KIM KARDASHIAN (Full Episode)

[Music]. What is up, daddy gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. >> Kim Kardashian, welcome to Call Her. Daddy. >> Thank you. Thank you for having me. >> I'm so happy you're here. What did you. do today? Cuz obviously it's a little. later in the day. What have you been up. to? >> School run. >> Okay. >> Came home, meeting. a security meeting with my security. team. How often do we do that?

>> Um, every so often just to assess. everything, >> tune things up, tighten it up. >> Yeah. Um, and then I got ready. And then. I did a a Nike Skiims call um on the way. here. Multitasking and and this and then. I'm going to go hang with one of my. friends later. >> Love. Um, you have been without a doubt. one of the most highly requested people. for me to have on the show since the day. I started it. Oh, Kim, shut up. Look at. you. I'm really serious. You're Kim.

[ __ ] Kardashian. >> Everyone has been like, "We need to see. this mashup. We need to see what goes. down." So, I am so excited that we're. finally here. >> We needed to do this. >> Like, we've known it was going to. happen. I feel like one day in our. souls, >> but it was about when. >> Yeah. >> And this feels right. >> It feels right. Now is right. >> You've been in the public eye for over. two decades. What has been one of the. most insane things that you've been ever. asked in an interview? You know what's. so funny is. Chloe sent in our group chat, our family.

chat, this interview that we did on the. view, and they it was like Courtney, me and. Chloe, and they just like looked at. Chloe, and I bet you could pull this up. It was like going online, and they were. just like, "How does it feel, Chloe, to. just like look so different than. Courtney and Kim?" And how it was just. the way that they were asking questions. It was just that you could never get. away with that today. >> It is crazy. I have seen so many.

people's interviews pop back up from the. old days and you're like, "Wait, she. said what to her?" Whether it was about. weight, looks, >> it was about weight, it was about looks, it was about everything. And it was just. so crazy that like that's what it just. was okay at that time. >> It also makes me so sad. And I would. love to hear how you as a sister. supported her cuz when I interviewed. Chloe, >> she now has such a um lightness about. the topic because time has gone on where. she was like, "Oh my god, I used to get.

all this [ __ ] about me and it hurt back. then, but now I'm so secure in myself.". But like in those moments in interviews, were you aware people were doing that to. her? And like no, maybe sometimes, but. cuz like she would her responses were so. great though. She'd be like, "Wait, what? what you're ask like she was like. I can't believe you're asking me this. This is insane. And I can't believe I. mean I guess Courtney and I should have. maybe stuck up for her publicly a little. bit more when that was happening. I. think we just wanted to we didn't know.

These are like our first set of. interviews, our first time on these. shows. Like what can we say? What can't. we? Um but just to look back and to know. that that's how interviews were. conducted is kind of crazy. It's beyond. inappropriate. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, that's the negative side. The. other side is how many times you've. broken the internet is. >> there too many to count. >> It's so fun to do that. It is. >> You're so good at it. You're really good. at it, sweetie. So, keep it going. Um,

but you've done it so many times. What. do you think has been your most favorite. moment? I mean, maybe when we did the paper magazine. cover and we came up with that phrase, break the internet, you know, >> that will forever. I was literally. thinking about I'm like, I think that's. how I'm going to tease this episode is. I'm going to try to balance a glass on. my ass. I don't think it's going to even. stay for a [ __ ] second, but I'm going. to do my best. Did you actually balance.

it on your ass or is that full. Photoshop? >> That we had like a padding and then we. put it on top because it had to like sit. perfectly straight. So you can tell. that's like not my ass. It's like a. padding with that. But I just remember. that shoot was so crazy cuz I was having. dinner with my mom right after and I. don't I don't know. I went and worked. with John Paul Good who does like the. craziest shoots and it was one shot and. I was like I pulled him aside and I was.

like, "Hey, like it's me. There's no. publicist here. There's no one here. Like you want to shoot one like one more. like something other than just this one. shot?" And the one shot was. I think the the one with the glass on my. butt. But I was like, "Let's do. something else." So he's like, "Okay.". Okay. And he's like had to go back, sketch it out, think about it, and was. like, "Let's like rip it off for like. something." And I was like, "I'm down.". And then I go to dinner with my mom.

later. She's like, "How was the shoot?". And I was like, "Oh, it was good. Whatever." And then when that shoot came. out, I was living at my mom's house. And. I just remember her like screaming down. the hall like, "What did you do?" And I. just was like, "What?" She's like, "That's what you did the night we had. dinner. didn't even mention to me that. this was the what you were doing in the. shoot. And I was like, I don't what I I didn't think it was. that big of a deal, you know? >> Dude, your mother was pissed. >> She's like, Kim, how many times is this.

going to happen in my life where I'm. like, Kimberly, but then she's also. like, okay, send me my 10%, [ __ ]. >> Totally. Like, we give her heart. attacks. >> But it's gotten so far. >> I I don't know how I would deal as a. mom. I'm gonna have to. >> you. Oh, well, you're gonna have to. You. I was gonna say we're gonna get to that, but do you think your mom is unfased. now? Is there Do you think there's. anything you actually could do that your. mom would be like actually what the. [ __ ]. >> I think every time we say that something.

comes up and then it's like what the. [ __ ] But there is this thing where like. we are a little bit desensitized. Like I said today, I was like, "You. guys, holy [ __ ] [ __ ] Mom, you're on. a Vogue cover. Kendall, you're on a. Vogue cover." A Vogue cover that I did. came out today. I was like, "Are we. going to like lose our minds in our. family chat today?" Cuz like, >> and celebrate. >> How are three family members on the same. month of different Vogues? Like, that's.

just such a trip to me. Like, this can. never get old, you know? >> Such a good point. >> And so, we do talk about stuff like. that. >> Okay, good. Because I feel like when you. become more normalized to things and. desensitized, you can forget that like, no, this is iconic. Yes, maybe the first. cover of Vogue was iconic, but then also. again being on Vogue is still iconic and. you can still celebrate. >> It's still like just nothing in this. life will ever get old to me. >> Um, okay. I want to go through some of. my favorite moments similar to that.

cover that I just think everyone on the. internet will remember, especially if. they were from OG days. We're going to. start with the classic. >> losing your diamond earring in Bora Bora. through and through. It is a viral Tik. Tok audio still now. It has been. repurposed. People love it. Is there. anything that you can tell us about that. moment that we don't know about or even. just like a memory from it? >> That was like one of my first biggest. purchases. So, they weren't insured yet. That's why I was so upset is because.

that would be money down the drain. If I. insured them, then I can just like claim. them and then I could have gotten my. money back. But I hadn't insured them. I. got them that week. Kylie dove down, found it with her goggles in the ocean, and then went back and found the earring. back. So, I have the full exact earring. >> Wait, and which I forget which sister. was like giving you [ __ ] for. >> Courtney. It's always Courtney. Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> I shouldn't have even asked. I knew it. in my heart. Yeah. >> Okay. Crash out. >> Oh, I have a level of that of like a a. bag that I just got into a fight with a. a sister mom fight over that I crashed. out like that. So, >> they took it. >> Oh, it's a it's a long story. I. had this bag, this like um Hermes Birkin. shoulder bag, JPG designed '9s. I had.

one. They only made like five versions. of it. So I was like, "Oh, I want to. collect every one, but they're so rare. you can never find them. Do I send a. picture of it to my mom and tell her or. is she going to copy me on this?". >> Did you often copy? >> Okay. Okay. So, I was like, "Okay, you know what? [ __ ] it. I'm going to. send her the picture. I'm going to say, "Hey, here's the campaign. Here's the. runway images. Here's the bag. If you.

ever find it, I want it." So, go to her house. And I decided I was. busy studying and I said, "I'm not going. to like respond to my text or anything. for like 2 weeks." So, the store texts. me and says, "We found the bag. It's. here. Do you want it?" I wrote back, negotiated, got the price down. forgot to respond to say yes, I want it. because then I said I'm putting my phone. down for this like last week that I. really need to focus which I've never. done in my life. So I was like I don't.

care who it is I'm not responding. see my mom and Chloe and my mom goes oh. it's one of your sister's birthday who. wants to go in on a back and then she. goes oh and talks to Chloe and was like. you know so I was like oh my god she got. me the bag for my birthday and she just. like got it early and she's going to. hold on to it. Okay, I'm not for sure. I'm not going to respond cuz I know she. just got me the bag. I can tell by what. she just did. Anyway, Kylie posts this bag for her birthday. being like, "Thanks, mom." Whatever for.

the bag. I call my mom and I'm like, "Are you [ __ ] kidding me?" Like, I. turn into a monster. I have like rage. And I'm like rage texting her like And. my mom's like, "I have no idea what. you're talking about. Kylie just sent me. a birthday list." I go, "No, no, no. I. have the same birthday list. It's not on. there." "Oh, I must have a different. one." I call her assistant. Not on. there. She Kim, I have no clue what. you're talking about. I go, "Mom, I I. had a full conversation with you." So, I.

find it. I screenshot it. I screenshot. my conversation with the store about. whatever the whole thing. >> You're such a receipts girl. I can. already feel it. You're like, "Let me. show you the exact time you did this.". >> Yes, I did. And I was raging. >> Wait, so does Kylie have it? She has it, but she doesn't even know that we had. this whole fight. So, can I tell you the. sweetest thing? >> Yeah. >> Chloe goes, "Kim, I feel so bad. I never. knew that you were like obsessed, but I. kind of knew you were obsessed because. your whole team said, "If you ever find.

this bag, if anyone wants to get one for. Kim for her birthday, get it." So, Chloe. goes, "Come over. I got you one for your. birthday, and I'm going to give it to. you months early cuz I feel so bad." And. she gave it to me. Chloe is such a real. one, >> dude. And Kylie probably has she using. used it yet. She doesn't even know. >> And it's so She doesn't even know we're. fighting over it. It is so ridiculous. over a bag, but it was my most recent. crush out. >> Okay. So, is Kylie the favorite?

