Hailey Bieber (Full Episode)

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. Okay. Hello. Hailey Bieber, welcome to Call Her. Daddy. Hi. How did you pick your outfit for today? I just wanted to feel comfortable, and I. feel like. I just wanted to wear like jeans and a. T-shirt and. Be cozy.

Little but like still cute. Mhm. Still like a little oop, vibe. I feel like that's your entire vibe is. always being comfortable looking and. then having like a tinge of like super. like sexy and cute but like still like. you can. stand being uncomfortable. I like I'll. do it for a certain amount of. times, sorry. Amount of time. She's burping. Yeah, like I'm throwing up. The first person to throw up on Call Her. Daddy is. me. Um, sorry. I When I say I will do it.

for a certain amount of time, I mean. like if I have to like go be on a carpet. for a second and it's just like the look. is the look and there's like something. like stabbing me in the side. Like I'll. endure it for a second or a few hours. and then. I need to tell you one time I went to a. fitting and this woman was like, "Oh my. god, try on these heels." And I was. like, "Woah, like those look. aggressive." And like they're the Hailey. Bieber heels. Like they're the classic. one she always wears. And I was like, Jimmy Choo? I don't even know. I Hailey, I don't. know. I was like, "Oh, okay, I guess.

I'll try them on." Hailey wears them. Hailey, they were the most uncomfortable. shoe I've ever put on in my life. I was. like, "What the [ __ ] How does she walk. in these?" It's the one, you know what. I'm talking about? It's the one. The big platform? Yes, but it's the it's basically just. the bottom of a shoe and then the string. goes around your [ __ ] ankle. to be a ballet dancer and like dance on. point. Flex on us. Okay. So, I think. that the reason that really high heels. don't bother me is because my foot is. just like used to being like it doesn't. care. It's a gift? Because when I tell you I.

couldn't walk after I wore those, I was. like, "Okay, Haley, we're not on the. same playing field." She clearly knows. what she's doing. If you could trade. closets or a sense of style with any of. your friends, who would it be? It's so interesting cuz I feel like me. and all of my friends have such. different style that I think I'm trying. to think of who I feel the most similar. to. I think Kylie has a very amazing and. fun closet that is just I mean, who. wouldn't want to share like trade.

closets with her? I'll trade houses with. her, too, if she ever wants. "You know what? I think I agree." I was. like, "Yeah, I think I'd take Kylie's. the same shoe size. So, like. shoe size are you? An eight. I don't want to overstep, but so my. Haley's so if you have any hand-me-downs. So, if we want to exchange shoes, we can. do that. your heels. Though, it's I think it's so funny that. I'm like thinking about I'm like, "Who. can I actually like wear all their. stuff?" I'm like, "Well, she's an eight. and I'm an eight." I'm like, "It's. actually just a game." Like it But.

you're like, "No, I logistically." No, I. love it. I'm such a logistical thinker. I'm like, "But if I was to trade with. this person and she's a size nine and a. half, then I can't have any of the. shoes." I'm like, "Haley, this is not. real.". It's a game. We can pretend. Like Okay, but I love it. Okay, so Kylie, hit us. up. Uh we're ready to take over your. closet. Daddy gang, let's talk about dating. Okay, I know I am married, but don't get. it twisted. So many of my friends are. still single and they come to me and. they're like, "Alex, what should I be. doing?" And I'm like, "Get on Tinder." I.

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It's really funny cuz I was thinking. about this coming over here and they. were like following me in the car, which. is like it happens all the time. Whatever, like. I know that's going to happen if I'm in. LA. There's not very many ways to avoid. it. They just sit at the bottom of like. my street, so it is what it is. But I was driving and like sometimes. when there's paparazzi following me, I. have a flash in my head of like getting. out with a baseball bat and literally. destroying their car. Like. I literally sometimes it it like it. makes me just so annoyed that I'm like.

one of these days, I swear to God, I'm. going to get out of the car with a. [ __ ] baseball bat and I'm going to. like destroy their. This is a hypothetical situation, by the. way. She's being hypothetical. like and driving over here, I was like, I literally like that's my urge right. now. And I'm like, at the same time, do. I want to give anybody the power to like. disturb my energy like that? No, but. it's just like a feeling of. it's just annoying. It's the feeling of.

like hitting a breaking point of like, I. just I can't stand it anymore. Yeah. And. some days are totally fine though and. some I can avoid it and like I. sometimes like get really lucky and like. sneak different ways to like. do with I think what I've come to terms. with is like that's going to happen in. LA. Right. what I mean? This isn't the like middle. of of nowhere like. you know, where there's like actual. privacy. It's like the land of where. everything happens and there's tons of.

people here. It's also like I'm not the. only person that deals with this. It's. like so many people deal with it and it. comes with the territory and it's not. like I hate when people are like, "Well, you asked for this." because it's like I. don't think that's like a. real thing to say. I didn't ask for. grown men to follow me around with. cameras, but I do understand that it. comes with the territory. It's hard to make friends when you're in. a position where you don't know people's. intentions, right? Do you.

have a hard time trusting people? Sometimes. Sometimes I feel like. I'm the type of person and I've always. been this way where I'm like I trust. people until they prove me wrong, which. is like I guess sometimes can be a. dangerous way to be. I'm a people person. Like I love to. connect with people. I love meeting new. people. I sometimes have a hard time. with like becoming like friends with. someone or close to someone, but like I. love. being cool with people and like being.

social and meeting people and knowing. their story and like where are they. from. I think that I have a lot of my. friends that I'm very close to are. people I've been close to for a long. time. Some newer friends, some not, but. I just think. Yeah, I think there's sometimes that. that aspect of like. the distrust of like I don't know what. you want to be around for. Have you ever had someone. take advantage of you and your situation. and like kind of love that it's like,

"Oh, I get this lifestyle around her.". and like how do you deal with that? Mhm. My personality is very like. I don't do well with confrontation. I. don't like to like confront awkward. situations. I'm trying to work on it. I'm trying to be better at that, but. I I never want to like. I've always been the type of person. where like I don't want to like end. things on like a sour note with a person. because especially if there's someone. like in an industry where I have to see.

them or like if we're going to be out. somewhere and I got to see like I don't. want to walk into a room and feel like I. have beef with someone. Like that. stresses me out big time crazy. Even if it's so you can stick up for. yourself. Yeah. We're working on that today. Yeah. We're working on that today. Even. Yeah, even if it that that's something I. struggle with. Even if it's for me. sticking up with myself, I just want to. like cuz I think there's a way to stick. up. for yourself and still be cordial. I've. had situations and or a situation where. I feel like there was like a lot of.

stuff I found out about the situation. and then I knew if I confronted the. person, they were just not going to own. up to any of it. So it's like what's the. point? Right. going to go to you and be like here's. what I found out, I know that it's true. I've seen the proof. I've. too many people have said something to. me about it and they're just going to be. like I can't believe you would believe. that about me. Like that's just not. true. Why am I going to waste my breath. with somebody who's just not even going. who's not in the place in their life or. like the type of person that is going to. even receive the confrontation at all?

