Elizabeth Banks: How Do I Know If He’s My Soulmate? (Full Episode)

What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your. founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call. Her Daddy. Elizabeth Banks, welcome to Call Her. Daddy. >> Thank you. Hi, Alex. You are an actress, writer, producer, director. You starred. in movies such as The Hunger Games, 40-Year-Old Virgin, one of my personal. favorites, Pitch Perfect, another one of. my personal favorites, and many more. And you're in the wine business, okay? >> am. Your team reached out and was like,

"Are you down to drink?" And I was like, "Am I down to drink? Give me an excuse. to drink during the day on a Wednesday? I'm game. I'm ready." So, we have your. wine here. >> Yes. I It's a It's called Archer Roose. What are you starting with? You started. with the Sauvignon Blanc. Okay. >> So, and then I think we have This is the. Malbec, yeah. Yeah. So, I like the. Malbec chilled. It's amazing. Would you. consider yourself a sommelier? Uh no. In. fact, one of the reasons I liked that. this Archer Roose was canned wine.

was that I kind of feel a little wine. shamed. You know what I mean? I'm a. grown ass woman, but like, I don't know. I don't Why I can't learn everything. about wine. It's just not my thing. But, I also know what I like and. >> Okay, this is cetera. >> I love a sommelier who's like very cool. and chill and telling me what's good and. like I love that vibe. But, I really. when I go to shop for wine, I'm like, "I. don't know." See, this is what I didn't. know. First of all, cheers. >> Cheers. Let's have a taste.

>> L'chaim. Oh, it's good. >> yummy. I forget how good it is. >> about drinking wine in a can that's like. bringing me back to life. >> You're on the beach. >> I'm on the beach. >> mind. >> I'm already on the beach. I'm looking at. Italy. >> Yes. I'm in Marbella, Spain. My feet are. in the sand. >> Growing up, before you were like of age. at 21, what what was your parents'. relationship to allowing or allowing you. to drink? Uh I I my high school.

graduation my dad like bought a you. know, a couple cases of beer. He was. like, "You can't You're 18. Like, you. can't This is weird." But, he was like. in the Navy at 18. You know what I mean? Okay, so they were pretty chill. They. were pretty chill. Yeah. I was a little. bit of a goody two-shoes in high school. So, I was somewhat weirdly responsible. Well, I feel like cuz we're going to get. at that cuz I know you went to an Ivy. League school. So, I was wondering like, did you spend all of your high school. time like preparing to try to get to.

college or did it like come naturally. for you? I loved school. I was a I'm a I. love learning. And um so, school was not. like overly stressful for me. To me, it was about getting out of my. small town. And I. super grateful for where I grew up. I. love Pittsfield, Mass. Shout out Western. Massachusetts. But, I had city blood. from birth. And I just knew I was meant. to go live in a city somewhere. Somehow, I was not meant to like party with kegs. in the woods while it was raining on me. You know, off of George's farm road or.

whatever. So, to me, the whole situation. in high school. was about. getting out like What's the best school. I can get into? How can I get out of. here? How can I make real money in my. life? How can I You know, that was I. grew up working class. And my parents. wanted more for me, and I wanted more. for me. Totally. >> ambitious. I I can relate to that cuz. I'm from Pennsylvania. Yeah. What was. the most challenging aspect of adjusting. to going to a school like UPenn? >> It was passing.

Frankly, as somebody who like belonged. there. Um they have programs now for. this [laughter] in college, which they. didn't have when I was there. Which is. basically like socioeconomically. to be on scholarship and grants and all. that, which is how I went to Penn. I. worked the entire time. I never went on. spring break. I never went anywhere. I. stayed at school and worked. I did not. go. I worked all summers. So, that was the part of it that for me you.

you know, I was there living and work. and hanging out with and going to class. with people who just never have to worry. about that stuff, you know, they were. not worried about a winter coat with a. hole in it and I was like, [ __ ] my. winter coat has a hole in it. This is my coat. Let me sew this myself. >> [laughter]. >> Like, oh, I had to miss shifts cuz I had. to you know, study. I I literally was. choosing between like a shift at work or.

studying for a test and it's like, all. right, well, I got to maintain this. grade point average so I can stay at. this school and so okay, now I've missed. a shift. So, now we're not going to. we're going to have bagels this week at. every meal, you know. But, when you look. back, like do you feel like that also. propelled you to a different level for. yourself? I I don't you look, it's just it was my. experience. I really only try to speak. for myself at this point, you know, I. that was my experience. I. had to work a lot. I'd missed out on a.

lot of things, but of course it makes. you a person who. is respectful of the dignity of work. Like like true, you know, I see I was a. chambermaid. in a bed and breakfast and like, don't. flush condoms down toilets, [ __ ]. Stop it. >> [laughter]. >> Such a good specific like PSA, we don't. need the condoms in the toilet. >> Don't that's not where they go. They.

don't go down there. That's not what you. do. And it's people like me that have to. clean that up. So, you know, I I just have like that. mentality now of of really uh. appreciating. work, you know, the the dignity of work. and people just doing their job so they. can like go home to their families. Like, you know? When did you realize you. wanted to be an actress? It was pretty late. I It's just not. something anybody where I'm from dreams. about. And I loved doing it. It I It.

provided me a real sense of pride and. self-worth. And I felt good at it. I really liked. entertaining people, and I made people. laugh early in my career, and it just. was very um. addicting. Um that all being said, I did not go to. school to be an actor at all. The path. was like, I couldn't move at 22. to New York and become an actor cuz I. had no idea how to do that.

