La La Anthony: Life After Professional Athletes

What is up daddy gang? It is your. founding father Alex Cooper with call. her daddy. [music]. >> Lala. Welcome to Daddy. [laughter]. >> First of all, can we address the. glasses? Okay. >> Okay. Let's talk about it. >> So, I came in here with glasses on and I. was Oh, you're wearing my stylist. hoodie. Local love club. That's my. stylist. I was like,

>> "Yes, I love her so much." I honestly. like woke up this morning and was like, "It's raining. It's a Monday. I need to. feel cozy." And then you just walked in. and you were like, "Let's level that. [ __ ] up. >> Can I keep my sunnies on?" And I I love. you. >> No, I didn't. No, no, no. I said when I. walked in, I was like, "If I wear my. sunglasses, are people going to be like, "Where the [ __ ] does this [ __ ] think. she's going?" And then you were like, "Well, I'll wear some, too." And I was. like, "Fine." So, we're just going to. both wear sunglasses the whole. interview. >> And now we're just we're vibing on a.

different frequency now. Everything. feels a little bit better. The lights. are better. >> No, but it was crazy when we walked in. You said it was so bright. It was crazy. Okay, so we're on a different frequency. >> So, now we're here. Call Her Daddy is. brought to you by Tinder with Tinder. group hangouts. [music]. The plan actually makes it out of the. group chat. What a concept. Listen, we. have all been there. It is Saturday. night. Everyone wants to do something, but no one can to decide what because. the second someone finally asks, "So,

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because there's so many things to say. about you. I'll try to keep it short, but you can't. >> You got your start in radio, obviously. Look how much of a natural. You're like, let me just let me do the show today. Alex, you can leave. I'll just talk. You're an actress, producer, a New York. Times best-selling author, a social. justice advocate, best friend to some of. the most famous women in the world, and. a mother. >> Yes. >> Let's I kind of want to go back to the. beginning a little bit because I think. it's helpful for people to feel.

extremely connected to your story, right? You start working at 15 years. old, your first internship. How the [ __ ]. did you get the internship? How did you. get your foot in the door? Please tell. us the story. Okay. So, I I always love. music. That's my thing. I love love love. music back in the day. Day day. We're. not going to talk about it too much. I. thought I was going to be a rapper, but. that was like back in the day. So, I was. like, >> you look like a little something. >> Oh my god. No. You'll die. You'll. [laughter] be like, "Get me out of here. now." Um, so I thought I was going to be. a rapper. And so, I just love music. And.

I remember going to the opening of this. music store and I saw these people like. putting up posters. Remember back in the. day it was different when albums came. out. like there would be posters. everywhere and stuff everywhere. So I. was like, "Who are these people doing. that?" And I came up to them. I was. like, "Who do you guys work for? Like. what are you doing?" Cuz I thought it. looked like so cool. Especially as a. teenager, like 15 years old. So they. were like, "Oh, we work at this radio. station and we're interns." But they. were like to be in an internship. program, you had to be I don't remember. I think it was 17 years old. So I was. like, "Oh yeah, I'm 17." And I just got.

a fake ID because. >> why not? >> I lived in a hood and I didn't know how. to get a fake ID. So, I got a fake ID. and then I got the job as an intern. lying saying I was older than than I. really was. But that's the only time. kids where a lie can work in your favor. Um, and then I just started working at. the radio station. And from there. interning, I got on the radio and then I. moved to LA to be on the radio and then. from there I got my MTV job and I. started hosting TRL which everyone.

knows. >> Started doing that. I also love how so. casually I think there's so many young. women that listen to this show that are. like may currently be an intern and you. just like slid that in like so I went. from being an intern then all of a. sudden I'm a radio personality like hold. on hold on you just skipped a huge step. how the [ __ ] did you go from intern. putting posters on the wall to then. being a radio personality. >> so just working really hard like I just. worked really really hard at it and I. was like whatever I do I don't care if. I'm just putting this water here I'm. going to be the best at putting the.

water here like I'm just going to be. Great. I just made myself available. I. worked really hard and I had a. personality. So they were like, "We like. your personality." Like there's two guys. on the radio. At that time it was. Ludicrous, but his name back then was. Chris Love. So they were like, "The two. guys, him and Poon Daddy, they were. like, they need a girl on their show. Like nobody wants to hear just two guys. going back and forth all day." I was. like, "I can do it." So at first and and. we laugh about all the time, they didn't. really want me there because they were. like, "This is our shit." Like who the. [ __ ] are you? But I was like, I'm coming.

to bring some energy in here and. >> some some girly vibes. No, I I wasn't. intimidated. I was like, I'm I'm here to. do this. And then that's how I got on. the radio. So, shout out to Luda who. I've known for since Yeah. since I was. like at that time, >> what 16 maybe. >> Okay. We all need to have that energy. cuz I'm like, "Oh my god, it'd be so. intimidating." You're like, "What the. [ __ ] I deserve to be there. I had the. personality for it. >> Even if I was intimidating, nobody else. was going to know. >> You're going to fake it." Yeah, you got. to fake it till you make it. Even if I.

felt like that, which I'm sure at. different times I did, I was like, "This. is my way out." It was bigger than. >> It was bigger than a job for me. It was. about survival. It was about like having. money in my pocket to live. Like, it was. deeper than like, "Oh, I just want this. cool job." It was like, "I need this job. so I can afford my apartment, so I can. get food for myself, so I can take care. of myself, and ultimately take care of. my family." Like, it was bigger to me. Totally. Like when the purpose is. bigger, your your drive is different. >> Yeah. You like you just see straight.

like you can't you don't even look back. You're like I got to go forward. >> Exactly. >> So you're still a teenager. You go to. you leave Atlanta. You go to LA. I love. how you're like 17 at the time. Had you. ever been to LA? >> No, I never been to LA before. I didn't. have money to like travel and do stuff. like that. I would hear about LA, but I. had never been there. The thing about it. is like when I when I lived in New York, I was born and raised in Brooklyn, but. during this radio time I was in Atlanta. my mom had moved us to Atlanta, but like. you would hear about LA, but it just. felt like this distant land somewhere.