Because I can do confrontation if it's. in. a calm, appropriate. I'm not a yeller. Like I'm not going to. like freak out and like I'll get fired. up when it's something that I'm really. like passionate about or defensive about. because like I've had that happen to me. before, but I still always want to end. it on like a. how did we move forward from here? Not. like. And and sometimes. the reality I've had to face is that. like sometimes that's not possible. Like.

sometimes you just. can't be around that person or be. friends with that person and like it is. what it is. Totally. You just have to move on. So many people in the world are. fascinated by you and fascinated by your. life and I think the public can kind of. feel that from you of like you don't. like confrontation. You rarely will. speak out on things if there's drama, which I think so many people do respect. you for, but how much does that then. weigh on you of things piling up on you. that it's like when is going to be a.

good moment for Hailey to just kind of. like speak her truth? And you've done it. a couple times on the internet, which I. think people were like, "Oh, [ __ ] yes. Like Hailey, let's go." Which we're. going to get into. Well, I think based on what you're. saying, like one of the. I think issues with that. is that then you get stuck having to. explain yourself for every little thing. And. I had to get over that because I was in. a place. at one point where I felt like I wanted. to like explain the narrative and. explain myself and like that's also.

exhausting. So, if it's like every. single time I do an interview or if I. say something and there's going to be. something that people are like, "Why would she say that?" Or like, "She's wrong for saying that." Or "That. doesn't make sense." You said marriage. is hard work and then I said that. everybody was like, "That's not a good. sign if you think that it's like hard. like it's like no matter what I say, I'm. always going to have to be explaining. myself to people, which is why I. actually hate doing interviews. where they're like it's like a blurb of. a longer thing that I said that's just.

so out of context and then I'm going to. feel like. I'm explaining myself. What marriage doesn't have ups and downs. and in a good way you get through [ __ ]. I meant when I said hard work is just. like. there's compromise, there's sacrifice. I. feel that way in most relationships in. my life, even friendships, even work. relationships. Like they can be tough. sometimes. I didn't mean it just. overall, yeah, like it's hard and it. sucks. Like that's not what I'm saying. at all. It's literally the best thing. ever. The whole sentence of what I said.

was like, "He's my best friend. I love. coming home to him." But like, yeah, it. takes work because I'm 25 years old and. I have a life and I have a career and I. have my own friends. So, trying to. balance making my. wants and needs and hopes and dreams. work well meshing my life with another. human who has his hopes and dreams and. career and like we're busy people and we. want to be in a marriage. So, we're. making it work and sometimes it's hard.

How is that not make sense? People don't want it to make sense. People really want that statement to be. like the marriage is ending. Like here. we go. people have been saying that since the. beginning. So, that's why at this point. I'm not as I was more sensitive about. it. I don't really feel sensitive about. it now because I'm just like. Totally. No matter what I say, it's like the. marriage is ending. Every single time I say something. It's like here we go. about my own relationship, it's like.

there's something wrong with it. So, it's like I just don't care. People have. been saying this now for 4 years. So, let's get into it. You are married. my feet into the couch. I'm like, "Here. we go. Alex, just go.". She's literally burrowing in. Look look at my hair. Oh my god. Hailey. Okay, you married one. of the most famous people on the planet, Justin Bieber. Mhm. What are the best parts about being. married to Justin? Well, I think the best parts are that. he's my best friend and there's nothing.

better than being with the person that. makes you smile the most, makes you. laugh the most. Like he's just literally. the best human to me. ever. And. I think that he's a person who has been. through a lot and shouldn't have gotten. gotten to the other side of a lot of. what he's been through and he has and. he's overcome so many different things. in his life for being famous so young. and the fact that he's as normal as he. is, he's literally just to me I feel.

like he's a very like normal regular. guy. I guarantee you someone takes this. and they like [ __ ] chop it up and. make it sound like I said something. different. Um. but. I've known him for a very long time. We. were friends for a long time before. anything else and like. I just love him. You can see it with the two of you. Even. though we only see stuff I mean I. remember when I saw you guys on the. beach in Santa Barbara and I grew up I. watched Justin Bieber. I was like oh. like I didn't know what to expect. I was. definitely intimidated by you guys cuz.

we'd only met once. I was like wait why. are they so normal? Justin's like hey. what's up gives me a hug. You're like. what are you guys doing on your trip? I'm like you guys are so so normal for. what how crazy your life is and it's. unfortunate that people don't get to see. that side of you guys. Yeah, he's also like. he just has the kindest sweetest most. like gentle heart and soul to me and. I've always thought that about him. Obviously he's gone through phases in. his life where. he was being.

you know, a little out there. I didn't. want to say like [ __ ] boy because it's. like not yeah but like yes and no. I. don't know. I don't know how to describe. it but like he was just in a different. space in his life and was like I think. ultimately when people are like acting. out it's just cuz they're hurting and he. was just in a space in his life. I mean. we're all hurting every single day but I. think sometimes we go through a season. where it's like we're hurting a lot. more. We're going through a lot more so. we're just. a different version of ourself that's. not really who we are. Um but like to me.

he's just the best the most fun like. I have the most fun with him. He. understands me more than anybody ever. has in my whole life and I think that. goes both ways and. he's just my guy. How has. being married to someone with that level. of fame. impacted your identity? Where do I start? Um, well, I think even. for starters. this even me talking about him or.

talking about our relationship people. will take that and be like, "All she. ever talks about is her relationship. with him.". And. even something like that, I'm just like. well, we are married and he's. a huge part of my life and obviously. people are very interested in like. our life together and he's a humongous. public figure, so it's like it's a. little bit unavoidable at times and I do.

try to you know, have my own thing, but. it's like our lives are completely. meshed together, so I don't know. I'm. like, "What do you want from me?" Like, of course people are going to ask me. about it. They're going to ask him about. it. Like, I just don't see how that's. like avoidable. And sometimes it is. because it's just not necessary to talk. about, but like even in a situation like. this, yeah, we're married I have his. last name. Like, I don't know how I'm. supposed to avoid like talking about my. life. Like, that's my life.