>> I think a little bit. And I think that. that's okay. I think she's the baby. And. I think that. but like I think it's warranted. I think. she like has a really close relationship. with my mom and is really sweet. I think. like Chloe's also a big favorite. I. don't know. Every She has like a. different relationship with everyone, but I would say it's Kylie and Chloe. >> Okay. Um, okay. 2011. We're going back. Any memories? Getting your butt x-rayed.

to prove it was real. I think this was. like, >> wasn't that ridiculous? >> Or just that. >> season six. That's a thing, you know. But it was fun. Like I think we even. said like, "Oh my gosh, let's go do. this.". >> I remember that broke the internet kind. of cuz everyone was like, "What a. concept that she's like.". Yeah. >> Um, okay. Taking selfies on the way to. drop Chloe off at jail. We'll never. forget Kim, stop taking selfies. >> I found so many of those in my computer. I keep everything.

>> Okay. I was going to ask you, do so you. have it? >> I have all of them. Yeah. So when I I. know everyone knows like Paris always. iconically talks about how she has all. of the laptops almost per boyfriend and. she keeps everything. So you have. >> I have it all together on a hard drive. and on my laptop and like I upload it. like so I'm what I do on my plane rides. and my spare time is I have folders of. like every person in my life that's ever. been in my life, every family member, everything that ever I like photo that.

goes in my phone, I upload them. >> So I just like spend time. So each kid. has every single year in picture form, video form, like every video that I've. ever taken, every event I every, you. know, >> every ex-boyfriend, >> everything. Everything. >> cuz you kind of have to keep it. >> I've saved everything. >> You're a receipts queen. You know, >> that's like the Yeah. >> Oh, I keep like screenshots of. conversations. >> if they're cute conversations. Mine are.

a little like. >> I I keep them like just as like sweet. memories to remember. I I do have a. problem of like. >> only remembering the good. That's like. something that is like a thing. >> Okay. I mean, I guess that's better than. only remembering the bad. >> Yeah. >> But I could see where that could go. wrong where someone comes back in your. life and everyone's like, "No, Kim, they. literally [ __ ] you over." But I feel. like you wouldn't go back to someone. that [ __ ] you over. >> Or would you? Um, I'm a really forgiving person,

but I really haven't dated like that to. like have those kinds of toxic. relationships. >> since I've been divorced, you know, like. I feel like that dating world is so like. from what I remember I would have, it. would have been like I would have been. way younger and like I think when you. get older you just don't tolerate that. [ __ ] you know? your 2021 all black Matt Galla look. Okay. >> Talk to me about when you went inside.

Did you take it off and. >> No. >> So, did you not eat? >> No. >> You didn't drink? >> No. >> You just kept this thing on all night? >> Yeah. >> No one saw your face. >> No, I was committed. >> Kim, well, we know you always commit. >> I was committed. I was really nervous. wearing that. And Demna, the designer, was really good at, okay, you don't really have to wear the. mask, but like let's talk about it. Let's like think it through. Let's like, you know, and that was like the thing.

And he was like, and I'll wear one and. we'll just like, you know, he doesn't. really like to he's really uncomfortable. with those events and really being out. So I was like, okay, perfect. if like. you're here with me and then you know. >> Okay, there were rumors that you wore it. over your face because you had gotten a. facelift that year. Confirm or deny. >> That's insane. I would absolutely. love to show it off if I did, but no, I.

I didn't. >> It was for the fashion. >> I would That was like years ago. I would. have been like. I don't know, maybe people do them. earlier these days, but no. Um, what is. a recent rumor that you've heard about. yourself that actually pissed you off? >> Maybe it would like annoy me back in the. day if it would link me to people that I. had never met or been with or if I had. just met someone and sat next to them. and said hi and then it was like, "Oh, they're dating or they slept together. and they're like just stuff that didn't.

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>> I love being in an interview where you. like don't know what the questions are. Like things can be so contrived these. days and I love like walking in being. like ask anything and and not. >> you're relaxed. >> genuinely. It's fun. >> I think it's going to be good. This game. is it's going to get a little bit more. heated. >> Okay. >> We've got this, Kim. Okay. >> Okay. This is why I asked you to bring. your phone into the interview. >> Okay. >> It's called Confess or Text Keeping Up. with the Kardashians edition. >> Here's how it works. >> Okay. I am going to ask you a pretty.

juicy question. Okay, >> you can answer it. We go to the next. one. Okay, if you pass on answering it, you're going to go into that bowl. >> You're going to pick out a card and it. has a name and a text. You'll be texting. this person that text, right? >> Okay. Okay. >> Are you ready? Do you have your phone? >> Yes, I do. I do. >> Okay. Ready? How much a year do you. spend on glam? Well, a lot. But. if I'm filming my show, then they pay.

for it. >> If I'm working, then they pay for it. So, I try to get it all. paid for so that I don't personally have. to pay for it. >> Smart. >> Yeah. But a tally. I mean, I I I don't. have a concept of what like certain. simple things cost, which really um. is, you know, I'd like I'd like to know. a little bit more about what like a milk. carton cost. And, you know,

um let me think about this. >> You can text. >> No, I mean, it's probably. >> you like call your business manager. Yeah, I should know this. Actually, >> you should like six figures, seven. figures. >> It could be a million dollars, you know. >> I don't think I'd be surprised at that. Right. You got Babe, it looks great, >> you know. Um, but I I don't know. >> Are those K tips? >> No,

it's like my hair is to here right now. So, I just like we braided it up and. just like glued them on top. There was this like blonde Chris. Appleton was doing my hair once and it. was like blonde and everyone saw these. tracks and everyone was like what the. [ __ ] is happening? But we like slick my. hair back and then glue it on. >> so you can maintain your hair. >> Yeah. Just so that. >> everyone always wonders like how do you. get this? >> I have really good hair. I have really. good hair. >> Okay. So maybe a million dollars. Maybe.

five. >> Not five. >> Not five. >> Not five. >> Below five. Maybe one. >> Yeah. >> Okay. On to the next. Um, what is. something you probably should have. gotten cancelled for but didn't? I know. what it is and I think I'm gonna get. cancelled if I say it. >> You're like, I'm not bringing that [ __ ]. back up. Like I don't know who. approved this and I don't know who. thought that this was normal this. narrative. but I did a photo shoot with Justin.

Bieber and he was 16 years old and I. don't know how old I was and it was like. a a play his his girlfriend was there. his parents were I mean it was like. nothing creepy at all but I look back. and I'm like that's the one thing that I. feel like. you know, he he's like a good dear. friend of ours and and the whole family, but like. who thought that that was a good idea, you know? I must have been 30 years old,

you know? >> I could see that. I could see that. getting murky. >> But it was a story of what's that story. with the teacher and the student, the. graduate. The graduate, right? I just. feel like that was nothing ever weird. was obviously happening and like. I just think that was like an odd. concept and why none of us thought that. that was odd at the time. But now we.

look back and I'm like that would have. not been the most appropriate thing. >> Wait, but I've never really done. anything to be cancelled. Like I stand. by everything that I I've never said. anything crazy. I've never done anything. crazy. Maybe just like by association, being around people and people thinking. >> you've been on the fringe a couple. times, but it's never really got you. >> Like, what do you think that I would. have done? >> Well, I can't say that the No, I can't. say it. I don't need a whole nation. coming for me. Okay, go.

>> text Courtney. I just rec I just. recorded call her daddy and I want to. give you a heads up of some things I. said about you and I don't have edit. control. I was on the phone with her. walking in on the way here talking about. editing and something for something else. about editing. >> Oh god. So she'll believe this. This is. kind of on brand. >> She will fully believe this. >> Hey, I just recorded Call Her Daddy and. I just want to give you a heads up on. some things that I said about you.

Period. I don't have edit control. I'm a. big voice talker. >> I thought you were like voice memoing. her cuz that's text. Yeah, cuz if you. say period, I'm not saying like period. >> Okay, that's good. >> Let's see what she says. >> Do you think she's going to freak out? >> No. >> But you guys are on good terms. >> Yes. >> That's like maybe a misconception that I. think people think all the time. Courtney and I are like this. We are so. close and we've always been so close. >> I think it's cuz when you we see you.

guys fight, >> but I have a sister so I'll leave it. there. So she calls back. They don't see. the resolve or they don't see all the. moments in between. They just see us. like fighting and then they drag it on. for months and we're like hanging out. and we'll be good and then. it's just like I think sisters just And. if you're so close and we like grew up. in the same room together like it's just. not. >> we would never not make up.