that like Yeah, I know like famous. people live there, but it's not a place. that you ever thought like you would go. to or anything like that. So, when I got. the job in LA, cuz I had sent my radio. tape to different places when I got the. job in LA. When I got off the plane, that was my first I was moving to LA. Getting off the plane, that was my first. time being in LA. >> Did you know anyone? >> No. Were you Who the hell would I know. in LA? [laughter] I didn't I didn't talk. to people. I was like my circle was New. York and Atlanta. >> Damn. So, what when do you remember.

personally being like this is my big. break. Like I just made it. >> I felt like that with LA because. Atlanta, as big of a market it is, radio-wise, it was a smaller market than. LA. New York is one, LA is two when it. comes to radio. So, I was like, I'm. about to be in the number two market. Like, this is crazy. And when they. called me to give me the job, they were. like, well, how much money are you. making? And I remember at that time I. was making like, no lie, I was making. like $18,000 a year. And I was like,

um um I I I make like 30,000 a year. Like I just said something and they were. like, "Oh, well this job is offering. like 90,000 a year." And I was like I. really was making $18,000. [clears throat]. So I went from making 18,000 to 90,000. I was like. >> You're like you know what? I think I'll. take it. >> I was like I'm out. But I had to play it. cool. I didn't want them because. remember I was already li damn it's a. lot of lying in my story. >> We're like LA this is literally the. whole episode [laughter] is like LA lied. through and through lying. I lied about.

my age. I lied about how much I was. making. All good lies. >> All good to get you through the door. >> Yes. Exactly. >> A little white lie with that can't hurt. anybody. >> Yeah. So then I got on the radio in LA. and then I was on the radio doing really. good out there and then one day now this. day I remember clear. I walked into the. radio station and the receptionist says. to me, "Somebody from MTV called for. you." I was like, "Call for me for. what?" They're like, "I don't know. They. want to talk to you." And it was like.

the little post-it with like the number. So, I called. I was like, "Hey, um, this. is LA. Like, somebody said, "You guys. are looking for me?" They were like, "Yeah, we want to, um, meet with you. We. just heard a lot about you from the. radio. We've heard you on the radio. We. thought you were really cool. We wanted. to see like what you looked like and. like, you know, just catch a vibe." And. they were like, "You you seem like a. really cool person." I was like, "Thanks." Like, "What's happening here?". So then they were like, "Could you. interview somebody for us so we could. see like how you would interview on. camera?" But the catch was I had to find.

the person to interview. I'm like, they're like, "You'll have to bring the. person to interview cuz they also wanted. to see maybe like I don't know, maybe my. connection. I don't know." But I was. like, >> "All right, cool." So, I actually. remember I called Tyrese because at that. time Tyrese was also doing stuff on MTV, too. So, I was like, if I call somebody. that's like one of their own, maybe. that'll help. So, I brought him up. there. I interviewed him. They seemed to. love it. And then they called me and was. like, "Would you be open to moving to. New York to be on MTV?".

>> Dude, it's so crazy because I was. talking to Kate earlier for just. >> I want to see your hello. We're like, "Okay, now we're like less nervous.". Lied to my face 10 times already. We're. like, "Let's just do it." Okay, we're. done. We're done. The stick is over. We're moving forward so we can see each. other. Hello, bright lights. Okay, Kate. and I were talking about TRL. >> Yes. And to the Jenzers listening, just. shut the [ __ ] up for a minute because. you need to be humbled and listen to.

what TRL was because I remember I have. an older sister and I would she'd be. like running home from school like, "Come on, Alex, we got to go. We got to. watch." And it was like the biggest. thing to watch when you're looking at. breakout artists or like Christina. Aguilera coming on and you're just like, "Holy [ __ ] shit." This was the thing. >> It was huge for all artists. And then. like it was in New York. It was in Time. Square. So everyone in high school at. that time wanted to rush to Times Square. to stand out there to see like who's. going to be in the infamous like window.

where you would wave from. And you had. everybody like you said Beyonce and then. actors Will Smith would come, Tom Cruz. I mean. >> at that time in sync and it was like. Justin Timberlake and. >> No, it was crazy. >> That's so cool. I I think like hearing. about your career is always incredible. to hear, especially from a woman just. like. >> battling to get to the top and like. what's a setback that you remember. facing early in your career? Obviously, it wasn't all roses and like get on the.

flight, move to LA, get the job, happiness. And like how did you overcome. it? >> Well, I think a lot of my struggles came. coming out of MTV because MTV was so big. that you were always told like that's. it. That's your peak. This is it. like. it doesn't get any bigger than this. And. you would kind of see MTV VJS come and. go and then it would be like whatever. happened to so and so or they would have. these specials like going back down. memory lane and you'll be like what. happened to and I was like oh no like. after this job it's not going to just be.

over for me. Like that's just not going. to be the only thing that I'm known for. So that's when I started pivoting into. acting and stuff. And when you're coming. off of being a host, it's hard for. people to see you as an actor because I. was so well known as an MTV host. First. of all, there's not a lot of MTV hosts. Secondly, there's definitely not a lot. of black MTV hosts. So, it was like I. was known as, you know, a black girl on. MTV. So, it was like the acting side. didn't really want to give me that shot.

I think that's a very relatable concept. of like people wanting to put things in. boxes and you're trying to pivot because. you want to pivot and you want to do. something different and it's like no no. no you have to stay in that lane. I was. going to ask though like as a woman of. color in the industry especially when. you were just starting out and you. didn't have this status did you face. discrimination? >> Well it was different. It was it was. interesting for me because I was at MTV. but all of my friends and people in the.

business were at BET and I was like it. was like 106 in Park and then there was. like TRL and I used to feel like I kind. of want to be over there like that's. more my music that's my culture that's. who I am but then I was like maybe I. have a responsibility here to bring my. culture more of my music diversity to. MTV and put them on to like these are. the songs we're listening to. These are. the artists that we love. Let's give.

them, you know, a little bit more shine. So then I became like empowered to want. to do that. >> That's really cool cuz I feel like a big. theme so far already what you're saying. is like every time you've walked. indoors, like you're like, "No, I I'm. going to even if I don't feel it. immediately, I'm going to pretend I. deserve to be here." And it's like a. mentality thing, even if you don't feel. it all the time, which I think is. important no matter what you're doing in. your life. like just pretend you [ __ ]. deserve it. >> And it's even if like on bad days, we're. all entitled to them. We all have them. But it's like certain jobs, and I hate.

