Kylie Kelce: Stop Calling Me a WAG (Full Episode)

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. Kylie Kelce, welcome to Call Her Daddy. so much. How are you doing? We're hot. Sweaty and. pregnant. I tell everybody everyone will. like say, "Oh, you're glowing." And I'm. like, "No, I'm sweating because I'm. either nauseous or it's too hot in. here.". You look amazing, though. Thank you so much. This is like I'm not trying to gas you. up, but you have the most gorgeous skin.

That is very kind. No, because when I met Okay, so we've. met before. We met on the sidelines at. the Eagles game. Was that 2 weeks ago? 2. weeks ago. That was such a [ __ ] good game. it was 3 weeks ago now because of the. Pro Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 3. weeks ago. That was such an insane game. The snow, all of it. But I remember we. met for the first time and that was my. first impression of you. I was like, "Why is her skin so perfect?" So, You are far too kind. Far too kind. I'm so happy we're doing this. I think. people are going to freak the [ __ ] out. that we're getting to sit down together. I hope so. I think so.

They're like, "This is actually. Otherwise, I'm so sorry to the Call Her. Daddy audience. The Daddy Gang's like, "What the fuck?" No, people are going to. be excited. First of all, just to give. context, we are sitting in these like. horrid amazing recliner chairs. Thank god my husband didn't come. Why? He would have been like, "Can How fast. can you ship these back to our house?". No. This is This is my husband's style. chair. I They're actually so [ __ ]. ugly. But they But they swallow you up. Yeah, oh, they're cozy. And I do. That's all he cares about. By the end, we could recline. Oh, perfect.

Yeah, yeah, we can like get cozy. We're. going to start professional and then. we're going to kick it. swelling. I got this. Okay, we're going. to We're going to get our feet elevated. But I got this set up for us and I was. like, "It's ugly, but it is indicative. of where we are. We're in New Orleans. Super Bowl is tomorrow.". I feel like you've probably been to a. lot of Super Bowls, right? Yes. What is the most like. like favorite memory you have of a Super. Bowl? Anything. I mean, I would love to say Minnesota, but I. don't have that many memories because I. blacked out.

Classic. Can you give some context to. people that aren't familiar with what. you're talking about? Yeah, so the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Super Bowl 52 in Minnesota. And. it was incredible. It was. I mean my husband was the center at the. time. It was unreal to watch. And also. I'm from Philadelphia, so I knew what it. meant to the city. But. the stress like even thinking about it. is making me sweat again. The stress of watching him play.

knowing what it meant to the city. and also that we hadn't had one. I grew. up in Pennsylvania and so like being. it. I get it. And we've been through a. lot. And and Philly fans. we are it's aggressive. That's a very nice way to say it. Really? How would Yeah, yeah, how would. you describe Philly fans? I mean we're. appalling and I say we because like I. fully embrace the fact that it's all of. us. You partake. I mean there are sometimes. where I think fans like specifically.

Philly fans get a bad rap Yeah. because. of viral moments. I do not claim them. Mhm. Although there was a little kid who like. tapped someone on the shoulder or. something at a game and then just like. flipped him the bird and I was like. I do claim that. You're like actually I. love that I can donate I actually love. that child. Obviously your husband's. retired now, but when he was playing. what was the energy like in your. household on game day? Horrific. Okay, walk me through it. I mean I.

I would like start like manifesting. superstitions as if that was going to. help like always put my left shoe on. before my right. Make sure that like certain things if I. needed to switch spots while the game. was happening that I did that. There was. one game where I was folding laundry for. our girls. It was a late night game and I bent down. next to the laundry basket and suddenly. there was like a really good run and I. was like, well, now I'm crouching next.

to a laundry basket and for the rest of. the game, which was like 30 to 40. minutes, I crouched next to the laundry basket. Your daughter's like, "Mom, I need to. somewhere. I sent it to my other friend. who is another wife of a player and was. like, "Am I squatting next to a laundry. basket? Yes. Am I going to stop? No.". No. Are we going to win? Yes. Did they. win? Yes. Period. it's because I was crouching next to the. laundry basket, but I'm not willing to. risk it. Absolutely not. what I'm saying? I Logically. I love the.

energy. You're like, if this is working, we're going to [ __ ] keep with it. We. Are you now still doing that though for. the Eagles? Like even now that he's not. playing, are you still giving the. To some degree. Okay. You've won everything. really. Yes. Okay. Okay. And honestly, I think it's. mostly just because during games, like. my kid Like I'm not going to the stadium. anymore for home games. And so then like I basically tell. like I have to like help my kids with. things and they pull me out. going? Like is it sad? No. No. Oh, okay.

No. No. Because I get to say all of the. expletives that I would like to say in. the comfort of my living room. And no. one gets to film you doing it. That's. right. Who do you think would get more. nervous before game, you or him? Me. You. You're freaking out. I don't think that he really got. nervous. Really? No. I mean, I guess that makes sense, right? He did it for 13 years. Like. Yeah, that's How do you feel about his. flip-flops? I'm so used to them, it. doesn't even faze me. I do think it's. funny that there's a population of women. that are like, "That's the most. appalling thing I've ever seen." And I'm.

out here like, Really? Really? That's. what That's what a turn-off is? I. actually like that he kind of rolls in. himself. disturbed at the fact that they can see. his toes and I'm like, I've seen worse. toes. I'm okay with it. I live with. those toes. Like I've seen them up. I sleep next to those toes. Why would I. be disturbed with it? up against me occasionally. That's a good answer. Um okay, your. podcast. Yes. First of all, not going to lie, congratulations. It is. Thank you. so [ __ ] refreshing and incredible to. see a woman up on the charts doing her.

thing. How have you been feeling about. it all? It's It's interesting to talk to myself. Yeah. Um I absolutely. love the audience that I'm hitting now. Um I'm so happy that it's settled into. the demographic that it was intended. for. Like it was intended for women. Um. so sorry, men. Um I have had quite a few. men tell me that they listen, That's right. which I think is lovely. But um it's it's not It's It's meant for.

It's meant for who it's meant for. And. um I wanted it to settle into that. Like. you want to hit the listeners. who you're intending. Um okay, I'm going to ask you some. questions and you're going to have to. tell the truth because obviously you're. not going to lie. I love this. Let me. Dab my upper lip. dab the upper lip. You don't look like. you're sweating. That's really great. because I'm pretty sure I have like ass. like it's pulling at my ass. That's the worst when you're wearing. jeans and somehow you see the sweat. through the jeans. That's what's about to happen. You have.

the [ __ ] sweat. I'm never going to. look. I'll moon your camera before you leave. And you wore a cable knit [ __ ]. sweater. To be fair, I was so comfy when I. started walking and the sun here is just. Well, it's humid out there. I'm not even. mad about it. Okay. Because I'm pretty sure there's. like a snow day back in Philadelphia. right now. I agree. Okay, what is the fastest way. to piss you off? Oof. Lie. When people lie, I'm I'm like what for. what purpose? I I'm not an overly.

sensitive person. I It takes like. like a lot for me to be bothered by. something. I grew up in a house where. like picking on each other was fun. Yeah. So like I can take it. When people lie, I'm like, for what? What did that do for. you? What is the most humbling thing. that your daughters have said to you. recently? Oh my god. Uh your belly's. big. No. Yes. What do you say when they say that? because mom is growing a human being. That's why mom's belly is big.