>> Yeah. >> And we make up really quickly. So, it's. just like kind of confusing or sad that. to us that we think that people think. that we're not that close. We're. probably like the closest. >> I think that makes a lot of sense. I do. appreciate you clarifying that cuz I. wouldn't have expected you to say you're. the closest, but I think. >> Well, I think Chloe and I are the. closest. >> Yes. That's her and I just have like a. lot of. >> Well, she's your older sister. >> I have an older sister and it's like I. can fight with her and be like I will. never speak to you again and then I'm. like, "Wait, what was the length that.

you were texting me?" And she's like, "I. thought we were done with each other.". I'm like, "Yeah, wait, but we will be. after this. Wait, tell me." Okay. Is she. typing? >> She's not responding. No. >> Okay, good. Okay, well, next one. >> Okay. >> [ __ ] Mary Kill X's edition. >> Pete Davidson. >> Mhm. >> Tom Brady. >> Mhm. >> Chris Humphre. >> Mhm. I think I'll text on this one. I'll. get in way too much trouble there. Okay. >> Text Kylie. I'm sick to my stomach. I. think mom has been doing some shady.

things with my money. Call me ASAP. Okay. I was just talking to her also. OMG, I'm sick to my stomach. I think mom. has been doing some shady things with my. money. Call me ASAP. >> That's sneaky smirk. Okay. Wait, back um one question because. even though you didn't answer it. calling, should I just put my ringer on? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. You have to tell me.

>> How serious were you and Tom Brady? >> Oh my god. >> Like a date. Oh, you're not going to. answer that one. >> I'm not going to answer. >> It's like he's. >> perfect timing. Hi. Are you filming or something? >> Hello? >> Filming or something? Hold on.

>> I'm I'm doing the Call Her Daddy podcast. and I wouldn't answer a private. question, so I had to do that. >> We love you, Kylie. >> Like, there's no [ __ ] way. And you're. too smart, [ __ ] You wouldn't let her. [ __ ] with you like that, >> Chris Jenner. >> See? See? >> Bye, Kyle. >> Okay. Bye. Bye. >> Okay. Wait. Um, I want to come. I want. to do the I want to do it. The podcast. >> Oh, this podcast. Yes. >> Okay, Kylie, you can come on next. >> Pull up.

>> My parents didn't invite me in. >> Just pull up. Just pull up. We'll make. it a family. >> I'm roasting her right now. Get in here. >> Hurry. Help me. Bye. Pull up. Bye. Love. you. >> I love how he's like, "This is what. happened when Chloe was here. Your mom. was like, "We I want to be there." You. guys all get FOMO of each other. Okay. Are Corey and Chris still together? >> Yeah. Isn't that a weird one that it. said that they broke up? I don't know. where that came from. Like genuinely. >> Okay, so we can confirm. >> No, genuinely.

>> In the past, have you ever hooked up. with Travis Barker? >> No, I never have. >> Absolutely. That I do not mind you. asking. I never have. And that really. sucks that that has gone on. But he. dated Paris and we were all friends and. we'd all like hang out and when I was. with Paris we'd be on the road and go to. like their tour in Amsterdam and like so. I I have been friends with him but never. like in that way and never.

>> Yeah. Never hooked up with him. Did you. have any heads up that you were going to. be in his memoir like reference as the. crush? >> No. >> Okay. >> No, >> but I I it would say that. >> we never hooked up. I mean, I don't. think he would allude to. >> that information, you know, but also. Courtney was around during that time. So, like. >> they were neighbors for a decade. So. like when everyone was all hanging like.

he was always around with his kids. They'd always come to Courtney's house. for all the birthdays. So it was like. everything was super like. open and cool and like everyone's been. friends. He was just as good of friends. with them as he was with all of us. So. it was nothing weird. >> What is the dumbest decision you ever. made on Molly? >> I think I got married in Vegas. >> You did? >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what my research. shows. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, but that was also like I.

take all of my experiences. I I said that and I have to remember if. I like was at that moment or if we did. it right after, but you know, maybe just. like in those days when that was like a. thing for me, just maybe getting married. and not telling my parents and Courtney. finding it on the internet cuz it was. public record and then telling my dad. and. >> you know. Yeah, >> that's pretty good. >> Yeah. >> Um there are rumors that you've hooked.

up with Post Malone. What is going on. there? >> Really? >> Yeah. I don't know why. I've never heard. that. Maybe the Skiims campaign. >> But he is the nicest person ever. I will. say we FaceTimed at his campaign during. the Skiims campaign and he is like the. nicest human being. And I wrote in our. family chat and I wrote, "Oh my god, you. guys, we just, you know, shot post for. Skiims and he is the nicest human. being." And then Kylie sends a picture. at her like 16th birthday and she's. like, "Do you remember when he performed. at my 16th birthday?" And then my.

brother goes, "Oh my god, he used to. sleep over." And like we would we would. hang all the time. And then Scott would. be like, "Oh my god." Yeah. Remember we. And I was like, "Oh my god, I had no. idea. He was like a part of our crew and. we like all love him so much.". >> He was one of my favorite interviews of. all time. Really? >> He is. >> Did he say ma'am? >> I think I wanted someone to almost have. a count of how many times he said ma'am. >> I was like, "Don't you feel so like. great when he's like speaking to you? You're like, "Oh my god, I feel so. proper and loved.". >> Yes. >> Good vibes. >> Yes. Good vibes.

>> Okay. What is the craziest place you've. ever had sex? >> Probably a movie theater. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> Fun. >> Yeah. So fun. >> Okay. Send one more text before we move. on. You can pick which one you do. Take. a couple. >> Okay. Chloe, my friends are trying to. set me up with this guy in the NBA. Honestly, what do you think? Should I. go? She would absolutely know that's a. lie. >> She would. >> Yeah, >> cuz you've just like NBA is off limits. Okay, do another one. >> Yeah. Let's see. Let's assess.

>> Yeah, let's assess. >> To Kendall, why am I hearing rumors that. you're dating Tom Brady? Be honest. Would you hate me if I booked Bad Bunny. for our next Skims campaign? >> Okay. Okay. Let's see what our options are. >> Okay. >> Scott, I think I may be into this guy. who's a lot younger. From your. experience, do you think I should go for. it? He'd be like, "Hell yeah.". >> Oh, [ __ ]. >> TMZ just reached out. Call me ASAP. I. mean, I could do that. My mom will call. me in one second thinking it's about.

her. Rob, Hulu really wants you on the next. season. How much would it cost to get. you on the show? He might be on the show. this next season. I wonder what it. costs. Um, who would be funner? >> Do you want to [ __ ] with your mom? Will. she be funnier? So, should we come up. with a TMZ thing? >> Yeah, but what would it be? >> Okay. What if Should we make it about. her? >> Obviously. There's a leaked photo that's going to.

come out of you and they're being really. sus and they won't say what it is. >> Should we see who calls back Wicker, Chris, or. >> Yes. And then I promise we'll move on. You're too fun cuz you have all these. good sisters that will like play game. >> OMG, TMZ just called me. Call me right. now. I'm freaking the [ __ ] out. >> How many times has you have you sent a. text like that to your mother? Um, she's. either so desensitized.

Okay, let's see how quick it takes her. to call me. >> While we wait, you were 27 years old. when Keeping Up with the Kardashians. started when you got this offer. Okay. Is it Chris? >> Quick. >> What do I say? What do I say? >> I'm freaking out. I'm just freaking out. >> Oh my god. I'm just freaking out. I I'm. I'm shaking. I can't even [ __ ] talk. right now. What? I. I I can't. >> What? >> There's There's leaked photos apparently.

coming out. There's these. >> Hello. What? >> Hello. >> There's. >> I'm just kidding. >> What? >> Kim, are you crying? Kim, >> Kim, you keep going in and out. >> I'm kidding. I'm kidding. >> You're kidding. >> Yeah, I'm doing a podcast. The Call Her.

Daddy podcast. >> That's me again. >> Oh my god, you guys are [ __ ] insane. I'm. I almost had a heart attack and I. haven't even had my cocktail yet. >> I love you. >> Okay, I love you. God, I should know. better. I should know [ __ ] better. >> Okay, bye. >> Bye, >> dude. You not being able to speak. I'm. actually crying. Kim. Kim. >> She's like, "What? >> What's wrong with you?".