This person that you happen to be. married to happens to also be one of the. most famous people in the world. asking me about him if he was someone. who had a different type of job or like, you know, Right. Like, I just the reality is that it it. is what it is. From your point of view, can you explain. why the internet was so angry over your. engagement to Justin? First of all, I think one thing is that.

we're both really young. That's I think honestly that's for. starters, which I totally understand. When we got engaged, I was 21. and he was 20 four? Yeah, 24 and 21. I personally never thought I was going. to get married that young. Like I always. thought I would be maybe getting married. now, and I'm 25 now, and I still think. I'm really young. I think the timing was. obviously very rapid and very fast,

which now being 4 years. past that, looking back on it, I I. totally get it. I'm like, "Yeah, that. seemed. really drastic and really crazy because. but that was what we felt. was a decision between the two of us, and. it felt correct for the two of us at the. time, and clearly we were right because. here we are 4 years later. And I think. just given. the timeline of like where he was at.

before we got back together and what was. going on, and. there was just a lot happening. Yeah. Um. but I will say, too, like the only. people that really know the truth of the. situation and what the timeline really. was, and how it happened, and how it. went down, are like me and him. Perception is a really tricky thing. because when you're watching something. from the outside, you can see it one way. when it may not really be the reality of.

what happened behind closed doors, and. that's a big challenge, I think, of. being. somebody who is in the spotlight or. being famous is that. I know how we got to where we got, period. Like that's. I just know how it happened. I was. there. Um and I was living it every day. So. there's just yeah, there there's a lot. that I can understand why people were so. like "What is going on? Like this seems. crazy.". Your husband.

was in a very public relationship. They. were kids. People were obsessed with the. idea of them. People were confused on. the timeline you're talking about of. like. "Is she a homewrecker?". So, I guess my question is, Hailey, Mhm. were you ever with Justin romantically. at the same time as her? No. Not not one time. When him and I started. hanging out like, okay, let's just put. it this way. When him and I ever started like.

hooking up or like anything of that. sort, he was not ever in a relationship. ever at any point. I would never It's not my character. to. mess with someone's relationship. I. would just never do that. I was raised. better than that. I'm not interested in doing that and I. never was. Um. I think that. there are situations where.

you can. still kind of have like back and forth. with someone, but even that was not the. situation. Like I can say period point. blank, I was never with him when he was. in a relationship with anybody. That's the end of it. Um and I. had. been. involved with him since I was 18. The the timeline also that I think. sometimes is in question of like us. getting together and getting engaged and.

him having been spending time with his. ex before that. Um. This is so crazy. I've literally never. talked about this ever. I understand again how it looks from the. outside and there's a lot of perception. there, but. that was a situation where I I know for. a fact that. it was the right thing for them to. close that door.

They were not in a relationship at that. time, but of course there's a very long. history there and it's not my. relationship. It has nothing to do with. me, so I respect that a lot, but I know. that. it closed a chapter and I think. it was the best thing that could have. happened for him to move on and. be. engaged and get married and like move on. with with his life in that way. And it's.

hard for me to talk about this cuz I. don't want to talk on at either one of. their behalf again because it was their. relationship and I honestly respect that. very deeply. But I just know what was. going on when we got back together and I. know what had to happen for that to come. back together in a healthy way. Um. and I think it it was the most healthy, mature decision that. he could have made and I respect that. As a woman, I would never want to get.

into a relationship with someone. and be engaged to them and be getting. married to them and think in the back of. my mind, I wonder like. if that was really like closed for you. and like and I know for a fact that the. reason we were able to get back together. was because it was very much completely. closed and that is respectful to me. So. let's talk about your experience with. there's been a lot of hate on the. internet. I know you don't like to talk. about this stuff, but you've never.

It literally makes me so uncomfortable, but like. that. I see that. Yeah, I'm like I'm like can't stop. moving and I'm like crawling because I. just feel like. there's like a little bit of that like. anxiety of like. people will probably take it the wrong. way or like I just don't want to say. something that is like being. disrespectful or like bringing up. something that can like stir up. feelings for someone that like I know. that we're just all so far moved on from. like any type of drama and I'm I'm happy.

for that. So like I get nervous about. talking about it cuz I'm like, I don't. want to like stir anything up or like. bring anything up that is going to be. like a thing or. And I get that. And I think the reason, unfortunately, is you guys aren't. completely normal human beings. There is. a complete world out there that is. obsessed with all of you. Mhm. in different ways. And then there are. people that. hate you for who your husband dated back. in his past. Mhm. Take me through how your husband's past.

relationship. still to this day affects what people. are saying about you and to you on the. internet. Well, I think like one of the things. that we already just covered is that. like the timeline of things and like a. lot of the hate and the perpetuation. comes from like, "Oh, you stole him.". And I guess maybe that just comes from. like the fact that they wished that like. he had ended up with someone else. And. that's fine. Like, you can wish that all. you want, but that's just not the case.

