Maria Georgas: I Made Out with My Boyfriend’s Mistress

What is up, Daddy gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. >> Maria Georges, welcome to Call Her. Daddy. >> I am so excited to be here. I love you. so. Okay. I love you. >> I love you. I'm so excited. I I can't. believe we're finally doing this. First. of all, this has been a long time. coming, which we will tell the Daddy. Gang all about. But the entire world. fell in love with you when you went on.

the season of The Bachelor. And ever. since it ended, I feel like everyone has. quite literally just been waiting. patiently for you to speak. >> And you are finally here. >> Yes. So, I definitely needed the time to. just be on my own, but if I was going to. speak, I was going to speak here with. you today on Color Daddy. And I it was a. long time coming, but I'm here now and. I'm ready. >> Okay. I have so many questions, so let's. just get into it. >> Okay, before you continue, this is.

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Lean into your mischievous side with. Sour Patch Kids. Okay. Okay. She's got her little unwell. outfit on. >> Oh, I'm feeling so myself right now. You. have no idea. >> Wait, really? >> Oh my god. This is me to my core. Okay. But every single outfit, you slayed the. season. Like for anyone that didn't. watch this season, Maria on The. Bachelor. >> I don't know if I've ever seen someone. come with like such good outfits and I. feel like I saw that all online. How did. you even pack for this [ __ ] season?

>> Oh my god, it was so last minute. You. guys have no idea. So I I always wanted. to be on the show. I had dreams about. it. I was like, I'm going to be on the. show one day. So, I remember like I. would always buy things in hopes of I. swear to God. I'm not even kidding. And. so, when I actually got like I was like. fully in the running, they're like, "Okay, you're like in it." Um, but I was. never getting a solid yes. I was like. waiting, waiting, waiting. 3 days prior. They're like, "Pack your bags. You're.

coming. You need this, this, and this.". I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] I had three days. to pack.". >> Why did you always want to be on The. Bachelor? >> I love the show. Okay. I love the show. I was such a huge fan and um I had. friends on the show and they did. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Wait, I feel like that's tea. >> Well, I mean I don't know how much I. want to say. I feel like there's been, you know, people have talked about it. and I'm sure people know who, but yeah, I've had people that have been on the. show that have always said that like I. see you on it and yeah, and so I was.

like I'm going to apply. So, you've. romant. you've like romantically. dabbled with people on the show. >> I wouldn't say romantic, but obviously. there was like. >> um. I don't know what you want to call it, whatever you want to call it. It was. just like a good thing going and yeah, and I just remember talking to him about. it and he was like, "I can totally see.". You know what he said to me? Actually, >> should I be asking you like who you're. talking about? >> No, you shouldn't. [laughter].

>> Do you want me to say it? I think I have. to ask. >> Well, I mean, I think it's been fairly. obvious and I honestly I'm so over the. rumors and stuff like that. So, Nick. obvious Oh, [ __ ] But is this bad? Cuz. he's like totally married. >> No, I think that's it's not you're. saying you're like in love with this. person. >> Yeah. Nothing has ever happened between. Nick and I, but like it's always been. like a friendship. >> Okay. But but this No, no, I think this. is fine to say. Nick is one of the. biggest people from the franchise. And. the fact that like you had like a little. thing with him back in the day. Yeah.

But you never hooked up. No, you just. had like a flirtatious banter. >> Literally, that is all like he helped me. through breakups. Like he was a good. friend to me at points and it was great. But I remember and I and I never really. understood it until actually being on. the show. He had said to me, he's like, "I can see you being the villain." He's. like, "You're going to go on, you're. going to be the villain." And I I was. like, "Why? Why me?" Like I would never. go with the intention of becoming a. villain. I didn't go in there trying to. piss people off. But I remember him. saying, he's like, "People are going to.

come after you no matter what. I can. just see it. You're going to be the. villain." And it was just funny because. after I finished filming, there was. rumors about me being a villain. I'm. like, "But I wasn't. I know what. happened." Well, I feel like just to sum. it up again for anyone that didn't. watch, like I feel like people tried. really really really really. [ __ ] hard to make you the villain and. then everyone in America watching it was. like no like no she's not the villain. actually. Like these girls that are. basically gaslighting Maria are the.

villain. Okay, let's go back to the. beginning. I love how you were just like. dropping bombs left and right. Okay, but. I think the I think it's fine to say the. Nick Val thing. I think he's like. happily married now and that's great. >> Yeah. And I think and I just want. everyone to know that like there's no. animosity between between us. Like I. think we have always been friends. obviously whatever. But um yeah, he's. always been great to me and like I. respect his relationship. I respect. where he is is now. I'm happy to see him. grow. Um but yeah, to say that we didn't. have a past that would be a lie. So,

like I just hate this like it's been all. over Reddit and I'm just want people to. know that like it's nothing serious, but. also we've respected each other along. the way and I'm happy where he's at now. and I I congratulate him. >> Well, I was going to say I also think. the internet is too smart nowadays where. it's like if you were connected to. anyone in Bachelor Nation as they say. >> Exactly. So, I think it'd be like you'd. be like remiss to not bring it up. because then everyone would be like. you're a liar, >> right? And I have nothing to hide. Like. I go through life where I feel like I.

have You want to ask me questions? I. want to answer. No. Really? Can you. tell? >> I can tell. >> Yeah. So I'm like, you know what? Like. at the end of the day, I'm like, I. rather speak on it than people build or. create stories out of nothing. >> There's nothing to talk about there. >> Amazing. >> Literally. >> So, let's talk about your season. You. are one of the most popular, I would. say, Bachelor contestants in the history. of ever. and you just like brought this. energy to it, this relatability. You. were normal. I think people could be.

like see themselves being friends with. you. You're a girls girl. Like it was. great vibes. How did you feel about all. this attention? >> Oh my god. First of all, thank you for. saying that. Like that meant a lot. because I was actually talking this. talking about this with my friends. Like. when I had first come back home, I had. to sit my family down to let them know. like what what kind of like [ __ ]. stupidity I went through in the house. I. did not know how it was going to like. play out and like how people were going. to perceive me because in the house I. felt like I was so wrongfully um accused.

of things and people were just like. >> taking me the wrong way and so I didn't. know how things were going to play out. The fact that it was an honest edit I. can say and like showed exactly who I am. and I said to myself I'm like if I'm. going to do this I'm going to do this. like exactly who I am. I'm not going on. there with some alter ego like, "No, no, no. I'm gonna when my friends and family. are going to watch, they're gonna be. like, that's my Maria.". >> Prior to this show, >> Yeah. >> Were you someone who was used to a lot. of drama in your life?

>> The And I talked about this on the show. to Joey. I was like, the last thing I. thought I was going to have problems. with were the girls. I thought I was. going to be like the I thought the only. problem I would have is if I like him or. not or if we can really see each other. like becoming something, right? And so. when that was my biggest concern in the. house, I was like, "Oh my god, I maybe. that guy was right. Maybe maybe it's. like in in weight." Okay, you want to. hear something? Actually, I actually. actually have something to say. >> Yes. >> This is actually kind of [ __ ] up.

>> Okay, >> so Sydney, you know Sydney? >> No. >> So in the house? >> Oh, the one that was the year. >> So funny enough, no actually side note, I don't know if you want to keep this. in, but this is actually kind of like. concerned me at one point. So, when it. first started like airing, I remember. someone sent me a photo of Nick and. Sydney together. They were all friends. because Sydney's friends with um Ashley. I And Nick's close with Ashley and. Ashley's close with Sydney and they were. all in a photo together. I'm like, "Was. this all [sighs] planned?" No, I'm not.

kidding. Besides all this right now, I'm. like straight shooter to you right now. Part of me was like, "Was this all. planned?" Because I was like, "I did. I. knew I was innocent." Like I knew I was. innocent. Hand to God. So when this all. started happening and then imagine. dealing with that in the house and then. coming out and seeing that she's friends. with Nick, I was like, >> "Right, because Nick had told you. >> there's something conspiring here.". >> Okay. So you walk someone through that. maybe didn't watch the show. You're. basically saying you're seeing Nick Val.

like. >> tell you you're going to potentially be. the villain. Then you're seeing Nick. Vial be friends with the girl that. attacked you the whole season. Okay, keep this [ __ ] in because you know what? I'm not kidding. I was This was my exact. thought process. I was like, there's. something weird about all this because. it was too close to this. Like, it was. too close to home. I was like, this what. was said and now this and this. Cuz if. there was a if, guys, if there was a. moment in the house where I can say, okay, I deserve that. I would say I.

would not even begin to think about. this, but I was so innocent. To someone. that has no idea what the [ __ ] we're. talking about and has not watched the. season of the Bachelor. >> Yeah. >> You have these two specific women, I. would say. >> Three. >> Three. Okay. Three women that were like. >> hellbent on crucifying you. >> Oh, yeah. >> Can you give like a brief synopsis of. like what they were trying to like. basically kill you for? >> Yeah. So, um there's a point in time.

where we see Medina. She was one of the. older girls. I don't even like to say. older. Here we go, the age thing. But. she she had mentioned that she felt. insecure about her age. >> and um that she was losing time and she. thought, you know, it was Joey maybe. might have not been giving her enough. attention because of her age. >> Um and I stayed silent during that. conversation. She kind of like addressed. the room about it. And then why did I. say and I don't know. Um so then we were. outside and kind of we have breaks you.

know throughout the day but we're always. being recorded and I knew that. So. despite having a break, I know like. we're being recorded, but again, I was. in the moment with my friend and we were. kind of like um going through what was. like said or during that moment, we were. kind of just like what's the word? Re. >> we're just like recapping what. >> recapping. Thank you very much that. moment. And all I said to her was like, I don't get why Medina would say that. because. >> like I'm in her age group and I'm just. saying like she's she's a beautiful. woman. like literally so beautiful where.