to say it, but certain jobs, they don't. care about a bad day. So, it's like fake. it, fake it, fake it. Then go home, talk. to your friends, your family, your. therapist, whatever you need to do. But. in that moment, like act like you're. okay sometimes even when you're not. And. then deal with it in the moments that. you give yourself to deal with it. This. is a stressful industry to be in and. you've got to be on and you've got to be. ready. >> Have you ever experienced burnout? >> Always. I'm always burned out. I'm. always tired and I'm not good at the.

balance, which that's not a great thing. I mean, you have to be able to have. balance. I always feel guilty when I'm. like not working or having fun or even. on vacation. Like I just feel like, oh, I got more work to do. What am I doing? Why am I hanging out? Then I'm on. Instagram and it seems like everybody's. on vacation all the time. I'm like, "HOW. THE HELL DO YOU GUYS GO ON THIS many. trips?" Like, I don't go anywhere. I'm. like, "I need to go on more trips.". >> I feel like either one, I feel like I'm. always behind when I'm looking at. Instagram. I'm like, "Wait, like why do. these people know about this thing?" Or. I'm like, "Why is everyone relaxing on.

the beach?" Cuz when I go, I feel like. so stressed, but are they actually. relaxing on the beach? Cuz then when. you're relaxing on the beach or not. actually relaxed on the beach, you're. like, "What the [ __ ] is true and what's. not?". >> It's all a facade. It's all an illusion. >> It is a complete illusion. before I even. obviously met you, I was trying to just. get on a phone call with you, just. quickly say hi. And I was like, it's. like 8 o'clock at night and I they were. like, "Hey everybody, uh Lala's not. available because she's at Riker." And I. was like, "Holy fuck." No, I was like,

"That seems way more important than me. just being like, "Hey girl, like see you. tomorrow." Like it's just like Yeah. I. was like, "Go [ __ ] myself. I'll see you. in the studio. I really appreciate what. you're doing. Can you explain how you. got into it and like what are you. doing?" Well, it's only because you. can't for those of you who've never been. inside a prison or a jail before, you. cannot have your cell phone. >> I need I was not even. like otherwise I [laughter] would have. been like, "What's up? You can't have. your cell phone." Which, by the way, you. don't realize how hard it is to go 8 n. 10 hours without your phone. Like, it's. good for me because we're so attached.

And I'm like, I realize that. >> this attachment is is not healthy. But. um so yeah, Rikers um I work a lot in. the R&DC building which is uh generally. 18 to 21. So the younger population and. um there was a pastor that was running. an initiative called Fatherless No More. His name is Pastor Tim Johnson who I. love. And I sat in on a lot of his. sessions with his group of of young men. And from there I just continue to work. with him and you know starting to mentor.

and do my own thing as well. I'm just so. passionate about But I have a. 15-year-old. So when I see these young. men who are incarcerated, I see my son's. face. I see how one bad decision can. change your whole life. And sometimes. it's just peer pressure, following. friends, being in the wrong place at the. wrong time. A lot of these kids are. amazing, beautiful, I call them kids, but young men that shouldn't be in. there, but just environment, upbringing,

everything that I feel like I can relate. to. So, I'm all about second chances and. also giving them the tools they need so. when they do re-enter into the. community, they can be assets instead. of, you know, a hindrance to their. community. So, we work really hard. It's. me, Britney, my assistant, Brian. We. work really, really hard with them. And. I don't know, I found like I've been. passionate about a lot of things. I give. back in a lot of ways, but this I really. feel like is, you know, you feel like. this is my calling. This is my passion. There's something about it that it keeps.

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available now in the Uber app. Learn. more on the Uber app. It's really incredible what you're. doing. It seems like you're such a good. mother. You're a great person and you're. a great friend. And I talk about it a. lot on my podcast of I have a lot of. young women that write in, which I'm. like, I totally feel you on this. friendship. It It es and flows. It's the some of the. most beautiful relationships you can. have because you aren't sleeping with.

this person. Hopefully, >> hopefully, [laughter] you never know. Um, but like it's a genuine two-way. street. And at times, it's not always. going to be 50/50. Maybe you're giving. more to your friend, they're giving more. to you at a time, whatever it is. But I. always like to talk about friendship. because I think it's an underrated. conversation that fulfills a lot of what. you need in your life. And it doesn't. always have to be romantic. Romantic and. it doesn't have to be family, >> right? >> What qualities do you think about your. personality make you a good friend?

>> Um I think if you were going to ask my. friends, they would say like I'm very. caring, loving. I'm a cancer. Like we're. super loving. We're super emotional. We're when we love we love hard. But I'm. also honest like my thing even going. back to the young men at Riker like I. always say you know no judgment. Like. I'm not here to judge you. I'm going to. give you real advice but I'm not here to. judge you. And if I say something you. might not agree with or don't like. It's. not cuz I'm judging you. I'm just giving. you the real. So I think it's the same.

with my friends. Like when they ask me. advice they know I'm going to give them. real advice coming from love, not like. judgment. I don't care what you say you. did. What I've heard it all. I've seen. it all. Nothing surprised me anymore. But I'm just like, yo, you gotta nah, you can't do that. You know, whatever. And just honest and they know it's going. to be out of love. And I think that's. it. I also, you know, keep everyone's. >> information, life secrets safe, like. you've never heard of me being involved. in anything with like any messiness or.

whatever. When people trust you with. things, you have to honor that and take. that seriously. And I definitely do. I. really respect that cuz I think some. people can't take the honesty and I feel. like a lot of times I'm similar in. friendships where I'm like I know this. is going to upset you but do you want me. to lie to you and be like sweetie it's. going to you're totally in the right. you're by like that's not me being a. good friend and I feel like it's good. sometimes to have people around like you. being like. >> you can cry and I'll hold you while you. cry but it's going to be from the.

information I'm about to tell you but. it's just me being honest and I don't. see why. >> I don't know I I think it's like look. inward if you don't want people to tell. you the truth because it's like work on. yourself. It's not your friend. It's. actually you not being able to take the. heat. >> And I'm also not like I'm competitive. like but not. >> meaning I don't want what you have. I. know what's for me is for me. That's. also the issue with a lot of friendships. and stuff. It's like competition or. jealousy. Like I think there's enough. for everyone. Like what I'm doing is not.

