes and it's carried into. this lifetime as well because that is. essentially what is happening today. every day. People don't realize it, but. they all wake up and they're just a. reincarnated medieval mob and they have. their pitchfork and their lantern and.

they're like who do we get to burn at. the stake today? Who do we get to cancel. today? Who do we get to destroy today? And that's the first thing they do. They. go on Twitter and they're like what's. trending? This. I want to join in on. this. And that's also something that. should be studied is like. why do people want to join in. on. something so which is essentially. psychological violence? Why do you want. to join in on that? Because I think most. people, if you were walking on the. street and you saw me or you saw Kim or.

Kylie or any of these other girls and we. were being beaten by a mob of people, your instinct is not going to be to join. the mob and to beat us. It would. probably be to either help or to go get. help. However, when you watch that same. thing happen online and it's the. psychological violence, the instinct is. to join. And that's a very weird. That's a very weird instinct that people. have that they should ask themselves, like why do I want to be a part of.

tormenting, torturing, mocking, making. fun of, or bullying when we do. understand the ramifications and the. danger of doing this? It's. such a good way to look at it and it's. [ __ ] terrifying and I think. I think that as I'm sitting here. listening to you, like. I also just have to like acknowledge, like you are conventionally like a. beautiful woman. Like you have been.

called in certain years like the most. beautiful woman in the world and I think. people cannot accept. that you could have it all. You can't be. this beautiful and be smart. You can't. be that beautiful and be a good person. and I think it brings so many. insecurities out in people when they. look at you. I think for women, like I. remember I just saw a TikTok of this. woman who was like, I just lost 100 lb. and my life is so different because I.

used to walk in rooms and women would. befriend me and men treated me like [ __ ]. and now it's the opposite. I walk in a. room and every [ __ ] woman looks at me. like a threat and every man is opening. the door for me, treating me like a. queen, and I'm like, "Whoa. I just lived. two different [ __ ] experiences in a. year, and I'm like, which one would I. choose?" But, I think you threaten women. because you're confident and beautiful. and educated and smart, and we're all. like, "Fuck you. You can't be like. that." But, to men, I mean, I was going.

to read this to you. I was like, "What. the [ __ ] is wrong with the world?" I. read an old article, okay? And they they described you as. a screensaver on a teenage boy's laptop, a middle-aged lawyer's shower fantasy, and a sexual prop used to sell movies. Like, the objectification of you, Megan. Fox, is so much larger than you. It is. like the embodiment of misogyny and.

what's wrong with our [ __ ] society, and it's terrifying even hearing though. it come from your own voice of like, "I. didn't ask for this." I didn't I'm not. out there selling my body and my soul to. this. Like, I'm just trying to do my. job, and somehow people are like, "Take. her the [ __ ] down." Like, Yeah, I also it was always confusing to. me because I never really did. anything bad. I was never like. associated with drugs or alcohol. I was.

never around, until recently, anyone. who's been associated with drugs or. alcohol. I was never caught at clubs. I. was never arrested. I was never I I. never did anything outside of having. like. a kind of Andy Kaufman-esque sense of. humor, which people don't understand. That is my greatest crime. And so it was. very hard to understand in the. beginning. And I'll be honest with you, it's hard to keep enduring it because I.

did step away for a decade. And I did. all this work on myself spiritually and. thought that I was transcending and. growing and becoming a better person. And so when I got divorced and I started. dating Colson, inevitably I was sort of. thrust back into the light, the. synthetic light, not the real light. And. I thought that either it would be. different, I would be attracting a. different experience to myself this time. because my level of consciousness was so. much higher, or my ability to deal with.

it would be so much better at this point. because I was person. And I have not. found that to be the case at all. Like. I've been doing it and it's going on the. fourth year now. Um and it is wearing me. down. I'll be honest. Like. it's very hard I think because I don't. have a family support system or like a. large group of I don't feel that I. belong because I am I do feel so alone. Like you said when you have to deal with. something and you don't have siblings or.

you feel like you're by yourself, you. internalize and then it can become very. grim very quickly. And I do I am kind of. getting to the end of my rope with that. I'll be honest. Like I'm I'm I'm. struggling with it again. It feels like. I was in a a wormhole. Like I left 2009. and I'm like right back in where I left. off and there was no growth which makes. me feel defeated. And I just I really I can't believe how.

negative human beings are and how. cruel they need to be to everyone. This. is not just me, but that also weighs on. me because I have kids. I have one kid. who's. like an artistic savant and that kid. will inevitably be in the spotlight. somehow. It's impossible that they. won't. And I know how cruel the world is. because I've lived through it and I. don't think I can endure watching what. my child is going to have to go through.