Uh yeah, they'll they'll humble you all. the time. Like my our youngest it's not. not too long ago, maybe a couple weeks. ago, looked right at me and was like, uh. boobs. And I was like, yes. This was in. the morning. I just got out of the. shower. I'm like, getting dressed. She's. sitting on the bed and she goes, boobs? And I said, yes. And she goes, a baby? And I was like, Okay, guys, there is a human being One. of you. is in here. I'm trying to give you a sibling. Yeah. Oh my god. And it's going to be four?

Yes, four. But like four girls is. better than four boys. When I meet boy moms, I'm like, God. bless you. I don't I don't Even my mother-in-law, like my mother-in-law has told me horror. stories of. There is a story about my husband when. he was little going out in the front. yard. and. Donna, my mother-in-law, Yeah. heard someone go, he has a knife. He was in the front yard with the. kitchen knives throwing them up in the. air to see if they would stick in the.

front lawn. Okay, but do you think that. younger years it's harder with four. boys, but then when you're when the. girls get to like high school? Oh, I already told my husband he can. move out as long as he visits me. That's what I told him. You have to. visit me, but you can move out. Like I'm. prepared to take the hit. Do you realize cuz you know how you were. like in high school? Yes. And I know how I was like in high. school. Yes. And no matter what barometer you. were at, whether you were crazy or. normal, like girls in high school, that. [ __ ] is horrible.

say the only thing worse than high. school girls is middle school girls. Period. Yes. What is the craziest rumor you've. ever heard about yourself? Oh. The boy one is the most the most. frequent. I don't know if it's crazy. that I'm that we're having a boy. Huh. Or that we tried for a boy. Interesting. Why do you think people are saying that? Because they really want us to have a. boy. Um I will say there is this there was. this moment when we found out we were. having our fourth girl where I was like, "We've always said we wanted four kids.". I'm like, "Maybe maybe I won't get to.

meet a little Jason." Which was a little. bit weird. Yeah. But at the same time I'm like, "If we. had a boy. at this point, I'm good. I've gone this long without. getting peed on when I open a diaper. I'm trying to keep that streak alive.". Maybe we're like good with one Jason. One Jason is enough. think that's what the universe has said. How do you feel about the word wag? I. don't like it. Why? Um I don't like it. because I think it has a serious.

negative connotation attached. Um I. think that it's the suggestion that your. spouse's profession swallows you up as. well. And um I have made a serious effort to. make sure that and both Jason I have. made a serious effort to make sure that. while he was playing that it was clear. that that was his job. Interesting. Um in the same way that someone would go. to work and come home and not. necessarily talk about. their entire day, you're filing taxes, you're do you're doing spreadsheets.

Like you're not coming home and telling. your spouse about like the spreadsheet. you worked out. I agree. Like I think. that now what I appreciate is even like. I was telling you before this like. speaking to the WAGs yesterday, I. appreciate how people are being more. vocal about like what they do. independently. And I think sometimes it. can freak people out when it's like, "Wait, you're just Even if you are like. holding down the household." It's like. people don't understand that these women. do have their own independent lives with.

their husband obviously. And I think. people like to just be like, "No, your. your husband is just like an NFL player. So, you just like are in it for the. money or the fame or whatever." And it's. like, "No, these are like real humans. with real lives and feelings and. And the vast majority, it's it's so. funny to me cuz it's like it is that. stigma of like you're with them because. they make a lot of money or like you. want designer bags or you want you live. in a mansion. And it's like No. No. I like there have been a number of. people who have come to our house and. they're like, "Oh.".

I'm like. Again, not easily offended. I'm like, "Yep, that's what you get." Well, now. that you said your husband would want. these chairs, I'm I'm getting an image. They would fit. Well, they fit in your. Okay. I love you. I love you. Okay, what. is a weird item that is always in your. bag? That's a good question. Mhm. Um. for a while. uh because I was doing. uh like event consulting. I had zip ties in my.

Oh, that's weird. That's [ __ ] weird. Because when I The one day I realized. how weird it was when I went to get. something at like Chapstick or. something. And uh someone was like, "Is. that a zip tie?" And I was like, "Oh my. god, you think this is like kinky or. something it is.". I I it's so that signs don't fall down. I agree. If I saw that, I'd be like, "Kylie.". is wrong with you?". Kylie, what are you and Jason up to with. that headboard? Nothing. Nothing. I'm trying to keep signs on. walls, guys.

It's so yeah, that's weird. Not that. hot. I have since I have since moved on. They are no longer in my bag. That's probably a good look. What is. something you used to be embarrassed. about but you don't give a [ __ ] about. anymore? Oh, my height. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Tell me about. that. Um I. was 5'10" going into high school, taller. than every guy in my grade, um. which can really like set you up for. some weird. uh feedback from the opposite sex. What. did they say? Oh, I was a man. Like it.

was all of like the they felt. emasculated by the fact that I was. taller than them. Of course. By the time I got to like. senior year, I was like, you guys can go. [ __ ] yourselves. Truly. And then those. little like [ __ ] 5'8 squirts, you're. like, shut the [ __ ] up. best part is my dad is 6'9. So like when. I would. Your dad is 6'9? Yes. And my mom's only 5'2. So I've. never been. alarmed at either end of the height. spectrum. Oh, that's interesting. I never realized how tall I was until. people started picking on me about how. tall I was. It's so infuriating when boys are.

picking on you in middle school or high. school and you're like. it's so This is a you problem. Yes. You're so insecure and you're. looking at me and you're like, I'm. [ __ ] gorgeous. Get away from me. Oh, by senior year, I was like, you guys. can suck my ass. You're like, I'm going to wear heels to. prom. at it. Oh, [ __ ]. It's mean. That was a good one. No, that. was good. Um okay, wait. Yeah, so you. grew up in Philadelphia. Yes. What were. you like as a kid? Uh well-behaved. I'm a rule follower. Really?

Big time rule follower. Oh, if someone's like, you can't go. there, I'm like, I can't go there. And. then like our team will be like, Kylie, you have to you have to say like you're. supposed to be in there. I wouldn't expect that. a rule follower. My husband is the. opposite. We really compliment each. other on that. He just bust through the. doors. He's like, a barrier? [ __ ] it. I. like I'm like if there's a sign that. says we can't. We're not allowed to do that. It's kind. of like me and my husband. Matt will. always be like, you just you have to act. like you know like you if you walk. straight through, no one's going to ask. you a question. god. I'm like, I don't.

have a pass. I can't go there. But it's like I feel like you can just. go in, but I never could. Okay, that's. Why do you think we're like that? I don't know. I'm I don't know if it's. I don't know. I get anxiety. Like kids in high school used to be. like, oh, I'm going to skip this class. and I would be like, my mom will find. out. My my 5'2 mother will find out. Wait, were your parents strict growing. up? Not really, no. I mean like like I. think at the time I would have said yes, but not really. I was like playing. sports, so like I wasn't going to house.