I was like I couldn't even fathom the. idea that she was thinking that it had. something to do with her age why Joey's. not giving her attention. I'm like. you're so beautiful. Own it. Like you. have so much going for you. You have the. age is the last thing you should worry. about. But I wasn't saying that to. Medina. I was saying that to my friend. as we were recapping the night. >> Um and that's why I was like I want to. preface by saying like if Medina had. come to me and said to me, Maria, I feel. insecure my age. I know you're like one. of the older girls in the house too. Like this is how I feel. would never. say, "Onay, you're hot." Like, I would. be like, "No, let's talk about it. This.

is how you feel. I'm here for you." You. know? So, obviously, I was saying what I. was saying to my friend behind closed. doors, and I was being overheard by. Sydney. >> And instead of a coming up to me to be. like, "Hey, are you talking about. Medina?" Cuz she's my girl. Instead of. like either coming up to me or talking. to me oneon-one to be like, "Hey, I. might have heard this, but I don't. know." it. She started this entire thing. on something she might have heard. >> So that's where it all kind of started. though. And I think like what we can.

acknowledge for women is like age is. such a sensitive thing just because. everyone makes us feel like when you hit. 30 it's like ooh the the clock is. ticking and so I empathize with what she. was saying. And then I also agree with. what you were saying of like oh my god. girl like don't even [ __ ] worry. you're hot you're beautiful. You're. young. Like 30 is young. >> Yeah. >> 31 is young. 40 is young. Like we have to like. retrain our brains to look at like women. and age in a complete different way. But. I think on the show it brought up a.

really interesting conversation that you. were almost villainized for like. [ __ ] on this woman for her age. And. that was not what you were saying. >> Absolutely. And like everything you said. was absolutely right. And for me I'm. like I can get insecure about my age too. 100%. And I have felt insecure about it. But going into the Bachelor knowing that. there's that, you know, sometimes they. cast 23 year olds and stuff like that, I. knew going into it where I was like, I. probably am going to be the oldest one. in the house. >> So, I was trying to think posit. positively so that like I didn't get.

into that mindset. So, >> I thought in ways like I was trying in. in ways when I was talking to my friend. about it, I was trying to encourage. myself too cuz like. >> hearing her talk about that, you don't. think that struck a chord with me? I was. like, [ __ ] maybe like cuz I am a year. older than him, maybe that is weird. I. don't know. I started like thinking I. was like, "No, no, like we're going to. twist it. No, we're hot. We're. confident. Let's do this." And I was. just having a talk with my girlfriend. I. didn't think it was going to become a. thing. I I wasn't trying to do this in. front of a room. Like I would have been. way more sensitive. Way more like,

>> you know? Yeah. You were almost like. debriefing something that clearly. related to Cuz How old is she? >> She's 31. >> Okay. She's 31. And how old are you? >> 29. >> Okay. I'm 29. Same age. I get what you're saying in the house. and you immediately saw her freaking out. and getting insecure that you were like, "Oh my god, like I [ __ ] beautiful. Let's go. Let's just turn this into a. positive right now because it's so, you. know, in the house you're so isolated. and you I can see why she was feeling. those things." But I I kind of wanted to.

like cuz imagine if I just sat there and. was like, "Yeah, we are. We should just. like peace out right now, us old [ __ ]. Like, let's let's just get the [ __ ] out. of here.". But I was trying to just like and again. if she had come to me personally the. conversation would have been different. >> It was just in the moment with my friend. I was just like yeah. >> And so this kind of begins this feud. between you and this girl Sydney where. she like has it out for you. She's. literally saying you're like the devil. >> Oh yeah. It was funny. I brought devil. ears cuz I knew we were going to be.

filming during Halloween and I wore the. devil ears like for a week straight. They cut that out so maybe don't talk. about that. But like I loved it. I was. like, cuz they told me, they're like, yeah, you know, she sees you as a devil. I'm like, >> amazing. >> And in parts I was like, wait, but what? Like, I was questioning myself. >> Why do you think this girl had it out. for you? Like, you said you barely got. into drama your whole life with women. Like, your biggest concern was like, am. I going to even like Joey? Like, will I. even get along with him? What do you. think, if you had to pinpoint it, brought it on this season?

>> Yeah. So I because now getting to know. her outside of this, she's an amazing. woman and I and I honestly can say that. in that moment, she really truly thought. she was going to bat for her friend. >> Um, and like again, it's so weird to say. like these girls become our best. friends, but when you're in that. environment, you become very close to. people and that's how it feels, right? So I truly think that she was feeling. she was going to bat for her friend. She. was that ride or die friend. she wasn't.

going to like let anything slide um with. the best intentions just wrongly guided. I don't really know why because I guys. when I tell you, you know, she had. apologized to me there and then when we. I was like, "Listen, you overheard. something. You took it out of context. It wasn't meant maliciously. Um, next. time, you know, come to me." She's like, "Absolutely." We cheersed. >> The next day we had that group date. where we were um doing the talent show. >> and she hugged me before the group date.

and she was like, "Maria, I just want to. say again, I'm sorry for taking. something out of context. It wasn't. shown. We never even got to talk about. this." And so I thought I was like, "Wow, okay, you know what?" And I said. to her that day, I go, "Listen, I'm good. to hug you hug it out and like we're. good, but just you scare me a little bit. because we were so good up until the. point where you're starting [ __ ] with me. where I'm like, where is this coming. from?" So we hugged it out, we were. good. Later on that night is when she. was like, "I feel bullied by you. You. hugged me earlier that day." It was. like, guys, when I say it was crazy, it.

was crazy. But again, because I know she. is a good person deep down, I think that. again in this environment, it just. brought out the worst. >> Well, cuz I was going to say like I I. didn't know you guys were close now, which is. >> we're not close, but we're good. >> You're good. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Cuz I was going to say I thought I. didn't know if you guys were like. friends and I'm like that's kind of. crazy to go from someone being like. you're bullying me like the what we. watched on TV. I was like, "This girl is.

like losing her mind on national TV and. it's like everywhere you would go, she. would turn to you and just start like. going after you." And it felt very. targeted. >> Yeah. It got to points where she would. acknowledge that like I can't even be in. a room with Maria cuz I feel she's going. to attack me and there's been so many. scenes of us in a room and I'm like, >> "Leave me alone.". >> What? So like I didn't understand. I and. to this day like you know her and I. didn't get to really talk about what. exactly it was that made her say those.

things about me cuz I could I like even. thinking about putting myself in her. head. I could never say that about. someone if I knew that it was so untrue. >> Well, I think what was interesting too. and I liked reading the internet during. your season because I thought that women. had really interesting takes about you. Like I remember watching and so many. women were like. >> I feel like half of these girls in the. house are having their first buy. experience because everyone is falling. in love with Maria and everyone's like. do I like her more than Joey? I think. there was also a lot of jealousy. Like.

you exude confidence. You like walked in. every room. You looked so [ __ ] hot. You looked insane in your outfits. You. have a great personality and you just. led with confidence. And I think in. those environments, I can imagine if. women are seeing one woman lead with. just like no doubts or fears, you're. going to be like, "Fuck you. I wish I. was like that." And I personally felt. like a lot of it was driven by jealousy, which sucks, but I think is sadly. relatable. If you could go back, is. there anything you would have handled.

differently in all the drama? >> Well, I just want to say something. first. So before going into the house, I. had read something and it was like some. book and it was called you're just not. that you're there's what it was it was. like you're not that great or something. like that and it just acknow but wait. >> what a great book. >> I no but you know what the the the the. meaning behind it meant something to me. and it was just like acknowledging the. fact that you're not that great and like. I never no wait just wait I don't ever. think of myself as like like when you. say like like it's weird to me even.

believing when someone's like, "Oh, someone's jealous of you." Like, I don't. look at things like that. Like, I went. into this Bachelor world being like, "I'm not going to be the prettiest girl. in the room. I'm not going to be the. best dress. I'm not going to be the most. like exciting to look at or be with.". Like, I just said, "I'm going to be. myself and if it works, it works." Like, I was so self-aware going into it. So, it's funny that like people see it as. like confidence and people see it as. like, "Oh, girls are jealous of you.". It's like I genuinely went in there.

being like I'm going to be supportive of. everyone around, but I'm not also not. going to think I'm that great. Like. >> I love this. Now I love this message. At. first I was like, "Where are we going. with this?" Like I [ __ ] suck. I'm a. piece of [ __ ] I'm not. >> But like just acknowledging that like. you know like just knowing who you are. Like I'm not I'm not overly confident in. that way where I'm like I'm the [ __ ]. I've never thought that way about. myself. Um I thought all the women were. especially night one going into that. house. I was like, there are so many. beautiful women around me that I was.