Um so I'm really struggling with that as. well of like not wanting my kids to have. to be exposed. I was going to say it's also just like. this vicious cycle like you said like. everyone builds someone up. We've seen. it with so many stars online and then. the minute you're at the top they break. you down and I already know it's like if. you disappear again and you go away Oh. my god, we miss Megan. to me twice. When I went away, there was. like this surge of like. I hate this phrase but it applies. I.

would not normally say this. There was that peak in energy where I. was getting crucified every day. I went away. I disappeared. I was like. fine, [ __ ] it, you win. The world had. like their post nut clarity. and they were like. Wait, but. why did we. why did we kill her? Why did we murder. her? She never did anything. What did. she do? She was actually like. she was actually a positive she she. stood for a lot of really good things. Like we should have given her her.

flowers. Why did we do that? [ __ ] And. then I step back. I'm like. was someone knocking? Were you guys Were. you guys calling me? I'm I'm here. I'm. here to receive my flowers. And it was. immediate just murder. Done. Immediately. And so What the [ __ ]. That experiencing that cycle like you. said if I were to disappear again right. now like I did in 2009 which believe me. I'm very tempted to do because I am not. well at this moment. The same thing. would happen.

where people would be like Oh, but she. brought you know, she had this. messaging. She was such a smart girl. She was a grounded girl. She was. encouraging. She was supportive of other. women. She was this. She was that. She. was I promise you 40 years after I'm. dead, it's going to be like with not to. compare myself to Marilyn, but the way. she died and then everyone's like well, you know, she was a genius. You know, she had a 142 IQ. That's going to happen. to me too. I'll years from now I'll be. dead and then somebody will have. something nice to say about me. But. living, it's not going to happen.

like making me think as you're just. talking and I'm staring at you. Like you. are so bright and you have so much to. offer and it makes me sad because I know. so many people will listen to this and. be like wait, she's actually like really. [ __ ] dope. But it shouldn't take you. sitting for an hour and talking if it. you're a kind person. You've never done. anything to anyone so you shouldn't have. to prove yourself. But it's like. frustrating that this there's this pull. and push on the internet and you just.

can't [ __ ] win and I'm sorry you have. to deal with that. Um I'm curious like. how did how did and how has this like. extreme focus on your look and body. impacted your relationship to sex? That's a good question. I have Virgo in. my eighth house so. Megan, you got to like talk to the. girlies that are like [ __ ] I have no. idea what you're talking about. I know. I know I'm trying. I think. Google it. Yeah, you got to.

you got to deeply Google to understand. what I'm talking about there but I. it does affect obviously anything that's. going on with your self-esteem affects. your relationship to sex. But I will say I feel like as I took. more control of my body actually because. when I was younger. it was like really scandalous to get. anything done. So my boobs have been. fake by the way since I was 21.

or 2. I got them done in between the. first and second Transformers but I had. them done conservatively. I've done this. way too many times during this. interview. I hate it. You got to like. you got to AI those out. I can't I can't keep doing that. I'll. just bump it in your face when you do. it. Okay. Um. where was I? Okay, so I had them I I had. they were very conservative cuz back. then you had you everyone did the work. but you had to do work that was. undetectable. Obviously, people have. been doing work since Hollywood began.

That's the way the studios would bring. you in and do a screen test and be like, "Okay, John Wayne, he needs a chin. implant. Marilyn, she needs a nose. She. needs this. She needs that." That's the. oldest story ever told, but back at that. time when I was doing it, it had to be. unno- unnoticeable. But I always that little girl that was. in the mirror like, "Where are my. boobies? I always wanted big boobies.". And so I want I wasn't happy with the. first set. The same thing with like. We might Can we just talk about plastic. surgery since we're on this topic? Yeah.

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like, 'Well, we we say these things, we. bully you.'" Some of my favorite. comments are from women, and I don't. often read them, but sometimes I'm in. the mood, and I'm like, "I want to. interact with a troll." And it takes 1. second for them to start pouring into my. Instagram feed or in my my comments. And. they're often from women where I'll be. like, "Holy [ __ ] that is a particularly. cruel thing to say. Who is this person?". And I'll click on it, and she'll be. like, "Women's life coach, crystal healing, loving God,

tantric lessons, divine feminine." And she's under my. comments being like, you know, crucifying me for being plastic or. whatever. So, there's but they if you. were to ask her, she would be like, "Well, that's because she perpetuates an. unhealthy standard of beauty, right?". Mhm. But, and so here I am, I'm going to. be fully transparent. I still won't win. because there are some girls who have. been who have been transparent. I don't.

want to like bring people in, but. someone like a Kylie has been very. transparent. That is not helping her. People are women are still brutally. dragging her just the same. Uh-huh. And totally undeserved. She's a. beautiful, healthy, young, gorgeous. girl. And I actually feel for whatever. reason very protective when I watch. other girls go through this. I want to. defend them or. go to war for them. But, okay, I'll go through. Here's. things I haven't done that I have been. accused of doing. Okay. And then I'll confirm the things I.