And so, instead, I just kept going to. school cuz I knew how to do that. >> [laughter]. >> You're like, "This I know.". >> This I can figure out. And honestly, it. worked out really well for me. I did my. showcase, and I got an agent, and I got. uh offers, and I was like in a. commercial like a month later, and then. that was that. And I was started paying. off my student loans, and. here I am. Like, truly. >> story just because I feel like something. I've been talking about recently is like. a lot of people will write in being.

like, "I feel like I'm on campus, and. everyone knows like what they want to. major in, and what do they want to do. for a living, and I'm like, I have no. [ __ ] idea. Like, I am like just as. lost as the person to So, I think it's. nice to sometimes hear people be like, 'Yeah, I didn't like grow up and from. like five was like, I'm going to be an. actress.' Like, and it's totally fine if. that's what you are like envisioning for. yourself, but it is nice to hear. sometimes people who are so successful. like you are to be like, "Yeah, no, I. didn't have it all figured out until. like after college almost I started to.

like lean into like what do I want to. do?" Which I appreciate you sharing. >> you're a podcaster. Like, one of the. best. How did you come to this? >> I had literally no idea I wanted to. podcast. All right. to do like film. >> are you like this is going to be my job? You know what I mean? >> Are you kidding me? I didn't even know. podcasting was a thing. I would consider. it like radio and I never wanted to be. like a radio personality. I If anything. I wanted to produce and like direct TV. or film. And then it just like came. about. I think sometimes it comes off.

like we've all got our [ __ ] together. It's not the case. It's really not and I. think it's helpful. >> doing it. I've always loved doing it but. I did not consider it a a realistic. dream to have, you know? It just was I. my mindset at the time was not big. enough. And now looking back and I tell. people this all the time like dream. bigger, dream bigger, dream bigger. Be. dream like go like Yeah. >> [clears throat]. >> You might not happen tomorrow but like. put put a put something on the map of.

your life like farther out and like if. you work towards it, you from probably. do it. I completely agree or you're. going to get some version of it that you. didn't even realize you wanted. >> right. You're You're at least going to. You don't have to know exactly what you. want to do. I I tell it's interesting. I. have a young my young sons and when you. if you ask them right now um what you. want to be when you grow up, they're. like I'm 11. Like I you know, I don't. they don't have a dream job. >> Right. They have a dream life. And I we. talk about this a lot. Like what does. that look like, you know? And my son.

will say cuz he's very wise, "I hope I'm doing a job that I enjoy.". And I go, "Yeah, that would be nice.". And I hope I have enough time to spend. with my family. Yeah, that would be. good. And um and I hope I stay connected. to the friends I'm making right now. And. I'm like, "Yeah, I think that I think. that's a really good recipe for a happy. life.". >> I think your son is wiser than most of. us. I know. That actually is so also No, that's so cute because I feel like when.

you're that young, sometimes we need to. like listen to the youth because they're. like so unscathed by the world yet. they're like this is what we should and. we're like [ __ ] that is what we should. be doing. >> But I also I'm I'm trying to teach him. not to dream about work. And I think. about that for me like in high school. when you asked about that it it was a. vision of my life was like I'm living in. a city. Do you know what I mean? Like I. make enough money that I don't worry. about paying the bills. That was the. dream. That was what I was talk thinking. about. You know, that's what I was.

putting on the map. >> a good bit of advice. It's like you. don't have to have the exact thing in. mind but have at least one thing that. you know you want for yourself. >> And be employable, okay? You can't make. money if you don't create employability. for yourself. And the more specific you. can be the more money you can make in. life, okay? I mean I truly think these. there's actually a simple formula to. this. Um so the more specialized you get, right? That's how you end up like.

actually like earning. But in the. beginning just think about what makes me. attractive to employers. What what. brings the money to people? And it's. like. broad mindset like I can do anything, be. confident, you know, think work [ __ ]. work hard. Any job you're doing like when I was. cleaning those toilets in the bed and. breakfast you better believe they were. spotless, you know? Take pride in what. you're doing no matter what it is. Learn. that skill set early. Don't be like oh I.

got to do this thing. Guess what? You've. you're there. You took the job. You're. cashing the check. Show up. It's such good advice and I. think it's like standing out is. something I think like I always was like. mom stop making me like put this on my. resume or write this and she's like I. promise you like and now that I would be. hiring people I now see it. I'm like. people just write in these generic. things and I'm like do something wild to. stand out. That's my piece of advice is. like just send something that maybe you.

think is like even if it's a little. ballsy, you're going to catch people's. attention. Let's talk about a little bit of. romance, okay? You met your husband Yes. the first night of college. >> Yes. What do you remember about that. night? Can you explain to us what. happened? The main thing I remember is that he was. not that interested in me. >> [laughter]. >> He would say otherwise, but he was he he. was pursuing me a little bit. I was. pursuing him for sure. And um. and he was also pursuing this really.

cute uh girl named Kate. I can say girl. cuz we were 18 at the time. >> Yeah. Mhm. Who was like a nursing. student had a twin sister and they were. super cute. And she had like a sexy deep. voice. I remember Kate. Hi Kate, if. you're out there listening. Um. anyway, he I met So, I went to school. I. knew one person from school. I hope. she's listening too and her brother. Her. name is Penny Feldstein. I met her in. Massachusetts before I went to Penn, which is in Philadelphia. So, I show up. in Philadelphia uh campus and she had.

said, "My brother goes to the school. So, when you get there, call me cuz. he'll like take us around, whatever.". So, I get there. I call Penny. Uh and she's like, "My brother's. fraternity is having a party tonight.". So, I went to her room and we walked up. to the frat house together. I met her. brother, Mark Feldstein. And um the. second person I met was my He happened. to be standing with my now husband. Yeah. And the vibes were like chill, but. he wasn't like obsessed. >> were chill. Neither one of us we were. coy. You know, it was like September.