parties regularly because I was I was. had a field hockey tournament to get up. for it for the next day and What was. your social life like in high school? Trash. Wait, why? Yeah, I mean a little. I really like my field hockey team, my. club field hockey team were where I like. spent the most time on the weekends. Yeah. Um. I was not like a partier. I still I'm. not a partier. I really don't drink. I'm. a little hungover. Are you? Yeah. See, I love the idea of getting up. the next morning and being like, I can.

eat breakfast happily and like go about. my day. I love that feeling, too. And I. wish I felt like that. My husband, I feel like he had that. experience this morning and was like, "This is delightful." But for the last. like 4 days, we've been like, "Uh Are you alive?". Does he get hungover? I think he would. try he would like to say no, but he. does. He's lying. Um okay, did you ever date. in high school? No. No? No. You No. When did you have your first. kiss? Wha- Oh. Oh god. Ooh. Tell me. 5. days before my junior year of high.

school. That's so specific. Because I. was so alarmed by the fact that I was. going to be a junior in high school and. had never even like touched lips with. another human being. Wait, how did it happen? Uh. I just kissed a guy. walked up to him? He literally was like, "Oh, I'll come. over and hang out." And I was like, "You. can't come over and hang out like my. dad's here.". Okay, so you knew your first kiss in. high school. Yeah. junior year. Yeah. Who was your first boyfriend? When. I was when I graduated high school. What. did your parents think about him? He was. fine. He was okay. I mean, we I think we.

dated for like 3 months. Okay, but you. weren't dating like bad boys. Good guys? No. Good guys. I am not into like the. douche. That bothers me. That's good. Um like anything anyone. that's like. like trying to be cool, I'm like, "No.". You're disgusting. Get away. I mean my. husband was in competition jazz band in. high school. Like there is a even though. he's a jock, there's a degree of nerd. Yes, he was a saxophone a Barry sax. player and what like and that speaks to.

me. Like that that's. the fact that my husband like I make. jokes about my husband not being like a. Rico Suave like not being very smooth. like being terrible. Like he'll get hit. on by women and I'm like hello she's. hitting and he's like no she wasn't and. like I'm like You're so cute. That's what like that is. yeah. Okay, you ended up going to. Cabrini University. Yes. What was your. reputation on campus? Cuz that's a small. campus, right? Itty bitty. Tiny. The. athletes all stuck together so I feel.

like it was very close-knit. I had the. same thing. Like all of it just like. your family. Which is I think of like I. I always said whenever people ask me for. advice about going to college. I was. like even if you're not an athlete like. if you can get into a group, you are. going to thrive like I'm going to. [ __ ] the jazz club or whatever the. [ __ ] it is. Because then you have like 20 people. already that are your friends and I had. that immediately when I got in there and. then you don't feel like you're like a. floundering fish, right? Okay, did you. get into dating? I was dating someone in the beginning of.

college for like a couple years. I would go to parties and be like the. designated driver. Like I would make. sure I was like a mother hen. Like I. would make sure everyone got home. I still have like college teammates when. I see them they'll be like mom. Like. they don't call me by my first name. So. you've always kind of had that like. motherly energy about you. And when I. went to college I was the 21 year old. freshman transfer. Like I went to. community college first. So I was automatically like I was a. freshman that could get into bars. Legally. Because of course I was a rule.

follower and never had a fake ID. You never had a fake When I tell you. like a rule follower I mean a rule. follower. Okay, so what is like the most. trouble you've ever gotten in your life? Feel like I've been arrested actually. No, I know. I did jail time. No, I. You don't know that I went to prison. I'm like, what? That's so weird. You. want to see my prison tattoo? Do you not Have you never gotten in that. much trouble? No. The The worst is that I The worst that's. ever happened is like I got pulled over. for going like 40 in a 25. Oh my god,

Kylie. And I apologized profusely. Profusely. I can't even look at you. right now. I feel like a horrible. person. Okay. Um we're going to play a game. One. of your favorite phrases is I have no. business doing that. So, I'm going to. give you a scenario and you tell me if. you do it or you have no business doing. that. Dye your hair platinum blonde. No. business. Have you ever dyed your hair? I mean, I get highlights, but nothing. absolute I would you could no. You look You have really gorgeous hair.

That's very kind. Getting a matching. tattoo with Jason. No, I think that's a. jinx. You do. I have no business doing that. I. do Do you have a Do you have a matching. tattoo with your Absolutely not. Okay, good. You're Yeah, you're like, I think. that is such trash behavior. I'm And I'm. literally like, Right here, we got this. on our wedding. No, there are I've seen so many ones. where I'm like, that is the sweetest. little like hint of uh no. No. Do you have a tattoo? No. I don't. have any, either. I would I just It's. more of a commitment thing. Like I don't. I have still have not seen something.

where I'm like, I want that on my body. I feel the same exact way. I'm like, I Same, but I'm like, there's nothing. that I can even picture for a second. that I'd like, this needs to be on me. till I'm 90. Yes. I change my mind. I don't know what. I want, right? Me and college making a. decision of a tattoo? You'd have an infinity symbol. I would. hate myself. With a heart. And I would want you to bully me and be. like, why do you. That's just it. I don't The infinity. symbol, I Shout out to the girls that.

got it on a whim that are living that. are with infinity and beyond. That's it. Wait, does your husband have tattoos? He. does not. Does Travis have tattoos? I don't think. so. He Jason and Travis talked very. briefly about getting like their like. the Kelsey crest. Oh, interesting. Do you think it's going to happen? No. I don't think they should, but who am I. to say? I don't think they should. either. I like I'm not a tattoo person, but I I respect people that are. I think. that I love like women with like little.

dainty tattoos. I think they're so. sweet. I think that for a guy, you either need. to be fully committed. Like you need to. be tatted. Mhm. or none at all. Yeah, like lean in. or just stop. Moving on. Um. film a reality show about your family. No business. You would never ever Never. Here's the thing. You don't want to You don't want to be. in our. The reason it hasn't happened, we are. not that interesting. I tell people all. the time. You You catch me on a random.

Tuesday, we're going to be in the kitchen. coloring. I'm going to be yelled at. about snacks and filling water bottles. Someone's going to be screaming from. upstairs, "I'm done pooping." And I'm. like, "Okay.". That's actually true cuz can you Is it a. Is it weird for you that so many people. are like so fascinated with your lives? I feel I seriously I have like a. legitimate amount of guilt associated. with the fact that people are like, "You're amazing." And I'm like, "I'm. not.". like girl I'm so sorry to disap- When. people meet me and they're like, "I'm so. excited to meet you." I'm like, "I'm so.

sorry to let you down." Kylie. It's just like. what you mean. No, I think that is. something that's so crazy when you meet. You see people on the internet or in. tabloids or whatever the [ __ ] and you're. like you have this idea and then you. meet them. It's like guys, we're all. just like normal human beings. We're all. [ __ ] We're all dealing with life. Like we're all sweating. We have ass. sweat. put our We all put our sweaty pants on. the same way. Thank you. Would you ever. attend the Met Gala? No. Good god, no. I wear [ __ ] Chuck Taylors when I'm. supposed to dress up, okay? I.