like, I'm just gonna be myself, have. fun, and then if it works, it works. And. it did. And like, so when girls came. after me and being like, oh, she like. people are seeing it as like, oh, you. were so confident and that's why. I'm. like, >> oh my god. I was like, I ne never once. did I think I was the prettiest in the. room. Never once did I think I was the. best dress. That's why after it aired. and hearing that like everyone loved my. outfits and like everyone thought I was. so conf I was like damn. >> I love everything you just said and I. truly believe though that's where it is.

confidence what you're talking about and. it's I think it's enviable and I think. if if anyone takes anything from this. episode it's that it's like you deciding. I can't be what I'm not. I'm going to be. myself. I I'm me. I look how I look. I. act how I act and like I'm going to. present as I am and if he likes it and. they like it great. If not who gives a. [ __ ] First I do want to talk a little. bit about your personal life because I. think you you came into this Bachelor. world and everyone was like who is this. firecracker? Like who is this girl and.

where did she came from? Who is Maria? >> Yeah. >> Have you ever been in love before? >> I've obviously Okay. Okay. I had a. couple boyfriends. I'm going to say two. [laughter]. >> Two boyfriends. >> I'm going to tell you exactly the. number. Yeah. I I don't have that much. experience. Um I always like when I'm. with someone, I feel loving feelings, but like to like when you're out of it, you kind of think back and you're like, "Wait, was I even in love?" I don't. know. I don't think so. Um because I.

want to believe when I am, I know it's. going to be my person kind of thing. I. had loving feelings for everyone that. I've ever been with. >> Yep. Yeah. I think that makes a lot of. sense. I think that No, I think I think. that answers it. I think you would know. if you had been in love, >> right? You would think. >> You would know. Trust me. >> That's what I'm thinking. >> You would know. Okay. What has been your. longest relationship? >> Oh, [ __ ] You're going to call me right. out. Um, >> literally my my first boyfriend was like. eight months, but I lived with him for. three, so it felt like a [ __ ]. century. But, um,

>> what? >> Okay, maybe. No, I don't know. >> Okay, listen. I have never had anything. longterm. I'm a I'm a problem. >> No, [laughter] no, >> I'm the problem. >> Wait, you live with him for three months. towards the end of the eight months and. then is that what ended it? >> The beginning? >> You be Wait, hold on, >> wait, wait, hold [laughter] on, hold on, hold on. You. >> It's been so long. It was like seven. years ago. [ __ ]. >> you dated a guy for eight months. You. lived with him for three, >> but how did you start living together,

then stay together, but not live. together? Walk me through this. >> Okay, hold on. Let me think. It was so. long ago, guys. It was like 7 years ago. Um, we dated and hit it off right away. Okay. >> And he was living alone. I was living. with my family and. >> he was like, "I want to be with you all. the time, so come sleep at my house.". And then it turned into me ended up. moving like ending up moving in with. him. Does that make sense? >> And then how did you move out? >> Um, he cheated on me. >> Wait. And then you [laughter] wait,

>> [ __ ] What do you think? You cheat on me. Wait, but make this. make sense. >> 8 months dating. First three months. you're living together. >> He then cheats. >> Mhm. >> You stay. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Cheating happens towards the end, honey. >> Okay. Okay. So, then why did you move. out? It was just. >> because he cheated on me. >> Oh, okay. Okay. You got your timeline. mixed up. You said you lived together in. the first three months. >> Uh-huh. Okay. Wait. Maybe I'm confused. >> YOUR DOES NOT MATTER.

>> Let me let me let me backtrack. Eight. months together. >> Eight months together. Living with him. Okay. So, not I didn't live with him. right away. You're right. [laughter]. >> Okay. >> You caught me. >> I know more about your life than you. know. >> Okay. So, he cheats. How did you find. out he cheated? >> Oh, [ __ ]. >> No. Tell me everything. >> Oh my god. I I'm a Virgo. Do you know. what Virgos are like? >> No. Tell me more. >> I'm an FBI agent. Oh. >> Like without being an FBI FBI agent. Yeah. >> Um so basically, so because I was living. with him, >> right? >> Um at the time. Anyways, so um he was in.

New York with his family. I'll never. forget this. This is actually kind of. [ __ ] up, >> but it's okay. You know what? Him and I, we laugh about this cuz he found he he's. like, "I hope you know I know I knew. what you did the entire time. We talked. about it. Listen, it's better to just. laugh it off now, but it wasn't a. laughing moment at the time, but we can. laugh about it now." Anyways, so he was. in New York with his dad and then um he. was like, "Yeah, so I was staying at his. place." Stupid idiot. Anyways, so I'm. with I have all my friends over and I.

remember I was in LA and then Vegas for. a wedding. I did like a week trip and he. was so Oh my god, Nick plays into this. because he hated Nick and Nick hated. him. [ __ ] that guy though because he. cheated on me. But it's fine. Um, so, okay, let me get back on track. Hold on. Okay, so I um, so I had gone on that. trip and he was already questioning me. being on that trip being like, "You're. going there to see him?" Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, "Bitch, I'm going to a. [ __ ] wedding. like what is your. issue? And we're spending a couple more. nights in LA after after Vegas. I lied.

We went to Vegas first and then we did. the wedding in LA. Okay, there it is. It's come on, seven years. I haven't. talked about this [ __ ] in ever. Great. >> Um and so he was already upset with the. whole trip. I get back. We're good. >> He goes to New York. I stay at his place. and I invite my friends over. I had this. weird feeling cuz the last couple nights. in LA, he was kind of like quiet, like. wasn't really speaking to me. I'm like, "Bitch, you're my boyfriend. Where the. where the fuck?" Anyways, no, not like. that. I'm very sweet. I'm just. >> I get what you're saying. When a.

boyfriend is quiet, >> you know what the you're checking in on. me and then all of a sudden you're quiet. for the next couple days. What the. hell's going on? So, I remember being. like, "Okay, so I I I know." I kept that. in my notes. I was like, "Okay, so this. time, this time he was kind of weird. >> sketch." So, I get to his place. I'm. staying. He leaves. I go to the front. desk. This is actually kind of smart. Girls, pay attention. So, I go to the. front desk. I'm like, "Oh my god, I left. for my trip, but I as I was waiting for. my Uber um or whatever I was waiting, I. don't know what I said." I'm like, "I.

left my purse on the couch." So, right. outside of his place, there's a like a. communal area and there was a couch and. I was like, "I left my purse there and I. can't find my purse." I'm like, "I need. you to like I was sitting here between. this time and this time." And I told him. the times where I felt like he was being. off. >> So, he So, the poor front desk man. And. by the way, man, I never outed you. Even. though when you knew I knew what he knew. what I was doing in that m I'll explain, but I never outed him. Never to my ex, but now I'm outing you, but it's okay. You're probably not even working there. anymore. Um, so so I I told him I'm.

like, "From this time, I remember I was. sitting there blah blah. I don't know. where this purse went and it's like. expensive purse. I need to know where it. is." So he's go he turns the the [ __ ]. screen to me and he's going through the. times and I and I told he's so he's a. little it's fine. I told him between I. think I said from 11:00 p.m. till 3:00. a.m. I'm like I don't know if you have. to check to see if my purse was there. and if someone took it. So he's showing. me. Okay. And I had my girlfriend there. I'll never forget. She [ __ ] screwed.

it up. I was like game face. I was like, "Show me the [ __ ] cameras." So I was. looking for my purse. All of a sudden, guys, I I kid you not. 3:20. I remember. the time. 3 It was like something 3:00. a.m. 3:20. I don't want to say that. I. remember the time. That's kind of weird, but it's fine. Um, a [ __ ] [ __ ] shows. up to his door. >> No. >> 3 something a.m. And then I'm going like. this. This is This is me. I'm like this. >> I keep my mouth shut. My friend goes and. then he So now the front desk guy sees. that there's another girl that ain't me.

showing up at this time. And then as. soon as she [ __ ] gasps like outing. me, he turns the camera. He's like, "I I. can't be doing this. I I'm sorry. I I I. was like I was like, "No, no, no, no. Don't don't worry." And he in that. moment knew that I that he knew that. what I was trying to do and and he knew. that now he outed my boyfriend for. having a girl show up at his place at. 3:00 a.m. while I was gone. But in that. moment I went, "No, no [ __ ] way." And. so it gets worse. So I kept my mouth. shut. >> You didn't say anything. >> No, of course I. >> poor front desk man.