have done. Okay. I've never had a facelift of any. kind. So, no mid-facelift, no like. lateral brow lift, although I would like. one, or no regular brow lift. Um I've. never done threads. I have researched. them. That's not because of some moral. thing. I just don't really believe they. work and I'm also afraid that they would. interfere when I do need to have a. facelift. But I am very tempted to go. have my eyebrows snatched like all the. way. I want I want that look sometimes. That seems fun. And you can do it on a.

lunch break and I see why it's so. tempting and I I have researched it, have not done it yet. Um, I've never had. this done. What is this? Oh, buccal fat? Buckle fat? Buccal fat? I've never had that done. I'll never. have any fat removed. I'm a very like. lean person that doesn't have enough. body fat or fat in my face. So I will. only ever put fat in. I will never be. taking fat out. Which leads me to I've. never had any like liposuction or body. contouring or anything like that. I've. never had What are other things you can.

have? Butt implants? I mean I I'd be so. flattered if somebody thought I had a. BBL. That. If I If I could, I would. I I don't have. I don't have the extra body fat. I would. get it done if I could. And. and that that surgery is such a hard one. to recover from. It's so insane. It's. basically like 3 months you have to lay. flat on your face. You're bruised for an. eternity. If I were to ever do that, I.

would come out with I I would be like if. I'm going to survive that surgery, you're going to give me. an ass that's like an anomaly. Like I'm. you're I'm going to walk through a park. and I'm going to turn around and. everyone is going to be whispering and. laughing and talking because they're. like, "What What are we looking at?". Like circus freak. That If I'm going. through that healing process, I want that. I'm not coming out with. like, "Oh, has she been Has she been. like really hitting the gym lately? Extra squats?" No. I want it to be.

massive. Yeah, it's got to be it's got. to stop people in their tracks. Okay, but I don't have the body fat to. do that, so that's never going to. happen. But at the time when when in the. future you can take donated fat from. people, I will be doing that and you. will be seeing this situation. This situation go down in the park. Okay, what you have What I have had. done, like I said, I had my boobs done. when I was. 21 or 22. I had them redone after I was.

done breastfeeding my kids because I. don't know where they went, but they. went. And then I had to have them redone. very recently because the first set I. didn't have enough body fat to disguise. You could see the rippling of the. implants, so I had to switch them out to. this set. I don't like surgery. My body. does not react well to general. anesthesia. And so. when I go to have a surgery, it's a very. big deal and I have my all my doctors. have to meet with me before and have to. tell me if they've seen any omens, if.

they saw any owls, crows, if anyone. stepped on a spider, if any of there are. any dead insects, like my doctors have. to go through this with me because I'm. very afraid of dying under general. anesthesia. So I don't take surgery. lightly and therefore I have not had. many of them because of that. So that's. probably a saving grace that I have this. paranoia or this fear because God knows. what I would have been up to. doctors think you're insane? They're. like, "Oh, this bitch.". me. No, they love me. Yes, I saw an owl, Megan. Let's reschedule. No, we all we all And by the way, I'm.

like, "I'll still pay for the surgery. Just do not also Make sure the music. playlist no music comes up that reminds. you of like your ex-girlfriend or an. ex-wife or anything that's going to make. you upset because you are the surgeon. You need to be in a good headspace. If. you have a fight with your wife, do not. come in for surgery." I go through all. of these protocols because. make us all like a list of like a little. pre-op situation. to Any surgery is a risk to your life. I. don't care what anyone says. That's the. truth. Going under general anesthesia is. a risk to your life. Yep. So, um when I had to go in for this.

set, I was like, "Look, if you're going. to put me to sleep, if I'm going to be. sick for 2 months from the general. anesthesia, if I'm going to feel if I'm. going to go through cuz I'm not fully. ever asleep, so my soul's like fighting. on the surgical table to wake up. It's a. very traumatizing experience for me. I. was like, I better wake up with the. biggest boobs you can fit in my body.". And that is what he said he did. And. they're not even that big. They're a 32.

D, which is not that big. They just look. big on my body cuz my body's tiny. Right. Right. But if like if you could have gone. bigger, I would have had him go bigger. because I don't like surgery and the. fact that I had to do it, I was like, "I. want a reward for the suffering I have. to go through. I don't want to wake up. with a full B cup. There's no [ __ ]. point in that. I'm not doing it.". Wait, you want titties. I wanted titties. I said, "I want I. don't care what's on trend. Give me. 1990s stripper. titties. That's what I want." And he did.

it. Girl, you look amazing. And then um I had my nose done when I. was in my early 20s, and that's. something I've literally been accused of. having like six, seven, eight. rhinoplasty surgeries, which is. impossible. Your nose would get necrosis. and fall off. Um, I haven't had a. rhinoplasty since I was. I'm going to say 23. It's been well over. a decade. I haven't I've not touched my. nose since then. We didn't contour my nose. Yes, we did.