What? No. god, Anna went towards quaking. Um, okay. She's like, but I sent you an. invitation. No, she would never. Um, would you ever throw a Phillies. first pitch? No, I have no business. doing that. Why? no business doing that. No, you don't. I'll be on the side I I'll take a ride. on the Philly Phanatic four-wheeler. You're not going to throw the ball. I'm not throwing the ball. Wait, you could throw it. Yeah, a. thousand I have full faith that I could. throw it. Okay. Um, would you ever go on. a silent wellness retreat?

Maybe. To ask me when I get back to my kids. Right now, I'm like, no. Yeah. But if I. when I get back to my kids, there might. be four days I'll be like, Alex, how. about that silent wellness Yeah, did you. have a connect for that? Where are we. going? Um, dress in disguise to hide. from paparazzi. No. I probably wouldn't. I'd just flip them off. Love. Love. You're honest. Um, renew. your vows. I don't really feel the need. to. It was only seven years ago. I know what.

I said. I kind of feel the same way. Maybe when. we hit like 20? Yeah. Yeah. 20? Do you think 20 or 30? Yeah. 30. feels like a milestone. I do think it. would be cool. with. I mean, we just had like a great time at. our wedding. It would be cool to like. get everybody back together. Oh, that. would be fun. Wait, where did you have. your wedding? At the Logan Hotel in. Philadelphia. Lovely. Yes. We did a little a little homestay.

Wait, what was the song at your first. first first dance? Um, you are the best. thing. Aw. By Ray LaMontagne. What was your favorite part of your. wedding? I loved our ceremony. Mhm. We had it was like very intimate. It felt really nice. Our dog, which was. like my soul dog, was our flower girl. She nailed it. She was so good. Um, is. she still with. She's not. She passed away in March. Oh. man, I'm so sorry. She's she's uh. It was the right decision. Are you ever.

going to get another dog? We tried. Oh. Okay. We still have one. Oh. He's. delightful. Dumbass, but he's. delightful. I love that. He's not my soul dog. Oh. He's not. What. is his name? Baloo. Baloo. Baloo, like the bear from. The Jungle Book. Wait. Our girls call him Bubba. You but. you're not like vibing with Baloo. No, I love him now. When as soon as. Winnie passed, I was like, "Okay, you. we'll be cool now." Okay. Like while. Winnie was still alive, I was like, "You. know that Winnie's it.". Oh, I get what you're saying. I feel.

that way about my dog Henry right now. I'm like, "I love you, Bruce, but like. Henry is like the OG." I I wonder if. that like affects how they feel about. themselves. My my oldest daughter. Well, we were talking about like me. carrying a baby right now. Yeah. She was like, "Well, you had a. baby before me." And I was like, "Excuse. me?" No. And she goes, "Yeah, Winnie." Because. I've called Winnie my firstborn child so. many times that my oldest daughter. thinks that I carried the Irish. Wolfhound in my womb. It must be so wild. to have children when you say things.

like as an adult, it must take a minute. to realize how much [ __ ] sticks with. them. You're like, "Oh, you really. believed that concept. I didn't realize. that was like penetrating you in the way. that I was just like saying it because. it was like a normal statement." And now. she's like, "Mommy, you had a wolf.". Yeah, you had a wolfhound in your belly. You grew Winnie. She's your firstborn. child. Let's Wait, do you have a name? Obviously you're not going to tell me, but like have you guys talked about it? If I had a name So, if I had a name, I. would tell you. You don't have to, but. oh, okay. No, I would. I'm not So, when we were. having our first daughter, people told.

me like, "Don't tell people what you're. going to name your kid cuz then you get. reactions." And I'm like, "I don't think. you understand. I really don't care at. that point." Like if I've chosen We're. going with it. It's that's it. Yeah. Um we had that situation with. Wyatt. Our oldest is Wyatt. People are. disturbed by the fact that we've named. her Wyatt. She's very much a Wyatt. Anyone that meets her is like, "Oh, that's Wyatt." People did not like that. you. They They just don't like. so annoying? Like literally shut up. Her emails are going to be answered so. fast. Kiss my ass.

Facts. Yeah. Um okay, let's talk about. your marriage. This is a paid. advertisement from BetterHelp. Let's. talk about some green flags. Like when I. think about my relationship with Matt, I. feel so fortunate almost to the point. where I remember when I met Matt. I was. like, "What is this?" And I'm like, "Oh, now I know it's a green flag." The way. he treats me, his emotional. intelligence, the way that he approaches. our relationship and has boundaries with. his family, with me. Like these are. things that I almost feel like I never. had in previous relationships. I feel. like we often hear about the red flags.

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Okay, let's talk about your marriage. Yes. You met Jason on Tinder. I did. Before you matched with him, were you like looking for a. relationship? No. We were just messing around. We did it. like all my friends in college, we would. like sit around and like swipe together. I I would do that, too, and half of the. time if I matched with someone I'd be. like wait you're better for him like. let's go and like you end up going with. him like. we would get the same people and be like. oh did you swipe right on him? Yeah I. swiped right I matched with him swipe. right and see if you match and then we. would start having conversations that. were like parallel conversations.

Stop. Half the time also I was doing it. just for a social life. I'm like let's. see do they have parties like let's go. like meet anyone you can in college and. you're just trying to get like the. hookups. Um I feel like you guys are. like literally Tinder's biggest success. story. Have they ever reached out to. you? Um right before we got married they. did send a care package. It was like a. lot of like flame merch. It's great. The perfect match. Where signs that said that. No that is.

Yeah. Um. what was it about his profile that like. stuck out to you? Um he looked like a bigger guy. Okay. Uh. he was actually there were pictures of. him next to people and I was like oh. he's kind of like dwarfing them a little. bit. Love. Which. everyone wants to feel like small girl. Everyone wants that everyone wants that. small girl energy. You're like I can get in there. He also. his bio which you can still find. somewhere on the internet.

Oh that's so good that I I love the. internet. It's somewhere. Uh. was some sarcastic ass like I'm here to. make an emotional connection. I want to have long talks about like. having babies and something else and I'm. like you're such a dumb ass. I love it. I can't wait to roast the. [ __ ] out of you. Do you guys have that. type of relationship? We will go back and forth very much so. The it's I will I love it cuz it's like. the house I grew up in. So I get that. There's comfort. Obviously I know you've said this before. but if my daddy gang doesn't know can. you talk about the first who sent the.

first message and what these messages. were? bad. No it's so good. Uh I sent the first message. Okay. Um. I said I need life alert I've fallen for. you and I can't get up. Kylie. That one didn't land very well. He was. like, that's not that great. And I was like, I love a challenge. So. then I went back with This is so bad. This is so bad. Uh, if I told you I work for UPS, would you. let me handle your package?