>> I No, I never outed him to until this. day. I'm so sorry, sir. But um to this. day, never outed him. Never outed him. I. go back in. I You know, actually, it's. kind of funny. And I went for a walk. I. played some music. I pretended I was. like in a music video like sad. Cried. I. don't know. I don't know what I did. I. did some like weird [ __ ] But then I. went back and then so days later he. comes back. We're good. He throws a. party. Okay. Okay guys, listen to this. It gets [ __ ]. >> So he throws a party. Oh my god. Poor. guy. He's probably like going to watch. this and be like, "Listen, at the end of. the day, don't cheat on your girlfriend.

cuz one day she's going to live to tell. the tale. >> She's going to live to tell the [ __ ]. tale. So don't cheat on your. girlfriend." Um, anyways, so he throws a. party, family, friends, and remember I. saw that [ __ ] I saw her. Oh, you're. going to you're going to wait for the. twist at [laughter] the end. So, I saw. her. So, I I I knew how she looked. He. throws a party, fans, family, and. friends at his restaurant. He saw in a. restaurant. Oops. Cut that out cuz I'll. be very obvious. Okay, who Let's be. real. I only had one [ __ ] X and. everyone knows. It's fine. But cut it. out, maybe. I don't know. Keep it in. Do. whatever you want. Um, so so he throws a.

party, family and friends. There's a. separate table of like randoms that I. don't know who shows up. She does. But I. keep myself I keep my mouth shut. I see. him go over to her, hug her, kiss her. So I go, "Perfect. That's my in." So he. comes back. I'm like, "Who who's that. girl that you kiss on the cheek?" Like. like who's that? It's like, "Oh, she's. just a friend. Like d was just saying. hi." I'm like, "Okay, that was a little. like a little much to say hi to a. friend, right?" So I'm watching her, watching her. So later on that night, I. was like, "Fuck it. I'm done. I'm done. I'm so out." Like the fact that he's now.

bringing this girl around me. That's the. most [ __ ] up part. Wait. And how long. had you waited to like how long is this. between you see a week you saw the video. footage and now you're at the party? >> Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't long. I just. didn't know how I was going to like like. do it, but I was out at. >> No, but that's like that's mentally. [ __ ] to put your [ __ ] mistress in. the same room with your girl. >> I actually have more tea. >> Oh my god. It just keeps flowing. >> Oh [ __ ] So basically, cuz when he was. showing me the cameras, I saw a bunch of. guys go in first, all his friends. And.

then she showed up like hours later at. like 3:00 a.m. But they were like I. didn't see the friends leave. So I was. in my head I was like, "Okay, maybe this. might not be what I think it is and like. he's already thinking I'm seeing Nick.". And so there was so many things where I. was like, "Okay, I can't overthink.". Because if you're looking at it just. based on like what you like how it. looks, I want to know proof. But. anyways, but cut that out. No, make him. look bad. It's fine. >> No, no, BUT I GET BUT OKAY, BUT. >> I WAS IN MY HEAD I was kind of like, "Fuck, maybe maybe not.". >> You're rationalizing which I get. I'm not cheating on you with Nick. I'm.

not seeing Nick. I'm literally going to. a wedding. But he's like, I know you. have a past with him, blah blah blah. Then he starts ask acting sketchy. And. in your mind, you're like, is he making. this decision because he thinks I was. being shady with Nick when I wasn't? And. then all of a sudden, you see her at. 3:00 a.m. And then your brain. rationalizes, even though you goddamn. know well what he was doing. >> Showing up at 3:00 a.m. by herself. >> Maybe she's there for the after party. Oh, we know what the afterparty was, >> right? Yeah. His. >> his peepee. >> His peepee and her [ __ ] punani. Yeah, 100%. Anyway, so I saw her there and I.

again I didn't say anything, whatever. And then we got back to the house and. I'm like who's that girl? And he he. would just kept being like she was a. friend. She's a friend. I'm like so then. why? And I and I laid it all out there. I was like why did she show up at your. house at this time this date in a red. dress? I was like saying it all and he. to this day to this day we'll say he. nothing ever happened but want to hear. some funny [ __ ]. >> please. >> So as a Virgo right we're very thorough. So I need to get to the nitty-gritty. I. need to know. I was never going to get. my answer from him, you know. So I Okay,

so I I dance, okay? I take heel classes. and I do all that. So I met a girlfriend. there and she was going out one night. and she texted me. She's like, "Come. meet me." I go, "Who you at with?" She. sends me a photo. She's with that girl. >> No. >> So I go, "Perfect. Oh, just wait." So. I'm like, "Perfect. I'm going to meet. this girl." But again, I wasn't going to. go meet her with the intentions to be. confrontational. Like I was just going. to see who this girl is. is I want to. meet you. I want to look you dead in the. eyes. You know me. I don't know you. You. don't know that I know you, but I know. you. Anyways, we hit it off. Love her.

>> A. >> love her. Sweetest [ __ ] girl ever. So. nice. >> That makes it so much worse. You're. like, "Fuck.". >> Yeah, she was great. >> And did she know you were dating him? >> Well, I mean, do you have an Instagram? It was very fairly obvious. Like there. was no excuse as on her end, but at the. end of the day, I'll never blame the. girl. >> ever. >> He owed something to me. And you never. know what they say in the moment. Like, oh, we're on a break. Oh, she, you know. what I mean? >> Oh, to this day, I am not upset with. her. Oh, actually, I'm great friends.

with her. >> Oh, >> but do you know what I mean? Like, I. always think about like when women are. like, "Oh my god, my husband cheated and. [ __ ] this woman." And I'm like, I swear. to God when a man takes off his pants. and he's hard and he's staring at a. woman and the woman's like, "Wait, don't. you have a wife or don't you have a. girlfriend?" They're like, "She just got. run over by a bus. She's dead. She we. buried her last week. Like, she's where. she beats me." It's the whole thing. They will say whatever they when they. look down and they look up they're like. whatever I can do to get inside. >> So we can't blame the women. >> Yanc. we're friends. We're we become friends.

at night and then to the point we're. like we're like hanging out and we're us. hanging out. >> to the point where I even Okay. This is. actually psychotic. >> Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's Caller. Daddy. Nothing is that crazy. >> Okay. So I I one night we were all out. and I was a little drunk and I'm like I. need to see if this girl's going to kiss. her. only cuz I was like, I want to see. Sorry, >> I'm obsessed with you. >> I was like, no, I want to know what the. [ __ ] she has that I don't that like this. all happened. So, I made out with her. one night. But to this day, like we were. totally, it was all a joke. Whatever.

It's fine. I love women. I love men. I. love men more. But it's fine. It's fine. I just did it for my own sanity. Again, viros, we're [ __ ] Like, >> you wanted to understand what you were. missing, >> right? I wanted to know what he was. dealing with. If if I had anything like. I don't know. I don't know what the. hell. I just did it cuz I need to do it. She knows all this now. >> Okay. Okay. >> So then, so then, so we became friends. We're like really good friends. Like. we're all good, whatever. And one night. she calls me. Okay guys, listen to this. And mind you, I had broken up with him. I said what I said to him. He denied it.

He doesn't know now that I'm like having. a friendship with this girl. >> Okay. >> She calls me. She's like, "Maria, I need. to see you." I'm like, "Yeah, come. over." She comes over. She starts to. cry. She's like, "I have to be honest. about something.". >> She's like, "Maria, I love you. Like. you're such a good person. like I just. like I feel like I need to be honest. about something. I go, "Let me stop you. right there." I knew this entire time. >> It was like a whole like this could be a. movie. This could be a movie. And. >> this could be the whole episode. >> Oh my god. I know, right? Anyways, no, just long long story short, I just.

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Gang. Hook yourself up. >> Joey. Oh, back to Joey. >> Back to Joey. >> Joey the Bachelor. >> Yeah. >> So, you had never brought a guy home in. your life. Is this real? >> That became Okay, here's the thing. I. think we were It's like the semantics of. it. It's like, yes, have men met my dad. and like my like my parents? Yes. Like. my ex met my parents, but have I ever. brought them into my home? Were my like. my family met like no.

>> Yeah. >> But like have they met my parents and. the people that matter? Yeah, sure. Did. I introduce them to my brothers? No. Like like the entire family? No. But my. parents, yes. And like my friends, absolutely. Always. But like the idea of. just like it was just just Yeah. I. didn't bring them home. But it doesn't. mean that they weren't like. >> Yeah. >> acquainted with my parents and like. people that matter to me. It's just like. it was the idea of just like it's the. first guy that I'm going to introduce to. everyone all at once. >> Got it. >> Does that make sense? >> Yes. Completely. Okay.