going to be the same as what you're. doing. Or if we do the same thing, how. you do it, how I do it is going to be. different. Like I don't get involved in. that. I want all of my friends and. anyone I care about to win. I want to. see everybody do good. I'm like. cheerleading from the sidelines for. everybody. And I know you know what's. for me will come. And what's great about. my friendships is everyone kind of. empowers each other. I have friends that. are like, "Oh, you're working on this.". I actually know someone that did that. Let me call them and tell them you're. doing it or let me call them and tell. them to look out for you, whatever. And. that's how it is. It's not like, "Oh, I'm not going to give her the number or.

the secret. Like I don't want her to. know." Like that's not how my. friendships are. >> Everyone's going to have their. successful moments and everyone's going. to have the LOLs where they're down on. themselves and it's like why hold any of. your friends back? If anything, it's. great to surround yourself with people. that are thriving and succeeding rather. than feeling like jealous, right? I love. that. How do you know when it's time to. end a friendship? >> I think that you'll know when it's, you. know, I think it's time to end a. friendship when it's no longer making. you feel good. I think that's the same.

thing with a relationship. A friendship. is a relationship. Like when it's no. longer making you feel good and it's. causing you stress and agony and. sadness, then it's time to let it go. Like the world right now is stressful. enough. Daytoday life in this world is. stressful enough. So your friendships, your relationships, anyone in your life. should be adding positivity. Not saying. again that they're not going to tell you. what you want to hear. Like it shouldn't. just be like you're great, you're great, you're great, you're great, and not. being honest with you. But when you feel. like, you know, when the phone rings and. you look and you're just like, uh, what.

now or this is going to drain me or. what's going to happen here? That's when. you got to start re-evaluating. I agree. And I think there's moments where every. friendship, if it's a good friendship, you will have hardships. Like that's. weird. If you've never had a tip, like, oh, you're best friends. Well, then is. it a real relationship? Cuz like we're. humans. We're going to go through [ __ ]. But I appreciate when there's times to. work through [ __ ] and then there's time. to be like this is not healthy and to. find that balance. >> Especially when you start seeing a.

pattern. If there's a pattern then. you're like. >> okay this is this is who this person is. I might need to exit stage left. >> When your friends come to you for. advice. I'm thinking like I feel like. everyone has that person in a friend. group. Like what are people like I'm. going to LA for this. Like what is your. go-to? They're looking for guidance. They go to you for. >> probably [laughter]. relationships and I don't know why I'm. not even in a relationship. My marriage. is my marriage did not succeed. I don't. know how I'm the relationship expert. I. always tell I told a friend of mine the.

other day. I go I don't know why. everybody wants to ask [laughter] me. about relationships. I need to be asking. them about I'm not even in relation. >> I love it. >> Maybe they're like I don't know. Our. [ __ ] [ __ ] up so bad. We want to make. sure that doesn't happen to us. >> They're like so give us the guideline of. what not to do. LA. No, but I think you. >> don't athlete. No, it's a joke. Just. kidding, guys. >> Athletes are really. love you all. >> No, I love you [laughter] all, too. No, I've talked so much like healthy. I. think [ __ ] on the athletes I'VE DATED.

>> NO, NO, NO. WE DON'T WANT TO TALK BAD. ABOUT ATHLETES. >> NO, NO, NO. And I think it's actually. more which I would like to clarify in. the past. It I think it's too easy. almost as a joke because it's like. >> they're giving it to us at times. Do you. know what I mean? There's. a stigma that's not fair. Like I'm sure. accountants are cheating. You know what. I mean? Like I know our dentists are. getting after it. >> Don't hear about it as much. >> Yes. Yes. Exactly. >> So I did want to ask you.

>> there is a New York Times article about. you from 2011 and you were described as. the first lady of the NBA. I'm in the. presence of a goddess. Okay, the king. herself. You were the original NBA. couple. >> Well, we see how that turned out, guys. >> L's [laughter] like, hold on. >> They probably won't They probably won't. even let me in games anymore. [laughter]. So So there goes your first lady, guys. >> Goodbye. [laughter] You were the. original Are we back? Are we back for.

the athlete section? We're like, hold. on. Let us just tighten up. You were the. original NBA power couple. >> Yeah. Was it hard to have eyes on you. during the beginning of your. ex-husband's career? Like all these. people interested in your life, etc. >> Yeah, that was hard for us. That was. hard for us. I feel like when we moved. to New York, cuz we came from Denver at. the time. When we moved to New York, I. was I'm from New York, so being back in. New York is nothing new, but when we. lived here.

>> under all of that, >> that's when things became complicated. I. think that was kind of the start. Now. that I look back, that was kind of the. start of the demise of the marriage. >> I dated a New York athlete and I do. remember, don't. >> I need to Google you [laughter] later. >> Don't do that. Um, but I do think that. there's something people always say like. if you can make it in New York as an. athlete, you can make it anywhere. But I. think there's also a different. connotation of like, yeah, cuz it's the. hardest to deal with and it comes with a. lot. >> scrutiny and the media and the press and.

just everything. It is it is really, really hard. That's not the only reason. things didn't work out, but things got. tough with New York and like you were. saying, just constantly being under the. spotlight, people watching every little. thing. And then, you know, being in New. York, I don't know, like Denver was so. like laidback. New York, it's like I got. to get on my grind. Then I started. really like going to overdrive with my. career and wanting things to go that. way. So, it's like he's doing his thing, I'm doing mine. It just. >> And how old were you guys when you met? How did you meet?