6th. I know exactly what it was. But, um. September 6th was like 100° still. in Philly. So, everyone was like I was. in like cut-off jean shorts. I mean, we. were all half naked. And he was really. cut. He had a really great body and he. was tan cuz it was the end of summer. Right. Everyone was looking their best. >> great. Wow. >> It was shiny happy people everywhere. And it was like college. It was like, "Hell yeah. I'm here." But it's such a. good story and I'm sure it's like you're.

asked about it probably in every. interview because like it is such like a. a cute way to now be like, "30 years. later, I'm still married to the same. man." But it's a very cute story. How. quickly did things like progress between. the two of you? Your pregnancy? We got. lucky. You know, I I'm not like a I. believe in fate person particularly, but. I do think, you know, it's almost like. when you. if you're. you see something you you're made aware. of something and then suddenly like you. see it everywhere. I was made aware of.

him and then I kind of felt like I saw. him everywhere for the next few days. So, I met him, we hung out for, you. know, not that long that night. I tried. to give him my number. He was like, "I. don't have a phone." Which was true. He. just hadn't hooked up his phone yet. But. I was like, "If you don't want my. number, dude, like you can just say so. Don't pretend you have like no ability. to ever figure out how to call me. Like. Like you Like there's there are phones. in the world. You might not have You can. find a phone if you care.". >> [gasps]. >> So, that was a fun laugh and he didn't.

call me cuz he didn't think he didn't. have a phone. He was like, "Oh.". So, he um. And then the next night I saw him again. with like a totally different group of. people and then he started rushing a guy. who lived on my floor cuz he was older. than me and um so I happened to. literally like walked in my hallway and. he was standing there. And so, you know, it was just like little things where I. was like, "Wait, why do we keep seeing. each other?" And we were had a great. energy between us from jump. We were. very like attracted to each other. And. then he asked me out on a date and we.

went on like the greatest date of my. life. Um you know, we were underage and we. went to a jazz club in Philadelphia. Like I'm from I'm from like. a little town. We have like three bars. Like. Of course. You're like And they're all. they're all like roadhouses, basically. Um so, going to a fancy jazz club, this. woman sang I remember she sang all the. classics and sang, you know, "What a. Wonderful World" and like walked through.

the room with the microphone and sang at. our table. And I we drank beautiful. old-fashioneds out of beautiful crystal. glasses. And then he paid he said to the. taxi driver, he's like, "I just need two. back." And I was like, "Oh my god, he. knows how to like tip. He's so fancy.". >> [laughter]. >> I was blown away. You're like, "Okay, I. guess we can date now because you know. how to work it.". >> It's going to be great. And then the. rest is history. >> And we're still here, yeah. So long. later.

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is you don't need to muck around, right? Figure out who to [ __ ] who is what. you're doing, who cares about you, what. you Oh my god, I can't even imagine now. with the texting and the ghosting and. the Oh my god, it's so [ __ ] It's not. great. It's not good. >> The worst. I had a great relationship in. high school, too, so that really. prepared me. I had a great boyfriend. and, you know, I went to college being. like, I'm here I I wanted to get laid. and like sow my oats and have fun. That.

was really it. And I happened to meet I. turns out I'm a serial monogamist. >> [laughter]. >> I didn't know. I didn't realize. >> to college, I just honed in on one and. that was it. >> for 30 years. But [laughter] then But we. And where was he from? Portland, Oregon. Okay. So, you guys graduate. I think. there's so many people that write in to. me and are like, I'm graduating college. I have a partner. What the hell do we. do? We have to move to different states. or should we stay together? Like, what. happened with that dynamic and how did. you guys make it work?

>> he made it work, honestly. He made. really He made decisions that were about. us staying together. I mean, we both did. eventually do that, but I, you you he. was not he left school not really. knowing what he wanted to do with his. life. Um again, very common, you know, took. some great jobs and had a lot of great. opportunities, but I was not living his. passion. >> Yeah. So like we both did things that. were for us, you know, we didn't try to. like merge our lives when we were 23.

Like that's crazy. You don't need to do. that. But you do need to be honest, I. think, about like are we doing this. together or not? And of course back then. too, I was crazy and emotional and like. what is this and is this forever and not. and whatever. I questioned all that too. I didn't really know. I really liked. being with him. Yeah. And we were not we. never broke up. It's not like I was like. I can't wait to date other people. I was. not really interested in that. It was. more about I want to do things for.

myself and am I bringing him along? Is. he going to come or what's happening? And he the answer to that was like he. came. He said yes, I'm going to come. See, that's what I wanted to hear cuz. I'm like, okay, there had to be a moment. where one of you is like what are we. doing? Cuz if you never broke up, I was. going to say like was there ever a. moment that you had a freak out of like. is this the one? Am I going to look back. and regret it? Like okay. >> would we didn't have major freak outs, but I think it was more about. is our life going to keep going together.

or is it going to is it going to, you. know, are we are we on the same path or. are we going to diverge? And that that's. a question that everyone has to figure. out. You know, you can't you can't force. those things to happen. I wanted to be I. wanted to follow my dreams and be my own. person and make sure I always had my own. sense of security. I didn't need him to. do things and I know he felt the same. way. He wanted to feel like he was his. own man, his own person, all of those. things. Like we even though we had this.

we have this identity now more than ever. that we are totally together, we needed. to feel as young people that we had our. individuality and that we were our own. people before we could like join each. join up with each other, right? >> that. And that that was what we were. That's the balance we were trying to do. So, we spend a lot of time apart from. each other. We still do. Yeah. >> I'm a heart I'm a makes the heart grow. fonder person. Like I don't mind being I. I I mean I mind being away. It's not the.

greatest, but it always makes me. appreciate what I have at home. And that has been true our entire lives. Like I've always had to travel for work. And he's always had to come visit or. done it and we've always come back. together and the coming back together's. always been awesome. I think that's. something that's very underrated is like. using moments apart that actually make. you way closer and stronger because you. miss them and you want to be with them. We we end up being like on the phone for. like 3 hours a night. Like we're it's in.

high school again. Do you know what I. mean? It's like. >> cute. >> It's cute. I That's what I was going to. ask you. I'm like, "Okay, 30 years of. marriage, how do you keep the passion. alive? How do you keep it interesting? Give us the secret.". >> it's funny because most people ask how. do you stay together for that long? Like. people are not actually interested in. the like those questions. >> no, I I'm interested. >> cuz most people are like, "How do you. How do you like commit to someone and.