>> Do you think you and Joey would have. actually made it in the real world? >> Um it would have been. great as friends. like we were so um. like funny together where we like liked. the same movies like had the same banter. but and we obviously like to like we. liked each other but I don't I you know. what I don't know I don't know I think. him and Kelsey make such a good match. because he was always one to always kind. of need reassurance. Is that mean to.

say? It's not mean to say because that's. what he was very um vocal about on the. season. And I think that like Kelsey's. the kind of woman that gives it to him, but like also is very confident and gets. it too from him. Like I don't know, they. work so perfectly together. I don't know. how to explain it, but um I've never. seen two people so into each other. It. just worked. >> I don't know if I could have given him. what exactly what he wanted all the. time. And so um I don't know, but I I. think that we were great friends. >> Yeah. What's something that a guy could.

do that would immediately give you the. ick? O. dance. Oh [ __ ] I don't know. Here's the. thing. I don't mind. Okay. You know, you. know, have you ever seen those guys who. like start breaking out into dance, but. they're so bad, but they think they're. so good. >> When are they breaking out into dance? Like, give me context. >> That's the problem. They do. >> No, wait. Like, where, >> [ __ ] Anywhere there's a [ __ ] tune. I don't know. >> Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Like, but here's the thing. This is. where where the difference lies. Like,

when they're dancing, but being silly. and like just owning that they're bad. But there's some that are so bad, but. they think they're good. That's where I. get the. >> the full ick. >> That's where I'm like, "Oh my god, Maron, you're not it.". >> No, that's that makes sense. What's the. craziest thing an ex has ever done to. you? >> Date 32 women at the same time. [laughter]. >> Sorry. >> Bachelor. >> Wait, I thought you Oh my god. I didn't. I didn't catch that at first. I was. like, >> "Yeah, this happened more than once in.

my life." No, just the Bachelor. >> [ __ ] I literally did. Okay. Oh my god. Yeah. Can we talk about that? How did. you deal with the jealousy? >> Okay, so here's the thing. >> And I'm gonna be very, very honest with. you in that moment. Oh, [ __ ] Should I. say it? >> Mhm. >> Should I say it? >> Mhm. You should always say whatever. comes to your brain, sweetie. >> I'm on a roll tonight. Um, >> it's 1:00 in the afternoon. >> I'm going to be honest about something. I know. Tonight, whatever. Today. [laughter]. >> So, I'm going to be honest about.

something. So Jen and I. >> Jen and I So Jen kissed him on the group. date. >> Okay. >> I went up to her because I just like you. know when you're very self-aware like. you know your place in things and I just. knew Joey and I were never going to be. endgame. Yes. Could I have made it. further? Sure. 100%. Like we had that. connection. I just didn't think I was. going to be endgame and he was going to. be endgame for me. And so I told Jen. that day that I was going to use that as. an excuse to leave Joey.

>> Use what? That she kissed him. >> [ __ ] that's This is tea. This is tea, [ __ ]. >> Wait, walk me through what you're. talking about. >> So there's a scene where um Jen kisses. Joey and that's where I'm like Jen. kisses Joey. I am disgusted. Um, but I I. you know, I was very close to her and I. just felt like I needed a way out and it. wasn't it had nothing to do with him. Joey is great. Like Joey is actually. such a catch and that's why I'm so.

happy. Like I think finding happiness. was like knowing that he's happy with. someone that loves him so much and that. I was I'm so happy for him. I just knew. it was never going to be me. >> And so I was like I need a way out. And. so I used Jen kissing him in that moment. that pissed me off as an excuse to. leave. >> Okay. Can I say what I'm getting from. that? as. >> I think that now with reality television. >> there's in a beautiful way there's so. much more that people understand.

>> that these environments are so [ __ ]. heightened and there's. >> you're in this bubble and you are. feeling feelings that maybe you wouldn't. feel on the outside world or maybe you. are feeling feelings but they're. heightened because of and so I can. imagine that. >> the moment you started to realize like. maybe I'm actually not endgame and maybe. we're better as friends and maybe. >> there's still doubts in your head if. you're right or wrong. >> Then you see him the next day and you're. like, "Oh, but he's so cute and like and. then there's also.

>> and when he fights for you to stay, you're kind of like, okay, [ __ ] maybe. I'm like misguided. I am I need to be in. this." And that's kind of how I felt. during Hometowns. I was like, he fought. for me so hard whether they showed the. entirety of that and that's fair. But in. that moment, he did fight for me to. stay. And so when it came to Hometowns, I'm like, "Okay, I'm dropping my walls. I'm giving this my all." But like that. moment in Jasper when I was trying to. leave, it was it was a little bit of a I. was just trying to give him a way out. Cuz I'm going to be honest now that.

you're saying it, it makes more sense. because again to context, if people. didn't watch that episode, you're. sitting on the couch with him. You're. basically saying like, I can't do this. anymore. I am jealous. I'm seeing you. kiss other women. Like I can't handle. it. >> I knew what I signed up for. >> Yes. Yeah. And I think you could tell. though there was something else going on. because you were being kind of sporadic. of like you're walking back and forth. You were like, I can't do this, Joey. And you could tell like that wasn't the. real reason. And you could tell he was. so confused. >> That you could tell that I could tell, but I'm also speculating and I was like,

guys, >> but I feel like that's what my job is to. do is just like read people sitting. across from me. And I. >> And you do a really [ __ ] good job. >> Thank you. But on TV, I was immediately. like, this is not this is not the whole. story. So you knew kind of in that. moment maybe it's time for me to go and. then he fought for you which maybe. you're saying we didn't see the whole. >> extent to which he fought. >> Yeah. You you didn't you didn't. >> And then we get to hometowns and then. that was kind of. >> cuz I was like I don't want to say I was. like forced to believe but I I mean you.

want to believe someone's actions and. like how hard he fought for me that. night where I was like okay you know. what I need to get my head in the game. Like I do feel good great things about. him. I think he's great and I am in it. But I didn't know where he was at and. there was like there was some sort of. disconnect. But when he fought for me so. hard I was like okay this is like. something that could be real and Maria. like stop [ __ ] this up. >> And so at hometowns is where I fully. dropped my walls and then I got sent. home. >> and I was like okay.

>> okay. >> this is why I protect myself. >> Yeah. So, I'm like, and that's what I've. kind of learned. Like, I've become. accustomed to like being disappointed by. men. And this has nothing nothing to do. with Joey. I don't when I talk like. this, it has nothing to do with Joey cuz. he was just doing his part in the show. And like he had more stronger feelings. for other women, and that's fine. But, um, I just feel like when I turn to like. protecting myself where I'm like almost, um, self-sabotaging, I feel like it's.

like self-p protection. >> Got it. Cuz aside from Joey, have you. ever been in a situation where you. told someone you love them and they. didn't say it back? >> More like they come on strong in the. beginning and like they're like all in. and I push them away and then when it. gets to the point where they're like, I. can't. Okay, you know, you keep pushing. me away. I'm actually going to go. And. then when they actually go, I'm like, wait, I didn't mean that. I was just. joking. Get your ass over here. And. they're like, I don't know if I can. Like, they don't believe me anymore. And. I I but then in the end, like I said, I.

something happens where I'm like, there's a reason why I was pushing them. away in the beginning because I they. they do something where I'm like they. weren't even I don't know if I even. believe them to begin with, but there's. been times where like they come on. strong and it's like we're never there. at the same time. I'll say that. >> I think that's a naturally you will get. to a point where I. >> believe that it's going to happen at the. same time where I'm not going to do. that. And. >> but you're what you're doing, Maria, is. you're testing them to see in your. brain. You think pushing them away, I'll. see if they stay if they stay. But what. you're going to eventually stop doing.

because that's not healthy is you'll. realize, oh, you're pushing them away. And they're like, okay, I'll leave. Like. you can only push so much someone away. to the point where they're like, okay, you're and imagine if you just didn't. >> Oh, I had an epiphany recently. I'm not. joking. Like a whole like I'm like a. whole different person when now like. when I'm going to open up to someone and. like I feel it initially and that that. initial attraction to me is so hard to. come by. Like I don't just have it for. anyone, but when I do, I'm not playing. those games. Like I've learned now the.

hard way. And so for me, I'm so open to. just letting myself be happy for the. first time where I've realized that this. is what I want. Amazing. >> Yeah. So that's what I'm saying like, you know, [ __ ] has happened in the past, but I grow from it every time. >> Totally. But I will say cuz I want to. make sure you know like I'm not judging. you. Like literally until Matt, like. that is that was my game. I would be. like, "Oh my god, I'm going to make sure. he really [ __ ] likes me by giving. never giving him anything." They go so. hard. And it definitely does something. to your ego. You're like, "Oh my god.". Like I'm like, "Holy shit." Like coming.

>> Yeah. But it's not it's not good. It's. not. >> And then when they turn around, you're. like, "Wait, get back here. What are you. doing?" And it's like, "Bitch, you have. been literally destroying me for the. past couple months. I've been trying. everything. I send you flowers. I'm so. sweet. I take you to dinners." And you. give me nothing. And now when I leave, now you want me. >> [ __ ] you. Yeah, it's a very immature, you know, like I I'm done with that song. and dance. Like I'm really over it. And. so I think it needed to happen for the. last time for me to be like, "Okay, wake. your [ __ ] up because you are capable of.

so much." And like I know what I bring. to the to the table and like what I can. offer someone. So doing that kind of. game is just it's not cutting it. anymore. And I don't I don't even want. to do that anymore cuz it it. [clears throat] it hurts me to hurt. someone else. Well, I think what was. positive to see is like I feel like we. like watched you grow on the Bachelor. Like when you were like, "Fuck, maybe I. do have to let my walls down." Like cuz. Joey kept being like, "Do you like me? Hello." And you're like, >> "I don't know." Like, "We'll see. tomorrow." And it was like it was so. classic what you're describing. And I. think it's so relatable because I think.

it's like this want to not be vulnerable. and you want to make sure they like you. before you're vulnerable with them. But. for you to actually know if you guys. like each other, you have to be. vulnerable in the [ __ ] first place. So, you can't be like walls up the whole. time. And I think that like I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, like I feel. like you you left the Bachelor. >> in a better position for your love life. cuz you're like, I now know what I'm. going to move forward and I'm what I'm. going to do when I meet someone that I'm. actually attracted to. I'm not going to. make them think I hate them.