And he said, yes. He said, absolutely. That's a better. one. Where do you want to go on a date? better about this. No. Yeah. We And then were you guys like. talking and then you went on a date? So. then we just had like we were messaging. for. uh, probably like a week. And it was. great banter. Okay. And. a little bit into the banter, I was like, obviously talking to the.

friends who we would like swipe with. Yeah. And they. were like, I was like, I don't know why, but this guy looks kind of familiar. Oh. So then we start Googling. with all the information we had. Jason, 27, Philadelphia. Oh my god. Then I was. like, he had to have been an athlete cuz. you could just tell by his build. So. then I'm Then I'm looking up like. Philadelphia college roster cuz like you. can find anyone on a college roster. Wait, he didn't have a picture of him. like in his jersey? Oh my god, I feel. like all the douches on Raya that have.

their like [ __ ] profile picture with. them in like their Ravens jersey. It's. like he he didn't lead with that? Years later, I said something in front. of him about Well, he had nothing on his. profile, like no pictures. And he was. like, yes, I did. I was like, no, you didn't. Come to find. out, one of the photos. that he had used was actually a. television shot. But because of the way Tinder uh, formatted the picture, Oh, it cropped. it chopped everything. So then the.

ticker at the bottom, the like graphic. at the top that showed that it was a. football game. was completely cut out. And so all it. was was like a tight shot of him with. like his beard and he was like. well-groomed. And I was like. I had I didn't I If now like remembering. the picture I'm like yeah yeah now it. makes sense. But there was no indication. Okay, but that still is like a very big. green flag because I do think it's like. if you are a professional athlete and. you're feeling like you have to lead. with your uniform.

Say less. You We know what you're out. here for. I mean I don't I Here's the thing. Do. it. Oh yeah. Do your thing. thing. Do your thing. Do your thing. But. Jason wasn't doing that. Okay, what was. your first impression when you met him. in person for the first time? He was hammered. Like. drunk drunk. Already before like were you guys going. on a date or you were just going to hang. out? just going to meet up with him. So after. we figured out who he was by Googling. Okay. we thought it was a catfish. My. friends and I were like there's no Why. would he be on Tinder? That's so weird.

So after a couple days he said come and. meet us out at this bar. And my friend. The one You know like you have that. friend that's just like. ride or die. Yeah. Like let's go. We got to see how. this pans out. She got made a great. point. It's either going to be a catfish. which is hilarious. or it's going to be him. Also hilarious. Both options are great. find out. Yep. So we went and met him at a bar in. Philly. We walk in and he's sitting at. the bar and I'm like oh so it's not a. catfish. He has since claimed that like.

it was like. a light came to like a light came down. an angel. I'm like no, you were [ __ ]. shit-faced. Like you could barely see. out of your left eye. were going opposite direction. Wait, why did he ever explain like why. he was on Tinder? No. I think he was. just messing around. Yeah, he was just like looking for But I. get what you're saying like people would. assume he's a catfish cuz it's like why. is Jason Kelce on Tinder? Yes. But maybe that was like the allure. Like We met before he did like the.

Mummers Sue the. before all that. So. he was like a little bit quieter then. but even Philadelphia is such a crazy. fan base that they know the offensive. lineman. So. Yeah, it's kind of fun. Did anyone. notice him when you guys were there? Well, it was after the Eagles Christmas. party. So he was there with like a bunch. of his teammates. that's why he was [ __ ] hammered. Yes. Oh, annihilated and there are like. stories after the fact of like what he. was doing at the Christmas party and I'm. like I don't even know how you made it.

to the bar. Wait, like I don't know how you. remembered me. Yes. He remembered he. remembered me walking in. and then at some point tasting the. Shirley Temple that I had ordered. because it was the only non-alcoholic. drink he had had that day. So he was. like it was the most refreshing sip I. had had. in what felt like weeks. I love that for. Jason. He's like oh yeah, thank you so. much. Give me some hydration. Yes. Um did you have any like. hesitations about dating a professional. athlete? I told no one. Interesting. For months. Why? Because if it was a.

situation where it was going to be like. a like we hooked up and that was it, I. didn't want to be like. because after a few times of hanging out. I was like [ __ ] Yeah. You're great. and there's clearly I. like very much am into this. Mhm. And so I was like if it's just me and. it's not him that's into this, Yeah. I. want to make sure that I'm not then. labeled the bimbo.

I that I get that and that's [ __ ]. tough cuz you're. it it Correct me if I'm wrong, but I. feel like when you're in that position. you can feel like because they are. successful and you're someone in college. or like they do have the power almost. and there is a power Yeah, you're like. [ __ ] like I kind of don't want to get my. heart broken here and I don't want to. look like the idiot because people. assume that women are flocking after. these people and you just don't want to. look dumb. Yes. And I feel like that is a natural.

feeling that's like hard to admit, but. it's like the reality of the situation. Yeah, and I didn't want to I didn't want. to seem vulnerable in that situation. yeah to allow the space like I I like I. said not super sensitive so I was like. kind of like a like if this doesn't work. out it's okay, but then it got to like a. few times of hanging out and I'm like. well I would actually be like. disappointed like I'm I'm really into. him. When did you know you were like. absolutely falling in love with him? I. mean. probably like two months in. Oh wow.

Because I was just like we at the very. beginning we would sit and talk for hour. like. it was insane how long these. conversations would go on. Yeah. And. it was. I we would leave and then it was one of. those where like a day later he'd be. like well what are you doing tomorrow. and it was it the hangouts got more and. more frequent where we were hanging out. back-to-back days and then you know it's. like. well we're hanging out back-to-back days. he has to like feel something too right?

When did you guys like tell each other. you loved each other like who said it. first? I said it first. Were you. nervous? no it was one of those where like you're. sort of going back and forth and you're. like basically playing chicken. Yes. That's the. when you're like I really like you and. then you're like I can't keep saying I. really like you at this point. we're we're too old for this [ __ ]. Yes. Yeah. Um yeah he I said it first it. was I would say like at.

six months in we were starting to have. conversations of like. if he wasn't playing in Philadelphia. like would we continue dating like. things like that which are. is a very serious conversation to have. and we were having it just very. casually. What would you have done if he. got traded to the Cowboys? Um. It was so nice knowing you. I'm kidding. Um I would never I'm on record saying I. would not wear. other team's stuff, but that I would. wear things that had my husband's name.

on it. You are never not going to be an Eagles. fan. Correct. Okay. That's good to. clarify. Um once your friends found out. you were dating him, like I had dated. this professional athlete when I was in. college and I remember he slept in my. dorm room and it made it on Twitter and. everyone was like, "What the actual [ __ ]. is that guy? He just won a World Series. and he's leaving a sophomore's dorm. room, which now is like controversial. when I think about like the age gap.". But that's another conversation for. another time. But I remember people on. campus being like, "Cooper, what the.

[ __ ] Why is he in there?" Like, "Did. girls start to be like, Kylie, what is happening?" I. when I like I kept it a secret a long. time. How? I. told no one. No. No, your one friend. knew, right? Who brought you there that. night? Yes. And then. So I had two I had two friends on campus. that knew. Okay. My two closest friends. And they. never told anyone? They didn't tell. anyone. And they my teammates knew at some point.

that I was seeing someone. Oh my god. And um. there was a there was one time, which is. funny cuz Cabrini was such a small. school, where I was talking to one of my. teammates and she said, "Like who is. this guy you're seeing?" I was like, "Ah, he just he lives in the city." And. they were like, "Why are you being so. sketchy about it?" And I was like, "Because he has a job that's kind of. public. I'm not going to get into it.". When you say that, Kylie, immediately. I'm like, "So who is it?". Well, that's what happened. And so I was. just like, "Oh, like he plays for the.