>> So, it's so funny. There was a DJ named. DJ Clue that um yeah, shout out Clue who. was like, "I got this. >> guy who really wants to meet you. He's. seen you on MTV before.". >> And he's 19 years old. I was like, "Okay, 19." At that time I was what? 22. Yeah. I was just like, "That's kind of. young." I mean, when you're when you're. you know, okay, what happens is here's. how it goes. >> Mhm. >> Cuz this is what I'm finding. I don't.

understand this. This is how it goes, okay? When you're younger, you want to. date older guys. And I'm not saying when. you get older, you want to date younger. guys. But when you get older, only. younger guys want to date you. It's the. wildest thing. Literally, guys will DM. me or want to take me out and I'll. Google them. I'll be like, "You're 22. years old. Like, what? How? Like, how. does this work?" But like so confident, so like I want to take you out. I I I.

think you're amazing. And I'm just like, >> when's what's the cut off? Like I don't. know the cut off. I'm just saying what. is the cut off? >> No, it's a real thing. >> But okay, [clears throat] but we got to. go back. We'll get to that. >> Yeah, because we do have. >> But I don't get what this thing is like. >> No, it's a real thing. >> The older you get, the younger the guys. get. And it's wild. But [snorts] okay, so he was 19 and I was like, cool. And I. was like, I don't want to be with an. athlete back then. Even back then, I was. like, I'll never be I never never never. should have listened to. >> What was your type at the time? >> Street guys. just guys that I probably.

shouldn't be with either, but that was. more my flow. I love a street guy back. then. Not anymore, guys. So, um. [laughter]. um I was like, I just don't want to. But. we became friends. And that's the thing. We were friends for a while, and then. the friendship turned into more. And we. had some great times. I mean, we have a. beautiful son, Cayenne, who's amazing. Like, it wasn't all bad. Like, we had. great great times. It ended bad, but. we're still, you know, friends and we. co-parent great. So, it wasn't all bad. And I think that, you know, life is just. about lessons and going through.

different phases. And that was like a. phase in my life, a chapter in my life. And now, um, that chapter's over, but. it's never really over when you have a. kid with somebody. >> What was your biggest misconception. about dating an athlete? Because I was I. always like to write my questions and. then think, what would the [ __ ] my. answer be? >> Take my glasses off now. Back back to. >> back to Okay. Um, no misconceptions cuz. everything I thought turn like you want. to be like, oh, they're not all like. this or all like that. Like, and I'm. like, >> wow. Yeah. >> Check, >> check, >> check. >> Cuz [clears throat] my thought when I. was writing that, I was like, okay, my.

misconception was. >> in the like not committed dating phase, I found that I was stressed always like. if I don't fly in, like who's he going. to be with? Whatever. And then once I. was his girlfriend and it was committed, I thought I was like, I'm going to sleep. better at night. I'm going to be like, I. never slept. >> I think there I never slept. >> You're like, don't get it twisted. I may. look amazing, but I did not sleep. you. know, and I didn't I almost got more. stressed once we committed because I.

felt like, >> oh my god, now everyone's coming for me. Like people are It was just more It was. I guess it was my misconception. I. thought, "Oh, lock it down and I'm going. to be I'm sleeping beauty.". >> It never ends. It never ends. And then. what you'll find is like I It's so. funny. I used to think like certain. cities I would be like, "Oh, those are. the problem cities." like Miami, I'll be. like, "Oh, I'm definitely not sleeping. tonight or I'm going to figure out a way. to get there." But here's what I found. out, dear.

>> Be careful with these other cities that. you think don't have as much going on. because those are the ones, guys. >> Mhm. >> Where the [ __ ] is going down. >> It gets worse. >> I'm like, nothing is happening in. Kentucky or. >> That's how I would feel. So those are. the nights I would sleep a little. [laughter]. >> and all of a sudden you're like, "Oh no, there's a whole ass girlfriend there. Miami, it's just like let's club. Let's. go hang out." There is like a whole ass. [ __ ] girlfriend. I'm like,

>> "Have you been here before? Have you. been here before?" You get it. So yeah, >> it's it is a wild I love the the sleep. concept is a good way to describe it. You will be sleepless nights. And. ladies, we don't need that. >> And I'm not gonna I can't generalize. everyone. I'm just talking about what I. went through and people I know, but I'm. sure, you know, they're great. relationships. I mean, my best friend is. married to an athlete and they have. Sierra and Russell, an incredible bond. Something I've never seen before. I'm so. happy to even witness it because it.

makes me feel like, oh, wow, that type. of love does exist. Cuz. >> I I didn't think it did for a long time. I'm like, no way. So, it's not across. the board. Yeah. Yeah. But. >> I can only also speak to my. >> Yeah, totally. What was the culture of. the wives and the girlfriends? Because I. remember my experience and since I was a. girlfriend, people were like, "Well, you're not shit." And I was like, "I. know." Like, "Sorry." And I thought like. at first cuz there were a couple like.

head women that were like married that. one was so nice to me cuz she was like, "I don't give a [ __ ] about you. Like. you're just here and whatever. Maybe you. won't be the next week." or another. woman that you don't even know is. sitting over there and he's she's also. with him. I'm like, but then there were. some that were like aggressive to let me. know like, "Bitch, you don't have a ring. on your finger. You're not shit." Like, what was your experience with. >> Well, I was a girlfriend for a long. time. I I didn't become a wife till way. later. So, I didn't really experience. that. Like, you just have the people you. gravitate to like you said with you and.

the people that you're cordial with and. that's it. So, I just found like my. crew, whatever it whoever that was on. respective teams are like, "She's really. cool. I want to hang out with her." But. I tried to be cool. >> with everybody, but there's levels to. being cool. Like, there's the distant. like, "Hey." Then there's the call me. later. Then there's the I [ __ ] HATE. HIM. I'M COMING TO SPEND THE NIGHT AT. YOUR HOUSE. There's different like. levels of cool. So, I just try to be, you know, cordial. And then I just had. my kind of groups. Mhm. No, I appreciate.

you saying that cuz I eventually found. my group. Day one I was like, "Hello." I. [laughter] was like, "I'm going to go. sit with the fans. Like, they'll be. nicer." And then I think by the I would. say like, yeah, a couple months in, I. found like my crew of like, oh, this is. my drinking buddy. And then I had the. woman that was like. >> found out he's like being shady. What do. I do? And so I'm interested to know like. do you think there was a culture of like. turning a blind eye to cheating within. the NBA or even just in sports in. general?