>> I know. [laughter] I know. I have to let. them know. I know 100%. And like um. being on the Bachelor, it showed my. friends and family that I am a lot more. emotional than they've ever seen me. That was the probably the hardest thing. watching it back was having my friends. and family see how much I cried. >> cuz I don't cry. I that's just not my. thing. I am not that girl. And so they. couldn't even believe it. They're like, "Holy shit." Like, but it was it was a. lot more than just crying over a guy. It. was like I was being I felt like I was.

at war at times where it was like just. so many things accumulated into one. where I was like, "Okay, I'm I'm so. drained." But I did it. It It opened me. up. It It allowed me to know that it's. okay to be vulnerable and to let my. feelings out and it's better sooner than. later because a guy that likes you and. wants something with you should know how. you feel because that's the only way. your guys are going to move forward. And. I I totally get it. Now, >> everything you're saying, I think.

>> led to this perfect. >> Yeah. >> obvious next step, which is we need to. talk about The Bachelorette. >> Oh, yes. >> Because we watch you almost as like your. character arc is like you come in and. you're like. >> your walls are up and you're kind of. falling for this guy, but you don't know. if you can because you don't know if he. likes you and then you let him in and. then you get heartbroken, but you learn. so much and like we're all rooting for. you. I felt like America was rooting for. you and America was. >> absolutely devastated when you were not. announced as the Bachelorette.

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online or at a store near you. Were you. offered the role as Bachelorette? Obviously, I have been trying my hardest. to stay silent about this, but I think. that moving forward and if I'm going to. be in this world, like I have to be. honest, especially with the people who. have supported me. And the answer is. yes. Yeah, I was offered the role. I. mean, um, it was mine until I said it. wasn't. And yeah, it became very. overwhelming to the point where I had to.

decline. >> So, thank you for sharing. >> Yeah. How far along were you in the process of. like becoming the Bachelorette until you. pulled out? >> Yeah. Well, I to the point where I was. doing fittings. Like it was set in. stone. Um I was in it. >> Yeah. >> Um again, like, you know, bringing up Jen and all of. this, like I, you know, she was one of. my closest girls in the house and she. was always verbalizing how badly she. wanted this. And.

when everyone around me was so. supportive of me being in this position. and everyone wanted this for me, I kind. of took a second. I'm like, why am I not. happy? Why am I not excited about this? And it took me like realizing that it's. just not my time where I was like, guys, I respectfully I need to decline. I need. to take a step back. I was not in the. red right headsp space for this, especially knowing that like because I. know the extensive process it was to be.

on the show, right? So, having a bunch. of guys do the exact same thing and. they're there for me. I didn't want to. waste anyone's time. Um, and honestly, like, yeah, it was it was hard for me to. kind of jump right back into it, honestly. I mean, >> I think I can be honest like. >> Yeah. >> You were about to come on the show. >> and we were going to announce you as the. Bachelorette. What, like a month ago? >> Yep. >> And that I remember I was going to have. you on on like a Monday.

>> and on like Sunday, >> I get the call like Maria went back to. Toronto. >> Yeah. >> What were those like next few days like. once you turned it down? >> Yeah. No, I um the one thing about. having such a great um like production. behind you and like my producers were so. supportive of me and like just being. open and honest of where I was mentally. and how I felt about everything, you. know, like everyone was so excited and I. know what this season could have been.

like and it would have been great. I. just was not ready. And you know, coming. back home, I just when I say that I just. wanted to come back home back to reality. and just take time off from all of this, like I meant it. And I think people. >> saw that and recognized that I wasn't. posting as much and like I was not. speaking on things because as much as. like I wanted my time off, but I also. wanted Jen to have her moment. >> And like she is the most perfect.

bachelorette in my eyes. if like I. couldn't think of anyone better to do. this and um she was so ready for it and. that was enough for me to kind of say. yeah this is it's not my time. >> Um. >> it was it was a hard time because. everyone again everyone was so wanting. this for me. >> Um but I yeah I just. >> I just needed to be home with my family. and friends and take that time off to be. honest. >> When you saw how devastated America was. like how did it make you feel?

>> Yeah. I mean, a part of me obviously was. so grateful and like I like when people. even come up to me and ask for a photo. or talk to me and like love me off, I'm. like, I'm in awe of you. Like, I don't. deserve this. I'm just so appreciative. of it. And like that was one thing that. kind of kept me going in this in this. process because I was like, I want to do. this for them, you know? Like, I want to. do this for the people that love and. support me. But in my head, I'm like, that's not doing it for the right. reasons. >> Okay. But when you say you it wasn't. your time and you weren't ready.

>> Yeah. >> You're saying you weren't. >> Yeah. >> Why? Like I I need to understand a. little bit more like why why did you. turn it down? >> Well, okay. Like I what people saw on. the on their screens was only the half. of what I kind of went through in the. house. Like yes, did I have time off. before it aired? Yes. But again, everything was so like I was so anxious. throughout the whole thing. Um, and I.

get it. It would have been my own show. It would have been me kind of having. like more control over things, but. again, like it's so isolating being in. there and I would have to give up my. phone. Again, my freedom, like not my. freedom, but you know, like having to be. alone in that. And I don't I just wasn't. I wasn't comfortable. I wasn't. >> just mentally prepared for it. I think. that's to I appreciate you sharing that. because again I think it's like. >> so many of the women from this season. would have been amazing. >> Bachelorette. Yeah, Jen though is the.

perfect pick. >> She's going to be she's going to be. great and you would have been great and. it would have been completely different. seasons. But I appreciate you saying and. I think I wish. >> I think what you're doing more people. should take note of is like you're not. running for the clout and the fame. Like. there was an obvious answer of like you. would be on TV for another how many. episodes and everyone would see your. face and you'd be on posters and. billboards and you prioritized it. You. were like I literally am so [ __ ]. anxious and I don't feel good and I'm. going to prioritize that over.

>> getting my bag to the right. >> 100%. 100%. like that never interest me. interested me to begin with going on the. show and I wasn't ready to milk my 15. minutes like I when I like I remember. Wells um he's he was like I don't know. he did the bartending on Yeah. so he. went out on a podcast and he was saying. that I had all these expectations that I. had all these um. >> I don't know whatever the hell. >> requirements and and asks.

>> Yes. And that one was I wanted my phone. the entire time and I wanted my friend. to be a producer. And it's like like I. wanted so badly to shut that [ __ ] down. But again, I just didn't think it was my. time or my place. But like and he was. like, "Oh, everyone's going to forget. about her and Daisy." Like like this is. the this is going to be their biggest. regret. Forget about me. Like I am so at. the end of the day, I have to do what's. best for me. And if that's what like. it's it was so disheartening to hear. someone who knows this process, knows.

what they put us through, like not what. they put us through, but like knows like. how like intense it is and like you have. to be fully committed. Like knows like. how mentally draining and like. physically draining this could be to. like say something like that. It's like. >> shut the [ __ ] up. >> Literally shut the [ __ ] up. >> Like you don't know me. You don't know. me. And like I'm a very respectful. person. So that that went so against my. character and I wanted so badly to speak. on that because it's so not true. Like. everyone knows you get your phone taken.

away and that's it, >> right? >> Um well it's also just like so tacky. It's like he's been in this franchise. for so long. It's like did you ask Maria. if that those were her requests? Did you. hear it through the grapevine? Because. if those weren't your request, right? Like don't speak on [ __ ] that you don't. know about and also not to be a dick. But it seems like I'm sure Wells would. have loved to be the bachelor back in. his day. >> That's what I'm saying. But that's what. I'm saying. Did But here's the thing. You know, it's it's kind of like. contradicting for you to say I'm going. to be forgotten because I'm not. bachelor. But then where do you stand? You were never Bachelor, right?

>> So, are you forgotten? >> Well, I I don't know you, so you're. forgotten in my head. But like, no, that's kind of mean. Don't say that. I'm. sorry, Wells. Come make me a drink, babe. But, um, at the end of the day, I'm just saying like I would never say. that about someone else. I support. whatever anyone else wants to do if they. if it there at the end of the day what I. wanted people to understand why I took. my break was like they would say okay. you know it was fairly obvious everyone. wanted me as bachelorette obviously I. was going to be asked I think that was. obvious.

>> so if I didn't do it there had to be a. reason it had to be because of me. >> and because I had to take a step back so. for him to say it was because of this. that and the other thing like. >> Wells Wells. Wells. That's all I got to say. I just didn't. like it. I was like, I like just talk to. me and you know would ask me and I would. tell you you know this this and that. But like I'm not a dis I don't. disrespect especially the team that was. there for me who was who were leaving. their families for me to like be there.

by my side. Like I respect them so. freaking much. And it broke my heart. because I knew how badly everyone again. everyone. >> everyone wanted it. No, I agree with you. on the Wells thing. I think it's just. like a dumb comment made by someone who. like clearly would have he's speaking. from what he would have done and we're. like [clears throat] we know Wells, you. would have loved to be Bachelor back in. the day, but I don't think he thinks. he's irrelevant. So like why do you have. to be irrelevant if you don't grow in. different way in different ways? Like we. have other things that we would like to. do and if it means me going back to.

reality, going back to my dayto-day, what does that have to do with you? And. don't don't talk negative about about. it. Like it's okay. This this this I. understand. I was on a reality show. But. >> I it was real life to me too. Like I if. I want to go back home and just go back. to me, >> I am able to do that and I wanted to do. it and I did it. >> Done. >> Okay. Then now that we're not going to. see you on the show, we're not going to. get to see you date 32 men. >> No. >> What is going on in your dating life? Are you single?