Eagles." We got there eventually. Like. it was it was a very roundabout way, but. we got there. And Pulling teeth. one of. my college teammates was like, "Oh, that's so funny. I know this girl from back home who met. this Eagle on Tinder. No. But it can't be the same guy cuz. this guy was hideous. No. I was like, "Really? What does he look. like?" And she was like, "I'm going to. text her right now and figure out what. his name was.". 5 minutes later, his name was Jason. No,

you're [ __ ] lying. I was like, Kylie. Yeah. No. It was one of those moments where you're. just like, this is validation. This is. why I'm not telling anyone. [ __ ]. And the best part is is that like. nothing ever came of like this girl. meeting him on Tinder. And so like we got like I eventually got. to the bottom of that, but I just. thought it was so funny that in the one. moment where I was like, "Okay, am I. going to let my guard down?" And someone. just comes for you. And she just was like, "Oh, like I know.

a girl from back home that met a Nigel. on Tinder." And I was just like, "No way. Who could it be?" I'm going to. die. Yeah. You're like, "Jason." Yeah, I. was like, "Um, okay." Your eye's. twitching. You're like, Yeah. Pulling out your phone. You're. like, "What the fuck?" And it was like. it was like months before we met like. and But I get it in that moment like. there is nothing worse than finally. being open to your friends and honest. and then that moment understandably.

you're dating a public person. So anyone. and everyone who has had any like. interaction or even seen him in a room. before is going to be like, "I know. him." And you're going to be like, "Wait, what?" And that must have been so. jarring. Did you ever have any like. not trust issues with friends, but did. you ever once things got more serious. have people kind of you feeling like. they were in it for the wrong intentions. whether it was like asking you for. tickets or just like stuff like that? I still have reservations about that. Like it I still am in a situation where.

I always say my husband is super. trusting and it's one of the things I. love about him. I'm the suspicious one. I'm the one who's like, "Maybe not." Yeah. And it's a weird place to be because. like I am in I have three young children. almost four. I am very much in the time. of my life where I was should be like. making mom friends and and I just I. hesitate on branching out too much. because I always think. like.

are you just trying to double date cuz. it's my husband? Is your husband Does your husband have a. hard on for my husband? Is that what you're asking? no that's I could see that and I feel. like obviously now you guys are even. more public with obviously Travis and. Taylor. So you guys are like. everyone is just like what are you guys. doing? And you're like again I'm. coloring in my kitchen leave me alone. Um how did your family react when they. met Jason? They loved him. My dad found.

I my dad was the last person I wanted to. find out because. Why? because I knew he would be like you're. not a bimbo. But he's an Eagles fan, right? Yes, but. his dad very much overwhelmed the. excitement of that he's an Eagle. Um. and he my dad is very much girl dad like. protective going to make sure that you. hold yourself the right way and that you. present yourself. well and.

he also always told my sister and I like. don't ever. be dependent on yeah the person you're. with. Don't ever like you always need to. make sure that you have your own stuff. going on that you could always support. yourself that like if anything were to. ever happen that you would not be. completely It's great advice. I it's the best. Yeah. Um but I he was the one I was most. concerned about. My sister just so. happened to be downstairs talking to my. dad and I still remember being upstairs. listening to the conversation.

They had been talking to the neighbor. about how he was playing football. like like. tiny. like little kid football. And that my dad was asking him who his. favorite player was. So at that point my. sister knew. [ __ ] The neighbor's favorite player was. Jason. And so I hear Jason's name come. up. And I hear my sister start to sort. of egg my dad on and be like, "No way, Dad. That's crazy.".

And so I go down the steps and I. was like, "You're awful." And she was. like, "Why?". And tried She tried to rescue me. She. did. I give my sister credit in this. moment. She tried to rescue me. She. tried to be like, "Hey, uh-uh. I This is not the direction that. conversation was going.". And my dad was like, "Why are you so. bothered by that?". And so then it we had a coming-to-Jesus. moment. Wait, stop. That's where you. told him. You were like, "Well, Yes. Because because then my sister was.

like, "She's She's She knows him.". What did your dad say? My dad was appalled. My dad was My dad. was not happy. He was. actually very disturbed. Very disturbed. He's like, "You can't take Sunday night. football from me, Kylie.". "Do not ruin this. Do not ruin this for. me." I can't picture this. I can't separate That's it. Wait, so. when did they meet for the first time? Um at my aunt's house in Northeast.

Philly. I jokingly was like, "You can come if. you want." Cuz he was like, "What are. you doing tonight?" And I was like, "Going to my aunt's house. We're going. to have burgers and hang out." And he. was like, "Oh." I was like, "Do you want. to come?" And he was like, "Yeah, okay.". I was like, "Oh, no. Oh, no. No.". No. Oh, no. So he met like a bunch of. your family and. He met the the the family that I'm. closest with, yeah. And what was your dad Was your dad fan. girling or was he like a hard ass? not fan girl and he wasn't a hard ass.

My dad is very warm and fuzzy. Okay. He will not stop talking if you. paid him. But internally was he. six sisters. Like he he knows how to get. a word in. Okay. Um he talked to him and. afterwards like he's actually nothing. like I would have thought a professional. athlete would have been. Fair. Love. Cuz he just came in, sat down, my aunt's. like feeding him shrimp and burgers, and. he was just like, "Okay.". Was your mom obsessed with him? Um my.

mom I think I get my skepticism from my. mom because she was like, "Mhm." She. loved him, but she was like, "Okay, mhm." She was like, "We'll see how this. goes.". Yeah. What was your first impression of. the Kelce family? Delightful. Really? Yeah, they're all they're all so sweet. and honestly. the first time that I met all of them. Yeah. Well, the first time I met his dad. was over the phone and it freaked me out. cuz they sounded so much alike. It. sounded like Jason in 50 years. It was. strange. Love.

But his mom is so sweet and they're. they're so supportive of their sons So. sweet. that it was the easiest way to bond. because when they were coming in town, we were going to football games. together. So it was we were cheering. together. It was like the best way to. Wait, do you remember the first time you. met them? Um I don't remember the first. time that I met his mom or dad. really like that moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember meeting. Travis for the first time because it was. like 8 months into dating like it was a.

while into dating, maybe longer. It was. a long time into dating. It was football. season. All right. All right, he plays. football, too. All right. He was busy. All right, he was just a little bit. Super casual. And then when did you meet him for the. first time? In Hawaii for Pro Bowl. So we like ran. in we ended up meeting up in like the. gift shop of the hotel. And it's the first time I met him. And. it was just funny to me because. he was like exactly on track with the. rest of the family. Like, they're warm. and fuzzy. Like, just "Oh, I've heard so.

much about you." And it was just like. this very silly, like. Sweet. Oh, like they're all kind of the. same vibe. You You're all family. How is your. family different from his? Oh. A lot of ways. Okay. Um I tell everybody. that. like one of my friends got married, I. was like, "It's difficult because your. in-laws are now your family, but they're. not your family." So, like, if I wanted. to. Like, if my dad was being ridiculous, I. would call my dad and be like, "You're. being an asshole.". So true. In a respectful way.