>> Um, okay. 27, Keeping Up with the. Kardashian started. We're not going to. go all the way back, but just from your. recollection, like, what did you want. out of that whole experience when you. got offered it? >> Oh, I just wanted to be famous. That was. like the goals. Like for me at that. time, I just was like I thought this was. so fun, so cool. I didn't even think. we'd get to like a second season. It. wasn't like a long-term goal plan wasn't. in my thought process at that point. Um. I was really businessoriented always. So.

like. I would have worked and wanted to just. do anything like that, you know, like. had a store. I would have done any of. that. When the show opportunity came. about, I was just like, "This is our moment. This is our time.". And like, you know, Courtney didn't want. to be on and Chloe was like, "Whatever. you want us to do." And my mom and I. kind of like saw that vision. The the. Kendall and Kylie were so young. Rob was.

game for anything. And it was just such. a fun experience. And honestly, the show. has just brought us so much closer. together. Having to like get up every. day and work with your family. I mean, it would break a lot of people, but it. really brought us like so close. together. I feel like throughout the. years, we have seen so. much play out of your guys' lives on the. world stage. If you had to say, what do. you think was the hardest thing that you.

all had to go through publicly? >> Maybe the transition of my stepdad. I. think that my mom didn't know how to. handle it. Imagine Kendall and Kylie are. like losing their father in their mind. And at that time, Caitlyn wasn't very. open with us about her transition and. just kind of came out with it. So, we. had lots of different mixed emotions. I. know Chloe was super emotional and upset.

about it. So we just never, you know, we're like learning this all for the. first time and then we want to be. supportive for our little sisters, trying to be supportive for my mom. that's now getting a divorce and making. sure we don't say anything super. offensive or even asking questions of. like what does this mean and what is. this term and what is this? Like we we. didn't really know anything so we just. had to kind of figure it out and we did. it all on camera. >> How do you think you guys got through.

all of that? It just family. That's how. we get through everything. We have each. other. >> You had your dad pass away the same year. that you got your first divorce. >> Mhm. >> How did both of those experiences of. loss in the same year impact and shape. you as a person? >> Well, my dad's dad passed away 3 months. before my dad. So, she lost her dad and. then her ex-husband. So, it was a lot of. loss. my dad was actually helping me.

with that divorce um with a legal team. and helping me like process that. I. mean, I think that. it was definitely a loss, but I was so. young. I got married at 19. My dad. passed away at 22, so I was just 22. You. don't know a whole lot. Definitely a lot. of loss and change. I was obviously. super affected when my dad passed away. um. and affected like for for the divorce. We were together for for a few years,

but I didn't really. know what that meant then and I was so. focused on just like my dad and spending. all the time with my dad that I could in. those last like 6 weeks. So. yeah, it it losing someone. and you know your whole life will be. changed forever is a really hard thing. to go through but um you know again. family we did it together.

>> How do you think losing your dad. impacted your if at all your future. romantic relationships and who you chose. in partners? I would have thought that I had I had. the best example of a dad, the best. everything. He had the best relationship. with my mom during their divorce was. super respectful. afterwards when you know my mom. remarried like everything about him was. super stand up and respectful. So I saw.

by example what life can be like and how. you should be treated and who you should. the type of person you should have in. your life. So I think that I have made. not similar choices to that and that's. um confusing to me because I had such a. great example that you would think that. my. I I would have just like picked a little. bit more close to what I saw. So um.

>> are you hard on yourself for that? >> No. I think that like. there's so many lessons in life and if. it was all perfect like life would be so. boring. >> So boring. >> So I I'm totally good with the decisions. and choices that have gone on and that. I've made and I take accountability for. them and you you learn and you have fun. and you know like there's so many good. even in like all these you know. relationships that might not have turned. out that way. Like I still had so much.

fun and learned a lot. So. >> you and Kanye were together for over. almost almost 10 years about. >> a little over almost 15 years we were. together. >> Going back to those kind of beginning. happy days like what initially drew you. to him? I mean, he was like larger than. life and so smart and just always talked. about like new ideas and things that I. wasn't really familiar with and I was. always learning with him and it was.

always just. such a such a fun time. >> Yeah. On an episode of the Kardashians, you said the hardest thing is when. someone changes and you can't live with. the new version of them. What were the early signs that your. relationship with him was changing? I mean, I. I think there's obviously, you know, people can say that there was. like signs and maybe I didn't wasn't.

paying attention to them. And I think when someone has like their. first like mental um break, you know, you want to be super supportive and you. want to like help figure that out and. you want to um really get into that with. them and and be there for them. But I think that it just um when someone. was, you know, isn't willing to to make.

changes that I think would be super. healthy and beneficial, it makes it. really hard to continue on in a. relationship that can be toxic. And. that, you know, I think that, you know, when you have kids, it's. definitely harder to leave than it is to. stay. And it changes everyone's life. and. and forever, you know. So, you really. have to like take your time and wait and.

see um if there'll be changes. But once. you get to a place where you feel like. it's not going to change or get better, then you have to make like some serious. choices on what you're going to do. And. that's like a really hard reality to. face, you know? I can't imagine. I I. guess I'm curious how did you feel like. you will often or ever felt like things. are getting better. Maybe I can stay.

like did you go back and forth often? Yeah, >> of course. you know, or you like. you want to believe that for a little. bit and you know, then you look at your. babies and you're just like, but then you think like, you know what, if they see a good example of like me. setting boundaries and then once like my. mental health starts to get affected and. then I can't parent the way that I need. to and I can't be present and focused, then like there's got to be one of us.

that can. and I had to like. save myself in order to be a better mom. for everyone. And I think like when. everyone's older, they'll be able to. understand it and see that all. >> I agree. Yeah. It's such a hard time. when you're kind of the only adult. that's able to make the decision and you. like look at your kids and you're. probably like, I know this may not make. sense now, but I promise it will later. >> Yeah. Yeah, I feel like a lot of times. in. difficult relationship dynamics.

sometimes you can isolate yourself. Like. at what point when things were starting. to not be as great as it started, did. you start to open up to friends or. family? >> I mean, I think they would see it. A lot. of like stuff would happen around my. family. So, it was really hard to like. see my family get treated one way and. then me being like, "I'm sorry, guys.". and and like then stick with it. Um. I think people couldn't not see it. I.

think I got really disassociated and. there was like so many times where I was. just like really quiet and like just. trying to figure it all out and people. can kind of see that on me um during. certain times. So I think but also. people were really um compassionate and. didn't want to say hey we don't think. this is healthy for you. Everyone tried. to just move in a direction of being.

healthy. And so no one really sat there. and was like you have to get out. Like. I've been in those you know where people. are like this isn't for you. And no one. did that, you know, they knew that I had. a lot of love and respect for that. relationship and four babies and like. that I would have done anything to. really make it work. But you guys. obviously you're dealing with it with. your family and they're living it, but. then you guys were also one of the most. famous couples in the world. How did the.

public perception. of your relationship influence and. affect how you kind of navigated. everything? Cuz you're not a normal. person that can just be like, "Okay, it's a divorce. We're moving." It's like. the whole world is looking and praises. both of you in some capacity. >> I mean, I think that extra pressure just. makes it a little bit harder. I think. people were going to be I thought like, "Oh my god, everyone's going to be so. upset with me cuz I'm just like. leaving." And I wouldn't want someone to. think I was leaving someone because it. got too hard. Um, but there was just a.

lot in there that um. for my soul I felt like I had to make. that decision and um I think people get. it now and and you know they might. respect my decision and see that but you. know when you do have that outside layer. there is that extra like. you know especially I have had a few. marriages that I didn't think that were. for me and so now like am I a failure?

And then I have to like really look back. at that and say, you know what, an over a decade relationship with four. beautiful children is not a failure, you. know? And I just. you can't think that way. You can't live. that way. You can't worry about what. everyone's going to say and I have to. come home to myself and I have to be. happy. So. >> I think something obviously you said. which is so relatable is like it's. almost sometimes easier to stay than to.

leave. Mhm. >> What was it for you that was the final. straw that actually got you to be like. >> I don't know if it was like, >> you know, there was just a lot of things. that I wouldn't deal with, you know, like. um I didn't like the. feeling of like, you know, someone being like maybe.

talking bad about, you know, my kids, grandmother, aunts, like all of of those feelings. If someone feels that way, then, you. know, we shouldn't be together. You. know, maybe airing out a lot of stuff, um, a lot of personal stuff. um just not. not feeling safe, you know, not not even. physically, just like maybe emotionally.

or even, you know, financially cuz you. have, you know, big um. ideas that um financial things when you. it's like a thing where you I mean I. would like come home and we had like. five Lamborghinis and I'd come home and. they'd all be gone, you know, if he was. in an episode and I'd be like, "Oh, Hey, where where's all our cars? Like my my. my new car. And it would be like, oh, he. gave them away to all of his friends. And then I'd be like, huh, okay. And.

then I'd come home again and at a. different point we had, you know, five. more Lamborghinis and then I'd wake up. in another episode and they'd all be. gone again. And that time I was like, keep them, guys. You know, like I I. don't know. I don't know what to say. But like I never felt like I I didn't. know, you know, what you're going to get. when you wake up. And that's like a. really unsettling feeling. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's like a a lack of stability. >> Lack of stability was a big thing that. >> you're trying to be stable for yourself.

and your kids and then there's a factor. that you're like, I can't. So once you. left, what was the biggest change that. you saw within yourself? I walked away thinking that I would have. like to live a different life that I. would not have a connection to anyone in. fashion or art or like you know he that. was a big part of his life and so I. thought like okay I'm going to just like. go back to a totally different world and. my happiness is like worth that and it's.

totally okay. And some of my biggest projects came. about after I made that decision. And some of my best relationships with. fashion and art and all these things. that I thought I had to give up. or told I had, you know, wasn't going to. have anymore. And um it was like the. universe just like rewarding me and. showing me that I was moving in the. right direction. And I think that's like. a really um important powerful thing is.

to like pay attention to the signs and. pay attention to life and. you know what happens and and how you. can be guided to make really good. decisions you know but I have no regrets. like you know I have four amazing. beautiful babies. >> They are beautiful. >> Yeah. um publicly obviously having a. public marriage, you know, a vocal ex. like how has that impacted your current. approach to dating?