then not [ __ ] it up?". >> "Elizabeth, how are you still with the. same person?" They're like, "Are your. eyes twitching?" You're like And me. while I'm like, "I don't If you If you. choose well and you stay and you keep. recommitting to it, it's actually not. that hard." Um the hardest like keep I'm. always like, "Don't cheat." Yeah. That's the the big like. What do most people break up over? Cheating. That's what most people break. up over. Let's be clear. That's it. Is there a conversation you guys had.

that was like a very specific. conversation about that like when you. got married or something? I mean I. remember we went to we were in San. Francisco, we went to a restaurant we. were probably like 26. Then you know, we had some drinks and we. got a little drunk and it was more of. just like look if anything's happened if. you've flirted if this has gone on what. I literally don't care. Let's not care about anything that. happened in the past. Let's just talk. about what the future looks like for us. Like are we are we doing this? Are we.

saying like it's me and you. and we're going forward and we said yes. I remember it's kind of coming to the. conclusion I was like oh okay so. eventually I'm going to marry him. And we're going to have kids we're going. to make a family together. And that kind. of came out of that out of a. conversation that was like whatever's. ever happened Yeah. let's not care cuz. we were babies. and you were it's fine you we weren't. meant you know we didn't know that we. were going to be committed. >> Right.

>> But now tonight we're kind of in a place. where we know we're going to. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> So let's like acknowledge it and have. the conversation about it. >> acknowledge it and kind of say like all. right well then let's. let's be real about this like let's be. let's commit. I appreciate that because. I think there's a lot of people that can. get scared to bring it up if they don't. know where their partners at and it's a. very scary feeling when I've had women. write in being like I know like I'm. ready for the next step and he has never. brought it up and I'm like you have to.

have the conversation. >> Yes. Because what are you going to do. sit around for a couple more years and. then you finally ask him and he's like. oh no I'm out. Well also I I think it's. okay look people are afraid of the. answer. It's fear based. So because. you're putting yourself out there and. you don't want to hear that they don't. want to do it. But I think often what. happens is. by the way we didn't get married at 26. We there was multiple years went by. after that before we actually married. each other. It was more just like let's.

start making decisions that will lead us. to the same place, which is we want to. get married and start a family. And that was it. By the way, I I have I. mean I have friends, family that are. don't want to get married, but are like. I want to move to LA, do you want to. come with me? Are we going to commit to. this life together? It's the same idea. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like we were. living together. So, it's like. >> Totally. That's why I was interested. like you didn't get married right away. How much open communication did you guys. have about like we want to get married,

when are we getting engaged? Cuz I think. sometimes like when I. >> Zero. You didn't talk [laughter] at all. Well, meaning once we were like once I. knew we were going to get married. eventually, I kind of had that in the. back of my But I was like there's no. rush. I wasn't in a hurry. >> Right, right. But like. >> My only hurry was. literally I'm a little traditional. I. didn't want to accidentally get pregnant. before I was married. >> I get that. >> it. >> Okay, okay. That No, I get That was it. I was like, "Ooh, I'm going to feel. really bad if I" You wanted to do it the. Okay. I wanted to be traditional about. it. I just thought we've been together.

since we were 18. Mhm. I and I By the. way, this is no judgment anyone who has. a kid and then gets married. I don't. really care what anyone does. I'm just. telling you that for me, I'm a little. traditional. I wanted to be married. before I I had kids. >> Were you surprised when he proposed? Yes, he surprised me because he was. like, "Fuck you, you're a know-it-all. I. didn't want you to know." And he knows. me really well, and he wanted to create. a scenario. where he. he did it. There was him. It was not.

He's a little traditional, too. That's. why we're work together. Do you know. what I mean? I think he called my dad. and. the whole thing. And so, it was like he. went with like my good friend to like. buy a ring and got her advice and like. the you know, he did all the work. And I. think and he deserves all the credit for. it because I was kind of like do do do. like I was working. I knew what you. know, we'll figure it out eventually, blah blah blah. And then he was like, "No, we're doing it now.". And I was like, "Oh, [ __ ] All right, we're doing it. Okay.". >> Can you share how he did it?

Oh, it's not that. crazy. I was working on this movie. Seabiscuit. >> Okay, of course. Um I traveled all. around for it and I was in Kentucky. We. were shooting a sequence at Keeneland. And he came to visit in Kentucky. He was. in business school at UCLA at the time. getting his MBA. And um so I honestly thought he wasn't. going to do anything until he had. graduated. You know what I mean? I. didn't think he was really. ready to get married. And um.

he showed up. We went. >> [laughter]. >> we went tailgating. So there was a big. Kentucky-Louisiana football game. We. love sports. So um and I was with these. world-class jockeys in Kentucky where. jockeys are literally the celebrities of. Kentucky, right? So we were with these. big-time jockeys, Hall of Famers, and. they were like, "We're going to go, you. know, they have a suite at the thing, whatever, all these rich horse people.". And um so we went, we started drinking. bourbon cuz it's Kentucky at 11:00 a.m.

We were off our asses by the end of the. game. The game was blowout amazing. They. shot off fireworks like the game was. over and Kentucky won and then Louisiana. ran a touchdown into the end zone and. actually won the game. So it was like this crazy ending and it. was like it's one of these like top 10. all-time like ESPN moments, blah blah. blah. So we go back to the hotel after. this. We're done. Like I'm done. And and we're taking a nap and um I wake.

up and I'm like, "Let's just get a steak. to the room and like, you know, hang. out. Like we're already kind of He's. like, "NO. WE ARE GOING TO DINNER." YOU. KNOW, HE HAD THIS BIG PLAN. And he had asked. like, "What's the best steakhouse in. Kentucky?" Whatever. It's called. Malone's. I don't know if it's still. there. It was in a Shout out to. Malone's. That's where I got engaged. So. we go to Malone's. We have a driver. He. like has it all arranged through the. concierge. We go to Malone's. And. it is a party because Louisiana has won.

and all these people are there for the. game. And they're all wearing their Mardi Gras. beads and it's purple everywhere and. there's a magician walking around doing. stuff and my husband is kind of. horrified. He's like, oh [ __ ] He was. wanting like Musso & Frank's. Like he. wanted a classic. like you know, like a red velvet banquet. right kind of a situation where we were. going to eat a medium-rare steak and. have martinis and he was going to ask me. to marry him and it was going to be. great. Instead, we're in a we are in a.

party. I mean, it is a massive party. there and we're hung over cuz we've. already been drinking all day. So I literally I think I ordered a. ginger ale cuz I was like, I I don't. want to die. And you know, so we were. there for like two and a half hours. He. just wouldn't let the dinner end. He. kept ordering things. He wasn't asked me. and honestly, he just wanted he didn't. want to do it in front of like a table. full of strangers. And he did not want to do it in front of. a [ __ ] magician.