In December of 2020, a person posted a video encouraging. haters to comment on your Instagram live. with nasty messages announcing their. allegiance for Justin's ex and just like. fully harassing you on your live. Mhm. What do you remember feeling on that. Instagram live when you saw those. comments start popping up? I don't I Well, I think there's like a. certain like almost like numbness that.

you get where you're just like. you just know it's going to happen. It. still happens to this day. This is You're talking about something. that was 2 years ago now, almost 3, and. it's something that's If I was to go. live on Instagram right now, it would. still be happening. Probably less, which. is nice, but you just reach a point. where you're just like you have to just. like ignore it and be like, "Okay.". And didn't Justin came publicly to your. defense and like said something? Well, because I know that for him that's. hurtful. Because.

if we have moved on, why can't you? Like. that's kind of just the whole thought. process of like it's just hurtful. It's. hurtful, it's bullying. It brings me back to the Rob Pattinson. and Kristen Stewart, the Miley Cyrus and. Liam Hemsworth. Their first love, right? And people are obsessed, I feel like. with this concept of like your first. relationship. Somehow it's being pushed. onto you as a get the [ __ ] out of the. way. Like let them get back and you're.

like, if I wasn't even here, they're. that's not going to happen. So like let. us just live our lives and now you go. find your partner and you be happy, but. it's it's hard. had this conversation with a. psychiatrist, with a therapist before. cuz I'm just like I hate comparison. The. whole point of this conversation is that. we're talking about how my relationship. is being compared to something else or. I'm being compared to another woman and. you know, get the [ __ ] out of the way. type of a thing. So where I'm at and the. position I'm in, it's not it's it's not. for everybody, but everybody has a.

purpose, but that doesn't necessarily. mean that you're supposed to also be 25. and married and doing this or. I'm I'm. I could have nothing figured out right. now if. in an in an alternate situation, in an. alternate life. And I think Haley, he was America's bad. boy sweetheart. And so I think there's. ownership, people and fans feel like. they own. There are totally and there's also this. like why is it you? There's so much of. that that I feel like why why you.

though? Like and I'm like, I don't know. Right? Like I just fell in love, he fell. in love. in love and like it it I I think there. was times where like. I'd be I can confidently say I I don't. think we knew it was going to be each. other several times. So like I can't say. that yes, at 18 years old I knew 100%. that that was my husband I don't [ __ ]. I didn't [ __ ] know. You almost can't live up to the idea of. who they think belongs with him.

have nobody would have. This is the thing. If it was any if it. was another person, it's like because so. many people have adored him for so long, nobody in their mind would have ever. been like the person. And here's the thing, too, is like we're. talking about a lot of like the negative. side of it. There's also so many people. who have made me. feel so embraced and so encouraged and. so loved and. obviously it has brought me a.

newfound audience and a newfound. um. you know, there it it just there I want to like. give credit also to the people who have. like supported and been so kind and like. so amazing and so great. I think everyone in the world almost. knows that you have been bullied and. harassed on the internet for almost 4. years now. Like that's a fact. Mhm. And it's a lot. has changed. I I will give credit to say. that I do think that 4 years ago,

3 years ago, 2 and 1/2 years ago, because of how intense it was, it made. me just very like closed off and like. not want to share anything really of. myself on the internet. I didn't really. want to be open. I would get a pit in my. stomach doing interviews because I'm. just like. I can't like. I I'm it's like it's like being like. traumatized kind of like you're too. scared to like. speak or open yourself up or say the.

wrong thing and then you start to become. I've had I had moments where I I felt. like I was becoming very like. not like like a robot, but like I had to. be very meticulous about what I was. saying and very agreeable and can't say. the wrong thing and like and it just. starts to become this very like weird. way of feeling. where you feel like you just can't be. expressive and you can't be yourself. And then that was where it came in with. like wanting to do YouTube and.

trying to. have a space within this age of the. internet and this age of social media. where I can say. this is who I actually am. Take it or leave it, like me or not. This is who I am and I felt like. actually taking the step. to even though at times it was really. uncomfortable for me taking the step of. being like. I'm proud of who I am and this is my. personality and like this is going to. sound probably so corny, but like to me.

I've always felt like I was just like. a girl from [ __ ] New York. Oh my god, this is going to sound so crazy. I grew up to me I felt like very normal. and like I am from a small town called. Nyack that is like a suburb of New York. City and I woke up every day and like I. was homeschooled and like did ballet and. like to me I feel like I've remained. that same person. Of course life has. changed drastically, but like at the.

core I feel like I am proud of who I am. at the at the core. Like I know I've. always been that that same person and I. feel very rooted and grounded and I grew. up very grounded and rooted and of. course I came from a famous family. Everybody you know, that's the reality. of my life. Can't change that either. Um. and I just feel like. again people didn't really like know me. and know my story and know the kind of. person I was. Like people don't know. what kind of friend I am. They don't.

know what kind of daughter I am. They. don't know what kind of sister I am. Like. but I know. You are starting to share more and even. in the video that you made where you. basically ask people to stop harassing. you and you're like, "Leave me alone. Just leave me alone.". joking, but I was being half serious. Like it was supposed to be something. that was like light and funny, but I was. also being serious because. I like woke up one day and I was like, "I. can't believe we're still doing this.". Cuz what? You like read a comment?

Yeah, like I was I which again like I. have to stop myself from doing all the. time cuz we know that the internet is a. toxic hole and like comments are a toxic. hole, but I was just like curious about. something and then I'm like reading. I'm like, "Are we still talking about. this? Like we're getting to. This has been It's been years now, like. 4 years we've been together. Like come. on.". Let it go. Let's all evolve together. Let's hold. hands and and really like.

Okay, we're done. Like that's how I. wanted to That's how I felt in that. moment. I was like, "Are we serious that. this is what we're still doing?" Like. We're still going to harass me about. this. this [ __ ] There is so much that I could. have said. Mhm. There was so much that I at times was. like this close to saying and I just. felt like. there's.

so there's so many. things that were happening where it's. also like. there's a time and a place and there's. also a time and a place to. let other people express what they need. to express and like go through their. feelings and emotions and like. I just felt like. there were certain times if I was going. to say something, it was. going to make things way worse and not.

be beneficial. Again, it was going to be. my word against someone else's against a. bunch of other people and it would just. not be beneficial and. I've struggled with that for I I had. struggled with that for a long time. Like I would talk to my therapist and be. like, but it's it's not fair that people. think that this is what happened when. this is really what happened and then. there you get into a cycle of like. again, feeling the need to explain. yourself. And for me, it's not even. about explaining myself. It's about. people knowing the truth.