Yes. Um. Of course. But I would never call my. father-in-law and be like, "What are you. doing?" So true. So, and they also like my family is very. like we talk about everything. They like. to a fault. Mhm. Which is probably why I'm so like I. hate lying. Just say what you're going. to say. Um. they will like be very nice about the. And I'm like, "Just say it." Are you Are. you mad? Like Like I just want to get. straight for it. And they are very nice. And like You're.

like, "Guys, the same. But I'm like, "Is anyone going. to say Are we Is someone going to Like. That is so relatable though. I feel like. I have the same thing with my husband. where his family, they just call each. other and they're like, "What are you. doing?" And with my family, we all just. like lightly tiptoe. Mhm. And we want to. like. around. No, you're like, "They Bash the. door open. What the [ __ ] are you doing?". And you're like, "I have a problem with. you." But it's so funny merging.

families. I agree because I love my. mother-in-law so much. Yes. But if we. are ever having just like, "Oh, she's. being annoying." I'm like, "Well, Matt, you tell her." Like, I'm not going to. call Lisa and be like, "Lisa, you're. annoying me." But like I agree that with. my mom and like, "You need to seriously. back up." So, it's like you Yes, I. agree. Family to to point. And then. you're like, "But I'm there's boundaries. still. In a positive way. I you're my. family, but I want to be like. aggressively respectful. Yes. Um what is.

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are no longer together. They got. divorced when the boys went to college. And she has not looked back. And I don't. mean that in any way against Ed. I just. mean it in like that she has been. traveling, seeing the world. Like she. really is fulfilling. like all of her travel dreams. And for me I feel like that's such a. cool example for our daughters. that that is something that excites her. soul. So, why wouldn't she do it? It's.

incredible. Yes. Um okay, how would you describe. your dynamic with Travis? The sad thing. is we don't get to see each other very. often. Um. but whenever we're together it's like it. really feels like it's just like the. room of siblings. Like it's you just. sort of like shoot the [ __ ] and have a. good time, poke fun, and Yeah. Yeah. Does he ever ask you for like sisterly. advice? Like, what role do you play to. him? We've we've had like those types of. conversations before.

Um. it's it's a lot of like just like. playful banter. Like, he at some point. was explaining to Jason about a pair of. shoes that he bought when he was like. way earlier in the league and I think. they were like Louie or something. And he was trying to explain to me, but. like there's it's a red bottom. And I. was like, "But, why do you need spikes on your. shoe?". And Jason was like, "But, how much did. they cost?" And like it's almost like we. like gang up on him a little bit. Um.

Keep him humble. Yeah, but he's like. it's like the most fun dynamic and. watching the Jason and Travis together. is. it's so funny because you it's almost. like everyone else isn't in the room. anymore. Like, they'll get on a roll and. it's like everyone else doesn't exist. and it's just the two of them and you. can almost see them like playing mini. hockey in their basement growing up. just by the way they're bantering. How are they similar and how are they. different? Cuz I feel like they seem. similar. They're very similar in their. core values. Okay. So, they they are.

kind, sweet, generous. They both have. great senses of humor. Although, I do. think their senses of humor vary a. little bit. Okay. And then there's just like. I mean, my husband. he wears what he wears. and Travis is out here like making. statements with his outfit on a daily. basis. Yeah, the fashion is. Yes. There's a huge disparity here. Very much so. But, it that's just it. Like, their core values are you can tell. they were raised in the same house by. the same people.

Yeah. And then you can tell they were. into different activities. Um okay. Have. you ever gone on a double date with. Taylor and Travis? Technically, yes. I. would say. Technically, what does that. mean? it wasn't out we we it was at home, but. yes. Have you had one of her home-cooked. meals? I don't know that I really ate. the meal This is going to sound. terrible. I didn't really eat the meal because I. was. I was 8 weeks pregnant. Oh. And it was one of those where like. nothing sound it would not. But, you were happy to be there. Yeah. Um okay, the world saw you and. Taylor meet obviously for the first time.

at the Chiefs and Bills game. Yes. Was that the first time you had. guys met? Yes. Really? Yes. People are deeply disturbed. by this. Why? There was like all of this stuff leading. up to it about well, why haven't they. met? They're avoiding each other. I'm. not avoiding anyone. I'm more than happy. to meet someone, especially someone that. Travis is dating. Um. but it was funny to me because I kept. saying to people. I didn't meet Travis for probably close.

to a year right when Jason and I were. dating. So, it. And she's busy. Just a little. It's just so silly to me that that's. like the storyline that's that's. written. I can imagine that's also. annoying cuz you're like it was also. like probably like a lovely time to meet. at like a football game. It was like. How did Travis tell you guys that he was. dating Taylor Swift? I'm assuming like. your family was like getting told this. in some capacity at some point, right? You weren't?

No, we. I will say we knew before everyone else. knew. Okay. But, we were it was not like It. didn't hit the group chat. No, it did. not hit the group chat. Did Jason tell you? Jason and I found out together. Jason and I found out together. Um but, we knew before like they hard launched. with her going to a game. I would. assume. Yeah. Um okay, what is something. surprising you guys have bonded over? It's we grew up going to the same shore. points. So, her family was like Sea.

Isle, Stone Harbor. Fun. And that's like. the exact areas that that I grew up. going to. Like I've gone to Sea. went. to Sea Isle? I've gone to Sea Isle City. my whole life. Wait, New Jersey? Yes. I went to Avalon. Did you? And my. best friend had a house in Sea Isle. Good vibes. And I would go to the. boardwalk and I would put on my little. jean mini skirt. I was like. And you were doing something. I was. looking for something. Yes, you were. Yep. I would go there looking for like. my nieces. That's what they do now. Do. you still ever go? We have a house in.

Sea Isle. Wait, you do? Yeah. We still go to Sea Isle. Yeah. I will never not go to Sea Isle. People are like, "Oh, you're going to. graduate. You're going to go to Avalon. or Stone Harbor." And I'm like, "Oh, no." The one time we were on the beach. in Avalon and someone came up to us and. they were talking to Jason and they were. like "Ah, isn't Avalon great?" And. Jason's like, "Well, we usually stay in. Sea Isle." This is such a niche. conversation for people who don't know. that. It's like the Jersey Shore. That's It's. preface the Jersey Shore, but it's not. the Jersey Shore. It's. the Jersey Shore that is the Jersey. Shore that Yeah. because South Jersey Shore is very. different from Seaside Heights. The man.

on the beach in Avalon said to Jason, "Well, good thing you're in Avalon. We. don't really have the riffraff that Sea. Isle has." And as soon as he walked. away, I said to Jason, "He doesn't realize he was speaking to. the riffraff. That's us." Dude, I love. Sea Isle. It's the best. I'm happy that. you guys still have a house there. Never leave. Um okay, you've three kids. You're pregnant obviously with your. fourth. Yes. How have you been feeling overall. in this pregnancy? Pregnant. Yeah. I I. get nauseous all the way through. It's. been every single one. For all the men.

listening, this is very important. What. are three things that a husband should. absolutely do when his wife is pregnant? Just like give the men some tips. Like. what do we need? Um. remember that your wife is growing a. human. Okay. It's good one. Like. I mean, sometimes I think guys are like, "Oh, she's fine." And I'm like no, I'm. like you're actively building. a human being. Um. so like just some.