WE DIDN'T CONTOUR MY NOSE. NO, WE. DIDN'T. Your nose looks tiny. Shut the [ __ ] up. We didn't contour it. Jenna, you're fired. contour half Should we show everyone how. I contour my nose? Shut the [ __ ] up. You Your nose looks. No. can make it tiny like a little Elven. princess. I make it so small within. within 1 in of its life I contour it. And so I think people think I keep. constantly working on it. It is just the. contour. I can't believe I can't believe. I'm doing an interview without nose.

contour on. I'm traumatized. You don't. understand what a big deal this is. This. is like me not having done my eyebrows. Very scary for me. I'm traumatized that you think that your. nose won't look good right now because. I'm like the [ __ ] does my nose look. I like to I like to contour it down. until it's just nostrils like Voldemort. Just no nose. Just just two holes here. After this can you teach me how you. contour your nose and I'll do it next to. you? Yeah, but I'm I'm freaking out that.

I'm not I don't have it on. You look so gorgeous. You're going to. keep going. This is good for you. This. is good for you. She's got to keep. going. Okay. had your nose done, you've had your tits. done, and what? Botox and filler? That's yeah, that's it, right? Oh, there's one thing I had done that I'm. gatekeeping because. Sorry. What? It was it was really good and it's not a. known like plastic surgery. People don't. even really know about it. Will you tell. me off camera? Yeah. You don't need it, I don't think.

Really? You you're not going to want it. I. wanted it very badly and I needed to do. it and it's something that. Can you give us a hint? No. Okay, so that's it? Yeah, it's actually. not that much. It's not that In terms of. surgery, it's not that much. Now when it. comes to lasers and stuff like that, I've done everything you could possibly. think of doing and I always will. I. don't understand the point of shaming. people for getting stuff done. Granted, I'm not encouraging anyone to. do anything crazy and like I said, you.

need to be very safe and very careful. when you do any of this stuff, even. fillers. Like people that get fillers in. their nose, you can get necrosis from. that. Like none of this [ __ ] is really. safe. It all comes with a risk. So. I'm not encouraging people to just go. out like blindly and do things. You. should do your research. However, it's a. very weird thing to shame somebody for. and coming back to your question about. sex, the more that I've taken control of. my body and done the things that I've.

always wanted to do, the more. comfortable I am in my body and the more. freedom I have sexually and the more. embodied I feel sexually and am more. like playful and confident in that way. versus when I was. wearing a body that didn't feel like my. body because I always wanted it to be. different. Yeah, I appreciate you sharing that. though because I think you're right. It's like to the women that are shaming. women for getting work done. If you are. so triggered, that probably means you.

have an insecurity where have you maybe. you've thought of getting fillers or. Botox or something but maybe you're too. scared so then you shame women that have. done it. It's like what if and if you. don't want it, why do you care if. another woman gets it? It's all. projection. When someone is so angry. looking at you, it's. it is based in some form of jealousy. Like we have to just call it what it is. But also where does the logic end of. like what. why won't you take it to shaming people. for coloring their hair? So true. You know what I'm saying or.

wearing gel nails or where does that. logic stop? What's what's natural enough. for you and then what's fake and. what's the barometer and like why do we. all have to follow some kind of. a standard? It doesn't make any sense. like Can we talk about your book for a. second? Yeah. So you released your book Pretty Boys. are Poisonous. and you basically write about the fact. that you have your entire life kept the.

secrets of men which again if anyone. asks like why it's like we kind of. talked about that today. It's like. what the [ __ ] You're going if you say. it, no one believes you or they shame. you or they call you a [ __ ] like. there's certain reasons why women don't. come forward and say these things and. you wrote a lot in this book. One of the things one of the common. themes I wrote down was like throughout. the book you talk about minimizing. yourself in order to make a man or men.

feel comfortable and confident and. important. When was the first time you remember. doing that in a relationship? Like. bringing yourself down. So tricky. because my relationships are public so. it's hard to say but I would say very. early on like when I first started. going to. award shows and things like that feeling. judged for.

like my naive excitement over like first. experiencing some kind of success or. like being at like oh my god I'm at the. MTV awards like wow this is so cool and. that being met with um. what felt to be criticism or judgement. and then me shrinking and receiving the. message that. it was embarrassing to. like these things or to be happy to be a. part of these things and that I needed. to quell that and.

reject it maybe. Have you ever had someone that. like had a very strong opinion to be. like you're not allowed to wear that or. don't. be like as outgoing in at events like. how controlling have you experienced. relationships become? I haven't had. somebody. um. control clothing and things like that. Um but definitely.