>> Not for me cuz when I saw it or found. out about it and I have to worry about. my own relationship then I dealt with it. like. >> I can't my [ __ ] was falling apart. I. can't worry about what everybody else. has going like I got to worry I got to. save myself. Like my relationship you. know we're two parents to my son. I got. to make sure we're good. So that's where. my focus was. But I never turned a blind. eye to it. I I addressed it and. ultimately. >> that that was part of the reason why I. could no longer be in in the. relationship anymore. >> How would you handle cuz I would get.

like messages. >> This is like therapeutic for me. Sorry. I'm like, "So, how would you deal with. this?" Cuz there's women that would. message and it's like sometimes it's not. true and sometimes it's true. And like. if you would have women reach out like. how did you handle that? I think that. yes, sometimes it's not true, sometimes. it's true, but there's always something. inside us that knows like. >> I would see stuff and be like, >> he's not an angel, but no way. But then. there will be things that you're just.

like a little too much information or a. little something that you're just like, I don't know, like you kind of feel it. and maybe I wasn't always right, but you. just kind of. >> can know. Yeah. Your gut and. >> you gota got to follow that. Yeah. I. think a lot of times my advice to anyone. when you get those messages because. social media just I guess I was going to. say [ __ ] all of us. I guess it helps. us, >> right? It's both. It's both. >> It's like let's not publicly let my life. be over, but like slide in the DMs and. let me know. Like obviously there's been.

situations where people don't need to. take it public, but I do appreciate the. message. Like I'm never going to be. >> But everyone doesn't though. Some people. like what do they say? Um. >> ignorance is bliss. Like some people. like I'm happy how I am. Like as long as. it's not directly affecting me or I. don't feel directly disrespected, then. I'm cool. I don't judge anybody. Everybody has their way. But some people. don't. Like if you're having the most. incredible day and your relationship. feels great. Like who wants to go in. their DM and just see people that are. miserable and want to see these.

relationships fail be like, "Oh, you. know, I saw your guy the other night. doing whatever." Like, some people don't. don't want to want to deal with that. And I think we're getting to the point. now where it's too much access. Like. everyone has something to say about. everything. Everyone feels like they can. be anywhere. They can see anything. Like. I don't need to know everything. That's. my point. Like I don't need to know. everything. I'm not dumb. I'm not naive. I don't need to know everything. Like. what I'm supposed to know, I'll find. out. But I'm going just going to keep. living my days, enjoying my life. Not. like, okay, so on edge or what today? I.

don't like feeling on edge. Like I don't. like the feeling of like, oh my god, okay, who's what are they saying? I I. can't I can't deal with that. That [ __ ]. will I'll be a nervous wreck. Like I. don't want to live like that. Do you. feel now that you're kind of out of it. and again like. >> every relationship has such goods and. such bads but even us joking in the. beginning of like the sleep I lost. >> I do think there's something and I had. an insight of like wow like. >> I didn't need to I don't need to feel. that way. I don't need to constantly. like be calculating like this day.

they're going here this day they're. going like you almost aren't able to. completely live your life if you're. constantly trying to track them down. And imagine how little they think of you. doing it. They're not stressed. They're. they're they are sleeping really well. They don't even need melatonin. They're. like, "Good night. I'm in Miami." Like, so I think there's something of like if. you have that feeling ever, it shouldn't. be ignored. I know it's hard, but it's. just people listening. Like I think. sometimes when you have that like shitty. feeling in your stomach and it's.

constant, um it's something I look back. and I'm like, I guess I knew. >> Yeah. you you know and then like there. is a piece in like listen it's pros and. cons to everything being single single. now yes do I sleep better at night I. don't have to worry about somebody. cheating on me doing whatever but then. I'm lonely sometimes like I want to be. laid up with somebody or I want to worry. about if somebody's cheating on me or. not want to have somebody to be like so. it's like it's it's pros and cons like. when you're in a relationship you're. like oh if I was single it would be so. it's it's pros and cons to both my mom.

always says and I'm sure she's heard it. from a lot of people but like single. single people want to be married and. married people want to be single. Like. you're never fully happy in anything. that you're doing. So you just got to. figure out your happiness whether you're. in a relationship or out and realize. that the happiness shouldn't revolve. only around the relationship because if. you're like constantly looking for. happiness because of your relationship. or because of another person, I feel. like that's when you'll always be. disappointed. Call Her Daddy is brought. to you by Ashley. Okay, Daddy gang. [music] Your home is where so much of.

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was just thinking back to something you. said about like not stressing about what. like you couldn't worry because like. you're worried about your relationship. and people like I think something we. should all take I like personally have. realized this is like I talk into a. microphone. every week and there's some [ __ ] that. I've said in my past that I'm like [ __ ]. like I wish I didn't say that about that. person cuz I feel like recently it's. really come to be obvious that like. >> people's relationships fail succeed and.

And then we watch this influx of people. on the internet making these videos of. like this is my opinion on it. And what. I think we all know if you look inside. of your relationships, no one [ __ ]. knows what's inside and going on. >> Everyone will tell you, excuse. [clears throat] me, everyone will say. >> what they'll do until they're in the. situation. That's why it's all [ __ ]. When you're out of when you're not in. the situation, you can hyper analyze. You can this, you can that. Oh, if I was. her, I would do this. Until you're. there, then it's a whole different. ballgame. So, I don't feed into any of.

that and I don't ever want to be that. person for someone else's relationship. I always say, "Whatever you decide, I. will support you. This is my advice and. opinion on it as someone who's been. there. But whatever you you want to do, I support you and I just leave it at. that.". >> Someone needs to come to a conclusion on. their own. And if anything, they're. going to resent you as a friend. If you. told them to leave, they're going to. resent anyone but themselves. And it's. like, let them do their thing cuz timing. for people is so different. And so, I. don't know. I just think everyone. listening like I hold myself accountable. of like saying dumb [ __ ] about like.

celebrities in the past of like what. >> like as if I knew like just shut the. [ __ ] up and because if someone did that. about my relationship I'd be like you. guys have no idea. So I think it's just. a good wakeup call. We have too much. access to give our opinion on stuff. Write it in your group chat. Exactly. >> Write it in the goddamn group. >> And a lot of times people give an. opinion because it makes them feel. better about their situation. >> Absolutely. >> Like oh they're just like me or she's. not all that or whatever it is. Like No, >> they get like happiness out of seeing. someone else being miserable. And that's. just that's definitely not the kind of.

person I am. >> I would love to hear just your. opinion on how you know when it like. you're ready to end something cuz I. think ending a relationship is so. [ __ ] hard. You ended your marriage. Like how did you know it was time? >> Time. Um same thing kind of what I said. about the friendship when I was no. longer feeling great about it. sad every. day, crying, like just feeling somewhat. lost, not feeling loved the right way. I'm like, this I don't want this to be.