give her some grace. Yep. Um no remember. that it's not infinite that. this too shall pass. And so for the. women who are like extreme like I've had. pregnancies where I've been really. really emotional and I'm after the. pregnancy I'm like Jason I don't know. how you did that. Jesus. Thank you for. sticking with me. Yeah. Um so this too shall pass. Um. and then. mostly I think it's important to. remember that she needs your support in.

postpartum more than she did during. pregnancy. Postpartum is. one of the hardest things I've ever done. in my whole life. Yeah. Um labor is like a drop in the. bucket compared to postpartum. Oh. So I think that. like giving your significant other grace. I feel like for so long like I don't. have kids yet and I want kids and as a. woman I feel like for so many. years probably like decades like there. was this one just misconception about.

like pregnancy for women is just like oh. my god it's amazing and you see these. ads and it's smiles and it's rainbows. and no one was really talking about like. how [ __ ] hard it is. Yes. And I think that and it's not meant. to make people feel scared but it's the. reality and I appreciate you bringing up. postpartum because I think that was. something that no one really talked. about because there was this shame where. women felt like oh my god is there. something wrong with me that I'm not. feeling great I just gave birth like and. I think your podcast and women talking. about it like those are the.

conversations that are going to actually. allow women to feel genuinely better. about themselves because they know other. women are going through it and we're not. all like siloed in different sectors. being like what's your experience like. and you're like whispering about it. just can't imagine feeling the feelings. that I felt and not having women around. me to be like that's not that's not. abnormal. Like you are having the same. because when I brought home our first. Mhm. you like give birth my husband. leaves the hospital the next morning to.

go to work. My dad had to pick Wyatt and. I up from the hospital as a newborn. I get home and I look at this baby for. the next however many weeks. They don't. smile at you for like 6 to 8 weeks on. purpose. So like you're like grasping at straws. here of like are we cool? Like what's. are we good? But I had this I very much. had this moment looking at Wyatt of like. but you're you're mine.

And I made you and like I did not feel. that immediate. like. this is my baby and I will like it I. didn't have that. I didn't have that. sensationalized like I'm a mother now. It was like a slow ease in when she I. always tell moms, especially first time. moms, that 6 to 8 weeks when they start. smiling at you on purpose, you're like, oh, we're cool. Like we're you're. connect There is a connection here. because before that they are a blob.

They cry, they poop, they eat, they. sleep. That's it. But even when you just said that, Kylie, don't you feel like. there is like a level of. anxiety, I'm sure for some women. I. don't know if you had it and like even. admitting that, even though it's. probably the more common experience. that sounds. Think of how horrible that. sounds. You just built a human being, you give birth. Yes. and you're holding like this tiny. little being that is completely. dependent on you. And you're like.

how it is so difficult to admit. that you were not just like this is the. moment, right? Like Yeah. But to be able. to say that out loud and to have other. women hear it so that you're not racked. with guilt when you take your first baby. home and like realize that you're not. having that moment of like this is the. most beautiful thing ever. Like we're. both in diapers. I have a cooling pad on. my lady bits. I am like afraid to sit down at any.

given point cuz it hurts so bad. And at. the same time, every 2 hours I'm. supposed to connect you to my boob and. something's going to happen. It is like What the [ __ ] But but it's. beautiful. It's beautiful. No, and that is why I. think people are loving you being so. just honest about your experiences. And. again, like I commend every woman out. there that has had the best experience. where they're like, "My baby came out. It flew onto my chest and we've been.

happy ever since." Amazing. I love that. I love that for you. I hope that that's most people's. experience. But I appreciate you being honest about. it because it's like it's not. Yeah, I. think it's a lot more times your. experience is more common and no one was. talking about it. So when the first few. women started admitting it, you I know, I've seen things online of people like. back in the day being like, "What is. wrong with her? Like is she depressed? Is she like maybe, but what I don't. know, let's figure it out.". Maybe because that also happens.

Yes. Um what is Jason's best quality as. a father? Oh, his patience. Mhm. He has. so when. I do think that we have a very. complimentary dynamic that he can tell. when I've like reached my breaking point. and he will tag in in the most like. calm, "Come on, Ellie. Like we'll go try. this." or. he gets them to eat more food than I. could ever even imagine because he'll. just sit at the table and be like, "Well, that looks good to try." or it's.

just this he's firm when he needs to be, but he has this degree of patience where. I'm just like this is great. Is he. excited for four or is he like, "Okay, we need to like bunker down and figure. out how we're going to manage four?" No, I think he's he's ready for it. We just. live in like a state of chaos. Like. we're just say, "This is fun. We're having fun.". Um okay, last two questions. What do you. think is the biggest misconception about. your family? That we're more interesting. than we are. That's the biggest takeaway. That's the. biggest misconception. That we are more.

interesting than we are. I think that. people don't realize, similar to what we. were saying earlier about like you meet. people in the public eye and you're just. like, "Oh, they're a person." Yeah. Um. we very much want our girls to live like. a very normal life. Um and in attempt to do that, we very. much conduct ourselves in a very normal. way at home, where I think people would. be extremely underwhelmed with what goes. on. It's not so Hollywood. And not even.

a little bit. Are you guys going to always, you think, stay in Philly area? Yes. Love. Yeah. Love that. Um okay, Jason obviously is. retired, but I feel like he's working. more than ever. And you just launched. your podcast. What do you think this. next chapter of your lives is going to. be? Because obviously I feel like when. he was playing, you guys had probably. this routine. And now you've kind of. like launched into this new era, I. guess, of your life. Like, what can we. expect? And what are you expecting?

That's a good question. I have no idea. Okay. I am. not much of a planner. Okay. It's okay. Um I am really enjoying what we. currently have going on. I love that I'm. getting to talk to incredible women. I love that we're having conversations. that I think people want to hear or like. people are getting to learn with me. Um. I. like we'll we'll see where that goes,

but ultimately like we have. three little ladies, one on the way. I'm. excited to see like what the next one's. personality is like. I am excited to see. like what our girls look like when. they're starting kindergarten and all. that kind of stuff. So. Um, yeah, I don't know. I mean we are. super busy. Um. We're just I'm going to keep dating my. husband and taking care of my kids and. Love. Yeah. Love.

And see where where the wind takes us, I. guess. Well, I am so happy we finally. got to sit down. It was like you are. such a pleasure. Like you're so [ __ ]. normal and lovely to talk to. I. literally feel like I'm like back in. Philly in my basement talking to you and. we're hanging out and we're about to. like turn on the Eagles game and be like. woo, go Eagles. Um, but thank you so. much for taking the time because I know. you're so busy. No, thank you. And thank. you. I always like to give flowers where. they're needed. So I do just want to say. like and it usually stems from the idea. of like that you are an example of a.

woman who is doing her thing and leading. the way and like even back to when you. were having conversations that were like. oh my god, women are talking about that. stuff. And like you were openly talking. about it, you are like removing stigmas. or like making it appropriate for women. to speak the way we should get to. [ __ ] speak. So Love. Thank you for. doing that and thank you for being an. example that I mean my girls get to live. in a a better world because you've. broken through barriers. So thank you.

Thank you so much. This was an honor.