Because there's a truth. There is. actually the truth of something that. happened and there's the the truth of. what didn't happen. So I think for me. when people, you know, make up stories. about me online, I'm just like, but. that's not what happened. That's not the. truth. Is the crux of it the homewrecker. thing? Like is that what really bothers. you? I think there's a lot of timing and. timeline stuff that like just wasn't. true and. that's also just the internet making up. their stories and like taking little. bits and pieces of something they're.

looking at from the outside and there it. and by the way, it's not even it's so. many different things. The internet can. make up They can literally sit here and. say that I threw up on you. Which she did. But that's not and you. can sit there and say Haley threw up on. me. It was really crazy and then I would. read that on TMZ and I'd be like, that. did not happen. Do you know what I'm. saying? There's just stuff that happens. all the time that I'm like, hello? Can you explain what happened when you. were taking photos on the red carpet.

with your husband at the Met Gala in. 2021? Oh, when people were screaming? Mhm. So. yes, I could hear everyone screaming. And. again, I think there's a certain part of. you that has a numbness of just like I. was like really surprised. I could kind. of hear it, but I didn't know if that's. what was really going on until I saw the. video after. The whole thing of everybody being like, oh, he's trying to tell her not to cry.

Um that was not true. It wasn't making. me cry. Um, although it's a very disrespectful. thing to do towards anybody, I felt like. I had something in my eye. That was See, that's just what goes to show you how. out of context things can be seen. When. he's like trying to help me, I'm like, "I feel like there's something in my. eye. Do you see something in my eye?". And I'm going like this, and he's like, "No, no, no, you're good.". And as this is happening, everyone's. chanting I don't Was it their Was it I. don't even know if it was their. relationship name or just her name.

I think probably both. you take the sunglasses. Yeah. And everyone thought you. were just part of my look. They were. just part of my look. I knew I was going. to wear the sunglasses regardless on the. carpet for some photos and then some. without. Um, but yeah, I did hear people. yelling. I It wasn't making me almost cry. Um, I. think seeing the video back after made. me like, "Damn, like that sucks that. that's the energy people are like.

putting out into like that you would. even spend your time. camping out. standing outside and doing that. I just. felt like it was It was disrespectful to. me, to my relationship. It just was, period, the end. But I think I've endured so much. disrespect, and I still do to this day, that there was like a part of me that. was just like, "Another day, another negative slay.". It's like so depressing. I know.

The. I know. See, that's like a very public. example, I feel like of you having to go. through that. Is there anything that. comes to mind that you were supposed to. be a happy moment for you, for you and. Justin, whatever, and it was. ruined by harassment or bullying or this. concept of his past? They've never ruined anything for me. They've never They've never They're not. ruining my life. They're not ruining my. happiness. And that I think, is really. the win of the whole thing. You're.

actually not taking anything away from. me. So, that's what I just keep stepping forward. with. It's like, you can't take this. away from me. You cannot take away my. happiness, my relationship, um my business, my career. Like, you just you can't. You can try, and you. can be mad about it, but it doesn't. change anything, is my point. Hailey, what do you think the internet. wants you to do? I don't know. I legit don't know.

Like, if you were trying to get under. it, like. I'm like, sometimes I joke around, I'm. like, would they be happy if I like just. moved away and like locked myself in a. house and just like. I don't know I don't know. I don't know. what the goal is. That's what's so. funny, is I'm just like, I don't try to. understand like what is the goal. think I would say it's probably. of the time it's atten- I think it's. attention. I think a lot of people. sometimes they do things and they say. things in hopes to get a response out of. you and to get a rise. And I've seen it. happen with a lot of other people, too. Like, you're ugly. And then like, you.

respond and you're like, I wish you the best. Like, I'm sorry you. feel that way. And they're like, "Oh my. god, queen, I'm sorry. I actually love. you. I was just being silly.". You're like, that was. That wasn't funny. That wasn't funny at all. Calling me. ugly, like, I guess it is kind of funny cuz look at. you. So, [ __ ] off. No, it's just like, what was your point? So, then the point is like, they get the. attention that they thought I think a. lot of people think you'll not respond. And I've had that happen before, too. Like, "I didn't think you would see it. I'm sorry." And I'm like, "So, why are.

you saying it? Are you just bored?". Like, I don't know. Can you. try to explain. what does it feel like. to have millions of people against. your relationship? Like, what does that. feel like on a day-to-day basis to you? I guess the biggest thing is like I. think it's sad. I think it's sad to be against someone's. happiness. I think it's sad to not wish.

somebody well. Who am I supposed to be that would be. acceptable and then that means that I'm. living for other people and that means. that I'm being a people-pleaser which I. struggle with a lot. I do want people to. like me. It does bother me when people. just don't like me simply because of the. rumors they've heard or the ideas. they've come up with or things that. they've seen. Like it makes me sad. But. I think I've had to come to the point.

and the realization of like there is no. way that you exist as a person, especially not as a person with a. platform or in the public eye, where. everybody loves you. And that's even in life in general. Even. if I. was just. in a normal situation, not everybody's going to like you. I'm. just existing in front of a lot of. people, so it's very easy to make. up your like make decisions about how. you feel about someone. Yeah. Especially when there's so much access.

to look at them and see what they're. doing in their social media and there's. photos and there's just like life. So, I don't know. I think that sometimes. it feels really heavy. What has been your lowest moment since. all of this began? When things can get really dark and you. can start having thoughts of like. it not being worth it anymore or not. wanting to be here anymore, which I have. had before in the past and.

um. coming out of that, I think it's really. important. a support system is like the most. important thing, for sure. Maybe if you could talk about like the. shame of having those feelings cuz I bet. a lot of people listening have had those. thoughts and you're. you're you're really alone with them and. how to even like comprehend them is a is. a process in itself. Sometimes I don't think we can. comprehend them on our own because then.

you just throw yourself back into like a. vicious cycle. I do think sometimes you need to express. it and you need to go to someone who is. going to feel safe for you and support. you in those thoughts. Not make you feel like you're crazy or. that you're wrong for feeling. dark and deep and heavy. There's also. this like kind of weird twisted thing. where I'm like. I don't get to feel that way because I. have an amazing life and I'm so blessed.

and I'm so fortunate. So like. it's almost like. my my dialogue in my head feels like. get the [ __ ] over it. Like you don't get. to feel that way because there are. people in this world that are that are. really struggling and you're not. Like. that's sometimes how I feel like I talk. to myself because I'm like. get over it. Like you're fine. That kind. of a thing and I've had to really try to. be. more gentle with myself and like allow. myself I'm somebody who like I hate.