>> [laughter]. >> No, I think we could do without. I feel. like that's not as romantic as it It. doesn't even sound romantic. No, it. wasn't. It wasn't. So truly, the. restaurant was like closing. Like the. staff was kind of like giving us the. dirty like, you need to get out of here. I. And um we I was like, why don't we get. the check, babe? Like let's go. What are. we doing? Why are we still here? And then he just pulled out this ring. And like, yeah. Every And we were. basically alone at that point in the. restaurant. It was really lovely.

And I was in shock. In shock. And then we went home and we called our. entire family. It was like 1:00 in the. morning. I woke my parents up and. And then we his family's all West Coast. so they were it was early enough for. them. It was like 10. And we called everyone and it was great. It was. >> Okay, that's a great story. Yeah, that's. a that's an absolute great story cuz I. think sometimes there's pressure to do. like on the hot air balloon, like. skydiving. Like no, like it could be. that's not us. That's just not us. Like.

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>> Yes, two boys. Um did you always know. you wanted children? Yes. Um I mean when I was I mean I did not. want children when I was young, you. know. >> of course. [laughter]. I wanted to plan my family. Alex, that's. what I was most interested in. I have a. whole plan. Yeah, I had a plan. Um I did always want to have kids, yes. You. >> Especially when I once I knew I was. marrying my husband, I wanted us to make. a family together. >> made sense for you. >> Yeah, 100%. You've been open about your. journey to becoming a mom. Can you talk.

about that? Well, I. I've never been pregnant. And when I was young, I thought it was. cuz I was really good at taking the. pill. Um which I definitely was. >> [laughter]. >> But I have no idea. I have um so I have. there's a small percentage of women who. basically have unexplained infertility. and that is me. I'm in that. that category. And really what it came. down to for me, and I know there are. other women that have other stories and. there are rumors out there about my.

story. So I just want to say this, I've. never been pregnant, I've never had a. miscarriage. I think people mistook my. story for like maybe I had a lot of I've. never had a miscarriage. So for me, I. had always had plenty of eggs. I never. had trouble making embryos. Um they did. not implant. For whatever reason, my. uterus is hostile to I don't know what's. going on, but they just will not stay in. there. So I had a broken belly is what I told. my kids. Um mommy had a broken belly. So we my.

husband and I it's funny cuz I remember. when I went to the fertility doctor for. the first time, he was like, you're going to use a. surrogate. And this is a long time ago before. surrogacy was like a Kardashian thing. Um right, nobody was doing it back then. And I thought he was crazy. Like what. are you talking about? No, I'm not. I'm. like, first of all, I don't know what. that is and that sounds nuts and. expensive and we're not doing that. And um. but he was right cuz he'd seen my case.

He like he's basically like I can solve. like eggs. Like we have a lot of ways to. like get women like create embryos, you. know, we can solve bad sperm or whatever. causes infertility. They have a lot of. solutions. They do not They do not know. to this day why an embryo implants or. doesn't. They don't know. And um so he was like this is un- you. have an unsolvable problem, which is not. the language he used with me. So at the time I thought like we're just.

going to do IVF or ART, which is. assisted reproductive technologies, and. we're going to figure it out cuz like. other women I knew were doing that and. they were getting pregnant. It was not a. problem. Like they take you their Clomid. and they do their this or their that. Everybody's going to you know, it's. going to work for us. And then dude, it did not work for us. We did I think I did like seven. procedures. that were all resulted in zippity do da. and we were really despondent. Um. and then there was a totally crazy.

scenario that I'm actually not going to. talk about here, but involves like. family members and. a cancer scare and like many things. going on. um where we kind of thought like this is. the challenge for us. Like we are really. lucky people cuz we found each other and. we're in love and. um we're just going to be really good. auntie and uncle and we're just we. weren't meant to do it, you know. And then I had some incredible. conversations with people and I had a.

doctor that was, you know, like you. know, you can use a surrogate. Like it's. really okay. And um. long story short cuz it's a very long. story. Um met somebody had an incredible. conversation with her. Uh still to this day it's my actually my. son's 10th birthday today and I'm going. to send her a picture of him. Um yeah, cuz she help you know, she. helped make our family with us. Her mom. had been a surrogate. That's how she got.

into it. She had three beautiful kids of. her own with her awesome husband. Um cuz it takes like the whole village. to do this. And um. I was given advice that, you know, nobody comes to surrogacy like willing, excitedly. At least I didn't, you know? It was like a last resort for me. Um but the advice I got was you will be. so grateful. And the other advice I got was cuz back. then it's like And by the way, it's. illegal in most states, and you know,

it's very It's. the whole abortion conversation is very. right now mixed up with IVF, and. you know, all of this stuff is so um. fraught. So, there was a lot of judgment. around this back then, especially. And people were like, guess what? At the. end, you know, I had a great friend who. was like, at the end of the day, there's going to be a baby. And you're going to be a parent, and. like nobody's going to care how it. happened. And like.