yeah definitely just down to like. maintaining too much eye contact with. someone else or having um. being too curious during a conversation. or to the point where it's like, well, I. just won't talk to anyone. I just won't. look at anyone. I won't shake anyone's. hands. Like. I'll just sit. And that's that's one of. the poems you're referring to is I think. it was the art of becoming an accessory. and feeling like an accessory where I'm. there, but why am I there and what am I.

doing? I don't have like I I don't have. a presence here because I'm not allowed. to be. Another theme is toxicity in the. book. I wanted to read you this. particular line. Okay. I prefer the. agonizing psychological abuse of this. trauma bond to the prosaic tedium of a. regular life. Mhm. Why do you think you. gravitate towards toxicity over. stability? Because stability sounds boring.

I get It does. And that's the truth. It sounds like it's not romantic. It. doesn't sound like it's passionate. Mhm. The literal definition of passion is to. suffer. And it doesn't it just sounds I I would. rather be. in something This is not to encourage. others to do this, but my personal. psychosis and issue is that I would. prefer to be in something dramatic and. toxic versus something.

stable. Keep in mind, I've never. experienced like truly stable. So, if I. were to honestly experience it, I would. probably have a lot of peace and would. accept it, but I've never had it. So, to. me the idea of it sounds very. boring. boring. I want to read part of. this heartbreaking poem that you wrote. because it's. [ __ ] heartbreaking. You say. there was a time where I had never heard.

a man call me stupid, pathetic, [ __ ]. [ __ ] [ __ ] idiot. And there was also a. time when I had never felt a man's hands. hit me, suffocate me, or throw me to the. ground. But now, if one of those things. hasn't happened by Wednesday, I consider. it a miracle. When I read that to you, how does it make you feel? I dissociate from the physical violence.

a lot. Even when I talk to my therapist, I have yet to be able to have like a. strong emotional reaction to that. Because I compartmentalized. that. And that sort of just jumped over. my my my logic my logical brain and went. right into my body. So, I need to. probably do a lot of like somatic. therapy to work on that. Yep. But I I'm not able to feel emotional. when I write about it or when I talk. about it. It's basically like describing.

a movie. Mhm. Um the gaslighting and the. name-calling and the mental emotional. abuse, I do get very emotional about. that. I I am very like present with. that. But how do I feel about it? I don't. know. Well, part of me feels like. exposed because I wrote this book with. with. things like that in it. And so, to hear. someone else read it, I'm like, "Okay, I. wrote that for everyone to read for all. of eternity." They can revisit that book. and I did it but I did it for a reason.

Yeah. Why did you do it? One for myself, I think because. obviously it was therapeutic to get it. out and to get it out in a way that's. different than to just talk to a. therapist and like the words float away. into nothingness. To put it into a book, I know that it'll find, even if it's. only one person, it'll find someone that. needs to read it and they will. experience some kind of healing or some.

kind of inspiration from it and. therefore that gave my pain a purpose. versus me just trying to heal privately. Um, it also just felt like a demon that. I needed to have exercised from my body. Like I needed to. I needed to get it out in this way. Do. you remember the first time that a man. hit you? Yes. I can't I don't know that I can tell. the story. I have to be so careful.

No, of course, of course. I guess I. could just ask like once something. happens more than once Mhm. there's a way that you can almost I. don't want to say like normalize it, but. you have you do. You acclimate to it, yeah. When it. happened the first time. do you remember your reaction and like. how you handled it and moved? Yeah, I fawned. That was my initial reaction, the. freeze fight Mhm. flight, fawn. Fawning.

is like it's a combination of freezing. and then also attempting to soothe the. other person. So, that was my initial reaction. And it. was very it was definitely shocking. Mhm. but like I said, I almost. immediately compartmentalized it and. went into the. like took on went into nurturing the. other person. to like calm the situation and. I don't know, I just I just took it on.

as my own burden right away instead of. feeling the trauma. Mhm. But I think that's like really relatable. and that's how [ __ ] up it is to be a. woman. Like we're trained to like make. men feel like you're it's okay. Like. make them feel comfortable. Also because. I think it's a survival mechanism. because if you can de-escalate a. situation with a man, you you don't know. how much farther that was going to go. So, our brain goes to It's like I was. talking to my therapist about this the. other day. She was like, "I call it like.

the [ __ ] effect. It's like when. you're about to get sexually abused or. something's about to happen, it's like. you can rationalize like, 'Okay, if I. just give him a [ __ ] that will stop. me from having to have sex with him, and. then people will shame you like, "You. gave him a Oh, so then but so you did do. It's like you don't know what's going to. happen. They could have a gun. They. could try to [ __ ] kill you." We We. know what men are capable of. And so, there's moments where it's just. survival. Again, it's such a privileged standpoint when. people would be like, "What do you mean. you soothed him?".