>> Um, you know, it has definitely affected. that. You know, there has been. situations where like I'll get maybe. close to someone, then it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't really want to. deal with your ex and I don't want to. deal that like if he's going to say. something and I'm like you know so it. has been like a little frustrating but. then I get really um.

like my person wouldn't care about that. you know but it is a big thing and I get. it you know it's not an easy thing and I. get that. I remember obviously when like. the Pete music video and everything, I. was like, "Oh, I can't imagine how Kim. handles that, right?" Like in those. moments, like having those conversations. with people that you're seeing, you. can't really. >> That made me feel really sad. That. really wasn't fair for him. And I felt. so. sad and and sorry for him. And he was. such a great like man that was like, I.

got like don't worry like it it's it's. all good or at least you know, acted. that way. and it just it must suck to. just be put in that position. So, it's. had me put up this guard where I don't. want to put anyone in that position. So, it's easier if I just maybe stay away. and but then I I can't live my life like. that either, you know, but I am aware of. it and I I do. >> I mean I think maybe at this point, you. know, it's like so a non-issue. I don't. think he would say something, but then I.

you never know. And in the past when. Kanye has had new partners, the world is. so quick to immediately compare them to. you. Who is more beautiful? Who is more. fashionable? Who is better for him? How. do you feel in those moments? >> I feel bad for them that they have to. just deal with that. you know, it's. really not fair to anyone to compare, you know, or or especially if it's like,

oh, well, he was acting this way just. when they were together, you know, maybe. when it first started. And then I was. like, okay, you know, just time will. play itself out and like it has nothing. to do with me and it's like not fair to. really blame. me. But, you know, I I I it sucks, you. know, cuz I think like any high-profile. relationship that you're in, there's going to be some comparison to.

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don't know how I would fit something. else in. So I'm just not looking. And. >> it would have to be like someone super. special for me to like I've had all my. fun. I've had all my phases. Yeah. >> So, it's like now with my babies, >> okay, but eventually. >> you're going to get back at it at some. point. It doesn't matter when, but. you'll get there. >> You're the most probably one of the most. famous women in the world. How do you. even approach dating? >> Oh, it's like usually friends like.

>> set you up, >> trying to set us up and stuff like that. So, um yeah, I don't know. Do you think. men are ever too intimidated to pursue. you? >> Not my person. My person wouldn't be. >> I was going to ask. >> I think I'm like really approachable. I. don't think I'm like, you know, >> you are like I didn't know what to. expect. Obviously, I've never met you. You know how the industry is. You never. know if you're going to You've met many. people, I'm sure, in the industry that. you're like, "Oh, [ __ ] That's like that.

sucks." So, you never know. And I was. wondering if it would be unattractive to. you if someone's like a little nervous. You want someone that's confident. confident, but not like it's okay if. they're nervous, too. >> Yeah. >> But like they shouldn't be. >> So, I don't know. >> What is your best quality as a partner? >> I think I'm a really good team player. and I think that I'm I just like. communicate really well and like I'm a. really supportive person. So, if I if. we're like in it, we're in it and I'll.

do everything to support you. And I. think I'm a really good partner. What do. you think is something you need to work. on in relationships for yourself? >> I don't know how I think it would be. hard now. I've lived my life one way for. a long time and I do think it's hard to. mesh your life with someone. I don't. know like you know Courtney and Travis. came in with kids and like you know it's. it's an adjustment when you have like. blended families. I I don't I just don't.

know if I have the energy. or maybe I just haven't met the right. person that I want to blend my my life. with. >> You haven't met the right person yet. >> Yeah. >> How would you describe your typical. type? >> I think it's so different. I don't think. I have a type. >> I feel like you either go so far most of. the time it's either been. music world or athlete world and then. there was like P. >> I know. If we had to pick today, are we. going rappers or are we going athletes?

>> Neither. >> Neither. >> I think we're going like lawyers and. like longevity scientists that can give. me all their secrets. >> Yeah. I think. >> Oh, Kim. >> Yeah. >> I like that for you. >> Yeah. >> I feel like you need someone to really. >> mentally and emotionally stimulate you. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you're [ __ ] smart. >> Thank you, babe. >> What is something that you used to be. attracted to that you're not anymore? Flash. I used to be attracted to like.

big and flashy and I could care less. >> What if he walked in in khak he's in a. polo? >> I mean I would want him to dress. >> like Birkenstock. >> Yeah. No. No. No. Okay. >> Like I want him to have like style. >> Or you could help him. >> Yeah. But like you kind of have to have. it in you. >> Yeah. Have you ever been cheated on? >> I have. Yeah. >> How did you find out? Um, he told me. >> Oh. >> Mhm. >> Immediately after or long after?

>> Long after. >> And you were still together? >> Uh-huh. >> How did you deal with that? >> I just kind of was like, huh? Tell me more. you know, but like. when you're that was like a a more. recent thing, but when you're in um like. a toxic like 20-year-old, >> not like super recently, but like when. you're in your 20s and stuff, it's like.

all out psycho war or like. >> take them down. >> Yeah. like psychoness when you're in one. of those like and that has happened but. it's like calling the the person I'll. always call the person and go off. >> called the person that they cheated. with. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. God, it's been so long. Yeah. >> You're like psycho side of me like would. come out just to make the call and then. I'd be like, "Okay, that felt good.". Okay. But now you.

in the last time you confronted someone. >> just like what's the point at this. point? I think I'm just at a phase and. at an a I hate to be like at this age. but it's like what's the point? >> Did you end it after he told you or No, >> I was in a tough position. I didn't and I was in a tough position. because I don't I don't think they were. in a position to have shared that. information.

>> It wasn't like a healthy place. And so I. kind of didn't know if I should take it. seriously or not and I had to wait a. time period to like really assess and. see what was happening. >> I see. >> Yeah. Um, if you found the love of your. life, he comes into the picture, >> do you think you would get married. again? >> I would absolutely. >> Would you do a big wedding? >> I think it depends on the person. I.

could easily just like do a super cash. No, I can't do cash, but like Yeah. But. I I it would depend on the person. Like. >> cute that you tried for a minute. You're. like, I can go so casual like backyard. You're like, what am I talking about? >> If you had to say today. >> Mhm. Who would you want to design your. wedding dress? >> Well, I was starting to have Manfred. Terry Mugler design a wedding dress even. though I just because I I wanted it in. my archive of like what I would wear and. I had the perfect one and we were.

designing it and making it and and I. just wanted that. >> just for a rainy day. >> Mhm. Yeah. I'd still go with that. wedding dress that I that I would want. >> Okay. Oh, you would still you would go. back to that in archive. >> Yeah. I really loved it. this like Terry. Mugler wedding dress. >> And is it just like in one of your. archives? >> No, we didn't get to finish making it. We just talked about it and he said we. were gonna start making it. I was like, just trust me. No, I just want it. I. just know I need this in my archive for.

one day. I just want to be ready. >> That would be really special. >> Yeah. >> Um, which of your sisters do you trust. the most to set you up with a guy? >> Maybe Chloe. >> Has she ever? >> No. just feeling. >> But yeah. Yeah. Like she would know me. so much. But I feel like Kendall would. make really good choices. >> Yeah. I feel like Kendall's got like a. good little rolodex over there that she. could be like, "Try this one.". >> Mhm. >> Like she's she's working with the right.

crowd. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. This is very important. >> Okay. >> What is your take on the Kardashian. curse? >> I always really hated that. I really did. I think it's like really. unfair to say that women are the problem. when it comes to issues that our exes. might be dealing with and that they had. those issues before.

And I mean, if you want to talk about. the positive, I mean, my mom was with like a gold medal. Olympian when Chloe was with Lamar. There was championships being won, you. know, with the Lakers. I was dating a. football player and he won the Super. Bowl. I mean, there was like. really positive, amazing things that. happened. And then.

>> I do appreciate what you said about that. cuz I agree with you. I think there's. >> such a fixation on. what happened to the men also as if. there's no accountability on their part. Like it has to be all of you are just oh. wow. Okay. You're all so powerful that. you did this to all these men and they. have no hand in their life and they have. no autonomy. It's just these crazy witch. sisters that were able to. >> and no accountability. someone that doesn't take accountability. is my biggest pet peeve and my biggest.

red flag red flag and my biggest just. like bottom line absolutely not and I. think that that is such a thing if you. think about it blaming us when okay this. person was you know doing this before. like people just don't want to put the. accountability on the men and that. really does bother me. >> out of all the baby Daddies. Who's your. favorite? >> I think I'm the closest with Tristan.