crying in front of people. I don't do. it. Like. just don't like it and it's been since I. was a little kid and I I've never. understood I mean I've started to a. little bit more in therapy and stuff but. I'm like. why do I find it so embarrassing to cry. in front of people when it's like. everybody cries and it's such a. vulnerable thing but I'm like it feels. so awkward and like cringe to me to cry. in front of people and it's always been. such an uncomfortable thing for me. So. like I have when I say I'm like shy and.

stuff like like I have been guarded. emotionally in ways since I was like a. little girl. So I think going through the process of. also trying to understand why we have. some of the tendencies we have since. childhood like what are the things that. have happened to me when I was a little. kid that have like brought me to the. place of feeling like I have to have the. self dialogue of like. you don't get to feel that way. Get the. [ __ ] over it. People are way worse off. than you. Which is also like true. There are.

people who are going through a lot. different struggles and different. things, but it's the sense of lot. invalidating the way that I feel and I'm. still working on that. And I'm 100% sure. that I will be forever working on that. In December going into the new year, I. went to this place that was a like. therapy intensive. I was there for 7. days, no phone, literally therapy like. hours and hours a day. And that was something that.

we spoke about about like tiptoeing. around the way I feel or like not. sticking up for myself because. again, it it kind of boils back to like. I've never enjoyed confrontation and I. think a lot of it comes from my mom is a. very sweet woman who is just like an. angel, but she. as far as I can remember, she never. liked confrontation and she I feel like. didn't stick up for herself and at times. still to this day doesn't say what she. wants and is like I don't want to do.

this. I want to do that. Like she is a. very just gentle kind of. reserved, pulled back. woman. And there's so much about her. that I like super respect, but I think. it's just a pattern that I watched. growing up of just she was just very um. non-confrontational. and there was a lot we didn't talk. about. There were subjects we danced. around and as I've as I've gotten older. and had.

open conversations with my mom and she's. expressed things that have happened to. her in in life and things that she's. gone through that I never knew about. It. made me understand why she might be like. that. But it's a it's a pattern and it's like. a learned behavior, I think, a little. bit that I am trying to move past and. work past. To close out kind of the chapter of what. everything we were discussing, what. would you say to her fans? Like just. coming from your heart, they're all. sitting listening to you having an open.

mind, let's pretend they had it. What. would you say to her fans? I think I would say. the first thing I would say is you're. not obligated to like me. But. I believe that no matter what there can. always be mutual respect between people. And to me that means. just you don't have to say anything. You don't have to like me, but you don't. have to say anything either because.

behind. this person that you're looking at on a. screen is a person with a brain and a. heart and emotions and. issues that I face and. so do you and so does Alex and so does. every single person in this room. So. you just yeah, I think just mutual like. respect and decency and. and know that. what you say can have impact and.

know that. yeah, I I guess that's what I would say. My god, I think I would have been a. little nastier, but I love it from you, Haley. That's why I love you. want to say would be. No, I'm just kidding. No, like that I. always made the joke of like. I think if I sat down with any of those. people and they would walk away being. like, you know what? I get it. Like I respect her for that. I. think we will always have more in common. than we don't. That's like where.

everything comes from for me. So when I. see people being nasty and like. attacking me, I'm like, we probably like. a lot of the same things. One of my last questions on this topic. cuz I'm just trying to get all of it. just like let's wrap it in a bow. Yeah. So, you never have to talk about this. again. You're like, yeah, I wish. At No, I literally never will. No. I'm like sweating. At any point did Justin or any literally. anyone. ever ask his ex to help put an end to. the harassment that her fans put you.

through? No. What I will say is. that she has been in this industry much. longer than I have and maybe there's. something that she knows about like it. wouldn't fix anything. I think like a nice little heart on your. Tik Tok could. end it all. The thing is too is like I think that. like all everyone is just trying to like. create separation even though there's. clearly like not always separation.

I have no expectation I would never. expect someone to do that for me. Like. she doesn't owe me anything. I don't owe Neither of us owe anybody. anything except like. respect. I respect her a lot and. I think that like there's just no. expectations. If that was something that. she felt was necessary, then that would. be amazing, but. I I just. yeah, I respect her. There's no drama. personally. Have you guys ever spoken?

Yes. And then like recently. Now, I don't I. guess not recently, but like after your. marriage. Yes. So, that's why I'm like. it's all respect, it's all love. That's also why I feel like well, if. everybody on our side knows. what happened and we're good. and we could walk away from it. with clarity and respect, then like. Right. That's fine. As long as you know you're good, that's.

really all that matters. Which had brought me a lot of peace. Mhm. And I'm like, hey, we know what. happened. Mhm. It is what it is. You're never going to. be able to like correct every narrative. and there's going to be new ones that. come. Oh, yeah. It's never going to end and that's why I. get to the point where I'm like. that's why I didn't speak about a lot of. this stuff because I'm like, there'll be. something new. There'll probably be. something new from this interview. Oh, of course. Then I'm just like. You want to know what's going to come. from this interview? Hailey Bieber.

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with Justin Bieber. Oh my god. I was going to try to do it so like so. straight face that you're like, this. girl is a [ __ ] psycho. No, I was. wondering, does anyone ever ask you. about your sex life? No, actually. We're the first ones over here. Are you. a morning sex or night sex people? More so night. Me, too. Mhm. But I do like morning, too. It's so. funny cuz I talk about this stuff and. the reason I get weird about talking. about it is cuz I'm like, I my parents.

are going to listen to this. There's. something that feels so cringe. No. about your parents. Hopefully they don't make it this far. Your your parents are probably really. progressive and like. True, Hailey, but I grew up fully. Catholic. Okay. So, my parents like. really it took Call Her Daddy really. like I went from zero to like, oh my. god, what is she doing? Yeah. But they get over it. This will See, this will be your. introduction like. Guys, I also have this theory that. people like don't care about married. people sex. I'm sorry, you two are the hottest. people in the world. Absolutely okay.

think anybody cares. Oh, I care. Okay, so you're night sex. people, we love that. Okay, this is so. graphic, but I'm saying the words. For. the rest of your life, you have to pick. one of the two. Okay. From Mr. Bieber, are you going to be. fingered or eaten out for the rest of. your life, you can only take one. Hmm, that's very hard. Cuz I feel like it's always a. combination. Has anyone ever tried to have a. threesome with you?