I know exactly what you mean. You. immediately go into survival mode of how. do I completely de-escalate the. situation? The poem you wrote called rape. Did anyone in your life know that you. had survived that type of sexual abuse. before you wrote this poem? Yeah. Not my parents or like my family, but. people that I've been with like I've. known. Yeah. Did your family reach out. to you once the book came out? No.

Interesting. Did that shock you? No. I'm so sorry. That's okay. I mean, that's. But that's telling of the relationship. Yeah, that's that perfectly reflects as. I would anticipate it, too. Yeah. We're. going to move on to your relationship a. little bit. Okay. Okay. Mr. MGK. Call Her Daddy is brought to you by. Shopify. Now is your time to build on a.

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lot of heavy topics, and I know you. clarified on multiple. um interviews you did like, "I'm not. just writing about one person. I'm. talking about my life experience." But, how did that book just like. impact your relationship in the moment? Did it open wounds? Did you have to have. a lot of conversations? Like, I can. imagine it was tough. Yeah, and because some of the poems are. about him, and they're obviously about. him. Like, "32-year-old Narcissist. Attempts to Quantify His Crimes" is very. is about him, and he knows it's about.

him. And. there are other ones like "Ghosts of. Christmas Future" obviously about him. Um but I also didn't really write. anything about him that he hasn't said. about himself in his own music. Uh-huh. However, that doesn't make it. any less sensitive for him to experience. me writing about it because obviously he. feels in control when he's telling his. own story or even like maybe he's able. to hide behind the music a little bit. even though he's saying all the same.

things. It felt. different in in this format. So. obviously he would have to be asked for. his experience, but it was not easy and. I think he was like really nervous and. and worried because there's a lot of. explosive content in the book obviously. and. there was some fear there and also I. mean. some of them are about him and are. savage. They are Megan. They definitely are.

They're. Go read the book everyone. I feel like. everyone has such like an opinion on. your guys relationships. You know you. got engaged and I think it was called. off then we don't know what's going on. with you like how would you describe. your relationship with MGK? Mhm. Um Mhm. I think. that what I've learned from being in. this relationship is that it's not for. public consumption. So I think. as of now I don't have a comment on like.

the status of the relationship per se. What I can say is that is what I refer. to as being my twin soul and there will. always be a tether to him no matter. what. I I can't say for sure what the. capacity will be, but I will always be. connected to him somehow. Beyond that I'm not willing to explain. But all those things you said were. accurate things that have occurred and I. could see them being confusing or.

interesting to people and them being. like. what's up? Yeah. I mean I yeah, I think. the reality is like reading your book I. was like holy [ __ ] This is. some of this is traumatizing. This is. scary. This is sad. This is. really relatable. Like I think and I. think that's what you just explained you. wanted to do with the book is like I. think a lot of women, which is. unfortunate and sad for us as women that.

a lot of people can be like, "Uh-huh, I've expe- experienced that and that and. that." And I think what's sad is like so. many people probably don't know how many. women have gone through that. How many. women have normalized getting hit or. getting verbally, physically, emotionally abused. Like it's. it's everywhere. It's one in three. women. Like it's so [ __ ] prevalent. and I think our culture likes to just. turn a blind eye and pretend it's not. happening. So like I appreciate you.

writing the book, but I agree. I think a. lot of people are like, "Y- you okay? Like are we still in this. relationship?" And that's for you to. decide. Like I don't think I think. you're right. It's like for no everyone. [ __ ] off. You're going to decide what. you're going to do. And also he gets to. write his [ __ ] music. Yeah. And I think you as an actor, it's not. like you get to be like, "Let's change. this role to be more like that like this. is a an expression for you that I bet. was like. healing in a way to be like, "Ugh, put it out and let it go.". Yeah. It also was written just from the.

like one. angle of my perspective. Meaning this. was me being like, "I'm writing this. from my anger Mhm. at all these men, all. these experiences that I have had. It's. not an objective view of my. roles in the relationship. Like I said, like I failed many times inside the. different relationships and was not a. flawless. Yeah. I I was not. a pure victim. Like I did plenty of.

things and and provoked plenty of. things. Not in terms of violence, but. like I provoked pain or issues inside. the relationship as well with my. behavior. But the book was not written. in a holistic way. It was written from. my anger and my pain needed to speak and. that's what the book is. Yeah. Okay. I have a couple more fun questions. Okay. First of all, cuz we're going to. transition and help the girlies out. Okay. How have you gotten to a place in your. life where you do not give a [ __ ] about.