for the rest of my life. And I don't. want my son I have to be an example to. my son seeing me, you know, sad or. whatever. Like, I didn't want that. And. I was like, this is just not feeling. good anymore. And there was a lot of. things that had been done. And I was. just like, I got to move on from this. M. do you think that if you weren't in the. public eye, would you have handled the. situation at all differently? >> Um I would have still made the same. decision, but it would have been less.

maybe pressure or less eyes on me like. what's she going to do? >> People are saying this and is this true. or whatever it is. I think it would have. been less pressure maybe. But I do think. I still would have came to the same. conclusion because some boundaries were. crossed that I just couldn't. >> What's something that you've learned. about yourself since the divorce? >> I learned how strong I am. Like you. said, when you hear friends going. through stuff, it's like, I'm never. going to make it through. I'm never. going to survive. And then all of a. sudden, you wake up and you're like, wait, I'm actually surviving. Like, and.

I'm not saying it's not hard. Like I say. it all the time there. There's still. very difficult moments. It's not one of. those things where it's just ever just. like super easy cuz again there's a. child involved, you know, my son. So, >> but you just find yourself getting. stronger and stronger and it's like. >> what do they say? Like you don't know. how strong you are until being strong is. your only option? Like what is it going. to do? Die? Like I had to keep pushing. on and then every day like a little bit. stronger, a little bit stronger, a. little bit stronger until you're finally. like wow I can do this. Well, I really.

respect that, too, cuz I think listen, >> when you're betrayed or burned, like. it's so [ __ ] hard not to. [clears throat] be petty. And it is. like, oh, [ __ ] you don't even. know who you're messing with. And I. think that I'm sure like I really. respect that you have that outlook of. like, I have a son, right? >> And it's like. >> that holds you almost probably. accountable to be like, >> yeah. And then I don't want to do. something and look back like you said. and be like, why did I do that? Or it. wasn't even worth it. It made me feel. good in that moment. Like the people who.

need to know know and that's it. That's. it for me. Like I don't have to like put. people on blast or like make people feel. like [ __ ] Like obviously. what happened was bad enough. I don't. need to add anything else. >> Has your view of love changed? >> Yes, it has. And and I hate to say that. I hate that that's what happened, but it. has. And I have my friends like, "You. can't say that." Like I don't I'm just. like. >> I just don't know if it's in the cards. for me and they were like why would you. say that? You can't I've said it before.

like you can't say that but it's like. >> I don't know that's how you feel. You. just feel like I don't even want to do. this [ __ ] again or like let's just be. friends forever. Like once you start. going to a different place it gets so. complicated. But I do think there's. power in words and you have to manifest. what you want. So me being negative. about it is not good. So, I'm working on. saying like, you know, what's meant for. me will be and. >> someone's gonna find me one day and love. me the right way. >> Can we agree that I actually [ __ ].

hate when I go through a breakup and my. friends are like, "You're now going to. get to find the love of your life.". >> Oh, yeah. No, I don't like that. I'm. depressed. I morning and you should be. and you should you should be okay with. that. Like, >> I'm like that too cuz I press like and. it's like that's just not what I want to. hear right now. Maybe eventually, but. right now, I just want you to BE LIKE, >> "YEAH, >> [ __ ] EVERYBODY. I HATE EVERYONE." LIKE, just be in this moment with me right. now. Tomorrow, we can talk about. something different, but right now,

let's just have this moment. >> Wait, I don't need the hype up. Like, put on the sad music. Let's sob. I. wanted to be depressed. I want to have a. pity party. [laughter]. >> I think everyone should have like a day. or two of that. Like, you deserve that. But then it's like, "All right, snap out. of it now." But I do think there's a. good thing of like it would be. unrealistic for you to immediately be. like. >> I'm great because that means you're. really don't really feel that. >> Exactly. So it's helpful I think to keep. it realistic. Like you said you are. honest with your friends. Maybe you're. being a little too honest with yourself.

You're like love doesn't exist. Everybody [ __ ] love. We're all alone in. this world. Even if you think they love. you, they don't. [laughter]. God. But then I'm like, but I'm so happy for. you. You found the one. >> No, no, but I I do appreciate I. appreciate your realness with it cuz. it's like I hate when it's just the. upside and the positive. >> But you know what it is? I realize. everyone's take on that is going to be. based on an experience. So if you had a. great experience and you're in a. relationship, when I'm in a. relationship, you can't tell me. anything. I'm like, what? What do you.

mean? Relationships are the best. Like. what are you talking about? And then. when it's done, I'm like, [ __ ]. everybody. So, it's like it just depends. on where that person you're talking to. is at in their life now or not. And I. respect everyone in different phases of. of their life. I have friends that are. happily married. Um, you know, whether. it's Sierra, Kelly, like very happily. married. And I look at that and I'm. like, "Wow, I I I want that. I would. love to have that." Then I have friends. that are single like myself and and. living life or friends that just got out.

of relationships. Like, everybody's at. different phases. I'm going to have you. on in like two years and you're going to. be like I've literally never been more. in love. Like life is so good and you're. going to be like hearts in the eyes. Like relationships [laughter] are for. everyone and you guys can definitely. find a It's like You're right. It. changes. It. >> changes. >> But right now we're like. >> right now I'm just. >> No, [ __ ] that. >> Are you dating? >> Not really to be honest. Like people. think like. >> I'm just like out here like I know you.

can have anyone you want and you're. doing this and that. Like not really. because the guys that try to talk to me. are 21 and 22 years old. >> Let's talk about that because shout out. to my spray tan woman. You're the most. amazing woman, Britney. God bless you. And she was telling me how. >> everyone younger is coming after her. She's like, "Do I have a sign on my. head?" Like, but what she thought was. interesting was she was like, "I have. these guys that are my age that like. aren't really [ __ ] doing it for me. and putting in the work." And this. 22year-old is like, "Let me fly you out.