>> Okay. >> Um and Scott. I forgot about Yeah, Scott. We're super close. I mean, Travis. is such a great, you know, person to all of us. Yeah, we. have some pretty good baby daddies. >> Can we talk about the state of you and. Kanye's co-parenting relationship? What do you think co-parenting with. Kanye West is like? >> Well,

yeah. I guess that's what I'm curious. I'm wondering how are you doing and how. much is on you, Kim? >> It's not easy. Um, but I mean, I I raise the kids, you. know, full-time. They they live with me. and. I welcome a great healthy relationship. with my kids and their dad. And I think, you know,

he knows that. I push for it all the. time, but I also protect them when, you know, it's time for that. And it. goes in waves and phases and and it's. it's you know a lot of work but like I I. said earlier like I have. the best memories and the best. relationship you know with my dad and. even like I love that you know I see. Tristan puts you know their kids to bed.

every night and takes them to school. every day when he's not you know in. season. So, I I just welcome healthy. relationships, but it's not easy. >> When was the last time Kanye saw the. kids? [Music]. >> Whenever he'll call for them and and. ask. It's probably been a couple months. since we've heard from him. But.

>> how do you handle. because it's all on you in those moments. the disappointment if any from the kids. like how do you explain those moments to. them? They always knew that he had a big life. traveling before and was always on tour. and all of that. So it's it's you know. and that he lives in different countries. all the time and loves to live all over. the place. So, you know, we manage it. really well. Like they they love like. their life and their routine and their.

schedule. And I think just their job as. their mom is just to make sure that they. stick to their routine and they're. healthy and happy. And you know, look, it's not easy no matter what. co-parenting with anyone, you know. And. it's I I think that the one thing that. just gets me is that there's this. narrative that like I keep the kids. I've never once, you know, away from. him. I've never once done that. And.

like there's been so many times where. I've been like, "Oh, I just want to show. all of these texts. What are you talking. about?" Like it's been, you know, we. just haven't heard. I beg them, you. know, to to go hang out or or things. like that. But, um, it's more of just the narrative that. like I think it's all good and we're. living our life and then I just wake up. and there's all these tweets about how. I've kidnapped the kids and I'm like, it's not a kidnapping, it's a divorce, you know, like it's it's you we can.

still all be in each other's lives and. have group dinner. I mean, I just grew. up so different seeing my family, you. know, co-parent so great, you know, and. I see it with Chloe and Tristan and I. see I just see really healthy. relationships. So, um, when the time is. right, I'm sure that would, you know, maybe timelines, you know, my mom would. always say like, you got to give it like. 5 years of being divorced before. everything like really comes together.

and everyone can like coexist and and. like be friends, but it's not going to. be like that for the first few years. So, >> I appreciate you clarifying that though. because I was going to ask you like what. you think the biggest misconception. about your co-parenting dynamic was. And. if I'm honest, it was because I was kind. of wondering about that cuz I agree with. you. I feel like I have seen online some. people really speculate like, "Oh my. god, like she's she doesn't let him see. the kids and she's just keeping them to. herself and blah blah blah because of.

tweets or whatever that we've seen." So. then people can allude like, "Wow, Kim's. not letting him see them." And I I do. think against. >> every time he is asked, I will always. let them see their father. That's just. who I am. You know, if there's a time. where it's just really super unhealthy, I will, you know, say, "Hey, let's do it. here at my house or let's do figure out. a different time." And but actually, when he is like that, he doesn't. really want to see the kids a lot. So,

if he's like having a hard time, like he. he doesn't. And so it's always worked. out. But um you know he lives in all. these different countries and I send. them and you know to Saudi Arabia and. Italy and Japan and all over the world. every time he asks. I've never once. denied it. And um no I I don't keep the. kids. And I think that that all that. narrative really sucks for me. And if I. spoke out about it and rebutted it, I'm. just not that girl online that's going. to like fight back and be like, "Wait a.

minute. your assistant and you said you. wanted a whole different birthday party. and you said your party's at 4:00 so we. did ours at noon and now you're going. online saying that I'm like it's just a. totally different narrative than what. the reality is and that just really. sucks. Yeah, >> I was wondering that because, you know, the world has obviously seen it. Like. Kanye has said some pretty like horrible. things about you as a mother publicly.

and you never really respond. Um, what. toll does it take on you to stay silent? I know there has been so many times. where I've written a draft and been. like, I'm going to go. I'm just like, and then. I'm just like, what's the point? You know, what is the point? Is it am I. going to go back and forth? My kids are. going to see this. They'll they'll. figure it all out when when they want to.

make those decisions. And I used to be. so protective and so like hide. everything. And and then, you know, sometimes it's like you just can't hide. it all. and I better prepare them for. what life is going to be like for when. they figure it all out. So, I mean, I. never say anything negative about my. kid's dad just because like. it's out there. Like, the last thing my. kids need is for them to hear it from.

me. And I never saw my parents talk bad. about each other no matter what was. going on. So, I I do think that that's. just who I am. I just I just don't want. to go there with like fighting back, saying. negative things, you know? >> You know, and I think that's something. that so many people. really respect you for, but I think. there's also the side of people that are. like, I don't know how she does it. >> Yeah. >> Cuz there's been so many moments that I.

can Yes. I can imagine I would write the. draft, too. And then right as you're. going to post, you're like, why? >> I wish I did last time. I had a good. post ready to go. >> Did you at least send it to your like. sisters and be. >> the group chat, read it, approved it? >> What do you think was one of the hardest. moments for you to stay silent on? >> I don't care what you say about me. I. don't care what you say about the world. and your beliefs and any of that. Anything about my children, I don't care what it is. You know it.

That's hard for me to sit back and be. like, come on. You know, even just like, you. know, sharing stuff about them, you. know, >> it is hard to it is hard to sit back and. when he says things about my mom. That's. what's really hard for me because she. loves him and to this day like still. does and is super, you know, emotional. about it and sad about it. And it was it.

was a big part of our lives, you know. So, I mean, my kids I say such positive. things about their dad that like North. had to say to me, "Mom, I think you go upstairs and like, you. know, cry at night like it's okay. Like, it's time to move on. You need to have a. boyfriend now cuz like, you know," and. I'm like, "Wait, what?" Like, >> what? I cry like no, I'm getting a. massage like upstairs. what what what do.

you think is happening? And I and I was. like, "Oh my god, I say such positive. things all the time and I'm like in the. car if they want to listen to music, like as hard as it is for me, like I. want them to think the best things, you. know." And so she was just like, you. know, like. like they see, you know, so I'm just. like, "Okay, I got to give it up.". >> She's like, "Mom, chill. Like we get it. You don't have to keep pretending.". You're like, "Oh, >> we see what it is at this point, you. know? Like, come on. So, I was like,

"Oh, okay. >> Fair. >> I'm just going to never mention it. again.". >> North Clock, you'd be like, "Get a. boyfriend." You're like, "Yeah, >> oh [ __ ] North." Okay. Um, you just even. just you talking about your kids, everything you say, it goes back to your. children. You just seem like such an. incredible mom. What do you think is. your best quality as a mom? >> I am extremely close with my kids. Like, like best friend. and they know I'm. their mom, but like I am the mom that. they all come and tell everything to. I.

know all the tea at school. I know I'm. the one with all the friends. They come. and tell all the stuff to. So like all. their friends like trust me and want to. tell me everything. And I love being in. that position. You know, every weekend. there must be about 8 to 12 kids. sleeping at my house every single. weekend. >> I'm like the house. I love it. I've. gotten like these huge big like sleeping. bag like things and they just like go in. a row and I have bunk beds and like it's. like the house like every weekend. So.

that makes me really. >> it's really cute. >> feel. really good about that. I just have such. a great relationship with my kids that. we talk about everything and that just. makes me so proud proud of like who they. are. And it's funny cuz like I don't. talk about it a lot on our show, but. like there was a phase where like you. know maybe my daughter like for a week. wanted to sleep over at her dad's and I. said like oh she wants to go live with. him or I said something and then people. thought we didn't have a good. relationship and I'm like wait wait wait.

this is like my bestie. we're like the. closest and so it's like a fine line of. also like there's so much I want to. share about them on the show and I just. I want them to grow up and like figure. it all out but like I have the best kids. and I'm so like happy that they're mine. >> No, it's really cool. I mean four kids. I was thinking about it before you got. here. I'm like they have the most unique. names. >> Yes. Is there any name that you had on.

your mind for any of them that you could. share with us that didn't make the list? >> Yeah. Okay. So, when North was born, Kanye wanted to name her Noriega. and so then we went with like Noriega. Nori. North. So that like Yeah. Or um he. wanted to name her his mom's name, Donda. and we considered that. But I'm a big.

believer in like your own name and so. you're not having to live up to a. standard of what someone thought they. wanted you to be like or what like. pushing you into someone who you're not. So I really wanted her to have her own. name. >> Let's talk about North. >> Okay, this is an ad by Better Help Daddy. Gang. I recently went out to dinner with. some of my best friends and we were. having one of those like amazing girl.