Yeah, it's incredible. Right? If you're. not able to do it the exact way that. like.

everyone envisions it going, and. obviously we're so fortunate that we've. progressed in the medical field that. we're able to actually have so many. different ways to go about bringing life. into this world. But can you talk a. little bit about that shame? Cuz I think. sometimes women go through it, and it's. hard to articulate, especially when you. feel so alone in going through it. >> also looked at it's um. your fertility is such a part of your. life. And men and women, right? I mean.

but for women especially. in a society. that's like this is your why we value. you, right? We don't We don't value you. cuz you could be a CEO. We value you cuz you can procreate and. keep the race going, right? Literally. Um so if you can't do that, like you are. less of a woman. That's the messaging. And um. your my fertility was something I had to. mourn. I had to grieve for it.

It was a loss. And. um I had to really work through that. before I could invite someone else to. help me. make my family. That's really what it. for me, how the the the journey to. surrogacy. um was really about that. And it was. confusing, too, because it's like we. could my husband I could make these. beautiful baby cakes, and I just didn't. have an oven to bake them in. And so it really was my fault. Do you.

know what I mean? It was on me. And I felt that deeply, like I'm the I'm. the problem. Um. and you know, you just blame your. lifestyle, and you blame your Oh my god, and I did everything. I was like I. stopped drinking, I stopped eating, then. I started eating because someone was. like you're too thin, you're too this, you know, I. You're you you use that cream, and it's. got a chemical in it. It's like okay, everything has a chemical in it. I don't. know. Like you know. It's like don't eat this, don't do that.

So it's like everything you're doing is. wrong, and like. truly I went through all of those. things. I really did. And at the end of. the day. I remember a really good friend of mine, her name is Anna. I hope she hears this. She was like, "Listen, I was pregnant and I loved being. pregnant and I felt cool and it was. great. And I gave birth and then they. handed me a baby. and they were like, "Go home and parent. this baby.".

And being pregnant was like a distant. memory as if it never happened because. suddenly now actually motherhood. is happening because now you you're. responsible for this other person. When. you're pregnant, you're still just. responsible for you. And you know, there's. that I mean. I I'm not denying like the connection. and all of those things. I don't I mean. I don't know it intimately cuz it didn't. happen to me, but of course I'm not. denying anyone else's experience. I'm.

just saying my friend was like, "They. gave me a baby and then I took over my. hospital." And like truly being pregnant. is like, "What? That was like nothing. compared to like. the rest of my life is taking care of. this other human being." Right, that's 9. months. Like now it's for the rest of. your life. >> Now it's for the rest of your life. That's what I had to focus on. Just. refocusing on. parenting. and my actual child that was in my arms. And man oh man, it made everything else.

so stupid, so silly. Everyone's judgment was like, "Fuck. off." Because uh now they get to judge. me for how I parent. >> [laughter]. >> It starts all over again. It's a whole. other side of the cycle. But like. no. Like you got to mourn it, absolutely. Look, it was really. it's a journey. I I it it's not. it's hard. It's not easy at all to feel. like you can't do something that you. really want to do, that you feel made.

and built to do and you don't understand. and you're with a great person and like. everything was right and it still didn't. work for me. I really appreciate you sharing that. because one recently. for me women having autonomy over their. bodies is the cause I care most about. and I think hearing women talk about. their individual journeys is so powerful. because as much as we all are never. going to have the same exact story, it's. helpful to hear like we're all going to. go through [ __ ] but we can support each.

other in how different our stories are. >> That's right. Um. your new movie Yeah. Call Jane is truly. the movie I think everyone in America. should see right now, especially with. what's going on. Yeah, thank you. >> Um. can you explain what your character goes. through in this movie and her character. development? >> called Jane. Um it's the it's based on. the true collective of women in Chicago. in the late 60s, early 70s before Roe v.

Wade was the law of the land. um that provided abortion health care to. around 11,000 women uh that sought them. out, right? Um. so basically illegal abortion care was. what they were providing and in the. film, I play this woman Joy. who is a. kind of conservative housewife who never. in a million years thinks she's going to. seek out abortion health care and uh. finds out that she's pregnant, you know,

she's 40 years old. So she's having a. pregnancy that is um that's life or. death for her basically. It's putting a. strain on her heart. Um and she's told. like, "Mhm, you'll probably die if you. don't get rid of this pregnancy." And. she's got a life that she's living and. she's got a child that she's already. raising, a daughter and she makes the. decision. that she prefers her life and um she has. to seek out an illegal abortion through. the Janes. And then once she meets the. network and really for me it was when.

she makes this very life-affirming. choice for herself to save her life. um. that her that everything begins for her, right? I I read the script a long time. ago and I remember thinking, "This is. like a coming-of-age story for a. 40-year-old." You know, like you read. coming-of-age for like a 17-year-old, but you know, or like Jane Austen or. something. But like this is a woman. who's like well into what she thinks is. a very comfortable life and then. realizes, "Oh my god, I'm living in a.

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from your parents if you have the. ability to do so. Changing your mind's. okay. Changing your mind's great. It's. great. It's great. >> it's a it's a measure of your life. experiences because it tells you that. like oh, I was able to be open to. something new, a new idea, a new person. It's mostly people that change us. though, isn't it? Yep, it is. >> It's meeting other human beings and. building empathy for them and going like. oh, they're just a regular Joe that. wants to do blah blah blah with their. life and live their dreams. Oh, and they. happen to be trans.