Let me buy you dinner." She's like, "CAN. YOU AFFORD TO FLY ME OUT?" LIKE, "What. the [ __ ] is going on?" But she was like, "It's crazy. They're just coming after. me.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But maybe it's a good feeling for a. second. >> No, it is a good feeling. I mean, look, I it's I I honestly I don't know. I'm. going to be I'm telling you, I don't. know anything about relationships. anymore. I am done giving relationship. advice. Even to myself, I don't know. What I do know is I'm going with the. flow. Like, I'm not dating anyone. currently. I'm not anything serious. currently, but if someone wants to take.

me out and I'm like, "All right, cool.". I'm not just going to say before I would. be like, "No, like what's the angle? What's the this?" I'm trying to be like. more open about it. And whatever happens. happens. >> How do you deal with like a date? Like. would you go to a p like you can't go to. a public joint? >> Well, it depends. Like. >> if you want to be seen with them, >> I mean, yeah, that then it just kind of. depends. Like I don't know. At first, I. wouldn't want to be like out too public. cuz you want to fill it out first and. make sure it's But friendships are. friendships. Like I'm allowed to be. friends with people like and girls and.

guys can go out and it could be platonic. or you can just be getting to know. somebody like everything is not so heavy. and like. >> if you don't go to public place then. where do you go? Come to my house, come. to the hotel room. That to me that's. even more heavy like. >> No, no, no, no. That's that that is a. >> So it's like for the first date like. meet me at the hotel room so no one sees. us. This is kind of like. >> this is sketch. >> Yeah. Like what tone are you setting. right now? I don't know. Look, I told. you I don't know. I'm just going with. the flow. And everybody's different.

Like you can meet somebody and and be. like, >> "All right, I'm cool going out to. whatever restaurant with this person.". And you might not even know why. It's. just a feeling you have. Then you can. meet somebody else and be like, "Oh, no. I don't want nobody to see us out.". Like, >> I don't know. It's just a feeling. It's. not like a What I'm saying is not a. one-sizefits-all. >> Would you ever date an athlete again? >> [gasps]. >> Um, would I date an athlete again? I. don't know. Um, I don't. probably not a basketball player.

>> Probably not a basketball player. >> Okay. Football. Let's go. Here we go. [laughter] That That is fun. >> Not basketball. Probably not. I mean, I. don't know. We're probably. >> not basketball. >> And football is Look at me like already. >> Wait. I'm like, do you HAVE SOMEBODY? CUZ YOU'RE SO YOU GOT SO EXCITED. [laughter] I'M LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON? >> LIKE THE SCHEDULE'S BETTER. Less less. sleepless nights. >> A better world that you're. >> No, no, but I I I'm just thinking for. you. Like I want you to find love. I.

don't have anyone for you, but if I do, I'll [ __ ] text you and be like, I got. this. I got this. But I do think there's. something about um Yeah, we're done with. the NBA. >> But you know, other sports could we. could entertain. Exactly. >> Are you on dating apps? >> No, I'm not on dating apps. Although I. have a lot of friends on Rya and this. and that and they love it and they're. dating. I don't I haven't got there yet. Again, no judgment. It's working for a. lot of people I know. As a matter of. fact, my dad married the woman he met on. a dating app. So, I've seen where it can. work. Like my dad married her.

>> from plentyofish.com, which I was told. was an app specifically for something. else. Think sex. But they hit it off and. they got married. So, I know it can. work. I just haven't ventured there yet. >> Okay, that's fair. Would you let your. friend set you up with someone? >> 100%. That's Yes, that's the best way. because I feel like my friend knows me, knows what I like. That's the best way. I think getting hooked up with somebody. like that is the best way. Like friends. being like, "Hey, I'm bringing so and so. or you got to meet LA like you would. love her or whatever." Like that's the. best way to.

>> What friend do you think would know your. type the most and like you're like, "Okay, I trust you.". >> Um, all of them, but I think all of them, but Kim would be really good at that. all of them. But she would be good at. that. Also, cuz she's single now, too. So, it's like it's different. Like, you. know, we can talk a little bit more. about like what do we like, what do we. not like, like what are we looking for, what are we not looking for? Like, it. it's different. >> I think it's good to have a friend like. that so knows you because I also feel. like Kim's the type of person that like. she's like, "Let me do the work for you,

then you just show up at the date. I'm. going to do a whole background check. Just sit down, sweetie, and you can. count on me that they will be the right. person for you." You're like, "Thanks, Kim." Um, it's about. >> what is something after like everything. you've been through, what is like a. non-negotiable that you've learned about. yourself that you're like, I have to. have this in a relationship and like I. can't also deal with that in a. relationship for your next. >> I think I definitely have to have like. family element, meaning someone that's. into family, loves like hanging out with. fam. That's like important to me.

Someone that laughs. Like I want to have. fun. I want to like laugh. Like the. world is so serious. Like I just want to. laugh and have a good time. That's. important to me. And then like something. I won't tolerate. Um. I won't tolerate lying. Like liars. I'm. just like no matter what it is, I'll. respect you more if you're just honest. and tell me. I could deal with that. But. the lying [ __ ] like I I can't I just. can't take it. As we wrap up, >> I think that like you've been through so. much relationships, career, your life.

What is something that you like wish you. could tell your younger self? Like if. you had a second to be like, "Oh my god, wait. I've gone through all these. experiences. If I lived life, what would. you tell your younger self?" That no. matter what you do, everyone's not going. to like you. Like I'm such a people. pleaser. I'm a cancer. I keep saying. that. So like we love people. We want to. be loved by everybody. And it's like why. don't you not like me? You don't even. know me. Like I stopped I I stopped. caring about that. Like no matter what I. do, people are going to have something. to say about it. All the good I do,

something's going to be said. Whatever I. wear, something's going to be said. It. doesn't matter. It's just like what it. is. And you have to realize that no. matter what you do, you can't please. everybody. You have to like find your. own happiness and please yourself. And. it sounds like so cheesy, but it's just. so true cuz like especially with. Instagram and all the social media, it's. like you look at what people are saying. and you're like, well, why are they. saying that? They don't even know me. Or. why don't they just ask me instead of. just trying to put some [ __ ] on blast on. the internet. But you just realize that. it doesn't matter. It's always going to. happen. So you have to find your own. happiness.

>> Amen. and scene. >> You're amazing and it was really cool to. get to feel your personality. So good. So the daddy gang is going to love you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I can't. wait to watch your Yeah. >> And find me a man. Goodbye. So the NFL. player I was talking about [laughter]. [music]. [music].