>> I'm so single. >> Okay. >> I'm so single. Um, >> are we going to see you in Bachelor in. Paradise? >> No. Paradise. No. >> No paradise. >> No. >> Okay. So, how are you approaching your. dating life right now? >> Um, you know, I just want to meet someone. organically. Is that the word? >> Yeah. >> Um, like old school, you know? I just. want someone to like come up to me while. I'm grocery shopping or at a bookstore. Even though I don't read, I'll just be. there one day. Like, I just want to meet. someone the way like I don't know. Back.

in the day, no social media. I know my. DMs are open. >> Tell me. >> Nothing. >> Who have you gotten DMs from? Shut the. [ __ ] up. Shut up. Shut. Look at that. You I can already tell when you're lying. to me. Your jaw just says no one. >> No. I swear. >> Who's in there? >> [ __ ] you are you hooking me up? >> Who's in there? >> Do you want to look at my DMs? Give her. my phone. >> Have you not gotten a celebrity DM yet? >> From who? Who? Who? Tell me. >> who who has messaged you from? Who? Who. stands in? >> I'm married. [laughter] I know.

>> Who Who have you gotten DMs from? Come. on. Um, like just Bachelor Nation. >> Oh, give us one. Come on. >> No. What? The the the GOLDEN. BACHELORETTEES. >> WHAT? I think when you say the Golden. Bachelor, I'm like, "Fuck.". >> No. [ __ ]. >> No. The Golden Bachelorettees. Like. people who support me. You know what? >> Man, it has been No. None. [ __ ] can. you hook me up? >> No. >> Evan Peters, if you're watching this, I. saw you at Coachella and I did not like. that. Um, but I'm open. >> Wait, the guy that played Dmer? Yeah.

Okay. Don't say that. He was in so many. other [ __ ] things. >> Sorry. >> You're gonna let people know that I'm in. interested in [ __ ] Dmer. Not Dmer. >> Are you into like kinky [ __ ] like that. in the bedroom? >> No. No. No. No. But I like horror, right? So he's like the horror icon of. our generation. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. >> He's so hot. >> Okay. So, no guys in your DMs except for. bad. >> Guys in my DMs, >> maybe. >> But I don't want that though. >> You want to meet someone at stage coach. this weekend? >> You're dancing in the moonlight. Post. mode alone is singing. You're like, "Oh." And then someone grabs your arm.

>> Is he going to grab my arm? >> No. My leg. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. >> Wait a second. >> What? >> Are you that flexible? >> I could be. >> No, >> I could be, guys. Uh, I'm flexible. Take. note. >> Are you doing splits on the um. >> pee pee? >> I [laughter]. I could be. >> Hey, why not? >> Wait, do you. >> back flip on that [ __ ]. >> Do you use your dance moves in the. bedroom? >> No. No, just your flexibility.

>> Just my flexib Yes. Yeah, I can throw my. leg behind my head. [laughter]. >> You guys hear that? >> DMs are open. I'm joking. I don't want. [ __ ] DMs. I really don't. Guys, I'm. not kidding. I. >> Who would you answer in your DMs? Except. for Dmer. Who else? >> Not Dmer, man. Evan Peters. >> Sorry. Evan Peter. Sorry. >> Oh my god. Okay. Um, who would I? I. don't know. Someone who's sweet, kind, um, ready for a relationship, >> no games, >> um, I don't know. Who do you think I.

should answer? >> I need to think about that. I'm trying. to think if Matt has any friends so we. can keep it in the family. >> I like I don't like a guy like I used to. think I wanted a guy with like a big big. big personality. >> But we're going to clash. >> No, they need to shut the [ __ ] up and. less be the stars. Yes, >> I learned that soon. I was like, "Okay, when I started really reading on my Leo. chart, I was like, "Oh, I can't Leo.". I'm rising Leo. >> Yeah, there we go. >> What are you rising wet? >> I think there could be a Virgo in there. Or I'm just saying that to make you. excited. >> Wait. So, so what's your boyfriend.

husband? >> He's a hubby. He's an Aries and it works. perfectly. It works perfectly because. >> it does. Fire and fire. >> Yeah, it's great. But he's like he's. great. He's I just run the house and. then he's great. >> He's great cuz he got you. >> because he's like dominant but not in. the way that like I actually have the. last word. >> But that's what I'm saying. That's what. I want. I want a man but who lets me. have the you're [ __ ] you. your. independence and like don't be terrified. of your success and like when you're in. a room he's like go do your thing babe. >> Yes. Because they know at the end of the. day you're going to make them feel like. the biggest man in that [ __ ] room. >> Yes%. >> Okay. We're going to play a game since.

you're now dating. I'm going to give you. a scenario. >> Am I dating? Okay. Go. >> Okay. Well, you're dating. Well, you're. you're trying to Okay. I'm going to give. you a scenario that could happen on a. Okay. What? [laughter]. >> Sorry. I'm like I'm not trying that. hard. >> Okay. Fine. >> I'm okay with being alone. >> I'm going to give you a scenario. Okay. >> Yeah. >> That could happen on a first couple. dates with someone and you're going to. tell me what you would do. Go ahead. >> He subtly flexes how much money he. makes. >> I pay the bill and leave. >> Make it feel low. >> Take his balls and come right off.

>> Take your money and go impress some. other [ __ ] [laughter]. >> Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? >> No, I love it. No, I love it. This is. great. Is there any scenario where it. would be hot if someone's flexing about. their money? >> No. Never. Absolutely never. And you. know what? The richest people know. Not. that say I know all the richest people, but they know. They don't flaunt it that. way. And the people that do don't. actually have it. I like a guy who's. modest. Modest. >> Modest. No. Well, not modest with his. money. Like I want you to spend money, BUT. >> RIGHT. NO, BUT I MEAN LIKE I DON'T need.

him to talk about it. Like who are you. trying to impress? >> Like it's almost like you want to know. he's wealthy through what he says of. like, oh my god, like I can't wait to. take you to Paris this summer. We have. to go. and you're immediately like, "Huh?" Like, "What a we yeah, you got. this.". >> Like, like it's through the contextual. clues, you know, he's wealthy, not by. him like flexing on you. And you're. like, "You definitely don't have that. much." If you're talking about how much. money you have, you don't have that much. money. >> I I have no interest in hearing it. So, 100%. >> Okay. He texts back way too fast. Like, every single time.

>> Oh, no. Yeah. I don't play games like. that. When I see the text, I answer. >> No, Maria, hold on. >> No, I'm not kidding. Answer that text. fast or else. Um, no. I'm being serious. Do not wait on it. >> Hold on. What if it's like literally. every single time you press enter, he's. already typing. >> Oh, type. Why? Why not? >> He's that eager. >> I mean, he's there. I mean, that to me. shows you're not playing games. Like, if. you Here's the thing. >> But he doesn't have A JOB. LIKE, NOT. EVEN LIKE a 5 minute pause. >> Okay. Not. But here, let me say if if.

you see the text and you answer, I like. it. I don't need like obviously yes the. man should have a [ __ ] job and he. shouldn't be seeing his phone right away. but I mean for the most part like yeah. like when you see it I don't I don't. find it hot you waiting hours to. respond. >> Yes. We don't need two business days go. by and then it's like back but if you're. busy. >> do your thing. >> Okay. He's very into sexing. >> Um where we at in the relationship. >> like couple months. >> So we're dating. >> Yeah. >> And we're exclusive. >> Oh I don't know. Well, well, I'm only.

gonna sex you if we're exclusive. >> Okay, good to know. >> Really? Weirdly, I feel like I look back. at the dates and I'm like I feel like I. was sexing when I was like getting. towards exclusive. >> Oh, no. I need to be exclusive with you. cuz I I I I have fun sexing. >> You do have fun sexing. I felt like it. was like exhausting. >> If if cuz usually the guys that I talk. to aren't from Toronto and so it's long. distance. So sexing is what keeps us. close. >> Oh, not FaceTime sex. Oh, I mean all the. above. [laughter].

>> Okay. So, you you don't mind a little. sexed. >> Yeah. But not all the time at all. Like. you want to just like you want it to be. like special and sporadic and like keep. it exciting, but um Yeah. >> Okay. He leaves a toothbrush at your. apartment after a few weeks of seeing. you, but never says anything about it. >> I throw it out. The [ __ ] is this here? I. wouldn't even notice if you'd throw it. out and be like, "What the fuck?" That's. but. >> no no honestly I would be like well. first of all why don't you have a place.

and why aren't I leaving mine at yours? >> And also you know I find as I'm asking. you this question quite strange like. how' the toothbrush get there like. >> I know what the [ __ ] [laughter] you put. in his pocket he's like. >> no literally. >> no that would be a little weird. >> because probably if you're not like you. probably were at dinner or you're at the. bar and so this [ __ ] keeping it in the. back pocket like poking out the whole. time. >> Yeah. No, I would be like. >> a little grossed out. >> I'd be like, I don't know if it's ever happened, but.