what other people think and their. opinions? I have not gotten to that place in my. Oh, wait. Back in the day you did. No, no, no. No, no, we still care. No, I I I I guess like I said earlier, it is a thing of like I would never. change anything about myself to appease. someone like publicly. I would never do. that. I actually had to one time. during Brian was in a custody case with. his his child and sometimes a part of. those a part of the process is everybody.

has to do a psych evaluation. So all four adults had to go undergo. psychiatric evaluations and mine came. back and they took note of the fact that. I was one of the only people that had. never attempted to slant the test. because it's human nature to want your. best self to be seen. So when people are. being tested it's often that they will. not lie per se but mislead or like. present.

present a truth that isn't entirely. accurate out of wanting to be liked and. I don't have that function or that. mechanism. So I they took note of the. fact that that was completely absent. from my my psych evaluation but not in a. like sociopath way. but in a way. where I'm just not somebody who's going. to bend unless I I'm I'm only doing what. I believe in the end. Like that will. never change. But that doesn't mean that.

it doesn't hurt my feelings when people. spew venom or negativity or hatred. towards me. I'm very permeable actually. because I'm very sensitive. And yes, I've been wearing that armor, but that. armor is heavy. And at a certain point. in my life, I I was down to get some. blood on my blade and like go to war if. I needed to, but I'm tired now and it's. it's actually wearing on me a lot in. this particular moment for whatever. reason. Things are coming to a head for.

me and I'm not in a place where I don't. give a single [ __ ] I do get hurt. That. won't change who I am and how I am and. how I speak and how I proceed with my. life, but I do still feel the pain of. that. How do you as a mother handle. knowing people are like like going to. try to get at your kids through you and. knowing you? Like are you. paranoid at all with that? Yeah, I lose. a lot of sleep about that especially.

because at least one of them is I know. going to be. in the public. Probably all three of. them. They're like drop-dead gorgeous. kids and. I you know, they're both of their. parents are actors and in this industry. So it's likely that they're going to. have some type of public platform at a. at a certain point. I I worry about that. every day. to them about that? Not yet. My oldest. is 11 and my kids were not allowed they. weren't raised with screens and they. don't have iPads or anything like that. in my house or phones. Eventually, I.

can't keep that up forever. Eventually, that will happen. I'm trying. to delay it as long as possible, but. when they get a little bit older, it's. still too. early and it's also I don't want to put. the weight of my experience on them. Yeah. I want them to have their own. experience and I don't want to. pre-load it by being like. this is all the suffering that mommy's. been through. This is how the world. treats mommy. You You mommy's never been. loved. Mommy's always been bullied. Mommy's always Mommy doesn't belong. Like they don't need to feel that.

Yeah. So I haven't found the right way to talk. to them about that, but I will have to. Yeah. with certainty. And yes, I lose a lot of. sleep about that. Somebody should ask Brian that question. He's. He's watched me cry so many times. He's. always like, "Are you okay?" Because. every school meeting I'm just weeping. Like I'm always crying because I know. what's coming and I'm not able to live. in this moment because I know what's. ahead and I'm I'm not prepared. emotionally to have to do it. I can't do.

it. It's a lot. Yes. Okay. You're going to give the girls. you said there were fun questions. right here. Right here. Right here. Okay. You are funny, by the way. Thank you. We should do like a part two where we. only talk about funny [ __ ] And we just. let you go. Okay. I want to get your. take on a couple of scenarios, okay? What would you say to someone who and. then like it's a girl going through it, okay? This girl sees a hot guy at a bar, but. it's too nervous to go up to him and.

make the first move. What would you say. to her? It's not going to be worth it anyway. Meghan. It's not. You're like, "You're the same [ __ ]. that's getting [ __ ] [ __ ] in your. mouth." Like go home. not going to be worth it. Go home. It's not going to be good. Would you. ever go up and approach a guy? I can't. be bothered. It's not What do they give. you really? What do you get out of it really? I'm. sorry. Have you ever gotten a magical dick?

Have you ever been. gotten a sacred [ __ ] down where. you're like a better human afterwards? Have you? Because if you have, please. tell Please tell me. But in my. experience, that's not what happens and. it's not worth. the drama that they bring and they. cause. It's not worth it. Your dick. needs to be in direct proportion to the. drama that you cause. And if it's not, then you need to [ __ ].

the [ __ ] off. Or maybe they be so little. or they be huge. There would be no like. medium boyfriend size dicks anymore. Right. Wait, how did you meet Colson? Did he go up to you? Oh, no. Oh, no. No. For the audience, I did not connect those things. So, I. just want to make sure that. Okay. that's not an ongoing continuation of. the sentence. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But how did you meet him? Did you. go up to him? I met him on set and we were in a scene.

together. Right. Right. The music video. No. No. No. It was before that. We were doing a. movie that will forever be upset that. we're we met on the set of that movie, but we were doing a scene and um. I had seen his picture before he showed. up and I knew just from his picture. I. was like, [ __ ] I recognize that person. and then I looked in his eyes and I was. like, "Oh, yeah. It's you. I've known. you for thousands of years." So, we were. in a situation where it wasn't really. about one person coming up to the other. Got it. He's very shy and he's he'll tell you.

he's very awkward as well. So, he's not. somebody who like picks up girls. He's. just gorgeous and a famous musician, so. he gets them easily, but if if he was. not famous, he would be struggling. because he's not. he's not good at that. He isn't. He's a. brilliant musician. He's not good at. picking up girls or conversation. Are. you good at it? I would say. that's so subjective.