Right? Or oh, they happen to be Well, you know, oh, they happen to be an. ex-felon. But like they they you know, they're I just think that the idea of. people's whole humanity Mhm. is just. more interesting than like, you know, archetypes, tropes, like the. whole it's just like there's so much. more going on. >> I agree. I feel like even recently I. felt like oh my god, I I never want to. judge anyone again because we just have. no idea. And it's actually I judge. myself for judging. I know. I know, but.

then it's like oh my god, we have no. clue. So. I think a really interesting scene that. struck me in the movie was when you're. in the boardroom Yeah. surrounded by all. men Mhm. telling you no, you can't get. an abortion. And your character is like. wait, but like even if it means the. death of her mother? Like what? And. they're like yeah, no. That scene was so powerful because I. think how many times I've been in a room. with all men and it's it's just so.

profound to look back when I was. younger. I wish I could have like stood. up for myself in certain situations, but. have you experienced being in a room. with men in an industry dominated by. men? Like how have you evolved with your. relationship to sticking up for yourself. and trying to have a voice in a room. where men are talking? >> what that scene really is about, right? It's about the spaces where women's. voices are not valued. Yeah. Of course, I've had many experiences in my life. I. mean, you know, I'm an actor in. Hollywood. I I I go to set I've gone to.

many sets where I'm like the only female. actor in the cast or. you know, one of a very few. I mean, I've mentioned Seabiscuit. Like, you. know, I was I had an amazing time making. that movie, but they weren't like gal. pals on that film. I mean, it was me and. a bunch of dudes. So, and that's true of. like a lot of movies I've done. Um. So, that was my experience for a long. time. And now you know, I I see it for. what it is. It's really it's so. interesting as you get a little more.

distance from that time in your career. But also when you look everything was. anecdotal for a really long time. So, I. think pre-MeToo, pre-like we want to. have more women on boards of Fortune 500. companies. Like, there's this whole. movement right now that is about. equality in a way in a way and then. there's a backlash which is about. abortion rights which is all about. inequality. So, there is a sense of like. women deserve more. You know. >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Um more representation.

Um and that comes, you know, I like to. remind people that we are women as. having political and economic power is. brand [ __ ] new in the the of human. history. Our grandmothers did not work outside. the home. Women did not work outside the. home, make their own god damn money. until the '70s. You could not have a. no-fault divorce until the '70s. You. could not leave a husband just because.

you wanted to until the '70s. You had to. have his permission to leave. So, women. have not had a sense of autonomy, really, or any political clout or. economic power. in until my lifetime. My, you know, 40-something years. That's it. So, it's. fresh as a daisy when it comes to the. patriarchy. The patriarch is like, "Wait. a minute. We had a system." Right. We. loved how this was going. >> We loved it. We were very happy with the.

system. Right. What do you mean you're going to work. and like have opinions? You're going to. want things? You know, #metoo, [ __ ] you. And you're like, "No, no, stop abusing. us. Like, maybe stop doing that.". >> Right. And like, you know, I think it's. what people like, "Why did it take so. long for, for instance, you know, I I. won't say his name, for a Hollywood. mogul to get taken down? You know, why. did why was he allowed to do that for so. long?" And you're like, because there. were young women who had no careers and. no money and no safety and no security.

Right. and then they grew up and they had. husbands and families and money and. lives and security and careers and they. were like, "Hey, >> [laughter and gasps]. >> that guy, that happened to me." And they. were finally safe enough to say it. Yeah. And it takes feeling safe to. actually. stand up for yourself. That's what it took me. It took me. feeling safe in spaces and that comes.

with my own sense of security. Like, if. I say this out loud, I will still work. in my industry. I will not be punished for saying this. It's my safety that has allowed me to. speak out. It's a privilege to feel. safe. I currently feel safe and. I experienced something where I didn't. feel safe. back in college and. it was a power dynamic that was abused. and I now look back and I'm like.

the reason I didn't speak up or didn't. say anything was because like. I needed a job. Like I needed to get my. foot in the door. I need And so I I. wonder if you have advice for young. women maybe that I mean are in the. workforce right now trying to figure out. like I don't have that safety or. security right now. Like I don't know if. you have any advice of like how to. navigate. I know it's very difficult. >> I would say there's safety also in. numbers, right? Like we do feel that. So.

like #metoo was about numbers. It was. about like there were these anecdotes. that were whisper campaigns and this. There's also now there's so much data. Like we just know. We're like, "No, 70%. of women experience XYZ. Like stop. saying you don't do this to us." Like do. you know what I mean? Um so I think partly it's that we. actually have data that supports our. feelings, you know, things that we could. be dismissed. Now it's like, "No, no, there's studies now. Like we're actually. looking at it." Which by the way also. fresh as a daisy, super new to actually.

give a [ __ ] what's happening to women in. the world. Um haven't been studying us. for very long. >> concept. So. uh that's wild too. My advice is like. you're almost probably never alone. Yes. So you know and you don't need to. compete with other women. There is the. It's not a pie with only so many slices. There really is opportunity out there. for everybody. Um so I find that when.

people feel like they're competing. again, they don't feel safe. They don't. feel secure where they are. So they feel. like they can't. reach out to somebody, say, you know, the other woman on the team or the other. woman in the room or the Look for those. mentors, talk to older ladies, look, you. know, reach out across your network, talk to your friends about it. The shame. and stigma around all of these issues is. still so deeply felt by people and it's. really hard to break out of and it's why. people stay silent. And that is the best.

tool the patriarchy has. They are. creating a sense of fear, stigma, shame. that allows women to sit silently at. home and go like, I guess I'm the only. one. And you aren't. You are not alone. You're not alone and I love I love that. advice. Find the other people even. though it's scary, it's better to You. will feel better not being alone. >> That's the main Yes. It's the first. step, right? Is feeling Is You're being. isolated on purpose.