I'll let you know when it does. >> Yeah, unless he has like veneers and he. like is like, "Oh my god, my teeth my. teeth will stain if I don't get this. white wine off or red wine off. [laughter] them." Like, I don't know. I'm trying to think. >> He travel That's a turnoff. He travels. with a toothbrush cuz his veneers. No, no, no. >> His mom's like a. >> No. I I I That's a No. >> Okay. So, we're not appreciating if a. guy leaves a toothbrush. You're just. You're just starting. >> I don't I don't think I would think too. much. I I I mean, there would need to be. a conversation. I can't imagine a guy. just like slipping it in there. >> Um, >> but I I think if he did slip it in there. without a conversation, I would be like,

"What the fuck?". >> Have you ever hooked up with a guy that. when you went to his house and his. bathroom was another one? >> Yeah. Or there's It's like fully. stocked, ready to go for like a woman. post sex. >> No, but that's a little [ __ ] weird, right? >> It's weird. I've been there before. I've. been there before and I'm like, >> "What are you, a sexer on the go?" Not a. sexer on the go. Like, what are you like. a [ __ ]. >> a [ __ ] on the go? >> The [ __ ] on the go. Like, he's ready. He's equipped. I mean, >> he's got the baby wipes. >> Oh my god. He's got like the makeup. wipes. >> You know what? Stop this for now. >> No, this is what I will say. If a guy. has his entire bathroom stocked for a. girl, if it's a one night stand, I'm.

like, "Thank you. Thank you that I can. take my makeup off. I can like put my. tampon. Imagine these tampons." Um, [laughter] but well, that would be. confusing. But if you're seeing him in a. way that you like him, I would be like, "No, [ __ ] this [ __ ] You're. >> Oh my god. You want to hear a story?". >> Yeah. >> So, I was seeing this guy. >> This is before the show. And I went to. his house and he had a his and hers sink. and his he had moved out and he moved to. this new place. I'll never [ __ ]. forget this. So he had a his and hers. sink and then I walk into the bathroom.

and there's his sink. It's all his [ __ ]. and then there's this random toothbrush. in the her sink. So I go, "What the [ __ ]. is that?" He's like, "Oh, it's mine. I I. use I swear to God, this is this was his. excuse. I almost want to puke." He's. like, "Oh, no, it's mine. I I use two. separate toothbrushes. One that's a. little bit hard bristles, bristles, whatever the [ __ ] and one that's. softer. I go like, I don't know. Do I. look like I'm stupid? Okay, don't answer. that. But I don't [ __ ] with me right. now. He went to the extent of grabbing. the toothbrush and using it to prove to.

me that he does use it. And I went, you. just did the most and you're. embarrassing. >> So, goodbye. >> It's actually like regardless of if he's. lying or if he's telling the truth, both. are awful, >> right? >> Both are awful. >> WHY WAS IT ON THAT SIDE? Why wasn't your. [ __ ] his ugly ass stupid messy side? >> Put both of your toothbrushes in the. same cup. You're [ __ ] liar. Okay. He. vents to you about his ex on one of the. first few dates. >> You know what? Um. >> I like this. I like to do this thing. where I I call it um honesty hour.

>> It's actually a hidden thing that I like. I I get every guy with it to be honest. Girls take notes. Um so I like to hang. out with guys casually. Very casual. Let. them know we're like we're friends. we're going to like see where this goes. kind of thing. Let's have a bottle of. wine and let's ask each other anything. and like let's not judge each other on. this. So, I usually ask I'll say what. are or if your ex can describe you in. any way, how would it be? Because I like. to know I want to see how they're going. to a talk about their ex if it's going. to be in a nice way, but also I want to.

know what they would think that their ex. would say about them. >> So, just like kind of opening that up. and like letting them know it's a. comfortable setting to like talk about. that. Um, but if they're opening up. about their ex randomly without me. asking, I'd be like, "Girl, girl, I. would call him a girl." No. But I'd be. like, "Listen, I think you need to send. her a text and say you're sorry because. you're still hung up on it. I'm not. interested.". But, um, I don't know. I would I. wouldn't want to know. >> Okay. Wait. Honesty hour. I'm kind of. loving it. This is my problem. First of.

all, I feel like every single time that. a guy Okay, this is my opinion. >> They're still not being They're still. not being honest. >> Yes. This is my problem. Every [ __ ]. time I think that girls always want to. [ __ ] know about a guy's past. I'm. like, when I met Matt, I was like, "Tell. me every single ex you have. Show me. their Instagram. Who are they?" Then. some of them I was like, "Oh my god.". Like, "Whoa, you dated her? Oh my god.". And then. >> he never asks in return. >> Oh my god. Cuz they don't want to know. But I like that though. >> It bothers them so much that they don't. want to know. A guy who's like, "Show.

me. Show me." I know there there's. You're right. It's make you jealous. like they want to know and then they. don't ask. >> I I can see why they wouldn't want to. know because I in my mind this the way. my thought process would be is that they. like me so much that they they can't. imagine me with anyone else. >> I I believe that and I No, not at all. >> It's not right. But then there's also. the the other guy who would be like, "No, show me every single one." He's. like weirdly like obsessive and like um. wants to like take ownership of you and. wants to know like I I like the guy who.

would be like, "You know what? I don't. even want to see it." No, I love the guy. that does that. I remember Matt did that. to me on the date. I was like, "So, do. you are you going to. >> I could show you what this guy sends. me.". >> It breaks me. Such confidence, >> but such confidence, but sometimes I'm. like, "Motherfucker, let me make you. jealous." Be jealous. Okay. Second. question is when you ask them, >> "Oh, what would your exes say about. you?" What do you think, Maria? If I ask. you, what would all of your exes say. about you? >> O [ __ ] I don't like this turning on me. Um, I think they would say that I'm.

honest. um that I'm loyal and I can be um a. little nuts at times. >> I love the honesty. >> What What a shocker, right? And that's. me. I don't think so. >> Self-aware. >> Self-aware. >> So, you're not doing the Bachelorette. Where are we going to see you? Like, we've got to see you more often. >> I would love to be seen more often. [laughter]. >> No, actually, you know what? I'm not. kidding you when I say this. Like, I'm. I'm taking it step by step. like this.

like you I wanted to be on this podcast. This was my first step and now what I'm. going to do moving forward, I don't. know. >> I really don't know. And so to give an. answer, but I'm sure people will see. more of me. >> Yeah, I think that's a great answer. Like I can imagine like this is very. overwhelming, right? Like you had a. pretty normal life before all this. Does. your dad really make uh sprinkles? >> Yeah, >> that's kind of cool. >> I know. And every time I say sprinkles, they're like sprinklers. I'm like, no, no, no, guys. the shapes and sugars you. see on baked goods, but people don't get.

it. But someone has to do it. >> Do you like sprinkles? >> I, you know, my dad owned a chocolate. factory before the sprinkles. >> And I wasn't a big chocolate eater. I. know. I'm not like a dessert girl. I'm. not like He did like chocolate covered. almonds, everything. And so, um, but as. for sprinkles, yeah, I mean, >> do I usually put sprinkles on things? >> Yes. I'm going to say yes because I own. a sprinkle company. But, um, listen, we. everyone, you need it. We need it. >> We need it. We need it. And someone's. got to do it. So. >> So you're going to stage coach. What are.

you going to do with Who are you going. to stage coach with? >> The sisters from my show. >> Iconic girls. Love. They are the best. >> You told me you were going with your. sisters. And I was like, who you have. sisters? >> Well, they are like my sisters now. >> Who are you going with? What are their. names? >> Uh Lauren and Allison Hollinger. >> K. >> And S. >> Do you love country music? I I I um Oh, >> I'm I I [laughter]. >> I like country music, but am I the. biggest fan? >> No. You're kind of like a Nickelback. girl.

>> I love Nickelback, [ __ ]. >> I knew it, >> [ __ ] I cannot wait to see Nickelback. >> Photographs. every time. >> No, I literally love Nickelback. And I. don't get why they have such a bad rep. because I don't know. It makes It's like. me. Why do I have such a bad rep? >> I don't get it either. I I Nickelback, I'm with you. But um. >> not not after this episode. I feel like. we really. >> kind of covered it all. Well, we didn't. cover anything. I feel like [laughter]. you we need to like we need to do 19. more of these to actually get through it. all. But I truly had so much fun with.

you today. I think you're. >> even better in person. You're so fun to. be around. You have insane stories. >> I do. And yeah, there's so many more. actually. Yeah. I'm not going to say it. >> What? >> No, no, no, no. We'll save it. >> We'll save it. We'll save it for. something else that maybe you'll do one. day. >> Oh, maybe. >> I have an idea. >> Oh, well, I'm interested in hearing. more. >> Okay, [laughter]. >> Maria, thank you so much for coming on. Caller Daddy. It was truly a pleasure. and it was very fun. >> Pleasure is all mine. >> Love you. >> I love you, [ __ ].

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