Like in our relationship? No. Would you be down? No. It's funny because. I feel like. those ideas can be really fun and like. sound really exciting. I think at the at. the point that of inside of our It. doesn't work for the two of us. We. personally like that wouldn't work for. this Cuz cuz I think sometimes for some. people it it does, so I've so I've. heard. Some people are in like open. relationships and like.

it works for a time, but I feel like in. the end it always doesn't end up. working. So I think the second you make. the decision to do that, there is never. going back from that. And I just don't. know that I would ever be willing to. like. We've worked very. hard. We worked very hard to like be in the. space that we're in now and like. trusting each other and there's like. such a beautiful trust and bond that I. just don't think that's something I. would be comfortable with. Or him, for that matter.

Can you expand a little bit on how you. guys built that trust and that bond? Um he's really honest. Mhm. Like brutally honest, overly honest. I. could ask him about any person, any past. girl, anything and he'd be like, "Oh. yeah, like this this this and this.". Like he doesn't have a problem. being explicit. And I think that made me. trust him a lot because I'm like, "There's nothing I don't know.". Cuz you can tell when someone's being. shady. And then when you. around or like he's had people like DM. him and he'll be like, "Oh like. show me the DMs. Like do you And he'll.

like be like, "Do you think that like. this person's trying to be nice? Or you think this is weird?" And I'm. like, "I think it's weird." No, it's. like he knows. He's just saying like. Yeah. Do you think like this person is like. genuine like cuz they come like super. friendly and I'm just like there's just. no reason. There's no reason you need to have a. relationship. There's not that yeah. that's cute. But I'm also someone where like I really. encourage female friendships cuz I think. that you have to be able to have like. healthy. opposite sex relationships that are. friendships um or else you're like. closing yourself off all the time and.

it's like. But you're not like having Instagram. models like walk around your house. No, of course. I'm just saying like of. course there's boundaries with. everything but I'm just saying like. don't be afraid to have girlfriends. Totally. Right cuz it's like if you. can't it's like oh my god like. If I could it'd be like if I couldn't. have friends that were guys. I think it. you control. what the limitations are in any. relationship and any friendship and any. work relationship. Like you can have self-restraint and. yeah yeah. For sure.

Do you have people still in your DMs? No. You're like I am just I am just a. married woman with. have people hitting me up like. I'll slide in my DMs. I got you. Okay, do you and Justin have the same favorite. positions? I think so. It's not like I'm like I strictly like. this one thing and he strictly likes. another thing. give us like one or two. or five? It's always different.

Okay, yeah. It's always something different. You're you're moving it around. Yeah. Well, no I I mean like. one day it might be one thing one day it. might be another. Oh, I actually didn't even mean that. too. I I was like you're doing 10. positions in one night. he's flipping you upside down one. second. You guys have like you guys are not set. on one position. Like you guys have a. couple go-tos. I I. With my boyfriend I have now like our. go-to like. three. I feel like every couple has. those like go-tos. Yeah. Do you want to give us one and it can't.

be missionary? It's definitely not missionary. I. really like doggy style. You heard it here. That was beautiful, Hailey. What is the sexiest thing Justin. does to turn you on? Hmm. You know, it can be so many different. things. It can be like a connection. thing. It can be a physical thing. For. me, kissing is a big deal. Like that's a that's a big thing for me. It always has been, just like in my life.

before I was married. So, I would say. that is probably the most. What is the sexiest thing you do that. turns him on? Or what's his thing that. he always says like, "Oh God, like. Hailey." Like he like gets him going? The connection point is very important. to him of like, we could literally just. be like laying down talking before and. like just having like a really fun. conversation. And like that is really. his thing. important for him. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to tell you something. that I think is super sexy about you.

that turns me on. is voting. Yes. Woo! Voting is hot. Yes, voting is so sexy. It's so sexy. Justin can't vote here, but. Oh. Well, he'll be he'll be supportive. of us both voting, okay? very supportive. are so many people that listen to this. show and this airs in September. We have. a huge election in November and I just. think it would be great to use the end. of this episode and use this platform. and our platforms to just emphasize why.

it's important to vote and just how much. everyone needs to get out there. So, why. is voting in this year's election. important to you, Hailey? It's important to me because I think as. everybody knows we're in a very scary. state in our country. Um we as women are. living through a very terrifying reality. right now. Um and I think. what we've learned at what I took away. in a big way from the overturn of Roe v.

Wade was the people that we elect. in our states, in our cities, in our. counties, they are so important. Um. and that was something that I was like, "Shit. Like, We got to get on it. really the reality. We got to get on it. Um I felt very passionate the last. election about just. please. get him out of there. Like, that was. like it felt like legit like life or. death and it and it was in so many ways.

Um and I still feel that even even more. now because you've seen. there's still so many. terrible, scary things happening within. our country, but I do think there's a. chance for like. change. And I always think there's an. opportunity for change and there's an. opportunity to. um come together and stand up and. make a difference. You've been open about the fact that. people in your family have different. political views than you. Mhm. And I think that's probably the most.

relatable thing we'll talk about on the. podcast today. And I think so many. people can relate to that. How did you. navigate that? Cuz it can get heated. Yeah, it was tricky. Um especially very. personally, like my my dad, my parents. Um. it just got to a point where I found. that we couldn't discuss it, which I. think is okay. Um I believe what I believe. I am a. fully formed. woman now. 25, turning 26. I know what I believe in.

and what I don't. Um. I know what I stand for and what I. don't. And obviously it's disappointing. that the people that raised you could. think so differently than you. and have such a different perception. that sounds. crazy and you're just like, "How did I. come from you then? I just don't get. this.". But it would it just causes too much. disturbance and turmoil and. argumentative. back and forth that it's just like.

it just can't be talked about. You're. not going to change people. And it's. funny cuz me and my sister have the same. exact point of view, which is like nice. because at least I'm like at least I got. you. Like. At least, thank god. my mom, like she I'll try to talk to her. about something. She's like, "I'm from. Brazil, so" I'm like, "Okay.". My mom's from Brazil, by the way. Oh my god. No, I I appreciate that. I. think it's always good to just one. normalize people are going to have. different views, but I do think. regardless, like just get out and vote.