It's a tool. Don't let yourself be. isolated. How do you respond to someone in. conversation. if they say that they think abortion. access should be banned? I think that if abortion is not for. them, they should not get an abortion. And but I don't think that they have the. right to tell other people what to do. with their lives and bodies. We don't. live in a theocracy, we live in a. democracy. And I am trying to live the.

values of the Constitution of our. country, life, liberty, the pursuit of. happiness, a sense of equality and. fairness. Um and that is not possible if. an irresponsible ejaculation changes a. woman's entire life. And for. pregnancy with our maternal mortality. rate, especially in the South, especially for black women, like forced pregnancy is could be a. death sentence. Like it's just. unacceptable. Yeah. It is inhumane and I I did a um a short.

documentary episode on I went to North. Carolina and I sat down with a bunch of. women that work. >> that. It would It changed my life. because it's so there's so many people. that are so ignorant to what's going on. It's so convoluted and it it's it's. really disheartening, but I do feel. positive in the sense that I feel like. the generations coming up like if they. use their voice, things are going to. continue to change and hopefully get. better. Well, the midterm elections I. think were a big, you know, win for.

abortion rights across the country. I. think women, it turns out women like. having human rights and they vote. So, who knew? What a concept. >> But I do Look, I I really It's not the. law of the land right now. I mean, Dobbs. overturned Roe v. Wade and there were, you know, there are states where. abortion health care cannot be accessed. And I think that the, you know, I think. about the real harm that's happening to. women in those places and um, you know,

that's like. that's my first thought. And then I'm. thinking about, well, how do we How do. we get it back? But, you know, this is. the patriarchy. They steal our time. Of. course. They're making us do it all over. again. My [ __ ] grandmother fought for. this. By the way, nobody gave us the. right to vote. Nobody gave us Roe v. Wade. Nobody gives us [ __ ] It has to be. fought for and won. They don't want to. give us anything. So, we have to keep. fighting. And um, that's where I my my. sense of like aloneness comes from. Like, I know so many women are in this.

fight. And I also know that I'm on the. side of the. you know, that it's morally correct. An. unwanted child is a [ __ ] tragedy. It's It's a tragedy. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I am not taking anything away from. the holiness of a wanted baby by saying. that. >> Right. Right. Yeah. It's like but it. should be the woman whose body. It's her body. Let her decide. How does. that affect you? >> It truly just is to me it's not fair.

>> Yeah, I agree. >> Like dudes ejaculate inside ladies and. like what? Every time out if that sperm. meets the egg, you're supposed to stop. making it into something it's not. It's. [ __ ] science. It's a sperm meeting an. egg and. nobody. here's the thing abortion exists because. we as a society and this is our lived. reality. This is not some fairy tale. We. have sex for fun. We don't always have sex to make. children. We just have sex for fun and. so abortion is the insurance policy.

against. unwanted pregnancy when we're just. trying to have sex for fun. That's it. That's our lived reality. Stop pretending that we're all [ __ ] and. like people that have sex outside of. marriage are going to hell. Not true. Also by the way, I'm good with my God. You don't need to get involved you're. not my God. You don't get to tell me. what's going to happen to me at the. pearly gates. I'm good. I'll get there. I'll have my own conversation. Thank you. so much. Don't worry about my soul.

Right, you worry about you. I'm good. Thank you. >> good. Thank you. Worry about your own. soul. That it's. >> You worry about your God and what you. think your God's going to do to you. I'm. good. My God's cool with me. >> Yeah, I feel good. I. >> [laughter]. >> I personally feel great. >> with my God. >> [gasps]. >> Exactly. No, that's why I do love the. movie because no one wants to be. preached at. No one wants to be told. what to do. No one's homework. I get it. If you watch this movie, you feel how. imbalanced the power dynamic is and you. feel how isolated your character is in.

this moment and it's it's incredible. Um. I think people in the world in 2022 have. gotten a little bit better with. understanding that feminism is just us. wanting to be equal to all people and. you. thank you. But do you think being a. feminist at all hurt you and your. career? No. No. I do not. make decisions out of fear. I really try. not to, you know? I don't stay with my. husband because I'm afraid of being. alone. I stay with my husband because.

it's awesome to be married to my. husband. Positive, positive, positive. So, I don't make decisions about the. roles I take or the movies I make, the. stories I tell, the things I do, how I. spend my time because I'm afraid of a. reaction from somebody who doesn't like. what I'm do Who What? I do things from a. place of positivity and wanting the. world to be more equitable for people. because I truly believe like my life is. enriched when I invite that kind of.

energy into it. That's it. Period. Full. stop. Like, I just don't worry about. haters, Totally. people who don't know. me. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. You know, I try to I try to act correct. I am going to make mistakes. I do make. mistakes. And then I just try to learn from them. I don't know. You know, I I really don't. have a lot of regrets. I I I think about. it all as learning. And my life. hopefully will be long and I will. continue to learn and be a you know, a. better, bigger person. I I know I have.

become that. I'm all definitely wiser. I. feel really great being the age I am, raising my kids the way I am, in the. life that I have right now. I I do feel. like, okay, I I have figured a few. things out. And that feels nice. >> You figured a lot. You are so. accomplished and I think that. >> I mean, I've felt it being. in this industry and starting to kind of. use my voice. Like, there is people that. are like, "Oh, don't get political. Like, why are you now just like being. like feminist?" And like, I'm like,

"Because it's it's such a um privileged. mentality to avoid like, sure, I like, you can't just sit in your bubble and. enjoy Sure, I guess you could enjoy your. life and just enjoy your privilege.". >> to tell your friends that want to say. that to you, but like, you are When you. say you're a feminist, you are simply. honoring the fact that you would not be. sitting here talking to me. if women before you, if you were not. standing on the shoulders of the women. who came before you. That's it. So, if you have any gratitude.

in your life, you as a woman you have to. kind of be a feminist cuz like we only. have these opportunities. because of those women who left the. house and took jobs and proved that. women could work, could earn money, that. women could make their own decisions, that women can be in office, that women. can have jobs, that women can have a. podcast that's [ __ ] super successful. that other people want to listen to. You're not the only one who did You know. what I mean? There's people that came.

before us that did this for us to have. these opportunities. >> And to keep it going. That's You got to. Guess what? If you want to pay it. forward, you're a feminist. >> Right. I really appreciate you coming today. because you are so wise and have that. experience that I I just respect you and. your career so much and you have such a. great outlook on how to navigate a man's. world and I I can't thank you enough for. coming. No, you're you're really. incredible. >> Thanks for having me. I'm a huge fan of.

yours, too. Like you've done Look at. Look what you made. You did it. So did. you. Look at us. Two women sitting here. thriving. Here we go. >> [laughter]. [music]. [music].