Mhm. But no, I don't think I'm good at. it because I don't like to I don't. flirt. I see how girls flirt. I don't. like I can't be bothered to do that. I also ask them questions they've never. been asked before that they don't want. to answer like. Like what? Like the questions you're asking me and. [ __ ] we're talking about now where I'm. like, "What's your deepest mother. wound?" Like, no. no guy likes to talk about that [ __ ]. especially right away when they don't. know you. Right, you're like, "Let's talk about. what happened. What happened in the. childhood?" They're like, "Huh?". Yeah, what are you most traumatized by?

What's your weirdest fetish? What's your. like Yeah, they don't they don't like to. feel exposed. So, I'm not a good You're. not a good I'm not good at that. Cuz. they just want you to be pretty and. really dumb, and I don't like to play. that game. I agree. What if a girl keeps comparing. herself to her best friend? How do you. stop comparing yourself to women? That's a great question. I don't know that I've ever been in that. You mean it from like a standpoint of. jealousy, comparing to or and more of.

like an envy? Because there's so many. it could have a venomous element or it. could just be like. "Wow, I'm really proud of my best. friend. I wish I could get my [ __ ]. together and be like that." There's. different aspects to it. One, I think is. not necessarily unhealthy to be inspired. by your friend and to. take notes and want to move in that. direction, but if it's unhealthy and. it's toxic, I don't know that I have. great. advice. Like, you have to start working.

on yourself and because you have. insecurities and things that. you you need to heal and. probably desires that need to be. satiated and all of these other things. that that you need to work on because. jealousy will always be there with your. friend or with. just all others. Socks. Okay, what if a. girl is hung up on a guy who ghosted her. after a date? What do we do, Megan? I don't know. I can't be friends with. that person.

You can't be friends with the girl? No. No, what do you mean? Is that rude? I can't be friends with that person. She's upset after she went on a date. with a guy one time and he ghosted her. and she still is obsessing over him? Yes. You can't be friends with her. I can't do that. That wasn't the question. You're like I cannot be FRIENDS WITH.

HER. OH MY GOD, I'M PEEING. OKAY, WE'RE not. friends with her. Okay, what about a. girl that's too afraid to tell her. partner that she's never had an orgasm? Well, you got to just you got to do. that. You got to you got to say that. That's that is. I feel like all of us have been in that. position at one time or another. That is not worth living like that. though. You cannot.

What is the fear that he's going to feel. so insecure or so overwhelmed? How would. you do it? Is the question specifically. I've never had an orgasm with you or. I've never had an orgasm with you? That's a different question. I think how long has it been? I'm making this up. Well, if it's been a week versus 10. years, that's a different conversation. like a year. Ooh, that's a long time because now. you're a liar.

That's That's a long time to keep up. that lie. Cuz now you're a [ __ ] liar, you [ __ ]. No, but now you have to answer for Well, why have you been lying for a year? Like. don't let it get to that point. I. understand the fear of being intimidated. or worrying or whatever. You can't live. like that. You have to understand that. A, orgasm, if he's entitled to an. orgasm, you are entitled to an orgasm. The end. So, don't let anything any kind. of fear talk you out of being able to.

speak that truth. This is your body and. orgasms actually to women very healthy. It's a vitamin, and you have to. prioritize that. So, don't be afraid. And if he has a problem with that, he is. not for you, and I promise you the dick. wasn't that good anyway. Obviously, because you're not coming. Amen. Okay, Megan, last question. What. do you think this next chapter of your. life will look like for you? I feel like. you're about to disappear. This is the. last we ever saw Megan Fox. I am on like.

the cliff of that. I don't I don't know. I'm either going to really have some. kind of like breakthrough where I do. transcend into some like blissful higher. level of consciousness or find some kind. of purpose being in service to people, or I will disappear again. I feel like I. handled that wrong the first time. though, and I regret some of those years. that I lost. So, I don't think I'll. repeat that. However, I am on the. precipice of what am I about to do, and.

I don't know. Well, we'll be looking for you. Megan. Fox, thank you so much for calling me on. Call Her Daddy. This was overdue, and it. was perfect. Thank you. Thank you for. staying up so late. It's midnight. Let's go. We did it.

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