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ever said to you? >> Oh, she will humble me. I mean, I think. she just said to me like the other day. like, "Mom, you've got to get remarried. Like, you're getting too old and like no one. is like going to deal with this." And I. was just like, "What?". She says it to me all the time. She's. like, "Who are we going to set you up. with? Like, what are we going to do?". And I'm like, "Babe, I'm just okay. Like, chilling." And she's like, "No, you're you're like growing out of that.

phase. you're like not gonna, you know, and I'm like, "Huh, okay. >> I'm dying." It's like literally she's. speaking to Kim Kardashian and she's. like, "You're kind of like losing it a. little bit. Go get a guy." You're like, "Okay, North." Um, how did you feel when. she called your house ugly? >> She. Yeah, she thought that like really dug. deep with me and she would be like, "Everything's all beige. Like, it's so. ugly. I have this voice note that I'm.

going to save for her and she was crying. saying that she had she couldn't believe. that her parents love Balenciaga and. that and by the way it's like her. favorite brand and it's like all she. wears and like but at the time she was. just like I can't believe. this is these are the brands my parents. own and everything is so beige and. everything is so like she had a moment. and now she's like obsessed. >> of Yeah,

>> of course. She's like, "Wait, mom, can I. borrow that?" You're like, "I thought. you hated it.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um online there's been. so much conversation about her recently, but how is all of that affecting you're. her family right now? >> You know what? She's so um. she's so creative and she's so. amazing and really it's so funny. She's. like really mature in one sense where. she'll be like, "Mom, I saw this and.

like I don't really care that they don't. like if someone says they don't like my. blue hair or like my, you know, like. this or that." and she's really. confident and is like, I probably. wouldn't be hanging out with those. people like if you saw like what do they. look like and what are they wearing and. you know and I think like. any mom of a teenager or a pre-teen. unless you've been here like please we. just need a little bit of grace. Like.

it's really hard and it's really like. it's it's interesting because all the. kids are like wearing the same things. but then my daughter tries to wear it. and then I'm like okay we're never. wearing that again. Unfortunately, we. made that mistake in front of the whole. world. And she's, you know, usually a. girl that that dresses like a tomboy. most of the time. And she wanted to try. something that her friends were wearing. and went to the same place that they. went to. And they all got these, you. know, outfits and then she wears them.

and it's just like, you know, okay, wait, maybe you can't wear that, you. know? And so, as a mom, you're kind of. like learning at the same time. But what I do know is my baby's such a. good girl and such a sweet girl and like. the things that she has experienced. where she might have like been outspoken. or did something she learns from that. and she sees it. and then she's like oh I don't like like. how I said that and oh I don't want to. be like that or oh you know what mom.

okay you're right like she does listen. to me but in other areas I'm like babe. if you want blue hair like it is what it. is you know that's it makes her so. happy. I would never take that creative. away from her. Um, but yeah, I just. think anyone that's raising kids, especially four kids by myself, I'm doing the best that I can and my. babies are good babies. So, I just urge. everyone to like not be judgmental and. to have grace on single moms trying to.

figure it all out with like, you know, a. pre-teen. It's a lot. If you know, you. know. >> Yeah. And I think it's also like. having grace for a child where we all. have been there experimenting with our. look and whatever and we didn't have to. have it on, you know, people watching us. and commenting. >> If her rebellion is dying her hair and. like wearing, you know, whatever and but. she's like my bestie and being so close.

I'd rather my girl be with me and be. with me all the time and let's. experiment with every hair color. Like I. also nurture her creative side, you. know? She's the girl that comes home and. just wants to work in the music studio. and can be in the studio for like 8. hours straight and loves it and like. just thrives off of it. So like I also. nurture nurture her creative side also. and want that for her. I also love what. you said um about how you have become.

the mom where like everyone's coming to. you and telling you everything. And I. think that's so beautiful because one I. feel like you have that with your. sisters. Yes. >> And you kind of like have now been able. to have that extension of yourself be. available to your kids and their. friends. And so I think I think it's. incredible that they do feel comfortable. to come and talk to you rather than kids. that are like whether they're hiding it. or whatever. Everyone's situation is. different. But I what you're essentially. saying is you've got a handle on it. You. know how you're parenting. Everyone come. down. Now focus on if you're having to.

parent and like let this kid live. >> Totally. Like my house is like literally. my door is wide open. All North and her. friends come in running in like you know. trying on my stuff or looking through my. stuff. And even like I've had those. conversations with North about like. makeup cuz she loves her her her lip. liner. And um she'll be like, "But mom, like I grew up literally my whole life. sitting in your lap while you're getting. your makeup done, watching you do it.". Like she even said, "You know, Mario and.

your your make that your team has been. like my teachers. I've had the best. teachers." And she sits her and her. friends like I love that they're also. super immature and like not grown. And. what they do on their weekends is they. go in the room and they do all their. makeup or like looks like they'll make. someone Pokemon and we have, you know, she does special effects makeup all the. time and is taking classes. So like she. turns all of her friends into these. characters or or and then they like take. fun pictures and do silly like Tik Toks.

and then you know they wash it all off. and then they try something on again. So, she's like, "For me to not want to. wear lip liner and like, you know, have. her eyebrows slit or whatever she does, like she's like, "It's just me like. trying things and like I've seen you do. it like your whole life. Like, I've. grown up with it. Why can't I try it?". So, I'm like, "You know what? Okay." Like, >> it's beautiful. >> Yeah. >> Let's talk about business. >> Yes. Throughout your career, what has helped.

you really figure out what you're. passionate about and what your strengths. are? >> Well, I think anytime something is. really successful that I've done has. been. something that I just absolutely love. and I'm so passionate about. And I think. that you have to like sift through what. that is. And that doesn't always mean. something that's like super amazing. financially. It could be like a little. one-off project that I want to do just. because I love the product and I'm.

really into it. And I think anytime. there's something that you just like. really love and you're working like 100%. behind it, it'll it'll pop off and be so. successful. >> Yeah. >> Um let's talk about skims. >> Yeah. >> It was initially called Kimono. >> when you first launched. A lot of. backlash. Then you guys ended up. changing the name. How were you able to. pivot so successfully? Yeah, I mean that. was a name kimono. You know, my name Kim. is obviously in that and I just like. thought it was like kind of ky. It is it.

was a little confusing like did we only. sell kimonos or I you know I don't think. we really thought that through. Um. but as soon as we started getting. backlash, we had like a million garments. printed with the logo in it and I. thought like. this is a huge business decision but. there's no way we can move forward with. the name. I didn't feel comfortable with. it and we quickly pivoted and just. Skiims came to us and it's such a better. name and it's. >> so good. It's so good. >> So I gave our kimono.com I gave that all.

over to you know the people in Japan. that really you know deserve that. And I. think if you have such respect I had so. much respect for the culture. I would. never want to do anything to to really. you know make it be a big issue every. time I had a launch. I I knew. immediately something had to change. So, it was just like, look, I know I'm not. going to get the garment printed logo. I'm going to have to now put a logo on. top and sew them on and like, let's take. a beat. Let's redo this. Let's figure.

out a new name. And I think again, it's. about taking accountability. You own up. to it. You take accountability and you. fix it and you move on. >> It's such a great point. Every business. has its hiccups. Every business has a. moment where you're like, "We did this. wrong." And I think how quickly you were. able to pivot I also think garnered so. much respect also cuz people were like. okay wow she acknowledged it she took. accountability she moved on. Then you go. to grow this massive massive massive. massive massive massive success. It is.

so beyond impressive. In the beginning. days of skims what were you the most. involved in? >> I think it's still remained the same. I. do like all the creative, all of the now. we have big product teams, but like a. lot of our design is what things that. I'm, you know, requesting and send. references for. The whole team will go. out and get fabrics. I'm always picking. the fabrics. I do all of our colors. My. favorite thing to do is do our color. palette. Um, but I oversee like every.

campaign and pick all the, you know, talent for the campaigns. and we'll have. a whole team that'll bring me like. different campaign ideas and. photography. So, I I oversee it all. daily. And it's about knowing how to get the. right people that really know what. they're doing to be in those positions. that you really trust to make those. decisions if you can't if I can't. But. we're all super close and really.

involved and um yeah, I love it. Okay, talk to me about what is next for. Skiims. I know we have a little. something going on with Nike. >> Yeah, we are are launching a full other. brand with Nike that we have created. So, Nike Skiims and I'm so excited about. that because we wanted to launch Skim. Sport and we were going to do a whole. sport collection and then we really. thought about it like would we do a. collab? Who would that be with? And then number.

one is Nike, right? like the brand. I. just thought it was like the ultimate. >> And then I thought, why would we just do. a one-off collab? I want to really have. a I work out every day. I want to have. continuous product in a sport category. and I want to create a whole other. brand. And so that's what this is and. it's really exciting. I just can't wait. for people to see the collection and the. campaign and everything. >> You're so right. A collab is a moment in. time. >> and.