because. it is so important this year. specifically. For sure. And it's not something that I. even, you know, the last election I was. super vocal about it. I plan to do that. every single time. Um. it's something that I'm passionate. about, for sure. So, I appreciate you. bringing it up. Hailey Bieber, thank you so much for. coming on Call Her Daddy. I really. appreciate you opening up. You don't do. a lot of long-form interviews, so I. appreciate you trusting me and sitting. down. Of course. Thank you. I think I had an.

expectation where I I know coming on. here with you, you're going to go there. That's just the reality of the. situation. I wouldn't have agreed to it. if I didn't know that was the case here. I think there's a lot that I've avoided. speaking on for a long time that it it. is my life, so I should be able to like. say what I want about it. You go there. in certain context where it's like I've. not gone before, and I think. that that's like a personal challenge to. myself that I want I wanted to like push.

myself to like. you know, it's okay to be like I was uncomfortable. multiple times in this. My feet are inside of the couch cuz I. was like, how many like protective body. positions did I get into? I folded like. a pretzel. What happens in New York, Kelly?

To be honest, I I really was always a. very level-headed young person, but I. definitely had my moment where like I. went to New York, I started going out to. the club, like. that's just what happens when I I mean, I guess it's not just what happens. You. move to New York, you're going to the. club, but I I got introduced to like. nightlife and going out and drinking. and, you know, I definitely had my. moments of that that was like my time, probably like. 18 to.

I swear by the time I turned 21, I was. like, "I'm over drinking.". Do you remember the first time you got. drunk? Was it a disaster? Yes. The first time I got drunk, I was. like, "Oh my god, this is so funny.". I was 16. Yeah, I think I was 16 and I. used to be a dancer, like I've I said. before. Um, and I think we had like a recital. and one of my friends who I dance with, she had like the best house for like. sleepovers cuz she had like the dope.

basement. Oh. So, we. would go in the basement, shut the door, the parents would never. come down, so we would take like all the. alcohol and uh. just get drunk in the basement. of you? No, it was like multiple girls. Like all. the girls from the our dance school. Um, and the first time I like really. remember getting drunk, I didn't throw. up, which is like surprising. That one time I didn't throw up. Thrown up multiple times from drinking.

But that one time I remember like. crawling on the floor cuz I like could. not walk, like could not stand up. straight, and I was just mixing. everything cuz I didn't know what to. drink. So, I. can never If you made me smell Ciroc. birthday cake. right now or like Svedka birthday cake. Pinnacle. Pinnacle. Pinnacle. And you would just vomit. If you made me smell that right now, I. would. proceed to fall into a dark hole.

That triggered me. That I feel like everyone has. what we were drinking and then like. mixing it with like a beer and like a. Mike's Hard and like all this crazy like. the fact that I didn't throw up is a. miracle. But I remember waking up the next day. and I was so hung over. And um I called my cousin who was a like. staying with us at the time who I was. really close to. I am really close to. and I was like, "Hey." She was older. than me. I was like, "Can you pick me up. from her house? I don't want my mom to. like pick me up." Because I had moments. with my mom where I'd like go to a party.

or something and I would have had like a. couple sips of a drink and she would get. in the car and she would smell my. breath. So I'm like, "I can't have my. mom pick me up right now. Like she's. going to know.". And my friends asked me to take all the. empties. and find somewhere to throw them out. because she didn't want her mom to find. them. So my cousin comes to get me, I. take all the bags of empties, we pull. over into an Olive Garden parking lot. and find a dumpster, throw it in the. dumpster and I'm like sitting in the car. with her and I was like,

"I need you to take me to church. Like I. have to go to youth group." That was. like where I thought I needed to be cuz. I felt so bad. What? I just felt bad. I felt like I did. something so wrong. Like I got like. wasted and I'm hungover. I just felt. like hell. So I was like, "I need. I need God. I need Jesus. Like I need to go and. that's like legit how I felt. I was. like, "I got to go to like church." And. then I remember I went to like youth. group and I was so hungover at. the youth group that I was like, "Oh my. god, I got to go home. Like I can't be.

here right now." But that was like what. my instinct was like I got to go. I got to go to youth group after I get. hammered for the first time in the. basement. It's a classic. Classic. like you are the sweetest angel and then. there's. what so funny about like me moving into. New York City. It would be like Friday. night. I was like in Up & Down taking. shots and then I was like going to. church on Saturday, which I think is. like so fine. I don't see like a problem. with that. It's just the juxtaposition. is really funny. The fact that you just referenced Up &. Down in New York, I think I've had the. most disgusting.

ratchet amazing awful nights of my life. in Up & Down. Like ruin your life, but. also like great night. Many many a traumatizing moment. Absolutely. in Up & Down. a couple awful nights at Marquee, but. like Up & Down specifically, you're. like, "God bless. Thank you." The Oh, Marquee. What was the one on the roof? PHD. Oh, PHD. Hilly, you're like a normal human going. to the ratchet spots. I'm obsessed. From I lived That was where I was from. I lived there. Do you and Justin like go out and have.

fun still? Are you able to do that? Okay. We went out last night um. to Delilah. Oh, that's. fun. There you go. Um yeah, I think definitely both of us. do not turn up the way we used to just. simply because it's never worth the way. you feel. Absolutely not. I feel like now I get hung over by. accident. Like I wasn't trying to. It. was just like that last glass of wine. You shouldn't have done it. I it's hard. for me. when I was 18 to 20, I felt like I was.

drinking four times my body weight and. was fine. A full like water bottle of vodka would. be in my system and I'd be like, "I'm. cruising through the night.". wake up the next day, give me a bacon, egg, and cheese and a blue Gatorade and. I'm fine. Hilly, did you like rip that from me. because that is my order? Please and. thank you. In New York, you go to a. [ __ ] bodega. a bagel and a blue It had to be blue. Gatorade. always. The only. Bacon, egg, and cheese on a croissant, blue Gatorade. You're back. I'm. You're fine. Thriving. Never been better.

I'm so sick. I'm so.