>> this is forever. This is something that. we can shop. This is something that will. be new launches. >> Just think like with our aesthetic and. Nike's innovation, that's what I really. wanted. And they're distributed all over. the world. So, it's like I just wanted. it to be everywhere. I'm really excited. about it. >> Amazing. Um, talk to me about your law. journey. Have you taken the bar yet? What's going on, Kimberly? I just took. the bar in July. It was an experience.

>> It was It was a lot. You know, I took. four months off. That's why I didn't. respond to the bag thing cuz I was like, you know what? I'm putting my phone. down. Um. I took off four months to really focus. on that and I didn't work on anything. else and I just focused on studying and. I took it and I'm hoping for the best, praying to God. Wait, when do we find. out if you pass? >> November. November. >> Okay. Wait. And if you pass, are you.

going to join a practice? Are you going. to open your own firm? >> I would love to maybe work on a few. cases and see if I like being a trial. attorney. >> I think that would be fun before I open. up a firm. I mean, I think the ultimate. goal is just to help as many people as. possible and get them out for people. that like can't really, you know, afford. the attorney's fees and need help really. finding the right team, getting all. their paperwork done to help like. expedite the process of just getting.

them home. And I think it all stems. again from family, right? I want to. reunite families. That's what got me. into this. I thought like what happens. if someone in my family does something. that is a horrible decision and then it. tears apart our whole family forever. And I would see it's not just like the. person that goes away, it's like their. whole families. And so that's kind of. why I got into this. And you know, I. went to the White House and and I was.

called to a clemency meeting in the. Roosevelt room and I'll never forget it. I was in a room. and everyone was using all this like. fancy lingo and I just was like, "What. the [ __ ] are they talking about? >> What's going on?". >> Mhm. like like easy abbreviations that. were like very political stuff that I. just like had no clue what it meant. And. I'm literally texting another attorney I. know across the room being like, "What. does this mean? What does this mean?". And I was so embarrassed. I didn't act. like it. No one would ever know. I I I. handled that like they would have.

thought I knew exactly what I was. talking about, but I didn't. And I was. embarrassed inside that I just didn't. know what everyone was talking about. And I never wanted to feel that way. again. So, >> will you post if you. >> [ __ ] yeah. >> Okay, but what if I'm not even going to. put out the You're passing. You're. passing. >> I know. I think, you know, I Here's the. thing. >> I did it in an unconventional way, and I. think people assume that it's the easier. route, and it really isn't. You know, I.

had to spend 20 hours a week in a law. firm studying. Um, and the program was a. 4-year program and I had enough credits. to get in there, but I didn't have my. bachelor's degree, so I didn't finish. college. So, they were like, you can. either finish the last year of college. and go to three years of law school at a. law school or just you have enough. credits, you could just go right into. this 4-year program, but you're going to. have to go in yourself and I have to do. 20 hours of work a week as an attorney.

and then learn about it on my own. And. so I had to hire, you know, teachers and. professors to teach me while I'm. working. And um I said, "You know what? I've. never done anything really the. conventional way. I don't really care to. have my bachelor's degree. I just want. my law degree." So I did that. And it. took me six years cuz every time I try. to take the baby bar, if you don't pass, you have to wait 6 months. So it took me. six years. I finally passed that. And.

you know what? It's like it's such a. mind [ __ ] taking the bar exam. It really. is the hardest thing. Much respect to. every law student that takes it. It's. like. >> I hear you. I see you. I feel you. It's. It's a lot. >> Okay. Well, November, we'll be waiting. You're going to pass. >> But if not, I'm not going to give up. >> No, no, no. You're going to be great. >> But I'm putting out the good juju. >> Perfect. >> I'm not going to We're not speaking. about if you don't. Um, you're also. playing a lawyer in your new show, All's.

Fair. >> How do you have time to do all this? What is going on? >> I am like the best at time management. >> You are. >> I am like, that's my thing. As long as I. can take my kids to school, then in. between while I'm getting ready, I, you know, do all my other stuff and. my SKIM stuff and, you know, approving. campaigns and images and like I the one. thing that I am known for, I think, is. like the quickest responder.

on a text. Yeah. I just like get get it done. >> Wait, did Courtney respond? >> Oh, >> she's like, "Bitch, hello." Nothing. She. goes, "Oh, gez, what?" Lol. >> Okay. So, she's not serious. >> She's not that scared. >> No. >> Okay. Thank God. Um, why did you want to. get into acting? >> I wanted to get into acting because, well, I was presented with a unique. opportunity for Ryan Murphy. >> Yes. >> And then I thought, I mean, why not?

This is so crazy. And then once I did. American Horror Story, he was like, can. we do the series? And I was just like, "Okay." I didn't really know what it. took or what it entailed or the hours or. >> anything. And then he got the most. amazing cast together. >> Insane. Like I remember when the trailer. came out, everyone was like, >> "What? What? What? What? Who that? They're in it. They're in it." Like it. was. >> insane. But then I'm thinking about you.

How did filming the Kardashians compare. to going and actually being an actress. on a set? It's so different. It's so. different. Well, first of all, I wanted. to make sure I was so prepared. I'm. walking on this set with these amazing. actresses that have seen it all, done it. all. Last thing I'm going to do is not. be prepared when I show up. I'm. gathering that, >> you know? I'm like, so I made sure that. I set my schedule to where I can just. take my kids to school 3 days a week and.

then the other two then I'd drive right. in and then the other two. 16-our days, you know, and it was just. it was a lot. So, it was about I would. sometimes just be finishing at like 7. a.m., roll in, be able to drive them to. school, come back, take a nap, and then. get ready and go back to set. So, just. being like a mom is obviously the most. important thing to me, but also seeing. showing them my hustle and that I just.

it's so fun to try new things. And I. figured if I didn't like it, like. >> it is what it is, you know? But I love. it. And and it's so fun challenging. myself. And I think I had like this not. advantage, but like this familiar I'm so. used to cameras being around me that. like I'm not even really aware. So like. it's just feels like natural to me. >> We have skims.

>> We have. the bar. >> We have acting. M. >> we have the hardest of them all and the. best of them all being a mom and then we. have the next season of the Kardashians. and like Okay, when do you sleep? Um. that's coming out soon. >> I love sleep. >> Okay. >> And I could sleep anywhere. >> You could like if you kind of lean back. right now, you could Okay. >> Yeah, I can sleep anywhere anytime. >> Okay, that's good though. So you can. just do a quick little 15-inute nap back. ready to go.

>> Yeah. The one thing I'm super excited. about is. Skiim's Beauty. That is coming next. and that's going to be so [ __ ] major. >> Yeah. >> When is that coming? >> I had, you know, I loved KKW Beauty and. then I sold the company and then I. bought it back. So, I sold that to. Skiims. Do you see though every single. person online being like if you don't. bring back the lip liners. >> the lip liners they're coming. They are.

coming. And the KKW beauty like the, you. know, the original. I feel like I tried. to do some I love when I like. >> know what works and then I try something. and I know what doesn't work and that's. okay. And so we're going to bring back. what works and we're going to make it so. major and so great and like so great. Dude, there are girls online that will. be like, "There's this much left and I. literally refuse to use it unless it's. like for my wedding or for my wedding.". I'm like, >> "Oh, the girls are going to be so. happy.".

>> Yeah, that that's like people were I. think so confused when they were like, "Wait a minute. She bought back her. beauty business, but then Skiims bought. it. What's happening? Like, why did she. do that?" So, I just Skiims has such a. great production team and you know, you. know, from like our team and our camp. like we're going to make it so much fun. and just. >> fragrance and makeup and all the things. >> Girl, for someone who literally started. and people were like, "H, she's just. famous for nothing.". >> You try it. You know,

if it's nothing, try it. >> Try it. Give it a go. >> Yeah. >> How easy. >> Yeah. Next season of Kardashians, can. you give us any that you can tease? Well, you kind of did earlier. >> Yeah, my brother's on. >> How did you guys get. >> teasing that? >> It's just like sometimes he feels like. it, sometimes he doesn't, you know. Um, and we respect that, you know. We. respect all of the the privacy and.

whatever he wants. Um, what else? Um, Caitlyn was on. She hasn't been on this whole series. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> I'm excited. >> Yeah. >> Um, Kim Kardashian, I cannot That wasn't. that bad, right? You answered a lot of. the questions. I wasn't sure what you. were going to be up to today. >> Yeah. >> Well, cuz you know, you've been around. the block. Like, I know.

>> I'm very I'm an open book, though. >> Yeah. No. And I know it's like I for. it's like we've seen so much of your. life. So I didn't know how much you. would be willing to share or not share. because you're also in a different phase. of your life where it's like you said. like you do have kids and you have these. things and that you're you're protecting. certain parts of yourself, but you've. always been open. So I don't know why I. thought maybe you would hold back. You. lived up to every hype. You gave me all. the tea that I hoped. >> and you're just as incredible in person.

Like, this was such an incredible. interview. Thank you for sitting down. with me. Seriously, >> so nice. >> Really cool to meet you. >> Thank you. I'm so happy I came. [Music].